August 5, 2023 • 29 mins
Ryan Gorman hosts an iHeartRadio nationwide special featuring Kelsi Sheren, Former combat veteran and artillery gunner and Author of Brass & Unity: One Woman's Journey Through the Hell of Afghanistan and Back. Kelsi Sheren describes her experience serving as the only woman in her specific unit in Afghanistan, along with the trauma she's dealt with and her battle with PTSD. She also discusses her work helping other veterans dealing with the same issues. Ray Stagich, Weather Channel Meteorologist, also joins the show. Ray Stagich breaks down the record heat much of the country has been dealing with, from why it's happening to what to expect for the remainder of 2023. Finally, Ryan talks to Dr. Jean Twenge, Author of Generations: The Real Differences Between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and Silents. Dr. Twenge explains the differences between current generations, including technology's role in generational differences, and what we should all keep in mind to help bridge those divides.
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Welcome to iHeartRadio Communities, a publicaffairs special focusing on the biggest issues impacting
you. This week, here's RyanGorman. Thanks so much for joining us
here on iHeartRadio Communities. I'm RyanGorman, and we have some important conversations
lined up for you. In abit, we'll check in with Weather Channel
meteorologists Race Stagick to get a betterunderstanding of why so much of the country
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has experienced record heat this summer andwhat's in store for us for the remainder
of twenty twenty three. Also,i'll talk to doctor Jean Tweeny, author
of Generations, the Real Differences betweenGen Z Millennials, gen X Boomers,
and Silence, to get a senseof some of the generational divides our country
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is currently facing. But right now, to get things started, I'm joined
by former combat veteran and artillery gunnerKelsey Sharon, author of the new book
Brass and Unity, One woman's journeythrough the hell of Afghanistan and back.
Kelsey, thank you so much fora ticket a few minutes to come on
the show, and of course thankyou for your service as well. Now
let's go back to the beginning ofyour story as an eighteen year old,
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What was it that led you towant to serve? Well, thanks for
having me I start to be here. I joined the army when I was
eighteen years old, fresh out ofcollege. I didn't like college, it
wasn't for me, and somebody influencedme. I had this amazing female that
I met a stranger, and sheleft a mark on me. I didn't
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come from a military background. Iknew that the wars were going on,
and I just felt a call togo serve my country. So you end
up in Afghanistan? What was thatlike? The moment you step foot on
Afghan soil and you see this countrythat you probably never thought much about before
all of this, barely even knewit existed. Let's be honest with ourselves.
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Did any of us really right?No much about it before we went.
You know, for me, itwas hot. It was like walking
into a blow dryer. That wasthe first shock to the system. I
knew we were going. I wasvery aware of it, but ultimately I
just wanted to go serve my country. I wanted the women of Afghanistan to
have the same education and freedoms andthat we had. And let's be honest,
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I had a very naive idea if, if anything, that that would
be achievable. But I knew thatI was willing to risk it and go
and do my best to help thesepeople. I gotta say, I was
riding your bio and you're tough.I mean, you were a competitive taekwondo
champion, you have a second degreeblack belt. But you're out there doing
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house to house insurgent patrol. Whatwas going through your mind as you're in
this foreign land doing such a dangerousjob as something like that, you know
that was not a job I wasprepared to go and do. I'm I'm
a trained artillery gunner. I runthe m for the seven to one five
five millimeter how it served that shootsup to forty kilometers with one hundred pound
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rounds. I was not trained togo do door to door, but like
every like every soldier at the beginning, a rifleman first. So I was
borrowed by the British to go betheir female CFP culture support team. And
my job was once we kick thosedoors in, was to go find the
women and children, put them ina separate room. And due to the
religious laws, I'm a female,so I was able to remove their burk
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as properly, to be able tosearch them efficiently. And what about the
fact that you were in that roleserving with all men. What kind of
challenge was that. Like, youknow, I'm gonna say something that might
sound at a little weird, butyou know, for me, I was
very lucky. I was one ofthe few women that I got lucky with
those guys. I've always worked withmen, That's always been part of my
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life. I know how to holdmy own the best to the best of
my ability, and I always knewas long as you showed up, did
your job and you did it well, the respect will come. So I
did. I actually had a goodexperience. I was very fortunate that the
British welcomes me in with open arms. The Americans for great to me,
most of the Canadians as well.I do have obviously very different perspective and
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a lot of people. I knowthat there has been a lot of issues
with women in the militarians and assault. I was not one of those,
so I was fortunate enough to comeout of it without that issue. But
I will tell you, of course, you have to prove yourself a little
bit more. You got to goa little harder. You really got to
dig a little deeper. But Iwas ready for the challenge. I was
looking forward to the challenge, andI was ready to show up for the
men, the less and the rightof me. I'm joined by former combat
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veteran and artillery gunner Kelsey Sharon,author of the new book Brass and Unity,
One woman's journey through the Hell ofAfghanistan and back. You mentioned your
interactions with Afghani women when you weredoing these house to house insurgent patrols.
What do you remember what stands outto you about some of those interactions.
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You know, depending on where wewere, Oh, we learned really quickly
how in those rural areas, howthat country really works, and how those
women were being treated. And forme, that was the most heartbreaking part
about it was the women over there, We're not being treated like we treat
our women. They're seen as lessthen, they're seen as a property.
They're seen as the ownership their ownto buy somebody, if you will.
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And that was really heartbreaking because tome, that means that the next generation
of girls. You know, whenwe understand when you uplift girls and you
educate girls, you change the world. But when you stifle that, you
know these girls were never going tohave a future. And now with the
Akimplot the way it was, thosegirls are not going to have a future
anytime soon. And then of courseyou saw the worst of what humanity has
to offer. You saw death anddestruction, the killing of those who you
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were serving with, and you're veryopen and honest about all of that in
this book. Yeah, I'm notgonna lie. You know, war is
war is war, and it isgross, and it's grewsome and it is
what you would think it would be. And ultimately, when I was with
the British, we went through anoperation and we sustained loss. Like so
many other American and British and Canadiansoldiers, we were losing people and that
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had a mark less and mark lessan impact on me, which ultimately end
up having me diagnosed with pustraumatic stressdisorder and I was medically released from the
military in two eleven. Another thingI thought was interesting about your book Brass
and Unity, One Woman's Journey throughthe Hell of Afghanistan and Back, is
that it seemed like you were tryingto offer those who haven't served and haven't
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been in those situations a kind ofsenses to what that's like because the fact
of the matter is a very smallpercentage of Americans Canadians do that job.
