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Here I get it right, Yeah, yeah.
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Really? Dad?
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Got an email.
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Thinking about a real estate transaction within family, Dan right
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And it's rather complex. And I said, I'm gonna.
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Have to go ask legal counsel that's way above my
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It is very it is tactile. It is a tactiles
I'm not but it might be kevlar.
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But it's tough. It's it's tough. It's tough stuff. Because guys,
we can say this. It's it's actually kind of comical
because we do have a copy that's been on the
table if you will, or you know, conference room table
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We'll go out to you. It's brandow damaged as it
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It looks completely brand new. This could go out to you.
So again, guys, request your copies. Mike, I'm gonna give
you a lot of credit, Okay, And I never do this, guys, guys,
I me thinks, me thinks that one pillar that I've
overlooked is not only I don't want to call it
making a comeback, but I think it's starting, just starting
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to grow in popularity. And I think this is gonna
surge amongst you guys. Okay, and Mike, you know what
it is, and I think we stumbled.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Upon it to find outcome.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's pillar four, pillar four guys, right, which is again
what we call whatever you want to call it. Avoid
the flat tire, right, This is just don't get killed, right,
win by not losing it said, whatever you want to
call it. Okay, this is where you are index man
or index girl. Right, you pick any which one you
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may like. We can work a combo. Well done, well done.
And here's where it's hitting home when I talk with you, guys,
because we did a show about a month ago where
we talked about a complimentary trade within the markets, and
we also mentioned specifically is what if you were a
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younger ladder lass and you said I wish and you
said no, no, no, no, I wish this existed. Here's the point, Mike,
here's the thing. What if I could be for get
the NASDAC right, NASDAK is almost too for this pillar.
What if I want to be the Nasdaq one hundred
what we call the NDX, right, what we call the NDX. Perhaps,
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perhaps if you want to look back at a chart
over the last fifteen years, literally, maybe the only trade
that's mattered, quite simply put, if you were in NDX
and or those names versus not owning NDX and those names,
there's a disparity. We'll put it that way.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Here's a problem of dan, yes, please, is that within
those tech names. Hmm.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You have to be prepared for when it goes auci.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Now here's the thing, guys, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But if I can dispair and get rid of the Auchi, here's.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
What we And again hypothetically speaking, if we had a
vehicle an investment within pillar four where we could show
you how you can be if you chose, you can
be one hundred percent in the NDX, and it goes
year to year to year to year to year. Okay,
So in other words, not tied in for a six
year leap unless you want to, not tied in for
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a five year leap, unless you want to, not tied
in for three unless you want to.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Right, you can own and I like to spread them out.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I know, but here's the point. I can be NASDAK
boy or girl, okay, Nasdaq one hundred NDX and and
and if something runs a foul not if any given
year right it happens, I can literally have up to
ten percent, twenty percent, even thirty percent of a down
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year of a loss placed back into my account at
the end of the year. Yet if the NDX, the
Nasdaq one hundred does nicely, I play along to the upside.
Think about this power, guys. This is taking hold, Mic,
It really.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Is because people are realizing the world is insane. Well exactly,
this is the world is burning god literally domestically internationally,
and I don't want to be part of it anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
The next Mike, Mike, guys, it's gonna be pillar four.
I'm telling you, let us educate on pillar four. Let's
get this started, that this is going to be the item.
I have a feeling in the meantime. D O D
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Copy Weekend everybody.
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They actually have an X Christmas album? Oh yeah, if
no one's.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Ever heard of it? Yeah, we've talked. Yah, yeah, definitely.
What if it rains every day?
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Though, well it does, so would you.
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Be wearing the sandals and the baggies?
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Dad the Voice the Voice of Reason, The Voices of
Reason Dan Polanski and Mica Oh Brown. When the world
seems so twisted, when you have seems when you have
supersonic missile of the day being fired off, and you're
looking hypersonic supersonic, hypersonic whatever, and you are looking for
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investment ideas.
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Look no further.
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He looked, no further, Blueberry portfolios. No, how how do
you explain?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You can't, you can't.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
How do you defend it? How do you all day
long explain?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Well, Dan, if we go back ninety eight years, this
has done very.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Very well, we're gonna I don't want to have those conversations.
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Yeah, no, and nor do we. We're gonna give there's
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Now, Guys's because they're absolute jokers.
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to come. Now, we stumbled across something this past week,
and I will say this. We're allowed to mention the brand.
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Of course we are, right, of course, of course it's
there is their product session product. Alion's the massive, massive, massive,
massive global ensure. Right, they're right up there with anyone
as far as size.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And do they qualify for too Big to Fail?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
If they were right there? Yeah, they're right there. Now
here's the point, guys, here's the point. And we we've
never seen this before. Okay. They have a Pillar four offering. Okay,
so that's all you need to know. This is Pillar four.
I'm index man again. What we're talking about an in
segment one. I want to be NASDAQ one hundred I
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want to be Russell, right, I want to be sm
Pay et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I want Mike
and Dan to help me mix it up. Right. But
here's the point. Here's the point. You don't want to
stub your toe along the way. So, in other words,
in other words, when the market goes down, not if right,
when the market goes down in any given year.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Again, remember, guys, you can go year to year to
year to year.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So in other words, let's say I want to be
Nasdaq one hundred, Okay, and over the course of the
next year, I choose I do pillar for it. Right,
Let's say we use the allions offering. Okay, let's choose
an example. Okay, I'm one hundred percent Nasdaq one hundred.
The Nasdaq one hundred just so happens to go down
fifteen percent over the next year.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Which happens all the time. Guys.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Here's the point. Here's the point. If I choose a
downside buffer, which is what they call it, two tect
me against a loss of that size, guess what you
lost zero and we start over the next year. Now
here's the stunning thing, guys, here's the stunning thing. What
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they've also done is this. Okay, what they've also done
is this is let's say you're having a super duper
NASDAQ one hundred year, right, and Mike and Dan call
you and you say, you know what, we don't want
to take any more risk here.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Right, right, those are the calls. I want to be
ready for this.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Guys. You can literally what they call they call it
a lock. Yeah, we can lock in your game for
the year, so as no more risk on the table.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Dan, I start January one. It's July one. Yes, I'm
up fifteen percent. I can take my ball and go
home without question.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
This is scary, Mike, Mike, this is this is as
we know, This is as we know next level investing.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I know this is very difficult for people who
have these model portfolios. Oh, because it's it's a different world, right,
It's a different planet, is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
This is version three point zero.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, yeah, this but but but but butt and very
early days, guys, very early days. But here's what Aleons
has done which we've never seen before.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Oh, talk to me.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
They've put some numbers to it where they look at
and again we've got them to we can send you
the material everyone. Okay, they literally put numbers to it
where they say, we can show you the hard dollars.
