Live From Tiger's Backyard Garden - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [9.13.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome once again, we made it. We're on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're broadcasting live from Tiger's house in San Diego, California.
By the way, this is Garden America. Sometimes we do
an intro where we come back from a break and
we fail to mention for those that are that are
new to the show or what's going on, that we
are We are Garden America. So John, that sounds good.
John's got the audio turned up on his phone. We
are ready to go.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
That's how I know everything is good.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's good, exactly. Yes, Welcome Garden America. I'm Brian Main,
John Beg NASCAR, Tiger Palafox from the What you see
in the background is Tiger's backyard. We'll have more on
that later on as we get real detailed into all
the plant material.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
John, what if you're just listening on the radio or.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
You're talking about our good friends on biz talk radio,
that's right, you know what, because they're not watching this,
but they can go watch it, right.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
They can.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
They can watch it on our Facebook page, right, Garden
America Radio Show, or if they prefer, while they're listening
on biz talk radio, they can do what we call
theater of the mind. They can imagine.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, you're gonna have to be descriptive of.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
What his backyard looks like. And John's gonna name every
plant here in a while.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, no, Tiger will have to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
We're good to go. Yeah, No, we're good. I just
tell you whenever.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's funny because whenever John and I go on and
on and on and we don't hear from Tiger and
I try to read his body language, uh huh, and
I couldn't read it this time, so we just had
to say, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Are we good? And he says we are good? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
The the newsletter this week. If you get the newsletter.
First of all, if you don't get the how do you.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Get the newsletter? It's very complicated, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't know. I don't honestly don't have Now. I
think you can just go to Gardenamerica dot com and
click on sign up for the newsletter.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Why do we ask for people's Social Security number? Did
we stop doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, we don't do that anymore any always ask All
we asked for now is a American Express CREDITR.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's nice. Nothing, No, it's free.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's absolutely You can go to our website. Guards say
it's absolutely free and worth every penny, every penny, but
we wrote I wrote an article this week about Tiger's
garden in his theory of gardening. And I don't know
if Tiger's going to join us here, but I.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Wanted him to Tiger arrange that flyover by the way.
Thank you for that, Tiger.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
That's how you know it's live Brian. But I wanted
Tiger to explain that article a little bit and what
his theory of gardening is, because what I like about
Tiger is he gives you permission to do almost anything
if you enjoy doing it. Right, Tiger, exactly what now?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Explain that he gave you permission to do anything you
like if you enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Well, I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
You no constraints in the garden design or what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
No demand, no demand, right right.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
So just a touch there you go, Just just look.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
So it's a little bit of up or down man.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
A little.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
It's a little survival of the fittest, you know, because
I will plant plants where I want them to be
and where I think they can grow. But doesn't mean
they're going to have the irrigation or you know, some of.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
The other needs that they may have. I will plant
plants that I've collected and I liked.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
But that's it is. It doesn't have to be an
overarching design that you have to adhere to. Yeah, if
you like the plant, you'll just find a spot for it, right, that's.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
You know what that's that is so funny.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You mentioned that back back in the nineties when I
had had a lot of property, big house in Pacific Beach.
I had a four door Chevy whatever, it was not
an issue, not a truck. I'd go to home depot.
I would buy plants. I had no idea what their
their names were. I liked him, I would stuff him
in my car. I would come home. I would plant

(04:04):
them wherever, really giving no thought to sunlight, no thought
to location, no thought to water. And I was successful
about ninety five percent of the time because I didn't
know enough to be dangerous. I just kind of let
it be. That may not work for everybody, but it's
kind of what Tiger's saying. Maybe the irrigation is not

(04:25):
quite there, but I like the plant, and you go
for it, because is there a right and wrong way
to garden?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
And you went right from that too, I ought to
do a gardening show right from that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I told you this story about Bruce Asakawa, and we're
talking about the same thing years ago, and he looks
at me, he says, be careful what he goes because
now you know a little bit. Now you're going to
start overthinking you're dangerous.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Now you know just enough to be dangerous.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
The other thing I think John appreciates with my garden
or style too, is the idea that, like, for instance,
all the status that we talked about grow right.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I don't really have a plan for those.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Areas yet, or the ability to work on those areas
or what I'm.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Going to do, so I just let them be.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
They're placeholders, they are, and I leave them there.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
And even they might not be my most favorite plant,
they might not be the best plan for it, but
I leave them there because if I take them out, now,
just have dirt or weats, right, they might as well
have something, you know, along the side of us over
here are all those bananas and you know, you know

(05:36):
they're not bad, but they look good.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
They they've got fruit hanging on.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
How long have those been there?

Speaker 5 (05:45):
I mean since we've owned the house. They were already
they were already there. Yeah, you cleaned them up a lot, Yes,
a lot. Yeah, I've been, and I've been thinning them out,
meaning I've been removing them rather than letting them keep repopulating.
I only let so many repopulate. And it's so funny. Okay,
let's see the shot that's on the camera right now. Okay, oh,

(06:06):
let me go back. So if you look over the
top of Brian's head right now, there's a cluster of
bananas right behind him, and I think there's an irrigation
leak over there, because that cluster of bananas is so
much bigger, so many more bananas, and a little greener too,
than the rest of the section. You know, that's interesting

(06:26):
that I think that there's an irrigation break over there.
They get a lot more water than all the rest.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Now you've got giant bird of Paradise mixed with them.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yes, yeah, that was not my choice either, that.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Which is interesting. You have to look very carefully.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Can't tell the difference between the two.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I don't know. It just pops right out to me,
you know, it does.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is unrelated, but related. Back when I was a kid,
early sixties. I don't know when it was. But some
friends of my folks went fishing, deep sea fishing. They
came back to the house, and again this was through
my blurry memory of being a kid. They cut up
the fish, and I remember they were going to plant.
We had just planted a bird of paradise. They took

(07:07):
all these raw fish, they cut them up, and they
put them in.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
The ground fishmeal.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I'll tell you what, within a month that thing
took off just based on that, and nobody knew what
they were doing. They just thought that fish is going
to be good for the plant. And it was a
giant bird of paradise. And that's my story. That's my
that's my fish story.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
And you're sticking to it.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'm going to stick to that.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
You know what I would do. I mean, I like
what Tiger had it is done with these bananas, and
I would if this was my house, I would have
that row bananas. But you know what I would do differently, Tiger,
What can you take a guess? I know, M no, no, no, no.
I would keep the bananas there, except I would get

(07:52):
out my book Banana Varieties of the World, and I
would make sure that I had at least a dozen different.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Types yeah, one of each variety.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, one that i've I had years and years ago
and it didn't make it, unfortunately. But I I don't
know if I have time, I might try another one someday.
But I want to put in a rhino horny banana.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Is it just one banana that comes out of the whole?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
What are you cluster?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Right?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I don't know if it's what do they call those hands?

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Hands?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Well, they said that each individual thing is a hand, right,
But that whole big bunch of hands, it's mini hands.
What do you call mini hands? No, mini is in
a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Of numerous numerous, numerous hands, several hands, a lot, a
lot of.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
But both the rhino horn may be it. The clusters
aren't as big. But each banana is two feet long.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. One giant banana.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Have you ever eaten it?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
You got to show me this.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Have you ever eaten it? No? No, what it tastes?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah? I see that you wondered about the flavor, right.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, you know again, I read the book Banana Varieties
of the World. But of course he did, But I haven't.
I haven't worked with bananas for such a long time
that I'd have to refresh my memory, and I can't
remember if that was an inedible banana, a fruit banana,
or a plantain, you know, because plantains you don't eat fresh.

