Summer Gardening Strategies & Seasonal Maintenance - Garden America Podcast & Radio Show [6.21.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we are back here in Garden America. Now. The
reason for that long and usual break is this week
we have a lot of sponsors, more than we've had
in the past, so we had forty sponsors. We had
to squeeze in there before we returned for the second
segment of Guard in America on your Saturday morning, if
you are indeed listening to us live, so we are back.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
You said during the break that it was electrical problem,
that we were losing power at some serious seatpit.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Which is interesting because one of our sponsors is a
power company. So anyway, this, if you're keeping track, is
our second segment on BIS Talk Radio and Facebook line.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, and if you left, we don't blame you.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Right, but we are back. Well, you know, Tiger did
a good job. He's very you know, he's dedicated to
the problem solving of this show, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I am dedicated to the problem solving.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Of this show. So we are back. And if you
did leave, then you can't hear us right now.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
But if you didn't, welcome back to the program.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Welcome back to the program because I kind of have
a serious fun thing I wanted to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Because John had such a wonderful article in the newsletter
this week regarding the man break route, and I was
going to ask the question to our listeners, what is
it that you plant in your garden that is a cure,
a remedy or something, and you just simply planted to

(01:28):
have it, Like, for instance, I have lemongrass in my garden.
I have a Yeah, so you have alvera.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
It works on burns and sores, and you keep it
there just as right outside the front door, perfect like
a little medicine cabinet outside the front.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Door, medicine cabinet.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I've told the story on the radio before, but when
we first moved to California, I was working in San
Marcos and we had a big al vera plant outside
the nursery and my son, who was nine months old
at the time, was walking and which was kind of

(02:08):
unusual for a nine month old. But he in the
house we had moved into, pulled down the tablecloth and
there was a pot of hot tea that he pulled
down and it burnt. It fell on him and burned
his shoulder.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I remember the quack doctor what he told you.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So we rushed him to the hospital, but on the
way to the hospital. I had to go buy the
nursery and the yellow plant was in front of the nursery,
so I stopped got the aloe and we started rubbing
it on him all the way to the hospital and
he stopped crying as soon as we did that.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Very cooling.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, so it was really cooling. Well, when we got
to the hospital, the doctor was all upset and said,
never put anything, you know, on a burn except for ice.
And he said he'll probably have permanent scarring now because
of the us So, I mean really, yeah, So they

(03:04):
wiped off all the alo. He started screaming again, but
then they put something on calmed them down a little bit.
We went home and three days later we're supposed to
have a follow up visit to the doctor. We went
and Burne was completely gone, completely healed. Yeah, And doctor
said he couldn't figure out why. I'm concerned. I believe

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it was because of the al it.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Was, and I mean there's a lot of medicines out
there that are real medicines and they're just simple plants.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, we were talking earlier before the show, or maybe
during the extended break, we were talking about how all
virtually all the medicines we have today came from plants.
I know, some come from you know, like other creatures
like sharks and things.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
But remember, really I guess, but those are plants.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That doctor of yours is a good example of. If
I didn't read about it medical school, if it wasn't
taught to me, it can't work. So it's it's and
then we've come.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
A long way since then, right Obviously, Well, Tiger and
I were also talking about guests we had on the
show a couple of years ago, Cassandra quave Right, and
in her her whole life is devoted to studying studying
historic folk medicine, right to find out what they used

(04:37):
to use to treat things when they didn't have doctors,
because really it hasn't been that long we've actually had
modern medicine that was available to people, what they used,
and she tests those plants and finds out what the
substances in that plant that actually is helpful. So that's
a whole new area of medicine.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
And it's really interesting because it goes beyond just medicine
from the standpoint of you know what I mean, I
think we all know this, Like a really basic example
of this is our teeth. You know, before before dentists
existed and toothbrushes and all the wonderful things that they
sell to us to keep our teeth healthy and strong.

(05:21):
I mean, we might not have had great teeth as humans,
but our but our teeth were okay. And well then
they're like candy. Well then it's like now candy cuts
about diet, different foods come about, carbohydrates and all these
things that now breed the issues with tooth decay. And
now we have way more problems with tooth to gaate

(05:44):
because of our diet versus before when we were eating
basic plants.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
And hygiene affect your organs, yeah, affect your whole.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Body, yeah true, yeah, exactly. So so it goes beyond
just like a medicine, it also has to go to
the point of, you know, did we really need did
we really need high bructose cone corn syrup?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Did they have sugar before sugar.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Sugar cane and before molasses?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Sugar cane would have come from uh tropical country.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, Caribbean, And I think that whole that whole region
was the birthplace of it all.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay, so prior to Columbus, there was no sugar.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I think what they did.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Sugar in Europe wasn't that old, you know, with cinnamon
and all those spices and stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Was sugar traded honey and molasses and then like other
like syrups existed before sugar, like as like a sweeteners.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's what they used to yeah, for sweeteners.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, because I mean honey was back and even.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, John the Baptist honey. You know what do you
say survived on John the Baptist honey and locusts?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I've always wondered about the lowcus part.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well, that's where you get protein. Well.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
No, the reason I've wondered is because carab pods, which
grew in the area, are also referred to as the locust.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh really Yeah, so you think it wasn't the actual bug.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well it could have it could have been. Yeah, I'm
not really sure. I don't I guess you'd have to
look back into the Hebrew of the Greek to find
out what those were, right. Yeah, But speaking of the Bible,
there was a good last week. One of our listeners, Carla,

(07:37):
had brought up a question that we didn't answer until
later in the show about the man Drake, so got
me interested to go through and write a little article
for this week's newsletter.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Right, so check that article out in the newsletter that.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Was about Rachel and Jacob and Leah, you know, talk
about patients. H Jacob before he wanted to marry Rachel, right,
so he worked her dad said, you know, Rachel's dad said, well,
if you want to marry Or, you've got to work
for me for seven years years and then she got her.

