Valuable Resources for Gardeners with Dr. Damon Abdi - Garden America Podcasts [11.16.24] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, what do you know, it's that time again. Here
we are. It seems like it's been forever. Tiger and
myself were here two weeks ago. It's been three weeks
for John. This is Garden America. In case you're wondering
those tuning in, those that have been just as they say,
chomping at the bit, but somebody told me one time
it's actually champing at the bit. That's the actual uh
term for that as well. Also, we are back. It
is Garden America. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco Tiger Palafox, ready,

(00:24):
willing and able Tiger. We good. I look at that express.
Every time I look at you and you're looking down
at the video equipment, you have this expression on your face.
Sometimes it's worried, sometimes it's wonder sometimes it's joy. What
is it?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's it's I'm hoping that you're not too loud? Oh me, yeah, no,
not you specifically.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well, I got in jail, okay, should I not say so?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was just wondering when you're talking about the champing
at the bit.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, that's what I heard that it's not chomping but champing.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
So is it actually a champion rather than a champion.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It could be.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now, these are things we explore here on Garden America.
Do you think it's just gardening and horticulture and you know,
talking about your weeds and your and your soil. No, no,
we go way way beyond that.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
We can. We can relate it back, right.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
It'll always come full circle.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Leads and plans and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Now, John, you were in Texas because you went to
the bullfights.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah. I didn't realize, not to the bull they're not
bull fights. We should clarify to see the bullfighters.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
And it's a series of challenges between a red team
and a Blue team, and then they divide the audience up.
You know, one side is supports the Blues, the other
side supports the reds, and and we were on the
red team who ended up winning.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
But I told you this isn't This isn't going anywhere
is it now?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, no, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
No, no, no, no, not at all. What I was
going to say was it seems to me before the started,
you know, and they divided us up. I told Shannon,
I said, doesn't it seem reds already at a disadvantage
with a bull exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
But you had fun. Huh, yeah, it was really That's
not why you went to Texas though.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
We went to visit my son and daughter in their
new home. Right by the way. My granddaughter works down
the street in Capernaum.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Wow, which is where uh well.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
The notice the silence.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, Copernaum is the studio that where they filmed The
Chosen I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Say it sounds very biblical the name obviously.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And she's in charge of uh costumes, so like.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Is the name of the studio, not the city.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
And she works at a movie studio place right right.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
So they film a lot of epics and things, and
they've got you know, like if you say, you know,
I need I need to outfit a Roman legion, that
she's got it. She gets all the stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Ready, My name is Legion. We are many.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's something completely different.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
But you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's cool. So weather was nice there?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah it rained, Oh only while we were not doing something.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
How about the weather. What are the tempts in Texas
this time of year for area?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right? Yeah, Texas is big, Brian.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh, you can say, what's the temperature in Texas and
it could be completely different in eight different places.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Just ask anybody from Texas how big it is.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's like the difference in weather in California exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So where you were in Texas it.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Was in the seventies. I think it got near eighty
one day. I'll tell you the worst soil I've ever seen.
Oh really, oh just solid clay red really and when
it rains.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
It sounds like Georgia, Georgia, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
You get out there after a rain and you try
to walk through that stuff. I mean it sticks to
the bottom of your shoes.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
And wow, mountains mountains or no, no, no mountains, it's
all flat.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
What you were we were was hilly.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, there's hilly, chilly.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
So it was.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Nice trees, foresty or no, a lot of trees.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
But you know, they have a lot of oak trees there,
and they've got some disease, like different than what we
had Aaron, Belafornia.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
But a similar problem.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right, babbling brooks brooks that don't que while we were there. Yeah,
I think they started their babbling as you got closer
to the election.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, I think, okay, that's well, that's that's that's enough
of that. Anyway, we are back in action. Uh now,
Tiger left two weeks ago. It was just you and me.
We didn't have a guest. We just had it.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
We had a great show, lots of questions. Yeah, so
we answered a lot of things. John John wasn't here
to fact check us. So no, you know, whatever we said,
whatever you want, whatever we said something about it.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I had a question about why did that show have
so many viewers? Yeah, like several thousand more than.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Normal two thousand. I think I think we said, you know,
when people called ask you know, when to plant something
anytime you feel like it, no matter no matter what
it gave him at two o'clock this afternoon's a good
time to plan.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Well my answer was obvious that I just said.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
John wasn't there, So, speaking of that, we do have
a guest today. Yeah, Damon is what now? If you
have the newsletter, you probably read a little bit about
Damon's background.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
But for those that game and storrita, what what are
we talking about today?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
You know?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
So I ran across Damon in an art in an
industry article, and he was had an article in an
industry magazine, and he had an article on this new
movement of using technology to identify plants and problems. He comes,
he comes from LSU Department of Horticulture.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Just got a box from l s U this week.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Really, yeah, box of what uh.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
The good question, Tiger?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
What would I get a box roses from l s U. Yeah,
they're conducting a testing around the country on rose varieties.
New rose varieties really haven't been named yet, something like
the All American Selections used to do, yeah, when they
were Yeah, and I'm one of the Christs and trial gardens,

(06:16):
trial gardens in California.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Now during these trials, does anybody ever get convicted?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's my definitely. Okay, there's a lot of murders that happen. Yeah,
just as John, some of those roses don't come out.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'll tell you. Speaking of murders, number fifty four, you
can go gophers. I got. I went out and bought
three new gopher hawks and and I don't know why,
because I just couldn't find the others.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Like, wait a minute, you bought three not to get
more gophers, but you lost the other gopher ross the
like in the places you put them or they're like
you had them in the garage and now you can't
find them.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
You know, it's you'll learn this that you get closer
to Brian's forgot where they're at. Yeah, but you know
you can. It's just like what happened to that. I
was holding it five minutes ago, and now I don't
know where it is.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
It's one of those things you don't know if they're
in the yard somewhere.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
My guess is that they're I probably set them up
and forgot that.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I forgot where they're at, right, Yeah, so you're going
to be digging around the yard in a week.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
See, this is another reason why he should have a
twenty four to seven camera observing that area, not just
for safety and security, but to keep an eye on himself. Yeah,
and then he can go back and.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Go back and review the footage.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's why I was looking. I was thinking of attaching
those little buttons that you put in your luggage.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Oh, the air pods, yeah or whatever they're.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Just attach those to things around the yard.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
That'd be smart. A bad idea, Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, is that you being over.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
There, that's you're saying, all good looking, go for.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Hawk locations by your little air.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Pod wants you to know, Brian, that she just returned
from flag Staff.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know she has a good memory.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
She went to see the Loull Observatory.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
What's that where you go see planets and stars and
stuff that.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, she saw Saturn's rings.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, it's a very old old observatory. She knows. I
went to school there. That's what she's recollecting. Yeah, I
think I'm trying to think there was a discovery made there,
like an incredible, incredible scientific from the astronomy world.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
To make observations they do.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, this was this was like a historic observation, a discovery.
Maybe somebody can fact check us, check us on this.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Is there a what is it the flag Staff or
the tonight there's a meteor shower right.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, last night was a full moon, I think.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, that was a super moon type thing. But tonight
is the the one of the biggest meter showers, is
it really?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, that'll be observable from here.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, you're supposed to do it's not cloudy, supposed to
lay on your back with your feet going yeast face off,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know what? Real quickly soon whare to clarify that one?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Sue just answered my question. Uh, Pluto was discovered.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh from flags?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yea from that that telescope.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh well that's question. That's got an asterisk on it. Well, yeah,
I guess it was. I guess Pluto was discovered.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
When I grew up, Pluto was a planet exactly now
that it was relegated to one an asteroid?

