January 20, 2024 • 29 mins
Ryan Gorman hosts an iHeartRadio nationwide special featuring Robert Ginyard, Former Chairman of the Board of Directors for Zero Prostate Cancer. Robert Ginyard shares his personal experience battling prostate cancer and discusses Zero Prostate Cancer’s mission to bring awareness, advocacy, and resources to the fight against prostate cancer. Also, Bill Alexander, CEO of the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, checks in. Bill Alexander discusses a new report on law enforcement line-of-duty deaths for 2023, along with the NLEOMF’s work recognizing those who died while serving and providing resources and training to agencies nationwide.
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Welcome to iHeartRadio Communities, a publicaffairs special focusing on the biggest issues impacting
you. This week, here's RyanGorman. Thanks so much for joining us
here on iHeartRadio Communities. I'm RyanGorman, and we have a few very
important conversations lined up for you.In a bit, we'll check in with
the National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund totalk about the work that organization does and
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a new report on law enforcement debtsfor twenty twenty three. But first to
get things started, let me bringin my first guest. I'm joined now
by Robert Ginyard, a prostay cancersurvivor and patient advocate who was recently chair
of Zero Prostay Cancer's board of directors. He's also the host of the Intentionally
Overheard podcast. You can learn moreabout zero Prostay Cancer at zerocancer dot org.
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Robert, thank you so much forcoming on the show. And let's
begin with your personal story of overcominga prostay cancer diagnosis. Yes, well,
thank you Ryan for having me asa guest today. Ippreciate the opportunity
and sure my story starts out asa forty eight year old young man who
was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Iam now sixty one, but that diagnosis
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at forty eight took me for quitethe tailspin. I didn't have any symptoms
leading up to my prostate cancer diagnosis. Once I found out for my primary
physicition, we followed the appropriate stepsto get a second opinion. Consequently,
we did deal with the surgery,followed up by some other treatments. But
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I am happy to say that herein twenty twenty four, I am doing
well, no signs of cancer.And I was originally diagnosed in twenty ten.
And I would really chalk that up, Ryan, to a relationship with
my primary care physician, but alsothe importance of early detection, because I'm
living proof that it does save livesand extends lives in many cases. Let
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me ask you this, at thatage, was prostate cancer even on your
radar? Was that something you evereven thought about, Ryan, Not at
all. I was healthy, youknow, I went to the gym and
worked out at least three or fourdays a week, eating well. So
it was a surprise and shocked tomy system that this was even there in
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my body. And the other thingabout it, Ran, is that I
had found out years later that mydad had about a prostate cancer. But
you know, and then my dad'sfrom a different generation. Ryan, he
didn't want the family to know abouthis diagnosis because he was worried about us
and we would think that something's wrongwith him and he's going to die.
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And so he really wanted to keepthat a secret from us because he didn't
want us to endure that kind ofemotional pain. But it would have been
good to know that that was somethingthat runs through the family. And so
my advocacy work now is of courseearly detection, but also having that honest
conversation with family members to say,hey, you know your uncle had this,
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or your had this, your dadhad this, Because as soon as
we know about that, the betterwe can prepare in terms of early detection
and at least keeping it on theradar screen. So how did you end
up getting involved with this organization ZeroProstate Cancer. Well, Ryan, here's
a quick story. I got involvedwith the organization by i'd say state and
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a little bit of a mistake.My wife suggested that I go to a
run walk event that they had zerohad in my hometown of Baltimore. Ryan,
I really wasn't feeling it. Itwas a rainy morning, and I
figured that I would dodge into acoffee shop, hang out for about three
or four hours, and then gohome and tell my wife with a great
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event. But my heart would notallow me to do that. My wife
is like an investigative reporter. Shewould have tore me to shred. So
I figured, let's go to thisevent. And again it was raining,
it was cold. Ryan. Iget to the event and it was like
the heaven opened up, the suncame out, you could see a rainbow,
and here I was amongst all theseother prostate cancer survivors and their families
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and of course members of the organization. That's how I became familiar with Zero,
and I really loved their mission somuch that I wanted to get involved.
Served as a board member and theneventually became the board chair many years
later. So that's how that relationshipbegan. So I owe it really to
my wife and that cup of coffeethat I didn't have. That's an amazing
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story. I'm Ryan Gorman. Hereon IHEARDIO Communities with Robert Ginyard, the
prostate cancer survivor and patient advocate whowas recently chair of Zero Prostate Cancer's Board
of directors. You can learn moreat Zero Cancer dot Org. So tell
us about the work this organization doesand the work you did when you were
in that role. My role nowis to continue to be an advocate for
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the organization and support them in manyways that I can. My years as
the board chair, I really againtried to concentrate on research, funding and
spreading the word about advocacy and racialdisparities, and so those were my key
and core missions. And the newBoard of Director's chair, Tom Bonnano,
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has taken up that helm and doinga terrific job. So now they pushed
me out of that seat and nowI get to do some of the other
fun stuff like be a part ofthe Blue Jacket fashion show that will be
happening on February first in New York. And this fashion show that's taking place
again, like you said, Februaryfirst in New York City, this is
something that everyone can be a partof. Yes they can. Ryan.
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While the event will take place inNew York, it will be available via
live stream and so you'll get tosee many of us who really have no
player for fashion, but we've cometogether for this event to bring the fashion
industry, the media industry, andthe entertainment industry together to really bring awareness
this issue. And I talk aboutthis event being that your fashion is about
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the outward appearance, but we hopewhat we do that night, we'll focus
on the inward piece of our livesin terms of our good health and making
sure that we live the best livesthat we can for our family members.