(08:19):
He got her older sister, Leah, which you know really
wasn't fair. So he had to work another seven years
to get Rachel.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
We got a break here.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Can you hold that? That's where the phrase best of
both worlds comes from?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
How about that? We're going to take a break for
biz Talk Radio, Facebook Life. Hey, thank you for joining us.
Whether you're watching or listening, this is Garden America. Oh
much quicker break. We just had one sponsor there. We're
never going to put forty sponsors back to back again.

(08:54):
It just does not work. So we are back here
in Guarden America having a good time. Brian Maine, John Magnesco,
Tiger Palafox. I love it when John quotes various people,
whether they're historical, whether they're sports figures, whether they're horticulture,
and he has a quote this week and it's from
which one of those categories, Gertrude Jicyl, Oh, doctor Jekyl

(09:20):
and mister Hyde.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah you remember that story.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I sure do. And it's really Jicyl, but it became
Jekyl at some point.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
What's seeing English pronunciation and they were English, so it
is Gertrude Cheeks.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Just like going out in your herb garden, so it actually.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Was Jicyl and hide probably anyway, before we explain that situation,
the quote from Gertrude Jico was a famous gardener in
the early nineteen hundreds, and she said, what's one to
say about June the time of perfect young summer, the

(09:58):
fullness of life and love and delight. And that was
in honor of the summer solstice, which was yesterday, right,
which you didn't so summer ten.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
So that's the longest day of the year, right.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Right, and then in December you have the winter solstice.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Which and then you have the summer equinox unless the
spring is it the spring equinox, and then the fallox.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Right, The spring equinox is the vernal equinox, okay, and
the fall one is the autumnal equinox.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
You bring up a good point about the equator.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And on the equinox. Do you know what the day
lent is on those two days.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
The twelve and twelve? Yeah, yeah, it's equal equal ox.
So this is so the longest. So now, is the
longest day of the year always the long like meaning
the same? So let's say it was I don't know
what it was. So let's say there was eight teen
hours of daylight yesterday. Is it always eighteen hours? Or

(11:04):
is it sometimes like, oh, it's the longest day of
the year this year, but we only get seventeen and
a half.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Is that like fanks Giving or some other holiday falling
on a different time of the month.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, yeah, it always falls on the what third, the
last Thursday? Is it the last? I think it is,
you know, but that could be right, you know, the
twenty fourth, It could be the twenty second. Yeah, yeah.
Do you know, John, is it always the same amount
of daylight hours for the longest day of the year
or the shortest?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, yeah, well there's twenty four hours. We know that.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't think it is. I think it changes. I
think it changes because I think it's really based on
like a lot of a lot of angles and distance
from the.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Sun, that whole earth access thing again exactly. O.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, do you know that this is the shortest day
of the year. This is yesterday was the shortest day
of the year.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
If you're thinking in terms of nighttime, yeah hours or what?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
No, if you live in Australia.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh okay, right, yes, it's the opposite, just the opposite.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
So you've been you've been down Under before, only in
the airport. Oh you didn't know, but you were in
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, so New Zealand's not referred to us down on.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's south of the equator. So here's my question there
I got too.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Well, first of all, Australia is the land down under.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
But but when you're south of the equator and you
flush the toilet, it goes the other way. You know.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
That was the first thing I did in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
That's exactly what I was going to ask you. Second
of all, we have a term here that if things
let's say, you did you start a project tiger and
it just doesn't work and you say, yeah, we started
things went south from there, right.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, So you're saying nor so Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Do they say, well, things just went north after that?
If you're if you're down south of the equator, yeah,
just did We started the project, it didn't work, and
things just went north.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think can still keep saying south because south of
them isn't a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
All right, let me step further. You're in Antarctica.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Now, you got nowhere to go.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now it just went east from there.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, it's nowhere to go but up the exactly. They
always have to look at things on the bright side
down there.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
How about questions and comments? John, I know you're checking
out some of the people that have rejoined us. Talk
about dedication. Yeah, I would love to say we've got
a prize for each and every one of you, But
I can't say that it's us.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I can say it it is us.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That is the place, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I never heard this. Sherry mentioned that a few years
back when she was attending the Culinary Institute of America.
That's the c I A. Oh, she got to burn
on the palm of her hand, and the chef put
on a slice of tomato. Tomato, Yeah, said, relieve the

(13:58):
pain in seconds with minimal blistering.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
What is the what is the thing? Also is it.
Do all tomatoes have the was it?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
No lecopanes? Like what's good for you? Right?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
But I think tigers referring to indigo tomatoes, which all
have also have antoscionis.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
But but only do all tomatoes.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I was going to say, what kind of tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
With the purple pig?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
So yeah, which the next question is could all tomatoes
react that way? I'm talking about the tomato tomato that
that he put on the palme.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well this was the red one.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well yeah, because her hands red and burned, so you
put the red tomato one there. You can't see it anymore,
by the way I.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Was then, and then the chef yelled at her and said,
get back to But.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I just wonder if all tomatoes would put it. If
you're done with the tomato, chop it up. Put in
the south. I was thinking of the story you told
me about, uh, you are dressing a garden club. I think,
oh yeah, and this was recently made something up.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh, the one where I said the scarification scarification and
stratify stratification.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Right, you got this mixed up?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
No, I just didn't even strat scarification was cool, like
it's scratching, scratching, that's and then you can think of
scar scar and the stratification is when it's.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Cold right here in the stratosphere, and and I.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Just like, was, no, that doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
But the reason I thought of that is Veronica asked
you a question right now. Yeah, she said, doesn't molasses
come from cane sugar?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Does it? I thought it was. I thought it was
a sap too. I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's a question.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Don't think it maple syrup on trees.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I thought that's what molasses came from, too, But I
could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You know what, Every show on the planet really relies
on their listeners and their viewers because when when you're
doing a show like this, and.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
That's how we test if they're actually listening.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, because when you say things that might be a
little silly, you're putting yourself out there. So that's why
it's always good to say, well, it could be. Let's
see what our listeners reviewers think about that.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
By the way, Carla points out, Brian, don't plan things
too late tonight because the days they're getting.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Shorter already already already, and we're still a month away.
From football training camp two or whatever. It's kind of
the beginning of winding down, you know, into fall and winter.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Got the rest of the story from Sherry. Okay, okay,
she said it was just a common tomato.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Okay, right, But then she adds the.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Chef also gave her a large glass of wine. Oh
that's funny.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's good, minimal scarring.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
She forgot all about it.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
When we were in Costa Rica, we all or a
lot of us. Anyway, Sherry was one tiger, I think
was another, and my wife for sure fell in love
with the pink Bohemia. And when we got back here,
Sherry found somewhere we could order them, and I think
we got them from Florida, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
But anyway, she sent me a picture of hers doing
great bloomed at flowers, and mind died. Oh no, I
don't know what I did.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Live.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I was so disappointed.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
She lives in a very hot area of San Diego.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, things happen.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Things happen, they do.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
But I was really disappointed because my wife really liked Again,
we've spent the I think it's maybe a little latent
spring with her, but she got it in her head
that she has to clean the back patio. So I'm
using the back patio as a work station, and I've

