Outdoor Lighting with Tori Moreyra - Garden America Podcast & Radio Show [3.1.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Check check one, two three, Is this thing on? Is
this ow? The mic is hot? Hot? Mikes hot, Mike's Tiger,
Good morning, Welcome to guard in America. A good visual
for those on Facebook Live, those listening to us on
BIS talk radio. You have to imagine us touching the mics.
They're hot. It's an old radio thing. Hot Mike means
we're turned on. We are ready to go, Tiger, Welcome
to the weekend. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Do you know? Did they Mike's used to get hot
and that's why they say hot Mike. I mean, I
know what it means, like meaning the mic is on,
so you know, watch what you say.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Interesting term. You know. They also tell us, you know
from day one in radio, huh, always assume your mic
is on? Oh yeah, because yeah, you turn it off,
but sometimes it may not be off. And a lot
of people, hundreds, maybe thousands of people in the industry
have gotten in trouble and even fired.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh, politicians get in trouble all the time.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
For that, exactly know. I call it a mic leak.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
There's the famous scene in Nodding Hill where you know
they're shooting a movie and you know, privately having a conversation,
but they're all mike up so everybody else can hear
the conversation. And you know, I mean that's the funny thing.
I used to do little TV spots and stuff like that.
They mike you up. Sure you know you have to

(01:11):
go to the bathroom, You're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Take a break, turning your mic on and off.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well yeah, but like at the same time, like you
got to go take a break, have a bite to
eat or something like that. Like you're miked up the
whole time. So unless you turn it off, or unless,
like you say, somebody else turns it.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's like in football or hockey, they'll have the players
miked up. Now. Now look if if I know I've
got a mic on, Yeah, am I gonna be a
little more dramatic?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Am I?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Am I gonna, you know, play to the crowd, or
am I just gonna be myself and forget that I
have a mic on?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, it's fun, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
So we are miked up for the next hour and
a half or short. Here. Now John is in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, the La Arboreta in the area.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Go now, get there, now, how came he never calls in?
I know it's too much for him.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
How do I do it? You know, well, John, you
would call We could call you on this phone. We
should call our guests, you know, speaking to guests, by
the way, interesting, we're gonna talk about outdoor lighting.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, yeah, isn't that kind of a fun fun topic
because it's nothing that we always talk about, and not
everybody knows the ins and outs, and some people get
just so overwhelmed by you know what it maybe takes
because they think they have to have an electrician to
install it. But the nice thing about outdoor lighting is
what we call low voltage lighting. So it's not that
you know you're gonna break fuses or you know, shock

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yourself to death. It's it's only twelve volts. Normally, you
know what's a battery the ninth volts and you stick
those to your tongue all the time and there's nothing
wrong with you.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah. I get a little kick out of it. Nothing
ninth volt I think that's what we put in our
smoke detector. Yeah, yeah, probably, yeah, ninthfault.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
So twel volts is low voltage.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Is that something your company does as Yeah, yeah we do.
And you know this is interesting because in talking to
you before the show this morning, I'm finding out I
used to think there's really nothing I can have Tiger
do in my condo, just based on the fact there's
not a lot of property I handle my Yeah, and
I did a little deep dive with you this morning,
and I may be hiring you in a few months
or something because I realized that you do more than

(03:07):
just stick plants in the ground. You do lighting, you
do tiling, you do the whole What else do you
do that the average person may not think you do?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
So you know the funny thing about landscape contractors, Okay,
they get what's called a C twenty seven license to
be a landscape contractor. Because you know, the state of California,
it's different wherever you are, but state of California requires
contractors to have certain licenses. So C twenty seven is
what they call the landscape contractor license. And then you

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have you know, electrical plumbing, HVAC, you know, all kinds
of other things from there. And then you have a
B license, which is a builder someone that builds a home.
So the difference between a C twenty seven and a
B is very small because the only thing that is
C twenty seven in a B. You know, difference is

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is things regarding like certain foundations of homes and other
certain building requirements because you know, for a landscape, you
could be building a pergola or a structure, which is
basically a home. You could be installing a barbecue or
fire put on.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Which is the landscape.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, correct, you can install lighting outlets, have different licenses
for that, right, Well, no, but C twenty seven encompasses
all those it does. So when you take the test
for a C twenty seven, you're taking a test on plumbing, heating, gas,
electrical structure, all of that stuff. So, you know, people

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don't realize it, but landscape contractors are almost pretty much
just as qualified as like home builders. Now, they might
not have all the experience in a home builder, and
you know, there's a lot of things that you gain
after you do it over the years, but in all
other premises, you know, when you're building your outdoor patty
or your your backyard room, that is like building a

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room in your home, you know, and they should be uh,
they should be knowledgeable and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Anyways, So that's Interestingay, yeah, I may have some work
for you. I may have something just to kind of
spruce things up. That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And then and then just for some other savvy notes,
So when I went and got my license for California contractors,
I got my B and my C twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
So so I can call you for plumbing issues, Tager,
my toilet's acting up, come on over, and you'd be like, dude, no.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm good. I don't need that. There's
a lot of other companies that can.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, and I use that when I'm doing somebody else's
major landscaping and they're going to put a hot tub
out there or exactly. Then I get into that kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Wait, very interesting, Yeah, very interesting. So we move on
John Toty arp eRating for what's going on up there.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
He's doing the rose not the rose auction. Now there's
a meeting. It was postponed because of the fires recently,
right exactly, So this is a gathering of rosarians again
for their annual meeting. And you know, what a beautiful
place to put it in as far as the la
Ar Boretum, And I wonder right now a lot of
things are still dormant. So all the evergreens are showing

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off up there right now.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I'm seeing a lot of things blooming around town. Especial
boy the ice plant that they they put in several
years ago on some of the slopes.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, man, beautiful, Yeah, just full bloom. That little bit
of rain, full bloom, a little bit of rain, a
little bit of warm weather.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Propole flower. I think I had a late bloom in
my pope, John Paul. You know there's yeah, things are starting,
they're waking up. Hey, today's March first. I know, first
day of spring is what middle of the month, yep, exact. Yeah,
So here we go. Now, people listening to us across
the country Midwest, ye, back East, still thinking like I'm
under six feet of snow and you're talking about plants

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and things blooming in sunshine. Now, we're supposed to get
more rain this weekend. It was a little bit rainy
last night, you know, it kind of spit.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
It was thirty three percent chance last night we didn't
get anywhere we live, and then not today, and then tomorrow,
I think is another thirty or forty percent chance, and
then it starts to clear up after that. So I
think it's just kind of like some areas are going
to get at some areas aren't. It just depends on
where you live right now, it's not it's not a
consistent across the board.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
So outdoor lighting and what's like the guy's name.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Again, Tory with Pompaul Lighting and he's from Argentina.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
He's from Argentina, but he lives in San Diego now,
but he.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Moved his company, Yeah, from Argentina to San Diego.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, exactly. And and you know when it it's funny
with outdoor lighting because you really only see it at night, right,
So you got to be able to, you know, enjoy it.
So you want to be able to go out in
the evenings. But you see it when you see a
home with outdoor lighting, it's spectacular when they do it

(07:51):
right right again, and it adds a whole new element.
I have some outdoor lighting at my home, and I'm
a real cheap skate and.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Uh basic, well, well no and a half hour.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
No no, no, no. I like my outdoor but what
I'm getting is I'm a real like cheap skate and
I'm also trying to conserve so like I mean, some
people have it just come on and off automatically, right,
so whenever it's nine pm, it goes on and then
maybe at midnight it turns off. And I only turn
mine on when I know I'm going to be in