Final question for you, how canpeople learn more about the word zero prostate
cancer does and also how can theysupport the work your organization's doing. Ryan,
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Thank you so much for that askingme that question. Your listeners can
visit zero cancer dot org. That'szero cancer dot org, and you can
find any information you want to knowabout prostate cancer, what we're doing,
what we do in terms of advocatingon the hill, in terms of more
research dollars for prostate cancer, andso you can find any and most information
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that you would like on that websitezero cancer dot org. And I'm pretty
sure there's something for everybody. Andif you're not a prostate cancer patient or
survivor you still your spouse or anybodylooking for information about prostate cancer and how
they can support the organization, youcan find all of that information on that
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website. And plus, like theevent, that you went to. You
can find events near where you live, support groups, resources, views on
the website, you'll be able tofind out different run walk events that are
occurring across the country, and wehave many of them this time of the
year. Ryan, we're really gearingup for all of these run walk series
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that typically began around March and theygo through almost until the end of the
year. So we've got a lotof champions out there in various communities across
the country, and we hope wecan bring on more. Robert Kin your
prostate cancer survivor, patient advocate andformer chair of Zero Prostate Cancer's Board of
directors, so host of the IntentionallyOverheard podcast. You can learn more about
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this organization and again support the workthey do at zero cancer dot org.
Robert, thank you so much forcoming on and sharing your story, and
thank you so much for the greatwork you're doing on this important issue.
Thank you, Ran, thank youfor having me. All right, I'm
Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio Communities andnow let me bring in the CEO of
the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, Bill Alexander. You can learn more
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about this organization at nl EOMF dotOrg. Bill, thank you so much
for coming on the show, andlet's start with the backstory how this organization
came about and the mission you're on. Well, we are the National Law
Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. We exist, we started existing, and I think
most people are likely aware of usfor the memorial, the National Law Enforcement
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Officers Memorial. It's the place wherewe try to honor memorialize, remember to
never forget the men and women whohave died in the broad stretch of US
history serving in some law enforcement capacity. Today, right now, we memorialize
the names of twenty three thousand,seven hundred and eighty five men and women,
and this year we are likely toadd something north of one hundred and
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fifty new names to what we view. Again, it's very safred walls.
So that is the memorial, Butof course over time, we as an
organization have grown. Right here inWashington, d C. We have a
world class museum. It is theNational Law Enforcement Officers Museum. It's the
place where we try to tell thestory of American law enforcement and it's also
a place where visitors can come andsort of metaphorically walk in the shoes of
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a man or woman in uniform andreally get a sense of how powerful even
a single police officer can be.And of course I would argue is and
the communities that they are serving.And then finally, we have a third
pillar, which we refer to asoster safety and wellness. It's the place
where in part taking some of thedata from those line of duty dusts that
ultimately end up on our sacred walls, but also us thinking about talking about
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crafting, creating, editing, andpushing out what we hope is to a
meaningful degree, programs and best practices, and an effort to make it safer
for the men and women who aredoing the jobs out on our I might
argue increasingly dangerous streets, and ofcourse, by extension, also making it
safeer for members of the public wholaw enforcement is sworn to protect. So
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that broadly is us. Let's stepthrough each of those that you highlighted,
and will begin with the memorial.Is there a criteria that's in place in
order to have a fallen member oflaw enforcement get named as part of this
memorial? There absolutely is. Wehave a relatively strict set of criteria to
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ultimately for us to decide that itis what we would refer to as a
line of duty death. So youknow, in short, basically, if
you are performing some law enforcement functionand you are employed by a law enforcement
agency, and during the course ofthat function, whatever it is that you're
doing, you are injured and subsequentlykilled as a result of that injury,
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that generally would fall in guidelines ofa line of duty death. So that
certainly includes responding to say an armrobbery or progress and the officer shot and
killed. It would include traffic fatality, So officers outside of their car,
say, directing traffic or on theside of the road, and they get
struck and killed. That we count. If they are operating a car or
a motorcycle and subsequently in a crashwhich results in their death, that would
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be a line of duty death.And then there are a number of medical
events. Probably most notably people certainlywould be aware of those who responded to
the terror attacks on nine to eleven. We're working on the recovery efforts in
New York and inhaled and adjusted andobtained some number of toxins which ultimately resulted
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in them getting cancers and other variousdiseases. The long tail of that is
playing out even now every single yearwe add plus or minus six to a
dozen folks who die related to thosethings, so those would be line of
duty deaths. And then, ofcourse there are some major medical events,
mostly heart attacks. So if anofficer is engaged in some sort of physical,
strenuous, stressful incident or struggle andthen subsequently has a heart attack or
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another medical event which results in theirdeath related to that struggle or stressful event,
we would also call that a lineof duty death. So and broad
strokes, that is it, andit really is a really comprehensive, relatively
again strict set of criteria, andwe vet every single case. Those cases
are then presented to a sub committeemade up of our board members, the
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National Borce Officers Memorial Fund Board members, and they vote on every single case
does this meet our very high barin terms of does this person are they
worthy of being honored for all timeon? Again are very sacred walls.
The adding of a member of lawenforcement who died in the line of duty
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to this memorial. What kind ofan impact does that have on their family?
You know, I struggle I thinkto probably put that in words that
really does it justice. There issomething you know, I don't consider myself
a particularly religious guy, but whenI walk the memorial almost every single day,
I really do feel something there.I feel something. I feel the
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build up of tears that have collectedon those stones on the ground. I
feel the trees which have stood watchedover the memorial since it was commemorated in
nineteen ninety one. I feel thosenames on the wall looking back at me.
