12th Man 2025 Draft Coverage: Day 2 7pm and 8pm Hours

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Now back to the Virginia Mason Athletics Center and the
twenty twenty five NFL Draft and brought to you by
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Fam.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
All right, we're back at the Virgina Mason Athletic Center, Internet,
Rob Rang and Hugh Milling with you until I'll say
around nine o'clock or so. We'll see how it is.
Let's take care of some business real quick as well.
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get to the draft. The Seahawks have made three selections
so far, they have one more left. Today'll we pick
number twenty eight of this the third round, which we're
in the midst of right now, ninety two overall, and
then coming up tomorrow rounds four through seven of picking
the fourth round, two in the fifth and two in
the seventh to wrap things up on Day three of
the NFL Draft. A guard, a safety, and a tight

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end so far. So let me start first with you,
Rob Rang. Do you have some players in mind as
we look ahead, and certainly they can all we can
all know they could come off the board in the
next few minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Too, Yeah, no question about it. I mean there there
are some players that I think are are pretty interesting
still for the Seahawks. Specifically, I think that there we
talked about this before, defensive line to me, is still
a position of concern. Again, on paper, it doesn't sound
like a position of concern. I mean, you can make
the argument that's the strongest positional group out there when

(01:34):
you see guys like Leonard Williams and obviously the first
round selection of Buyer Murphy.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
You know that this past year.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
But still I do think that you need some more
beef at that nose guard position. Specifically, I think that
you need some edge rushers. Jack Sawyer, for me, you
know from Ohouse Date, is a guy that is intriguing
that is still available. He plays with the motor that
I know that that Mike McDonald has always kind of,
you know, prioritize guys. I'll mention another one, Savion Jones

(02:02):
from from LSU is another one that's has the physicality.
Braydon Swinson another one from LSU to the to LSU
defensive lineman I think would make some sense at this
point in the draft. And then, uh, you know again,
wide receiver is very much a position of concern. The
receiver that I actually had the Seahawks selecting a number

(02:24):
ninety two overall on the on the whips or on
the mock draft. It's at seahawkx dot com right now.
Jalen Royals from Utah State to me would make an
awful lot of sense. Six foot two and five pounder
and a guy who's very very effective in the Mountain
West Conference.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
All right, Hugh, if you had a wish list right now,
I'm not going to ask you player specific, but I'll
ask you position specific. What do you think the need
is right now?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Outside receiver? Okay? An ex Yeah, an ex receiver and
you lost DK metcalfay.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Let me let me, let me have you explain again,
because they'll say, hey, they've got Cup and they got JSN,
they signed Marcus Valdez Scantling and what have you tell people?
The and whether it's in this offense or overall, why
they need an X and what an X does well.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
First of all, you have to say that the league
is an eleven personnel team league. Thirty one of the
thirty two teams have their number one most frequent personnel
group is eleven personnel. What that means is one running back,
one tight end, and three wide receivers. The only team
that does not have as their number one most frequent

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is the Baltimore Ravens, who have a twelve personnel. And
so it's a it's an eleven personnel league, and sixty
two point six percent of all plays are snapped out
of eleven personnel. Excuse me, three receivers or more. That
would that would include any receiver set with three or more.
So when you look at a receiver group, you say, okay,

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you have receivers that have characteristics that you want to
see in the slot, because when you're in the slot
the way a deep will play except for when they
play cover zero, which is an all out blitz, which
is about one and a half percent or even less
of of all downs, there's gonna be a safety. So

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if you go vertical, there's somebody like an earl Thomas.
I'm not saying they're gonna be as good as Earl Thomas,
but even single high defenses, there's a safety that can
can prevent the d pass when you're in a slot.
So if you have if you have deep speed, that
that's not gonna help you. You're either gonna be capped
by a two safety defense or there's gonna be a

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single safety defense where he can he can he has
the range to get over. Okay, So so having all
out speed is not important, but because you're closer to
the ball, having the ability to go on a shallow
cross in towards the ball and get to the other side,
or there's a lot of grass to the side you're on,
Like if you line up in the slot to the right,

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there's a lot of grass out to the right sideline
because you are in close to the ball. So the
so the quickness to be able to uh, let's say,
on an option route to recognize, hey, do I go
in or do I go out? Do you you present
a real threat to the outside and and and then
those are the generally in zone defense, that's the domain

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of linebackers and safeties. They're not as good as athletes,
but you got a better feel for Hey, where am
I gonna sit inside this defense? I'm I'm I'm in
the area where lesser athletes, bigger lesser athletes are. But
there's more for me to process and think. When you're
outside most most all the time, I'll say ninety percent

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more of the time. If you're a receiver outside, you're
gonna have a corner on you almost always. And and
so now that corner is not as big, but he's
the best athlete on their team, and he's the fastest,
he's the quickest. So now part of your uh, your
threat has to be, hey, I can run by you.

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There's no safety to help you. Your biggest concern, Like
if you're I'm a receiver, I'm out on the left
near the sideline. You're the corner. You come out and
split with me. The number one thing you have to
prevent is me on a nine route. That's a go route.
You got you gotta get your ass out of there
and not let me beat you because that'll get you
benchd right. So, but if you're good, you got to

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defend that primarily, but then any stop route or anything
in front of you, you got to still be able
to defend that, even though that's the least of the threats.
So the characteristics for an outside receiver is you want
to have that speed and then if you have some
size right then now you'll generally be bigger than a

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corner because the attributes to to be able to mirror
a wide receiver. That doesn't happen often in a a
in a six three or six y four pa. You know,
that's why guys like Richard Sherman. If you can actually
do it like like that, you can be elite. But
the average corner side I'll promise you the average corner
size in the NFL is probably right at six feet okay.

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And so if you've got a six y two receiver
who has some speed, now, as a quarterback, I say, oh,
that's a pretty tasty target. I got. I got height
out there, length and and speed. So you outside you want,
you want a little bit of size, you want a
little bit of speed. You don't need you don't need
the short airy quickness. By the way, as if you

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line up outside, you can't do any if you're close
enough to the sideline, you can't do any speed cuts
to the out. So so there's some of the route
tree is him is pared down, but you have that
threat of the vertical. So the Seahawks. Sorry, that's a
long explanation this Jackson Smith and Jigba and Cooper Cup. Certainly,

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Cooper Cup is a slot guy. Right If if he
goes out and he lines up near the sideline and corner,
a corner is gonna say, dude, you can't run. I'm
just gonna I'm gonna just go, you know, going fourth gear.
Think of a manual stick shift. You run, You had
a stick shift when at some point, So I'm gonna
be in like third or fourth gear, I don't need
to get the fifth or sixth gear. I'm gonna just

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shadow you at third or fourth gear. If you try
and run by me, I can accelerate and so I
can be in your hip because your speed doesn't scare me.
That's what a corner would say. But you put hint
Cooper Cup inside right, and he's got all this experience,
all this mocks. He can he can put a little
a quick move on a linebacker in zone coverage to

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just to freeze him for second and then turn settle
down and he and now he's got opening zone. That
is a totally different, uh, physical skill set than being
out there on the near the sideline trying to beat
a corner. And so now Texas Smith and Jigbub you know,
he can play outside, but he's better inside. Okay, So

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if you put Jackson Smith in jigbat iss z a
Z is the widest receiver, but he's off the ball.
He can go in motion right and he can he
can go motion in and out, and so you can
use him on kind of some of the inside stuff,
some of the outside sports. He's a good Z. I
wouldn't want to have Cooper and the Cooper Cup's going
to be an outside guy. He's going to be a Z.

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The X is generally on most formation is going to
be on the line. Screams means he can't go in motion.
That means he's more susceptible to a physical jam with
the line scrimmage because he doesn't have that yard of
separation at the line of scrimmage. He's right there on
the line and he can get jammed. So you've got
to be good on your release and UH and have
some have some strength to you have some size and

(09:43):
have some speed to scare the corner so that when
you do it. Let's say you do a fifteen sixteen
yard stop route, call it a comeback call, whatever you
want that is open when the corner fears your speed.
And so so what Seattle just doesn't have they don't
have right now that Bobo has the size speed, he

(10:08):
doesn't have the speed. No, and and ms Thuviascanley, I
think I think he's really deteriorating. I am nervous as
hell to just say, well, he's our ex doesn't also
have the best hands we've ever seen either, right now?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Like that's it?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
So Cody White, might you know? Like there if there's
a dark horse, if there's a dark horse, in my mind,
it would be Cody White. But I can't count on that,
not not on drafting. I can't count on that.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I mean, Cody White's a guy that they flirt with
for the last ten years. They flirt with him for
the last three years, and it's not gonna happen. No,
all right, So, Rob, we just saw a receiver come
off the board that would be Saveon Williams from TCU
went to Green Bay at number twenty three eighty seven overall,
So give me some exes. How many ex's are out there,
and he ex has got you excited out here for
the Seahawks if they want to make that selection.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
And I hate to say it, but you just mentioned
one of them, the saveon that just went He was
actually brought into Seattle on one of those already visits
and and so he may very well have been the
guy that they were thinking about.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
They may not be happy down the hall where they.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
May not be, you know, and hey, that's what the
old saying, Lord given, Lord, take it away.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
I mean, I think that the the Seahawks may have
stolen Elijah Royo the tight end a couple of picks
ahead of where where Pete Carroll was selecting. And and
they want to actually see me that was nick Emmon
Moory that the safety I'm getting the day two.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Is starting to run together for me as well.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
But I do think that there are some X receivers
in this draft still available that would make some sense. Again,
save Wims, the wide receiver from TCU just went off
the board a couple of moments ago. My favorites that
are left that that have the combination of size, physicality,
agility at the line of scrimmage be able to get
a free release and then also catch the ball cleanly.

(11:48):
To me, there's two guys that I think fit in
for right about right here. Elik I you Manor, the
six foot two, two hundred and six pound receiver around
a four four four for Stanford. He's only a red
shirt sophomore. He's actually Canadian born guys. So hey, if
the whole NFL wants to leave him alone from my
BC lins, I'd love to have that happen. But elk
aiu Mannor, he plays with a physicality, and Zach that's

(12:13):
a good point, but he plays. One of the things
I like most about him is that he is one
of those guys that even if he's got a.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Defender draped over him.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Then he still makes off a lot of contested catches,
and so I like that about him.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
He reminds me in that way of Demonte Adams. And
you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Hard to compare a rookie player to all Pro caliber
guy like that, but still I do like the way
that this guy goes up in high points football. There
are some drops on tape, but clearly with the Seahawks
signing MVS, they are willing to overlook that at times.
The other one would be Tory Horton from Colorado State,
and he was gonna know a little bit about that storyline.

(12:51):
Possibly with Tory Horton, He's a guy that came off
of an injury, but when he has been healthy, he
has been one of the most dynamic playmakers in all
of college foot ball. Tory Horton was a He's six foot,
three hundred and ninety six pounds four four one in
cleaning it one point five to three ten yards split.
So this guy is lightning it right out of the
out of the you know, off the line of scrimmage.

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And he is a guy that's been again, very productive
throughout his entire career.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, skinny guy. Yeah, but you know, clearly the best receiver. Yeah,
my son started a year throwing to him. In the
ad he had a thousand What did he do in
twenty two? Twenty twenty two, did he have a Yeah?
Probably one thousand yards? Yes? Yeah, was he over a
thousand yards?

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I mean he was very productive, but uh yeah, you know,
just but you know, a great deep threat can really track.
You know, you put him in the category of Romeo Dobbs,
who was a fifth rounder that that went to the
Packers and has played as an outside romeo. Dobbs played
in the same system with uh with with Matt Mummy

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as the offensive coordinator, so and and Jay Norville the
head coach. So I think that there's some similarities. I
think Dobbs was just a little faster.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, all right, let's do this. Take a quick break
because we're three picks away and they're in a break
right now on the selections on TV, So that tells
us we can get a quick little break in a
three minute break. Will come back and we'll have the
Seahawks pick number ninety two overall twenty eighth in this
third round and the final one on day two, barring
a trade, which they've already done today. We'll do that
next nine three point three KDFM.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Welcome to the NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Now I mean to you live from the Virginia Mason
Athletics Center. This is the twenty twenty five NFL Draft
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Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right, here we are back at the Virginia Mason
Athletics Center. Our NFL Draft covers continues here on nine
three point three kd FM, Ian Fornest taking over for
Dave Softy Mark. Should I shout and be really loud
to I mean, what I'm worried about here is that? Yeah,
so i'd be BC. How are we doing over here? Yeah,
we're good. I want to make sure that the entire
front of the room can hear us. I think they
might be feeling like they're missing something if Bob Candota

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and Greg Bell and others up in the front can't
hear us. But no, welcome in here we go. Round
three well underway, still know Shood or Sanders. Seahawks have
one more pick today. It's a twenty eighth pick of
this round ninety two. Overall, we're probably half hour forty
minutes away from that, and then we'll be done with
day two. Hugh Millen, and and away we go. Rob
rang has rejoined us for these two hours. Rob and I,

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by the way, we'll be back with you tomorrow morning
at nine a m. For rounds four through seven. But
Seahawks have been busy. Let's get to them in a second.
Let's just go to the big storyline so far, people
just tuning in here at seven o'clock, driving around town,
Seahawks making their picks. Before I get to that, the
biggest storyline of all is still sitting out here in
the third round, and that shoot Or Sanders, a guy

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that was talked about as being the number one overall
pick a year ago coming into this draft, and one
year later, Hugh he is undrafted.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, the way through the third round. Well, I've got
an entire page of notes. I don't know if you
want me to get into this is these are all
the substantive reasons why he would fall and and maybe
we'll get into that. I know you want an update,
So I'm not gonna go give me the.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Biggest reason why right now, Like like, like if you're
gonna if you're like, just how would you just say?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Tape why? The tape shows him to be very undisciplined
in his footwork and his awareness. Uh uh, Like he's
he's good in the short game, but in the intermediate
game he leaves a lot on the table because he's
not he's not playing in a structure, and he's got

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a horrible sack reel.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And he what you mean by that is every time
he's taking a sack, put on tape and you're like,
what are these all?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, you run the tape and you just okay, you
filtered all sacks. So so now I'm watching forty sacks.
It's exactly forty the offensive life faults and yeah, yeah, right,
and and on many of them. I have sixteen out
of forty where thirty two out of thirty two quarterback

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coaches in the NFL will say that's totally on the quarterback,
and then another six where you'd have it divided. But
there are numerous of these where even I know I
filtered it, I know it's going to be a sack,
and there's so much protection and there's opportunities to do
things at the ball, and I'm like, no way, he's
going to turn this one into a sack, right, I
already know it's going to be a sack, But I'm like,

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how on earth is this gonna happen? Like, how am
I going to get from this beautiful pocket to a sack?
And then yet it happens, and it's and it's numerous,
and so I think that's a big part of it.
You know, his last game, dreadful game against p Y
either down twenty eight to nothing and he's missing like

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why stick? Why stick is a ubiquitous concept that's in
high school college pro Why stick and z snag. It
probably doesn't mean anything, but wystick is a three man
concept where the innermost guy usually the why the tight end,
but it can be a receiver. He's just gonna go
five yards out. Then the middle guy of the trips

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he breaks to the flat, and then the outside guy
runs a vert. It's been around for Lombardy, right, and
it's wide open and his eyes aren't even looking there.
He's looking over to the left when this you know,
it's just like simple execution, and so I think you

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look at it and you go, how much work do
we need to get him to so that he's at
the level to play professional well?

