August 12, 2023 • 29 mins
Ryan Gorman hosts an iHeartRadio nationwide special featuring Bryan Stern, Founder & CEO of Project Dynamo, a veteran-led, donor-funded, international search, rescue, aid, and assistance 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Bryan Stern discusses his organization’s work rescuing Americans and our allies from countries where the U.S. government is no longer operating, such as Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Russia, along with their previous rescue work in disaster areas like Southwest Florida following Hurricane Ian.
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Welcome to iHeartRadio Communities, a publicaffairs special focusing on the biggest issues impacting
you. This week, here's RyanGorman. Thanks for joining us cre on
iHeartRadio Communities. I'm Ryan Gorman,and we have a very important conversation lined
up for you for this show.I'm joined right now by Brian Stern,
founder and CEO of Project Dynamo,a veteran, led donor funded international search,
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rescue, aid and assistance nonprofit organization. You can learn more about all
their work and support their work atProject Dynamo dot org. Brian, thank
you so much for taking a fewminutes to come on the show and let
me start with your personal background andwhat led you into this line of work.
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Well, yeah, thanks for havingme. I started off life in
the army, and somehow in themiddle of all that one in the Navy.
The bulk of my career I camein into the late nineties and the
Bill Clinton, so I've been arounda long, long, long time standards
of the dinosaur. I started offlife as as an infantry guy, carrying
a rifle, doing regular army stuff. But it was pre nine eleven.
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There wasn't a luck going on.I got recruited into Army intelligence, and
I've been in the intelligence community prettymuch ever since. That's taken me all
over the world doing all kinds ofweird things. And my career is basically
either has been predominantly in either thenational level intelligence community, different agencies and
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programs and different kinds of things likethat, or in the darker side of
special operations. So when you thinkabout special operations, guys, you think
about, you know, bearded dudeswith sleeve tattoos and machine guns and all
that stuff. That's the easy stuffthat we do. The real hard stuff
is in places where you can't bringin helicopters and machine guns and that kind
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of thing, and that's really wheremy specialty has always been. I've worked.
I've worked in every continent. Actuallythat's a true I've never worked in
Australia. I always wanted to go. But I've worked all over Africa,
all over Latin America, all overEurope, and of course the Middle East.
I've been Afghanistan enough times before Ithink I qualified for citizenship. So
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again, even when we talk aboutthings like Afghanistan, during my time in
Afghanistan, most of my targets werenot in Afghanistan. Most of my targets
were to the east and to theWest, or Chinese issues or Russian issues,
and I'll kind of senior leadership too, but guys like we don't really
focus on the Taliban because they're nota high enough level frankly from a strategic
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impact perspective. So most of mycareers been based in those kinds of weird
and really hard target, hard problemsets. I was the first responder in
the morning in nine eleven. Isurvived all collapses. I was. I
was in New York while in theArmy, so I was of both collapses.
I'm a two time loser. Thatis what we call it. And
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again, you know, as itrelates to Diamo, people forget that on
the morning in nine to eleven andthe original first responders, many of them
were just civilians. They were justpeople on the way to work dealing with
a very terrible situation and catastrophic eventsand they fell compelled to help. And
that leads to Diabo. Dynamo isan international We're an international rescue organization.
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I'm not an assassin, I'm notany terrible thing. We're very simple.
We're a rescue team that goes inwhere the US government isn't the best way
to think about US. So ifthey leave, like in Afghanistan, we
show up, which is kind ofhow we started. If they're never gonna
come, like in Ukraine, We'renever going to send a seal team into
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Ukraine to rescue an American. We'renot going to do that, or until
they show up, like they're inHurricane Ian in Florida. We were in
the water in the first few hourson day one. Once the coast Guard
and everyone showed up, then wepeel out. We're first in, first
out in that context, and thenin places like in Russia where the diplomatic
relationship is so poor. Yes wehave an embassy, and yes we have
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it's not a war zone, butthat presence is so bad and the relationship
is so bad things that need tohappen. That's also where we step in,
and we're the first organization to everdo that on Russian soil and history.
I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio Communities, joined by Brian Stern, founder
and CEO of Project Dynamo. Youcan learn more at Project Dynamo dot org.
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So let's talk about the creation ofthis project and you mentioned it was
tied to the situation in Afghanistan.How did this all come about? Well,
well, if we go back toAugust twenty twenty one, the u
US withdrawal of Afghanistan, it's nota political thing. But bottom line is
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it clearly wasn't going well right.That's not a Republican thing. That's on
the democrat thing. It's the factlife. I was watching on TV and
a lot, like many of us, were trying to and as an Afghan
invent trying to understand what do Ido. I spent a lot of time
there. I buried a lot offriends there, American I lost American friends
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there and Afghan friends there. Forwhat I do. I'm on the streets
with the Afghans. My last timegetting shot at in Afghanistan, it was
actually the Canadians and brit shooting atme. I'm thinking that I was a
bad guy. So when I tellyou that we're invented with these folks who
live and die with us and takeit very personally. So I was watching
it on TV and uh and literallyI was trying to figure out what to
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do. And I was very upset, very emotional thing. And people are
calling and saying help me, helpme, help me people who I knew,
and I was out of government.I don't do this anymore. I
was in business. I was livingmy next chapter in my life and having
a good time. Frankly, andas there was this moment where I was
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literally working on my keynote speech forthe twentieth anniversary of September eleventh, which
was just a few weeks later.This is August twenty twenty one, mid
August. We're just a few weeksaway. So I was working on my
keynote and I'm watching TV and Isee the C seventeen the airplane take off,
and I'm watching Afghans fall from thelanding gear. Remember the last time.
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The last time I saw that wason the morning of nine eleven,
and it struck a chord, AndI said to myself, how is it
possible? Literally, as I'm workingon my speech as a first respondent for
nine to eleven, where twenty yearslater, almost to the day, this
whole thing is screwed up. TheTaliban are back in charge. How did
that happen? And there are innocentpeople jumping to their desks. Is a
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better idea of staying where they're atcaused by the same people. This is
wrong. I've done a lot ofthis kind of work. I've done a
lot of hot to rescue of mycareer. I always work in strange places.
I'm used to dynamic environments. Sothere's no help. So I called
some friends of mine. I said, this is what we're gonna do.