You know, the best way Isay it is, you know, trauma
is your trauma, and everybody hasa cup inside of them and whether that
cuts the shot glass size or afull gulf, you know, things are
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going to affect you differently. We'reall different people going through a human experience.
But what I will say is ifyou read this book and you want
to understand how veterans or first respondersor anybody who has trauma other feeling what
they're going through. I did mybest to try to illustrate that so that
it could bridge a gap. I'malways about connecting. I'm always about building
community and unity. It's built intomy name for a reason, and I
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want the rest of the world tounderstand so they don't look at us as
broken. People who have PTFD andare violence were not with people that went
through trauma that just need a littleextra help and a little extra support.
And if you give that to us, we can thrive and be the people
that we deserve to be. Nowwithout giving away the book, here you
did find a way out of thatplace you were in a way to deal
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with that PTSD, and you didit in a very unique way. Tell
us about that. Yeah, absolutely, you know, I've been really fortunate
to have a good community and alot of support around me. But what
it came down to was my doctorsuggestion for art therapy. Art therapy is
a great tool at our disposal,and anybody can do it with anything.
You know, you can create anything. But it is such a great way
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to get outside of yourself. It'ssuch a great way to move yourself forwards.
But if you couple that with journaling, with eating healthy, with grounding,
with moving your body, you know, physical fitness. We understand it's
four times more effective than an antidepressant. So we've got to get up and
move. But we need a communitysometimes to help each other get moving.
And so this book illustrates different waysof healing, whether through you know,
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psychedelic asystem therapy, journaling, arttherapy, grounding, fitness, community.
We need all of these things tothrive, not just as veterans, but
as human beings as well. Andout of all of this you end up
creating this jewelry business that's doing anawful lot to help veterans. Tell us
about that. Yeah, absolutely,you know. I started this art therapy
led into this business that started intwo thousand and sixteen. You guys can
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find it all at brass Immunity dotcom. We donate twenty percent of the
net proceeds to veteran organizations all overthe world and try and uplift this community
and the people that are doing thehard work. They are the vehicle to
put the money in the hands ofthese organizations. And I'm telling you right
now, some of these bracelets theychange live. We have the Buddy Check
bracelets, which is suicide prevention tooland it comes in a pack of two
and it prompts you to have ahard conversation with someone you love and it
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starts the mental health conversation. Wesay, you buy a pass, you
call a buddy, and you savea life. Chelsea Sharon, author of
Brass and Unity, One Woman's Journeythrough the Hell of Afghanis Stand and back.
Kelsey, thank you so much foryour service and also for coming on
the show. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me
and illustrating and helping veterans and therest of the world understand what we go
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through to thank you absolutely. Thanksagain. I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio
Communities and I want to bring inour next guest. We're joined by Weather
Channel meteorologist Ray Stage. Ray,It's always great to talk to you,
and I wanted to have you onbecause the weather has been a big topic
of conversation this summer, with theseextreme temperatures that so much of the country
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has been experiencing. So what exactlydid we see in June and July when
it comes to record setting heat acrossthe US. Yeah, well, let's
start with that. I mean,let's go into July and talk about the
warmest month on record, and thatmay not only be for the US,
that could end up being globally andglobally one of the warmest, one of
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the warmest Julys on record is youknow, records going back one hundred and
twenty something years, basically giving youan idea of this heat isn't just shared
by US and most of all inthe south central and southwestern part of the
US, but also across the globe. Temperatures have been a little bit above
normal and in areas like Arizona,I mean, you had a stretch of
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a leave in July where pretty muchthe whole month there were certain parts that
were over one hundred degrees. Yeah, Phoenix, for example, their streak
of one hundred and ten plus endedand it ended at thirty one days in
a row of one hundred and tendegrees are hotter. Now the old record.
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Listen to this. This what makesthis more amazing is eighteen days in
a row. So they almost doubledthe streak of how many days of one
ten plus in a row that theyhad, and that was last done in
nineteen seventy four. They've had fiftyplus one hundred degree days so far this
summer, and it continues to bewarm in the Southwest under this big heat
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ridge. So the Four Corners basicallyArizona through New Mexico and even into Texas.
I mean, it's been days anddays of heat advisories and excessive heat
and warnings. And let's not forgetabout South Florida. Down in South Florida,
the first ever issued excessive heat warningfor Miami Dade County was issued in
the month of July. Now,the criteria a little different for the counties
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in South Florida. Between you know, Broward and Miami Dade, but you
know you're really splitting hairs. Andmultiple days and weeks of heat advisories in
South Florida where you think, well, it's hot and humid every day,
this just gives you an idea.This was at a different level. So
we've seen these temperatures in some partsof the country over a hundred degrees,
some over one hundred ten degrees,over one hundred twenty degrees. But then
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we also see something called the heatindex. What is that, Well,
let's give the analogy of let's compareit to what the winter time. The
opposite is, and that's wind chill. So the wind shows on your exposed
skin. When the wind blows,it actually is pulling heat away from your
skin, so it's not allowing yourbody to stay warm. Now, when
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we talk about the heat index,that factors in the temperature and then the
humidity, and what humidity is ismoisture and water vapor in the air.
And what that does is that itkind of sticks to your skin and it
doesn't allow your body to cool.So it gives you that sensation of well,
if the air tempers and one hundredand your DW point is high in
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the mid upper seventies, for example, there's a lot more water vapor in
the air, so that thickness ofthe air is just allowing that hot air
to stick closer to your body andnot allow your body to cool. And
that's why we get these uncomfortable temperatures. And it's not always about well the
air temperatures one hundred. You know, you put one hundred over DW point
of forty, like the dry heatwe talk about in the deserts of the
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Southwest, it doesn't feel as badif you put one hundred over a seventy
or seventy five degree due point,which is going to make it feel like
one ten or hotter. So that'swhy heat index is really the more important
number in the summertime. And likeyou mentioned before, we've also seen this
extreme heat overseas. Europe has hadsome record temperatures as well, right,
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Yeah, there's been record temperatures andas I'd mentioned, globally, we could
be talking about maybe one of thewarmest summers on a record too. So
you know, the heat's not justshared here. There's places on the other
side of the equator where it's supposedto be winter where there are some temperatures
two that are a little bit aboveaverage, so you know, it tries
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to balance itself out. But Idon't hear of too many places across the
world having anything extremely below normal.Although the northern tier of the US,
believe it or not, hasn't hada terrible summer. I mean they haven't,
right, yeah, yeah, Imean, let's take New York City.
