12-29-24 - Holiday Call-in Show.

On tonight's program, Jim and Scott talk to callers on the special holiday call-in show.

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good evening everybody, Gemstrator here, and happy holidays everyone. We
hope each and every one of you has had a
really nice Christmas. And as we head into the holidays,
we're doing a special program tonight. Those of you who
follow me on Jim straightor Outdoors on social media and

(01:20):
know what I'm talking about, and tonight's our meet and
greet show. We try to do this every year where
we reach out to you our listenership, to call in,
let us know who you are, what your interests are,
what type of programming you enjoy the most, and just
have an opportunity to wish you happy holidays. So in

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that regard, the numbers for you to call us five
O two five seven one eighty four eighty four or
one eight hundred four four four eighty four eighty four.
Again those numbers two five seven one eighty four eighty

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four or toll free eight hundred four four four eighty
four eighty four. And this is our opportunity to get
to know you and get to know what your lives are,
what your participation in the outdoors is like. And once
again Scott and I would really look forward to just

(02:25):
wishing your happy holidays and maybe enjoy chatting with you
about how your dear season went, how your rabbit hunting's
going you're squirrel hunting. If you're a bass fisherman, we'd
love to hear from you, crappy. You know, we cover
the broad brush on the program throughout the year as
best we can. Obviously, we at times might miss something

(02:48):
that you want to listen to or something that you'd
like to chat about. So if that's the case, again,
pick up that phone and come on in. I promise
you we do not bite. So I'm gonna give the
numbers again and then I'm gonna go to break, but
once again, tonight is a call in show designed to

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let you, the listener, let us know about the programming,
what your interests are, and things you'd like, perhaps to
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(03:52):
All right, folks again, tonight is our meet and greet
Holiday edition of Jim Straight or Outdoors. Scott Croner and
I I'd love to hear from you. The numbers for
you to call it in five O two five seven,
one eighty four eighty four are toll free one eight
hundred four four four eighty four eighty four. Let's go

(04:16):
here first to Lee James, who's calling from down in
the western part of the state and Dawson Springs. Let's
talk about crappie and raccoons. Hey, Lee, welcome on board, buddy.
Happy holidays to.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
You, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas you guys.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Thank you much, sir. Well, tell us about the crappie fishing.
What's going on.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Well, we've been a couple of days this week and
call good numbers, but they're making you work at it.
It's not real easy right now. I guess if you
land on the right files, maybe it is. But it's
it's kind of one of those times where you gotta
have a lot of waypoints in your units and cover
a lot of spots, and you're probably gonna pick up
one or two off of beach pile and you're.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Just gonna have to really rustle throughout the day.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, what do you think it's due to lee?

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I think that one probably the time of the year.
I mean, they should be really in their fall slash
winter run, but they're Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know, our water temperatures have.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Kind of been up and down, and we found fish
yesterday and then not a lot, but we found fish
all the way down in seven eight foot of water,
which is pretty unusual for this time of year. But
for the most part, the highest population standing out around
the main river channel and we're targeting mainly fifteen to
twenty foot and sometimes twenty two twenty three. But uh,

(05:36):
I think they're just scattered right now because of the
fluctuation and water temperature, and they're they're on the lakes
where we're at their shad everywhere, so they're not really
having to go hunting for food.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
We've got a really good uh shad crop and bait
fish crop this year.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Quick question, I'm assuming you're fish in Berkley and Kentucky
since you're from Gossipal Springs, Is that right?

Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's correct? Mainly Barkley, Kentucky, Kentucky. I'm predominantly Barkley, and
I do. I spend a little time on lake Butsyre
here around Dawson Springs that most of my times on
North Barkley or Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, I got a question for you. Are you running
into yellow bass on some of those piles, and if so,
is the size pretty good?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Absolutely, a lot of a lot of yellow bass, a
lot of blue gill, you know, And and this fall
I have caught better sized blue gill. I know that's
not the question you asked, but I've caught better sized
blue gill out of those brushpiles than I have any
of you in the past. But the yellows are there
and good keeper size.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
If I know some guys who liked ethos, yellows and
the feast that we're catching are just right for that.
Nothing real big, but they're they're good keeper size.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'll tell you what. I'm one of those guys that
loves yellow bass. I used to fish form a lot
with tail Hipshire Craig. His son Craig is a guy
down there on Kentucky and Barkley and Dale. His dad, Yep,
the Dale and I fished together a lot back in
the day before he passed, and he and I always

(07:14):
targeted big yells when we could find them, as they're
to me just as good to eat as a croppier
any other fish. I'm also interested about your comments about
the bluegill because last year I felt like Kentucky and
Barkley are climbing back to the size that we enjoyed before.
I'm not saying they're as big as they were ten

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or fifteen years ago, but they're definitely meaty fish. Are
you seeing that kind of year round in this past
year or so, or what's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Absolutely, my wife and I do a lot of bluegill
fishing in the spring.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
As a matter of fact, I crappy fish.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Pretty much all fall and all winter until they go
to the banks. And when they go to the banks,
how I usually start bluegill fishing. So we'll do that
on through however many moon phases and spawns that we
can hit. But yeah, with the size of the bluevill
last year were phenomenal for us. We found some good
readier last year. We really had a good spring as

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far as blue gilling readier last year. And I'll agree
with you, and I'll go as far as to say
I think that the population of most of the fish
species on Kentucky and Barkley Lake, with the exception of
large mouth, are actually doing well. I would almost say
thriving when you know, you know, small mouth on Barkley
Lake used to be something that was really rare, and

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it's pretty common to go out and catch as many
or if not more small mouth than you do large mouth.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
On the trip.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Bluegill are doing well, crappier doing well. Cat fish are
blowing up there everywhere, So you know, I think everything's
doing well. I'm a little still still kind of the
jury's out on the large mouth.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I think it's better than it was a few years ago.
With out of doubt.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Uh, I think they're having a harder time adapting to
some bad spawns and pressure of some azing carp and
than maybe some of the other species I see.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, Uh, my bluegill that I caught in late
May and June at Berkeley were some of the biggest
blue gill on average I've ever caught out of Barkley.
I think their their bluegill size is actually above and
beyond what I've seen in the past.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
No, I can agree with that, Yes.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
And uh, you wanted to talk to us a little
bit about raccoons too.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Oh yeah, I'll talk to you anytime about about fishing,
coon hunting, rabbit hunting.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
So well as a coon hunter. Obviously, there's no shortage
of coons out there. Tell us a little bit about it.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
You know, we've had we've had a pretty decent year.
I hunt pretty much year round. Of course, ken harvest
them out of the season, but we'll work our dogs,
especially young dogs, in the corn fields in the summertime.
But this long we've you know, it's kind of really
it's a little spotty. You know, you'll have coons. Here's
the here's the deal. Everybody thinks that there are coons everywhere.