We're gonna get the band back together. We're gonna do one last last We're
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gonna pack our Lots of different veterangroups were kind of coming to life trying
to help, but we were theones that went forward. That was always
different about Dynamo, which we packedour stuff. We flew into Uzbekistan,
which is how we evaded the countryto O one. We went all the
way to the southern border, starteddoing cross border operations. As that happened,
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Secretary of State Lincoln and Secrety DefenseAusten got on TV and they said
August thirtieth is the last day forAmericans in Afghanistan. At that moment,
I knew that the prior to youknow, between now and then, we
have plenty of work to do.But the reality is the air forces they're
flying people out. The real workwill begin on September one. That's when
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this party first starts. Clearly it'snot going well. Clearly people will be
left behind. Clearly there's going tobe people that need help. What do
we do September one? Once themilitary is gone, that's when the real
talent is going to be neat andthat's where guys like me to really specialize
where there is no help, wherethere is no at help. The problem
with this is is that we wereset up to rescue our Afghanalys, the
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men and women who fought with us, the human rights activists, that judges,
the commandos, intelligence officers. Itnever occurred to me that we'd be
rescuing Americans left behind. That's whatwe didn't plan for. And I will
tell you two years later, almostliterally two years later, in August twenty
twenty three, you would not believeit, but I am still pulling Americans
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out of that gift still two that'sa long time to be in hiding.
That's a long time. That's howwe started. I'm Ryan Gorman here on
iHeart Radio Communities, joined by BrianStern, founder and CEO of Project Dynamo.
You can learn more about all theirwork and support their work they're doing
at Project Dynamo dot org. Soand you can explain this in a very
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general census to not give you toomuch way, but how does this work?
You get what a tip or youhear directly from somebody, let's say
in Afghanistan they can't get out,they need assistance, and then where do
you go? How do you navigatethat from there? Yeah, it's uh,
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it's complicated. It's just a youknow, a semeister's law class at
the War College and how did youdiscristionary warfare? But what we do is
number one, we don't break thelaw. Ever, I have not in
all the countries that we've worked inby now, you know, I understanding
the fact that Afghanistan is one countryof many that we've now could call up
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the servant from Ukraine to Russia,to Sudan, to Haiti, to preparing
for Taiwan, to other places thatare on other places where there's no USMB
the c president. We do.It's not like TV where when you see
that, you know Liam Nisan ina taken moment, he's doing donuts in
this car, spinning around. WhenI'm on the street, I drive the
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speed limits right, I wear myseatbelt, I used my blinkers. I
never want to give anyone an excuseto get mad at me because I can't
afford to come under scrutiny. Numberone, that's a great way to get
your head chopped off or arrested ortortured or whatever. But more importantly,
if I get rolled, what's nothappening is the operation, and that's why
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we're there in the first place.That's the point. There's no one else
coming for these people, but dynamowe've got. We've rescued over six thousand
people from twenty nine different nationalities.We've broken American We've broken Americans out of
jail to Russian intelligence. And thenpeople will say, well, you know
I have a broken watch and it'sright twice a day. Well, we've
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done it multiple times. Never theCIA hasn't done there, So how do
we do that? It's a lotof magic. Right, How did David
Copperfield make the statue of liberty disappearin front of three thousand people? Probably
he didn't actually make the section?Probably not right, Probably not, I
don't know. I wasn't there.Maybe he did, but what I hear
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it's still there. But there arethree thousand people that those that don't pass
a polygraph and testify under oath thatthey totally saw it disappear in front of
their very eyes. They were thereand it happened and whatever. Look,
that's very much until we do alot of these things where it's a lot
of subtexts, it's a lot ofpretext, it's a lot of wazzle dazzle,
it's sometimes slight of hand. Butwhat it's never is breaking the law
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because where we work there is nohelp. That's me And I want to
follow up on that point. Whenyou're in a country like Afghanistan, you
are on your own on these rescuemissions. So, like you were saying
before, it's not like what wewould see in the movie because you don't
want shots to be fired because thenit's all eyes on you and what you're
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doing, and that's probably not gonnaend with and be a great example.
People always ask people what kind ofguns do you carry when they're overseas,
and most people are surprised to findout that I work on armed right,
which is kind of strange. Right, when you think about these things in
your head, you think about facemasks, Yeah, you know, right,
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that's like a mental visual right inthe day, you know, yeah,
like those kinds of character. Right, it's not that at all.
I'm I'm completely out of shape.I eat like crap, Gray, my
body, my knees is sort uh, you know, I don't really run
at all. It's not that kindof thing. It's not And if you
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think about it, and they'll giveme a good example. We broke a
kid out of jail from the placecalled Hersan in Ukraine, in southern Ukraine,
which is occupied by Russia. Hewas a raised an American from Detroit.
He was arrested by the FSB,which is like the Russian FBI.
Pretty terrible people. There are dozensof them, are sanctioned, hundreds of
them are dieting from war crimes.Is a very terrible people, right.
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You don't want to wind up intheir care. He is a twenty nine
year old American for Michigan, who'sthe first American victim of war crimes.
Right. He was tortured. Hewas beaten every day, mock executions everything.
I mean, you know John McCainlevel torture, beating up, broke
his back to him and his wifewas brutalized all kinds of stuff. A
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very terrible situation. Right, ifI would have gotten into a gunfight,
if I would have gone in hardthe way you would imagine we broke him
out of jail, if you wouldimagine that I broke if I did it
that way, from where he wasto the closest thing that looks like a
friend is twenty one hours away bycar, and you can't fly in Ukraine,
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which means I would need a dumptruck of apple behind to survive that
gunfight. Right, I would literallyneed a semi truck to fight half the
Russian army. What do one hoursin a running double fight? And they
have helicopters and the airplanes that werenot going to work. So we got
to do it in a different way. We have to do it in a
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different way. And for perspectives,were the ones that told the bad guys
that we got him, they wentto go check on him. They didn't
even know that we had Wow.Okay, that was also cool about dynamo.
Right. What's also cool is inmy government life, we can never
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show anybody any of these things.I didn't invent any of these tactics nothing.
If I had an original thought,it would die alonely. I was
trained to talk by the best rightin my old life. We can never
tell anybody about these kinds of things, Dynatamo. We're private. We record
everything, so when I talk todonors, you need to hear these stories.
