12th Man Postgame Show 10-5: Seahawks Fall to Bucs

Dick Fain and Hugh Millen break down the Seahawks narrow loss to the Bucs today at Lumen Field.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
FMN unforgettable afternoon in Seattle. Dick Fane with you twelfth
Man Postgame Show live from Jimmy's On First I am
watching to my right thousands of people streaming out of
Looming Field, and I bet a good chunk of those

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heading over to my left, which tea Mobile Park. The
doors are open, football fans streaming in, Baseball fans streaming in.
Just an incredible day here in Seattle, and an incredible
football game we just witnessed, and we'll talk about it
for the next fifty minutes here on ninety three point
three KJRFM. You Breed Love Millan will join us momentarily

(01:09):
to break down what to me was as entertaining a
football game.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
As we have seen it. Loom And Field in years.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I mean from just entertainment level, quality of offense level,
quality of quarterback play level, it was unmatched for a
long long time.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Because you think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
We have seen some stinker games here. We have seen
some defensive dogs. We have seen some eggs laid by
the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
This was not one of those days.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
And while it's disappointing to lose, there's no question you
never want to lose a game like that. I mean
sometimes for me, and I don't know about you out there,
and maybe it maybe it's all about the outcome. I mean,
maybe it's just not about the quality of play, not
about the entertainment value, not about the comeback, just about
the quality play. And if your team wins, it's a

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good game, and if your team loses, it's a bad game.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And I get it. If that's that's you, that's cool.
That's not me, that's not me.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean I sometimes I just got to appreciate what
I saw out there today, because there has been so
many times that I've been sitting here in this chair
at Jimmy's on first going what the hell did we
just watch?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
That was just gross?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
And that is not how I feel today, I feel
like you validated the fact that this team has a
quarterback for the short term and I believe for the
long term. Yes, Sam Donald threw a crucial interception that
knocked off a helmet.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Heck, he had a great completion.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
On the touchdown drive that knocked out, that knocked off
a helmet, that could have been interception that there was.
There was some playing with fire by Sam Donald in
the fourth quarter of that game. I understand that, but
I think that's kind of what you're gonna get with
Sam Donald. But what you did get with Sam Donald,
and these numbers cannot be refuted. These are in Stone
twenty eight of thirty four, three hundred and forty one yards,

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ten yards per completion, four touchdowns, one interception, and a
passer rating of one thirty five point four. That's the good.
Now the bad is on the other side. Baker Mayfield
was twenty nine of thirty three, three seventy nine, eleven

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and a half yards per completion, two touchdowns, a one
thirty five passer rating.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
You have two quarters. I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I can guarantee you I have never been the closest thing,
and I'd have to go back and look the closest
thing I can think of to a quarterback matchup that
we just saw today that I've seen in person at
Lumenfield was Russell Wilson against Deshaun Watson. I think DeShawn
Watson was a rookie Jackson. Do you happen to remember
that game when we played Houston like six or.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Seven years back, and Jimmy Graham the winner and it was.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Good call, and it was just quarterback magic from Russelly
Wilson and Deshaun Watson. Now, neither one of them are
any good anymore, but back then they certainly were.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
And we just saw Jackson.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Two quarterbacks play at unbelievable levels today. And yes, part
of Baker Mayfield's play was the fact that, oh, let's see,
we were down. I don't know Derek Hall, Nicky Man, Worri,
Devin Witherspoon, Jordan Love, Tarik Wollen.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Am I missing anybody? Jackson? I might get quite a
few way may mean Tworth, I mean you.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Were playing with a backup secondary today almost across the board.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
By the way, that's gonna figure Dick.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
You're talking about that twenty seventeen game against the Texans
where we did face Watson. It's funny looking back at
the stats from that game. Paul Richardson had six for
one oh five and two touchdowns in that game.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know, when Paul Richardson's going for those stats, it's
a good quarterback game, There is no question about that.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, we're the passer ratings for Russell and DeShawn In
that game.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Russell Wilson had a rating of one twenty three point two.
He was twenty six of forty one, four hundred and
fifty two yards for Russell Wilson, four tuddies and one pick.
Deshaun Watson meanwhile had a rating of one zero six
point nine.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
So this was actually better at least passer rating wise.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
This was actually better because these two quarterbacks both had
a one thirty five passer rating combined for six touchdowns
and one interception. So am I Am I barking up
the wrong tree here, Jackson? Am I too happy and
optimistic about a Seahawks?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, I'll say you are, because I am. I am
very frustrated that we couldn't pull this out.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, I mean, obviously the defense down the stretch that
was that was the key to the game getting beat
over the top the key to this loss, a mecca
of Buca having a second half for the Ages after
the Seahawks were really really good bottling up at Buca
in the first half, a mecca at Buka. The kid

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from Silla come ends up with seven catches, one hundred
and sixty three yards and a touchdown and none bigger
than third and twelve over the top, and let's welcome
in our expert here Breed love Millan joining us At
and Hugh. I don't know if you heard me in
the first ten minutes. I'm probably I'm probably too optimistic
about a loss.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
But I think it's just because you and.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I have sat here so many times, particularly over the
last three or four years after Seahawks games, and we're
just like, God, that was not appealing football.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
God, that was gross. And to me, this game was
a hell of a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
And we saw two quarterbacks, two of the biggest reclamation
quarterback projects that this league has seen in the last decade,
play at top, top level today. So I for me
it was entertaining. It sucks that we lost, but just
your overall.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Feelings that we saw it, well, yeah, look, if you
want to drive in that lane, that's fine. I'm sure
there's a lot of fans who agree with you. That's
not the lane I'm in. I'm I'm really I'm really pissed.
I'm discouraged. I'm uh disillusioned. Uh it's a loss you
had a chance to get at home to you know,
this could factor in the playoff seeding, even making the playoffs.

