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December 6, 2025 74 mins
John’s back in the Garden America studio after a winter trip to Idaho, and he’s sharing what he saw in a true cold-climate landscape. We talk frozen gardens, unexpected bursts of winter color, and how different the season feels compared to California’s mild, cool weather. It’s a laid-back catch-up with practical takeaways and a fresh look at what winter gardening means across climates.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends.
Good morning, good afternoon, good midday. When are you listening,
middle of the night, good middle of the night. It
is Garden America right now, though we are live and
we are broadcasting from Tiger's house here in beautiful San Diego, California.
John as back as you can hear, because the show's
coming back through his phone anyway, that's kind of a

(00:21):
weird intro. But yes, good morning. If you are live
and watching us live, it is morning time here and
we are guarding America. Brian Maine, John Magnasco, Tiger Palafox,
and as you heard through the courtesy of John's phone,
he is back. John, welcome back, and thank you for
the feedback.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Literally literally the literal feedback. Now that's literally a correct
use of the word literally.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I don't think anybody heard that.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
We heard that? Yeah? When did when did? When did
literal change its definition in the literal sense? Yeah, because
no one uses it correctly anymore.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Although there's a lot of words know, but he uses
correctly anymore. Like there you go, the word like like
you know, like you know, like tiger, like you know, No,
I don't know, tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, when you started the show and you said welcome back,
my friends, I was gonna make a comment because I
didn't know quite the intro you were doing. And it's
the start of the show, so it's not like they're
coming back from anything. They're starting with us. But then
you kind of went into the show that ever ends.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
But but yeah, but we and you know that's from
don't you have the Emerson Lincoln Palmer.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, And there's let's say, looking and sounding great from
from Dana. Wow, thank you Dana. That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, but back to what you were talking.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
You're very handsome by the word it is.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It is good to be back. Quite a change in
temperature between Idaho and California.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
You said that that your highs were like equivalent.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
To our lows pretty much. Yeah, And they had like
nighttime ten pictures into the twenties. It's still warm for them.
They haven't had their cold weather yet. And daytime temperatures
were in the forties.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
And it was nice weather though in the sense of
it wasn't rainy, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Nom it was mostly sunny, a few overcast days, but
it was it was perfect weather for traveling to garden centers. Yeah, yeah,
and to see what was out there, and and I
was just amazed at the variety. I think I told
you guys on the phone last week, the variety of
plants that were out there.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
The the number are the number of varieties of new
point setting is just shocks me every time I'm there.
And I haven't been to your store for Christmas, Tiger,
But do you have all those new varieties?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
We talked about that last week, didn't we? The colors?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, we we and we have about eight or nine
varieties of which ida is there now maybe even more
maybe maybe it's more like eleven, because you know, we
had we had about three or four different whites. Then
we have you have.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
The white white now yeah, well you used to be
just cream cream, it's what they called.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
And then we had a few different pinks, and then
we had another.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Some of the world real hot pink almost yep yep.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
And then you know they have the different style the
rose and smaller. You know what I've seen is and
I don't like this trend, but they go with the
smaller point SETI it because it's not the blossom what
do they call the brat, it's a smaller bract, so
it's kin a smaller I always loved the point is
with a very large leaf. I've always liked that. That

(03:39):
was always a thing that I thought that cave.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Do you remember the gave point sets used to be
one flower per stem. Yeah, and that gave you a huge,
massive Yeah. And now they're pinched because they can save
money on cuttings, right, so you can get a plant.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
They have lots of flowers, but they're smaller, yeah, and
not as not as I'm not liking that trend because
a lot of them have they're designed to have that
smaller compact. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
The one that that I saw, and I only saw
one of these plants, so I don't know if it
was unusual and just happened to come out that way,
or if it is a style of point setia. But
it was a variegated point SETI a red bras, but
instead of white stripes or striped like jingle bells, it

(04:26):
had occasional white spots O pure white. Gotcha, like a
clump of snow landed Yeah, yeah something.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Now, I haven't seen that one, you know, like the
legal areas that have the spots. It's kind of like
what you're talking.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
About, except more spaced out, so it's very yeah, sparse, yeah,
sparse spots spots. So it was so unique. I almost
bought it, but you know, we we were bringing home
other things, and uh, it was already too much. We
were packed as much as we could get to get

(05:05):
to Idaho. Everything go through TSA okay, yeah, except on
the way back because I had because.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You had all the stuff you were bringing back from Idaho.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, I had two succulents, and they anytime you bring
back plants, they catch it. Yeah, because of the nitrate
fertilizer that's in the plants. They always stop and check that. Okay,
but you know, they open up, they see it's plants.
You tell them what you know, Yeah, there's two plants
in there, and then they pass you through. They don't smile.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
They don't smile.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
No. I think that's a new regulation. If you smile,
you're fired.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
But it's nice to go through there and not have
to take your shoes off anymore.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Huh not doing that anymore?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Huh No, No.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Why what changed?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
There comes the skepticism.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well, maybe maybe they have something that they check that.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Now you have something there. Have you ever noticed that
if there's something that's never happened before and it happens
one time, they have to pass a law to cover
that for the future, and it would it probably would
never happen again. And the first time the shoe bomber happened,

(06:20):
it didn't even work.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
So no, it's always those funny weird laws. Yeah, you know,
like no gardening on a Friday after a full moon speaking, Yeah,
we have one.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Wow, right, did.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
You plant with the supermoon? John?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, but I did see. No, I did tell my wife, Hey,
you need to come out and look at the supermoan.
I thought it was interesting that at at night you
could see your shadows, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So bright.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right, that's how bright it was. So that was kind
of cool. Our friend Rick and Star Idaho said he's
in daya point today. Big difference. Yeah, I'm sure he's
appreciating that. But it said, you buy me lunch next
time in Idaho. So maybe I'll hold.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
You that to that, Rick, or maybe hold out for dinner.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah. Well, I don't know about.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Skip two visits if it turns into.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It, exactly right.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I did get to take the grandkids to the movies,
and at home we had watched Zutopia okay, which I
had never seen before, so I won't spoil the ending
for you if you haven't seen, thank you. But we
did go to the movies and to Seetopia too.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I hear it's good. You know, I thought
it was okay.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I actually enjoyed them.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So we went on a Tuesday, and either Monday or Tuesday,
excuse me and the kids. We went in the movie
theater and there were three other people there because everybody
was in school, but my grandkids are homeschooled.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, so they yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, it was really nice and they were the seats
that you could lay back in, you know, so comfortable.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
So I did this for the very first time. Two
weeks ago. I went to a movie.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And is this that Saturday when when you and I
were driving back from John's house, was it you had
to keep the kids busy?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
No, no, this is different different. And our friend bought
tickets and so I'm like, okay, you know, we're going
with them, and we're going to a movie. Well, you know,
number one movie theaters you know, not doing as well
as they used to, you know, John said there was
two people in it, so there they have to be uh,
they have to figure out a way to get people
into the theater, right. Ye. I went to this movie

(08:47):
and it was a four D movie. Four D four D? Okay,
have you ever done one of these? I don't even
you can't take kids to that, Okay, So to check
this out?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
So four dimensional?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
So the sea move okay. Well, there's big fans and
in like misting system in the theater.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, yeah, I've done okay, And then there's.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
These things by your head that blow air in water at.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You to match what's going on in the screen.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
So we went and saw Wicked. So in there there's
a tornado. You felt like you were in the tornado
watching this movie. You know what. I used to laugh
at my dad because when he used to take us
to the movie theater, I'd always look over and he'd
be asleep. Yeah, exactly, Well not too long ago. I

