Native Plant Magic with Linda Beeman - Garden America Podcast & Radio Show [2.22.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, how about that we are right on time, six
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Pella Fox, Brian Maine, Tiger's grinning. Oh we get a
little feedback going barely, but we couldn't hear. I could
barely hear that it was manageable on his own anyway.
That was John's phone. Look at Johnny's giddy. Let's let's

(00:22):
go to John. Let's toss to John. You know, I
enjoy your getting this with you.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
It con turned it louder if you want, you know,
you should be giddy. Springs here, yeah, fallse spring.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well yeah, exactly, beautiful day yesterday, full spring.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Is that he said?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Fall spring? Forty seven degrees on the way in this morning? Clear,
crystal clear, not a cloud in the sky.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Really. Yeah, I feel like I was like in a
cloud this morning. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
That's just you walking around normally. That's that's your reality.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's the difference between in London coast exactly. You know,
we're on the north side of the fifteen.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Makes so the difference that makes a difference. Yeah, it's
a big freeway.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And it's funny how you know Inland usually sunny, the coast,
the beaches cloudy all day.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
They've got night in morning low clouds.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
It is, it's mostly sunny. Yeah. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
What was always something really interesting though, was growing up
in Lakeside, which is East County, San Diego. Probably as
you drive maybe thirty minutes to the beach, okay, it
would be ninety five and sunny eight o'clock in the
morning out there, and be like, we're gonna go to
the beach to yeah, because it is hot here, We're

(01:34):
going to get to the beach. And when you arrive
at the beach, cold sixty eight, cloudy in windy yep,
and it was not nice.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Maybe it would barely clear up little bit the sun. Yeah,
But and then when it is sunny all day at
the beach, it's wonderful. Now. Lakeside very interesting because I
grew up in Pacific Beach, so we're opposite ends of
the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I kind of picture Lakeside, I don't know, maybe a
couple of goats running around the backyard, a couple, you know,
a little more not farmy, but.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's very farmy. I mean for San Diego County. I
mean people, you know, people talk about Fallbrook in the
North County area Inland's area being being you know, the
largest collection of small farms you know, in the state,
if not in the country, but it's it's plant farms

(02:29):
up there in that area where Lakeside, I feel has
more animal farms. You know, there's actually a dairy out there.
People do have horses, people do have goats and and
chickens and all that other stuff. You know. Obviously it's
grown a little bit now, but definitely very farming. Definitely,
you forgot the meth labs that was you know, hey,

(02:50):
when you're out there in the hills, you need to
make some money.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Do you know what the number one industry in San
Diego County?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yes, is is agriculture, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, in a way, it's nursery products.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Ornamental agriculture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Huh isn't that surprising?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah? I'm a little taken this to me.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
You would think it would be some crop but like
avocados or something.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
But I mean, yeah, it probably was at one point time.
But you know, I'm wondering if that's changing because you know,
the big reason why that that fact was true was
because you know number one ECHI used to be here,
which was the largest producer of points set he is
in the world for a lot of time. You know,
they pretty much owned Encinitas the whole area. Everywhere you go,

(03:39):
you saw great farms, right, yeah, exactly. And then you
know number two, you know in plants is here in
their Fallbrook Vista.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Northern County, probably the largest grower in the country.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Right I would say that they're probably the larges grow
in the country now, yeah, you know, so so almonds
being here. And then number three was you know an
Altmans owns them? Now was was plug Connection or was
Proven Winners bigger? Then you know who who was bigger?
Plug Connection? Are proven Winners?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well proven? Are you talking about proving euro America? Sorry?
I think euro American might have been at one time,
uh huh, but overall it was plug Connection.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah. So then having you know, having those all but
they're all owned by Altmans now, so we used to
have three of the biggest growers in the country and
now they're all under one. Now they're all one, yeah,
which which is amazing. And then and then you go
into our companies like Party Trees ver Day, which all
do large specimen you know where they you know, have

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huge acres of fifteen gallon twenty four.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Speaking of swallowing up other businesses, how's your little acquisition
coming along?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
It's coming along, it's coming along on you know, it's
moving moving forward. No, no huge bump knock on wood.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I mean you're going there and like, no, get rid
of waste, or oh maybe get rid of this person.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Or oh yeah, oh yeah, or it's really popular nowadays.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Why why are we doing this?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Oh? Definitely? I mean you know, anytime there's a business acquisition, right,
you got to you know, go through and see what's
what you're heavy on and what you need to kind of.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
See a terrible should I use it?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
You're weing, weeding, weeding out, weeding out. Ok, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
And now that's North County elect John's area.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah yeah, Fallbrook area, North County area. But you know, yeah,
hopefully within a few months things will be fully settled
down and you know, kind of moving from You.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Didn't change the name, right, we did did, so we're all.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's under all under the eco gardeners.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, I just didn't know if it was a subsidiary.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
You're mad your it's just going to be eco gardeners.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yes, John, I'm just wondering. You know, I love all
our listeners, right, We really appreciate them. Otherwise we'd just
be sitting here talking to ourselves. However, however, uh, they
all have their own sense of humor, which is great.
We like that, right And anyway, Veronica on Spring Valley

(06:13):
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to subscribe to it. It's worth every penny. So I'm
not sure. Does she really like the newsletter and think it's.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's it's very valuable information. Yeah. The fact that it
costs zero.

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Dollars doesn't cost me anything, so it's worth nothing.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, but it's true.

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It is true.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I went onto the website this morning briefly, and right
there sign up for the newsletter. It's on the It's
on the main page. I didn't even have to look
for it. It jumped down at me. I love right
hand corner.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I believe I love seeing John's motivation too. Sometimes, and
every once in a while he'll go through these spurred
spurts of motivation. You know, and he you know, he
got onto this new program that allows him to create images,
and I'm I've seen this whole new like motivation to
create articles and articles and I only put one this week.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
One one picture this week that I create.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I like seeing you know how excited you get for them.
And then because I mean number.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
One that you don't have to do the newsletter, I.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Do love that. But no, but I I really do
like the articles because they've they they're interesting, and they're
fun and you find out something new, and you know,
I feel like you've gotten this spurt of energy again
to create new one.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
He's like, I am, you find something you like, like
a new toy and you want to use it. Now,
this one had what do you have around it in
this newsletter?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I have it right?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
You had some graphics all the way.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Around the border of the news.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Look, yes, exactly where did it go? You know?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I have to it. I've kept the background the same
for a few weeks, so this week I changed. Yeah,
I noticed it right away, But normally when I change it,
I'm thinking about you.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
What's he going to think about? Is he going to
notice it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, because you do notice it, you pick up on everything,
little details.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, I can't see the background in this one.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, it depends on bigger screen.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
You usually can't see it on the phone.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, I'll shoot bummer, Carlo.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Speaking of the newsletter while we're on it, Carla wanted
to know if I wrote an article on new veggie varieties,
and she wanted to know if they're available as plants
or seeds only. Most of those probably only seed, but
there might be a few that if you go to

