6-22-25 - Fishing Tips, Wildlife Management

Tonight Jim and Scott discuss the transition into summer with fishing tips, wildlife management techniques and ways to stay protected from sun and insects.  

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good evening. Everybody demonstrator here, Scott Kroner and I are here.
To share a lot of information with you tonight. We
have turned the page officially into summer. And if any
of you been outside, I'm sure you can agree. Here
it is brother, Here it is Scott. We got a

(01:23):
real duke's mixture kind of Shouldernight, we're gonna talk a
lot about summer conditions, what the amount of rain that
we had has set the stage for in a lot
of regards with farm crops, how that rolls over into
what deer and turkeys are gonna be doing. We're gonna
talk about some food plots. We're definitely gonna talk a

(01:46):
bunch about fishing. We're gonna talk about the reproductive efforts
of deer, turkeys, inducts, and geese, which is a bit
of an odd thing in many many ways. And we're
going to talk about how to protect yourself from insects
and the sun, which ought to be really on the

(02:08):
top of everyone's dial right now. This is the period
of the year when a lot of us are out
there a lot and there's a lot of problems that
can merge. And Scott's got some statistics about tick diseases,
and we're going to talk about ticks impacts on little
wildlife like turkey, polts, fawns, etc. So we're kind of

(02:33):
we're kind of like the potatoes at the waffle house
were scattered and smothered. But we're going to do our
best to bring you up to date in that regard.
I'm gonna go straight to break because we got a
really nice show for you and a lot of subjects
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(02:54):
of the Niner. And remember you never get soaked by
my friends at SMI. All right, folks, again, we're plunging
into summer. It's a time when so many of us
are outdoors for a variety of activities. Hiking, swimming, boating, fishing,
scouting for deer, just a myriad of things go on

(03:17):
this time of year. Scott let's lead off about how
people need to protect themselves from things that could really
be damaging to their lifestyle. For example, I unfortunately have
several friends that died from exposure to the sun. They

(03:38):
developed skin cancer and it took their life. I've got
other friends and family that have been rem wrecked by
tick diseases, and I personally have been impacted by several
types of those diseases from mosquitoes. So I think it's
appropriate that we tell people how it is to keep

(04:01):
yourself protected. And I'll let you lead in on that.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
We have so many things going on this time of
year that expose our hearing and our eyes and our
skin to be the target to so many different things.
And it's so easy now with the types of clothing
and the types of product that are out there to
guard and protect ourselves from harm, that there's no reason

(04:27):
not to be educated in more or less preventative medicine
when you look at what's out there facing us and
sun has been around for a long time with the
topic of skin cancer, and we know that over exposure
to that is not only possibly detrimental to us, but
it's painful. Whether it's a young child or an elder.

(04:52):
It doesn't take too much time in the field or
on the water to get a little bit of tenderness
to the skin because of being outside too long. And
the easiest way right now for us to bring awareness
to it, Jim, is just to look at how affordable
and cheap sunscreens are, how affordable and available there are

(05:14):
as far as consumer related products and clothing, and we
need to just start understanding and if we're going to
spend a lot of time outdoors, that we need to
not only just focus on our ears and our eyes
like we've been known for so long with ppe personal
protective equipment, but we've got to start looking at what
the sun and the insects can do to us. And

(05:36):
not only does this clothing and these types of sunscreens
give us a barrier to protect ourselves against skin cancer,
it also allows us to fight off a lot of
these pests from chiggers, ticks, and mosquitoes. And if folks
haven't been paying much attention to it, this alpha gaal

(05:56):
scenario that's going on in the state of Kentucky. Just
within the last fifteen years, we went from a matter
of a dozen cases being known and identified in the
medical community to fifteen to twenty thousand new cases being
reported a year, and it's increasing. And some areas that
sportsmen and women need to be considerate of is if

(06:20):
you are in the Ohio River Valley, cancer in the
form of skin cancer and vector borne diseases are increasing
and it's our job, Jim, to get it out there
to the listeners. Not just to enjoy the outdoors, but
to protect and guard their body medically.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yes, an alpha out, of course, for folks who may
not be familiar with it, is the ugly tick disease
that makes you allergic to meat, red meat, and you
think that in the curse. I've got several friends that
are indeed cursed by that, and it's horrible. So I
think it's fair to say to anyone who's been around me,

(07:04):
I can tell you I'm paranoid about tick. I don't
tolerate them. I protect against them. I'm constantly checking form
and there's several products out there that are available, and
I'll let you leave with that. And on the heels
of that, let's talk about sunscreens and that clothing that's
available now.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, when it comes to us and our pets, when
it comes to our canines and dogs along with us
as humans, we've got to start taking into consideration the
use of permethrone on our clothing and the use of
permethrone as far as guarding our dogs. We don't want
to do anything with our cats the feed line area.

(07:49):
We definitely need to be educated about that, but we
can do some of these preventative measures with our clothing.
But in the summertime, as a temperture warms up, our
clothing tends to back off, and so then that puts
us into the market of products to where we treat
our skin. And so anyone that's wanting to apply something

(08:15):
to the skin, they need to understand that we always
go with our sunscreens first to protect and guard with
that sun, and then we go into our products like
picarden or other types of application such as deets or
any type of topical sprays. We just need to make
sure that we realize that as we have advanced with

(08:39):
out there and available, a lot of folks are familiar
with Deep and it can cause some harm to plastics
and the surfaces and what it touches just because of
the chemical reactions. Pi Cardon is a newer product that
creates a better vapor and a stronger offset to protect

(09:03):
us from those insects and pests, with tests showing and
studies that it's just a better product overall than Deep.
So sunscreen first and then our insect prevention when it
comes to treating our skin, and when it comes to
treating our clothing and our dogs, we want to start
utilizing permethrone and anybody that has the problems with the

(09:30):
ticks in their yards, mosquitoes and some other pests, they're
able to go out there and utilize folks or get
information from folks through something like Bardstown Mills and others
where they can actually purchase chemical and get advice to
where they can even treat through yards and their living