(09:26):
They've got to be cooked. That's the difference.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't know. That's interesting. That's food for thought. For thought. Now,
we got a break coming up here. Any questions comments,
How are we doing so far?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, we got a good quote of the week. When
we come back, we'll do the quote of the week.
And meantime, Tiger's gonna fix my phone so I can
see the comments.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Also, Oh yeah, we do this every week, don't we.
It's had a fun little bit that we've worked into
the show. Even though John brings him up before the show,
he loses them and then Tiger can bring those comments
back up. So again, yes, this is Garden America. Thank
you to BIS Talk Radio. Welcome those on Facebook Live
as we broadcast live from Tiger's place here in San Diego, California.
We are going to take a break, as John mentioned,

(10:11):
going to stay close to that clock for BIS Talk
Radio quicker break on Facebook Live. So again, thank you
for joining us live remote Tiger's house here in San Diego.
The backyard. I'm Brian Maine, John Beg, Nascar, Tiger Pella
Fox Again, as we say most every week, here back
after these messages from our good friends on BIZ Talk Radio,
and we are back from that break BIS Talk Radio,

(10:31):
Facebook Live. It is gardened America in case you're just
joining us. And boy, you got a sad looking dog
they're looking at from the kitchen. Tiger wanting to be
out here with us, Charlie and Chandler, right.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, they'll just be bugging us. Though.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
We did a lot of show prep with Charlie and
Chandler before the show. But we are back, and John
the quote of the week, which obviously is in that
newsletter we talked about top of the show.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
You know, in the quote of the week, I you know,
I'm going through putting the finishing touches on my on
the novel that I just wrote, and and I used
this quote in my novel, and I went back and
read the story or the excerpt from the book that
it came from, and it just impressed me. And the

(11:14):
quotes from David Fairchild, and it comes after he returned
from a trip to Hawaii, and back then there were
no airplanes, so you know, it had to be by
boat and he was based in Washington, d C. So
kind of a long way, yeah, kind of a long ways.

(11:34):
But anyway, he said that I'm glad that I saw
a few of the quiet places of the world before
the coming of automobiles and jazz.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Automobiles and jazz. Doesn't that yeah, you know, it's yeah,
it really does. Yeah, David Fairchild, do we have Do
you have your comments on your phone?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
John?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Right now, we're working with Tanya, but I'm trying to
get I'm trying to make sure everybody can share share
the link because we set it up a little differently
this week where we went live via my Facebook page
and shared it on and shared it onto Garden American
American book page, which means that people aren't getting the

(12:17):
Garden Americas Live notice that they would normally get, so
they'd have to go to our Facebook page and then click.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
On the link.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Okay, and let anybody else know as well that once
that wants to watch and here today's show.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
So you know, we were talking a little bit about
the Garden, you know, before the last break too, and
you know, I mean, it's always fun to share what
you're doing in your garden with with people. I mean,
that's part of our show, is you know, like the
photos that we put in the newsletter and how we
share what's happening, and you know, we try to include

(12:59):
people and what what's what's being done in their yard,
what they're successful or what their failures are. And it's
it's a little bit you know, also kind of unnerving
sometimes because it's it's almost like you're opening yourself up
to the uh, the critique or criticism of other people.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Absolutely, but I will say, and I don't know John,
if you feel this way also because you have so
many people come to your yard every year because you
have you know, rose auction preparation, you have you know,
plant preservation meetings and groups and all this other stuff
that it's all we have.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
A landscaper's trying to make sense of everything exactly.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
But it's but it's almost like a chef that cooks
a meal that they recognize how hard it is to
cook a meal that when you go to someone's yard,
now you don't critique them at all, because you like,
you know what it's hard.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
And if you have some.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Week, yeah, I usually look for what I like, Yeah,
you know what you don't like? Yeah, I don't. I
usually don't critique gardens. I look at plants and say everything.
For instance, I gave you a Dorianthus PALMERI h what's
it called spirit lily? Right?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, huh, sorry.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Brian, A little bit we blasting this morning.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I and and you showed it to me over here,
and I was almost jealous. It looks so good.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
But I mean, you know, like you said, you pick
out what you like, right, you don't focus on what
you don't like. And I think that's the true A
true gardener is going to walk into someone's yard and
just see all the great things because they know the
little other things, the needs, the not properly trimmed plant
or or walking.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Into somebody's garden.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, and you're you're very impressed by something that that's
thriving that they have, Yes, and you couldn't grow it. Yes,
And so you say, what are you doing? How what
are you doing to make that look so good? And
usually it's nothing more than a little fertilizer in water, you.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Know what, nothing more.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
We're looking for that elixir like that, that magic potion
that made it, that made you successful, and that's that's
what I would look for something that I'm having a
problem with, and I see somebody else and you know,
they're having a lot of success.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
I think that's why people do fall into that trap
that you know of what people are selling out there.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
On you know, the Internet or what people are selling.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
It's like, oh, you put this on your plants and
it'll be fine, It'll grow so much faster. You put
this on your plants and it'll take all the bugs away,
or whatever it may be.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know, you know, but where is it planted? How
much sun is it getting? Northeast, west or south?

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Did Brian plant it?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, exactly what's it? What's the temperature range? There's so
many factors that go into it. It's their soil in
the pot that's debatable.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Some people are really for soil.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
And you're a big soil guy, John, do you think
that's the key to a lot of successful growing.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Look at the dresina right there in front of Brian's
mixer board.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
There's no soil in.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
There doing quite well.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Brian. Can you lift that up and show it to John?
Look at it from the top.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
The reason why I like this one doesn't it look
like it's kind of growing in a spiral.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yes, it does.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, I really like that Dressina, This is nice.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Very nice.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I don't know if that's just the way.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
It I think it's that variety. Yeah, there's a door
variety that curls like that.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
There's a lot of breeding that's been done with those
types of rosinas, you know, and you'll get some with
white stripes instead of sharp truse like this, and everyone's
a little bit different. I really like those. By the way,
you were talking about the way that I critique gardens
and how I always look for the best and things

(16:53):
and things that I like. Yeah, and it's always been
easy for me to do that with gardens, and I'm
I'm just getting to the point where I realized I
need to do it with people and treating treating people
like plants is something I need to work on.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're getting there. I've seen some progress.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
As you get older, you mellow out a little bit.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
So, yeah, you mellow out and you you're less You
don't focus on all of the noise that's out there,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
A lot of negativity, Yeah, exactly, So do you see John?
As I get off my long, long kind of guy.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
No, I don't I see him.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
If if John lived I used to used to be
a under those guys, I believe it.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I believe it.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
But if I if John lived in a track home
area where it was like a neighborhood and he had
people like walking by his house and everything, I could
see John now as.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Always being out in the front yard. Ye, everybody says
hi to him as they walk by.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
They do.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Everybody's checking in on what's new, because I think he's
always doing something new in his yard. And I think
he's also the kind of guy that if people were
to walk by and say, hey, John, do you mind
if I, you know, cut some roses for a bouquet
or something, I think he would be totally fine with it.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
He'd be like, okay, because he doesn't do it.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Those in the back are fine, don't cut him here,
but the ones in the back have at it.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
You're giving me more credit than I deserve right now.
I think no, But.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I think because you would do that, but you just
are like, yeah, over delivering them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Maybe Hey, it.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Is break time.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
We're gonna stay on track here for BIS Talk Radio.
So thank you for joining us. Those on Facebook live,
those on bistalk Radio, questions, comments, I see John on
your phone. So things are okay, so far, so far,
so far, so good. So we're gonna take a break
for bistalk Radio. Stay with us, whatever's on your mind.
We are guarding to America back after these messages, back
from the break. We generally do come back from the breaks.