Speaker 3 (09:30):
What is it just a dog now?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Just yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right, Wow, he's been saving that.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I had no idea that was. Okay, we have a
minute before the break. Can you get the quoted we.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Just got copyright cut from Facebook.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
For really for a Pluto? And why did you want? What?
What's what the Disney thing you guys were doing?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Okay, do we have time?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
We have time?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Go Okay the quotes from Henry Rollins. Do you know
Henry Rollins? Yes, punk, yeah, yeah, he said, I've come
to regard November is the older, harder man's October. I
appreciate the early darkness and cooler temperatures puts my mind
in a different place than October. It's a month for

(10:20):
a quieter, slightly more subdued celebration of Summer's death. Is
winter tightens its grip.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Wow, seems like the beginning of a Twilight Zone. Oh
we saw the one last night, The Twilight Zone. Henry
beamis oh the librarian Burgess Meredith. Yeah, wow, great episode.
Was watching them from the beginning. We're in season three
now we're starting anyway, it is break time. We could
talk about that, or hey, how about some gardening. We've
got our guest coming up again. What is Damon's last

(10:49):
name again, Tiger? Okay, stay tuned for that. Gonna take
a break. Welcoming our friends on Biz Talk Radio as
well as Facebook Live. This is Garden America. All right,
thank you for a hey in there during the break.
We are back here on guard in America. Bryan Main
and John begnasco Tiger Pela Fox. Hey, look, we enjoy
reading all your comments on Facebook Live. If if occasionally

(11:09):
we entertain you on Facebook Live, I guarantee that you
entertain us every show, So keep up the good work.
That said, Damon is ready to go, Tiger. Here we go,
and again, thank you so much for being right there
with us.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
All right, this morning, we have doctor Damon Abdy joining us,
and he's an assistant professor of landscape Horticulture at the
Louisiana State University AGG Center Hammond Research Station. That is
one heck of a title right there. I feel very
h I feel like I'm talking to a very important

(11:43):
person right now, Damon, because of that title, and you
are very important. But we're bringing you on for a
pretty fun topic here. So Damon, how's your morning going.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Oh, it's going great. Thank you all for having me
on the show. I appreciate being here.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, And Damon, you're out there in Louisiana and you're
helping LSU with a lot of agriculture research. What is
one of the areas that you specialize in.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
So in my position, I work primarily with the landscape
contractors and also a little bit with the general public.
So my goal is to enhance the sustainability of the
green industry.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Overall.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
I do a lot of work in terms of licensing
for horticulture, education, pet side application, irrigation, and then I
also have a research program that focuses on water management
and the landscape, better establishment of plants, temperature mitigation. So
I got a little bit of work in all different

(12:41):
areas of the landscape. But I always like just to
help anybody who has a green thumb as well.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, and hey, hey John.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
One of the things I was talking with Damon earlier
this week, and you know, he's talking about water management runoff,
and I was like, well, in California, you know, water
management runoff for us is how do we conserve it,
how do we save it, how do we how do
we prevent it from running off? But then I'm thinking Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Like they are like, how do we get it to
like go away?

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know, too much? And he was saying that, David,
You're actually saying you guys have a little bit of
a drought.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
But it is true that different areas water management means
different things.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Right, it means the levees not laking.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so I've been in Louisiana for
about four years now. I've been all around the country,
but when I came here, my big focus was thinking
too much water. How are we going to be able
to get water out of these areas, and whether that's
through French drains, whether that's through different green infrastructure. So

(13:42):
a lot of my research started with that focus and
it still continues with that primarily, but interestingly enough, over
the last two years, we've had several extended droughts. So
like most water issues, it's either too much or too little. Yeah,
there's plenty of work in either way.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Now, now I don't know if you have this info,
but what is a drought in Louisiana?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Because because in southern California.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
And San Diego specifically, our average rainfall every year is
ten inches. And that's again that's an average. So you know,
one year we'll get twelve, the next year we'll get eight.
Some years we get two. You know, what what is
Louisiana dealing with?

Speaker 5 (14:21):
So that's a great question in terms of quantifying the rain.
I don't really have those numbers on me, but what
I really noticed was a lot of times, you know,
we get ample enough rain that supplementary irrigation is really
an afterthought. Oh and especially my first couple of years,
you know, people would have irrigation, but they wouldn't always
need to rely on it. But really last summer, when

(14:44):
we had this extended drought throughout most of it, I
like to say a lot of people kind of told
on themselves with their irrigation practices. I saw a lot
of contractors they call me up and they say, hey,
we put these trees in for this client. They didn't
want any water management. They said they were going to
take care of watering it, take care of it, make
sure it establishes, and several months later it doesn't look

(15:06):
so hot. And a lot of people kind of hold
on themselves with regards to whether they're putting water down. Yeah,
So it was kind of interesting in that way. But
also on the other end of the spectrum, a lot
of people who had irrigation systems, you know, like a
new toy, they want to use it, they want.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
To play with it.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Turns out they put too much water down, so some
of the plants were getting a little oversaturated and not
looking as good as they could. So it's a delicate
balance between too little and too much.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, especially in an area where you you know, like
for us, it's very hard to put too much because
we just have we have too little. But for an
area like you where yeah, you could all of a
sudden get a rain, and you know, you could be
applying too much irrigation very easily.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
So David, I ran across your.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Information though in a trade magazine about an article that
had to you with using your technology to identify plants
and diseases and pests, and how people are using it
more and more, and how there's some things that people
need to be concerned about, and so, you know, just

(16:14):
to give kind of a brief introduction on this is,
you know, nowadays when we travel around, we have our
phones with us, and you know, to put a brand
on it, you can use Google and you take a
photo of a plant and Google will shoot you back
a ton of similar images and hopefully you can identify
that plant or that problem. And that's the basic principle

(16:37):
of this technology, right.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, So it all kind of started with I was
reached out to by angelaue grob would think to write
about something for the Technology Issue, and I was sitting
there thinking about what topics would make sense, and lo
and behold, I get a text from one of my
friends with a very grainy image of a plant saying
what's this plant? And I thought, Okay, glad that they

(17:03):
reached out. This is going to be a little bit
of a challenge. And my first thought is did they
use one of these readily available apps, and if so,
did they send that same grainy picture. So a lot
of these apps it's a good tool, it's a good technology,
but it's not always one hundred percent right. And part
of that, certainly it's a technology that's evolving, that developing

(17:24):
and certainly making leads and bounds, but a lot of
it comes down to pictures not really being representative and
people not always taking the best angles to let that
technology work, whether that's asking a friend to identify or
using one of those apps.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah, and so you know, as you mentioned, if you
send a close up picture to a yellow flower and
you don't, you know, reveal some of the other details
of the plant, it might shoot you back a message
about other yellow flowers. But maybe if you took a
picture of the yellow flower and then took a picture
of maybe the leaves and you know, maybe some seeds,

(18:02):
and you did individual searches on those items or combine
them somehow, it could get you more information.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, So there's a little bit of slew
thing that goes on when you're trying to picture out
which plant it is. So a lot of times I
see a very zoomed in picture, probably a little bit blurry,
and it may not always be from the best angle.
And for me, I like to work with multiple pictures.
The more information you have the easier it gets. And

(18:32):
the first thing I like is to take a nice
big step back and get an overall view of the
entire plant rather than just that close up. Yeah, when
you get the close up of a small annual or
something in a landscape, certainly that that's more useful. But
with a lot of the woody trees, the perennials, when

(18:52):
you need to take that big step back to see
the overall form of the plant, that's usually the first
step that I look at.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, definitely not good to just take a make sure
of the trunk of a giant redwood and just be like, hey,
what is this right?