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got all kinds of stuff back there, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Because it's a nice sheltered area.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, and I can say and I'm working in the area.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Well, anyway, we had to clean that all up. She
had to replant everything.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's just going to get dirty again, right, because it's
still your workstation.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Well, she went out and moved she moved him.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
She bought yeah, two new lounge chairs that she set
up back there.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
And yeah, and we went to John now has the
lower lower area in the full cell, the lower forty. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, she mentioned, you know, we have an umbrella in
the garage that we haven't used. Why don't you put
that up over a table and we go side. Yeah,
it's just not as convenience. So anyway, I'm trying to
keep it clean. But we had some old I should
take a picture. Maybe I'll put one in the newsletter.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, it'll last longer.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, but we had a dressina massagana uh uh is
a massag is the playing green one? Also message we're.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Gonna take a break us this when we come back.
Jean and Tiger discussed this year on Garden America Facebook Live,
Biz Talk Radio. All right, we are back here on
Garden America. If you are tuned in on BIS Talk
Radio keeping track of segments, this would be the final
segment of our one. News comes up for them, not
Facebook Live, but you've got news. We come back at
six minutes after on BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live again,

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one continuous loop. As we continue, We're still on the air,
by the way, as far as I know, so welcome back.
Let's continue the conversation.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Break happened was you had and you and Tiger had
everything set to pre summer solstice settings. Everything was getting
longer and longer and longer, and now it's got to
be getting shorter.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
We discussed this and you said you wouldn't bring it
up live on the air. Well, and of course you
did to make us look foolish.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I'd like to have an open show.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
We want to be very transparent, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Do want to be transparent massage. Yeah, and that's the
plain green one, right.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It has a variegation too, it's just the larger leaf one.
Then okay, but then there's fragrance.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Oh, fragrance is the one, right, that's the plain green
I think, so, yeah, okay, anyway, we used to have
it in the house. Then we put it out on
the patio and put it in a planner. And at
the base of it, she didn't like the fact that,
even though it's a triple stem, she didn't like the
fact that the base was bare. Right, that's the way

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they grow.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
That's the way it is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, So we planted it up and I had it
had been planted up last year, and this year I
went through fertilized it cut everything back so it filled
out really nice. So she added a kalladium to it.
So we've got variegated fusion there. Let's see impatience and

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then the kladium and it really looks I have to
admit it looks awesome. And then and we had some
other plants. We had some palms that needed to be
cleaned up. So everything got replanted, recleaned and and we'll
see what it does.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Did we get to Tanya's question that thinks she has
a question about before she runs off to play with
her grand kids.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
And to be clear too, yeah, molasses comes from sugarcane
or sugar beets.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Oh, so there were sugar beets, right.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Sugar beets. They've been a run for forever.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
But did they use sugar beets?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
And yeah, I don't know, but definitely honey existed.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
When you get home, called Shannon, my little sugar beet,
A little sugar beet.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
What is Tonya's question that we have the answer before
she runs John?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I think John's reading.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think she's having a pigeon problem.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
She said that Brian solution. Then yeah, she.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Said the neighbors had tried. By the way, she's in Roseville,
which is outside Sacramento, right, correct, So are you moving
Tanya from San Jose to Sacramental? Yeah? Anyway, she said
that it's a bad pigeon problem. The neighbors tried facal's

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that and CDs and shiny things, and now they're thinking
of putting a huge net over the roof to keep
the pigeons out and get rid of all.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
The statues too. That's the first thing.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
The statues attract pigeons right right now?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I know that for just basic birds on fences, they
like to put up what look like nails or whatever
on top of fences.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's what that's what they done. On buildings where pigeons
there's huge flocks of pigeons, you know, cities like in
Europe and stuff. Yeah, they've got those nails so they
won't roost. There's you know land.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
You know, it's interesting when I back in the nineties
when I I did a reconstruction on our house and
we tore everything down to the very bare minimum. So
we put up a fence in the back, and my
buddy says, I got an idea. You know, within the stucco,
we're gonna put like shards of glass, just break it up.
It'll be kind of artistic looking. And then on top

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of that, on top of the fence, we'll have like
different angles of glass and stuff and it'll look kind
of artsy and it'll keep the birds off it. I thought,
you know what, go ahead, and it worked and I
liked it. It was really unusual.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh any other pigeon scram Yeah, ideas.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean, you know, there's a lot of you know,
they hit all the big ones as far as you know,
spikes or the predator birds, you know, but a lot
of it's just like other repellent kind of things. From
the standpoint of you either have to close off where
it's nesting, you know, so sometimes it's ceiling up any