(08:45):
your local garden center you'll find, you know, maybe in
her area, green Thumb. Some of the independents. I would
doubt if the box stores would carry them, but possibly.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, Usually they don't go into mass products until a
little bit later. But yeah, the independence will get things
a little earlier.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So we have just about a minute or so. We've
got to tease our get well, not physically tease our guests,
but tease our listeners and viewers who the guest is
going to be. Then we have the quote of the week.
Let's talk about the Let's do the quote first, Yeah, John,
quote of the week ahead.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know, I can't remember if this is a new quote.
I know I've used it, Amar, Okay, but it was
from our good buddy Rachel Carson.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Well, if it's apropoet doesn't matter, does.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
It has nothing to do with that propost Brian. It
says those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find
reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
That quote again, Yes, it's a good quote. It's so true,
and I think it is apropos as well. Okay, how
quickly can we talk about our guests to Attager?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Coming up after the break, author Linda Beeman is going
to be joining us to talk about her book that
she wrote, A W'd be Botanical.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
And why is this book a little different than maybe
other books.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, it's a really interesting poetry book that has to
do with plans, and I just like her connection that
she's made with poetry and the plants themselves.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
The whole roses are red thing, and we're going to
get into that.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Or there are no rows. There is not a rose
poem in this book.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Okay, you hain't all right? John? Quickly?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, well quickly. At a tattoo parlor they had one
of those signs outside where you can you.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Get another tattoo this week? Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, no, where you can you can put sayings up right?
So on Valentine's Day they had roses are red, violets
are blue. Blah blah blah tattoo.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
All right, it is break time for BIS Talk Radio
Facebook Live. We're going to get ahold of our guests
and be right back after these messages. Welcome all those
tuned in on Facebook of course and BIS Talk Radio.
This is Garden America. Well we're back from the break.
That's obvious if you're watching us on the Facebook Live.
We're even listening to us on BIZ Talk Radio Garden America.
Thank you for joining us. Happy weekend. Brian Main, John

(10:58):
Begnasco Tiger Peller Fox. Our guest is ready to go.
This is gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Tiger, Oh yeah, good time. And Linda Beeman in his
an award winning poet living in on Widby Island in
the Pujig Sound. Do you know where the Puget Sound is?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Puget Sound is up in Washington, I think right off.
You know the bunch of islands up there. Yeah, you've
got the British Columbia, Washington. You've got orches up there.
It's a great place.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I mean, got to be magical, right, now all that stuff.
So anyway, she is joining us this morning from up there. Linda,
good morning, thanks for joining the program.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Good morning, Tiger, How.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Are you good.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
How's the weather up there right now?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Great? And we're expecting a lot of rain over the weekend.
Don't be surprised to hear.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh yeah, how unusual for you guys to get rained
righthcky Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah. So so Linda, you know, you you wrote this
isn't your only book. You've wrote other poetry books, right Wallace, Idaho,
Collateral Damage, But this is your first book that you've
geared towards plants. Is that true?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yes, that's that's true. You know, but last year was
kind of an anxious year for me, so I was
looking for something that I could focus on that would
be really calming, and these plants just came up, one
by one. So I was trying to, as I say,

(12:23):
just focus on each one and think about them a
little bit more deeply.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah. Now, you know these plants in the book. Let
me first off, A would be botanical is the name
of the book. And you know you've got a full
list of them here in the front, hellbores, snowdrops, crocus,
you know, snakehead, lily's wood, violets, and these are plants

(12:48):
that you actually see where you live.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Correct, that's true. I live on five acres in a
wooded area that was logged long time ago, so it
has some sort of figure eight open spaces where the
logging roads would go up and down toward h toward
a creek that would harbors them out. So there's lots

(13:14):
I'm looking out my window now and there's lots of
green around me.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, and and so you know when you were creating
this these poems about these specific plants. You know, first off,
before we get into the specific poems, you know, where
where does your motivation for poetry come from? Because you know,
you you your other books as I listed, you know, Wallace, Idaho,

(13:41):
that is an homage to your hometown. You know, Collateral
Damage was you know, for those that were scarred by
the Afghan War. And you know this one is kind
of plants. Like, where does this motivation come from to
write these groups or series of poems?

Speaker 4 (13:58):
So that's an interesting question. I think poetry is just
sort of the way I process experience. You know, we
all spend times in our own minds reflecting over what
has happened to.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Us, and Linda, could you speak up just a little
bit for us having a little bit of problem with
the audio.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Oh that's wonderful.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah. So I was just saying that poetry is just
the way I process experience. I think all of us
reflect on what happens to us in our own lives,
and if we don't want to keep holding it in,
we have to do something with it. And for me,
that's writing poems about it.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
And is this something you went to school for have
always done or is this something you found later in life.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
It's not something I went to school for, although I started,
I think started writing poems when I was in about
the sixth grade. They were some really bad stuff there.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
So so you've just always had the interest in poetry, then,
you know, it's not really something that you focused on
as a career or like you say, went to school for.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
No, definitely didn't focus on it as a career. And
and and I also appreciate, you know, most people think
they don't understand poetry. And I emphasized with someone there
there are a lot of poets who I find just

(15:38):
incomprehensible but I think my poems are fairly straightforward and simple,
and uh, I think I think I think they maybe
connect with people more than some other poets might.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, well, you know, and I and I do agree
with that comment because you know the term that I
you know, when you and I talked earlier this week
kind of talking about your book, is you know, the
poems that you've created about these plants teach us such
wonderful things about the plants, whether it's the attribute of
the plant, or where it grows, or how it looks,

(16:20):
you know, the colors that you know, it creates that
it's almost like a textbook for plants, but actually interesting
to read because you know, a textbook is going to say, oh,
this is the name of the plant, this is the
color of the flower, this is how many petals it has.
But you've done that in a creative way that puts
that information into a poem. I mean. The description of

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the book, I'll read it off at the back. Here
is a widby Botanical carries you through the growing season
of the Pacific Northwest via poetry, watercolors, and folklore description
of the plants. It will draw you into a year
of salish see woodlands surprise you with healing properties and
other elements of flora in your gardens and inspire your

(17:07):
wonder And you know, you kind of told me it
was really interesting for you to find out information about
these plants as well, right, Like part of part of
this was not just you doing poetry, but you growing
as a plants person.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yes, I think you know. The watercolors, the paintings sort
of give them more straightforward presentation about the various plants.
But what I was looking for as I was thinking
about them was folklore or unusual properties or something womensical

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that would grab your attention. And that was that was
really wonderful to research. There's so many odd things about
truly any plants that you might be familiar with that
I just found out a delight.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, and you know, I mean, you know in your
area and your region where you know there was a
large a Native of American population that's kind of been
there for a long time. I mean, their use of
medicinal plants, their use of plants for shelter or eating.
You know, there's so many fun things. How much more
time do we have? Got a minute before our first break?