(19:02):
Only a few times over the years have we not
come back from a break. Surprisingly, but we are back
live broadcasting from a tiger's backyard here in San Diego, California. John,
have you man? You meet it on time this morning? Yeah,
you're you're refreshed.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I brought you pots this morning, and you brought pots.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I was cleaning out a pile that my wife has
been threatening me about for the last month, and we
took my son got a dump trailer and we loaded
it to the top and made a trip to the
Some of your leftovers, yeah, and well there were some.
I thought, you know, these are just too nice to

(19:40):
throw out. Maybe somebody could use them.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
The one that I chose, I can barely lift. It's
a solid pot.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, that was a nice pot, good ceramic pot. Yes,
absolutely it's substantial.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I like substantial.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah. Our good friend Kathy from Eureka joined us.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Hello Kathy.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Hello. Kathy and I have been chatting lately, and she's
getting to the point where if she's not careful, I'm
going to have to give her acknowledgments in my book.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, because the last thing you write is
the forward, right.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
The last thing you write is the forward, because, like
you're saying, you know, I don't have a forward in
my book right now. The last thing you put in
is the acknowledgement.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Right. But but maybe you know the first.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Thing I wrote was the prologue.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
As opposed to the epilogue, which would be the end
of the book.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, it's uh. Some of our listeners, especially radio listeners,
might not know what we're talking about. But I just
completed my first fiction book. You know. I've written some
nonfiction books on gardening, but it's my first fiction book,

(20:57):
and I was kind of at a lost because it
was all new, and I some people that I respect
their opinions are helping me go through it now.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And well, the part that you wrote for me or wanted.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
You too, it wasn't you. It was a character that
happened to have the same name but spelled differently.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right in pretty much the same industry, And I thought
you did a good job with that. I don't know
if going back twenty years you would have had enough
knowledge or information I would have written it that.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, I don't think so, because I wasn't as familiar
with radio back then.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Exactly would you think it for years? And what we
all do?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
And podcasts are new, but podcast is a radio shows.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
People that would never have a platform prior to five
ten years ago. Everyone's a radio star.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I remember one of the criticisms on trying to think
how long I've been doing the radio show, maybe twenty
five years?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Twenty five comes to mind.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, because before I started working with you, I was
working with Ken Kramer.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, then it goes back even ft for a couple
of years. It's probably thirty years because you and I
hooked up at Kogo right in the late nineties. Yeah,
nineteen ninety nine, two thousand. That's twenty five years just
that alone.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
But I remember one of the first criticisms that I
took to heart was I don't know if he was
production manager or what, but making the comment to our
boss at the time, can't this guy just stick to
the script and talk about gardening. We don't care about
his comments of what's going on around.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, see, now that's a program director, right.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Do you know who that was? Cliff Albert? Oh, oh, Cliffy.
You know it's interesting and I always respected Cliff. I
never knew him, you know, I think I might have
only met him once or twelve.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Every program directors have a different take.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
They're all somebody else might say, you know, that's good,
little a little you know, slice of life, John, that's good,
you know, tempered with you know what you're talking about.
Just make sure there's a balance there that could be
from another program.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I think what he was upset with was there was
we were in a new studio and there was something
going on in the background, and I made a comment
about it, and I think he was upset that I
brought that to the radio, right because there was no
video at that time, and and he was just thinking,
you know, that's not something people on the radio want

(23:34):
to hear about.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Well, then I agree with them.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, it was a lot of learned a lot, not much,
but learned a lot.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
There are some basics but again it's it's like every
PD is going to be a little different.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, you know. So wasn't your wife a program director?

Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, she was in music. She worked with the record companies.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
She worked with the guys that would come down from
LA and promote their client and then take him out
to lunch. And you know, somebody from Columbia.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I thought she worked well.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
She was a producer, and then she produced more Martian
as well.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Got it, hm, Tanya.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Tanya had asked in the distance behind us, as the
brown building part of my property as well?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
And you know I misread that too. She said, is
the brown building behind or part of Tiger's place? Yeah,
and and I thought I read it as Tiger's palace.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Talking about the.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
It's the gazebo back there, which maybe a little later
in the show. I'll take one camera and see if
I can show the lower part.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Of the property.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
So, yes, that gazebo back there, and then behind that
is another whiteish building with a black top. And that's
the poolhouse down there that I talk about in reference
sometimes too, So I'll try to move a camera a
little so much.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
More than a pool.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well, I was thinking the same thing. It could it
could be spare bedroom, guesthouse. It could be a kitchen
at a shower.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
It's closer to uh, it's a GameHouse.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's a game room, game room. Yeah, it is a
guest house, is what it is.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
There's a little kitchen in that That'll be definitely a
game room later on when I don't have kids anymore,
and I'm just gonna like turn it into whatever i
want own games.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, exactly, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I would probably turn it into a library. Maybe i'd
add a second story.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Your your library is probably as big as that right now,
right you you'd have to have two of those already.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Oh, I don't know. Your place is five hundred square feet.
I don't think my library is five hundred square feet.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
No, I it seems like it. You have such an
expansive collection.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's pretty.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Walls are so tall that you.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
He's got the proverbial ladder on rollers that goes back
and forth when you want to reach a book high
high upon the platform.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
That's my favorite toy, right it is.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think it's the first thing I asked you when
you were building it, and I was being kind of facetious,
and you said, I've got one of those.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Actually, I'm actually going to put what it was in there.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
And I go rolling down it or sliding down it, and.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Then I like what something else John does when he
asks people there and they ask him about a particular book,
and then he knows exactly where it is. But he'll
climb the ladder, He'll go back and forth a few times.
He'll take a couple of books out, tap it and then
pull one out. It's a whole sixty second thing, like
I know it's here someplace, Oh, here it is.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I have a new addition to the library that you
might appreciate. I have, you know, I would say two
thirds of it is gardening books and one third is
fantasy books. Okay, click on your face, Brian, Okay, but
you know fiction fantasy like Lord of the Rings and

(26:49):
stuff like that. But there's one one one section of
the particular author, Robin Hobbs, has a lot of titles
that are relating to dragons. So those are all up
on one shelf. And I found a bookend that's a
dragon head with claws that come out and hold the books,

