December 8, 2025 • 19 mins
Shout out to my Cuzzin Yaya stopping by the station and chopping it up! She dropped real gems on this one from personal struggles, to bay area lingo and more.. Check it out!!
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right back at it. Man, favorite cutting Dre one of
UM six KM. Yell, you see what we got going on?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I always say we got a special guest in the building,
but this time I really mean it. We got a
special guest in the bill in Bay Area. Please welcome
to the show. She already got on my head. I
called her the Princess. She say, ain't no princess going
on nothing. Welcome to the show, the Queen of the Bay. Hello,
it's comma yet what that shit do? What's happening? How
you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm hung the fuck over, hungover from what what you
was doing in the video yesterday? But you know how
that shit go?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Video?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
She was turning to parties the show for show what
it's a video off the new project. First of all, congratulations,
we're definitely gonna talk about it. First, lady, the my
album out now, But was it a song off of
that project?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It was actually another one.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Which was the Fired Up album. No, I mean the
girl just working. Why you drop so much music lately?
I think you dropped two albums like in the last
few months.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
My round that shit was like two three weeks back
to back back to back, right, Yeah, I just feel
like the industry, like everybody attention span these days is
really slow, So I like, if you don't stay in
they face, then they forget about you. So I talk
to Currency a lot, and that nigga just be like
you like one of the last players left, but you
ain't dropping religiously how you supposed to.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
He's like just dropping it. It makes sense later.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I feel like that's a lot of shit that
artists go through, especially when you go from a major
to Indy.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You just be trying to just and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But I feel like the people who know about you,
it's so many people who don't know about you, and
you be trying to cater to them old people forgetting
that it's a whole world of people that still ain't
even fucking discovered you, So try to touch them as
much as you're touching the old ones.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's it like, Like you say, for your adjustment from
a major to Indy, do you prefer to stay Indie
or would you because you've seen both sides, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I feel like I'm an artist that need like major
pushing because it's like a Missy or you know, Dochi
or something like everybody ain't gonna understand it today. Ain't
got no choice but to get down and lay down,
you know what I'm saying. And I feel like when
it comes to that creative side, that's why I'm at
with it. But musically I drop so rapid, it's like
a future, like, damn you dropping all this catchy shit
this fast without that back in, a lot of shit
(02:04):
to go overlooked.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But it's like the ship slap niggas.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, I can really do that, but I feel like
it's just that I don't got that back in. And
even when I had the back and it was hard
because my CEO didn't really let me drop how it's.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Supposed to drop.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So I had all that momentum, but nobody's a work out.
Now I'm playing ketchup like seven eight years later to
show the world like, oh no, I'm being on this.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So where we're at right now? Are we? Are? We?
Are we in talks with labels? Are we? Are? We
just working until somebody got right numbers.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Or as I was pulling in here and and R
from a major label literally takes me a big one too.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's like, hey, what's up? But I feel like that's
because the same ship you're saying, like, oh shit, this
been dropping what.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You want right right right? They're paying attention. Let me
try to get this bag real quick or something. What
you got going on over there? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And sometimes they just want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, they want you to come in and play so
they can see, like, all right, is it even worth
investing into? And it always is, but it's just like,
what number is you going to invest into me that
I feel like it's profitable right right?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
For show for show? Okay, business lady, you hear what's
going on? I got a question and I'd be wanting
to ask you this question for a minute. Okay, how
does it feel to be rich?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I don't chucking know you hear what I'm talking about.
Right now, we're talking about numbers and crutching budgets. I'm
trying to fucking find out what that.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Song was one of them ones you had to have made.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
To right and this I think I only told one
interview of this on Our Generation Music during the pandemic.
I made like seven fifty and three months off Fuck
it Up because it went viral, right, But I didn't
know what the fuck I was doing, Like you know,
what I'm saying, you make so much money so fast,
I'm just blowing through the money. And then I realized
that's that part of being indy. You got to invest
that money, because I'm like, damn. If I would have
(03:43):
spent at least just like one fifty or two fifty
back into that on radio, whatever the record is fucking.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Plantingum would have been double triple whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
If I you know, this shit ain't never been on
the radio, but I'm like, shit, and it went this
far without the radio, but I wasn't on at that time.
I'm like, shit, I'm about to get chain, i'mbo to
get a ring, I'm about to get this car, this car,
I'm about to get that. So now I learned, like
when you got a record like that, pump it and
then pump another one at the same time.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And then the money is gonna triple.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you prefer to get like streaming or do you
prefer like show money? Like all of it? All of it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, I'm gonna make money on my sleep regardless
because I own my music, right, But I feel like
the bulk of your money really come from when you're
doing them shows. For sure, you getting them big shows
and merch back to back, like that ship is where
the money gonna really come in. And I want to
divert a little bit eventually and start acting doing all
that ship.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You feel me because I feel like I gotta be.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Good at it.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I just haven't touched the market yet.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
What kind of roles do you see yourself playing?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Like I want to be more serious, Like I don't know.