(09:52):
areas in space where they can get out and enjoy
their decks or set outside next to their lakehouse and
not be dealing with pest. And as far as environmental concerns,
anybody that has the amount of gratitude towards working towards
a better process. It doesn't take long to do the

(10:13):
research to realize that a lot of these are just
synthetics that are coming from natural plants such as carthanthemums
and pepper plants. So it's a way in which we
can react with the nervous system of the insects and
not impact us. And if applied and utilized the right
way by the label, then it gives us a safe

(10:35):
barrier in our yards with our clothing and with our skin.
So clothing is no different. It's just a matter of
how these products have been developed and these fabrics have
been impregnated with these synthetic chemicals that help ward off
those pests that can make your days a field not
only miserable, but two weeks after a lot of scratching

(10:56):
and itching.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, I'm a guy that believes in up from the sun.
I had a conversation about this with my grandson's who
I had fishing here last week or so, and they
were like, well, I'm cooler without it. I said, well,
have you ever seen what are an arab in the
desert dresses? Like, if you really want to know how

(11:19):
to protect yourself from the sun, that's the way you
do it. You don't let your sun the sun hits
your skin in a concerted fashion and hats, shirts, pants
light colored, yet that are of a material that will
actually stop the penetration of the sun to your skin.

(11:42):
In my mind, is a big way to go. I
don't like slatting on lots of sunscreen. I'm not a
big fan of that. There. It is a chemical, so
you know less chemicals better. But I like your thoughts
on that clothing because it's made huge strides and now
it's very affordable of clothing.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
And when it comes to the summertime activities, it's more
important on the color of your clothing than the name
brand that's on the clothing. You're going to have. Predominantly,
polyester is going to be your number one material that
you see overall, and then of course you're going to

(12:22):
get into some of the options with wool. But just
think about how a black vehicle or a dark colored
item will collect or gather heat so much more than stay,
for example, something that is white or a silver and
we've known this for years. If you've ever owned a

(12:43):
cooler before, a white cooler and a boat will keep
ice a whole lot better. If you're comparing apples to apples,
same brand and same size cooler than say one that's
a darker color. So you can take somebody that maybe
is in a short sleep art colored T shirt and
they're gonna get more radiant heat from the sun than

(13:05):
somebody who's in a long sleeve, lighter colored shirt. And
we just need to understand how that works and why
it's being utilized. When you take the proper gear and
you utilize it out of the materials and the vending
that it has on it, you're going to realize very
quickly those wrists that are on these long sleeve shirts

(13:27):
tend to be more open. The next tend to have
a little bit more of an opening, but an overlap
on the back and underneath. The armpits and the hot
spots of the body off have more pitting or more
events that are there available to them, and the pants
are the same way. And it's very important that folks

(13:48):
stay hydrated. They don't get themselves in too much of
a problem. I can tell you right now. I've been
down in Florida on the coast all week and listening
to emergency and first frees Fonder radios. There was a
whole lot more people that were dealing with heat exhaustion
and sunburn issues than having to worry about jellyfish or sharks.

(14:10):
And it's no different we're on our Kentucky waters or
Indiana waters. You've got to keep your body temperature down
low and you're trying to keep yourself protected from possibly
being a victim of skins cancer. So you know, utilize
wool and polyester, but more importantly be you know, thinking
about what colors you're gonna get dressed in and go

(14:32):
out in, and don't be afraid to wear a little
bit larger brim hat that has us circumference that protects
not only your neck and shoulders, but your nose, your ears,
your forehead, and your face. Because any of us that
have friends or family gym that have had associations with
with skin cancer, we do know that our arms and

(14:54):
our hands, and our face, our ears, our noses, all
those layers of our body are more prone and succeptible
because of just how they're exposed in the amount of
time that they're out in the sun. And this comes
to not only are people that are in the field
hunting and fishing, this comes to a lot of the
folks that are out there driving America making it what
it is. And that's just people getting up and going

(15:15):
to work every day and are earning an honest living.
That it doesn't have any type of filter as far
as who it can hit or who it can impact.
It's just an important subject matter and work at that
time of year that we need to advocate for prevention.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yes, sir, absolutely everybody knows. We've had a tremendous amount
of rain this year, and there's various aspects that we're
going to discuss about that. But the reason I'm bringing
it up is a discussion unit I have had, and
that is that the rain has created a very lush

(15:52):
environment out here about It's lush on clovers and various
types of trees, anything you want to talk about, really
salt is very moist for this time of year. However,
I want to pass along something that I've seen since
I've been around for quite a while now, and that

(16:13):
is a lot of times a super wet spring and
a prolonged wet spring will turn later into very hot
and dry summer. And I'm very curious to see how
that's going to go forward. I'm not saying we're going
to have one, but I'm saying we're very likely too,
because on average, in years when I've seen this kind

(16:37):
of rain last this long, for some reason, mother nature
drives up to spicket about the time that we need it. Now.
Having said that, this is going to set the stage
for some pretty unique things that we'll talk about in
detail here a little bit. For example, the ability to
spray of our fields. You know, it's been so wet

(16:59):
and so windy for so long that this coming week
on average, should provide an actual time for field spring
leading into the next weekend and perhaps beyond that's something
for folks that haven't been able to spray for weeds
and door grasses in their food plots, they better be
ready to pull the trigger because they've got a golden opportunity.