(18:30):
There there's one poem I'm going to read here and
it's it's it's about the red cedar here, Linda, and
it's Western red cedars watch over us through Oh though
cedar is a masquerade, they are really Cyprus in disguise.
Thuya plakata seem like spirits giving their all in canoes, totems, shingles, baskets, flutes,

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Whipping branches in winter storms offer arboreal reassurance during high
wind advisories, cyclobe bombs, when beaver moon rotations signal colonies
to gather twigs and moss for their lodges. When summer
drought rusts intercedar sprays that pace themselves to our windshields,

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they tower over us, sheltering keeping those pesky alders in line.
And then you know, you have this whole other, you know,
description of the Thuia placata and a little bit more information.
They can grow over two hundred feet live for a
thousand years. I mean, like I say, like, it's a
really interesting way to learn about these plants. And when
we get back from the break, we're going to continue

(19:38):
chatting with Linda Beeman about her book, A wid be Botanical.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
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We have a comment and we're going to keep on
cruising on with Lindau John.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Do you have Carla's comment right in front?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I do. Linda, Carla in Huntington Beach, says that she's
always wanted to visit Wouldbe Island, and she's only seen
it from a distance, but it looks so charming, she said,
she can imagine that it does inspire poetry.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
And it does. And I think one of the things
that most people who live here feel. You have to
take a fifteen minute fairy ride from Ebert, Washington to
get here on the South end anyway, and you can
always feel driving onto the ferry, Oh thank god. It's

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just really a lovely coming home feeling.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh. And you know, before the break, I had read
your poem that you had written about the Red Cedars,
and then you know you have an associated water color picture.
I'm gonna I'm gonna hold it up to our camera
here in studio Lindas so people.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Can have a camera there.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah. Oh yeah, so people can kind of see the
book and how it's kind of laid out. Now, was
this the first book you've published?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
No, I mean no, but I mean not the first
book you published. But you know, is are the other
ones available? Also?

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Oh yeah, this one as well as others on Amazon
dot Com obviously, or for people who like to buy
from independent booksellers. They're available at Moon Baker Books in Langley, Washington.
And I can give you that information if you'd like.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, well, what I'll do is I'll get some information
up and we'll share it onto our our Facebook feed
as well. Perfect, you know the watercolors, tell us a
little bit about your background, you know, because I mean,
you know poetry, watercolors. You know, how did you get
started in that as well?

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Gosh, my background is pretty checkered, checker, join the club.
It involves a lot of work for political figures and
as a small retail business owner and as I for
years I was the founding editor of a newsletter for

(22:28):
antique walking stick collectures, and I had an old textile
gallery also in Seattle. So I think I'm just curious
about the world actually, And again, as I say, poetry
and painting helps you to see yourself better and helps

(22:49):
you to see the exterior world better as well.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, Linda, I don't know if you know this, but
in studio with us here we also have an author,
John has written a series of books. What what was
your first book, John?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Is a house plant? Yeah, back and Executy.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
It was Plants for the Home volume one?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, yeah, so so did you ye, she knows.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
But but I mean, did you put these house wentz
into poems? John?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
You know a lot of people just think that my
writing is poetry itself.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Is that that? Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
No, No, I did not. I used to write poetry though,
but I never published any of it. And I really
admire are Linda's efforts at what she's done and and
like you said, taking botanical terms and horticultural knowledge. Yeah,

(23:56):
you know, I had mentioned roses read was about as
far as I could get. But yeah, I really appreciate
what she's done. And I've always admired people that could paint.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, especially watercolor.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, painting is is, Yeah, watercolors when I see them,
I'm just amazed because.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
And because for me, watercolors they just come out a
big blob. So if so, if you can actually make
out the plant or or what you're painting with water colors,
it's really impressive, Linda, because definitely, I definitely could do
nothing of this sort. It just looks like a mosaic thing.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
One of our listeners when we were up in Chico
gave Prus and Sharon and myself a watercolor painting of Amarillis.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And I have this hanging up in my house today,
and I think Sharon has hers hanging up also.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Is it in your in your library?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
No, it's it' in the living room. No, it's it
hangs over the the anti cutch that my or secretary
desk that my wife refinished, hangs over the top.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Beautiful. So so, Linda, when it came to you know
these plants in the book too, did it inspire you
and to do more gardening as well? Me?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I'm I'm I'm actually working on a park. Oh. I
bought a vacant lot in a little city named Langley
near where I live here, and uh, thinking I would
build a house there eventually, and that's not going to
be happening. So I decided what I would do in

(25:48):
the meantime anyway, was to make a little park for
people in that neighborhood. And that's been a really interesting
experience because it's a much sunnier and dryer situation than
I have here, and I have to cope with black
tailed deer and bunnies and gritters without being able to

(26:13):
be there, you know, on a permanent basis.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
So are you trying to incorporate some of the native
flowers and plants there into that park setting, not.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Necessarily working with natives, but working with things that are
drought resistant and deer resistant and that can withstand a
lot of right light.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Well, I don't know if you knew this, Linda, but
this just came out. I just saw it this week.
Let's see if it has a date on this article.
It doesn't have one right now. But there was a
new plant discovery, which which is kind of a big
deal for us in the plant world because there's not
a lot of new plants, and this might be a

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deer resistant plant, even though I think part of the
name has to do with deer. But it's in where
did I say? It was John big Ben in Big
National Park in Texas, And it's the Avicula baradiada and
it's a small fuzzy leaf. The the other the scientist

(27:23):
is also gaming, gave it the name wooly devil because
because it's got a fuzzy, fuzzy leaf. But you know,
you've got a new, uh new plant to write a
poem about, then, yeah, you know right there, You're finding
new plants every day and you can describe it. But
you know, this one, because it has a fuzzy leaf,

(27:45):
might be deer resistant as well. I don't know a
lot of a lot of plants that have that fuzzy
texture are resistant to deer.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
I didn't know that. I know, usually it's smell that
repels I think de.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, isn't that? Isn't that funny that some of the
best fragrance plants to us are the ones that the
deers stay away from, right yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Tiger Kevin and Courtlaine Idaho was wondering what some of
the greatest influences in Lynda's life work, or who some
of the greatest influences in her life were.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
You know, I grew up very close to Cordelaine. Wallace
is just about thirty miles away, so I'm interested that
he would he would be asking that question. And Wallace,
which is most of you won't you won't know, but
is a really gritty little mining town silver lead and zinc,
and it's fallen on hard times like a lot of

(28:46):
mining areas have. But I think it shaped me in
an interesting way. It made me a little bit more
of a risk taker. Maybe then I might have been otherwise.
It was just kind of a challenging place to grow up,

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and it was it was actually a place I wanted
to leave early on as well.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah so maybe so Wallace definitely shaved who you are.
Huh so, because Kevin was asking who kind of inspired
right Wallace? But yeah, so the Walla is here, the
town you were from kind of shaved who you are
in a lot of ways. Hey, hey, Linda, we are
going to take a quick break. When we get back