Here's the numbers as of x Y.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
You don't have to believe, Mike, and damn.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It absolutely as of x Y.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And these are what's called FINRA approved, meaning our governing body.
There's no faking it of our in destroyer had to
give them the blessing.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
And what they simply do is they show over a
certain period of time those that chose to utilize this tool,
this locking tool, right, they show the average re turn.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
In addition, you know what they do, I'm gonna get
into the weeds here, YEA.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
If I own the stock market, Dan the S and
P five hundred, my risk level is measured by something
called standard deviation KA meaning I know there's gonna be
certain times where I'm gonna lose money.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
We say it all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's just the way it goes.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Alions actually shows the standard deviation of having the protection.
And if you put it on a graph, that's when
you have the aha moment.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Well, and here's where I'm going with this, guys. Those
of you, as much as we talk about the Blueberry portfolio,
and you guys know you guys who you? Guys who
have it? Your neighbor has it, your friends have it?
You know what it is?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You do?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You know, we don't even have to explain it. Okay,
we don't have to explain it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well, let's try.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Okay, you have fifteen to twenty mutual funds, yes, and
they give you a diagram with all.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
The color colors.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right, You get it once per year and it makes
it feel good. You get it once per year, and
that's it. And that's okay. That's what you're told. Is
your your way, your way, and they like to pretend
this is your only way to quote unquote reduced risk.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, based on a seventy five year old modern portfolio
theory system that worked for about forty years. It hasn't
worked in decades.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But here's the thing, guys, early days, early days, adoption
from you, and I mean really early days. You know
who's coming over to pillar four mic where we can
talk about an allion's offering, where we can show you
the I know who's coming over eyes, I know it's
those of you have the Blueberry portfolio, right and index
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one index And what you say is you say? And
again we get it, guys. We get it, and I
love it. You always want listen, you want to start small.
We get it, you say, Hey Dan, I got this
old roll over. Hey Dan, I've got this account. You
know my mother uses these guys in Pohokan. You know,
whatever it is. I want to move this guys, let
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us just show you the data. It's really let us educate.
Let us then show you the data, and then if
you walk away, it's on you, right on you.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, rather than saying, huh, Mike and Dan, we're really
convincing in this blab blah blah blah. Let me go
home and just review the numbers.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Right, we're you know what, Mike, we're basically we could
be a high pots we could be by with this
type of data. If you're gonna put the don out
of there that, Mike, think about it though. If we're
able to get you guys on the cruise ship this
type of data.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Not in a cruise ship in the haven.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
In the haven, you're because you're in the safe haven, right,
you're on the cruise ship in the safe haven. When
you have this version of pillar four.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
What I don't get Dan, I don't mean to interrupt
you but I do it all the time. Why wouldn't
I want to protect my money? You do, Mike, I
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Where's Tokemo? Is that real? I think it's in the Caribbean,
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Happy weekend everyone. You know what is Reel the cruise
ship and you all are on it, the Planning for
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It has a safe haven. You all can take your mimosa.
We use extra extra inexpensive champagne, but we will use
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I didn't know that we'll use true champagne. But we
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course on pillar four.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
We should do that.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well, we discussed all guys. Guys, guess this. I'm gonna
keep this super simple here. Let's let's start. Let's start
with the best way to be in touch because this
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Can we talk about the fixings for one minute? Yeah,
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The check sheet checklist about how do I check my beneficiaries,
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is in d D two point zero. What what other
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Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean, that's well, if you haven't been a victim yet,
it's not.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
If it's when, and if you don't have your credit
reports frozen, you're you're just.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Rolling the dice. It like you roll the dice in
a Blueberry portfolio.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Some guys, And again, guys, takes it takes again, it
takes twenty seconds. Just go out there right now. I
think it's the best fake because again, we all do this.
We want something sounds great, sounds great, sounds great, sounds great.
And the minute we're done listening to Dan and Mike,
the minute we're done watching the show, the minute we're
done on the web, whatever it is.
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We're doing the next thing.
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just gotta let us know that it's really that simple.
Now I want to go back to this, okay, because
we're building something pillar four and Pillar four, guys, has
now taken a step. Okay. We talk about the iterations, right,
we talk about how this is all moving and it's
moving quickly, okay, and direction and here here's the point, guys.
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And we said this when we talked about when when
pillar three, guys, which is the best way to think
about Pillar three is growth, growth with with the ability
to you will hear this correctly fully inoculate yourself against lass.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So in other words, my dollar is always going to
be my do correct your dollar will be your dollar.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And if you want to grow your portfolio like most
people do, and it works, it works nicely over time. Right,
you're gonna keep every penny. Okay, that's really simple. And
when we saw that, we said that that's platinum. That's it.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Okay. Actually we said, I'm sorry what what we said?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Exactly right, So understand that that's pillar three, guys. That's
the kind of the You can't really take it much
further than that. Okay. Now that's within pillar three. Now,
Pillar four has always been I want to be the index, right,
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I love I love can Guard, I love Widelity. I
love these companies. They're so good to me. I love
calling the one eight hundred number. I love being treated
in human I love I love. I love all of it.
I love I love authenticating myself with DNA. I love
all of the above. Right, I love all of the above. Okay,
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if you're that person. Right, they have double authentication, triple whatever,
triple because what happens is you get so upset and
get it guys making a say your fingerprints. This is
all about you not being able to get your money.
But don't think anything, don't think it's anything other than that, guys.
And again we've we've done this for way too long. Okay,
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here's the point. What Pillar four was initially meant to
do was to toe to toe with that. Okay, they
what they did was they made.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It was a heavyweight against middleweight.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Well that's again that's if you want to learn about it.
But but the point is this. What they did was
they made the mistake Pillar four, the providers of Pillar
four items what they did, they made the mistake because
early adopters like Mike Brown, they put it in his
hands and what he would do is work as hard
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as he could, educating as many people as he could.
But he's only one person, right, He's one person. And
the problem is when you're at the big bank store,
super wirehouse, blah blah blah, and they're fifty brokers on
Joe Street, right, they don't want those brokers talking to
anybody about Pillar four.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Okay, No, it's not. It's not profitable, it's not their house.