(08:24):
the yard in the evening, so you can see it. Yeah,
so I can see it. But I wish I would
be a person that just would have it come on
and up because when you look out in your backyard
and I see it at night, could, it's awesome?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I could.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I could. I'm just being I'm trying to be conscious
of like conserving.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Energy and it.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
But it also they like we said, it doesn't use
a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Led bowl right now, it's like our patio. So if
I would have put lights up around the sliding glass door,
which is which I could, I couldn't see from the
living room right And the fact of the matter is
that beyond our patio. Uh. Several years ago, we talked
the h away until that hedge grow, because because we
could see right through the parking lot, people would walk
by and look right in. So I called her up

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one day, the manager, and said, hey, can you let
the hedges grow? Yeah, sure, no problem. I'm like wow.
And And the funny part is after our unit they
go back to normal for the other.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Just just for yours for ours.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
So getting back to the lighting, if I put lights
up there, I'm not going to see it. Nobody in
the parking lot is going to say nobody can see
it unless we walked out there and turned around.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
But what would be cool to do is kind of
against the wall, like where you look through the window,
and so now you can see the patio from inside
your house in the evenings. That would be a good idea.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
There you go, after the papers are done, you can
put some lighting up right around there.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Easy to easy to do. Wow.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
That and we have this all recorded today too. Yeah
you heard it. Play it for you.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
You saw it. So that's what Tiger does if anybody
in the area wants to get hold of Tiger. So
we're going to take a break. Let's do the quote
of the week.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yes, why is it a long quote? I forget No,
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Why don't you go ahead and do it? If you
can do it?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
You ready? Yeah, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
All right. Your first job is to prepare the soil.
The best tool for this is your neighbor's garden tiller.
If your neighbor doesn't own a garden tiller, suggests that
he buy one, and that's by Dave Barry.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Of course, Dave Berry. That's the way he is.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You know, it's always uh, you know, it's the saying like,
don't own a boat. Don't own a boat, just have
a friend that owns a boat.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Two happiest days of your life for the day you
buy a boat and a day you sell the boat.
So we're going to come back. We get a lot
of comments so far on Facebook Live, so we'll catch
up with that. We're going to get ahold of our
guest back after these messages. Welcome all of those on
BIS Talk Radio. Brian Main, Tiger Pellafox. This is of
course Guarden America. Stay with us. Well, just like that,
we are back from the break. Those on BIS Talk Radio.

(10:50):
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light this morning. Let there be light. Let there be light.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
And there was light, and this morning we have Tory
with Pampa Lighting joining us this morning. Good morning, Tory,
how are you.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Hey, guys, good morning. Thank you so much for having
me on.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh thanks for joining us. Now, outdoor lighting can be
a bit overwhelming for some people, not knowing where to start,
how to start, how it's even involved. They think they
have to install outlets all over their property to make
it work. But you've been doing this for quite some
time now, and you've moved from Argentina here to San

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Diego with this, with this industry in mind.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Right, Yeah, it was. It was actually a pretty cool story.
I well, I lived in Argentina, I was working for
the company at the time, and the company was in bankrupt.
So I kind of pitched to my old boss to
become a partner and moved to the US to kind
of save the company. A week later, I was on
a plane in La so very scary. Six months later

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I bought the other half of the company. And yeah,
that was like maybe three to four years ago now,
So journey.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's what you call a leap of faith.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
So back in Argentina, what was the lighting company called?
Was it Pampa Lighting there as well?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, yeah, it was the same name of the company,
but the way it was structured, the way we were
doing all the advertising, the products we were selling. Basically,
once I took over, we changed everything.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh okay, And in Argentina, is outdoor lighting just as
popular here as in the US? Or is it more
popular in the US than it is there?

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I would say is more popular in the US, to
be honest, I didn't even know before I started working
for the company. I didn't even know like the industry
even existed.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
To be honest.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
So yeah, I would definitely say it's much bigger in
the US than in Argentina.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Okay, now, now let's get into a little bit about
you know, your company. What exactly does pumpa Lighting do.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
So, we manufacture outdoor lighting fixtures, both for landscape and
architectural and we sell them directly to contractors, designers, developers, architects,
you name it. Okay, we sell these all over the country.
We are based out of San Diego, but yeah, we

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shipped them out all over the country. Whole business model
that we have is that we don't sell to local distributors,
like probably ninety eight percent of our competitors. We jump
over these local distributors to sell directly to the contractor
or the designer. So that basically allows us to cut

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out that middleman and like all the profit that they make,
we just pass it on to our customers as a saving.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
So on the downside, like we're not on the shelf
of every store in the country, which is a bummer,
But on the other hand, we have a ninety eight
percent customer return rate, so once we do connect with
that contractor or that designer, they usually end up coming
back for more lightning for their future products.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
And at the same time, like you say, you might
not be on the shelf, you know, but where that
fixture is, you know, one hundred dollars on the shelf,
maybe they can get it for ninety dollars from you.
And you guys are really quick about the turnaround because
nowadays with shipping, I mean, you know, you're in San Diego,
but you can get in order out and you know
you can get it to someone within a week or

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so and you know have it there right.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean orders on the West cost it
takes twenty four to forty eight hours, and then like
the further you know, on the East side to Florida
to New York for example, it takes about three to
four days.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So oh wow, pretty fad, even quicker than I thought.
So so let's talk now a little bit about outdoor lighting.
You know, oh real quick before we get into the
outdoor lighting ideas. Yeah, you guys sell lighting, do you
guys sell transformers and the other parts that they need

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as well for the for the lights.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Were like the one top shop for anything that you know,
the people need for outdoor lighting, from the light fixtures, transformers, wires, connectors,
any types of adapters, zimmers, all the variants for elied
ebolbs which can be a little bit confusing, you know
with all the lumens and beam angles and all that stuff.

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So we yeah, we stock everything to the one top
shop for out the light.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah. So now let's let's talk about outdoor lighting. Now.
A lot of people are like, oh wow, I don't
have outlets all over my house. I you know, don't
want to run power everywhere. How do you even do this?
It starts with the transformer, correct.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yes, So most of the outdoor lighting that you see
out there, especially for residential it's what's called low voltage,
which is twelve olds, which means you don't have to
be a certified electrician to be able to shoe work
around it. So this can be a great EOI project,

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you know, for your own home. So since these are
twelve volts up to twenty four volts, you need a transformer, right,
So you that's what you connect to the outlet, and
then you run the twelve cable all over the yard
to do the connections with the light yeah outlets everywhere.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, So that transformer plugs into an out from and
then from there you're just running wire through the yard
to get the lights to wherever they need to be,
right exactly. And and you know that wire that's running
through the yard, like you say, it's twelve olds, so
if you accidentally cut into it, if you you know,

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if something happens where you know it breaks, it's not
it's not like wires in your wall, right, it's very
low that's not going to create like a fire or
anything crazy. And then and then you have the transformer
to protect you back there at the wall too.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right exactly.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
That that's that's exactly how it works. So it's a
it can be a great eire project, you know, for
for somebody that wants to get their outdoor light into
their home. That you don't need to be a certified
electrician in order you know, to do this type of
outer light.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
And and so speaking connecting to that wire. You know
at places when you buy lights, they have these little
clamps at the end that connect to that wire. Some
some lighting you splice the wire and you just simply
connected with waterproof wire. Nuts. What are your fixtures like?

