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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the EDITFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
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twenty twenty five NFL Draft and brought to you by
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
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Big thanks to the Queen Anne beer Hall, Fox thirteen,
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Taco time for all their work on the mock draft
the other day.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Mike Holmgren, Dick Vane, Hu Millen. My name is Dave Softy.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Maler, and we are through pick number forty four as
of right now. The Colts are actually making their selection
as we speak at number forty six. That puts the
Hawks four picks away at number fifty. For those that
are just tuning in right now. The Seahawks did make
a deal earlier today. They traded number fifty two in
the second round. That's the pick they got from the

(00:57):
Steelers for DK Metcalf at number eighty two in the
third round to move up to number thirty five and
grab safety Nick em and Wari from South Carolina. His
head coach, by the way, Shane Beemer, will joined us
in a matter of seconds. The Coats, by the way,
guys at forty five just took JT to him Allow
out of Ohio State, local guy JT to him Allow

(01:21):
joins a Mecca ag Buca in the first forty five
picks of the draft. How about that, Hugh, Remember Jimmy
Lake rented a seaplane to go pick up JT to
him Allow and fly him around town. That didn't work
at all because the guy went to the Buckeyes and
just won a national championship and just went forty.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Fifth to the calf.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Well, he had a game not last year, but the
year before against Penn State that was just an all timer,
I think three or four sacks, several pressures, and everybody says, well,
this guy's gonna be a top five pick. I mean, ultimately,
he didn't have the twitch. He's a big you know,
he's got the size for sure, but he just didn't
have the twitch. I think he was projected to go
in the second round. This is just kind of exactly

(01:59):
where people thought he would because Mike, he's a you know,
it's a lot, a lot of things to like, but
he just doesn't have that. You know that that that
sudden first step that warrants a first round pick.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Is it wrong for me to be more excited about
our second round pick than our first round pick.

Speaker 7 (02:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Not, I feel like I feel like I've noticed him
a lot more.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
I feel like our first round pick was my trip
to Costco and I got like the stuff that I
needed tolet paper, I got my TP, I got like
my boy, my thirty two pack of water, like all
the stuff that I needed to.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Take that through the say that disabled when you first
made him. You know, when I look at you, I
think I wipe.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
In my book and I just but no, we needed
him right, absolutely, this was this is exciting.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
No, it is anxiety. I mean I I just love
And you said, what dig Off?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
The year that Bruce Feldman has his annual Freaks list, Ye,
he comes out with him.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Where did he rank him on the Freaks? That would
be number one?

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Daniel Jeremiah has nick EMM and worry ranked as his
fifteenth overall prospect.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
In the NFA. Well, then why did he follow to
thirty five? Well, I think just because of the position.
You think, well, I think that the movement uh in
change of direction is not elite. I think the recognition
he's not as extinct instinctive as for example, we're here
talking about Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton coming out of Notre

(03:15):
Dame was judged to be to have a really good
feel for the game and what have you. I just
watched his interception reel on the coaches tape four of
his interception. Of the four interceptions he had last year,
two of them he housed right okay, and they were
in his zone cover he had. He had Garrett Nessmyer
who's quarterback. So they're down in the red zone. Mike,

(03:37):
he's playing the curl flat in a in a three
deep down in the red zone. He buzzes out underneath
and out and jumps up in the air. He looks
like a deer. I mean, there's this grace like it
was just like he was suspended in air. He catches
it about the goal line. So he had buzzed underneath
an out route and then he's just he just puts
on the jets and all those numbers that we're talking about.

(03:59):
He houses that thing. And then the other one was
against Kentucky. He he there was a fake a partial
roll out by the quarterback to the left, and then
he's gonna throw back on an intermediate incut like like
a dig what you would call a dig, and he
floats back underneath that senses where the route progression is,

(04:21):
makes the pick and then houses it. So so a
couple of plays there very instinctive. Another one he had
against Oklahoma, he's a safety on the on the defensive left,
the offensive right. They run an over route and they're
trying to clear it out and get a kind of
a double post concept to the defense's right, offenses left,

(04:42):
and then they're trying to bring an intermediate crossing route.
He's the safety there, he's kind of lagging behind, and
then he sees the balls in the air and all
of a sudden, he just puts on the turbo, comes
up and dives for the interception. So he showed he
showed it in that sense. Reek Wollen last year, both
in preseason and early in the season, he had a
number of those plays. He's chasing the over out from