Won't let them.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It's not their models, shall we say so? The point
is there's all only so many Mike Browns in the world. Okay,
here's the new problem, O that the traditional wirehouses, the widelities,
the pam guards.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
All of it, I mean, all the investment banks that
became banks because they blew themselves up.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Okay, here's the problem that they have now, Okay, is
there is a Megan Sure who stepped into Pillar four
and said, we're not we're we're gonna stop playing games here, guys,
index Great, we'll protect your downside. Great, but here's what
we're gonna do. If you're having a super duper year
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right in Let's say you're in the Nasdak you want
to be Nasdak, right and you're having a super duper
year and you don't want to risk it going down anymore.
They call it a lock. They say, Mike Brown can
press a button and say we're done for the year,
move on, keep.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Going, because what happens Dan, if I'm in, as you say,
the growth fun and Mississippi. Yeah, okay, my dollar grows
to a dollar twenty.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, we've all been in the growth fund in Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
We're not saying we haven't experienced this ourselves. We have.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
And I say I want to take my ball and
go home for a little bit. So I sell the
growth on in Mississippi. Well, in February of next year,
I'm getting a tax bill versus we're talking about ali
ons in this instance, I want to take my ball
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and go home.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I don't get a tax bill.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Don't you get a tax bill. You get a reset
on where you're moving over the course of the next year. Again,
you put your protections back in place, guys, and you
keep running.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
But I'm not going to get a ten ninety nine
saying things for participating in the parade, and you owe money.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
So let's take the next step. As Mike said, you
get this sell button right, which again isn't a cell button, right,
not a sell button. It's let me let me go dance, right,
let me go dance.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm gonna lock in and reload.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I'm well done. Here's the point. What they've done is
they've done something that's staggering to me, staggering to Mike,
staggering to anyone that's seen these data. They put data
out and they said, hey, any let's do the man.
Let's as Mike Brown always says, let's do the math.
The only thing is they put it on paper and
they said, we're gonna start showing people because we want
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to start kicking butt because we're tired of it. Right.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
And while they're the pioneers, it's coming, guys, they're all
all of our Pillar four friends are gonna start doing this.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Here it is, guys. Just let us educate. Okay, let
us be the disciples. Right, we want to be the disciples.
Let's just compare number. Let us let us be the disciples.
Let us again. Now there's two of us. Now there's
Dan Plansky and Mike Brown. There's the team at Madison. Guys,
there is a reason why the firm that rhymes with
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wat rock. Okay, wat rock Okay, there is.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Why they're meeting in the Middle East right now.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Correct, there's the reason why they are scrambling as fast
as they.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Can because they wanted to Pillar two.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
To attempt to get in this particular game.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
And you know what, as much as I don't love
those people, because I don't love their top brass and
their political views, whatever in case may be, when you
get a heavyweight like those guys moving into an area.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's validation and simply, and it.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Forces all the other peoples to up their game.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
It right.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
If I am the the biggest, baddest tough guy in
the neighborhood and I come in, everybody else is.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Gonna get a little tougher. It's just kind. It's just
it's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We call validation, right, It.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Just and I despise those guys.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Well, you know what, Mike, anybody, here's the thing, guys,
here's the thing, and here's the beauty of our platform.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Right, here's the beauty of our platform.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
If for some reason, despite Michael Brown's dislike of all
all things.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I'll check my ego at the door.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
It's that simple.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
So the point, the point is this guys, brand new
Pillar four brand new pillar four, brand new data around
pillar four, so it's no longer Hey, what ifs maybes?
Hypothetically speaking, what's the average? It's right there. Here we go, page,
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it's right there. No different than mutual fund ay right,
Mutual fund B exchange traded fund A exchange traded fun B,
no different, it's right there. It's clean, it's crisp. And
not only is the record there, if you will, right,
the one lost record. Okay, we can educate around that.
(32:55):
To explain to you is not only is the are
the numbers staggering, but we can show you the risk
reduction side as well.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Yeah, and you can see year over year over year
abs guys, because if I look at a twenty year
track record, Dan, and it gives me all this good stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But when they have.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Down thirty percent years the year I need to retire,
that's derailing my retirement.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Going to break. We got so much going on here,
almost as I thought the show is over for a second.
Here we go, guys, we'll be right back. I think
we know the theme, etcetera, etcetera. We're gonna keep educated, guys.
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One of the best Christmas albums ever. Yeah. No, very underrated,
the Beach Boys and The Letterman.
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But you sometimes like bands that are actually overrated and
you say they're underrated, but they're truly If the Beach
Boys could be underrated, write their Christmas stuff is underrated?
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musical stuff is just way out there.
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Michael Brown manager, director Michael Brown, he who knows nothing musical. I,
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next level that I think, especially like what happens in
these areas if you will, okay, when a lot of
people seem to listen to Mike and Dan, okay, and
that's fine imitation, sincere's form of flattery. Right, a lot
(36:45):
of people listen to Mike and Dan, and then all
of a sudden you start to hear from you guys.
Come back, Hey, Dan, you know the guy that's on
at ten o'clock, he's now they're talking about protections. They're
talking about, you know, guaranteed pension. They're talking about guaranteed penchiones.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Wait a minute, growth with protection about concierge content that well,
that was the ultimate joke but the point, the point
is says, guys, we are so duplicate, we are so
imitated the attempt to duplicate.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Make no mistake. This is so cutting edge. What's going
on in Pillar four. This is going to kick so
much butt out there. We are so proud to bring
it to you first that I think you need to
listen to this show. If you haven't listened to it,
right if you're just catching up right now, that's how novel.
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That's what's going on within Pillar four right now. Now,
remember what makes Pillar four so special to us here
at Madison?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Is it? Again?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
This is my opinion only again, I'm entitled to opinions,
and I'll put it out there, I think. And again,
I'm not speaking to California. I'm not speaking to Arkansas.
I'm not speaking to Mississippi. But I believe in this area.
I know this area been around for a while. I've
been in this field for a while, in this area,
I believe Mike Brown was a pioneer a Pillar four. Okay,
I believe he was a pioneer in bringing you Pillar four,
educating you on Pillar four. Now, this was version one
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point zero of Pillar four.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
It was a decade decade ago.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Guys, this is when it first moved from the institutions
right being available to the biggest abaion correct, and then
it got democratized. Mike Brown brought you Pillar four. That's
what makes this so special to us. Okay, the latest
and greatest out of Pillar four. It's defining. Okay, it
is defining. So let's put this together. We have a
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pioneer in the field. We have a pioneer in the field. Okay,
We've got the whole team here at Madison behind us.