Speaker 3 (18:40):
And then the other reality is is that it's a
position Chavon Revel Junior, By the way, the quarnerback from
easth Carolina just went to the Dallas Cowboys at seventy six.
Rob that was kind of a potential seahawk guy, right, yeah, yeah,
the other potentient that let's get to Rob rang Rob.
The other part of it is the reality of the position.
You're not going to take a quarterback unless you need
a quarterback. It's not it's a position like you can

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never have enough edge rushers, you can never have enough
offensive defensive lineman. You could, but corners and linebackers can
play special teams. You've talked about that with you and
I have talked about that for years. You that, look, hey,
if the guy struggles for a while, take some time
to develop, you can still use him in other spots
off you know some of those athletes. If you already
have a starting quarterback, and maybe you even have a
starting quarterback that's like a young guy like a lot

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of these teams do after six out the first round
last year, and maybe even feel okay with your backup.
That starts to limit and compress a little bit. Who
you're gonna if you're gonna take a guy, especially with
all the red flags. You just talked about it.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
He agreed, But then you say need, Well, that's not binary,
you know, like either need it or you don't. I
think I think that's kind of multiple shades of gray.
So the most needy coming into the draft, we're thought
to be Pittsburgh, Cleveland, New Orleans, right, But do the
Raiders need one, and they don't need How about the Jets,

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you know, are the just just assuming that Justin Fields
is gonna be right? Like, so there's then there's kind
of some well kind of need right but but but
not I mean the Bears and the Commanders don't need one,
but a lot of teams are you know, there's teams
like maybe they would would take one.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Let me come back to New Orleans in a second.
So I heard you say something a couple of weeks ago.
I want to I want to have you repeat that
a second. Rob, Where's where should you are going to go?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
I still think there's a good chance that he goes
to Pittsburgh Steelers. Here another couple of picks. I think
that Mike Tomlin would be kind of the perfect coach
uh for shud Doer centers because he's not gonna take crap,
you know. And and the idea of uh de k
Metcalf and George Pickens with Shuder centers. I think it's
kind of comical, you know. But at the same time,
I do think that it's intriguing, and I wanted to

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kind of whether Sanders winds up going here to Pittsburgh
or if he winds up going all the way out
of the draft and goes undrafted. To me, there's an
element here that reminds me a little bit of Tim
Tebow and even I'll say Michael Sam years ago, and
that there's so much hype now about this player. I
think they're there's just a limited number of teams. They're

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just willing to put up with all the side show
like there's just there as husting that there's just there's
not the upside to warrant all of the distraction that
Shadur Sanders is now going to bring.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
And I thought it was gonna be bad, it is
just become.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Could I could make an argument entirely only on Shador
and completely separate and ignoring Dion, But I do think
and and there's no way I can prove it. I
don't know what's in the minds of people, but my
gut tells me that there's a Dion component to this

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that teams just don't want to deal with. How could
Dion's presence manifest?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well, let me let me stop you there and let
me ask you then, because I think because New Orleans
seems to be with the yes, the questions about cars, health,
the shoulder and everything else. A guy from down that area.
I mean, that's there's a lot that would just seem
to connect the dot that that would be a fit.
You brought this up, I think with Softy a couple
of weeks ago. If I'm not mistaken on his show
to do the Saints to the Saints coaching staff, do

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they want that?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well, Kellen Moore, let's just kind of reason this through.
We don't know, but we can make inferences. What kind
of guy was Kellen Moore? He was a heisman a
candidate or you know he went to New York, right
and just a humble guy, right, not prosperbly extremely talented
by NFL's evaluation, but a beautiful college quarterback that was

(22:32):
invited to New York for the Heisman. Okay, humble. Who's
the three quarterbacks he's coached? He coached Dak Prescott. You
can say what you want about Dak Prescott. Is he overpaid?
Is he clutched? Dak Prescott showed me one quote or
one thing that he's ever done as the quarterback of
the Dallas Cowboys that has brought any kind of unwanted, unwarned,

(22:54):
unnecessary attention to the to the Dallas Cowboys, and he's
been the doubt quarterback that the Dallas Cowboys for almost
a decade. Okay, then he goes to the Chargers. Justin
Herbert all vouchs for Justin Herbert. My kid, uh you know,
played on it on his team and was Patrick Herbert's roommate.
Like like, Justin Herbert is one of the all time greatest. Hell,
he won the Heisman, the academic Heisman, biology major pre med,

(23:19):
Like everybody's gonna dude, you don't need to go pre med.
You're gonna make hundreds of millions of dollars. But he's
just like this insanely good human being and extremely humble.
Then he goes to to Philadelphia, he and he, you know,
Hurts is just a hey, no no no frills, just hey,
I'm gonna keep grinding. You're never gonna outwork me, like

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he And so now you say he's gonna go to
New Orleans and Dion Sanders on February seventh stated to
an ESPN panel on TV he said that he would
leave the NFL to coach his kid. And then when
kinda asked about there's some he said, I didn't stutter.

(24:02):
So now if and I'm gonna give you a list
of one and done coaches since uh just in the
last fifteen years. Antonio appears to Rodmeo, Frank w Reich,
Lovey Smith, Nathaniel Hackett, David Cully, Urban Meyer, Freddy Kitchen,
Steve Wilkes, Chip Kelly, Jim tom Sula, Rob Shadzinsky, Mike Malarkey,

(24:24):
Hugh Jackson. Those are all NFL head coaches that were
one and done. So you think, well, Kellen Moore, he'd
be solid. Right, Really, I just read a pretty long list.
So let's let's oppose the Saints go seven and ten?
Uh with with the with Spencer or should santers? But

(24:48):
they lose three of the last four and it's kind
of on the same old Saints. Now, is Deon gonna
make an end run? Oh yeah? And and and say hey,
I can put butts in your seats again, and you know,
and and I can coach to door bet like, why
would he want that tornado in your life?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
It goes back to what Rob said, I mean from
Michael Sampeople remember he was first opening a gay pill.
That player came out, and you know, there's a lot
of thought that there was a pressure on the rams
to draft him along the way, and you know the
end result. The interesting thing about him, Rob helped me
out here. He wasn't a very good player, Like he
put up some numbers in college, right, but like his time, like,

(25:26):
he wasn't fast, he wasn't explosive. Frankly, he should have
been an undrafted free agent getting a tryout.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, I think that's very well said, because he was
productive in Missouri, you know, obviously SEC competition, very top
level competition. But at the same time, he wasn't the
guy that was just a dynamic athlete or anything. And
so again there there were some teams that, uh, you know,
just didn't view him as good enough to justify all

(25:54):
of the you know, the you know, all the attention
that he would bring to differ.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
And there's different things here, I mean we're talking about too,
but but the common denominator here, right is the fact
that you know, distractions and issues, and you've said NFL
teams don't want that. You better be really good, like
like you know the green kid that got drafted, Like,
you better be that guy. Like if we're gonna flush
out whatever the issues are, whether they're legal, whether they're domestic,

(26:20):
whether they're substance abuse, whether it's you know, your sexual orientation,
whether it's you know, an ego, bad attitude, all those things.
They'll flush things out, they'll be okay, but you better
be there's gotta be like some sort of curve here, right.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
And and to really illustrate that point, let's just lock
into the most obvious in the history of the NFL,
John Elway, who mel Kiper said a week ago, he goes, uh,
he was talking about other proccately as well, He's not
the number one all time Number one will always be
John Elway. Right, This is mel Kiper talking right. So
John Elway had so much juice in a draft that

(26:56):
had Dan Marino and Jim Kelly future Hall of famers.
Erna Corsey, the general manager of the Colts, Marvin Denmoff
who was my agent as well. Marvin Demoff, John al
was agent. They told him over and over again, do
not draft John Elway. He will not play for you.
And Ernie Corsi is sitting there just going He's been

(27:20):
told over and over again don't draft him. But he
what does he do? He said, he drafts him because
he says, I'm not passing on that kind of talent.
So that's an extreme if John Alway can say and
then you say, well, he's not the only guy, right
because Eli Eli Manning, he kind of pulled this the

(27:41):
same stuff. Hey, he had the juice. You better know
where you are. When I was playing for the Cowboys,
Jimmy Johnson would stand in front of the team and
he would say, look, there's a scale here. You know
what you contribute to the team, and how you what
you do you know in the in the lock in
the locker room, in the in the weight room, your attitude,

(28:03):
how you approach things. We'll we'll forgive more things. But
he I remember him saying this. He goes, I'm not
gonna you know, the backup left guard is not on
the same scale as Troy Aikman. He says it right
for the team. And I remember thinking, who's the backup
left guard? Like, how do you feel right now? But

(28:24):
but but he's what he said, he said what everybody knows. Anyways,
he goes, I'm I am very consistent. I treat everybody differently, okay,
and and and it's and you just see and he's gesturing.
I'm here gesturing with my hands like like in a
in a balance type thing. And and so yeah, the

(28:45):
more the more juice you have, the more you can create, uh,
these type of situations for yourself. But what what when
Dion said a couple of months a couple of months ago, Yeah,
there's teams that I won't let my kid play for
Google it. If you don't believe me, just put those
words in a Google search. He and I'm like, oh

(29:06):
my god, he actually said that. Ye, like his kid
is freaking.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
John Al all right, so let's get let's get this.
So we're Dylan Fairchild's guard from Georgia. Just went to Cincinnati.
H Pittsburgh is on the clock. The Titans are going
to make their selection. Their pick is in, but those
Steelers are on the clock. That could be where she
do or goes.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
That's that would be the most If he's going to
go today, that would be the most likely. A couple
of things.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Rob jaylen Nowell, wide receiver Iowa State went to Houston.
Another potential Seahawk guy off the board.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
He was actually one of the receivers that was kind
of highlighting here. Now he is not half the height
that we have been kind of clamoring for here. As
a dk Metcalf replacement, but he did have absolutely electric
straight line speed agility. He's got the you know, just
kind of the background that I know that the Seahawks
have always prioritized. They want tough guys, they want mentally

(29:52):
tough guys, not just physically tough guys, and Noel has
had that kind of a background to him, also has
some return in a building. I think that's something that
the Seahawks are usually looking forward that we have.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
We've talked about that at all, Like we've talked about
that at all, but that is that is something they
are definitely they're definitely looking at return wise. Jordan Birch,
Edge of Oregon went to Arizona. We talked about him,
you and I did on one of our Friday shows.
Thoughts on him, Yeah, Jordan Burch is an interesting guy.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
I mean, he is one of those players that you know,
looks like Superman, plays like Clark Kent sometimes, you know,
and that he is a guy that just is physically
as strapped up as you as it gets.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I was fortunate enough to.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Go to the University of Oregon Pro Day, and you know,
again when you're watching him work out alongside the first
round selection. Derek Carmon, You're you're just looking at Birch, like,
my goodness, why isn't this guy gonna go in the
first round. Well, it's because, again, he doesn't locate the
football as well as he'd like. He's he's a guy
that you know, just needs to kind of put it

(30:50):
all together. There were flashes this past season that it
makes you think that, Okay, maybe he is starting to
get it, but he has uh, you know, struggled to
really you know, enjoyed the type of success that you
would think that he should be able to have given
his physical traits, because he's he's long, he's strong, he's athletic.

(31:10):
You know, he has everything that you're looking for. And
that's really what this draft is kind of. You know,
we're getting into those stages here where you're looking for
players to have traits that you can develop.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
All Right, we'll tell you the Tennessee Titans are in
a break right now, so we'll find out who their
pick is in just a couple of seconds as well,
and then Pittsburgh on the clock to Seattle, nine picks
away from their final pick today. If you're just joining us,
let's just kind of recap what has taken place for
the Seahawks. They started the day with four picks in
rounds two and three combined. After taking Gray's abel from
North Dakota State yesterday, the guard with the eighteenth pick overall.

(31:42):
With their second round pick third overall. In the second round,
they traded up with the Tennessee Titans Nick Ammon Warney Worry.
Who is a safety? Who is Kyle Hamilton, Cam Chancellor
Clonish right? How would you describe him from?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, well, I think that those are the names that
you're you're gonna be hearing about. An awful lot six
foot three, two hundred and twenty pounds who he has
that type of frame, that's that's similar to a Cam Chancellor.
He uh, you know, definitely you was used in multiple
different ways, but primarily coming down playing near the box.
He can be physical, he is. There are some some

(32:18):
mis tackles on tape. I think that he got just
reamed for it on social media and things like that.
I mean, when you're as tall as he is, then
there's going to be some occasionally you're going to kind
of lunge at a player and you know, and have
some mis tackles on tape, but he is explosive, he's
got long arms.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
I mean, he was.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Probably the the workout specimen of this year's combine. Uh
he as a true freshman, he gets basically pushed onto
the field because an upperclassman got hurt. He winds up
being there their defensive player of the year that season
as a true freshman, and then the next couple of
seasons at South Carolina, UH wound up being first team

(32:56):
All SEC. Has a couple of different pick sixes on
his career. I just think that this is the you know,
it's kind of John Schneider. Referring back to John Schneider,
I think that very first selection of grey Zabel were
kind of using this analogy. It's almost like he was
forced to kind of eat his vegetables in the first
round with grey Zabel, and like a pick you had
to make.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
This was the splashy pick.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
This was the pick that is a weapon on defense
that I think not only checks the box for John Schneider,
it very much checks the box for Mike McDonald, who
likes using three safeties. And as you mentioned Kyle Hamilton
and Baltimore, there's ball skills, there's traits here with em
and worry that are intriguing.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
That and Hugh, I'm going to come back to that
in a second with you. In terms of those three
safeties that looked at that, Mike McDonald wanted to do
might want as well. Kevin Winston Junior from Penn State
of Safety just taken by Tennessee. That means Pittsburgh is
on the clock. Andrews, you can go ahead make sure
we are ready to take that or roll on that
in case it is the drama. Does en Elijah Arroyo
tight end out of the University of Miami with the