(10:08):
That's because everybody has a camera by their deer feeder
and that's where all the coons.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Are, right, they're not.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
They're not really evenly dispersed. You know.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
The coons are smart animals and they have figured out
there's a food source there. So everybody thinks that we're
just overrun with coons, and we do have a good
population of them, but they're all concentrated in certain areas
because the feeders.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, Well that makes a lot of sense. Well, Lee,
thanks so much for calling in tonight, and happy holidays
and good luck fishing, and well I'm sure we'll talk
to you somewhere down the road.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
All right, thanks for having me. I appreciate you and
Scott and what you do. And Merry Christmas and happy
New Year to you.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
All and to you partner. All right, let's go to
Dennis Johnson, who's been holding on. Hey Dennis, down in
the world, are you hey, Jim?

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Happy holidays?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Man? Back right back at your big guy. Folks. You
don't know Dennis Johnson, you ought to. He's with Kentucky
Whitetail Hunters and been a long time listener. How's the
holidays been, how's your hunting?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Ben?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
What's on your mind tonight? Dennis?

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Oh Man? You know? First off, I first off, I
want to say thank you for being a voice of
the sportsmen and women across the state of Kentucky. You know,
you you you get a lot of these hot topics
out there on the air and bring them to light.
And we I know, and I can say, and I'm

(11:37):
sure I can speak for others. We all greatly appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, Dennis, I deeply appreciate you saying that. Scott and
I do a lot of research, and as you know,
we do our homework and the things that we bring up,
quite frankly, are some of my least favorite shows for me,
because I do not, in any way, shape or fashion
being a critic. However, when things aren't right, or there's corruption,

(12:05):
or are there's decisions being made that don't make sense,
you gotta call them as you see them. So I
appreciate you saying that exactly.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
You're welcome. As far as my dear season goes mine,
I've seen a lot of deer, just nothing that I
wanted to harvest, nothing big enough. I tend to I
tend to let the smaller deer go and just wait
for something bigger. And but again, you know, I've seen
a lot of deer, and but of course I'm one

(12:37):
of those that was set up on corn and I
had deer coming in to me. But as you know,
with this CWD issue, that changed the game plan. So yes,
you had to look other areas. You had to look
at other areas on the farm and see where, you know,
watch trails and set up cameras and everything kind of
occurred right about mid season. Yes, so you know you

(13:00):
got you got to change up tactics, right. You know,
I've totally enjoyed my time in the woods and hopefully
next year things will be better.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
And you know, well I sure hope. So that whole situation,
especially in your area down there, is a little bit crazy.
I actually am getting reports that they're allowing the deer
farmers are going and doing whatever they want to do,
and we're the ones being restricted. And I'm sure you

(13:31):
listen to our programs that I've done with doctor Kroll.
I think this whole is overblown. I think there's been
big knee jerk reaction and it's the hunters that are
taking it on the chin. I mean, and I don't
think no doubt. What do you hear from your huge constituency,

(13:52):
by the way, how many what's your membership up to now?
It's just crazy, my.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Lord man, I'm almost up to We're almost up to
forty thousand members.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's fantastic. Well, what kind of feedback do you get
through your people overall?

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Well, you know what I'm seeing and what I'm reading
is people think that these deer farmers they should have
double fencing around their farms.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
You know, with the issue at the issue down here,
and the farmer mentioned that a while deer probably come
up to the fence and nudge noses with the tame there. Well,
you know what if we'd have had if we'd have
had a double fencing, that wouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, that's true enough, that's true enough. You know.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
One of the times, one of the things that bothers
me that I'd like to know if you've got to
handle on this through your membership, is the restriction on feeding.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Minerals to deer, because minerals are something they need. You know,
we have an argument about bait, but minerals are something
they drastically need, and by restricting folks from feeding minerals
to wildlife, that actually keeps the animals healthy. And I

(15:18):
don't I'm just not to agree with with that at all,
because there's no more listening going on at a mineral
site than there is a looking brand, and so it
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
And you're not gonna have you're not going to have
a large concentration a deer at one time at a
mineral site. Nope, not like you would. You know, you're
just not You're travel too, and they're gonna find that
mental site it's not like you're going to have five
or six deer at one time at it, Yes, sir,

(15:49):
and it just and it just makes no, absolutely no
sense to me.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well it does better, but it doesn't. A lot of people,
and I off to a lot of folks down in
your country are really angry about it. Uh As you
probably know, I went to that one meeting down there
in burt Ridge, Canada.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, I watched the video of it, and I've seen
you there and well a lot of what a lot
of what was talked about by the officials it. You know,
it really upset me the way, like you said, the
knee jerk reaction to the whole situation and that that

(16:31):
you know, with very with no input to the last
minute till they made their decision, no input from the public.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's that's what's something about it.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
I know, it just makes it makes absolutely no sense.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yep. What are some of your favorite programs or something
that you'd like to hear more of from us?

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Oh man, just you know some of the food plot situations. Okay,
I know it's kind of hard to talk about that
on air, but that you know, guest speaker maybe with
that puts out food plots and just grab them to
us and tell us what's the best to plant. You
know during these times of the year. You know your

(17:18):
fall food plots and you know spring food plots.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well, we've got some killer guests lined up already for
late winter and the spring plannings, and I can assure
you we're all over that. You know, we do them
at periodic times, but this year we're making a concentrated
effort and we got some guys that are really just,
you know, right at the cutting edge on that stuff.

(17:45):
So I hear what you're saying, and we were definitely
headed in that direction. Anything else you'd like or maybe
something you.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Don't like, No, you know, like I said, every show
that I've and to listen to it's been very informative,
good and I totally enjoy it. But again, you know,
I want to thank you for supporting being a spokesperson
for the sportsmen and women across the state of Kentucky.

(18:17):
You it's got both because, like you said, you do
your homework and you make sure that you know what
you're talking about before you're eric.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, Dennis, it means a ton to us and folks
he's with Kentucky whitetail hunters on Facebook. Go see them.
It's a great forum and very loaded with the information.
So we got to go to break here. This break
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listings at mp H A r Trealty dot com. All right, folks,
we're back and again we're doing our holiday meet and
Greek show tonight. We would love to hear from you,
hear about your interests, your thoughts about our programming through
the year, things that perhaps you would like to hear

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more about to do. So you can call it five
oh two five seven one eighty four eighty four. It's
five O two five seven one eight four eight four
or toll free at one eight hundred four four four
eighty four eighty four, which is exactly what Brian Young

(19:27):
from Trimble County has called in on. Hey brinight, how
are you tonight? Happy holidays?

Speaker 7 (19:34):
Hello, Jim, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
The same to you, brother. Hope everything's going well at
your house.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
I couldn't be happier.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Good deal. I understand you got a dear story for us.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Yes, Jim, I'm going to give you the Ben.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
All Right.

Speaker 8 (19:58):
Show. My name's been ten years old. I'm from Trema County.

