10-5-25 - October Deer Hunting Strategies and Fish Opportunities

On tonight's show, Jim and Scott talk about October deer hunting strategies and October fish opportunities.  

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good evening, everybody. Jim Straighter here with my co host
Scott Cronan, and folks, I gotta tell you, I never
feel more alive than I do in October. Everybody that's
listened to me through the years realizes that I'm always
saying and I call it October, and the reason I

(01:22):
do is it is rocking and this month is coming
in a little slowly with a weird weather pattern like
we've had all throughout the spring and summer period this year.
Scott Croner, I think we can both agree, and I
think everyone will agree this has been the weirdest weather

(01:44):
year I believe I've ever seen. And I go back
a long way the old timers that I talk to,
and I guess it's appropriate for me to refer to
myself as an old timer at this point in life.
I've never seen like we had rain, rain, rain, rain, flooding,

(02:06):
unusual weird temperatures, drought, serious drought which is gripped much
of the region. And now we're in early October and
it still feels like it's July. In the evenings, it doesn't.

(02:27):
But in the day, if you're out in the sun,
you know, when you're in the mid to upper eighties,
it's hot. Doesn't matter how you cut it. But the
best news is the best is yet to come. And Scott,
you and I have talked about this a lot. I
think mother Nature is getting ready to hit the reset button,
and man, are we ready for it.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
The only thing that's going to be hotter than what
the weather's been is going to be the fishing in
the white tail hunting, and it's right here upon us.
It's not weeks out, it's just a few days away.
It's setting up to be a phenomenal weather pattern for
folks to get out with archery equipment. It's gonna be
good for our youth hunters. And we can only cross

(03:10):
our fingers hoping that with the upcoming muzzleloder season in
Kentucky that maybe Jim, we can roll with the dice
and get another good weekend. With the muzzloder weekend, it's
going to be intertwined with the new regulated youth season.
A lot of these young kids are going to have
the opportunity not just to get out for a day
or two, They're going to have an extended period of time.

(03:34):
It's going to cross two weekends, so if the weather's
not right on one particular day, it's going to be
right over one of those days, and I think we're
going to see probably the best youth harvest that we've
ever seen in the state of Kentucky this year.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
The stage certainly seems to be said, and our job
denying has helped folks to understand how to best capitalize
on these situations, and we're prepared to do it. We've
talked to folks all around the surround the area about
what they're seeing about the harvest of crops, how it's going,

(04:09):
how the acings are starting to drop, how the fish
are starting to bite. We've done our homework, and Scott,
I'm about as excited tonight about what we're gonna share
as we've been in a long long time because we're
gonna bust out. I mean, it's time and October such
a special month. I mean, it doesn't matter what your

(04:32):
proclivities are. If you like to just hike, it's a
great month to do that. If you like to fish,
it is game on. If you like the deer hunt,
you got a bunch of options. If you like to
get a kid out and get them enjoying the sport
for the first time, whether it's squirrel hunting or deer hunting,
you've got the opportunity to do that. Dove hunting is

(04:52):
still in play. There's just so many things to enjoy.
And when you combine that with the splendor that the
Good Lord created in this middle to the latter part
of October, it's gonna be special. When you know, Scott,
you and I talk about these things a lot because

(05:13):
we're so like binded. We were a little afraid that
there wasn't gonna be the fall color, that it was
going to get stolen from us. And while some of
it undoubtedly will be, on the other hand, when it hits.
Now that we've had a little bit of rain and
not all the reasons got it, you didn't get as

(05:34):
much as we did, for example, up in the northern
part of Kentucky and some of the eastern parts, the
western parts still dry. But having said that, once this
cool weather hits and these maples sugar up and provide
the food for the deer. For example, you know a
lot of people don't understand deer love to eat maple

(05:56):
leaves in the fall. Why because they sugar up. That's
what causes that color. And man, that's gonna be an
awesome thing to enjoy it. So I just I'm like
a little kid in the candy store this time of year.
I love to fish. I love to hunt deer, I
love to hunt squirrels, love the hut doves. I see

(06:17):
this all the time. I'm kind of like the hash
browns at the waffle house. I'm scattered to smothers.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, what's really good about it, Jim, is instead of
things being so consistent, things are going to be crazy.
But they're going to be crazy in such a good
way because so many different patterns work on the water
and in the woods this time of year for multiple species.
It's a good time of year to get out and
do some squirrel hunting and get some scalping in on

(06:46):
some pieces of property that you may not be putting
all your eggs in one basket yet, but you can
still stay up to date on sign. And it's as
far as fishing goes, you know, if you work your
time right, you can get a little bit of activity
on the water with the morning top water in the
afternoon bite. But as these temperatures drop down, and what

(07:08):
we're talking about is some sixties and forties over the
next few days, and we've got so many young people too,
school teachers and others that are out because of the
fall break, which is kind of a normal thing. You
were talking a little bit about being an old timer there.
This fall break deal puts a lot of time in

(07:29):
people's hands, and we're right in the middle of it.
And if folks can get out and capitalize on it,
they're not going to have any problems having fun with
some of this crazy madness at the fish and the
wildlife are going to bless us, with.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
No question about it in that regard. I'm gonna go
to break here, but coming back from break, Scott, are
gonna break this down in ways that I think will
really be an asset to you folks in this time change,
in this heaving is how a school change and this
huge weather event that's going to do a reset, and

(08:06):
we've been ready for reset for a very very long
time now, and hopefully things will get back to more
normal pattern. But either way, once these cooler temperatures hit,
the fish are ready, the deer ready, the squirrels are ready.
You know, everything in nature understands through instinct what's coming,

(08:28):
and we're gonna hopefully teach you how to capitalize on
that in ways that will make perfect sense. So we're
gonna break it down as best we can. Now. If
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talking about the weather and what's coming. Let's break that

(10:17):
down a little bit because these temperatures are going to
drop dramatically, and I've been a little surprised. I think
all of us have that are paid attention to water
temperatures versus the air temperatures, and the fact that the
water temperatures are still in the umber seventies or even