I feel like who the best person I can? You
know how you look at like ll or Tupac and
they got into the acting and it was like, I
t ain't a good example because that nigga the same
nigga on everything good tool Like It's like some people
they get into it and it's like you forgot they
was even the rapper fact, Yeah, for sure, Like Will Smith,
(04:55):
that's the best.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Perfect Will Smith is perfect. He is that I a
rapper to actor you kind of exactly. You know him
more as being an actor, but he got bars. Will
Smith came from and stuff. For sure. I want to
ask you something like with the success of like Kendrick
Lamar g and X album and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Are you on my phone? Hot girl? Hotline?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Anrry trying to tap in? I got a question for you.
With the success of Kendrick Lamar's gn X album and
stuff like that, a lot of people I'll be seeing
online say like, the bay Area missed the way he
opened up the doors for everybody brou but but we
just missed the way. What you think about that? Do
you agree?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Or what is both?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I feel like, uh, artistically and creatively, it's not a
lot of people who could follow up a gn X.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think I'm one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Honestly, I'm just telling you I got an album that's
sitting right now based on that. It's the bay Area
response to that. Oh, because I feel like because a
lot of niggas feel like he stole the coaching, but
I feel like he glorified it and nobody else rolled
with it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean he showed love what the turf fiends
in the video.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, the production everything about it was very bait oriented.
But I just feel like a lot of Bay Area
people be having a chip on their shoulder, like wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Here, niggas don't make the music, talk about not making
the music.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm one of the only ones who really like and
say and standing on it that I'm making the music.
The world want to hear like, right now, the soy
ain't really based on what niggas really want to hear.
It's only like one nigga I can say is like
staying oriented in the game. That's literally that nigga is
single handedly carrying a torture. What barrier music is supposed
to be a representation of everybody else is like we
didn't fucking took a piece of Chicago, a piece of Atlanta,
(06:41):
a piece of Texas, a piece of and trying to
make that our origin. It's like, Nigga, we don't even
wrap like that, y'all. Niggas all sounded like y'all from Detroit.
It's just it's a very fucking interesting place right now
that the Bay Area music is in.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
What's your thoughts on that? I seen a shot on
my brother from Los Ro because he said, can we
stop stealing everybody and lingo? And can we stop saying
on the dead homies it's supposed to be on Mama
Mama grand seatas or something like, bro, we lose it on?
Tell him? He fired, like, so what we were talking
(07:13):
about the lingo and everything? Do you feel like like
the Bay Area lost our our identity that we we
swaggered jacks.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
For everybody, made every region lose this identity because everybody's
trying to be like what they see is popular and immulated.
So it's becoming a thing where a lot of cultures
don't have culture, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like back in the days, you only saw something if
you went there. Now you can just pick up your
phone and become whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Facts like it was like word of mouth, like a
nigga like Nelly, right, a nigga be like, you gotta
hear this nigga he talk, I'm going now now man,
we be like hell no. Then you see it on
TV and then you go see it live you be like, oh,
this nigga is really that. Now all you gotta do
is pick up your phone and be like, I'm gonna
just like this nigga. I'm gonna die out here, just
like that nigga. I'm gonna get a change. It's like this,
but it's gonna say I. So it's very interesting, like
nobody wanted to be original.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's true. Man, Let's talk about this project. Man. First,
Lady at the Mob literally just released Where did you
get the title from? Uh? What what what made you
call yourself or did you call yourself first Lady the Mob?
Did somebody else? You know? Growing up in the ghetto
you gas?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Right, So Cardo bean on me for like eight years.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, he like, man, you.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Just did that?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know he is, Yeah, this is on this bullshit.
But he like, you supposed to be the first Lady
of the Mob Town.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Like I get you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You make a lot of money making the party music,
but you is a derivative of the mob. So when
I start working with DJ I, did you know that's
his sound? And I'm like, it wasn't no better fit
title then first Lady of the Mob, which is first
Lady of the Mob Town for the album?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
That's what that is. That's mob music.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, straight up? Who did you mention the producers or
who produced the whole project? Straight up? Straight up? How
many tracks on there? What's your favorite song with the fans?
What's the response so.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Far his seven songs.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I'm saying my favorite one is Scared to Fail because
I feel like that's the most vulnerable and realistic.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Okay, look because that's the last one on the album, right,
that's the last song. Because I was gonna ask you
about that for sure. For sure, I want to know
why are you scared of failure? Title? Because in our
eyes in the bay, you you the queen of the bay.