Speaker 4 (18:15):
So ours are where you need to spice it. We
that's the way that we manufacture these as they are.
That's the the best way for there not to be
a loose connection. Whenever you do the installation those that
come with an existing clip, you're kind of taking a

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risk there that down the line, maybe in a couple
of months or two, there's going to be a a
loose connection. So when that happens, it's you know, it's
a it's a huge, you know pain because you need
to go out there to the yard, try to find
where the problem is, do all the troubleshooting. So I

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nearly the best is to splice it and do a
proper connection, so you can ensure that's not going to
be coming loose.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Perfect Hey, Tory, we're going to take a break. When
we get back, we're going to continue talking with Tory
with Pampa Lighting about what kind of light fixtures exist
out there in the world.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
We have lots of activity on our Facebook page. Any
questions for us, so our guests to Tory let us
know this morning talking about outdoor lighting and hey, if
you're gardner, landscaper, a d do it yourself for then
this is for you in terms of lighting and learning
a lot a lot about it this morning, and yeah,
it is safe and we'll learn more about that after
this break. The break is for biz Talk Radio Brian Maintiger, Palafox,

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John is off today. Back after these messages on biz
Talk Radio, stay with us, all right, thank you for
hanging in there, and welcome to those on Facebook live
biz Talk Radio. We do appreciate it. Whatever's on your
mind in terms of what we're talking about this morning
or over and beyond right there. If you're a facebooker
on our Facebook page on the comments section, as we
continue to discuss outdoor lighting and how you may incorporate

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that in landscaping, if that's which you're thinking about doing.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, So, Tory, we have one question that did come
across a viewer on Facebook. And I don't know if
you have a solid answer for this, but the question
is is is is there any research with outdoor lighting?
Does it affect the plants at all? Like you know,
I mean meaning you know they're accustomed to being dark

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at night and now you have lighting on, you know,
is there any effects on the landscape.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
That's a great question. I've never heard that coming. I've
never seen that being a problem with any of our
contractors or any of our gardeners. So I don't want
to confirm, but I would say no, since that hasn't
been a problem in the last four to ten years
that we've been we've been doing this.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, and I will say on that that you know,
we're talking a very minimal amount of life.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
We're talking LED now right, well the most part.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Well not just like LED, but I mean when you
walk into a backyard that has landscape lighting, this is
not a stadium, you know, meaning there's still dark spots,
there's still areas where you can trip and fall because
you can't see your feet, you know, we're not talking
you know, giant lights that are just illuminating the whole

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area and then staying on for you know, the whole night.
So I think that there's usually such a minimal amount
of light that it wouldn't effect Now I will say though,
because of people that are in areas that maybe get
some frost or you know, maybe some cold temperatures, some tropicals.
John's mentioned this, and you know they will wrap Christmas

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lights around plants and not the new led Christmas light
but the warm but the old you know, incandescent lights
and it'll actually yeah, like keep the plant warm, you know,
to prevent frost. So so you know, that is one
way it could affect the landscape. But I don't think
the lights itself would affect the landscape.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, it's a lot of what you say. It's not
so much you know, to light up the whole thing
like a stadium. Is more like accent lighting, to to
to accenturate like the most important parts of the property.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
So that brings us to where we're going next. What
are some types of lights? What are some words that
people use in the industry. You know, there's up lights,
there's down lights. What kind of lights are they are
there and what do they do?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
So, yeah, there's a lot of different lights out there,
especially now there's being like new lights design in, like
new categories created. You know, one of the most popular
lights that just started to come out, you know are
the strip lighting those like strip lights or some people
call them the rope lights that go underneath like the

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steps or the retaining wall. So like, not only is
there just like the standard collect the standard categories that
you see every single day, but there's new categories that
are being made and designed on the daily. So it's
it's very cool. But to answer your question, you know,
one of the most popular type of categories, you have spotlights.

(23:14):
To start, I would say the most popular spotlights is
mainly used for uplighting the focal parts of the property,
so you know, trees, big statues, flags, any part of
the that's more going to be like iconic of the property.
That's when you use the spotlights. Then you go to

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to the pathlights. The pathlights are used for walkways and pathways.
A lot of people using for driveways too, basically to
mark down the area so you don't trip, there's no
trip hazard and you can just you know, just walk
safely at night. Essentially, you then go to floodlights. Floodlights

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get confused a lot with spotlights. The different with flood
lights they're also called wall washers. They're mainly the difference
with the spotlight is the spotlights more of like the
focal type of beam, where the flood light it's more
it has a much softer bulb and it has it

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usually has a frosted lens, so the beam is going
to be much more diffused, and it's great for rockbits,
flat bets, and like small walls too. You know, in
ground lights, in ground lights, they're called in ground well
lights too because they go in the ground completely submerged,
their flushed. Depending on like the cap on the top,

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you can use them either for path lighting, you can
use them for uplighting. There's a lot of different uses
for this light depending on the cap that you use
on the top. You know, there's different situations where you
would use this, Like you don't want to use this
foru a tree that's going to be losing a lot

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of leaves in the winter because the leaves fall on
top of the well lights, so they're going to color
it up. In that case, you want to use something
like a spotlight that's going to stick out just a
little bit more. But yeah, like a lot of the
well lights are used for pathways and I personality, I
like to use them for uplighting walls is on, like
the walls on the house.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah. And also to hit on that note because we've
run into this situation for people that have young kids.
I know you mentioned about the leaves falling. You know,
obviously you know you've got to have an uplight that
sticks up. But for properties with young kids and they
play in the backyard a lot, those in ground lights
for uplights are great too, because you know they're not

(25:46):
knocking them over, they're not dragging stuff and then you know,
moving it or breaking it. Yeah, so they're excellent for
that uplighting. But in the environment where kids are not
going to break.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Them kind of a thing, Yeah, totally. And it's not
just it's the dogs, it's the gardener, it's the foot
traffic if you live somewhere like the other day, we
did a house where this customer had a lot of
foot traffic because she was like right by school, So
all the kids that came out of school, they would
like take over the lights. And stuff, so we had

(26:19):
to put the inground lights there. So the kids went
to you know, ye you're playing around with it.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, okay, so in ground anything else?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Uh yeah, there's you know, there's a lot more all
the lights like sconces, you know, goes that go on
the walls. We do a lot of sconces on the
pool cages over on the East coast, like in Florida.
Then we do a lot of like one twenty vault

(26:49):
Wisconsins for like their houses in California, for that type
of style. And the pillar lights too, and then you
go into step lighting and the heart scape lighting. All
of those that go underneath well the heartscape A lot
of people call them under cap lights too. They go
like underneath the top zone of the the retaining wall.