(33:56):
next pick fiftieth over all the second round?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Robert, Well, yeah, I heard Hugh.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Uh you know he was not doesn't talk quite as
loud as uh as one Dave Softy Maller, but still
he does. Uh yeah, but James, what Once Elijah Royal
was selected, I wanted to turn around and see if
he was doing the DK metcaltains in the back because
I knew he was gonna be excited about a guy
that has this type of just.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Fluidity and ball skills for for a tight end.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I mean, this is this guy who's six' five and
two hundred and fifty five pounds and and yet just
moves with such grace for a big man that the
CONCERN i, Had the reason WHY i was surprised by
the selection is again with em and worry and with,
uh you Know Gray's. Abel you're talking about two players
who were incredibly. Durable and that's the knock On Elijah

(34:42):
royo is he basically missed two years due to a
cl tear and then was unable to work out the
combine or it is, protest.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Let me get let me cut you off just for a.
Second let's go to the. Podium The steelers selection is
this where should do her? Standards finally, goes.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Thank you very.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Much what's the eighty third pick in the twenty twenty
FIVE Nfl. Draft The Pittsburgh steelers looking to be dominant once,
Again so Let Caleb johnson running?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Back are a lot.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
So not Exactly Shad Or. Sanders caleb is a terrific football, player,
THOUGH i mean he is a guy, that you, know
had he ran a little bit, BETTER i think that
he would have, been, uh you, know a second round
section rather than the third round.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Pick he is a.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Guy we talked so much about what The seahawks like
to do as far as that wide zone and things like.
That WHEN i think a wide zoning back to the
old Old Denver broncos and the way that The Terrell
davis Or mike andersoner Or Landis, gary these backs that
would you, know kind of creep out to the latterly
and then explode back against the grain because they had
cut back ability and they had better bursts initially than

(36:15):
they have actual straight line. Speed that to me is
Is Caleb, johnson and you know he looks good in
black and yellow playing For, iowa and he looked good
at The Pittsburgh steelers as well that needed it back
after Losing Naj harrison free.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Agents, okay so let's do. This let's take a break real.
Quick in that, way we can be here when The
seahawks make their. Pick we're probably ten fifteen minutes away
from that or, so depending and then we'll also talk
About sanders and What seattle's looking to do here when
they make their next. Pick Our draft covers continues fly
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Speaker 3 (37:08):
Lot just recap what. HAPPENED i guess The rams need
more pass. Rushers Joseiah stewart just went From. Michigan rob
thoughts on him going to The.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Rams, yeah he's a kind of a sought off pass
rusher that you, know he reminds me a little bit
actually A Jared, verse who of, course, yeah that's, great
but he's A he's just he's a, physical violent kind
of a football. Player he just doesn't have the elite.
Traits he's not as big As Jared verse. Was but
at the same, time he is a good player that

(37:37):
there's a lot of a very good players still.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Available in, Fact.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
I'm just Gonna i'll throw out three names.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Here we talked About Tory, horton the wide receiver For Colorado,
State Elkiu, Manor i'll mention those guys, Already Joshua. Farmer
we're gonna go back to the defensive line for a,
moment WHICH i still think is one of the strengths
of what's. Left Joshua farmer From Florida state is a
player That i'm very high. On Ty robinson From nebraska
is a Player i'm very high. On and then if

(38:05):
we were gonna go edge, RUSHERS i THINK i mentioned
that the two guys FROM lsu Saveon, jones and saving
On jones, ESPECIALLY i think it would be another guy
that makes an awful lot of sense if The seahawks
wanted to go in that.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Direction The ravens just Took Emery, jones junior guard FROM.
Lsu that was also a guy that had been linked
a little bit To, seattle another interior offensive. Lineman so
he just went to The Baltimore. Ravens seattle is up
on the, clock their pick is, In so we'll get to. That,
anders you yell at me when we can go to the,
podium and we'll get to The seahawks pick at number

(38:39):
ninety two overall twenty eighth in the first, round and, this,
again barring a trade back up into the third, round
would be the final pick of the day for The
seahawks in this particular. Round and we'll probably hear from
that pick in a little, bit and then we kind
of start looking ahead to day three as well and
looking back at what they've done defensive. Line here are
you good on defensive linemen as well For?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Seattle, WELL i think that that's the one position if
you want to have the most, DEPTH i would say
defensive line for a simple. Reason big guys get more
tired than small, guys and defensive guys get more tired
than offensive. Guys because if you're an offensive, lineman you
make your, block you're. Engaging you're in a wrestling match

(39:22):
for about two and a half, seconds and then you
know you can't block, forever and so now you. Disengage
the defensive line disengages at that. Point his. Job he
has to sprint full speed to the, football even if
it's on the opposite hash an offensive. Lineman let's be.
Honest there are some offensive linemen kind of run after

(39:44):
the play and they do, Great but many offensive linemen
just kind of jog to the, play so they just
don't have to work as long in the play as
a defensive. Player.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Uh the pick is. In we're watching The. Uh i'm
not sure About Green, bay by the, way for a host.
City it was pouring down rain, earlier but where outdoor
draft seems a little odd in The midwest this time
of the, Year, andrews we ready to go to the.
Podium i'm not sure who's popping up. There if who's
coming up there's let's go to the podium right. Now
this will be the seahawks final pick of the. Day

(40:15):
is That Shohn alexander?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Again yes it. Is this is so.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
Good this is a family car right. Here with the
ninety second pick of the twenty twenty FIVE Nfl, draft
The Seattle seahawks has selected my, nephew Quarterback Alabama jalen Mill.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Roads, Okay Hugh hawks go, Wow, well it's gonna be
good for sports radio for a. While Jalen millroe, classy high,
potential very extremely high ceiling, quarterback electric in his running

(41:02):
ability as an. Athlete in another generation he would have
been a wide receiver and edge. Rusher you, know you,
KNOW i don't. Know i'll pull up the specs on,
him But i'm sure this forty times is. Ridiculous and
here here's the thing about. Here when you watch his
tape a, Quarterback, god when you watch his tape as

(41:28):
a as a, Quarterback i'll take The auburn. Game, okay
so he's on the right, hash there's a there's a
two by two on his left or to his, left
and he and as a scissors combination the inside got
a deep corner far hash and he just throws this.
Thing it is so gorgeous and it's right in the,

(41:49):
money caught for like a thirty five yard. Game.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Beautiful, right was this the fourth down play two years?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Ago? No, no this was in the first. Half, okay,
okay he before, that he had there was a double
post concept where he cranks up and uh and and
it hits the outside, post hits. Walks the guy just
walks it to him on the deep you, know sixty
yards in the, air walks to. Him the guy kind
of drops. It the, defender you, know was maybe pulled

(42:16):
on the arm a, little but. Beautiful then he comes
back on a Little texas. ROUTE A texas rout is
a running back just going four yards and then just
breaking in right, over you, know like like when you're a,
kid just just throw throw the, waste you, know you,
know throw the garbage in the, waistbox and he sky
mails are running. Back the guy can't even catch, It

(42:37):
like like if if if you had to find another
quarterback in the draft that could miss a play that,
bad you might be you might be looking for. Months
and and then he throws a seam route and it's
like he's. Come it gets, intercepted and it's like he
completely forgets that there's defenders on the, Field like he's
throwing routes on. Air he doesn't process and even and then,

(43:00):
okay then you go to the bowl. Game he throws
a wheel route down but, uh you, know getting hit
in the, face like get whacked in the. Pocket throws
this beautiful anticipatory wheel route up the sideline to get
down the red. Zone you, go oh my, god that's
Like Aaron. Rodgers and then the next play he throws
a fade route on they put the formation in the.

(43:21):
Left he throws a fade route to the. Right he
under throws it by six feet and like it's like,
DUDE jv high school quarterbacks don't throw. It and then
they get to the third, down final. One i'll, say
there's there's trips on the on the. Left a very
common red zone. Concept some people call It china the
one and, two the outside guy in the middle. Guy
they run these little fit they run these Little china

(43:42):
routes five yards and in and then the corner route
is from the number. Three you're on the, right Hash
you've got all this. Grass he goes. Back it's a.
Touchdown it's like, easy like like, okay the next play's
got to be a pat but he processes it, late
processes it. Late throws an act carer. Pass but he
throws it so late that even though the receiver was

(44:03):
WHAT i, say the number three receiver counting outside and
he's way close to the, ball he's got all this
grass out to the left and he just skymails. It
so what AM? I what's what's the point in all?
This when he's, good he's, like oh my, god. Good
and when he's, bad you're like a you Know Romeo,
fox you Know Kee, low you Know. Michael you know

(44:25):
What i'm talking. About i'm going military like like and.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
So it's yes or, no it's yes or. No say
no what like Exasperated, no it's, yes, yes yes or
no no yeah, yeah, yeah, yes there's no it's either
A swiss or an.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Airball, Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
I'm just, again if you're just tuning in right, now
we're all kind of exasperated here Jaymon. Milroe seahawks have
selected him in the third, round ninety second pick.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Overall rob go.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
AHEAD i think he's the ultimate lottery ticket in this.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
DRAFT i think that this is a guy that you,
Know i've been kind of you, know pounding the table.
Here get a wide receiver with some, speed uh if
you don't have if rather than, quarterback, yeah, exactly, well
and SOMETHING i necessarily and am uh you, know projecting
him to switch to wide. RECEIVER i think that there
there is arm talent. There the comparison That i've used

(45:16):
over and over again With Jalen monroe is To Michael,
vick and now There's Michael vick was of course the
number one overall. Selection Michael vick obviously also had some
off field issues that very much tainted HIS nfl.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Legacy this guy is the exact opposite of. That he's
a team.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Captain he is very, articulate As i'm sure will be
hearing here just a couple of moments. There there's no
question about his, intelligence about his, work, ethic all the
things that he was talking about before that.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Is just critical at the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Position those things are, undeniable as is this kid's just
absolute juice as a runner four point four to six
in the forty yard.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Dash he plays to that. Speed.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Uh he is just an absolute dynamite.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Talent, okay let me ask you, guys This hugh Is
rob's describing. That is there A Taysom hill element?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Here? Uh, yeah, yeah there?

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Is can we go down The Taysom hill road a
little bit with this guy? AGAIN i, think because let's
take a step, back let's remember what The seahawks, Say
Sam donalds your starting. QUARTERBACK i don't think there's any
question about that going into the. Season Sam donalds are starting.
Quarterback they go, out by the, way condolences To Sam.
Howett was nice to know. You uh but but you're
starting quarterback A sam Donald they went out and they
re Signed Drew lock to bring him in as your.

(46:29):
Backup there's no doubt he's your. Backup he's your insurance.
Policy the this this building Likes Drew lock and he's your.
Backup now you have a third round, pick who's your third.
Quarterback this will be the first time that they have
kept three quarterbacks on the roster for more than a,
week right Since John schneider got. Here so he's here
do you do you the question is is he going

(46:51):
to be used in other? Ways why they develop him
as a.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
QUARTERBACK i would think, yes. Absolutely it's Like Tim tebow
when he was a. Freshman he is two dynamic of
an athlete. Today, YEAH i mean the you, know the
forty seventh. GUY i, mean we went decades and had
three quarterbacks all the. Time you can have a third.

(47:17):
QUARTERBACK i could make an argument it should be mandated
just for health purposes and. Development And Michael, WELL i, like, literally,
like you don't get the. Choice you have to. Dress
then when brock perty tore up his, elbow but they
only had two guys, dressing and then they were going
to put him back. In what if that was a,
Concussion you're going to put him back, in like dress three. Guys,
so but that's that's not really the point we're talking.

(47:39):
ABOUT i believe That milrow will will have a package
like you, Said Taysom hill down in the goal, line
and he'll just come in and he's such a dynamic
threat because he's not you, Know Michael vick was, fast
but this dude is big and fast and strong and,

(48:00):
fast and so he can be a little bit of.
A i would Say Blen Taysom hill's strength With Michael
vick speed and, YEAH i mean he's in the running
for you, know well like An Anthony richardson like the
in the running for the best. CORE i think right

(48:21):
now you, say, okay who's the most feared runner at
the quarterback, POSITION i think It's Lamar. JACKSON i don't
Think Josh allen would be far, behind not Because Josh
allen's is fast of those, guys But Josh allen is
in actual Buffalo's he's, like you, know six, five two.
Fifties he's a. Buffalo and so the combination of his,
speed which is pretty good four seven five is but

(48:43):
the strength and he's got good running, Instincts Like Josh
allen's a load as a, runner Not Lamar jackson. Load
so in my, mind when we talk about running, quarterbacks
they're kind of in different. Categories and Like Jaydon daniels
is in The Lamar jackson, category, right and he's in
the discussion for the best running. Quarterback but this, Kid

(49:05):
Jaylen milroy is in The Anthony richardson running, category like
not just, fast but, strong like he can finish the,
run you can run quarterback power in THE a gap
or THE b gap and go right through the, domain
right through the hashmarks in the domain where You're. Mike
linebacker might slip a block and, boom and you can
take on a block from a. Linebacker that's a big.

(49:27):
Difference like you didn't Run Russell wilson even in his.
Prime you didn't run him in between the. Hashes you
ran him on red zone where he's gonna keep it
in the alley outside the. Tackle that's a different place
on the. Field this Kid milroe can run anywhere on the.
Field he can run in the app he can run
wide quarterback sweepsle, go, go go back and look at

(49:48):
The georgia. Game he's running quarterback suiteps where he just
touched the ball as soon as he catches, it and
they got all these it looks like The lombardi, sweep
like a buck sweep in the for for.

Speaker 9 (49:58):
Uh, Yes Dylan gabriel just went ahead Of Store sanders
to The Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Browns Dylan, gabriel number thirty in the round ninety four
to The Cleveland. Browns Dylan gabriel with that little noodle
arm of his the ahead Of Shador. Sanders huh how about. That,
actually like there's there's SOMETHING i, mean because here's the.
Thing two teams just had a chance to take.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Quarterback this is, yeah it feels and and AND i
don't believe in conspiracies on the on the list of
of of of on a linear list of. Conspiracies i'm
like almost at the end of not believing. Conspiracy i'm,
Like i'll believe, it but you got to present me,
evidence AND i can't Prove i'm.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Preventing i'm presenting evidence right, now, right there's evidence right.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Here but think of this like this almost you know
what this feels is like this feels like A kaepernick style,
blackball you know WHAT i, Mean like like this dude
has brought so much you, know garbage and unwanted fanfare
to the quarterback position of the national Football this is
the this is the you, know the position Of Roger.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Staubach well you, know but but but, also okay that,
aside Like Dylan, Gabriel i'd have a harder time making the.
ARGUMENT i, mean he accurate pastor has been in college
For i'm talking about NO i, know but here's my. Point, like,
So Dylan, Gabriel i'd have a harder time making this
argument For but but With Jalen, milroe you just went
through seven minutes of why you would Take Jalen, Milroe,
like you, know in terms of Over. Sanders here's the.

