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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, Maury keeps you Bury beg chased by.
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Winner's long hole, walks Flosi, both target to Coby Bryant
and there goes Coby Bryant. What a house club for
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
What a wild season this has been for the Seattle Seahawks.
They have gone from first place at three and zero,
then they went to last place, and now they're back
at least right now they're back, pending the outcome of
the Rams game coming up tonight that we'll have for
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you on ninety three point three KJFM. They're in first
place again at six and five in the NFC West
after what was one of the more impressive defensive performance
since the lob Era. I mean this one ranked right
up there with the Shermans and the Wagners and the
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Thomases and the Bennetts. It was just a tremendous defensive
performance from a team now that has put together put
together three consecutive very very good defensive performances, two in victories,
one in a loss to the Rams at all three
against division rivals, and we're here to talk about it
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for the next hour or so leading into Sunday Night football.
Good afternoons, Seahawks get a win sixteen to six over
the Arizona Cardinals. Dick Fane with you. Anders Hurst is
back in the studios in Seattle, Hubrey Lovemillan is going
to join us in a few moments, and you know,
there's there's a lot to get to, Anders but let's
start with the defense you played, the defensive highlights and
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I mean team defense. And then also an individual performance
by Leonard Williams, which I mean, I gotta think up
up since maybe the Devin Witherspoon game against the Giants
on Monday Night football. I mean, these are two of
the best individual performances we've seen by a Seahawks defender
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in years and years.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, and I'm trying to think the last time I
remember one singular defensive lineman in the backfield that often
in a Seahawks game and a Seahawks uniform before, and
it's hard for me to remember one that was on
the outside from the inside. He was stopping the run
getting to Kyler Murray, who hasn't been sacked that much
this year. That's another thing. So yeah, it's it's been
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kind of a kind of a road leading up to now,
but I think the defense is finally hitting their stride.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The stat sheet for Leonard Williams tonight, and you're right,
number ninety nine was living in the Arizona backfield. Six tackles,
three of them solo, two and a half sacks, three
tackles for loss, a pass defended, and four quarterback hits.
I mean, just a stat sheet stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
They could have had a strip sack in there too.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Could have been a strip sack in there as well,
And I'm sure played a big part in the in
the pick six because that defensive line was furious. Obviously
Witherspoon was the guy that got in Kyler Murray's face,
but man, oh man, just a tremendous performance by the
Seahawks defense and one that you know, we've seen this
defense be Ben be successful in the bend, but don't
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break Riety. And this wasn't the bend, but don't break Friday.
This was the Hey, we are schemed up for you, Kyler,
and we are ready to come after you. What do
you have? And Kyler Murray could not answer. They did
not score a touchdown? And how about I loved it
when they put the stat up that the Arizona Cardinals
were perfect on the year scoring touchdowns in the red zone.
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I was like, great timing on that stat, Thank you
Fox very much and make you let's go. I love
the broadcaster jinks right there as the Seahawks got the stop.
But that really the story of the game, story number
one of the game. Obviously the defense story number two
of the game. And you know how, you know how
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in Hawaiian aloha means hello and.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Goodbye, right, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think the phrase Geno being Gino means something absolutely
horrific and something tremendous yea all at the same time.
Because we saw Geno being Gino where he could very
easily have gotten a first down using his legs and
instead he just tries to make too much happen, and
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we have seen that game after game after aim with
the crushing red zone interceptions by Geno Smith and then
just spinning moving out, just using his athleticism and then
firing down the field on an unbelievable play extending the drive.
I mean, that is that's Gino. I mean, you have
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quarterbacks that are in the middle of the pack in
the NFL that you know, all they can do is
pretty much just kind of run an offense, kind of
manage an offense, and and those quarterbacks you can win
to a certain level with those type of quarterbacks, Guys
that are never gonna win your game, but they're never
gonna lose your game. Zoe is the exact opposite. He
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is a middle of the road quarterback in the in
this league that can put his team on his back
at times and win football games by himself. And then
he can absolutely no matter what is going around in
no matter how good everything else is going he can
lose football games all by himself, like he did in
the Rams games. So it's it's just it's maddening. And
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yet we usually we did in the Rams game, but
we usually have a good feeling coming out of the
game because Geno is at his best when he lets
his reaction take over, and in the last five six
minutes of games is usually when he's making those amazing
plays like he's done the last time.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, and it seems like now timing is everything too,
because he had a couple bad plays in the forty
nine er Game two, but when the team needed him most,
he made the plays that he needed to and the
same thing today. The bed zone interception in the back
of the end zone not good, not good at all.
But you know, when the team needed him to go
up by two scores it was thirteen to six, they
had some crucial third down conversions with DK and then
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getting the two score. Game kind of icted there, and
he was good when the team needed him to be.
I think he thrives in those situations. So, like you said,
it always kind of seems like he comes out on
the slightly better side feeling well at least.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, but it's gonna be I think it's.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Gonna come back to by them eventually, but hopefully hopefully
it doesn't. Hopefully we keep living this high.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And it turned in the game turned into kind of
a knockdown, drag out defensive game. Which it didn't have
to be because was that a touchdown on the Leonard
Williams hit where Kyler Murray's ball the ball kind of
looked like it was slipping out of his hands when
and I was actually surprised Anders that they overturned that call.
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We were texting back and forth, and I was totally
with you to me, that play is whatever it's called
on the field. If it's called incomplete on the field,
it's incomplete. If it's called a fumble and a touchdown
on the field, it's a fumble in a touchdown. I
just didn't see enough either way to kind of overturn that,
and they did. And then the other touchdown that wasn't
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a touchdown was Harrison on the pylon. So I mean,
this could have turned into a totally different game where
we had multiple touchdowns that we didn't have in the
first half.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, and I'm with you on the strip sack from
Leonard Williams. That could have been another defensive touchdown, which
would have been an even bigger stamp on the game
from Leonard Williams. But yeah, it's different because Kyler Murray
kind of throws with his body where he turns his body,
but doesn't really use his arm that much, and that's
what I kind of felt like was happening. His arm
wasn't moving forward, and then when it finally did, the
ball was already out. So that's why I thought they
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could have just left the call in the field. But
it's a tough situation for the ref to be in
because they're asked to if it's even close to just
let it go so they can kind of come back
and review it. So either way, it's it's a tough call.
But I think they kind of made it up with
the Marvin Harrison because I thought if you hit the
pylon with your other foot, that counts as in bounds,
is it not? That's yeah, maybe I'm a little I
don't know if until where the ball was though, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean the ball has to cross the plane as well,
so I mean it and I didn't see an angle
that definitively, definitively said that. But we got a lot
to get to in a short amount of time because
we got ahead to Philadelphia and the Rams at five
twenty tonight, so we were gonna take time. We're gonna
bring Hubreed love Millan on. He's gonna break down everything defense.
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He's gonna break down everything, Gino Smith. All sorts of
things to talk about in the next forty five minutes
of the twelfth Man Post Game Show. Dick Fayan with you,
Anders Hurst and Hugh Breed love Millon on ninety three
point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Now back to the twelfth Man postgame Show, the Seattle
Seahawks on your home for the twelfth Man Sports Radio
ninety three point three kJ RFM.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The first place Seattle Seahawks. Wow, feels pretty good to
say that six and five now leading the NFC West
for at least the next four hours. That could change
if the Rams get a victory tonight. Go Eagles on
Sunday Night Football Right here on ninety three point three
kJ RFM. Join now by Hugh Breed love Millon. Hugh
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knock Down, dragout, slobber, knocker one touchdown football Man, give
me your general thoughts of what you just watched the
last three and a half hours.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Leonard Williams, I promised myself the first two words out
of my mouth where you know we're I just gonna
get it, because I've had times in the past where
I write the notes and I'd ever get to it.
But you just look at the defense. Look, this is
a team in Arizona with a veteran quarterback, you know,
a veteran franchise quarterback that came in here. Now points
are the name of the game, obviously, right, And the
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Cardinals were thirteenth in the NFL. Not extraordinary, but in
the upper half is a first place team. And for
them the Seahawks to hold them to twelve points, you know,
only three for twelve on third down, to play that
kind of red zone defense, This is a team that
came into it. We talked last week they're the only
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team in the NFL that was perfect in gold to
go situations.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
You got a gold to go stop. So they're no
longer perfect.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I just I think you're you hold teams to single
digits and you loed them. But getting back to Leonard Williams,
I mean, this dude was just I don't know if
he just had a baby or if he's got long
lost family that's never seen a game that flew in.
Something was just lit under that cat, because I mean
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he had he was fourth on the team in tackles.