(09:37):
am that dad, now that when I go to a
movie theater like Zutopia too, I'm like, oh cool, all right,
And then fifteen minutes in the movie, I'm like, it's
dark and warm, the seats are nice, now right, You
know what?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I can fall asleep though, Oh yeah, I can't.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, but I can't fall asleep in a ford Zy movie.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I tell you that's funny because several years ago, same
thing with me, my son Eric, you know. And then
so I wasn't even know awhere that I dozed off
and he's, hey, hey, hey, wake up to go No, no,
I'm awake. He goes, Really, what just happened? I go,
you know the guys are, Yeah, the guy with the
sword and the girl. He goes, you didn't see it.
Don't give me that there was no sword, there was
no girl. We're gonna have to take a break. We've

(10:18):
got the quote of the week. Oh all right, by you,
not one of us, but from the originator, So thank
you for joining us. We are back at Tiger's house
here in San Diego. John is back. I'm Brian Main Tager,
Pola Fox, John Begnasco still going to Magnasco. I trip
up on that sometimes, John Bednasco. Yes, And when we
return the quote of the week, We're going to take

(10:39):
a break for our good friends and welcoming all on
BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live, BIS Talk Radio back. After
these messages, we are back from the break. Thank you
to those that are tuned in on BIS Talk Radio,
are regulars on Facebook Live. It's good to have the
boys are back in town. And you've got the quote
of the week, John, I.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Do, and and you know, I've been using a lot
of epigraphs in the in the new book, I've.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Written in the literal sense.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
In the literal sense, right, And so I've been looking
at a lot of quotes from authors, and this one's
from John Steinbeck, and he said, what goods the warmth
of summer without the cold of winter to give its sweetness?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know, every season, for the most part, kind of
prepares you for the next. When summer rolls around, it
starts to warm up, you're like, oh, so nice that
it's warming up. And then you get into August September,
You're like, I can't wait till it gets cold again.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
No. But it's a funny thing, right, in the sense
of what that quote is to think, do you really
think it's true? You know, John, as a gardener, if
your roses never stopped blooming, would you appreciate them just
as much if they as if they do now if

(11:58):
there was no downtime? If they go dorm and you're like,
would you appreciate them just as much if they never stopped?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Do you mean if they were like the ones in
reels where you just scattered the scene and then they
have you seen those? It is so disgusting in the
in the hostas now the electric blue hostas that you
just throw some seed out. Just I don't know how

(12:26):
that stuff can even be allowed. But no, I but
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
The rose plant always had a flower on it, would
you appreciate it as much as as it goes dorm
it in the wintertime?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah? No, I agree. I agree. You appreciates things because
of change.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
The different from you when they're taken away from you,
So you have to appreciate it when it's not. You know, well,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean in the anticipation of a rose that
begins to bloom.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, oh, look at that in a week or two week.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
You can look at your life that way, Tiger, Do
you feel would you think the same way about your
life if you were still the high school football stud
that you used to be Exactly? If you're the world
class surfer, No, all the time.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
You have to have that down time. You have to
have it taken away from you. You have to have
you have to have lost something in order to appreciate
what you have.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, you also have to mature. You know. It's one
thing to be a sprouting seed. It's another thing to
be in full bloom. And it's another thing to age gracefully,
you know, and watch other LIFs developing.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, so no, I mean it's definitely I think,
especially right now in our era. And I know I'm
going to get on the old man soapbox here, but
because everything is let me move, because everything is so
instant gratification, and like you said, because there's this concept
and idea that something can happen over night, you know,

(14:01):
when it really can't. I think this, this era that
we live in almost doesn't have anything ever taken. And
we talked about this, going to the grocery store. If
I want a Kiwi, I can go to the grocer
any time. And if I want a tangerine, I can
go to the grocery or anytime and have a tangerine.
You used to talk about being home growing up Detroit.
Have to be the season and you walk in the

(14:23):
grocery store and you see those for the very first
time of that year there's an excitement and you were like, yes,
oranges are in season.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, you know this discussion, you know what, it reminds
me of a book in the Bible. John, what book
in the Bible do you think our discussion reflects? We're
not at the end of the movie Ecclesiastes. There's a
time for everything, a time to be born and time
to die book.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
But you know what a lot of people don't realize
is that he was he was quoting Bob Dylan.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
He was quoting Yeah, he was quote exactly right. And
the birds also the birds right exactly. And when I
was a kid, I had no idea that's where the
song was from. I mean a kid.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Kid, not from the Book of Ecclesias.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Right exactly. But it goes with what we're saying, that
that nothing is forever.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know what I don't understand is that, and I've
always wondered about it. Solomona was supposed to be reputedly
the smartest man that ever lived, right, but he had
a thousand wives and concubines.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
That's what you're smart about, that exactly?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Buying trouble.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, so true.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, he did have a lot of stamina, didn't he Dana.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
By the way, Tiger says, your yard looks huge.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
It is huge. You have what an anchor? No, not
not quite, not quite, but almost.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So what he did, Tiger bought the property and the
guy said, I'll throw in the house with it.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, exactly, that's really what I bought. You bought the property,
exactly exactly. You can do whatever you want to this later,
if you want to. You know, it's so funny because
John and I have very similar worlds in that sense
where John's house, John's home is his yard, and then

(16:13):
there's a house that Shannon keeps and that's yeah, and
that's the same thing here. My home is the yard,
and then Janine, you know, keeps the house in the
sense of whatever she wants to do inside the house
by all means, go for it. I could care.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Do you know what I'm surprised at. About two years ago,
I took probably fifty percent of the plants in my
patio and put them along the sidewalk out to what's
officially ho Way property. All the roses are lined up,
I've got some palms out there, banana tree or whatever. Not.
Once has anybody from the old ho wa association to

(16:47):
the new one said hey, you got to move these.
In fact, the other day the manager was talking to
some landscapers right in front of our house, and I'm like, oh,
not about me, but I'm like, okay, this could get ugly.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, it's gonna tell them to clean that nothing.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Nothing. Now, Remember I'm kind of tucked away. Yeah, right,
So but I've I have forty seven plants. What doesn't
sound like a lot, but in an area where I
am right, that's a lot. Yeah, but i haven't situated
in such a way to where.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
It looks like talking about in total, you're just talking
about out front, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, and then there's the patio right anyway, So that
that's our story. So I've I've learned how to potscape.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
A lot of people do that.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I wanted to keep going with the newsletter because you know,
there's a lot of good information on their Christmas trees.
You know, right now is the time of year Christmas trees.
You had a great article, did you write that one
about how the trees continue photosynthesizing? Right, And that's something
that people don't always know too, is that.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
You're talking about cut trees after the cut trees after
they've been cut down.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, so you know, depending on where you're at. You know,
you got Noble for Douglas Fir, Scotch Pine Frasier for
all those cut Christmas trees. You know, they are basically
a cut flower. You try to keep it in water
and you try to keep it absorbing water for as
long as possible. But people don't realize that it is
actually in your home, photosynthesizing and past. You know, it's

