Garden Talk and One Hit Wonders - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [10.18.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, good morning. Here we are it is Yes, it's
Guard in America. I'm Brian Maine along with the Tiger
Palafox and we are broadcasting once again from Tiger's backyard
actually underneath his patio here from San Diego, California. And
we're still good.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We're still good good.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, better late than never those that have been waiting,
you know, since eight oh six. Again, here we go
with a few little little glitches, as we like to
say in the business, and but here we are. We're gonna,
we're gonna do this as long as we can.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we're gonna hold through to it as far and
as long as we can. We'll kind of try to
get as many questions answered for people right away and
just continue the show.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And I wish there was an answer, you know, if
somebody says, well, what's the problem, it's very it varies. Yeah,
there's various issues going on with so many technical aspects
of what we're doing here. But again, like you said, here,
we're ready, we're gonna, we're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
So the only person, the person that's not here though
today is John Big Now.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
He's in the lone Star state of Texas. Yeah, and
we we thought he might call in. We were hoping
to try to get on the on the show. We'll
see if we can connect it, because we would love
to try to test the phone system out for this
new seah too. Exactly. So John is there with family
and they're having a good time. They're going to go
watch a comedian and just hang out with family and
friends in Texas. So you and I for the next

(01:15):
I don't know, hour and a half or whatever it takes, yeah,
or as long as as we're on the.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Air, exactly, as long as long as it allows us
to write.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So this is now, you're still wearing shorts, but you
put a sweater on.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'm formal on top and casual down on the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Business on top, business on top, and party on the bottom.
Is they say that usually that usually was attributed to mullets.
So anyway, Yeah, so we're when I drove in today,
fifty four degrees. Yeah, so we're starting we're starting to
feel the cold weather.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
The high is supposed to be in the eighties today too,
so it's going to be a warm weekend. But then
it's going to cool off again.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
And which is what it did last week. It was
in the sixties, I thought, Okay, here we go, get
a slide into fall and then back up into the eighties.
So those that are listening to us from different parts
the country are probably saying to themselves, what a bunch
of whissies. You know what's funny is fifty six degrees
is nothing?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Lisa wrote heater under the table, and believe it or not,
Oh yeah, we actually have a fire pit that's in
front of our table. That's like just creating a nice
little warm because we did run into a little bit
of some cool temperatures last time we were here, and
I was like, sure, it might be nice to have
a little bit warmer area.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know, this time of the year. I've got a
portable heater that I bring into the bathroom when I shower.
But it does two things. So here's the beauty. It
keeps the mirror from getting flogged up, oh does. And
I never knew that until the first time I used it.
I got it.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Whoa, there's all the lot, there's all those little things
that people live around the country have regionally, you know.
You know, I never understood the whole heated bathroom floor thing,
because I mean, let's be real, in San Diego, we
might need that, you know, one or two months out
of the year kind of a thing. But there are

(02:58):
parts of the country and parts of the world that
when you walk out in the morning and you step
on that tile, it's cold.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
And our cold is you know, when it's forty degrees here,
we're just like going crazy with cold.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Anybody else you know that lives in cold part of
the country would say, I'd love it to be forty.
It's minus ten where I am, so give me forty
degrees any any time we have people that are tuned in.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, everybody's saying thanks for working hard on getting the
show going, and you know, we're looking forward to chatting
with everyone. So I will say, if you're listening to
the show, now, get your questions in now.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
We want to try to get to people's answers as
soon as possible.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
And with John being gone, it does it's one last person,
so plenty plenty of time, plenty of more time, I
should say, to get to those questions and those comments
here on guard in America, Hey welcome those people on
biz talk radio, Yeah, who replay this show the following week.
We appreciate Stephanie and her crew every week, and sometimes
I have to call Stephanie and say, hey, go ahea

(04:00):
and replay a show you your choice. Yeah, we have
a little problem dealing with dealer's choice exactly now.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
You know, speaking of the biz talk radio fans out there,
you know we would love to hear from you as well.
We understand that you know you're listening to a pre
recorded show. Sure that's fine because we still are accessible
via Facebook.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Facebook at Garden America Radio Show Facebook page.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
You can go to our website and contact us via
our website, So please tell us where you're from. Ask
your Garden questions. We'll get the answer for you. We'll
even send it to you either in the Facebook message
or we'll send you an email back. But it's also
good to have for the next show. We'll have those
questions and we'll kind of go over them when we
have the next show that airs on the Bistog Radio network.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
To make it even more simple or simpler simple, I
don't know. I make up words all the time. You
can also email John at Gardanamerica dot com. Yeah, that's
John at Gardanamerica dot com. And he doesn't mind because
he takes emails and garden questions all the time, John
at garden dot com. For those on Bistok radio, want
to get some answers to your garden questions. And again,

(05:05):
if you're back east to throughout the Midwest, it's going
to get real cold. Now, not much to happen as
far as the garden, but there are still things you
can do.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, definitely. And I will say one another note for
people that are asking their questions is try to do
your best to include a few photos, not just a photo.
A few photos. Try to take a picture of the plant,
maybe from afar, maybe take a picture of what the
problem is of close different couple angles, just so that

(05:33):
way we can help determine what's going on or what
you're you know, to help answer your question, because some
kinds the description isn't enough.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Sure, yeah, exactly, Just like when somebody comes to you
in the nursery and says, my plant died. Yeah, okay,
what kind of care are you giving it? Are you
watering it? Oh? I water every day and that's when
I'd say, you know what, I think you're overwatering?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, And then they say, oh no, no, no it
was dry and you're like, okay, well, so.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
We need as much information as possible. In pictures are
a big help.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, Plumeria. Question from Joyce is it time to cut
back the cut back watering or do I stop watering sometime?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Well, this would be the time of the year that
you want to begin lessening the water areas.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yes, definitely start to cut back the watering. I don't
think you need to stop watering yet. It's still not
quite cold enough to stop watering yet, but you can
decrease it. Usually a good telltale sign of stop watering
is when a lot of the leaves begin to turn.
Not not necessarily all of them need to fall off,
they just begin to turn, you know, that yellow color.

(06:42):
You start to lose a few Yeah, so you know
at that time, that's when you stop watering because you're
worried about rotting out. You you know, you you worried
about you know, keeping the soil too damp, you know,
kind of a thing. The other thing to think about
is rainfall. If you're in an area where you're gonna
get more, If you're going to get rain, you know,

(07:02):
then cut back watering in or stop completely, because then
it could supplement with that and you know, it's very
tough to.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Do to stop watering. It's like saying, you know what,
you can't feed your child for the next couple two
or three days. What do you mean, I gotta feed? Well, no, whatever,
this instance may be, whatever, just making up a hypothetical situation.
It's tough because you know, you know, plants are like
our kids. You know, plants are family. We want to
take care of them, and people the first thing they

(07:28):
want to do is water. Yeah, it's hard to cut
back on watering if you're not used to doing that.
Just like when I cut back my roses severely after
being at John's house. They they have never looked so good.
They are all in fro bloom. I used to have
a rose busher two that would give me maybe one
or two roses at a time. No I five or six.
So there's a case where I just had to take

(07:48):
the plunge and cut extremely, cut them back extremely, right
down to the bare bone.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, and that's good to do. And look at how
great they look next week's later.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It looks fantastic. So I know it's tough sometimes to
stop water, but in certain situations that's what you need
to do.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Carol's asking morning from Tucson, how long will my magnolias
last outside in pots?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Thanks from Carol, Tucson gets very cold in the wintertime
because you're desert, I would imagine exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, so I think that the in the magnolias are
actually very hearty annuals, so they can tolerate a little
bit of cold, but not a lot. So out there
in Tucson, I'd imagine you probably can keep them going
all the way through into January. Maybe around February they'll stop.
They'll start to get burned a little bit, you know,
and not looking good in pots. The one thing that