We ain't what what what what? Failure? Shit?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm saying there, I'm like, you feel being broke? That's
something I don't want. I'm telling you, nigga, I don't
want to go back to where I came from.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Like I feel like I always tell people.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That I'm an artist where the name and everything is this,
but the career don't match you.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So I feel like I'm still.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Like underground, but the world see me like differently sometimes,
So I feel like that's why I get complacent that
one I'd be like, damn, I don't want to fail,
like I just got to keep going because I'm not
at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm in the middle, and the middle is the worst
to me.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You ever see a middle class nigga struggling because your
number one fear is you don't want to go broke.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I ain't going back broke, no mode. I ain't never going.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Broke, no mode. But when you broke, you always desire
to be rich.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Once you get to the middle, it's like the worst
because you only got one option for real, which is
to go up, because the other option.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is exactly and there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's like, I feel like that's the worst position to
be in because once you reached nine times out of teen,
you could stay there unless you're just a dumb ass.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Right, but like you ain't gonna lie. I feel like
you a real one, commaia. I feel like a lot
of artists, especially rappers, male or female, they not as vulnerable.
And I feel like for you to open up like
that and you know, tell your truth, it is solid
for me. I mean, everybody always talk about how rich
and I'm balling this rap. I'm getting it. You came
in here, broke.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Got it back when broke got it back hell of times.
Let me tell you that because you you live and
you learn. I was twenty three making all that fucking money,
not paying taxes, all type of shit like you living,
you fucking learn. My niggas just settled with me for
thirty minutes. I owe the RS four hundred thousand. That's
me being transparent, Like wait for the last eight years
or and then listen. I had one year which was
(10:52):
like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. They tore my ass up
and I had a bad business manager.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
He found my shit then, right, ain't nothing off.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So for all them years, our cruel penalties fees never
found taxes till twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So it's like I was fighting niggaet off me, get
off me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Can you talk about the importance of having a good manager.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, No, it's difference.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's it's a manager, which is a motherfucker will you
say book, And it's a business manager, which.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Is a motherfucker that stay on top of your money.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You gotta have a great CFO and this ship because
there's so many things that can get overlooked, but it's
also a lot of things that can get deducted because
our whole lifestyle, like everything I got on tech niggas
a right off.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
This is a fucking entertainment costume. Me come here, make up.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
All that shit is expense for me to look good
because I'm an artist. So it's like we got to
You gotta have the right people who understand that because
this ship is very expensive, and them taxes ain't no
fucking yoke.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That they come through trying to see stuff, So you.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Can't even they can do that to me. They'll never
do that because I actually fucking was paying on it.
As I got hip to it, I started paying on it.
Then I had a great tax lady. She got on
shout out to miss Brendan. Brendan got on it. She
let them unders because at first that was like, why
the fuck is she writing off so much shit? So
I had one lady and the lady was a bit
she was She's like, I don't understand this, I don't
(12:07):
like this, and she ended up leaving. And then we
got this guy, I don't know what his name is.
He get your blessing. He like, well, just tell her
to start paying on it. So I paid off every
year except for that year, but I've been paying on it.
So he was like, all right, we will settle with
her for thirty thousand, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hell you today the fuck? What's your information right? Please? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
No, that shit real like, and I feel like a
lot of people won't be transparent about that. But it's
very very relevant to hip hop specifically because we all
come from the ghetto more than anybody else in any
type of origin of music. So it's like, we get
the money and the first thing we want to do
is go take care of everybody we know never had
and go get all the ship we never had. So
that leaves you in the deficit because you ain't understanding
like a lot of this money you're supposed to sit
(12:47):
on because you're gonna have to pay back on them
taxes right.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right for surely that's what's sucked. Maya. Are you dating
right now? Are you on to see you or what
you what you're doing? Kamaya single, Kamaya got.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Something to lie on on my foot of love of y'all?
Y'all ship right now?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
For like all my twenties teenage years trying to be serious.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Now, I'm like, fuck that ship.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Everybody on bushit anyways, just have fun and if I
just so happened to end up in a great situation,
I'm not gonna block lives, blessing, God's blessing, but ship to.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The fuck it we all? I'm just outside.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What's what's the red flag for? Kamaya?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I hate liars because I feel like it's so easy
to keep it real, Like I could tell a female
I'm dating you, I'm dating him, this is why I'm on.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
You gonna accept it? Are you not? And that's I
feel like that's the really shit you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I feel like that's more player anyways, because if you
still want to stay that, I mean, that got something
that you want.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I always tell people maybe if you can keep it
real with her or him or whatever, you know I'm saying,
and they respect what you're saying. Yeah, I think that's player,
you know what I mean? Like there's a song on
the radio with The Weekend and Playboy Card. I'd rather
lie than lose you.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, I'd rather just keep they gonna you're gonna go regardless.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
If you're gonna go, you're gonna no.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
My number one thing too, is I never want somebody
else to be able to tell my partner something else
that I could have just said.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I have just told you what I feel like.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I don't want you to be embarrassed, and I feel
like the realest thing I could do is be honest
with you to prevent that embarrassment. But so many people
be so afraid of losing somebody don't care about like
people self esteems and shit. Because I feel like that's
car metic. I'm creating badcarma for myself by not keeping
the real in fucking up your self esteem and all
that other shit. Because you could be trying to align
with a better person after me. But because all my
(14:22):
fucked up shit, you don't even see yourself worthy of it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So I don't believe in that.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I'm not out here fucking up people lives and self
esteems and all that shit. I'm keeping it being with
you if you want to tuck it with a nigga A.