I mean, officially, we haveto define a heat wave for New
York City, for example, threedays in a row of ninety degree temperatures.
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They haven't had that. Last weekthey got close. They had two
ninety degree days in a row.The third day was eighty nine. So
officially, New York City hasn't evenhad a heat wave, so to say
so to the northern tier of theNortheast, New England, the Midwest,
and the Upper Lake States, it'sbeen rather I guess I could call it
moderate in terms of temperatures. Soyou know, we'll see what that does
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for the rest of the summer andas we get into the fall months.
But right now, you know,the south center US and at Central and
South Florida have really been under thegun for some of the heat This summer.
We're joined by Weather Channel meteorologist RayStage. What we have seen in
the northeast, in particular a lotof severe storms. What has been the
cause of that? Well, anda lot of times when people ask me
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that question, I say, well, you know, when we get in
a pattern, often the pattern continuesto repeat itself until something can break it
down. And really it's the samereason why we've had the heat just staying
in the same spot. There hasn'tbeen anything to move that dome of high
pressure, so there hasn't been anything, not average to really move the jet
stream and to keep those fronts fromcoming into the northeast. New England added
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moisture in and you know, we'vehad some pretty catastrophic flood events coming out
of Vermont specifically, and even southeasternNew York State in Orange County, pretty
close to where I grew up,got hit pretty hard with some terrible rainfall.
And it looks like though that patternin the northeast New England has kind
of lessened just a bit, justas some of the heat is lessened in
the southern US. So some subtlechanges have been made over the past week
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or two weeks. But we'll seeif those changes become more dramatic for the
better or for the worse. Youmentioned the word dome, and that's another
term and it feels like kind ofa new term that we've heard a lot
about, this heat dome over acertain part of the US. What exactly
does that mean? Well, andthe heat dome is basically high pressure is
how high the atmosphere is actually stackedup. Not getting into the science,
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it basically means that that warm airsrising higher than or it's higher up in
the atmosphere. Then you know,we could say that it normally is and
then it really hasn't moved much.So when you've got all that warm air,
all that warm air a loft,that's why it's been hot and dry,
because warm air a loft does notallow for thunderstorms to form. All
the thunderstorms now have been kind ofon the edges of where the dome of
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high pressure has been, so itkind of builds up from the edge and
then into the centers where the warmestareas and the highest up in the atmosphere
that warm area. So that's kindof like why we call it a dome.
And you know, finally when webreak that down that's when you know
we'd see some of this ico way, which I mentioned some of it has,
but still a widespread heat advisories acrossparts of the south central and even
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parts of the southeast. Another thingthat I'm sure many people have heard about
this al nino that we're experiencing.Just for a refresher, what exactly is
an al nino? Yeah, well, and el Nino is actually a warming
and above average sea surface temperatures inthe Pacific. Alt nino would be the
opposite of cooling, and you wouldthink that, you know, well,
how does that affect the global weatherpatterns? Well, believe it or not,
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everybody knows how vast the oceans are, and you know, when you
get these warmings or these coolings ofthe Pacific water, it actually affects the
pattern and jet stream patterns all crossthe globe. So that's why it's something
that we talk about quite a bit. And going into now what looks to
be the heart of hurricane season withan alnino, we'll see. We just
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certainly know that temperatures above average inthe Atlantic, but out in the Pacific
we do have above average temperatures too, which is what is typical of an
Alnino summer, and then the watertemperatures that we've seen. I believe there
was a part of southern Florida thatalmost or maybe it did reach one hundred
degree water temperatures. That's basically becauseyou have this hot air that's just been
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sitting over that region for so long. Yes, where that was measured that
one oh one was actually in ashallow body of water and with a dark
bottom on it too, so itdid help accelerate that temperature a little bit
more. But still it doesn't matterbecause there's still temperatures that are well but
average even in the mid nineties.They're regardless of whether that was an anomaly
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or not, it was confirmed thatthat's what the reading was, just over
one hundred degrees. What have weseen in terms of drought conditions across the
country, and also we hear alot about wildfires out west with this kind
of heat. Is that more ofa risk or have we not seen that
unfold like maybe we would have thought, Well, we did do a pretty
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good job on the drought in thewest over the wintertime. That hasn't translated
into the summer months so far.The wildfire seasons off to a slower start,
but as we know that all thewildfires have been up in Canada where
they do have higher drought conditions thanwe do here in the US. So
the short as is we've done betterthrough the winter now into the early part
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of the summer starting to get alittle abnormally dry, and that trend seems
to be continuing with a lack ofany significant monsoon in the southwestern US.
And then final question for you notto skip too far ahead, but what
does all of this this record heatthat we've been dealing with, what does
it mean for fall and winter?Are we expecting you still warm temperatures well
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into fall in certain parts of theUS and potentially winter or could things change
well traditionally in Elninio winter would bein that for most of the US.
But again, when we talk aboutwarmer temperatures, it's going to be above
average, I mean, is itgoing to be one degree above average or
five degrees? I mean, that'sgoing to mean all the difference, especially
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when we talk about East coast snowstorms. I mean, that's what everybody gets
concerned about in the winter time forthe most part. You know, if
it's supposed to be thirty degrees andit's thirty one. It's still going to
so I think it'll all play outwhether or not it's going to be a
typical El Nino or something a typical, which is what we're seeing so far
this year. Weather Channel meteorologists RayStagic with a breakdown of what we've been
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experiencing across the country with this summerheat and what to expect moving forward.