We've got all the education material you could ever want.
You will never be sold at Madison. You will only
be educated, and then you will make a choice. Okay,
your choice.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Now we have a defining vehicle out of Pillar four
that may not be touched Mike maybe what what else
is there?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Well, Lord Willing when these other awful huge to come
into the market and they're going to push everyone to
up their game.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
But here's which is just great. Let ass be the
ones get yes, we feel we just learn it. Let
let as be the ones to do this before Dan.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Here's the funny part. We can have all the growth
we want, YadA, YadA, YadA. If the market does well.
If the market doesn't do well, right, the world keeps fighting, burning, rioting,
high end, whatever excuse you want to use.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
We don't have to be apologetic.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
No, there's no stories, right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I don't want to make those calls. Right, Hey, Dan,
hang in there. Well, I know you're retiring next year
and your dollar is not worth eighty cents historically speak
ba ba ba.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'm not going I'm never doing that well, because that's
just ludicrous.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
But Mike, you understand, and you know this, and I
know you know this, but a lot of people don't
know this is that the reality is is if you
were managing it again, it's no disrespect. It's just what
they have to do. If you're managing mutual fund eye,
hedge fund eye, you gotta come up with something. If
you're asked, hey, how do the hypersonic rockets affect you?
(40:24):
You got to say something.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
You don't think those responses are actually scripted.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Oh well, one hundred person.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Exactly, Mike. But that's but that's what I don't want
to hear a scripted response. You know what I want
to hear, Dan, Mike, you're gonna get your money back tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
You know, and and again, guys, that's what I want
to hear again, guys. Whether it's pillar four that we're
talking about here, this brand new dynamic, dynamic offering at
a pill four, whether it's pillar three, where the game
has already been raised, the bar has been set at
the bar.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
The great just in the last five. But there's the
whole point.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
How much we've got to increase the value proposition.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
And here's the special part of pillar two, guys. The
special part of pillar two isn't just the fact that
you're creating your own pension right where you can get
a raise, right, you can get a raise, and even if.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
It were to go to zero, you can't correct.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Correct. The special part are the rates that are being
offered today. Yes, you heard that right. This is a
timing item. This isn't necessarily the vehicle. Okay, the vehicle's
been here, right, the vehicle. There's a lot of people
with this vehicle who have quote guaranteed rates in the
realm of four and a half percent.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Right, the think that was your father's was it correct? Correct?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
So the point is pillar two need you to take
advantage of it now because of where rates are.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
So that's time I'm going to do. So that's well,
here's the point. I don't retire until they take me
out of here on a gurney. Right, But that's not.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Right, that's not the see Mike, and you just touch
on something. And this is why I love Pillar two.
This is why I love again Pillar two. Guys, for
those of your newbies, that's the guaranteed lifetime, lifetime, guaranteed
pension withdrawal, whatever you want to call it. Okay, here's
why I love it. To your point, Mike, just put
in the toolkit. Put it in the toolkit, because you can, guys,
what the vehicle, the the version that we like, the
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chassis that we like. If you will the model that
we like in Pillar two right now, they will allow
you to open an account and add at a future
date of your choosing, whenever you would like.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
So keep going with that.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
So I'm I'm sixty four. I'm going to retire next year. Yeah,
I put a rather small amount of money into this.
H but now I have my reservation. That's it at
the table. That's the best mic. That's so when I
retire and I have my four one K and I say, Dan, Mike,
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I need enough income to cover my fixed costs. Right right,
With the possibility of my fixed costs going where up right,
maybe I can get.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
A pa put it in the tank.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
This is not again, guys, No one's asking for a
heavy lift. Just be an adopter. Just be an adopter.
Start an account, just get your ticket, Get punch your ticket, guys,
because we can always add at a later date at
these rates. So here, here's really the best way to
think about this. And this is how we like to
educate when we get you in the office and so
many of you are shaking your head. Yes, here's the
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easiest way to think of it. I have Pillar two
right now, right, my guaranteed with draw rate, and let's say,
hypothetically in retirement, my guaranteed withdraw rate for life with
this version of Pillar two, hypothetically, guys, is seven percent.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Okay, So every dollar I have, I get seven cents
of income forever.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Right, can get guys, Right, ok Now, here's the point, guys,
here's the point that iteration. That model will not go away.
It'll be available in two years. But here's the butt.
Here's the butt. There is a high probability. There's a
high probability that the seven percent is no longer, it
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will be six percent or lower. Okay, But if I
want to add at that point in time, and I
adopt it at seven, part, here's the juicy part, Guys,
I'm adding at seven when everybody else is not is
adding and or beginning at six. It's not a trick question, guys.
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Let us just make it so easy for you. Let's
just get this adopted. And that's why I say to no,
have pillar two right if I'm in that retirement realm right, because.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Pillar two is gonna be my bedrock, well, Mike, when
I go someday.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
And let's make let's make this very clear, guys. Pillar
two is only available to a certain subset of us
who are above a certain age because if they go
on to anyone younger, they go broke.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yeah, they can't. Let's just let's let's just bear it
out there right now. I don't know what's the number,
forty five, fifty.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Fifty, depending on the model.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Right, So if you're fifty years of age, you get
the ticket in the club.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
There is now you need to get the table reservation
in the club.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Mike, you have preached to us this hour.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
You have brought us. Amen, you have brought us the
new Pillar four. This is a defining show.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
It's a defining moment in radio. I will say that
I'll go that far. It's a defining moment in radio. Guys.
Listen to this show, play it back, and then let
us educate on Pillar four before it's being sold. Notice
the language I'm using before it's being sold to you
by Big Box Superstar.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Correct.
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because we do have a copy that's been on the
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within the laboratory where we do the show. And we
pick it up, we throw it, we slap it down.
It's the one Dan is holding this.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We'll go out to you. It's brandow damaged as it
could get, and it's brand new.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
It looks completely brand new. This could go out to you.