(18:21):
still alive, moving around to some extent.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
And because they're they're basically growing. Even though there's no roots,
the stomata which transpire and let water go into the
air are opening and because of that the tree can
dry out, which is why you need to have it
in water. I never understood when we came to California,

(18:47):
because you don't see this bad case, that they would
just put a wood stand on it and then bring
it in the house. And I had never seen that before.
But you know, that's that's the worst thing you can
do for maintaining the freshness of a tree. Now, when
you guys at your nursery, do that do you put
that on or do you have the the plastic bowl

(19:10):
bull on with.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
It always plastic bull yeah yeah, and you know we
give it a fresh cut, so you cut off about
an inch or so of trunk to you know, it's
like when you get a bouquet at home and you
do that.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
We're gonna take a break.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Okay, hold that thought though, I will.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Don't let it slip away. All right, We're going to
take a break BIS Talk Radio Facebook live from Tiger's
house in San Diego. Brian Main and John bagnasco Tiger
Pella Fox back after these messages on BIS Talk Radio.
All right, that was one heck of a break. We're
glad that you're with us. For those just joining us, welcome.
I mean, the door is always open, right knock and
we'll answer it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah. By the way, a quick answer to Rick's question,
he wanted to know if when I was an Idaho
we went to Edward's nursery and that was where the
point set that I was talking about.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
That's where I saw. That's all right, back to cutting
trees and dumb and so if you're gonna get a
cut Christmas tree, you know you want to give it
a fresh cut, and then you want to get that
in water as soon as possible, just like you, you know,
you when you bring flowers home and you give them
a nice little snip and then you put them right
into the vase that you're going to keep them in.
And then I mean everybody asks me, oh, what's the

(20:18):
secret to keeping a tree looking fresh or you know,
staying fresh?

Speaker 1 (20:22):
And then Tiger says, I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's a secret, right it want to be a secret anymore.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
But but I mean, in reality, all it is is
the room that you keep it in. You just got
to do your best to keep it cool. I mean,
you know, like you said, John, it's got to be
well lit, you know, because you want it to be
not in a dark dungeon room. But you don't want
that room to be having a fireplace that's running twenty
four to seven. You don't want to have your heat

(20:47):
on and keeping your room at you know, seventy eight
degrees with zero percent humidity. That's just gonna dry anything
out right away.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Now, when I got up this morning, it was fifty
degrees inside my house.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Would that be ideal for a That's like keeping your
Christmas treek in a refree So, you know, here's the
difference that'll last that'll last all the way into February four.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
With those tamps in the house. John tell Shannon, I'm
gonna go watch side and bring the orchids.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
In exactly exactly. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Speaking of that, it's time for me to cut it.
I lost the last little.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
So it's time for you to cut this down.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Got to cut it all the way down where you
go do it and take it outside.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Kevin, your buddy, Kevin wants to know where to find
a balsam fur. Balsam Yeah, but he's he's in Courtelaine.
I don't know if he wants to come down here
for it.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, exactly do they have those? And well, you would
you see did you do you see any trees up there?
Like varieties? You know?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
The ones I saw were nobles and firs and some
Scotch pine. But even when we were in Detroit, we
would get balsam fur, but not until just two weeks
before Christmas. And the reason was they lose their needles
the quickest. But everybody wants them because they smell so good.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Right, Yeah, you've got a two week window, right.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah. We used to bring them in here in California.
I don't know if you do.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
We we don't because like you said, it's yeah, they
lose their needles and even keeping.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
It as like a nursery.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
You know, do they get their nobles from locally or
do they bring them from Oregon Washington?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I would think probably Oregon in Washington. It's just my guess. Yeah,
but I've never seen. I haven't seen northern Idaho. I
don't know if there's Christmas tree farms up there or not.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Which which I also want to mention because this is
something that people talk about all the time too, you know,
fake tree like country. You know, Oh, I want to
do good for the environment, so I you know, get
a reusable fake tree. And and I mean we can
go round and round on theory and what you kind
of can do about for the environment or whatever. But

(22:58):
these Christmas trees aren't not coming from a forest where
people are going through them and deforesting. This is this
is a corn, This is a soybean. This is a
crop that they plant and then they replant right, and
they maintain and you know all and you never.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
You never worry about using too much corn.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
No, you know, you're.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Never worried about it. They're cutting down the cornfields. Yeah,
it's like fish farms.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, when they're running, you know, abalone farms, because we
fished them out of existence almost you know, speaking of that,
we went we went to No it stays in line
with with what we're talking about. So so last week
we went to Bully's, local restaurant here in San Diego.
Very inexpensive. You get a good deal. Whatever you walk at,
you feel like you got your money's worth. I look

(23:43):
at Abaloni's on the menu, I'm like, whoa after you know,
thirty forty fifty years, three ounces sixty dollars wow, six
ounces one hundred and nine dollars wow. And I said
these are coming from a farm. She goes, yeah, I
think this is from an abalonei arm somewhere down south
because over the years, they you know, we fished them

(24:05):
out of existence. You know, skin divers would always go
down and just you know, there was no rules of
regulations at that time.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, you can always have a baloney sandwich when you
were a kid, right, I love a balony, Yeah, abalony,
a baloney and mustard.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
A baloney sandwich?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh okay, I'm I'm slow on the I'm slow on
the uptake.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I wasn't here for a week. Yeah, it used to me,
and I wasn't here for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
What gave you two weeks to write a lot of material? Yeah,
so go ahead and try it out. Yeah, boloney and mustards, Okay,
real quick.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Tiger wanted to know why they advised you not to
put a flock tree in water.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Okay, I wouldn't know if they advise you.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
But it's similar to what we're talking about. Right. The
trees are still alive, right, but on a flock tree,
the stomata.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Are covered covered there like when you talk Italian.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I love it. They're still not cover, they're not uh,
they're not going to be transpiring, and they don't need
to take up water.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
So it's kind of flocking with somewhat fireproof too, right,
it is.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's a flame retardant, right exactly. So flock trees don't
require a bowl because you know, once you flock the tree,
it's preserved. It's preserved in the way that you flock it.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I thought flocking was illegal in this country.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Not a few only Yeah, in your home if it's
between consenting trees.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
But you know, and that's the thing, is uh with
with those trees. I mean, I mean, heck, you can
walk into a home with a flock tree and in
February it still looks the same as if they bought
it in December. So that's why they don't put the
It's it's kind of a a waste if you do
water it because it doesn't really need it, like John said,
And once it's all covered, it's not transpiring anything anyways.