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, we're taking a picture of a friend of yours
from the waist down and say identify this place for Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, Hey, hey David, we're gonna have to take a
quick break. When we get back, we'll keep chatting with
you about some of the techniques that people need to
consider and maybe some of the other, you know, things
that people can use this technology for, especially when it
comes to plants. But we're gonna take a quick break
and we'll be back talking with Damon. With doctor Damon Abde.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
There you go, and again this break for our friends
on BIS Talk Radio, coming back much quicker here on
Facebook Live. Stay with us. Okay, just like that, we
have returned here back on Garden America, our friends on
BIS talk Radio Facebook Live. Is we continue talking about
the identification of plants, the certain apps and they better
to get a view from far away tiger than thing
close up. As we continue with Damon.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Hey, hey, David, So one thing, I know you follow
our show regularly, so I'm sure you're familiar with.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
John over here here. But you know, John, believe it
or not, how long ago was it?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Because you were involved with one of the first plant
identifying apps, right.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
You know, I wasn't really involved, but Sharon, Yeah, yeah,
I did help her out a lot of bit.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
But that was what fifteen years ago? Maybe more?

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, not sure, I would say fifteen years I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
But they had people all over the country and you
would take a picture, yeah, and you would.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Post it and it would get sent to this yeah, to.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Coalition, right, and they would identify it in a day
later you would get an answer back.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean, you know, think about how things have come along, Damon,
because that was that was, you know, fifteen twenty years ago,
and it was an app, and you.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Would they would say, hey, you you take a picture.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
And the whole basis of this app is initially it
had all the people identifying, so it just had a
bunch of experts in the field identifying plants and whatever
or it was. But in the hopes that AI would
catch up and the more data they collected, they wouldn't
need the people anymore, and then AI would just kind
of answer these people's questions as it came across.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
But that's the way it was.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Is used to get these pictures, used to get the
location of where the picture came from.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
And sometimes people would the people identifying it would send
you back a question. Yeah, like yeah, where do you live? Yeah,
you know it's this in cent or shade.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
So so, I mean, things have come a long way
with these identification apps and and damon and your you
know field as well. You know, with use of professional
in the use of professional horticulture, you can identify pests
and some disease with these as well, right.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Yeah, so so this some of the different apps will
be able to say, hey, you know, maybe you've got
a little bit of drought issues maybe or wilting issues.
Maybe you've got a little bit of pest issues, things
like fungal diseases a lot too. When you see certain
signs of pathogens on leaves, it'll give you a little
little alert and then it gets you thinking on what

(22:09):
potential issues could come a bit. So, yeah, the technology
is really really interesting, how it's been grown by leaps
and bounds and it's only going to get better. And
talking about how you know, in the past it would
have been posted somewhere and you have a panel of
people who are going to weigh in on it. So
it's interesting to see that all these insights are being

(22:30):
incorporated into the AI for it.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
And what are some things that people need to consider?
So say say they did take a picture of a
plant and it spits back an answer. You know, what
are some things that people need to consider when they
get that answer, you know in the sense of, you know,
if it is really that plant or not, you know,
because I mean we're talking different parts of the world.

(22:56):
We're talking like Johnson could be sun could be shade, right,
So are do people you know, is there other ways
that you recommend people get more information, like if they go,
you know, search that plant and get more details, like
even if it would grow.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
In their area.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Yeah, So in the big picture, of course, you want
to cross reference whatever the suggestions are from these apps
to see, is this a plant that's actually going to
grow in my area? And a lot of the times,
some of these apps are going to be geolocated, so
they'll be able to hone in on your area. But
sometimes there's things that you can just immediately exclude if
it just doesn't make sense for your particular regions. And

(23:37):
then beyond region, I also think of where within a
developed area within a city those plants might be. So
if you're in a more natural area, you know, the
edge of the woods, versus if you're in a more
urban area where every plant's intentionally selected and put somewhere,
that's a good indicator for whittling down the lad A

(24:00):
lot of times in the landscape, you're going to see
a lot of the same plants at the palette of
plants that are commonly implemented in these designs, and as
you walk by them and you see them at different
times of the year in different growing conditions, you kind
of build this an internal database of Hey, this is
what this plant's going to look like in January, in

(24:23):
June in October, so thinking about that in the developed
area versus the more naturalized parks. So that's the first
area that I've looked at as well. And I also
kind of look at patterns. So sometimes people will send
a picture of a plant that just one individual plant

(24:43):
that may not always look the best. But then if
they take a big step back and see a pattern
where other of those plants are situated in that same
site that look a little bit better, that might be
a better representation for identifying it.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, and it's pretty interesting too, because you know when
people are are trying to identify the plant nowadays, with
the with the use of the internet, in the sense
of companies, you know, new plant producers, you know, you
work with a lot of ornamental horticultural producers, they have
to load all of that information online nowadays for people

(25:21):
to find their new plants, and they post photos and
multiple photos different angles. That almost the new plants on
the market get easier identified because there's more information out
there on them. Because ultimately all these all these apps
are scrubbing the internet for the for the photos. And
if Burpie releases a new petunia and you take a picture,

(25:44):
well you're going to get that immediate response that, oh,
this is a Burpie petunia, because Burpie has flooded the
internet with that new image. Right, So it's actually, you know,
some of these new little annuals and perennials, they can
not only come up and tell you, oh, it's a petunia,
but it is this exact petunia, which which is amazing
because back back, I mean, you know, I remember I

(26:05):
used to get so shocked by my dad when we
would travel and he'd be like, oh, that's an oak tree.
I'm like, oh, wow, he knows it's an oak tree.
But now you know, you can say specifically what oak
it is.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
The genus, the history.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, just so much more information that you know, it's
not just a petunia. It's not just a pansy. It's
actually this pansy or this petunia or this caliber CoA.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
One thing I don't expect would be to get varieties
of roses. Right, there's three thousand pink roses. But I've
used it and find find that it was correct on
some of the varieties of roses. You know, some that
are really common and maybe a little distinctive. You would
get those.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Shocking, right, Yeah, And then you know, just the capacity
for it to really kind of get down to some
of the varieties is really uncanny and sometimes and that's
always really really interesting. And then something else with the
varieties too, because narrowing it down to variety can be
very tough. Sometimes you'll see plants that have cultivar reversions.

(27:12):
For example, you might have a variegated pittus forum that
somebody sends you a picture of it without that variegation,
but you take a closer look at the whole plant,
see there's parts of the variegates. You can actually kind
of whittle down to variety using a combination of that
technology and then also some observations.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
So, now with your field of research in the sense
of you know, water runoff and you know, ornamental horticulture
and kind of working in that direction, are you guys
seeing huge movement in using technology.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
So that's a great question. So I use a variety
of technology in my research, really mostly for data collection,
particularly on temperature like transmission and soil moisture, and so
I use a lot of technology on that to see
what some of our practices are doing in the field application.