And I know for a fact thatwhen families go there, it is
something more than a cathartic experience forthem. It is something more than a
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part of the healing process. Itreally is a recognition that their loved one
was out there doing the right thingsfor the right reasons, and committed their
life and gave their life in serviceof their community. And for the family
to see that name edged on thewall, it really is impactful. I
mean beyond impactful. I struggle toput into words how meaningful it is for
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the family to see that name.And I am convinced that it is part
of the healing process, part ofthe grieving process. And I say to
families when they come out there,I hope, I really do hope that
While I I would if it wasany way for me to pull away and
reduce the grief that those families andfriends and coworkers are suffering. And I
think we talked before. I'm aretired law enforcement officer myself. I know
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more than a dozen men whose namesare on these walls. That's not quite
the same as it being a familymember, but certainly I know the feeling
of losing someonae important to your lifeto see that name. I hope that
for our part, we bring silaceto those families by saying that your loved
one will never be forgotten, Thatwe hear as the memorial exists to forever
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tell their story and remind the nationof the terrible cost of maintaining our democracy,
which again is measured every single year, and hundreds of lives of the
men and women who are out thereserving and in these cases sacrificing everything for
us. I'm Ryan Gorman, joinedby Bill Alexander, CEO of the National
Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. You canlearn more and support this organization at nl
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EOMF dot org. That's nl eomsdot org. You also put forth a
number of different awards, Officer ofthe Month, the Distinguished Service Award,
Lifetime Achievement Award tell us about those. Yeah, we try to use our
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platform in a way to highlight theoften unnoticed, the often unthanked, the
stories that men and women broadly acrossthe country are unlikely to hear, and
we try to find those stories andhighlight them in a way to show the
nation that law enforcement, despite whatI might argue is being demonized largely and
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say the popular media and so certainlysocial media, they're out there doing good
things for our community, which againare often unnoticed and nonthanks. So we
use our Officers of the awards amonth Officer of the Month awards to try
to highlight those actions. And soevery single month we find a couple of
stories. Again, there's another subcommitteemadeup of board members and they select the
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winter each month or the selecty eachmonth, and then we honored that officer
and that agency and try to tellthat story and push it out in a
meaningful way to give the public asense that law enforcement is out there doing
good. And those incidents run thegamut. They might be responding to a
crime and progress which maybe involves aserious level of danger. It could be
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an officer running into a burning homeor pulling someone from a burning car.
It could be an officer running intoa frigid lake and pulling someone out of
a lake is just one of thenominees I saw in the story the other
day. It could be an officerdoing something as simple as some sort of
community give back, some sort ofcommunity intervention. I remember one month there
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was an employee trapped inside of aconvenience store during a really heavy blizzard somewhere
out there in the Midwest, andthis officer got his own shovel out of
his own car and spent hours tryingto shovel and free this person inside the
store and give them some ability toget back out. Those are the kinds
of things that police officers are outthere doing every single day, but you
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never hear about them. So thoseare the kind of things that we try
to highlight with Officers of the Month. That's not the only award we do.
You mentioned distinguished service and lifetime achievement. We try to find those men
and women across the broad law enforcementprofession who, over the course of their
lives have contributed really in a meaningfulway to the law enforcement profession. So
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think folks like Bill Bratton think folkslike Charles Ramsey think really notable folks across
our profession. Of course, I'mstill saying even though I retired two years
ago, so I hope you won'tregard to me that. But the people
who have really given back in someway, given back to the broad law
enforcement community, given back to thecommunity that they have served, moving the
profession forward in some meaningful way,those are those awards. And finally,
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we have a third tier awards werefer to as Destination zero. Every single
year, we solicit from all departmentsacross the country send us what you think
is an innovative best practice pro somethingthat you think is moving the needle in
terms of either risks of the officersor risk to the public. And then
we have a selection committee and wepicked five or six of those from across
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the country to highlight them, Wedo really specialized videos at the awards ceremony
showcasing what the departments are doing andhow it's had an impact on the communities
that they're serving. And then weput those training programs on our website for
all of the rest of law enforcementto copy to the extent that they can,
and they're able, so again it'spart of that officer Safety and Wilness
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mission. How can we give backand how can we influence that risk needle
making it safer for men and womendoing the job. I'm Ryan Gorman,
joined by Bill Alexander, CEO ofthe National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. You
can learn more about this organization atnl EOMF dot org. Let's talk about
the museum for a moment. Andfor those who visit the museum, what
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can they expect? You know,it really is a world class museum.
Every single time I go in there, I'm just blown away at the content,
the way it's presented. It's aplace in America where right now you
really can come learn the story ofAmerican law enforcement. And for members who
are in law enforcement, I sayto them, it's a place where you
can come and really feel good aboutthe profession that you are in. You
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know, I do think that tosome degree, men and women in uniform
are having a little bit of acrisis of conscience in terms of how they
how they perceive the public perceiving them, if that makes sense. And to
walk through that museum, every singleexhibit tells a story about law enforcement where
they did the right thing where theydid something good, where they did something
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altruistic, where they gave of themselvesback to the community, and of course
lots of stories about them giving everything, sacrificing themselves to keep their community safe.
It's a place where I think Imentioned before, you really can get
a sense of how powerful even asingle police officer can be, and again
I would argue is serving their community. Of course, we also have some
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there's lots of interactive It's a greatplace for kids to learn about all things
crime scene oriented, fingerprints and bloodspatter and all of the sort of intimate
details of any specific crime scene.We have a use of force simulator where
folks can interact with some role playingpeople on a screen and really get a
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sense of how time dilates and howyou can really get some tunnel vision and
focus in on specific objects when you'refeeling some level of stress. And we
also have a driving simulator where youcan drive a mock patrol car, you
know, turn on the lights andsirens and get a sense of what that
feels like. So you know,so much to interact with. Certainly a
lot to learn, but really aplace where I think lots of Americans and
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even people internationally could come and reallyget a sense of the story of law
enforcement in a way that they verylikely have not seen and heard before.
And for those who can make itto the museum itself, there are a
number of resources tied to the museumthat they can access online. Right,
that's absolutely true, And you've ofcourse given the website n l EOMF dot
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org. They can go there andthere's lots of stuff even online, and
we're expanding that in the years ahead. We've been working with a company now
to virtualize some part of both thememorial and the museum, and we anticipate
that coming online here in the firsthalf of twenty twenty four, so they
should look for that, and youalluded to this earlier. I want to
get to the last thing for usto touch on before we get to some
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new data that you have for USanalysis of police officer deaths in twenty twenty
three. But real quick, yourOfficer Safety and Wellness program, can you
dive a little bit deeper into that, well, you know, it's again
where we try to take We startfoundationally with the data related to those line
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of duty deaths that you and Istarted talking about. Of course, we
as an organization over the long spanof our history now thirty plus years,
that data across all of those yearsreally has given us a window into the
how, where, why men andwomen in uniform are facing fatal encounters,
and so we try to use thatdata as sort of foundationally, how can
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we help develop or create or pushout a program which is having an influence
on the places and times that menand women are dying in the line of
duty. So that foundationally is usuallywhere we start. Then we're trying to
constantly think of how can we usethis data to create a program or perhaps
find a program or best practice that'sout there across the country. In part
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we do that through those Destination zeroawards I mentioned, But I often say
to people the reality is that broadlyacross the whole law enforcement profession, someone
out there has usually found maybe notthe solution, but a solution to insert
problem X. The problem is isthat there are eighteen thousand plus individual police
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agencies or public safety agencies. Justbecause let's say Los Angeles has come up
with a really innovative program that ishelping them solve problem X, that does
not immediately propagate out to all ofthe other eighteen thousand agencies, and so
for our part, we are tryingto plug the gap. We are trying
to find or create those innovative bestpractices and programs that are really influencing whatever
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the problem might be, and thenpushing those out in i mean a way,
to all of the other departments tomake sure that they know that this
knowledge is here, that someone hascome up with a solution, and more
likely than not it might work foryour local agency or your local community.