(26:00):
But the beauty of the flocking is that it is
a flame retardant, so people do sometimes do it just
for that idea that it doesn't dry out. Yeah, sure tree. Yeah,
So what were we talking about before the flocking? And
before John you went on to the.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
We're farming.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
We're talking about Christmas where they come from the corn,
you know, Christmas trees. Okay, so Christmas trees are coming
from a farm. And you know, like John said, you're
not gonna just stop eating corn because people are cutting
down corn where the fake tree. Hey, by all means,
go for it, use it year after year. But in
a lot of ways that's almost worse for the environment

(26:40):
because number one, they're gonna end up in a landfill.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Two, you know, it's the whole plastic and everything else
behind it. So Christmas trees are a great way to
cut Christmas tree is actually a great way to kind
of you know, support that idea, that concept, and it
is and it is okay, it is good. You don't
have to worry about where you know, we're not cutting
down forests for these things.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And we have mentioned before that that in my opinion,
there we go. The ninety percent of everything you're told
is good for the environment is actually bad.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's usually has no effect on the environment or as harmful.
But that being said, always do your research.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Right, Yeah, you know your own opinion, make your own decisions. Fine.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Brian and I were talking before the show today about
something I think he said, Dana told him something she
had seen, uh, and he sounded that he was skeptical
about it. And he said, where'd you get that? And
she said, saw it on the internet.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, you know there's the news the internet.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
So the point isn't research it, go to two or
three different sources and then form that opinion based upon
you know, it's like they say, get a second opinion
from a doctor.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, anytime he or any time that you're skeptical on something,
just to ask people on Reddit what the truth is.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Just call us, call us and ask us. We're you know,
we're perfect. I do want to ask Lilah because I
was out at her house a week ago and I
was they had a leak, an irrigation leak, and we
found this hose bib that was.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Could be a great just completely off topic, but it
just popped into my head that if you were hybridizing
alien plants in the Alium family and you were breeding leaks,
would an irrigation be a great variety.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
An irrigation leak? Right, name name a leak that? Yeah,
Oh that's so funny. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, two weeks off.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I can come up with some stress leaks on wiki. Anyway,
I'm sorry I interrupted you.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I hope they got that fixed because we got a
minute to go to the break. He actually, you know,
this is something that was really cool. The reason why
they knew is the water company sent them a letter
saying we found that your your usage.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Oh yeah, it got normally high, right.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
And so that that instigated them to actually like reach
out to me and say, hey, we have a problem.
Can you come help me out? So I was like, well,
that's really neat that your water company didn't just send
you a thousand dollars bill and be like whatever you.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Found it, Yeah, we found it all right. Hey, when
we come back from the break, I have something I'd
like to do that I haven't asked you guys about.
So I think I'm going to do it anyway, because
if I ask, you might say nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I say no. So we have one more segment coming
up before the top of the hour news, which takes
place on Bistalk Radio, not Facebook Live. Our breaks on
Facebook Live are much quicker. So that said, we're going
to take a break. One more segment coming up. Our
one for BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live is Garden America,
broadcasting live from Tiger's house here in San Diego, Califor
on you back after these messages on biz Talk Radio. Okay,

(30:03):
back from the break.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
A reminder, because last week we did this for the
first time and it seemed to work out just fine.
We kind of break the show up and departs one
in parts two. So after we finish this segment.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
But almost like the first hour, in the second hour.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
You could call it that if you want to. We're
going to shut things down at the end of this
segment and then willing to re establish ourselves on Facebook Live, right, Tiger.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yes, Okay. What that'll look like is that we've gone away. Yeah,
it'll say that this video has ended. You go back
to our main page. There will be a new one
that will pop up, and then you start.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So give it's like starting the show all over again.
So give us a couple of two or three minutes
after we take that break, and then we'll start anew
This is one way that we've discovered that keeps us
going without somebody kicking us off without our consent.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay, So John has something he wants to ask us.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I actually wanted to ask a favor from our listeners,
because we have thousands of listeners that have various backgrounds
and much more information put together than any one of
us could ever hope to have on their own. And
as you know, I've just written my first novel and

(31:13):
I'm putting the finishing touches on it. And in the
it's a a literary historical thriller, is the best way
to describe it. And in this world building, there's certain
things that I've had to do that I've never done

(31:34):
before in writing a book, and it's really difficult if
you've never written a fiction book before to get a
first They say less than one percent of new literature
finds an agent, and I'm kind of looking for that.
But what I was if you are one of our
listeners and you enjoy reading the type of book I

(31:55):
just described, I would like to if you send me
a note to John at Gardinamerica dot com, I would
like to send you the first few chapters of my book.
Chapters one through four set the story, and I want
to comment on whether or not you would want to

(32:15):
read more after that. Then chapters five through eight describe
the antagonists or the villains in the story, and I
just want a description, like what do you think of
Are they plausible characters to you? Just those two things
are what I want to know. Now. If you don't
normally read those type of books, don't send me a

(32:39):
note and asked me to send it to you, But
if you do, I'd appreciate it, and any comment would
be appreciate. Appreciate it even if it's like, you know,
this is the worst writing I've ever read, or I
can't believe you would write something.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Don't quit your day job.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's like at least you've got the radio
to fall back on.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
They need any context or can they just read this?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Because all I want to know is whether you would
want to read you know, if you're interested using them? Right,
And because with the first four chapters, I have to
get an agent's attention, right. Yes, if listeners are saying,
you know, I would like to see I didn't really
like this or I didn't think this was interesting, you know,
then I know it because I'm putting together query letter

(33:24):
letters for agents, and after being rejected fifteen times, now
I and I'm still waiting for a bunch, but I'm
going to go through and adjust the query letters. So
anyway I would appreciate it. And yeah, dot Com just
a note to Johnathan get some.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Thumbs up, thumbs up on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
And if if I do send it to you and
you read it and don't think it's worth the effort
to reply, you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, maybe just don't reply.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
What was it that Thumper's father used to tell.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Him, I mean, are like in Bambie?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, like if you can't say something.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Nice, don't say anything at all, to which a lot
of parents grabbed onto that quote for years.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Right, right, Yes, Unfortunately I've never Kevin's in Where do
we get the book? Let's pay attention, Kevin. The book's
not out yet. I'm trying to get an agent. So Kevin,
just send a note johnni Gardanamerica dot com and.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
He'll send you the first four chapters, right.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Actually the first a chap, first, a chapter, two parts.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
And the point is, Kevin, do those first eight chapters
give you enough inkling to want to read the rest
of the book?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Okay, Yeah, Lenora's already dying to read your book, John.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
You know, now, hold on, she's not literal literally dying. Yeah,
just been talking about that, but yeah, it's you know,
I have to admit that that if I read it,
I would want to read more.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I wanted to read more than what you sent me.
Of course it was about me, wasn't it in a
weird sense?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Right? You know? We were talking about how when I
started to write the book, to keep the characters straight,
I use the names of people I knew that went
back and changed them. But you and Tiger both asked
me to keep your names in there. Yeah, so uh
I went into So just because you guys have your

(35:25):
names in the book doesn't mean those.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Are are you York?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Are you? It's not you?

Speaker 3 (35:31):
But she would hold up the court right.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But you know, I because I know you guys so well,
there's characteristics of you that are in the book. You know.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
The Brian character in the book happens to do podcasts,
you know, which.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Is there's a little radio on the side.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
There's a little radio on the side.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Rive as a wife named Dana, yeah, and a cat
name yeah, three cats, and the character named it's a surfer.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
So yeah, there are some characters.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
The last time you surfed last weekend? Really Sunday is Sunday?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Where are you going? Where's your where's your hangout?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Wall Street? Pacific Beach Street?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Man?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
That is so old school.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
That is soldool.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I mean that's that's my neck of the woods. Everyone,
it's going to Low Street.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah. No more wind and Sea, the pump house, No
more Winden. Was it called the pump house when you
were growing up?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
You know there's that giant pump room that services position
a Pacific beaches like underwater.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Is that is that shack at wind and sea still there.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah. Wow, yeah, a lot.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Of history there.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
So next week's show is going to be about surfing
implants yep.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And John's book.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
And John's book. Yeah, yeah, we like to drift. Are
we caught up on the questions comments?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
We are? And I just did want to I posted
a link or a note, but I just want to
find everybody that this will this video will end. We're
gonna shut down, don't We did it on purpose?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yep? Yeah, yeah, we are choosing when to shut down.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
You go back to the main page and we will
start up a new one, just because we like to
be able to control that. You ran any issue in
the past where Facebook was kicking us off after a
certain amount of time and it was difficult for us
to log back on where if we found that, if
we control.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
It, if we do it ourselves, it's like it's like
starting over again.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah, makes it makes it a little easier.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
So let's take a break, now, shall we.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, let's take a break and then we'll get back
with the second hour. We have some wonderful plans to
talk about We're going.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
To talk about again, So we're going to be shutting
down on purpose, So we'll be back now for BIS
Talk Radio six minutes after that. That time is different
than what the real time here is on Facebook Live.
This is Guarden America Brian Main and John Macnasco, Tucking
Pela Fox. Thank you for joining us. We're going to
take a break six minutes after we come back on
BIS talk Radio Facebook Live. Just keep watching, log back

