November 10, 2024 • 36 mins
The Boys are back and break down a tough loss on the road to Penn State as the Huskies are looking to make a Bowl appearance.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
All right, Doc Vans, here we go. We are back
on a what is this Saturday? Sunday morning. I'm not
even sure what the hell we're doing here Monday morning.
I kind of lost all of my mental capacity down
twenty eight to nothing at halftime, to be totally honest
with you, and I was commenting to Mario and Greg
here that I'm wondering why we're not packing booze with
us on these trips. If there's ever a game to
have a flask or maybe a couple of shots of
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crack and rum Pendleton whiskey, something like that, this would
have been the night to do it. Oh my god,
this was a total throttling by Penn State Today by Washington,
no question about it. Thirty five to six final it's
the first time that you Dub has not scored a touchdown, period, guy,
since U Dub and Sark went to baton Rouge and
Death Valley. We were both there at that game, greg
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and lost forty one to three. Remember you Dub got
a fumble on the opening kickoff and was held out
of the end zone, and then USC Roles excuse me,
Lsu rolled off forty one consecutive points. So that's the
last time the Huskies played a game without scoring a touchdown.
It was twelve years ago. The last time they played
the game without scoring an offensive touchdown. Byron Murphy saved
the day and won the Pac twelve against Utah back
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in twenty eighteen with a pick six and the Huskies
won the game ten to three. But here we are
six years later and Washington is five and five, and
everything is on the table I think right now for
this football team, including decisions that quarterback, decisions on the
offensive line, decisions on the defensive side of the ball.
This was a game where Penn State took the ball
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on the first four drives of the game and just
shoved it right down Udub's throat. They score four consecutive
touchdowns and the only reason why you Dub even got
on the board to begin with in the second half
is because Tyler Warren had a fumble that was forced
by Carson Bruner and U Dub was able to pick
it up and turn that into a field goal. So,
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I mean, guys, just a complete and thorough disaster tonight
for Washington. Another reminder that they are just not ready
yet to play at this level of football.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Correct, Yeah, you know, this is one of those games
where it looked like one team was ranked in the
top ten in the country.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It looked like one team was playing a big game
with a lot going forward, a lot on the line.
It looked like one team had a lot of experienced players.
Looked like one team is poised to have a run
of the playoffs. It looked like the other team is
rebuilding and really not ready to play in this conference
with the big time teams. I mean, they won every
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phase of the game. There was nothing to me that
we did in this football game that was positive other
than maybe a couple plays by a true freshman quarterback
and a middle linebacker who's playing hurt and banged up
and beat up. Our offensive line got their tails kicked tonight.
There's no one on that side of the ball that
should feel good about this performance. And then defensively, they
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were at one point, I believe it was nine for
nine third down conversions. We couldn't get off the field
to save our lives. And then, you know, like you
said on once they got a converted a second down,
he said, oh there's another, Oh they didn't get the
third down. So there were so many plays that the
defense had that were negative plays for them. It was
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not a phase of this football game where Washington looked
like a competent football team.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Mario, Yeah, do you ever enjoy it?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah? Fun here?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
We just got our bus kicked.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
I just felt like we talked about pregame, about playing
a clean game. It didn't even matter what type of
game we played. We just came out here and got
our bus kicked. The offensive line really struggled. I thought
our offense couldn't get anything. I thought we started off great,
had a great drive. I think we had maybe twelve
to fourteen plays, and then that thirteen fifteen plays, and
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then that that played the third down was just a
horrible call, and then it was just downhill from there.
Our field goal kicker seems to struggle on the road
as well. Our offensive line, our defense could not stop them.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Greg talked about it.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
I think they were seven for seven in the first
half on third down conversion, eighth for eight the targeting
call that started off and got the first touchdown, like
they could just do anything they wanted to on offense,
and defensively, we just we struggled, and our defense is
our best unit. And to struggle like that and give
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up four touchdowns and four drives in the first half,
the game was never in doubt.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, let's let's just go back to that first drive
of the game. First of all, Husky talk postgame brought
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ready to accept all challenges. So it's funny you mentioned
that first drive. It was actually a thirteen play drive
because two of those plays were called back due to penalties. Okay, thanks,
so there were the ball was snapped fifteen times, but
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technically you hey, look, if you guys want the credit,
will get you. Dub had. That drive was a thirteen play,
forty two yard drive that took seven minutes off the clock.