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from the break, we're going to wrap up chatting here
with Linda Beeman, the author of the would be Botanical.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yes, indeed, a song comes to mind, an old song
john You might remember Poetry in Motion, and I believe
that was Johnny Tillotson.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You know there's a rose called poetry in motion.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Boy, look at this. We've expanded into other areas here.
We are going to take a break. If Tuger mentioned
this is Garden America breaking from BizTalk Radio Facebook Live.
Do stay with us after these messages. Okay, we are back, obviously,
And for those on BIS talk Radio, this is the
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six minutes after. Hopefully you can catch our second hour
in your market. Here Garden America as we continue with
plans and backgrounds, history, poetry, watercolors, you name it, tiger Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And joining us this morning Linda Beeman, author poet, a
Gardner Park creator. Yeah, just everything, huh. And and so
I posted the link for people to be able to
get the book on Amazon Linda and find out a
little bit more information. It also has the link to
your to the other books that you've written, any books

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in the works for the future.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Not right off hand. Usually it takes a while to
kind of you know, finish something up, take a broa
and then something else will come along. In life. That's
Sue wantto something else, but so far right now. No,
Mostly what I'm involved right now is is, as I say,

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working on that little bacont lot and talking to folks
like you.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
That's super fun that you're doing that, right you know.
That is something that I I always find interesting and
I always find intriguing when when people can work on
a situation for opening it up to the public for
other people to enjoy. There's you know, there's that scene
from notting Hill, the movie Notting Hill, Julie Roberts, Hugh
Grant and they they they live in England where they

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have these little areas where these are parks embedded in
to the neighborhood that have like these private gates. And
I'm always like, that's that would be really interesting to me.
It's you know, kind of like the secret Garden or
or something like that. So that's what I'm envisioning your park,
but probably not like that, but that's what that's That's
what it is in my eyes, Linda.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And in the future, I envision a park bench there
with Linda's name on it and a plaque to forever
remember her and what she did.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Park bench and a deer eating the plants right next exactly, Yeah,
as she's a statue of her shoeing them away. Oh well, well,
you know, lots of fun stuff. Thanks for joining us
this morning, Linda. Good luck with the weather. So so
is this storm heading your way normal for you? Or
is this more rain?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
And so not? Not so far, but yeah, well we'll
hope for the best.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, well hope for Thank you.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Guys so much for giving me this opportunity. I really
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh, we appreciate what joining us. You take care when Linda,
have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Bye bye now bye bye.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thank you. Yeah. Well that's you know, it was different,
but a good different, And I know that our listeners
and viewers got a kick out of that with you know,
I don't, I guess there would. Quirky's kind of good
the watercolors and how she weaves together plants and creates
poetry based upon facts about various plants. So I found
that I liked it. That was great.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
You know. The thing that she I didn't mention, but
she said was just it was so fun learning to her.
It was so fun learning about the little the history
of the plants, little stories behind why the plants have
their name right or different things like that. And that
is so true. And you know a lot of plant

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books are a lot of fun to read because of
that information. You know, it's number one, it's a little
bit of history. Number two, even a little bit of
adventure that goes along with it. But then to put
it in with poetry.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, I liked your question about Okay, now that you've
researched these plants and you got into it, are you
becoming a are you going to grow plants? Are you
going to get into that? And she was a little evasive,
so all I don't know, but it's interesting how she
took this this left turn in life into something that
we don't know how much of a background she had
before and created something like this.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
And again the watercolor thing, I remember, I think the
last time my watercolored was in first grade. And and
just I've always been enamored by people who can actually
take a brush and just kind of dab here and
there and create something because like you, to me, it
looks like a mess. I can sketch something kind of
a pencil. I feel more in control with other ways,

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more of a finger painting, finger painting in fact, I
have a lot of finger paintings hanging up.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Dana puts a star on itator.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Boy with the refrigerator magnet boy.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
You know what, I'm interested in John's poetry.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
You got it?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Instead of a quote of the week, he needs to
be starting to put in the week.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You know they you know what it's we're tapping into
a sensitive side.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Of Yeah, I'm excited to hear about it.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
They they were kind of dark poems. Really really, you're
one of those Nascar As a matter of fact, people
kept People would tell me because I would share my
poetry with my friends and stuff, and people would say,

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don't you ever write anything that's uplifting or happy? So
I wrote a poem once called happy Poem.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And it was the darkest one of them all.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, it started out good, it was. I never wrote
a happy poem. I think I will, just to show
him that I can.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That is wonderful. That is John.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
That's great, that is John. I you know a lot
of people don't know this, but and I do poke
fun at John writing you know, House Plants volume one,
but he does.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Did take the pictures for volume two.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
He does write like fiction. He does write stories. He
does write more than just a text book verbiage, you know,
story kind of a thing. So you know, there is
a very creative side to him. People don't know that
try to keep it hidden, he does.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I like how he responded with the poetry that he
came back with being accused of being this and then
writing something to yeah, to almost even exemplify that what
you're doing is definitely dark, but with a tinge of humor.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, you know, it used to be that I would
only write poetry, similar to what Linda does. You know,
it's kind of a release and and I really only
wrote poetry to get rid of the you know, the
teenage troubles that I was having. Oh really, yeah, So
so you know, once I met my wife, got married,

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and became a Christian, I wasn't unhappy anymore, you know,
So I never wrote poetry.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Your story reflects thousands of people who do the same thing,
that needed an outlet based upon what's happening in their life.
And I think, you know, whether it's writing a song
or poetry, because you need something to inspire you. And
that's probably why I never was able to write anything
that was worth anything, because I had a happy life
I didn't have a I didn't have a reason.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, you didn't have trouble.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I didn't have anything to inspire me or to cause
me to go into a certain direction to be creative.
But that that's very interesting that it's it's like somebody
who drinks, you know, they're having a hard time in life,
They're going to turn to alcohol or drugs, and that's
I guess that is what inspires them, Yeah, to dull
the pain or whatever. Because I've tried to sit down
and write things, and not recently, but.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I remember good captions.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, captions I could do. I can do. Actually, I
can write poetry. It's not dark, it's probably silly, but
I will take a real life situation. I you know,
I I did something probably five or six years ago.
If I find it, I'll play it for you in
one hour. I wrote, recorded, and produced or wraps with

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music and everything.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Really and was it a serious one or was it
a goofy?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
It was reflecting. It reflected the times and what was
going on in the news and the world at the time,
and with the plight of what was happening in America.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
And I kind of surprised myself because I played it
for somebody and they went, that's you, and I went, yeah,
but I was inspired. Getting back to what John said,
I think just sitting down and trying to force something
doesn't usually work.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
You know. You know it's funny that you you mentioned that,
because there's a whole study, you know, with that whole idea,
you know, the Renaissance, the guilded Age, you know, all
this stuff with that word moments in history, that creation,
like this creative.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
We got to take a break women. Oh no, I'm sorry,
did we Yeah, you got to take a break. I'm
off kilter. We get so involved. You know, this is
going to be interesting for them to get anyway. News
coming up top of the hour, Bistalk Radio back on
the other side here on Garden America. After getting off
kilter with the format clock prior to the news break
on BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live, we are back now