(08:40):
you know regarding keeping them in pots is as they
get more established, I don't know how how long they've
been in this pot, Carol. Is the idea, like what
we talked about with watering, is you don't have to
water them a lot. If they're well established in pots,
you know, you're maybe looking at like a once a week,
once twice a week watering there, and that help kind

(09:01):
of keep them lasting longer because if you overwater and
it's cold now, it's going to shorten the life of
the plant. But what about drainage, Well, yeah, you know,
and you should be using potting soil and make sure
the pot has drainage. But you know, so I would
say you're probably looking all the way until January February,
you know, getting some good Magnolia's flowers, and then probably

(09:23):
at that point in time it's going to get too
cold and then it'll stop, Okay, So then you just
pull them out and then you can start over with
something fresh. I mean out there, you know, you can
go pansies, you know, you know viola. You know what
else is happening in the wintertime, snap dragons, you know,
a lot of other fun plants for sure.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
So we got about a minute until our first break
anybody else, So we need to address.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
H No, I think we've answered so far the questions
at this moment.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, so keep the questions comments coming. We are we
are here at Tiger's house in San Diego. And again
I know where we talk about how cold it is.
It's about let's see, you know what, let's see what
the watch says.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh what does the watch say?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Watch says fifty three degrees fifty three fifty three And
seen that when we have you know, I got a
jacket on, you gonna sweater on. So that said, Hey,
by the way, the newsletter we should read the Quart
of the week.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Do we have time before the breaker, We're gonna we'll
do it after I get already.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
We're going to take our first break for our friends
on BIS Talk Radio. We appreciate you joining us wherever
you are, however you're listening to us here on Guard
in America. I'm Brian Main along with Tiger Palafox John
Is in Texas. Gonna take that break for BIS talk Radio.
Back after these messages and a big thank you to Fertilum,
our major sponsor here on Guard in America. Okay, welcome
back Facebook Live Biz Talk Radio. Appreciate you being along

(10:39):
for the ride this morning on Garden America. Brian Maine,
Tiger Palafox, John Is in Texas. Next weekend is the
Rose Auction here in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, we're gonna try to do it. I'm going to
try to do a live broadcast from the Rose Auctions
on Saturday. Can on Saturday. We'll try to do that
for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So the Quart of the week, you've got the Yeah,
you've got the newsletter up on your phone and go ahead.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Tiger Gardening simply does not allow one to be mentally
old because too many hopes and dreams are yet to
be realized. And that's by Alan Armitage, Armitage, right, armitage.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
And it makes sense obviously, right.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, you know, I mean anytime that you can just
keep what wakes you up in the morning, you know exactly, motivation, motivation,
and so gardening there's always something to do. You're never done,
you know that. You know, whether you work. You could
work eighteen hours in the garden one day. The next

(11:36):
day you can wake up and there's still something to
do and you can look at that and be like, oh,
that's a daunting task. But a real gardener just understands
that and embraces it. And that's why you wake up
the next day and just keep going.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Nature, the good Lord will always give you something to do, exactly,
especially when it comes to gardening. Yeah, so that that
is definitely true. Okay, So since you do a lot
of landscaping, Tiger, that's what you do.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Here we are getting into the winter, the fall months
here in southern California. Yeah, things are changing. What changes
for you in your job when it comes to landscaping?
What can you do or not do this time of year.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
So you know, when we started the show, we kind
of hinted on the watering. I know I've addressed this
a few times, so I'll just do real quick. But
people don't understand it's not just the temperatures that affect
watering on plants or how the plants need watering, And
it's also the daylight hours, so meaning there's a lot
less daylight hours now, which means there's a lot less

(12:34):
evaporation and which means there's a lot less growth happening
in plants, so therefore the plant requires less water. Okay.
Second thing also this time of year is that the
humidity in the air is going to stay more, so
we have less dry air, so that means again a
lot less evaporation and a lot less need to water.

(12:57):
So even though it's still warm where you're at, maybe
it's still means that you you have to cut back
water because now's the time here when people begin to
overwater their plants a lot. So and that goes for lawns, succulents,
California natives, all of that stuff. If you if you're
having the same watering schedule now that you had in July,

(13:22):
August September. You need to revalue, you need to reevaluate it,
and you need to probably cut it by about twenty
to maybe thirty percent. So if you were watering three
days a week, water two days a week, if you're
watering for you know, twenty minutes, begin to water for
you know, fifteen minutes or something like that.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, now here's the next question. So I come to
you because I want you to combine and do some
landscaping for me. And we're going to have a consultation. Yes,
and I'm going to tell you that I want this
and it's it's let's say it's November. Yes, let's say
it's the next month from where we are now, November December,
and we're talking San Diego now. So I want to
establish that, and I say, here's what I want. Tiger,
have done some research. I want these plants. They want

(14:00):
these plants. You know what, And you say, I, I
can't plant these now this time of year.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
That does that play a role in terms of what
you can and can't do seasonally.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Sometimes in terms of availability, you know. So for instance,
we talk about roses a lot during the program, and
you know, there are times Yere where just a lot
of varieties of roses are just not available. Meaning you know,
you can tell me I want to find this rose,
and because it's this certain time in the year, all
the roses are sold out. They haven't released the other
varieties yet, I just can't find it. So sometimes seasonally

(14:35):
I can't find plants. I'll tell you. You know, though, if
the plant is available twelve months out of the year,
we can plant it, but it might not do anything right,
like meaning like if you don't mean to plant an
apple tree in January, it's going to be a bare
root stick. But I'll plant it and it'll sit there
for three months before it grows.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Does that mean that you can plant Usa? I'm just
I'm trying to think of of deciduous plants so on
and so forth.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, we talked about plumerias exactly, So I'm gonna have it.
It's just gonna be sticks and it's gonna sit there
for sticks, which is not a bad thing. I mean,
it's great to plant things when they're dormant. That's that's
why we do bear root. That's why we we'd embrace
that idea, but don't expect it like some people will
will redo their landscape and their their landscape is very

(15:21):
uh you know, seasonal in the spring, and we're planting
it in the wintertime. There's a lot of plants that
don't look good. They we're still gonna plant them. There's
still viable plants are great plants, they just don't look
that great.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
They shouldn't look good.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well. Yeah, And so people get frustrated because they're like, oh,
I wanted this to be pretty. It's like, well, if
you wanted to be pretty, you'd have to do it
in spring.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That okay, See that was my My basic question is
then you need to wait. Yeah, you know, if you
wanted to look you know all you know, blooming and
flowers and colors, we need to wait. But you know what,
I would rather uh follow your advice in terms of
planting in the wintertime or the fall. That's the best
time and let things grow because things as the as

(16:00):
the homeowner, you're actually seeing it come to fruition.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, and it gets established easier, there's less stress, less investment,
all of that. I do want to keep talking on
this subject, but we do have a thing that came
in So Carla wrote, my family took me to the
San Diego Zoo yesterday to go on the botanical bus
tour to and see the Orchid Greenhouse, which is only

(16:25):
open a couple times a month, and shop at the
plant sale. Lots of fun. Now it's funny because people
don't realize this, but the San Diego Zoo is just
as much a botanical wonder as it is animals. And
a lot of people do go there to look at
the plants because they do a fabulous job with the

(16:47):
you know, collection of plants that they have. They they
tag them and label them so you can know what
they are a specific thing. Carl, I don't know if
you knew this about the Orchid Greenhouse though. The Orchid
Greenhouse is also a a location where when the Border

(17:08):
Patrol or the agg Department gets illegal orchids confiscates them,
they bring them there.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And and then because you know, I mean it's a
trusted facility, you know, you know, they you know, they
don't just want to trash. Some of these are the
very rare specimens. So then it's the San Diego Zoo's
job to identify see what they need to do. Sometimes
they distribute them to other you know, botanical gardens depending
on their their rarity and everything else like that. Sometimes