(24:15):
kind of like vents or openings. And then there's the
ultrasonic things that you know, motion sensor. And then they yeah,
we don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
You know, I don't think it's a pigeon problem. I
think it's a pigeon waist problem.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Well, it's it's what you have a lot of birds
too in a garden. But I mean there's a lot
of weight bing up stuff and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Are pigeons that destructive? Oh yeah, I think, so what
do they do? Tell me what a picture the driver?
That's what I'm talking about. That's when I say waste,
That's what I'm talking that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Don't have the problem without the pigeon.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
The pigeon that I know. But so the pigeon itself,
you know.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
The waist is just a byproduct of the pigeon.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's exactly. That's why. So it's not the pigeon himself,
it's what comes out of the pigeon.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
If they learn how to use the bathroom properly, there
you go, it's training. Yeah, so maybe maybe it's not
a repellent issue. You have to have a training course
for these pigeons.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
So your your thought is if you can train them
to deliver notes and letters and come back home, you.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Ought to be able to your patio.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, exactly. Now we have a lot of doves in
our patio who since we've set up sort of a buffet,
a fountain, a nest. They we don't have that problem.
They go elsewhere. I had a long talk.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
They keep their area clean, they do.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
They don't bring it into the patio.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
What is it, You don't don't boop where you eat?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah? What's that like when you when when you date
somebody that you work with, don't fish off the company
pier out of the company pond.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, by the way, Tanya's not moving. It's her son
that's building a new house.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
And okay in Roseville.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
But she said that the poop does wash off easily
and they get like twenty pigeons on the roof at
one time.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, that is a problem.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
And it isn't that what baby guns are for.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
There you go to it and I've heard it creates
like problems like the poop, like as far as like
staining and you know all of that.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You well, that was the next thing. Then you know
what what's the byproduct of that.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, just be glad it's not parents, or you'd have
cytacosis to worry about.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
That, which would cause unusual seepage possible.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, it could, so I think if it's on the roof,
you've got to come up with that. Those nail spikes.
I bet you could even buy something online, right. Oh yeah,
they have nail spikes that you can lay out.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
You have the like little sheets that you can even
like you're saying, yeah, just attached to something, but then
you know they're just gonna move, so you really it's
really like a multi a attack, nail spikes, all of
those things.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
We gotta take a break here, I know, we just
got to stay on the clock, right.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Warning, Yeah I did.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I just jumped in. I know, what do you want
like this, like like five minutes to go.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Something like something.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
So we're going to take a break. News coming up
on BIS Talk Radio. But hey, rest asshured Facebook Live.
We are coming right back. Stay with us. This is
Garden America. Hey, welcome back, my friends to the show
that sometimes ends well, actually it's gonna have to end
this week at some point, but we are back at
this hour two on biz Talk Radio, stealing a line
from Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Welcome back, my friends, to

(27:38):
the show that never ends.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
The book and the movie The never Ending Story. What
about if we did a never ending podcast?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh my gosh, Well we'd have to then we.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Never have to worry about whether we can hook up.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
We'd have to have a flying dog.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
He's right, the flying dog. I thought it was a dragon.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
It's a dog. Dragon didn't look like a dog.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I thought it looked exactly like a dragon.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I mean, I could peach dragon, right. What that was
a Disney movie we're talking about, you know, but I
went I segued into peach dragon because you guys can't
remember if it's a dog or a dragon.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Uh, Tiger's gonna look it up. He'll let me know.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Go back to your question that we were.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
If you find a picture of a flying dog, let
me see it, because I could. You know, I'm at
the point where I never say that I'm right anymore,
because I could easily be wrong.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Nobody's right if everybody is wrong. Very good dog, Stephen
stills for what it's worth.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, it's a very friendly dragon. I can see why
you'd say it's a dog.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
That's an unusual looking critter.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, no, I you know, and Tiger's so much younger
than in me that he could have thought it was
just a big tray.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
You was the boy, right, I don't know, and Falcore
was the dragon.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
What are we doing John?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
We're waiting for John to answer his question that he
led after the breakaway. Remember we interrupted him, Well you forget, yeah,
of course I did.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Well, we could have just gone on and on and
he never would have even referred back to it.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
But the problem was is that we cut him off,
so we don't even know what he was talking about.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, now you know what, we got people on Facebook
right now listening. So the first one that can tell
us what we were discussing or what John was discussing
before the last break let us know, put us back
on track.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Well, we were talking about the pigeons, and we were
continuing to talk about that, but then you were going
to take us in another.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I had several things I was okay say, but one
of the things I was going to say back to
the pigeons was you know, people put up those fake
owls and stuff. Yeah, right, which what you need are
realized right, So put up some owl boxes or try
to attract real owls to the area.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Now do And I'm asking this question to our listeners
out there because owl boxes. Owls are nocturnal animals, so
they're going to be out there at night, flying, attacking, protecting.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
And pigeons are not necessarily nocturnal.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Right. You see pigeons flying during the day and then
at night they go into their he brings up a
good So so would an owl actually protect? What does
against a pigeon?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
The pigeons sense an owl even though the owl sleeping.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Or why would they be afraid of a fake if
they're not afraid of real owls? Because they never get because.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
They never You're they never like they don't know what
a real owl. In theory, they should never know what
a real.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Owl is because crows landing on top of scarecrows. It
doesn't always work.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Well, yeah, but you know what I mean, Like it's
it's it's interesting that is a pigeon scared of an owl?
Because does an owl even hunt a pigeon? You know,
I don't know, I don't I don't think that that
would work.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I think your nocturnal thing is a good point.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, well that was the problem in Hawaii with the mongoose, right.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
They were trying to get them to.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Get rid of the snakes that have been brought over.
And then turns out the snake was nocturnal and the
mongoose is mongese diurnal, which are the opposite.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Right, what you're talking about is the nocturnal equinox.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
The nocturnal equinox.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right, John, which isox is what he's referring to the
daylight you know, it's it's the the owl versus pigeon
daytime versus nighttime.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
John and Newport Beach just mentioning that his garden club
put up an owl box but ever occupied. No, and
they and they thought it was because of the hawks
in the area. But again that would be the same thing, right.
Hawks would come out during the day during the day
in els at night.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Do you have owls in the area, do you hear them?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh? Yeah, we had screech owls, which was interesting to
hear as opposed to a who al you know they
would who also screech owls do?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Who?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Who do they? Who?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Do?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Who?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
They do who?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
But owls are very beneficial to happen no matter what
you're trying.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
You know what's interesting about it. One of the interesting
things about now when they.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Baby, I'll say, when they cry.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
What he was laughing at the It barely came out.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
But you know it just popped into my head.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
You got a hit of the joke. But when they fly,
you can't here there. They're silent, and that's one of
the weapons they used to get their prey totally silent.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
We've had a lot of bird activity. As a matter
of fact, one morning, we woke up and Shannon and
I were eating eating, we were drinking our coffee out
on the patio and and I remarked, you know, this
sounds just like Costa Rica all the wildlife, because remember
you'd get up in the morning and Costa Rica and
the birds were.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I remember in the afternoon watching TV sliding glass doors open,
and he's quite on Monday's walk by. I'm like, we
followed him out there with a video. I've been chasing
these guys down because they're they're like the Costa Rica's
version of a raccoon.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
That was up at that hotel that was all into
the mountain.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
And overlooked, and we had the lightning storms and where.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Were they from Germany. It was a family, remember, and
they were they were like I.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Number one town we went into had a lot of
Germans in it.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
They even had German pastries and recipes in German.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
But that was a it was the there was a
family that came from somewhere and started that hotel, and
it was it was an interesting hotel.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Do you ever when you go to a hotel, pull
back the sheet covers to really see what's going on? Yeah,
not a good idea.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Ignorance is bliss exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
You don't want to see that mattress exactly. Well, it's
true some people when it comes to cleanliness, and you know,
and some people require a mattress cover when they make reservations.
Would you put a mattress cover on my bed for me?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Do you know where it says in the Bible cleanliness
is next to godliness?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Where in the Bible? Well that must be the Old Testament.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, it's actually Poor Richard's Almanac. What does it have
to do with the Bible, doesn't he said?