(17:22):
It's also set the stage four a little later cutting
of hay and planting of beans and what have you.
And this has helped, i think, in some regards our
fawn and pulse survival, because now a lot of the

(17:43):
polts are up and moving, and the fawns certainly are
most of the fauns i'm seeing now very mobile. They're
not as apt to, you know, laying from the morning machine.
I'm not saying they won't, but it's too a much
lesser degree than it has.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Been to a point right now where there's going to
be a whole lot of equipment getting in and out
of the field because people are against the time clock.
And it's good that our wildlife has kind of gotten
through that major part of their beginning of when they
are most successful to being caught up in equipment, and

(18:19):
hopefully things will work out for the better of that.
But when we get back from the break in, we'll
talk a little bit about what we're seeing and those
numbers and where we're getting some mixed reports and we've
got some concerns coming on with fond mentality and fatality.
And we'll even talk a little bit about how those
tics can possibly a little bit more of a row

(18:41):
on some of our fawns and younger species of different
varieties of wildlife from what the research is showing to
some of our brothers and sisters in the Northeast with
some of the game and fish departments, and unfortunately finding
out that ticks are being fit tape fatality to the offspring.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, and that's something that's unfortunately getting worse and worse.
You know, I were talking about it for the show.
Ticks are so thick and prevalent that it's just crazy anymore. Again,
you don't want any of those tick diseases. Line disease
can give you heart condition, hearing loss, all kind of

(19:23):
ongoing problems. That alpha gal makes you allergic to red meat,
excuse me, shoot me. So we'll give you kind of
a rundown on that effects on wildlife because it is
becoming a much larger problem something that you and I've
been monitoring for years because we follow those studies from
around the country. All right, folks, got to go to

(19:45):
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a little bit about the amount of rain and what
it portends for things going forward, and it's set the

(20:09):
stage for some pretty good stuff, particularly again the delayed
cutting a hay, which hopefully has enabled a good significant
amount of polts into our falls to survive that process.
Like you say, farmers got to do what they gotta do.
It's money, and I understand it and I get it. However,

(20:35):
these late beans are gonna be great for deer hunters,
and there's several aspects we all talk to about that,
and there's other regards of what that set the stage for.
Let's jump into it.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Well, in the parts of the country that have wheat
to be harvested for grain, it's been a major setback
with whether just to get the wheat in the heart.
Harvest planning's been delayed in several different areas because of
not only the amounts of rain, but just times in
which the rain has come and then Hay's been set

(21:11):
back and it just it's snowballed into a big nasty
mess of not enough time to get everything done, and
things had to be prioritized, especially with those folks that
are in diversified crop production or have more than one
had in the in the equation as far as where

(21:31):
they're drawing their income in from agriculture production. But where
that's going to benefit a lot of hunters is when
it comes time now to start scouting and looking for
that potential of harvesting of velvet buck or finding those
big bachelor groups of deer. With our deer season opening

(21:55):
up this year a little bit later on the sixth
of septeen, it may give us just that little bit
of an edge compared to that Labor Day weekend that
sometimes we can get in on for the early archery opener.
It's going to give us the advantage to capitalize on

(22:16):
getting these deer that are still utilizing the green sotoy
beans that are left and most of the time, because
of the maturity dates of the early season beans, they've
already started to drop their foliage and go through the
drying process. And it's not even uncommon for some beans
to already be harvested now because of the varieties that

(22:39):
are out there by the opening of the archery season.
So it's just going to allow for a lot of
acres to have the potential to hold a whole lot
of deer. And I even expect this to play in
the sum type of impact or effect as far as
how our early archery season harvest goes. Because bring no

(23:01):
question to this part of Kentucky's hunting plan. We have
a lot of people who do pick up the stick
and string for the first few days of season and
then kind of let things settle back down until temperatures,
you know, get back down into more traditional hunting ranges.

(23:21):
So we've got some opportunity there to really capitalize not
on just the deer jim, but a lot of these
areas that still haven't been planted. These couchs are pretty hungry,
they're out, they're about, they're doing their thing, especially with
the fine numbers being on the ground and a lot

(23:42):
of these young coats that are kind of getting out
and being a little frisky. So it opens up a
lot of predator hunting too, and you can eliminate what
ground you have to hunt because of the fact of
what's going on, and those cut hayfields create awesome opportunities
to get out there and to have some longer range shots.

(24:04):
When that is typical this time of year, that limits it,
and it's very common for a lot of these pieces
of equipment to not only get funds and other animals
caught up in them, but there will be possums and
raccoons and a lot of different creators out there that
can sustain death or an injury. And those coyoats, they

(24:27):
and other predators, they definitely take advantage of that mechanical
agricultural operation that's impacted some wildlife game and non game
species to become easy products for their diet. And so
it's pretty easy to catch ol coat, you know, out
there kind of mousing around or looking for an easy

(24:47):
quick meal after a hay harvester or after some wheat
being harvested or straw being cut.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yes, sir, no doubt about it. We briefly mentioned the
for the break, the problems with ticks and the young
of the year critters, whether it be you know, polts,
turkey polets, whether it be young rabbits especially or fawns.

(25:17):
The mortality studies that are coming out of the northeast
where to your point, Scott, I'll let you carry that freight.
Even young moose are dying from these ticks, drawing their
blood supply down, and the amount of tics that are
out there now, you and I have a huge concern

(25:39):
about what this carries over into our wildlife here because
we're rapidly escalating in tick numbers. And talk about what
you guys are seeing on their trail campus. I mean,
these tics are They're bad this year, really bad.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, we have an infestation problem, and cameras have been
around a lot longer than ten years, and so of
deer and so of ticks. But it's not uncommon now
to view your trail camera pictures and see where these
deer their ears are just completely saturated with tick infestation.

(26:18):
We are learning more and more. Even ten years ago,
the Quality Deer Management Association, if you kept up with
any of that, ten years ago, they were reporting that
upwards to thirty percent of funds that were dying in
the first few months of their life, that thirty percent

(26:38):
of that population was because of tick infestation. That's back
in twenty fifteen. It's twenty twenty five. We've got states
such as Maine, We've got research going on up through
New Brunswick and all through the East Coast as far
as what it means as far as the death rate

(26:59):
to these young animals. So I just look at it
with some common sense and think, if ticks are in
a level of infestation where they're killing moose, then that
means that they're probably killing elk calves, They're probably killing
our rabbits, They're probably impacting a lot of our small
game species. And here's the big thing that me and

(27:22):
you didn't have a whole lot of time to talk
about this week, but it definitely needs to be something
that we both learn on move forward with, and that
is that they are stampling ticks now that are testing
positive for CWD. And this is to me, it's one
of the most important areas that we need to kind

(27:45):
of turn and put our focus into, because unlike production livestock,
where you can use management practices to help offset tests
and have a pest management program, I firmly believe that
we are in the demand as far as people who
care about wildlife where we do need products and we