(39:01):
and I promised to stay on time. The network will
have some editing to do, but that's okay. We are
back and we were getting inspired about poetry. And let
me quickly say it and hold that thought. Okay. I
remember in fourth grade they taught us haiku poetry.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Oh yeah, I remember, and it doesn't have to rhyme, right, No,
it doesn't rhyme.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
It doesn't rhyme.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's the number of syllables.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
So interesting that in the six years of elementary school
maybe seven county in kindergarten, that's certain things you remember
the rest of your life. And for the life of me,
I don't remember or don't even know why that made
such an impact on me. And the teacher was mister
bot Bott Haiku poetry to fourth graders.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Hey, and you remember it today, Yes, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
And I do remember. Doesn't rhyme, it's syllables.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
What's your favorite haiku? I know you like to keep
that stuff private, you know, you know I.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Think my favorite haikup is haiku.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
To be honest, you just like saying the name.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I do.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Carla pointed out that I still do write poetry, which
I really wasn't thinking of is serious poetry. But but yeah,
she said, I put him in the newsletter, and I did.
I wrote, uh, kind of a parody of the Night
before Christmas and put it in the newsletter.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Now see, I can do things like that because you've
already got the template, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, it's like, okay, let's not creating from scratch.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Well, the same thing now here's when it comes to music.
If you're going to write poetry or write a song,
the words are already there, the letters are there. You
just grab what already exist. But coming up with an
original melody.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, I always felt that the most important part of
a song were the words, because if you don't have words,
it's music.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
But you have words available to you that you put
together to write that song. Yeah, But where does the
melody come from? It comes from within?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, in that I couldn't. I can't even imagine melodies
in my head, and I know you.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Do, well, not really. I do recall a story that
Paul McCartney talked about years ago with a song Yesterday,
that he woke up and the melody was in his
head and it was so obvious to him that he
went around saying, Hey, have you heard this? Nope, have
you heard this? Has somebody already done this? And at

(41:33):
the time that he was going through it, he called
the song scrambled Eggs because it was just kind of
all over the place, but he had the melody. Once
he realized it hadn't been done before, then he put
the words to it, but the melody came first.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
But again and that's where hay Jude came from.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Hey Jude was about John Lennon's son, Julian, and the
divorce that John Lennon and Cynthia went through and how
he was sort of the yeah, the the child that
was exposed to that he was what he got collateral damage.
And so instead of Hey Julian, it was Hey Jude,
any other trivia you want.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
To know you're good on music trivia?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I can.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I can also tell you real quick and then we'll
move on that. Uh, you know the song let it be,
Mother Mary comes to me, Well most people think the
Virgin Mary. It was his mother and that was a dream. Also.
He was going through a lot of tumultuous times in
his life and in the dream she said just just
calm down, let it be. So again, you know what,

(42:39):
that's good, Something will happen.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
That's Brian's dad's quote.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
No matter what the situation, let it be. What say,
just said, hey, relax, just let things go, let it be.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Then your dad comes.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
My dad would come along and say something will happen.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well that's a tangent, very creative tangent.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
But now how can we we we've gardening around that. John.
This is where John comes in. He's very good about this.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Well, you know people who grow playing.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I know what you were going to say, Beatles, Apple records.
I get that was good.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Actually there wasn't even anywhere near my brain but mine.
Go ahead, Yeah, but I can see how you would
say that. I was going to just quickly mention that
being creative takes other forms than writing or poetry or painting. Gardening,
to me is another form of expressing yourself.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh absolutely, well sure, because you're demonstrating your creativity when
you go to somebody's garden. Yeah, you know I would
go to Tiger or you would, or like when Bruce
was an architectural designer, and say this is what I want.
So so what I would do, much like somebody who
comes to me and what's a commercial? I go, I
get it. Let me come up with something. So I

(43:57):
go to Tiger. You go to Tiger, this is what
I'm thinking, and then allow him to have the creativity
to draw it up or create it, and then you've
displayed it and then you show people and somebody else
might say I wouldn't have done that. Well, no, but
I did it. This was my creativity or what did
you get the inspiration from? Like a Japanese garden?

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Like that's completely different.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, go along with your comment about Paul McCartney having
this music in his head, right, I know, Veronica, Yeah,
she said that Handel's Messiah came to him as music first.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, they were very if you think about everything they did,
they were in their twenties. I don't know what you
were doing in your twenties, but the inspiration. As a
matter of fact, here we go again, because you've got
me off on a tangent. You know, when I'm sixty four,
when I get oh, he wrote that when he was
sixteen years old? Who thinks about that at sixteen? If

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you know the song, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
but just amazing. I guess you're born with it.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
You know what? It comes to my mind when I
hear that song when I'm sixty.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Four, Like that was a while back.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
It's like, well that was eleven years ago, young guy.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, anyway, you still need me.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Hey, Kevin, one of our listeners posted a neat fact
and I just found this interesting because anybody that knows
this tool. I figured it came from someone's name. I
just didn't know this story. But Pulaski's tunnel is in Wallace.
Is that Idaho? Is that where they were saying, Wallace, Idaho?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Right, not too far from quadline, right right, thirty minutes.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
From the Big Burn fire from the nineteen ten They
named the firefighting tool Pulaski after him. And for those
of you that don't know what a.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Pulaski is, it is a a axe with a flat
pick on the back of it. So firefighters use that
for woodland fires and also in firefighting. They'll keep it
on the fire truck for for even home fires. But
I didn't I've always known that was the name of

(46:12):
the tool, and I figured it was someone's name, but
I never knew the story behind it.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I would have thought that it was like a corruption
of the name poule X.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Oh yeah, okay, mind works a little differently.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Linda in reading says that letting it be requires patients. Yes,
like waiting until the soil warms up enough to plant.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Oh that patience for sure, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I've never had. I'm better now, but my whole life
I've had to work on patients. Oh, me too, because
I want it. I wanted it fifteen minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, so my wife does.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
She's the nurse practitioner.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I told you when I was a kid, and I
remember this, if I wanted something, my parents would say, Okay,
well we'll see yeah, and I'd wait about ten minutes
and go, when are we going to see what? No,
you said we'd see what are we going to see?
Very literal, you said we'd see.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I said, that's Isaac all the time. I think he's
getting to know we'll see that. That means I'm blowing
him off.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Now, how about it. There's another one. You can say
to him, well someday, yeah, and then he'll say when
someday gonna happen?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
My oldest son was always very literal. Literal also, and
and I remember telling him we were gonna, you know, tomorrow.
He kept wanting to go somewhere. I forget where it was,
and I said, okay, we'll go tomorrow. And then that
did the next day came and he said, okay, we're

(47:40):
going to go to the beach or whatever it was.
And I go, No, I said, We've got some stuff
that came up. We'll go tomorrow and he goes today
is tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, what, that's very good. That's good, that's very good. Hey,
do we have something from Kevin we need to read here?