(28:11):
And then a lot of times. So I travel a
good bit around, mostly the South, and I get to
I'm very fortunate I get to walk around look at plants,
metha one of my favorite parts of my job. A
lot of times I'll encounter a plant that I'm not
really sure what it is, maybe it's something that I
haven't encountered frequently enough. And being able to use this

(28:33):
technology to identify that plant, but then also see where
they're using that plant is something that really helps me
expand what plant palate I'm going to use for some
of my research, but also get ideas for Okay, if
I see a plant performing well in this very wet area,
I've got an inclination that that's going to do well

(28:53):
in some of the rain garden installations.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
So, I mean, you know, now you're starting to have
the this own database of information that you're creating in
the sense of what does well where or you know,
maybe maybe what doesn't do well also because you know,
as you as you mentioned, you might see something underperforming
in one of the areas that you're working to be like, oh,
I thought this would work well here, but it doesn't.
And then now you have that information and do you guys,

(29:21):
you know within the research you know that you're doing.
Is it just you or is it a group of
people also working on it.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Oh, we've got a fantastic team. So at the Hammond station,
I'm one of the faculty there. Doctor Jebsfields is also
a fact you member there. We've got an excellent staff,
crew and everybody who works specifically at that station. And
we have a trial gardens there that are open to
the public that a lot of our stakeholders and a

(29:49):
lot of just our local citizens come by and check out.
So we've got a whole great team that really pushes
forward the mission and works together collaboratively. So it's absolutely
the efforts.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
All right, Hey, we're gonna have to take another break.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
When we get back, we'll wrap up chatting with doctor
Damon Abdy from Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
But we just got to take a quick break right now.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yep. We got a couple of two or three comments
questions that John will be addressing too on the other side.
Gonna take a break for our friends on BIS Talk
Radio and welcome to guard in America. Brian Main and
John Bagnascar, Tiger Pella Fox back with Damon, gonna wrap
things up after these messages on BIS Talk Radio. All righty,
we are back from that break. Thank you those tuned
in on biz Talk Radio. Do appreciate it each and
every week or most well, actually yes, each and every week,

(30:33):
even if you're listening to a replay show. So we
are in the last segment of our number one. If
you are tuned in on biz Talk Radio, we continue.
You've got news coming up top of the our Facebook Live.
We just continue back with Damon Tiger.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
All we have a couple.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You're on.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
We have a couple of questions.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
You're on a different microphone this morning.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
We have a couple of questions, David, So hold on
one second.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, First off, we have eight instant messages that say
how can I get paid to walk around looking at plants?
But this one comes from carl And Huntington Beach, California, Damon,
and she says, can you recommend a good app for
ID and is there somewhere she can find your research

(31:18):
results on ID apps?

Speaker 5 (31:23):
So as far as recommending a certain idea or idea app,
there's a lot of there's a lot of different ones
out there. I've only experimented with a few of them.
I know that it came around the iPhone has a
part of it that will automatically do that, I believe,
And there's several other I can't really necessarily say one

(31:44):
is better than the other, but I know there's a
wide range out there, and I think looking at the
different reviews and seeing what some of your friends and
colleagues work with is a good way. But my opinion
is try different ones. And you can actually download several
of the apps and use those on the same plant
and then see which ones you're most comfortable with, see

(32:04):
how consistent they are.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Idea.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah, yeah, And you know I was going to say
on some of these apps too, there I think they're
kind of moving into the direction of less focus on
the identification, which they do very well, but they also
want to help you with your own landscape, where you
put the information of what's in your landscape into the
app and it'll remind you fertilize it, trim it.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
These are some pets that are you know, plaguing it,
you know, and so it's a good little tool to
remind you of of what's happening in your own garden too.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah, And then to answer the part about some of
the other things. So my research, I've got a lot
of my information posted on the Louisiana State agg Center
Extension website, so a lot of my work you can
read it on there, and of course you'll find my
email linked. And I'm always open to connect. But I

(33:02):
think to a greater note, regardless of which says region
you're in, throughout the country, there's a lot of great
extension folks that develop a lot of fact sheets that
are very regionally specific, and we'll give maintenance tits that
are directly applicable to the individual searching reson region. That's
usually my first suggestion for finding some of that information.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Good deal, any.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
More questions, No, Carlo just answered back though that that
was a great idea.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Thank you all right, Well, Damion, you know, thank you
very much for joining us this morning. Lots of good information,
lots of fun stuff. You know, technology is always evolving
and changing, and you know it's funny because you know,
you would think, oh.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Plants, you know, you know, we're not we're not in
the loop with.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Technology or what's happening, but it is helping us kind
of shape the way we do things and bringing more
awareness and bringing more information to us and for you
in the research industry as well. I'm sure it's a
huge help just to be able to share the data,
document the data, keep the data, you know, I mean, so,

(34:12):
you know, good luck to you on your research. And uh,
how's the weather right now and where you're at.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Oh, it's it's great. So it's it's warm. You know,
it's mid November and South Louisiana is very warm, and
I can't ask for anything better for football season. Actually,
funny enough, I'm I was born in southern California. I'm
a diehard Charges fan.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
So all right, well we used to be charging.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah, when you move, you can just keep it where
we feel we feel jaded. So well, have a great
rest of the weekend. Thank you very much for joining us.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
All right, thank you, thank you for having me on
the show.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Interesting, just interesting.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I mean when we were traveling, you know, John and
I would just be so shocked by the use of
just the Google like the image, the Google image.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
You just put it into Google.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
You take a photo, you put it in there and
it spits back out so much information and from there
we can be like, oh, you know, is this anything,
is it relevant?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know, is it not relevant.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Well, it was so good that I used to have
the app. I think it was called picture This in it,
but it cost thirty bucks a year. Uh huh, which
is not that much. But I used to be a buyer,
so I try to conserve wherever I can. So it
was so good that I dropped the picture this app
because I thought that Google did just as good a job.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
You know, I had an app on my phone a
couple of two or three years ago. We were at
Tiger's nursery and you were skeptical. Yeah, and it took
a picture and it did a good job. But then
I also found out that it did make mistakes and
that Google was actually better than that app that I had.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah. You know, if I was designing an app or
telling somebody this is what I want, I would like
to be able to push wrong. You know, yes, yes,
so it knows Hey, yeah that was wrong.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, did we discuss I think he touched on it
a little bit or if not, an idea for these
apps too, not just to identify it, but he also
kind of mentioned, okay, this is where it grows, this
is the season fertilizer. In other words, giving you care
of that particular plant that you take a picture of.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Well, a lot of these apps are moving in that direct,
right because it's like we just said, I mean, you know,
Google is Google is giving away that information for free,
you know, so if you really want somebody to pay
for your app, or you've got to.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Give them more, and that would be an expansion of
that app.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, And so what it does is, you know, it
keeps track of you know, you put you know, for
your patio, you put you have.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
This plant, this plant, this plant, this plant, this plant.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
This plant, and then it sends you email reminders about hey,
you know, fertilize this time, to trim this right, you know,
cut back water, you know, And so it helps you,
it helps you garden better.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
But again, just like a.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Red light that says you've already surpassed the permanent welting point.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Exactly, you're done again.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
But just like the internet though, with everything that you read,
see or hear, and even those apps we're talking about,
just be cautious, you know. It's I think it's a
great guide and for the most part that are probably correct,
but I would do a little you know, I would
research a little more with whatever answer you're getting yeah,
you know.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I would be skeptical of anything with AI. One thing
that needs to increase is skepticism. Yeah, yes, of course,
because you know, some of this stuff out there is
just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, there are so many can't tell. There's so
many AI voices now on YouTube that are narrating, you know,
quasi documentaries or short stories, and I've come to recognize
them all, and I have a hard time knowing that
it's an AI voice when it says and if you're
like me, I would if I was like you, you
don't exist. And I've got to get in myself. I'm