So again, guys, request your copies. Mike, I'm gonna give
you a lot of credit, Okay, And I never do this, guys, guys,
I me thinks, me thinks that one pillar that I've
overlooked is not only I don't want to call it
making a comeback, but I think it's starting, just starting
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to grow in popularity. And I think this is gonna
surge amongst you guys. Okay, and Mike, you know what
it is, and I think we stumbled.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Upon it to find outcome.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's pillar four, pillar four guys, right, which is again
what we call whatever you want to call it. Avoid
the flat tire, right, This is just don't get killed, right,
win by not losing it said, whatever you want to
call it. Okay, this is where you are index man
or index girl. Right, you pick any which one you
(07:28):
may like. We can work a combo. Well done, well done.
And here's where it's hitting home when I talk with you, guys,
because we did a show about a month ago where
we talked about a complimentary trade within the markets, and
we also mentioned specifically is what if you were a
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younger ladder lass and you said I wish and you
said no, no, no, no, I wish this existed. Here's the point, Mike,
here's the thing. What if I could be for get
the NASDAC right, NASDAK is almost too for this pillar.
What if I want to be the Nasdaq one hundred
what we call the NDX, right, what we call the NDX. Perhaps,
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perhaps if you want to look back at a chart
over the last fifteen years, literally, maybe the only trade
that's mattered, quite simply put, if you were in NDX
and or those names versus not owning NDX and those names,
there's a disparity. We'll put it that way.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Here's a problem of dan, yes, please, is that within
those tech names. Hmm.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You have to be prepared for when it goes auci.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Now here's the thing, guys, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But if I can dispair and get rid of the Auchi, here's.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
What we And again hypothetically speaking, if we had a
vehicle an investment within pillar four where we could show
you how you can be if you chose, you can
be one hundred percent in the NDX, and it goes
year to year to year to year to year. Okay,
So in other words, not tied in for a six
year leap unless you want to, not tied in for
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a five year leap, unless you want to, not tied
in for three unless you want to.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Right, you can own and I like to spread them out.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I know, but here's the point. I can be NASDAK
boy or girl, okay, Nasdaq one hundred NDX and and
and if something runs a foul not if any given
year right it happens, I can literally have up to
ten percent, twenty percent, even thirty percent of a down
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year of a loss placed back into my account at
the end of the year. Yet if the NDX, the
Nasdaq one hundred does nicely, I play along to the upside.
Think about this power, guys. This is taking hold, Mic,
It really.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Is because people are realizing the world is insane. Well exactly,
this is the world is burning god literally domestically internationally,
and I don't want to be part of it anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
The next Mike, Mike, guys, it's gonna be pillar four.
I'm telling you, let us educate on pillar four. Let's
get this started, that this is going to be the item.
I have a feeling in the meantime. D O D
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They actually have an X Christmas album? Oh yeah, if
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Though, well it does, so would you.
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Be wearing the sandals and the baggies?
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You can't, you can't.
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How do you defend it? How do you all day
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Well, Dan, if we go back ninety eight years, this
has done very.
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Very well, we're gonna I don't want to have those conversations.
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to come. Now, we stumbled across something this past week,
and I will say this. We're allowed to mention the brand.
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Of course we are, right, of course, of course it's
there is their product session product. Alion's the massive, massive, massive,
massive global ensure. Right, they're right up there with anyone
as far as size.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And do they qualify for too Big to Fail?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
If they were right there? Yeah, they're right there. Now
here's the point, guys, here's the point. And we we've
never seen this before. Okay. They have a Pillar four offering. Okay,
so that's all you need to know. This is Pillar four.
I'm index man again. What we're talking about an in
segment one. I want to be NASDAQ one hundred I
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want to be Russell, right, I want to be sm
Pay et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I want Mike
and Dan to help me mix it up. Right. But
here's the point. Here's the point. You don't want to
stub your toe along the way. So, in other words,
in other words, when the market goes down, not if right,
when the market goes down in any given year.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Again, remember, guys, you can go year to year to
year to year.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So in other words, let's say I want to be
Nasdaq one hundred, Okay, and over the course of the
next year, I choose I do pillar for it. Right,
Let's say we use the allions offering. Okay, let's choose
an example. Okay, I'm one hundred percent Nasdaq one hundred.
The Nasdaq one hundred just so happens to go down
fifteen percent over the next year.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Which happens all the time. Guys.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Here's the point. Here's the point. If I choose a
downside buffer, which is what they call it, two tect
me against a loss of that size, guess what you
lost zero and we start over the next year. Now
here's the stunning thing, guys, here's the stunning thing. What
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they've also done is this. Okay, what they've also done
is this is let's say you're having a super duper
NASDAQ one hundred year, right, and Mike and Dan call
you and you say, you know what, we don't want
to take any more risk here.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Right, right, those are the calls. I want to be
ready for this.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Guys. You can literally what they call they call it
a lock. Yeah, we can lock in your game for
the year, so as no more risk on the table.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Dan, I start January one. It's July one. Yes, I'm
up fifteen percent. I can take my ball and go
home without question.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
This is scary, Mike, Mike, this is this is as
we know, This is as we know next level investing.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I know this is very difficult for people who
have these model portfolios. Oh, because it's it's a different world, right,
It's a different planet, is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
This is version three point zero.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, yeah, this but but but but butt and very
early days, guys, very early days. But here's what Aleons
has done which we've never seen before.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Oh, talk to me.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
They've put some numbers to it where they look at
and again we've got them to we can send you
the material everyone. Okay, they literally put numbers to it
where they say, we can show you the hard dollars.
Here's the numbers as of x Y.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
You don't have to believe, Mike, and damn.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It absolutely as of x Y.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And these are what's called FINRA approved, meaning our governing body.
There's no faking it of our in destroyer had to
give them the blessing.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
And what they simply do is they show over a
certain period of time those that chose to utilize this tool,
this locking tool, right, they show the average re turn.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
In addition, you know what they do, I'm gonna get
into the weeds here, YEA.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
If I own the stock market, Dan the S and
P five hundred, my risk level is measured by something
called standard deviation KA meaning I know there's gonna be
certain times where I'm gonna lose money.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
We say it all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's just the way it goes.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Alions actually shows the standard deviation of having the protection.
And if you put it on a graph, that's when
you have the aha moment.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Well, and here's where I'm going with this, guys. Those
of you, as much as we talk about the Blueberry portfolio,
and you guys know you guys who you? Guys who
have it? Your neighbor has it, your friends have it?