Ray really appreciate the time, Thanksso much, No problem. All right,
I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeart RadioCommunities, and I want to bring
in our final guest. We're joinedby doctor Gene Tweiney, author of Generations,
the Real Differences between Gen Z Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and
Silence. Doctor Tweiney, thank youso much for taking a few minutes to
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come on the show. And let'sstart with the basics here. What exactly
do those different generational labels represent.Yeah, so I start with the Silent
generation, those born nineteen twenty fiveto nineteen forty five. Then we have
the Boomers nineteen forty six to nineteensixty four, Generation X nineteen sixty five
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nineteen seventy nine, Millennials nineteen eightyto nineteen ninety four and Generation Z nineteen
ninety five to twenty twelve. Andso out of these generations, which ones
are the largest in terms of population, So the Boomers that's where they get
their name because there are so manybabies born during that period, although Millennials
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are also a very big generation andare taking over in terms of population size.
So when you look at these differentgenerations and how they seem to interact
with each other these days, wheredo we find the biggest divides? You
know, in terms of politics andin terms of a lot of issues around
free speech and cancel culture. There'sa pretty pronounced break between Gen xers and
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boomers on one side, and millennialsand Gen Z on the other. So
a lot of things that we've heardabout over the last five to seven years,
where managers are editors and these paperswant to have more issues discussed,
it's often the younger millennial employees tosay, no, you know, we
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don't want that speaker to come tocampus, or we don't want that outset
to be published. Any idea whatcould be driving that those differences, especially
between those four generations Gen Z,Millennials, gen X and boomers. What
is the conflict here. What's thedriver behind what we're seeing in terms of
these differences. Well, the traditionaltheory of generations just about experiencing major events,
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things like wars or pandemics. Butif you really think about what has
the biggest impact on day to daylife and the long term, it's technical
knowledging. That's what is really differentabout living now versus living fifty years ago
or twenty years ago. So that'sreally had the biggest impact on the values
in life course of these generations,and it also gives them their different person
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expect is because Millennials grew up withthe Internet and Gen X didn't. Just
from a technological standpoint, when youtake a look at the difference between Boomers
and Gen Z for example, oreven millennials, look the internets and social
media that really came into existence.I'm a millennial during my lifetime. Gen
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Z they're born right into it,and Gen X and Boomers they've been adjusting
to all of it. So howhave we seen in the past generations work
to try to understand each other duringthose kinds of major changes. Yeah,
that was really my goal in thisbook was understanding to help people understand their
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own generation and the generations that theyare working with are in their family.
And there's so many myths and rumorsabout generations that I really wanted to go
to the stores and try to findthe real differences, mostly through these big
national surveys that have asked people allkinds of questions, because then we're not
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guessing, we're really seeing how thegenerations differ from each other. We're joined
now by doctor Jean Tweeney, authorof Generations the Real Differences between gen Z,
Millennials, gen X, Boomers,and Silence. We hear a lot
about Boomers, millennials and gen Z. Does gen X sometimes get lost in
the mix? They do? Sogen X is the middle child of generations,
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you know, parsons. They're mediatingbetween two bigger generations on either side
of them, the boomers and themillennials. And also they're like a middle
child, and that they often getforgotten. But I think a lot of
gen xers like that. Gen xermyself and a lot of my friends will
say, no, we like that. We're going to fly under the radar.
The two youngest generations, gen Zand millennials, so you would think
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would understand each other best because they'recloser in age range. How do they
get along and how similarly do theyview the war old. Yeah, so
that's the shift a lot of peopleare having to make of. You know,
didn't seem that long ago when itwas the money. Also were the
young adults, but now that's genZ and those are two generations that are
pretty different. So Millennials, especiallywhen they were young, very optimistic,
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self confident, and gen Z isnot. They are not as self confident,
many many more are depressed and anxious. They are you know, taking
some of that dissatisfaction and pessimism andin voting more. But the mental health
peace and that shift from optimism topessimism makes those those generations pretty different.
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A narrative that we hear a lotabout millennials and gen Z that they're lazy,
they're spoiled, they're entitled. Isthat something you dive into in this
book and take a look at.Well, you know, there's a little
bit of truth to that in that, especially for millennials, they really topped
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out on a lot of these measuresaround say, you know, thinking that
you're special and having high self esteemand self confidence that start a fall part
with gen Z. So it doesn'tfit Gen Z as much. And then
you look at work attitudes, itdoes show up that started with Gen X
and then grew with millennials of morework life balance. So I think it's
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a matter of perspective because a lotof Silent generation and boomers would say,
no, you know, it's workethic, it's work, work, work,
But then younger generations say, okay, but you know, is that
really well how we want to spendour lives and maybe we should also try
to have more balance. We're joinedby doctor Gene Twingey, author of Generations
The Real differences between Gen Z,Millennials, gen X, Boomers and silence,
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respect respect for boomers from our youngergenerations, respect for Gen Z and
millennials from those in the boomer generation, the silent generation. Do you find
that something that is lacking? Yeah, I think we have a really big
issue these days with generational conflict,and it's heightened by a lot of the
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negativity on social media and online,a lot of finger pointing and blaming.
It's it's really counterproductive. I alsothink it's inaccurate because as you look at
cultural change, that's what shapes generations, and it's affecting all of us.
You know, we're all living withthe changes wrought by technology, and probably
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you know, those conflicts are alittle misguided too, because not all changes
negative. There are some great thingsabout living right now, you know,
certainly playing it downsides, but toargue in terms of the conveniences that we
live with, that we're living atthe greatest time in history because of the
technological advances that we've seen. Doyou think it's more difficult for generations like
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from Boomers to Gen Z to understandand each other compared to previous generations and
those gaps. Yeah, I dothink so, And I think I think
it's it's partially because generations get theirinformation from different sources these days. You
know, it used to be wehad three channels and one evening newscast on
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each channel and that was it,right, you know, and then we
got cable and then the Internet andthen social media, and now now you
know, we have to try tojust agree on facts. Now. I
do want to note your book alsotakes a look at some ways these different
generations can bringe those gaps, cancome to understand each other better. Tell
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us about that. Yeah, Ithink I think that really is the key
of trying to understand somebody else's perspective. Hard to do, but really really
powerful. And there's always been adesire among older generations to understand the younger
generation and oh, you know theyoung ones coming up, like what are
they like? Was shaped them?But it has to go both ways.
