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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Colorado based comedian Josh Blue Back on the
Brett Sonders podcast this week. He just released his memoir
Something to Stare At. This brilliant individual can't be slowed
down by cerebral palsy. Josh is doing a book signing,
art show and launch party at twenty six oh one
Blake Street in Denver on Friday, August eighth. It's seventy
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three art Agency Rhino. This is pretty exciting, Josh Blue
That is correct. That's like an art gallery. Yeah, you're
an artsy guy. Now everybody knows that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, you do present my tenth art show.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Congratulations, things. Let's talk about your art for just a
second before we discuss the book. You're wearing one of
your t shirts right now with one of your famous pigs.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, and that's what the art show is going to
be is all pigs. This thing just big ones, all sizes.
So I've been doing that pig for years on every
dressing room wall all over the world. So tend my
signature and I was like, I've never done a show
with this. They're big and colorful and cheap. I placed
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them to move.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Like when I was a kid, my parents would drive
past a gas station, there'd be people selling paintings outside.
It's like that, yeah, but instead of mountain scapes or horses,
these are pigs.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Pigs, good old American pig.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What inspires you to paint pigs?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Would you do?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Very well?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I don't know. Man's some stupid thing I started doing
as a kid and just stuck. And people are like, oh,
those are cool? Is just going?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, listen, if you want a painting of a pig
on your wall, I can't think of a better pig
than a Josh blue pig.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
A blue pig.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, that's right, that's nice. All right again, it's Friday.
Let's talk about this new book, Josh, Something to Stare At.
What a title. When you told me this title about
a month or so ago, I couldn't stop laughing. Yeah, man,
what's behind Something to Stare At? The title?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, it's from a long time ago, when, like you know,
at a young age, I realized, because because of my disability,
that people were gonna stare at me, regardless of what
was going on, just because of the way I move.
So then my thought was like, well, they're gonna be
staring at me, I might as well give them something
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to stare at it. So I was like, yeah, it
was kind of like I might as well get something
out of this too. You can't just enjoy the way
I walk for free. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you something.
And that just all ties into becoming a comic and
you know, be coming in the limelight and doing all
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these things.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know, now, Josh self deprecating as you can be,
there's a sensitive heart beating under that comic exterior. And
that's one of the I mean I already knew that
because we're pals, but yeah, that's one of the things
I took away from this book, which I texted you
last night to tell you what I thought about the book.
It's very moving and smart. Just you're a very smart,
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sensitive person, and I like that you let them that
you let that side show in this book.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well thanks, Yeah. I mean, you know my comedy, you've
seen me over the years of and you see the
progression of my life through my stand up, but maybe
you don't see the other side of you know, it's
not all happy. There's some hard things that got to
me that got me to this point.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, how did you know you were funny? How
old were you when you knew you were genuinely funny?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think it was not till like high school where
I realized it was like a different level than other people.
Always funny, but when you're a kid, you don't know nothing,
you know what I mean. But then all of a sudden,
everyone's like, you're funny all the time. And I just
had the I've always had the timing, the impeccable timing,
so you know, the teacher would say something and I'd
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just fire a shot like one well and the whole class,
including the teacher, would laugh, you know. So that's just
kind of when I started realizing, oh, this is a
little diff than other people. Then when I got to college,
that's when it really solidified and people were like, dude,
you're not You're funny all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What about your first stand up performance? What do you
remember about that? And is that when you knew this
is the thing I'm going to be doing.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean I started in college. I was like on
open mic nights for like poetry and music, and then
I went up there and did a little you know,
told some stories and it got least. What I do
remember is just being petrified and so scared and so
stage fright and you know, being disabled that like I said,
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I was giving you something a sterareop. But it didn't
mean that I wasn't still terrified and self conscious and
you know, just yeah, just being scared and really not
knowing what the hell I was doing either. You know,
stand up when you start that young. I wasn't, like
I said, I wasn't at a comedy club. There's no
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other comics. It's just me doing that. But it got
such an amazing response that, like the next week, I
went back to the open mic night and there was
like seventy people there just to see me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I know that because when I was done, everybody left.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So there were other comics that come other.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like musicians and stuff, but.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They were dead in the water. Yeah, they might as
well not even have shown up on stage.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And I still feel that way.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Do you still get because when I see you perform,
you're so collected and calm. Do you still get a
little worked up? Do you get the jitters for lack
of a better And I'm sure there's.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I already have the jitters, man, look at me, No
I do. There's there's a level of of nerves to it,
but it's not overwhelming. I mean, maybe if it's like
a Tonight show or something, then I'll get a little
more nervous. But for me, I've done thousands of shows
at this point and they've all gone pretty well. I'm
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not saying I've never bombed, but it's few and far between.