And that really is the foundational reasonfor us having an officer Safety and Wellness
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program is to find those things andor create them and push them out to
all of the police agency so theycan use the knowledge that has been accrued
not just by us, but everyonein the profession. I'm Ryan Gorman,
joined by Bill Alexander, CEO ofthe National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. You
can learn more at nl EOMS dotorg. Finally, let's get to that
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report on police officers deaths in twentytwenty three. What were some of the
more notable takeaways from that analysis.Well, the reality is that we are
we are observing for twenty twenty threewhat I would refer to as a welcome
trend. Of course we hear atthe Memorial Fund. We never like to
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use the words or turn to phrasegood news when we're reporting on even a
single police officer dying in the lineof duty. But for twenty twenty three
we are down year every year comparedto twenty twenty two and twenty twenty two,
we had two hundred and twenty fourline of duty deaths, and in
twenty twenty three we are affording onehundred and thirty six. That's a pretty
substantial drop, it's about thirty ninepercent. The reality is is that a
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bulk of that reduction is related toCOVID nineteen death so that was a significant
part of the overall reduction, goingfrom seventy four and twenty twenty two down
to five and twenty twenty three.And of course the twenty twenty two number
of seventy four was itself down substantiallyfrom twenty twenty one, where we had
hundreds of men and women dying fromCOVID. So it's great to see COVID
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dropping so dramatically in just a relativelyshort period of time. But the reality
is that all of the major categoriesthat we track are also down to think
traffic fatalities, gun fire fatalities,and we call it the other category,
which mostly tracks medical events. They'reall down across the board. The one
number that does give me pause,though, is the firearms fatalities, which
this year we're reporting is forty seven. That compares favorably to the number we
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had in twenty twenty two, whichwas sixty four. Of course, again
a very welcome trend, but thereason that that number gives me pause.
Forty seven. Of course, letme pause here, forty seven. When
I say forty seven firearms fatalities,what I'm really referring to is forty seven
men and women serving law enforcement outon our streets who were shot and ultimately
killed. Right, of course,we have a we have a word for
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that, it's murder. So Iwould argue, forty seven of the men
and women we employ to be outon the streets protecting us were murdered out
on the streets. And that's reallyso forty seven, even though it is
down from twenty twenty two, that'sa tough number to swallow. But it
also gives me pause because our friendsand partners over at the Fraternal Order Police
just released their annual report where they'rereally focused on the number of men and
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women who have been shot on thejob, not necessarily died, but shot
and for their purposes they mean actuallyshot at and struck. They're not even
counting the number of times anoser mighthave been shot at but the perpetrators missed.
Their number for twenty twenty three isthree hundred and seventy eight. Three
hundred and seventy eight police officers wereshot in twenty twenty three, and that
is by far the highest number theyhave ever reported since they began tracking that
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data. If you look particularly overthe last six years, that number has
stare stepped up every single year,now culminating in twenty twenty three being the
highest ever with three seventy eight.So it's hard for me to square that
circle with are somehow the number ofmen and women dying as a result of
gunshot is down this year, butthe number of men and women who have
actually been shot is up. Ithink there's some probable good guesses as to
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why that might be. I think, of course, medical care continues to
advance every year, single year,and certainly trauma care continues to advance.
I think the nature of ballistic resistantvests, and that technology continues to advance.
Dupot just over the last year anda half released a really innovative,
cool technology update on ballistic vests whichmakes them much lighter and much more adaptable
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to the body in terms of conformingto the body. And of course,
the heads of public safety agencies arehighly incentivized to either encourage or mandate their
officers wear such best and I thinkthat's having an impact. And finally,
of course, retiring myself, Ireally am aware that lots of departments across
the country now are issuing and trainingtheir officers and how to use really an
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advanced first aid hit. My departmentcalled it a tactical emergency care kit,
but of course there's other names andacronyms for them. But the reality is
inside that is something much greater thansay your mom's first aid kits you kept
in the back of the car withsome band aids in an a spandage.
This is a really high tech packagejob, say some blood plotting agent,
chess wound seals, tourniquits to reallystop blood flow on extremities, some really
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advanced stuff in there, which Idon't have any hard data, but I'm
just convinced hearing commandic build story thatthat is having an impact. So to
some degree, I think all threeof those factors are creating a soup where
more officers, seemingly in twenty twentythree are surviving gunshot wounds, but again
saying forty seven and saying that's downin twenty twenty two, I don't think
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is really giving people an accurate senseof how dangerous it is out on the
streets, and now, of course, I would argue increasingly dangerous compared to
years past. Bill Alexander, CEOof the National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund,
you can learn more and support thisorganization at nl EO MF dot org.
That's nl EO MF dot org.Bill, I want to thank you so
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much for the work you're doing withthe National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. Thank
you so much for coming on theshow, and please pass along our thanks
to all the members of law enforcementacross the country who you come along and
talk to, because we do appreciatethe work they're doing on the streets and
the danger that they're faced with dayin and day out. Ryan, I'm
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so incredibly thankful for you and usingyour voice and your platform to help tell
this story, to help tell thestory of the men and women who are
dying in service of us. Itmeans a lot to me personally, and
I know it means everything to everyonewho is working in the law enforcement profession
to hear you help tell the story. Thank you so much. Absolutely,
that's what we're here for. Thanksagain, Bill, that's going to do
it for this edition of iHeartRadio Communities. As we wrap things up, I
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want offer big thanks to all ofour guests and of course to all of
you for listening. I'm your host, Ryan Gorman. We'll talk to you
again real soon.