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, he says, we have aspens growing in our backyard. Uh,
they are trouble, trouble and more trouble to clean up
and then pull the new baby sprouts growing everywhere. But
we love them very much and wouldn't remove them. Is
there a poem about aspens? Now? I feel aspens grow

(48:17):
in groups, right, John?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
The largest plant in the world is an act. Did
we talk about We talked about.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
The most beautiful aspens are in northern Arizona. We have
to go up and sit and walk amongst the aspens.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
And they're protected there because they're finding some of the
population of them is diminishing. And it's because people. They're
not individual trees. They're all connected, right, And so when
you have a grove that's all one plant. And you know,
as John mentioned, that's considered the largest plant in the world,
it's it's a forest, like, it's not a plant.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Right, that's exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Remember where it's at I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I think it's in Utah.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, we got to take a break real quick here, Yeah,
Northern Arizona, Utah aspens quick break here, Biss Talk Radio,
Garden America, Happy weekend to you, Brian Maine, John Begnasco Target, Pelafox.
It's Garden America. We're back from the break. We're talking aspens. Well,
I want to talk aspens with you.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
But Kevin's comment about aspens, I think he said, you know,
they're just messy and very they're they're not fun to
deal with. And we're here where aspens will not grow
and we only dream right of having an aspen tree
just the wind blowing through them. What did you say?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
How about the color? How about the car too? John? Right?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Well, the quaking aspen is a populous tremuloids.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yeah, and just the ship everybody talked about, Oh the
leaves blowing, you know, through the wind and all that.
And then here's Kevin who's like, I want him out
of my yard. There pain in my rear, you know.
And it's funny because.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I didn't say that. He said they love him and
they want to remove them.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
But it's he's talking about high maintenance, right, more or less.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
But people are high maintenance.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Don't get rid of it all depends on where you live,
because you know, we talk about this where you know
people you know that are in tropical regions. You know,
they got a plumri and they got to hack it
back and pathos growing up their trees and taking over everything,
and we're amazed by it that it can grow there
and do wonderful things. So it's just funny that depending

(50:22):
on where you live, is the plant is a pest
or not.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And it's not unique to you because it's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, you know what I'm since you mentioned plumria, I'm
hoping my plumeria leaf out this year.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Do you think they will, Like you think they just
took a year off.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well it was a traumatic yere fine, you know most
of them died, Yeah, exactly so, but those four years
so you're saying the ones that survived, I thought you
were thinking like these other ones were gonna miraculously come back. No. No,
if you have a dead plumria, its rotted, right, it
just falls over. You know, there's no chance it'll come back.

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But I have a couple that I think will are
still alive and we'll come back.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I have a whole group that I need to plant
in the ground. I've run out of the whole groups.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, when is the plumeria show the cuttings the cuttings one.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Oh good question, because we did the we went to
the plant plant.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
That was in October? It was it, Yeah, it was October.
We were right in Balbula Park.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Was it October or was it before this, like September?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It could have been September, October. I was thinking September Stember. Yeah, right, Yeah,
October is getting kind of like, but yeah, it could
have been.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
But the cutting one would be.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
I'm thinking March.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
That's or April. I feel like I remember seeing the date.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
We'll have to look that up.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, but yeah, so so plants depending on where you're at,
you know, And it's funny because you know, there's a
lot of groundcover plants, like plants that you know, people
use for like lawn substitutes or or covering hillsides, and
you know, those can be very invasive in certain areas.

(52:12):
So the wrong plant in the wrong place could be
very invasive. And so that's always a funny, A funny
plant to me that when people are looking for you know,
they they have difference of opinions and options because they
could get very you know, tangled in your plants. They
can choke everything else out depending on where you where

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they are native to and where they grow quickly. What
was the one could could zoo cut zoo And that's
like the south and in the south southeast, right, isn't
it just like taking over a whole?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
What did you have growing on your wall at your
old house?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Cats?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You said you said you wish you had you would
you would rather have ivy than that. Yeah, given the choice,
and I don't like right exactly.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, that's just.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Did you actually get it out? I move? You left
it there for the buyer.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
That's the only way I could.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
So easy to take care of. Joh don't have to
do a thing.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
John goes back to visit that house. It's covered.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Where's the house? It's under the cat's claw.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
You know, you mentioned something that I think would make
a good book, and actually a good book for you
to write, okay, because it could be a lot of pictures. Yes,
photographs would be important, but wrong plant, wrong place.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
That would be a good book. Yeah, well that would
be a good book.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
And especially with all the landscaping you do, I mean
you run into a lot of those pictures.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, I can totally see just like a house lifted
up by a tree, you know, like, yeah, there's got
to be a photo.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Coming up or some of the older homes with Hollywood
un a person.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Oh yeah, wrong plant, wrong place. I love that. That's
a fun one.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah, yeah, you know what as a matter of fact, yeah,
you could very start off just where you're going to
take some pictures of your phone. Just would you.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Would you say the Kipskate rose would fall into that category.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
That's the wrong plant, but that's the right place, like
took over a whole property. Yeah, it covers an acre, right,
it was a lot. Oh man, that was such an
impressive sight.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Trying to think like and then you know there were I.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Have a rose by the way now that we just
before I lose my train of thought called Cooper's Bermese.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
And it was discovered the python discovered.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
In Burma by by Cooper and and I had it
in an and it rooted into the ground and it's
I think it's like a kiffskate type bros. Except this
has got huge thorns on it. Oh you can't even
walk by it and it grabs you. And it's actually

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in the area where you're going to be.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Working in this wonderful you know, speaking of growing into
the ground. And you mentioned it earlier, the fights that
I used to have. So I've got a small fightcust
that used to belong to Dana that came over in
the move years ago, same kind of fight and Jami. Okay.
So it's in a small pot. It's it's growing as
far as it's going to grow, doing as well as
it's going to do in that pot. So I bought

(55:39):
a pot for it. This is why I'm asking you
for the soil next week. So I went and bought
a pot about two weeks ago, and I went to
move it. It's like it's in the ground but not
established enough. So I ripped it up a little bit.
I put a saucepan under it to keep it from
happening again. But again, you don't even think about it
grew right through the pot. Yeah, it looks it looks okay,

(56:01):
but it could do better in a better in a bigger,
better pot. Yeah, but it just goes to show you
don't even think about it.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Is that why you want Tiger to bring you a
good potting song?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Because I bought it save a ficus Benjamin, I'm gonna transplant.
That's what he's focusing on, the good pottings right. Meanwhile,
John has rare, extinct, one of a kind roses and
he doesn't even waste his ocean forest. Ah, and Brian's
over here wanting it for a ficus. Benjamin.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I use it for everything. I love the soil. I
love the soil is not a matter.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Of the loving the soil. It's that's like a very
like I could. I could find those plants out of
the back of a dumpster right now.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, but I'm gonna use it not just for that.
Somebody use the bag for other no other things, and.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You know I don't. I I have a phobea about
misusing the word uh literally, but a lot of Brian's
plants literally that's true.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
You're lucky you don't live near a mass merchant somewhere
where they sell plants. I'm gonna show you drive by
it and you just see there.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I'll take a picture of my sidewalk now, because we
came across a picture of our patio. Probably put it
in the news eight years ago. You couldn't move in
my patio. I don't know how I watered everything and
I smoved everything out in the sidewalk. Now I've got
this walkway that leads up with all these plans on
both sides. We're going to take a break. We've got
two more segments to go and we'll get back to
that mass merchant thing. Tiger a great idea living next