(07:17):
I Uh, look, I think if if you want to
talk about Sam Darnold and how exquisite he was, yeah,
and had the Seahawks one, That's that's what we would
lead with, That's what we'd end with, and that's what
we'd spend a lot of time with in the middle.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
But but for me, the I'll just.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Say this, Julian Love better be the best secondary quarterback
in the NFL and the reason and they didn't have him,
and everybody couldn't couldn't get within a shadow of Tampa
Bay receivers and Devin Witherspoon better be the the the

(07:54):
the dude with the most juice, the most electricity in
all the and they missed his juice.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Because what the Seahawks showed on defense.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
I never thought i'd see this from Mike McDonald, I mean,
going you'd have to go back to Buffalo. I remember
the Monday morning how I felt after Buffalo. I felt
terrible after the game, and then I got up at
four in the morning and I watched a tape and
I didn't feel any better. So I remember the last
time I felt about this defense. But I thought that
those days were gone, and I would just say this,
the defensive line. Start with the defensive line. Tell me

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tell me one time that a defensive lineman ever made
a footprint on this game. And don't tell me Byron
Murphy's roughing the call in the first that cost fifteen yards,
And don't tell me Leonard Williams headbutt that cost a
first and goal on the one.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Just the sack that was it. I mean the sack
was huge, but that was the only play.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean, it was so it was so huge that
we were like, oh my god, that hadn't happened all day.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, but well the sack.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
The sack was was by a dB. It by twenty three.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, they were both, they were both in there. I
didn't know who got the credit for it, but I
know Nuelsa was close.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
But you're right, it was. It was a dB coming through.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Okay, the protection, the pass protection for the Buccaneers, there
was zero push in the middle, zero down after down
after down. I mean going into the fourth quarter, Baker Mayfield,
there was a point where he was was it he
had three incompletions? Were he thirty five of thirty eight
or twenty five of twenty eight? I mean, I mean

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it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, twent thirty three. Yeah, four incompletions the whole game.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Yeah, but no, but up up to that point he
oh gotcha, yeah it was so he had me like, yeah,
so we had four incompletions and that was a you know,
a throwaway, and so no pressure up the middle, edge
pressure not existent.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Bloyme, Mafy, Where were you? Bloyme, Mafy.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Now uh, I mean the mistackles.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
How about the conversions, the conversions on third down, third
and seven, Yes, let's talk in.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Seventeen, a tight end screen on third and seventeen, and
Drake Thomas and everybody else has miss tackles. They pick
up seventeen yards third and eleven, they pick up eleven
yards third and twenty, third and twenty, and they get
a twenty yard from the third and goal from the
twenty and they give up a touchdown third and thirteen.

(10:25):
I mean, these are double digit third downs that your
defense is in, and you give up a fifty seven yarder.
I mean, let's break just let's break those down.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Let's break those down, because those were those were the
crucial what you just pointed there, those were the crucial
turning points in the late stage of this game.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, early, Yeah, and you know and playing mill Row.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
You know, like whatever catastrophe that was, We're gonna have
to talk about this. Yes, you know what happens on
these things. I'm raw after a game, like it's a
different post game for me on Sunday Monday morning. I
try and be more composed. I'm so freaking pissed. Okay, well,
let's let's let's go. Let's go, let's go in order.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, Let's let's start with the touchdown that made it
twenty one to fourteen. Tampa Bay was a nine play drive,
seventy seven yards in five minutes and seven seconds, and
they convert the touchdown. Let's see scrolling through there, A
Baker Mayfield took Mechamuka for twenty yards from the Seattle
twenty on third and fifteen. Take us through what happened there?

(11:27):
Because it's time for some blame. Pie, we're gonna march
through some of these plays here that were crucial to
the Tampa Bay wy. We got to start, ay, you know,
extending some blame to the Seahawk secondary and pass red.
So what happened on that a mecca play because he
was playing it in the first half.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Yeah, that so that was to make a twenty one
fourteen Buccaneers correct.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Okay, So that's Pritchet in man. So they're in man
to man.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
The ball was on the left hash you had, I
believe the post safety was Kobe Bryant. So and the
Buccaneers are in a trip's right formation. When you see
pritch it, he's first of all, it's third and fifteen,
a third at the twenty yard line, third and fifteen

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at the twenty.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Was he up in press?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
He was up in press, and with he he allowed
an inside release. If you're gonna allow an inside release,
you have your receiver has to be what's called inside
the divider. Now, the divider, if the ball's in the
middle of the field, it's exactly ten yards, so that's
two yards from outside of the numbers. The divider is