Welcome to iHeartRadio Communities, a publicaffairs special focusing on the biggest issues impacting
you. This week, here's RyanGorman. Thanks so much for joining us
here on iHeartRadio Communities. I'm RyanGorman, and we have a few very
important conversations lined up for you.In a bit, we'll check in with
the National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund totalk about the work that organization does and
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a new report on law enforcement debtsfor twenty twenty three. But first to
get things started, let me bringin my first guest. I'm joined now
by Robert Ginyard, a prostay cancersurvivor and patient advocate who was recently chair
of Zero Prostay Cancer's board of directors. He's also the host of the Intentionally
Overheard podcast. You can learn moreabout zero Prostay Cancer at zerocancer dot org.
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Robert, thank you so much forcoming on the show. And let's
begin with your personal story of overcominga prostay cancer diagnosis. Yes, well,
thank you Ryan for having me asa guest today. Ippreciate the opportunity
and sure my story starts out asa forty eight year old young man who
was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Iam now sixty one, but that diagnosis
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at forty eight took me for quitethe tailspin. I didn't have any symptoms
leading up to my prostate cancer diagnosis. Once I found out for my primary
physicition, we followed the appropriate stepsto get a second opinion. Consequently,
we did deal with the surgery,followed up by some other treatments. But
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I am happy to say that herein twenty twenty four, I am doing
well, no signs of cancer.And I was originally diagnosed in twenty ten.
And I would really chalk that up, Ryan, to a relationship with
my primary care physician, but alsothe importance of early detection, because I'm
living proof that it does save livesand extends lives in many cases. Let
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me ask you this, at thatage, was prostate cancer even on your
radar? Was that something you evereven thought about, Ryan, Not at
all. I was healthy, youknow, I went to the gym and
worked out at least three or fourdays a week, eating well. So
it was a surprise and shocked tomy system that this was even there in
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my body. And the other thingabout it, Ran, is that I
had found out years later that mydad had about a prostate cancer. But
you know, and then my dad'sfrom a different generation. Ryan, he
didn't want the family to know abouthis diagnosis because he was worried about us
and we would think that something's wrongwith him and he's going to die.
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And so he really wanted to keepthat a secret from us because he didn't
want us to endure that kind ofemotional pain. But it would have been
good to know that that was somethingthat runs through the family. And so
my advocacy work now is of courseearly detection, but also having that honest
conversation with family members to say,hey, you know your uncle had this,
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or your had this, your dadhad this, Because as soon as
we know about that, the betterwe can prepare in terms of early detection
and at least keeping it on theradar screen. So how did you end
up getting involved with this organization ZeroProstate Cancer. Well, Ryan, here's
a quick story. I got involvedwith the organization by i'd say state and
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a little bit of a mistake.My wife suggested that I go to a
run walk event that they had zerohad in my hometown of Baltimore. Ryan,
I really wasn't feeling it. Itwas a rainy morning, and I
figured that I would dodge into acoffee shop, hang out for about three
or four hours, and then gohome and tell my wife with a great
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event. But my heart would notallow me to do that. My wife
is like an investigative reporter. Shewould have tore me to shred. So
I figured, let's go to thisevent. And again it was raining,
it was cold. Ryan. Iget to the event and it was like
the heaven opened up, the suncame out, you could see a rainbow,
and here I was amongst all theseother prostate cancer survivors and their families
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and of course members of the organization. That's how I became familiar with Zero,
and I really loved their mission somuch that I wanted to get involved.
Served as a board member and theneventually became the board chair many years
later. So that's how that relationshipbegan. So I owe it really to
my wife and that cup of coffeethat I didn't have. That's an amazing
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story. I'm Ryan Gorman. Hereon IHEARDIO Communities with Robert Ginyard, the
prostate cancer survivor and patient advocate whowas recently chair of Zero Prostate Cancer's Board
of directors. You can learn moreat Zero Cancer dot Org. So tell
us about the work this organization doesand the work you did when you were
in that role. My role nowis to continue to be an advocate for
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the organization and support them in manyways that I can. My years as
the board chair, I really againtried to concentrate on research, funding and
spreading the word about advocacy and racialdisparities, and so those were my key
and core missions. And the newBoard of Director's chair, Tom Bonnano,
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has taken up that helm and doinga terrific job. So now they pushed
me out of that seat and nowI get to do some of the other
fun stuff like be a part ofthe Blue Jacket fashion show that will be
happening on February first in New York. And this fashion show that's taking place
again, like you said, Februaryfirst in New York City, this is
something that everyone can be a partof. Yes they can. Ryan.
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While the event will take place inNew York, it will be available via
live stream and so you'll get tosee many of us who really have no
player for fashion, but we've cometogether for this event to bring the fashion
industry, the media industry, andthe entertainment industry together to really bring awareness
this issue. And I talk aboutthis event being that your fashion is about
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the outward appearance, but we hopewhat we do that night, we'll focus
on the inward piece of our livesin terms of our good health and making
sure that we live the best livesthat we can for our family members.
Final question for you, how canpeople learn more about the word zero prostate
cancer does and also how can theysupport the work your organization's doing. Ryan,
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Thank you so much for that askingme that question. Your listeners can
visit zero cancer dot org. That'szero cancer dot org, and you can
find any information you want to knowabout prostate cancer, what we're doing,
what we do in terms of advocatingon the hill, in terms of more
research dollars for prostate cancer, andso you can find any and most information
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that you would like on that websitezero cancer dot org. And I'm pretty
sure there's something for everybody. Andif you're not a prostate cancer patient or
survivor you still your spouse or anybodylooking for information about prostate cancer and how
they can support the organization, youcan find all of that information on that
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website. And plus, like theevent, that you went to. You
can find events near where you live, support groups, resources, views on
the website, you'll be able tofind out different run walk events that are
occurring across the country, and wehave many of them this time of the
year. Ryan, we're really gearingup for all of these run walk series
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that typically began around March and theygo through almost until the end of the
year. So we've got a lotof champions out there in various communities across
the country, and we hope wecan bring on more. Robert Kin your
prostate cancer survivor, patient advocate andformer chair of Zero Prostate Cancer's Board of
directors, so host of the IntentionallyOverheard podcast. You can learn more about
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this organization and again support the workthey do at zero cancer dot org.