(17:37):
they just release them, you know, they make sure that
they've quarantined them for a period of time and then
released them. Sometimes they dispose of them if they're not
that you know, unique or anything like that. But so
you can see some really unique stuff there at that
orchid garden because they get in stuff because you know,
being here at a border city, there's a lot of

(17:58):
and people think, oh, it's just drugs or people or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Plants.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Sure, they bring in plants illegally.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Exotic birds, I mean exactly right. If it's got if
it's got a value to it.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
They'll bring it in absolutely. And so this Inego Zoo
is one of the places that they bring that stuff in.
And so you can see some really unique stuff there sometimes.
And it's a great opportunity. And like she said, it's
only opening like once a month, So if you get
the opportunity to go when it's open, it's a lot
of fun because you know you're gonna see stuff there
that you won't see anywhere in the United States. Sometimes.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
So with what I took home last week from you
when you did, oh the organ the new organ when
am I going to see growth and the fact.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
That it's not until spring?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Right, And and here's my next question, is it's uh
it's in a pot as opposed to like not eating
a host and being put someplace else. Is that because
of the species?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yes? Yeah, different ones, you know, some require bark and soil,
some require you know, the just air plans diff embakia, right,
that was the one, Yeah you got, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
We're gonna take a quick break here.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
All right, more questions, more questions.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
And I've got questions too, So it's gonna be a
lot of fun here on Guard in America along with
Tiger Palafox. Thank you for joining us. I'm Brian Maine.
We're gonna take a break for BIS Talk Radio back
after these messages on Guard in America. Stay with us. Okay,
we are back live from Tiger's backyard, Tiger's patio here. Uh,
those that can see the background, beautiful day. Sun is
coming up even though it's a bit cool, probably mid

(19:29):
to high fifties right now. We're supposed to get into
the low eighties today. So that said, a fun day
is uh in store for all of us here in
San Diego. And the questions keep coming. The word that
I couldn't think of during the break.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Epiphy is a plant that's epiphetic, which you know does
not require it's a host.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
It could be a tree, Yeah, it could be someplace
to support it. Yeah, which which my species is different.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, exactly. Leonore Plumerias have small root systems. Yes, you
know what's crazy. Leonora is small and shallow. Because it's
amazing because there was a property I went to that
had a plummerea that was about ten feet tall, maybe

(20:15):
about eight or nine feet wide, just beautiful specimen plumeria.
It was very well established. It was a good it
was a good plant. It blew over in a windstorm,
and you know, we went out and we we staked
it up and it was it was in the ground,
thank you. And and we staked it up and we
took off some of the weight and there was not

(20:39):
a lot of roots system in there. And when we
stood it up and secured it, the plants still thrived.
It did just fine.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
There.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
The word I would say that they're hearty because a
lot of what they need is within the stems of
the plant. That's why they don't have a big roots
is because they don't need those tap roots, they don't
need that massive root system to support it. They have
what they need in the plant itself. So therefore, that's

(21:10):
why when you can take a cutting and just drop
it in the soil, it'll begin to grow because everything
it needs is in that stem and then it just
goes from there.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Sounds like a cactus or a succulent.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Very similar. Yeah yeah, so so yeah, so, you know,
And that's one of the problems though with Plumere's is
the cold weather is the reason why they affects them
so much. They have so much water in them that
when that freezes, that's what damages the plant.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
And so by watering when you shouldn't water this time
of the year, you're over watering because it already has
within it what it needs in terms of watering.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Exactly, okay, exactly. And also you know the idea that
you're maybe forcing some growth when it shouldn't be. You know,
you just don't want to be rotting out that root system.
Let's see here, John did a grit job with the
newsletter Leonor Your rose is beautiful, Lisa's live oak is

(22:06):
so nice and stately, Kevin's blooming bond's eye is adorable. Guys, Yeah, good,
good photos, good photos. Great, thanks for sharing them. Continue
sharing the photos.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Please those photos go to John at Gardeniamerica dot com.
And yes, you too could appear in the newsletter. At
least your picture or your plant could appear in the newsletter.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Kevin asked when's the best time to take cuttings and
propagate plumerius. So actually, we're, you know, we're in the
middle of that right now. So you know, taking cuttings,
you know, you're you're you're actually kind of like wrapping
up the time of year to do that, because you know,
if you take a cutting in the wintertime, you know,
most people saying, oh that's the best time of you

(22:47):
would take a cutting, but then you know, it sits
and you run the risk of rotting it out. So
you know, we're wrapping up the time of year where
to take cuttings because a lot of times these plumers
are just going to go dorm it. So the next
best time, Kevin, is going to be late summer. That's
the best time to kind of take cuttings. Root the
plumme area, let it grow, let it winter then and

(23:08):
then the next spring, you'll get another.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
So he's about a year away from that late summer.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, especially especially in quarterly in Idaho.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
And we talked about the quart of the week that
we had in terms of always something to do. And
I think one of the biggest things we should all
remember when it comes to gardening too is patients. Oh, definitely,
because I know we all want it to bloom, and
we all want it right now, and that's not always
the case. You got to be patient.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah. I'm wondering if any of our listeners out there
are actually harvest seeds for growing, because that's a whole
nother level of gardening, right where you have a plant,
you have a flower, you harvest the seeds, you store
the seeds, you plant the seeds, and you start over again.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I think that used to be more prevalent than it
is today. I have no figures to back me up
for statistics, but that seems Does that seem old fashioned
to you? Does it seem kind of like old school?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Oh? It definitely seems old fashioned, old school to me.
And and I really think the only reason why anybody
would do it nowadays is either because it's the hobby,
it's what they do and it's fun or that plant
is so rare or unique that you can't find it elsewhere,
and that's why they propagate it that way, because you know,
it might be a variety of of of salvia or

(24:21):
you know, another annual flower that they can't find, and
so therefore they want to do it. Some people do
it with their tomatoes, you know. And so some people
do it with their tomatoes and you know, different vegetables
because they feel like, oh, that's the only way I'm
going to get that vegetable again.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, you know, because I suld find it to make
sure that I have it. Yeah, it's like going to Costco.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I gotta buy a case of everything just in case.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah exactly. All right, lots of good chatter on the
on the program. Thank you very much for sharing. So
let's talk a little bit about the auction for next week.
How much time do we have before our next bro.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
We got about five minutes. We're looking good. Five minutes
is a long time in media.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So if you're in southern California and you have the opportunity,
we're going to be an ocean side next weekend. If
you go to the California Coastal Coastal Roads Society website
which California Coastal cc RS dot org.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You can just google Coastal you know, Coastal Road Society.
It'll come up and it's gonna be I don't know
the name of the place. I just know it's called
the Senior Center.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, it's up there in Ocean Side at they developed
this whole area where they have like sports complex and
the stadium. Front Wave Arena is up there.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
And is that where we were two years ago with
Marine Ross Yeah? Same place? Yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
So anyways, on Saturday is a great opportunity to visit
and listen to some great speakers, some expert on roses,
on cultivating them, on growing them, on you know, just
general Rose history and all of that.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Are those roses on display on Saturday in case you
wanted to sort of, you know, take a peek and
find out what you might want to bid on the
next day.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't know if they're going to be on display.
I don't think they're on display. I think they're having
you know, part of the Rose Show and all of
that on Saturday. But Saturday is supposed to be more
informative so if you're very interested in roses and like
I said, cultures talk how you know, history, that's going
to be a great thing. And then on Sunday is
the actual auction.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Because I do know that that when we do the
auction on Sunday, probably ninety percent of the people, if
not all of them, they already already know what they're
going to bid on.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
They oh, well, the list is on.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
The list is there.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
The list is online, so you can start looking at
what roses are available, and you can start seeing what
you know piece your interest for sure, because for those
people that haven't heard us talk about this before, this
is an opportunity to get maybe uh, one of a
kind rows, rare roses, you know. The whole point of