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If there's a tendency for younger generationsto say, oh, you know,
you're older, you don't know anything, you don't know what it's like to
be young now. But a lotof wisdom in older generations, a lot
of good perspectives there too, sounderstanding in both directions. Doctor Jean Tweiney,
author of Generations, The Real Differencesbetween Gen Z Millennials, gen X
Boomers, and Silence. Doctor Tweiney, thank you so much for taking a
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few minutes to come on the show. Really appreciate it. Thank you for
having me. All Right, that'sgoing to do it for this edition of
iHeartRadio Communities. I want to thankall of our guests and of course all
of you for listening. I'm yourhost, Ryan Gorman. We'll talk to
you again real soon.
Welcome to iHeartRadio Communities, a publicaffairs special focusing on the biggest issues impacting
you. This week, here's RyanGorman. Thanks so much for joining us
here on iHeartRadio Communities. I'm RyanGorman, and we have some important conversations
lined up for you. In abit, we'll check in with Weather Channel
meteorologists Race Stagick to get a betterunderstanding of why so much of the country
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has experienced record heat this summer andwhat's in store for us for the remainder
of twenty twenty three. Also,i'll talk to doctor Jean Tweeny, author
of Generations, the Real Differences betweenGen Z Millennials, gen X Boomers,
and Silence, to get a senseof some of the generational divides our country
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is currently facing. But right now, to get things started, I'm joined
by former combat veteran and artillery gunnerKelsey Sharon, author of the new book
Brass and Unity, One woman's journeythrough the hell of Afghanistan and back.
Kelsey, thank you so much fora ticket a few minutes to come on
the show, and of course thankyou for your service as well. Now
let's go back to the beginning ofyour story as an eighteen year old,
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What was it that led you towant to serve? Well, thanks for
having me I start to be here. I joined the army when I was
eighteen years old, fresh out ofcollege. I didn't like college, it
wasn't for me, and somebody influencedme. I had this amazing female that
I met a stranger, and sheleft a mark on me. I didn't
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come from a military background. Iknew that the wars were going on,
and I just felt a call togo serve my country. So you end
up in Afghanistan? What was thatlike? The moment you step foot on
Afghan soil and you see this countrythat you probably never thought much about before
all of this, barely even knewit existed. Let's be honest with ourselves.
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Did any of us really right?No much about it before we went.
You know, for me, itwas hot. It was like walking
into a blow dryer. That wasthe first shock to the system. I
knew we were going. I wasvery aware of it, but ultimately I
just wanted to go serve my country. I wanted the women of Afghanistan to
have the same education and freedoms andthat we had. And let's be honest,
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I had a very naive idea if, if anything, that that would
be achievable. But I knew thatI was willing to risk it and go
and do my best to help thesepeople. I gotta say, I was
riding your bio and you're tough.I mean, you were a competitive taekwondo
champion, you have a second degreeblack belt. But you're out there doing
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house to house insurgent patrol. Whatwas going through your mind as you're in
this foreign land doing such a dangerousjob as something like that, you know
that was not a job I wasprepared to go and do. I'm I'm
a trained artillery gunner. I runthe m for the seven to one five
five millimeter how it served that shootsup to forty kilometers with one hundred pound
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rounds. I was not trained togo do door to door, but like
every like every soldier at the beginning, a rifleman first. So I was
borrowed by the British to go betheir female CFP culture support team. And
my job was once we kick thosedoors in, was to go find the
women and children, put them ina separate room. And due to the
religious laws, I'm a female,so I was able to remove their burk
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as properly, to be able tosearch them efficiently. And what about the
fact that you were in that roleserving with all men. What kind of
challenge was that. Like, youknow, I'm gonna say something that might
sound at a little weird, butyou know, for me, I was
very lucky. I was one ofthe few women that I got lucky with
those guys. I've always worked withmen, That's always been part of my
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life. I know how to holdmy own the best to the best of
my ability, and I always knewas long as you showed up, did
your job and you did it well, the respect will come. So I
did. I actually had a goodexperience. I was very fortunate that the
British welcomes me in with open arms. The Americans for great to me,
most of the Canadians as well.I do have obviously very different perspective and
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a lot of people. I knowthat there has been a lot of issues
with women in the militarians and assault. I was not one of those,
so I was fortunate enough to comeout of it without that issue. But
I will tell you, of course, you have to prove yourself a little
bit more. You got to goa little harder. You really got to
dig a little deeper. But Iwas ready for the challenge. I was
looking forward to the challenge, andI was ready to show up for the
men, the less and the rightof me. I'm joined by former combat
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veteran and artillery gunner Kelsey Sharon,author of the new book Brass and Unity,
One woman's journey through the Hell ofAfghanistan and back. You mentioned your
interactions with Afghani women when you weredoing these house to house insurgent patrols.
What do you remember what stands outto you about some of those interactions.
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You know, depending on where wewere, Oh, we learned really quickly
how in those rural areas, howthat country really works, and how those
women were being treated. And forme, that was the most heartbreaking part
about it was the women over there, We're not being treated like we treat
our women. They're seen as lessthen, they're seen as a property.
They're seen as the ownership their ownto buy somebody, if you will.
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And that was really heartbreaking because tome, that means that the next generation
of girls. You know, whenwe understand when you uplift girls and you
educate girls, you change the world. But when you stifle that, you
know these girls were never going tohave a future. And now with the
Akimplot the way it was, thosegirls are not going to have a future
anytime soon. And then of courseyou saw the worst of what humanity has
to offer. You saw death anddestruction, the killing of those who you
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were serving with, and you're veryopen and honest about all of that in
this book. Yeah, I'm notgonna lie. You know, war is
war is war, and it isgross, and it's grewsome and it is
what you would think it would be. And ultimately, when I was with
the British, we went through anoperation and we sustained loss. Like so
many other American and British and Canadiansoldiers, we were losing people and that
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had a mark less and mark lessan impact on me, which ultimately end
up having me diagnosed with pustraumatic stressdisorder and I was medically released from the
military in two eleven. Another thingI thought was interesting about your book Brass
and Unity, One Woman's Journey throughthe Hell of Afghanistan and Back, is
that it seemed like you were tryingto offer those who haven't served and haven't
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been in those situations a kind ofsenses to what that's like because the fact
of the matter is a very smallpercentage of Americans Canadians do that job.
You know, the best way Isay it is, you know, trauma
is your trauma, and everybody hasa cup inside of them and whether that
cuts the shot glass size or afull gulf, you know, things are
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going to affect you differently. We'reall different people going through a human experience.
