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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As they say, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, not
good night, because we're gonna be we for the next
hour and a half to two hours here on Guard
in America. Welcome those on Facebook Live Biz talk radio
also will be tuned in is tuned in right now.
We thank you for that as we still muddle through
what we're doing out here live and again, the chipmunks
followed us.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
But what did you put on the ground? Poison? You
space something on the ground.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
We don't poison this shit monks here. Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
You relocated them. That's what you did. You relocated a
better home. So where are we, by the way.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
We're in beautiful Mission Hills, Mission Hills Nursery.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Don't tell me on Fort Stockton Street exactly, for Stockton
is Fort Stockton Drive, for Stockton Drive, yeah something. Yeah, Now,
this place has been here since nineteen ten. But it
looks contemporary, you think, so, Yeah, looks good. It's a
combination of book the older, little work done. It looks
and notice the front looks a little different, did you guys. Yeah,
you updated.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
New fencing, new walls out there just to kind of
make it look a little bit, a little bit more
part of the neighborhood and not just some penitentiary tucked
in here.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Who's that handsome guy to You're right?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Where are we?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Anyway, we are on and you guys can monitor the
comments to make sure that the things are on the
straight and narrow here.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
You know, Tiger just got back from a trip back east.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, which is why we were off. One of the
reasons we were off last weeks we set up for
this show.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah, the setup time shows right.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
So where did you go? Tell everybody where you went?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
So I flew into Grand Rapids, Michigan, and then we
went up to Pentwater, which is on Lake Michigan, and
picked up my daughter who was vacation with a friend there.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Drove through Cleveland, drove.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Through Pittsburgh, drove through Philadelphia into Baltimore and then Washington
and then to Washington, d C. And then the surrounding
areas of Washington, d C.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
I thought the coolest thing was Mount Vernon. The story
you tell me, yes, that your kids got to put
a wreath on George Washington's.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Great exactly, Yeah, really super special for those of you
that have not been into Mount Vernon before, I hope
I don't spoil it, but that is where George and
Martha Washington are also buried, along with a lot of
their family, and they have a special tomb that they're
both sitting in and.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I'm really not sitting.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, well, they're probably there.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
And what is it when you're in a big stone carsophagus?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's the way. But but the guy kind of described
it as something like that. I feel so.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
But anyways, it was a big stone casket that you
can see that that's where they're in. They're not they're
not in a wall, they're not buried, They're in these
big stone caskets. So every day part of the ceremony
there is to put a wreath, you know, on his
every day. Yeah, they did every day just as a

(03:10):
special kind of remembrance and for the people that are
visiting and everything. So it was really neat So Tossy
and I got to participate in that, which is really cool.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, and you know, Mount Verne is special place.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
For those of the people that haven't visited there, I
highly recommend going. If you've already been there, you know
what I'm speaking about. But I mean, I'm telling you, Johnny,
it reminded me of back in England when we were
traveling a lot of these estates and properties that have
been in families for generations. It kind of reminds me
of that, Yeah, so really cool spot. But Washington, DC

(03:42):
was great, just hot and humid.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh yeah community.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Right when people say when people say it's humid here,
I look at them and go, are you nuts? Yeah,
it's sixty five percent humidity. You don't know what humidity
When you take a shower back, then you get out
of the shower, you're still wet after you dry off.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
And then the other thing too that anybody that lives
in these other areas will will and that move to
southern California will know this. But you know, they talk
about missing weather or missing the change in seasons. One
of the things that Tassy and Isaac got to experience
for the first time was a true lightning thunderstore.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Like big big bang boom.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well not just big bang boom, but you know in
southern California, when lightning comes, it's like, oh, we saw
it and then it's gone.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You're talking about constant lightning.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Concept, and the light in the sky fills up the
whole area. In the it seems like the lightning travels
across the sky, not just downwards.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I was just watching a YouTube video the other night
and the same thing. It was in the evening and
these people were outside and it was constant lightning going off.
It was like a like a strobe light almost.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, and it was really cool. So that was really neat.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
And also to get more rain in twenty minutes than
San Diego gets in a full year was was another
eye opener for them.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, now so say so Tassia is what fifteen sixteen,
fourteen fourteen and Isaac is ten? All right, so this
is it's a family trip, it's a vacation, but there's
historical and educational value and usually kids at a certain
point are like, what are we doing on board?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are we there yet?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Did they get into it? Did they understand? Did they
what it? What were the highlights for them?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
We well, I think when we asked them, we did
ask them what was their highlights?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
What were the things we could have you know, moved past?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
So for them there were some really special moments in
the cities in the sense of like visiting so Pittsburgh
was a was a big eye opener. Then they loved it.
They loved the city. The city was beautiful, it had
a lot to offer, it was clean, people were friendly,
so they that was a real highlight of their trip.

(05:56):
And then obviously Washington in d C. And all that
it has to offer for but they come from San Diego,
where you know, they have aquariums, they have a zoo,
they have museums, they have aerospace museum, right, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
They have a lot.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not gonna say better,
but it's but it's comparable, right, you know. But I
will say the thing that was like the highlight you
asked for both of them was just the idea of
visiting places and being able.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
To see what it really is. You know.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Just when we got home, we're watching I don't know,
some movie on TV and they go to the Washington
Monument and they passed them all and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
We were there, We were there exactly.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
And in Pittsburgh, you know, when you see that on TV.
In Cleveland and Baltimore and all these places, when you
see them on TV, they're like, we've been there now,
and they can associate because we do do that where uh,
Janine and the kids are kind of into haunted stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
So they love to figure out what is the haunted
places that we're visiting it and obviously through a lot
of those areas like Philadelphia and Washington, there's a lot
of haunted stuff. So there's a lot to see, you know.
Along with that trip, which.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Is at Liberty Bell, we saw the Liberty Bell still cracked,
still cracked.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, I think they could fix it.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, well they're working on it.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And that was a really cool place because, you know,
learning that or seeing that that area was our first
side of government. Yeah, that's where that's where the Senate was,
that's where Congress was, that's where the president was during
the first years.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Of our government.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
And obviously to watch it, but you know, just knowing
that history of that place was really cool.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
We should welcome people to the Garden America History Channel,
and so we are broadcasting live out of the studio
from Mission Hill's Nursery here in San Diego, California.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Welcome one and all.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Are you watching our time? By the way, I sure
am okay? Oh keeping us on time for BIS Talk Radio.
Thank you to Bistalk Radio. The past couple of two
or three weeks, they've been running the best of our
reruns of our show. I've been in constant contact with him.
I check and everything is fine, smooth saleine, because with
every rerun or replay there's always somebody new that's listening
or watching.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
I wanted to ask Tiger if did you notice any
plants out there that weren't here?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, definitely stood out right, Yeah, definitely of a
different variety of plants. But at the same time, you know,
they do such a great job gardening in the back
east of incorporating stuff because because you know, this is
the time of year that they can actually grow, you know,
a lot.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Yeah, so if they're going to have tropicals, they're going
to be grown as in.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Annuals exactly, and they're going to be in beautiful combinations.
And you know, just look Spectator, I mean, I mean
Mount Vernon in his garden, they had bananas growing, you know, kind.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Of a day.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
So as far as back there, you know, the plant
that it's not exotic but was everywhere was Ipomea. They
had that cascating and growing everywhere. So that's that what's
the comedy sweep caatavine?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, cascating.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know, they got the the kind of yellowish green,
they've got the you know, purple, they've got a variety
of colors between them. So that was in every pot combination.
There was ipomea, which was really cool to see.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
We get about a minute to go into the first break,
keeping us on time.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
And then as far as you know, some of the
other you know, hydranges and not the standard hygienerringe of
macro fire that we have here, but the actual like
bush ones that are deciduous. Those were really cool too
to see lots of those as well in full bloom.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I mean, I'm assuming right now is the time to
year that you see it.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
You know, at my house they have one called incredible, okay,
and you know with blooms that.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
What color like?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh really, yeah, that's what your wife, Shannon, one of
her favorites love.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
I dream absolutely that in vink. I noticed tiger in
front of you. Brian put that little.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Dwarf rink a minor No, think.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
It's nice that you picked up on that.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, So we're going to take a break for our
friends on BIS Talk Radio. Thank you to BIS Talk
and the team back there. Thank you to those tuned
in right We are broadcasting live from Missions nursery here
in San Diego. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Target Pelafox.
We'll take a break back after these messages on BIS
Talk Radio. Okay, welcome back to the show. If you're
just joining us, Welcome one and all outside of the