(05:03):
the back side and then when he sees the balls,
he has the ability to accelerate and get to the ball.
I just just watched that. That was a beautiful interception.
Now one of them, the quarterback's arm got hit, had
just popped up. I'm not I'm not giving him credit
for that, but the three were impressive in different ways.
And to make a diving down by his knees interception. Look,

(05:27):
you know there's nothing more better than a ball hawk
for a safety, right, A guy who can make those
kind of plays.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
No, and he has shown that and with his size
and speed. Like I said, I'll go back to where
how are they going to use him? What can he
what can he do best? Where is strengths? What does
he need to work on? Those types of things? We're
talking about this guy. Now, he's a really good player.
But you do that with everybody you draft, everybody you draft,

(05:54):
you bring him in, you're evaluating that. Okay, we got
to work on this. How do we make you better
in our offense and or our defense? You know, God,
I'm just looking at that. Yeah, sorry, Mike, I'm just
looking at the Rams. The Rams on the clock at
forty six and the Hawks are up in four picks.
There's some big now. Will Johnson still sitting there, Mike
Green still sitting there, on the Marshall But hey, joining
us right now on the radio show. We just heard

(06:15):
the voice of Nick emm and Wari Safety from South Carolina,
who is now a member of the Seahawks secondary. What
do you say we welcome in his head coach from
South Carolina, Shane Beemer, joining us right now on kJ
R and Seattle Shane. It's Dave Matherer, Humill and Dick
Fane and head coach Mike Holmgrin, how are you.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
I'm doing great. Appreciate you guys having me on.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, well, we appreciate you doing this on short notice.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
So tell us who we just drafted for Seahawks Fans
that don't know a lot about nick Emmon Warri, somebody
stops you in the street and says, hey give me
give me thirty forty five seconds on who this kid
is on and off the field.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Tell us about him.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
I'd say he's a Well tell you he was a
great young man, which he is. You know, he's a
god that's been in our program for three years and
I can't remember one issue with him, meaning miss class,
late to class, missed an appointment, any of that stuff.
Great gun band, but from a football standpoint, He's just
a fierce competitor. And that's one thing about this guy.

(07:15):
He's still young, he's only played three years of college football,
but he is an elite competitor. That's when he's at
his best, whether it be practice games, whipple ball, dodgeball,
you name it. Guy just loves to compete and I
think he'll fit in great up there with the Seahawks.

Speaker 8 (07:35):
Coach Bamber, this is Mike Holmgren. Thank you very much
for coming on the show.

Speaker 9 (07:40):
Absolutely, coach, thank you.

Speaker 8 (07:42):
You know what he you know from a coaching standpoint.
You know, we've been doing the numbers and what he
the positions you've put him in during the season, whether
he's back off or in the box, things like that.
Where do you think you tell me so I can
tell him, Mike McDonald, how should they play him? How
should they use it?

Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (08:05):
Well, first of all, coach, it's an honor to talk
to you. Have so much respect for you and all
you accomplished in your career. So it's a real honor
to be on with you. So thanks for having me.
I really truly feel like he could play anywhere. I mean,
I think he's best, uh, you know, at the safety position.
I had a lot of teams call me leading up
to the draft saying, you know that he doesn't really

(08:27):
fit what they do from a system standpoint, you know,
because his strength is just he's so active. And from
what I know about coach McDonald and their system, I mean,
they're they're they're aggressive and and they're gonna use him
in multiple ways. And Nick, I really truly feel like
could do everything because I've seen him do everything. He's
a guy that UH. He played safety for US. UH,

(08:49):
he has played some nickel in the past early in
his career. He actually had a spring a couple of
years ago coach where he went and played corner some
during the spring and he looked very natural out there
doing it. He's just a he's a great athlete. He
saw that at the combine. But you know, we've seen
that during his entire time here as a game cut.

Speaker 8 (09:08):
You know what, when you said he played corner, we
were kicking around the idea of uh in the NFL
now that where they bring in more receivers than when
I was coaching, but he could he could he fit
in as a cover in against an inside receiver in
a slot or things like that. Is that something you.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
Think, you do, I do, I do. I think he
absolutely could. He's just he's so athletic, and he's still
he's still very raw. You know, he was a guy
that coming out of high school, he really didn't have
any offers. He's a local guy. He went to a
high school about twenty minutes from our campus. He came
to our summer camp. It was right after COVID, so
a lot of guys kind of got lost in the