(27:09):
this whole group save roses, and so you know you
might have, you know, one of three roses in the world,
and the the idea is to preserve and you know,
continue the legacy of these certain roses. A lot of
roses have really neat stories behind them, which is really

(27:30):
fun to have a rose in your garden because it
has a unique story. Sometimes people just really like the flower,
you know, sometimes people just like the name. There's all
kinds of reasons why you would want a rose, and
you know, I mean, you know, you can get some
for twenty dollars and then some of our dollars.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And also it's supply and demand, meaning that you might
be there bidding against four or five people or even
one other person that wants that rose, and that's what
obviously drives the bidding up.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah. Yeah, and so so definitely if you're in the
southern California area or you know, like I see, like
I say, you can go online and you could bid
on roses right now online too.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
And be a part of the California Coastal Roads Society.
That's what you want to google.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, and thanks Carlett for posting. C c RS auction
dot com is the website to go to for the auction.
I will say. The other thing to know is that
all the money that is raised at this auction goes
towards preserving these plants. So it goes towards you know,

(28:38):
botanical gardens. It goes towards preservation propagation of these plants
to be able to kind of perpetuate them and keep
them going. So you're you're, you're your money is going
towards it's a cost.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
As they say, win win, everybody wins on this one. Yeah, Okay,
we've got about let's see we got about it about
a minute.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Go ahead, okay, switch h maybe well I'll answer the
I'll ask the question, then we'll answer it. We get back.
I have mums planted in the yard and bought on
and brought on one of those big pots of mums.
Do I cut them back in order to keep them
from getting leggy? This is from Joyce and Mum's mum
care is a great question. When we get back from

(29:15):
the break, I will address mom care.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
All right, how about that mumcare with Tiger when we
get back Facebook Live Biz Talk Radio syndicated nationally here
Garden America. I'm Brian Main, Tiger, Pella Fox again Johnson, Texas.
So we're going to take that break and back and
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(29:41):
here who support Garden America. Now, just prior to the break,
we were talking mums. But say now we're really going
to get into mums. Not your mum, not your mum.
Not mummy is mum.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
The word mum is the word, right, But mum's chrysanthemum. Okay,
you know, very very popular right now in the fall.
This is the time of year. You see them in
and you know, the shopping centers, you see them in
all the garden centers. And what you're seeing right now
are the very small button mums, which and the reason
why you see them now is because they're very early.
They're a little bit more heat tolerant for southern California

(30:12):
where we kind of grow most of this stuff. And
so one thing to do is deadhead. You know what
deadhead is. And I'm not talking about I'm not talking
about Jerry. I'm not talking about Jerry and Jerry.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
No dead heading would be just I chop it right
off the top, lop their head off.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
So you know, one of the problems with mums is
that they're flowers. When they become spent, they hold onto
the plant. They don't let go. They don't just fall off.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
You need to help them fall off.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
You need to help them fall so that way you
get new flowers if you leave those old flowers on.
You won't get new flowers, the buds will just stay
right there, they won't come out, and then you'll just
be frustrated because it looks like a dead plant.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
So what happens to those that are growing in the
wild where nobody's going to take care of them?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So this button mum that we're talking about first off,
is the biggest culprit of it all because the other
mums that are out there, the other chrysanthemums, they actually
kind of clean themselves, they do. The ones with the
bigger flowers, they do kind of fall off and they
kind of get new flowers and they kind of grow.
But we're so you know, invested in this button mum

(31:17):
right now because they're so early because right because you know,
in theory, right now is the time of year that
you want to see mums. The other mums that get
the larger chrysanda bone flowers, those aren't gonna happen for
another month or two, so you almost lose you almost
missed the window. And to maximize it, they try to
get these early flowering plants. So those bigger mums are
much better to have because number one, you're gonna have

(31:39):
them in November December. I think they're prettier and they
have better looking flowers, and they kind of self clean
a little bit better than these button mons. So but
to what you have now, dead heading. Dead heading is
simply snipping off about an inch or so of that flower,
so so not just sometimes people just pull off the

(32:01):
the the flower, which is fine to do too. But
if you can snip it off, you'll you'll allow that
new bud to come up, It'll take its place. You'll
get another blooming cycle of flowers, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
And go from That's a little more drastic, right, Sometimes
you can damage it, yeah, or regrowth yeah okay.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, but I mean, let's be real. Some of these
mums are just covered with hundreds and hundreds of blooms,
so so sometimes people just throw them out and then.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Stuff in a weird comparison leaving hips on roses.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it's it's the end,
just by the way it looks. Yeah, okay, so you know,
but I will say that if you do do that
and you fertilize, you'll get more bloom cycles out of
that mum, which is really nice. But it's it's a
very there's a lot of investment in doing it. I
will say though, that if you go to a nursery,

(32:53):
you know, maybe next month you'll see some of the
other rights of mums in stock, which are great to have,
are much better.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I mean, if you don't want to go through all that,
then then the button mom is safe to call it
a button. Yeah, that's not what you want. No, unless
you're going to invest some time and really want to
do that.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
They're really just a show piece. They really are just
something you buy to put on your porch table, you know,
whatever it is. It's all just to have it for
like that week or two and you know, and then
it kind of like goes away. But you know, it's
what it is. It's the time of year, right, you know.
But there's a lot better options out there, and and

(33:32):
there's a lot better plants. I mean there's right now,
you know, somebody just mentioned marygold colenngula, there's all you
know coal. Yes, there's a lot of other wonderful fall
plants ipomea that give you long lasting foliage and color
and just look better than the mom. But you know,
I understand that some people want the mummy.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
And how many people in your landscaping experience. Say I
want color and I want something that's going to be
beautiful twelve months out of the year.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh that's yeah, right, that's where they go into the
fake plant area, right exactly. Okay, let's see here. Let's
see when we moved recently. I lost. I lost several plants,
including a rose. I planned a toss. Then I noticed
green growth on it and a beautiful flower. Would it

(34:23):
be okay to move it out of the pot to
a better pot?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Now, well, what location? Where are we?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it's a great question. But you know, I will
say though that if you you really want to make
sure that it's stable before you do anything, right, Like
it's a it's all just because it put out new
growth in a flower doesn't mean that it's it's stable. Yet.
What happened was just the moving shocked the plant. You know,
maybe maybe it got underwatered for a period of time.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It needs to recover.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
It needs to recovery, and you can't just go like
boom boom, boom, next, next, next, Yeah, because that's just
gonna perpetuate the stress. So so you know, Veronica asked
that question, and I would say I I would wait
Veronica I mean, it's gonna be going dormant here in
another month or two. I would just wait till it
goes fully dormant again and then do the transplanting, just

(35:14):
so that way there's even less ripe. Because what happens,
what's gonna happen right now, is say you did move
it right now, depending on where you're at, it could
start to grow again, and we don't want it to
You don't want it to grow. So exactly, if you
wait till it's ready to be dormant, then you'll be fine.
And just just just wait a few months.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Sometimes you need to stick to the plant schedule. Yeah,
they have their own schedule. And the more you understand that,
the better off you're going to be, and the more
successful you'll be. You got a couple of minutes until
the break.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Man. They're going so fast.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Well, that's good, we like it.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Let's see here. Speaking of music trivia, Kevin, all right, Kevin, No,
he's getting us off topic. Unlet's see what he says though.
Speaking of music trivia, I'll bet there are more songs
about roses than any other item except maybe love or whiskey.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Well, there's there's the yellow rose. Of Texas.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
There's uh him started.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Paul McCartney had an album years ago, Red Roast Speedway,
Guns and Roses, Stop and Smell the Roses by Mac Davis.
You said guns and roses. The whole band dedicated to roses. Yeah,
that's interesting. Yeah, well roses are what do we say,
the two most popular roses. Yeah, roses and tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah. I think everywhere in the world you'll see roses
and tomatoes whenever you look.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
At I never promised you a rose garden.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
It was that.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
That was Lynn Anderson. Yeah, Glyn Anderson never promised you
a rose garden.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's a good Yeah, yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Someone will correct me by I think so. Yeah again, roses.
Everything's coming up roses right. That was Kate Smith years ago.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
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(37:17):
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It's one long, continuous show. I did a quick fact