(10:44):
studio guard in America. John Begnasco, Target Palafox, Brian Maine
on a weather overcast day, but things will clear up
here in the San Diego, Southern California. So any questions, comments,
keep them coming right there on Facebook Live Biz Talk
Radio pre recorded show. And again we thank you as
well our national affiliates, and a big thank you to Fertilo,
our major sponsor here on Guard in America. Now, the

(11:05):
quote of the week. I know a lot of people
clamoring John Cards letters, emails. What about that quote of
the week from UH, by the way, if you get
the newsletter, the quotes always.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
In there, that's right, and quotes from environmental icon Rachel Carson.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Rachel Carson, of course, she said those.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Who dwell among the beauties and mysteries of the earth
are never alone or weary of life.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Letting that soak in.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, that was deep, all right.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Rachel Carson another one of John's favorites, Beverly Nichols, Fatty
or Buckle.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
What's the Why.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Would you bring Beverly Nichols up after Rachel Carson. I'm
just speaking of connection whatsoever. Thought they both had a
lot of memorable.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's the girl's name, but it's a guy.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah friends.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
But I brought in a on agapanthus today.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Is that supposed to be that way?

Speaker 5 (12:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, what's wrong with it?

Speaker 5 (12:20):
It's uh the dark varieties storm cloud correct, and I
think it's almost like a doppel ganger. You know, there's
the Echinasia doppelgangers where one flower grows at the top
of another. I've never seen the sun an agapanthus, and
I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
So people people can see it.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Here's the main bloom and then out of the main bloom,
it's sent up a secondary bloom out at.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
The top of it. Yeah, that's really fun.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
It would be really cool if all the time, right,
if you could have a variety that.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
You would have to divide that one section huh, because
that's the way agapanthus grows that if you're gonna it
wouldn't be the whole plant, would it be just that
one section.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
It's actually only one flower out of twenty five or
thirty flowers on that plant, on that plant, so I
don't know if another one would come out that way
or not. You know, sometimes it's just hard to tell roses.
I'll do that sometimes you get a anyway, I thought
it was weird and thought i'd bring it in share.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, that's super fun.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And that just happened is just by happenstance. Every now
and then the first one time.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
You've seen called happenstance.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh darn, it goes my other idea.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
The I wanted to thank our listeners for the pictures
they sent in for the newsletter.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
And very nice.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah, and did you see the the dahlia that the
Lane from San Diego. Lane is the president of the
San Diego Dahlia Society and it was called my Hero.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
That was the DA name. Yeah, oh okay, yeah nice.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
So I thought that was that was kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, that was a pretty one.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, and so is the dahlia because you know how
they do the rose competition, so it.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Would be right now as well dahlia's or no, is
that earlier.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
They were showing dahlias at the fair, so it was
right now, yeah, okay, so if you plus you know,
Elaine gave me a dahlia that where were we trying
to think you and I were there? Must have been at.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
The Rose auction and Ocean Side.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
No, no, no, in England. Oh would it have been
at the Hampton Court flower show? Do you remember? We
were looking at dahlia somewhere and we were trying to
find out the name of this one dahlia which we
ended up finding and it was like a single red
with a yellow center, kind of a strange We found

(14:58):
out it was called Mars.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah remember you yeah remember this? Yeah, yeah, And I've.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Been trying to get in and I haven't. People that do
sell it sell out right away. But anyway, Elaine gave
me one that was similar but not the same one,
and I planet it in my rose garden and three
days later a rabbit came and ate it to the ground.
Of course, yeah, of course, of all.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
The ones out there, that one.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
A whole yard full of roses, thousands of roses, and
they wanted to eat that dellia. But it came back
up after the rabbits disappeared for some reason.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well, now the rabbits. What what time of the season
was this.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
That would have been in May.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think, well, that's when the rabbits scattered, Yeah, and
they went away.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Relocated themselves.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
And another thing I found out about rabbits now that
we're talking about it is they for some reason love
polyanth roses.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Just polyantha, not any.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
But if they've got a polyanthe rose, they go right
to it and eat it. Really And I had one
that recuperated. I put it up on a table just
like this tiger, and after it was called schnee princessen,
which is German for snow princess.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Schneezin's pressing schnee schnee princess and princess in princess schnee
princess right, snow princess.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Anyway, it's a really nice polyanth rose. It finally came
back after I had a bunch of polyanthes on the
ground in the spring and the rabbit saying them all,
so I put them on a table like this. It
finally came back and I thought, well, you know, I
haven't seen a rabbit for a while. I put it

(16:54):
on the ground. In a week later, every leaf was
eating nothing.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
When you say you haven't seen a rabbit. You know,
they're watching. They're watching you. You can't see them, but
they're in hiding.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
You know. And it's my fault for not remember I
told you I found the baby bunny in the driveway,
right it was, and I didn't run over it.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
They're they're paying you back now.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
It's that same baby bunny.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, it's like that baby bunny. He's like, you know what,
I always see John out there trimming roses that I
should help. I should help trim the roses.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, to get to give back for you being such
a generous guy spring the rabbit's life.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
I'm not as much of a sucker when it comes
to adult baby bunnies. I can't hurt.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, adults, different story.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Do you have any questions, what's what's going on? And
with our Facebook feed and our Facebook viewers and listeners.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Well, Lisa commented and wanted to thank Tiger for sharing
the nursery, and.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
We'll have actually, we'll be broadcasting from a few areas
of the nursery as as things progress outside inside, depending
upon the time of the year, and of course we
have the roving cameras, so if there's anything we want
to highlight.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
We can do that as well.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Exactly, lots of fun stuff to be able to kind
of experience outside the studio. And thank you all for
bearing with us as we work through some of our
changes when it comes to audio visual connection, you know,
coming back week after week, giving us an opportunity to
try things out here.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Sure, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
And we're still not doing We're still perfecting. We're not
done yet.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
This is uh, Today's going to be a good example
and a great experiment as far as what we what
we can do, what we're capable of doing, and what
is yet to be seen or heard.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Not perfect edis that what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
What did I say?