(51:26):
Thing Liked, Sanders like there's there's an upside right rob
for For Jalen. Milroll as he was describing, That i'm
getting excited thinking to.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
MYSELF i said last, NIGHT i wouldn't Draft sanders in
the seventh round BECAUSE i don't want them in the.
BUILDING i don't want. THAT i don't want. THAT i
don't want that. PERSONALITY i get, THAT i don't want
the uh that that looking over the. SHOULDER i want
to and and AND i readily can CAN i close
my eye lids and on the back of my, lids
CAN i see a movie Where Shad sanders becomes some

(51:57):
kind of you, know brock pretty is success, story you,
know like like limited skills. Set but but, yeah, YEAH
i could see.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
That, WELL i can see that With Dylan. Gabriel but
Absolutely Dylan.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Gabriel BUT i but if IF i was a decision
maker on AN nfl, Team i'm sleeping just. Fine if
he goes to somebody else and he drops the house
on everybody because you know what it's, like it's just
like a, stock, Right it's like a penny. Stock it's, like,
yeah it might, hit but you, know like it's it's
not worth it to.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Me, No and that's and that's my. Point we're on
the same, page trust, me we're on the same. Page
my thing is This it like we talked with When rob,
mentioned you know The Michael sam or is The green,
right the kid the defensive.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Lineman, Yeah Mike.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Green guys like that, that like there's there might be something,
there like they're more So Green sam's probably not a good,
example but there might be something. There Dylan gabriel could
Be Brock. Purty, Great Dylan gabriel could Be Brock purtty.
Yea and and you Know Jalen milroe could have an
upside that is through the.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Road jalen hurts he gets a. Bump this league is
a copycat. League and and and the even right up
To Josh wet you know arm, length then On Joe
tooney in The Super. Bowl you, know edge guys with
length and and and and then we're talking about arm
length again because we saw that like like it's a

(53:17):
very Temporal league when it talks talk about, trends and
so you Know Saquon, barkley you, know he's he's the best.
Thing they happened to ask On genty to be the sixth,
pick was Watching Saquon. Barkley you, know black have very similar. Profiles,
Uh Saquon barkley and gent like so, yeah it's, Uh

(53:37):
Jalen milroe can Thank Jalen hurts Because Jalen hurts was
a second round, pick a developmental guy thought to be
uh just you, know not really an accurate, passer not
really a great, processor but an admitted really elite. Athlete,
Now Jalen hurts is not as fast As Jalen, milroe
but he's probably stronger because he squatched six hundred, pounds

(54:01):
but but comparable in terms of, like, hey a legit running.
Threat and and yet you know The, eagles you know
that now they who who god, dang who did they
have before when they drafted Folk Folk Carson. Wentz wentz
might have Been. Wentz, yeah check that who's the? Quarterback
when They?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
WENTZ i feel, like what what doesn't even? Matter but
but they had a guy like.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
That they brought him in as kind of. A it
was kind of a quasi ideal, developmental like like we've got.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
To start arounds borderline.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Developmental, yeah, yeah, yeah second round is, like.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Well, savior wats by the way that the safety from
uh just went.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
To uh second or second round? Quarterback oh my, God
i'm Gonna i'm gonna actually say. This, Yep i'm gonna say.
It second round quarterback is between the first round quarterback
and the third round. Quarterback oh, thanks, Tips, okay what now?
Me now let me eight.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
O'clock you can't get that inside anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Hours, Okay, now let me. Explain third round quarterback is
a developmental. Guy. Yeah first round quarterback is play play, now,
Guy play, now. Guy second round, quarterback it's got a
little bit of, both, Right who the heck was The
eagles quarterback when they looked that. Up the last starting
quarterback Before Jalen hurts Was carson went all, right so
wentz but he was declining right and and, uh he's

(55:26):
a ginger, too so they had to get rid of.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Him all, Right so let's let's do. This we're gonna
keep it right. Here it's just have past eight o'clock
On Sports radio ninety three point THREE KJR fm And. Seattle,
uh you're listening to our draft coverage as a punch
drunk sober as we are as we're getting here at this,
point he's been on the air since three, o'clock so
he's working on five. Hours rob AND I aron before.
That today we're gonna be on tomorrow with you as.

(55:48):
Well at nine in the. Morning we're waiting For Jaln
milrow to call in in a second To. Houston texans
are on the. Clock their pick is. In, uh The.
Falcons we mentioned To xavier Watch Jared, wilson a center
From georgia went to The New England. Patriots do we
See houston's got C j? Shrouds will assume no shoot
were standards. There then we go back to back compensatory
picks for The Las Vegas. Raiders, pete you're gonna do?

(56:11):
It are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Us right? There?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Pete is she Do we're gonna go to The? Raiders
Is pete gonna do?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
It Does? PETE i don't know If pete want to get.
It you got you got The Tom Brady uh component
to that?

Speaker 10 (56:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (56:22):
RIGHT i heard on an authority THAT i would trust
that in the coach search. Process there was four people
in the, Room Pete. Carroll then there's two minority owners
that are like tech. GUYS i don't know their names tech,

(56:45):
okay tech that minority, owners those three And Tom. Brady
and when head coaches came in, there Tom brady ran
the whole freaking meeting and the other ones just sit,
back sat back and. Listen So Tom, brady he's got his, footprint, well.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
And you've got a first TIME. Gm they're working With pete.
Two so, yeah and you, know we Know. Pete he
thinks he can make anything work and everything. Good so
maybe The sanders thing doesn't scare. Him we'll see if
he wants to bring that. In i'd love to see
the reaction That Geno smith will tweet something later if that,
happens which will be highly, entertaining and we'll watch that FROM.
Afar all, Right so we're looking ahead to tomorrow right,
now and we wait For Jim Jay Len miller to come.

(57:21):
In so while we, wait AND i think he's gonna
call any, Second So i'm not going to break. Here
we're not gonna break. Here we're gonna wait because it's
going to be a fun what like we're standing by
for that ring ring, ring and we'll wait.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
For that in a.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Second The seahawks have addressed the offensive, line tight, end,
Secondary and NOW i don't know how rob you would
is this developmental? Quarterback is it a? Hybrid is a?
Weapon how would you? Describe what you? Think and we'll
see what they. Say, Yeah and he's gonna be asked
and you'll be up. There he's going to be asked about.

(57:53):
Positions AND i don't think i've ever heard a guy
that played quarterback in college ever love to hear the
fact that he might not play quarterback at the next. Level,
Right but if it's going to get you on the
field earlier, ON i would think you'd want.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
TO i don't think. THAT i don't think that's in play. Yet,
NO i don't think him as a non quarterback is in.
PLAY i think that what's in play he's a Developed
here's how i'd answer your. Question he's a developmental quarterback
that has a a a skill set that allows you
to play on the varsity in your first.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Year and that's What And i'm not saying that you're
taking he's not gonna be a. Quarterback i'm saying to
get him on the field hybrid. Style i'm, SORRY i.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Misunderstood, yeah so let's have him in short yards packages
or or so they draft the line. Package they drafted a.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Weapon yeah, right they drafted a.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Weapon WELL i WOULD i. WOULD i would hope that
they would say he's a developmental quarterback first that, oh
by the, way helps the football team in these little
specialized varsity.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Analogy AND i would just, say let's let's just go
back to one. YEAR i know it's a new offensive,
coordinator new offensive, staff AND i knew new. Quarterback was
this team not just abysmo last year in the red?

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Zone? Yeah, yeah, yeah this is a guy that could help. You,
yeah but he's he's not going to be expected on
third and and and seven from you, know the the
sixteen to go in there and process and pick up
the first. Down, no, no, no but but but it but
he might be you, know might be third and two

(59:24):
at the at the plus. NINE i think it's just
a lot because because he's and then and then you
just kind of you kind of just close your eyes
and pray that that one of those unexplainable. Whiffs you,
know it would be like a basketball, player you, know
going up for A, layan AN nba, player and they

(59:44):
just miss A, layan you, know like those happened with, Him,
yeah with more frequency than you. Should but then he's
splashing deep threes with guys in his, face like his
his high is really, cool it.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Is and then that's WHAT i kind of keep coming back,
to is like, again it's just just this idea that
that he has a. Weapon and he actually was asked,
about you, know the idea of possibly switching positions back
at the, combine AND i just love his quote. Here he,
says you don't ask a zebra to be a, Dog
AND i just think that that is exactly the mindset
that most quarterbacks are going to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Have he was.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
RIGHT i, mean you, know just the highs are so,
high the lows are so. LOW i, mean it does
look like even a starting college quarterback with some of
the misses that this guy has on. Tape but at
the same, time his straight line, speed the, velocity you,
know and the work. ETHIC i think that's one of
the THINGS i really want to stress here is that
this is a young man who has demonstrated the work

(01:00:39):
ethic necessary to develop the finer components of playing quarterback
at the highest.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Level, yeah and you, KNOW i kind of went basically
to the top of the food chain At bama to
have a long conversation but over the, weekend and it
was mostly about but there's, three you, know candidates coming

(01:01:07):
out Of. Alabama but most of the conversation was With.
Jalen were we're going to go about With.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Jalen we're gonna Get Nick, sheridan who's the quarterbacks coach
offensive Coordinated. Alabama, YEAH i know he's going to be
on after we hear From Jalen milroe when he calls
in in just a couple of. Minutes so so that's
gonna we'll be interesting to have a conversation see what
he has to say as. Well we're waiting for him
to call. In you would think the quarterback would be
little more, Punctual, Hugh like they not know we're, behind
and breaks and everything. Else you, Know andrews is back
there freaking, out losing his mind right. Now we've got

(01:01:35):
stuff going. On by the, way The raiders, Selection, uh
their first of two picks is in our. Phone nounce
them both back to back or.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Not and they have two more.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Picks Caleb rogers guard out Of Texas tech is their first.
One that is a pick number thirty four of the third,
round ninety eight. Overall and by the, way you're, saying
what do you, mean there's only thirty two. Teams we're
in the compensatory pick world right. Now that's why we
kind of are are down this and the next pick
is this is probably the last chance we'll see here we. Go, uh,

(01:02:04):
well they just Announced Caleb rodgers swopt to wait for
a second. Week it's a MAID i don't know if
you guys know. This this is a made FOR tv.
Event it's not a made for kJ r. Event Uh
so it's it's you, know they they're really not really
concerned about what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Here. YEAH i, mean, LOOK i THINK i think both
network's Doing Uh i'm joking about. That but if you
happen to be driving, around we're gonna give you A seattle.
Perspective you, know try and you, know make sure we
hit the all the essentials with the national, stuff but
they're gonna give you A seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Perspective right and, yeah and you as you, mentioned if
he doesn't get picked, here that's Being shade Or. Sanders.
Uh with the Next raiders, pick which is back to
Back Niners, Eagles, vikings and we're done with the first
round or the third. Round, yeah we're. Done so there's
a lot more picks than there used to. Be to your, Point,
yeah with the, compenser that's we're. Losing for free, agents
you get you get compensation at the end and. Stuff
so uh rob, uh just a quick thought generally about

(01:02:58):
What seattle has.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Done you, KNOW i like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
It you, know, obviously you got the, guard you've got a,
safety you've got the you, know the, well the tight,
end now the. QUARTERBACK i mean that's down the middle every,
way and that is WHERE i thought The seattle was.
Lacking uh you know this past, season they just they
got punched in them, mouth both on both sides of the,
BALL i thought too. Often AND i think that this

(01:03:20):
is kind of a you, know it's. Refreshing, HONESTLY i
think it's a little bit Of, Certainly John, SCHEIDER i
think that, he, uh you, know recognized this team needs
to get, bigger more, physical more. EXPLOSIVE i also think
that this is an acknowledgment Of mike McDonald and and you,
know Obviously mike McDonald was at, uh you, Know baltimore
where they Had Lamar jackson that we have seen improvement

(01:03:42):
from quarterbacks as he was talking about. Before with it
was Not Shedeur sanders who was taken by The. Raiders
here they went With william And mary offensive Tackle Charles
grant who's sitting with.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Him so it's a talented.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Player, uh here Comes Jaln. Milroll he's calling in right.
Now so we're going to head up up to the
podium and take a listen to. Jail my name Is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
CHRIS i got the uh with the pr st our
media here where you fire some questions, Off.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
Oh well, cool all, right, graduations?

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Sir can you describe to? Us but the weight was like,
time what would your?

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
Question so Congratulations NOW i was able to hear that.
Today so it's definitely a dream come. True you know
the best thing about, IT i would gather with family
throughout this whole. Process you, know it's definitely a unique
journey for, sure not knowing where you can, go but
it's all about that right. Spot AND i Know i'm
in the right, spot moving forward, spot right. Spot kind

(01:04:41):
of this community people that believe in, me that's all
in on, me AND i felt that from the jump
WHEN i was Visited, SEATTLE uh for my thirty visit
and being around the coaching staff and then it's a great.
Vibe SO i just enjoyed my whole journey WHILE i was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
There what was your takeaway from that? Visit what was
the experience?

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
Like, so first of, All i've never been Into, Seattle.
Washington you, know the previous staff At WASHINGTON uh raved
about the city and you, know talked about, it and
So i've never been to that part of the. World
so my friends visit over there was you, KNOW i
took it all, in uh number, one but also just
uh seeing the, facility seeing who who's all involved with

(01:05:20):
the coaching, staff meeting, everyone and then also just picking
up with you, know who's gonna be coached. BY i,
mean so it was just a great visit.

Speaker 11 (01:05:28):
Overall, Jalen how how does the discussions would the coaching
staff go in regard, to you, know learning about the
offense and where they envision you fitting.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
In, yeah so no matter we're out, Selected i'm gonna
have to learn an.

Speaker 10 (01:05:40):
Offense that's that's.

Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
For any, quarterback no matter who you. Are and SO
i know that going in and also the best you,
know thing for Any rooking quarterback and had a veteran
in the, room and so that's you, know awesome just
to have that going into this courtback room and then
also just knowledge base that's that's behind. It So i'm
just so super excited for just just the New, jarny
a new chapter of my life to be In.

Speaker 12 (01:06:02):
Seattle.

Speaker 13 (01:06:02):
JEALEN i think that the natural, assumption just given your skill,
set given the depth chart, here Given kobeac's history With
Taysom hill has been that you could potentially come in
and fill a role similar to. That what is your,
uh what's your thought on, that what's your willingness to
fill kind of that maybe wildcat type role In seattle at.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Least, Yeah So i'm coming in to, learn, learn, grow
and bring nothing but positive vibes to the, offense you,
know and and fulfilling all that as a necessity with
my role on the. Team so you, know of, course
ONCE i get, THERE i understand my niche for. Sure
but you, KNOW i dearly, No i'm, competing you, know

(01:06:43):
no matter what day it, is no matter how many
REPS i, get competing for an opportunity presentations of at
the correct.