(27:12):
That one is very popular and it's used a lot.
Then you go to step lights that within step lights,
you have different categories depending on you know, how you
want to install these. Some of these come with the
junction box in the back, so you need to install
them before you do the concrete pore if you were
to have you know, concrete steps. Other step lights that

(27:35):
we have or what's called a surface mounta light, so
you just screw it onto directly onto like the face
shehell of the step. So yeah, there's a lot of
different types of categories for outdoor lighting, for sure.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
And then and then within the category, you know, I
tell people a lot because I work a lot more
with like the uplights and the path lights, you know,
and like you say, there's a lot of other options
out there, but you know, the pathlights, you know, you
can have a huge range in price because you could
have a pathlight that's just just a simple up pathlight,
little umbrella top and then you know shine light, but

(28:09):
then you can have it, you know, made out of bronze,
very ornate, and so you know, you can have one
light that does the same job and it could be
you know, one hundred, one hundred and twenty dollars, but
you could have another light that looks way different, maybe
made out of a different material, and it could be
three four hundred dollars, And it just depends on the

(28:30):
look that you want, right So you know, and I
tell people, you know, the lights that you see, you know,
the you know, it's going to depend it's kind of
like your your you know, Dana mentioned the drippy fauce
at your house. But like a faucet at your home,
you know that people are gonna see. You might spend
a little bit more money on that faucet because people

(28:51):
see it. You want it to be nice. But meanwhile,
the faucet in the garage sync you're gonna get the
basic faucel care. You know, it works, it puts water up,
you know. So, yeah, there's a huge spectrum in that.
We have about a minute.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, we have about a minute.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Before our next break toy. And one of the things
I want to get into it after the break is,
you know, the difference in lights out there too, because
like you mentioned before that the lights that you sell
you can change the bulbs in, which is a critical
aspect of outdoor landscape lighting where the lights that they
sell at a lot of box stores they're set in

(29:28):
and you can't change the bulbs. It's an led that's
in there, and when you need to change the bulb
or the light, you have to change the whole fixture,
which brings us to a whole realm of other things
that we are going to talk about. So when we
get back from the break, we're going to continue chatting
with Tory with Pompa Lighting. I did put the website online.
It's right there so people can click on it and

(29:50):
see some of the light fixtures that we may be
talking about.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
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(30:14):
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to you because I've got to get something out of

(30:35):
my mouth. My tongue is getting in the way with
Tori with Pampa lighting.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
And before the break I'd mentioned you got to be
careful because some of the lights that you may buy
nowadays from a box store online, they don't necessarily come
with the option to change the bowl. You know, it's
not right. You know, it's a set in led board.
They tell you the looms, they tell you the wattage,
but you don't have the capacity to be able to

(31:01):
change that. So when you buy that, if that ever
goes out, you have to buy a whole new fixture.
You don't just have to buy a bulb. But at
the same time, it doesn't give you the same control
over the light that you may for the one of
the fixtures that you sell toy, So why is it
important for you to be able to change that bulb?

Speaker 4 (31:20):
You know, just going back to your question, there's like
two main types of outdoor lighting fixtures or I was
I wouldn't say outdoor lighting fixtures, but two types of
pictures in general. Right, So you have those fixtures where
you call them integrated, where the LED is built into
the light fixture. So whenever that LED goes out, you know,

(31:42):
five six, seven years, you need to replace the whole
light fixture. Where the other category is called drop in,
so it's a drop in bulb essentially, when the LED
goes out, instead of replacing two hundred dollars fixture or
like one hundred and fifty dollars fixture, you just replace
a ten dollar bolve. And there's a lot of people

(32:05):
that like integrated more. They say you get more of
a punch on the lighting. I don't completely agree, and
I don't think it's worth it. There are some situations
where to have an LED you need more space within
the housing of the light fixture. So there are a
couple of situations where there's no way around it. You

(32:26):
need an integrated light picture for those smaller type of lights.
So one of the lights that you'll see out there
a lot that's going to be integrated out of step lights,
but you just have different types of lights. But yeah,
whenever we can stay away from integrated, we do because,
as I said before, I think it's a much smarter

(32:46):
to change out a ten dollars bob than light picture
that's going to cost you one hundred and twenty dollars.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, Carlo's got a question. Did you see the question? No,
I'll get to that, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
But also Tori being able to change the ball gives
you options, right, because they sell different bulbs. Why what
what is the difference in bulbs.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Well, in bolves, you have different type of like specs
that come with the bulbs, which when you have a
drop in light fixture, you can play around with the
ball to get the exact light they want. Right. So
to give you an example, our spotlights, they come with
the five bulb twenty seven k that's the color temperature

(33:29):
and then the beam being beam angle is to thirty
six degrees, so that's like the default bulb. And then
when we sell that bulb, if the customers like, hey,
I want more more power, I want more lumens, or
I want a beam that's going to be a little
bit wider, you can change out the bulbs. So it
kind of allows you to play around to get the

(33:50):
best you know, light attack for your property.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, going back to your questions, you have the wattage,
so the water which is related to the lumens, which
is going to be how bright the light is. Then
you go to color temperature ninety I would say ninety
five percent of jobs out there that we do or
more are twenty seven hundred kelvin. Then it's like a

(34:16):
warm white and then you go to the beaming. All right.
So depending on the size of the tree or depend
or what you're trying to uplight, you can go with
the more narrow beam, which would be a thirty six
degree beam, or a wider beam, which would be like
a sixty degree beam.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, and all these make the difference when you're in it,
when they're out there in the landscape and you know
you're trying to shine you know, up a tree or
you know, maybe a bush. You know, like you say,
you're going to use difference. The color is a huge
thing too, because you know, I mean, nowadays it's so
hard because the a lot of LEDs give it that
like blue look, and a lot of times you don't

(34:56):
want that for your landscape. You want a warm, you know,
natural while kind of look. Hey. So the question that
came across from Karla is does your company sell solar
lights or is are those dirty words in your in
your industry? What what do you think about the solar
lights that are out there on the.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Market, solo lights. I we don't sell solar lights, but
this is my opinion on solo lights. I think so
solo lights are the future. I think there is going
to be a move over two solar lights in the future.
But what I do think is I don't think the
technology is there yet for there to be good solar lights.

(35:41):
So problem with solo lights is they work, okay, is
for the probably first six months and then all the
all the light comes out of one single led. That's
the problem with solar lights. So after about you know,
four five months, you really see the light output of

(36:04):
that solar light come down a lot. So are the
solar lights good now? No, they're not good. Are they
gonna be good? They're still not there yet, but they
will get there for sure.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the technology is catching up,
but at the same time, like I agree with you,
it's not there yet. And also I almost feel the
solar light companies are shooting themselves in the foot because
you know, I mean, like we talk about, you know,
you could have a fixture and it could be one
hundred and you know, twenty dollars, okay, you know the

(36:38):
solar light fixtures that you see, they're like, oh, you know,
eight dollars, ten dollars, and it's like it'd probably be
better off putting something really good together and selling it
for one hundred and twenty dollars. Then then to have
their price point be so low that, like you say,
they're just putting out ones that you're gonna change every
six months or eight months because they're they're just not

(37:00):
that good.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
The other problem with that is not just you know,
how much light it gets out or the quality of
the light fixture it looks, because when you have a
solo light, you need to have that solar panel, and
let's be honest, that's that that panel does not look good. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean. So that's another kind of

(37:22):
tricky part for the solar lights. How they how they
design a good quality light that you the solar the
solar panel kind of blends into the design of the fixture,
which again I said, like, we're still a long way
away from that.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah. So hey, we are going to have to take
another breaks break, right, we got a news break when
we can. When we get back, we're going to talk
about some of Tory's favorite light fixtures that he has
on his website and how people can buy them.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
And again those on the Facebook Live You have any
more questions comments as we come back after the news
break on BIS Talk Radio to wrap things up with Tory,
but get your questions and now and after that, after Torri,
it's going to be Tiger myself for the rest of
the show, So do stay with us obviously BIS Talk Radio,
Facebook Live and again coming up on BIS talk Radio
News top of the hour six minutes after we come back,
and much quicker on Facebook Live. John is off this week.