(27:13):
and I'll have to take a picture.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I didn't know you were into dragons. Used to be interesting.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
He likes those that that genre, yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
There were dragons in dragons in Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah right, yeah, No, that's what I'm saying. Like that genre.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You know that there's no notations and or drawings of
dragons and just about every kind in the world, long
long before there was transportation to get to and from
these places, so you couldn't go from one place that
had him and then went to someplace else.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
And just drew it.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Very interesting. I guess we call him the beasts, right John?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Was dragon fruit before the dragon or did that come
after the dragon?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
They named dragons.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Dragons after dragon fruit.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't know. You can't have dragon fruit. Why don't
you have any dragon fruit?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I do. There's one cutting that I just got in
a pot over.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Here because that would grow good in the dry area.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Oh yeah, and my daughter loves dragon fruit, so she she.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
We talked about this last I was a little I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
People who don't like dragon fruit and I and I
kind of wonder why. I think someone made the comment
about they didn't the little tiny seeds, yeah, bothered.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Like straw strawberries.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
But those seeds to me are like poppy seeds. Yeah,
if you really like it.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't think the seeds bother you.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
No. I actually like the seeds and the texture because
of the because it does remind me of poppy seeds.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Do you like Kiwi?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I love?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Kiwi is the same kind of thing with the sea.
But some people can't get past the fuzzy skin that
it just sets them off. Well, you're not supposed I
know you're not supposed to eat it, but I mean
even just the idea of it, And.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
A lot of people don't like certain foods only because
of texture.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, is it tastes good, It's okay.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
My granddaughter's like this.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
It's the texture. I just can't stomach it. Hates break
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(29:29):
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Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's how it works.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
So again, final segment our one BIS Talk Radio Biz
Talk BIS Talk. Good friends on BIS Talk Radio Scott Stephanie,
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to because they keep us on the air.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Texas, I believe, right where were they?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Is it Texas? Now that's a good question. I can't remember,
but it's not hearing they had they had moved.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
No, they're not California, but they did, they did move,
and originally it was up in New England years ago,
years ago.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I thought they were in Texas.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
I think you're right, that's you know, we we should uh,
we should see where you know they're from and then
we can do a show based on their region.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Just exactly right.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
They're in New England in the middle of winter. We're
going to talk palm trees and flumme areas.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
But Texas man talking about not overwatering.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
My son listened to extremes, right, how does areas are flooding?
Are desert?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah? There, I'm remulching the dry cactus succulent area, are you?
And what's just fresh? Mults?

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Just fresh?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Okay, Yeah, i'mutting down.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
That was the natural mults before.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, and that's what I'm doing the same thing, natural mults,
but it's just new and I'm putting down wheat preventer
getting out all the wheats, and then looks really good.
But the one area where I had the pebble garden
and put in the living stones and things, people kept
walking through it. My daughter stepped and killed the lithops

(31:35):
And is this sectioned off?

Speaker 4 (31:39):
No, No, he's he's the only one that works in
his yard. So when other people come walking through his
yard and they don't see these small well you remember,
like a lithoup looks like a.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Rock number one, and that was the point of the
pebble number two.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
They're about an inch big, right, But.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
My daughter was weeding and she's said on one and
she killed it. And then my son was helping me
yesterday bringing up some new mulch and he almost stepped
in it. And so many people have gone through there.
My daughter told me, well, the way you have it,
it looks like something you're supposed.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
To step on.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, so I had a metal road runner that I
put right in there. Okay, so you can't walk, I mean, yeah,
you would step on the road runner, gotcha, So I
think it's okay.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
So, you know, that's one of the one of the
biggest challenges as a landscape company too, is with people
that know their yards and whether it's bulbs or seeds
or something coming up.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
You know, when you.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
First come to a yard and you see a bunch
of little seedlings coming up in a bed, you just
think they're weeds because all you all look the same,
right like they you know, they all just the up
little green sprigs. And it could be a sunflower, it could.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Be a you know, a weed, it could be a banana,
it could be a lot of things. So a landscaper
goes in there and just cleans them out. Well, then
people like, yeah, that's where I had my wildflower seeds.
That's where I had my vegetable garden. That's where.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
And it's like, oh yeah, sorry, you gotta you gotta
put some signage up. You gotta put a roadrunner in
the middle to the garden.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Be careful what you step on.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
When my daughter last year was working on the side
garden waiting it for me, and I really appreciate all
our efforts. But of course, what's the first thing I
did was I went out there and I go, where's
the rare Uh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
The rare there's the words.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, the rare Brugmansia that was there that can't be replaced.
She said, what did it look like? I said, it
looked like grass.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
It's in the bottom of the trash can.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, so, so I did lose that plant. Speaking of Brigmansia,
is you're still it's the one that's the big bulb
and it so I think the species might be Catherine Imanciac. Yeah,

(34:15):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
No, it's the bulb you gave me, right, I'll show
it to you.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, I'll show it to you because it.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Grew for a minute, but now it's not, and so
I don't know if it's storm okay, so good, because
I thought I killed it. No, no, no, so so yes,
and I do have it. I'll show you where it's at.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Now, now it's fucking me. What the heck is that plan?

Speaker 5 (34:37):
It's a bulb it had it's almost like a an amarillis,
like you know, meaning like the Brunsvigi Brunsvigia.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, that's why that's pretty close bruns Vigia. Yeah, that's
why I got it mixed up. Okay, yes, well why
I got it mixed up, it's because I'm old. But yeah,
the names are similar, but it's a bruns figia and
I think that I have one and I gave you one,
and they're about the same age. They were grown from seed,

(35:07):
so they're almost blooming size. And I don't know if
it'll bloom in a pot. Mine's in the ground. Yours
is in a container.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
No, mine's in the ground.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Oh, yours in the ground?

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Yeah, show you where plan?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Does it require water? Not in the summer, okay, So
it's in an area that doesn't get water in the summer. Yeah,
that's why I kind of okay.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, so it should be okay, But the thing about
it is when it puts out its bloom spike. The
bloom is about I'm thinking like twelve to eighteen inches
across almost like And the reason I gave it to
you was you were really impressed with when we were
in England with all the alium aliums. So it's that

(35:49):
type of a bloom, except much.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Much boder bunch of alioms.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
None of them, none of them grew. Now you have
to move.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yeah, So I think I have a good spot for that,
Prince Vigia, because it's an area that doesn't get water
in the summertime, and in the wintertime.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
It can get water for its scenario that drains real well,
just not a lot.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
And then in the wintertime it's an area that the
water drains to, so therefore it does get wet through
the wintertime, you know, but it's draining at the same time.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
So Brunce Bigia, our friend Tanyas identifying with you with
the story about my pebble garden. Yeah, because she posted
no poor lithops.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Yeah, yeah, they don't when when you step on them,
you would think they.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Would pop like a little like jelly.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
They're kind of hard.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, they don't pop like you.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
But now shouldn't you shouldn't there be like a short
briefing before you turn them loose in your garden. You know,
don't step on this this plants. I mean you just
kind of let them go and before you walk through by. Yeah, exactly.
This rare one of a kind.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
My daughter doesn't like instructions.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I liked that she came out and weed it and stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Though she did so much wading, unbelievable for her.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Well, you know what good you know, if they say
it about good waders hard to come by.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
When you see a good weader, keep them. We got
to take a break. I'm sorry, okay, Yeah, we got
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(37:34):
That was one heck of a break. We've had a
lot of breaks over the years. I can't recall one
more fun than that break. So it was a lot
of fun. Before the break though, I was asking John if.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh, by the way, welcome back to Garden America. By
the way, Yeah, yeahyeah, yeah, Garden America. Yeah, thank you
very much. All right, here we go.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
If if Gina is at all feels like she's missing
some of the California gardening. Wealked about it.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Where she lives. There's things that she can grow there,
which is we can't grow here, right right, that's embrace that,
you know, love that.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
But at the same time, there is also a time
of year where some other parts of the country she
can't guarden at all. Like it's just like you go
out in the yard, there's nothing to do, there's nothing growing.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
It's just what it is. And so does she come
back here and be like, man, it's so neat that
I can weave even this time of year.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Well, I don't know. She thinks it's neat that she
can weave. Yeah, she's need that she can wead, but
well she is good at it. But she also likes
to see things finished. So she wanted to start a
project and then have all the new mulch down and
everything perfect before she left, which unfortunately we did not
have time to do. But now we're pretty close, nice