Robert, thank you so much forcoming on and sharing your story, and
thank you so much for the greatwork you're doing on this important issue.
Thank you, Ran, thank youfor having me. All right, I'm
Ryan Gorman here on iHeartRadio Communities andnow let me bring in the CEO of
the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, Bill Alexander. You can learn more
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about this organization at nl EOMF dotOrg. Bill, thank you so much
for coming on the show, andlet's start with the backstory how this organization
came about and the mission you're on. Well, we are the National Law
Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. We exist, we started existing, and I think
most people are likely aware of usfor the memorial, the National Law Enforcement
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Officers Memorial. It's the place wherewe try to honor memorialize, remember to
never forget the men and women whohave died in the broad stretch of US
history serving in some law enforcement capacity. Today, right now, we memorialize
the names of twenty three thousand,seven hundred and eighty five men and women,
and this year we are likely toadd something north of one hundred and
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fifty new names to what we view. Again, it's very safred walls.
So that is the memorial, Butof course over time, we as an
organization have grown. Right here inWashington, d C. We have a
world class museum. It is theNational Law Enforcement Officers Museum. It's the
place where we try to tell thestory of American law enforcement and it's also
a place where visitors can come andsort of metaphorically walk in the shoes of
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a man or woman in uniform andreally get a sense of how powerful even
a single police officer can be.And of course I would argue is and
the communities that they are serving.And then finally, we have a third
pillar, which we refer to asoster safety and wellness. It's the place
where in part taking some of thedata from those line of duty dusts that
ultimately end up on our sacred walls, but also us thinking about talking about
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crafting, creating, editing, andpushing out what we hope is to a
meaningful degree, programs and best practices, and an effort to make it safer
for the men and women who aredoing the jobs out on our I might
argue increasingly dangerous streets, and ofcourse, by extension, also making it
safeer for members of the public wholaw enforcement is sworn to protect. So
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that broadly is us. Let's stepthrough each of those that you highlighted,
and will begin with the memorial.Is there a criteria that's in place in
order to have a fallen member oflaw enforcement get named as part of this
memorial? There absolutely is. Wehave a relatively strict set of criteria to
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ultimately for us to decide that itis what we would refer to as a
line of duty death. So youknow, in short, basically, if
you are performing some law enforcement functionand you are employed by a law enforcement
agency, and during the course ofthat function, whatever it is that you're
doing, you are injured and subsequentlykilled as a result of that injury,
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that generally would fall in guidelines ofa line of duty death. So that
certainly includes responding to say an armrobbery or progress and the officer shot and
killed. It would include traffic fatality, So officers outside of their car,
say, directing traffic or on theside of the road, and they get
struck and killed. That we count. If they are operating a car or
a motorcycle and subsequently in a crashwhich results in their death, that would
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be a line of duty death.And then there are a number of medical
events. Probably most notably people certainlywould be aware of those who responded to
the terror attacks on nine to eleven. We're working on the recovery efforts in
New York and inhaled and adjusted andobtained some number of toxins which ultimately resulted
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in them getting cancers and other variousdiseases. The long tail of that is
playing out even now every single yearwe add plus or minus six to a
dozen folks who die related to thosethings, so those would be line of
duty deaths. And then, ofcourse there are some major medical events,
mostly heart attacks. So if anofficer is engaged in some sort of physical,
strenuous, stressful incident or struggle andthen subsequently has a heart attack or
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another medical event which results in theirdeath related to that struggle or stressful event,
we would also call that a lineof duty death. So and broad
strokes, that is it, andit really is a really comprehensive, relatively
again strict set of criteria, andwe vet every single case. Those cases
are then presented to a sub committeemade up of our board members, the
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National Borce Officers Memorial Fund Board members, and they vote on every single case
does this meet our very high barin terms of does this person are they
worthy of being honored for all timeon? Again are very sacred walls.
The adding of a member of lawenforcement who died in the line of duty
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to this memorial. What kind ofan impact does that have on their family?
You know, I struggle I thinkto probably put that in words that
really does it justice. There issomething you know, I don't consider myself
a particularly religious guy, but whenI walk the memorial almost every single day,
I really do feel something there.I feel something. I feel the
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build up of tears that have collectedon those stones on the ground. I
feel the trees which have stood watchedover the memorial since it was commemorated in
nineteen ninety one. I feel thosenames on the wall looking back at me.
And I know for a fact thatwhen families go there, it is
something more than a cathartic experience forthem. It is something more than a
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part of the healing process. Itreally is a recognition that their loved one
was out there doing the right thingsfor the right reasons, and committed their
life and gave their life in serviceof their community. And for the family
to see that name edged on thewall, it really is impactful. I
mean beyond impactful. I struggle toput into words how meaningful it is for
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the family to see that name.And I am convinced that it is part
of the healing process, part ofthe grieving process. And I say to
families when they come out there,I hope, I really do hope that
While I I would if it wasany way for me to pull away and
reduce the grief that those families andfriends and coworkers are suffering. And I
think we talked before. I'm aretired law enforcement officer myself. I know
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more than a dozen men whose namesare on these walls. That's not quite
the same as it being a familymember, but certainly I know the feeling
of losing someonae important to your lifeto see that name. I hope that
for our part, we bring silaceto those families by saying that your loved
one will never be forgotten, Thatwe hear as the memorial exists to forever
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tell their story and remind the nationof the terrible cost of maintaining our democracy,
which again is measured every single year, and hundreds of lives of the
men and women who are out thereserving and in these cases sacrificing everything for
us. I'm Ryan Gorman, joinedby Bill Alexander, CEO of the National
Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. You canlearn more and support this organization at nl
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EOMF dot org. That's nl eomsdot org. You also put forth a
number of different awards, Officer ofthe Month, the Distinguished Service Award,
Lifetime Achievement Award tell us about those. Yeah, we try to use our
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platform in a way to highlight theoften unnoticed, the often unthanked, the
stories that men and women broadly acrossthe country are unlikely to hear, and
we try to find those stories andhighlight them in a way to show the
nation that law enforcement, despite whatI might argue is being demonized largely and
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say the popular media and so certainlysocial media, they're out there doing good
things for our community, which againare often unnoticed and nonthanks. So we
use our Officers of the awards amonth Officer of the Month awards to try
to highlight those actions. And soevery single month we find a couple of
stories. Again, there's another subcommitteemadeup of board members and they select the
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winter each month or the selecty eachmonth, and then we honored that officer
and that agency and try to tellthat story and push it out in a
meaningful way to give the public asense that law enforcement is out there doing
good. And those incidents run thegamut. They might be responding to a
crime and progress which maybe involves aserious level of danger. It could be
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an officer running into a burning homeor pulling someone from a burning car.