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I say, don't take my wordfor it. Watch this video and
you could see the Russian sent ahit man to kill me right after this
operation. We at him on witha GoPro on a roof of our van.
We got that on video, foundhim on Facebook, sent the video
to this guy's mother in Russia afterthe Ukrainians killed it. Oh my god.
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Now that you know that brings meto another question. Are you were
as you're you're telling these stories andthis is on the radio, so we're
good here, but you know yourface is out there you're telling these stories.
Are you concerned that it could makethe missions more difficult moving forward?
It does a little bit. We'vehad We've had my team and I have
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had some really post calls. We'vebeen blown up, we've been shot at
all kinds of things. But atthe same time, Number One, we
do media because we're donor funded andwe need help. And you know,
you can't be a famous smuggler,which is why I'm not a smuggler.
But I need the public to goto Project Dynamo dot org and click the
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little donate button because these these airplanesdon't pay for themselves. I can't get
Russians to commit espionage because I'm areally nice guy. It doesn't work that
way. Uh. You know,these things cost money, you know,
So that's why we do media.If we had some big monster, you
know, if the if the CEOof American Airlines and he's listening and he
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gives us an adoptment for twenty milliondollars, I promise will never be on
TV ever A yet I hate youknow, but we don't. We don't
have that benefit right now, andour demand signals to the roofs. So
we got to do the media.Isn't a risk, absolutely, But at
the same time, and a lotof people have a hard time understanding this
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fight, especially in the Russia.In the in the context of Russia,
half the war is kindetic. Theother half is about messaging. As an
American, it is a good daywhen I can say, not only did
I kick your butt, but Iput it on Facebook. Yeah. You
needs don't even know how I getit. Yeah, No, I get
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that right, right, there's athere's a benefit there, but there's another
way of fighting, you know.I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio Communities with
Brian Stern, founder and CEO ofProject Dynamo, of veteran led donor funded
international search, rescue, aid andassistance nonprofit organization. You can learn more
and support the work that we're talkingabout, and you just heard it from
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Brian. They need your support.Project Dynamo dot org is the website Project
Dynamo dot org. So you geta call or a message someone needs rescuing
in Afghanistan or Ukraine or all theseother different places that you operate, how
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long does the planning for that operationtake? So these operations we've done five
We were rescued over six thousand people. Yeah, in twenty three and a
half months, almost twenty four months. We're about to have our two year
birthday. Some of those we've doneone hundreds at a time. Right,
we flew into Afghanistan. We gotthe first landing clearance from the Taliban after
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the Taliban took control. Who knewthat was a thing. We landed an
Airbus eight three twenty in cobble norunaway lights with legitimate landing clearance. Wow,
Okay, it took one hundred andseventeen Americans that out in one shot.
So some of some of these operationsare big numbers. And then there
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are things that the jail breaks thatare one that are onesies. So it
depends. Each of these things havea life cycle. Just like children,
there's a we you know, wefind that we're pregnant, we deal with
the pregnancy, we give birth.There's an infancy thing in there which is
always a pain. There's a comingof age thing we wind up at our
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teenage years, which is more painful. That's what everything goes wrong. And
then at some point you know,it's on its own and then it's done.
So each of these things are there'sno recipe, there's nothing cookie cutter
about it. If I had toland a plane in Afghanistan today, that's
fundamentally different than how I did ittwo years ago. So it really depends.
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But I'll give you a great example. We did it. We did
this case called Pathfinder inside Russia.Okay, we got really big into the
into surrogate baby. So what thatis is, you know, you're an
American man and I'm an American woman. We're trying to have kids. We
can't. We try IVF, roundsof IBF doesn't work. We try donors
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and stuff that doesn't work. There'sthis thing called surrogate pregnancy, which I
didn't know anything about until I gotbombed. In this thing where they take
you know, my egg, you'rea sperm, they stick it together,
they make an embryo, and theystick it inside of a Ukrainian woman.
Okay, and she's the baby ofit. Genetically, that baby is American.
The problem is is that that Ukrainianwoman is stuck in this thing called
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a war zone, which is verycomplicated and generally speaking, the women that
do this are from the lower endof the socioeconomic spectrum. They're doing it
for money. It's a service thatthey provide. Nobody likes to be nobody
likes to be pregnant. Who wantsto be pregnant with someone else's kid for
that matter, right, So it'sa service for money. Those women tend
to come from the places that arenow occupied by Russian So imagine you and
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I are trying to have kids foryears and years and years and years and
years. Finally, we're pregnant,but jokes on us. The war starts.
Every country around Ukraine. Surrogacy isa felony, so you got to
give birth inside Ukraine. So that'sa problem. They can't leave right,
all these issues, well, wehad a case. We had a case
called Pathfinder where there was this kindof thing and the surrogate was in don
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Bess and couldn't get through the frontlines. And she's pregnant with twins from
Texas, from right outside Dalams.She's got a baby boy and a baby
girl from Texas. In her beltwas getting so terrible she fled south into
Russian occupied territory, into Crimea andthen up into Saint Petersburg, Russia,
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where surrogacy is surrogacy is illegal,and being a Ukrainian in Russia doesn't go
over too well. And it's notlike you can say, but don't worry,
I have two Americans and that doesn'tgo over well. Either doesn't work.
He gives birth to two kids onSeptember. The fifth baby Benjamin and
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baby it was Whip gives birth andthen disappears. So now you have two
American kids abandoned in Russia with Russianbirth certificates on it and a Ukrainians mother's
name on it. We's now gone. Those kids become wards of the state
as you would imagine, right,normal stuff, and they find themselves in
a Russian state run orphanage whole weekout from I mean, this is like
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an Apollo thirteen level, Like whatis good about this story? Yeah?
Right? The babies were pin inSeptember five. The US government, everyone
is trying and trying and trying.The parents go to Estonia, which is
the closest NATO country to Russia.It's on the border and the closest country
to Saint Petersburg, and they're tryingand trying, and they're their kids.
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These are mommies. You know,they've been trying to have kids for eight
years. Eight years. It musthave been topic of breakfast, lunch,
and dinner for every meal that they'veever had. Is let's be a family.