(10:39):
eighty degrees at a lot of the major lakes around
the region. And the reason that's a surprise for me
on a personal basis because the nights are longer and
it's been down in the fifties at night, but the
higher air temperatures, which are uncharacteristic, have not allowed these

(11:01):
big soup bowls, that's what I call the bigger lakes
time to cool off. But with what's coming next, it's
gonna be a very dramatic change, and as it comes,
it'll be an incremental situation that's really good for the fishing,

(11:22):
and it's gonna affect the animals in a dramatic way,
very very quickly, Scott, I know you got a lot
of thoughts about that. I'm gonna let you run.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, what's happening right now, whether the temperatures up or
down in the air of the water, is we're losing
hours of daylight, not just minutes. We're substantially way behind
now as far as what animal activity could have been
done with daylight hours versus what's being done nocturnally. In
all of these critters that we try to catch or

(11:54):
we try to hunt, some things are happening too. You've
got certain animals that are beginning to start looking at
how they're going to ramp up their metabolism to feed
very heavily because their body's naturally going to slow down
when this cooler water gets here. Plus, you've got animals
that have to put weight on their body. It's no

(12:17):
different than somebody preparing to getting ready to go on
a hunt out west. That these these animals, where a
human would train in condition to get ready to maybe
go up and down in elevation, the animals are going
to pack on the weight so that they can get
through some of the toughest months of the year. And
then you throw in the reproductive cycle amongst that with

(12:41):
a lot of the deer and activity, and of course
squirrels a little bit later on in the year. But
what that does is it just gets things ramped up
to where it's a it's survival and reproduction, and when
that becomes what's on the table, so many different things
can be to your advantage. To understand why you constantly

(13:04):
have to be a student of the game when it
comes to Mother Nature, because those fish and those deer
are not going to necessarily do exactly what you want
to do on Saturday and Sunday, and it makes it
tough if you're just a weekend warrior and can only
get out there, because we're talking about things changing by

(13:24):
the minute, by the hour, and it can be right
after a storm or right after a front comes through,
and as these parametric pressures go up and down, so
does the activity on the fishing and the hunting. So
it's just understanding what happens in order to put the
chances or the odds in your favor, and if you

(13:46):
have the ability to look at the weather, and you
have the ability to put in your time scouting, whether
that's utilizing so and ar on your boat or getting
out there with some boot leather and putting it down
on the ground to start seeing how the woods are changing.
Your scouting will pay off, and October is a perfect

(14:07):
time for you to make mental notes of what's going on.
But you have to be able to capitalize really fast, Jim,
because when it gets here, it's here, and it doesn't
matter if it's scrape starting to open up or one
particular scrape where your buddy may not be having any activity.
You may have a spot on your farm that is

(14:28):
just absolute dynamite. Same way with the fish. You may
hear a report of somebody getting out there and really
tearing up some fish on top water from yesterday, and
then you go the next day and it's already changed drastically.
So even though things get into a pattern of a
wicked pace and fast and furious, they come and go

(14:51):
and they're real spurty. So that's kind of the main
reason to keep that focus on that weather and see
which day those tempertures are fluctuating eight nine, ten degrees,
and really pay attention to your wind direction because everything
now is going to be capitalizing, not only on those
big north fronts. People got to remember that whenever those

(15:12):
big south fronts push back, and they do, it's kind
of a bipolar effect on what's going on with the weather.
Those fish and wildlife, those animals they move and they
do their thing both on the front of the weather system,
during the weather system and at the end of it.
So it's good to have things change up and not

(15:32):
to be so stagnant.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
It really is. And again, this change is going to
be a little more dramatic than in my estimation. We
normally see why because it's been a dagon hot and
dry for so long. I mean, if you think about it,
we went from arguably early to mid July all the

(15:57):
way up through September. It's just been hot, in many cases,
extremely dry, and unusual conditions that are not normal. I
don't know how else to say it. They're just abnormal.
And the farmers have seen it, the fishermen have seen it,

(16:19):
the deer hunters have seen it. You know, you go
all the way across the board. If you've been out
and involved in it, you've got to realize it's been weird.
But that's the reason I keep returning to this statement
that I'm making. I think we're getting ready to see
the reset, and the reset is gonna be really good

(16:42):
if folks need to capitalize on it in this short
window that we're gonna have, because it's gonna be shorter
than normal. Let's look at that objectively. Normally, by this
time of year, you've got weed die back that's major
league in most of the areas and lakes that they

(17:02):
have weeds, not so much this time. You've got thermoclines
that existed that are starting to abate, turnovers started not
this time. You've got situations that are just very, very unusual.
But the cool thing about it is, and this is

(17:22):
what we're going to point at tonight, here's what's getting
ready to happen, and when it does, if you're ready,
it's going to really be favorable to you. If you
know how to interpret it, if you understand how to
capitalize on it, it's going to be special.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's going to be real special for the folks that
are going to be able to capitalize hunting that eighteenth
and nineteenth of October, because we're coming in right now
on the full moon, which will hit actually this Tuesday
on the seventh, and when you start looking at how
that's going to play into effect and how the weather
patterns are setting up up what folks are going to

(18:01):
be able to do. They're going to be able to
capitalize not only on the deer starting to get up
and stay on their feet a little bit longer because
of the cool temperatures. We're also going to be looking
at that moon pattern, which I don't know if you've
paid much attention to this gym, but there's several folks
out there now that are trying to say that wildlife
is not influenced by moon, moon cycles and moon patterns,

(18:26):
and I can't. I can't get on that bus because
I'm a big believer that how the moon rises and
sets and what's going on with the atmosphere up there
is a big reason on how certain folks become quote
unquote experts or consistent at how they catch fish or
how they put game into the freezer. But we've we've

(18:50):
hit some years there where the use season and the
muzzloder season has been during the full moon and some
hot temperatures, and that's not the that's not the scenario
we have right now, so this deer activity is definitely
gonna you know, it's gonna fire up. We're gonna see
where fishing's gonna get better. And if you can put