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Do you know where it came in the Bible? It
didn't come.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
From Benjamin Franklin.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, Oh, he was messing around Electric City Winny lots
of it. That's where the term go fly a kite
came from, you know, when people want to brush you off. Yeah,
go fly a kite.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
From Benjamin.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
See John's got that look like, I know, you pull
on my leg, but there could be some truth to that.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Now that was the look like, I'm not going to
talk about the the old things we talked about, am
I and I decided not to remember prior to the
show starting was saying this is where this phrase came from.
Oh yeah, right, yeah right, okay, so let's see. Well,

(35:41):
you know what, the questions from our listeners are usually
pertained to what we're talking about, and we're talking about
it and we're not talking about anything. But I have
questions for you. First question.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But by the way, you got two minutes, so I
don't catch you off you so you know till the
end of the show or what you want to stop,
you can stop anytime you want to. The next break.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Okay, okay, Now I got so many questions. The first one,
I guess is going to be is there anything And
this is a long question, so you have the break
to think about I have to do with your house? No,
that was the question that I'm bypassing right now, But

(36:23):
I want to know what people need to do or
what we need to do to prepare for summer. Are
there are there water saving ideas? Are there shade techniques?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
May I say that this should have been thought of
a month ago?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well? No, it's you mentioned that it's fourth July coming up.
That's when the hot weather's going to get us. Okay,
So I'm just wondering. You know, we got a couple
of weeks we can get ready, But.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I think isn't it all? And we've got in some
areas though it is.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
But I think this is a great question because I've
been dealing with some of these issues right now.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Out all right, Okay, so even even though we're kind
of almost into it, even when when you're in and
amongst the heat, what.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Do you do exactly? All right?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
How much of that a hypothetical question or you really
want an answer?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
No, I want an answer. And I also want maybe
some specifics on families of plants to subplants.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Maybe not plant related. Go out and buy a water wiggle,
make sure your hose works, and if they still sell them,
get a slipping slide.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Don't we have to take a break.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Pretty soon we do. I'm glad you said that. Back
after these messages on Garden America, we are back from
the break. Thank you to those that had run tuned
in on biz talk radio listening to this madness, this chaos,
this craziness, and of course are very dedicated viewers and
listeners on Facebook Live. Who go are they still on?
Watch the audio? Where's the video? Oh, they're back again.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Here we are, and we're back with lots of fun
things to talk about.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yes, John's question what to do in summer now?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
You know, and I've been working up in Muriata and Temecula,
which gets a little bit hotter and drier than most
of the San Diego region, and and it's it's very
hard dense soil as well. I've been working in a
lot of areas that have new housing development.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
What is the soil up there? For the most part,
we decomposed granite.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Decomposed granite exactly because you know, in a new housing development,
what they do is they scrape all the you know,
top soil away and they backfill with hard packed soil
so the house the ability to settle.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
And that's what we did in my house. We lowered
the elevation by six feet and so that we could
have a bigger backyard.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, and and so now when digging, you don't have
top soil, you just have like rock and DG and
so you know, this time of year, it's very important
to mulch because mulching will keep the water into the soil,
it'll amend the soil. What are you laughing at? Comment?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
So Brian can read the comment from Dana, great, go ahead,
ever saying but.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Just you know what, Gosh, I have to go home
to her anyway, Just go ahead. I don't know, it's
just it's a it's a shot at me kind of
But it's funny.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
It's it's kind of unusual to come from Dana, like
just want to shoot out like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, like I say, when I go home, I hope
everything's okay. But anyway, do you compose? Granted, so what
do you do all the fact multing?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
So so, mulching is super important to do right now,
and it's never too late because you know, number one,
it's going to keep the water in the soil a
little bit longer than if you don't multch. And number two,
I really like the mulches that break down quickly, like
the shredded redwood or gorilla or just like a forest
finds mult That's.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
What I bought. As a matter of fact, you didn't,
I did?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Would you put it? I did?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Put it in and around some of the areas of
outside there.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, you know, you bring up a good point because
there's a whole you know, uh, after winter rains, we
get all kinds of weeds in the spring, right, oh yeah,
but in those a lot of those weeds are dying
out now, but then there's a whole new crop of
summer weeds. But mulching will help suppress them, and especially