Jonah Coleman I believe had seven carries on that drive
and it ended with Grady Gross hitting them right upright
and clanking a field goal off the upright and it
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was no good from that point on. U dubs. Following
three drives were two fifty seven, a buck fifty one,
a buck thirty. They did not have a four plus
minute drive again until they were down twenty eight to nothing.
I mean, this was a complete collapse on both sides
of the ball. And you mentioned the play call on
third and four. It's kind of a stretch play that
Jonah Coleman that lost six yards. Why did you think
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that was a problem there on third down?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
I just always think it's a problem. I think there's
a problem with creativity. That play should not have been called.
I talk about it with real rogers, and we're trying
to like an option that was maybe the short side
of the field, it might have been the white side, but.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
That just call from third and four. I just don't
think we should have been running the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Well, you know, play call is certainly an issue at
certain times, but when your offensive line cannot block and
when I mean not fight fighting, they get beat. But
when a guy comes off the line of scrimmage and
you whiff right out the.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Game, and yeah, it looks like Ola blocks you.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Really, it doesn't matter what plays you call you guys,
this was a sound whipping right at the offensive line
of scrimmage. And after we got out of that first drive,
it was the left tackle, then the right tackle, then
the left guard. Everybody took a chance, an opportunity to
have some really bad plays. And I don't know what
your skilled players are able to do that. And frankly,
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you know, it wasn't a great game for Rogers. I'm
not going to pretend like he played well today. You
know the interception, he just threw it up for grabs. Yeah,
but it didn't matter who's at quarterback. For the most
of this game, they were kicking our butts right and
up at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
And you know, Saft that you corrected the person who
said they have.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Thirty seven sacks coming in this game that they only
had seventeen. Well, they look like a team who had
thirty seven sacks coming in based on the way our
offensive line was blocking.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So you know, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
There was anything anybody could have done outside of you
know what was happening right there at the snap of
the ball, and those guys who were nosed to nose,
we got whipped right out the gate from those positions.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
This center, Yeah, two guards.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And the tackle, no question about it. I mean, they
had five sacks tonight Penn State, did you dub had none?
Sacks do count as tackles for loss in college football,
by the way, So Penn State had nine TfL, so
four extra tackles for loss on top of the sacks
took away demand you dubb had none. Demon Williams runs
for thirty eight yards, but he got sacked three times
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and lost twenty seven yards because sacks and college football
on like the NFL, come off rushing yards for quarterbacks,
which I've always thought is stupid, but that's the way
they do it in college football. So let's just go
back and talk about the ejection for a second, because
that seemed to just suck a lot of wind out
of the Husky sales. I mean, Daddius Dixon has been
I think their best cornerback the entire year, and he
gets ejected on a targeting call on Evans. It looked
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to me like it was the right call. Lowers his
head looked like he may have made contact with his helmet.
But you know, I said to you, Greg Man, I
was there the night Curtis Williams got paralyzed at Stanford,
you know, over twenty years ago, and watching a young
guy do that with his head and dip it like
that scares the hell out of me. Man, So I
thought it was the right call. It's unfortunate, but I'm
glad it happened in the first half and not the
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second half because if it's the second half, he's missing
the first half of UCLA, right.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, And you know, it's unfortunate because football is such
an instinctive game and there's not a lot of time
sometimes to make a you know, decision on how you're
going to hit someone or make a tack when it's
right there to spur the moment. I didn't think he
lowered his head intentionally. I think he was just caught
in a position now the letter of the rule book
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that was targeting. Absolutely, he used and led with the
crown of his head made contact with the face mask
of the other player, so it's targeting. And I understand
why I got thrown out and I understand what they're
trying to do. He can say, it's just in the
and they'll spare the moments when you're coming off blocks
and you're making tackles, you're just trying to get the
guy down.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We thought it was a great hitting, real tie.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But unfortunately it takes your best defender other than Carson
Bruner and your best pass defender off the field right
at the beginning of the game. And what momentum you
think you're getting from a big play and a big
tackle least to a first down for the other team,
They get some momentum, and they didn't need a lot
of help today. I mean, they didn't any help at all.