(28:07):
do need to advocate for the supplemental use of minerals
and feed that will help ward off these pests in
the diet, and a nutritional plan to our game species,
both game and non game, to help them defend themselves
and ward off such pests as the tics. And as

(28:29):
we continue to develop and fight or battle or come
to agreements through CWD practices and concerns with any of
our dear species, I do believe that it is the
responsibility of all of these game agencies to step up
and put more time, energy and efforts into not only

(28:53):
doing research, but coming to us with their data about
what these vectors mean to the species of wildlife that
we care so much about and how them. We know
that we're increasing fifteen to twenty thousand cases of tick
born disease such as alpha gal just in the state

(29:15):
of Kentucky alone. Who knows what the true impact is
amongst our rabbit communities in the ecosystem and what's being
spread out there. Because blood born illness and tick born illness,
all of these things. No matter if you've got a
degree in veterinary medicine or not, we all realize that
parasites have a negative relationship more times than not when

(29:40):
it comes to impacting one species to another. And as
these vectors such as tics leave one species, they go
over to another species. And who's to say that these
do nottic diseases don't need more time, dollars and energy
and efforts from all of our state gain departments, ex
offcially in the south central area of the United States.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yes, sir, got to go to break here real quick
before I do share that information about where you live,
Newlenberg County is with tick disease.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Well, unfortunately we were ranking right there. The numbers change
pretty often, but Mulenberg County in the state of Kentucky
right now is holding the number one spot for alpha
gale cases that have been medically reported through medical testing.
And that's not something that you necessarily want to be
dominant in in number one.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
And if you know what I mean, absolutely all right, folks,
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at SMI Scott. We had mentioned a little earlier about
the mowing practices going forward, especially in regards to a

(30:53):
lot of the native plants in the late season, types
of plants that are very beneficial for wildlife. Let's take
a dive into that.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Most importantly right now, with the amount of rain and
the delayed mowings we've had, we've been able to see
a lot of our warm season grasses and warm season
vegetation prosper because it has had the opportunity to grow
long enough and finally meet this window of June, July
and August where they flourish. And a lot of these

(31:29):
plants that a lot of times people call weeds our natives,
and they are fantastic habitat for our pollinators and especially
provide a lot of cover for our game and nine
game species. And if folks can get through the process
of learning to wait until they mow or mowing at

(31:52):
a better and more optimal time for wildlife, we'll all
do ourselves a service to be better stewards of the land.
And what we're getting at here is part of the
best management practice. May be instead of mowing the whole field,
do something known as strip mowing, where you mow a
strip that allows you to have access to walk down

(32:13):
to your pond, or to ride your side by side
or four wheeler, or even mow a path wide enough
to allow a pickup truck or whatever to maneuver through
the property, but not mowing everything. And when you look
at the cost of fuel, wearing tear on equipment, when
is the best time to mow? Well, right now, these

(32:34):
plants have the most strength and they have the most
fiber that is available to them to uphold their life,
whether they're annuals or perennials. And so if folks do
want to mow and want to know the best time
to mow in regards to time and cost efficiency with

(32:57):
wearing tear on equipment and fuel costs, it's after these
plants have gone through a significant period of frost, and
even then if folks want to wait until just right
before next year's warm up coming out of winter. What
a lot of these fields that folks call overgrown offer

(33:19):
is they provide habitat with thousands of seeds that are
available where the plants have been able to mature. It
provides thermal cover. It provides a unlimited amount of canopy
that a lot of our small game species need. Because
later in the year we'll talk about what's going on

(33:41):
with our raptors from owls and hawks and the increasing
amount of eagles. There's more after our critters than lead
bullets and pointed arrows. And our job is conservationists and hunters,
is to make sure these creatures have the habitat and
what they need. So I'm advocating that if you can

(34:01):
let the bush hogs set and rest this summer and.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Wait and dater on in February, you're going to get
a pat on the bike and two thumbs up for me.
We mow too much acreage in the state of Kentucky
that is phenomenal wildlife habitat and it is a mortgage
board of a food plot. It's not a monocultural habitat.

(34:27):
And trust me, from the golden rod to the ironweed
to the milk weed, and it doesn't matter if you're
into pollinators or growing great big antler deer. These plants
that we associate so many times with weeds are not.
They're Mother Nature's greatest potential to let wildlife flourish and thrive.

(34:50):
And we need to do a little bit better job
of keeping ourself in a mowing and maintenance practice gym
to where these best management practices can come through and
these acres of ground can provide better habitat than just
an aesthetically pleasing human mode field, no.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Doubt about it. We've just got a few moments left
here for me going to the next part of the program.
But let's talk about the spraying opportunities right now for
clover and some of these annual plots. It's a unique
window coming right at us as we speak.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
That clipping those clover plots is going to be right
here on us, and this clover is going to get
a tremendous amount of heat. It's very important over the
years whether folks have used a selective herbicide in their clover,
such as like post to shop around a little bit,
talk with your ag agent, your ag representative in your area.

(35:48):
There are several opportunities now as these herbicide costs have
gone up to look at some alternatives and some even
have some that are characteristics in a lower price tag.
So if you've been thinking about and getting out there
and clipping your clover patches back and doing a little springing,

(36:11):
make sure that you definitely do that, and by all means,
pay attention to the weather because these winds have just
offset so many days that could have potentially been used
to spray our clover plots.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Gym.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Even when it's dry. The winds not allowed us to
get out there and get them spread.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
No doubt. And with the heat and the evaporation we're
going to be facing, please be careful not to mow
your clover too low. You have to have a significant
amount of leaf left on each of those clover plans
for them to get through a hot, dry summer. And
I believe we're looking at one great advice, Scott, appreciate that.