(19:11):
your lure on top of the water and get just
into that cover where these acrons are dropping, and there's
a little sign you're gonna fill some tags, you.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Better believe it. To your statement about that moon and
how it affects things. I wrote about that fifty years ago.
That's five zero. I've talked about it on radio more
than forty years. And here's what I'm gonna tell you.
If you don't pay attention to the moon, you're losing

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a big part of what goes on around here. And
here's how I always like to say it. If the
moon can pull the Pacific Ocean, the Pacific Ocean twenty
six feet on a tide, and you don't think it
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eight hundred four four four eighty four eighty four, And
tonight we're gonna talk to you about a lot of things.
We're gonna talk about late plannings for food plots. I
know a lot of you've had food plots that you
planted that failed because of the drought. We're gonna talk
about fish activity, and we're going to talk about all

(20:44):
the things that are developing in terms of the deer season,
squirrel season. We're gonna kind of go full circle here.
But first Scott, the big things on the horizon right
now are this cool front coming and we've got archery
used and muzzle order to talk about. So let's dive

(21:04):
in there.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, anybody that's wanting to get out this week and
has the availability to get out, it looks like Wednesday, Thursday,
and Friday could just really be phenomenal, especially on Thursday
night with how the front's coming in, and for folks
that are trying to get out there with crossbow or compound,

(21:26):
recurve whatever, archery equipment is still very effective and I
look for a lot of these bigger deer that folks
have kind of lost on our trail cameras to start
showing themselves, Jim, and it's time for us as hunters
to be in our ground blinds or doing a little
bit of hunting from an elevated position so that we

(21:48):
can actually be the camera up in the tree. That's
how we used to get stuff done, was we would
actually get out and hunt and maybe stay back just
a little bit and not get so aggressive. And there's
gonna be some potential where some folks are gonna get
an arrow in a deer especially, and a lot of
these bottleneck areas and pinch points where bucks are just

(22:09):
kinda they're gonna get up and they're just gonna kind
of move around. They're gonna they're gonna see what field
they're getting ready to play on. Bucks are gonna start
moving off of summer food patterns and agricultural food sources.
So we're gonna have a little bit of love in
the air and we're gonna have a little bit of
fighting in the air. And when these pheromones start to
release a little bit and testosterone starts going up, and

(22:33):
daylight starts getting shorter, and acrons start hitting the ground.
It's a really good time to find yourself somewhere with
archery equipment where there's some scrubby brush, but you have
some openings and some acrons around where it pinches deer
down to basically where they're just gonna have to filter
value within traditional archery range. Because make no joke about

(22:56):
what's happening with this weather. If you're at it, remember
that the deer are going to be excited about it
as well. Most of these deer have been well into
their fall coat. They've come out of that summer feeding
pattern and they've kind of been sitting tight. They've been
getting riled up a little bit. Some of the bucks
have been killed this week. You can even tell that

(23:19):
their necks are starting to put on a little bit
of swelling, and that's only going to get more and
more and more consistent as these bucks start getting up
and moving out of their beds. What's your opinion, Jim
on what these deer are going to do on.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
This front, Well, they're definitely going to get more active.
I think your point that you made about when you
feel good, they feel good is spot on. I can't
remember exactly what it was, but it was more than
thirty years ago. One of my favorite outdoor deer riders said,

(23:53):
when the weather suits you, it's really good for white
tailed deer, and there's a lot of truth to that. Now,
there's other sides of it. You know, harsh weather tends
to put them on the feedbag and makes them do
this or that. But generally speaking, deer are most active
on a daily basis when they feel good, when the

(24:14):
conditions are good. Guess what. That's what's coming. So that's
what you're looking at. And the thing that how can
I say this in a succinct way. The things you
have to remember is you go through a white tail
deer's life cycle or that they're pretty predictable on average

(24:38):
if you're smart enough to capitalize on it. And the
things to capitalize on right now are these changes that
they're gonna take advantage of. Number One, you touched on it,
the acorn drop. The acorn drop is now it started.

(24:59):
It's been slow, but it's started. And this is about
the time, despite all this weird weather that we normally
see this and because of that, you got to take
advantage of it. You got to understand it, you got
to scout it, you asked me. One of the number
one things I think people need to think about right now.
This is gonna be a controversial statement. I don't care.

(25:23):
I don't care about saying it. If you're totally reliant
on trail cameras right now, you're gonna miss the boat.
Why do I say that, because most folks put those
trail cameras around corn piles or obvious places the deer
move during this earlier time of year. Now we're transitioning,

(25:48):
and then to transition, the deer moved totally different than
they had before. You're gonna see, for example, on a camera,
deer you haven't seen before. But you're also going to
see a decline in activity that you thought was consistent.

(26:08):
What I mean by that, there's gonna be bucks moving
around now looking for dole units, seeking new areas to
feed keen on anchors where they're gonna take you away
from those cameras. Anybody that doesn't believe that, in my mind,
is fooling themselves. Those your thoughts are down.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, those bucks are going to be scouting for sign
of dough groups, just like we scout for sign of
their rubs and scrapes. And what mass is dropping. And
what will happen this week with a lot of people,
because unfortunately they'll be at work, is they're gonna start
getting notifications that their cameras are picking up pictures of

(26:52):
bigger deer, deer they haven't seen in a few weeks.
And a lot of it's gonna be during daylight hours.
It's you're gonna see where these will kind of get out.
And of course the young bucks as well and dose
are going to feed a little bit heavier. And we
got to remember too that as the temperature drops, these
deer needs more calories. I mean, that's what's keeping them alive.