(37:49):
in and we'll do part two or the second half
of the show. As John says, after these messages and
news on BIS talk Radio, we are back. If you're
tuned in on biz talk Radio, welcome to our number two.
If you're a long and dedicated Facebook Live viewer and listener,
welcome back as well. We are here top of the

(38:11):
hour break for news and of course top of the
hour break for us to reset things here. This is
our number two or part two, depending upon how you
want to look at that, John, but we are back.
We are live on air right now on Facebook Live,
pre recorded on BIZ Talk Radio. And I hope you
enjoyed the first the first hour the first show. If not,
you're welcome to join us anytime and we'll just pick
it up from there.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I was just thinking about being ready and rested since
you just came back from the restroom during the break.
Are you now rested, Tan, rested and ready?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Well, yeah, you didn't see it. You just laid out,
don't you remember back in the seventies that was an
old Nixon thing. I'm tan rested and ready and I'm back.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Is that you're the least hand part because he went
to like a tropical vacation.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
His house was in San Clementy.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
So that so he feels San Clemente is a place
where you can get a Tanne.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I told you I had dinner at his house once.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
No, I didn't whose house at Nixon.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
At the Western San clement Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, Shannon's a nice Yeah you know who Well, I
don't know if they still own it, but the person
that bought it after Nixon left was Gavin Herbert, who
was the owner of Rogers Gardens. Yeah really yeah, so
flower money, huh Yeah. So so we were invited over there,

(39:34):
and I remember Shannon going, she had to use the restroom,
and she came back. Her comment was, you know, I
wonder whose butt's been on this toilet?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Who the things I would think about?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Didn't Sharon have some plates at her house there's some
dinnerware that came from the White House.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Or from No no, no no, that was that's a
long story, but had had nothing to do with that,
but it does have something to do with the Band
of Brothers. So maybe someday, when we've got more time,
we can go into that story.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
All right, our numbers are coming up. People are starting
to log back on.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah we're here.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Hey, I'm interested.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
You know, last segment you had let our last Yeah,
last segment, you let people know that we're going to
be talking about some of the plants we have here.
And I was really interesting interested. I've been really interesting sometimes,
but I was really interested in the tomato that you brought. It.
It come up from a seed, but I think it's

(40:37):
one of the spoon type tomatoes, right Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
If you're watching on Facebook Live right now, you can
kind of see this tomato branch that I pulled off
of the plant, and you can see they're like, what
do they call us cluster?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, they're like peace sized tomatoes, right yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
And that's as big as it's going to get. Yeah,
that's as that's the tomato size right there.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
And they're sweet, right, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
The spoon ones were I don't think this one's right, And.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
That's not right.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
What's that variety? What do they call it?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Spoon? They call it spoon because you can get what
a dozen and a teaspoon?

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Right, Yeah, I mean they talked about that, right, that's
what they called it, because the right but.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
They're there's that's a class of tomatoes. It's usually referred
to as current tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
And do you remember our description of those tomatoes last
time when we were talking about it, because they are
sweet and they're small, like a peace size, and we
talked about remember we discribed we described them as boba,
you know, like, oh, they because they really do have
an amazing flavor, sweet, very tomato esque and they burst,

(41:50):
you know, I mean they're you know, I'm like a
tomato that it's a burst of flavor. Well, un like
a tomato that you take a bite into, right, this
is one that is like a boba and it with
all that tomato flavor. And it's wonderful to use in salads.
And rather than using a cherry tomato, yeah, which sometimes
can be a little bit even big for a salad,

(42:10):
these ones you can just sprinkle.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Again, you could hide them in a salad don't tell
and not tell somebody and then go. But the salads sweet?
What's in here? Can you imagine a beef steak tomato
that size that sweet? What wouldn't that be? Wouldn't that
I mean a tomato, a huge tomato. It has the
same sweetness as Okay, that would be overwhelming, wouldn't it
a little bit?

Speaker 3 (42:28):
It's like, I'm very confused about what you're.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Trying to No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, because
those are small and very sweet, yes, take that same
sweetness in a huge tomato.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Beef steak size. Yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
And Rick is wondering what tomato has the highest sugar
content now?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
And that's changed over the years. John, We're not.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Growing tomatoes anymore, so I don't know if I'm up
with what's current. But the last one that I remember
was sweet a pair of teeth. Yes, so sweet appartee
is probably the sweetest. But you know, do you really, Brian,
did you need anything sweeter than sun sugar? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I was gonna say it's very common. Yeah, you know,
so most people find the.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Sun sugar and sun gold.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
So yeah, those those are all all good sweet tomatoes.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
You put the sun and gold together, you can't lose, right.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
So the other plants that I put out here, the blossoms,
I should say, the high biscus. I mean, isn't it
fun that we are in, you know, December right now
and you know these hibiscus full bloom, absolutely gorgeous. Is
your your high biscus blooming or no?

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, this is the time of the year that it
blooms spring and summer occasionally, but now and I've got
the dinner sized hibisco large flower ones and yeah, they
blooming all the time this time of the year.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, exactly, Carolyn tiger As, didn't we sell those tomatoes
years ago? And we did? And I think after I
stopped growing them, you grew one year for gardener's supply, right, yeah,
And did you grow that for them?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
You've got the spoon. Yeah, no, this spoon came from
tomato Mania.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Oh okay, yeah, so event Carolyn says that she still
has a few volunteers every year from that. So that's
what that exactly, as.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
A volunteer just came up in the garden and I'm like,
oh wow, look at that go Sometimes this plant also
kind of looked like a because tomatoes are a salanum.
So when it was first coming up, you know how
that night shade salanum weed will sometimes come up in
a yard. At first I thought it was that. Then
I was like, no, I think it's actually an actual tomato.