If not, there's other options. Let's be real here.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
For sure, I ain't gonna lie if you choose to stay.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Straight up, man, KAMAI in the building Bay Area. Make
sure y'all go check out that new album, First Lady
of the Mob. I gotta ask you, man, the hottest
topic in the industry right now is this Diddy Diddy topic.
Of course, he just got found guilty on two of
the five charges. For you, as a woman, as an artist,
how do you feel. Do you feel like that they
got right free Diddy? Or is it like you know,
(15:03):
it's unfortunate. Respectfully, I feel.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Like I'm in the middle with it because I feel
like that man got kids, family, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
But I also feel like them women and them other
men is.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
People children, So it's like, shit, we all got.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, I'm saying I'm saying, so there's so many things
with that, and I feel like people be having like
I'm gonna just be real Ripe love Puff No puff
Puff is the first person to ever hear good night
and get a lot of people don't know that nigga's
in the room. Why do you like, I just signed
this artist, this her music, he hear her niggas all
that shit. Instead of clapped, I was like, all r,
nigg you're not about to make it because this niggas
a tough motherfucker. So that's when I knew, like, all right,
(15:37):
nigga about to crack. Long story short, I got love
for that nigga. But at the end of the day,
I know and we all see it. He got a
guy like complex. So I feel like if the world
don't hold him accountable, gonn always feel like he untouchable.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
So that's where it gets tricky at Yeah, yeah, I
definitely feel like, you know, as black people, we say
he beat the Fanes even though he didn't beat him.
He got found guilty on you, but he beat the
Fairs as far as we concerned, you know, But I
agree with that. I feel like he's been humble more
than anything.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know, they scared the fun out and I agree
with that because sometimes, like even me, I didn't did
some fucked up shit like me leaving guns and my
purses and going through the airport and you feel me,
And I'm like, nah, you needed to get that smack
in the fucking back of your head so you can realize, like,
tighten up, right, hell ya. I went to y'all on
hell shit, remember that niggas want that long ago, I
didn't got caught with two guns.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Come on, come on with a crew at people like not.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That me moving too fast.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But I'm saying like I'm saying all that to say, like,
if you're not held accountable for your actions, you ain't
gonna know how to correct them. So I feel like
this situation has showed that nigga like nigga and that
quick you can lose it all. And I feel like
anybody need that puff. I'm gonna fuck who it is,
fifty anybody at that level.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's like, Nigga, you.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Been playing in the game so long and getting a
smack on the wrist. It's like niggas feel like you
can't be held accountable for your actions. But it's like
at some point, even if it's not God, somebody going
hold you accountable.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Facts, facts. I want to talk about your uh and
I'm gonna let you go. I know you're a busy woman.
I was on your Instagram. You got new tattoos? Miss, Yeah,
what's the meaning of it? I've seen it was a
TLC tattoo? All right? What do they mean to you?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Musical idols? Who are your music or?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
T C played a big part in my childhood and
I found out my cousin so it just made me
that ship made me just like, oh ship this it
is so up started loving the group even more.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's we needed that feature.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You are, Come on you you cousins with a legend
t BO is your cousin like mama or daddy side
my daddy? Wow? And she she knows like.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, ain't no fake, no, no, my cousin is likelayusins
like no, we really like blood related?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah yeah we need that. I ain't gonna lie to you,
So tell me about like how they play, you know,
into your career and making up who Kamaya is?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That just stay players fun to me when I was
a kid, like even like pre for that that's some
player ship. All that ship they was on. I like
the color palettes, how fly they was. And then I
just felt like left Eye was a motherfucker. But it
was like to me as a woman with Tupaca is
the men left as a woman. She like a female
Tupaca if you really like study her for real. So
(18:09):
I feel like I just love the fuck out in
them for that reason, you know what I'm saying. I
just always stuck in that lane because of Missy tells
in the LI was like the same person in different
derivatives if you really think about it. Missy was like
the stand alone version of that Alia was like the
R and B buy or something. You had the group,
but they all had the same style and type of vibe.
So it's like that was my trifecta and Tupac was
(18:31):
my daddy in my mind, Like that's what made coma coma.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, straight up, man, I appreciate you stopping by chopping
it up with your cutting Dre. I could talk to
you forever, but I know you got stuff to do.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I ain't got about to crustations.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Bring cutting one of them crabs back is good, straight
up man. Kamaia in the building. Make sure y'all go
check out the album. First Lady of the Ma. You
understand me because she is mobbing, been at the end
of the bay Man until she died. Straight up. I
appreciate you, love, I'm supporting you. I understand me.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Because to this motherfucker so long. Yeah, I thought I
came here forgot about it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
No, I never. We love you up here. I ain't
gonna lie when I told everybody you was coming, like,
oh yeah, cool for show. We supported you on the show.