(37:39):
check during the break. Kevin, Yes, Lynn Anderson did Rose Garden.
I had to be sure. So many songs in my head,
but that was Lynn Anderson never promised you a rose Garden.
It's one of those songs that when you hear you go, oh,
I know this song. Yeah, you know, sometimes you don't recognize.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
The time or the artist.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, but it's one of those songs that have been
around for has been around for years and years.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, it's and I think Kevin is right. I think
that probably roses are definitely the number one plant for music, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Because you give roses for romance, you give roses for
maybe at a funeral or roses. Roses can be used
for almost any occasion.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Oh yeah, definitely. And there's that there's that whole uh
color scheme. Yes, you know you give a yellow rose
for this, a white rose for this, a red rose
for this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
By the way, I speaking of how prolific my roses
are in terms of bloom. So yesterday trimmed off a
lemon spice. Okay, one of the roses. John, did he
give it to you a couple of years ago?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
He gave gave you? No, not me?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
What a nice aroma? Really lemon spice. Good fragrance, Yes,
very good fragrance.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
See, that's that's probably. You know, it's funny because you
know I've got Chrysolin Perial orange juice.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
How many have a gold Marie?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
You know Chrysler Imperial has a fragrance? They I think
they all have fragrance. If I was to collect roses,
if that was my thing, I would collect purely for fragrance.
Would I would only want roses with a very strong
or unique fragrance.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
You know what's interesting about roses to the lay person,
what's the first thing they do?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Smell it?

Speaker 1 (39:16):
They smell it and they don't really me. I guess
they'd look at it first.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
But I mean some.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
People think that all roses have a fragrance, right, No,
they don't. In fact, there might be more that don't.
I don't know what the statistics are on that. John
could tell us, but I have.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I think people mostly smell flowers in generally. Yeah that's true, right,
Like when you walk up to something, don't you just
smell it and see if it does have a fragrance
at all?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
So I have the lemon spice and Pope John Paul Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Good ones?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Oh huge?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah so yeah. But smelling plants, you know, it's always
you see a flower, you walk up to it, you
smell it. Oh that one doesn't have his a fragrance,
but it's pretty so I like it. But uh, fragrance.
That's why I like Plumerius. They all have fragrance, Yeah,
they all do. You know, some aere stronger than others too,
but they all have fragrance. So I like that. All right,

(40:07):
are we caught up? Let me check.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
We need to come on questions comments though? Is come
on Facebook? Yeah, hit us with your best shot.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Oh, somebody Carla wrote paper roses by Marie Aus.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's true, you know what, Carla very good paper roses.
Yeah it's not they're not real roses, but it's a
song about about roses and the boy. She did that
when she was like twelve or thirteen too. Oh wow,
long time yeah, long time ago.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Somebody mentioned Lyila earlier in the show, and I don't
see her on the program Lila at the moment. But
we were just out of her yard this week and
Poway and we planned she was looking for a brachyo
kai in discolor, so we found one of those for her,
a great specimen, and then we uh filled her raised

(40:57):
garden beds with some soil so she can get cracking
on her on her winter veggies. So look forward to
seeing some picks from her, hopefully pretty soon, because definitely
exactly future news letter symbols. Rio samba rose, Lisa Martin

(41:20):
scent is the first consideration. Then color for me, and
then the perfume industry. Are roses used for the perfume industry?
Are roses used, Kevin for the perfume industry? Are roses
used they? I would say yes, I think yes. There
There are actually some roses that have been bred specifically

(41:43):
for the perfume industry, I will say that that is
a little bit of a thing that's fallen off. You know,
they've created synthetic fragrances and they can do whatever they
want with those. Where yeah, where you know, it's you know,
investing in creating a plant, growing a plant, taking care

(42:05):
of a plant. It's much easier to create some synthetic No,
I will say for the for the high end perfumes, yes,
they still use a lot of the old methods and
that's why they that's high end, you know, but I
would say that it's it's you know, not not readily

(42:26):
used as as you would think it was anymore. But
but that's where they get I think a lot of
inspiration from, you know, like they'll they'll smell of and
try to replicate that. Then they'll try to replicate it
in the future synthetically people.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
With lab coats on, you know, beakers and the lab
and you know those.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
People smoke coming out of the scheme. You know, se
they got they got little centrifuges.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Running bubbles coming up.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
You get the picture, Yeah, exactly. You know it's funny.
You know, we couldn't do the show last.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Week, but we were all set up and ready to go.
But we did find out from the engineer at the
studio why that's the case. Yeah, and it has to
do with changing the Wi Fi more security measures, actually
dialing down, rottling down, Yeah, what we used to be
capable of. So at least we get an answer on

(43:23):
that and we'll see how we can rectify that at
some point.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
But you know, one of the topics that we were
going to hit on last week is one hit Wonders,
and I really do feel I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna expand on this because I really do feel it's
important for John to be here when we do this
topic of one hit wonders. But you know, we're talking
about plants and why why you would be attracted to

(43:48):
it right now that you know, we're talking about the roses,
the flower, the fragrance, different things like that, colors and things.
And I would say that that's what drives a lot
of the one hit wonder plants, is that it's it's
the flower that it creates is unique and different, and
I think that that then creates that like drive why

(44:09):
somebody's got to have it?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I want it because they're not readily available.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yes, and then and then you know, it kind of
goes away with some time, and then the next plant
comes along.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
It's like it's like, look what I have. Oh where'd
you get it? I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, I mean it's it's amazing to kind of see
the plants that kind of come and go through the years,
especially when it comes to annual flowers. Yes, you know,
and and I look forward to seeing what's coming out
next because there's always something new. I mean, you know,
pansies and petunias, and then you know there was the

(44:45):
copa and scobola and nemesia and all these wonderful perennial
you know, annual flowers that the growers invest and they
create and then they release them and we see them
in the garden centers, and then they kind of do
the new thing. But I do wish they would make
more with fragrance, because that's the problem. I don't there's

(45:06):
not a lot of like annuals that have a lot
of fragrance. I liked sweet to listen, right, let's see here.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
You got a couple of minutes before the break.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Veronica agrees, no roses in my garden that do not
have a great sense. My favorite mister Lincoln and double delight.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, mister Lincoln is an incredibly sweet smelling just just
the nicest fragrance.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, yeah, mister Lincoln is a good red red red yeah,
good red rose too. Overall like it's a very good.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Is a fourth of July rose?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yes, okay, yeah, it's uh, it's I believe it's white
and red, which would make sense. And I think it's
a climber. Also, if I remember quickly, Tanya wrote our
but copa annuals and yes, but Copa is an annual
in some areas. For us in southern California, we do
kind of kind of consider it a little bit of
a perennial, you know. But it's that white flowering trailing plant.