Speaker 14 (01:06:49):
Position, jealin after starting two years In, alabama which areas
of your game do you look at as your greatest
focus to improve here coming To.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
SEATTLE.

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
I THINK i, think of, course you know throughout my
time friend playing football is always room for. Improvement that's
for any. Player and SO i just know that max
in the game of, football playing sound and key to my,
reds that's What i'm my my best and SO i understand,
that AND i know That i'm gonna be in the
best situation with this coaching. Past So i'm super. Decided
what was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Last season like At alabama playing With kaylor De boor
and and you, know taken over for saving and that
change and.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
EVERYTHING i had so much fun last. YEAR i had
no regrets from last. Season AND i was surrounded by
a lot of great coaches that you, know so that
poured everything into our into our. Room and so that's
WHY i have no regrets even this past. Season but
also just just was enjoying the positive with the new.

(01:07:44):
Staff AND i was Coach savings last quarterback and coach
The board first quarterback At. Alabama SO i have a
unique journey as it went to my senior.

Speaker 15 (01:07:51):
YEAR a lot of shotgun in college and some People
actually there's a lot of under centered, practice a little
bit of senior ball like you talk, about and how
much that was part of the transition and learning. Process.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Yeah, SO i mean throughout my whole time playing, Football
i've gone a. Center you, know of course rep wise in.
Games you, know it's limited as it is to playing
in THE nfl and seeing the national. Stage But i've
been under center throught my time, frame and so it
wouldn't be too much of a crutch you, know going into.

(01:08:24):
Looting So i'm just prepared for.

Speaker 13 (01:08:25):
It what was the meeting like with The seahawks when
you came out here for the thirty visit and what
do you feel like they were trying to learn about
you when they were getting to know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
You, yeah so The sea on the best quarterback in
the draft and they emphasized. That and then also with
them getting to know me is you, know spending time with,
me you, know one on one at the facility and
just you, know talking ball as. Well so we just
took it as an opportunity to you, know get to know.

(01:08:54):
Me how have you extended those you? Know what drives
me all the processes when it comes to the purple,
ration all those different. Things you, KNOW i was able
to talk to everyone in the staff about, that about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
That what made you.

Speaker 16 (01:09:06):
Think this was the right, Place, Danilen and what made
you think that they were in on?

Speaker 6 (01:09:09):
You number? One you, know words of, affirmation you. Know number,
two you, know just just the belief system of everyone.
There that's all it. Takes you, know you walk, differently
you played. Differently we have an army behind, you and
that's WHAT i have and So i'm super excited about,
it you, know just just knowing That i'm going into

(01:09:31):
a culture that's wanting to, win that's one to achieve
great things And i'm going to bring that as a
rookie and throughout my whole time being In. Seattle do
you think you're.

Speaker 15 (01:09:41):
The best quarterback in the draft and do you have
any message with the teams.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
That passed on to you?

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
Today that's Ass.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Jalen when you were in the, Pocket, dan you were
asked to go through your. Progressions obviously you have elite running,
skills but how were you coast and how how did
you Process, okay if my first isn't, there how much
were you encouraged to then run as opposed to stay
in the. Pocket, no go to your second or your
third or your, checkdown just kind of talk how you've

(01:10:12):
been coached to use your athleticism within the construct of
a pass.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
Offense so my second packing touchdown Gets West, KENTUCKY i
went through a full progression and we scored a packing.
Touchdown So i've done it, before you, know AND i
don't continue to do. It it's NOTHING i can't do
in the football. Field the THINGS i can prove on,
absolutely but it's not it's NOTHING i can do on
the football. Field i've thrown every type of, touchdown stepping

(01:10:37):
up in the, pocket thrown on the, Run i'm going through.
Progressions i've thrown a checkdown the next. Score i've used my.
Legs so you, know looking at, it you, know picking
too much on the, FIELD i can do. It So
i'm JUST i say that, humblely you, know not you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Know not over.

Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
Arrogant it's just more just knowing WHAT i bring to
the table and knowing THAT i just just a different
dynamic when it comes to being on the stootball field
THAT i Know i'm gonna utilize in that.

Speaker 9 (01:11:03):
Field, galen what did you learn about yourself last year
doing some of the down moments there like the loss
To vanderbilt and coming out of that and those sorts
of circumstances that maybe you guys hadn't had to deal
with in in prior seasons there At.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
Alabama SO i don't think not so many people can say,
this BUT i can say. This you, know PROBABLY i
never lost a game back to back in my entire
life of playing. Football, WELL i mentioned that is because
of course you're gonna have, Failure you're gonna have lessons
dwout your time for playing. Football but it's out of
how you regroup and how you're group from. Adversity and

(01:11:35):
my theme of my whole life is next play, mentality you,
know how you, know not leaning on failures to drive,
me you, Know and that's something that's that's been emphasized
with my whole time for playing, football you, Know and
so you, KNOW i emphasize that when it comes to,
week were playing different. Games one game that doesn't lean

(01:11:56):
doesn't lean on to the next, game and so no
matter to, win right US a. Lawns it's all how
you can regroup and be the best version yourself so
that you can compete at the highest of.

Speaker 10 (01:12:05):
It that's.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Necessary so you can.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Win you are you still In Green?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Bay did you stay there for.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
Today or Now i'm In?

Speaker 10 (01:12:12):
Houston, jayalen you.

Speaker 9 (01:12:14):
You played Against nick him And worrie when he was
In South carolina and now he's your. Teammates what do
you remember about facing him game planning for?

Speaker 11 (01:12:20):
Him?

Speaker 6 (01:12:22):
Yeah so one, Thing he's utilized all over the football,
field and so when you utilize all over the football,
field that means you're special at the player that you.
Are you, know you know that going into the. Week
how good of a player he, is the, five he,
has the range that he plays, with and so it's
gonna be great to be teammates with, him you, know
and just you, know build together as rookies come in

(01:12:44):
and do. It allever In incluse we can have the team.

Speaker 16 (01:12:46):
Out you stayed at the draft In Green bay throughout
the first?

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Round is that?

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
Right that's?

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Right what was that experience? Like when you? Upset were you?
Mad what'd you take of?

Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
That? Look no matter where all, DRAFT i started to
come in and improve myself and earn the trust and respect
the guys in the locker, room and so it wasn't
a necessity to hear my name called early on later,
on it didn't really matter to. Me it was more
to hear my name called BECAUSE i know that team
was all in on me and they saw something to
me the other team. Didn't so it was all about.
Opportunities so it didn't really matter WHEN i was. Selected

(01:13:20):
did you talk.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
To jim hurt or two or? Three lest process get?

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Hurt for?

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
Sure and what was the conversations.

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
About that's more of an, intimate you, know, dialogue but
as that's my, guy you, know he was someone that's
a supportive of mind and so you, know it's just
something unique about The kalings for.

Speaker 9 (01:13:40):
Sure jeln if you were breaking down your own, game
being super critical yourself a positive and, negative what are your,
strengths what are your? Weaknesses and and what do you
what do you uh bring the table?

Speaker 6 (01:13:48):
Here take, links take take, lists, sex play on, time
and be. Me that's that's the area of growth when
it comes to being. ME i Would i'm not one
dimension or at the quarter. Position i'm a pava. Solver i'm
a student of the game and love.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Football good thank, You, jamen thank.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
You all, right there you. Go That's Jalen, Milroe seahawk's
third round. Pick third round is. Over No shad Or sounders.
Drafted But Jaylen milro is coming to Say i'll take
a quick. Break we'll hear from his quarterback coach At,
alabama Former husky assistant coach coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
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point three kJ R.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Fm all, right welcome back to The Virginia Mason Athletic.
Center they got the backdrop ups or waiting to hear
From mike McDonald And John schneider any second. Now we'll
head back up to the podium in a moment for.
That in the, meantime we just heard From Jalen. Milroll
you were up, There hugh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Impressions, WELL i think that he's a mature guy who's
gone through a lot of. ADVERSITY i think it's hard
to be The alabama quarterback the same way it's hard
to be The alabama head. Coach When Nick saban left
and there's very very high, expectations exceedingly high, expectations and

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he's he's had. Struggles you, know he got benched in
twenty twenty, three came Back Finnis, strong did some good,
things and then came back here with a coaching. Change
SO i think that he's had to handle a lot
of adversity in a crucible like, real real hot, fire

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like most colleges don't present, Right and SO i think
he passed more than he failed in that. Regard BUT
i think he is a. SO I i like the.
Character and it's not just listening to him for a
couple of minutes, here it's you, know talking to people

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down In. Bama, so SO i think we're getting a
guy who's going to be. MOTIVATED i think he is
a team moreing a. Guy AND i don't think he's
a flash in his. PERSONALITY i think he's a substance.
Guy in his. Personality he's an electric athlete WHO i
think has some very fundamental flaws in his passing. Motion

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there the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Past, yeah don't go don't go too deep into for.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Me, okay it's a kinetic chain from the ground up
that all has to come exactly in the sequence and
the time from your right foot all the way, through
how your coringe how you twist right down to the
last flick of your index, finger and and he he
becomes disconnected for his, body his arm becomes disconnected in

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the throwing motion from so and most, quarterbacks when they're,
inaccurate it's because they don't hit the right spot because
they're trying to hit a moving. Target one out of
twenty inaccurate, quarterbacks in my, opinion by the time you
get to this, level one out of, twenty it's actually mechanical.
Flaws he's the one out of. Twenty can you fix?
That mechanical? Can BUT i think that's WHY i say

(01:17:08):
he's a developmental quarterback who's a lottery. Ticket and you
get a lottery, ticket you, go why AM i using that?
Analogy because if you hit the lottery it's really freaking. Big,
like if he can if he can learn to get
connected mechanically in his throwing and he can learn to process,
consistently you, know it's essentially you, know a blue sky

(01:17:32):
scenario is These jalen herds and he's a Faster jalen.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Herds rob, Thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Yeah i'm gonna jump in and just trying to be
real quick because we are Expecting John shire AND i
Can donald to show up any. MOMENT i was really
excited when The seahawks moved on From Geno smith BECAUSE
i thought that their future basically was. CAPPED i was
really excited to Get Sam darnold here BECAUSE i think
that he presents a different level of. EXPECTATION i think

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there's a higher ceiling with. Him there is only one
quarterback in this entire draft, class including Cam, mord Including Sheduer,
sanatis Including Tyler, shuck that would excite me even more
than what The seahawks already have here With Sam, darnold
and that's this, kid Jle. MONROE i, think As hugh just,
said this is a lottery, ticket that the upside with

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him is so exciting that you are talking about A Jalen.
Hurt it's A Lamar, jackson a guy that can absolutely
tilt the scale in your. Favor AND i think that
we are seeing just the way that THE nfl is
now that if you don't have a mobile, quarterback then
then defenses are just too good and they are able

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to close those passing. Windows and if you do have
a mobile, quarterback it just makes everything so much. Easier so,
again with No, ROE i just think that there at
this point in the draft number ninety, two, overall what's
the what's the?

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Downside let's say he's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
A Bus that's what to ask. You this is where
your expertise comes. In.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Yep was there someone else there that would and make
this a position of need and a player that could
have made an impact and made them better next?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
YEAR i mean, SURE i still think the wide receiver
defensive line is a position of. CONCERN i don't think
if they're a. STARTER i don't think That Jaylen monroe
is gonna be a. Starter but, AGAIN i think that
this is the upside that he, presents the type of
upside that can can can tilt the room and be
a franchise kind of a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Guy, WELL i think that there's there's true to to
some of what you're saying about the mobile quarterback in my,
opinion BUT i CAN i can show you data that
in this and every, era all the guys that are
quote unquote mobile quarterbacks always take more sacks than the

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guys that you say are immobile. Quarterbacks SO i WOULD
i would say there are some circumstances Where milroe can
get out of stuff that nobody else. Can but there's
another brand of avoiding, sacks which is you do it
before the balls even snap with there's another brand of
avoiding sacks from less athletic quarterbacks that you don't even know.

(01:20:04):
It you don't even know it because it's happened that
you correctly direct the. Protection you know where your outlets,
is if. Something And Tom brady in his last two
years was had the lowest sack rate even though that
second year The buccaneers had a horrible. Line the guy
who had the in both of the two, years the
guy who had the highest sack rate Was Justin fields At.

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Chicago who's more? Athletic justin a Young Justin fields or
a forty four year Old Tom. Brady, like there's other
ways to. Avoid SO i don't buy in the. Narrative
IF i did that presentation for the thirty third, Team
i've got a thirteen page power. POINT i can prove
this to. You in this and every, era mobile quarterbacks
take more sacks and less mobile quarterbacks Take DID i

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say it? Right mobile quarterbacks take more, sacks but the
point less mobile quarterbacks take less.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Sacks and we saw that with the lost of. Times
but having a mobile corps give you a different, option different,
weapons and it opens different things to your Your and
there's times where you're gonna, say he's the only cat
that could have done, That but there may be other
times where he takes a sack Where i'm Using Tom
brady as an extreme example so that we can.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Relate to the. Idea there's other sacks that That Tom
brady would have avoided because he knows how how to
set the, protections how to hit the outlets and what have,
you and and those it's much more difficult to identify those,
plays but it. Happens the numbers.

Speaker 17 (01:21:35):
Are are guy's also go to like, right, yeah but
that's WHY i, SAID i, said if you, CAN i
used him so that so you can more easily identifying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
That and then you, say, okay well are there any
other guys that can also do the. Thing so so
it's just been a it's been you, know it's been
a fact for. Decades mobile quarterbacks take high percentage of
sacks and and. Less mobile, quarterbacks whether It's, Manning, marino,

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whatever they have always had lower.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
You like to touch push with this, guy, though are
you gonna be a fan of it, now. Huh if
they have this, guy you want to do to change
your mind? Now, No i'm Sure i'm planning that. Flag
come on, Now, Sorry i'll check with holground. Two i'm
sure he's gonna be the same, way all, Right Greg
bell's Here news tribute.

Speaker 16 (01:22:24):
Thoughts, WELL i thought they're gonna do it in round,
TWO i said last. NIGHT i thought they'd do it
in round. Two the way that the board was coming
down to. Them this is A Clint kubiak. Quarterback they
want a guy who can get, outside do, bootlegs pressure the,
edge make the lineman run. That they want a draft
athletic lineman that run. Out and, oh by the, WAY

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i wouldn't be surprised if they give him Some Taysom
hill type. Packages he has two years of Develop i've
written and talked about this with The News.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Tribune they.

Speaker 16 (01:22:56):
Contract they Gave Sam darnold essentially a two year. Deal
they have a third year, crossroads just like they did
With Gino, smith when the money gets huge and they
have to make a. Decision but then he'll be twenty.
Nine they'll have two years Of darnold starting to decide
whether he's the, future and they want to resign him or.
Not by that, time you've got new quarterback Coach Andrew
janako And Clint, kubiak who will have two years to

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have worked With. Milrow in his accuracy of, throwing he's
the best running quarterback on the roster, already no doubt about.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
That he might fit AND i say this.