You know what it is?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You do?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You know, we don't even have to explain it. Okay,
we don't have to explain it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well, let's try.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Okay, you have fifteen to twenty mutual funds, yes, and
they give you a diagram with all.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
The color colors.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right, You get it once per year and it makes
it feel good. You get it once per year, and
that's it. And that's okay. That's what you're told. Is
your your way, your way, and they like to pretend
this is your only way to quote unquote reduced risk.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, based on a seventy five year old modern portfolio
theory system that worked for about forty years. It hasn't
worked in decades.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But here's the thing, guys, early days, early days, adoption
from you, and I mean really early days. You know
who's coming over to pillar four mic where we can
talk about an allion's offering, where we can show you
the I know who's coming over eyes, I know it's
those of you have the Blueberry portfolio, right and index
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one index And what you say is you say? And
again we get it, guys. We get it, and I
love it. You always want listen, you want to start small.
We get it, you say, Hey Dan, I got this
old roll over. Hey Dan, I've got this account. You
know my mother uses these guys in Pohokan. You know,
whatever it is. I want to move this guys, let
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us just show you the data. It's really let us educate.
Let us then show you the data, and then if
you walk away, it's on you, right on you.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, rather than saying, huh, Mike and Dan, we're really
convincing in this blab blah blah blah. Let me go
home and just review the numbers.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Right, we're you know what, Mike, we're basically we could
be a high pots we could be by with this
type of data. If you're gonna put the don out
of there that, Mike, think about it though. If we're
able to get you guys on the cruise ship this
type of data.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Not in a cruise ship in the haven.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
In the haven, you're because you're in the safe haven, right,
you're on the cruise ship in the safe haven. When
you have this version of pillar four.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
What I don't get Dan, I don't mean to interrupt
you but I do it all the time. Why wouldn't
I want to protect my money? You do, Mike, I
can't get it back. Guys, We're gonna get you this data.
Just request it www dot Madison Managers dot com.
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Where's Tokemo? Is that real? I think it's in the Caribbean,
But is it real? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Happy weekend everyone. You know what is Reel the cruise
ship and you all are on it, the Planning for
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It has a safe haven. You all can take your mimosa.
We use extra extra inexpensive champagne, but we will use
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I didn't know that we'll use true champagne. But we
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you walk down to the safe haven, and in the
safe Haven, Mike Brown will be teaching a master's level
course on pillar four.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
We should do that.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well, we discussed all guys. Guys, guess this. I'm gonna
keep this super simple here. Let's let's start. Let's start
with the best way to be in touch because this
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Can we talk about the fixings for one minute? Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean, that's well, if you haven't been a victim yet,
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Speaker 5 (23:58):
If it's when, and if you don't have your credit
reports frozen, you're you're just.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Rolling the dice. It like you roll the dice in
a Blueberry portfolio.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Some guys, And again, guys, takes it takes again, it
takes twenty seconds. Just go out there right now. I
think it's the best fake because again, we all do this.
We want something sounds great, sounds great, sounds great, sounds great.
And the minute we're done listening to Dan and Mike,
the minute we're done watching the show, the minute we're
done on the web, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
We're doing the next thing.
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just gotta let us know that it's really that simple.
Now I want to go back to this, okay, because
we're building something pillar four and Pillar four, guys, has
now taken a step. Okay. We talk about the iterations, right,
we talk about how this is all moving and it's
moving quickly, okay, and direction and here here's the point, guys.
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And we said this when we talked about when when
pillar three, guys, which is the best way to think
about Pillar three is growth, growth with with the ability
to you will hear this correctly fully inoculate yourself against lass.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So in other words, my dollar is always going to
be my do correct your dollar will be your dollar.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And if you want to grow your portfolio like most
people do, and it works, it works nicely over time. Right,
you're gonna keep every penny. Okay, that's really simple. And
when we saw that, we said that that's platinum. That's it.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Okay. Actually we said, I'm sorry what what we said?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Exactly right, So understand that that's pillar three, guys. That's
the kind of the You can't really take it much
further than that. Okay. Now that's within pillar three. Now,
Pillar four has always been I want to be the index, right,
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I love I love can Guard, I love Widelity. I
love these companies. They're so good to me. I love
calling the one eight hundred number. I love being treated
in human I love I love. I love all of it.
I love I love authenticating myself with DNA. I love
all of the above. Right, I love all of the above. Okay,
(26:34):
if you're that person. Right, they have double authentication, triple whatever,
triple because what happens is you get so upset and
get it guys making a say your fingerprints. This is
all about you not being able to get your money.
But don't think anything, don't think it's anything other than that, guys.
And again we've we've done this for way too long. Okay,
(26:54):
here's the point. What Pillar four was initially meant to
do was to toe to toe with that. Okay, they
what they did was they made.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It was a heavyweight against middleweight.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Well that's again that's if you want to learn about it.
But but the point is this. What they did was
they made the mistake Pillar four, the providers of Pillar
four items what they did, they made the mistake because
early adopters like Mike Brown, they put it in his
hands and what he would do is work as hard
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as he could, educating as many people as he could.
But he's only one person, right, He's one person. And
the problem is when you're at the big bank store,
super wirehouse, blah blah blah, and they're fifty brokers on
Joe Street, right, they don't want those brokers talking to
anybody about Pillar four.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Okay, No, it's not. It's not profitable, it's not their house.
Won't let them.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It's not their models, shall we say so? The point
is there's all only so many Mike Browns in the world. Okay,
here's the new problem, O that the traditional wirehouses, the widelities,
the pam guards.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
All of it, I mean, all the investment banks that
became banks because they blew themselves up.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Okay, here's the problem that they have now, Okay, is
there is a Megan Sure who stepped into Pillar four
and said, we're not we're we're gonna stop playing games here, guys,
index Great, we'll protect your downside. Great, but here's what
we're gonna do. If you're having a super duper year
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right in Let's say you're in the Nasdak you want
to be Nasdak, right and you're having a super duper
year and you don't want to risk it going down anymore.