He had two and a half sacks, He had three
tackles for lost, four quarterback hits a pass defense. I mean,
he was, you know, he's he's legitimately in line for
NFC Defensive Player of the Week.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
If he doesn't get it, then somebody else is going
to have to do something really big. So Big Cat
ninety nine, hell of a job, and the defense and
then a unbelievable clutch drive Dick in the fourth quarter,
just you know, to come out and get your longest
drive of the season at eight minutes and twelve seconds
and have three big third down conversions.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You know, just when they needed to be clutched. They
were clutched.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
The kicker right down Broadway fifty yards with almost as
much pressure as you want. Dixon had a hell of
a game. So I'm just a happy see our fan
Dick right now.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It should be. I mean, anytime you get a double
digit win against a division opponent that was in first place,
a team that was favored over you, You've now won as
an underdog two consecutive weeks against division opponents, and you know,
going into this game, Hugh, there was a couple of
things that kept rattling through my mind, and one was
a story from a couple of a year or two
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ago when Kyler Murray was going through his contract situation.
Remember they had to put that silly clause that you
have to read your playbook clause and you can't play
so much call of duty clause in the end the contract. Yeah,
And I kind of contrasted that image with when I've
heard Hugh Millen talk about the how much respect he
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has for the mind of Mike McDonald, and I just thought, God,
it kind of sounds like a mismatch waiting to happen,
Mike McDonald's mind against Kyler Murray's lack of preparation. So
how much how much scheming and confusion did you see
for Kyler Murray today caused by Mike McDonald.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, I think that there was a lot of movement
out there. They had played a lot of big nickel
rays on Jenkins. You know, it was good to have
him back that. You know, they weren't flawless, They missed
some tackles, and really what they did is they forced
you know, I would say this, Mike McDonald will probably say, Look,
if we can shut down one phase of an opponent's offense,
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then you know you gotta be damn good to beat
us with just the other phase. And you know, I
didn't know how it was going to play out. The
Cardinals came in in many statistics the best running team
in the NFL. They were number one in big plays
in the rushing game. And here you have now Kyler
Murray had nine yards. That means that Cardinal running backs
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had forty yards and the you know the average, I mean,
you know, the their best guy, Benson, you know, eighteen yards.
That was their best running back.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So yeah, and there to their number one back who
had the most carries, James Connor had seven carries for
eight yards.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah, And so just in terms of average, So you
take James Connor, their starting tail back, think of that.
I mean, I'm gonna just let that sit in one
point one yard per per rush attempt for a team
that came in that everybody feared that how they were
going to run the football on you. And with the
thread of Kyler Murray as an extra guy in the
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gap in terms of your run fits. So this is something.
Now the Seahawks, we just when are they gonna stop
the run? I mean, they look it's it's a it's
a short little duration. But we got three straight weeks.
Now that where they are stoning the run and they
are playing that they're building the wall, they're playing gap
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and a half where they're you know, they'll they'll play
to one shade of an offensive lineman, but they won't penetrate.
There's still be in a position to react into the
opposite gap, and that bogs down the running lanes. That
allows the linebackers to flow. You have, you know, Spoon
just jumping off the page once again, jumping off the
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field in terms of his competitiveness.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
And and so Kyler Murray gets two hundred.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
And eighty five yards I alluded to, you can let
you know, you can give him one phase, well, two
hundred and eighty five yards fair amount. Thirty seven attempts,
that's under eight yards per you know, it's like seven
point seven. You can live with that, particularly when you
see that it's a seventy seven passer rating, no touchdowns
in an interception, and.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
You really kind of held down the big plays.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
I mean, the Cardinals came into this game tied for
twenty seventh in big plays produced in the passing game.
So they got a hell of a tight end mcbriden.
They've got a hell of a talent in Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
But who else is there? Right? Who else do you
even like.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Like after Michael Wilson or Door Tran.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
They were just they were just guys. They were just
non existent guys.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
And so you know.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
McBride's sorry, it was McBride's twelve for one thirty three.
Was that just simply because hey, we got somebody's gonna
be we're taking this away in that away, so somebody's
going to be open. Is that pretty much the situation there.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
I just sat there and I tabulated every one of
his catches. My son through for him at his pro day.
So I've I've been aware of this kid for a
long time. McBride hell of a talent and uh, you know,
likely to be a pro bowler, you know, slash second
team All Pro type guy. But look, he caught balls
all over the field. He caught otbs over the balls,
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little quick hitters where he's the primer. He caught intermediate
intermediate uh over routes, which are intermediate crossing routes. He
ran sale routes where he started to cross then broke
out to the sideline. He ran checkdowns where where they
were you know, Murray was looked down field, looked downfield,
he blocked and then delay into the flat. Hit him
in the flat. He'd miss tackles. They threw bubble screens
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to him. Off the RPO game. They got the ball
to him in every conceivable way other.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Than in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
So you know, look at he was targeted fifteen times.
He had twelve receptions one hundred and thirty three yards.
He said, a Cardinal record. I mean, Cardinal's been around
a long time. Haven't the Cardinals been around, you know,
like Cardinals and then the Saint Louis car I mean,
I think they've been around as long as the Giants,
like for a century. And we just saw the tight
end record. So but that's fine. It's like you give
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if you just give the point, its just like, but
don't let their other guy beat, you know. And whoever
there ever got other guys Marvin Harrison had three catches
for forty seven yards.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
You can absolutely live with that.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
And and by the way, whoever fourteen is who caught
that Willie May's that was one of them. That's got
to be an spi uh type. Yeah, man alive. I mean,
you can't glove a guy any better than that. But
you know, if a guy, if a guy can walk
into your stadium and make that catch, you almost just say, hey,
had they won and that was the key play of
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the game, then then you tip your hat to them.
But but an event it was. You know, look, partners
are a good team, not elite. They're exactly what you
had to do. And what I loved is is I
mean the crowd was there. They weren't selling their tickets.
I think the crowd was salty from a week of
dealing with the cyclone that that that that was like
a sea type of a crowd and and recognizing, hey,
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you want to come into our our stadium and and uh,
we're a little bit of an underdog.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
I'm not talking Vegas.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I don't even know what the point spread was, but
but you're one up on us in the division. That's
where Seattle crowds are their best. So I thought the
energy was just palpable in terms of how the defense.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Was flying around.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
As I said, I think Spoon and Leonard Williams were
the the catalysts in that regard. You had steady play,
Ernest Jones in there. I mean, what they've done to
clean up. Their run defense is nothing sort of well,
I'm in a happy mood, you know, miraculous comes to mind.
I don't want to be hyperbole, but it's certainly impressive
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what we've seen over the last few weeks, and it
continued today.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Remind us again, Mike McDonald's first year is defensive corney
of the Ravens. What was his points per game ranking
first half of the first season and second half of
the first season.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Yeah, well, I probably said it on about nine different
times on the different shows on KGr through the first
several weeks, and they were seventeenth and in the first
eight weeks, and then they were number one in weeks
nine and beyond. And that goes for that goes for
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what was it third down? I don't have it right
in front of me, but I said it so often.
Some of that I got. I know this the three
stats that you look at, they were seventeenth, eighteenth, and
nineteenth halfway through the season. And this is the Baltimore
Ravens twenty twenty two season, the season after Mike McDonald
had had that one year stop at Michigan where he
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took the Wolverines from ninety fourth in scoring defense giving
up thirty four points per game to seventh in scoring
defense giving up seventeen points a game one year, and
big brother, you know, Harbaugh, John just said, hey, Jimmy,
I need that dude back. So he brought him back
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in twenty twenty two, and after half a year, there
were the Ravens sitting there a little below the median,
as I said, seventeen, eighteen and nineteenth and the most
important stats. And then they went to one one in
three over the duration of the second half of the year.
You know, it marinated. It takes a little while. And look,
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I'm not saying they've arrived in that regard. You know,
somebody go drop four to seventy five on him and
thirty five points and then, you know, and then we
all look like fools. But we can we can start
to get optimistic and say, hey, look, this guy has
has a vision for how a defense looks.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And he look what we just did you in the
in the last in the last three games against division opponents,
all three of them at the time that we played
them playoff contenders, and two of the three still playoff contenders.
The forty nine ers don't look like they are anymore.