So anything you need, tap younch of cutting and just
love right your favorite cutting Dreil Cam. Yeah, we out
the dope piece.
Right back at it. Man, favorite cutting Dre one of
UM six KM. Yell, you see what we got going on?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I always say we got a special guest in the building,
but this time I really mean it. We got a
special guest in the bill in Bay Area. Please welcome
to the show. She already got on my head. I
called her the Princess. She say, ain't no princess going
on nothing. Welcome to the show, the Queen of the Bay. Hello,
it's comma yet what that shit do? What's happening? How
you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm hung the fuck over, hungover from what what you
was doing in the video yesterday? But you know how
that shit go?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Video?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
She was turning to parties the show for show what
it's a video off the new project. First of all, congratulations,
we're definitely gonna talk about it. First, lady, the my
album out now, But was it a song off of
that project?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It was actually another one.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Which was the Fired Up album. No, I mean the
girl just working. Why you drop so much music lately?
I think you dropped two albums like in the last
few months.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
My round that shit was like two three weeks back
to back back to back, right, Yeah, I just feel
like the industry, like everybody attention span these days is
really slow, So I like, if you don't stay in
they face, then they forget about you. So I talk
to Currency a lot, and that nigga just be like
you like one of the last players left, but you
ain't dropping religiously how you supposed to.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
He's like just dropping it. It makes sense later.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I feel like that's a lot of shit that
artists go through, especially when you go from a major
to Indy.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You just be trying to just and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But I feel like the people who know about you,
it's so many people who don't know about you, and
you be trying to cater to them old people forgetting
that it's a whole world of people that still ain't
even fucking discovered you, So try to touch them as
much as you're touching the old ones.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's it like, Like you say, for your adjustment from
a major to Indy, do you prefer to stay Indie
or would you because you've seen both sides, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I feel like I'm an artist that need like major
pushing because it's like a Missy or you know, Dochi
or something like everybody ain't gonna understand it today. Ain't
got no choice but to get down and lay down,
you know what I'm saying. And I feel like when
it comes to that creative side, that's why I'm at
with it. But musically I drop so rapid, it's like
a future, like, damn you dropping all this catchy shit
this fast without that back in, a lot of shit
(02:04):
to go overlooked.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But it's like the ship slap niggas.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, I can really do that, but I feel like
it's just that I don't got that back in. And
even when I had the back and it was hard
because my CEO didn't really let me drop how it's.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Supposed to drop.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So I had all that momentum, but nobody's a work out.
Now I'm playing ketchup like seven eight years later to
show the world like, oh no, I'm being on this.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So where we're at right now? Are we? Are? We?
Are we in talks with labels? Are we? Are? We
just working until somebody got right numbers.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Or as I was pulling in here and and R
from a major label literally takes me a big one too.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's like, hey, what's up? But I feel like that's
because the same ship you're saying, like, oh shit, this
been dropping what.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You want right right right? They're paying attention. Let me
try to get this bag real quick or something. What
you got going on over there? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And sometimes they just want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, they want you to come in and play so
they can see, like, all right, is it even worth
investing into? And it always is, but it's just like,
what number is you going to invest into me that
I feel like it's profitable right right?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
For show for show? Okay, business lady, you hear what's
going on? I got a question and I'd be wanting
to ask you this question for a minute. Okay, how
does it feel to be rich?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I don't chucking know you hear what I'm talking about.
Right now, we're talking about numbers and crutching budgets. I'm
trying to fucking find out what that.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Song was one of them ones you had to have made.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
To right and this I think I only told one
interview of this on Our Generation Music during the pandemic.
I made like seven fifty and three months off Fuck
it Up because it went viral, right, But I didn't
know what the fuck I was doing, Like you know,
what I'm saying, you make so much money so fast,
I'm just blowing through the money. And then I realized
that's that part of being indy. You got to invest
that money, because I'm like, damn. If I would have
(03:43):
spent at least just like one fifty or two fifty
back into that on radio, whatever the record is fucking.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Plantingum would have been double triple whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
If I you know, this shit ain't never been on
the radio, but I'm like, shit, and it went this
far without the radio, but I wasn't on at that time.
I'm like, shit, I'm about to get chain, i'mbo to
get a ring, I'm about to get this car, this car,
I'm about to get that. So now I learned, like
when you got a record like that, pump it and
then pump another one at the same time.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And then the money is gonna triple.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you prefer to get like streaming or do you
prefer like show money? Like all of it? All of it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, I'm gonna make money on my sleep regardless
because I own my music, right, But I feel like
the bulk of your money really come from when you're
doing them shows. For sure, you getting them big shows
and merch back to back, like that ship is where
the money gonna really come in. And I want to
divert a little bit eventually and start acting doing all
that ship.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You feel me because I feel like I gotta be.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Good at it.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I just haven't touched the market yet.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
What kind of roles do you see yourself playing?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Like I want to be more serious, Like I don't know.