(27:14):
So if the temperature drops are automatically going to have
to feed earlier because they're going to have to have
more caloric intake. It's a nutritional thing that Mother Nature
is pretty much programmed them for. And we're smart enough
to have a ten day forecast. But don't think for
one second that they don't have a built in chip
too on how they need to go about and how
they need to function. And don't overlook the fact that

(27:37):
a lot of these bucks will be traveling on patterns
too that will be on the down wind side of
where a lot of these doe betting groups are, they'll
be on the down wind side of where a lot
of these feed areas are. And it's not always about
the fact of where the rut is at. What this

(27:57):
does a lot of times is these deer is a
integrate and they move into new areas. They'll utilize that
down wind side to make them aware of anything that
could be a thread or alarming to them. Of course,
not every buck's gonna go walking to an area looking
for a fight. Some are gonna be a little bit
more calm, cool and collective, and deer have personalities just

(28:20):
like people do. So be smart about how you do things,
and don't be afraid to start understanding that as these
temperatures drop and as these winds come in, one of
the greatest things that you can take advantage of is
to use some of this wind cover. Like, for example,
there's Wednesday of this week we've got about an eleven

(28:41):
mile hour wind, and then Thursday we've got about a
nine million our wind. Use that wind to help keep
your scent consistent. But the most important thing about that
is use that wind so that you can get into
those areas with your access where the deer don't hear
you coming. That's the biggest thing that people overlook as

(29:01):
they're entry in their exit and with this wind being consistent,
don't be afraid to grind for two or three days
in a row. If you've got the gut feeling that
that is a deer area, like you just feel it,
you just know it. It looks deary, It can have
all the potential in the world. Don't give up on
it on just one set. Get in there and grind.

(29:23):
Realize it's not the rut, but it's kind of like
anything else. It's just going to be a good pre party.
And naturally, as these hormones and as the food sources
are changing, it puts everything into the advantage to put
an arrow through a great deer. And don't short this either.

(29:44):
Over the years, the improvements with the crossbow have taken
a lot away from how important the U season is
and how important the early muzzleloder season is. There's gonna
be a lot of folks out in the woods. Don't
think for two seconds there won't be. And there'll be
a lot of folks that have been waiting on this

(30:05):
weather as well to get out and do some squirrel hunting.
Because they've been waiting for some nice, cooler days, and
the more people get out, the more these deer are
gonna get pushed. And it just makes it even more
of a consistent reason to hunt these areas that deer
are going to funnel, escape and move through for various reasons.

(30:25):
If you can put two or three major reasons why
a deer would come through this area or this pinch
point are travel in and out of this particular ridge
or bottom. The more bullet points you can hit on
why a deer would move through there, bucks and those,
the better chance you've got of putting that arrol back
into the ground with some red blood on it.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
That is a great point. I'm gonna throw something in here.
It's something I've used for years. I've never talked about
much on the radio, but several friends of mine and
I during the archery phase like from now moving forward,
utilize all the time to cover that intrusion. Crunch crunch

(31:08):
crunch that you you know tell us tends to tell
deer there's a human coming is a turkey call. And Scott,
I know you do this. I've never I don't think
I've ever asked you about this, but I bet one
hundred dollars, you've utilized it. I use a turkey, call
pe keys, yelps, et cetera, to move to my stands

(31:33):
during this archery period leading from now up to gun season,
to cover my intrusion noise into the areas that I'm hunting.
It is a no brainer because why because turkeys walk
with two feet just like a human. Their cadence and
walk is very much like a human. When you add

(31:55):
that sound of oh wow, that's all. No, it's not.
It's just a turkey to a deer. You fooled it.
That's a I'm telling you folks, that's a that's a
really good thing to have in your arsenal things. You
used a full of deer this time of year, when

(32:16):
it's crunch crunch, crunchy, the leaves are starting to fall,
it's dry out. You can full of deer that way.
Remember Jimbo said, all right, folks, got to go to
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with friends at SMI Hey Scott. In the second hour,

(32:41):
we're gonna talk a lot about setups and how people
can capitalize on, you know, some of these changes for
the U season and archery and mussle order. But let's
close out this hour with the importance of the calendar,
the moon and what this means too deer, because this

(33:05):
is a big, big transitional situation.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Well, it's the most important time for folks that really
want to capitalize on hunting with archery equipment, getting youth
out and then some of the specialty weapons like muscle orders.
Before just everything kind of gets thrown to the wayside
of the craziness of the rut. And there's more opportunity

(33:35):
in October than what most people realize because social media
and the world of podcasts have made it really popular
to talk about something that needs to be bunked out
a little bit, and that's the October lull. And where
that really got into a big negative from my opinion,

(34:00):
is so many people started hunting deer primarily on agricultural
food sources because that's what made good TV, or that's
what was easier to videotape than deer moving through thicker cover.
You have to realize that this time of year you're

(34:20):
going to be bumping deer, that it would be perfect
if we didn't. But as all of this food and
all of this weather starts to come into effect, if
you're not bumping deer, you're not where the deer want
to be. Now, is that Are we encouraging you to
do that? No, But all of this bumping, dump and
different things that people want to create a strategy with,

(34:43):
it can work. And it's not uncommon like for me
Jim to go into the woods with a tree stand
on my bike or my saddle gear, just walk with
my bowl and I may be walking and hunting and
it's a big scouting trip and I may not capitalize
on a hunt is what is known as a traditional hunt,
where you know, I get up in a tree and

(35:04):
I sit there for three or four hours. I'm just
moving and because you've got to You've got to keep
yourself fresh, you got to know what's going on. You
got to know when to strike, because it's just like
the World Series with October, everything can change all at once,
and what you think is predictable may not be so predictable.

(35:25):
I mean, these deer are no different than these teams
that are getting ready to be in the playoffs and
and make their way to the World Series. You can
have all the experts in the world that think that
they know the statistics and the data, but sometimes the
underdog wins. And anytime that you can look back on
your hunting career and realize that there were certain things

(35:46):
that you did predicting certain things you didn't predict, and
you had good outcomes from both of them, you should
probably try to share that information with folks. And that's
all we're trying to do. We're not trying to consider
ourselves experts. We're not trying to say it's only going
to work this way, or if you follow my way,
you know you'll be able to get it done. We're
just trying to share with you what we know is

(36:08):
going to work and what's going to work this week,
jem is if you put the time in, you're going
to have a high potential of getting a shot at
a really good buck. And if you want to get
out there and shoot some nose, the temperatures are finally
getting to the point you can do so well.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I want to put an aim in on something you
said that October lull situation was a whole lot of
people that didn't have enough years in the woods trying
to come up with some different wrinkle they could talk
about to sound like they were smart. You know what
the October law really is. You were sitting on your