Let's be a family. Yeah.They get a hold of us in
November, right before Thanksgiving. Weplan for eleven days. We executed operations
on Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Thirteen hourslater the same day. They are a
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family in a NATO control country.That is unbelievable. I want to bring
it back home domestically, because youmentioned an operation that you did that's different
from these stories that we've been talkingabout up to this point. And again
I'm Ryan Gorman, joined by BrianStern, Founder and CEO of Project Dynamo.
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You can learn more and support allof this tremendous work at Project Dynamo
dot org. Tell us about thework you did in the aftermath of Hurricane
Ian, which devastated the southwest coastof Florida. So I was in Ukraine
a month before the war, startedbuilding things and getting set up ahead of
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the work. I'd come out ofAfghanistan, came home for Christmas, and
then went to Ukraine in January.The worst started February twenty fourth, so
and then I stayed all the wayuntil October. I'd come out of Ukraine
because the hurricane was coming to Tampaand I'm from Tampa. I also needed
to do my taxes. I allof a sud needed some downtime. Yeah,
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I've been at war in the warzone for ten and a half months.
I needed, you know, alittle bit of quiet and peace and
spend at my pool for a littlebit. So I came home the hurricane
is supposed to hit Tampa. Myfamily and I we prepare, are in
the sand bags and all that stuffand whatever, and then jokes on everybody,
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the hurricane stopped short and looks tobang a right. Well, as
that was happening, most of mycrew were Tampa Bays, so most of
my crew we were getting ready for. Okay, well we're here. We've
been rescuing Americans ten thousand miles awayand all kinds of people ten thousand miles
away. Let's see what we cando here. You know, I mean,
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you know, how hard could itbe. It's trees and wind and
water. I mean coming from artilleryand Christmases and fire plane Yeah yeah,
no, I mean, and it'sour neighborhood. We speak the language.
There's a lot of things about thiskind of operation that are more in our
favor than that. Well, jokeson us. It stopped short and bangs
are right, and it goes throughnaples and fort Byers in that whole area,
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and a bunch of barrier, right. So as we saw that,
I spun up my crew and Isaid, this is what we're gonna do.
Right, We'll see how bad itis. But as the sun comes
up, you know, right aroundtwo three o'clock in the morning, let's
get in our trucks. Let wehave friends with boats, and let's get
down there, because surely, ifit's bad, all the bridges are going
to be walked out to the barrier. Yep, that's exactly what happened,
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right and Tampa wasn't hit. Sowe got so all my shand bags of
all I stip that I bought actuallynothing. I bought work gloves and goggles
and a lot of stuff. Iactually had a lot of supplies and short
than everybody else. And that's exactlywhat we did the sun. Before the
sun came up, we were fine. I wanted to make sure that by
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the time we got down there thatwe could seek because then we're going to
be down threes. All that stuffwe got in the water, we got
in the water within a few withinan hour or so of the sun coming
up. On day one, wehad already done two rescue operations by boat.
As Florida Fish and Wildlife were firstshowing up and getting in the water.
We were there before the coast Guard, We're there before the state Police,
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before everybody. What the idea wasis there's lots of resources on the
mainland, but these barrier islands StantaBelle mat was, shay Pine Island,
they were cut off, going tobe cut off. Yeah, so let's
do our So let's do boats.And then we started thinking about how we're
going to do this because with thewind and the and the water. As
a career as a Navy officer,I know that all the maps and charts
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aren't going to match. All thenavigation lads are going to be gone where
communications, communication is down all theself when towers are gone, and in
the little in the island, onthe islands, there's all these little like
channels with people who have boat docksin the back of their houses. Well,
yeah, let's not go there becauseyou'll find off. You know,
you'll find a pickup truck, youknow, summers before the water RiPP over
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the bottom of the boat. Let'snot do that. This is what we're
gonna do, right, We're gonnabeach our boats D Day style and assault
the beach like D Day because thatat least we can't see and probably the
DePree fields won't be terrible on thebeaches, it'll be all in wind and
all that stuff. And sure enoughwe were right with exactly what we did.
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We started getting eating people. Peopleknew us in Florida and people would
say, my grandmother's at one twentythree Happy Street on Sante Belle Island.
She's eighty five years old and adiabetic. We haven't heard from her.
Uh, you know, can youcheck bring her out? You know we're
calling, there's an answer because there'sno cell phones. So that's what we
did. I got my crew together. We started beaching boats like this and
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we did dozens and dozens and dozensdo some operations. If you're watching me
the video of the Coast Guard helicopterslanding on day one, what you'll see
is Dynamo patches who were the CoastGuard boats didn't show up for a few
days. The helicopters are flying around, but they don't they can't talk to
anyone. There's no cell phones.So we would bring people to the beach.
And we were landing helicopters on thebeach and there are a bunch of
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older people. It's Florida, youknow. Well, some people called Santa
Belle Island God's waiting room. Youknow. You guys were there and look
a lot of people got taken bysurprise at the severity the storm and what
came along with it. Just anotherincredible story. Real quick, we have
a little less than a minute.Just tell us how people can help support
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all of these different things that you'redoing. Project Dynamo dot org. Please
go to our website, Please donate. I'm looking actively for corporate sponsors.
If you're a business and you wantcool branding stuff, I'll help you.
We need help. Our demand isthrough the roof. Also number two,
go to our social media, followus and share our stuff. Awareness is
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key. If every one of yourlisteners gave one dollar, I can go
rescue Americans tomorrow, no problem.We have Americans all over the place.
I'm on my way to Haiti,We've got Taiwan. We need help.
Our plane in our plane that wedid in Sudan, we rescued one hundred
and forty six Americans from Sudan causeabout half a million bucks. I went
going to go in seventh Triple seven, the only airplane for Americans to go
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to Sudan. The US government tothrow people out. We went in and
took our people out, our civiliansout. It turns into three grand ahead
for that trip. You cannot goto Africa for three thousand dollars. We're
a good deal. Yeah, we'rea good deal. We're cost effective,
we're really leaning mean. There isno Dynamo Marvel covered lobby where we put
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all the money into the operations,so we need help again. The website
is Project Dynamo dot org. ProjectDynamo dot org. Brian Stern, founder
and CEO of Project Dynamo, ofveteran led donor funded International Search, Rescue,
aid and Assistance nonprofit organization. Briancan't thank you enough for all the
tremendous work you're doing all around theworld, and thank you so much for
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coming on the show. Thanks forhaving me. I really appreciate it.