Speaker 9 (20:05):
I'm on the.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
Farm I was in. I was between a sunflower field
and the woods. I'm shooting a Remington Model seven two
twenty three. He was about one hundred yards away and

(20:27):
I got a chest shot on him. He went down
right where he was standing. He didn't die, though, and
my dad kicked it. I kicked his legs and he
kicked back. We went to his head. My dad poked

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his head. He chucked up on blood and died. And
when I shot him, I thought he was a doe.
But he had chett his horns before, and it was
really great.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You said, he cheate his antler's already been Yeah, I'll
be dagone. Well, I bet that was something. Is this
your first, dear?

Speaker 8 (21:20):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Great? Well do you mind telling us what that felt
like for you?

Speaker 8 (21:27):
I was really excited and I was shaking.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, sir, I relate to that. I've been there and
done that myself. Quick question, have you hunted anything besides
deer before?

Speaker 8 (21:48):
Yes, dope.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Doves? You said, yeah, cool. Do you enjoy that a lot?

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Great? Well, that's a very unique story, especially the fact
that dear had already shed his antlers. Do you like
to eat deer. Ben, yes, great, great, well, Brian, hats
off to you for getting that young man out. Had
he hunted with you through the regular season or was

(22:20):
this kind of a Christmas gift of sorts?

Speaker 7 (22:25):
Ben's been tagging along for about three seasons now, and
he's had an opportunity to see me harvest a pair
of ten point bucks over the last two years or
three years, and this is the first year that he's
been the shooter, and he hunted with us during the
regular season. I had to work during the youth season,

(22:48):
and we didn't have very good luck during the regular season.
But we're very thankful that there's this little weekend here
that falls right after Christmas, so that all of the
good little boys and girls can take the new toys
out and go go hunting.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Cool. Was this rifle a Christmas present, bry Chance, or
was this something he'd utilized earlier? I guess.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
This rifle I have used to dispatch coyotes and other
varmints for a number of years, and when it was
time for the kids to start hunting, I bought a
youth stock to fit this rifle and we handload. So
we handloaded a fifty grain soft point at a moderate
velocity so that we don't tear up a bunch of meat.

(23:33):
And uh, we're three for three with the little fifty
grand soft points.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well that is great.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Well, now Christopher harvest at an eight pointer when he
was ten with that rifle, and now he's hunting with
something a little bit more appropriate. But uh, yeah, we
started them all off with the little gun. Little guns.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Deadly cool, cool Bride. Anything you know you like to
hear differently in our programming, or anything you perhaps would
make a suggestion to us.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
I would like to echo what the previous caller said.
We appreciate you being a voice for Kentucky Sportsman. I
do look forward to that show about food plots. I
think Ben's a little spot back here at the end
of the dove field would be a perfect location to
do something like that. And I always enjoy the recipe shows.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Good good, We've.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
Actually written some of them down and tried some of
them already.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
Cool well, and we've got a deer loin from a
We've got a.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
Deer loin from a small dough back here in the refrigerator.
We're going to put in the air for oyer in
a few minutes after twelve minutes at four hundred. That's
all you need, yes sir, And we'll slice it after
it's been cooked so you can see that. You know
that medium rare interior.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You're talking my kind of dinner. Brother, That sounds great. Well,
thank you all so much for calling in and appreciate
the comments and what I was gonna say. Scott kind
of took me by surprise. He's got a headful of
recipes and did a tremendous job on our recipe program
here recently, so I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yes, sir, All.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Right, well, happy holidays and men keep after it, buddy.
Proud of you, Thank you, yes, sir, thank you. All right,
let's go to I'll tell you what. Let's go to
quick break here, and we've got Brandon Bay's on hold Brandon,

(25:41):
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love to hear from you what your interests are, maybe
what type of programming you'd like to hear more of.

(26:26):
Any suggestions would be more than gladly accepted. To call
us tonight. The numbers are five oh two, five seven
one eighty four eighty four or toll free eight hundred
four four four eighty four eighty four. We had a
caller while we were on break, Chris Howard, who could

(26:48):
not hang on. He called from Fort Myers, Florida, said
he's listening to us for years. Chris, sorry you couldn't
hang on, but happy holidays to you and I hope
your family's doing well. Partner, Uh, I hope you'll call
back sometime, like to know what you liked about the program.
Since you're from Fort Myers, that's a mecca that I've

(27:09):
done a lot of honey and fishing in. Actually, I've
had a lot of wild board down at Fort Myers
area and obviously fish for red fish and trout and
all the good things go on down there. Let's go
to Brandon Bays, who's calling from Muhlenberg County. Hey, Brandon,
how are you tonight?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Pretty good?

Speaker 11 (27:27):
I thought I had the wrong number.

Speaker 12 (27:29):
Try order pizza.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I'll take that, buddy, Yes, sir, finding a frog here?
All right? Go ahead.

Speaker 11 (27:51):
My name is Brandon Bays. I'm executive director of United
Trappers of Kentucky. Also on my own past and Wildlife
Control Cup. Just called in to talk a little bit
about trapping and some of the things our club offers
and legalities and all that.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I'll try to.

Speaker 11 (28:09):
Go through quick because I can. You want to start
off any questions or anything you'd like me to cover
from the get go?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
No, just go ahead. I'm sure you're gonna give folks
a lot of important information.

Speaker 10 (28:21):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 11 (28:22):
Yeah, Like I said, I'm an executive director of United
Trappers of Kentucky. It's an organization here in the state
where say membership. We have training seminars throughout the state.
We have a first sell in Yongberg County the second
Saturday of March every year. Usually there's anywhere from twenty

(28:43):
five hundred pieces of fur or more that goes through.
A lot of these guys come and have direct out
lists to sell towards China, Russia.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Areas like that. We also do a lot of outreach.

Speaker 11 (28:57):
We go to schools, several of us and trapping and
the legalities and all that taking care of our renewable resources,
and we like to see people actually utilize their fur
they catch. So that's why we have the first sell
because it's a good generalized, generalized location where people can
come sell their fur and get money that day. But

(29:18):
so far we've had a lot of interest. Most of
the time we have about two hundred people show up. We
usually have about eighty lots of fur. I think it
was around eighty thousand dollars worth of fur was sold
last year at our sale. And I'll cover some of
the pricing here in a little bit. So far, what
I'm hearing, our prices there are better than a lot

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of the first cells on the east side of the
Mississippi this year, it looks like your water animals are
going to be holding your best profits.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Beaver.

Speaker 11 (29:48):
Of course, the hat or market's hot right now. What
they do is on the beaver drive, they grind it
and use it in Western hats. Believe it or not,
Yellowstone was one of the things that really kicked fur.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
Market back off.

Speaker 12 (30:01):
On a beaver, of course, bobcats.

Speaker 11 (30:04):
They range anywhere from sixty or forty to sixty this
year's while I'm expecting odder anywhere from fifteen to thirty
Muskrats about three dollars. Coons about six bucks.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
For put up.