(36:46):
butt on a couch, not getting out in the woods,
learning what was happening, and capitalizing on what we're deer doing.
When you capitalize on what deer doing, you callut them
every day. It's just a matter matching it up. All right, folks,
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(37:09):
A r T Realty dot com. Got with youth season
in Kentucky looming upon us. We need to talk about
that and set ups and things that the mentors and
folks that take youth to the field need to think about.
And then we're gonna talk again about going forward the

(37:32):
muzzleloader season, which is overlapping this season for the first time,
and some of those techniques. So let's take off of.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
That well first and foremost. When we get these youth out,
let's not forget about the importance of what we're doing.
We're mentoring young people, and sometimes what can happen on
a hunt to a kid that makes it success is
totally different than what an adult would see it being

(38:04):
successful anything from safety to having a good shooting rest,
to making sure that the kids are dressed right and
they're having a good time all the way to the
lows of maybe wounding a deer, hitting a deer, not

(38:24):
finding it, or sometimes it's not always a positive experience
for it. Sometimes it's the first time that young people
have ever got to see death. So just don't overlook
how important it is to be a mentor. But don't
focus on strictly corn piles. Don't focus strictly on leases

(38:45):
or private pieces of property. Public land offers some phenomenal
youth hunting opportunity, especially with a firearm. Get out there,
make sure that the young people that you're hunting with
are going to have something that takes place that they'll
remember for the rest of their lives. And don't forget

(39:08):
to teach them about the importance of, you know, waiting
for good shot placement and making sure that they do
their part. It's easy for those little people to get excited.
It's really easy for the adults to get excited and
try to cover areas in which young people don't have
to make a quick pop shot. It's one of the
worst case scenarios that you can do, make sure they're

(39:30):
really familiar with the firearm that they're going to be utilizing,
and everything from the eye relief on that scope for
an adult versus a kid, all the way to how
that recol could impact them or report at the end
of the muzzle. All of these things take time. And
for the folks that have perfected hunging with youth, I

(39:51):
don't think anybody will disagree Jim that it takes a
lot more time to get prepared and to get ready,
and our hopes are really really high. And for those
folks that are getting ready to take out their first
youth hunter, don't think that killing that deer is what's
going to determine whether or not that hunt was successful

(40:12):
or not. Now we'll get into some techniques. I love
to hunt c RP with youth. I love using mode
lanes with youth. I really capitalize on fence rows and
transition areas to where those youth can can really shine
with getting to see a lot of deer. That's an
important thing that we've got to remember that when they're

(40:36):
in deer and they're seeing deer, and they're seeing turkeys
and squirrels and there's activity, they don't have a chance
to get real bored, you know, and that's something that
can come on to two young people. We always think
about it as high fiving and celebrating, but you've got
to keep a young person's interest and don't overlook how
important that's going to be. Don't overlook the fact that

(41:00):
young people are going to take a little bit more
time to get steady on the shot, and that you know,
utilize a blind if you have to, utilize some type
of netting up and around the stand. Make sure that
they've got some type of shooting rest and be to
where you can actually talk to that young person and
explain to them about the safety and calm their breathing down,

(41:21):
because you, as an adult, should be determining when that
young person takes that shot. And we've got a big
scale of folks here. I mean, we've got people that
are taking kids out that are you know, four and
five years old, and we've got people that are taking
kids out that are almost ready to be you know,
licensed drivers in the state of Kentucky. So there's a

(41:43):
big spread there. And how those kids are going to
react and what you've got to do to get them
prepared and ready, and don't forget too that that second
weekend we're going to have the Muzzloder season intertwined with
the use season, and it's going to be really important
for folks to have some communication with landowners and making

(42:05):
sure everybody knows who's going to be aware that hunter
orange is required by law from the time that you
enter the field till you leave the field. It doesn't
say that you take it off when you get up
in the stand or you take it off when you
crawl into the blind. So main point that I want
to make gemis is make sure these kids are having
a good time and make sure that they're safe.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well, I've always had ultimate respect for you as a
person because of your commitment to youth. That was one
of the reasons quite frankly, that I shined on you.
By what I mean by that is the reason I
was attracted to you as a co host, because you

(42:51):
really care about that and the future of our sport,
whether it be hunting or fishing, is something that you've
really been keen on. And I think what you just
said there is so illustrative of what needs to happen
out there, because if you're not if that child's not safe,

(43:13):
if they're not entertained. And entertainment has a lot of
different connotations, but let me say this, A hot ground
blind on a field set where the only thing they
see right before dark is a doe to shoot at

(43:33):
is not a good scenario. I know that's an extreme example,
but what I'm getting at is it doesn't provide the
same interconnection with nature as a stand or a set
where they're gonna see turkeys and squirrels and ground hogs
and all the things that nature can provide in a

(43:57):
set that provides those things. And you need to think
about that, because if the first hunt a child ever
has is in a hot blind on a field edge
where nothing shows up but a one deer or maybe
no deer at all at sunset, they're going to be
bored out of their skull. They're not going to have

(44:19):
had a good experience. And if you don't consider that,
you're really not in tune with what that child should
be exposed to. And what you just talked about is
so spot on about what's needed. And I'll put it
this way. If a kid sitting in a blind and
all they're doing is playing with their phone and video games.