(09:49):
shuffle in recruiting. He came to our summer camp. We
weren't sure what he was going to be, and we
just said we're going to take him as something because
he's that good player, and he came here and he's
got great ball skills, he's got coverability. I have no
question that I think he could do that as well.
I mean, he's a guy for us. We just wanted

(10:11):
to use him as a safety, to be able to
use him in so many different ways. He's got so
much rains in the post, get him around the Salona scrimmage.
He's a good tackler. So we try to utilize him
a lot of different ways. But I certainly think that
any way they want to use him on that defense,
I think he'd be he'd be able to thrive.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, we're visiting with Shane Beemer, who coached Nick Emm
and Worry, the new safety for the Seattle Seahawks. And
and you know, naturally there's gonna be some comparisons in
these parts to to Cam Chancellor. So i'd like to
you to touch on that. And and also if you
if you could go back in time and say, look,
I got a crystal balls. You're gonna be a second

(10:50):
round pick. And the reason you're going to be a
second round pick not at first is because for your development,
you need to work on blank What what is it
that he needs to to work on to be a
great pro?

Speaker 9 (11:04):
You know I think, uh, well, first of all, the
Camp Chancellor comparisons, I love my Cam Chancellor obviously played
for my dad at Virginia Tech. Uh so I'm a
huge Cam Chancellor fan. And and uh I love those comparisons.
And and uh our defensive backs coach here to coach Nick,
he was a former Virginia Tech safety. So there's so
many comparisons from that standpoint and connections. I'd stay with Nick,

(11:28):
you know, I think it's just fit for everyone. And
and in regards to what he just needs to work at.
For me, it's just it's it's it's experience. He he's
not a guy that is transferred around to a lot
of schools like you see guys having this draft. It's
not a guy that you know, came in and red
shirted and played three years. He he's very raw.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
And.

Speaker 9 (11:49):
You know, he has only played three years of college
football and he's still very very young. So I think
it's just the you know, continuing not that he's immature,
but just to continuing too mature, uh, mature own off
the field is gonna do nothing but help him. And
and you know, I know a lot of the teams
that I talked to last night had that had first

(12:09):
round picks, were very interested in Nick. And I've talked
to more head coaches and general managers about Nick and
a couple of our other guys in the last couple
of weeks. And I have my entire four years as
the head coach here, and they were very interested and
just decided to go in a different direction last night.
But he very easily could have been in the first round.
And I told him when the draft was over, I
called him and I texted him and I said, there's

(12:30):
gonna be teams tomorrow fighting over you to try and
trade up to be able to pick you. And that's
exactly what happened. And couldn't be more excited for him.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
So coach along those lines, where will the greatest learning
curve be for him? In his first training camp and
early in his first season.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
Probably adjusting to the Pacific Northwest. As born and raised
right here in Columbia, South Carolina, has never lived out
of twenty minutes of the Deep South. You know, sot'll
be an adjusted for him. But he's a guy that's
very curious and inquisitive a lot of things. And I
think he'll fit in great out there, you know, I

(13:11):
think he'll come in. He's a very confident god. That's
what you want those defensive facts to have. He's a
very confident god that has an edge and a competitive,
you know, spirit about himself. And and I think, really
it'll just be getting used to, you know, the lifestyle
of being a being a pro and this is now
a job. And when he was in college, he went

(13:33):
to class and he did all that and he's only
been in college three years. You're talking about a young
guy that's only three years out of high school. That's
you know now in Seattle, Washington, across the country and
and and whatnot, and he'll do fine. He's a guy
that is very he's very He's got a strong personality
and a lot of energy, and I think people out
there are going to love him.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
Coach, this is Mike again, thank you very much for
coming on. We really appreciate it, and I just want
to say, keep it going, good luck next season, and
you can be very proud of the job you did
with this young man.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
Well, I appreciate it. I'm excited for him to be
out there. And everybody wants guys that love football and
love to compete, and that's exactly what Nick is so
looking forward to following his career. And thank you for
saying that.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, Hey, Shane, great stuff. Appreciate this. Best of luck.
We'll talk down the road. Man.