Speaker 5 (18:45):
You said? Of course, still perfecting.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Absolutely will always perfect.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
All right, do you have your nematode comic in front
of you? Explain to people, well, let's take a thing.
Oh take a break. We'll take a break.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
And because it's a good one I hear and you
know gardeners get it.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, exactly, so we're going to take a break. This
is garden America. Of course.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Those on Bistalk Radio Facebook Live, I'm Brian Maine, Tiger Pelafox,
John Begnasco.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
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Speaker 1 (19:14):
In with us. Back after these messages on bis Talk. Okay,
we are back after that break on Bistalk Radio Facebook Live.

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Speaker 1 (19:23):
So, I hope you've been following the uh.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
The one paneled cartoons.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I guess that John's been putting together with the three
of us and you wanted to share one.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
By the way, these are on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
And also the newsletter, correct and Instagram and Instagram.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
If you want to follow Garden America Radio Show on Instagram,
the cartoons are right there. I think. On Facebook, depending
on your setup, they might get cut off right, you know,
but they're in full view on Instagram, and I usually
try to make them pertain to the newsletter.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Or yeah, we're talking about yeah, listen.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Newsletter had an article on beneficial nematodes and do you
sell us here?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yes, we do, do you? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:07):
And and I just wanted to make it clear what
they are, because when you think of nematodes, you think root,
not nematode.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
People instantly like bad, right.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
But there are good nematodes and they are beneficial nematodes.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
They were white. That's how you can tell that they're different.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
But they don't. One of the misconceptions out there is
if I've got the bad nematodes, I'll put out the
good ones and kill them. But they don't. They're not cannibals,
Yeah they're not.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, they're for eating other soil insects, grubs right, grubs, yeah,
grubs from beetles and things that are eating your plant roots.
So it's and this is the time of year actually,
you know, put them on with the watering.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Can or it's the weirdest thing, right, Like I mean,
so for people that have never used nematodes before, you
get this sponge in a package, and that package has
an expiration date on it because they're alive on that sponge,
and so you know a lot of times like a
nurser will keep them in a refrigerator or they'll sell
them to you where.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
You order them online and then get them directly shipped
your heart.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
But you need to use them.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
There is a time frame you have to use it
with in a period of time.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
So you take that sponge, yeah, yeah, and they do
put solution, you know, like the ladybugs, they put a
solution in there to help them along the way, but
eventually it runs out. So you take that sponge, you
soak it in water, and then you basically rinse it
out into a watering can and then you just drizzle

(21:44):
that watering can over the soil of wherever you want
these them to go.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Doesn't change color. You don't see little creatures crawling around
on this sponge.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
It is all faith, exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, So that's how you apply numatodes right.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Now my question and I should know this, But once
you've applied them, are they there forever?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
I feel as long, like kind of like ladybugs, as
long as there's something to sam.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
You do get the benefits.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
But you bring up a good point about lady bugs
and other beneficial insects that people buy. They just turn
them loose and think they're going to be there. But
unless you're supporting them to some degree or their support
outside from the environment, they're going to go by by
and look for something else.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
And like you say, with the environment, I mean, so
you know, with nematodes, they need a active soil area.
You know, they cannot just you know, a dead soil
blanket blank area.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
They can't survive and that there's nothing in there to
help them kind of move on.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
So, yeah, they need a moist area, too moist, so
they're not going to be good in a zero escape.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, no, exactly.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
And so you know a lot of people use them
in lawns for grubs, like you're saying, because there are
a great solution for for grubs in lawns are watered
constantly and there's a lot of activity in the soil
vegetable gardens.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
People, you do use it for as well, right or no?

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Yeah, because there are crubs that are in the soil.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
And that's it's really one of the only natural ways
to treat a grub, right because all the like a
lot of the other grub killers, you can't use them
in edible garden situations.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
So yeah, a lot of the soil insect killers are
only for ornamental gardens.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah right, So but yeah, so your your comic was
us at a garden center shopping you picked up a
box of beneficial nematodes.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Brian had a box and evil nematods. He says, they
also come with a cape and a mustache. And then
I'm just holding a giant earthworm that's this guy looks honest,
this is a mission hill nurse. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
I don't know. If you can't show that, right.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I might be able to let me see.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Let's see here, Tiger's gonna see if he can show
the cartoon.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Oh yeah, can you click on that camera there for me? Brian?

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Oops?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Up? Is it like the opposite? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Going down there?

Speaker 5 (24:20):
You go, Oh goodness, hold it there for a second.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Anyway, if you go to Instagram, guard America on Instagram
you can see it better. And the nice thing about
Instagram is the cartoons are all there, one in a row,
so you can just flip through them and see any
that you might have missed.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, and and it's a lot of fun and you know,
just so we also have a disclaimer that John actually
is a very good speller and also he can put
words together very well.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
He uses a a.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
System that populates the image, so it doesn't always spell
words correctly for you or like.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, I thought we were supposed to find the mistake.
It's like where's Waldo.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
That would be another fun game is if we put
these out and you we can identify all the mistakes.
Listeners can go through there and if they can find
all five or ten, then they you know, they went
a seed package.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
You know, we weren't on last week, but last week
the newsletter talked about us moving out of the studios,
out into a greener pastures, not doing the show from
a cave and h and the cartoon had the three
of us in pots, and it showed Brian in a

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pot saying, after ten years, I think we're root bound.
And I said, let's hope this new pot is better.
Wi Fi Tiger goes. I just want more son and
a better view.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
So we have that. We don't have the sun yet,
but we have a better view obviously.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Actually I prefer not having you know what.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
This is nice. This is nice.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
So so John in Fallbrook, about what time of the
day on the average is the sun coming out?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
When does the sun break through? Normally we're about eleven
thirty or twelve.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Where we are seven o'clock. Really it's right off the
bat pretty much usually.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
You know that is you know, traveling along the East
coast as well, is it was hot and humid, and
we expected that. But we don't ever get the they
don't ever get the the down time, like even in
the evenings you're walking around ten pm at night and
it's still oh yeah, and it's still.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Is in the same degree and it's light later, right
because you're further north.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
That is that is something that is really hard to
get use ten o'clock and it's like it's still light
out your internal clock, not being able to know what
time it is based on the sun. Because when you
changed locations, it was it was a challenge. Our kids
were staying up way later than they.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Should have because hey, it's still Lightwise, should I go
to bed?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
There's still stuff to do.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Yeah, Kevin wants to know what time your nursery opens.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Eight am, eight to five, seven days a week.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
So does he have time to make it from Qurt.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, plenty of time. Plenty of time, eight to five,
seven days a week. Yeah, that's that's something. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
So you know, and it's it's fun here to kind
of visit the nursery and see what's new, what's different,
what's in season changing. And I will say right now,
it's tough for centers in general because you know, it's
the of a season between people and you know, for
like you're saying, you're in between for for most people,