But what I will say is ifyou read this book and you want
to understand how veterans or first respondersor anybody who has trauma other feeling what
they're going through. I did mybest to try to illustrate that so that
it could bridge a gap. I'malways about connecting. I'm always about building
community and unity. It's built intomy name for a reason, and I
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want the rest of the world tounderstand so they don't look at us as
broken. People who have PTFD andare violence were not with people that went
through trauma that just need a littleextra help and a little extra support.
And if you give that to us, we can thrive and be the people
that we deserve to be. Nowwithout giving away the book, here you
did find a way out of thatplace you were in a way to deal
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with that PTSD, and you didit in a very unique way. Tell
us about that. Yeah, absolutely, you know, I've been really fortunate
to have a good community and alot of support around me. But what
it came down to was my doctorsuggestion for art therapy. Art therapy is
a great tool at our disposal,and anybody can do it with anything.
You know, you can create anything. But it is such a great way
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to get outside of yourself. It'ssuch a great way to move yourself forwards.
But if you couple that with journaling, with eating healthy, with grounding,
with moving your body, you know, physical fitness. We understand it's
four times more effective than an antidepressant. So we've got to get up and
move. But we need a communitysometimes to help each other get moving.
And so this book illustrates different waysof healing, whether through you know,
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psychedelic asystem therapy, journaling, arttherapy, grounding, fitness, community.
We need all of these things tothrive, not just as veterans, but
as human beings as well. Andout of all of this you end up
creating this jewelry business that's doing anawful lot to help veterans. Tell us
about that. Yeah, absolutely,you know. I started this art therapy
led into this business that started intwo thousand and sixteen. You guys can
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find it all at brass Immunity dotcom. We donate twenty percent of the
net proceeds to veteran organizations all overthe world and try and uplift this community
and the people that are doing thehard work. They are the vehicle to
put the money in the hands ofthese organizations. And I'm telling you right
now, some of these bracelets theychange live. We have the Buddy Check
bracelets, which is suicide prevention tooland it comes in a pack of two
and it prompts you to have ahard conversation with someone you love and it
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starts the mental health conversation. Wesay, you buy a pass, you
call a buddy, and you savea life. Chelsea Sharon, author of
Brass and Unity, One Woman's Journeythrough the Hell of Afghanis Stand and back.
Kelsey, thank you so much foryour service and also for coming on
the show. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me
and illustrating and helping veterans and therest of the world understand what we go
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through to thank you absolutely. Thanksagain. I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio
Communities and I want to bring inour next guest. We're joined by Weather
Channel meteorologist Ray Stage. Ray,It's always great to talk to you,
and I wanted to have you onbecause the weather has been a big topic
of conversation this summer, with theseextreme temperatures that so much of the country
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has been experiencing. So what exactlydid we see in June and July when
it comes to record setting heat acrossthe US. Yeah, well, let's
start with that. I mean,let's go into July and talk about the
warmest month on record, and thatmay not only be for the US,
that could end up being globally andglobally one of the warmest, one of
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the warmest Julys on record is youknow, records going back one hundred and
twenty something years, basically giving youan idea of this heat isn't just shared
by US and most of all inthe south central and southwestern part of the
US, but also across the globe. Temperatures have been a little bit above
normal and in areas like Arizona,I mean, you had a stretch of
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a leave in July where pretty muchthe whole month there were certain parts that
were over one hundred degrees. Yeah, Phoenix, for example, their streak
of one hundred and ten plus endedand it ended at thirty one days in
a row of one hundred and tendegrees are hotter. Now the old record.
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Listen to this. This what makesthis more amazing is eighteen days in
a row. So they almost doubledthe streak of how many days of one
ten plus in a row that theyhad, and that was last done in
nineteen seventy four. They've had fiftyplus one hundred degree days so far this
summer, and it continues to bewarm in the Southwest under this big heat
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ridge. So the Four Corners basicallyArizona through New Mexico and even into Texas.
I mean, it's been days anddays of heat advisories and excessive heat
and warnings. And let's not forgetabout South Florida. Down in South Florida,
the first ever issued excessive heat warningfor Miami Dade County was issued in
the month of July. Now,the criteria a little different for the counties
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in South Florida. Between you know, Broward and Miami Dade, but you
know you're really splitting hairs. Andmultiple days and weeks of heat advisories in
South Florida where you think, well, it's hot and humid every day,
this just gives you an idea.This was at a different level. So
we've seen these temperatures in some partsof the country over a hundred degrees,
some over one hundred ten degrees,over one hundred twenty degrees. But then
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we also see something called the heatindex. What is that, Well,
let's give the analogy of let's compareit to what the winter time. The
opposite is, and that's wind chill. So the wind shows on your exposed
skin. When the wind blows,it actually is pulling heat away from your
skin, so it's not allowing yourbody to stay warm. Now, when
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we talk about the heat index,that factors in the temperature and then the
humidity, and what humidity is ismoisture and water vapor in the air.
And what that does is that itkind of sticks to your skin and it
doesn't allow your body to cool.So it gives you that sensation of well,
if the air tempers and one hundredand your DW point is high in
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the mid upper seventies, for example, there's a lot more water vapor in
the air, so that thickness ofthe air is just allowing that hot air
to stick closer to your body andnot allow your body to cool. And
that's why we get these uncomfortable temperatures. And it's not always about well the
air temperatures one hundred. You know, you put one hundred over DW point
of forty, like the dry heatwe talk about in the deserts of the
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Southwest, it doesn't feel as badif you put one hundred over a seventy
or seventy five degree due point,which is going to make it feel like
one ten or hotter. So that'swhy heat index is really the more important
number in the summertime. And likeyou mentioned before, we've also seen this
extreme heat overseas. Europe has hadsome record temperatures as well, right,
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Yeah, there's been record temperatures andas I'd mentioned, globally, we could
be talking about maybe one of thewarmest summers on a record too. So
you know, the heat's not justshared here. There's places on the other
side of the equator where it's supposedto be winter where there are some temperatures
two that are a little bit aboveaverage, so you know, it tries
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to balance itself out. But Idon't hear of too many places across the
world having anything extremely below normal.Although the northern tier of the US,
believe it or not, hasn't hada terrible summer. I mean they haven't,
right, yeah, yeah, Imean, let's take New York City.