(38:13):
I'm Brian Main, Tiger Palafox. Welcome, thank you for joining
us here on Guard in America. Well we are back.
If you're tuned in on BIS Talk Radio and just
joining the show, this is our two Welcome those on
Facebook Live that come and go. We appreciate you for
hanging in there as we get back to our conversation
with Tory outdoor lighting and then wrapping things up Tiger. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
So Tory your website Pampa lighting dot com. People can
go on there shop the different fixtures. You have the
price right there. Can people buy directly from the website?

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, So the people buy Jessie from the website and
then contractors and designers develop first Happy option to create
a contractor account. We have two different programs, one for contractors,
one for design signers. Contractors get a discount on you know,
the product price, get the free shipping, and all the

(39:08):
orders get a better customer service, you know, a couple
of other products, and then designers. Since we don't sell
two local distributors, we don't get the exposure that all
of our competitors get by being in the shelves. Also,
what we did is we created this designer program where
we pay designers to spec out our product. So every

(39:31):
time a designer spects out our product and then the
third party contractor buys the lights, we give that designer
a commission. That's basically to make up for the lack
of exposure that we have by not selling to the
local distributors.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Got it. What are some of your favorite lights that
you guys do so.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
So, one of the you know, one thing that has
been very trendy right now are the light fixtures with
the two tone color. So if there's called stellvi o BAB,
so BAB stands out for black antique brass. So it's
a light fixture that has a little bit of so
it's like a black light fixture with the antique brass details,

(40:16):
and I just think it looks very modern. It's been
selling very well, so it's really the only company that
has that. So that's been very popular. So the Stellvi
O BAB spotlight, uh Stelvio s h BAB path lights,
those have been very very good products that just came

(40:37):
out and they've been selling very well. Other lights that's
very very trendy right now that it's it's been a
boom probably in the last you know, four or five months,
have been the strip lights. Strip lights, it's something that's
very trendy right now. And then we almost do strip
lighting on every single project. So those sell very very well.

(41:00):
Like the strip lights, the one that's called Neon side flex,
the striplet that bends so when you have those ninety
degree corners on those steps, there's no need to cut
it like to cut it. It just bends sideways. So
whenever you're doing the installation, it's so so easy to do.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Okay, And so with the strip light, is it the
same kind of principles as the other lights where you
can use that twelve that that twelve volt line and
then connect it to the end of the strip light.
Now can it be incorporated like can you continue that
line and then have uplights on that same or does

(41:38):
it have to be a dedicated line.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
That's a great question, Tiger, Well, we a lot. You know,
most of the companies out there that the manufacturer striplights
do what's called that twenty four vault DC current. It's
just like the specs of it. When you do twenty
four DC you need to have a separate line with
a separate transfer just for the strip lights. That makes

(42:03):
the whole inflation process a lot more difficult and a
lot more expensive because you need to waste a lot
more wire and then you need to get a new
transformer just for the strip lights. Right when we designed these,
since we already sell you know, the light fixtures that
are twelve bolts AC, we wanted to make sure that
the strip lights that we designed are twelve bolt space, right.

(42:26):
So we did a lot of research, a lot of development,
and you know, the two main models that we have
right now on the website are twelve bolt SAC, which
to answer your question, yes, they can go connected to
the same line and the same transformer. So that way
for whoever's doing, you know, the strip lighting, you can
connect it to the same line as the spotlights and

(42:47):
path lights and all the other lines.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
That's amazing because, like like you said, we ran into
that problem all the time where people want to have
that strip light, but they didn't realize that you had
to have a completely different lighting system to incorporate at
and you know, it was difficult to make it all
work together. So that's awesome. That's so. And even if
you you know, even if you do have an existing

(43:09):
lighting system with a transformer, this is something that you
can add on to it, so that makes it awesome
as well. It doesn't have to be you know, you
don't have to do a new install with all of
the products that you have. It could be add on
to there as well, which which again I want to mention,
you know, because twelve volt's pretty plug and play. Even
if people have an existing system, the products you sell,

(43:31):
they can be incorporated into what they have now, right Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, yeah, of course, as long as the transformer solve
a A C, which I would say like nine percent
of them are. Yeah, you can add our lights to
your your existing system.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
No problem. Cool. Hey, lots of good information. I shared
the website. You know, people you know, go on and
cruise the different products. People can order them online, work
with your favorite contractor or designers. Well, and you're updating
stuff all the time. I mean, you know, this is
always changing, so there's always new styles, new colors, all

(44:08):
that stuff. Right, so you know the website we visit
today might be different in a month from now for sure. Yeah. Hey,
thank you very much for joining us, Tory. Have a
great rest of the weekend.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
I appreciate you guys having me on today.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, yeah, great job, Thank you very much. Thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Okay, take care bye bye.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Well, see, add a whole nother element to your patio there, Brian.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Here's the deal. We have listeners and viewers all over
the country, all over the world. Yeah, okay, you're not
all going to have access to toy. But what he
explained to what he told us this morning, you can
now take that information to wherever you go, and you
have an arsenal of information to make the right decision, yeah,

(44:56):
to ask the right questions to whoever you deal with.
As I learned a lo I mean, this is great
that you don't have to be, you know, somebody walking
around with one hundred thousand dollars in your pocket to
set up a good system with the technology that's available today.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
And you don't have to have all the ins and
outs and knowledge you know that, you know, I mean, yeah,
it might be good to have a professional lighting person
out there for her to help you. But like if
you're just trying.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
To do something simple and like a couple of trees,
you could do it yourself and you can get creative.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, with that.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And that whole rope light and strip light that he mentioned,
that is a big thing, because that is something very
popular right now.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
People have them in their houses, they have them in
their rooms. I've got one across the bottom of my aquarium. Yeah,
it's like five feet.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, but that one has to be plugged into an outlet.
It does, and it has a little transformer box that
came with it, right, and everything else. Well, the beauty
behind his system is it was difficult in the past
to incorporate those into the landscape, but it seems like
nowadays they've found a great product that you can just
if you already have an existing land escape lighting system,

(46:01):
you just plug this into that.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Let's get back to the solar lighting he talked to Oh, yeah,
this is funny. Yeah, because a year ago. For the
past couple of years, I've gone to the dollar store
and they sell those little.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Solars, right, yes.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
And they last about about a year. Yeah, Okay, they're
a dollar. I don't care. But he's right in terms
of how long the solar is going to last and
how they they eventually will if fade away. Well, we've
had these now for over a year. Yeah, and just
by luck they look as good as they have. It's
it's amazing different times of the year, angle of the

(46:37):
sun less less. But I mean, you know, I know
they're a dollar. I don't care. But he's right about
the long term with solar in terms of that. And
I would imagine too with solar, once they get it down,
they could go on and off by.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Themselves, right they do.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
They do go on with what I mean without a time,
without having a hookup a timer.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Well, they do already because usually what they have and
this is something that you know is good to know
for the landscape lighting people too, is there's a couple
of ways for your system to turn on and off. Okay,
so you can manually turn it on and off, you know,
you know, either hook it up to a light switch
or something where you can turn it on and turn

(47:16):
it off manually. You can set it on a timer
where it turns on at eight pm and turns off
at two am. You know, you can put it on
a photo cell and this is where the solar ones
come in. A photo cell senses daylight and when it
gets to a minimum lighting amount, the system turns on

(47:37):
and then when the light comes back out, then the
system turns off. That's the you know, or you can
do a hybrid of both where maybe you want it
to turn on when it's dark, but you don't want
it on all night, so you set it to turn
off at ten pm or eleven pm. So so those
are the ways that the systems can be controlled. The