(27:43):
and so you know, there's maybe not as much different stuff,
but there's still things that are different.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Tropicals are right now.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Right and and I imagine you have a lot of
things that you know it's gonna do well with San Diego,
come on in what it'll it'll do fine, you know,
and it or it'll or it'll it'll do well. And
then as we get into the fall or summer, spring, whatever,
it'll struck to do better.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
But right now it's gonna survive.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, lots of lots of fun stuff. And
then you know, houseplants and cactus and succulents, you can't
go wrong with.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
That any time of year.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
House Plants are something that we definitely try to keep
in stock and be different on because everybody's looking for
unique stuff to put in their house. And you know
they've they've had the pathos, the ivy, the the fcus,
and now they want to change it up or you know,
put something different or new and find a new room.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
That was you know, there was this guard There wasn't
I wouldn't call it a garden center. We were in.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
I want to say it was Pittsburgh, and there was
this downtown Pittsburgh, this little corner shop just house plants
and they had maybe.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
House plants or big pick, like yeah, sixty or seventy,
you can have them around house plants.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
And it was really cute set up and a lot
of fun. It was really neat. But I'm like, I mean,
this is prime real estate, right, you know, just think
that this place could survive in that. But I mean,
like you say, you're downtown. What is the closest nursery
to them? They got to drive out of town or
somewhere far away.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Deep. Yeah, yeah, there are a lot more independent nurseries back, yes,
than there are in southern California.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
You know, we were talking about thirty seconds to the break.
Did you want to get started or wait?

Speaker 5 (29:26):
You know what, why don't we come back? I want
to talk about John and Newport Beaches? Okay, comments on
the nematotes, all.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right, John and Newport Beach. Anybody else with questions, comments
on Facebook life?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
All right?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
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Speaker 3 (30:12):
So what did Kevin or was it John?

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Remember I was talking about the misconception people had on
beneficial nematodes, and he was saying that he thought that
the good nematodes nematodes overwhelmed the bad ones and so
that the bad ones didn't have anything to eat. Oh
and the bad nematodes are herb herbivores, right, and beneficial

(30:41):
ones are carnivores.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, and I think that's why the misconception that they
would eat the bad ones, right.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
So yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, if you were
to take it above ground and talk about ladybugs like
we talked about.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Ladybugs don't eat your plants. They are a carnivore, so
they're eating other bugs.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
So you know, they would really have no effect on
your plants number one, And they wouldn't, like you say,
eat all of the other things that the bad bugs
are eating, because they're eating the bad bugs and that
they're not taking away the bad bugs food source or
anything like that. So, you know, similar thing that is
happening below ground. And it is interesting because it's an

(31:26):
it's a it's a weird concept for people to understand
that there's the same creature but two different versions of it.
I mean, like we just said, like lady bugs, there
is no herbivore version of a.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Ladybug that I know.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I mean maybe there is when you really break down
to science, you know, and like a cat or a dog,
you know, there's.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Not herbivore varieties of butterfly though.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
What do you mean, Well, but there's no carnivore variety
of butterfly.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
No, but there's herbivores where they eat the planets. Right.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
What I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Does the butterfly eat plant larvae?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Caterpillars eat plants, yes, but there's no there's no caterpillar
out there that eats other caterpillars.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
You had to John had to bring the metamorphosis into
play here.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, the birds and the bees and the butterfly.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
All right, Carlo wants to know who does the artwork
on the cartoons.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
That's what. Yeah, well, I.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Do the artwork with the help of AI.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yes, it's a thought process that goes into the ingenuity
of what John.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is a relationship now put puts into the computer.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
It is Shannon is questioning, you know, John's relationship with
his computer.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Now AI is a horrible I'm trying to teach it
and it is getting better.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
But you know what's so funny, It does really weird things.
Because the reason why I brought up that John is
a good speller and don't judge his artwork based on
it because in this one and it could mean just
not me reading it clearly.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
But on the back shelf, there's two bottles.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Right that are pest dust right, and one of them
is p lst right and the other one is pees
T right.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
So it's spelled it correct once.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Okay, let me let me bring up a but why
here's a great comparison. If you watch YouTube and John
and I have really I can recognize an AI voice
within the first two three seconds. And here's here's a
good a good indication speaking of inconsistency. If that AI
voice is doing a documentary or explaining something or giving

(33:35):
names out, you might hear that AI voice mispronounced the
name and you're thinking that's not how it's pronounced, and
then ten seconds fifteen seconds later pronouncing it right. So
there's an inconsistency just like the spelling that you know,
pronouncing a name wrong and pronouncing it right, and then
the same with the spelling.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
So that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Even though it's spelling versus you know, audio or conversation,
there's something within that that can't you get it right,
I mean, can't set it and forget it.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
And especially since AI is always correctly spelling in text.
You know, in text, yeah, if it's writing text, but.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
When you create, you're creating something, oh.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Really yeah, So so when it's writing a paragraph, right,
you never find a spelling error in that paragraph.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Now there's oh there's factual yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
In there, or or maybe maybe grammatical or the wrong
use of a word or something like that, but it spells.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
It all right, Oh okay.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Interesting, it's when it's when we get involved in creating
something like what John's doing or a video or something.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, and I don't I don't know. I don't know.
That to me, that's an obvious glitch.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, Tiger Carlo wants to know if n Anesia will
come back once it dies or is it gone for good?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
So it depends on then numesia, right, because the the
beauty behind modern technology and plant growers is that they've
grown a lot of really cool varieties of plants. But
downside of it is that they've made those plants only
be able to be propagated by you know, cuttings or

(35:12):
seed source or anything like that. So a lot of
times it doesn't reseed, and Namishia would be one of
those plants that has to recede to come back. I mean,
you know, we call it a perennial, but really it's
an annual, you know, kind of a thing.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Or in California, yea, what we call half hearty perennials.
You know, they'll live two or three years.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
And even if you cut them back, a lot of
times they will come back, but that only happens a
few times.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Right, and then they kind of wear themselves up.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yes, And so like tomatoes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
And so the issue though is, like you say, like
I was saying, is that there are some bodies in
Amisia that are kind of almost those those initial varieties that.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Do recede and they will come back.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
But chances of you getting those nowadays in a garden
center are very slim to none because a lot of
them have come from the market that you know leads
to one. It's kind of like a listum nowadays. When
you used to buy a color pack of a Lissm,
you had to listen for life, right because it just reseeded.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Through your whole garden and it was wonderful.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Nowadays though, when you buy a list on, it's not
that same variety and it doesn't populate in your garden
like it used to, which which is what people.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Need to benefit for something some people.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
So if you want that, though, you have to go
to almost.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Like the seed source and buy the seed Lissm or
seed na Misia because then you know it'll reseed.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, you know, getting back to the seeds, we should
do something where we have a seed giveaway or something. Okay,
just come up with something kind of you know, keep
people engaged involved.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
We've done that before, so we're good at it.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, and people like.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Seeds easy for us to ship things fun, there's lots
of fun varieties. What is what is something you know?
And I know you don't necessarily grow a lot from seed?
But what what would be something that you would re
see eat every year?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I think edibles, so any but what about specifically? Would
it be like a tomato?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Would it be okay, probably a tomato? What was I
growing in the veggiepot cilantro?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think anything edible would be
would be something fun. And then of course, if I
was really going to get into it, then expand and
you know, talk to you guys and see what else
I could do that I haven't done before.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Were were we in Ohio when you uh got those seats?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yes? Yes, good, good, it's like two thousand.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
And five of Agricultural Equipment Show.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah. Was I a winter or did I just buy them?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
They them, they gave them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
I don't know if I've ever been anywhere? Were you
with you? Where I've seen you that.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
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are back. The birds are singing. It's still cloudy, but
the birds are still singing. And the chipmunks and squirrels
are running around.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
They don't hear the chickens.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, they were making noise earlier. We did you see
a squirrel?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Right? We did see a squirrel run by.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
If you are just joining us, we are broadcasting live
from Mission Hills Nursery in San Diego, California, and I'm
Brian Mayntuger, Pela Fox, John Begnascar. We are outside. We
hope you're enjoying the fact that we're outside in the environment.
And I guess at some point if we wanted to
either today or in future shows, if you have any
ideas or some interesting plans, like John noticed this right here,
this which you can't see, looks like a doctor Seu's tree.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And what did you think you thought it was?