(36:49):
All right, we're going to go to break here. This
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return to the conversation about the fawns, polts and some

(37:09):
of the other young critters out there. This time, you
and I had a very extensive network of super reliable
people that we utilize to give these reports. I want
to say that right out of the box and some
of the things that are coming through. Number one, antler
development has been pretty awesome. A lot of bucks are

(37:32):
already out to their ears, a lot of bucks are
already showing time length is significant, and it looks like
we're in for another great year in terms of overall
antler development if things continue forward the way they've started.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
No doubt as far as opportunity for new hunters. Our
male deer numbers are on the up, and that seems
to be pretty much across the state. Even in the
southern Indiana here in good numbers, and the areas that
were more in central Indiana that were hit pretty hard

(38:10):
by EHD last summer getting good reports. There not anything
near where the numbers were prior to the EHD, But
it's good that things weren't as detrimental as what we
thought at first. But antler development overall just seems like
the Fourth of July weekend is now to so many honors.

(38:35):
The utilization of trail cameras is about as common as
using a weapon to hunt deer or a firearm. But
we have seen where the rain, the warmer temperatures, the
amount of brows, all of those things have been in
favor not only for good antler development, but just good

(38:59):
overall body condition. And we can't forget about all the
mamas that are out there and all the other critters
that browse, that forage and that nutrient rich environment creates
a very good possibility at least for nutritional intake to
help with that clossroom when those animals are first born

(39:20):
and going through the lactation process and nursing. So it's
a very positive feature that the rain has provided a
lot for us and the deer. Do you know they
have enough character right now to where you can definitely
tell whether or not it would be a deer that
you would want to shoot or harvest, depending on what

(39:42):
you consider worthy of your tag. And I think folks
are going to be impressed with the way in which
bachelor groups are coming back together this year. A lot
of time is spent going down the road, Jim, and
you and I talk about it on the phone, just
like other hunting friends do, on what wildlife is doing.

(40:05):
And it seems like for the last several years, the deer,
whether it's been predation or just loss of habitat, it
seemed like something changed with how these bucks were running
in bachelor groups. And we started talking about it, me
and you went on one two or three months ago
when you could tell when the development of this velvet

(40:26):
was starting at the basis and offsetting protruding through the
hide layer of the deer that we were seeing bucks
back in traditional bachelor groups of you know, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen,
sixteen deer together coming out pretty early and congregating in
a way in which has been kind of absent the

(40:48):
last several years. And it's been very refreshing to get
out and utilize binoculars and spotting scopes to see these deer,
not just in soybean fields. Deer they browse, and a
lot of these hay fields they get out on a
lot of this natural ford, sometimes as much or more
than the soybeans. As we talked about prior to going

(41:12):
on the show, sweed beans may not be your best
place to glass deer in the near future. We've got
so many folks that depending on watching velvet bucks and
alfalfa and sueens, and with the development and GMOs and
different varieties of agricultural crops, where seeing where crops are

(41:33):
actually being genetically made and processed in the lab to
where these do not have the palability to where the
deer like to eat them as much as the older
traditional varieties, and a lot of farmers are taking advantage
of that, and I don't blame them for doing so.
And it's important for individuals that are out there that

(41:54):
don't know about these new developments and GMO species of
soybeans and different types of forges to have that conversation
with the landowners that you hunt on. Just don't show
up on opening day, just ask them, hey, by chance,
are you using any varieties of soy beans that maybe
aren't as palable to deer and folks that don't have

(42:15):
that animal science or nutrition background. Palability is no more
than how well something tastes in the animal's diets, no
different than us whether we prefer pizza or tacos. And
if you haven't are taken in a conversation with some
of your landowners that you hunt on, I strongly suggest

(42:37):
that you do so, because I think folks are going
to be surprised that where that movement's going in the
future with these varieties of beans and forges that aren't
necessarily so friendly to wildlife. And I don't like the
fact that it's taken away from the nutritional resources that
are out there available to our deer because a lot

(42:58):
of those resources are extremely high in protein, especially when
you look at it as a forage on the beans
and the alf alpha but it's definitely something worth taking
note of. And if you haven't you got out to
do some glassing or riding around looking in the evenings,

(43:18):
I highly encourage you to do so, because the amount
of bucks that have been out and been present, especially
after a lot of these rains and the cooler air hits,
and it's just naturally that time where they move later
in the evening. It's nothing right now to take a
small drive around the house or to get out through

(43:39):
some agricultural country on some back roads and see eighty
to one hundred deer. So it's just a very good
time to get out and see deer numbers. Now, as
far as fawn numbers, it's a mixed bag. But I'm
getting more reports this year of lower fawn numbers than

(44:00):
than what we had last year. And we had a
substantial crop of fauns last year, it seemed like. But
overall this year, it seems between people's sightings with their
eyes and out and about, and the utilit be holding
just on power for average to maybe just a little
bit below average, uh, and that that can be pockety,

(44:23):
but overall, that's that's what the majority of landowners and
hunters are coming back with me, and that's what I'm
seeing myself.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
To Jim uh I echo that as well. I have
noticed that a lot of the deer that I was
watching that initially had two fawns are now down to one.
And that's something that I generally attribute to counts. Obviously,
vehicles and a lot of other things can enter into that.

(44:51):
But the cout predation on falls is just incredible, which
is another reason to participate in the summer period. You
can really reach some damage on couts that are to
your point earlier in the program. Cruising these fresh crop fields,
in these hay fields that are being mode because they're
going to be there turkey polts. It's a real mixed

(45:15):
bag from what I'm hearing from my folks, and I
will say this, kudos, big time kudos to the folks
that have taken upon themselves to trap their wildlife properties
because those are the ones where I'm hearing some of
the biggest POLP numbers. And this is across the state,
not just in an isolated instance. What do you hear.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I've been talking with a lot of my friends involved
with Turkeys for Tomorrow and NWTF that are both just
regular members and administrative people, meaning they're on paid staff.
Everybody's concerned about the weather, especially in the heart of
Turkey Country Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana. We had substantial

(46:05):
flooding along our rivers and creeks. So the verdict is
still to be determined on how successful those nests were
and how successful the pope numbers will be. So far,
POPE numbers are low from my data and the talks
with my people. But at the same time, I'm hoping

(46:29):
that those sightings and those numbers are a little bit
on the lower side because of this substantial amount of
vegetation that is out there, and those young turkey pots
are surviving and hiding in some of that taller vegetation.
But we'll talk a little bit later in the summer