Speaker 9 (14:25):
Sounds good. You guys have a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Take you care that Shane Beamer, the head coach in
South Carolina. Good work by Jess getting him on, just
glowing right. I mean it starts off by saying I
never had a problem with the guy, miss meeting Miss Cladden.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Nothing he was phenomenal the whole time.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
You'd love coaching this guy obviously, so good for him.
Nick Emm and warri Seahawks moved up to number thirty
five and drafted the safety from South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
That trade was about an hour or so ago.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
They gave up fifty two in the second round eighty
two in the third round to move up to thirty
five to grab Nick Amm and warre As. We sit
here right now the Raiders, I actually I believe they
made a deal with the Texans. Yeah, the Raiders just
made a deal with the Texans at number forty eight,
so they are on the clock right now. Will Johnson
guys just went off the board to Arizona at number

(15:12):
forty seven.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
He was preceded by our favorites.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Ambidextrous Oregon tight end Terrence Ferguson just went to the
Rams at number forty six.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Did he fake an injury?

Speaker 3 (15:23):
He did to the but he grabbed his right legging
and his left leg, so nobody knows which foot it was.
And then j T two, him Allow from the Eastside,
Catholic of the Ohio State, went forty five to the Cult.
So we are literally now three picks away from the
Hawks being back on the clock at number fifty. We're
going to break and we'll have that for you coming
up live from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center on Draft

(15:44):
Day twenty twenty five, Round two and round three tonight
right here on ninety three three KJRFM.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Welcome to the NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Now back to the Virginia Mason Athletics Center and then
twenty twenty five Draft and brought to you by Coors Light,
by R and R Foundation specialist the Queen Anne beer Hall,
and by Fox thirteen on Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ r FL.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Back here, Second Rider of the NFL Draft continues live
on ninety three three KJARFM. Soft E Hugh, Mike comeran
Dick Fane from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. How about this, boys,
You wake up at five twenty eight on a Friday afternoon,
the sun is shining, birds are chirping, and all of
a sudden, the Hawks are.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
On the clock.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Boom, unbelievable at number fifty. Worked out pretty good, Huhi.
Thanks to Shane Biemer for jumping on. He was Nick
emn Wari's college coach at South Carolina if you're tuning
in now. Seahawks moved up earlier today and grabbed number
thirty five from the Titans and took the safety from
South Carolina. They are now back on the clock at
number fifty.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
One of Hughes favorites is still there well.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
In reverse order, Demetrius Knight from South Carolina. Literally, we
just had Shane Biemer on the air and his linebacker
just got drafted by the Bengals at number forty nine
and Adane URSI hope I'm saying his name right, by
the way, can always use phonetics, very helpful. Out of
Minnesota offensive tackle went to the Texans, and then Will
Johnson went to the Cardinals from Michigan at number forty seven.

(17:12):
Mike Green is still there. Say it with me now
though at number fifty chadoor Oh chudduor Shador Sanders is
dropping like a freaking boulder in this draft. And I'm
gonna read you a quote. You may agree with this
quote here, Dack Fane, you're ready, all right? What is
wrong with the NFL owners? Are they stupid? Deon Sanders
was a great college football player, was even greater in

(17:34):
the NFL. He's also a very good coach, street wise
and smart. Therefore, Shador's quarterback son has phenomenal jeans and
has all set for greatness. He should be picked immediately
by a team that.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Wants to win.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Good luck to Shador, and say hello to your wonderful
father who wrote that, Donald Trump. I swear to god,
Donald Trump set that out an hour ago.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
You think that's helping.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
This is the circus that we are dealing with. Okay,
so Hawks on the clock right now, talk to me.
What do you want to say?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Mike Green? I think we got just this head on.
There's reports of multiple sexual assass which we knew that
a couple of days ago. But and and so you know,
he may just be Mike. You're you're given the safe sign,
which means off the board.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Well, you know when you when you when you look
at those things for all the players, there are you know,
there's one little red thing on the and then there's
then there's two, then there's you know, a big giant X.
So if it's if it's too much, then yeah, I
don't I don't want him.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
You know what about seventh round?

Speaker 8 (18:49):
No, no, no, when they say off.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
The board, you mean off.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
The off the board. You might take him over here
and just put put the card over here. Then you
still get some blowback during the meeting. Hey, come, Mike,
come on for the defensive guys.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
You know, it's interesting that Jerry Jones says his biggest
regret was, let's heard.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Of the podium.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Let's find out who the Seahawks take here at number
fifty to Green Bay, we go.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Let's get this live on the air.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
South there.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
What up twelves before we start?

Speaker 10 (19:21):
I gotta say happy birthday to my son Jedediah.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Every want to say happy birthday.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
He's got ten kids, you know what.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
That time.