Speaker 5 (38:40):
What?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
John? And Australian Australian Willow Australian Willow.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I can show it.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, let's take a look at that.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Let's see here.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
I think you're right. It's a she string acacia.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
There it goes.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
But I see you have that like that, Actually, you
have that in your backyard. You're gonna be You're gonna
be the different one. You're gonna be the unique person.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Everyone has tolerance.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
It's like that the austragon bottle tree that you gave me.
Nobody has that around me.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
No, but you have a bottle tree in your Oh my.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Gosh, it's twenty feet tall.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
And how's the bottle part?

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Well, he won't cut the top, I told them.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Because you know it bulbs out.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Well, I know, but you know what it was blooming
like halfway up, and those blooms died or receated or whatever.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
You're starting to come out again. But the top is wonderful.
Why why?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Why?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
What am I gonna touch it?

Speaker 5 (39:37):
I'm just saying, if you wanted the base to be bigger,
if you cut the top, oh, the more energy would
go towards the trunk.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
But I don't think. I think it's in a nice pot.
It's the pot's big enough. I don't want fine, I
don't want to disturb it. You can do whatever you want.
But but yeah, I know what you're saying. If if
I wanted to expand the base or the bottom of it,
but it seems happy, that would be.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
An interesting conversation or photo request is kind of your
most interesting plants potted though, you know what I mean,
because keeping plants in pots sometimes is a very specific
skill for some plants, you know, Like you know, keeping
a bottle tree in a pot is pretty cool to

(40:20):
me because I just feel they're in the ground, They're
hardier in a pot. I feel people would overwater them
heavy or John Day would become root down.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
John told me watch the water. Yeah, just you know,
so I happened. You know, it's interesting. I'm probably ninety
percent success with potts in what I have.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, as a ten percent I don't admit to.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Do you think do you think now that you're a
percent soil? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
They but they do have batteries there you go.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Do you think that now that you're home more, you
are taking care of the garden more.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah. Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Now that I'm home more, I can see when the
sun comes up, how much sun the patio gets, how
much less sun the patio might get the outdoor front
door area. It's interesting because now I can see, oh,
at nine o'clock, you know, I'm getting so much sunlight here.
Twelve o'clock noon, it's really heating up. Oh two o'clock
where the sun going the patio, there's not much light.

(41:20):
So it helps me move plants around and gives me
a better idea of exactly you know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
But yeah, that's a good question because John, for years
you've been a twenty four to seven gardener, meaning you
are in your garden almost every day.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
But the twenty four is only when I get up
in the middle of the night did I turn the
water off?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Exactly. But you're there, and you so so like what
you know.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
John walks out and he can say that plant was
here yesterday and now it's.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Not a rabbit eight or a go rate, and he
knows it that day. It's not like, oh, last week
it was there, or I think I had a plant.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
See, I'm like John, if I had his space in
his area, I would know exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
You would know.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Oh yeah, because I see you know what if you
move your couch.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Six inches to the riot, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I notice it. It's out of place. Something, something's out
of place.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I used to mess with you with the little microphone things.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, absolutely, because it's.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Like and you know, it's like my aquarium. So they
look at the fish. Everybody doing Okay, why is that fish?
Now he's behind the coral and he's been there for
two days.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Is he sick? Is he going to get better? Is
he going to die? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
So either you know, either they would die or like,
oh he's okay, he's back swimming with the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
But just any little change, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Because I definitely have surprises in my garden.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
And and because it seems like I don't go as
much for a while.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, And I used to do that when I worked. Yeah,
you know, when I had to go for he had
to go to work, and yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Know you might only get out there on the weekends
really and look at it, you know, in detail.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
In the winter you come home and it's dark.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Yes, So I remember telling you guys that that I
never really was an orchid grower. But I was on
vacation one week and we stayed home and I start said,
you know, I've got some orchids I'm going to put
them all together. And I went through the yard and

(43:25):
I found thirty orchids. Wow, containers, And I don't know,
you didn't know, you were like, I didn't know. I
hadn't know I had thirty No. Yeah, So Marguerite said,
hello from a smoky Redding.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Oh, is there a fire? Oh?

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Really, there's eighteen Lisa says that northwest northeast of Shasta Lake,
there's eighteen thousand acres that Oh.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
My gosh, oh my goodness. Yeah, it's not even fire
season yet.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Goodness gracious, no.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
But you know, I get those little alerts alerts my phone,
and there's been a lot of fires around San Diego County,
not huge fires.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
But there's been a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
A lot in lend Poway, Julian, Quiamacca and they they
within a day or so they're out.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
But it's amazing how many pop up.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, they've been, you know, really responsive, like you've been saying,
but you're there is a lot, and there's.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
A lot of chatter.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
There was a few earthquakes up north, so I wonder
if they were affected by those at all.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Felt there was one in Alaska, pretty big one Alaska,
and they there was I think a tsunami warning for
a while.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
A while, I told you, I told you remember the
Great Alaska earthquake of nineteen sixty four. Do you remember, Well? Here,
here's why. Because it was one of the biggest earthquakes
on record. I think it was a nine something really,
So it affected us here in San Diego because it
created a tsunami and that tsunami was going down the coast.
So I'm like, I get eight, nine years old, so

(44:55):
all I know is getting waken up in the middle
of the night. So we pick up where we left off.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
You know, we had that delay and we were able
to eliminate the salacious parts of your story.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
So maybe I'm sorry. I apologize for that.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Yeah, if you could try doing it, clean.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
It up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
G version right anyway, So anyway, and we'll quickly get
to the point here. So anyway, parents woke everybody up
the neighborhood. There were sirens going off all over Pacific Beach,
you know, woo woo woo. So we had no idea
what was going on. They said, hey, there's a tidal
wave coming, we have to get out. We lived a
block and a half from the beach.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
So we're right on the beach basically, and so I
remember getting our clothes on, going outside, and then I
see my parents talking to the other neighbors. They're they're
chit chatting. I'm like, we have to get out of here.
I mean, I'm scared, we have to go. So most
of the neighbors went inland, you know, twenty thirty miles.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Not my dad.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
We're going to go up on top of La Hooya
on the cliffs and we're going to watch this thing
come in. So we went up to the top of
the Lahoya some place high enough, right, right, I.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Mean this is to paint a picure. Sure, Yeah, this
isn't just a hill, No, this is a top.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Of La Joya is Yeah, it's it's far several hundred feet.
There is no tsunami getting the top of the La Hooya.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
But we have a view of the beaches below us. Yeah,
and it's in the middle of the night, one two
o'clock in the morning. And so what happened.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
I think Crescent City, those of you that listened to
us in northern California, Crescent City got hit pretty hard
by this. By this tsunami, the inland areas that, you know,
the boats, so on and so forth. By the time
it got to San Diego, it was like a series
of five or six eight foot waves and that was it.
It blew itself out. Everyone got the okay to go
back home. Getting back to the earthquake in Alaska which