(44:38):
So I was happy to see it.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Joyce says that she's planning boys and berries from a
friend who's thinning them out this time of year.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Really.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah, so this is actually a good time if you're
dividing certain perennials and berry bushes to go ahead and
get them in the ground now and then they'll take
off for spring.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Do you just dig these up because they're kind of
like it's kind of like runners, right, just dig up
a cluster, yeah, and then you know, wind the roots
like bermuda grass. I was gonna say, you just dig
it up, you find a root system. Yeah. And then
Tanya wrote, my bird of Paradise is full of blooms.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
This is a time of year for bird of Paradise.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
It is, but I mean it's kind of meat with
this winter tropical look hibiscus bird of Paradise, the plumerias
are not so much.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
You know, mine hasn't lost off its leaves yet. Yeah,
it's kind of just hanging in there with a flower
or two. It looks like yours tiger basically, So.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
You guys both had leaves this year, exactly in flowers.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
John's like, wait a minute, plumes have leaves. I thought
they were just the big stems.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Someday, someday I'll I'll learn how to grow plumeria.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Well, you know, what I kind of feel you need
a little bit is some protection, and when your trees
get more established, you'll have those pockets of the yard
that aren't so exposed because I think your battle during
the winter though, well I know, but those trees will
protect full.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
The frost from that. What you're talking about cold weather,
little pockets? Yeah maybe, yeah, maybe so far no cold
weather this year. It's cold, Yeah, it's cold. Yeah, when
it's fifty degrees inside the house, maybe it's getting cold.
But you know, we we mentioned the first hour that

(46:35):
we've got a week of eighty degree temperatures coming up.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Ye, high high seventies, low eighty.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
That's very dry right in Santa Ana kind of weather.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, so you would probably hear you'll probably be high sixties,
low seventies, right, yep, exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's that time of the air.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
You know. I noticed, looking over to my left, Tiger
your banana. I was those?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Well, I said something last week to Tiger, Are there
any Are they any good? And he said, no, they
don't taste They don't taste as good as they look.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, well, isn't that nice?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Are those ones? Will probably be ready next week and
so we'll pull some off and you guys can do
a little tea.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, absolutely, they Those aren't plantains.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I kind of think they are. I kind of think they.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Planteins aren't supposed to be good. Well, I got to.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Cook them, I know, but I don't bite them anyway.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
You know, that's a question for our listeners. Everybody knows
how to identify bananas. How do you identify the banana?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I've got a book at my house in my library
you could check out called bananaa Dummies Banana Varieties of
the World.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Will you send me? Will you send me the log
in information to register for your library so I can
put my info in to check out a book. Please?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
We got to take a break. We're talking bananas.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
You want to apply for a library? What I'm saying,
all right, all right?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Taking a break for BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. Do
stay with us, This says Garden America. You have to
admit that was one heck of a break. It is
a Garden America break, It's a Garden America show. It's
a Garden America segment. And we are back just joining us, Sir.
I have no idea what's going on. We are broadcasting
live from Tiger's house, his backyard here in San Diego, California.
Sun is out. It's gonna be a beautiful day in

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the neighborhood, right, mister Rogers.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
I went to his statue in Pittsburgh. You got a
statue right outside the I thought, no, that's in Philadelphia, Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Where were you?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Right outside I think it's a Steelers stadium
on the water. He is a beautiful memorial. That's a
statue of him just sitting there looking out over the water.
I don't remember what river it is.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
What's the Alleghany. There's three, the Monongahela and the Ohio.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Isn't that three Rivers Stadium?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yes, exactly, but it's the Ohio again, the Monongahela and
the what was the third and the Alleghany?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
So yeah, and so what's with pitch burn. I probably
should have looked more. Wow, I'm sure he's probably from
there or something. But you walk up and then they
have audio and it's all of his little proverbs that
you know, welcome to the neighborhood and you know all
that stuff. So it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Hi, Hi there, can you say alleghany? I knew you could.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
All right, we have questions in coming.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah. Daisy wants to know if she can prune her
per semontry now. She said, all the fruit's been harvested,
can she do.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
It now, to which John would say, no, wait till
two o'clock this afternoon, right.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Or should she wait until January with the other fruit trees.
She's up in the Bay Area. And don't judge her.
She's a fifth generation San Diego. Oh nice, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Up to the Bay Area of all places. Yeah, I
don't know that was a positive move.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, our friend Tanya's in the bay Judge, No judge,
this is judge.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Tanya's a San Jose Shark fan by the way.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, and Tanya just chimed in, Daisy, there's nothing wrong
with being in the Bay Area.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
No, Simon, what are you gonna do John, you know
what are we gonna when are we gonna cut of weight?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
You're gonna wait, are you gonna you know, they just
dropped their leaves right, And I think I might wait
just a little bit because and the only reason is
I don't know what the temperature is gonna be like
in the Bay Area. But if you get a warm spree,
warm streak, you don't want to encourage growth. So that's

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the biggest risk.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yeah, you trim and when you trim things and the
weather stays nice, now they grow.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, now you probably don't have that's probably not as
much of a problem in the Bay Area is down here,
you know because again going into like if you went
through and prune your your uh say, your hibiscus, now
you're gonna encourage new growth.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
So what fell?

Speaker 4 (50:56):
I don't know, something hit the roof. It's that time
something because there's nothing above.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
This was that Santa's checking on you. Tiger wants to see
if you've been naughty or nice.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
So yeah, I mean we've talked about this before, where
you know, you want to wait for some of this
pruning until you know you're going to get cold weather
because then the plant stays dorm it per Simmons. I mean,
are those tropical or they not subtropical?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Mediterranean? Yeah, Mediterranean.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
As a matter of fact, my grandmother when we lived
in Detroit had a persymmetry on her yeah, in her
yard that but they would treat it like a fig tree.
They would every winter wrap it in straw and burr
lap and then build a little case around it, yeah,
to to protect it. But yeah, so they're Mediterranean type trees.

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They're drought tolerant, you know, once they're established.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
So yeah, not not tropicals, not like a low quat
or or avocados or citrus or things like that. Even
citrus or somewhat mediterrane.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Oh. I always classified citrus is more like a little
bit more of a tropical fruit. Yeah, they are, pretty much,
but they are mediterrane What do we say they're from China? China? Asia?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, it depends, I think, like what the finger limes
are from Australia, some are from Asia. You know. I'm
wondering about South America because I do know that the
original Washington navels came from there, but I don't know.
They might have.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Came from somewhere and then came there.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, they might have gone there, so I'm not sure.
So Rick had mentioned he was in Dana Point. Do
you want to know why?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah, we talked to him about it last time.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
He's leaving for Thailand this afternoon. Yeah, he wants to know.
It's his first trip overseas. Wow, that seems like an
odd place to go.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
For your first for your first one, that's what eighteen
hours or something.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, yeah, he wants to know. If you have any advice.
I've never been to I've never actually been to Asia.
Have you?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
I've been to Bali?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Is that it's Indonesia. That's Indonesia. That's close.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I mean I did a layover in Japan.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
To get to Bali.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, I think what was the big city Kuala Lumpur.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yes, still yeah, which used to be what did it
used to be? Oh gosh, because it was one of
those names like like Bombay. Now they changed the name.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Really, Kuala Lumpur used to be something else. I think,
unless I'm thinking I've never been to a.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
No on has changed to something.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
And he's there all the way through Christmas, so he's
there for a long time.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah, if you're gonna go that far yeah, you get
worth it. Get worth it.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
There's a plant market in chang Mai, and that's something
that's been on my bucket list, is to visit the
plant market in chang Mai. If I think that those
are the highlands in Thailand, if you have the opportunity
to visit, since you're going to be there for so long, Rick,

(54:30):
go there, take some pictures. I think you're it's supposed
to be one of the areas the premiere areas in
the world for tropical varieties and Thailand. Thailand is also
doing the breeding with uh plume area. Lots of Plumeria
hybrids there, uh adeniums And what's the other thing that

(54:56):
I wanted to say?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Oh, well, I said, it's.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
One other thing that they're doing the philade the the
you know there wasn't that where also they were in
the tarns are doing a lot of the philodendrons.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
The why I can't Why can't they think of it?
You know? The split the philadel isn't isn't Thai constellation
right from didn't Did you do a lot of breeding there
with that stuff?