I mean, officially, we haveto define a heat wave for New
York City, for example, threedays in a row of ninety degree temperatures.
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They haven't had that. Last weekthey got close. They had two
ninety degree days in a row.The third day was eighty nine. So
officially, New York City hasn't evenhad a heat wave, so to say
so to the northern tier of theNortheast, New England, the Midwest,
and the Upper Lake States, it'sbeen rather I guess I could call it
moderate in terms of temperatures. Soyou know, we'll see what that does
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for the rest of the summer andas we get into the fall months.
But right now, you know,the south center US and at Central and
South Florida have really been under thegun for some of the heat This summer.
We're joined by Weather Channel meteorologist RayStage. What we have seen in
the northeast, in particular a lotof severe storms. What has been the
cause of that? Well, anda lot of times when people ask me
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that question, I say, well, you know, when we get in
a pattern, often the pattern continuesto repeat itself until something can break it
down. And really it's the samereason why we've had the heat just staying
in the same spot. There hasn'tbeen anything to move that dome of high
pressure, so there hasn't been anything, not average to really move the jet
stream and to keep those fronts fromcoming into the northeast. New England added
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moisture in and you know, we'vehad some pretty catastrophic flood events coming out
of Vermont specifically, and even southeasternNew York State in Orange County, pretty
close to where I grew up,got hit pretty hard with some terrible rainfall.
And it looks like though that patternin the northeast New England has kind
of lessened just a bit, justas some of the heat is lessened in
the southern US. So some subtlechanges have been made over the past week
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or two weeks. But we'll seeif those changes become more dramatic for the
better or for the worse. Youmentioned the word dome, and that's another
term and it feels like kind ofa new term that we've heard a lot
about, this heat dome over acertain part of the US. What exactly
does that mean? Well, andthe heat dome is basically high pressure is
how high the atmosphere is actually stackedup. Not getting into the science,
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it basically means that that warm airsrising higher than or it's higher up in
the atmosphere. Then you know,we could say that it normally is and
then it really hasn't moved much.So when you've got all that warm air,
all that warm air a loft,that's why it's been hot and dry,
because warm air a loft does notallow for thunderstorms to form. All
the thunderstorms now have been kind ofon the edges of where the dome of
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high pressure has been, so itkind of builds up from the edge and
then into the centers where the warmestareas and the highest up in the atmosphere
that warm area. So that's kindof like why we call it a dome.
And you know, finally when webreak that down that's when you know
we'd see some of this ico way, which I mentioned some of it has,
but still a widespread heat advisories acrossparts of the south central and even
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parts of the southeast. Another thingthat I'm sure many people have heard about
this al nino that we're experiencing.Just for a refresher, what exactly is
an al nino? Yeah, well, and el Nino is actually a warming
and above average sea surface temperatures inthe Pacific. Alt nino would be the
opposite of cooling, and you wouldthink that, you know, well,
how does that affect the global weatherpatterns? Well, believe it or not,
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everybody knows how vast the oceans are, and you know, when you
get these warmings or these coolings ofthe Pacific water, it actually affects the
pattern and jet stream patterns all crossthe globe. So that's why it's something
that we talk about quite a bit. And going into now what looks to
be the heart of hurricane season withan alnino, we'll see. We just
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certainly know that temperatures above average inthe Atlantic, but out in the Pacific
we do have above average temperatures too, which is what is typical of an
Alnino summer, and then the watertemperatures that we've seen. I believe there
was a part of southern Florida thatalmost or maybe it did reach one hundred
degree water temperatures. That's basically becauseyou have this hot air that's just been
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sitting over that region for so long. Yes, where that was measured that
one oh one was actually in ashallow body of water and with a dark
bottom on it too, so itdid help accelerate that temperature a little bit
more. But still it doesn't matterbecause there's still temperatures that are well but
average even in the mid nineties.They're regardless of whether that was an anomaly
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or not, it was confirmed thatthat's what the reading was, just over
one hundred degrees. What have weseen in terms of drought conditions across the
country, and also we hear alot about wildfires out west with this kind
of heat. Is that more ofa risk or have we not seen that
unfold like maybe we would have thought, Well, we did do a pretty
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good job on the drought in thewest over the wintertime. That hasn't translated
into the summer months so far.The wildfire seasons off to a slower start,
but as we know that all thewildfires have been up in Canada where
they do have higher drought conditions thanwe do here in the US. So
the short as is we've done betterthrough the winter now into the early part
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of the summer starting to get alittle abnormally dry, and that trend seems
to be continuing with a lack ofany significant monsoon in the southwestern US.
And then final question for you notto skip too far ahead, but what
does all of this this record heatthat we've been dealing with, what does
it mean for fall and winter?Are we expecting you still warm temperatures well
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into fall in certain parts of theUS and potentially winter or could things change
well traditionally in Elninio winter would bein that for most of the US.
But again, when we talk aboutwarmer temperatures, it's going to be above
average, I mean, is itgoing to be one degree above average or
five degrees? I mean, that'sgoing to mean all the difference, especially
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when we talk about East coast snowstorms. I mean, that's what everybody gets
concerned about in the winter time forthe most part. You know, if
it's supposed to be thirty degrees andit's thirty one. It's still going to
so I think it'll all play outwhether or not it's going to be a
typical El Nino or something a typical, which is what we're seeing so far
this year. Weather Channel meteorologists RayStagic with a breakdown of what we've been
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experiencing across the country with this summerheat and what to expect moving forward.
Ray really appreciate the time, Thanksso much, No problem. All right,
I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeart RadioCommunities, and I want to bring
in our final guest. We're joinedby doctor Gene Tweiney, author of Generations,
the Real Differences between Gen Z Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and
Silence. Doctor Tweiney, thank youso much for taking a few minutes to
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come on the show. And let'sstart with the basics here. What exactly
do those different generational labels represent.Yeah, so I start with the Silent
generation, those born nineteen twenty fiveto nineteen forty five. Then we have
the Boomers nineteen forty six to nineteensixty four, Generation X nineteen sixty five
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nineteen seventy nine, Millennials nineteen eightyto nineteen ninety four and Generation Z nineteen
ninety five to twenty twelve. Andso out of these generations, which ones
are the largest in terms of population, So the Boomers that's where they get
their name because there are so manybabies born during that period, although Millennials
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are also a very big generation andare taking over in terms of population size.