But the other two do you have held? You held
the Rams to nineteen. I know they scored twenty six,
but Gino threw a pick six that ain't on the defense.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
And the touchdown was in overtime, so and the touchdown
was in So they held.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
To thirteen over sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Great call. Thirteen points over sixty minutes to the Rams,
seventeen points to the Niners, six points without a touchdown
of the cardinal. That's what this defense has done in
the last three weeks. Leonard Williams, how is he being
Is he being used differently? Is he is he at
a different position? Is he being used? What is making
him so much better this season, particularly in the last
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month or so than what we saw what we saw
last year with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yeah, I think that you're just creating some confusion. Yes,
he got a sack as lined up as the right
defensive end. Today, he got a sack where you know,
he's inside pressure. But but they'll do inside what we
call inside games. Where he had with Jaron Reid on
one of his sacks, where hey, it's just a little
twist inside twists. Usually you think of a twist to say, okay,
the tackle in the end on one side of the
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ball are going to run a twist.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
But what they'll do is they'll run. They'll keep the ends.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
They won't have the ends run the twist because you
got to contain a guy like Kyler Murray. When you
run a stunt, uh, what's called a T TE or ET. Okay,
follow me in this, The end tackle would be an ET.
How about that he comes before the T, So the
end goes before and then the tackle loops around. If
you do TE or ET stunts and the only difference
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is who goes first. Those are basically x's on one
side of the offensive line. Okay, by the defenders. We're
talking about defensive tactics here. Okay, But when you run
those stints, whether it's TE or E T, then the
guy who lined up as a defensive tackle, he now
has contained.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
He's on the outside.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
So if Kyler Murray wants to break the pocket, you've
got a slow guy chasing Kyler Murray.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
So what makes more sense to me?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
And when you watch on at least some of these pressures,
and I mean they're so dog gone many I can't
wait to break them down.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
But okay, let.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The end stay up on the tackles, leave them alone
because you need the athlete on the perimeter to keep
Kyler Murray in in the pocket. But then you do
the game on the inside, you know called a T
T tuntunt.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
Did I just say that this is what happened when
you're excited.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Yeah, a TT stunt where the tackle two tackles loop
and and and you get a sack out of that
with Leonard Williams. So yeah, you're just you're showing more,
making more communication more of a problem at home.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
You know, the the uh, the communication piece.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Should be a problem for your opponent with with those
type of stunts and and but but he was. He
was just quick off the ball. You know, you have
scraping sparking where you go inside gap and you have
them assigned so you get movement instead of just trying
to uh stay stationary.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
So there's some schematic things they're doing.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
But I I just think there was a guy that
I don't know what was in his cheerios today, but
that guy was just playing with emotion and force. And look,
there's too many guys who played too well to just
you know, do the whole post game on Leonard Williams.
But then anyway, I think he deserves his flowers, and
we're trying to give it to him.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No question about. We're gonna take time out and we
come back. We are going to talk about yet another
game where Geno taketh away and then Geno giveth And
it usually is whatever order the giveth comes in. If
it's last, then we usually win. If it's first, it
would usually lose. And uh, he was able to giveth
at the end of the football game. Once again, we'll
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talk about Geno's performance with you coming up next. Twelve
Man post game show in ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Now back to the twelfth Man postgame show the Seattle
Seahawks on your home for the twelfth Man Sports Radio
ninety three point three JJRFM.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
In the last couple of games, Smith underneath the Smith
and Jake Bond, He's got a lot of real.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Estate in front of him.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Good block by Cody White, and it's first down a
goal for Seattle on the first pig play for either
team in this first half.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Look at that shift, tell it the line.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Smith and Chickle touchdown. The JSN Drive game. Seattle a
seven to three lead on Arizona, they would take that
lead into the half. Dick Vane Hubrit Love Millan with
you twelve man post game show after a sixteen to six,
hard fought, gritty, defensive minded football game that the Seahawks
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win in a snap. That shift dreadful four game home
losing streak that was just driving us all crazy, also
snapped the Arizona Cardinals four game winning streak in the process. Hugh,
let's go back to the second quarter of those two plays.
You just toured the tunnel screen as the pat The
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offensive line was a sieve in the first half. Ryan
Grebwood goes with the tunnel screen and it works the
perfection for forty six yards and sets up the touchdown
pass the JA. Yeah, I think there's through it.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
I think there's a lot of coaches that you wouldn't
find a universal agreement on the terminology. I think a
lot of coaches would say that the tunnel screen is
to the widest or the mid uh maybe one end
from the outside and you're you're working in. I think
a lot of coaches would call that a middle screen. Okay,
but uh, you know that we're just talking terminology about
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But it's important to me, because when you get you
get a man to man.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Really where it all.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Happened was whoever ninety nine is the defensive lineman for
the Cardinals falling back into the play, jays N had
to make him miss. But other than that that, all
the blocks set up really nice and just you know,
beautiful call. But had that ninety nine made that tackle,
you know, it had been a three yard game.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, and it would have been third and seven. What
was the other one, what was the touch the touchdown
on third and goal. So it took you all the
way down to the four and then uh, Seattle got
the touchdown on JSN in the corner there on third
and goal of the three huge play.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Yeah, And and they just they busted that coverage. I mean,
they had a DK clearing out the corner and they're
playing zone and whoever forty three is, he's on the flat,
he has to match in zone coverage. He's just standing
flat footed looking at the ball, and he's got a
he's got to match what we call match number two
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to the flat. Number two is the guy lined up
second from the outside. Is we said DK's going to
clear out the corner and then Jsn's gonna run to
the flat. Well, they've got to have a even though
its zone, they've got to have a a zone defender,
what we call the curl flat defender. In that instance,
he's he's got to have the flat and forty three
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for the Cardinals just absolutely blew a fuse. But that's
what you know, if you're if you're doing enough things
with formations, movements, personnel, what have you, and getting guys
spread out, then you can create that kind of of
a confusion.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
I mean, that's why you do it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It's like what you know, you're a you coach basketball,
you know when when you see the opponent travel when
you do full court, you know, you look at the
refe you say, hey, that's why we're doing the full
court right, Like if you're not gonna call travel like
we're we're doing it for that yeah, and and right
and so uh and so you know.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
We do all the the you know, the all the.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Things that I just described with trying to get people confused,
and it's to get that type of a reaction to
get get a walk in touch him. That's when an
offensive coordinator just has a big smile because that's not
the players that's the scheme.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
That's that. That's right.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
That's not one guy, you know, just out jumping another.
That's like, wait a minute, he's unblocked. He's run totally
running unblocked. I mean, Gino could have blindfolded himself. But anyway, Yeah, cool,
cool play.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
There got a touch down that was a four point play.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It was a huge play absolutely, and took the seven
to three lead. Then they got the ball and had
a fairly decent drive going that started at their thirty
got to the Arizona thirty two, and I gotta be honest,
I didn't love the play call even before the fumble
on third and two at the Arizona thirty two at
twelve nineteen left, I said, hey, you're in field goal
range already. Don't take a negative play. Run the football here.
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Three things happen if you run the football here. You
either get a first down. You either are stopped so
close to the first down marker that you're just a
quarterback sneak away from getting the first down, or your
stop for no gain or loss a gain and air
loss of a yard or two, and you're still in
plenty of easy Jason Myers field goal range to kick
a field goal. That's why I wanted to run there.
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He didn't. He decided to pass. Gino Smith dropped back
with sack for a ten yard loss and fumbled the
ball and got it back, so at least they were
able to punt it away. That was the first mistake
by Gino Smith. I think that was maybe contributed with
the with the Ryan Grubb call there on the on
the third down, and then just Geno kind of went
into this early second half Geno mode that we saw
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against the Rams and we saw against the Niners, just
the inexplicable decisions, an interception and then a near interception
that was overturned because of replay. Hugh, I mean, is
there is there anything now that you've seen it for
time and time and time again, can you put it
make any sense into when Geno goes into these modes
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where it's just inexplicable play after inexplicable play over a
short period of time in second.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Halfs Well, I'll just say that you're trusting them with
the keys of the car, and you're trusting him not
to crash it. And you know, I don't know how
many times do you have to see you guy crash it.
Now you're just palmed to the forehead on that first
play of the fourth quarter, and he appeared to audibleize
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I'm gonna give it another but it appeared like he
was changing the play. The Cardinals backed out and they
played a three deep four under zone. Now in that
the combination they had with JSN running a speed out,
a twelve yard speed out to the sideline and DK
running off the coverage. Notice all these times I'm talking
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about DK running off the coverage. Ye, that is a
good That is a good route what they checked to
if indeed they did check that. That speed out by
number two again counting outside in you know, it's a
takeoff by one, speed out by two. That's good against
Cover one, that's man and man. Good against Cover zero
if you if you can block the safety. It's good
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against a four deep three under zone because the uh,
the the outside linebacker has has to run with him
and you'll usually or even if it's a nickel, you'll
usually get outside leverage on an outbreaking route. So there's
there's a lot of routes I could say it's good,
but it's not good against Cover three. What Arizona played,
particularly when they play what's called the country style of
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cover three.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
What does country mean?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
When you have a match a pattern match cover three,
it it's like, hey, you tell the widest guys. Think
of a baseball outfield and infield minus the pitcher and catcher.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
That's what cover three is. The outfield is the three.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Deep and the the infield is is so you're you're
focusing on who's the first baseman?