Speaker 16 (01:23:27):
Cautiously he might fit what they want With kubiak's offense
better than anybody in the offense right. Now he just
doesn't have the accuracy of. Throwing he admitted to us
to your point that he needs to get. Better your point,
view he needs to get better at not taking as many.
Sacks but it's the accuracy issue that got him to
where he's in the third. Round the athleticism and pressuring

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the edges and making defense after game planning a little
differently and fitting What kubiak wants to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Do it's exactly if whenis, Picked robbie used to turn
right away lottery pick and lottery. Ticket and that's what
and that's in husaid the same thing lottery. Ticket when
you talk about lottery tickets, like, yeah you're taking it's
a small gamble in a sense, said it's a third
round pick.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
O, heay you haven't done.

Speaker 16 (01:24:07):
It it's sixteen Years aldo a third time they've done.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
It and a. Right but let's just talk us for
a second about the nakeds that you're talking about With,
kubiak because, yes it's a portion and we're going to
see a lot of, it and we're going to see
so you fake the. Stretch let's say to the left,
side you fake the stretch left Over Charles cross and
now with great Table, okay and now because you have

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a right handed, quarterback whether it's Mill row or Whether Sam,
darnold but if you're picturing in your mind Mill, row
you fake the stretch to the left and then you
come out to the. Right in those, concepts you have
to have design outbreaking routes in the flat right across
or coming over tears. Right so you can't have any

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inbreaking routes with the quarterback on the move to the.
Right so there's a limited amount what you can. Do
and it's a first and second DOWN, pa so if
you can be really effective with, that it's it's not
something you can just like like, say this is the
bulk of what we're gonna do all for sixty minutes
on A. Sunday on third, downs you're gonna have to

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just stay right in the pocket and you're gonna have
to exkt it Everything i'm, saying you, Know i'm. NOT i.
Don't i'm not talking as IF i Think i'm disclosing
something you don't. Know But i'm just saying as a,
reminder the nakeds are gonna be on First you, know
you run the stretch one first, down you come back
the next time it's first and, ten you run the naked,
keep and then you you throw in the, flatter you

(01:25:35):
throw the, over what have. You but there's there's a
limit how many times you can do. That in, again it.

Speaker 16 (01:25:39):
Was beyond time for them to do. This they finally
did it sixteen years a third. Quarterback they needed to do,
it and they.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Should have done it when they had his second round
picks the first two, years last two.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Years it's, Wild, Rob we've been doing this for you
AND i have been doing this like sixteen, Years, rob
AND i think for sixteen years On, fridays all through
the college football, season then all leading up to the.
Draft we've spent at least the weeks being up to the.
Draft one one day talking about. Quarterbacks we've spent the
summer or the fall talking about quarterbacks and it never
comes to. Fruition they never take a, quarterback and we
kind of in the back of our, mind, no they're

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probably not going to take a. Quarterback and you, know
even when they Took, russ they already had to presume
starter in the sense And Matt flynn and that changed.
Obviously and Then alex, mcgou LIKE i, said it was.
Nothing let me just recap what they've done while we
wait For john And mike McDonald to come in. Here
gray's able yesterday eighteenth pick overall guard out Of North Dakota.
State today they moved up into the upper. Tiers third

(01:26:31):
overall pick in the second, round thirty five. Overall nick
amount of worry From South. Carolina he's a see McDonald. Play,
yeah The Kyle, Hamilton kyle you Know Cam chancellor type, Safety.
Hugh they like to do quick three, safeties, right they'll
they'll use three safeties at.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Times, yeah if they use three safety then that would
be right now as the rosters can start With Kobe
bryant And Julian love and then you drop you would
presumably drop him, down depending on the. Personnel, oh by the,
Way Kobe.

Speaker 16 (01:27:00):
Bryant's contract is ending after this year and he's only
been a one year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Starter you're not Taking witherspoon off the. Field So witherspoon
bounces the corner and then and then that's how you
Played Big, nickel.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Big as Big nichol as a post and Keep witherspoon
outside and not have to worry About Joe slash whatever
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
There, Yeah nichols five DB's with three. Corners Big nickel
is five DB's with three.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Safeties Elijah arroyo at tight end out Of miami was
taking number fifty, overall pick number eighteen in the second.
Round ROB a couple concerns about, him.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
Right, well the biggest CONCERN i have is just the health.
Questions you missed basically two seasons with a knee injury. Too,
yes and then then wasn't able to work out at
the combine or the pro. Day he was at The Senior,
bowl and that's where he was. Spectacular we know how
The seahawks had, prioritized you, know The Senior. Bowl but
here here's the, thing and this is WHY i was

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lower on him than.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
A lot of. People seem to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Be Elijah royo entered this past season with eleven total
catches on his college. Resume now he exploded this past.
SEASON i am a big believer What Mario christabaul is
doing At, miami and SO i do believe that he
fits in nicely with What sele's looking. For we you, know,
again i'd pound the table For seatle to get a wide.
RECEIVER i think in the eleven personnel that The seahawks

(01:28:16):
are likely to be incorporated even, MORE i think that
or sometimes two tight ends THAT i think That Elijah
royo has again that upside at the tight end position
That No roe presents at.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Quarterback and Then Jaln milroe with the final pick, today
ninety two, overall twenty eighth pick in the third, round
the quarterback out Of. Alabama so four players. Down they've
got a busy day tomorrow with five picks starting in
the fourth. Round one pick in the fourth, round and
it's actually a compensatory, pick SO i say fourth round,
here it's number thirty five in the fourth, round, yes right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Right that makes you a fifth rounder.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Except for your contract says. Otherwise and then they've got
two fifth round picks and two picks in the seventh
round tomorrow will be on the air a nine. O'clock
we're not going anywhere by the, Word we're just waiting
for this is what. Happens we kind of try to
manipulate stuff. Around we got to wait a little. Bit
we thought they were gonna be in here right. Away
of waiting For John schneyder And mike McDonald to pop
in here in a. Second what's the question you can ask.

Speaker 16 (01:29:09):
The Spot Why? Milroe why this year of all the
years you've had the opportunities draft? Quarterbacks why what was
it About melroe at this point in this draft and
this year with the guys you've just? Traded do you
Know Smith donald you just signed To, locke you just
Signed what was it About milroe that made this year
the only one of The?

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Well you know what's really what's brutal is we you
can't ask your question about what your long term quarter a?

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Quarterback you ask, that you have answered.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
That you can't ask that this. Year that's MY i
WAS i was busting as chops. EARLIER i, say, hey
you got to ask that question, again right, like you
got to ask that question? Again and what was the
answer this?

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Year was the draftings to speak to. Us, yeah but
do you, say, like are you serious with that? Question
last year was serious with that. Question and by the
way THAT i think we all know that was a
very fair AND.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
I WILL i wouldn't bust as chops IF i didn't.
Think so we, know we talked about that and you
got you got totally ripped.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Unnecessarily, yeah but you know what part of the job
HAZARD i get.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
It, yeah, Yeah, Rob what do you want to hear
from these?

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Guys?

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
Uh, well the first THING i want to kind of
acknowledge the the THE nfl draft expert in the room
for the coma uh in The tacoma, era because there's
one guy, HERE i, think in this entire place that
projected The seahawks to select Ul Jaylen. Milroe and that's
our our buddy, Here Greg. Bell so so a tip
of the cap to.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Him you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Know that's About that's about my success right, too you,
know BUT i guess Just i'm, uh you, KNOW i
mentioned this in passing with a couple of other folks
when WHEN i came into the building, TODAY i happened
to come in Riyas John shier was walking in and
he just had a different energy about him than WHAT
i had seen the last couple of times in the.

(01:30:50):
DRAFT i think that this, draft this particular draft, CLASS
i think that they very much planned that they have
a possibility At, milroe AND i think that they are.
Excited AND i have that same excitement because to, me
this doesn't feel like a class, Like, okay you're gonna
be possibly competing for the. Playoffs this is a franchise
that is going for, it and that that excites me

(01:31:11):
just BECAUSE I i do think that this is a
guy that has again that type of. Upside and SO
i Guess i'm Not i'm not usually one that's going
to ask a lot of questions of the coach or
the general manager.

Speaker 5 (01:31:20):
In these, settings BUT i want.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
TO i happen to see one of their scouts that,
happens the scout in THE, sec The southern, region that
happened to walk in here for a, moment AND i.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Could see his.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Excitement yes he, Did, Yes and so AGAIN i THINK
i think that that's that to, ME i think that
body language is. Important it's one of the reasons why
should Were sandras fell down on the, board you, Know
but the body language of The seahawks scouting, staff AND
i presume the coaching staff as. WELL i think is
going to, uh you, know basically say everything that you

(01:31:51):
need to say about what The seahawks feel about their
selection so.

Speaker 16 (01:31:55):
Far and that's why we're here and not in our
basements of some house to do this kind of that's
the importance of coming to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
This it's absolutely part.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Of, well you, know this is an interesting thing because
there's been years when We i'm just looking back at past, drafts,
right you know the L. J, collier you, Know marquise
player that. Draft Gary jennings didn't even played a snap
here or in THE. Nfl you, know they did TAKE
Dk metcalf that. Year but there's that was like the
one guy that kind of came out of here going, okay,
Cool like they got like L. J, Collier like we're
all looking, around remember they took L. J? Collier like,

(01:32:24):
what like you study everybody in the first.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Round you there's a first. Round it was a defensive
fan had no. Twitch he had the size of a
defensive end and and any and the twitch of a three.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Tech, yeah the D S, Ridge Trey brown still in
foresyth we can all that was well you, know the
biggest one of. All you want me to go back
to the running. Back, yeah there were some ones that
were hard to get excited. About this feels like a
draft that if you're a fan and and you, know

(01:32:55):
you should be, excited, right you, know you know if
you take five picks to go way.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
And and by the, Way, now a little bit of
What i'm gonna say is cooking the books a. Little,
okay if you take the second half of the season
and ignore THE jv game against The, rams The seahawks
defense in terms of points allowed by the, defense so
this is a Races Geno smith picked six which wasn't

(01:33:22):
against the, defense and there was a special teams touchdown against, them,
right so those fourteen points come. Off so it's just
points against the. Defense ignore The ram game and the
seat The, seahawks and, oh ignore one other. Thing you
just go quarters one through four because the overtime in

(01:33:45):
against The rams here at, home if you kind of
if you kind of positioned it that, way The seahawks
had the number one defense in the second half of THE,
nfl and so today four picks p three on. Offense
there we. Go let's listen to the guys up, front,
right you guys are not, ready.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
Gentlemen Brady greig's not either running.

Speaker 11 (01:34:14):
Ready appreciate, That brett far child, like would you like?

Speaker 10 (01:34:20):
Gentlemen? John Guess greg you mean to get out a? Gentleman, okay,
yeah we weren't. Laughing, uh, yeah exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Day it's a cool.

Speaker 11 (01:34:31):
Day and see how history really. Is uh started out
outstanding With nick we waited On royal and then uh.

Speaker 10 (01:34:44):
You know that And jalen right there at the end
was a big deal for. Us SO i got really
excited about.

Speaker 12 (01:34:49):
It, YEAH i, mean just talk about all three guys
having them just a consensus and a plan form and
a vision for these guys join our, team and and
all three really exciting in their own. Rights so, yeah
it's a great day that you've askally so many.

Speaker 16 (01:35:07):
Years, john how quack do you?

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Said how about the drag all the? Speechers?

Speaker 10 (01:35:13):
Yes what was it about this?

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
Year this player in this round with this one or?

Speaker 11 (01:35:18):
Fifty, WELL i, mean you, know you give Uh Ryan
florence And Aaron hyland a ton of.

Speaker 10 (01:35:24):
Credit those guys did a ton of work on.

Speaker 11 (01:35:26):
'em you, know it's really hard on those guys to
be able to see, that you, know twenty two miles
an hour or whatever you were hitting the film around the.
Field but, uh uh, no he's he's an incredible. Athlete, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Very very.

Speaker 10 (01:35:41):
FAST i think literally it's twenty one two or something like.
That you know IT'S gps. Speed but, uh hard.

Speaker 11 (01:35:49):
Worker and you know he's a Uh William Campbell award
like Academic Heisman award. Winner he's you, know he's had
four different offensive. Coordinators uh worked his tail.

Speaker 10 (01:36:00):
Off. Mom his mom's uh, name you, know mom a Former,
navy dad's. Marine, like he's just he's just a. He
he came in and a.

Speaker 11 (01:36:09):
Visit he had a really great visit and uh he
was in a spot and it and he just he
just kept coming and uh and he was there by.

Speaker 15 (01:36:17):
Himself do you alo thought he was a that you
told him he was his number ONE tv on your
board with that?

Speaker 11 (01:36:22):
Accurate Uh, NO i don't think he was actually, no
but it was just damn.

Speaker 10 (01:36:30):
Close, yeah he's a he's a he's a unique.

Speaker 11 (01:36:32):
Special uh special special, kid special, athlete special, kid special young,
man uh.

Speaker 10 (01:36:39):
Athlete you, know and you know we're gonna develop him
as a.

Speaker 11 (01:36:42):
Quarterback but with, that you, know he's, added can add
something special as we.

Speaker 10 (01:36:47):
Go it is a a.

Speaker 16 (01:36:48):
House do you fit with whom you, there what's to do?

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Well IT'S I i think it's you.

Speaker 12 (01:36:54):
Go you gotta look at it through the lens of
the things we talked about when we first Tired. Clinton
one of the reasons we hired him was his ability
to incorporate the whole the whole whole roster and really
bring out what everybody does really.

Speaker 10 (01:37:05):
Well SO i, Mean Adam.

Speaker 12 (01:37:08):
Jalen's a part of, that and like the the ability
to kind of employ and bring the best at all
the players is really. Exciting so that's how it. FITS i,
mean we're gonna be, running we're Running clint's, offense And
jalen's gonna fit right. In and but when he's in,
there we're gonna be doing the stuff that he does,
great just like we will when When sam's leading the.
Charge so, yeah it's, uh it's gonna be a lot of.

Speaker 10 (01:37:32):
Fun you, know envision That Taysom hill like back each.

Speaker 12 (01:37:36):
ARM i don't think it's fair to Say Taysom hill
and he tastes such a great player and the way
they use him was more like a tight end fullback
hybrid role with sometimes taking. Snaps, Uh jalen's a quarterback
through and. Through he's gonna be, trained uh to play
quarterback for. Us and when he's in, there he's gonna
be playing.

Speaker 10 (01:37:53):
Quarterback so.