Speaker 11 (30:17):
For mink, let's see mink six coats being the low
teens this year. Skunks is a novelty market right now
that's selling really good if you have the hard to
put them up because they can't get stinky looking. At
around twelve dollars as the average we got last year,
I think that this year the market's gonna hold pretty

(30:37):
much like last year. You might see this discounts on
beaver a little bit, but other than that, and the
general public that wants to trap, all you gotta do
is buy your trapping license. We suggest some type of
There ain't really any training in our state like other states.
I would like to see us do that just like
an orange card. That way, people are going out and

(30:57):
doing it right.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
And ethical season.

Speaker 11 (31:01):
Comes in November eleventh, the way I remember, it's when
gun season comes in in our district for modern modern
guns for whitetail That Monday following it's when your fur
bear season opens up and it stays in until February
twenty eighth. Now, the last couple of years, the state
has lengthened our beaver season because of the nuisance problem

(31:23):
throughout the state, and it will go through March. I
haven't got word yet that we're going to do it
this year. I say we will because the beaver is
so much of an issue in our state causing property damages.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Brandon, I have a question for you. I get a
lot of call Scott does too about folks having problems
with animals, and one of the biggest ones that jumps
out all the time is odds because of their devastation
and farm ponds and some of these smaller watershed lakes.
It's a real headache for people that want to manage

(31:57):
their fish populations. It can folks network through your organization
to find a local trapper that could help them with that,
And if so, how does that work?

Speaker 11 (32:08):
Oh, yes, that's no problem. You could go to Facebook
to you noted Trappers of Kentucky. We have a Facebook
page and you can message on there. All of us
admin usually check it pretty frequently, and that way we
can network work with trappers that we know in different areas,
you know, recutal people. Now there's another realm. You can

(32:30):
go through Fish and Wildlife and there's a trapper look
up there, and of course what I'm talking about now,
all this.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
Is through regular fur bear season.

Speaker 11 (32:38):
If you have a problem that's per se after trapping season,
you want to contact somebody like myself or a nuisance
control operator in our state, and all that's listed online.
But you're pretty much easiest. One stop shop would be
getting on the Facebook for United Trappers of Kentucky and
just putting us a put question on there. But you're
exactly right about the otter. And the funny thing is,

(33:01):
I think they eat the smaller ones, but even your
trophy fish.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I believe they.

Speaker 13 (33:05):
Kill them just for fun.

Speaker 11 (33:06):
Uh Do you see them weighing up on the bank.
And once a group, a family group moves into you know,
a cup of acre lake or ponds or anything like that,
they o pretty much deplete the population really quick. Because
like I said there, I think they kill for sports.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yes, sir, I do too. Has you got you got
any questions? For Brandon or Okay, well, uh, Brandon, I
really appreciate you chimmitting in with us. Let me ask
you something. Have you been trapping much already? I know
this cool weather is going to really trigger a lot

(33:42):
of guys to get into high gear, especially the couch
as starting to move a lot, you know, approach what
I've been doing this year.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
Of course, the rain has messed up, messed us up.
I've got contracts with several different government entities and the
way and it's for beaver, but the way the water
is in these different counties, you know, we get an
entry rain, it's gonna come up five foot and these
small tributaries and be out of the bank.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
So, like I said, we're it's a little slogo.

Speaker 11 (34:10):
I think we're at fifty something on the beaver, probably
in the thirties on coons. I think I'm a couple
away from limits on the ten otter limit in my area.
But like it's the our slogo. This year, I'm taking
a lot more time in training people that contact me
and taking a lot more people out. Like I said,
the market on your coos and everything's not that great,

(34:32):
So I'm focusing more on water animals and training more
people that shows interest in it this year. But like
I said, the rain sort of messed a lot of
guys up. But I'm here. People are getting solid catches
of cats and all that. I usually don't catch trap
until around usually January is when I really start, when
it gets cold.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yes, sir, okay, I got about a minute left here.
What's your technique with trapping cats? I know a lot
of guys do it differently. What's your number one methodology?

Speaker 12 (35:02):
It's hard.

Speaker 11 (35:03):
It's hard to be a good old fashioned dirt hole
with slagging over it. While I'm talking about I called
an old Indian trick, you know, the feather above the set.
Like you said, Uh, that's sort of one of mine.
I've been experimenting. I used to catch them in cages
and rubsets, but all of them will consistently catch Yeah,
suret with a dirt hole or trash maund set.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
And like say, if anybody's.

Speaker 12 (35:25):
Interested and learning more, wants to run with us.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
And get with the trapper, just reach out to us, all.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Right, brother, Well, thank you so much for calling in tonight,
and good luck during your season out there. All right,
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(35:54):
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(36:18):
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The numbers to reach us or five O two five
seven one eighty four eighty four or one eight hundred
four four four eighty four eighty four. In that regard,

(36:40):
we got Kyle Colley from Farmington, Kentucky on the line here.
Hey Kyle, Welcome aboard and happy holidays sir.

Speaker 9 (36:49):
Happy holidays, mister Jim. How's it going?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
It couldn't be better? Really. It's hunting season and fishing
has been pretty good. So I'm a happy camperor. Have
at you.

Speaker 14 (37:01):
Oh, doing doing great, just wrapping up the holidays here,
and uh, I want I wanted to follow up a
little bit with the second caller there, mister mister Dennis.
So I'm I'm over here in the one of the
original five counties of the of the c w D
zone when you know, when it first came into the
state of Kentucky, uh, where they put the restrictions out.

(37:24):
And so my my personal business has been a c
w D check station for the last I believe three years,
and and there's been hundreds and hundreds of deer checked
in and I don't know of one, you know, confirmed case.
I think the this year our biggest threat was e
h D. I work in agriculture and just within a

(37:48):
five mile radius right here of my house, my through
my customer base, I know of eighteen uh deer that
were found you know, had some some relating to water
and some some are not. They were out in the
middle of a bean field or a cornfield, just just.

Speaker 9 (38:10):
Just laying out there.

Speaker 14 (38:11):
Nothing, no bullet holes, nothing, not hit by a car,
just laying out, passed, passed.

Speaker 9 (38:18):
Away out in the middle of the field.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well, I want to echo on that, because EHD is
killing a lot more deer than CWD ever thought about.
Cwd's been around for more than fifty years. There's never
been a deer herd decimated by it anywhere in the
United States where it's being So I think that a
lot of this is hysteria and knee jerk reaction. I

(38:45):
was quite frankly, very disappointed in official Wildlife Commission initiating
the zone the way they did it over in Berekage
Meat and Hart County the way they did, especially because
they're not even doing check stations. I mean, that doesn't
make any sense.

Speaker 10 (39:01):
So, uh, just a little bit old Pyle.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Polly is a absolute.