So I was like thinking, like, why would tonight be
the night that night bomb? You know, I just have
this weird gift of being able to weasele my way
out of most situations.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I found among many interesting anecdotes in this book that
South Park, an episode of South Park, I motivated you
differently than maybe it would motivate other people. I thought
this was a good story.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I mean it was right when I was studying
stand up in college and doing it and I had
my like final performance coming up on campus, and then
the episode of South Park came out where they introduced Timmy.
You know, Jimmy. Timmy is the one in the wheelchair.
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Jimmy showed up and he was the one with crutches
and he was a stand up comic and motivational speaker.
And it basically it's like destroyed everything that I thought
I was doing, Like they were just making fun of
my career path. I was like, oh, my friends literally
watched it like slack jawed. We were all together watching it,
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and everyone's like stun silence, like did you write this?
Like this is exactly you? And it really shook me
up because I was like, Okay, I don't want to
be viewed as Jimmy, you know what I mean, like
this kind of corny disabled comedy. I feel like there's
a weird stigma to disabled comedy or it's kind of
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like cheesy.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Or corny or deliberately heartwarming.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right, heartwarming, And as you know, I am not heartwarming.
I'm heart cooling.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Do you think that Matt and Trey were reacting to
your Probably not because it was early yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean it wasn't even a career. I was just
a college kid doing stand up. They never heard of me.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So about now have they heard of you? Now?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I doubt if they haven't had me on yet to
beat up Jimmy and Timmy. But I mean it's pretty
amazing though, that that really like it. I was in
stun shock for weeks after watching that. I think SOUTHI
those guys are so funny, so good.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Sure, So now you were also on the mind of Mencia,
and you opened for Carlos and Sea for a while. Yeah,
I had no idea, and I don't think our listeners
have any idea either, in spite of the fact that
he gave you an incredible break. But you often had
to pay for your own transportation, and you did some
of those gigs even though they were such high profile gigs.
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You did those at a loss just to get the experience.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, I lost money a lot of times doing it.
But I was opening in front of three to six
thousand people on a nightly basis, and as a young comic,
I couldn't have paid. You know, you were well, it was,
but that experience took me so far as like, once
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I got the last comic standing, it was old hat
because I had already been in front of those big stages.
So I feel like that opportunity to and I did
see the value in it, you know what I mean, Like, Oh,
this is worth my couple extra bucks to get to
get this level of comfort.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You mentioned a couple of extra bucks, and being on
that tour taught you something about your opening acts and
whether or not you let them sell merch Because my
understanding is you weren't allowed to sell your own merch,
which is how a lot of you guys, because listen,
it's shocking to me how much how little money you
made on these tours. Right, So, but you you can
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extend a hand of friendship to your opening acts.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I make sure everyone is welcome to sell their
merch at my merch, but like, I insist that they
are with me on the same table, and I think
that increases their sales, maybe through guilt but whatever. But yeah,
I just understand the monetary value of letting these openers,
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who the pay between a headliner and opener is quite bad.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But you're a headliner now, yeah, which, no, it really
is remarkable. You probably don't want to go into figures,
but I mean our listeners can sort of do the
mental math knowing that you're on the road with an
internationally recognized comedian and you're partially paying for your way.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, and I'm doing two hundred trows a year. And
my other thing is I do pay for my opener's
airfare as well and hotel. A lot of times.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You have the heart of comic gold.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, but it's again, I feel like it's the right
thing to do, and you give these folks a chance
to like show this club what they got. And you know,
I brought my friend Janee this weekend to Portland and
at then the weekend they were like, we can't wait
to bring Jane back. So that to me is like
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worth every penny to see my friends get to succeed
off of my cotails.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You know, your road to success has been fraught with obstacles.