(38:51):
and almost I would say virtually all the beds around
the house are are finished.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
So she likes projects, and she likes to be outside.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Right, and she she mentions she only does pretty gotcha.
So she doesn't like planting a botanical collection.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Gotcha, but she did. And she does like cleaning and
mulching and arranging, and.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
She likes color combinations.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I love color too, I know exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, but she has to have the combinations. Like at home,
she has a white and pink garden, the entire garden.
She doesn't allow yellows or reds into her garden.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
See that doesn't work for you or I no, no,
but if I see a yellow plant that I'm like,
I like it, Yes, I'm getting it. Yeah, and I'll
find a spot for it. Yeah, like we talked about it.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well, she would find a spot, just not in amongst
the particular colors your title.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
She has no anywhere really are to go because she's
very specific.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
And she's just on a small lot compared to them.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
You know, she's she doesn't have room for a yellow garden.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
She's like the upper part of your house and uh,
you know, in a tract.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, So I think she convinced my wife to also
want a pink and white garden. So we have the
the one area by the bathroom door that's pink and white.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Okay, pretty much, so you're just gonna it's just gonna
stay pink and white.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, it'll just right there. My wife let purple creep
into it, and then she decided, I want all the
purple out. So we've been removing all the purple and
the only purple left is one heliotrope because it was
almost dead. It was in a dry part of that
area where the irrigation wasn't hitting. So I thought, I'll

(40:41):
move it and it will come back, and I fertilized it,
and now it's starting to do real well. But it
wasn't until after I replanted it and it was doing well,
I realized, oh, it's purple.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Has Shannon over the years either taken more of an
interest or kind of been a little more forthright with
the garden outside and certain things that she wants that
maybe before prior she didn't really have an interest.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
She's not so much of a plant person as she
is a visual person, and she knows if it's appealing
to her. Okay, she wants a yard, Yes, she wants
a yard, and she also wants to wants it to
be neat. Yes, it has to be neat.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
She wants a yard, you know, and I can appreciate
that and understand that.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
You know, she's out there with the soccer ball, you know,
kicking that around.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Where John wants a garden.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
You know, ultimately his is a garden where you know,
Shannon is a yard, so to speak.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
And people say, well, what's the difference.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
There's a difference, And I think that the big difference
is that a yard is an area where people can
come and they can hang out.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
They can run around, the kids can play. Yeah, no harm,
no foul.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Exactly where a garden is going to be probably not
necessarily always usable space because the plants are filling up
certain areas. It's it's more, you know, the plant based,
plant focused, you know, kind of a thing, not so
much space focused.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
She did tell me something after we were first married,
and it was that she was talking to a friend
of ours about gardens and she said, before I married John,
I would drive down the street and all I saw
was green. And this is when we were living in Michigan.
She says, Now I see elm trees and maple trees

(42:38):
and specific specific plants. Yeah, and I've always seen plants
my whole life. Yeah, so I that was the first
time I realized that people had different mindsets, in different
ways of looking.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
And I think growing up I kind of like Shannon
to a degree, I would just look out and, like
right now, I could as a kid, I'd just say,
there's a bunch of plants out there, not really looking
at each individual or focusing in and saying, wow, wow,
what is that?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Well, were you like that, Tiger because you were brought
up in the nursery industry, So did you always see plant? Plants?
You never saw it just like green? What about Janine?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Janine only like yours, said Shannon.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
She sees green, and she sees something she likes, but
it's a plant, It's not a whatever the plant may be.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
But I remember when we were at the Plumeria show.
She liked plume area.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Yeah, yeah she does.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
But but whether it's a purple striped plumeria, she doesn't
really care.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
No, no, And and and I think here's where that
whole I grew up seeing plants coming from came was
because obviously my dad, you know, when we would travel
or when we would be places, he would make comments,
all right, look at this, Oh, look at that, and
he would know the name of the plant.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
You tell me what it is.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
So growing up, plants always had names to me, where
for Janine, plants didn't have names.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Shrum frum flower.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
That was me, what do you mean, how do you
know the name of that? Because that's what it is. Really,
that's what that is.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
So so it's a very different upbringing. Then later on
when you start to actually put names with the plants,
and you know, and then you also start to learn,
you know, like what you just were saying with Jeanine
with the plue area, Like she knows plumeria and she
can appreciate them.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Especially if they're fragrant.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, but at the same time, you and I would
appreciate them on another level because we know maybe the
rarity of it, or.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
This one's got a different variegation.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yeah. Like for instance, even this little Dressina on our table,
you and I understand the uniqueness of it because we
understand it's a curly, spiral growing one them, not just
a basic.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Strappy leaf Dressina, you know, because I mean Drosina is
what's the what's the other name is not dumb gain? No,
what's the common name for drosina corn plant corn plant,
you know.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
And people will be like, oh, that's a corn plant,
you know, and they.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Just see I never knew it as a corn plant,
you know.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
But yeah, but you know, people, oh that's a corn
plant whatever, and they just think it's a normal. They
put it in one name, one group. They don't always
break it up into the different varieties that there may be.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
So yeah, Leonor says that she can't see us sent
me any instant message? Did you get that? Maybe you
can send her the link you can get this happen?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh yeah, so so well, yeah, you I was going
to say, you could explain it, but if people I
can't hear us or listen to us, there's no reason
to explain it, right So what So that's what Tiger's
going to do right now.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
We've done this before though in the past. We've used
Tiger's page to feed our Facebook page.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Have we years ago? And it seems to be holding.
So there is something about our page. It might be
the culprit. Anyway, we got a couple of minutes before
the next break.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I think it's a conspiracy when you get right down
to it. I think there's other garden, other garden shows
out there that are trying to shut us down.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
You call them garden hackers.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
They're trying to shut down our gardening voice. Yes exactly.
I I guess maybe because of the political climate climate,
but mainly because of the book I'm writing. Everything's a
conspiracy right now?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
That's that?

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Do you think that that's put you in a different
mindset like you writing this book?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Absolutely, you're creating conspiracies?

Speaker 3 (46:45):
You are You're am I creating conspiracies? Or or am
I just discovering ones that are already there?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
See right there?

Speaker 5 (46:57):
But like to some degree, you have to create them
in your mind to put this on paper.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
And and you're absolutely right. Can you create them without.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Believing believing something?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
It just takes one person to say something about something
and then people run with it. Oh you know, we
never landed on the moon, you know what?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, you know? And the earth is flat?