Speaker 11 (39:08):
Cow astassin when it comes to thermals, and before he
gets off here, I would like to pick his brain
a little bit about kind of his specialty other than
being a phenomenal big deer hunter and waterfowl hunter and
turkey chaser.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
So, Kyle, what's.

Speaker 11 (39:24):
Going on in the thermal world with cal hunting?

Speaker 9 (39:29):
All right?

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (39:30):
Well, so, I mean it's that's uh, that's been the
new uh the new I guess you'd say, hottest topic
and growing sport in in Kentucky. I would say it's
uh thermal uh scope prices and the cost a few.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
Years ago was you know, it wasn't it wasn't for everybody.

Speaker 14 (39:51):
And now there's so many scope manufacturers that some of
these scopes that you can get are very reasonably price
with a with an exceptional image for a civilian and
some What I'm starting to notice now is you know,
some younger, younger guys, high schoolers or uh you know,

(40:13):
getting into the sport, which is great, but it's it's
really made it a lot tougher in the last couple
of years too. These coaches are starting to get really
educated on all the pressure that there's getting the tournament.
The Kyuti world has went to this tournament hunting like
a just like fishing tournaments. And I mean you can

(40:34):
you can almost find a tournament every weekend if you
wanted to some somewhere around the whether that's an online
tournament or a drive forty miles down the road and
get in an overnight one night tournament. And it's the
it's gotten a lot tougher.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
Over the last couple of years, but it's a it's.

Speaker 14 (40:51):
A good way to get out and introduce people to
the hunting world, that's for sure.

Speaker 11 (41:00):
It as a sportsman what the whole Ku hunting community
is doing for all of us, Chum. I know that
a lot of times people are known to have a
specialty and what they're known for either on the water
or in.

Speaker 7 (41:13):
The field, but there's a lot of us that are.

Speaker 11 (41:16):
Benefiting in great ways, especially with our small game populations,
because what these gals and guys are doing with their
thermals at night, and a lot of them are getting
up and going to work the next day. So my
hat's off to you, Kyle and appreciation for the sport
and what it's done to help us that get out
in the field and hunt a little bit more when
the sun's coming up versus.

Speaker 9 (41:41):
Yes sir, yes sir.

Speaker 14 (41:43):
That's That's something I enjoy is introducing people to the
sport and you know, taking taking people that want to
get into it but don't know how to get into it,
and it's it's kind of overwhelming when you sit down
and you look at the costs involved to get get
involved into the thermal the night side of it of

(42:03):
the I mean, you can go out fairly cheap on
UH and hunt couts during the day with you know,
hand calls and your favorite rifle and you know doesn't
cost very much, but you get into the night side
with the scanners and the scopes and the electronic collars
and the it just it adds up very quickly.

Speaker 11 (42:22):
Yeah, in our conversations back and forth too, Kyle, over
the years and our friendship and sharing places that we hunt,
it's it's been amazing to besides your work with thermal
imaging and kyout hunting. Everybody wants to go out there
and set a bunch of traps for the raccoons, But

(42:44):
me and you've talked a lot about how important it
is to control possums and skunks in general, just ground
nesting predators overall.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
Share with folks a little bit some of your success as.

Speaker 11 (42:56):
Far as what you're seeing and just recent gratification with
with your ability to trap even just on some of
your home properties and what's going on with your turkey population.

Speaker 14 (43:08):
Uh, just some farms that you know around home here
and some some even some bodies that got into the
thermal game a little bit and maybe wasn't having success
with the the kuti side of it, would still wanted
to get out and utilize their thermals as during the
couti or the coon hunting side of it, they started

(43:29):
driving down creek banks and around creeks. And uh, I've
noticed in the last couple of years that over here
in the western part of the state that our turkey
population has rebounded tremendously. And that's with you know, trapping,
the trapping the coons, the possums that in also putting

(43:50):
in with the thermal hunting and the couties and the
bobcats and everything that's been taking place on predator removal.
Our our our dear population is through the roof. Our
turkey population is rebounded tremendously. And you don't you don't
see the see the coons and the possums and the
nest rators like you like you used to in the

(44:11):
last i'd say five years.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, the trapping around these corn piles, for folks that
take the initiative to do it, has proven very effective.
We had a collar earlier in the evening here, Kyle
that talked about how the coons are concentrated because of
the feeding during deer seasons. Of course in your area,
there's some restrictions down in that western part of the

(44:35):
state on that, but that's uh. These dog proof traps
are so effective and easy to use that they're a
great asset. I don't want to put you on the spot,
but I do have a question for you. Yes, sir,
I'd like to know your thoughts about hunting bobcats at

(44:56):
night and or the bobcats season itself, because we're loaded
with bobcats. They're one of the worst predators on turkeys.
And do you have any thoughts about that one word
or others that you'd like to share.

Speaker 9 (45:10):
So I'll be honest with you, mister Jim.

Speaker 14 (45:12):
I'm not a I'm a The way I attack the
cold game is I'm a vocals guy. So I so
whenever I'm not a go out and play the rabbit. Uh. So,
I don't personally get to see a lot of bobcats
at night hunting because I am doing a lot of
Kyodi vocals. So that kind of takes me out of

(45:34):
the you know, even getting to see bobcats out out
of it pretty quickly when you when you're when you're
doing a lot of howling, and you know, I don't.

Speaker 9 (45:43):
I'm not a big rabbit birds prey to stress.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Uh guy.

Speaker 14 (45:48):
I'm a runner and the gunner and I'm I'm, I'm
there and quick and out quick, and bobcats usually tend
to take a little longer to you know, to come
in and.

Speaker 9 (45:59):
Don't really see just that many of them, to be
honest with you.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Well, with your hunting methods, I can certainly understand that.
Do you ever hear Chad about that amongst your brethren
that that you hang out with, any of them have
interest in it?

Speaker 9 (46:16):
You know, Yeah, there's there's interest.

Speaker 14 (46:18):
Everybody wants to you know, if you're a predator hunter,
you know, it's kind of one of them. Put a
loop in your belt, you know, you want to you know,
I got a Bobcat.

Speaker 9 (46:28):
It's you don't see them as much during the day.

Speaker 14 (46:31):
If you if you wanted to just go out and
try to call Bobcat during the daylight. I mean it's
that's uh, wear on your patients pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
But yeah, some of these.

Speaker 14 (46:43):
Younger guys that are maybe not having as much success
in the CAWDI game would love for it to be
where maybe the fox and the Bobcat would be opened
up because those are some of the guys that are
running some of the prey to stress that are having
the opportunity to see some other animals.

Speaker 9 (46:57):
Other than Kyle. Even then they're restricted on that, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Sure, okay, well, Kyle, I sure enjoyed you calling in tonight.
I hope you have a great holiday period and good
wishes to you and the family do it throughout the year.

Speaker 9 (47:14):
Yes, sir, thank you so much, and y'all have a
wonderful leaving.