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Got me, what's his responsibility? Now?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Sometimes the first baseman will run through the seam, he'll
run through the gap of you know, center field and
and and the right fielder and and you'll clear that
out area out because he's pattern matching. But country country
cover three means you're just going spot dropping. You just
dropping in the airs, your a yard outside the hash
marks and the hook zones the middle of the second
baseman and and the uh and the shortstop and then
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the outside guys uh, the third basement, first mate smith.
They just try and get outside, you know, depending on
where the ball is on the hash you know inside
the numberers are on the numbers or just outside the numbers.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Right, So there's there's landmarks.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
And when they're doing landmark cover three, what what some
coaches call country cover three. You're not gonna get that
route that that they audiblized. You're not gonna get the
speed out to number two. So when he uh gino,
he went outside the pocket. Now, Tyler, he's going to
a vacated area. And look, there was a time where
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he was open. But to keep the analogy, the first
baseman recognized the the the the breakdown, and he sprinted
back to get in that gap between the center fielder
and the right fielder, and he picked it off. And
so if you're gonna playoff script and make a four point,
you know that that that cost you four points, yep,
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because you know you had you had three points right right?
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Uh well, I guess cause you say it costs you three.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
But if he runs it, you got a first down,
you could get.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
A I thought that, Dick.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I thought that when I first saw it, But when
I saw it in the replay, I don't think he
would have got it. Okay, I think the second basement
that was keeping the BASEketball people.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
I'd say the hook zone defender.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
But since I've already created a picture for you, the
second baseman was widening and he was ready to He
had a good angle to to run him before he
would have got I think I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'll take a look at it again. And then but
then he makes Hugh, let's move on to the miraculous
play he makes. I mean third and eight at at
Seattle's own thirty two yard line, six thirty eight left
in the game, still very much a football game, and
and he just then he shows how great Geno Smith
can be with the past the DK for eighteen yards
in a first down.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Well, I think I think we got to get the
third and seven from the twenty three first there's let's
about three third downs in that bill, okay, in sequence,
So so before we just said third and seven at
the twenty three, throws the out route to Smith and
jig But it's the same route that he had on
the interception that I just cry. But instead of having
one guy clear out, there's two guys clearing out DK
and and Tyler, and they're bringing in a blitz. This
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is a cover zero casino blitz. Here's the here's the
beauty of it is that they're playing cover zero, so
that the defender playing man and man on Jackson, Smith
and Jigba. He's got to honor the inside breaking route first,
because Smith and Jigba is number three. What I mean
by that again counting outside in, so the the safety
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and I'm gonna get to the personnel in the second.
He's got to line up because the easier completion is
to cross your face into a post and in breaking route.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
So he's got to get inside leverage.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
So we already have advanced Ryan Grubs up there in
the press conference going, I got an outbreaking route on
an in on a guy playing cover zeros, just as
long as we can get minimal protection. Credit Lincoln Tomlinson
coming off off of his man to get a piece
of a Buddha baker on the blitz and that that
b gap. But so they blocked it just well enough.
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But here's the thing, and we talk about DK's presence.
You know who was covering man the man on Jackson
Smith and Jigla Dad Ran Taylor Demerson, rookie fourth round
draft pick this year, who was averaging before today twenty
seven snaps a game, and to who today had sixty two.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
So I'm just telling you what Ryan Grubb was doing
when he saw number forty two lined up inside shade,
having to play inside out this is This is a
matchup where you just say game, set, match for this play,
there's no way that dude is covering him on an
outbreaking route and then gino with a guy in his face.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
Even though it wasn't a comeback route.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
He threw it because he couldn't get velocity on it,
because he was retreating, he couldn't get his body into it.
He pulled Jackson, Smith and Jigbab back to the line
of scrimmage, and Smith and Jigba has some of the
best instincts for coming back to the ball of any
young receiver I've seen in a long damn time. Yeah,
and so just so it turned into like a comeback
even though in an ideal world with no pressure, when
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you do that routes on air, it ends up being
a parallel speed break.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
You speed out, meaning not sharp out.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
You speed out, and then your exit angle coming out
of your your release, you're a parallel to the line
of scrimmage, perpendicular to the sideline, and then you smoke
the ball to the sideline if you're a quarterback. But
this one didn't pull them parallel to the line. Scream
pulled him back. So you get a big completion to
Smith and Jigba, and I know we run in time.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
What we're gonna take a quick time out. We'll get you.
We'll get the final thoughts on that, on that big
play that he made, and wrap things up and take
it to Sunday Night Football next on the twelfth Man
Post Game Show on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Now back to the twelfth Man postgame show.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
The Seattle Seahawk on.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
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Speaker 8 (38:56):
Hey, I've sat here for the last five minutes during
that break, and I have rewound and played, and rewound,
and played, and rewound and played six thirty eight left
to go in the game third and eight, and I've
watched it like ten times.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I'm gonna watch it again right now. As I'm describing
to the fans third down and eight, Gino Smith gets
rushed up the middle pretty much dead to rights, steps
to his left and then escapes to his right. Then
throws side armed twenty nine yards in the air because
he's ten yards behind the line of scrimmage when he
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lets it go in between two defenders to a waiting
DK Metcalf on the run and allows Seattle to milk
the rest of the clock and kick the game winning
field goal. Hey, that was one of the better plays
I've ever seen Geno make. Tell us what you saw there.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Yeah, it was this big time, particularly in light of
the fact that he had thrown that interception early in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
That's a lot of guts.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
And as you said, we talked about the et stunt
and you don't want to have a tackle, you know,
a big body guy out on the edge. Well, they
run a tea stunt, but they have Xavier Collins, a
linebacker as the defensive tackle. So when he replaces and
goes to the outside, now the defensive end Xavier Thomas,
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he comes in and Seattle on the right side of
the line did a poor job of communicating and handling that.
So it's just a free runner essentially, and Gino makes
him miss, as you said, gets to the outside and
then it's his zone coverage and he has to he
has to.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Whistle that in there.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Almost would would would say, you know, you mentioned the
two defenders the underneath guys, there's a safety coming from
the the top down and your your debt perception can
can betray you where you think, okay, like is he
deep enough? You know, you see it's almost like a
triangle the two guys in front and then and then
like a cone like the guy in the back. You say, okay,
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well how deep is he? So you got to you
got to assess that in in fractions of a second.
Almost was like, DK, do you want to wrap and
kind of come back down in between that hole to
to gain separation from that safety. But he gets he
gets whacked in the back. But you know, DK is
a big, strong dude, and he hung on and and
and I know, I know you're gonna try and take
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me out of But the third and four of the
draw play just real quick. Two young guys OLOI Timmy,
they do a six up, so they run a draw
and Oloid Timmy he's got to keep his guy from
crossing his face to his left. And then Christian Haynes, uh,
he's right there. They're running that gap, the strong eight
gap on the on the draw and both of those
guys have to block their guys inside out. That's the
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key thing inside out to allow that hole. And they
and they that was a that was a huge one
too to get that draw with Charbonnet on third and four,
So three huge third downs on that drive ends up
being eight twelve longest drive of the season, and then
your field goal kicker.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Hell, if there'd have been an upright in the middle
of the uprights, he would have hit it. Yeah, he
would have hit the middle of the of of the middle.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Upright like like that. That was just just awesome, awesome football.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Great stuff. Man, good all the way through, great defense
for four quarters. Gino makes the play at the end.
They have a nice, uh time sucking drive for that
field goal that you mentioned there, and they get it
done sixteen to six. And right now, as of this second,
they are in first place in the NFC West, all
by their lonesome. Yes, they're tied with Arizona, but they
have the first tiebreaker by virtue of that winover Arizona.
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I guess we're saying, go Eagles. It's kind of weird.
I never really root for the Eagles, but I'll root
for them tonight because they're taking on the La rams
At so far coming up next, Hugh will talk to
you tomorrow. We'll listen to you on the Monday morning quarterback.
All right, okaydans Man, that's Hugh Millen anders her stick
fane saying solo and every sol on everybody's stick fane
saying see you and go Eagles. This has been a
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, Maury keeps you Bury beg chased by.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Winner's long hole, walks Flosi, both target to Coby Bryant
and there goes Coby Bryant. What a house club for
Seattle and a Marshaw rich Ohmage.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What a wild season this has been for the Seattle Seahawks.