Thank you all right. That's goingto do it for this edition of iHeartRadio
Communities. I'm your host, RyanBorman. Want to thank all of you
for listening. We'll talk to youagain real soon.
Welcome to iHeartRadio Communities, a publicaffairs special focusing on the biggest issues impacting
you. This week, here's RyanGorman. Thanks for joining us cre on
iHeartRadio Communities. I'm Ryan Gorman,and we have a very important conversation lined
up for you for this show.I'm joined right now by Brian Stern,
founder and CEO of Project Dynamo,a veteran, led donor funded international search,
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rescue, aid and assistance nonprofit organization. You can learn more about all
their work and support their work atProject Dynamo dot org. Brian, thank
you so much for taking a fewminutes to come on the show and let
me start with your personal background andwhat led you into this line of work.
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Well, yeah, thanks for havingme. I started off life in
the army, and somehow in themiddle of all that one in the Navy.
The bulk of my career I camein into the late nineties and the
Bill Clinton, so I've been arounda long, long, long time standards
of the dinosaur. I started offlife as as an infantry guy, carrying
a rifle, doing regular army stuff. But it was pre nine eleven.
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There wasn't a luck going on.I got recruited into Army intelligence, and
I've been in the intelligence community prettymuch ever since. That's taken me all
over the world doing all kinds ofweird things. And my career is basically
either has been predominantly in either thenational level intelligence community, different agencies and
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programs and different kinds of things likethat, or in the darker side of
special operations. So when you thinkabout special operations, guys, you think
about, you know, bearded dudeswith sleeve tattoos and machine guns and all
that stuff. That's the easy stuffthat we do. The real hard stuff
is in places where you can't bringin helicopters and machine guns and that kind
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of thing, and that's really wheremy specialty has always been. I've worked.
I've worked in every continent. Actuallythat's a true I've never worked in
Australia. I always wanted to go. But I've worked all over Africa,
all over Latin America, all overEurope, and of course the Middle East.
I've been Afghanistan enough times before Ithink I qualified for citizenship. So
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again, even when we talk aboutthings like Afghanistan, during my time in
Afghanistan, most of my targets werenot in Afghanistan. Most of my targets
were to the east and to theWest, or Chinese issues or Russian issues,
and I'll kind of senior leadership too, but guys like we don't really
focus on the Taliban because they're nota high enough level frankly from a strategic
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impact perspective. So most of mycareers been based in those kinds of weird
and really hard target, hard problemsets. I was the first responder in
the morning in nine eleven. Isurvived all collapses. I was. I
was in New York while in theArmy, so I was of both collapses.
I'm a two time loser. Thatis what we call it. And
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again, you know, as itrelates to Diamo, people forget that on
the morning in nine to eleven andthe original first responders, many of them
were just civilians. They were justpeople on the way to work dealing with
a very terrible situation and catastrophic eventsand they fell compelled to help. And
that leads to Diabo. Dynamo isan international We're an international rescue organization.
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I'm not an assassin, I'm notany terrible thing. We're very simple.
We're a rescue team that goes inwhere the US government isn't the best way
to think about US. So ifthey leave, like in Afghanistan, we
show up, which is kind ofhow we started. If they're never gonna
come, like in Ukraine, We'renever going to send a seal team into
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Ukraine to rescue an American. We'renot going to do that, or until
they show up, like they're inHurricane Ian in Florida. We were in
the water in the first few hourson day one. Once the coast Guard
and everyone showed up, then wepeel out. We're first in, first
out in that context, and thenin places like in Russia where the diplomatic
relationship is so poor. Yes wehave an embassy, and yes we have
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it's not a war zone, butthat presence is so bad and the relationship
is so bad things that need tohappen. That's also where we step in,
and we're the first organization to everdo that on Russian soil and history.
I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio Communities, joined by Brian Stern, founder
and CEO of Project Dynamo. Youcan learn more at Project Dynamo dot org.
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So let's talk about the creation ofthis project and you mentioned it was
tied to the situation in Afghanistan.How did this all come about? Well,
well, if we go back toAugust twenty twenty one, the u
US withdrawal of Afghanistan, it's nota political thing. But bottom line is
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it clearly wasn't going well right.That's not a Republican thing. That's on
the democrat thing. It's the factlife. I was watching on TV and
a lot, like many of us, were trying to and as an Afghan
invent trying to understand what do Ido. I spent a lot of time
there. I buried a lot offriends there, American I lost American friends
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there and Afghan friends there. Forwhat I do. I'm on the streets
with the Afghans. My last timegetting shot at in Afghanistan, it was
actually the Canadians and brit shooting atme. I'm thinking that I was a
bad guy. So when I tellyou that we're invented with these folks who
live and die with us and takeit very personally. So I was watching
it on TV and uh and literallyI was trying to figure out what to
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do. And I was very upset, very emotional thing. And people are
calling and saying help me, helpme, help me people who I knew,
and I was out of government.I don't do this anymore. I
was in business. I was livingmy next chapter in my life and having
a good time. Frankly, andas there was this moment where I was
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literally working on my keynote speech forthe twentieth anniversary of September eleventh, which
was just a few weeks later.This is August twenty twenty one, mid
August. We're just a few weeksaway. So I was working on my
keynote and I'm watching TV and Isee the C seventeen the airplane take off,
and I'm watching Afghans fall from thelanding gear. Remember the last time.
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The last time I saw that wason the morning of nine eleven,
and it struck a chord, AndI said to myself, how is it
possible? Literally, as I'm workingon my speech as a first respondent for
nine to eleven, where twenty yearslater, almost to the day, this
whole thing is screwed up. TheTaliban are back in charge. How did
that happen? And there are innocentpeople jumping to their desks. Is a
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better idea of staying where they're atcaused by the same people. This is
wrong. I've done a lot ofthis kind of work. I've done a
lot of hot to rescue of mycareer. I always work in strange places.
I'm used to dynamic environments. Sothere's no help. So I called
some friends of mine. I said, this is what we're gonna do.