(46:49):
when things heat up and we stopped doing so much
fishing about the surprising and alarming numbers gem of what's
going on with a lot of our song birds, nesting
birds in general, and how the statistics and the patterns
are lending towards It's just not turkeys that are facing
a decline in their numbers. There's several species of birds

(47:12):
that folks are starting to pay attention to. And the
research is starting to show that that avian species in
general have got some battles ahead of them, and we
have a lot of unsolved mysteries on what's going on
with our bird species.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yes, sir, we're gonna do a decent amount of programming
about that going forward. We're gonna change gears to fishing
right after this break. A lot of things that we're
gonna report for you about fishing. I've been on the
water lots. It's been on the water lot and uh,
just a lot of good things to come. So stick
with us. We'll be right back after this break. It's

(47:49):
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we're talking about all kinds of summer time activities. Since
there's indeed turned the page on the calendar, I want

(48:13):
to start off with one that's in decline and it's
a concern, and that is frog gigging. You know, that's
something that I enjoyed so much throughout my young adult life.
Nothing's better than frog legs to eat. I mean, those
jokers are like little morsels beyond compare one of the

(48:34):
most succulent wild foods there's out there. But there just
aren't many frogs anymore, and no one's sure why. But
it's something that concerns me because it means there's something
wrong with the environment.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Evolution, environmental factors, could be habitat, could be a lot
of things. But whether people enjoy gigging frogs or whether
they enjoyed shooting frogs, I mean, there's multiple ways in
what you can quote unquotet or fish for frogs. And
I say that kind of sarcastically because it used to

(49:16):
be that when you were younger, you really had to
kind of figure out if you had a PhD or
not figuring out if you needed a hunting or a
fishing license to go gig frogs. Well, right now you
don't need a PhD to figure out if you need
that license. What you need is we need some PhDs
and country boys and girls to come together and figure

(49:36):
out why there is such a limited availability of good
places to get out and frog gig and where it
used to be you know, people getting together with lights
and gigs and you know twenty two revolvers and pila
sacks or potato sacks or whatever your poon light special was.

(50:00):
Those talks are over anymore. It doesn't matter if you're
sitting around the local breakfast place eating fried ballooney or
biscuits and gravy, or sitting around the kitchen table or
at work. Nobody's got a spot that they can go
to consistently year after year and socialize with three, four

(50:23):
or five, six, seven eight people and get into a
mess of frogs. And folks have tried lots of things,
from even buying frogs. I've got some friends of mine
that have even tried to stalk their own bullfrogs from
some aquaculture producers down in Mississippi and bring them up
to their ponds, and it's not been real successful. But

(50:47):
we're losing a species as quick and as common as
a conversation of queill hunters, whether they were packing their
overs and unders or side by sides. And it's something
that I would like to know more about. And I'm
not an expert in, but I do think that we're

(51:09):
losing the tradition and the art in the South of
frog gigging in It's a sad point of our wildlife
history and conservation era.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
In my opinion, Yes, Sir, I totally agree, and I've
long been suspicious the way the sunlight has changed the
ozone levels, given the fact that frogs in sound unders
lay eggs that are exposed to massive amount of sunlight,
might be a part of that equation. Not saying that

(51:41):
it is, but it's sure something that I speculated about
the reason I do. The sun just didn't the same anymore.
Anybody that knows anything about paint or protecting cars or
anything can tell you the sun is much more intense
and has some detrimental effects, which I'm a little suspicious

(52:02):
might come into play there. It could be a lot
of things. It could be pesticides, it can be changes
in the water. But something is drastically wrong with those frogs, salamanders,
et cetera. It's not just the one species. Let's change here.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I was going to say it on a selfish note.
On a selfish note, you know, we're looking at it
as far as a lack of entertainment and food on
our table. But where you talked about that life cycle
with those frogs, it's not just an adult frog. Seeing
tadpoles is kind of a rarity anymore. And when you

(52:42):
look at what the impact is that frogs, toads, et
cetera have on that environmental ecosystem. It's a huge part
of that food chain and the food web, and whenever
one species is not there, then it's going to bring
pressure to another species, and it can bring declines even

(53:03):
and where other species can flourish. It it just changes
the dynamics of Mother nature and a lot of species
will capitalize on whatever's next in line, and so sometimes
that can be a positive and sometimes that can be
a negative, but it's there's definitely a major change there.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yes, sir, we talked about the rain and what it's
done in good things for a lot of the wild foods, etc.
In a retrospect. And what I mean about this is
on the back of the flooding and some of the
problems that's created, we've continued to have rains where most
of the lecture an excellent tradition in terms of oxygen

(53:46):
levels and aeration. And that's that's almost across the board.
I mean, anywhere in the whole region has been that way.
And we're still kind of on hold to see, you
know what. The spawting efforts were light, because man, I've
never seen a more tumultuous year than this one. I've

(54:06):
been through some pretty good ones, but this one has
been weird. But I can say I've been putting the
knife to a lot of white bass and bluegill and crappie,
and I'm not seeing the amount of retained eggs that
I suspect, especially in the white bass. I'm a little
suspicious those jokers fawn out in the lake. What that'll

(54:29):
mean for the success. We'll just have to wait and see. Anyway,
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(54:53):
patterns to talk about here. One of them I want
to pass along. I just got back from Kentucky Lake
and Lake Barkley. As usual, I stayed a fending feather
lodge and Frank and Down took great care of me
and my grandkids, and we caught a bunch of nice
blue yell and sunfish. Talked to boys how to do

(55:16):
a fish fry. I had to clean the fish, you know,
the whole Gamut, which was a lot of fun. So
I did want to thank them so much for their
generosity and help. As usual, I do want to pass
something along there. We were beset by thunderstorms morning, noon
and night last week, and unfortunately I wanted to put

(55:38):
the boys on something that I have dearly loved through
the years, and that's the mainfly hatch or will awfly
hatch at the Two Lakes because everything for bass, blue
yell croppy catfish, everything comes up in gorgeous on those
things when they're falling off the bushes along the shorelines
and around the islands. But it delayed, I'm happy to report,