They have gone from first place at three and zero,
then they went to last place, and now they're back
at least right now they're back, pending the outcome of
the Rams game coming up tonight that we'll have for
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you on ninety three point three KJFM. They're in first
place again at six and five in the NFC West
after what was one of the more impressive defensive performance
since the lob Era. I mean this one ranked right
up there with the Shermans and the Wagners and the
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Thomases and the Bennetts. It was just a tremendous defensive
performance from a team now that has put together put
together three consecutive very very good defensive performances, two in victories,
one in a loss to the Rams at all three
against division rivals, and we're here to talk about it
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for the next hour or so leading into Sunday Night football.
Good afternoons, Seahawks get a win sixteen to six over
the Arizona Cardinals. Dick Fane with you. Anders Hurst is
back in the studios in Seattle, Hubrey Lovemillan is going
to join us in a few moments, and you know,
there's there's a lot to get to, Anders but let's
start with the defense you played, the defensive highlights and
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I mean team defense. And then also an individual performance
by Leonard Williams, which I mean, I gotta think up
up since maybe the Devin Witherspoon game against the Giants
on Monday Night football. I mean, these are two of
the best individual performances we've seen by a Seahawks defender
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in years and years.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, and I'm trying to think the last time I
remember one singular defensive lineman in the backfield that often
in a Seahawks game and a Seahawks uniform before, and
it's hard for me to remember one that was on
the outside from the inside. He was stopping the run
getting to Kyler Murray, who hasn't been sacked that much
this year. That's another thing. So yeah, it's it's been
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kind of a kind of a road leading up to now,
but I think the defense is finally hitting their stride.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The stat sheet for Leonard Williams tonight, and you're right,
number ninety nine was living in the Arizona backfield. Six tackles,
three of them solo, two and a half sacks, three
tackles for loss, a pass defended, and four quarterback hits.
I mean, just a stat sheet stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
They could have had a strip sack in there too.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Could have been a strip sack in there as well,
And I'm sure played a big part in the in
the pick six because that defensive line was furious. Obviously
Witherspoon was the guy that got in Kyler Murray's face,
but man, oh man, just a tremendous performance by the
Seahawks defense and one that you know, we've seen this
defense be Ben be successful in the bend, but don't
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break Riety. And this wasn't the bend, but don't break Friday.
This was the Hey, we are schemed up for you, Kyler,
and we are ready to come after you. What do
you have? And Kyler Murray could not answer. They did
not score a touchdown? And how about I loved it
when they put the stat up that the Arizona Cardinals
were perfect on the year scoring touchdowns in the red zone.
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I was like, great timing on that stat, Thank you
Fox very much and make you let's go. I love
the broadcaster jinks right there as the Seahawks got the stop.
But that really the story of the game, story number
one of the game. Obviously the defense story number two
of the game. And you know how, you know how
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in Hawaiian aloha means hello and.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Goodbye, right, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think the phrase Geno being Gino means something absolutely
horrific and something tremendous yea all at the same time.
Because we saw Geno being Gino where he could very
easily have gotten a first down using his legs and
instead he just tries to make too much happen, and
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we have seen that game after game after aim with
the crushing red zone interceptions by Geno Smith and then
just spinning moving out, just using his athleticism and then
firing down the field on an unbelievable play extending the drive.
I mean, that is that's Gino. I mean, you have
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quarterbacks that are in the middle of the pack in
the NFL that you know, all they can do is
pretty much just kind of run an offense, kind of
manage an offense, and and those quarterbacks you can win
to a certain level with those type of quarterbacks, Guys
that are never gonna win your game, but they're never
gonna lose your game. Zoe is the exact opposite. He
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is a middle of the road quarterback in the in
this league that can put his team on his back
at times and win football games by himself. And then
he can absolutely no matter what is going around in
no matter how good everything else is going he can
lose football games all by himself, like he did in
the Rams games. So it's it's just it's maddening. And
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yet we usually we did in the Rams game, but
we usually have a good feeling coming out of the
game because Geno is at his best when he lets
his reaction take over, and in the last five six
minutes of games is usually when he's making those amazing
plays like he's done the last time.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, and it seems like now timing is everything too,
because he had a couple bad plays in the forty
nine er Game two, but when the team needed him most,
he made the plays that he needed to and the
same thing today. The bed zone interception in the back
of the end zone not good, not good at all.
But you know, when the team needed him to go
up by two scores it was thirteen to six, they
had some crucial third down conversions with DK and then
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getting the two score. Game kind of icted there, and
he was good when the team needed him to be.
I think he thrives in those situations. So, like you said,
it always kind of seems like he comes out on
the slightly better side feeling well at least.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, but it's gonna be I think it's.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Gonna come back to by them eventually, but hopefully hopefully
it doesn't. Hopefully we keep living this high.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And it turned in the game turned into kind of
a knockdown, drag out defensive game. Which it didn't have
to be because was that a touchdown on the Leonard
Williams hit where Kyler Murray's ball the ball kind of
looked like it was slipping out of his hands when
and I was actually surprised Anders that they overturned that call.
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We were texting back and forth, and I was totally
with you to me, that play is whatever it's called
on the field. If it's called incomplete on the field,
it's incomplete. If it's called a fumble and a touchdown
on the field, it's a fumble in a touchdown. I
just didn't see enough either way to kind of overturn that,
and they did. And then the other touchdown that wasn't
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a touchdown was Harrison on the pylon. So I mean,
this could have turned into a totally different game where
we had multiple touchdowns that we didn't have in the
first half.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, and I'm with you on the strip sack from
Leonard Williams. That could have been another defensive touchdown, which
would have been an even bigger stamp on the game
from Leonard Williams. But yeah, it's different because Kyler Murray
kind of throws with his body where he turns his body,
but doesn't really use his arm that much, and that's
what I kind of felt like was happening. His arm
wasn't moving forward, and then when it finally did, the
ball was already out. So that's why I thought they
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could have just left the call in the field. But
it's a tough situation for the ref to be in
because they're asked to if it's even close to just
let it go so they can kind of come back
and review it. So either way, it's it's a tough call.
But I think they kind of made it up with
the Marvin Harrison because I thought if you hit the
pylon with your other foot, that counts as in bounds,
is it not? That's yeah, maybe I'm a little I
don't know if until where the ball was though, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean the ball has to cross the plane as well,
so I mean it and I didn't see an angle
that definitively, definitively said that. But we got a lot
to get to in a short amount of time because
we got ahead to Philadelphia and the Rams at five
twenty tonight, so we were gonna take time. We're gonna
bring Hubreed love Millan on. He's gonna break down everything defense.
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He's gonna break down everything, Gino Smith. All sorts of
things to talk about in the next forty five minutes
of the twelfth Man Post Game Show. Dick Fayan with you,
Anders Hurst and Hugh Breed love Millon on ninety three
point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Now back to the twelfth Man postgame Show, the Seattle
Seahawks on your home for the twelfth Man Sports Radio
ninety three point three kJ RFM.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The first place Seattle Seahawks. Wow, feels pretty good to
say that six and five now leading the NFC West
for at least the next four hours. That could change
if the Rams get a victory tonight. Go Eagles on
Sunday Night Football Right here on ninety three point three
kJ RFM. Join now by Hugh Breed love Millon. Hugh
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knock Down, dragout, slobber, knocker one touchdown football Man, give
me your general thoughts of what you just watched the
last three and a half hours.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Leonard Williams, I promised myself the first two words out
of my mouth where you know we're I just gonna
get it, because I've had times in the past where
I write the notes and I'd ever get to it.
But you just look at the defense. Look, this is
a team in Arizona with a veteran quarterback, you know,
a veteran franchise quarterback that came in here. Now points
are the name of the game, obviously, right, And the
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Cardinals were thirteenth in the NFL. Not extraordinary, but in
the upper half is a first place team. And for
them the Seahawks to hold them to twelve points, you know,
only three for twelve on third down, to play that
kind of red zone defense, This is a team that
came into it. We talked last week they're the only
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team in the NFL that was perfect in gold to
go situations.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
You got a gold to go stop. So they're no
longer perfect.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I just I think you're you hold teams to single
digits and you loed them. But getting back to Leonard Williams,
I mean, this dude was just I don't know if
he just had a baby or if he's got long
lost family that's never seen a game that flew in.
Something was just lit under that cat, because I mean
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he had he was fourth on the team in tackles.