It could be an officer running intoa frigid lake and pulling someone out of
a lake is just one of thenominees I saw in the story the other
day. It could be an officerdoing something as simple as some sort of
community give back, some sort ofcommunity intervention. I remember one month there
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was an employee trapped inside of aconvenience store during a really heavy blizzard somewhere
out there in the Midwest, andthis officer got his own shovel out of
his own car and spent hours tryingto shovel and free this person inside the
store and give them some ability toget back out. Those are the kinds
of things that police officers are outthere doing every single day, but you
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never hear about them. So thoseare the kind of things that we try
to highlight with Officers of the Month. That's not the only award we do.
You mentioned distinguished service and lifetime achievement. We try to find those men
and women across the broad law enforcementprofession who, over the course of their
lives have contributed really in a meaningfulway to the law enforcement profession. So
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think folks like Bill Bratton think folkslike Charles Ramsey think really notable folks across
our profession. Of course, I'mstill saying even though I retired two years
ago, so I hope you won'tregard to me that. But the people
who have really given back in someway, given back to the broad law
enforcement community, given back to thecommunity that they have served, moving the
profession forward in some meaningful way,those are those awards. And finally,
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we have a third tier awards werefer to as Destination zero. Every single
year, we solicit from all departmentsacross the country send us what you think
is an innovative best practice pro somethingthat you think is moving the needle in
terms of either risks of the officersor risk to the public. And then
we have a selection committee and wepicked five or six of those from across
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the country to highlight them, Wedo really specialized videos at the awards ceremony
showcasing what the departments are doing andhow it's had an impact on the communities
that they're serving. And then weput those training programs on our website for
all of the rest of law enforcementto copy to the extent that they can,
and they're able, so again it'spart of that officer Safety and Wilness
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mission. How can we give backand how can we influence that risk needle
making it safer for men and womendoing the job. I'm Ryan Gorman,
joined by Bill Alexander, CEO ofthe National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. You
can learn more about this organization atnl EOMF dot org. Let's talk about
the museum for a moment. Andfor those who visit the museum, what
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can they expect? You know,it really is a world class museum.
Every single time I go in there, I'm just blown away at the content,
the way it's presented. It's aplace in America where right now you
really can come learn the story ofAmerican law enforcement. And for members who
are in law enforcement, I sayto them, it's a place where you
can come and really feel good aboutthe profession that you are in. You
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know, I do think that tosome degree, men and women in uniform
are having a little bit of acrisis of conscience in terms of how they
how they perceive the public perceiving them, if that makes sense. And to
walk through that museum, every singleexhibit tells a story about law enforcement where
they did the right thing where theydid something good, where they did something
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altruistic, where they gave of themselvesback to the community, and of course
lots of stories about them giving everything, sacrificing themselves to keep their community safe.
It's a place where I think Imentioned before, you really can get
a sense of how powerful even asingle police officer can be, and again
I would argue is serving their community. Of course, we also have some
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there's lots of interactive It's a greatplace for kids to learn about all things
crime scene oriented, fingerprints and bloodspatter and all of the sort of intimate
details of any specific crime scene.We have a use of force simulator where
folks can interact with some role playingpeople on a screen and really get a
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sense of how time dilates and howyou can really get some tunnel vision and
focus in on specific objects when you'refeeling some level of stress. And we
also have a driving simulator where youcan drive a mock patrol car, you
know, turn on the lights andsirens and get a sense of what that
feels like. So you know,so much to interact with. Certainly a
lot to learn, but really aplace where I think lots of Americans and
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even people internationally could come and reallyget a sense of the story of law
enforcement in a way that they verylikely have not seen and heard before.
And for those who can make itto the museum itself, there are a
number of resources tied to the museumthat they can access online. Right,
that's absolutely true, And you've ofcourse given the website n l EOMF dot
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org. They can go there andthere's lots of stuff even online, and
we're expanding that in the years ahead. We've been working with a company now
to virtualize some part of both thememorial and the museum, and we anticipate
that coming online here in the firsthalf of twenty twenty four, so they
should look for that, and youalluded to this earlier. I want to
get to the last thing for usto touch on before we get to some
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new data that you have for USanalysis of police officer deaths in twenty twenty
three. But real quick, yourOfficer Safety and Wellness program, can you
dive a little bit deeper into that, well, you know, it's again
where we try to take We startfoundationally with the data related to those line
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of duty deaths that you and Istarted talking about. Of course, we
as an organization over the long spanof our history now thirty plus years,
that data across all of those yearsreally has given us a window into the
how, where, why men andwomen in uniform are facing fatal encounters,
and so we try to use thatdata as sort of foundationally, how can
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we help develop or create or pushout a program which is having an influence
on the places and times that menand women are dying in the line of
duty. So that foundationally is usuallywhere we start. Then we're trying to
constantly think of how can we usethis data to create a program or perhaps
find a program or best practice that'sout there across the country. In part
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we do that through those Destination zeroawards I mentioned, But I often say
to people the reality is that broadlyacross the whole law enforcement profession, someone
out there has usually found maybe notthe solution, but a solution to insert
problem X. The problem is isthat there are eighteen thousand plus individual police
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agencies or public safety agencies. Justbecause let's say Los Angeles has come up
with a really innovative program that ishelping them solve problem X, that does
not immediately propagate out to all ofthe other eighteen thousand agencies, and so
for our part, we are tryingto plug the gap. We are trying
to find or create those innovative bestpractices and programs that are really influencing whatever
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the problem might be, and thenpushing those out in i mean a way,
to all of the other departments tomake sure that they know that this
knowledge is here, that someone hascome up with a solution, and more
likely than not it might work foryour local agency or your local community.