We're gonna get the band back together. We're gonna do one last last We're
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gonna pack our Lots of different veterangroups were kind of coming to life trying
to help, but we were theones that went forward. That was always
different about Dynamo, which we packedour stuff. We flew into Uzbekistan,
which is how we evaded the countryto O one. We went all the
way to the southern border, starteddoing cross border operations. As that happened,
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Secretary of State Lincoln and Secrety DefenseAusten got on TV and they said
August thirtieth is the last day forAmericans in Afghanistan. At that moment,
I knew that the prior to youknow, between now and then, we
have plenty of work to do.But the reality is the air forces they're
flying people out. The real workwill begin on September one. That's when
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this party first starts. Clearly it'snot going well. Clearly people will be
left behind. Clearly there's going tobe people that need help. What do
we do September one? Once themilitary is gone, that's when the real
talent is going to be neat andthat's where guys like me to really specialize
where there is no help, wherethere is no at help. The problem
with this is is that we wereset up to rescue our Afghanalys, the
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men and women who fought with us, the human rights activists, that judges,
the commandos, intelligence officers. Itnever occurred to me that we'd be
rescuing Americans left behind. That's whatwe didn't plan for. And I will
tell you two years later, almostliterally two years later, in August twenty
twenty three, you would not believeit, but I am still pulling Americans
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out of that gift still two that'sa long time to be in hiding.
That's a long time. That's howwe started. I'm Ryan Gorman here on
iHeart Radio Communities, joined by BrianStern, founder and CEO of Project Dynamo.
You can learn more about all theirwork and support their work they're doing
at Project Dynamo dot org. Soand you can explain this in a very
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general census to not give you toomuch way, but how does this work?
You get what a tip or youhear directly from somebody, let's say
in Afghanistan they can't get out,they need assistance, and then where do
you go? How do you navigatethat from there? Yeah, it's uh,
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it's complicated. It's just a youknow, a semeister's law class at
the War College and how did youdiscristionary warfare? But what we do is
number one, we don't break thelaw. Ever, I have not in
all the countries that we've worked inby now, you know, I understanding
the fact that Afghanistan is one countryof many that we've now could call up
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the servant from Ukraine to Russia,to Sudan, to Haiti, to preparing
for Taiwan, to other places thatare on other places where there's no USMB
the c president. We do.It's not like TV where when you see
that, you know Liam Nisan ina taken moment, he's doing donuts in
this car, spinning around. WhenI'm on the street, I drive the
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speed limits right, I wear myseatbelt, I used my blinkers. I
never want to give anyone an excuseto get mad at me because I can't
afford to come under scrutiny. Numberone, that's a great way to get
your head chopped off or arrested ortortured or whatever. But more importantly,
if I get rolled, what's nothappening is the operation, and that's why
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we're there in the first place.That's the point. There's no one else
coming for these people, but dynamowe've got. We've rescued over six thousand
people from twenty nine different nationalities.We've broken American We've broken Americans out of
jail to Russian intelligence. And thenpeople will say, well, you know
I have a broken watch and it'sright twice a day. Well, we've
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done it multiple times. Never theCIA hasn't done there, So how do
we do that? It's a lotof magic. Right, How did David
Copperfield make the statue of liberty disappearin front of three thousand people? Probably
he didn't actually make the section?Probably not right, Probably not, I
don't know. I wasn't there.Maybe he did, but what I hear
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it's still there. But there arethree thousand people that those that don't pass
a polygraph and testify under oath thatthey totally saw it disappear in front of
their very eyes. They were thereand it happened and whatever. Look,
that's very much until we do alot of these things where it's a lot
of subtexts, it's a lot ofpretext, it's a lot of wazzle dazzle,
it's sometimes slight of hand. Butwhat it's never is breaking the law
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because where we work there is nohelp. That's me And I want to
follow up on that point. Whenyou're in a country like Afghanistan, you
are on your own on these rescuemissions. So, like you were saying
before, it's not like what wewould see in the movie because you don't
want shots to be fired because thenit's all eyes on you and what you're
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doing, and that's probably not gonnaend with and be a great example.
People always ask people what kind ofguns do you carry when they're overseas,
and most people are surprised to findout that I work on armed right,
which is kind of strange. Right, when you think about these things in
your head, you think about facemasks, Yeah, you know, right,
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that's like a mental visual right inthe day, you know, yeah,
like those kinds of character. Right, it's not that at all.
I'm I'm completely out of shape.I eat like crap, Gray, my
body, my knees is sort uh, you know, I don't really run
at all. It's not that kindof thing. It's not And if you
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think about it, and they'll giveme a good example. We broke a
kid out of jail from the placecalled Hersan in Ukraine, in southern Ukraine,
which is occupied by Russia. Hewas a raised an American from Detroit.
He was arrested by the FSB,which is like the Russian FBI.
Pretty terrible people. There are dozensof them, are sanctioned, hundreds of
them are dieting from war crimes.Is a very terrible people, right.
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You don't want to wind up intheir care. He is a twenty nine
year old American for Michigan, who'sthe first American victim of war crimes.
Right. He was tortured. Hewas beaten every day, mock executions everything.
I mean, you know John McCainlevel torture, beating up, broke
his back to him and his wifewas brutalized all kinds of stuff. A
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very terrible situation. Right, ifI would have gotten into a gunfight,
if I would have gone in hardthe way you would imagine we broke him
out of jail, if you wouldimagine that I broke if I did it
that way, from where he wasto the closest thing that looks like a
friend is twenty one hours away bycar, and you can't fly in Ukraine,
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which means I would need a dumptruck of apple behind to survive that
gunfight. Right, I would literallyneed a semi truck to fight half the
Russian army. What do one hoursin a running double fight? And they
have helicopters and the airplanes that werenot going to work. So we got
to do it in a different way. We have to do it in a
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different way. And for perspectives,were the ones that told the bad guys
that we got him, they wentto go check on him. They didn't
even know that we had Wow.Okay, that was also cool about dynamo.
Right. What's also cool is inmy government life, we can never
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show anybody any of these things.I didn't invent any of these tactics nothing.
If I had an original thought,it would die alonely. I was
trained to talk by the best rightin my old life. We can never
tell anybody about these kinds of things, Dynatamo. We're private. We record
everything, so when I talk todonors, you need to hear these stories.
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I say, don't take my wordfor it. Watch this video and
you could see the Russian sent ahit man to kill me right after this
operation. We at him on witha GoPro on a roof of our van.