(40:33):
if you use a weed you know, I'm I'm a
big fan of weed preventers right now because I have
so much property and so many weeds that if and
use the six month preen so twice a year, you
can sprinkle that down, mulch the top and you've got
virtually no weeds. But otherwise you got per slane Japanese

(40:54):
spurs coming up. Now, there's some summertime grasses crab grass
for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
And like you just described, the summertime mulches are not
the tall dandelion style stuff. So the mulch, you cover it,
and like you say, they don't grow very very very
easily controlled.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Right, and what does come up is easier to pull
because the roots are more shallow.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I put it in some of the pots too, just
to make it look a little easer.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
It looks, it looks nicer, and I think one of
the other motivation for doing that would be too. You know,
during the summertime, after I water to keep the soil
moist so it doesn't dry out as quick, and it
does look nice.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Kind of dresses it up well.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
You know. I mentioned the one bed that I put
in where I put in my roast seedlings. I sprinkled
the wheat preventer after they were all planted, and then
I put the there. Because it's a little closer to
the house. I put the black mulch instead of the
sun that stuffed my son's brings. And it looks looks perfect.

(42:00):
As a matter of fact, that it should take. Yeah,
I think we should have a newsletter where we just
do pictures of my house.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
We've been we do that for a while.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
You know what, though, I did read up on it
as far as does it affect animals is it. Oh,
the mult the mulch and everything I read was pretty benign.
Just out of curiosity.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
The other thing I will say that you need to
do right now with the summertime, temperature changes and everything
is change, the irrigation system timing. So this is something
so I'm I know that we live in southern California
and it's very different than some of the other parts
of the country that deal with humidity. But I'm a
huge advocate for nighttime watering. You know, just from the

(42:49):
standpoint of if you can water your plants at night,
they're going to stay. The water's going to stay there
for a long period of time. It's going to absorb
into the soil, it's going to get down to the roots,
the plants are going to have a chance to absorb
it and before the sun comes out. But if you
water at six am, I mean by ten o'clock, by

(43:09):
eight am in some of these places, it's eighty five
degrees and you watered at six half of that water
is gone and the plant didn't have a chance to
absorb it. The water never really got down into the
soil enough deeply to not get evaporated. And you know,
you're dealing with things like wind, so would the water

(43:30):
doesn't always go to where you want it to go.
And so you know, if you can program your irrigation
system to run at ten eleven pm at night, you know,
and it just has a full six to eight hours
before the sun even comes up, you know. And I
do say that with the disclaimer because people, you know, say, oh, well,
what about humidity and fungal issues and all the otherff

(43:53):
And that is true if you live in New Orleans
or you know, somewhere where you have heavy humidity issues
that you can you know, have a lot of disease.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Probably even there, I don't think it makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Because they have humidity all the time anyways.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Got one percent humidity, Yeah, it can't get more than
that by watering at night.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
So and the same thing here, I don't you know
at night, Yeah, and I have that it doesn't increase diseases,
you know, maybe if you're on the coast.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
But what depends how fast it dries out again, like
like Tiger mentioned, if it's twelve hours like that, yes,
but in a few hours it's going to get hot
and it's going to dry out.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Lisa mentions mildew and I I really don't
think mildew is increased by nighttime watering. But that's just
my own opinion. And again the reason I say that, Lisa,
is that if you think of the moisture we have
at night and do that, dude's going to cover the leaf.

(44:57):
So on the leaf you have one hundred percent humidity.
If you're watering the leaves at night, it's not going
to go over one hundred percent. It's still one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, So you know definitely because people will say that, oh,
they'll be like, oh, I just you know, I haven't
adjusted my clock, or or they'll say, oh, no, I
put more time, but they still have it starting at
eight am. Hey, you put another five minutes of irrigation
on at eight am when it's hot outside, it doesn't matter,
It didn't matter. That's that's that's wasted water because it's

(45:31):
already sunny, it's already hot, it's already evaporating, you know.
So the best thing to do is to now change
change your timing to be like overnight watering, so that way,
you know, with the summer heat coming along, and then
that that's the thing too. We've talked about this before.
Is it's actually almost sometimes more harmful to water when
the sun's up.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Break time? All right, Two more segments, one long one,
one short one here on Guard in America as we continue,
more of your questions your comments. BIZ Talk Radio in
Facebook Live John Begnasco and Tager pelafox Ah. Yes, the
boys have returned from the break doing some stretching. Yeah,
getting ready for the day and talking about watering habits
and how you should change those habits. Watering at night,

(46:12):
soaking at night. By the time it dries up and
gets hot, John, your plants should have absorbed it.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Well.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Now I'm wondering about fertilizing. What do you do for
summer fertilizing. Do you still continue on a fertilizing program
or the things that you start fertilizing or stop fertilizing
nothing that burns.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yes, So that's my biggest thing. Is I only use,
especially in the summertime, just an organic all purpose fertilizer.
And I do continue to continue fertilizing because it's actually
really plants are growing a lot there. They're growing, and
they're dealing tropicals, and they're dealing with the heat and
dealing with absorbing water and all of that that they

(46:56):
utilize a lot of the nutrients pretty quickly. But oh man,
I hate it. I've had so many problems with using
a chemical fertilizer in the summertime. That birds the first
thing I thought was a league. So people don't realize that, like, oh,
I just put a little bit and it's like it
burns so easily. In the summer time, you have to
be very careful with a chemical fertilizer. In the summer.