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to that. Garden America back after these messages on BIS
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Speaker 2 (57:55):
John Tiger's got two books sold, Linda in Reading and
Vannikan's Bring Valley with buy one.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
All right, I'll get to work wrong plant.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Ryan Brian's offered to autograph them.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah, you could do the preface, you know, I will.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
You know what's funny the preface is this. This could
even make the book too. You know it was the
oldest tree, was it? The oldest tree in the world
that was along that highway out in the middle of
nowhere in Australia or something.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
And then it was the one in Africa that everybody
ran into.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Is that a drunk driver hit and killed it?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
It was the loneliest tree.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Is that what it was? The loneliest Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Because it existed. There were no trees for miles and
miles miles and this was all by itself and U
military guy ran into it with his truck.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Yeah, so that would even make my book. Right there,
wrong plant, wrong.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Place, Yeah, John how Loo When we were in Italy,
was it no France? John? At the aqueducts in those
olive trees were a thousand years old, right, yes, speaking
of old trees, just amazing. There was a big, huge
Roman aqueduct. Right.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
We have that picture in your mind, don't you? That scene?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I do, because I have the pictures of my phone someplace,
do you.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Yeah, I'd like to see those and then you I
have it in my mind, but.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Yeah, I can find it. But you go to the
aqueduct and realizing it's like thousands of years old with
twelve hundred years old and the way it was built
and it's not crumbling. And it's like, you know, we
can't even build a stadium the last forty years, right,
you know, and you go to the coliseum and that's
still standing.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Right, And and how intricate it was too. It's not
just like basic, it's basic.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
They didn't use mortar, did they. They didn't use anything
in between. They just it was cut very precisely and
held together.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, almost like you're thinking of the arches.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Okay, yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah, they were all like the shape. They had to
be cut perfectly in order to fit together. The Veronica
says that she has the same situation with the ficus
as you do, but she always sets it on a
stepping stone. There you go, So then they never asked
a worry about it growing into the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Then it grows over the stepping stone, that one root
comes over the stepping stone, and then just into the ground. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Well, to be honest, this was just kind of a
place to put it at one time, just I'll put
it here for the time being, and the time being
became all being. You know, I may move it once
I transplant it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Have you seen the photos of Maui, You know, the
area Mali, Hawaii where they're burned, and there was that
giant banyan tree and you know, it burned, it was
substantially damaged. And then if you've seen recent photos of
it and the recovery of that tree, it's astonishing how
resilient it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I'm astonished by those palm trees that burned off Montezuma
a few months ago, because I drive by there every
couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
He's astonished by washing Washingtonias that survived a canyon fire
in San Diego.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Fine, there's a little scorched, you know, they brushed themselves
off a little bit, but but they're you know, and
those houses that are right above there that had to
be so scary. Yeah yeah, yeah, like, hey, still kind
of smells. But guys doing okay, they're fine. You see
those every day. To you, it's like one more yeah,

(01:01:24):
big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah no, it's like your fight history. Hey. But you
know what this goes to show you exactly what we
were talking about with Kevin's situation where he's he is.
He loves his aspens, but they're kind of a pain
to deal with. But meanwhile, we're over here in ewing
and eyeing over aspen trees they can grow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah. Well they're beautiful too, Yeah, Tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Rick wants to know if we've heard anything about the
bio engineered purple tomato from Norfolk Healthy Produce.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
No. I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
First of all, I never heard of Norfolk Healthy Produce.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
But I'm wondering you would have to buy bioengineer a
tomato a purple tomato, because they exist. They do exist,
and I used to hold the world patent or the

(01:02:21):
world rights to sell it. The Indigo ros that was
the one that we had the rights to and it
wasn't bio engineered, it was just cross bread. So I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Maybe you can give us some more information on that,
Rick more background, right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Right, Tiger's going to look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
The purple tomato is an indeterminate, large fruited cherry tomato
with highly vigorous vegetative growth and a strong mainstem. Fruits
form green, then turns purple in the skin ready for
harvest when fruit comes off the vine with a chentle twist.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Is that Norfolk Healthy Produce you're looking at?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Yep? Our purple tomato is bioengineered to produce antioxidants in
the skin and flesh, making the entire fruit more nutritious.
Purple tomatoes have delicious, earthy, savory flavor and purple color
elevates every dish.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You know. I'm wondering if the way they're using the
term bioengineered, if that's just another term for cross breeding. Yeah,
you know, because it doesn't say GMO, which is genetically modified,
which I think of when you say the word bioengineered.

(01:03:33):
So sounds to me like it's a natural off take
of the purple roast tomato.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Yeh, which exactly is it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Okay, there you go. Yeah, And the purple you know,
contains anthocyanin, So it's another antioxidant that did not exist
in the tomatoes that we ate, even though they did
exist in wild tomatoes. The tomato, the wild SPECEI she's
actually came from the galopagas islens and we've talked about
that on the show before, and that was bread with

(01:04:07):
a modern tomato. So you've got the anthoscionins into the
into modern tomatoes and along with the lycopene that's already there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
I hope, I hope all the best for this Norfolk
healthy produce, and if they want to sponsor our show,
please do it. But twenty dollars for a package of
purple tomato seeds, it's a bit much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Wow, how many tomatoes do you get out of that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I mean it's a seed package, you know. I know
they did say here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I know that Rick plants a lot of Brad Gates's tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yeah, the wild boar ones.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah, and Brad has done a lot of work with
the using the purple rose in his breeding too, so
some of his tomatoes have have a lot of them anthoscion, yeah,
and you know all.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Those all those purple blend ones. You know Brad's atomic grape.
You know, there's the whole like series of atomic ones
and have that. But the nice thing about that, and
I don't know this purple tomato, they're not giving it.
They're not giving us a species or.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
A and that happens with produce a lot, right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Right, Yeah, they're just they're just calling it the purple tomato,
which you know, if they had that actually as a varietal,
they would have put that on the package. So this
looks like what you know John was saying, where it's
just like one of the basic purple cherry tomatoes. But
a big problem was they didn't taste very good in

(01:05:42):
the beginning, and Brad's blending varieties actually created some that
actually had some pretty good flavor.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Right, So purple rose is the one that got the
reputation for not tasting good because it did taste good,
but it had to fully ripe, and people weren't used
to a purple tomato. When it turned purple, you thought
it's right, but there was an undertone of green to it,

(01:06:10):
and until that undertone turned perfectly red, it didn't have
a good flavor, even though it was still good for cooking.
The person Jim Myers, who developed the tomato at Oregon
State University, used to say that when you go to
pick it, wait until it's completely red. He said, then
go out there thinking you'll pick it, and then wait

(01:06:32):
a week and then go pick it. So that's the
kind of important. Here's what I can answer. Kevin says
he heard that tomatoes should not be refrigerated because it
changes their flavor in chemistry. What say, you guys never
freeze tomatoes? Yeah, you never refrigerate tomato? Counter Yeah, yeah,