(46:39):
did cause the tsunami which you said here in twenty
twenty five caused more tsunamis or the potential. No, no,
I'm saying, I'm giving you the story, John. The reason
I told the stories because you mentioned there was an
earthquake in Alaska that caused tsunamis.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Four minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Though, Yeah, to.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
See who we are.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
We had that break, we had that disconnection, that break,
and that just throw it.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Here, threw us all off. Read this disclaimer, this discript.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
It's a whole news show to me. The you know
you mentioned uh sixty what.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Was it, sixty four March is sixty four March eighth,
that thing.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
And I remember that time period because do you remember
the I don't know if they had him out here,
but the fifty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I feel like I've heard that name, fifty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
You know, we took a break. I want to come
back and talk about the fifty nine ers. Okay, we
are back guard in America. I'm going to take a
break for BISH talk radio and figure all this out.
But thank you for being there. Brian Me and John
Bagnascar tucking Pello Fox back after these messages. Okay, we
are back from that break. Before the break, John was
mentioning the fifty nine ers, I know, the forty nine ers,

(47:50):
the football team.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Yeah, it's king to tell your story again. If they
go back and listen to this online, will they rewind it? Yeah,
you can rewind it. Yeah, you can wind hear the story.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Basically, in a nutshell, we were evacuated in the middle
of the night because of the Alaskan earthquake because of
anamies and everything turned out okay.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Yeah, But the reason I remember that time period was
because of the fifty nine ers, and you know the
forty nine ers, right right, gold Rush, gold Rush.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Old Rush, not the football team, but actual forty nine.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Ers, right. So the fifty nine ers was when Alaska
was going to become a state, and I think nineteen sixty, right,
Alaska and Hawaii, well it became state.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Fifty nine and sixty were the two years I believe.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Okay, so Alaska probably would have.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Been fifteen nine and sixty for Hawaiian.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Sixty for Hawaii. And the fifty nine ers were a
caravan of people that at least in Michigan. They were
going to go through from Detroit and they were going
to drive the Alaskan Highway all the way to Alaska.
And I think they were you were able to homestead
and get you know, the couple acres of land or.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Some oh like back when the wild West.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
If you made it up there and become a stage,
they'll give you some land, right.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
And they were also talking about the possibility of gold
prospecting in Alaska. So I remember that time period because
my dad was all excited about joining them and driving
up there. Oh really yeah, But my mom had much
more sense than my dad.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Your dad kind of sounds like my dad just so
he does, he does.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
Yeah, So she made him realize and understand that you're
welcome to go the kids and I are staying here.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Oh that's fun.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Yeah, But I do remember that time period. Yeah, and
that was kind of cool because there had been no
new states since what nineteen ten sat when Arizona became
forty eight.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, and speaking of that, it's interesting if you listen
to old TV shows or radio shows and they make
mention of the forty eight states, and you're like, forty
eight oh yeah, this was prior to late fifties, early
six Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, well, you know, back kind of like the trip
there was.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
The the a lot of areas had flags of the
United States, and to see the evolution of the flags
over the years of the United States, and like it
goes from you know, here's the beginning, you know, and
then a couple of years later we added a few
more states, and then, like you say, there's like gaps,
and then there's other states, and then the you know,
so yeah, every everything gets added.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I think John you liked that when it was territories.
You're your big territorial guy.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
What's it what's it called back East?

Speaker 4 (50:30):
It's not counties or cities, it's not provinces.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
It's township, townships, townships.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
I feel like I feel like we saw we saw
that driving through the East coast townships? How many how
many towns did you Everything is told every everything is.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Every five minutes you're paying a toll for something.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Yeah, Michigan though, right, I don't remember any toll roads
in Michigan.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I don't know. I don't know. I just felt everywhere
we went was a toll road.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
You know what, when if you pay all these taxes
and stuff, toll roads seems like a stick up.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, so wait a minute, what are you doing? E
just give me your money.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Well that's the thing is, you know, you give and take.
We don't have toll roads in California, but we have
high taxies.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
Yeah. You know, I hated the tolls in Florida, but
she would rerunt a car. And then you know you're driving.
First of all, you don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Where, you don't know where you're going, so yeah, and you're.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Driving, and then you've got to pull off and pay
a toll and it says correct change only, Yeah, and
no credit card.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Nobody has money, you don't have the change.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
You get a tick a Yeah, they nail you a
tick a correct change a camera.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I can't believe. And how long ago was that? Because
I can't believe this day and the age, and there's
so many ways to pay for.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Something now nowadays, they just it was probably ten years ago.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Nowadays you just drive through them all and it just
takes your license plate and then sends you the check,
sends you the bill and the mail.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a way to do it.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
It's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Or even worse, your life is hooked up to your
bank account. So you drive through there, you know, takes
a picture of your license plate.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
You can register that.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
And it comes right out of your bank account, Thank
you very much.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, it's funny. Toll reds.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Are funny.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
So I was gonna say, I'm sorry. It looks like
a little mini Christmas tree knocked over there.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, I think is spiky?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I tried to move it earlier and it did not
feel good.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Don't touch me tree.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
It is a don't touch me tree.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
It would have to be what spiky.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Arizona arizona you think it is? It looks kind of
like it.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
No, it does.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I don't know. And I didn't read the label because
it just angered me by touching it. I was like,
I don't like.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Thinking hakis and revellias. Some of those can be kind
of pinchy.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I don't understand gardeners who do put those plants in
their yard that are gardeners like you work with roses
a lot. I mean, you've You've got a lot of
work arounds, but they bit you.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
They bit you over the year.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
We haven't understand right, you knowship, But Bogan Villa and
like spikey pines and those spiky trees and stuff, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
I have no desire to put one in my yard because.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
I'm they're not spiky, Yes they are, they're all thornless nowadays.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
Would you would you know Australian lines, would you not
put the spiky varieties in an area of your yard
that maybe you want to protect from critters or something.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
I have no desire to have a spiky or hard
to work with plant that I have to make if
I if I just if it was a set it
and forget it, I think I can live with that.
But I know at some point in time I'm gonna
have to trim it, cut it down, or something that
I would I'd be angry I did that to myself.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
What about apple gum trees?

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Apple gum tree? What is an apple gum tree?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Sounding good? I know what I'm talking about, see right there?

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Oh oh yeah, what is that apple gum?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
I mean it's a it looks like an eucalyptus.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Yeah, probably never heard of the alpule.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yeah, we we have a guy that we have a
guy that.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
One who like maintains the nursery and all that, and
sometimes he's in charge of writing the uh names of
the plants on the side of the can. And he'll
write just like he'll see a tag and he'll just
write out what's on the tag. But that's not always
the information that's supposed to go.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
On the can. So yeah, apple, come, yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
I told you guys, but I don't think I've told
her audience what I did on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Wednesday would have been the middle of the week.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
It was the middle of the week.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Well done, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
But I went to the Huntington Gardens and Library.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Even going up a lot.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
You know what, what are you doing up there?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
That's my second trip this year. But we went up
and we collected forty varieties of roses to ship to
Sanger House.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Who's reading? Who's who? Was with you?