Speaker 10 (19:31):
With the fiftieth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
the Seattle Seahawks select Elijah Arroyo tight end Miami.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I've Sean Alexander with the selection tight end Elijah. He
pronounced it ario. I think it's I assume that it's
a Royo, but you never know. People pronounce things differently.
Tight end Elijah Arroyo or rio. If you believe Sean
is the selection out of the Miami, out of the
you minor Mark James is happy about this. Thirty five

(20:05):
catches five hundred and ninety yards. Seven touchdowns last year
for the Hurricanes. A guy that played four years, all
of them at Miami and spent the last year with
the number one pick in the draft, and cam Ward
Elijah Arroyo out of Miami tight end is the pick
for the Hawks view at number five.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Well, I have not studied his tape, and I will, you.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Know why, on the first round, That's exactly, But excuse me,
by Monday, I will have studied a lot of his tape.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Mike, just kind of looking at reports more of a
wide receiver. I saw him playing in person the opening
game Miami versus Florida, and so what I've seen, I've
seen a lot of cam Ward tape, and and so
I'm just, you know, kind of tangentially aware. You know,
this guy has really good movement skills. The blocking. I
think there's another you know so so, but but but

(20:52):
we get the impression that you're you prioritize receiving skills
far more uh in a tight end. But I think
I think this got a receiving tight end. That's about
all I can say for now. So maybe talk about
the position, the need for the Seahawks and your idea
that they get a pretty darn good receiving tight end
here in the second round.

Speaker 8 (21:13):
We know it what his size and six five, two fifty. Okay,
so he's got good size. But you're right if he can.
But the only thing is thirty five catches in a
season with cam Ward that that doesn't that's not all.
That isn't that doesn't less. That's not over the top
in my opinion. But I think it's a good pick
for as far as need. And you know they're balancing
out there. It seems to me they're plugging. They're plugging holes,

(21:36):
and that's what he that's what they're trying to do
with this draft.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
You know.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
I like the pick. I like the fact they got
a tight end. I haven't studied that. I've not looked
at him, but I trust them. They wanted him as
a pass receiving tight end. I think it's huge.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, I just think in the end, it's a position
in need. I mean, the no offense thing hasn't worked out.
I know you're a big fan of Barnarov Hansley, but
he still has a lot to prove it does. I
just think again, you're talking about knocking off guys off
the draft lists that are gonna play a lot for
you in year one. I mean, this kid's gonna come
in and play a ton I mean war He's gonna
play a ton in Gray Zabel's gonna start for you.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
You know what he looks like to me, just right,
just right off the just watching for the first time,
watching highlights. He looks like Jeremy Stevens. I mean, his
body looks like how he runs, how big he is.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
He looks like Jeremy Stevens.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
I mean, I don't know if he's gonna translate like
that to the NFL, but that's that's what he looks like.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Just don't run seam rocks in the Super Bowl to
this guy and you'll be fine.

Speaker 8 (22:30):
But you know, I think I don't know Clint Kubiek.
I knew his dad, but I know where he comes
from and his and what he I think, what he lunched,
what he wants to do, what he likes to do
on offense, and that kind of fits with what I'd
like to do. You know, the tight end is a
valuable part of that. You know, it was always a
valuable part of Denver's offense with Shanahan and his dad,

(22:53):
and you know, it's huge. And so if this guy
can be that guy as a receiving tie right and
an adequate blocker, you know that's a win. That's a
win win.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
Well.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Look, I mean obviously they've got other needs they have
to address. I'm just looking at where this guy finished
at the combine. He didn't do much at the combine,
didn't run the forty no vertical at the combine. I
gotta go back and look at his pro day numbers.
But the bench, she had twenty two reps on the bench,
which was number three among all tight ends. That's the
only information I've got guys coming out of the combine.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
But I think the tight end position has.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Been a disappointment, right, I mean you when they traded
Russell Wilson and they got to Shelby Harris and No
Offant and Drew Locke and those draft picks of the
guy that I was most fired up about was No
Offent and it just hasn't panned out for him.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
From is good in my opinion, if you kind of
get him out in the to the the second level,
third level, you run a high corner route. He's got
the speed to cover some ground.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Right.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
What I don't like is his nuance around the world
line of scrimmage on option routes. I think his technique
is very flawed. As a consequence, he does not get
he rarely gets separation. I don't think his instincts are
great in the scrambled drill. I think as a tight end.