(44:42):
They might as well be at home because they're really
not gain much. You know, it's not about to kill.
It's about the immersion in nature and what nature can
teach them and things they've never seen before, things they
need to understand, things that fascinate them. If you're not
providing that in a youth hunt, you're failing.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
And pump the brakes on that this youth season's been
around for a long time now. And I mentioned earlier
in the show with a Crossbow, a lot of young
people are hunting with a crossbow, so the youth season
doesn't have the same appeal. Don't just take kids hunting
for deer during the special youth seasons that utilize the

(45:33):
regular firearm season. Hunting with youth is just a big thing.
But understand too that maybe this year you don't have
a big buck, or maybe you're not seeing as many
deer as you would like. Maybe set some goals as
an adult when you take this youth hunting this year,
that you're going to make them feel dressed the deer,

(45:56):
or you're going to make them quarter or ca that
deer up to take it to the taxidermist, or maybe
you're going to do more with them to show them
the responsibility of meat processing or utilize the time to
explain how you can take that venison and donate it

(46:18):
to Kentucky hunters for the hungry and why we kill
those or why we need to donate deer and it's
just not all about the big bucks. And at the
end of the day, as those kids are seeing these
squirrels and different activities in the woods, ask them, would
you be interested in going turkey hunting this spring? Would

(46:39):
you be interested in trying to go squirrel hunt with
me one weekend. We're trying to pass on the entire
characteristic of what it takes to be an all around outdoorsman,
just not a deer hunter. And I hope people hear
that loud and clear. Talk to kids about is she

(47:00):
talk to him about kak and go through the year
with them what all they can do, and what opportunities
are out there and and everything as far as just
shaking the landowner's hand or saying hello or thanking them
for the hunt when it's over or at the end
of the weekend, or sharing camp with the kid and
setting up a tent, or teaching them how to sharpen
a knife, you. Season is about more than filling a tag.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It is that I i'most throw something in here is
probably going to bring me to tears before i can
complete it, but I'm totally okay with it. My one
of my favorite people in my whole life, Thomas Gary Roman.
Folks that listened to the show for years know what

(47:47):
he meant to me, and he said something one time
that took me aback. It really did. I was like,
what he said, you know, to a child, determination of
the life of an animal is a big deal. And
I recalled from that a little bit. And what he

(48:08):
said was, you got to be careful how you introduce
a child to that, because if they don't interconnect with
the fact that it is a termination of life, it
is a method to feed your family, and it is
something that can provide for your family, then it's all lost.

(48:31):
It's just a death of an animal. And if you
think about that for any long period of time, if
you really indulge in that thought. He was so spot
on about that, And what I'm leading to is that's
why kids ought to be in my era and going

(48:53):
forward introduced to squirrel hunting and stuff, because what is
a deer it's a great, big, beautiful and animal, not
that a squirrel isn't, but it's less traumatic. And so
what I'm getting that there is there's ways to get
youth involved and to let them understand that. Look, son

(49:17):
or daughter, or niece or nephew, or you exter that
you're mentoring. The reason we do this is so we
could be in the outdoors, we can enjoy God's creation,
and we can feed ourselves from it. This chase for
trophies for trophy's sake, to me is a little bit sickening,

(49:44):
quite frankly, not that I don't do it myself, but
you know what I do, eat the animal. And this
is something that I think is very important we need
to bring forward in today's society, and as we move
forward through these youth seasons in particular, that we realize
that's what we're doing. We're bent towarding these youths to

(50:08):
enjoy nature and to enjoy a harvest from nature that
is to be admired. I would never take a kid
personally to the woods to kill a big buck on
the first alley. I don't do it. I never have
done it. I've told them all the same thing. We're
gonna shoot a deer for meat, and then we're gonna

(50:30):
progress from there. But as we progress from there, we're
still gonna eat the meat. And I'm gonna close with
that thought.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
But Scott, amen, and you're tight on time, and I'm
gonna say this, a few more kids need to learn
how to whittle. It's there's a lot of ways to
pass the time, and a deer stand or a deer
blind other than having a handheld cell phone or technical device.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
It's good time to give a kid a pocket knife
as a gift. Good time to let a kid just
sit and keep their eyes open and looking straight out
in front of them, to the left and right them,
not just looking down at a screen.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yes, sir, if they're looking down at a screen, honestly,
they might as well be at home on the couch.
And now I know that's a strong, harsh statement, but
I just made it and I'll stand by it one
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(51:33):
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we're talking about setups for the youth of muslider.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Main thing's going to be is, you know, keep that
wind in your favor. That's going to be. That's to
be key. Remember that a lot of these deer are
still going to be in that changeover of you know,
food to bed and bed to food. And one of
the greatest white tail hunters that's followed across the United

(52:15):
States made a comment the other day that was so important,
and that was when a deer is going to bed,
we're getting up and when we're you know, trying to
figure out what the deer is going to do on
their day or their schedule. They're really completely and totally
opposite of where our bedtime and wake up time is.

(52:35):
And try to think in that general perspective when it
comes time to get in and out of your tree stands.
There's a lot of new strategies that are out there.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Jim.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
It used to be that folks would just kind of
go and sit down on the ground and use a
five gallon bucket, and those ways still work. Don't overlook
that it's important to be able to steal hunt. Make
sure that you've got you a couple of trees, stands
and set up possibly to get in and out of
pretty easily. If you've got something to get in and
out of the weather, that's really important too. I see

(53:09):
a lot of fighting and bickering. It used to be
that it was over the crossbow and the vertical bow man.
We're even kind of getting into some arguing and bickering
with whether you hunt from a saddle or you hunt
from a blind. And then at the end of the day,
go out there and put yourself in a position where
deer going to be going to rest, where there's not

(53:30):
any pressure, they're going to be moving. They're kind of
at peace. You know, they're fat and happy. Basically, you
know where do they sleep at, where do they eat it?
And how can you get in between there without them
knowing that you're there and just sit back and observe
and hunt. And a lot of these seasons that are
coming up can be utilized to put venison on the

(53:51):
ground and in your freezer, but this time can be
utilized to get you the intel that you may need
to make or shift or adjust with your archery equipment
or not. Too many weeks from now, Jim, we'll be
hitting a modern firearm season. So food is key, dense
covers key, and water. Believe it or not, it is
still pretty important. And anybody that's got out and got

(54:14):
their food plots in and have benefited from the rains,
don't be surprised if you don't see deer transitioning onto
these green food sources, especially as the agriculture crops have
come out.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
No question. Then, coming back from this break, we're going
to talk a lot about some things about what's coming,
because it's still not too late to plant food plots,
especially if you've had disappointments, and we've all had them
because of this goofy weather. And then we're going to

(54:46):
talk about the fishing, which is got to get better
and better going forward. All right, folks, got to do
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(55:06):
check them out mop h Rtrealty dot com. Now let's
talk about our top picks for the use season and
muzzlel order on standing sites and what people can expect
because farm crops are harvested way above normal time because