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(48:02):
five oh two, five seven one eighty four eighty four
or one eight hundred four four four eighty four eighty four.
In that regard, we got Bryce Hensley on the Hold
Song from Indiana. Hey, Bryce, happy holidays. I'm doing just

(48:22):
fast over you. Yeah, thanks much. What would you like
to talk to us about tonight?

Speaker 13 (48:28):
Bryce, Well, Scott Crohn and asked me to be on
tonight and we can talk about a few things. And
one thing I want to kind of hit on is
EHD and deer. I live in north central Indiana. We've
been hit pretty hard here. Southwest Michigan also hit very
hard with EHD, and you know that talk about CWD.

(48:49):
EHD has killed way more deer than that, and I
wish that they would work on that issue and try
and get rid of the midges that are causing this problem.
It's been kind of frustrating this year, not just for me,
but for many Hoosiers and Michiganders on their hunting. But
you know, with that being said, every day outside is

(49:11):
enjoyable for me. I love it no matter what. I
always learned something that every experience, But you know, I
just it is part of life these days with that,
and hopefully they'll focus on that here in the near future.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yes, sir, it's it's It can be devastating I know
that Walbash River Basin over in your area really got
hammered this time for some reason.

Speaker 13 (49:33):
Yep, yep, definitely. You know, with that being said killed,
we've had big gear killed.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Beer go ahead, Oh yeah.

Speaker 13 (49:43):
Well we've got some big gear killed here. One one
in particular, a local to me, Steph Hernandez. He killed
a two hundred and eighty four inch non typical and
velvet which was unheard of and it is they they're
saying that it's the number four in the world and
it will be the number one crossbow kill. He's a

(50:06):
big archery hunter, but he killed this one with the crossbow.
This buck is unique that it's a buck. It's got
all the nail everything except no testicles. But it's a
monster local to us. And I just wanted to give
a shout on that because it's an incredible bock And
go ahead, Scott, I.

Speaker 11 (50:27):
Was gonna pick your rain a little bit about the
EHD in the Indiana deer season overall, how do you
feel like the residents took the you know, last year,
you all got the prestige accomplishment of being recognized as
you know Boone and Crockett State and just just wanting

(50:47):
to see overall how the residents are as far as
their wealth and happiness with deer hunting in their own state.
That's something that's important to the Gemini that residents aren't
pushed to the side.

Speaker 9 (50:57):
For the for the non residents. Even know both you
and myself.

Speaker 11 (51:01):
And Jambler, we're non resident hunters. How is the I guess,
how's the overall rapport with with d n R and
in the Indiana license Hoders, Well.

Speaker 13 (51:12):
We have a healthy deer herd here some areas is
kind of spotty, which you know, we used to be
able to kill eight dos in this county, you know,
ten years ago, and several years ago it was an
outcry from the locals, the resident hunters that hey, we're
not seeing the deer numbers like we used to. So
they kind of modified. Now you're going to kill two
in this county. You know, other counties might be two,

(51:33):
it might be four, might be one. You know, the
urban zones of course, they're just loaded up and they're
just needing more deer killed there, which I will be
partaking in here here soon. But uh, you know, overall
the state Northern Indiana has been really good hunting, but
with the EHD, you can tell that there's not a
lot of big bucks that it had in the years past,

(51:55):
even though there are being killed. But southern Indiana, you know,
it's better overall hunting for bigger bucks. You know Switzerland
County counties like that down there that you know, it's
not that far of a driver for someone like yourself
versus coming all the way to northern Indiana. But you know,
overall the hunting has been really good here in Indiana.

(52:18):
You just you know, if you want to kill a
big buck, you got to hold out for I passed
on several deer here this year. I passed on one
hundred and forty inch deear with a drop time and
looking back, you know he he had EHD. I had
videotaped him and took some pictures and showed to a
few people. I hope he makes it. That would be

(52:39):
great to see him again next year.

Speaker 11 (52:43):
What's going on with our AMMO supply? And I guess
popular subgages. You're in the world of loading custom ammunition.
And I'll always look up to you to yep, you know,
get honest and sound advice. Where are we at now
into twenty twenty five with predictions of components and pricing

(53:04):
for Ammo, And what are you seeing in popularity game
with the subgages, especially twenty eight.

Speaker 13 (53:11):
Gauge right on. Well, I own fox Tart AMMO and
custom load Tungsten, super Shot, Turkey Amo Waterfowl AMMO, Coyote
Predator Ammo, et cetera. I'm not having a hard time
buying components right now. Thankfully, over the summer, you know,

(53:32):
I bought as much as I could. And powder also
now some of the powder has become kind of hard
to find because of the nitro cellulars issue, because of war,
et cetera. And there might be other factors that I
don't know about. Just the outdoors who own several of
the AMMO companies. They own a powder company called a
liont and they back in May put out a bulletin

(53:55):
that they were stopping selling to any distributors because they
were going to use Naxal sellulos for their AMMO companies.
So who knows what's going to happen in the future.
I hope it's not a big deal that you know,
it'll become readily available again wait and see, I guess,
but uh, you know, I've been loading waterfowl shells like crazy,
and you know it's kind of winding down. I'm really

(54:17):
seeing an uptick now for the turkey, Ammo and and
one in particular. I know we kind of maybe I
think we hit on it a little bit last year
when we talked the twenty eight gauge on the subgages.
You know, four to ten has been very popular for
many years. The twenty eight gauge is increasing, you know
a little more every year for me and especially people

(54:39):
wanting three inch, which I just started carrying a three
inch version of that. But you're seeing a lot more
people gravitating to the twenty eight gauge because you're not
losing anything from that from a twenty gauge, you know,
out the fifty yards, it's you're shooting the same basic pattern.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Cool brush very quickly. Any subject you'd like to hear
more about in the coming year, you.

Speaker 13 (55:03):
Know, predator hunting and all right, you know, not just
Cayo bobcab, but raccoons. I would like to see a
lot of nest raiders, raccoons, et cetera, skunks, everything. I
like to see a lot more people get into that
there and uh, you know, on the off season, whether
or not deer honting or turkey hunting or waterfowl hunting.

(55:24):
I think that would help in the long term.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Okay, very good, sir, Well, thanks so much for calling
me in. Happy holidays to you and your family.

Speaker 13 (55:32):
Get Happy year to you all.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Thank you, sir. All Right, folks, got to go to
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(55:59):
eighty four here, five two Area and eight hundred and
four four four eighty four eighty four. Let's go down
to Trevor, who's calling from London, Kentucky. Trevor, Happy holidays, brother, Yes, sir,
I sure can't. Happy holidays to you.

Speaker 15 (56:21):
Thank It's the same to you. How's it going.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
It's going great, going, just great. I've been doing some
small game hunting and had a good deer season and
looking forward to getting out a lot here, a lot
more here as we go through the holiday period and beyond.
How about you?