(24:15):
As a tight end, he looks you know, he's often
laid off the ball and blocking short yardage running situations.
It just it seems like that was just a mess. So,
you know, I just think he's a guy that, uh,
you know, easily replaceable and and you know, I just
spent pretty good capital second round or to get a

(24:37):
tight end.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Hey, how about we do this, guys, Let's get a
quick break here. Jackson kind of get caught up here
a little bit if we can, Uh, Andrews, I'm sorry,
that's I didn't mean to insult.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
You by the he was talking out. Let's do it.
Elijah Royal meeting with the media now at the vMac.
Where do you say. We're listening live on ninety three
three kJ.

Speaker 11 (24:53):
R FL as long as you can do you hear guy?

Speaker 7 (25:07):
Excuse me, you hear guy? Yeah? Yeah, y'all were cutting
out a little bit at the beginning, and y'all they're good.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Now, congratulations. Just what's your reaction to get in that
phone call?

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Man? It feels unreal. I'm still trying to take it
all there. It's a real feeling, honestly.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Next, how much cospondence did you have with the Seahawks
during the pre draft process?

Speaker 7 (25:33):
Not much at all, Honestly. I think I had a
formal interview with them at the combine and that's about it.

Speaker 11 (25:40):
Did you even all when you were down there?

Speaker 7 (25:45):
I don't think I did, not one hundred percent shared.

Speaker 12 (25:48):
Of how do you characterize how you characterize your game
as a tight end Miami us inline or you're kind
of as a receiver?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Uh so?

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I mean I lined up everywhere throughout my college career, really,
you know, everywhere on the field, and I feel like,
you know, that's that's where I you know, thrive, just
being able to spread out and you know, create miss message.
Excuse me, I mean having having somebody who can you know,

(26:30):
read defenses and and get you the balls everything. Honestly,
he just I feel like he made the game a
lot more easier for us, and just you know, I
was able to learn the way that he thought, and
I feel like it slowed the game down a little bit,
I mean as well.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
After that.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot. I wouldn't say any
that I modeled my game after. I try to take
you know a lot of things from a lot of
different players. Uh, but right now, the guys I like watching.
I like watching Daltons, you know the contain Uh. I
like watching Mark Andrews, Isaiah likesing John new Smith. Because

(27:13):
there's a lot of guys I like watching right now.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
What route of all the past three the route tree?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
What route did you catch the most?

Speaker 7 (27:24):
What route? Honestly, I have pretty much everything. I had
a lot of slips this year, like they were just
we run a lot of splits on this last year
and they would just have me run splits just to
you know, get me the ball, just because I mean,
we were in the system that wasn't very I wouldn't

(27:44):
say it was entight end friendly, but you know, we
weren't really featured in the offense. But you know I
had to figure out a way to get mine.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
And what is your favorite route?

Speaker 7 (27:55):
Uh? Favorite route? Any route I get the ball? Honestly?

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Okay, how would I describe a game.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
How would you discribe your game?

Speaker 7 (28:10):
I would say, well, first of all, consistent. I'm an
eleite competitor. You know, you look on film, you know
exactly what we're gonna get with me. You know that's
you know, tremendous effort, and you know, just everything out
of me in general. You know, in the past game,
you know, I can stretch the field. I'm basically like
a receiver out there. I mean, I can run every
route in the route treat. I understand how to get open,

(28:32):
I understand you know, zones. Yeah, I feel like I'm
I'm a great you know, just overall tight end.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
How much in line blocking did you do it Miami?

Speaker 11 (28:43):
The last couple of years?

Speaker 7 (28:46):
I did a decent amount. You know, Uh, I really
improved these past couple of years, and you know, there's
there's still a lot more rooms to improvement as far
as just my in line blocking and you know, just
uh yeah, just just learning how to help the offensive
many way I can.

Speaker 11 (29:02):
Where have you seen those from that standpoint a.

Speaker 8 (29:07):
High school mainly as past catchers. Where did you feel specifically.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
That I had? Yeah, I mean I was basically the same.
I mean I came into college, I had to, you know,
learn how to block, and you know I improved my
route and learnning uh as well as you know, at
the same time I was doing.

Speaker 13 (29:25):
That, you had an unique connection with Uh can you
talk about the heartfel message you left in the connection
you had with that school and you're looking to have
the same connection.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
With the throws up the side.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
Excuse me?

Speaker 13 (29:41):
I said you had a unique connection with the University
of Miami.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Can you talk about that?