(48:00):
device that you're incorporating with the solar is what's called
a photo cell, and you can incorporate those into your timers.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, so many ways to go. Yeah, let's see, we're
close enough to a break, so let's take the break
right now. Okay, back with Brian and Tiger. Whatever's on
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(48:27):
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Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know, the outdoor lighting topic is a big thing
for a lot of people with this whole I forget
what it's called, but in Arizona it's called like a
dark sky city or something.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I mean, when you're when you're out beyond well, well.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
What the you know they're finding is a lot of
our urban areas are very they have to have a
lot of light pollution. They have a lot of light pollution.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I think Carla mentioned that in terms of not being
able to see the stars anymore.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, that's what you know, we're kind of getting at
with is that, you know, you're supposed to have lights
turned off at night because you know, there's animals, there's
the idea being able to see the stars.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
It's it's a natural thing that's supposed to occur.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, and so you know, I mean when it comes
to the landscape lighting, yeah, that is something that you know,
you do want to consider. And that's why I said,
maybe maybe it's on from you know, dusk to eight
or nine pm, yeah, you know, and then turn it off.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Off when you go to bed. But here's the thing
you can you can there's there's a lot enough lights
out there that you can tone it down too. I
would imagine, well.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
This is it is you know a lot of the
light we're not telling you to, you know, completely illuminate
your backyard so you can see it from space.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
These aren't spotlights, you know, but.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
If you can have a couple of lights that you know,
accent some trees and maybe illuminate some areas that you
may trip if you're working through the yard, then that's
all you kind of really need to need to have
see Tiger.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Do you recall, and I'm not sure when these were
phased out, and I know that there was probably good reason.
Do you remember, like, let's say there was a grand
opening someplace. Oh, those big lights, big circus light lights.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I think they had them going on at snap Dragon
last night because they have that women's soccer game going
on this.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Week, because I have not seen those. Yeah, I mean
when I was a kid for miles away, Yeah, and
you'd go, I wonder what's happening over there, it would
be like a supermarket or a mall grand opening or
some car lot, and these things were like you know,
it was like the bat light, which was stationary obviously,
but you can see these things for miles you don't

(51:09):
see it don't seem as often anything. Yeah, and they
would really pinpoint a location. Is there such a thing
as light pollution? Yeah, I mean I'm wondering because you don't.
And they were lit by like a you couldn't really
stare into it much like a candle.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Like a candle about there's no candle that can do that.
There were fire giant light.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Bulbs, not a fire candle, but it was a different
kind of a bulb that looked and was shaped kind
of like a candle putting off all this light energy. Yeah,
well it wasn't you didn't light a match and you know.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
You had to tow those trailers behind a truck.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
But uh yeah, I just don't you know, but you
you thought you saw them.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
So, yeah, they're having that big event at Snapdragon this
week this weekend. It's the She Believes Soccer tournament, right
and there. You know, it's funny living over there by
snap Dragon. I see a lot of the pre work
that they do before events. So they have to like
practice their their lighting, they have to practice their video

(52:08):
boards and all that other stuff it is. And so
I see them doing that. And last night when I
looked over there, I saw search lights. Yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, So speaking of lighting, Yeah, you know, they measure
you know, horsepower with engines, and I think there is
a way they measure light, like you know, fat loom
candle candle light.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, it's kind of like you say, a horsepower.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, and that's what I remember with these search lights.
You just don't see them much anymore, but you could
see them for a long way. Yeah, and they would draw.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Your ten thousand candles ten thousand candles.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Exactly. We caught up. I have to keep turning my
head to look at the computer here.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oh, I think we caught up. There were a few
things I was going to read. You know, Carlo was
mentioning the whole light pollution thing, and you know, you
can turn off your lights, but you can't turn off
the city's lights, which you know the I think the
cities are becoming more savvy to it. And like I said,
I know for a fact in Arizona they have a
rule that you know, you cannot have so much light

(53:10):
in a commercial building and a private residence and all
that other stuff, because they do try to keep the sky.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, taun of dark.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Maybe maybe our listener from Tucson can tell us what's that.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Well, that's why when you drive out to the mountains
at night, when you're way away and you look up
and you can see the Milky Way, you can see
so much of what you don't normally see obviously within
the city.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, exactly. And then John and Bonnie Livingston we use
strip lights to accent outdoor steps at night and they
work great. You know, and they can bend him.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
That's that's the key. You can bend him as well.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah, they can fit into everything. Lisa wrote that her
ace where she lives carries fertilom. You know, so you're
sure to go in there, and and Veronica mentions that
she remembers the spotlights. Search lights use a carbon arc
to create the light, one huge candle. As you know,

(54:07):
you were saying you were making fun of me. Well,
I mean you were saying, as a candle.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
You know what. The listeners and viewers have explained it perfectly.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, exactly. So, Yeah, I think we're all kind of
caught up. As you said, spring is right around the corner.
Things are starting to bloom. We didn't we have not
gotten the rain that we normally have, but that didn't
stop things when we did get that rain to start
turning into spring. Right, so things are starting now.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
You just hope we get a little more. We need to.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
We need a little more. Absolutely, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
So so now is when you start, at least myself,
maybe you go outside a little more, look around what
needs to be done?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Ye before leads stand the weeding?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Ya before too long, you'll be needing to water a
little more, hopefully enough for a month or two. Yeah, Inland, Yeah,
probably even sooner.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Dad. I was out in Poway this week and they
had a massive Santa Ana wind blowing through there. Yeah,
and it was very dry and very warm.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Because even yesterday it was windy.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I go out for a couple of walks during the
day around the complex and I'm like, where did this
wind come from?

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah? So yeah, that hot, dry wind will definitely wick
out moisture of plants real quick, so make sure to
stay on top of the watering for that. Yeah, because
it's always good to keep your plants well hydrated, right, Brian,
that's how you like to well hydrated.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, absolutely, But don't over water. You know, you have
more problems overwatering sometimes than you do keeping up on
the water. Most plants will tell you there's there's indicator
plants obviously that that droop and let you know, I
mean sun patients I think are one of those.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, you talk about that.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
They will tell you I need water, So maybe my
buddies around me need water as well. Yeah, but just
be you know, anybody that's been doing this for any amount
of time, Nos.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Well, and you kind of learn the schedule of the plants.
You know that you know when they come out, you know,
are they gonna need more water? You know, they start
emerging flowers or leaves. You kind of go from there.
But I love it when the plants become naturally accustomed
to wherever they're at. Those paintbrush lilies that John gave

(56:22):
me a few years back, now where I had one,
there's three blooms.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I've got four blooms on my big one. Oh, really unbelievable.
And this started off in a little ye think about
a year ago. I transplanted it. Yeah, and it just
took off. I mean it's huge. I can't even pick
it up to move it. Well, take a couple of
people to pick it and put it in a big pot.
And I've got three or four blooms on there. Just beautiful.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah, we got to take a break. All right.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
We've got two more segments, a quick show. Whatever's on
your mind always you know, we're open for business here,
Facebook Live, questions, comments, love to hear from you. John
is off this week. He's back next week. We'll catch
up with John next week. We're going to take a break.
I'm Brian Maine, Tiger Palafox. This is Garden America. We
have returned from the break. It is Garden America. We
thank you for joining us. Hope your weekends off to