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Becky Janolos and Brian Morris from the California Coastal Roastes Study.
So we went up and we spent all morning there
was I mean to the point where I started to
get dizzy. But we were These were roses that the
Europa Rosarium and Sangerhaus and h needed for their garden,

(55:31):
and they you know, that's the world's largest rose garden.
But I collecting the budwood that they wanted put me
in touch with some things that I had no roses anyway,
that I had no experience with before. And one was
the rose Montecito. And it's a climbing rose and I've

(55:54):
never seen a climbing rose that gets to this height.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
We got to take a break Cocito rose.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Montasido and guess what the height during the break.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Okay, Toolicro, We're going to take a break for BIS
Talk Radio. Back after this to John's continuing story of
that big rose Montecito. Okay, there are very few welcome
back to gard in America. There are very few roses
John hasn't seen or worked with. We've come upon one
now from his last Wednesday experience, the Montecito rose.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Now, this one was not in the formal part of
the rose garden. It was behind the rose garden and
it took a little while to find it. But the
reason was behind the rose garden in the forest was
because of the height and the height is ninety eight
and a half feet.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Wow, is how.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Big it is?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
This is a rose.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
It's either a eucalyptus tree or an oak tree. Wow,
it was some kind of tree. Yeah, ninety eight and
a half feet. That reminds me of the Kiffskate rose.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah right, I mean that's a massive rose. And was
it going straight up a tree or did it kind
of go along its branches and things?

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Is I don't know if the tree had any leaves
or if that was the You couldn't tell. You got it,
you couldn't tell. And and it was one of the
plants that they wanted in Germany. Now there, it may
not be as much of a problem because I'm not
going to grow twenty four.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
It's going to get bit back every year twelve.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Months out of the year, right, Yeah, hopefully we'll get
cut back. But I was surprised. And it's a rose
that was bred by a California breeder up in the
Montcito area.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Oh really yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Right, so when you mentioned Montecito right back to the
county or whatever.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
You're so, that was interesting. I I even got a
couple of cuttings. I'm going to try to root good.
I don't know if they'll route, but I thought that
would be a great plan for us.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah, from my house right right in the middle of
that neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Tell ya, I'm heading to Amsterdam and Norway next week.
Any gardens I should make a point to visit while
there next week? Is it's you know, I mean Amsterdam
and Norway. You're past their springs about Norway, Yes, it's true.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
If you go to northern Norway you can see the
midnight sun, right, what about the scott back from there?

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Northern lights, So you're far enough north to the northern.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
They have the Northern lights in the summer though, because
it doesn't get dark enough.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Yeah, right, yeah. He showed me a picture of the
sun at midnight and it was still a ways above
the ocean.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Well what do you think about Amsterdam though, I mean,
they have a wonderful amount of.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
The ah, let's see, that's Holland right.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Yeah. For tulips were saying.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
No, No, I was thinking of what gardens were there,
because I know in Belgium there were some phenomenal gardens.
But I don't know if i've ever I don't think
i've ever even been to Holland, now that I think
of it, really, Yeah, Belgium, I think.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Maybe you think you danced around it.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
You really that surprises in my dancing days, right exactly.
I don't know. I honestly don't know. I'm sure if
you google as John Holland, they'll tell you best gardens
in Holland. Yeah, I know there's a lot of gardens there.
Yeah there is.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah, so you know, I imagine there's a lot of gardens.
It's surprised me that you haven't been there for something.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
I'd imagine there would be some you know, massive, you know,
botanical garden that you had been to before. They're showcasing
some rose or something. But I mean it's it is
a big gardening area.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
I could be forgetting because that happens at my age.
But I don't recall ever going to Holland unless we
hit maybe a part of Holland while we were touring
Belt I'm not sure. Rick And And when you get back, Tanya, sure, yes, absolutely,

(01:00:15):
I know there's some uh Tivoli gardens. Is I think
a theme park in one of those areas, kind of
like a Disney.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Gardenesque.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
There's a garden place gil Gilroy Gardens, which has those
wonderfully shaped trees, you know those ones that you like
shape shape like a chair and you can walk under it,
and it's braided and all that stuff. Really, neat Rick,
is there a weed killer that is safe to use
on a flower garden that will kill the weeds but

(01:00:49):
not hurt the garden plants.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
There's some grass, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
That will do that, And there's some weed killers that
work in grass.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
But no broad leaf wheat killer will work in the
flower garden, correct, because most flowers are broad leaves.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Yeah. The thing to do, Rick is after that's clear spring,
call the six months and Ricks and Idaho. So six
months you do that in the spring, and you shouldn't
have to worry about weeds all year. But six months cream.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Does prevent seeds from Germany, right, Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
And do our friends have a wheat preventer?

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeahm has pre emergence as well. Okay, and so any
any pre emergent you know, you you know, as John mentioned,
you kind of want to look for one that maybe
lasts a while.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
They have some organic ones like corn glues, glue. Yeah,
I would say, don't waste your time because they've worked
for like thirty days.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Yeah, you have to reapply. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Yeah, But but I will say because I think we've
talked about this with the pre emergence all pre emergence.
The way it works is when you put this great
annual or down, you sprinkle it down, and you just
think that, oh, it's just preventing the seeds from germinating.
But it forms a gaseous layer on the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Top of the soil. And the problem is is if
you rake or if you are actively working like mulching
and clean, you break that layer and you're gonna have
the weeds come up again. So you need to put
the product down and then just leave it right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
And if you put the product down and put a
mulch over the top, that's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
So so remember that when you're using those pre emergents
that they don't need, you don't want to be raking
or working in those areas afterwards, otherwise you're there's no
point in using it, right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Yeah, And you can't use some in a vegetable garden
if you're planting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Sea or a flower garden that you because, yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
But if you but the cool thing about it is
that you could like for instance, say you did put
down a pre emergent and you in a vegetable garden.
You could take your tomato or lettuce and you could
plant the actual plant and it'd be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Or you can take your plant.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Plants first and then sprinkle a weed killer.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Yeah exactly, So it doesn't affect any any plants that
have roots and are already germinated and things like that.
So so yeah, so sorry, Rick, but nothing that you
can just spray in a flower garden, you know. And
you know, Rick brings up a funny idea, because that's
where this whole round up ready plant concept came from.

(01:03:26):
With was like I want to be able to spray
my cornfield and kill all the weeds, but I don't
want to kill my corn or soybean or whatever it was.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
So they genetically modified corn.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
To be resistant to the round up, and then it
would kill it. So you know, you're you're towing a
fine line there, Rick, with the plant.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Engineers, and that was not the problem that they did that.
The problem was that they suit everyone around them around
them that had that modification to corn. It was in their.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Field, yes exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Yeah, so, but not how to win friends and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Influence people, Yeah, especially farmers.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
So Tanya's going to send us a report when she
gets back. You know, I'm thinking the I'm not sure.
I think it's year round. But the one thing you
would want to do in Holland is visit the auction.
The plant auction.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
It's a floral auction.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Yeah, they'll sell plants.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
It's cut flowers and plants.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
And commercially it's they're selling like, you know, who wants
to buy this truckload of this or this carload of this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
You'd be like going to a massive food market for
like for you know, plants, and they.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
Use which is what's called the Dutch clock or Dutch
auction method, where they start at the highest price and
then they come down.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
What yeah, interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Yeah, because then you know, like say one hundred dollars
a piece for these plants. Nobody bids anything. Okay, we
want ninety five, ninety and you never know when somebody's
gonna bid, right, Yeah, if you start low, there's no
end to it, right, you just keep bidding and bidding.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
So okay, well I'm gonna give you sixty five. I
mean how low? How low can you go?