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where you tell the defensive back, Hey, if he's lined
up inside, you can allow an inside release because you've
got post safety help. But if he's outside of this,
you cannot allow the inside release because you're not gonna
have safety help on the on the on the post.
And so, Pritchet, who's out because you know, look, you
had you had, Wollan was out, Witherspoon's out. So you're

(12:58):
down to you know, second string corner at best. But
that's where Mike McDonald, dude, you got to help this guy.
You can't put him in press coverage against a Mecca.
Mecca is the rookie offensive player of the month. Hell,
if they had to stop right now and.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Have the All Pro team, he'd be first team All Pro.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And we might have, say, we might have seen the
two along with a Monroth, we might have seen the
two first team All Pro wide receivers in this game,
both playing at the highest level.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Well and Baker Mayfield, might you know, I mean, who's
he might be the m v P right now, give
him everything that he's doing and so and and you
had had a you know, he had had a post
out to win the game late against the Falcons. So
we already saw that exact route post route to Mecca
on the right side. So uh, you know, you let
an inside release happen, you don't, the safety doesn't get over,

(13:50):
you know. To me, I just I think that's uh.
You know, Baker Mayfield was. He was one step ahead
of Mike McDonald. And you know how much I don't
like Michael McDonald. I love Mike McDonald. Yea, I love
his I love his personality, I love how he teaches.
I love his schemes, I love his productive What the
hell happened today?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
They gave up thirty eight freaking points? And what about
The answer drives.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
The answer drives like every time you got some momentum defensively,
the defense just.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Looks like they were playing with eight guys.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
But anyways, on that so on that post, you know,
that's just Baker Mayfield saying, Okay, if you want to
make a mistake, I'm gonna put a sword right through
your neck. Okay, right through the middle of your neck.
That is his mentality. He came into the game number
three in the NFL and scramble yards.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Right.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
You think, well, he's not the most athletic, He's prettydamn athletic,
and he moved around. We couldn't contain him. When we
lost contain, he got outside the contain he either ran
it for first downs or picked up big completions like
the Ottan one for twenty five yards up the sideline,
so the can't contain of him. And then on the
on the simulated pressers and the blitz. How many of
these third downs? How many I underscored four or five

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of the of the double digit thirds, but how many
third one? How about third medium? And and he hits
those slot hitches. He replaces the blitzer with the hitch.
So Baker Mayfield, I know, I'm kind of leading myself
all over, but Baker Mayfield, he was just one up
on Mike McDonald. I hate saying that, but the facts

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are the facts. And uh and and I think that
they were in a bad defense with Pritchett against against
a mecca. And again the breakdown technique allowing the inside release.
If you're gonna allow the inside release, you better know
you got post help.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
He didn't get the post help.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Baker Mayfield's got a strong arm and he ripped it
into the back of the end zone with anticipation.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
There is no quarterback in the NFL that is more
emblematic of the logo on his helmet than Baker Mayfield
fricking skull, two swords, and he'll put it right through
your heart, which is what he did today. Now let's
move forward into the later stages of the third quarter.
The Seahawks had eaten things up at twenty one to
twenty one, and then Baker Mayfield starts marching again. And

(16:10):
the big kill shot in that game wasn't a touchdown,
but it's set up the touchdown.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Tell me about thirty twelve, third and thirteen.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
For fifty seven yards over the top to him, ach
ed Buco, what happened there?

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah, Well, a Mechi gets free access, so you're not
jamming him. At some point you'd say, hey, let's let's
jam this guy and put a safety over the top.
So he gets free access and he starts and because
of the protection, if you're if you're back.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
There playing, uh uh, And and that was that was
on job.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
So job is sitting there going okay, A Mecca gets
free access and he's running, starts to run a speed
out that would have been to the first down yards.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
I mean it was third and twelve but.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
That's he's he's faking a six step speed out.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
That's third inside step, you're gonna get to twelve yards.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
So he's got a kind of he's got he's got
to bite on the on the out a little bit. Otherwise,
he said, if if he stands flat foot and he's
just gonna give up a third and twelve, and you're
gonna go, dude, what are you doing? But it's a
beautiful out and up and then and I believe it's okada,
I will I will know by tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
But but somebody was in the post safety.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
I like, at this juncture, you just can't put a
mecca that might give him free access at the lion
scrimmage and then don't have a safety to that side
of the field. Put Josh job on an out and
up and then the free safety is just uh, you know,
a terrible play by uh by the back end and
that so.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
And brutal pass rush. It's like seven on seven.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
And you know the thing about defensive linemen, they can
just they can just disappear and and and we sit
there and.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Go, oh job job got beat.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
But I want I just watched sixty minutes of football
and I saw fetic pass rush and if you're you
know and and hell I was on Friday talking about
the uh the Buccaneers that that that their right the
right tackle is in his sixth year is Pro Football
Focus rating has gone down literally every single year's declined.
He had a thirty sixth grade going in the game.