So when you look at these differentgenerations and how they seem to interact
with each other these days, wheredo we find the biggest divides? You
know, in terms of politics andin terms of a lot of issues around
free speech and cancel culture. There'sa pretty pronounced break between Gen xers and
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boomers on one side, and millennialsand Gen Z on the other. So
a lot of things that we've heardabout over the last five to seven years,
where managers are editors and these paperswant to have more issues discussed,
it's often the younger millennial employees tosay, no, you know, we
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don't want that speaker to come tocampus, or we don't want that outset
to be published. Any idea whatcould be driving that those differences, especially
between those four generations Gen Z,Millennials, gen X and boomers. What
is the conflict here. What's thedriver behind what we're seeing in terms of
these differences. Well, the traditionaltheory of generations just about experiencing major events,
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things like wars or pandemics. Butif you really think about what has
the biggest impact on day to daylife and the long term, it's technical
knowledging. That's what is really differentabout living now versus living fifty years ago
or twenty years ago. So that'sreally had the biggest impact on the values
in life course of these generations,and it also gives them their different person
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expect is because Millennials grew up withthe Internet and Gen X didn't. Just
from a technological standpoint, when youtake a look at the difference between Boomers
and Gen Z for example, oreven millennials, look the internets and social
media that really came into existence.I'm a millennial during my lifetime. Gen
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Z they're born right into it,and Gen X and Boomers they've been adjusting
to all of it. So howhave we seen in the past generations work
to try to understand each other duringthose kinds of major changes. Yeah,
that was really my goal in thisbook was understanding to help people understand their
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own generation and the generations that theyare working with are in their family.
And there's so many myths and rumorsabout generations that I really wanted to go
to the stores and try to findthe real differences, mostly through these big
national surveys that have asked people allkinds of questions, because then we're not
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guessing, we're really seeing how thegenerations differ from each other. We're joined
now by doctor Jean Tweeney, authorof Generations the Real Differences between gen Z,
Millennials, gen X, Boomers,and Silence. We hear a lot
about Boomers, millennials and gen Z. Does gen X sometimes get lost in
the mix? They do? Sogen X is the middle child of generations,
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you know, parsons. They're mediatingbetween two bigger generations on either side
of them, the boomers and themillennials. And also they're like a middle
child, and that they often getforgotten. But I think a lot of
gen xers like that. Gen xermyself and a lot of my friends will
say, no, we like that. We're going to fly under the radar.
The two youngest generations, gen Zand millennials, so you would think
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would understand each other best because they'recloser in age range. How do they
get along and how similarly do theyview the war old. Yeah, so
that's the shift a lot of peopleare having to make of. You know,
didn't seem that long ago when itwas the money. Also were the
young adults, but now that's genZ and those are two generations that are
pretty different. So Millennials, especiallywhen they were young, very optimistic,
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self confident, and gen Z isnot. They are not as self confident,
many many more are depressed and anxious. They are you know, taking
some of that dissatisfaction and pessimism andin voting more. But the mental health
peace and that shift from optimism topessimism makes those those generations pretty different.
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A narrative that we hear a lotabout millennials and gen Z that they're lazy,
they're spoiled, they're entitled. Isthat something you dive into in this
book and take a look at.Well, you know, there's a little
bit of truth to that in that, especially for millennials, they really topped
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out on a lot of these measuresaround say, you know, thinking that
you're special and having high self esteemand self confidence that start a fall part
with gen Z. So it doesn'tfit Gen Z as much. And then
you look at work attitudes, itdoes show up that started with Gen X
and then grew with millennials of morework life balance. So I think it's
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a matter of perspective because a lotof Silent generation and boomers would say,
no, you know, it's workethic, it's work, work, work,
But then younger generations say, okay, but you know, is that
really well how we want to spendour lives and maybe we should also try
to have more balance. We're joinedby doctor Gene Twingey, author of Generations
The Real differences between Gen Z,Millennials, gen X, Boomers and silence,
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respect respect for boomers from our youngergenerations, respect for Gen Z and
millennials from those in the boomer generation, the silent generation. Do you find
that something that is lacking? Yeah, I think we have a really big
issue these days with generational conflict,and it's heightened by a lot of the
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negativity on social media and online,a lot of finger pointing and blaming.
It's it's really counterproductive. I alsothink it's inaccurate because as you look at
cultural change, that's what shapes generations, and it's affecting all of us.
You know, we're all living withthe changes wrought by technology, and probably
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you know, those conflicts are alittle misguided too, because not all changes
negative. There are some great thingsabout living right now, you know,
certainly playing it downsides, but toargue in terms of the conveniences that we
live with, that we're living atthe greatest time in history because of the
technological advances that we've seen. Doyou think it's more difficult for generations like
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from Boomers to Gen Z to understandand each other compared to previous generations and
those gaps. Yeah, I dothink so, And I think I think
it's it's partially because generations get theirinformation from different sources these days. You
know, it used to be wehad three channels and one evening newscast on
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each channel and that was it,right, you know, and then we
got cable and then the Internet andthen social media, and now now you
know, we have to try tojust agree on facts. Now. I
do want to note your book alsotakes a look at some ways these different
generations can bringe those gaps, cancome to understand each other better. Tell
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us about that. Yeah, Ithink I think that really is the key
of trying to understand somebody else's perspective. Hard to do, but really really
powerful. And there's always been adesire among older generations to understand the younger
generation and oh, you know theyoung ones coming up, like what are
they like? Was shaped them?But it has to go both ways.
(29:07):
If there's a tendency for younger generationsto say, oh, you know,
you're older, you don't know anything, you don't know what it's like to
be young now. But a lotof wisdom in older generations, a lot
of good perspectives there too, sounderstanding in both directions. Doctor Jean Tweiney,
author of Generations, The Real Differencesbetween Gen Z Millennials, gen X
Boomers, and Silence. Doctor Tweiney, thank you so much for taking a
(29:29):
few minutes to come on the show. Really appreciate it. Thank you for
having me. All Right, that'sgoing to do it for this edition of
iHeartRadio Communities. I want to thankall of our guests and of course all
of you for listening. I'm yourhost, Ryan Gorman. We'll talk to
you again real soon.
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