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
That's their thing right there, there, So they must. I
wonder what these numbers that they start off with, because
obviously they you know, they want to get the most
for their doll for for whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
They get, these people will pay that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yeah, like if they start off one hundred dollars, people like, yeah,
I'll bet.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
I've seen that crop and it looks great, I'll buy
them all.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Oh interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Yeah, So yeah, Tony, you try to find that that
floral auction. I'm not sure what town it's in, but
it'll it'll be great.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
And and it's really need to see the different flora's
flowers because you know, like we've talked about before, florists
grow different plants or different flowers than we normally are
accustomed to seeing in a garden center or anywhere else
because grow them for a cut arrangement, and so that
plant grows maybe the way that plant grows isn't great

(01:06:21):
for a garden or for a garden center to kind
of have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
We're going to take a break neat stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
We've got to take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
One more break, one more segment.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Back after these messages on Bistok Radio, all right, here
we are.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Our friend Coleen points out that TIVII is in Denmark.
Oh okay, good, she is one hundred percent correct. In
my mind, I confuse Denmark and Holland.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
It's okay, that's all right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I mean I know they're separate countries, but having not
really spent time in either one though, I think I
did hit a part of Denmark. But anyway, since I
haven't done that, I don't have a clear in my mind.
So thank you for that correction.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
And I just want to mention we are back here
ats Guard in America. In case somebody's last minute joining us.
We can back from the break sometime to pick up
where we left off, and we have to bring people
up to speed, so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Not much time left. About seven minutes enjoy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Yeah, So Lenar points out that tavalis and Copenhagen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
In Copenhagens, and which is the capital?

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
There was?

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
What was the song? Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, wonderful wonderful, something
too wild to see?

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Who's that jewel of the sea. Yeah, Copenhagen's like the
sea town.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Yeah, do you know what's in the harbor? The famous
statue in the harbor of Copenhagen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Is it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Not the No, the famous statue is the Little Mermaid?

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Oh is that where that statue is? I know, I
know I've seen that statue before pictures. Yeah, Oh, that's
in Denmark and Copenhagen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
There's a kind of a funny thing is there's a
rose called H. C. Anderson And I always wondered, you
know who it was named after. Who's who's his famous H. C.
Anders Hans Christian and yeah, just h period period.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Anybody else with any Yeah, Colleen guessed that she knew.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Yes, that, Yeah, that you know. That is the fun
thing about traveling to places and kind of like we said,
the kid really enjoyed Childie because it's like now they
put a picture they actually seen and been to these
places that you see on TV or in a picture.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
You know what. The same thing to Shannon and I
will be watching TV and we'll go we were there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Yeah, Well you know what else famous place we were
there was that place that we stayed in the nice
right on the Mediterranean and there was a road right
in front of us between the hotel and the middle
and then.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
There was a terrorist terrorist the following week.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
And I looked at Dana and I went that that's
our So we always.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Did a great job planning our tours, right, yeah, but
we could have got a better deal had we gone
a week later. We said no, No.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
But Tiger brings up a good point in that you know,
people read you know, history books. You read about it, Okay,
they said it happened, Okay, they said it's over here.
When you actually go there, it brings it to life.
It kids it a whole different meaning that you know
that that that uh, that area comes out of the
book and it becomes reality.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Very true, and it's really interesting just to see the
difference in places. I don't know if I mentioned it already,
but flying back to San Diego from the East Coast
and just seeing how lack of trees there are here
and compared to what they're I'm I'm scared driving down
their highways because they have these massive trees on both

(01:10:22):
sides of the highways and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Almost like they're hanging over the highway. Yeah, and you're
going sixty five miles an hour.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
It's like it about crane and you feel like at.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Any point in time that you could just fall down
over you know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
And I'm like, I told you on our first trip
out west, we camped all the way out and I
think it was when we were in Texas, you know,
out on the prairies.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
See, it was a covered wagon, I told you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
But I was literally dizzy, you know, like you stand
up and you look and you get dizzy. Yeah, because
it's like we're gonna fall. We're going to fall off
of something. Yeah, nothing there to catch us.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Yeah, So Mountainey, so elevation changes and all that. I
remember on the flight driving through and we were passing
We're going to Grand Rapids. So I think at this
point time we're passing somewhere in like one of the
Dakota's or something in that area. It was a real
flat area. And on the map when you're flying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
It shows you the peaks that you can see out
your window, and it was like so and so hill
four hundred feet? Where was the highest peak?

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Have you been to Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
I have not, Okay, the first time I took Eric there,
my son, I don't know back in the nineties, early
two thousands. So and it's it's uh, it's a wonderful area.
It's beautiful. So now you were climbing up these these
mountainous roads right back and forth, and we're going slow,
and I looked to the left. I'm like like my

(01:11:58):
peripheral vision, and we stopped the car and I kind
of jumped, and it was the profile of George Washington.
There was so so bit the corner. Oh my gosh,
it's a whoa. And and just to look at that, though, yea,
is just I'm not positive.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Stare at it. It's amazing, not positive.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
But I don't think they ever finished.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
No, they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
As a matter of fact, they were gonna from what
I understand, it was going to be not just like
heads and bust, it was going to be like.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Right, the whole thing. They haven't finished the bodies yet,
right boy, Like from the waist stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
And if you see those old pictures of these guys
on these on these swings back and forth away, it's like,
how do you get that close to something and know
that you're doing yeah, you know you went deep enough?

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Is never room to do it? From the waist stuff,
I don't know. I mean it'd be like little bobbleheads, right,
these huge heads said these little exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Yeah, the spectacular.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah, it is something to see that you need to
see that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Yeah, oh, definitely to see and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
It was not Okay guys about a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
All right, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Well, thanks for the people that stuck with us. Yeah,
we came back.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
We can't cut our buddy and podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Tanya. Enjoy your trip again, send us pictures and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
A report from uh from your trip to kind of
let us know what are the places that you would highlight.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
And are we back here in the nursery actually.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yep, okay, we'll be back and then we're gonna figure.

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
Out a couple of nursery we're gonna try, right, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
All right, all right, so I guess I guess that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
We're gonna we're gonna call it with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah, we get to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
It's you know, actually it's a little more dangerous side
and leave the studio in most in most cases, when
you leave a studio and go out to an environment
like this, more can happen. But in this case it's
it is more stable. Yeah, we work, so thank you
so much. Enjoying the rest of your weekend. Have a
great week, be safe, and we'll do it again next week.
I'm Brian Main, John Begnasco Tiger Peala Fox from Mission

(01:13:58):
Hills Nursery, San Diego, cal California. We'll do it again
next week. Right here, this is guard in America. Stay safe,
be wonderful, and we'll do it again
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