He had two and a half sacks, He had three
tackles for lost, four quarterback hits a pass defense. I mean,
he was, you know, he's he's legitimately in line for
NFC Defensive Player of the Week.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
If he doesn't get it, then somebody else is going
to have to do something really big. So Big Cat
ninety nine, hell of a job, and the defense and
then a unbelievable clutch drive Dick in the fourth quarter,
just you know, to come out and get your longest
drive of the season at eight minutes and twelve seconds
and have three big third down conversions.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You know, just when they needed to be clutched. They
were clutched.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
The kicker right down Broadway fifty yards with almost as
much pressure as you want. Dixon had a hell of
a game. So I'm just a happy see our fan
Dick right now.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It should be. I mean, anytime you get a double
digit win against a division opponent that was in first place,
a team that was favored over you, You've now won as
an underdog two consecutive weeks against division opponents, and you know,
going into this game, Hugh, there was a couple of
things that kept rattling through my mind, and one was
a story from a couple of a year or two
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ago when Kyler Murray was going through his contract situation.
Remember they had to put that silly clause that you
have to read your playbook clause and you can't play
so much call of duty clause in the end the contract. Yeah,
And I kind of contrasted that image with when I've
heard Hugh Millen talk about the how much respect he
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has for the mind of Mike McDonald, and I just thought, God,
it kind of sounds like a mismatch waiting to happen,
Mike McDonald's mind against Kyler Murray's lack of preparation. So
how much how much scheming and confusion did you see
for Kyler Murray today caused by Mike McDonald.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, I think that there was a lot of movement
out there. They had played a lot of big nickel
rays on Jenkins. You know, it was good to have
him back that. You know, they weren't flawless, They missed
some tackles, and really what they did is they forced
you know, I would say this, Mike McDonald will probably say, Look,
if we can shut down one phase of an opponent's offense,
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then you know you gotta be damn good to beat
us with just the other phase. And you know, I
didn't know how it was going to play out. The
Cardinals came in in many statistics the best running team
in the NFL. They were number one in big plays
in the rushing game. And here you have now Kyler
Murray had nine yards. That means that Cardinal running backs
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had forty yards and the you know the average, I mean,
you know, the their best guy, Benson, you know, eighteen yards.
That was their best running back.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So yeah, and there to their number one back who
had the most carries, James Connor had seven carries for
eight yards.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah, And so just in terms of average, So you
take James Connor, their starting tail back, think of that.
I mean, I'm gonna just let that sit in one
point one yard per per rush attempt for a team
that came in that everybody feared that how they were
going to run the football on you. And with the
thread of Kyler Murray as an extra guy in the
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gap in terms of your run fits. So this is something.
Now the Seahawks, we just when are they gonna stop
the run? I mean, they look it's it's a it's
a short little duration. But we got three straight weeks.
Now that where they are stoning the run and they
are playing that they're building the wall, they're playing gap
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and a half where they're you know, they'll they'll play
to one shade of an offensive lineman, but they won't penetrate.
There's still be in a position to react into the
opposite gap, and that bogs down the running lanes. That
allows the linebackers to flow. You have, you know, Spoon
just jumping off the page once again, jumping off the
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field in terms of his competitiveness.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
And and so Kyler Murray gets two hundred.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
And eighty five yards I alluded to, you can let
you know, you can give him one phase, well, two
hundred and eighty five yards fair amount. Thirty seven attempts,
that's under eight yards per you know, it's like seven
point seven. You can live with that, particularly when you
see that it's a seventy seven passer rating, no touchdowns
in an interception, and.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
You really kind of held down the big plays.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
I mean, the Cardinals came into this game tied for
twenty seventh in big plays produced in the passing game.
So they got a hell of a tight end mcbriden.
They've got a hell of a talent in Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
But who else is there? Right? Who else do you
even like.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Like after Michael Wilson or Door Tran.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
They were just they were just guys. They were just
non existent guys.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
And so you know.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
McBride's sorry, it was McBride's twelve for one thirty three.
Was that just simply because hey, we got somebody's gonna
be we're taking this away in that away, so somebody's
going to be open. Is that pretty much the situation there.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
I just sat there and I tabulated every one of
his catches. My son through for him at his pro day.
So I've I've been aware of this kid for a
long time. McBride hell of a talent and uh, you know,
likely to be a pro bowler, you know, slash second
team All Pro type guy. But look, he caught balls
all over the field. He caught otbs over the balls,
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little quick hitters where he's the primer. He caught intermediate
intermediate uh over routes, which are intermediate crossing routes. He
ran sale routes where he started to cross then broke
out to the sideline. He ran checkdowns where where they
were you know, Murray was looked down field, looked downfield,
he blocked and then delay into the flat. Hit him
in the flat. He'd miss tackles. They threw bubble screens
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to him. Off the RPO game. They got the ball
to him in every conceivable way other.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Than in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
So you know, look at he was targeted fifteen times.
He had twelve receptions one hundred and thirty three yards.
He said, a Cardinal record. I mean, Cardinal's been around
a long time. Haven't the Cardinals been around, you know,
like Cardinals and then the Saint Louis car I mean,
I think they've been around as long as the Giants,
like for a century. And we just saw the tight
end record. So but that's fine. It's like you give
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if you just give the point, its just like, but
don't let their other guy beat, you know. And whoever
there ever got other guys Marvin Harrison had three catches
for forty seven yards.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
You can absolutely live with that.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
And and by the way, whoever fourteen is who caught
that Willie May's that was one of them. That's got
to be an spi uh type. Yeah, man alive. I mean,
you can't glove a guy any better than that. But
you know, if a guy, if a guy can walk
into your stadium and make that catch, you almost just say, hey,
had they won and that was the key play of
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the game, then then you tip your hat to them.
But but an event it was. You know, look, partners
are a good team, not elite. They're exactly what you
had to do. And what I loved is is I
mean the crowd was there. They weren't selling their tickets.
I think the crowd was salty from a week of
dealing with the cyclone that that that that was like
a sea type of a crowd and and recognizing, hey,
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you want to come into our our stadium and and uh,
we're a little bit of an underdog.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
I'm not talking Vegas.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I don't even know what the point spread was, but
but you're one up on us in the division. That's
where Seattle crowds are their best. So I thought the
energy was just palpable in terms of how the defense.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Was flying around.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
As I said, I think Spoon and Leonard Williams were
the the catalysts in that regard. You had steady play,
Ernest Jones in there. I mean, what they've done to
clean up. Their run defense is nothing sort of well,
I'm in a happy mood, you know, miraculous comes to mind.
I don't want to be hyperbole, but it's certainly impressive
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what we've seen over the last few weeks, and it
continued today.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Remind us again, Mike McDonald's first year is defensive corney
of the Ravens. What was his points per game ranking
first half of the first season and second half of
the first season.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Yeah, well, I probably said it on about nine different
times on the different shows on KGr through the first
several weeks, and they were seventeenth and in the first
eight weeks, and then they were number one in weeks
nine and beyond. And that goes for that goes for
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what was it third down? I don't have it right
in front of me, but I said it so often.
Some of that I got. I know this the three
stats that you look at, they were seventeenth, eighteenth, and
nineteenth halfway through the season. And this is the Baltimore
Ravens twenty twenty two season, the season after Mike McDonald
had had that one year stop at Michigan where he
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took the Wolverines from ninety fourth in scoring defense giving
up thirty four points per game to seventh in scoring
defense giving up seventeen points a game one year, and
big brother, you know, Harbaugh, John just said, hey, Jimmy,
I need that dude back. So he brought him back
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in twenty twenty two, and after half a year, there
were the Ravens sitting there a little below the median,
as I said, seventeen, eighteen and nineteenth and the most
important stats. And then they went to one one in
three over the duration of the second half of the year.
You know, it marinated. It takes a little while. And look,
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I'm not saying they've arrived in that regard. You know,
somebody go drop four to seventy five on him and
thirty five points and then, you know, and then we
all look like fools. But we can we can start
to get optimistic and say, hey, look, this guy has
has a vision for how a defense looks.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And he look what we just did you in the
in the last in the last three games against division opponents,
all three of them at the time that we played
them playoff contenders, and two of the three still playoff contenders.
The forty nine ers don't look like they are anymore.