(38:00):
margining absolutely.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
But I will almost argue to the other side of
it that I think that one of the biggest issues,
especially in the plant world, is the idea that there's
so many fake plant, fake images plants out there, you know, Yes,
the rose that doesn't exist, the orchid that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Give people that send me these rose things, the tree
that doesn't exist, and.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Our real, our real plants that have just been photoshopped.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
We gotta take a break, yea.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Let's let's keep this on the other side of the
news news for BIS talk radio that is, well, some.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Things to topics to go over from our listeners.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's right, no news coming up for Facebook Live. We'll
be back very quickly. Those on bistalk Radio back at
six minutes after. If indeed your market does carry both hours.
This is Garden America. Well, if you're on bistalk Radio,
welcome to our number two. Thank you for tuning in
those on Facebook Live. So just after the uh, just
after we ended our number one for BIS Talk radio

(38:58):
and again for for Facebook Live. It's a contine. You
a show. Tiger had to go outside and pay some bills. John,
he's paying a who's he paying? He went outside to
pay somebody?

Speaker 3 (39:05):
He said, he got a text the milkman, I believe,
Well the milkman. Yeah, we were talking about the milkman.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Here he breaks, he does, he he owes the milkman.
So Tiger will be back. Oh, here we go John,
real quick. Well you know what, let's let's start with
the questions comments above what I'm seeing right now to
stay in order.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yeah, one is from our our buddy John Dimenici from
South Sad. But I'm going to wait till Tiger gets
back so we can go over that toge Okay, Rachel
or Rachel Rochelle. Our friend Rochelle commented that her grandson
finally got the gopher that's been plaguing him because she
got the gopher hawk.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
What an accomplishment. Yeah, right, your first gopher. You feel proud. Yeah,
you know, skin it and frame it. So that's what
you know, like like somebody's first dollar bill when they
go into business.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I just use it. I use it to feed the
literal hawks, you know. I've got that little altar out
there that I just sacrifice the gophers. Sure, and then
let's see. Linda in reading wants to know if it's
too late to plant carrot in beat seeds in reading. Well,

(40:16):
reading is going to be freezing.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's either very hot or very cold in reading, right.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
There's some nice periods in between, but you know, it
depends whether it's warm enough for the seeds to germinate.
You know, unless you have a hard freeze, it's not
going to be a problem. So frosts aren't going to
hurt either the beats or the carrots. Radishes come up

(40:45):
right away. So one of the things I would do,
Linda is if you do plant the beats are the
carrot seeds, they take longer to come up. So in
those rows, put a few here and there, put a
few radish seeds. So the radishes will come up right away,
and they'll mark the row. So while the other seats

(41:06):
are waiting for the proper temperature to Germany, you'll at
least know where they are. Okay, a whole new set
of weeds is going to be coming up this time
of year.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Rochelle says, regarding her son and the gopher, he would
have liked to frame it and leave it out for
his buddies to see.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Well, speaking of showing it to your buddies, my wife
doesn't want to see the gophers anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Oh, the dead gophers? Yes, well, do you like a
cat that brings it in? All proud of yourself to
hold it up? You know, say look what I did?
Look look what it's just like? Got like a dog
or a cat that catches something and brings it in.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
You know, put in your thumb pull pull out of plump.
Say what a good boy am I? You know? I
put in the gopher pull out of gophers?

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Other than gophers, what else do you battle? What's what's
another nemesis of yours? Besides me? Besides me?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
You know, it's funny you use that word because I
have a rose called Nemesis.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Really yeah, and look who's sneaking back in here. Tiger
thought we'd wait until he got back, but no, no,
we started things.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Right behind Johns and then the cameras right on me.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
And then it's so funny because I said, who did
who did Tiger go out to pay? And he thought
you would not have to pay the milkman.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Oh, really, that doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Are you chewing gum? No?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I had some cheese.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Its that's great.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
You know what's funny is Janine has a coworker that
has a cow and gave us some Janine is your wife.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yes, she's a.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Coworker that has a cow, and he gave her some
real cow's milk, and.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
And it was.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
It was delicious. But I expected it to taste a
little bit different. I've't had I don't know if I've
ever had real I'm sure not homogenized. This is straight
from the cow to us. Still warm, no, not still warm,
but it was it was great. I expected it to
taste different, and it didn't taste different than when I

(43:04):
buy at the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
That much.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I mean, you buy two percent milk or whole milk.
I buy two percent, but it should taste a little creamier, right,
that's what I expected, but it was it was not.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I would I thought, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
And would you say, because I don't know, would you
say that it wouldn't last as long? It would?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
It would spoil and homogenize milk?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Right, it would expire quicker.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Not pasteurized, not pastized. Yeah, we raised our kids on
goat milk.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
And does that taste different?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'll tell you what I love goat cheese.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
It tastes better.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I'll bet it does.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Yeah, if you it has more flavor. Yeah, and you
think it might be an off putting flavor, but it's not.
It's really good.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
And does it does it bake well? Like you know,
can you use it in things? And some of that
flavor gets in because you know, like it's not going
to use real butter for things?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Oh? Yeah, that food tastes so much better.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Sure, there's not as much fat is in cow milk,
so you can't whip it, okay, you know, and to
make whipped cream.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, hearkening back to that song in the eighties, just
you know, whip it, right, wasn't that wasn't that divo? Devo? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Was that Devo? I think?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
So, okay, I'm not good with the eighties.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Now that we're bringing this up. Where did the phrase
don't have a cow come from?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Gosh, Bart Simpson?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
When I was when I was a kid, we said
that really.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Oh yeah, but why why would you say don't have
a cow?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well, if somebody who is watching us on Facebook knows
the origin of don't have a cow, let us know
we like things like that.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Do you know where that from? Bart Simpson?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Do you know where the term like give me a shot,
you know, like a shot glass? Do you know how
that started?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Oh? Yeah, because they used to trade bullets for drinking.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
That's exactly right. A guy would go into a saloon.
He didn't have a lot of money, so he would
trade bullets for a drink and give me a shot.
Good for you, tiger, you know what you get an a.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Doc coll to day. It started with him, right, is
that right? That?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I don't know. I just thought it was something that
a lot of the the old West guys, the cowboys
would do.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, I didn't know either.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Right, just just like riding a shotgun be.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Part of the conversation wagons in the wagons, right exactly.
I was going to say, we had a question here
and I thought it was a good topic, okay, from
our buddy John Dimentici. Okay, And he said, since the
weather's starting to change and this was something I wanted
to talk about anyway, can you explain what the term

(45:33):
dormancy means in all plants that are not a lot?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Think he knows what it means in the lawn, but
what about other plants.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
That's a very good question. I think a lot of
times we talk about things that are just natural. Yes,
and we have people that listening that go like in school,
I should know that, but I'm not going to raise
my hand. I want that because.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
That's why we had That's why we have you, Brian.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Exactly, I would say, I would say to the the
to the lay person, dormant means like hibernation, right in
a sense.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Right, But why the plants hibernate?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Then, well, they're they're tired, they're exhausting, Are you kidding me?
Because they exert I would imagine, because they were exerting
so much to stay alive and grow, And that's a
region is it a regeneration.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
What about in the tropics, do they continue to grow
or do they go dormant?