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So I said, well, hey, the ends have an opportunity.
And then Christin Wurf's the left tackle who is a
great player, but uh and and has been in the
top ten in the NFL every year.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
He's also in his sixth year.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
But he's hurt, he's been he's coming off a knee,
he was physically unable to perform lists and he's that
back there playing twenty points below his his his normal
actually his worst grade twenty belot like. So I was like, hey,
these ends are gonna get something. Nothing nothing burger from
your ends, nothing burger from inside push. So yeah, the
the you gotta you gotta banged up secondary. That was

(18:52):
just having to uh to play seven on seven. I've
coached seven on seven leagues, going on tournaments all around
the country. Yeah, you know, my son was thrown to
a Mecca Buka. I've seen a lot of seven on
seven tournaments. Guess what I watched. I watched a lot
of seven on seven. And for those who don't know
what that means, it's like take the offensive line and
defensive line off and it's all passing in the back end,

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and so it's a quarterback with nobody in his face.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's what we saw. Oh man, how did anyways go ahead?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
How would you break down? Let's let's play a little
humil and blame Pie here for a second. So what
I'm hearing is, I'm hearing three different things on this defense.
I'm hearing depleted level of talent just due to the
basically half or over half of your starters were out
of this football game. Percent blame Pie on the pass rush,
and percent blame on Mike McDonald and his coaching scheme

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not helping out the depleted level of talent.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Uh. I think there was a couple of Mike McDonald
is is usually pretty sharp. I just don't think the
players were communicating. And they normally play zone. They're great
at zone. The communication was very poor. I mean, a
mecca is the know there's a play, a common play.

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Some people call it rap, some people call it hammer,
but you have the slot, he goes down and he
hooks up and he tries to influence the underneath coverage.
And then you put a mecca in an intermediate crossing
route over the middle. I can't believe how many times
that buccaneer receivers, usually a Mecca, but others as well,

(20:24):
caught the ball over the middle. And if you froze
the video, which I'm gonna do, and then say, is
there anybody who.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
If they had a.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Golf driver, a fly fishing pole, a lacrosse if you
know lacrosse, a lacrosse racket, not not the forward but
the defenseman like which is two feet longer. There's not
even defenders that if they had a lacrosse a defensive lacrosse.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Racket they could knock it down, that they'd be able
to knock it down.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
And so I think, I think just the communication, the
con you know, uh, I'm gonna look at the end
zone copy. I got the sense that Baker Mayfield was
using his eyes well but not that well so that
this was an utter catastrophic collapse of the defense, as
you know.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
But yeah, I mean, even even that.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Last play, you know, it's there's there's so many it's
like play after play, how about the how about the
last play when you have third down, you got one
time out left with the Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
They run power, right, they're gonna pull the backside guard.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
And if Seattle, if Seattle stops him there, they're gonna kick.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
A field goal. You call time out.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
At least at least you're gonna get a shot right
to try and you know, get a completion. In the
way that Sam Darnold has been playing, you might get
a completion and and you know they're just they're so
they were so pitiful on that play. That's like the
only good thing they did defensively. They did build a
wall against the running game. Uh, the Buccaneers didn't have
buck buck your what are the numbers on the running game?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
The running the running game was pathetic for Tampa Bay today.
It was, yeah, twenty four, like you take Baker Mayfield,
you want to keep Baker Baker Mayfield out. Take Baper
nineteen carries for forty one yards.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, they did a good job building a wall.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
But on that play, they're running power and you know,
Tyrese Knight, he's got to recognize this and and you
gotta close.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
You gotta you've got to.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Close down on those polars, and he just like runs
up the field that like as if he was past rushing.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
So Tyree Knight was horrible.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
And and then uh, look we like, we like Ernest Jones,
but but he didn't. He wasn't physical at the point
of attack. The receiver blocks down on the safety, down
on Kobe Bryant. So the corner's got to replace. Appreciate,
you gotta replace. You gotta like you're un blocked. Now
you've gotta you've got to get that tackle done. It's

(22:53):
like third and seven and and so the whole week's
you know, the whole It wasn't this week's side. It
was a strong side. The whole the whole perimeter of
that defense. Lost leverage was either two soft bad angles
or lost leverage. And so the dude gets outside and
he slides and you know, you know, so even at
the critical part, there was just a complete lapse of

(23:18):
fundamental football.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Thirty eight to thirty five the final score. Tampa Bay
with the win over the Seahawks. We've got a lot
more to get to. I think we'll take a quick
time out right now. When we come back, we'll get
Hughes take on Sam Donald today. We'll get his take
on whether or not he would have gone for it.
McDonald rolled the dice this time on fourth down and
it paid off for him. We'll get Hughes take on

(23:42):
whether he would have done that or kicked the field goal.
The Jalen Milroe bad pitch. We got to talk about
that as well. We'll hear from Mike McDonald and maybe
a little from Sam Donald in the last half hour
of the show. Tick Faan Hugh Millen live at a
Racus Jimmy's on first. It's weird. Yes, there's a Seahawk loss,
but there's also a massive Mariner game that's starting in

(24:03):
thirty minutes, so there's like much more buzz in the
building than there normally would be after a Seahawk loss.
We'll talk about it more next on ninety three point
three KJRFM.