(55:30):
of the drought and we've got other unusual conditions.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I'm definitely always going to play the advantage of what
my neighbors and the other hunting pressure is going to
be doing to push deer by me during any farm season,
no matter what the agriculture crop is, no matter what
the wind direction is, or no matter what the temperature is.
I've always been able to capitalize on the fact that

(55:57):
other people are going to be making some decision they're
going to push deer by me, and I always try
to capitalize on that. Close to areas that I know
have really good sign and really good food, deer will
always kind of go for that escape route with cover
and a lot of times with the work that people

(56:19):
like yourself and I do on properties, you've got good
cover and a lot of times those deer will go
to those security areas and that cover. A lot of
times there is a lot of food. So that's where
I'm gonna be Jim, is where the cover is and
the sidewalk that leads those deer to and from bedding
the food and most likely I'll probably be elevated hunting

(56:42):
out of a saddle. And the reason why that is
is I look for these wind directions to kind of
twist and turn just a little on us. And I
am one of those guys that the area that I've
kind of got my eye on Right now, my acron's
dropped a little bit later than what I needed them to.
But the deer will not waste any time capitalizing on

(57:03):
those and hopefully get out and have some good weather.
And if the rain comes, I guess I'm just a
sissy gim because I'm gonna figure out a way to
put some type of roof over my head.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
No, there's nothing being a sissy about keep bringing off
you back. Even a monkey knows that. I like to say,
let's talk about the youth situation, because ninety percent of
that probably is either a ground blind or a double
blind where an adult is with them. Let's talk about

(57:38):
what our suggestions are for that, because it's right upon us.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Yeah, that you've got a lot of folks that are
going to utilize a double stand. A lot of folks
are utilizing some type of shooting house. Now, whether it's
commercially bald or it's been made. Some folks will use
just a good old eighty to one hundred dollars pop
up blind, and other folks have gotten creative with some
burr lap and netting and some vegetation. But keep those

(58:04):
youth off of the deer as far as they don't
need to be as close as what me or you
would be if we were in there archery hunting. Realize
there's going to be a little bit of chaos, and
you don't want to do anything where the talking or
just getting that creed kid secured on the firearm is
going to alert a deer to where you could lose
everything all at once. To try to utilize strategies also

(58:29):
where deer will be easily seen for the vital areas
in the evenings in the afternoons, perfect case scenario is
where you have some woods where the wind's in your
favor and you can kind of have a good clear
opening through some more mature hardwoods into some type of
open field, whether that's being elevated above some type of

(58:53):
vegetation like CRP or a hayfield or freshly harvested agricultural field.
In the mornings, try to work with kids. This is
just my suggestion. I would suggest that you walk in
at daylight when the light is breaking. That way, that
first movement of deer has gotten off of those food

(59:15):
sources and the kid hasn't gotten up so early that
they're sleeping before the sunrise even occurs. That's not a
tactic that I'm telling someone to do because I think
that's the best way to deer hunt. That's a tactic
I'm telling you to use because that's the best way
to deer hunt with young people. Because trying to wake
a kid up at the very first part of the

(59:38):
day to get them onto the firearm, especially if a
deer is moving or getting through vegetation, it's a disaster.
Everything's rushed and a lot of times you won't see
where an effective SHOT's been made. As far as young people, also,
make sure that you do have some type of I
like a tripod personally, I love the bog pod with

(01:00:00):
the death grip that's on it. It is absolutely a
game changer from hunting from the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
And if you're going to let me, let me, let
me say you them man on that that is absolute
in my opinion, that is an absolute necessity that that
has to be considered age.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
It is the best hunting product that has come out
in my forty seven years a living. I'm talking to crossbow, firearms, everything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
That is meaning interrupt but then.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
As far as uh, as far as getting up on
and elevated. Even if you've got a you know, a
situation where you don't want to get in there this
late and you feel like you've not done your part
getting prepared for the U season, please take the time
to utilize two by fours or some type of structure
where kids can get a good rest when they get
up in the tree. And something that I have seen

(01:00:59):
we've gradually moved away from is we've stopped building our
own ground blinds, and we've kind of stopped building our
own deer stands. And I know there's a lot of
negative talk out there about how, you know, putting lumber
on trees is not as safe as it used to be.

(01:01:20):
I mean, you can still utilize a lifeline and a
safety harness with a homemade deer stand built out of wood.
You just need to be the adult here and make
sure that you've built a ladder and you've got some
type of way that you're going up and down the tree.
And I'm not saying we get a bunch of kids
out there with two by fours just you know, nails

(01:01:40):
and screws into the side of the tree. I'm saying,
utilize some lumber and build some nice shooting houses or
nice shooting platforms for these kids to get up on.
And the other thing is too, Jim. I don't know
if you've realized this over the last few years, but
more and more people are starting to adapt building a
shooting platform on legs and then they tilt it up.

(01:02:02):
They're only getting five to ten foot off the ground,
and they're putting an eighty hundred dollars ground blind on
top of it. And it has become I was just
talking with my buddy John Bray over towards the eastern
part of the state last week, and he was talking about, man,
why in the world I sit in some little middle
deer stand and sit there uncomfortably for three or four hours.
I never know why I did it, And we just

(01:02:23):
you know, you got to keep those kids comfortable if
they're in the field, and say with that muzzle order,
the more time that you can spend in the field,
the undetected comfortable and able to see the better chance
you've got a cracking that muzzle with a little report
at the end of it and a piece of lead
or copper going into the vitals of a deer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Uh, no question, I answerests me. You mentioned that because
you don't have a hundred personally all over the United
States for white tail deer north, south, east and west.
One of the coolest things to me has been some
of these I call them Texas blinds for no better

(01:03:04):
reason or ability to describe them. Where you're no more
than eight feet off the ground. It's a slight ladder
build up to a platform that's rounded, and you have
a shooting rail. Scott you describe them probably better than
I can, but don't blend anything. And you can pull

(01:03:26):
them behind your truck the mergent or a pen flyne
a tree line, or put them out on a woods
road and butdy, you're gone to the deer and my goodness,
with that mobility, that's something that I think should be
brought to the Southeast or United States that comes out