Speaker 1 (46:25):
You know that question has plagued humankind, John.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Through the sense, through the centuries, back to the Mayas,
right or even before. I don't know who is before
the Mayas? Oh God, was there someone?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I'm oh, there's always been somebody before.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Well, that's true until you get to Eden.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Anyway, on dormancy, it depends on the particular plant and
where it grows. In a cold area, a plant plants
go dormant to survive, right, the harsh condition freezes and
snow and ice and things like that.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
And you would and you would argue why, And I
think that's the ultimate thing, is like what you just said,
it's self preservation, because plants have foliage to be able
to produce energy, and that's the way they breathe, that's
the way they do everything.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Right, Well, those cells in a cold environment.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
They would freeze and die and explode and explode, and
so therefore you would the plant would die if it
was trying to grow during that time.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
John, Isn't that how freeze proof works. We used to
use that product when you spray it on when it
gets cold. Didn't that affect the cells somehow? Or protect
the cells?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
They used to say it worked like that was from
I think that guy was.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Arkansas down south?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Was that Arkansas? I thought it was Alabama, University of
Alabama on the two, But he explained it as being
anti freeze for the cells. It would go into the
cells and prevent the cells themselves from freezing. And and
I've got like twenty bottles of it. If you need one,
let me.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I came across a few. I think you need it
more than I do. Yeah, you're you're colder than I am.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
But you know I look at it as well. That's
something else I gotta do.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Okay, we're going to take a quick Breakka, stay all right.
When we get back, let's don't either Tiger Dorman. We're
going to talk about dormancy and taking naps. That's on
the agenda. On the other side, a break for Bistok
Radio friends on Facebook Live. We are coming right back
here on guard in America. Okay, back from that break
here on Garden America, dormancy, hibernation and why do why

(48:33):
do plants self preservation?

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, but you you you brought up.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Hibernation and dormancy and hibernation are very different, you know,
in the sense of plants and animals.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
But in the climate signals time for the plants to
go dormant. As the days get shorter in northern climates,
there's less sun to keep up the growth of the plants,
so that then the temperatures begin to cool and you know,
signals to the plants native to that area, it's time
to rest. You know, let's hunker down. It's a hunkering

(49:05):
down period. You always think about it.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
And it's the same thing as far as like what
you were kind of hitting out with animals is like
the reason why they go and hibernate is because they
wouldn't be able to survive out in that environment during
that time of year.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
But we don't say the bear's gone dormant.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
But yeah, but then you know, people do get very
confused because they think, oh.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Only only plants only.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Go dormant in the winter time, and you know that's
not the truth because, as John mentioned to each region,
plants go dormant during all times of the year.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
It just depends on the region.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
They go dormant in the desert, in the summertime because
it's too hot, they go, you know, dormant in areas
that it gets too cold because it gets too cold
in the tropics. You know, he brought up that ultimate question,
does the plant ever go dorm.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
That was my next question, was that hopping on the
back of what John stated was here in southern California,
for the most part, we have decent weather all.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Year decent what too dormant times.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
But let's say a plant that normally goes dormant in
the winter is in a climate that's warm all year,
I mean really warm. What would that do to their
so called biological clock.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Well, i mean, you know, John works with roses, and
you know, normally roses go very dormant in the winter time,
they lose all their leaves, they go to a complete
rest cycle. Well, you know, southern California doesn't.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Always mean that, you know.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
So he's got he's got plenty of roses out there
in January that have leaves on them still, maybe even
are trying to set flowers still.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
That's why with roses, and it's different things with different
varieties of plants, but with roses, right now, you you
should have a few weeks ago stop dead heating, because
when you're deadhead, plants know that, hey, we've done our
work for this year. When we set seat, you know,
now we can rest. Well, if you keep cutting off

(51:05):
the hips, you're signaling to the plant you need to
keep working. You know, you still need to reproduce, So
you leave the hips on and that helps the plants
go darm it when the weather may not be cold
enough for that to happen.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Now, deadheading, that that a term. You call that the
Jerry Garcia method.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and makes.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
A lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
And John brings up a great point right there because
people would then say, you know, well, what happens if
the plants don't go dormant, Like what if you you know,
what if you tried to get it to live through
the whole year, What if you fertilized it, what if
you grew it in a greenhouse?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
What if you did all these things?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
In other words, forcing it to do something against it will.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Right and and ultimately you can create a very problematic
plant that could be very pro disease or pasted or
even you know, you can stress out a plant like
it's it's you can do.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
That to stay up for a week exactly how would
you feel by Friday if you made it that thing?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I might crack on you. I might crack on you.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
But yeah, so I mean look like when his face
turns red.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
But letting things go dormant is also important, you know,
because to the health of the plant.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And how about we've talked about the weather when it
when it gets all of a sudden it's hot and
then cold and hot and cold, and what that can
do to plants because it's signaling one thing and then
back to the other.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Well, you know, I'm wondering. I think I told you
guys that for my birthday, I got a little greenhouse
with a heating pad underneath.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
It was in your library when we were there, was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, well very nice.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
I stuck some rose cuttings in and normally in the
winter it can take like two to three months for
a rose to either die or root for me because
of the cold weather. And yeah, and and I I
just don't know what it's going to do. But I
put this in my garage. It's got the heating pad underneath,

(53:06):
and it's got the LED lights on top.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
You like those led lights.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
In two weeks, the rose is rooted. Wow, wow, and
that never would have happened this time of year and
usually they, you know, turn black at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Do you like controlling your environment?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I like being in control all the time.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
So now, but now here's another thing though, that goes
along with that. So it rooted in two weeks.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Kay.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
So you have these cuttings, how are you going to
get them to go outside?

Speaker 3 (53:34):
You know, that's the next challenge right right, because they
have to be accling right now. They're under perfect condition.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
They're loving life right now.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
You know, you know who you are.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
You're doctor Frankenstein.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
And I'm trying to decide. Is it important that I
turned the lights off.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
At night to start acclimating them?

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Yeah, because I've been leaving the lights on twenty four
hours a day, and you know, I have to do
some research. Do the plants, you know, because the plants change.
They they give off use carbon dioxide during the day
and give off oxygen, but at night the reverse is true.
They use oxygen. I said that backwards.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, I'm my head speaking.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
During the day they use oxygen and give off carbon dioxide.
At night they reverse that. They Okay, so plants breathe, well, no,
because plants use carbon dioxide.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
And give off oxygen that we breathe.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Right, But then you're saying they reverse that at night.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yes, so I'm wondering do they if they're reversing it
at night, process sees are changing.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Yeah, So like you're saying, you're all, they're always breeding
in carbon dioxide. So the fact that they never breed
in oxygen because like you never allowed to rest, could
that ultimately stress out the plants?

Speaker 3 (54:54):
What I'm wanting?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Could that ultimately kill the plant?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Well, you know what, you can write a paper on it. Yeah,
that's what That's what people do.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
But also, I mean, you know, you have temperatures to
deal with, So what are you gonna I mean, aside
from the light, where where is their next place?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
You're going to put them in the garage by themselves?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And how many docuse? What's that? How many do you have?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Forty?