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Oh wait, what can you can you imagine?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Let's take a quick break. Okay, but don't don't forget
what you can you imagine? Got it?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Last things out of Tiger's Tiger's mouth. As we take
a break. BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. This is Guarden America.
Brian Main John Magnasco Tiger Pola Fox back after these
messages on BIS Talk Radio. Well guess what we're back, hey,
and well Tiger don't go ahead, but Tiger I remember,
Oh yeah, okay, go ahead, John.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Well, I was just gonna mention that, you know, some
people Carlage just joined us. She just found the link,
and I wanted to let people know that, Uh, if
you miss the first part of the show, it will
be posted on Facebook. Right, is that right, Tiger? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
So and our YouTube channel this afternoon, right, Garden America
Radio Show on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
You can watch the Yes, you can go back and
see and it's already it's it's already edited. Oh wow,
No breaks know nothing, you just go All you see
is pure show, pure show.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
John.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Carla mentioned the link on Facebook wasn't working for her,
Tiger and Yeah and Tanya had to share it. But
carl also mentioned that she loved the description of Tiger's
gardening method. So she said that there isn't anything she'd
she'd love more than to spend a week non stop
in the garden, but her energy level and other responsibilities

(48:42):
don't allow it. And so one of the things in
that article that we talked about earlier in the show
is that the tiger doesn't have a week to spend
in the garden either. You know, so he's got five
minutes before he takes the kids somewhere that he'll go
out and deadhead something, or you know, he might say,
I'm going to take an hour and I'm going to

(49:03):
just work on this section of the garden this weekend.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
You're one thirty in the morning, when it's quiet, you know,
nobody's bothering. You put some lights on.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
A little moon like gardening, a little moon like gardening.
There's an idea for an article moon like gardening. Well,
we've had articles on moon gardening before, which is gardening,
so gardening for the way it will appear at night,
because there's a lot of flowers that open at night, right,

(49:34):
and not so much during the day. As a matter
of fact, there's there's a similar similar to a morning
glory called the moonflower. Yeah, and and those open at night.
And then there's four o'clocks which open at four o'clock.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Now, as far as fragrance is there certain jasmines that
only are more fragrant at night.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Jasmine, right, yeah, right, there's a lot of plants that
are fragrant at night. And you know, I they're fragrant
at night, Brian, because.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
They are being attracted to all those people that are
awake at night.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Right, No, I thought you would have had the correct answer.
I'm just kidding that.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
But they're fragrant because they're attracting. They want to attract,
attract what. Well, there you go.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
They want your your You are on the right right track.
They want they attract pollinators, and they're pollinated by.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Moths, right, they are only that are nocturns.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
That are active at night or bats.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Right. But speaking of that, you were going to put
a belfry in.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Your house that was in my old toes.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
So before I forget yes, and I was supposed to
remember this coming we were talking about.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Wow, that that impressed. Yeah, that you can remember that
line where.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
You were we were talking about things that surprise conspiracy right, yes, okay,
And I'm watching this show right now with Jason Momoa
Hawaii back in the day and you know, civilized, you know,
the Europeans are starting to come into Hawaii and expose

(51:12):
them to things and whatnot. And I mean imagine and
early on somebody telling you about this fruit or this
plant with these thorns, or it was this crazy color
or this animal, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Like, and you would think, like, that's not real. It's
a conspiracy theory. They're just making stuff up that doesn't exist.
And then all of a sudden, one day it shows
up to you and you see a pineapple, or you
see the plume area, or you see you know, corn
or whatever it may be, and you taste it, and
you know, I mean, that's got to be So what

(51:50):
about all the.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
People that had to taste something for the first time? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, and you sit around going, how's he doing? Well,
it's been a minute since he took the bite, how
do you feel?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
All right?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Did you ever read James Mitchener's book Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
No, but we've talked about this before though.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Well they were. It's about the missionaries going over to
Hawaiian and this one missionary who was like the other
missionaries all developed over the years into normal people. But
Abner Hale kept his like Puritan origins, very strict in

(52:28):
what he was doing. And on the way over he
knew that the Hawaiians ate bananas, so he made his
wife eat bananas the whole boat trip over there and
they didn't know they had to be ripe, so they
were eating like green bananas, and she was seasick and

(52:49):
they were all vomiting.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
And then they arrived and they give them to them
and they go.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Well, no, when they arrived, I think they eventually learned
how they were supposed to that.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Can you imagine if you did arrive and you're like, well,
you've been eating it like that this whole time?

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Well, that that's It's kind of like what you were
talking about. It's like the first time you don't know
what to do. If someone gave you a pineapple? Would
you know what to do with that?

Speaker 4 (53:14):
No, you just can't buy that. You can't.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
How about like you said, not knowing that bananas riping
off the tree? You know, we have to wait till
they're ripe, oh okay, or avocados, I mean all that,
having to learn all that.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Yeah, No, so so definitely, I feel probably plants were
probably one of the first conspiracy theorist things that people
used to be like, that doesn't exist, that doesn't it's
not real.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Or legend, a legend, legend.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
You know. There you go, there's the word, and I'll
tell you.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I'll tell you speaking of that, it's just like koala
bears and silver backed gorillas. And I use those two
as an examples because people used to talk about them
and they thought it was an urban legend that that
until about nineteen hundred, nobody had seen a gorilla, or
these that did see it were far, you know, few
and far between. They'd come back with these stories and they, oh, yeah,

(54:05):
a giant chimpanzee, giant giant you know monkey. Same with
koala bears. And there's probably a lot of other examples
as well.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Well do you remember the scientists, uh, when they were
first presented with a dodo bird, thought that it was
a hoax, right, that I've been made up, that people
just there's nothing that really looks like that. And if
I'm not mistaken, the same thing with the duck bill platypus. Yes,
they thought that different parts of animals had been put together.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yeah when you go to actually yeah, no, but you go.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
To the you know, you go to places in Arizona
or whatever in the desert and they have those stuff jackalopes,
Oh yeah, postcards.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Ja. I was a kid, I.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Thought they existed. So we'd be driving across country. My
folks say okay, and no, look real carefully because they're fast.
I'd be looking at you know.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
And then you go to a shop and you see it.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
There's a picture. In fact, there's a guy next to
with a gun. He shot it.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
What about chew about a cabrara cobra chup chup of
coprap of cobras?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Like the uh, those are real?

Speaker 5 (55:10):
The Boogeyman? Yeah, I mean it's no, it's the it's
the Boogeyman. It's the uh it's the Boogeyman. It's what
other mythical it's the monster under your bed.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, but there's there's something else that comes out of
New Jersey Dremaline, the New Jersey Devil or something.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Hey, our buddy Kevin just landed in San Diego.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
What Kevin?