Speaker 12 (01:37:55):
But the athleticism is gonna come to, life you, know
when he's, on when he's on the, field and and
that's how it's gonna help.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Us we thought With, nick how much did you Have
Kyle hamilton in?

Speaker 16 (01:38:06):
Mind and and maybe.

Speaker 12 (01:38:13):
On This Saturday Night live Tod off, WHATEVER i just
keep thinking, of like like there's two boxes a.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Check With, nick Either Cam chancellor Or kyle playing your
thinking as you Evaluated.

Speaker 10 (01:38:26):
NICK.

Speaker 12 (01:38:28):
I THINK i, Think, UH i think the physicality Of
cam IS i, mean you have such a respect For.
Cam he's such a just a unicorn of a PLAYER
nfl history for us leading a.

Speaker 10 (01:38:40):
Boom just.

Speaker 12 (01:38:43):
He's, hard he can't can't like Put he's just so,
unique you. Know and And kyle is the same. Way
AND i think what we found With kyle's that the
system allows for us to get multiple safeties on the
field and also be in the slot and with you,
know with kind of like enhanced cover. Responsibilities and he

(01:39:03):
can affect the game that way kind of at the
second level while training at the third, level and uh
gives us some depth of the safety room guys that
we really love that are currently on the, roster and
then you, know to be able to affect the game,
earlier you, know early on in his career too as
he starts to. Develop but same same story With, nick
just coming in throughout the, process getting to know us

(01:39:24):
on his visit really helped out buying into the.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Vision that we have for.

Speaker 12 (01:39:27):
Him and it's gonna be really fun to to uh
to work with him when he gets here next.

Speaker 15 (01:39:30):
Week, john are you surprised That nick was still available
on date you and was he someone that you ain't
considered in day?

Speaker 18 (01:39:36):
One?

Speaker 11 (01:39:36):
Yeah, uh uh, yeah we had him right nice To
greg and uh so here your question last. Night there
are people that we were interested in and uh, so,
yeah great relationship With Chad brinker And. Tennessee we're talking

(01:39:57):
to a couple of clubs there and and uh, yeah
we were able to it worked out. GREAT i, was you,
know we were a little nervous that you, know things
are gonna fall apart there CAUSE i don't know how
far it would have gone that was it felt like
a long.

Speaker 10 (01:40:09):
Way fifteen fifty two.

Speaker 11 (01:40:10):
Felt like LIKE i it felt like along pretty far, distance,
Right SO i don't he wouldn't have gotten. There, uh
he wouldn't have fallen. There but, YEAH i mean it's this,
guy like this is one of the best Combines i've ever.

Speaker 10 (01:40:24):
SEEN i, mean physically he does kind of look Like Cam. Chancellors.
UH i Think cam would tell you he didn't test like.
That but you, know do you move up as far
as you?

Speaker 16 (01:40:34):
Did?

Speaker 10 (01:40:34):
Yeah see?

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Him what kind of does that take an extra level.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Of conviction and the player to get up with the
taste to move?

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Up party?

Speaker 11 (01:40:40):
Given, Absolutely but you know we felt like we you,
know we've added two first round draft.

Speaker 10 (01:40:45):
Picks so it's when you're doing, that it's, like, alright,
well you.

Speaker 11 (01:40:49):
Know we're getting getting up a third round, pick and
then you have to try to figure out what the
third round's gonna look like once it once it's you,
know everything's picked apart there and it was just evident To.

Speaker 10 (01:41:01):
Mike and, myself everybody in the room it was well worth.

Speaker 15 (01:41:04):
It what did you learn about him on the thirty
visits that made you?

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Guys and what do you want to learn about.

Speaker 12 (01:41:11):
Well you, know again we entered the equation late as,
coaches so give us an opportunity to kind of see
how he sees the.

Speaker 10 (01:41:18):
Game and, uh you, Know.

Speaker 12 (01:41:22):
Jeff howard did a great, Job Carl scott ad did
a great job with those guys throughout the whole. Process
And i'm really getting to open, up like football wise
about how he sees, it and you know how we
would our vision for, him AND i think it started to.
Mesh we had a great Conversation Ernest jenna and was
in my office and we sat down With nick AND
i gave him a bunch of grief about you, Know
South carolina. Football but it was a good, time just

(01:41:45):
just trying to get him a setting where he can
be relaxed and get a great feel for the person
and the football and the person met or.

Speaker 10 (01:41:52):
Meshed excuse, me and off we.

Speaker 14 (01:41:55):
Go may not be fair to, Compare, sorry it may
not be fair to compare it to Can't Chancellor Colin
hilton play the combine?

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
Numbers he pointed, out how do you see that.

Speaker 14 (01:42:04):
Manifest the way that he plays in coverage and playing down?

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Hill he played all over the field For South.

Speaker 11 (01:42:10):
Carolina, Yeah i'm M. M mike probably gets tired of
this and our defensive. Staff BUT i, MEAN i like
the WAY i was raised in this business was With
Ron wolf was, like why couldn't he be a? CORNER i,
mean he'd be a, shutdown like he has coverage, skills he,
Has he's just a Unique but, again the combine was
the one of the most impressive things we've, seen you,

(01:42:32):
KNOW i, mean not for how big and explosive he.

Speaker 10 (01:42:34):
IS i mean these the all all.

Speaker 11 (01:42:36):
Four of these guys are incredible, athletes which is awesome
because that in turn also you, know plays in the
h to your point transitions onto the football field and
you can.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
See, it you.

Speaker 11 (01:42:48):
Know so, YEAH i, mean Like, Elijah elijah really like you,
know some of our coaches were, like maybe he's an ex.
RECEIVER i mean this guy's like this guy can like
full route, tree like super like. EXPLOSIVE i mean, again
great senior.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Boy sorry With, jalen is there kind of more patients
there because you, say, wow the ceiling's really, high do
you have a? Plan you, know kind of more unique
to him that, say, hey we're gonna give this really
a lot of patience.

Speaker 12 (01:43:23):
And not push them through, yeah we don't use patience
a lot around, here and but, THERE i, mean there's
always gonna be an urgency in how we're developing our
players and how we're training, them and, uh you, Know
jalen's gonna be right there with everybody. Else but uh,
YEAH i Mean SAM'S i, mean Like sam's gonna take

(01:43:44):
by far and away over ninety percent of our snaps
this year and, whatever, whatever however we, do However jalen
deserves and earns the right to go out, there.

Speaker 10 (01:43:55):
Then we'll do. That you, know if it's gonna help the.

Speaker 12 (01:43:56):
Team it's best for us to move the ball and you,
know give these defensive defensive coordinators some, headaches which Is
i'm really happy it's not gonna be uh, us so
that that's. Awesome and, YEAH i don't want to put
a timetable on, it but, yeah it's it's not an
immediate need for him to go out there and be
taking a bunch of snaps for us initially.

Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
Already have five her back beneficialism to come into one
of the multiple.

Speaker 10 (01:44:19):
Bat trends and started a bunch of games and have
that down.

Speaker 19 (01:44:22):
Spars, YES i mean we have five guys right now
and and you know these guys are they're all outstanding,
people are all, competitors are really smart.

Speaker 10 (01:44:36):
Guys so, YEAH i think it's gonna be me great
spot for. Him it's a really cool problem that right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
Now i'm sorry to add jail into that mix with
like a a third round.

Speaker 13 (01:44:44):
Pick did you have to get a sense of his
willingness to come in and, uh you, know sort of
find his that.

Speaker 12 (01:44:50):
Should you, know got into Your, YEAH i THINK i, think,
yeah it's a little bit of unique. Situation but these
are conversations that you know that we've had throughout the,
process And jalen's been awesome through that.

Speaker 10 (01:45:03):
Process It's.

Speaker 12 (01:45:05):
Asian Nicole winn's been awesome and throughout the. Process AND
i think we've got a great plan.

Speaker 10 (01:45:09):
Together so.

Speaker 12 (01:45:12):
You feel the alignment and the excitement about the opportunity
for kind of everybody. Involved so that's where're at right,
now and just really just in a great. SITUATION i
feel like we can kind of move, forward get the
best at, everybody and, uh let's rock and.

Speaker 20 (01:45:25):
Roll and he probably said that about the draft board
because he you, know he's add an explosive weapon while
he develops as a, quarterback RIGHT i, mean which rookie
quarterback is going to come in and knocking on the
park right?

Speaker 10 (01:45:37):
Away like everyone needs that.

Speaker 15 (01:45:38):
Time so to talk about How Elijah royal fits into
your tight end room and the.

Speaker 12 (01:45:42):
Role of you been, playing, well, YEAH i think you,
Know JOHN. A, LUDETH i Think elijah is a unique
situation too where this guy could run the you, know
an extensive route tree and, uh you, know to to
have to account for a tight end body on the
field and him also to be able to split out
why do ex receiver type of. Things bigger body that

(01:46:04):
we normally we'd probably have right now on our roster
just provides a ton of value and then he's gonna throw,
it throw it in, there has the actual tight end
in line and be able to kind of create some
of those you, know bigger personnel formations his division we
have for.

Speaker 10 (01:46:17):
Him, so, uh it's really Exciting john when the times are.

Speaker 14 (01:46:19):
Eliger he missed quite a few games into four forty,
three and then he was mentioning us that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
A lot of the routes and random slip Route so.

Speaker 14 (01:46:27):
How how does that complicate try and do look at
a player when he's missed a lot of time and
maybe he wasn't being utilized a lot as a political
threat and try to.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Project what he can do to.

Speaker 10 (01:46:36):
Him, well that's exactly why he you, know w was
there when we were picking at. FIFTY i, mean.

Speaker 11 (01:46:43):
Otherwise you know you had to, like LIKE I i
told you guys, before like we end up like beating
these guys up so much throughout the. Process but you
have to be real about. It and he has missed.
Time but if he hasn't missed, time he's probably a
like the talent's like top fifteen, pick you, Know SO
i mean HE'S i mean, it this guy's it's guys.

Speaker 10 (01:47:02):
Special.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
John you start by, saying this is a great day
to See Access. Street what about?

Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
It what about today makes you feel that?

Speaker 11 (01:47:09):
Way it just feels like you know today with like
the way you, know like Adding nick coming.

Speaker 10 (01:47:17):
Back last, night we were really you, know we had
a lot of conversations about you, know how do we
how do we do? THIS i, mean you know we
almost traded back up in to Get. Nick.

Speaker 11 (01:47:28):
Uh every was extremely passionate about. It you, know if
it would have come out of the draft without, him
we would have been. Disappointed now the same, THINGS i,
MEAN T S. L same thing With. ELIJAH i mean
every every we was, talking you, know throughout the, process
throughout all of our, meetings like what you, know there's

(01:47:48):
no way like how do we.

Speaker 10 (01:47:49):
Like what are we gonna be okay with this? Guy
like what are we gonna be able to use?

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
Them you?

Speaker 10 (01:47:52):
KNOW i mean like this guy's like how do you
add that? Guy and and, uh it's.

Speaker 11 (01:47:58):
All for like the people the, competitor there's the athletes
that they just feel like they always they always feel.

Speaker 10 (01:48:04):
SPECIAL i can't describe it any different than to say
they feel.

Speaker 11 (01:48:07):
SPECIAL i think they feel. Different and, uh it's a great,
thing LIKE i said last, night respecting the group of
players that's you right.

Speaker 10 (01:48:14):
Now to add these guys, in it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Outstanding, mike what did you learn About jill and the
person you have suspective time?

Speaker 16 (01:48:21):
Run?

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Man?

Speaker 12 (01:48:23):
UH i think you just you feel the urgency and
like the passion for like his his vision he wants
for his career and where he wants to. Go and
he's incredibly. DETERMINED i, mean this guy is a tireless,
worker highly respected by his, teammates highly, intelligent and he's

(01:48:46):
just really determined to become a great player and a great,
quarterback and we all have a lot to learn and
grow and in my career and his career and as
a football, team and we all we All i'll see.
That and but it's since it felt like there's a
great opportunity to add into the mix and be able

(01:49:06):
to do it.

Speaker 11 (01:49:06):
Together is how does you mentioned That clint schools too
the best in?

Speaker 10 (01:49:10):
Ability, yeah what's the best way to us? General as a?

Speaker 12 (01:49:13):
QUARTERBACK i, mean, look you quarterbacks and extend the play
are incredibly difficult to.

Speaker 10 (01:49:20):
DEFEND i, mean the worst.

Speaker 12 (01:49:22):
Feeling in the world is you play the first play
of the play perfectly on defense and you defend it
and you're, like all, right, sweet we did. It and
then the guy still has the, ball and then you
gotta defend the next, play sometimes a third, play and
he can kill you in the first, play kill you
in the second, play kill you the third, play and
it's not a fun, existence you, know to live, consistently you.

Speaker 10 (01:49:43):
Know so he he has that ability In.

Speaker 13 (01:49:47):
Baltimore With lamar and, all, like you play into how
you evaluate it him in.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Terms of what you were just talking about with the.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Difficulty in defending that type of ability or the ability
for a quarterback to develop as a. Passer you, know, WELL.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
I MEAN i think yeah is a short.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Answer of.

Speaker 12 (01:50:06):
COURSE i MEAN i have so much respect for you,
know that organization, obviously And lamars Obviously tess player and
but they're on different they're just.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
There you have.

Speaker 12 (01:50:16):
To respect their career trajectories as independent you, know so
we respect.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
That you, know we have that vision of.

Speaker 12 (01:50:22):
It but, YEAH i, mean you, see you when you
add people to your, organization you want to have a
vision for these. People sometimes it's bigger than they have for,
themselves and then our jobs make it come to life
over time when you work together on. It and that's
that's how we See, jalen you, know that's how we
see all these, guys anybody that adds the, organization anybody

(01:50:42):
that's on our. Team it's our job as coaches to
have that vision for.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Him and that's what makes it so.

Speaker 12 (01:50:48):
Fun you know when you see guys kind of do
things that they didn't necessarily think they had the possibility of,
doing and then now the team's coming together and now
we're rocking and. ROLLING i, mean that's that's the that's
the that's the stuff right.

Speaker 10 (01:50:59):
There. Man that's that's what you do it.

Speaker 11 (01:51:01):
For and watching those, guys you, know watching The New
orleans last, year you, know before they got so banged
up on the offensive, line when they're utilizing all their,
guys they're just they're shifting people.

Speaker 10 (01:51:10):
Around they. IT i, mean it was really impressive what
they were doing.

Speaker 12 (01:51:14):
Or scoring like forty points a, game you, know and
they have so many mechanisms to get guys around and
change personnel.

Speaker 10 (01:51:19):
Groups and get the ball the guys.

Speaker 12 (01:51:23):
Inexpensively where they can let their let the guys do
the things they do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
Well and that's that's.