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Well? I would take a couple, split them up and
give them different situations.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Your favorites pick your right, don't don't the ones that
you don't like?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
You know that right now they're not they're in those
little uh uh pellets.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
So yeah, I didn't use soil because I wanted it
to be sterile. I thought that would help. So I'm
going to take them out and transfer them into ocean forests.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Okay, for which I this moment.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Save the moment last December, so.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
It's aged a year, Yeah, says but if you have
the lights on twenty four hours a day, how does
it know when it's night?

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Yeah, That's that's what the question is is and is
that going to ultimately stress out the plant? And this
goes back to kind of like even our own world,
because there are areas that during certain times of the year,
they never go dark, and so for those plants up
there have to acclimate to that thing. And that's why

(56:24):
some plants will never live there is because some plants
will never be able to acclimate to that. They require
like what John said, right, maybe they require that change
in breathing in order to survive where that plant up
there has acclimated to not needing that change.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
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Speaker 3 (57:14):
I don't think Tiger Tiger alluded to this, but he
may not have been clear enough because Carla is mentioning
some plants go dormant in the summer, and that's what
you were saying. You know, you're right, two dormant seasons,
and just as cold can signal dormancy, excess heat can
also signal dormancy, and so so plants do have.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
To and in excess rainfall. That's you know, we back
to kind of like this idea. Do plants go dormant
in the tropics? And yes, they can go dormant there
because things like excess rainfall right and force them to knock.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And they have a dry season.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
So there's certain things that it's not just cold or hot,
it's also you know, rainfall, it's also time, time of
year where the time of day, you know, like you know,
maybe there's excessive light, maybe there's not enough light.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
One of the this was back when I was growing
up in like middle school. Remember the big thing was
like the biodome because I think, I think the world
was failing at the time, and they were trying to
like be like, oh, how can we create our own
We're going to create a dome that we.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Can all in the world.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Remember how close we.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Came there was like acid rain and.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
And then somebody came in and and and grated the
the world as a d so we didn't flunk.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
It was a d plus, I think.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
But they were they created this like biodome right to
be like if we needed to, we can all go.
We could all go into this biode.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Well that's the same thing as going to another planet.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah that was before Eline Musk, So let's just go
to Mars.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
But but but they ran into this issue because they
created the ideal for everything.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
But then they realized we can't do.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
That, not gonna that doesn't want right, Like, like that's
not the they can't do that, Like we have to
create the good and the bad for it to work.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Well, there's a reason why we have seasons. I mean
there there, you go, right there.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
In the first biodome where everything was perfect like that,
and they realized that it's just not going to work with
the Garden of Beat exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Well, yeah, but that's they should have kept the snakes out.
The problem one thing a snake. My gosh, we didn't
think of that. Okay, So Tanya's question, John, actually she's
got two all right, scroll up?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Is she a premium member?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
You know what her credit's good?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Okay, she said, uh, pre read it.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Though, sure.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Well no, No, I got waylaid by Kevin's question. Does
Roger Hedgecock still have Apple or Julia?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Kevin, I haven't seen watching about five six years. I
don't know. I don't know that, but I know when
quiring minds want to know that, John, that's why Kevin
asked it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, I think I told you I did a show
with Roger Hedgecock once.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Have I any apple orchards?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
No, no, yes, it was at the at the fair
Delmar Fair. Anyway, Tanya says, reminds me of a question.
How long will soil be good if the bag's not open?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yeah, a year? Two does it break down in there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Right, Yeah, that's a very valid good question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Right, So no air necessarily is getting into the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Bag now because they always put holes in back. Well
they I don't know any bag that does not have yeah,
you know what they.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Would have to that's right yet, Yeah, otherwise it'd be
like putting an egg in the microwave.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yes, right, it would be you are right, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
And it depends on the kind of soil because if
it's something like the Fox farm soils that are very active, yeah,
very active. The the microorganisms in there are living and
they're going to continue to grow until they're too dry
and then they'll go dormant.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
And they're taking all the nutrients out of the bag.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
But the soil is still good. The if you have
a soil like a steat start seed starting soil, those
are usually tero so those you could seal up and
nothing would happen. Right, So it depends. But normally the
I don't think you have to worry about there's no
expiration dates on any bags of soil, but they do

(01:01:31):
put it on trying to think tiger isn't it on
micro risey sometimes yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
So so I mean when it comes to that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Like you say, there is no expiration date, it's kind
of like sometimes you know this idea of medicine. They
put an expiation date on medicine, and it's not that
the medicine expires, is that it loses some of its efficiency, effective, potency, potent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
And that's the same thing with the soil.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Is that you know, if you leave it and don't
put it in the soil and water it and have
or new organic and air and all that kind of stuff,
it's it's going to become less potent.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
You know, there are from soil to dirt exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
But then there are products out there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
You know, there's a few synthetic fertilizer companies that produce
soils that do they do put synthetic fertilizers in there,
and those will go bad after maybe six So what's
the difference Because they're synthetics, so they so they lose
they lose their potent seek much quicker. We've talked about
this organic material breaks down very slow and it always

(01:02:35):
is kind of there. It would take hundreds of years
in order to lose its effectiveness. Where you know, a
chemical fertilizer, if it's exposed to air and sunlight and water.
It could lose its effectiveness in days.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Or a week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Anything anything created in the lab for the most part
not going to last as long.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Yeah, but chemicals, a lot of those will actually transfer
through the bottle. They I'm trying to think. We still
have a guy on the show we before he referred
to him. I probably shouldn't say what he referred to them, ass,
but the bottles.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Shut down and we're going to be demonetized if.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Well you remember when the there was the food crisis
in Ethiopia.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
This is when the world was failing. Yes, when the fact.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
During the biodome, he would call him Ethiopian bottles because
the bottles would get you know, sucked in, right, And
that's because the chemicals were leeching out. So let's see.
That brought me to I was you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Were just making the point of the chemicals and I
was actually always going away like they never like from
the day that there's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Plastic, Like it was a glass bottle that went and happened.
But you know now we use plastic. But the fertilizer
that I use my roses is from Gromar, right, and
I think they make it special. Uh, certain times of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
The year because I think, yeah, I couldn't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah, you told me you couldn't get it. But the
San Diego Rose Society gets it every year. You put
in your order before December and they get it for you.
But when I get those bags, there's an expiration date
on them. It says only good for one year because
there's a lot of living organisms in the area and
they have to have to be used.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
And also, I mean, you know, to some degree, it's
on the bags. It's it's where you keep that bag.
You know, as you mentioned, if that bag gets really hot,
oh yeah, inside there, it begins to also affect the
organisms because they can only survive under certain temperatures and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
If the if the bag doesn't get.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Proper airflow, as you mentioned, Brian, you know, it could
affect what's in the bag. So but so, to answer
her question is that there is no expiration date.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
But I wouldn't I wouldn't leave it lying around.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Yeah, I wouldn't keep it more than six months to
a year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
After that, it's kind of like you might as well
just throw it in your garden then and just see
what happens, because it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
The sale organic material. Yeah, whatever's in your garden can use.
You know, we covered one area of dormancy, but then
the other thing to cover is what do you do
when cliants are dormant? And that's happening now you know
the days are shorter, you know, cut back. If you've
got irrigation set up to come on every so often,
it doesn't need to come on as often anymore. The

(01:05:37):
did you have rain, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I did I have two days of rain. Rain yesterday
and rain this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Oh really, well no, I didn't see this morning, but yesterday, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yesterday it came down for maybe like three minutes, really hard.
Really yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Hey, Carlo wants to know is there something she can
do to stimulate blooms on a white geranium she wins
to use for a Christmas display?