(01:06:58):
because it does destroy the flame.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
A lot of vegetables and fruit, you know, should not
be refrigerated. For that reason, and I think that there's
you know, and as far as preserving them, you know,
I've also heard that the refrigerator doesn't do it any
better job of keeping them. You know, that much longer,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Does keep avocados longer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Well, but I'm just saying, like you know, they they
it'll slow down a little bit, but you lose.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
A lot more what the effectiveness you think you're looking for,
and you lose.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
A lot more than what you gain, meaning you know,
just use it regularly and use it when it's ripe.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
And I don't think you're supposed to refrigerate avocados either,
But if you're not going to use it, use them.
They they'll ripen right away and then they're no good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
We're gonna take a break. One more segment coming up.
It's our shorter segment, sort of the epilogue. John les
to refer to the final segment as the epilogue of
the shell. So we're gonna take a break for Bistalk Radio.
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(01:08:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So you're not doing are you repotting anything else? You
ask to bring in the soil.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
For the okay, the pikus and topping off some of
the pots. Who else needs? Oh? The Griffith Bogonia needs Griffin.
I like to say Griffith, but it's the griffin like
like the griffin like like what you see on buildings.
That's what it's called.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Exactly do they grow griffin begonias in Griffith Park?

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Wow? You're deep? You did you say you had a
griffin Bogonia. We talked about it, loud I was telling
you how Look it gets real spindy this time of
their it's almost like a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
It's almost like going to arment because it is a slaves.
They look like plumerius sticks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
It looks terrible my plumeria right now in my begonia. Look,
you know the average person would think too bad, you're
gonna throw it away. No, they're supposed to look like that.
Would you wake a sleeping bear?

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
No, I would not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Those are the most famous sand dunes in the in
the Michigan are sleeping bear dunes. You went there, right, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
You were two summers ago, right or last summer, last.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Sumber this summer?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Did you run down the dunes?

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
I did not. I did not, but I went there,
but I did not run down the dude.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
But I like to take in a slave.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I worked at dudes up in Pismo Beach, so I
know a lot about dunes, and I knew not to
run down dunes. They're much harder to get up than
you think.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Were you familiar with the dunes hotel in Las Vegas?
That was I was familiar employed years ago. Hotel part
of part of the Old Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
There's gonna you know, there's going to be Old Vegas,
and then there's going to be middle aged Vegas, and
then there's gonna be new New Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
I remember back to the dunes. The last time I
was there, I was much older than the first time.
So so we ran to the bottom and then getting up,
like you said, was the worst. Oh, it was horrible
in this little five or six year old boy, it

(01:10:31):
starts racing past all the way to the top. Yeah,
it was so discouraging.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Have you been out to the dunes on the way
to Yuma?

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Yeah, yeah, it looks like that looks like Saudi Arabia
out there, right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what desert? What is
that called?

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Is that part of the Mohave? But but you've got
a lot of people the dune buggies. Yeah, and you know,
so on and so forth. A Colorado River is in
that area.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Did you ever go to Whites National Monument.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I've never been there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I think I told you that I was impressed when
I went there because it was the only time in
my light, in my life, i've heard silence. Oh, just
total silence.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
And silence of that magnitude is deafening, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
It's the sounds of silence. You but you didn't hear
anything because there was no there were no trees for
the wind to blow through.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Yeah, so it's just nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
So it was just nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
You know. It's funny, as the time that I associate
with the most silence is actually just because of the
extremes on one side and that's when I went parachuting skydiving.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Oh you you've done that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I've done that. And when you're falling initially it's so
loud and so uncontrollable. Never thought of that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
It's so loud the wind and you've got you've got
a helmet on, but still.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Yeah, but no, it's so loud. And then the minute
that shoot opens, silence.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Were you were?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Were you tethered to somebody or on your own? Yeah? Yeah, okay?
And how many times did you do it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
I've just done it once?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Would you do it again?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
I would. I'm not opposed to doing it. I just
don't have or desire.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Is it as thrilling as you thought it will? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Even more? Yeah, you're falling, of course to the earth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Okay, let me ask you a question, because when you
see this on video or film, TV, whatever, and you
see people falling, it looks like they're standing still, not
standing still, it looks like they're not moving very fast. Yeah,
and you're at least what what gravity? Gravity says you
can go no faster than one and is one hundred
twenty miles an hour as far as how fast you
can fall? Yeah, exactly. Terminal loss. So do you feel

(01:12:46):
you're actually falling that fast or do you feel more
like you're floating. You feel the shoot before the shoot opens, you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Feel you feel like you are floating, and you feel
just the rush. But what makes you, what makes you
feel like you're falling fast, is when you look at
the ground and how quickly it comes towards you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
But you don't have the sense that you're falling.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
You don't have the sense that you're falling.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
So, but doesn't it take your breath away when you first.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Jump idea adrenaline. Yeah, yeah, so it's not It's not
the fall that would kill you. It would be the
sudden stop.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Yes, okay, goodness gracious, we have a couple of minutes
here to sort through the end of the show. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
One of those things that I don't think I would
ever need to do again, but it reminds me of
what skydiving would be like. When we were in Costa Rica.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Oh, then we did the Tarzan the tars End swing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
It was like, you know, I got I got up
there and then I didn't realize, wait a second, I'm
just jumping off this see.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
So I would zipline like I want to go ziplining
more yes than skydives. Yes, because I feel I enjoyed
that because you can see, you can control, right, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
That yes, I get. I got.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
The first time my zip line was in Hawaii with
Dana back in twenty eighteen, and we were high above
the canopy of the trees, and I remember getting up
there and they're like, okay, you're ready. I'm like, you
don't ask questions, just open the gate, let me go.
I don't want just let me go. Yeah, And so
the first second or two, and then after that you're like, oh,
this is fine. Yeah, it doesn't take long to go.
This is great.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Yeah, do this all day, right, you wish it never stops.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Exactly now in Costa Rica, which we didn't do, which
we should have. You said, there's like different levels, four
or five.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Going through the canopy, going through the different areas. It
gives you a whole nother perspective. It does, because when
you're down in the tree canopy looking up, it's magical,
it's absolutely gorgeous. But then when you're above it looking
down to another perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yeah, Tanya, and San Jose says she used to fly
hang gliders.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Oh that would be fun to you know what, it's
great kind of knowing the backgrounning some of our listeners
and yours.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
But she also comments that parachuting's falling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yeah, we're gonna wrap things up. Yeah, So thank you, well,
thank you to our guest Linda. I will be here
next week, but we'll be missed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
We will be there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
We'll be here an interesting guest next week.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Yes we do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Don't tell anyone else.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Stay tuned, make sure you get the newsletter, make sure
you stay safe the rest of the weekend, have a
great week, whatever you do. Just because John's not here,
you're more than welcome to join us next week. And
then after that John will come back and explain why
he was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I'll tell you right now. I'm going to be at
the la Ar Bretum if you want to join us.
The Pacific Row Societies having their annual auction.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
So there you go. So until next time, have a
safe one. This is guarded to America. Take care. Brian
Main and John Bagnascar Tuger Pelafox. Thank you for joining us,
and I guess we can still get growing, can't we?
Sure we can't get growing? America, Take care

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