Speaker 3 (55:34):
And he wants to know if you're going to be
at the MBHs reunion sat Mission Bay High School, Rena.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
That would be class. If that's not my class, you
guys are in different ones. This would be nineteen seventy five.
What were you seventy four?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, but I knew everybody.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Yeah, he won't be there, Kevin, Brian has no Kevin's
going to be there. He said, he's going to be there.
That's where he's going to. When is it he said,
it's it's uh, I don't know. He just wants to
know if you're going.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I mean, I knew that it was coming up.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I don't know what I mean, that's why he came
to San Diego.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
We have to take a break for Bistok Radio.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
And also says your house looks like paradise.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
We've got two more yes, it does, two more segments
coming up here on guard in America. Do you stay
with us taking a break for bistalk Radio. Okay, we
are back from that break. Actually had two more segments
until we wrap things up, so still a ways to
go here on Garden America, we've got the roving reporter
of the roving camera, John, can you pick that up
so we can see where Tiger's going?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
And uh oh yeah right there.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Oh you have to describe what Yeah, that's the camera
right there.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, you don't don't hurt yourself.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Well, what did we promise listeners that he would show
the brown building in the back, which is.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You're going, okay, so that's well, it's a gazebee in
the poolhouse or the guest house.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
You can. You can see what he's looked like, looks
what it looks like because you have the tab.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah, he's just kind of an overview of his backyard there.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
But you know, Kevin was right that it does look
like a bit of paradise. It's definitely that type of garden.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
It comes across good on camera, and.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
It's amazing what he's done. I think. Look at that fan,
Look at the tomatoes. Look look at that fan. Have
you ever seen a fence like that? Well, you know,
these tomatoes come up from seed every year.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
The How long has he been here? We had he
bought this house after we started the show.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
What year'd you buy the house? Eight years?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
About eight years, so he's done a lot in eight years.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
So really, you know, they say a picture or videos
with a thousand words, we're up to nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Wow, one hundred more to go on in his yards complete.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
And look at and look at that steady, strong wife
fi connection.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Here we go. Look at that plumbia.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Tiger. Show them your your potocarpas hedge, because when Tiger
first moved here, he planted all these photocarpus, you know,
kind of as a screen right sure, And it was
a dwarf type photocarpus, so because you don't want them
to get too huge, but because they were dwarf, they
grow grows slowly. But now after eight years they're starting

(58:28):
to fill in. They make making a really nice screen.
So much to do.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
And it's never done. It'll be no.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
And I think Tiger eight years ago was able to
get in just as the housing market was right right,
was going up. Now it's almost impossible to buy a
home with this much land in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
This is this house was built back in the day
when you know, you had a decent sized house, but
it was mostly all backyard. And here we are. There's
the return, there's the plumaria once again. So there's a
good overview of San Diego. Paradise.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Paradise Point Resort is down in the back exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
When you go out there, like you just did, do
you ever see like something new or something you didn't
notice before?

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Tiger? So you walking outside and the next day you
walk out and how long has that been there? Well,
kind of like or when did that die?

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Oh we were talking about earlier and we were talking
about the brunce Veltze No.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Friends, Vigia runs, Vigia Brinsvigia.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
You know, I knew where it was and I've seen it,
but then it disappears. Yeah, and so then sometimes I
go out there and I'm like, oh, there it is again, Yeah,
and I forget it's there.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
So yeah, that's an extremely rare bulb. Yeah. Yeah, Like
I don't know if you can find one anywhere in
San Diego. Yeah, so I mean I could be wrong.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
You know, So so yeah, I do walk out there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
I see things kind of like that I forget. So,
you know, one thing that's super funny, I wonder if
I can find it. But earlier this morning, the hummingbird
was sitting there watching us on the show, and I
look up in that banana and there's a nest. But
they strapped their nest to the leaf on the underside

(01:00:20):
of it. They actually like strapped it to it, though,
really so crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
What's that a hummingbird or oriole nest? Because orioles do that,
don't they hang their nests?

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Maybe it was an.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
They're small, but they're I don't think they're a lot
bigger than a hummingbird nest.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Yeah. No, this was definitely like the size of like
a softball, So I think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
That that's a smaller nest. I mean it sounds like
a humingbird nest. That's small.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
You know what's interesting now that we are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Hardball or softball softball oo softball? You know softball's too
big for a hummingbird.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
You said that you haven't seen an oriole since Baltimore,
going back a year now, since we've decided to feed
all the wildlife. Yeah, we're seeing birds everything that I've
never seen beforehand?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Are you orioles? Black and yellow?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
And it's only because they they have the words gotten
out that this is where you go to take a
bath in the fountain, get a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Of water, and eat.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
This is the bird spot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
So aside from the finches, the robins, the sparrows, the crows,
and anything else you can think of that's real common
in and amongst them are these birds that come.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
They got the message.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Well yeah, because it's like, well where have you been?

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
You're on some like birds on a list you know, uh,
trip advisor. Yeah, where it's like they log on and
they're they're like, where should we stop on the way
to see this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
This has four stars exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
But speaking of hummingbirds, they can be vicious. Have you
seen them fighting each other?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
By the way, there's a message for you, Brian. Yes,
Brandon Blaylock's house tonight, five o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Oh, be there, I know, Brandon Blaylock.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
You know everybody that's gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I guess I do. Yeah, where Tiger goes the nest? Oh,
he's looking for the Yeah, for the hummingbird nest.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Yeah, you know the way. I can be wrong, but
the way he's describing me, and it sounds like an
oriole nest to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
But that doesn't sound what I mean. How big is
softball or hardball?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
What did he say? How big?

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
He said softball?

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Well that's fairly large.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Yeah, hardball. It could be a hummingbird.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
But he's never seen orioles around here. Oh see, you
never know, you never know what's lurking. I remember one time,
not too long ago, Tiger, because of course, we have
a hummingbird feeder here and there, and I was putting
it back up. We just filled it up and as
I put it back up to is landing on my arm.

(01:03:01):
Oh wow, So I just stopped. I'm like, it's go
ahead and get a drink. I mean, I didn't know
what to do. And then they hopped off and jumped
on it and started drinking. But I mean, like, wow,
you're pretty gutsy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
I mean, if you've never been hurt by something, yeah,
you don't know any better. And if it and if
it's where your food is, yeah you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, there's a guy that puts the food up there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Don't you think that most animals have a natural fear
of man? Though you think so, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
I think if they've had you mean, built in instinct.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, I think we're very you're thinking like the Galopogos
where all the animals were not afraid of people because
they had never seen never seen them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
I don't think humans are scary. A bear scary, a
tiger scary.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Yeah, but there's birds that will go and crocodile's mouths
and eat and pick the teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Yeah you know, well that's relationship. But yeah, but it's different.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Don't you think they.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Grew up learning that from their parents? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
But what I'm getting at is a human is not scary,
Like we don't have like we're bigger than don't get
me wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Like there's other there are animals.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
That are scary about it, bigger our actions.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
So when you first see a human, I don't think
people are scared of them. When you you know, animals
are scared. I don't think people are scared.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
I don't think animals are scared of humans because when
you first see us, it's like, we don't have claws,
we don't have big teeth.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
It doesn't look like we.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Give an example.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
You know, I've talked about it at nauseum over the
past five or six years. The doves every year that
build their nest. Okay, at some point they had to
decide that we are not a threat because the nest
is right in front of me. I can reach up.
The motherbird sits there, her mate flies back and forth.
They raise their kids. The kids are in the patio
for the kids don't know. They're not afraid. They're not
afraid of us because this is where they grew up,

(01:04:50):
they were born there. It's after a period of time.
Now some of the other wild birds, the finches, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
You think that door gets around. Hey, they're not scary,
but they got cat if that door ever opened.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Just last door is cat TV.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, but yeah, I think there's a lot to be
said about that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
What about road runners?