Speaker 2 (55:25):
You know, I'm not sure that it's breeding or if
it's sports. They find but there'll be a lot of
variegates there that are are new. So yeah, a lot
of the new stuff is coming from there, so you're
gonna have a great trip. I've never been there. Shannon
went with the Ship of Hope. She was working as
a nurse on the Ship of Hope and went to Thailand,

(55:51):
Cambodia and Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Am I thinking of Catman Do no.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Because Catman Do is in Nepal?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, there's there's a name change going on
there somewhere.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Who wasn't there a song called.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Catman that was Bob Seger? Bob Seeker, Yeah, Bob Seger. Okay,
we're going to take a break as we continue on
this wonderful voyage today here on Guard in America. Brian
Main and John bagnasco Tiger Pella Fox. A break for
our friends on BIS Talk Radio. Thank you to our sponsor,
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hear on BIS Talk Radio. Stay with us. Okay, here

(56:32):
we go. Stand by. All right, we are back. As
we stand by. We stood by. Once you stand by,
you can go live. John, So we are back. Any questions,
comments or corrections, on Catman Do or Nepal or anything
like that tiger that you can see.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
No, Okay, we're just moving along now. Okay, I think that,
you know, one of the things I wanted to mention
also as we kind of get into this time of year,
we were talking about, you know, the right time to
prove the presymmetries and and things like that. You know,
we've mentioned this before, but fertilization of the yard slows

(57:09):
down in the wintertime. You don't want to we don't
want to push growth, definitely don't want to use you know,
synthetic fertilizers that are going to push growth as the
cold weather comes on. But you know, John was mentioning,
you know, back east, where people will start to heavily
molt for frost protection, they'll start to put down some
of the other protections. Same thing here in southern California

(57:33):
and on the western side of the United States too.
It is a great time to kind of mult because
if you put the molts down now, you know, it
will begin to break into the soil. I mean a
lot of times they put down molt for you know,
keeping moisture in and weed prevention, but at the same
time for the winter time, you're giving it that time

(57:55):
to actually get into the soil and break down. By
the spring when you want to play at in the spring,
you know the soil will be much you know, easier
to work with a little bit more lively, you know.
One of the comments earlier by one of our listeners
was found it interesting on how sometimes for people things
are so easy thing for people to grow, and sometimes

(58:19):
people have a challenge growing certain things. And it's not
always about where you live, because it could just be
just as easy for me to grow something as you,
because we live here in San Diego, right, But soil
in a yard makes a huge difference of what you're
successful with. And I kind of feel like that all
starts with mulching and amending the soil.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
So what kind of soil did you have when you
moved in here? Or was it for the most part dirt.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
So I live in a I mean these houses were
built in the sixties, right, so it's twenty twenty right now,
This soil has been amended, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Over fifty sixty years. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
The worst places are the new track homes because it's
all filder, it's all cut soil, it's all dgs.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Oh yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
So all these new homes people go in there wanting to.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Garden, and the soil is worthless.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
You might as well invest twice as much as what
you're going to put in plants and your landscape into
just getting that soil up and up and running, because
it is not good at all. And so I would
say I have very wonderful I would consider it loam soil.
But it's sixty years old of yards, you know, and

(59:42):
not only that, the yard that I have was neglected
for probably about fifteen to twenty years really, which is
actually kind of a good thing because that was someone
that just left the leaf litter, left the weeds, left
the debris, amending that soil.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
The environment. It was doing its own thing, and so
it was all natural.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
I actually have pretty good soil. I mean, yes, there's clay,
but there's clay everywhere in San Diego that you run into.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Not at my house.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
You just you just have DG straight and g R.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
You know, you were talking about mulching and how important
it is. It's also if you have slopes. You know,
if the rain's coming, it breaks up the rain, so
you you don't have as much erosion. So that's another
benefit of mulching, you know. Brian. Back to your questions.
I did check with Ai to see, uh what the
former name of Kuala Lumpur was and the answer was nothing.

(01:00:41):
It's always been Kuala lump So.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
We changed it from nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
From nothing. And what I was thinking of when I
said Salon or Ceylon that is now Sri Lanka. Oh,
I've got Burma, Burma's me and Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Me and more. That's right, that's what I That's what
I was thinking of, from Burma to me and mar
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, so you were just on a completely wrong track.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
No, I was on the right part of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
You know. I think I had my latitude mixed up
with my longitude. I think that's what happened there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
You don't want to mix your longitude, you the boy.
Things come out if you do that. It's all blended together,
bleeds together.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
And then Tiger was in Japan thinking he was in
where would you think, Bally Bali?

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah, Bally Carolyn mentioned I was wondering if you're talking
about Siam, Siam, there's another one. Yeah, King of Siam?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Is that the king? And I wither and Deborah Deborah carry,
How do I know these things? It just kind of
sticks in there and you pull it out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yes, it's osmosis. It just you know, that's why is
it good for your plans? I don't know if it's
good for your plants, but.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Put some osmosis on there, even if.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
You don't try. By the time you get to be
in your sixties or seventies, you know a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, it's just back in the brain. It's like a computer.
You know. People are funny when they delete something you
didn't delete it, which you delete is still in your computer.
You've just moved things around, basically.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Yeah. One of the lines from my book talking about
actually Brian talking about deleting or don't or catch this,
don't delete it, and he goes and the program manager
says to him, nothing ever disappears anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
It's true. Yeah, especially these forensic it's there forever. You know,
the police get a hold of you know, your computer,
and forensically they go through and they go, you know what,
he deleted all these things, but it's actually found over
here in this part of the computer we had.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I don't know if we talked about this, but we're
going to do Aunalaskan tour next June. I think not
Guarden America, right, but you're welcome, welcome to come.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
If you I did Alaska cruise years ago and loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Did you really?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I What I did not
know though, is that that if you're going to Canada
and you've ever had a DUI, forget it. You can't
get in.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Really.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, there's they passed a new law than anyone who
ever ever ever has a DUI cannot go in unless
it happened before the law was passed. So I think
it was like nineteen eighty six. If you had a
d UI before nineteen eighty six, you can get a

(01:03:49):
lawyer and you can fill out paperwork and be deemed rehabilitated.
You can be deemed rehabilit illitated, which just seems pretty
extreme to me, A.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Little extreme, I could understand in the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Maybe, So that would be like, if you're going to Alaska,
you can't go through Canada. Not that I've never had
a d do you I I never have either, Yeah,
but but there you go. Yeah, I never do that.
I was shocked to find out because the weird came
up because.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
And weird questions. They ask you to go on trips, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah. One of our friends, we were at a bunch
of guys get together for breakfast every Friday, and he
was talking about it and mentioned that he had a
DUI fifty five years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
My goodness, and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
He just let you go and say slow down.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah, And he went to fill out one of those
global passes, you know for TSA. You can get the
pre check right for the US, but then there's a
global one and he said you had to said have
you ever been convicted of anything? And he put down yes,