Speaker 15 (56:39):
Same here. I've been getting all I can until the
end of January and then I'm no be waiting on
spring turkey season after that.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yes, sir, so what would you like to talk to
us about tonight?

Speaker 15 (56:53):
I've got invited on by Scott And I met him
at Fort Campbell five or six years ago when I
was stationed there. He was after a turkey hunting and
I met him, and uh, we stayed in touch ever since.
And I know he's a huge conservationist and a big outdoorsman,
and I look up to him kind of as far
as conservation and put back into the wildlife and still

(57:15):
have a long way to go, you know. But he
was talking about and told me to maybe mention just
populations and stuff. I grew up hunting ever since I
was in diapers here in southeast Kentucky, and I killed
my first turkey in first or second grade. And you know,
growing up, we had a lot of private land that
we hunted on. And it like during turkey season back

(57:38):
back then, up until probably twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, is
they were turkeys everywhere. I mean, it was nothing to
see in every farm field you passed down here to
see sixty or seventy turkeys in the flock during the
winter and during the spring. You know, it was it
was which bird are you're gonna go after? And now

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there's still plenty of birds to hunt. You know, are
still successful. But I don't know what has caused it
over the last seven or eight years, but there has
been there's been a big decline in the turkey population
down here. We still get on birds, you know, but
it's not doubling up every Saturday and Sunday morning of
opening weekend.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
You know.

Speaker 12 (58:17):
I've had to start.

Speaker 15 (58:17):
Resorting to hunting in the evenings, hunting, hunting birds, coming
to the rue, hunting all day long, putting miles in
the boots and everything. And I've had to kind of
relearn how to hunt the turkeys down here all over again.

Speaker 9 (58:31):
Pay tuvor it's Scott.

Speaker 11 (58:32):
What's what counties are you primarily hunting? So that the
listeners can know.

Speaker 15 (58:38):
I hunt right on the Laurel and Knox County line.
Since I got an army and moved back here, Scott.
I live on my wife's family's farm and it actually
borders some of the Daniel Boon National Forests. About three
quarters of the farm that borders the National Forest, and
I've been doing a lot of deer and turkey hunting

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on it. And it's in the Cold Hill area. If
you've been down there, and it's just straight up down
cliffs and big deep hollers and stuff, and that's a
whole different kind of hunting to me. I've not been
successful with a turkey on the public lan yet. I
have harvested a few good deer. Actually, the biggest deer
I've ever killed in my life came off of the

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public plan that I access through through this farm we
live on.

Speaker 11 (59:21):
Now, well, we know that the predators are definitely having
an impact, no matter if you're in the hills or
Haulers or the flat ag grounds of the state. But
I guess the question I have for you is what
do you think about the huntings pressure over on the
boon in some of the public areas.

Speaker 9 (59:39):
Are you seeing where.

Speaker 11 (59:41):
You know there's plenty of ground and plenty of wildlife
to go around, or are we getting to the point
where it may not be sustainable and have to look
at like more quota type draws or more regulations for
both the residence and the non residence.

Speaker 15 (59:57):
I believe for deer around my area in this county
and the Danga Boon National Force that I go on to.
I think there's plenty of deer to go around, just
because of the terrain. A lot of guys, you know,
it's such tough terrain. A lot of the men and
women that hunt it, I don't think, really want to
put in the effort to go find the mature deer
and the actual you know, as they get pressured, they

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don't want to fall on them back into these deep,
deep places to get to you know it it's hard
walking up and down some of these cliffs. I've not
been to all the wildlife management areas within Kentucky, you know,
I've just kind of stayed around local within a few counties.
I took a trip to Illinois this year. One of
my buddies I was in the Army with he lives

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up there and I was able to stay his house
and I hunted some public plan archery hunting up there,
and the WMA's they have up there in Illinois. I
don't know if it, you know, it could have just
been the one that I was on, but the whole
state park was such more well managed. They had they
had all kinds of lanes cut and they had different
crops and stuff cut, and they're planet and all this,

(01:01:04):
and it just it felt like they were doing something
for the wildlife. And down here, like even on the
wm As, just not the National Forest, the wm Ads.
You know, you go out and there's there's no crops
that I found there's It just don't seem like they're
doing any hinge cutting or anything to improve the habitat.
It just seems like, you know, they on the land

(01:01:25):
and you're allowed to access it. As far as the
turkeys go, there's a lot. I noticed probably more out
of state hunters coming down here for the public lane
hunting in Lawl County than I do. The end state
hunters is just as far as looking at faiths on on trucks,
and it's not a bad thing, you know. I think

(01:01:46):
I think over the since COVID, more and more people
have started hunting, getting into it and stuff, and I
love to see it. But on the foot side of that,
I think it's put more pressure on animals. And obviously,
you know, as the more people that buy tags, you know,
more people that's going to harvest animals, and I think
that the fish and wildlife is going to have to
do something to counteract that and keep up with it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
No doubt we Trevor.

Speaker 11 (01:02:09):
I appreciate the compliments, and compliment back to you and
Jim and everybody else that's listening to all of our
veterans for where they've served on. A link up with
you sometime this spring and we'll get out and chase.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
The turkey together.

Speaker 11 (01:02:22):
But enjoy our friendship, and I hope twenty twenty five
is a blessing to you.

Speaker 15 (01:02:28):
Same to you, Scott. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Guys at the holidays, Jeeves Trevor. All Right, folks, let's
go to Greg Myers calling from South Carolina.

Speaker 16 (01:02:37):
Hey, Greg, how are you not good?

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I'm doing great, buddies. The holiday's been fantastic. I'm getting
to do a lot of hunting, so life's good.

Speaker 16 (01:02:49):
That's good to hear. It's been a while since I've
got to talk to you. Of course, I so hunt
a little bit with Scott and see him, but I
adn't talked to you since I was on. I think
that was close to two years ago now. So yeah,
every now and then, I don't I don't get to
listen every single week, but I do try to keep
up with you. I'm just glad to be back on.

Speaker 11 (01:03:09):
You've had a great hunting season, and uh, it wasn't
that long ago you were standing in line throwing that
cash across the counter on a new saddle hunting set up.
And I don't know if you've killed all of them
from the ground, but tell us a little bit about
your travels in a quick manner.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Well, I actually what you got them, all right?