(46:09):
They also find it in like a bluish and purple.
It's wonderful for putting into your potted plants or hanging
baskets because it cascades and trails and it blooms a lot.
You know, it's always in bloom, which is really nice,
which you know, since we're talking about Pocopa right now, Tanya,
I do want to you know, people are getting into
this time of year where it's the fall. We talked

(46:30):
about the mums and pots combinations. One of the best
combinations this time of year for a pot is going
to be some kind of grass, you know, so you know,
some kind of grass, feather, grass, la mandra, uh, something
like that, and then a filler plant like a colius
or some kind of blooming plant. And then a trailing
or cascading plant like Bacopa scavola dichondra off the side

(46:55):
of the pot. Hypomea is another one. So yeah, I'm
trying to do all my name dropping. But do you
remember what we call that combination of do we do?
You remember the not the acronym, but you know it's
a we do our thriller, which is our vertical, you know,
stable plant, and then we do our filler, okay, which

(47:16):
is like the metill, and then we do our spiller.
So it's thriller, thriller, filler, spiller, yep. And you know,
and it probably is. We got to take a break,
you know, uh commercial on the late night TV.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
We'll leave you on that note, quick break Facebook live
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Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah yeah, and uh, moving on to another question, Paula wrote,
I want a listen that receeds and and a lissam
is a plant that we used to be able to
buyd It receded every rewear all over the place. And
that's one of the reasons why a lot of growers
moved away from that variety of a lissum is because
somebody planted it and then it just started coming up

(48:09):
all over their yard. So I will say Paula that
if you buy a lissum in color packs from the
garden center, there's a good chance that that's a variety
that is kind of like sterile and it's not going
to reced that much. But if you go online companies
like Botanical Interest Ferry Morris, they are going to have
varieties of a lissm that will recede. And those are

(48:32):
the varieties that you want to get because those are
the ones that are gonna come back you after year.
They're going to pop up throughout your garden come up
by themselves. So that's the way you have to buy
that variety of a lissum is reseeding. Aalism is buy
it from a seed company. Whether it's in the garden
center or you find it online. They do still sell it,

(48:53):
but they just don't if you buy it in color packs,
it's usually not going to be that variety anymore. Okay.
Miniature houseplants as gifts which are best and easiest to
care for, hardiestuff uh Clancho, fern, violet, cycloman, celanga, celangenella,

(49:15):
and something called splash. That's the kind of polkadot plant. Okay,
the miniature house plants that are easiest to care for. Uh,
Colancho is a very easy one. I would say that calanchoe, calancho. Ferns,
some are easy, some are very difficult. Do you have
any ferns? No, no, no, no, Some are very difficult

(49:37):
to grow. Violet's probably one of the hardest, you know,
because of the watering cyclemen very seasonal and they don't
do well as hospitals. That's not a that is you know,
that is not a house plant, So cycleman, I would
say no, Uh, celanganella and something called the splash. Uh.
Those are easy because it's just a matter of keeping
them damp, not like a wet a damp in a

(50:00):
well lit room and they'll grow easily. But miniature wise,
you know, the other thing that people can think of is,
you know, orchids. There's a lot of very miniatures. There's
a lot of miniature orchids that grow very easy and
inside because you know, they don't they just require a
humid environment. And then what else miniature wise, I'm trying

(50:24):
to think what I've had. Bromeliads. I don't know if
you call that miniature, but you know, bromeliads are very
easy too. Let's see here. I love my baby bunny bellies,
baby muddy.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Bellies, baby bunny bellies.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, hanging in a pot one and the nicest tiny blooms.
It also is a nice texture. It feels like a
soft like a soft bunny. So do you know what
that is? Baby bunny bellies. Let me show you a
picture because you'll recognize bunny bellies. Yeah, you'll recognize it
when I show you the picture.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
It sounds like a mouth exercise before you go on
the air. It's like rubber baby buggy bumpers.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
That did you do that so well? I don't think
I could do that.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Can you say the sheik six sheep is sick? No,
the Sheik's six sheep is sick. So getting back.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
You know you, John brought in a Tradis canty for
you last week, right. This one though, has like a
fuzzy and smaller, smaller leaf, so it's a little bit
more compact. And and those are a lot of fun
so it's a it's and it's kind of succulent, so
they're very easy to take care of.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
But what is it? Bunny belly, baby bunny bellies, baby
bunny bellies.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yes, yeah, so try saying that twelve times fast.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Uh baby bunny bellies. Okay, yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
We uh. Paula wrote we bought a six pack of
receding lissam last year and had none grow spread in
our two and a half acres. Yeah, like I say,
like I would say, even the ones that you buying
color packs, and they do say they're receeding, and they
will reced to some extent, but they're nothing like what
they used to John, John, I don't know if some

(52:09):
of the listeners have you remember this. When John first
got his house, he had a hydro seed his slopes
to retain them. And one of the seeds that was
in that hydro seed mix was a lissom. And for
years you would go out there to his proper, you
would see a lissm and you would see a lism
and you would see aism. And now when you go

(52:31):
out there, you just don't see it like it did
when it was first hydro seeded. And you know, so
you know, it's it's a tough thing. But you do
have to replant every few years some of the seed
because I don't think it naturalizes as much as we.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
You know, just plant it and forget it.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
It's yeah, but it's gonna be one of those plants
that also comes up where you don't want it when
you do actually want it.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Now, what you told me a few years ago that
that isaac had spread.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Oh what was it in the California poppies. You planted
them all in like one area. Oh but no, and
then we went across the canyon and spread them across
the canyon, but they never took off. I never are
disappointed in the California poppies that we planted.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I remember that yard as well.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah, I've invested hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Come up, or they come up when they die or
go away or what what.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
It just doesn't it doesn't come up. They come up,
and then they go away, but they don't come back
the next year like I want them to. I wish
they would come back the next year, easy, easier, Kevin wrote,
bonds I used to be a pop populous gift. But
how many of us left with little bonzeie pot with
little black hard rocks and no plants alive in it

(53:39):
after the plant died. Kevin, That's so true, because you
know what I mean. Bonzas are are not easy from
the standpoint of Usually it's some kind of like juniper
or small tree and finding that balance of water.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
That's what I remember is it is a challenge. A
small tree, yes, you know, very popular I think in
Asian communities, yes obviously.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, well you know, but it takes care and and
a lot of people get confused with care, with oh
the trimming and all of that, and it does require
some of that. I wouldn't even see say that's the
biggest care. It's the watering and fertilization because that root
system is so small and so tight that if you
do not fertilize correctly and you do not water correctly,

(54:21):
that plant will either die from overwater or die from underwater.
And fertilizer too, because it needs to it needs to
be supplemented because there's no there's no nutrients in that soil.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
That's all root is the special bond sie fertilizer or
just any commercial fertilizer.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I would say that there's any commercial fertilizer, but it's
deluded because you can't put strong right. You can't put
it strong, you'll burn the plant.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
And I would imagine you do really want organic and
not chemical in terms of the burning, right.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I mean, that's easier for you. It's easier, you know,
like you do run the risk of burning with chemical
fertilizer because you might not you might mix it too strong.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
And that's going to go right to the planet itself
as opposed to going into the soil of the rocks
or whatever you have it in terms of keeping it stable.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
But it's so true, or Kevin says, like people will
just have these little collections of bonds. I pots, yeah,
but no plans, and then little fishermen on the bridge,
on the bridge, on the little bridge, we've all seen exactly, Kevin,
you hit it right on the right on the.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
But that painted a good picture for all of us.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yeah, and Kevin wrote, I think or no. Lenor wrote, Kevin,
I think it's because we don't leave them outside. And
that is something true too. A lot of people put
their bonds eye plants inside on their coffee table, and
that is not the correct place to keep it. They
need to be outside under a porch protected, you know,
and you know that's where the ideal bonds I would be.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
And then somebody says, but how can I enjoy it?
I want it to be in the house.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
I need to see it.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
We're going to take a break. We're going to stay
on track here. Two more segments coming up, by the way,
case you're keeping track. Two more segments for a BizTalk
radio of course for Facebook Live. Glad you could join us.
Great questions everybody that's tuned in with questions and comments.
So again that John next week at the auction. John
this week is in Texas, and again it's Tiger myself
here on guard in America. I'm going to take a