(56:02):
is full blown and wide open right now, So folks
that are going to be traveling to western Kentucky here
in the next little bit, be on the lookout for
that because it provides for some fantastic fishing opportunity.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Well, fishing right now can be wide open and as
hot as the temperature, you just have to change your
tactics a little bit. Summertime fishing offers so much in
regards to vegetation and the types of baits that are
effective depending on what species you're wanting to go to.
Docks become very popular for multiple species of fish.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
You have the bait fish hatch and the activity of
the fish that are feeding on the tremendous amount of
bait fish that are you know, out there and popping
from their spawn.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Anglers can capitalize on shade. I mean, we can start
anywhere you want to tonight, whether it's fishing the first
thirty or forty minutes of the morning or the last
hour of the evening, or if we want to get
into some night tactics pulling big spinner baits and twelve
inch worms through your grass and vegetation. I mean, we
need about ten hours to talk about all the effective

(57:17):
waste to catch fish in the summertime. But don't let
the heat deterior from getting your boat out there, or
lacing up your boots and standing on the side of
the bank or going down to the river. Because it's
easy to keep a tight line this timing year. You
just got to wipe a sweat off your brow every
once in a while.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yes, sir, let's talk about docks because they're one of
the easiest targets for the variety of species. If you
can flip, pitch or skip, bass fishing becomes paramount around docks,
specially on lakes like Barkley where you've got a lot
of flat banks with a lot of docks on them,

(57:58):
and shade is at a premium. We all know this,
especially during midday, I said, the hot part of the day.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, they're just so important to fish in general because
there's thousands of docks out there. What you've got to
figure out is what doc has shade, what doc has baitfish,
what doc has structured, what docks have lights? And then
when you start going down this checklist, it's no different
than getting your car inspected. Look at all of these

(58:32):
different docks, and I'm talking about some docks are covered
with metal roofs. Some docks are put in by cable,
while other docks are put in by more structural pillars
that are going up and down in the water that
tends to grow vegetation on it, that tend to attract
those baitfish, crappie fishing, bass fishing, bluegial fish, and catfishing.

(58:56):
It's all good around your docks. You part paying attention to,
you know, those east and west sunrises and sunsets. Some
docks will hold shade for longer periods of time. Some
docks have more lining their feet. Docks in general can
just provide a smortgage board of opportunity for the bobber

(59:18):
or the jig, or the worm or the mena. It
really depends on what you want to do, and you
don't have to have a boat to fish all docks.
Some docks are very protected by the owners and the
businesses that run and operate them where they don't want
any fishing. But there's a lot of places that docks
are wide open. I mean they're just as public as
being in the middle of the lake.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yes, sir, absolutely, White bass fishing is getting ready to
be on fire. It's going to get better and better.
I enjoyed some great fishing for whites and spotted bass
under bait balls here last week, and man was it fun.
I mean it was that you know, frenetic stuff that
occur real early in the morning and late in the evening.

(01:00:03):
And that's gonna get better and better. Is these baked
fish get a little bigger and the numbers start to
gather according to where the plankton is. Hint, hint, no bait,
no fish. Don't waste your time if you're not seeing
a lot of baked folks. You've heard me say that
time after time through the years, and I'm just that guy.

(01:00:24):
If I'm not seeing bait, I'm moving and it's it's
gonna get better and better because these release schedules and
what have you are gonna be become more consistent. My gosh, Scott,
the amount of water that was blown but below the
dams at Barkley and Kentucky this week were crazy. I

(01:00:45):
mean they were.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Anytime yep, anytime that current gets pulled, it activates those
bakefish to feed. And when those makefish feed, the other
species feed. And the good thing about this time of year,
it's easy prior to fourth of July week fourth of
July weekend to get into some of those smaller whites

(01:01:06):
and yellows. And that's just the normal progression. And it
seems that each year it's about ten days to two
weeks when you get into those big schools are the
smaller and I'm talking for to six inch fish that
it just progresses into getting into those bigger fish that
give you a little bit more fight and a little

(01:01:26):
bit more file at once you bust the knife out,
but will give a few pointers to folks that are
going to try to get out and fish for these
white basts. If you're fishing on these humps or these
channel structures of water depth change where the eddies are
and these fish start these feeding frenzies. For about the

(01:01:48):
last two weeks, and I had about a week off
down into golf, but the reports that I talked to
from my friends that are still fishing through this weekend
up to coming onto the show tonight, it seems to
be that anything around that three eighths of an ounce
weight just to an eighth of an ounce weight has

(01:02:09):
been really popular, with the smaller weight catching more fish.
But instead of vertically jigging cast masters or some type
of jigging spoon, the bite has been a little bit
hotter with ripping through those in more of a blade
style bait, and it seems that the fish have just

(01:02:32):
been a little bit more active gym more on presenting
that bait going through the school versus jigging up and
down into the school, if that makes sense to people,
meaning that you're throwing it out and cranking it in
versus just staying right over the top of the fish suspended,
just working your bait up and down through the fish
school column, So hopefully that'll help a few folks. And

(01:02:55):
keeping that wind at your back has been a little
bit of a secret too here lately, making those longer
cast and staying right off the top of them. Mark
your fish, but let the line and the rod do
the work. It's a it's a prime time for a
seven foot rod, six and a half foot rod and
a little bit heavier jig or spoon or casting lure

(01:03:17):
and and and just let mother nature do everything. Those
fish are hungry and they're eating, so it'll fill up
a ice chest real quick. Don't worry about having too
much ice in your cool because you're going to get
a lot of fish to fill the space as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
No doubt. And again the best is you have to come.
It's just now really kind of heating up and starting
in terms of the school. And I talked to a
bunch of friends about the fish after I left. I
left down out on Thursday, and and fish don't live
and tick them around rough and some others before I left.