They call it a lock. They say, Mike Brown can
press a button and say we're done for the year,
move on, keep.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Going, because what happens Dan, if I'm in, as you say,
the growth fun and Mississippi. Yeah, okay, my dollar grows
to a dollar twenty.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, we've all been in the growth fund in Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
We're not saying we haven't experienced this ourselves. We have.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
And I say I want to take my ball and
go home for a little bit. So I sell the
growth on in Mississippi. Well, in February of next year,
I'm getting a tax bill versus we're talking about ali
ons in this instance, I want to take my ball
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and go home.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I don't get a tax bill.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Don't you get a tax bill. You get a reset
on where you're moving over the course of the next year. Again,
you put your protections back in place, guys, and you
keep running.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
But I'm not going to get a ten ninety nine
saying things for participating in the parade, and you owe money.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
So let's take the next step. As Mike said, you
get this sell button right, which again isn't a cell button, right,
not a sell button. It's let me let me go dance, right,
let me go dance.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm gonna lock in and reload.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I'm well done. Here's the point. What they've done is
they've done something that's staggering to me, staggering to Mike,
staggering to anyone that's seen these data. They put data
out and they said, hey, any let's do the man.
Let's as Mike Brown always says, let's do the math.
The only thing is they put it on paper and
they said, we're gonna start showing people because we want
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to start kicking butt because we're tired of it. Right.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
And while they're the pioneers, it's coming, guys, they're all
all of our Pillar four friends are gonna start doing this.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Here it is, guys. Just let us educate. Okay, let
us be the disciples. Right, we want to be the disciples.
Let's just compare number. Let us let us be the disciples.
Let us again. Now there's two of us. Now there's
Dan Plansky and Mike Brown. There's the team at Madison. Guys,
there is a reason why the firm that rhymes with
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wat rock. Okay, wat rock Okay, there is.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Why they're meeting in the Middle East right now.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Correct, there's the reason why they are scrambling as fast
as they.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Can because they wanted to Pillar two.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
To attempt to get in this particular game.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
And you know what, as much as I don't love
those people, because I don't love their top brass and
their political views, whatever in case may be, when you
get a heavyweight like those guys moving into an area.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's validation and simply, and it.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Forces all the other peoples to up their game.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
It right.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
If I am the the biggest, baddest tough guy in
the neighborhood and I come in, everybody else is.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Gonna get a little tougher. It's just kind. It's just
it's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We call validation, right, It.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Just and I despise those guys.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Well, you know what, Mike, anybody, here's the thing, guys,
here's the thing, and here's the beauty of our platform.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Right, here's the beauty of our platform.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
If for some reason, despite Michael Brown's dislike of all
all things.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I'll check my ego at the door.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
It's that simple.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
So the point, the point is this guys, brand new
Pillar four brand new pillar four, brand new data around
pillar four, so it's no longer Hey, what ifs maybes?
Hypothetically speaking, what's the average? It's right there. Here we go, page,
(32:35):
it's right there. No different than mutual fund ay right,
Mutual fund B exchange traded fund A exchange traded fun B,
no different, it's right there. It's clean, it's crisp. And
not only is the record there, if you will, right,
the one lost record. Okay, we can educate around that.
(32:55):
To explain to you is not only is the are
the numbers staggering, but we can show you the risk
reduction side as well.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Yeah, and you can see year over year over year
abs guys, because if I look at a twenty year
track record, Dan, and it gives me all this good stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But when they have.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Down thirty percent years the year I need to retire,
that's derailing my retirement.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Going to break. We got so much going on here,
almost as I thought the show is over for a second.
Here we go, guys, we'll be right back. I think
we know the theme, etcetera, etcetera. We're gonna keep educated, guys.
Thanks for being with us. In the meantime, Www Dot
Madisonmanagers dot com. Use the clickie, use the clickie. Dald
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them straight out.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You are about to experience the planning for Prosperity show
in three two.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Year.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
This Beach Boys fabulous.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Oh yeah, okay, wow, I've said it before, I'll say
it again.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
One of the best Christmas albums ever. Yeah. No, very underrated,
the Beach Boys and The Letterman.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
But you sometimes like bands that are actually overrated and
you say they're underrated, but they're truly If the Beach
Boys could be underrated, write their Christmas stuff is underrated?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Why are you attacking me? I'm not, But sometimes your
musical stuff is just way out there.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Michael Brown manager, director Michael Brown, he who knows nothing musical. I,
of course have Daniel Plants.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
You know I have a sixty five percent batting average
against you.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Madison Wealth Managers. Oh, he's so full.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That's no, no, no, that data is not out there.
That that data, that data is unlike what ALIS could provide.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I was just going to say that. It's yeah, guys, guys,
if you've missed the show today, firstly, let's let's give
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been requesting d O D two plant ohs Okay, it's
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You want us to have opinions?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, da, that's not true.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
What do you mean there's also tax and some investment
themes in there.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Well, that's why it's two point zher right, that's why
it's two point oh.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
And and and.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
We've got fix ins what we call fixings guys. Okay,
So the d O D two point oh with all
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on the clickboxes. One may say set an appointment, may
say request information you know.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Et cetera. Insert info here exactly.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Right, guys, just give us the best way we can
either be in touch, whether it's email, phone, and or
just name and mailing address. That's how we get it
to you. And it's totally free. Now, I will say this, guys,
I think that what we've seen, what we've learned out
of a brand new offering out a pillar for I
(36:25):
think it's so I don't want to see revolutionary, but
I think it's so next level. I think it's so
next level that I think, especially like what happens in
these areas if you will, okay, when a lot of
people seem to listen to Mike and Dan, okay, and
that's fine imitation, sincere's form of flattery. Right, a lot
(36:45):
of people listen to Mike and Dan, and then all
of a sudden you start to hear from you guys.
Come back, Hey, Dan, you know the guy that's on
at ten o'clock, he's now they're talking about protections. They're
talking about, you know, guaranteed pension. They're talking about guaranteed penchiones.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Wait a minute, growth with protection about concierge content that well,
that was the ultimate joke but the point, the point
is says, guys, we are so duplicate, we are so
imitated the attempt to duplicate.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Make no mistake. This is so cutting edge. What's going
on in Pillar four. This is going to kick so
much butt out there. We are so proud to bring
it to you first that I think you need to
listen to this show. If you haven't listened to it,
right if you're just catching up right now, that's how novel.
(37:31):
That's what's going on within Pillar four right now. Now,
remember what makes Pillar four so special to us here
at Madison?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Is it? Again?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
This is my opinion only again, I'm entitled to opinions,
and I'll put it out there, I think. And again,
I'm not speaking to California. I'm not speaking to Arkansas.
I'm not speaking to Mississippi. But I believe in this area.