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Speaker 3 (24:37):
I think for a couple of reasons, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
One of those god, what the hell just happened type losses,
which was kind of my take coming out of this.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
And maybe I'm just maybe I'm just fired.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Up because it's a beautiful seventy degree day and we
got a baseball game across the street in about a
half an hour.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Maybe that's why I'm still in a good mood.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
But uh, Hugh brought up some very very good points
why it was very very concerning what we saw on
the defensive side of football, particularly in the second half.
Let's hear from the head coach and then we'll get
more breakdown from here. Here is Mike McDonald just moments ago.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Obviously very disappointed. Yeah, we our guys. Our guys play
extremely hard, fought all the way to the end. But
I told the team that look this this game, this
game is is is my responsibility.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Okay, that you got to give Tampa Bay a lot
of credit.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
We knew that they would fight to the very last end,
which they've done all year, and they're very tough football team.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
They're a very good football team.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
But I have to I have to do better on
with our defensive game plan and our execution and how
we call it.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
When you put a performance like that, it means.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
That that I didn't prepare them well enough.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
So it hurts its stings.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
It should because our guys work extremely hard and they care.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
But we're going to use this to move forward, and
that's the only thing we can do.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
So we're going to take it on the chin and
move forward tomorrow and learn from it and grow and
go get ready to play our.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Best game against Jacksonville. So it's really that simple.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
Our offense played great, our special teams played great, and
and I'm sure there's things on that end too, you know,
with penalties and things like that that we got to fix.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
But we'll learn from all those things and move forward.
But we have to do that.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
How Big obviously had a lot of injuries at the
back end and play with some different guys there.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I mean, how big a factor was that kind of
their offensive performance?

Speaker 6 (26:18):
Look, they were they were banged up too, So injuries
happened in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
We have to design.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I have to design better plays and put our guys
in better positions consistently for us to play better on defense.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
That's a Sam was obviously colific and had the hiccup
at the end, But how do you assess kind of
the hole at this performance today?

Speaker 6 (26:38):
It was great Sam, Sam played tremendous football game.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
I thought we're gonna have a chance to win.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
The game there at the end, but a couple was
a ninety nine year drive, fourth down extended plays.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
I thought Sam played tremendous.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
You guys have been able to really kind of stipe
the quarterbacks all season long.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
What was it about Baker Because they seemed to have
a lot of guys that will lie open.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
All They did a great job of scheme and stuff open.
We got to we obviously have to play better. I mean,
so it goes both ways, but we did it. They're
a great offense, and uh we just didn't get it done.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
And when you have.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Guys open like that, that can that can happen, and
that's that's my job make sure that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
With the pass rush, was that just the lack of
my pass?

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Was that just a matter of anything that happen the
tank and a deal?

Speaker 6 (27:31):
No, I mean we are guys that we went in
there and played. You know, the expectation is the same,
no matter who's out there. But again, we got to
design better things. Our pressures have to be more locked in,
we got to call them at better times, all those things.
You know, our our pressure coverage was very weak today
and that's something we need to look.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
At as a head coach.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Mike McDonald after a thirty eight five loss and kind
of falling right into your herds there, Hugh, and he
talked about that, He talked about the pressure covers. He
also said what he needs to be better and so
what were what would be the main cliff notes overhanging
bullet points that you have for Mike McDonald today and

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where he needs to be better.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, some matchups that I just don't like.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
I don't want free access on third and twelve with
Josh Job against a Mecho Buca the safety to that side. Yeah,
you got two safeties back there, but the way they
they schemed a crossing route coming from the opposite side,
that's gonna get Okada's attention, who's the safety to his
side and Kobe Bryant's the safety to the other side.

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So that's basically one on one and by the way,
credit to Mecca. A lot of receivers would go three
steps to the out. He knew that job was a
little bit outside leverage, so he just went one step
and went and went inside. So this is a guy,
a rookie playing with great veteran presence that the pressures
the McDonald likes to his own pressures. And and they

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had thet they're hot receivers of just going to six
or seven yards turning around. And Baker Mayfield, we talked
Thursday at the roundtable, Like, Baker Mayfield to me, plays
really fast. His feeder fast, his mind is fast, he's
got a quick release. He's certainly that you know, he
throws the ball hard. The ball is fast, like he
is a fast quarterback at this stage.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
And uh, and you know he's one of I don't think.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
He's in the top two or three quarterbacks, but I
think he's probably in the top five or six quarterbacks
in this league.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Right is whatever that next level is after the Lamars,
Josh Allen's and Mahomes, Baker Mayfield is in it.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
He's in the next one.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
And he's got the most touchdowns over the last three
years of anybody in the league. Like he's doing a
lot of good stuff. And and and when you consider
the clutch performance that he's doing this year. He's arguab
as I said, I think I think duty would compel
you to give him the MVP if you had to
vote today, right, I mean, given what he's doing, he's
right there.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I mean, gosh, Allen's undefeated and and he's putting up
Megan numbers too.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
But yes, I mean he's he is right there.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
There's no well, it'd be depending on how much do
you weigh what Baker Mayfield's doing in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
If you weigh that, then he's a runaway.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
He's like secretary in the Belmont like, he's a runaway
like like because now they got four wins and they're
all come from behind in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
So so, but but I would say.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Uh, I don't think that they had the stunts. I
don't think they fooled Baker Mayfield enough, you know, coming
off the edge.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I mean they finally got a sack there.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Uh with edge pressure, but but you know they didn't
get enough of that.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
And they're their covers.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
How they communicate the end routes where you know, the
the the the shallow guys and then there's intermediate and
there's deep and they they gave up so many intermediate cuts,
the the the the linebacker and safety level, the second
level of the defense. They've got to back up and
they've got a guard from the top down and from

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their level, their top down is intermediate to shallow. If
you're the if you're a back line defender, if a
safety or corner what have and you have deep responsibility,
you defend top down, you know, the deep stuff, the
posts and goes down to the intermediate.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So they just they are not communicating.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
They didn't I should say, they did not communicate those
those intermediate routes today. And and you know I and
the matchup, I said, you know, you Pritch, it comes in.
You don't want to be you don't want to be
on third and fifteen in press coverage with you know,
the balls on the left hash have the safety you know,
hugging the hash that's basically one on one with press.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
No, that doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. So
I think, but I would say.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
This, it's one of the things I really really like
about Mike McDonald. He said, and he said, how many
times did he say in some derivative of I've got
to be better?