(47:18):
You don't get the leeway like you do in the winter.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Well, camellias and azaleas are growing this time of year.
You know, they're dormant in the winter when they're blooming,
but this time of year they're growing, So if you're
going to fertilize them, now would be the time. But again,
like you said, I would use an organic food on them.
But also if you need to prune azaleas or camellias,

(47:42):
you know now that they're done blooming. If you want
to prune them, go ahead and prune them now. You
don't really want to prunem when they're dormant or after
they've set budge, which well should happen pretty soon, right,
I mean they put out new leaves and that it
seems like almost immediately they start setting buds.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
And then you still have a little ways to wait.
You have to wait all so long. They just they
just sit there, just teasing you for months.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well. I remember even living in Michigan, we would we
were borderlined for rhododendrons. Oh, they had to be protected,
but they'd have that big bud sitting there all winter
and you just hope that it didn't freeze off.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
And I was gonna say, because then you're watching it
and then sometimes they just falls off, like it's just
it was. It was there for months and then it
just falls off. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
When we went to the Royal Botanic Garden in Edinburgh, Scotland,
I was just shocked at the size of some of
the rhododendron trees or bushes or whatever they were. They
were twenty feet tall.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah. Yeah, they're like they're like a multi trunk created myrtle,
you know what I mean, like like just a massive
bush tree thing and beautiful flower is. Yeah. It's amazing
how how something can grow so differently in another area.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
If you were a tree, what would you want to be?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Oh? If I was a tree, what would you want
to be?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
What I mean, now that he's too old to be
a sapling, See.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I would want to be a redwood just around forever,
grow tall, see everything.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
People fascinated by you. Yeah, they'll they'll make a tunnel
underneath you.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Did you know? By the way, this is a little
bit off subject, but you mentioned we.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Never go off subject. What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, well, it's still redwoods. But the redwood forests that's
there now is thought to be is built on the foundation,
so to speak, of an old redwood forest that all
died at one time.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Like like like a fire or flood or something, through much.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Ancient cities and then built on top of each city.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
And then yeah, and then this this new grove came
up and since then he has been there. So the coincidence
is that the time of the genesis flood, uh kind
of corresponds to the time that that original forest died

(50:32):
out and then the new one came up.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
I thought you were going to say, when the meteorite
landed in the Gulf of Mexico and killed off the dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Go from Mexico, where's that the Gulf of America.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
I knew he was going to go there. Yeah, that's
interesting because like I mentioned before, when you when archaeologists
dig and they dig down to well, this is this
civilization here, and they go deeper this civilization. They keep
going down to different cities, built up one of the cities.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
And and you know, that makes that makes a lot
of it makes sense in what you just said, because
you know, they talk about you know, reforestation, you know,
and what happens over you know, generations and centuries of forests,
but they don't grow anywhere else, you know what I mean,

(51:20):
like like like the redwood, the redwood tree is not
like the jacaranit tree that like can grow here and
grow there, and you know, it's it's that area, that region.
It's very specific, you know, to you know, do you.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Remember when I don't know if we talk to anyone
on the radio, I know, wrote an article for the newsletter,
but that there's redwoods in Michigan. They planted redwoods, they
planted them and they're actually growing.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, it seems crazy. Yeah, I can't see them wintering there,
you know what I mean? Very well.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, well but they maybe they'll will develop some resistance.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
But trees don't get me wrong, but like you know
where they're where they're normally living. I get it. You
know Michigan, high humidity, lots of water, they love all that,
but the winter would be the part that I'd be like, oh.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
You know, we have people that fixate on certain things
in this Uh.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
That's true. I know what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
It Well, yeah, because Kevin has asked. Kevin from Cordelaine,
Idaho is asking a question that is similar to one
that Brian used to ask over the years, and I
think maybe even.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Rick the molts No, No.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
This one is how come we never see carnation plants everywhere? Where?
Did they come from?

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Well? Real quick to answer, Kevin had another question, are
they still offering free mulch in San Diego? And there's
a lot of companies that do molts drop, which are
like pair up with and this is all over the country.
They pair up with tree trimming companies. Okay, and like
you can just be like sign up and those tree
trimming companies will just drop their load of of of

(53:10):
shavings that they got from their work into your driveway.
Now you know the downside of that is you get
what you get and you know that you know what
what it is is what it is. But also the
city of San Diego offers mulch as well from the landfill,
but you have to go pick it up if you
want it for free. They will load it at a
at a cost. But yeah, and sorry he now asked

(53:35):
about carnations.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
About carnations, because you used to ask the solid time too.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
But you just see them all over the place.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, and the real they used to be a floral
industry against San Diego. They we used to go to
roses and carnations. And there's a difference between a florist
carnation in garden carnations. Florist carnations have to be staked,
and they used to grow them in greenhouses.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
They just fall over.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Now it's all done in South America because it can
be done more economically than you know, the valuable space
of valuable land costs in Encinita snow. But so it's
almost like there's other things you normally don't see in
the garden, Like usually don't see floristalls from area right

(54:23):
because they're too tall and floppy. But the same thing.
Back when I first moved to California, people would still
grow florist carnations, and you would buy them in the
spring a certain time of the year, but they'd always
have to be staked, and they would put in a
little wood and string set up to hold them up

(54:43):
and tie them to the strings and get them to grow.
So people don't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Well, and it was really cool in England where they
just laid down branches in their garden when the floppy
plants grew. There was a structure into that held it up.
But it looked very natural, looked very oh. It just
it just works that way.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Do you still dream about longborn?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I do. I do. I'm going to have one. Yes.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Speaking of natural, I think tiger. Well, they have them
outside here. They look like rocks, but they're actually uh
it's past control.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Oh yea.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
So they go they go in whatever, rats or whatever.
But it looks kind of like a rock.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
It looks like a boulder.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, boulder ties in with the landscape.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
That's what they didn't know where that came from, but
I don't.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Because you said natural, how plants are natural?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And I think what, I don't know what you're talking about?
A rock trap?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Yeah, you know, rat traps, rat traps they make it
out like boulders.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Now they can make it I knew nothing about.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Okay, they put them around buildings and the pest companies,
so they're rat traps, but they're poison inside. Or Yeah,
so instead of like a box, they make it look
like a rock or some part of the landscape so
it's not obvious.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Wow, Hey, it's time to take a break.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
So you learned something, because yeah, I never ever know.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I want you to go home and tell the family wow,
and perhaps perhaps contemplate putting them around your property.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I like crocks, I like and I don't like crafts.
So there you go, like a win win.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
It's our final break, and boy oh boy, people are
happy about that. Back after this on biz talk Radio, Okay,
just laughing and scratch And that's what we're doing here
on Guard in America. Final final segment. Now, normally the
show's over by this time, but here's the beauty of
starting later, having that that forty sponsor interruption break. We're
we're into the nine thirty part of the clock here,