I know this area been around for a while. I've
been in this field for a while, in this area,
I believe Mike Brown was a pioneer a Pillar four. Okay,
I believe he was a pioneer in bringing you Pillar four,
educating you on Pillar four. Now, this was version one
(38:00):
point zero of Pillar four.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
It was a decade decade ago.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Guys, this is when it first moved from the institutions
right being available to the biggest abaion correct, and then
it got democratized. Mike Brown brought you Pillar four. That's
what makes this so special to us. Okay, the latest
and greatest out of Pillar four. It's defining. Okay, it
is defining. So let's put this together. We have a
(38:25):
pioneer in the field. We have a pioneer in the field. Okay,
We've got the whole team here at Madison behind us.
We've got all the education material you could ever want.
You will never be sold at Madison. You will only
be educated, and then you will make a choice. Okay,
your choice.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Now we have a defining vehicle out of Pillar four
that may not be touched Mike maybe what what else
is there?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Well, Lord Willing when these other awful huge to come
into the market and they're going to push everyone to
up their game.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
But here's which is just great. Let ass be the
ones get yes, we feel we just learn it. Let
let as be the ones to do this before Dan.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Here's the funny part. We can have all the growth
we want, YadA, YadA, YadA. If the market does well.
If the market doesn't do well, right, the world keeps fighting, burning, rioting,
high end, whatever excuse you want to use.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
We don't have to be apologetic.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
No, there's no stories, right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I don't want to make those calls. Right, Hey, Dan,
hang in there. Well, I know you're retiring next year
and your dollar is not worth eighty cents historically speak
ba ba ba.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'm not going I'm never doing that well, because that's
just ludicrous.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
But Mike, you understand, and you know this, and I
know you know this, but a lot of people don't
know this is that the reality is is if you
were managing it again, it's no disrespect. It's just what
they have to do. If you're managing mutual fund eye,
hedge fund eye, you gotta come up with something. If
you're asked, hey, how do the hypersonic rockets affect you?
(40:24):
You got to say something.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
You don't think those responses are actually scripted.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Oh well, one hundred person.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Exactly, Mike. But that's but that's what I don't want
to hear a scripted response. You know what I want
to hear, Dan, Mike, you're gonna get your money back tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
You know, and and again, guys, that's what I want
to hear again, guys. Whether it's pillar four that we're
talking about here, this brand new dynamic, dynamic offering at
a pill four, whether it's pillar three, where the game
has already been raised, the bar has been set at
the bar.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
The great just in the last five. But there's the
whole point.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
How much we've got to increase the value proposition.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
And here's the special part of pillar two, guys. The
special part of pillar two isn't just the fact that
you're creating your own pension right where you can get
a raise, right, you can get a raise, and even if.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
It were to go to zero, you can't correct.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Correct. The special part are the rates that are being
offered today. Yes, you heard that right. This is a
timing item. This isn't necessarily the vehicle. Okay, the vehicle's
been here, right, the vehicle. There's a lot of people
with this vehicle who have quote guaranteed rates in the
realm of four and a half percent.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Right, the think that was your father's was it correct? Correct?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
So the point is pillar two need you to take
advantage of it now because of where rates are.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
So that's time I'm going to do. So that's well,
here's the point. I don't retire until they take me
out of here on a gurney. Right, But that's not.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Right, that's not the see Mike, and you just touch
on something. And this is why I love Pillar two.
This is why I love again Pillar two. Guys, for
those of your newbies, that's the guaranteed lifetime, lifetime, guaranteed
pension withdrawal, whatever you want to call it. Okay, here's
why I love it. To your point, Mike, just put
in the toolkit. Put it in the toolkit, because you can, guys,
what the vehicle, the the version that we like, the
(42:12):
chassis that we like. If you will the model that
we like in Pillar two right now, they will allow
you to open an account and add at a future
date of your choosing, whenever you would like.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
So keep going with that.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
So I'm I'm sixty four. I'm going to retire next year. Yeah,
I put a rather small amount of money into this.
H but now I have my reservation. That's it at
the table. That's the best mic. That's so when I
retire and I have my four one K and I say, Dan, Mike,
(42:49):
I need enough income to cover my fixed costs. Right right,
With the possibility of my fixed costs going where up right,
maybe I can get.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
A pa put it in the tank.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
This is not again, guys, No one's asking for a
heavy lift. Just be an adopter. Just be an adopter.
Start an account, just get your ticket, Get punch your ticket, guys,
because we can always add at a later date at
these rates. So here, here's really the best way to
think about this. And this is how we like to
educate when we get you in the office and so
many of you are shaking your head. Yes, here's the
(43:24):
easiest way to think of it. I have Pillar two
right now, right, my guaranteed with draw rate, and let's say,
hypothetically in retirement, my guaranteed withdraw rate for life with
this version of Pillar two, hypothetically, guys, is seven percent.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Okay, So every dollar I have, I get seven cents
of income forever.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Right, can get guys, Right, ok Now, here's the point, guys,
here's the point that iteration. That model will not go away.
It'll be available in two years. But here's the butt.
Here's the butt. There is a high probability. There's a
high probability that the seven percent is no longer, it
(44:04):
will be six percent or lower. Okay, But if I
want to add at that point in time, and I
adopt it at seven, part, here's the juicy part, Guys,
I'm adding at seven when everybody else is not is
adding and or beginning at six. It's not a trick question, guys.
(44:25):
Let us just make it so easy for you. Let's
just get this adopted. And that's why I say to no,
have pillar two right if I'm in that retirement realm right, because.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Pillar two is gonna be my bedrock, well, Mike, when
I go someday.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
And let's make let's make this very clear, guys. Pillar
two is only available to a certain subset of us
who are above a certain age because if they go
on to anyone younger, they go broke.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yeah, they can't. Let's just let's let's just bear it
out there right now. I don't know what's the number,
forty five, fifty.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Fifty, depending on the model.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Right, So if you're fifty years of age, you get
the ticket in the club.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
There is now you need to get the table reservation
in the club.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Mike, you have preached to us this hour.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
You have brought us. Amen, you have brought us the
new Pillar four. This is a defining show.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
It's a defining moment in radio. I will say that
I'll go that far. It's a defining moment in radio. Guys.
Listen to this show, play it back, and then let
us educate on Pillar four before it's being sold. Notice
the language I'm using before it's being sold to you
by Big Box Superstar.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Let us educate first, guys, Www dot Madison Managers dot com.
Use the clickies, let us get in touch, let us
get to the info d od two point on all
the fixings. It's all free. Let's get started now, guys,
thanks for our great show.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Let's go Red Sox
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