But the other two do you have held? You held
the Rams to nineteen. I know they scored twenty six,
but Gino threw a pick six that ain't on the defense.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
And the touchdown was in overtime, so and the touchdown
was in So they held.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
To thirteen over sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Great call. Thirteen points over sixty minutes to the Rams,
seventeen points to the Niners, six points without a touchdown
of the cardinal. That's what this defense has done in
the last three weeks. Leonard Williams, how is he being
Is he being used differently? Is he is he at
a different position? Is he being used? What is making
him so much better this season, particularly in the last
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month or so than what we saw what we saw
last year with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yeah, I think that you're just creating some confusion. Yes,
he got a sack as lined up as the right
defensive end. Today, he got a sack where you know,
he's inside pressure. But but they'll do inside what we
call inside games. Where he had with Jaron Reid on
one of his sacks, where hey, it's just a little
twist inside twists. Usually you think of a twist to say, okay,
the tackle in the end on one side of the
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ball are going to run a twist.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
But what they'll do is they'll run. They'll keep the ends.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
They won't have the ends run the twist because you
got to contain a guy like Kyler Murray. When you
run a stunt, uh, what's called a T TE or ET. Okay,
follow me in this, The end tackle would be an ET.
How about that he comes before the T, So the
end goes before and then the tackle loops around. If
you do TE or ET stunts and the only difference
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is who goes first. Those are basically x's on one
side of the offensive line. Okay, by the defenders. We're
talking about defensive tactics here. Okay, But when you run
those stints, whether it's TE or E T, then the
guy who lined up as a defensive tackle, he now
has contained.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
He's on the outside.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
So if Kyler Murray wants to break the pocket, you've
got a slow guy chasing Kyler Murray.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
So what makes more sense to me?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
And when you watch on at least some of these pressures,
and I mean they're so dog gone many I can't
wait to break them down.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
But okay, let.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The end stay up on the tackles, leave them alone
because you need the athlete on the perimeter to keep
Kyler Murray in in the pocket. But then you do
the game on the inside, you know called a T
T tuntunt.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
Did I just say that this is what happened when
you're excited.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Yeah, a TT stunt where the tackle two tackles loop
and and and you get a sack out of that
with Leonard Williams. So yeah, you're just you're showing more,
making more communication more of a problem at home.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
You know, the the uh, the communication piece.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Should be a problem for your opponent with with those
type of stunts and and but but he was. He
was just quick off the ball. You know, you have
scraping sparking where you go inside gap and you have
them assigned so you get movement instead of just trying
to uh stay stationary.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
So there's some schematic things they're doing.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
But I I just think there was a guy that
I don't know what was in his cheerios today, but
that guy was just playing with emotion and force. And look,
there's too many guys who played too well to just
you know, do the whole post game on Leonard Williams.
But then anyway, I think he deserves his flowers, and
we're trying to give it to him.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No question about. We're gonna take time out and we
come back. We are going to talk about yet another
game where Geno taketh away and then Geno giveth And
it usually is whatever order the giveth comes in. If
it's last, then we usually win. If it's first, it
would usually lose. And uh, he was able to giveth
at the end of the football game. Once again, we'll
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talk about Geno's performance with you coming up next. Twelve
Man post game show in ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Now back to the twelfth Man postgame show the Seattle
Seahawks on your home for the twelfth Man Sports Radio
ninety three point three JJRFM.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
In the last couple of games, Smith underneath the Smith
and Jake Bond, He's got a lot of real.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Estate in front of him.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Good block by Cody White, and it's first down a
goal for Seattle on the first pig play for either
team in this first half.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Look at that shift, tell it the line.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Smith and Chickle touchdown. The JSN Drive game. Seattle a
seven to three lead on Arizona, they would take that
lead into the half. Dick Vane Hubrit Love Millan with
you twelve man post game show after a sixteen to six,
hard fought, gritty, defensive minded football game that the Seahawks
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win in a snap. That shift dreadful four game home
losing streak that was just driving us all crazy, also
snapped the Arizona Cardinals four game winning streak in the process. Hugh,
let's go back to the second quarter of those two plays.
You just toured the tunnel screen as the pat The
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offensive line was a sieve in the first half. Ryan
Grebwood goes with the tunnel screen and it works the
perfection for forty six yards and sets up the touchdown
pass the JA. Yeah, I think there's through it.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
I think there's a lot of coaches that you wouldn't
find a universal agreement on the terminology. I think a
lot of coaches would say that the tunnel screen is
to the widest or the mid uh maybe one end
from the outside and you're you're working in. I think
a lot of coaches would call that a middle screen. Okay,
but uh, you know that we're just talking terminology about
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But it's important to me, because when you get you
get a man to man.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Really where it all.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Happened was whoever ninety nine is the defensive lineman for
the Cardinals falling back into the play, jays N had
to make him miss. But other than that that, all
the blocks set up really nice and just you know,
beautiful call. But had that ninety nine made that tackle,
you know, it had been a three yard game.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, and it would have been third and seven. What
was the other one, what was the touch the touchdown
on third and goal. So it took you all the
way down to the four and then uh, Seattle got
the touchdown on JSN in the corner there on third
and goal of the three huge play.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Yeah, And and they just they busted that coverage. I mean,
they had a DK clearing out the corner and they're
playing zone and whoever forty three is, he's on the flat,
he has to match in zone coverage. He's just standing
flat footed looking at the ball, and he's got a
he's got to match what we call match number two
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to the flat. Number two is the guy lined up
second from the outside. Is we said DK's going to
clear out the corner and then Jsn's gonna run to
the flat. Well, they've got to have a even though
its zone, they've got to have a a zone defender,
what we call the curl flat defender. In that instance,
he's he's got to have the flat and forty three
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for the Cardinals just absolutely blew a fuse. But that's
what you know, if you're if you're doing enough things
with formations, movements, personnel, what have you, and getting guys
spread out, then you can create that kind of of
a confusion.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
I mean, that's why you do it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It's like what you know, you're a you coach basketball,
you know when when you see the opponent travel when
you do full court, you know, you look at the
refe you say, hey, that's why we're doing the full
court right, Like if you're not gonna call travel like
we're we're doing it for that yeah, and and right
and so uh and so you know.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
We do all the the you know, the all the.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Things that I just described with trying to get people confused,
and it's to get that type of a reaction to
get get a walk in touch him. That's when an
offensive coordinator just has a big smile because that's not
the players that's the scheme.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
That's that. That's right.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
That's not one guy, you know, just out jumping another.
That's like, wait a minute, he's unblocked. He's run totally
running unblocked. I mean, Gino could have blindfolded himself. But anyway, Yeah, cool,
cool play.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
There got a touch down that was a four point play.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It was a huge play absolutely, and took the seven
to three lead. Then they got the ball and had
a fairly decent drive going that started at their thirty
got to the Arizona thirty two, and I gotta be honest,
I didn't love the play call even before the fumble
on third and two at the Arizona thirty two at
twelve nineteen left, I said, hey, you're in field goal
range already. Don't take a negative play. Run the football here.
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Three things happen if you run the football here. You
either get a first down. You either are stopped so
close to the first down marker that you're just a
quarterback sneak away from getting the first down, or your
stop for no gain or loss a gain and air
loss of a yard or two, and you're still in
plenty of easy Jason Myers field goal range to kick
a field goal. That's why I wanted to run there.
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He didn't. He decided to pass. Gino Smith dropped back
with sack for a ten yard loss and fumbled the
ball and got it back, so at least they were
able to punt it away. That was the first mistake
by Gino Smith. I think that was maybe contributed with
the with the Ryan Grubb call there on the on
the third down, and then just Geno kind of went
into this early second half Geno mode that we saw
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against the Rams and we saw against the Niners, just
the inexplicable decisions, an interception and then a near interception
that was overturned because of replay. Hugh, I mean, is
there is there anything now that you've seen it for
time and time and time again, can you put it
make any sense into when Geno goes into these modes
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where it's just inexplicable play after inexplicable play over a
short period of time in second.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Halfs Well, I'll just say that you're trusting them with
the keys of the car, and you're trusting him not
to crash it. And you know, I don't know how
many times do you have to see you guy crash it.
Now you're just palmed to the forehead on that first
play of the fourth quarter, and he appeared to audibleize
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I'm gonna give it another but it appeared like he
was changing the play. The Cardinals backed out and they
played a three deep four under zone. Now in that
the combination they had with JSN running a speed out,
a twelve yard speed out to the sideline and DK
running off the coverage. Notice all these times I'm talking
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about DK running off the coverage. Ye, that is a
good That is a good route what they checked to
if indeed they did check that. That speed out by
number two again counting outside in you know, it's a
takeoff by one, speed out by two. That's good against
Cover one, that's man and man. Good against Cover zero
if you if you can block the safety. It's good
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against a four deep three under zone because the uh,
the the outside linebacker has has to run with him
and you'll usually or even if it's a nickel, you'll
usually get outside leverage on an outbreaking route. So there's
there's a lot of routes I could say it's good,
but it's not good against Cover three. What Arizona played,
particularly when they play what's called the country style of
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cover three.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
What does country mean?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
When you have a match a pattern match cover three,
it it's like, hey, you tell the widest guys. Think
of a baseball outfield and infield minus the pitcher and catcher.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
That's what cover three is. The outfield is the three.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Deep and the the infield is is so you're you're
focusing on who's the first baseman?