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, So he a capacity.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
He has a capacity to be accountable in ways that,
for some reason Jedfish refuses to do. We never hear
that kind of accountability from Jedfish. It's always the execution
was wrong, which is a load of horse dumb. And
so you know, if you're gonna be critical for a
coach for having that week response, then to me, I'm

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gonna tip my hat to a guy Mike McDonald stepping
up giving a role in leadership in this town, a
role a model for leadership on how to how to
be accountable here.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
If the Seahawks would have won this game, we would
be talking about the ninety nine yard touchdown drive, we'd
be talking about the fourth down conversion for not only
a first down, but a touchdown, and we would be
talking about Sam Darnold the coming out party as a
Seattle Seahawk quarterback, three hundred and forty one yards, four touchdowns,

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a passer rating of one thirty. But unfortunately, what most
people will only remember is the interception off the helmet
that helped cost the team the game.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I do not want to push.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Aside what Sam Donald did today on this radio show,
because that was as impressive as seahak quarterback performance as
I've seen in a long long time. Now, am I
blowing that up? I mean, his own coach said, quote,
he played tremendous. Would you agree that Sam Donald played tremendous?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Absolutely, And And look, look, I don't mean we'll touch
on some philosophy. I have the philosophy all in all sports,
luck plays a part at some point in every sport.
I don't want to give all the you know, from
golf to basketball to baseball. Course, some luck is a
factor in every game. Sometimes you can say you create

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your own luck. Okay, we could have a long, you know,
pitcher of beer over that one too. Sam Donald was
attempting to throw to point A. The football went to
point B because because it carrimd off of a helmet.
And you know there's times where you say, well the
quarterback could have avoided the unlucky situation. I'm gonna look

(34:10):
at that thing, really, you know, under fine tooth comb
before tomorrow morning. But my stance right now is that
was just the football gods just didn't smile on the
Seahawks on that play.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
It was very it was very critical, and but you.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Know, you could, like like the number of great plays
he's making such good decisions. He's checking down when he
needs to check down. He's throwing the ball down the
field when he could that that touchdown at the end
of the second quarter to pull within thirteen to seven
where they motion out of JSN, you know, and he's
the number one receiver, the whitest guy that to process

(34:51):
everything that he had to that's a that's a three
D defense, which resembles a baseball Okay, we got baseball
in our Minds'll let me talk baseball.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
And here real quick, I just want to paint the
picture for everybody that was on six seconds left before
half in a situation here where I thought they butchered
clock management there. I thought they had twenty or twenty
five extra seconds that they let spill and they were
going to eat a time out. They still had a
timeout left, and they scored that touchdown with six seconds left,
so go ahead.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, I think that they were saying, if he doesn't
get the touchdown, he's going to get a checkdown and
then you know, and then a timeout, then take one.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
So but at this point Tampa is just.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Like, hey, it's one play to defend, you know, like
back up, back up, because we can rally to a checkdown,
make the tackle, and then that becomes a four point
That was a four point play. The different whoever wins
this play is going to get a net four points
because you figure automatically Seattle has three. Now you're just
going for the extra four, right, Tampa Bay already knows

(35:55):
that the Seahawks have three points for that possession, right,
But it's a net four point. Like, think of how
interested you get you get on the edge of your
seat for a two point play.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, four point all the time.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
And and and I think as fans, we gotta recognize
this is a four point play.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Whoever wins this play gets a net four points.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
So so again I likened it to baseball because it's
a three D four hunder. I want to think of
a baseball infield and outfield. You got three outfielders and
four infielders. That's exactly what a cover three is. And
so to carry with the analogy, we're gonna put Jackson
Smith and jigob Away over kind of you know, now,
I understand there's parallel sidelines versus perpendicular, and so you

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gotta kind of work with the analogy. But we're gonna
try and take Jackson Smith and Jego line it up
wide and then run him right into the spot into
into shallow right field. We're gonna And so there's four
guys who four potential defenders. The center fielder, the right fielder,
the second basement, in the first basement. But I just
created an analogy, and in your mind's eye, you're thinking

(36:57):
of a big old baseball field. Now take that and
shrink it by about ninety percent. And now that everybody
all the there's a box between the second basement and
the first basement, the center fielder and the right fielder.
It's a little tiny box because it's it's in a
little tiny area of the field in the red zone.
And and Sam Darnold had to anticipate I'm gonna get