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Yeah? Uh, yeah, So I always you know, I grew
up a Caynes Fans. My whole family's knes Fans. Whole
family's from here, from down in Miami. Uh So you
know I always wanted to you know, I always grew
up watching the Kynes highlights. And you know, once I
started getting recruited, bringing the you back was one thing
I really had to do. And you know I used

(30:09):
to watch you know, the Seahawks games, you know, not
too long ago, you know, when I was a kid,
and you know, I'm gonna do my best to you know,
bring that back as.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Well, did you All Right, guys, there you go a
little bit from tight end Elijah Arroyo, who was the
Seahawks pick tight end from Miami at number fifty. Visiting
with the media here for a few minutes at the VMAX.
So just a recap, hang on, just a quick second, Dick.
The Seahawks took Gray's Abel yesterday at number eighteen. They
moved up to thirty five today and took safety Nick

(30:38):
Gum and Warri from South Carolina, and then just grabbed
Elijah Arroyo tight in Miami at number fifty right there.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah, a tweet from Bruce Feldman just a couple of
minutes ago. He said, good draft for the Seahawks so far.
Elijah Arroyo. Watched him at the Senior Bowl. He can
run routes like a receiver. He is hard to match
up against. He creates issues for defenses, and he thinks
his game really translates to the next live.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Well, we got Humeling Mike Homer watching some film right now.
We'll get their take on this after the break. As
we continue live from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Round
two of the draft is underway and almost complete. Round
three coming up tonight live right here on ninety three
three KJRFM.

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Speaker 2 (31:18):
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Speaker 9 (31:39):
I would tell you he was a great young man,
which he is. You know, he's a god that's been
in our program for three years and I can't remember
one issue with him, meaning this class, late to class,
this appointment, any of that stuff. Great young man, but
from a football standpoint, he's just a fierce competitor.

Speaker 11 (31:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
That is the voice of Shane Beemer, who was on
with the air with us about a half an hour ago.
He's the head coach at South Carolina. People may be
asking why did you put Shane Biemer on the radio
show Softy, Well, because we just drafted his safety, at
least the Seahawks did. They moved up from fifty two
and eighty two to go to thirty five in the
second round and grab Nick em and Wari safety from

(32:20):
South Carolina, and then just moments ago at number fifty,
the Seahawks shocking the NFL world by drafting tight end
Elijah Arroyo out of Miami at number fifty. A couple
of picks off the board. Since then we are all
the way to fifty six already with the Bears on
the clock. Now Anthony Belton tackle NC State to the
Packers at fifty four. Trey Harris wide receiver, Ole Miss

(32:43):
to the Chargers at fifty five. Benjamin Watson cornerback Notre Dame,
went to the Buccaneers at fifty three. So Bears Bronco's
Raiders next up on the clock, and Jalen Milroe still there,
Shador Sanders still sitting there. Tyler Shuck was the third
quarterback taken in this draft after the Giants moved up

(33:04):
and grabbed Jackson Dart in the first round yesterday. And
Tyler Schuck went to the Saints at number forty out
of Louisville. So Mark James is gonna join us the
f A new guy MJ in the midday coming up
at the top of the how. He's a big Hurricane fan,
so he's gonna spout off about Elijah Royo and tell
us what we're getting in him. But you've been watching
Film on the Guy. You watch coach from Film on

(33:24):
the Guy. What do you guys see from this kid
so far. Well, I'm looking at the coaches tape, which
is the inner cut. They all twenty two in the
end zone, and I'm sitting there going what did everybody
else miss? Because he moves like a six two and
twenty five pound guy, Mike, I'm wondering why he didn't

(33:45):
catch more, Like I had to go back and look
at the combine or at his prote He was six
foot five and a eighth two hundred and fifty pounds,
and he just doesn't move like there was a play.
I've studied a lot of his tape and know that
was him. I thought that there was another tight end
that was him. He's number eight. He had to play
in the in the bowl game, where.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
A guy's in a split safety defense, you got to
imagine two safeties on any other. So there's there's a
pipe right down the middle. There's a route where you come.
Sometimes you just run down the middle, but the mic
linebacker will kind of see that route and he'll get
underneath it. He runs a route in the bowl game
where he goes at the the mic backer to freeze
him and then accelerates by him. He's he's he's gaining ground.

(34:33):
On the dude like he's standing still. A beautiful touchdown.
He catches it like a wide receiver. There's a number
of routes here, Mike that I just described one. There's
there's already been ten that I've seen that really impressed me.
I think his movement skills are fantastic.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Yeah, the routes the film we looked at his he's
really impressive. He's really impressive. To your point though, heugh,
you know, then if I'm Miami, maybe they didn't need it.
But he catches thirty five balls for the year. They
should have thrown them more. Yeah, that's what That's what
I'm saying. Because he can make the plays he made

(35:09):
when when it was close he now jumped a couple
of guys. He has good speed, good movement. Yeah, and
he's big. Yeah, you know, so it boils down listen,
and when he comes here, how do we use him?
How do we take advantage of his abilities?