(57:10):
a good start. Many of you begin your weekend with us.
We appreciate that spending part of your time. And again,
John back next week. He's up at the la O Boretum,
and then we'll find out about the rose situation happening
up there. John will give us details. We always encourage
him to call us, but.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
You know, yeah, he always forgets about us. John and
Bonnie posted this is something good for people to know.
Up at Rogers Gardens in Newport Beach. Tomato Mania is
going on right.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Oh you had one?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
No, we have not yet.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh not yet.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
It happened in a few weeks down here in San Diego.
But you know, Tomatomania a great event, a lot of
opportunity to get some new rice, some different frises of
tomato plants get you going for the season. So if
you're in Newport area, go visit Roger Gardens.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
You must have a sweet one one of your one
of your favorites.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Uh sweet aperteeth, efte We talked about I think a
good one.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah, we did talk about that. I think was that
one you gave me a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yes, John John really enjoys that one too. But then
there's the you know, the sun Gold and all those
other ones too. I am not a huge sweet tomato fan,
so meaning you know, I'll get one for the season,
but usually my focus is going to be more on
the slicing tomatoes.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Now, slicing tomatoes are excellent for like hamburgers, and might not.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I just do salt, a little bit of salt on my.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I'm just thinking to get really creative. If I could
get a hold of a real sweet tomato, yeah, and
prepared like let's say a hamburger or something for somebody,
and not even tell them what I'm doing. If they
would go, wow, this is this is a different taste.
What what is this?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
So that would be a challenge though, because you'd have
to get a sweet slicing tomato.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I know, you know what I mean, because a lot
of the sweet.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Ones come more cherry. They're small, and they're small. But
if you could get a sweet slo slicing tomato.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Yeah and uh, or you can get a sweet tomato
and turn it into more of like a salsa that
you can put on the burger, So it's more like
a not a paste, but like you know, like a
then it would.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Be there sweet slicing tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
We'll have to have about that, you know what, that's
an interesting question.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, we'll have to have them on from Tomato media
and see what the what the sweetest slicing tomato or
if somebody's working on that, yeah, or's working on in
a lab like you say, like you always like to
envision them in little coats.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
They got their goggles, there's their steam and speak and beakers.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, there's there's things bubbling. Yeah, for sure. They have
those metal tubes going. Did you those glass tubes?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Probably before your time? Do you remember chemistry sets? Yeah,
all right.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Before by time. Chemistry has been around.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Since No, I mean that they sell to kids back
into sixties.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Oh yeah, the ones that actually had things that blew
up and.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
The pad poison and mercury and all kind of stufff boy,
the things we did back when, the good old days
when you.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Have lawn darts, yeah, exactly, slip and slides, when you
actually could create an explosive from the chemistry set that
you bought at target, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
And maybe even accidentally put it in your mouth and
taste it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, those chemistry sets, they had crazy stuff
in them. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
You can go back and you can research commercials on
YouTube and yeah, there's a guy that's got a channel
and all he runs is commercials from the fifties, sixties
and seventies. Oh really, and you're thinking to yourself, Wow,
those products are long gone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And that really existed for a while. Yeah, you know,
we laugh at it, but it's like, no, no, no,
that was a real thing. People were selling, you know,
these items and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
When we were kids too, we would get bows and arrows.
Oh yeah, yeah, and we had there was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
A they did not have the suction, no real but
there was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
A big grassy area at the catam Ran Hotel back
in the day before they you know, all the construction,
and we would go there and like point them up
in the air and shoot it as high as we could. Yeah,
where's it going to land? We don't know, hopefully close.
It's probably just as irresponsible as taking a gun and
firing it up in the air and helping the bullet

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doesn't land.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
On somewhere on someone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
But the things we did as kids that you know, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Nowadays it's yeah, exactly nowadays, they took all the fun
out of it, all the life all the life threatening.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Foe like riding in the back of a pickup truck
with no seat belts.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah. But but I mean, you know, it's funny because
you know, back to kind of gardening. It goes back
to some of those some of those weird things that
used to exist. And I mean we've talked about a
number of chemicals and products, you know, over the years
that have come and gone, you know, whether it's bugs

(01:01:56):
or fertilizers. But even then, if you you know, and
we've talked about the plants, meaning you know, we talked
about eucalyptus trees and we've talked about these giant hedge
trees that it's like, no, these are not smart to
plant in our landscapes, in our yards. But even then,
there's the there's the really you know, obscure products out there,
I mean that have come and gone. You know, nursery

(01:02:19):
cans used to be metal, you know, they used to
be metal cans with these really jagged sharp edges on them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Uh, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
You know, and you know, just the idea that used
to buy things in bear Root, where you take it
home and it was wrapped in paper bag and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
You talked about chemicals. I remember as a kid in
the garage. Oh yeah, fertilizers like yes, a in a
almost like a beer bottle color brown with a skull
and crossbones. I had no idea what the product was.
I think I had enough sense to stay away from it.
But you know, just draw it on a shelf someplace
anybody could get their hands on it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, exactly, So you know, I mean, it's it's it's
evolution of our knowledge of these things over the years,
you know. But even then, when it comes to gardening tools,
you know, whether it's saws or pruners or or or
different tools as well that people use in the garden,
you know, we're we're evolving every year with how to

(01:03:16):
make them work better or you know, what works better
and what doesn't. And then you know that's I'm still
waiting for the self digging shovel though it's just not
there yet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
You know, there's there's a difference between a better product
and a product that is safer. Sometimes they go together.
Sometimes they go together, but sometimes because it has to
be safer for new regulations, it can become an irritant.
I remember back in the nineties doing a whole new
renovation on our house, almost top to bottom, and the

(01:03:53):
guys tell me, okay, we're putting in these new toilets, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
They're oh, they're like the low flow California rules.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
What do you mean low flow? He goes, well, you're
not gonna like it. Yeah, And so he showed me
and I went, are you sure everything went down? He
goes yeah, but compared to the old ones. Yeah, yeah,
so there was something to conserve water. Yeah, but in
terms of convenience and in terms of is it better,
well not really. Now we're used to it. Yeah, Now

(01:04:21):
I don't know the difference. And that was thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Low flow toilets, low flow shower heads, remember those too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Yeah, trying to get enough water pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, exactly, like the little hose is spitting on you
to take a shower, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Speaking of what you said something a few minutes ago
about we've learned not to plant those in certain areas. Yeah, Now,
were you referring to close to the house, close to
the sidewalk?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yeah, just in general general, like you mean root systems
just like that. Yeah, could be close to your house,
could be close to your sidewalk. Could you just in
your yard. You know, if you've got a small yard,
having a sixty foot tree that's gonna have a third
canopy is probably not the best.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
There was a eucalyptus tree. It should come down the
steps the pathway to our house, right to the right,
which we had them take out. I'm gonna guess eight
nine years ago. Yeah, And I mean you're talking about
close to the house and the foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Oh my gosh. Oh. I was at a house in
La Joya this week and I was walking through. They
were asking me questions and I saw their water meter
on the street where it was, and they had a
Washington palm starting right there. I think I feel like
it was attached to the water meter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
And I was like, you guys, you got to get
this out asap. They didn't live there either.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
So it's an older a tree, right older.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I mean no, it's a new one. It was only
about four feet tall. But I was I was saying,
they don't live there. I'm like, this could ultimately break
your water meter and you could have water flooding for
rights before anybody gets to there. Wow, And it's not
going to be an easy shut up. So I said,
you gotta you gotta remove that asap. But they just