(37:20):
it over the second basement, the first basement isn't gonna
fall in. The right fielder isn't gonna drive on the ball,
and old ball, by the way, the converging defender, the
center fielder, if I'm even a tick late, he's either
gonna blow the play up or intercept it. And to
be able to anticipate how Jasn was gonna get in there,
that might be too much time. On one play, I
just thought, yeah, I have a text string with some

(37:42):
some some buddies, and I'm like that play. At halftime,
I go that that pass is a lot more difficult
than it looks.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
And then you know the pass to.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Horden for the touchdown on fourth down, that was nothing
sort of heroic.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Would you have gone for the way? Would you have
gone forward or kick field? You know, I'll tell you,
I'm honest. I would have kicked the field goal. I
mean I would have kicked the field goal. But I'm
more conservative when it comes to that. I know we're
in twenty twenty five now. I mean in any time
in your my childhood or young adulthood, there's no question
they would have kicked the field goal.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I mean that's just the.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Way we were raised that like, why the hell wouldn't
you take the lead with the field goal. But this
is the era of analytics, and it worked out for
the Seahawks.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
And given how Seattle was playing defense and how well
Baker Mayfield was playing, that's true.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
But put this way, I have not been basketball. I
mean as an analyst.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
You know, Week one I was killing McDonald, like, hey,
you got really tepid there on that on that fourth
and one he didn't go for it. Those were different circumstances.
I was really against that. And then there was other
times where he he did not go for it, and
I thought he made the right choice. I think it's like,

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you know, no two snowflakes are the same. I think,
no two circumstances the same. So I don't think the
analytics and sabermetrics all apply. I think you have to.
You have to just kind of have a thermometer about
all the elements, including the math behind the analytics.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I was having said all that, Yeah, tell me about
tell me how to play.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I mean, I thought the pocket was the pocket was collapsed,
and I thought he was dead to rights. I thought
he was gonna get sacked, or I thought he was
gonna throw an incompletion, like when he found Horton. I
was like, how the hell did he do that?

Speaker 5 (39:26):
We're five games into the season, and if we had
a a highlight reel of just Sam Darnold showing his athleticism,
getting out of trouble and finding completions, often in very
crucial situations, Hell, Pittsburgh, if he doesn't beat Patrick Queen
and get that twenty seven yonder. Maybe Seattle was losing
that game, Maybe you lose to the Steelers. Like his

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athleticism has been very sneaky, but very consistent. It shows
up a lot, and it shows up in really big times.
And I'm gonna say it again, I'm gonna use the
same magictive that touch down. And if Seattle wins that game,
we're sitting here saying that touchdown was heroic. His ability
like I don't even know, you know, if ESPN had

(40:09):
a at a success probability, if they could just freeze,
there's a point where the chances, Yeah, at one point,
there's a point where it'd have been less than five percent.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Absolutely, So before we go, a couple of things. One
just overall, we gotta we gotta throw some flowers to
the Seahawk wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Well, we gotta get to Milrow, and we gotta get to.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Give give me, give me a give me a minute
on the Seahawk wide receiving cores.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
And are we are we.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Now comfortable with what this team has as their wide
receivers because they were amazing today. Wasn't just Sam. The
wide receivers were fantastic day. Give me a minute on
that and then we'll be and then we'll wrap things up.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Barnard was huge. Yah, yeah, Barnard was huge all day.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
I still would like to see you know, Cup is
like the master of the five yard hitch uh and
and and knowing when to sit down and and and
Darnald's got to thread that needle at that precise time.
But I still feel like, though he's aging, there's got
to be something more from him. I think Tory Horton
is gonna be on the incline JSN is, you know,

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but to catch.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Us out sidelines.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Dude, that that juggling cat, I mean, that was That
was Steve Largent esque on a fiftieth anniversary day.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
You know, between a Mecca and Jaysn, they they put
on a lesson for us if we're paying attention and
we're taking notes. Between a Mecca and JASN, they have
very similar traits up and down their their skill set,
but the traits of high IQ body control and unbelievable

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hands not like and tracking ability like elite next shelf
next level ability to catch the football. So often we
get enamored with the guy's size, speed, what have you,
but having elite ball skills.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
That was on display today unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
All right, before we go before, yeah, here we go,
before we wrap things up. Jalen Milroe the fumble that
ended up costing seven points because Tampa Bay would go
down seven plays, four minutes and fifteen seconds fifty nine
yards for the touchdown to take a thirteen nothing lead.
Seattle was marching pretty well. They had good field positions,
started their own forty one. They had a pass to

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JSN for four, ken Walker for two, Darnold the cup
for five, and then a first down pass to AJ
Barner for ten yards. You're in Tampa, Yes, you're in
Tampa territory. You're marching, and for some reason we decide
to go gimmick there.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I don't mind going Jaln Milroe gimmick, but that seemed
to be an odd time.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
He yeah, okay, here here's my breakdown your first and
ten at the plus thirty eight, you're only down six
to nothing and there's just six and a half minutes
to go, right, Yep. This is a day and age
where more that we've seen more and more athletic quarterbacks,
have we not? Yes, how many times do you see
a speed option?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
And if You're like, I'm a little older than you.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
But I've I've lived through ears with a lot of
different options. I've lived through the wistbone era. Uh in
the Oklahoma, the v the the Houston veer.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
That's a different type of option, the Nebraska eye option,
Little Jammel, little jam l Holloway.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
We don't you don't, yeah, Jamel, Yeah exactly, Tom Thomas
a lot.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
I could go through all those guys. I'm dating myself
right there with that difference.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
But but the idea that you're going to take the
quarterback and immediately press the edge, and and Canine was
in the pistol, so he was right behind him. And
you know, it's basically like seals basically in a wildcat formation.
Until Jalen Milroe throws the ball, defenses are just gonna
say they're running the ball.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Win number six is in the game. So now you run.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
The speed option where the entire defense is gonna flow
and the guy the quarterback is flowing to the outside.
He has no angles, he weighs one hundred pounds, he
can't cut up right. And then the guy that you're
pitching to is out flank. So everybody who's flowing to
the quarterback. Oh guess what, they're also flowing to the
pitch man. So that's why you don't that's why you