Speaker 12 (01:51:28):
Uh, again that's one of the reasons why Hard clinton
and the rest of those. Guys there so much respect
for how they operate and you, know the, creativity but
also kind of sticking to the you, know the foundation
of the fundamentals, too which is like a secret so you,
know kind of a secret sauce to. It and it's
gonna be a really fun journey to kind of make
it come to.

Speaker 15 (01:51:44):
Life, john you talked about upsets in the, past uh
Or i'm curious how the draft falling so. Far there
have been many upsets or they kind of go out
according to what you need to Expected.

Speaker 18 (01:51:55):
UH i mean the first round was always kind of
like take the first round, out so through two and so,
two two and three we've probably had about four so
uh uh like now it'll start it kind of starts
dissipating yah as we.

Speaker 10 (01:52:15):
Go but, YEAH i mean it's always you, know we
talked about.

Speaker 11 (01:52:21):
For the guys last night that that for the every
time a guy, leaves it's like there's like how many
hours when they're the scouting this?

Speaker 10 (01:52:27):
Player, Right so but it goes the other way. Too you,
know we have guys coming from the free agent. Board
we have guys coming from the medical.

Speaker 11 (01:52:33):
Board you, know we have a grade that's like says
the guy's a really good, player but he's just not
our type of.

Speaker 10 (01:52:37):
Person so they come from there.

Speaker 11 (01:52:39):
Too so so like there are, upsets but then there's
also like the there's big.

Speaker 10 (01:52:45):
Wins it's quite.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
A story the uh the should do or standards not
being drafted? Did how did you guys react cause you
saw that?

Speaker 10 (01:52:52):
Unfold how do we? React you have youfin reaction to?

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
THAT i didn't.

Speaker 11 (01:52:57):
React, yeah, No, UH i think you're just you're just
kind of going going. Through we're not, listening you, know
we're we're watching we have the island and we're not.

Speaker 10 (01:53:06):
Right we don't know what the stories that are going.

Speaker 19 (01:53:08):
On how different was because of how the quarterbacks got.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Scatter shot multip the first three round like last.

Speaker 10 (01:53:13):
Year six and the first year there's a quote, back, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
How did that change the dynamics of the? Draft were
you guys your teams that want to trade for how
it shaped least the first three rounds because the quarter there's.

Speaker 11 (01:53:23):
GOOD i think it just got back to the the
the normalcy of it of a draft last year was
not Only.

Speaker 10 (01:53:33):
Yeah to have the you, know six guys go that
high was a twelve, yeah twelve.

Speaker 16 (01:53:38):
Pikes did it made our make it harder for you
to draft or find draft or out of the trade
fund trade?

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Park? No not.

Speaker 10 (01:53:46):
Necessarily oh, YEAH i mean we could've gone back right.

Speaker 11 (01:53:49):
There at the more people r right, there people started
really pretty good and uh like once we got into,
WELL i think we were the first trade of the,
day right and then people started people were definitely moving
and things things really things really start s uh started
to get in. There we had an opportunity to go
back a little bit, there and then we just decided

(01:54:10):
to stay there and and Take, Chammer.

Speaker 14 (01:54:12):
Joe you talked about how on the past you get
stuffed like IN Nfl europe or get like the young
ast of.

Speaker 10 (01:54:17):
Reps yeah you mentioned five. Quarterbacks, yeah so.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
How does how Did jim get enough reps at a young?
Quarterback like if it needs to developments a long, champ.

Speaker 10 (01:54:24):
You, GOT i can do that.

Speaker 12 (01:54:26):
One, yeah you're gonna ask our. Guys we're gonna get
a maximum amount of. Reps and, like one thing THAT
i think we take a lot of pride in here
is our threes get a ton of. Reps probably it
probably speaks to like preseason record over the over, Time
like we believe in development and in order to get
good a, football you gotta play. Football and, uh if

(01:54:46):
they're gonna give, us it's a shout out to the
rest of the team out, there but they know. This
if we're gonna for a lot at a hundred and fifty,
minutes if we're gonna be out there.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
For a one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 12 (01:54:55):
Minutes and but the way you can do that is
by changing the, tempos changing who's out on the. Field
the threes are getting a ton of. Reps there's plenty
of opportunities before and after practice to work. Stuff there's
walk through, room you, know there's there's all sorts of
tools you can use to try to to ramp up those,
cheap really good. Reps and and then and then it's

(01:55:17):
just as we, go what is the what are the
players need to work on to take their game the next?

Speaker 10 (01:55:21):
Level and quarterbacks are the same you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
Know the same.

Speaker 11 (01:55:23):
Vision but, yeah he has you, know he's has thirty
three career, starts you, know so he's he has played
a lot of football.

Speaker 10 (01:55:29):
Ready it's just ta it's takes it takes.

Speaker 11 (01:55:32):
A minute for every, rookie, right like the pro s pro,
systems and he's twenty one and six and like you,
know he's been through like a like a semi.

Speaker 10 (01:55:40):
Bench this guy's just he's. Fun he's a really cool.
Kid sorry young man, again not a kid just getting,
older like just.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
Giving all the things outside of their defensive south and
you're able to make that happen With.

Speaker 12 (01:55:53):
Nick, yeah, OH i mean he he's been a guy that,
uh our whole staff's been really excited about the whole.
PROCESS i, mean how do you watch his tape and
not you, know just see the potential of what he'd
become And. Uh to our coach's, credit they they really
felt strongly about. It and you want to go through
the process and get the align with the, scouts and

(01:56:14):
the scouts saw it the same, way and it's our
job to kind of make they could come to life,
now which is the fun PROCESS i get in, here you,
know go to rookie football school and learn what a
slot formation, is, like learn about twenty one per you,
know is just build it from the ground, up and
if you do it the right, WAY i really believe
it could be something something pretty.

Speaker 10 (01:56:35):
Special Job JALEN a couple.

Speaker 14 (01:56:37):
More jalen had ten yards pert tip to two years.
Ago in this past season his interception right almost. Double
but where do you do it right? Now from a
passing standpoint where he's at it developed it not just
throwing the football the way he's, throwing the anticipation and
progressions things of that.

Speaker 11 (01:56:53):
Nature, OH i think similar to like a like a stated,
earlier like all the all these the whole group really
like the everybody's it's gonna take a, minute you, Know
uh for all of, them everyone's at different different. Levels
he's in a unique neat.

Speaker 10 (01:57:07):
Category. Uh with this whole group.

Speaker 11 (01:57:09):
Of, quarterbacks because of these you, know he's a again
like the explosive. Athlete the, speed you, know he's you,
KNOW i saw him play live At. Wisconsin it's, like,
okay well you know, port you, know great, play poor
decision and he just scored from sixty yards or, something
you know WHAT i, mean he just takes off and he's.

Speaker 10 (01:57:24):
Gone it's a, natural natural runner with the. Ball Like
mike was talking about the you, know the the the
puts so much pressure on.

Speaker 16 (01:57:31):
Defenses And john last night he said that date, okay,
sorry he said to day three was about the most
one did this.

Speaker 11 (01:57:39):
Year stay to give it a run first money or, Mean, Ane,
yeah it, did it did JUST i, MEAN i think
the excitement of of trading up For Nick lodge is
still being there And jane will still be in. THERE
i think it's PRETTY i think everybody everybody in the
room was you, Know god, Helps god helps those who
can't help, themselves and you know there's just like you,

(01:57:59):
know work like us up to, you pray like us
up To, god and like, everything we'll just go the
way it's supposed.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
To, John you've got a late fourth two, fifths two sevens.
Tomorrow do you feel?

Speaker 15 (01:58:09):
Good about picture gods you want to be adding Moving
how are you feeling about?

Speaker 6 (01:58:11):
Her?

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
Uh, WELL i think we're pliable is WHAT i would.

Speaker 11 (01:58:16):
Say you, know we have we definitely have specific guys
we'd like to, add and then how do we you,
know we'll go back in there for a minute and
talk about, it but how do we maneuver to get
to those spots to make sure we require those Guys'?

Speaker 10 (01:58:28):
Christmas there's a, Plan BUT i would SAY i would say.
Pliable anything, else thank?

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
You, okay, yeah thanks, guys thank. You there you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Go that Is John schneider And mike McDonald post day
two news conference here at The Virginia Mason Athletics. Center
and we'll go ahead and just put a wrap on.
Things Get rob in, here Get hugh in, here get
some final thoughts and as we'll take some breaks after
that and you can make those. Up and in the,
Meantime Hugh, millen you got a chance to hear from those.
Guys so some thoughts from.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
You, WELL i think that they they address the offense
three out of. Four that's conspicuous to. ME i think
offensively tight. End they needed. It AND i think that you,
know you heard some of those brief comments About, arroyo
he just doesn't seem.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
Like a uh, okay he MENTIONED. X he Like mike McDonald,
said we can put him in an.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
Exposition, yeah because because you watch his tape and he's
lined up AT x and he's running speed, outs like
like the six step speed out that you see the
receivers run at the. Combine he's doing that. Route so,
YEAH i am really blown away that this guy has
these kind of movement. Skills AND i think he's exactly.

(01:59:49):
RIGHT i think he intimated had he not had the
the juries the, injuries he basically intimated he would have
been a first. Rounder and this guy moves like a first.
Rounder Uh, LIKE i can't believe he tested at six
five and an eighth because when you watch, him you
think you're you're looking at a six two and a half.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
Guy, Right SO i thought some what he said About, milroll.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
WELL i think he's he didn't really bite on the
The Taysom hill, thing BUT i think that THAT i
still like that, analogy uh the way they use, it you,
KNOW i, mean.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
You give the impression there's gonna be a package.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
For, HIM i do think so, yeah, sure, yeah that impression, yeah,
yeah and and you, know just they love his. Athleticism,
yeah and so, UH i don't know who they they
want to compare. To and then and THEN i think
the final piece of it, is, uh you, know the.
SAFETY i don't think it was a dire position in,

(02:00:47):
need but the flexibility and and the. Athlete you, know
they reference the combine, numbers you, know SO i think
a lot of PEOPLE i think it's interesting to, Say,
okay on a linear, scale how much do you value
just what you see on the field and production Versus,
okay what about the measurables as the, athlete you, know
this is an athlete where you look and you, say,

(02:01:09):
hey they were clearly motivated by combine. Performance and not
that they wouldn't, have but they. Were it may have
just been adding an extra exclamation, point but the athleticism
of him in the measurables was something that really was

(02:01:31):
was a key component to their analysis of the.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
Player all, right if you're just joining, us and they'll
get rob final thoughts here in a, second just joining
us baseball game just Ended manners losing tonight To miami
and they were turned back home TO T Mobile. Parks
but if you're just joining, us just jumping in your.
Car you're listening To Sports radio ninety three point three
K RFM r draft, coverage which began here at The
Virginia Mason Athletics center eight hours and twelve minutes. Ago
rob with you and me at one o'clock in the.

(02:01:55):
Afternoon it continued With hugh And softy And hulgrind And
fain from three to. Seven then we jump back on at.
Seven seahawks did make three picks, today of, course Yesterday Gray,
zabel the guard From North Dakota state with the eighteenth overall.
Pick they traded up in the second round today to
get the third pick in the second, round thirty fifth.
Overall nick a man Of warri From South. Carolina he's a.
Safety he's a big. Safety Think Kyle, hamilton Think Cam

(02:02:17):
chancellor in terms of body. Type they picked. Him Elijah
arroyo at tight end In miami that you just talked,
about was taken with the fiftieth pick, overall eighteenth in
the second round and the final pick For seattle today
On day, Two round, three pick twenty eight ninety two
overall Quarterback Jalen milroe out Of. Alabama if you're just JOINING.
Us Shador sanders still has not been. Selected six quarterbacks

(02:02:39):
right have gone SIX i, believe so six quarterbacks and
No Shador. Sanders Jalen milroe is A Seattle seahawks. Rob
final thoughts from.

Speaker 5 (02:02:46):
TONIGHT i just think, that for, one it's just fascinating
THE Nfl.

Speaker 4 (02:02:51):
Draft The seahawks feel like deserve AN a OR b
whatever in high grade for taking a guard out Of
North Dakota state and then ending their night with the
quarterback out Of. ALABAMA i, mean just how funny that
is as far as just the you, know just how
how specialized this whole scouting process is a finding talent

(02:03:11):
wherever it might. Be one of the things That john
talked about And hugh references before about The Elijah royal
the tight end OR x, receiver you know that had
he not suffered that that knee, injury then then possibly
he would have been a top fifteen. Pick and there
are definitely those those highs of highs With Jaln monroe

(02:03:32):
that he has first round. Traits AND i think you
can make an argument that The seahawks got four first
round athletes in this draft so, far and that to
me is about as exciting as it possibly can get
for A seahawks squad that frankly needed some difference makers
considering the fact that they no longer have A Dk
metcalf Or Tyler. LOCKETT i just love the fact that
after you you lose arguably the most physically gifted player

(02:03:55):
this franchise has ever seen IN Dk, metcalf that you
come back and you get the most physically gifted QUARTERBACK
i think this franchise ever. Said and now that's not
to say That Jaylen monroe is ever going to be
anything close to some of the greats that this franchise
has been lucky enough to have play the quarterback. Position
but still the upside with him is so much THAT
i think That seahawk fans should be able to go

(02:04:16):
to sleep tonight pretty excited about this.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
Club all, Right so tomorrow it starts at nine. Am
does the fourth round rounds, four, five, six and Seven
seattle with a pick in the, fourth, two in the,
fifth two and the, Seventh we'll be here starting at
nine am tomorrow morning with those. Picks rob will join,
Me Greg bell will be with us as. Well big
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about the. Picks if you missed anything, today these guys
had a great interview With Shane, beemer right coach From South.

(02:05:01):
Carolina we'll. Talk we'll probably hear a little bit of.
That we'll hear From Jel milro. Tomorrow we'll get all
the picks for. You we'll break it all. Down we'll
start at nine am and we'll finish sometime late, afternoon
myself And rob from nine to, noon With Greg bell
chiming In Chuck powell at, noon and Then Chris Kidd
Anderson hurst will put a wrap up on the wrap
up show late tomorrow. Afternoon, hugh you're, Done you're, Finished.

Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
Rocket, Roll thank. You good to be with, you.

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Dude we've both of.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
You, yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
Fun we have done this for a long time. Brother,
yeah we, have AND i feel like. GOOD i think
the three of us have sat here during The Russell
wilson selection in twenty. Twelve what are they? Doing, man
it's just Signed Matt. Flynn why did they draft for
the short quarterback to to other? ONES l nine.

Speaker 6 (02:05:40):
My?

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
First, yeah we've both the three of us have been
doing it for a while AND i appreciate you coming up.
Here all, right that's You. Millan we're, Done we're out of.
Here Anderson, hurst great, Job, jessman superstars always, yes just always.
Start we got a lot for you. Tomorrow join us
at nine. Am until, then good night, everybody