Speaker 16 (01:03:33):
So yeah, I've had, like you said, I've had a
really good season. Definitely attribute a lot of that to
the I'm not going to call it a new mobile
hunting trend, but a lot of people are kind of
starting to see that, you know, that's the way to
go on these public, public hunts and you know, trying
to get near some thicker stuff and the whole summit

(01:03:53):
climber doesn't always get you in the tree that you
want to get in now, of course ninety percent of
the time. But having that, uh, that other option to
be able to pretty much get in any trees really
really helped me out this year. I've killed a couple
of them off the ground and the first one was man,
just just a public land spot in in Georgia that

(01:04:17):
no real trees to climb, sitting on the ground chasing
a dough and shot him and that kind of got
my season started. But that was a little bit late.
That was late October, and then I went to Illinois.
I've got a small leaf in Illinois and opening morning
kind of got in some thick stuff. All the all

(01:04:37):
the other guys that hunt around the same farm and
the other other farms nearby kind of getting on these
big open cut fields. It was cut beans this year,
and I just got on the edge of some thick stuff,
nasty briars, uh, green briar stuff, and shot about a
high one sixties buck opening morning. So it's just kind

(01:05:01):
of one of those things that you know, if you're
if you're getting those telephone pole trees, well nothing under
them that those big deer don't hang out in that
all day. So getting in that nasty stuff and being
able to get up anywhere really really helped my Illinois
season for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Cool cool, Well, Greg, I appreciate you being on with us.
I hope you have to continue to hunt through the year.

Speaker 16 (01:05:24):
What's next for you, Well, of course, Turkey season's coming up.
I'm finalizing some last few last few designs. I'm gonna
have some new mounts out this year for Meadow Creek Mounts.
Of course we make the rib mounts for shotguns. That's
a lot of the optic stuff that we talked about
last time I was on. But the show season starting
up for me February first, so the nine day Harrisburg

(01:05:48):
Show is going to be uh long show. And then
right after that it's the NWTF convention. So I'm show
season starting up. Got some new stuff that's gonna come out.
It's gonna be really cool. So hopefully, I don't know.
I haven't talk to Scott about whether or not he's
going to be there this year, but hopefully i'll run
into him before we try to link up this spring
and do a little bit of hunting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Okay, how'd I know? That was what I said. I'll
be there proudly.

Speaker 9 (01:06:21):
I'll let you by dinner the first night.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Greg, Hey, that works all right? Great, tel folks out
and look you up real quick before we go to break.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:06:30):
You can just find me on on Facebook, Instagram or
online Meadow Creekmounts dot com. We uh, we appreciate it. We're,
like I said, getting some new stuff. Out this year
that people are gonna be excited. We're really excited about
people be excited about. So you can see us at
either one of those shows or just find me online.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yes, sir, Well, happy holidays, we'll.

Speaker 16 (01:06:51):
Get back Christmas. Hope you got that a good Christmas and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
It was great. All right, folks, gotta go to break here.
This break is presented by S and my Marine. Go
see them. They got great deals on twenty fours twenty
five's along the way. There's buying any centives there as well.
Remember you never get soaked at SMI. Okay, folks, we
got Barry calling from Louisville. Hey, Barry, can you hear

(01:07:18):
me and tell you sir, I'm doing great you.

Speaker 12 (01:07:23):
Yes, back to you and all those outdoorsmen, men and
women out there. Yeah, you were talking about stoves, and
I enjoy all your shows, but I was wondering if
maybe you could do a show on how to dress
going into a hunt, whether it be deer or small

(01:07:45):
game and that type of thing. For instance, I know
I dress really warm when it's cold deer hunting. By
the time I get to my stand, I'm sweating. Yes, sir, Well,
maybe you had some information or some.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Actually, Actually, my co host, Scott Growner is an expert
in that field. He works with a lot of those manufacturers,
and we can certainly do that. As a matter of fact,
we've been discussing a show about that and we'll probably
get to that here Charlotte with the cold weather coming.
So appreciate the suggestion. And happy holidays to you.

Speaker 12 (01:08:26):
Sir, you too, sir, Thank you joining the show so much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Thank you, Barry, really appreciate you call. Let's go to Nick,
who's calling from the Grange. Happy holidays, Nick.

Speaker 10 (01:08:38):
Well, thanks very much, appreciate the Oh, the show and
what you guys do. Like the other callers are saying,
I just wanted to throw a shout out to Oh,
several things I like about your show and something I
don't get a chance to listen to all the time,
but there's almost always something that I learned on your show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Well, that's fantastic, that's our goal.

Speaker 10 (01:09:09):
Yeah, you know a couple of things I'd like to
see more about. I think is always enjoyed the articles
and the stories with your buddy Gary Roman and uh
talking about the guns and the different calibers and the
best ones were kids and and the ladies and and

(01:09:30):
uh in all the shooting sports. Okay, all right, I
guess if you have you know, if I had a
wish list, I'd also like to, oh with a lot
of the bows that come out, you know, the setups
that a lot of people are using these days, and uh,

(01:09:52):
some of the new equipment. And then you know, I
think there's a you kind of nailed it on the
head when you talked about the the varmits, the Bobcats,
the coyotes. I know, on our trail cameras, we used
to get maybe one or two pictures a year of
a bobcat, and that's running thirteen cameras, and now we

(01:10:14):
get we get Bobcat pictures on every camera.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
What area are you getting those pictures from? If you
don't mind saying.

Speaker 10 (01:10:24):
Green River area, Taylor County.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Okay, Okay, very good sir, Well net Happy holidays to you, buddy.
I appreciate your suggestions and we'll certainly put them in
the hopper and do the best we can to carry
those forward for you. Well.

Speaker 12 (01:10:41):
Thanks.

Speaker 10 (01:10:41):
We appreciate all your shows, and I especially appreciate the
when you've got the stories with the kids on there
and the grand kids. Uh, you know, that's the future
of our sport. And uh and and for those of
us that are lucky enough to get to do a
lot of hunting and fishing, then you know there's connections
with our creator and our families that it's like no

(01:11:04):
other sport. I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Well, I absolutely totally agree with you. It's funny you
mentioned that, because I'm sure you noticed in my laughter.
When I have the kids on, it just tickles me
to death. And the big thing I noticed about him
is these children that get to participate in outdoors are
very mannerly. They're well spoken, and my goodness there it

(01:11:28):
amazes me like a child we had on her or
he knew exactly what rifle he shot. He, you know,
was tickled to death that Jerry killed was a buck
that didn't have its handlers. That didn't matter to him.
He was just interested in that. So I'm right there
with you. I just love talking to those kids. It's

(01:11:48):
just the greatest going.

Speaker 10 (01:11:50):
And you know what, He's young and and we still
get just as passionate and excited about that. You know,
I'm sixty five and I listen to that and that
excitement is still there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
That's great. Well, Neck thank you so much for calling.
I hope you have a great holiday period and hope
you get out and enjoy the outdoors every minute that
you can.

Speaker 10 (01:12:14):
Pardon, thanks a lot, saying to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Okay, back at you. Well, that's a wrap. Scott's been
a great holiday show.

Speaker 11 (01:12:26):
It be fantastic in twenty twenty five to bring the
listeners what they want to hear about. And we've got
a lot of exciting things ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Jam you bet you. All right, folks have to rap
on this one. Really appreciate all the great calls and
the comments and suggestions, and as I said, we are
definitely in tune with that. Be careful out there through
the holidays. God bless everybody.