There was one I think she was a social worker,
who tried to stand in your way. And I think
a lot of people, again, when they see somebody of
your stature, they don't realize some of the things that
you've had to go through. But there was this one
individual who basically told you you should do something else,
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and she was pretty strident in that position.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, I was trying to get some government assistance through
a program. Basically, they just provide services to help disable
people become contributed members of the workforce and society. A
lot of times disabled people can do a job, they
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just might need a little different technology or something. They're
just as good at the job, they just have a
different path to get there. So I went to this
company like, hey, I want to be a stand up
comic and she was like, maybe you should try something
more realistic, and I was like, well, you ain't never
seen me perform, because I knew I was going places.
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I was like, well, you can either be attached to
my name or not. And eventually I got good money.
They produced my first CD, Good Josh, Bad Arm, and yeah,
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But I think a lot of individuals would have been
discouraged by that because when somebody tells you this is
not realistic, somebody in a position of relative authority, right,
that can be very defeating.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, and the only way I was able to navigate
the system, which is a system that's supposedly there to
help the disabled community.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I know a little bit about this.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's very many hoops and things to jump through that
this group that you're supposedly helping isn't good at doing.
So I had to get an advocate. I ended up
getting a lawyer and he came in and he straightened her. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I mean, it's it's a shame that I had to
do it that way. But I heard that that company
that was providing the services sent back like four million
dollars the year before because they're like, we can't find anybody.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
To help, and it was crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And it was just because the process to get the
funds were so complicated that it weeded out the people
that you're trying to help.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Was there a factor through all of the challenges and
the setbacks as well as the victories. Was there something
that made you stick with this over the years? Was
there something that drove you?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I mean, you've seen my show. You see what I'm
doing up there. It's just like a natural thing. I
love doing it, and I'm at a point in my
career where i can say I am really good at this.
So then it's like I just knew that if I
stuck with it and kept going, then I will be here.
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And here I am, you know, twenty twenty five years
into a career and still selling out everywhere I go,
and it just feels great. You know, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
This book only takes us to last comic standing, yep,
and it's aftermath, so I assume that there will be more. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
There's what I learned is when you're writing an autobiography,
it's really hard to catch up to your actual life.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You can only do it in increments. Because I ain't
dead yet, are you sure. Well, that's actually a good question.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
This book is wonderful something to stare at. You've given
us all something to stare at, Josh.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I will continue to.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And there's a book signing, art show and launch party
this Friday from six to nine thirty. I'm sorry, seventy
three Art Regency in Rhino is at twenty six and
one Blake Street. Pick up a photo of a pig,
not a photo, a painting, a painting and painting. And
there's links on my website to the event. It's a
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ticketed event, but the ticket gets your book. We're going
to have illegal Pete is sponsoring it and shout.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
After that, Yeah, what a good guy. And uh drinks
and a Q and A and book signing. So come
meet me, come hang out. You got He's.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
One of the loveliest people I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Josh Blue. Comedy is my social media where the links
will be.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Wait, listen to this guy. He gets it.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I know. I can't believe you read the book.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Of course I read the book. You're my friend. It's wonderful. Well,
thanks man, something to stare at, Josh Blue. It's always
good seeing you. We'll see you next month. When you
come in with another thing.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You're the best man, all right, Go sell another mattress.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Thank you for listening. I'll see you next time. It's
the Brett Sonders Podcast.