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Oh yeah, well John doesn't agree with me, but I
say yes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Well you give both and then she can choose.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah. See who was right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
No, first of all I was going to say is
geraniums are one thing that you want to make sure
don't get over water this time of the year. Carl
is in Huntington Beach right by the coast. It's going
to be even cooler.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
So maybe a little windy too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yeah, so you do want to make sure that they
dry out in between waterings. Don't keep them damp all
the time, or they're just going to rot. And then
the other thing is that geraniums do pretty good during
the winter because you don't have budworm coming up, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Like fall they look after the summer when they get
terrorized by bud worm and they're stressed out in the fall,
they look beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Yeah, But so anyway to keep them going. The other
thing with light, I don't know how you're going to
keep keep help that, but they should just keep growing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
But how do you get them to blue? John? That's
her question.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Now, that's what you want to answer right now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
I just say super blue eating, Yeah, exactly. And John
doesn't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
He doesn't think that they.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I didn't say I don't agree.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Veronica is answering a question here, like plumri is time
to stop watering?

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yes, yeah, Plumaria are going dorm and you think of
Plumeria is being tropical plants. Yeah, there there's actually one
species that is tropical.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
We've got to take a break, and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
The other species is not. But we'll tell you after
the break.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Okay, zip I gotta stay on time. We've got one
more segment coming up is Talk Radio, Facebook Life Stay
with US Guard in America. Coming right back. Laughing and scratching.
That's what we're doing here, especially between breaks. Okay, let's
get back to what we were talking about here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
So we don't we're.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Talking about Well, the original question was I can speak up.
I guess, uh, we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
A golf match. What's going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
At the fourth tee looks like twenty five yard putt.
So Carlo wanted to know about stimulating blooms. And then
we're talked.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
About, Oh, the plumeris is what we were talking about,
and you were saying there's two, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
There are.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
There is a tropical species which is evergreen and it
doesn't lose its leaves, but that's very sensitive to cold,
so you've got to really cut back on the water
in the winter even for that. But the other species
is native to Mexico, and Mexico does get cold, and

(01:08:32):
if you're not in tropical Mexico does get cold, so
they're gonna lose their leaves. And yeah, you can stop
watering altogether.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
And you want to stop water because this idea, like
what we talked about it if you keep watering, if
you keep fertilizing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
It, it wants to grow.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
It keeps growing, and then it gets cold and then
that does way more damage because it's full of water
and it's full of new growth. And that's very sensitive
to when there is a freeze. Because there's more water
in the plant, the growth is tender and not hardened
off like old growth should you know on the plant
at that time should be And you know in nature,

(01:09:09):
nature does that for the plants. It stops watering, it
stops you know, growing, it does all that. You know,
that's where we get into trouble in our own landscape.
Like John mentioned, turning off the water or turning it down.
You know, you you have things you know, you know
not deadheading. You know, we have things we can do
to make sure we don't encourage growth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Would you suggest cutting back on the weather.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Yes, putting in a dealm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
You're quick to today. Tiger's on top of it too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Carlo is going to try your super bloom and she's
going to talk to the plant. Oh there you go,
just to just to make sure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Oh yeah, I go on the patio how's everyone doing
a little walkthrough?

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
How's it going on? You look at it would answer
you back, is when you have the problems, do you
know that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
They're not supposed to you're saying that they shouldn't be hearing.
The plants.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Well, we've talked about just before. But Charles Darwin wrote
a book called The Power.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Of Movement in Plants, Music and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Well, it was talking about plant like, uh, sensitive plants
you know, can move, venus fly traps can move. And
there was there's a grass that we call dancing grass
that moves according to vibrations. And Darwin spent years trying

(01:10:29):
to get the plant to move according to specific commands,
because you would you could come in and you would
could make a noise, or you could say something and
the plant would move, so you know, you come in
and say hello or but then he started going turn
to the right of that I'm making up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I don't know, but he tried to get it to
do right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
It sounds like opera conditioning Pavlov's dog to a degree.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Well, I think he might have assumed that because the plant,
the plant was moving in reaction to what he was saying,
rather than air waves you know, sound waves. But anyway,
he wrote a whole book on it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
But then there's that whole language barrier different parts of
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
He wrote it in English. You're talking about depends where
the plants are native to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Right, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
That was in Water for Elephants. Did you ever read
that book?

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Who wrote that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I read that the book.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
I can't remember who wrote the book. But in Water
for Elephants, they would were beating the heck out of
this elephant because they wanted to obey commands. And then
they found out it was Polish. You know that he
had been raised under Polish commands and when they got
someone to speak Polish, the elephant did everything it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
So their answer was to beat it if it didn't
respond to their commands.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
I thought you were going to say they figured out
that the elephant was deaf.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
No, no, no, it just spoke a different language. It's
been trained in Polish. Yeah, in a Polish circle.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Circus circus circus.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Don't worry, we've got it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I got the first four letters.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
You've only got about three minutes. You're on the home stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Yeah, you guys should take it from here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Next week. We have ed Libo joining it ed Livo.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Oh yea, I'll tell you what asked him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Well, he's been busy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Ask him one question. He'll give you twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
He's been busy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
You have not only twenty minutes, but twenty interesting and informative.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
So make sure that you can take notes next week. Yeah,
either behind your keyboard or take shorthand or something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
If you have any fruit tree questions, you know, plan
those now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Yeah, during trees next week. And I'm sure John's going
to have something in the newsletter regarding all of this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Yeah, he's gonna talk about some new varieties out there
that we can get excited for in the coming year. Obviously,
talk about you know, what's happening right now in this
time of a year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Answer questions for you when it comes to fruit trees.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
I had a couple of complaints by the way. People
said that they could not sign up for the newsletter.
Oh really, and it was well, two people did, and
that shouldn't be. I think you can do it on
our website. But if you do have a problem, if
you send a note to Johnigardenamerica dot com. I'll sign
you up myself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Oh that's yeah, you'll just take care of it. You'll
do that. You'll do the heavy lifting.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Still free after all these years, Brian, how do we
do it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
John?

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Volume volume This week there was an I wrote an
article on gardening by the moon.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Yeah, the light of the silvery moon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
The light.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Now tell your note doesn't even know what you're talking about.
That was a song from the thirties.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah, by the Light of the Silvery Moon.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
It's like a barbershop quartet song.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Right, yeah, exactly. He's gonna go when we're done, he's
going to be in his truck and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
A lot of rhymes in there, like croon and swoon
in June.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Oh, so we got a minute to go. Time to
wrap things up again. Ed livel next week talking fruit, trees, fruits,
and he wants a lot of your questions.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Please please, that's what he lives for.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Question he does quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Rochelle wants to know if you have grown more in
the nursery.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Yes, we do.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
So there you go. All right, we're gonna wrap things
up here. Good to be back in studio, back in
the deep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
End of the hole. Miss you guys, I know you did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
You came in, you were you were emotional this morning
he took his hanky out, dagged his eyes. Yeah, so
what have you did? Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Be safe, have a safe week, and we'll do it again.
We will reconvene next week right here in Studio B
from the iHeartMedia and Entertainment Headquarters, San Diego, California. I'm
Brian Main, John Magnascar, Tiger Palafox. Have fun and enjoy.

(01:14:49):
Be back next week. Ed Leifel. Right here, we're talking
fruit trees on guard in America. Take care,

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