(01:03:48):
of Texas, where they do that to hog hunt and
deer hunt, where you don't need all that twenty foot
height as much as you need the ability to blend
in and to have a little bit of of elevation,
but most importantly something to lean on. Those things are
deadly well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Here's what's important. Folks can utilize a small utility trailer,
build a platform on no more than the angle arm
that is on the trailer naturally, and they can set
a pop up blind on top of that and as
long as a deer, if you can brush it in
or let the deer get used to it, that's a
phenomenal way to get a kid just three and four

(01:04:28):
foot off the ground. And it's crazy how much better
your visibility can be with that at times. And also
what you can do is you can move that around
if it's on the farm, especially in agricultural fields, and
they're used to seeing it. When it gets moved around,
it looks no different to them than a piece of

(01:04:48):
farm equipment. And you can use that wind and your
advantage and you're constantly keeping things in your face. And
one thing that's important for folks to realize when you're
using a firearm, if you have a better entry and
a better exit out of your hunting location, and you
can be seventy five yards off of the area that

(01:05:11):
you're wanting to have your shot done. You're better to
do that than you are to be twenty five yards
away a lot of times, because it goes into that
part of kids are going to be excited, adults are
going to be excited, and a lot of these kids
will have a better field of you. Keep that power

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of that optic turned down a little bit and let
them see the whole deer. You got to remember at
some point in time, they are in control of that firearm,
and whether they're using arm sights or an optic, you've
got to remember that these kids are sometimes killing their
first deer or they've only killed a handful of deer.
It goes back to why we need kids squirrel hunting

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before deer season rolls in, to just get used to
that eye objective relief and all that. But please take
the time to make sure that you're utilizing the terrain
to your advantage to hunt with youth and a muzzleoader.
And the same thing can be said about crossbows and
compound boats. Try to make the terrain work to where

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you have the best shot opportunity, quartern away broadside shots
and utilize that terrain. You're the adult, you're the human
outthink the deer. They're smart, but outthink the deer.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Yes, sir, that's a big email on that. All right, folks,
gotta go to break. Coming back from break, we're gonna
talk about fish because fish you're in transition too, and
we're gonna tell you how to capitalize on that because
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(01:06:58):
A RT Realty Co. All Right, Scott, before we move
off of deer deer management, turkey management. Food pots, a
lot of them failed. We've had all the stag on droughts,
killed the root systems everything people normally expect to see.

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Some haven't worked out. I'll include myself in that category. Yeah,
but we're not too late. It's not too late, not.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Too late prime time to plant those cereal grains for pallability.
We have we have done a really good job of
getting people to plant food plots way too early because
of pictures on bags. Folks, if you want to get
some plots in the ground and get them established, or
you want to save the plots that didn't germinate or

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come up or didn't get to the to yield and
what you're gonna be able to have because of the drought.
Please don't overlook utilizing winter week and your cereal right eye.
And if you don't know that much about it, you
don't have to have that much equipment. You need good
bear soil, you can disc it in, work it up,

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you can cult the pack that. You can do a
lot of things, and there's a lot of people that
can help you grow these and you don't have to
be necessarily a green thumb to have good results out
of them. You juice them with a little bit of
fertilizer once you get them planted later on here in
the fall. But Jim, if folks can get out there
and get ninety to two hundred pounds of winter week
broadcast on top of the ground and cult the pack

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that or disc it in or on their cereal righte anywhere,
it's from sixty to one hundred and twenty pounds and
a care not stand alone. If you want to mix
and blend them, which is what me and you both do,
that's even better. But capitalize on the moisture that's gotten
into the ground and some of the future rains that
fingers crossed. We get, but definitely in prime time to
make the most of those cereal greens.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Yes, sir, all right fishing top water bass, it's all.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Yeah, buddy, and it's got nothing but.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Better to go forward. I mean it's already time. They're
coming shallow. They know what's coming. They're feeding anything from
a buzz bait to chug bub or a you know,
any type of popping type of lure. Zarah, spook, I

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don't care what you're talking about. That's game on already.
It's gonna get nothing better. Chatter baits, spinner baits, everything's
coming on. Crappie or moving up. They're coming up. They're
in twelve to fifteen, coming shallower all the time, getting
ready to come forward. And bluegill and shell crackers are already.

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I know this because of my fishing, and you do too, Scott.
They're in ten feet or less and coming up all
the time. It's getting ready to be magic, and folks,
it's not what's the right word, critical science, start fishing
twelve feet or less.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
The best bite has been on the choppo for the
top water bass bait overall, gim The strongest crappy bite
has been in four to five foot of water at
the very top of brush up against shorelines where these
crappie have gotten in with some of the bait fish basically,

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and they're feeding. They're coming up into the thermacline and
they're getting where that dissolved oxygen is at, and that's
where a lot of those fish that are biting and
surviving are red. And as far as the blue gill,
I don't know if I've ever seen bluegill this fat,
this early going into October, but they have been eating,
and they've been on a little feeding frenzy, and they're

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my little fat buddies. And I love dropping them into
live well and dropping them in the oil. I don't
know which one I like better, but I like to
do both at the same time. You know, catch him
in a day, cook him at night.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
So yeah, you know. I fished yesterday with a mutual
friend of ours, Jeff Spainhi, and we were hammer and
big shell, cracker and crappie and blue yell, all of
them five feet or less. I said, you know what's
really magic about this? He said what I said? We
get to release them. And he looked at me and

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he said, what do you mean. I said, we get
to release them in Lake Lard or Lake chrisc And
that's truly, truly what this time of the year is
for fishing for bass Like you mentioned five feet or less.

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It's here. You don't need forward fasting, seminar, a sonar
and all that stuff stuff right now, you just need
to understand fisher coming shallow, they're gonna feed up for fall,
they're gonna get fat, and with blue gill, shell cracker
and crappie, they're on little structure items where they're easy

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to find. Get out there and get after it, because
you know what, everybody's rock over all, right, folks, that's
it for tonight. God bless her by, please base state
out there.