Speaker 7 (35:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Well, remember that they had Damien Martinez running the ball
down there, and they also had three receivers that caught
fifty passes or more. So he was the fourth leading
receiver on the team and for those for those just
just to kind of educate.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
I don't hope, hope, I don't sound condescending this ground.
There's some routes that if you know football at all,
you know you know, you know what a post route is.
You know what a slant route is, right, you know
what a shallow cross is. He used a term where
or We asked him, what's your favorite or what route
did you catch the most? He said, a slip route.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
What he means is he he lines up. Let's say
he's on the left on a wing at an off position.
That's the important part of this. He's in an off position,
so the wide receiver on that side outside of him
would be on. So he's in an off position, which
is is the position that a tight end would in
a split zone. Let's say you go inside zone to

(36:22):
the left running play and the tight end is on
the left. Off the ball, he goes across the formation
to block the backside end. But then off of that
they run at him, and then he slips into the
flat and it becomes like an RPO. So now cam
word he's in. He's in this shotgun and then he fakes,

(36:44):
he fakes the run, and then he hits the flat route.
That's to the right side, but he lined up on
the left, so he ran behind the line of scrimmage
and then slipped out in the flat. So they did
a lot of that. They attached to it to an RPO,
so cam Ward can decide whether to hand off or
just to throw it in the flat. So he said,

(37:04):
that's the route that I caught the most at. But
right he says, I can still get downfield, Guys, he
can get downfield.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
He looks like the perfect fit, you know, if we
want to have more productivity from the tight end position
here Physically he looks based on the film, I looky,
he's a perfect fit. Today's point when you're talking about
their receivers and they're running back that they spread the

(37:33):
ball around. They had a lot of talent. So my criticism,
not criticism, but my looking at the thirty five catches
probably was an oversimplification. He can do it now. I
think he's a very talented guy. Let's use him.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Yeah, well, you and I have been on the same
page on Noah fan for a long time. Neither one
of us are big fans. No fans and no a
fan could make thirteen million dollars or you could cut
him for four point five. I mean, is this all
of a sudden a guy that could just step in
and replace Noah Fan Or you're like, Nah, just let's
just play Noah for his last year and let this

(38:07):
guy kind of ease into that spot.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Well, I think you do really make that determination until
you see things through training camp. You know, are their injuries,
how is he picking up the the playbook? Can he
handle you know? How's he blocking? Uh? You know, I
I think he could be a casualty at the end
of August or even there's a financial decisions that are
made at the end of of of training camp, Mike

(38:32):
to the chagrined players, because players don't have the leverage.
The teams have the leverage at that point. But it
could happen. But we got it. There's a lot of
stuff we need to say.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
Actually, and then the number one thing is and I
you've heard me say, I want a tight end who's
a past receiver, but he can be an adequate blocker.
He's got to be an adequate at least an adquid blocker,
and I haven't seen that enough there. He looks like
he could be a really good pass receiver, but he's
still he's playing tight end. Yeah, so you're gonna ask
him to block.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
You won't see a lot of highlights of a guy
blocking on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
You see a lot of catches on you.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
The highlight films or a lot of drops.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
That's why they're called highlight, not low light films. But hey,
good stuff man, great job today. All right, you're free
to go.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
Thank you. All right, Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Enjoy your weekend and we'll talk very soon. Coach, appreciate
you coming home. Mike hongrim with us. We're gonna get
a break. Mark James mj in the midday, gonna hop
out with us next. Give us his thoughts on the
draft for the Seahawks so far, and you might know
that he's a big Miami Hurricane fan.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
He'll join us.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Give us his thoughts on Elijah Arroyo, tight end from Miami,
who the Hawks just took at number fifty to add
that to Grey Zabel who they got yesterday. And then
nick em and Wari's safety from South Carolina Seahawks earlier today,
trading picks number fifty two and eighty two to move
up to thirty five with the Titans and grab the
safety nick em and Wary from South Carolina. We'll get

(39:52):
you caught up on the entire second round of the draft.
MJ and the Midday gonna hop on Salo next on
ninety three three KJRFM.
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