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don't see it. And and proof of my position. If
you're gonna beat me in this argument, you're gonna have
to present to me a bunch of plays with Lamar
Jackson and Kyler Murray and whomever you know, Josh, whoever
you think are the best running quarterbacks, Jade Daniels.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
You're gonna have to present.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
To me in modern day football, a bunch of speed
options that work. And guess what, good luck, because it's
gonna be a feudal effort. The speed option, there's a
reason it doesn't work in the NFL. Hell, it doesn't
work in college anymore. People who run options, they don't
run that. Hell, you're more likely to see an inverted
option where the quarterback is does a shovel thet underneath

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several passes underneath, you know, options off the end, but
instead of pitching behind him, he pitches in front of
him on a like a tight end a wing back. Uh,
you know, cost that's not a fumble. Yeah, but but
but you're also you're optioning off the end. The speed
option was it was a loser. It doesn't work. No,
I'm not saying I'm I just made an absolute term.

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And and if you wanted to present me one option what.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Doesn't play where it did, it doesn't usually work. I
would say this. The probabilities, let me be sound in
my communication.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
The probabilities are extremely low for the reasons I'm trying
to describe. So it was very ill conceived. It was
first and ten. And by the way, for mil Row,
if we have to, you know, just run forward and
and and you know, get no game. We can try
and survive second and tent.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Right. Here's another thing. He's a right handed quarterback.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
He was pitching the non dominant men, right, Okay, so
now he gives.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
A a a high.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
And behind and too hot short side too. I mean,
I know the hashes are narrower, but white side.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
No, it's not, sort of but but but it was.
There was three errors on the pitch. It was it
was too high, it was behind K nine and it
and it was too hot. It came in too pay.
But you're asking a guy who's been sitting for two weeks.
You know, this is the third play of the season

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in five So it's less than one player per game,
and you're asking him to make a pitch with his
non dominant hand on a scheme specifically the speed option.
The speed option you don't see it in the NFL.
And you don't see it because just watch the Buccaneers
how they flowed.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
They and while.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
They're throwing to the quarterback, Oh, guess what, they're also
in a great position to defend the pitch man. And
then you're losing four yards. So the idea that that
all of a sudden, you're just gonna like, like Dreek Young, Yeah,
he missed the block in the perimeter.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Guess what.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Those blocks are really freaking hard. And had Dreek Young
made his block, there were still three guys there to
uh to totally foil the play.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
So it just it's night.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
There's a little bit of hindsight what I'm saying, but
it's mostly foresight. Don't run the speed option too.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Much time, don't actually practice that. How much time of
the out of practice would they actually spending that point.
I mean, I can't imagine they're spending a lot of
practice time practicing.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
But they may have.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
They may spend a lot of time post practice where
you know, for all I know, they grabbed Jalen Mirroe
and and he's done forty five minutes. So I try
and be you know, I don't. I try as an
analyst not to just talk out of my ass. And
if I were to tell you that I know how
much they'd practice that, I'd be talking out of my ass.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
So I'm not gonna Hugh, you were excellent, man, you
were excellent today. Passion break it down first time for everything.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Well, wait, we're gonna We're gonna save your game, Mariners,
Save this day.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Save this day. Mariners. You will see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
We'll hear you on the morning show, and then you'll
be on with Me and Softy tomorrow four o'clock, More
at four with Hugh Breed, love Millon, Love It, Camberdaw
Thanks Man, Hugh Breed, love Millon, Thanks to Jackson Fells
for running the show.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
It's five o'clock. Straight up.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
The Seahawks lose a really entertaining thirty eight to thirty
five game. But the bottom line is they lost, and
now they followed three and two. But I will say this,
I said this during the game, and I'm gonna say
this again. That was a heavyweight battle between two of
the top three or four teams in the NFC. I
truly believe that you want to say Philadelphia's better, Fine,

(48:34):
you want to say Detroit's better, Okay, you want.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
To say San Francisco's better? Other than that Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I mean, those were two playoff teams that battled today
thirty eight to thirty five, and Tampa got the win
by three Gohawks.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
More importantly for today, gom Mariners.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
As Timobile Park is filling up across the strait, Dick
Fane saying solo from Jimmy's on First, Thanks to Hugh,
thanks to Jackson. I'll be with Safty tomorrow from the
Emerald Queen Casino at three o'clock. This has been a
presentation of ninety three point three kJ RFM, the twelve
Man Post Game Show, live from Jimmy's on First.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
See ya