I feel like who the best person I can? You
know how you look at like ll or Tupac and
they got into the acting and it was like, I
t ain't a good example because that nigga the same
nigga on everything good tool Like It's like some people
they get into it and it's like you forgot they
was even the rapper fact, Yeah, for sure, Like Will Smith,
(04:55):
that's the best.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Perfect Will Smith is perfect. He is that I a
rapper to actor you kind of exactly. You know him
more as being an actor, but he got bars. Will
Smith came from and stuff. For sure. I want to
ask you something like with the success of like Kendrick
Lamar g and X album and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Are you on my phone? Hot girl? Hotline?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Anrry trying to tap in? I got a question for you.
With the success of Kendrick Lamar's gn X album and
stuff like that, a lot of people I'll be seeing
online say like, the bay Area missed the way he
opened up the doors for everybody brou but but we
just missed the way. What you think about that? Do
you agree?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Or what is both?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I feel like, uh, artistically and creatively, it's not a
lot of people who could follow up a gn X.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think I'm one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Honestly, I'm just telling you I got an album that's
sitting right now based on that. It's the bay Area
response to that. Oh, because I feel like because a
lot of niggas feel like he stole the coaching, but
I feel like he glorified it and nobody else rolled
with it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean he showed love what the turf fiends
in the video.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, the production everything about it was very bait oriented.
But I just feel like a lot of Bay Area
people be having a chip on their shoulder, like wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Here, niggas don't make the music, talk about not making
the music.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm one of the only ones who really like and
say and standing on it that I'm making the music.
The world want to hear like, right now, the soy
ain't really based on what niggas really want to hear.
It's only like one nigga I can say is like
staying oriented in the game. That's literally that nigga is
single handedly carrying a torture. What barrier music is supposed
to be a representation of everybody else is like we
didn't fucking took a piece of Chicago, a piece of Atlanta,
(06:41):
a piece of Texas, a piece of and trying to
make that our origin. It's like, Nigga, we don't even
wrap like that, y'all. Niggas all sounded like y'all from Detroit.
It's just it's a very fucking interesting place right now
that the Bay Area music is in.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
What's your thoughts on that? I seen a shot on
my brother from Los Ro because he said, can we
stop stealing everybody and lingo? And can we stop saying
on the dead homies it's supposed to be on Mama
Mama grand seatas or something like, bro, we lose it on?
Tell him? He fired, like, so what we were talking
(07:13):
about the lingo and everything? Do you feel like like
the Bay Area lost our our identity that we we
swaggered jacks.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
For everybody, made every region lose this identity because everybody's
trying to be like what they see is popular and immulated.
So it's becoming a thing where a lot of cultures
don't have culture, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like back in the days, you only saw something if
you went there. Now you can just pick up your
phone and become whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Facts like it was like word of mouth, like a
nigga like Nelly, right, a nigga be like, you gotta
hear this nigga he talk, I'm going now now man,
we be like hell no. Then you see it on
TV and then you go see it live you be like, oh,
this nigga is really that. Now all you gotta do
is pick up your phone and be like, I'm gonna
just like this nigga. I'm gonna die out here, just
like that nigga. I'm gonna get a change. It's like this,
but it's gonna say I. So it's very interesting, like
nobody wanted to be original.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's true. Man, Let's talk about this project. Man. First,
Lady at the Mob literally just released Where did you
get the title from? Uh? What what what made you
call yourself or did you call yourself first Lady the Mob?
Did somebody else? You know? Growing up in the ghetto
you gas?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Right, So Cardo bean on me for like eight years.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, he like, man, you.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Just did that?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know he is, Yeah, this is on this bullshit.
But he like, you supposed to be the first Lady
of the Mob Town.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Like I get you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You make a lot of money making the party music,
but you is a derivative of the mob. So when
I start working with DJ I, did you know that's
his sound? And I'm like, it wasn't no better fit
title then first Lady of the Mob, which is first
Lady of the Mob Town for the album?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
That's what that is. That's mob music.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, straight up? Who did you mention the producers or
who produced the whole project? Straight up? Straight up? How
many tracks on there? What's your favorite song with the fans?
What's the response so.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Far his seven songs.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I'm saying my favorite one is Scared to Fail because
I feel like that's the most vulnerable and realistic.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Okay, look because that's the last one on the album, right,
that's the last song. Because I was gonna ask you
about that for sure. For sure, I want to know
why are you scared of failure? Title? Because in our
eyes in the bay, you you the queen of the bay.
We ain't what what what what? Failure? Shit?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm saying there, I'm like, you feel being broke? That's
something I don't want. I'm telling you, nigga, I don't
want to go back to where I came from.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Like I feel like I always tell people.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That I'm an artist where the name and everything is this,
but the career don't match you.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So I feel like I'm still.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Like underground, but the world see me like differently sometimes,
So I feel like that's why I get complacent that
one I'd be like, damn, I don't want to fail,
like I just got to keep going because I'm not
at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm in the middle, and the middle is the worst
to me.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You ever see a middle class nigga struggling because your
number one fear is you don't want to go broke.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I ain't going back broke, no mode. I ain't never going.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Broke, no mode. But when you broke, you always desire
to be rich.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Once you get to the middle, it's like the worst
because you only got one option for real, which is
to go up, because the other option.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is exactly and there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's like, I feel like that's the worst position to
be in because once you reached nine times out of teen,
you could stay there unless you're just a dumb ass.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Right, but like you ain't gonna lie. I feel like
you a real one, commaia. I feel like a lot
of artists, especially rappers, male or female, they not as vulnerable.