And that really is the foundational reasonfor us having an officer Safety and Wellness
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program is to find those things andor create them and push them out to
all of the police agency so theycan use the knowledge that has been accrued
not just by us, but everyonein the profession. I'm Ryan Gorman,
joined by Bill Alexander, CEO ofthe National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. You
can learn more at nl EOMS dotorg. Finally, let's get to that
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report on police officers deaths in twentytwenty three. What were some of the
more notable takeaways from that analysis.Well, the reality is that we are
we are observing for twenty twenty threewhat I would refer to as a welcome
trend. Of course we hear atthe Memorial Fund. We never like to
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use the words or turn to phrasegood news when we're reporting on even a
single police officer dying in the lineof duty. But for twenty twenty three
we are down year every year comparedto twenty twenty two and twenty twenty two,
we had two hundred and twenty fourline of duty deaths, and in
twenty twenty three we are affording onehundred and thirty six. That's a pretty
substantial drop, it's about thirty ninepercent. The reality is is that a
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bulk of that reduction is related toCOVID nineteen death so that was a significant
part of the overall reduction, goingfrom seventy four and twenty twenty two down
to five and twenty twenty three.And of course the twenty twenty two number
of seventy four was itself down substantiallyfrom twenty twenty one, where we had
hundreds of men and women dying fromCOVID. So it's great to see COVID
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dropping so dramatically in just a relativelyshort period of time. But the reality
is that all of the major categoriesthat we track are also down to think
traffic fatalities, gun fire fatalities,and we call it the other category,
which mostly tracks medical events. They'reall down across the board. The one
number that does give me pause,though, is the firearms fatalities, which
this year we're reporting is forty seven. That compares favorably to the number we
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had in twenty twenty two, whichwas sixty four. Of course, again
a very welcome trend, but thereason that that number gives me pause.
Forty seven. Of course, letme pause here, forty seven. When
I say forty seven firearms fatalities,what I'm really referring to is forty seven
men and women serving law enforcement outon our streets who were shot and ultimately
killed. Right, of course,we have a we have a word for
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that, it's murder. So Iwould argue, forty seven of the men
and women we employ to be outon the streets protecting us were murdered out
on the streets. And that's reallyso forty seven, even though it is
down from twenty twenty two, that'sa tough number to swallow. But it
also gives me pause because our friendsand partners over at the Fraternal Order Police
just released their annual report where they'rereally focused on the number of men and
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women who have been shot on thejob, not necessarily died, but shot
and for their purposes they mean actuallyshot at and struck. They're not even
counting the number of times anoser mighthave been shot at but the perpetrators missed.
Their number for twenty twenty three isthree hundred and seventy eight. Three
hundred and seventy eight police officers wereshot in twenty twenty three, and that
is by far the highest number theyhave ever reported since they began tracking that
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data. If you look particularly overthe last six years, that number has
stare stepped up every single year,now culminating in twenty twenty three being the
highest ever with three seventy eight.So it's hard for me to square that
circle with are somehow the number ofmen and women dying as a result of
gunshot is down this year, butthe number of men and women who have
actually been shot is up. Ithink there's some probable good guesses as to
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why that might be. I think, of course, medical care continues to
advance every year, single year,and certainly trauma care continues to advance.
I think the nature of ballistic resistantvests, and that technology continues to advance.
Dupot just over the last year anda half released a really innovative,
cool technology update on ballistic vests whichmakes them much lighter and much more adaptable
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to the body in terms of conformingto the body. And of course,
the heads of public safety agencies arehighly incentivized to either encourage or mandate their
officers wear such best and I thinkthat's having an impact. And finally,
of course, retiring myself, Ireally am aware that lots of departments across
the country now are issuing and trainingtheir officers and how to use really an
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advanced first aid hit. My departmentcalled it a tactical emergency care kit,
but of course there's other names andacronyms for them. But the reality is
inside that is something much greater thansay your mom's first aid kits you kept
in the back of the car withsome band aids in an a spandage.
This is a really high tech packagejob, say some blood plotting agent,
chess wound seals, tourniquits to reallystop blood flow on extremities, some really
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advanced stuff in there, which Idon't have any hard data, but I'm
just convinced hearing commandic build story thatthat is having an impact. So to
some degree, I think all threeof those factors are creating a soup where
more officers, seemingly in twenty twentythree are surviving gunshot wounds, but again
saying forty seven and saying that's downin twenty twenty two, I don't think
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is really giving people an accurate senseof how dangerous it is out on the
streets, and now, of course, I would argue increasingly dangerous compared to
years past. Bill Alexander, CEOof the National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund,
you can learn more and support thisorganization at nl EO MF dot org.
That's nl EO MF dot org.Bill, I want to thank you so
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much for the work you're doing withthe National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. Thank
you so much for coming on theshow, and please pass along our thanks
to all the members of law enforcementacross the country who you come along and
talk to, because we do appreciatethe work they're doing on the streets and
the danger that they're faced with dayin and day out. Ryan, I'm
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so incredibly thankful for you and usingyour voice and your platform to help tell
this story, to help tell thestory of the men and women who are
dying in service of us. Itmeans a lot to me personally, and
I know it means everything to everyonewho is working in the law enforcement profession
to hear you help tell the story. Thank you so much. Absolutely,
that's what we're here for. Thanksagain, Bill, that's going to do
it for this edition of iHeartRadio Communities. As we wrap things up, I
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want offer big thanks to all ofour guests and of course to all of
you for listening. I'm your host, Ryan Gorman. We'll talk to you
again real soon.
Host
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.