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
What about them?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
You can't get near a roadrunner you look at it
and it's one hundred yards away.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
That are naturally skittish.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah, they run from everything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, especially coyotes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
They're pretty fashionship with huh. They It's not unusual to
see a road runner at my house with a lizard
in its mouth. Yeah. By the way, I've got some
bad news, you know how. I'm every finishing the landscape
in my house and up on the top where the

(01:05:47):
rose bed is, uh, is finally coming to being finished
in that area. I had a gopher and I haven't
caught a gopher in like six months.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Yeah, six months.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Yeah, I haven't had any.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Well, he what was your count up to eighty means?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
So anyways, I can't reproduce fast enough. I set the
trap last night and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
But the nice thing about it is, once you have one,
it's easy to get one at a time, to get
ten at a time as bad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
So you you basically have maybe not necessarily controlled what
you've contained.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
By the way, I was I was just thinking, I've
got to getch some ground squirrels now that are down
by the chicken coop. But I wonder if our listeners
would be interested in having guests on the show that
talks about chickens. Yeah, you know, she does coops, she
raises chickens, and she's geared for She works in San Diego,

(01:06:49):
but she's geared for a house like yours, you know
where somebody might yeah, urban chickens.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I think a lot of people are interested because I
think they kind of get intimidated by raising a chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
We're gonna take a break, all right, One more segment, guys,
how about that. That's a fast show. One more segment
coming up. We're going to take a break for BIS
Talk Radio. I'm Brian Maine, John Beg Nascar Tack at
Pala Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
This is Guard in America. Stay with us. Okay, we
are back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
As I mentioned before the break, final segment, Hour two,
BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live, some people did eventually find
us Tiger from going from one page to the other
with the link that you put in there, So thank
you for joining us.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
And and you know we were just talking before the
break about having a guest on that's gonna Chickens Chat chickens,
and I think.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
I think Carlo wants to talk about how to cook them.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's multiple uses.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I mean, I'm I'm curious.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
But I think a lot of people are intimidated by
a chicken because they think that, you know, how do
I raise it? Something they don't know, right, Like what
are things I have to be careful of? How do
I raise it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
And then and the fact that I think most people
raise chickens to have eggs, not to cook them. So
then again people are like, well, I'm actually eating a
product of this animal, so that's new to them too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Once you name it, you can't eat it. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
It's funny because our friend Kathy that had joined us today,
that was that was her saying that if she gives
something a name, she can't eat it. So the first
thing she did was name every chick that hatched.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
But she's a wonderful cook too, So I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Oh, yeah, you don't name your chickens at the nursery,
right they.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Just or do you know we name our chickens at
the nursery?

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, we don't I mean those are
eggs chickens there, and there is a difference between an
egg chicken and a meat chicken, so you know, and
meat chickens are only.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Alive for about what was it, till they're big enough
to kill?

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
I mean no, but but you don't and you don't
keep them alive longer than that because then the meat
doesn't turn as it it's not as tender, it's older
and everything else. So so there is a peak time
to uh, let's say, harvest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Those, which she can talk about that as well.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Yeah, but chickens are fun to have, and you know,
they can have personality. Yeah, and you know, I mean, yeah,
a little bit removed from your house, they have personality,
but they do have personalities.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Yeah, every animal has a personality.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
In ours are all named too, are they? Yeah. As
a matter of fact, my daughter daughter in law, when
she lived there, had put up a sign and all
their names around there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Do you have a a closer relationship with one over
any other ones?

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Like what's your favorite chicken? Who favorite chicken?

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
I don't know. There there's a few that were we
hatched ourselves after they after Michelle had left, so those
didn't get tamed. And they're afraid of you. So there's
maybe three that are like that that just take off.
But then there's others who have been there from the beginning,

(01:10:06):
like Helen and Chocubu, and they'll come up to you,
they'll lead out of your hand.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Yeah, and they follow you while you're working in the
yard if you let them out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Now, we we don't let them out because there's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
There's a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Yeah, there's a lot going up. But I would like
to make a chicken run someday. Oh yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Bet you if if you did allow them to like
cruise with you in the yard, I bet you they
would follow you around because the work you do, oh yeah,
is exactly what chickens love.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Then be free range.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
You're potting, you're doing well down there, looking for bugs
all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Yeah, down there where the roses and five gallon cans are.
And when I would let them out, yeah, I'd lift
up a pod and there'd be sou bugs under there
and they just went crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Yeah. So they would just follow you around.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yeah, and they and again they'd be free range chickens.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Except for Helen would just take off after a while,
really yeah, and go over to the neighbor's house. It's
like everybody else would stay around the coupe.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
And Tiger promised us a military flyover.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Sight.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Didn't I tell you that they would eventually find our
podcast try to shut us down, by the way, Kyle
pointed out Tiger, And and now that I think of it,
she's absolutely right. A hummingbird's nest is almost the size
of a ping pong ball. Certainly not a softball. I
think it was an oriole name, because that's that's how

(01:11:35):
they build their nests.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Okay, so keep looking for orioles.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Yeah, Brian says, since you haven't seen the orioles that
I'm probably wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
But no, I just it's interesting. If it is an
oriel nest that you have, what other birds would it be?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
I don't know, but I'll be California condos. No, don't
build nests.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Birds, very huge wingsprand I don't know birds. You're not
an ornithologist, No, that's rightiologist.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah, well, we had we've had meetings with ornithologists. Remember
Wally Cox. Wally Cox, who is so random. Only a
few people are going to appreciate that. Who would I
can't even remember his name, but he was the ornithologist
for Scots Fertilizer company.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Remember I can see his face. Yeah, yes, And we
were back touring with him, right we we.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
And he was an ex being an expert on birds.
He was working on their bird feed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
We had it so so basically different types of bird
feed or food for different regions of the country and
you put it out different times. And we went out
there and he showed us that the Yeah that was interesting. Yeah,
it would attract those birds you're looking for these birds.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Put this out right for this area. And you know,
I guess not everyone remembers, but the cheaper the bird
seed usually the less likely birds are to eat it.
Because the cheapest seed is milow and milo is a
great filler, but birds to not eat milow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Yeah, so less filler the better.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
There's a all over the news there's a huge migration
happening right now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
They were talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
No, but somebody posted that online and I wasn't going
about what migration.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
Well, there's a huge migration of birds and other like
insects and stuff happening right now on the East coast.
Because the reason why I caught my attention I remember
John would mention on how there used to be such
massive migrations sometimes that that would block out the sky.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Well, those are pigeons per pigeons.

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
But this isn't just one variety. This is a multiple
variety migration. And I'm like, wow, that's really neat that
you know, it's kind of happening.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
I hope it's neat. Hopefully it's not for a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Because of the apocalypse exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
But I'm sure that's pretty impress for birdwatchers to have
this opportunity to see these massive migrations of all these
different prides of birds.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
That's gonna do it, guys, So far, so good, So
thank you so much, Tiger. Can we do it again here? Yeah,
this is nice. Love it good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
If I'm gonna work on the America link.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Yeah, the link this week.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
See you fix one thing and then.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah it's something else, but now you fix this. But
now lick what you did over here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Hey, thank you so much for joining us those on
biz Talk Radio, Facebook Live.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
We'll do it again next weekend from some place. See
that's that's the mystery. That's the cool part about it.
We don't know where we'll be next week, but we'll
be someplace because wherever we go, there we are. John,
take care of have a great week, and enjoy the
rest of your weekend, and we'll do it again. I'm
Brian Main, John BG, NASCAR, Tucker Pella, Fox, thanks for
tuning in to gard in America.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Take care

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