(56:05):
break from BizTalk Radio back after these messages. Back from
the break, and yes, here we go. This is one
of our longer segments. Plenty of time for questions, comments,
and whatever else is on your mind.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
You know, one of the things that's also happening this
time of year we're talking about, you know, fall and
Halloween time, you know, is Halloween decorations go up in
the yard. And you know, when people put these decorations
up in the yard, sometimes they forget like, oh, I
have to trim my lawn or I have to cut
these plants and then these decorations. But it's kind of

(56:37):
cool though, because people people then let the plant grow
for a period time where they normally wouldn't right right
the law and grow. Yeah, and it's actually really really
healthy to kind of let these plants kind of do
their thing for a period of time without them being trimmed.
And one of the things that people tell me about
that that happens this time of year that they didn't reckon,

(56:59):
I realize is that a lot of their like hedge plants,
they will have a flower or they'll have a very
unique foliage on the new growth that they didn't recognize
because they were constantly pruning, constantly trimming. But until they
stopped pruning, it started trimming. Now they see the flower,
see the foliage. So you know, that is something that

(57:21):
I think is nice about, you know, allowing your garden
to just grow for a period of time. Yeah. So,
you know, even if you don't have decorations, just just
let it do its thing for a while. You can
always get out there and cut back later and trim
and you know, do that, but like let it grow,
see what it can do. Yeah, right, you know, and
and sometimes the plants are a lot healthier, they're more

(57:43):
resistant past, they're they're they're gonna you know, photosynthesize more
and better, and so just let them kind of do
their own thing. Yeah all right. Uh, Joyce got my
garden shed cleaned out while listening to us. All good
for her, you.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Know what, that's gonna feel good. That is very liberating,
right yeah, right, clean something, yacht, get rid of things,
so on and so forth.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Uh oh, I think Lyla is joining us, and she
wrote what veggies would you recommend planting? Now?

Speaker 1 (58:16):
So you know, just being her raised beds.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Now we're talking about her raised beds, so you know,
for for poway in that area right now, all the
leafy greens you can still grow. We're actually in the
best time of year to plant them because it's cooling
off and they really like the cool weather.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
So is the soil still warm rather warm or not well?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
And that's that is, you know, we're we're wrapping it up,
so the soil is dropping up, dropping down. So I
think you'll be okay. And you know, but let us
spinach charts, rugelah, all the leafy green stuff, you know, broccoli, cauliflower,
you know those crops you know out there as well.

(58:58):
You can still do some of the like the things
like the radishes, all the herbs, you know, very very easy.
The only thing you gotta be careful with on the
basil is the cool weather. But you know, in the
cilantro basil and cilantro get get really a bit by
cool weather, real real hard, so be careful with that,
you know. But then there's also some of the varieties
of the the pt and the beans and what else,

(59:24):
what else? What else can you do? Right now, I'm
trying to think of what would be fun Charred, you know,
Swiss charred. You know, they have one called bright Lights
is just such a showy plant. So you know, that's
always fun because it's got red and yellow and orange
and the stems, you know, which which is kind of
fun to kind of see that you know can grow that.

(59:47):
But then like you know, there's the purple broccoli, and
you know, there's a lot of fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
There's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, yeah, Carlo wrote because Joyce was cleaning out her shed. Wow,
I I feel guilty. I was just sipping on my coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Gee.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Well, it was just enjoying the show. And there's Joy's
working hard away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I wonder if Joyce has earbuds in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Yeah, she's just trucking along or speaker, just a big
speaker out there. Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
It is warming up, I can I can feel it now, right,
Yeah it is. It's gonna be a nice day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah, it supposed to be really nice today. It should
be you know, it's beautiful. Yeah exactly. So I'm gonna
be working in the art. I've got some trimming to do,
I've got some cleaning up to do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
You dedicated this day to what you're doing? Is it
all an all day garden things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
All day garden thing? Yeah? Really exactly So I'll be
doing some transplanting, doing some trimming, you know, just some
bushes to cut back. I've got an area where I've
got to modify some irrigation system to water a little
bit better. I'm going to adjust. I already turned off
my water from the rain, so I turned off all

(01:00:54):
my irrigation last week because of the rain. I'm not
going to turn it on quite yet. It's pretty damp,
so I'm gonna let it still dry out a little
bit more before.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
But at some point you turn it off for the
entire winter or not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yes, yes, I think last year I was able to
turn it off in November. I didn't turn it on
again until like April or man and again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
And that's obviously because even though you may not get
a lot of rain, or there's periods in between, the
soil stays moist, yeah, or the need it. Right for
the most.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Part, right, soil stays moist. Plants don't need it, you know.
And that's just just the cycle. That's just the cycle
of of what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
So what about your plumeria right here? It still looks
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah. Off to our right, you see, the leaves are
kind of starting to turn a little bit, but it's
still in bloom, still still looking pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
You know, it's interesting if you didn't know what time
of the year it was and you just went by
how the plummeria looked. Yeah, you can kind of guess,
you know what, what time of the year, what season
it is, Yes, just by looking at it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Know what it was exactly a year ago. I think
in October we were at the Plummeria you're showing Bibo
park mm hmm. Did a remote from there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Was that it was that in October? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I think so, Yeah, because we talked about that's the
plant sale, right, and I remember them talking about when
to stop watering as we got into the winter months.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah, Carolyn, I had good luck with camellia seeds. We
were talking about that a couple of shows ago and
she was talking about growing some camellia seeds. So she
says she has some good luck with it. So that's awesome. Kevin,
when he lived in Poway, arugula did fantastic. It took over, flowered,

(01:02:38):
seeded itself, and there were perpetual arugula growing like weeds.
I appreciated its verocity. Let's see Joyce was just listening
to them on her phone, but she forgot to let
her chickens out, So she's got to go and do that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Now, let the chickens. Maybe that's something we should do
each week. John and the chicken left the chickens out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Joy a little reminder will put an alarm on full
day of organic mulching today. So got some mulching going, a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Good day to do it. You know, it really is
a good day. It's gonna be warm, but not not ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Yeah, And you know, Kevin hit on a fun topic
too of arugula receding throughout the garden. People don't realize
that some of these, some of these edible plants are
actually really good ornamental plants or annuals that you can
just have And then how wonderful is it to walk
out in your garden right and just grab some and

(01:03:34):
eat it and have it be there and it's just
part of the yard. But it's edible too, So that's
kind of fun. That's a neat, neat concept.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
You know. When we had the when I had the
veggie what do we call it, veggie pod, the veggie pod,
and I had the cilantro and the various things. Let
us out there. You're right, just go out there and
pick it and here's your salad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah. Yeah, and and you know, so having those plants
in the landscape is part of the landscape is awesome
to do. And and sometimes you forget that they're there.
But you you walk out there, you're like, Oh, I'm
gonna make a salad today, or I'm gonna make this,
or I'm gonna get this. Yeah, it's good to do.
Let's see, we suddenly had a few cold nights down

(01:04:14):
in the low forties Lenoir. Yeah, and that'll really make
things change country Lenoir. Yeah right, I think that'll really
change things up for people. That's when you'll start to
see the leaves start to change on trees. You'll start,
like we said, see some of the foliage drop off.
And that's a really good sign that you need to
turn down your water. Turn off your water, decrease the