(56:44):
we're into the ninth. No, it's nine thirty live. If
you're watching us live on the on the West Coast.
I accept that nine on the Eastern Seaboard.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Dana wants enough for planning any trips coming up, and
we had one play, but we canceled Dana because Brian said,
with the new cat, you're not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Okay, hold on here, no, Okaya's asking if.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
We went down a deposit and everything. We lost the
deposit because of Brian.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
That's a separate issue, and that's all very funny and humorous.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
We just got in trouble.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
No, no, no, here's the next question. She's asking if
we have any she can ask me at home. She
doesn't have to put a comment on Facebook, you know,
if we have any trips plan exactly. It's like it's
it's it's so formal. Do you guys have any trips?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
That's the only way you guys communicate you guys don't
communicate it except right here exactly. The only way she
reaches out to you is.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
But I have to say John's answer was pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I think Dana always thinks of the show, and she's
trying to find out if there's any interest among the
general public and our listeners for us to put together
another trip.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I'll buy that. I'll also by the fact that she
doesn't trust my answer. If I say no, no, nothing,
playing things can be true and then she finds out well, yeah,
John said, you guys are planning a trip to Patagonia, Like.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
What, really, I want to go to Patagonia.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
That's a long trip. That's a long flight.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
A lot of people are doing that though. What do
you think Tiger.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
When we it's tough.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
It's a lot of hiking a lot of different ways.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
It's really tough. Is that Tiger's wife is always teaching school.
When we plan trips and take the kid.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Take the class with that's a great field trip.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, right, a long field trip. Carla Tiger wants to
know whether it's time to spray her citrus for scale. Oh,
she wants to know if she should wait till it's
fall and it's cooler.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I mean on a scale of one to ten, ten
meaning to it now.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
I think I think you can do do it now
for sure, because.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
She's on the coast.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, they're growing, they're growing. This is when the bugs scale,
mealy bug, whitefly. It's all starting. So if you wait
until the fall, your your problem is already going crazy.
But like we've said before, you have to be careful
because you can't spray in the middle of the day
because you'll burn the foldge, you'll burn you know, the plant.

(59:19):
So but kind of back to like what we're saying
with the watering, just spray at night, you know, spray
at night so that way the the spray will be
there when there's no sun out and you know, the
plants protected and by the time day comes around, you're
you're safe again. So yes, do spray, but spray at night.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
We got the reason why Dana asked that question, oh goodness,
And the reason is Brian won't tell me anything.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
That's that's what I said, didn't I say it? You
didn't trust me?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Goodness?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Kevin as Iceland, right, yeah, asked about Iceland, and I've
looked into Iceland as a matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
You know, they had more waterfalls there than almost anyplace
else in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Really, yes, more than Hawahite.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I didn't say the most, but they have a lot. Yeah,
there's a lot there, more than you'd think. But anyway,
continue your Iceland.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
They've got well I've always wanted to see the northern lights.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Yes, so it seems like you could.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Go and if you went in the middle of winter.
You could also go what's it called? Is it the
blue lagoon?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
The one where people laying it? Yeah, it's like hot water,
but it's very uh yeah, it's like blue like his shirt,
like Brian's shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
And there's snow all around.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yes, yes, In fact, I want a YouTuber went there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
They use a lot of geothermal energy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
There's a lot of volcanic activity. I think as well,
yeah there is. Yeah, Iceland, isn't it? Did we talk
about this before that? The reason they called it Iceland
was to keep people away, to make it think like
it's really harsh, and it's just the opposite exactly. Greenland's huge.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Yeah. Wow when you see it on a real map,
like meaning like one that actually.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Covers the entire United States almost.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Tanya's going to Amsterdam in Norway this summer for a
family reunion, so we'll just go with her. Well that's
what I'm I'm thinking as she's inviting all the listeners
to maybe join her.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
All right, there's are nice places to go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Do you think do you think going to Amsterdam in
the summer is going to San Diego in the summer
where it's nice, but you know it's not the spring,
So it's kind of not as nice. You know, like
when you go to southern California in the spring, a
lot of things are in bloom and you know it's pretty.
In the summer it's still nice, but it's just not
as people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Have different motivations when they go to Amsterdam, Okay, not
just saying people go on trips for different reasons. They do, okay, John,
As we used to say in Sports, two minutes, two
minutes remaining or there about till the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
But when we were in England in the summer, it
was not as nice as if you will go in
the spring.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Still pretty chilly in the summertime, right, No, it was warm,
Oh it wasn't. Really it was hot because it can
be cold. Yeah, when you think it should be hot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Hey, Sue really quickly commented that they had a great
time when they went to Costa Rico with us. But
she's taken on her lawn and putting in bark and
she wants to know if there's any suggestions for prep
The one thing is after the area is ready for bark,
definitely get the extended stated warranty right now. The extended

(01:02:39):
release on the prene that lasts for six months, and
I would sprinkle that over the whole area, and you
can buy large bags at home depots.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
And remember how it works is it makes that gassy
layer on the soil. If you disrupt it, you don't
get the benefit of the preene anymore. So a lot
of people don't realize that that it's not just like,
not only do you want to lay it down, but
you also just want to leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Now, what about putting a weed mat down and then
the bark over the weed mat? I?

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Hey don't like weed mats?

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah, I don't either, So.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
All right, Well, we got about a minute ago, plenty
of time to keep us on time. Any quick, quick
last minute?

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Water water, water, water at night, water at night, water early.
You'll be happier.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
John, get your workstation back up and running in some
part of the property.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, I don't know. We got a show scheduled for
up there sometime, don't Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Show soon at John's place. Hey, thank you so much
for the putting up with a brief interruption we had.
We got us back on thanks to Tiger for the
entire crew. I'm Brian Main, John Begnascar, Tage, Pella, Fox,
have a great rist of your weekend. Water water Water,
We'll see you next week. Be safe right here on
Guard in America. Take care, Facebook Live and biz Talk radio.

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