(01:05:18):
and he's you know. Then they said, you know, when
was it during the interview and he goes fifty five
years ago and he says, well, you're denied.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Obviously, you haven't learned your lesson in fifty five years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
It's like I was eighteen years old.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
What are you talking to My brain hadn't completely developed yet. Well,
that that is pretty extreme, I know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
It's we should do that with gardening limit people killed.
If you've killed eight plants, you can no longer buy more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Right, you have to wait a year or at least
the same type, right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
We used to say that you never give up growing
a plan until you've killed it three times.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
We have one minute to the break, and then after
that break, one more short segment. All right, we're moving
right along here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah, it's been a good Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
It has been.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
We we covered our Thanksgiving holiday last show.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Now we're getting into the Christmas holiday. You know, we
talked about Christmas trees, We talked about points steady is.
We talked about Cycloman with John on the last episode.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Oh yeah, now cool, Yeah that they have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I haven't mentioned yet Thanksgiving Cactus.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Which we're going to talk about after the break. How
about that brief.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Talking about Psycho cactus or schlumbergera we'll find out speaking
of d Ui Schlimberger Schlumberg.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
All right, we're gonna take a break. We've got one
more segment coming up. Facebook Live, BIS Talk Radio. Thank
you so much, Brian Main, John Begnascar, Tucket, Pala Fox
Here Garden America live or pre recorded as well from
San Diego, California. Stay with us. Okay, we are back
and again this is our final segment, So pay attention, class,
come on listen, listen. Listen, right, listen, class listen bueller.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Okay, so we did get a think it goes look
look listen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Oh yeah, look look, I know you know where I'm
coming from. I think we've got a comment from Carla
John Right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yeah, Tiger Carlo said that she fell into the twilight
zone and she wants to know what the best method
for returning the show. Should she just stay on and
not turn it off.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Well, so you really you can't, but it will pop
up when we do go live again. Gardener in America
is live, just like the very beginning of the show. Yeah,
but the best thing to do is to just go
back to our main Facebook page and then refresh until
it says it's live again, and then it'll pop back
up there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
And it did take us what did it take us?
About two? Three minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Well four or five probably closer to five minutes, Okay, Yeah,
so you know it's it's tough, but you kind of
have to just hang out, refresh, yeah or yeah, or
even shut Facebook off and log back on again, just
like the beginning of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah. Marguerite said the same thing that she just tries
to stay on, but yeah, don't say I said, you
cannot do that. Yeah, it's a whole new show, so
you've got.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
To Yeah, basically it is. Yeah, it's a whole new
show with the same ideas as the previous show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Oh my gosh, that just gave me a headache.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
I like to do that to you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I love that our listeners, they have their own thing
went on. I mean, you know, I'll text you later, goodbye, everybody,
I'll see you next week. You know, so and so
is meeting up with so and so, and you know,
are we creating relationships as well? We're do they even
know where we have a show?

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Hey, hey we're over here. Hey what about us?

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
When we start digressing on our Canadian passports and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Yeah, then they just just figure, yeah, well we'll talk
amongst ourselves till you get it out of you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
But before the break, yeah, Slumberger which so you know
every every season, you know, there's those plants that come out.
We were talking about psyching. We talked about what you
said it is Christmas cactus. Christmas cactus are the other
plant that hits right now. Everybody loves them, bright, vibrant colors,

(01:09:24):
easy to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
But they're really thanksgiving case.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
They are not Christmas cactus? Right? What what?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
What is the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
What is it again? Is it Slumbergia?

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Which one? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Thanksgiving? Which one?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Is it? That psygo cactus?

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Okay, so the Thanksgiving one is zygot right, Christmas cactus.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
And actually that's called them uh lobster cactus. They're the
ones with the pointed uh segments to the leaves. The
Christmas cactus. The umberger has rounded smooth yeah, yeah, smooth segments.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
And they won't hit the market until well they just
bloom later. They bloom a couple of weeks later.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So if you see them
until like actually after Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Well you can see him before Christmas, but you don't
see as many because they're not There hasn't been a
lot of breeding with them, so you don't see all
the colors, got it that you do with the zygo cactus.
So they come out there they're sold as Christmas cactus,
but they're actually you know, they start blooming at Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Yeah, and they usually are out of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Bloom by Christmas, not always, but usually got it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
And that but both types are really easy to start
from cuttings.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Oh yeah, and I love the people that have had
them in that pot on their back patio and just
this massive plant. But then this time of year it
just gets covered with blood. Yeah, they're so spectacular.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
So gets covered with blooms depending where you are. And
the reason is that they need cold to set their buds,
and if you have them, if you're in a cold
climate like Michigan or Idaho, they won't set their buds

(01:11:20):
if they're indoors the whole time. They refuse, right, yeah,
in a if they're in a heated room, but they freeze,
so you can't put them outside. So what they need
is is a maybe an unheated port, you know where
the temperature doesn't go below freezing but does get cold,
kind of like symbidium orkets.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yes, they think what I'm doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Yeah, yeaheah, I'm talking about Yeah, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
What do you mean with his organ?

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I got in my orcan. I gotta cut the stem
now because all the flowers going to put it outside
and put it outside for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Yeah, so I'm going to cut.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
It all the way down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Well that you're talking about a flien oposis though, right, Yes,
failing ops just don't eat cold they actually don't do
well with cold.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
But when you leave it in the house, they tell
you to take it outside.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
But who are they? I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
No, But because when you leave it in the house,
it's you know, seventy five degrees all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Which is what they prefer.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Believe it is that what I have. It's the same picture.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
I say you, John, are you con confusing those with
miltonias or pathio pedulums.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
I was told from I just want to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Know who's giving you, who's feeding you this information?

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
From rocket farms? You remember rocket farms? Yeah, you know
rocket farms. They said that when your failing office is
done blooming, cut the stem and then put it on
your porch outside because a lot of people will keep
them inside put it on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Is that's just because of light though, to crease the
amount of light that they get.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Maybe maybe, yeah, I told they were They say, put
it outside and then it'll bloom quicker if they it's
outside rather than if it's inside. Well, maybe what I'm
gonna be It's gonna be the guinea big We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Well, you know, I I learned something new every day,
so this would be something new, and I'll take.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I'll roll the dice and take a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Do you have inside? Because you do grow them? I've
seen them.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
Well, Shannon grows, but you just throw them away when
they're done. She likes to let them die outside. No,
she just ignores them indoors until they're come.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
I'm gonna cut it. Put it outside underneath the even
the pres need.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
The cold, yes to set blooms.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah, that's definitely the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Definitely true for a symbity. Yeah. People bring them indoors
when they're blooming and then put them back up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
I'm putting it outside. I'm gonna cut it. Huh, Well,
I mean, I mean this is the picture I sent you.
So do we have the right species? The right? Are
we talking about the right? The right one?

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Here?

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
John doesn't even remember what picture using.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
I sent him two pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Yeah, because you responded to me recently.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
What time is John? What time does John's right get here?

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
We can answer a question. We got to go, Rick answered,
what conditions are ideal to grow? Let us? They love cool?
They love it to be cool, A very mild got
to take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
We're done. Hey, thank you so much for tuning in.
We're up against the clock for BIZ Talk Radio. Thank
you so much, John Begnasco, I'm Brian Main, Tucker Powler Fox.
We'll do it again next week right here from Tiger's backyard,
San Diego, California. For the entire crew, thank you so much.
And until next week, can we still say it? Yes,
we can get growing America. Take care, Catch you next time.
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