We got that on video, foundhim on Facebook, sent the video
to this guy's mother in Russia afterthe Ukrainians killed it. Oh my god.
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Now that you know that brings meto another question. Are you were
as you're you're telling these stories andthis is on the radio, so we're
good here, but you know yourface is out there you're telling these stories.
Are you concerned that it could makethe missions more difficult moving forward?
It does a little bit. We'vehad We've had my team and I have
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had some really post calls. We'vebeen blown up, we've been shot at
all kinds of things. But atthe same time, Number One, we
do media because we're donor funded andwe need help. And you know,
you can't be a famous smuggler,which is why I'm not a smuggler.
But I need the public to goto Project Dynamo dot org and click the
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little donate button because these these airplanesdon't pay for themselves. I can't get
Russians to commit espionage because I'm areally nice guy. It doesn't work that
way. Uh. You know,these things cost money, you know,
So that's why we do media.If we had some big monster, you
know, if the if the CEOof American Airlines and he's listening and he
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gives us an adoptment for twenty milliondollars, I promise will never be on
TV ever A yet I hate youknow, but we don't. We don't
have that benefit right now, andour demand signals to the roofs. So
we got to do the media.Isn't a risk, absolutely, But at
the same time, and a lotof people have a hard time understanding this
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fight, especially in the Russia.In the in the context of Russia,
half the war is kindetic. Theother half is about messaging. As an
American, it is a good daywhen I can say, not only did
I kick your butt, but Iput it on Facebook. Yeah. You
needs don't even know how I getit. Yeah, No, I get
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that right, right, there's athere's a benefit there, but there's another
way of fighting, you know.I'm Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio Communities with
Brian Stern, founder and CEO ofProject Dynamo, of veteran led donor funded
international search, rescue, aid andassistance nonprofit organization. You can learn more
and support the work that we're talkingabout, and you just heard it from
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Brian. They need your support.Project Dynamo dot org is the website Project
Dynamo dot org. So you geta call or a message someone needs rescuing
in Afghanistan or Ukraine or all theseother different places that you operate, how
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long does the planning for that operationtake? So these operations we've done five
We were rescued over six thousand people. Yeah, in twenty three and a
half months, almost twenty four months. We're about to have our two year
birthday. Some of those we've doneone hundreds at a time. Right,
we flew into Afghanistan. We gotthe first landing clearance from the Taliban after
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the Taliban took control. Who knewthat was a thing. We landed an
Airbus eight three twenty in cobble norunaway lights with legitimate landing clearance. Wow,
Okay, it took one hundred andseventeen Americans that out in one shot.
So some of some of these operationsare big numbers. And then there
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are things that the jail breaks thatare one that are onesies. So it
depends. Each of these things havea life cycle. Just like children,
there's a we you know, wefind that we're pregnant, we deal with
the pregnancy, we give birth.There's an infancy thing in there which is
always a pain. There's a comingof age thing we wind up at our
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teenage years, which is more painful. That's what everything goes wrong. And
then at some point you know,it's on its own and then it's done.
So each of these things are there'sno recipe, there's nothing cookie cutter
about it. If I had toland a plane in Afghanistan today, that's
fundamentally different than how I did ittwo years ago. So it really depends.
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But I'll give you a great example. We did it. We did
this case called Pathfinder inside Russia.Okay, we got really big into the
into surrogate baby. So what thatis is, you know, you're an
American man and I'm an American woman. We're trying to have kids. We
can't. We try IVF, roundsof IBF doesn't work. We try donors
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and stuff that doesn't work. There'sthis thing called surrogate pregnancy, which I
didn't know anything about until I gotbombed. In this thing where they take
you know, my egg, you'rea sperm, they stick it together,
they make an embryo, and theystick it inside of a Ukrainian woman.
Okay, and she's the baby ofit. Genetically, that baby is American.
The problem is is that that Ukrainianwoman is stuck in this thing called
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a war zone, which is verycomplicated and generally speaking, the women that
do this are from the lower endof the socioeconomic spectrum. They're doing it
for money. It's a service thatthey provide. Nobody likes to be nobody
likes to be pregnant. Who wantsto be pregnant with someone else's kid for
that matter, right, So it'sa service for money. Those women tend
to come from the places that arenow occupied by Russian So imagine you and
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I are trying to have kids foryears and years and years and years and
years. Finally, we're pregnant,but jokes on us. The war starts.
Every country around Ukraine. Surrogacy isa felony, so you got to
give birth inside Ukraine. So that'sa problem. They can't leave right,
all these issues, well, wehad a case. We had a case
called Pathfinder where there was this kindof thing and the surrogate was in don
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Bess and couldn't get through the frontlines. And she's pregnant with twins from
Texas, from right outside Dalams.She's got a baby boy and a baby
girl from Texas. In her beltwas getting so terrible she fled south into
Russian occupied territory, into Crimea andthen up into Saint Petersburg, Russia,
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where surrogacy is surrogacy is illegal,and being a Ukrainian in Russia doesn't go
over too well. And it's notlike you can say, but don't worry,
I have two Americans and that doesn'tgo over well. Either doesn't work.
He gives birth to two kids onSeptember. The fifth baby Benjamin and
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baby it was Whip gives birth andthen disappears. So now you have two
American kids abandoned in Russia with Russianbirth certificates on it and a Ukrainians mother's
name on it. We's now gone. Those kids become wards of the state
as you would imagine, right,normal stuff, and they find themselves in
a Russian state run orphanage whole weekout from I mean, this is like
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an Apollo thirteen level, Like whatis good about this story? Yeah?
Right? The babies were pin inSeptember five. The US government, everyone
is trying and trying and trying.The parents go to Estonia, which is
the closest NATO country to Russia.It's on the border and the closest country
to Saint Petersburg, and they're tryingand trying, and they're their kids.
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These are mommies. You know,they've been trying to have kids for eight
years. Eight years. It musthave been topic of breakfast, lunch,
and dinner for every meal that they'veever had. Is let's be a family.