And I feel like for you to open up like
that and you know, tell your truth, it is solid
for me. I mean, everybody always talk about how rich
and I'm balling this rap. I'm getting it. You came
in here, broke.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Got it back when broke got it back hell of times.
Let me tell you that because you you live and
you learn. I was twenty three making all that fucking money,
not paying taxes, all type of shit like you living,
you fucking learn. My niggas just settled with me for
thirty minutes. I owe the RS four hundred thousand. That's
me being transparent, Like wait for the last eight years
or and then listen. I had one year which was
(10:52):
like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. They tore my ass up
and I had a bad business manager.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
He found my shit then, right, ain't nothing off.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So for all them years, our cruel penalties fees never
found taxes till twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So it's like I was fighting niggaet off me, get
off me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Can you talk about the importance of having a good manager.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, No, it's difference.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's it's a manager, which is a motherfucker will you
say book, And it's a business manager, which.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Is a motherfucker that stay on top of your money.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You gotta have a great CFO and this ship because
there's so many things that can get overlooked, but it's
also a lot of things that can get deducted because
our whole lifestyle, like everything I got on tech niggas
a right off.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
This is a fucking entertainment costume. Me come here, make up.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
All that shit is expense for me to look good
because I'm an artist. So it's like we got to
You gotta have the right people who understand that because
this ship is very expensive, and them taxes ain't no
fucking yoke.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That they come through trying to see stuff, So you.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Can't even they can do that to me. They'll never
do that because I actually fucking was paying on it.
As I got hip to it, I started paying on it.
Then I had a great tax lady. She got on
shout out to miss Brendan. Brendan got on it. She
let them unders because at first that was like, why
the fuck is she writing off so much shit? So
I had one lady and the lady was a bit
she was She's like, I don't understand this, I don't
(12:07):
like this, and she ended up leaving. And then we
got this guy, I don't know what his name is.
He get your blessing. He like, well, just tell her
to start paying on it. So I paid off every
year except for that year, but I've been paying on it.
So he was like, all right, we will settle with
her for thirty thousand, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hell you today the fuck? What's your information right? Please? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
No, that shit real like, and I feel like a
lot of people won't be transparent about that. But it's
very very relevant to hip hop specifically because we all
come from the ghetto more than anybody else in any
type of origin of music. So it's like, we get
the money and the first thing we want to do
is go take care of everybody we know never had
and go get all the ship we never had. So
that leaves you in the deficit because you ain't understanding
like a lot of this money you're supposed to sit
(12:47):
on because you're gonna have to pay back on them
taxes right.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right for surely that's what's sucked. Maya. Are you dating
right now? Are you on to see you or what
you what you're doing? Kamaya single, Kamaya got.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Something to lie on on my foot of love of y'all?
Y'all ship right now?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
For like all my twenties teenage years trying to be serious.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Now, I'm like, fuck that ship.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Everybody on bushit anyways, just have fun and if I
just so happened to end up in a great situation,
I'm not gonna block lives, blessing, God's blessing, but ship to.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The fuck it we all? I'm just outside.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What's what's the red flag for? Kamaya?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I hate liars because I feel like it's so easy
to keep it real, Like I could tell a female
I'm dating you, I'm dating him, this is why I'm on.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
You gonna accept it? Are you not? And that's I
feel like that's the really shit you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I feel like that's more player anyways, because if you
still want to stay that, I mean, that got something
that you want.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I always tell people maybe if you can keep it
real with her or him or whatever, you know I'm saying,
and they respect what you're saying. Yeah, I think that's player,
you know what I mean? Like there's a song on
the radio with The Weekend and Playboy Card. I'd rather
lie than lose you.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, I'd rather just keep they gonna you're gonna go regardless.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
If you're gonna go, you're gonna no.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
My number one thing too, is I never want somebody
else to be able to tell my partner something else
that I could have just said.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I have just told you what I feel like.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I don't want you to be embarrassed, and I feel
like the realest thing I could do is be honest
with you to prevent that embarrassment. But so many people
be so afraid of losing somebody don't care about like
people self esteems and shit. Because I feel like that's
car metic. I'm creating badcarma for myself by not keeping
the real in fucking up your self esteem and all
that other shit. Because you could be trying to align
with a better person after me. But because all my
(14:22):
fucked up shit, you don't even see yourself worthy of it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So I don't believe in that.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I'm not out here fucking up people lives and self
esteems and all that shit. I'm keeping it being with
you if you want to tuck it with a nigga A.