(01:06:08):
were like, oh, they just saw you know, it was
a volunteer, and they just were like, oh, it wasn't bad.
And I'm like, no, this is not good. And then
there was one across the street. I said, that's what
it's going to turn into into.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
We've got about a minute until the break. We've got
some comments and questions. I want to make sure we
spend most of the next segment, which is our final segment,
catchack up, catching up on whatever we did miss So
hang in there. I'm referring, of course, to those on
Facebook Live. We've got about a minute. Is there one
you can answer Tiger that you see it quickly before
the break and we can carry it over over. If
we have to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Received a pot of tulips for Valentine's Day, how can
I keep the pol tulips for next year? Will they
grow in Allied gardens? You could, but you have to
dig them out and refrigerate them next. They have to
be cool to be cooled otherwise they will not bloom.
So we can get into that a little bit more
after the break. But the short answer is, yes, you could.
The long answer is is a lot more work do

(01:07:00):
you want to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
You want to do that? Okay, we're going to take
a quick break and one more segment to close up,
close out the show, I should say, and we'll get
to your questions your comments on Facebook Live. Brian Main,
Tiger Palafox.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
This is and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Always will be still is Garden America. Take care coming back. Okay,
we are right back from that break. Those on bistalk Radio.
Thank you for supporting our sponsors. Big thank you to
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for the Facebook questions and comments. Tiger, we talked about
tulips just before the break.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
All right, so back to the tulip question. So, tulip question.
Tulip bulbs, like some of the bulbs require chill to be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Able to bloom, so many hours of chill, right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Yes, and so in Alli gardens in southern California, we
do not get that chill. So you know where they
are naturalized, you know they'll have snow and they'll have
frost and you can leave them in the ground and
the next season the tulips will come up. Because that
doesn't happen here in southern California. What you have to
do is simulate winter. So what that means is right

(01:08:01):
around December, you would go out there, dig up your toolips,
put them into a paper bag, throw that in the
back of your refrigerator for about three months or so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
So make sure you have room, yeah, you know, make
room for them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
And then you can take them out of the refrigerator,
put them back in the ground and then they would
come back up and they would bloom, and you know
you could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
But you got to replant them again. Would would you
just not want to go out and buy more bulbs?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Well, that's just the thing is. You know, the bulbs
that you purchase from a garden center or online, normally
they should be listed what's called pre chilled, so they're
already been they've already been refrigerated, or they've already they've
been grown in an area where the chill has been done.
And so when you buy them, you know they will
bloom every year. So it just depends on how important

(01:08:50):
that bulb is to you and how much energy you
want to put into it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
It's like orchids. Yeah you want to just buy another
one when this one dies, or you know, yeah seen better.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Days exactly so so so I I think that that
answers the question. And there's a whole group of bulbs
that follow those same principles, so you know, watch out
for watch out for those. Marguerite wrote, she loved the
pineapple tomatoes. It was sweet and large, and there there

(01:09:21):
there is a few tomatoes with the name pineapple in
it and that are usually larger and they do usually
have a very sweet flavor to it. So that's a
good recommendation. Is anyone selling grafted tomatoes anymore? You know what, Carla,
I don't. I'm not sure. I don't see them, and
you know we do not, so I I think that's

(01:09:42):
kind of a tough thing to find. But Loghouse log
House Plants.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Where that was the organ we were still doing several
years up there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
So if you maybe reach out, she might have some
She might have some people that are still selling selling
them that you can buy them online from the Loghouse Plants,
So check with Alice at Loghouse and for no not
running uh Thomas wrote The old Hollywood search lights were

(01:10:19):
called kleigue and used carbon rods. Most today's search lights
use xenon mercury or argonne gas.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
See, I knew we bring up a topic and someone's
going to explain it to us and clear the air.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yep, exactly, So I think we're all cut up right there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Then okay, we've got let's see four or five sad
about four minutes through.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Sue, just that I have a hard time throwing away plants,
plants away which which again you know you you, you know
you have that same problem, Brian. But sometimes you just
gotta do it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Sometimes you gotta cut the cord.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, exactly, just yeah. I mean, if you pick something
to replace it that makes you happy, you don't remember
the old plant. No, you don't remember the old plant
that you didn't like and didn't do well for you
or was struggling. You just only see that new, beautiful,
wonderful plant that you're happy is there?

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
So you think about that unless you've got some nostalgic
thing tied to it. Was a gift from so and
so or These were given to me in remembrance of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
No, and those are very important that keep you, you know,
if that, if that was a tulip that was given
to you and it's a memory, sure, you're gonna do
everything you need to do to keep that tulip alive
and healthy and fun, and you're gonna dig it up
every year and you're gonna replant it every year. But
if it's just a tulip that you bought at the
grocery store because you thought it was pretty, and you
were like, I'm not gonna dig this set every Yeah,

(01:11:49):
get a new one. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
So as everybody asks me on a Saturday, what's the
store for you? After the show?

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Got soccer, last soccer game of the season for Isaac.
He's got to sleepover birthday tonight and his birthday. No,
it's a friends. We got lacrosse in the morning, Tossia
had her middle school dance last night. We got it's
fun filled weekend, you know, and then you know yardwork.

(01:12:17):
Like I said, I'm gonna be weeding this weekend. I'm
gonna ge out there and we stay on top of that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Yeah, because it's moist, right, Yeah, it's easy. Yeah, Well,
you know what you got.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
You know, I'm not sure anybody's ever said this, but
you have to be in shape to have kids, especially
kids your age, you got to be in shape because
you're always going.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
It's you don't realize you're a schedule. I'm sure in
the house right yeah, in soccer, lacrosse.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Every once in a while, I have a little break
and all of a sudden, I'm I'm like, we have
all this energy and I can't go to sleep, and
I'm like, well, it's because I've been running around all
day like I normally I am. So it's something, yeah, exactly,
fix something, Yep, that's what I'm gonna do. You're gonna
fix something.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
I'm gonna get I'm gonna buy a bathroom life because
the fixture up there, this one light bulb keeps well,
not one, there's several. They keep burning out or they
just don't. They don't stay very long and they're LEDs. Yeah,
so's it's the it's that little circuit that there's four lights.
So it's that one individual. It's not worth it. I'm

(01:13:17):
going to go out and buy another one, yeah, and
put it up because because and then I'm gonna seriously
look at the paper situation with the patio. Would love
to have something done by the summer. We've got the
fountain there. We just have to move the plants.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to move the plants.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
For that work. But yeah, that's that's something. And just
get ready for the warm weather.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Get ready, you know, a little bit warm weather.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I did a commercial this past week which I thought
was a little silly because the opening sentence was, summer
is right around the corner. Oh yeah, okay, okay, spring
is right around the corner. Yeah, summer is a little
bit off in the future. And I thought, you're getting
ahead of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Your whole season. You're bypassing well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I was talking about summer season, kids and activities and
things like that. I would have written it this way,
with summer not too far away, not right around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
They want that sense of urgency though they want to
That was probably Stopummary. It was a summer camp in
stressing out us parents to sign our kids up for
all the summer camp.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
No, everyone's getting rushed. Everyone's getting rushed. Fourth of July
decorations up already.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Hey, we're gonna we're gonna call it quits, or at
least close out this show for this week. This particular segment,
this particular show of Garden America. John is back next week.
He's in Los Angeles this weekend, so until then, enjoy
the rest of your weekend. Thank you for joining us.
We talked about lighting today after lighting, learned a lot.
Enjoy it. Like I say, at the rest of your weekend,
have a safe week, and we'll reconvene next week right

(01:14:49):
here in the iHeartMedia and Entertainment Studios located right here
in San Diego, California. I'm Brian Maine's Tiger Pela Fox.
We'll see you next week right here on Garden America.
Take care,

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