Let's be a family. Yeah.They get a hold of us in
November, right before Thanksgiving. Weplan for eleven days. We executed operations
on Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Thirteen hourslater the same day. They are a
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family in a NATO control country.That is unbelievable. I want to bring
it back home domestically, because youmentioned an operation that you did that's different
from these stories that we've been talkingabout up to this point. And again
I'm Ryan Gorman, joined by BrianStern, Founder and CEO of Project Dynamo.
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You can learn more and support allof this tremendous work at Project Dynamo
dot org. Tell us about thework you did in the aftermath of Hurricane
Ian, which devastated the southwest coastof Florida. So I was in Ukraine
a month before the war, startedbuilding things and getting set up ahead of
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the work. I'd come out ofAfghanistan, came home for Christmas, and
then went to Ukraine in January.The worst started February twenty fourth, so
and then I stayed all the wayuntil October. I'd come out of Ukraine
because the hurricane was coming to Tampaand I'm from Tampa. I also needed
to do my taxes. I allof a sud needed some downtime. Yeah,
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I've been at war in the warzone for ten and a half months.
I needed, you know, alittle bit of quiet and peace and
spend at my pool for a littlebit. So I came home the hurricane
is supposed to hit Tampa. Myfamily and I we prepare, are in
the sand bags and all that stuffand whatever, and then jokes on everybody,
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the hurricane stopped short and looks tobang a right. Well, as
that was happening, most of mycrew were Tampa Bays, so most of
my crew we were getting ready for. Okay, well we're here. We've
been rescuing Americans ten thousand miles awayand all kinds of people ten thousand miles
away. Let's see what we cando here. You know, I mean,
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you know, how hard could itbe. It's trees and wind and
water. I mean coming from artilleryand Christmases and fire plane Yeah yeah,
no, I mean, and it'sour neighborhood. We speak the language.
There's a lot of things about thiskind of operation that are more in our
favor than that. Well, jokeson us. It stopped short and bangs
are right, and it goes throughnaples and fort Byers in that whole area,
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and a bunch of barrier, right. So as we saw that,
I spun up my crew and Isaid, this is what we're gonna do.
Right, We'll see how bad itis. But as the sun comes
up, you know, right aroundtwo three o'clock in the morning, let's
get in our trucks. Let wehave friends with boats, and let's get
down there, because surely, ifit's bad, all the bridges are going
to be walked out to the barrier. Yep, that's exactly what happened,
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right and Tampa wasn't hit. Sowe got so all my shand bags of
all I stip that I bought actuallynothing. I bought work gloves and goggles
and a lot of stuff. Iactually had a lot of supplies and short
than everybody else. And that's exactlywhat we did the sun. Before the
sun came up, we were fine. I wanted to make sure that by
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the time we got down there thatwe could seek because then we're going to
be down threes. All that stuffwe got in the water, we got
in the water within a few withinan hour or so of the sun coming
up. On day one, wehad already done two rescue operations by boat.
As Florida Fish and Wildlife were firstshowing up and getting in the water.
We were there before the coast Guard, We're there before the state Police,
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before everybody. What the idea wasis there's lots of resources on the
mainland, but these barrier islands StantaBelle mat was, shay Pine Island,
they were cut off, going tobe cut off. Yeah, so let's
do our So let's do boats.And then we started thinking about how we're
going to do this because with thewind and the and the water. As
a career as a Navy officer,I know that all the maps and charts
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aren't going to match. All thenavigation lads are going to be gone where
communications, communication is down all theself when towers are gone, and in
the little in the island, onthe islands, there's all these little like
channels with people who have boat docksin the back of their houses. Well,
yeah, let's not go there becauseyou'll find off. You know,
you'll find a pickup truck, youknow, summers before the water RiPP over
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the bottom of the boat. Let'snot do that. This is what we're
gonna do, right, We're gonnabeach our boats D Day style and assault
the beach like D Day because thatat least we can't see and probably the
DePree fields won't be terrible on thebeaches, it'll be all in wind and
all that stuff. And sure enoughwe were right with exactly what we did.
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We started getting eating people. Peopleknew us in Florida and people would
say, my grandmother's at one twentythree Happy Street on Sante Belle Island.
She's eighty five years old and adiabetic. We haven't heard from her.
Uh, you know, can youcheck bring her out? You know we're
calling, there's an answer because there'sno cell phones. So that's what we
did. I got my crew together. We started beaching boats like this and
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we did dozens and dozens and dozensdo some operations. If you're watching me
the video of the Coast Guard helicopterslanding on day one, what you'll see
is Dynamo patches who were the CoastGuard boats didn't show up for a few
days. The helicopters are flying around, but they don't they can't talk to
anyone. There's no cell phones.So we would bring people to the beach.
And we were landing helicopters on thebeach and there are a bunch of
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older people. It's Florida, youknow. Well, some people called Santa
Belle Island God's waiting room. Youknow. You guys were there and look
a lot of people got taken bysurprise at the severity the storm and what
came along with it. Just anotherincredible story. Real quick, we have
a little less than a minute.Just tell us how people can help support
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all of these different things that you'redoing. Project Dynamo dot org. Please
go to our website, Please donate. I'm looking actively for corporate sponsors.
If you're a business and you wantcool branding stuff, I'll help you.
We need help. Our demand isthrough the roof. Also number two,
go to our social media, followus and share our stuff. Awareness is
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key. If every one of yourlisteners gave one dollar, I can go
rescue Americans tomorrow, no problem.We have Americans all over the place.
I'm on my way to Haiti,We've got Taiwan. We need help.
Our plane in our plane that wedid in Sudan, we rescued one hundred
and forty six Americans from Sudan causeabout half a million bucks. I went
going to go in seventh Triple seven, the only airplane for Americans to go
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to Sudan. The US government tothrow people out. We went in and
took our people out, our civiliansout. It turns into three grand ahead
for that trip. You cannot goto Africa for three thousand dollars. We're
a good deal. Yeah, we'rea good deal. We're cost effective,
we're really leaning mean. There isno Dynamo Marvel covered lobby where we put
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all the money into the operations,so we need help again. The website
is Project Dynamo dot org. ProjectDynamo dot org. Brian Stern, founder
and CEO of Project Dynamo, ofveteran led donor funded International Search, Rescue,
aid and Assistance nonprofit organization. Briancan't thank you enough for all the
tremendous work you're doing all around theworld, and thank you so much for
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coming on the show. Thanks forhaving me. I really appreciate it.
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