(01:03:53):
And it's it's developing. And the key to it is
the baked fish are small right now, these these bowls
have shed most of the fish are very very small.
I had actually my best luck with smaller baits uh
one eighth out spinners and swim baits that you know,
I normally would fish bigger than that, but that's what

(01:04:14):
they wanted, you know me, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
give them one one because they could be pretty dark
picky when small like that, they could be very picky.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
These hybrids, whites and yellows, no lan rough, Kentucky bearing barkley, uh,
they all get the attention sometimes. But men, please get
out and take advantage of of some of the river
fishing that is available, and and understand and teach your stuff.
If you don't know about these white bass, learn a

(01:04:48):
little bit about how they're they're using these these creek channels,
and and definitely figure out a way to go fish
with somebody that has some experience with white bash, because
unlike maybe a professional bass fishermen or tournament bass fishing,
most of the time you find people that like to
catch white bass, they like to eat white bass, and

(01:05:10):
they are normally of good character, people that don't mind
to get out there and share the water with you
and teach you a technique or two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Yes, sir, while we're on white baths. You know me,
I'm a fanatic because when they're schooling, I'm a guy.
I love the action, you know. I just love seeing
them bust on top. I like dropping a spoon into
a school where they're hitting and for whatever reaches the bottom.
But the reason I like it is because I like
to eat them, and I like to eat them in
addition to their fighting qualities is because if you keep

(01:05:43):
your filet knife about an eighth of an inch up
off the skin when you finish them out, and you
trim away any of that red meat, they are a
firm fish. They do not take fishy, and they are
actually very high on my list. I won't compare them
to a file aid, blue yell or a crappy, but

(01:06:03):
in terms of a great fish for a fish fry,
I've never had anybody turn their nose up a good
white bass that will filleyed properly. Just trim out that
red meat, keep that knife off the skin where the
red meat most of it stays on the skin. When
you're done, you got a great piece of fileet there.
All right, Gotta go and break here. This break is

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beat the heat. One of them is night fishing. At

(01:06:45):
night fishing, oh my goodness, does it become productive going
into this summer period. It's making that turn now, fishing
under lights for croppie, walleye, white bass, you name it,
I mean, it's phenomenon. Obviously, it's best a target on

(01:07:06):
the knights that are darkest. The full moon is a
bit of a non sequitor, but that doesn't last too long.
You got, you know, the next terms of the calendar
to fish with, But man, is that for live minutes
or small jigs? It doesn't matter. It depends on how
you want to play the game. But what a fun
way to get the family out fish.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
And there's so many accessories now. It used to be
that you either had to be an electrician or no
an electrician to book your boat up with the proper
lights to nightfish. But with the advancements and so many
LEDs and LiTi in batteries, now you can just clamp
stuff on here and there and really have not only

(01:07:53):
a safe environment to fish in, but also have a
very well lit environment when it comes to watching your
line or if you want to have still fish with
a bobber. I mean, there's possibilities now that weren't around
for years. And for the younger folks that are listening,
or even some of the mentors that are out there,

(01:08:15):
it's a great time of year two picking up on
some of those catfish topics from you know, the past,
shows where you can and it's safe to do so.
Some of my fondest memories of being younger was growing
up along the Ohio River in Odham County and getting

(01:08:36):
some driftwood and getting permission from a landowner to have
a winnie roast and do a little cat fishing on
the banks of the Ohio River. And there's still several
hours that you can get in some good fishing and
still get to bed in time and get up and
go to work the next morning. And we'd like to

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see a few more of our younger kids getting out
there and get to experience those things, because it teaches
you a whole lot more than just how to catch
and clean a fish.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Jim, no doubt, let's flip the page. Stream fishing. The
summertime is the time for that in a big, big way,
and a lot of us got robbed of a lot
of stream fishing opportunities by the rains. But now we're
getting into, hopefully the pattern where it's going to settle
down and nothing's more fun than catching small these large

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mouth rock bass, green sunfish, you know, you name it.
There's so many cool species of fish to be had,
and you can wade, you can kayak, you can fish
from the bank, you can fish for channel cat and
most of the major streams across the region. This is
the time of year to take advantage of that because

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most of these watercourses are shaded or you can jump
in them and cool all down.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
That's what I was sitting there thinking about. Standing there
of one out sneakers and your favorite swimming trunks or
shorts that dry out quick, and a short rod and
something a little smaller that's got some treble hooks on it,
or a little piece of plastic and on a single
lead weighted hook, something a little sharp truce or green pumpkin.
You can smile ear to ear and catch whatever you

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want to catch. And one good thing about those fish Jim,
there's definitely some size depending on which waterway you're in.
But those fish that live in that current each and
every day and learn how to survive in it, they
give you a pretty good fight to the to the
edge of where your wasist or belly line meets the water.
And it's not always about the pounds as much as

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it is about the pool when you go into those
types of fishing environments, and there's always a lot of
fun to be had.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I'm glad you mentioned that, because I sell them fish
line bigger than four to six pound test in the creeks.
It depending on course the species I'm after, the channel cats,
I obviously move up. But for the sunfish and most
of the bass fishing, those lighter lines and smaller lures
generally speaking, no bigger than an eighth of an ounce,

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sixteenth and even a thirty second are my favorites if
there's not an extreme amount of flow. And my gosh,
is it fun, don't you know? Even those little long
ear sunfish, just to get them in your hand and
look at them. They're the most beautiful fish that swims
in fresh water, in my opinion, and I dearly love
to catch them and see them, and there's no better

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way to get a kid hooked on fishing. I'm not
saying that tony cheek than fish in a creek with
a child. They're gonna see action, there's no doubt about it.
Real quick, here, water safety, we've had a bunch of
fatalities already this year. They're one to particulars. Scott. You
wanted to speak too, real.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Quick, yeah, I just want to give condolences to the
fireman who's lost his life on Dell Hall the past week,
Kentucky individual that went overboard in his boat, and just
condouns us to the family and for Kentucky and Tennessee
with boating related deaths. And wear that life jacket, keep

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that kill switch on, and just keep that throttle pulled
back and the bow that boat down, keep your eyes open,
and always think about what the possibilities are when you
least expected.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yes, sir, well, welcome to summer everybody. We hope you
enjoyed the show. God bless you be careful out there.