(01:04:35):
watering because now the plant just doesn't need as much
as it used to, for sure, So be careful with that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
How did you have hydrangers here?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I only have one in the fronts doing terribly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah, I had a terrible year with mine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
It never really blooms.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, mine was a watering issue. Hopefully next year'll be
better about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I mean, I mean if the leaves look good. And
then about two months ago started to see a little
little little blossom and it just never yeah, never came
to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Seue Miller, please talk about fruit tree care for winter,
especially citrus and peaches. When can we prune and shape peaches?
So how much time do we have for our next break? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
We got about a minute I think get started.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Yeah, So on the peaches, Sue, you know you can prune.
You know, next is you know when you know it's
already done fruiting, So you could prune now all the
way through into the winter time before it starts to
set the buds again. Look for the dead branches, look
for crossing branches, look for weak branches that you want
to shorten so that way they firm up and will

(01:05:45):
hold fruit better, you know, and you just want to
overall lace. There should be a good airflow and light
throughout the whole tree. So that's your pruning style for that.
And so again, now that it's done fruiting, you could
it now all the way through probably about January February
start to back off on the watering, don't fertilize. And

(01:06:07):
also now is going to be getting ready the time
of year when it loses all of its leave to
put your dormed oil, sprase your horticultural lime soul for
protecting its bugs and funguses.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
All right, break time here on Garden America. One more
segment coming up, and then we wrap things up. We
wrap things up already. Yeah, according to the clock, according
to the old format clock, so and the actual time clock.
Taking a break for BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. One
more segment coming up on your Saturday morning if you're
listening to us or watching us live here on Garden America. Okay,

(01:06:38):
BIS Talk Radio, final segment, Facebook Live. I guess technically,
final segment. So far, so good, Tiger, Yeah, yeah about
that actly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
So we talked about proo peachtree. Yes, when we were
coming back, Welcome back to the program Gardener America. Right,
big just buzzed right mind me it was a bat,
it was a hawk.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Well that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Then, but citrus so citrus care right now, it's critical
for you to really lace out those citruses to allow
for airflow as we get into this cooler time of year.
A lot of times what happens is the inner growth
of the citrus builds up. You get a lot of scale,
and then the scale turns into sooty mold and all

(01:07:21):
kinds of other problems. So lacing out that citrus, allow
for the airflow, allow for the light. Don't let the
weather affect it too much by allowing that deep dark
situation inside the tree. So again, looking for crossing branches
inside growth. Lace it out properly is what you need
to do for the citrus. Right now? What else? What

(01:07:44):
else we got? I thought I saw another question Paula
per Simon harvest and dehydrating just started. How fun? Yeah? Really,
Paula's Tanya wrote, Paula, mine are just turning orange. Tandy, Yeah,

(01:08:04):
John can Well, well, we'll we'll mention to John about
hydro seating. He should do a show. We'll do a
show on hydra seating, on how important that is for
your slopes. Uh, Carolyn, My guess is that these seeds
from rose colored plants that eventually become camellia trees. This year,
I'm hoping to get a white one. The original one

(01:08:24):
plants are on the north side. He's wall lemon tree
that is badly neglected. I've been thinning, but I also
want to top it. Is this a good time of year?
Yes it is. Uh, Yes, you can top it now, Veronica.
Regarding the lemon tree, you can trim it, like I
just said, lace it out, top it, really cut it

(01:08:47):
back right now. Especially with the lemon there they are
always they're what we call ever blooming, so there are
ever bearing, so they're always going to be fruiting cycle.
You're almost gonna never have a time when it's not fruiting.
So you can kind of just him as should be.
I will say you probably shouldn't trim more than about
twenty percent of the tree at a time, though, because
the one of them it's going to have is going

(01:09:07):
to react by shooting out these large branches, and you
don't want that to happen. That's a that's a stress
reaction to a tree. When you trim it hard, it
begins to shoot out all these branches.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
You know, I've seen throughout the county when the city
comes in to do trimming, and sometimes I've seen trees
that just look horrible. I mean, they've trimmed him back
so far. Yeah, on purpose, I imagine but is that good? Well,
like I said, it just reacts. The tree reacts.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
So people think, oh, I'm gonna bring it back hard
because I want to not have it grow back. But
it's almost like the opposite. It actually grows back even strong.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
It's protecting itself in a way, right, it's reacting to
It's what it's doing is going is a shock. Well
here here's what it is is imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Imagine you've got this base, you've got this root system,
You've got all this structure for a twenty foot tree. Okay,
well then you take it down to ten feet. Well,
it still has all the structure for too much structure
for the twenty foot tree. So that is forcing water,
forcing forcing nutrients into this tree. And so that's why

(01:10:19):
you get this super fast.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
It makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
So that's why we you know a lot of tree
care people will only take take off twenty maybe thirty
percent at a time. Is because if they do any
more than that, you're just gonna get a response that
is that is counter productive of what you're trying to do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Right exactly, Yeah, Carla Rokee, you did it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Congratulation guys, Carla, what do we have we have but
three minutes less.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
We have three minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah, and and so you know, we we got on,
we did a show, we answered questions for people. You know,
we we did it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
We did it. We're gonna they'll have to figure out
the studio based on what the engineer told us about
how they've changed their Wi Fi completely. And we had
a feeling last week or two weeks ago, a few
weeks ago something had changed in there and they put
in a lot of security measures. They've cut back on
the strength, so on and so forth. So yeah, but
so far here your backyard Tiger, you're all is good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Yeah, yeah, just just a little bit of trouble getting on.
But yeah, once we're here, we're here. And that's the
nice thing about it is that it didn't didn't drop
off yet and right now on the last.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
And it's interesting because sometimes, you know, we'll get on,
I'll say, Tiger, what did you do? He goes, I
don't know, and anything different. No, we're just on now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Sometimes it's a matter of plugging it back in or
turning it off and turning it on. Yeah, that sometimes
resets it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
All right, a couple of minutes to go here, any
last minute questions comments.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
As we know, everybody's just saw it saying great show.
A few so glad, great show, fun show. Guys. Look
forward to seeing some of our listeners next weekend at
the office.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
If you're in San Diego, please er the auction.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, so, you know, please check us out. We'll be there.
Say hi, have a great weekend. There's a lot to do.
It is fall, so a lot of fun stuff to
do right now. You know, get your fall decor, your
pumpkins all going, your corn stalks, get your scarecrows out there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
You know, the last couple of years, bought a pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
We didn't carve it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
We just leave it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Left it out in the front door. I think it
was there till March.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yeah. Just if you don't break it, it don't break it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
It's fine. Yeah, you know, but yeah, just a little
something that reminds you of what time of year it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Do you get trigger teators in your complex?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
No? Never, Okay, I mean it's been so long, you know.
I stopped trick or treating two years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Yeah, yeah, they get around.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I just finally said it's not worth it. Point. I
see a couple of big spiders at here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Yeah, a little bit of a little bit of Halloween decor,
you know, getting going.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
You know, some parts of the world there's that that
you know, you can settle them up. Yeah, So anything
else next Okay, So next week you're gonna you're gonna
do like a quasi mini show from the auction. Yeah,
because just to come on for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna try to do you know, our our
eight o'clock you know live. I can't promise we're gonna
do a full show, but if you join us for
the eight oh six time, we'll be live. We'll be
talking about what's happening at the show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Any auction, it's not our Wi fi either. Is there
a WiFi? No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
So uh and it might be just something I connect
to via my hotspot. So that's why we don't want
to do a full full show promise you a full
full show, but we definitely try to show off some
of the things that are happening at the auction and
go from there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Well, thank you so much, each and every one of
you Facebook live, those on biz Talk Radio. Thank you
for hanging in there with us, for being a big
part of our show for all these years. And we
hope you have a good rest of your weekend, a
great week auction next weekend. John is back so again
for the entire crew. John Beg, NASCAR, Tucket, Pella Fox.
I'm Brian Maine. Thank you once again for tuning in
to Guard in America and we'll do it again next

(01:14:01):
week and of course the week after here on Guard
in America. Take care,

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