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Got me, what's his responsibility? Now?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Sometimes the first baseman will run through the seam, he'll
run through the gap of you know, center field and
and and the right fielder and and you'll clear that
out area out because he's pattern matching. But country country
cover three means you're just going spot dropping. You just
dropping in the airs, your a yard outside the hash
marks and the hook zones the middle of the second
baseman and and the uh and the shortstop and then
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the outside guys uh, the third basement, first mate smith.
They just try and get outside, you know, depending on
where the ball is on the hash you know inside
the numberers are on the numbers or just outside the numbers.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Right, So there's there's landmarks.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
And when they're doing landmark cover three, what what some
coaches call country cover three. You're not gonna get that
route that that they audiblized. You're not gonna get the
speed out to number two. So when he uh gino,
he went outside the pocket. Now, Tyler, he's going to
a vacated area. And look, there was a time where
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he was open. But to keep the analogy, the first
baseman recognized the the the the breakdown, and he sprinted
back to get in that gap between the center fielder
and the right fielder, and he picked it off. And
so if you're gonna playoff script and make a four point,
you know that that that cost you four points, yep,
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because you know you had you had three points right right?
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Uh well, I guess cause you say it costs you three.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
But if he runs it, you got a first down,
you could get.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
A I thought that, Dick.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I thought that when I first saw it, But when
I saw it in the replay, I don't think he
would have got it. Okay, I think the second basement
that was keeping the BASEketball people.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
I'd say the hook zone defender.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
But since I've already created a picture for you, the
second baseman was widening and he was ready to He
had a good angle to to run him before he
would have got I think I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'll take a look at it again. And then but
then he makes Hugh, let's move on to the miraculous
play he makes. I mean third and eight at at
Seattle's own thirty two yard line, six thirty eight left
in the game, still very much a football game, and
and he just then he shows how great Geno Smith
can be with the past the DK for eighteen yards
in a first down.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Well, I think I think we got to get the
third and seven from the twenty three first there's let's
about three third downs in that bill, okay, in sequence,
So so before we just said third and seven at
the twenty three, throws the out route to Smith and
jig But it's the same route that he had on
the interception that I just cry. But instead of having
one guy clear out, there's two guys clearing out DK
and and Tyler, and they're bringing in a blitz. This
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is a cover zero casino blitz. Here's the here's the
beauty of it is that they're playing cover zero, so
that the defender playing man and man on Jackson, Smith
and Jigba. He's got to honor the inside breaking route first,
because Smith and Jigba is number three. What I mean
by that again counting outside in, so the the safety
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and I'm gonna get to the personnel in the second.
He's got to line up because the easier completion is
to cross your face into a post and in breaking route.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
So he's got to get inside leverage.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
So we already have advanced Ryan Grubs up there in
the press conference going, I got an outbreaking route on
an in on a guy playing cover zeros, just as
long as we can get minimal protection. Credit Lincoln Tomlinson
coming off off of his man to get a piece
of a Buddha baker on the blitz and that that
b gap. But so they blocked it just well enough.
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But here's the thing, and we talk about DK's presence.
You know who was covering man the man on Jackson
Smith and Jigla Dad Ran Taylor Demerson, rookie fourth round
draft pick this year, who was averaging before today twenty
seven snaps a game, and to who today had sixty two.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
So I'm just telling you what Ryan Grubb was doing
when he saw number forty two lined up inside shade,
having to play inside out this is This is a
matchup where you just say game, set, match for this play,
there's no way that dude is covering him on an
outbreaking route and then gino with a guy in his face.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
Even though it wasn't a comeback route.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
He threw it because he couldn't get velocity on it,
because he was retreating, he couldn't get his body into it.
He pulled Jackson, Smith and Jigbab back to the line
of scrimmage, and Smith and Jigba has some of the
best instincts for coming back to the ball of any
young receiver I've seen in a long damn time. Yeah,
and so just so it turned into like a comeback
even though in an ideal world with no pressure, when
(38:03):
you do that routes on air, it ends up being
a parallel speed break.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
You speed out, meaning not sharp out.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
You speed out, and then your exit angle coming out
of your your release, you're a parallel to the line
of scrimmage, perpendicular to the sideline, and then you smoke
the ball to the sideline if you're a quarterback. But
this one didn't pull them parallel to the line. Scream
pulled him back. So you get a big completion to
Smith and Jigba, and I know we run in time.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
What we're gonna take a quick time out. We'll get you.
We'll get the final thoughts on that, on that big
play that he made, and wrap things up and take
it to Sunday Night Football next on the twelfth Man
Post Game Show on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Now back to the twelfth Man postgame show.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
The Seattle Seahawk on.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Your home for the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three
point three kJ r FM.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
Hey, I've sat here for the last five minutes during
that break, and I have rewound and played, and rewound,
and played, and rewound and played six thirty eight left
to go in the game third and eight, and I've
watched it like ten times.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I'm gonna watch it again right now. As I'm describing
to the fans third down and eight, Gino Smith gets
rushed up the middle pretty much dead to rights, steps
to his left and then escapes to his right. Then
throws side armed twenty nine yards in the air because
he's ten yards behind the line of scrimmage when he
(39:30):
lets it go in between two defenders to a waiting
DK Metcalf on the run and allows Seattle to milk
the rest of the clock and kick the game winning
field goal. Hey, that was one of the better plays
I've ever seen Geno make. Tell us what you saw there.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Yeah, it was this big time, particularly in light of
the fact that he had thrown that interception early in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
That's a lot of guts.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
And as you said, we talked about the et stunt
and you don't want to have a tackle, you know,
a big body guy out on the edge. Well, they
run a tea stunt, but they have Xavier Collins, a
linebacker as the defensive tackle. So when he replaces and
goes to the outside, now the defensive end Xavier Thomas,
(40:14):
he comes in and Seattle on the right side of
the line did a poor job of communicating and handling that.
So it's just a free runner essentially, and Gino makes
him miss, as you said, gets to the outside and
then it's his zone coverage and he has to he
has to.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Whistle that in there.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Almost would would would say, you know, you mentioned the
two defenders the underneath guys, there's a safety coming from
the the top down and your your debt perception can
can betray you where you think, okay, like is he
deep enough? You know, you see it's almost like a
triangle the two guys in front and then and then
like a cone like the guy in the back. You say, okay,
(40:51):
well how deep is he? So you got to you
got to assess that in in fractions of a second.
Almost was like, DK, do you want to wrap and
kind of come back down in between that hole to
to gain separation from that safety. But he gets he
gets whacked in the back. But you know, DK is
a big, strong dude, and he hung on and and
and I know, I know you're gonna try and take
(41:11):
me out of But the third and four of the
draw play just real quick. Two young guys OLOI Timmy,
they do a six up, so they run a draw
and Oloid Timmy he's got to keep his guy from
crossing his face to his left. And then Christian Haynes, uh,
he's right there. They're running that gap, the strong eight
gap on the on the draw and both of those
guys have to block their guys inside out. That's the
(41:33):
key thing inside out to allow that hole. And they
and they that was a that was a huge one
too to get that draw with Charbonnet on third and four,
So three huge third downs on that drive ends up
being eight twelve longest drive of the season, and then
your field goal kicker.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Hell, if there'd have been an upright in the middle
of the uprights, he would have hit it. Yeah, he
would have hit the middle of the of of the middle.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Upright like like that. That was just just awesome, awesome football.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Great stuff. Man, good all the way through, great defense
for four quarters. Gino makes the play at the end.
They have a nice, uh time sucking drive for that
field goal that you mentioned there, and they get it
done sixteen to six. And right now, as of this second,
they are in first place in the NFC West, all
by their lonesome. Yes, they're tied with Arizona, but they
have the first tiebreaker by virtue of that winover Arizona.
(42:22):
I guess we're saying, go Eagles. It's kind of weird.
I never really root for the Eagles, but I'll root
for them tonight because they're taking on the La rams
At so far coming up next, Hugh will talk to
you tomorrow. We'll listen to you on the Monday morning quarterback.
All right, okaydans Man, that's Hugh Millen anders her stick
fane saying solo and every sol on everybody's stick fane
saying see you and go Eagles. This has been a
(42:43):
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