If not, there's other options. Let's be real here.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
For sure, I ain't gonna lie if you choose to stay.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Straight up, man, KAMAI in the building Bay Area. Make
sure y'all go check out that new album, First Lady
of the Mob. I gotta ask you, man, the hottest
topic in the industry right now is this Diddy Diddy topic.
Of course, he just got found guilty on two of
the five charges. For you, as a woman, as an artist,
how do you feel. Do you feel like that they
got right free Diddy? Or is it like you know,
(15:03):
it's unfortunate. Respectfully, I feel.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Like I'm in the middle with it because I feel
like that man got kids, family, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
But I also feel like them women and them other
men is.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
People children, So it's like, shit, we all got.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, I'm saying I'm saying, so there's so many things
with that, and I feel like people be having like
I'm gonna just be real Ripe love Puff No puff
Puff is the first person to ever hear good night
and get a lot of people don't know that nigga's
in the room. Why do you like, I just signed
this artist, this her music, he hear her niggas all
that shit. Instead of clapped, I was like, all r,
nigg you're not about to make it because this niggas
a tough motherfucker. So that's when I knew, like, all right,
(15:37):
nigga about to crack. Long story short, I got love
for that nigga. But at the end of the day,
I know and we all see it. He got a
guy like complex. So I feel like if the world
don't hold him accountable, gonn always feel like he untouchable.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
So that's where it gets tricky at Yeah, yeah, I
definitely feel like, you know, as black people, we say
he beat the Fanes even though he didn't beat him.
He got found guilty on you, but he beat the
Fairs as far as we concerned, you know, But I
agree with that. I feel like he's been humble more
than anything.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know, they scared the fun out and I agree
with that because sometimes, like even me, I didn't did
some fucked up shit like me leaving guns and my
purses and going through the airport and you feel me,
And I'm like, nah, you needed to get that smack
in the fucking back of your head so you can realize, like,
tighten up, right, hell ya. I went to y'all on
hell shit, remember that niggas want that long ago, I
didn't got caught with two guns.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Come on, come on with a crew at people like not.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That me moving too fast.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But I'm saying like I'm saying all that to say, like,
if you're not held accountable for your actions, you ain't
gonna know how to correct them. So I feel like
this situation has showed that nigga like nigga and that
quick you can lose it all. And I feel like
anybody need that puff. I'm gonna fuck who it is,
fifty anybody at that level.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's like, Nigga, you.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Been playing in the game so long and getting a
smack on the wrist. It's like niggas feel like you
can't be held accountable for your actions. But it's like
at some point, even if it's not God, somebody going
hold you accountable.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Facts, facts. I want to talk about your uh and
I'm gonna let you go. I know you're a busy woman.
I was on your Instagram. You got new tattoos? Miss, Yeah,
what's the meaning of it? I've seen it was a
TLC tattoo? All right? What do they mean to you?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Musical idols? Who are your music or?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
T C played a big part in my childhood and
I found out my cousin so it just made me
that ship made me just like, oh ship this it
is so up started loving the group even more.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's we needed that feature.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You are, Come on you you cousins with a legend
t BO is your cousin like mama or daddy side
my daddy? Wow? And she she knows like.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, ain't no fake, no, no, my cousin is likelayusins
like no, we really like blood related?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah yeah we need that. I ain't gonna lie to you,
So tell me about like how they play, you know,
into your career and making up who Kamaya is?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That just stay players fun to me when I was
a kid, like even like pre for that that's some
player ship. All that ship they was on. I like
the color palettes, how fly they was. And then I
just felt like left Eye was a motherfucker. But it
was like to me as a woman with Tupaca is
the men left as a woman. She like a female
Tupaca if you really like study her for real. So
(18:09):
I feel like I just love the fuck out in
them for that reason, you know what I'm saying. I
just always stuck in that lane because of Missy tells
in the LI was like the same person in different
derivatives if you really think about it. Missy was like
the stand alone version of that Alia was like the
R and B buy or something. You had the group,
but they all had the same style and type of vibe.
So it's like that was my trifecta and Tupac was
(18:31):
my daddy in my mind, Like that's what made coma coma.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, straight up, man, I appreciate you stopping by chopping
it up with your cutting Dre. I could talk to
you forever, but I know you got stuff to do.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I ain't got about to crustations.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Bring cutting one of them crabs back is good, straight
up man. Kamaia in the building. Make sure y'all go
check out the album. First Lady of the Ma. You
understand me because she is mobbing, been at the end
of the bay Man until she died. Straight up. I
appreciate you, love, I'm supporting you. I understand me.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Because to this motherfucker so long. Yeah, I thought I
came here forgot about it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
No, I never. We love you up here. I ain't
gonna lie when I told everybody you was coming, like,
oh yeah, cool for show. We supported you on the show.
So anything you need, tap younch of cutting and just
love right your favorite cutting Dreil Cam. Yeah, we out
the dope piece.
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!