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They were kicking our butts, you know, up front, so well,
so that was just a bad omen or a bad
sign right off. First we missed the field goal was
the first bat sign. Then that happens. I don't think
from there there was more than maybe three or four
positive plays the entire game. For that, we don't need
to do a breakdown of this. Let's just say this,
Penn State looked great. The Husty stunk, and they won
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the football game.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
By a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well. Jonah Coleman had seven carries in the first quarter
and four of the rest of the way. I mean,
part of it is because you're down twenty eight nothing,
you tossed the rule book out of the way. But
I don't know, man, I mean this offensive line look,
I mean, it felt like they stuck with the same
five guys for the most part the entire game until
injury five got hurt and they had to bring in
Swane at left tackle. But it really was disappointing for
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me because I guess I thought, guys, the performance Mario
I saw from the offensive line tonight was the performance
I thought we would see in the first maybe month
of the year, not in the third to last game.
I thought maybe by game ten they'd be more I
guess ready, for lack of a better word, to go
toe to toe with a team like this, and obviously
they're not.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
The most disappointing part for me was at towards the
end of the game, it felt like they gave up
and we put the young man in the game, and
I believe that's what you and Greg have been worried about,
about him getting out there and getting killed. But Coach
Fish shouldn't be calling seven step drop back passes at
the end of the game while these guys are coming
and they're blitzing a freshman the.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Offensive line I started.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
They started off the game great, but as the game
went on, and Greg's talked about this before too, in
the second half on both sides, defensive line and offensive
line seem to struggle because we don't have that much depth.
But we need to figure something out in these last
two games.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, this to me was a case of my guys
are just way better than your dudes. And it's just
as simple as that. I don't care, softie, if this
is week one or week ten. Penn State's guys up
front are just way better than our guys. And there's
no other, you know, sugar way to sugarcoat it or
to you know, catwalk around it. They're just bigger, stronger,
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tougher than the guys that we have. And so it
looked like that, and and the score beard out. And
what I think our team has to do is figure
out a way.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And Mario, I'm on board with you. Let's start really
playing the young kid.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I think he should start this week against you say now,
And but what we gotta do is call plays like
you're right that don't put him in harms harm's way,
although you know, football is a dangerous game, so there's
no way to bubble wrap him and make him completely safe. Sure,
and you want to have a game plan that's gonna win,
you're gonna have to take your chances with that. But yeah,
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as much as you can protect him a little bit,
I think you use his athleticism, you use his skill
set where he's the fastest guy on the field, and
get him out in open spaces, you know, with the
rollouts and that kind of stuff. But it's time to
start thinking about, you know, get that one win and
then play for twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
What is next year twenty five? Yeah, all I'm saying
is at the end of the game, it was target practices.
Guys are out there trying to say who's gonna get
the sack, and Coach Fish is calling the seventh step
drop back pass, like we can't do that to the
young man.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah. I actually thought it was a great time for
him to play because there was no pressure whatsoever. I mean,
you're done twenty eight to nothing, Like, we're not asking
you to win this game. We're asking you to go
out there and just get some experience and yeah, look,
I mean, if he's gonna play in this league, he's
gonna have to learn how to evade pressure. And I
thought he actually did a pretty damn good job the
PI call here where he's going, I believe to Decker
de Graf, he did a great job of shaking pressure off,
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getting that ball away and forcing the pass interference call.
We saw him. I think it was God was it
the USC game? I think it was USC when he
got leveled by Sam Green. Yeah, linebacker, he just pops
right back up. I mean he is he is small,
but he is he is stacked.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
He is tough.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And there's been some folks that have been on Twitter
all night talking about how he kind of reminds him
of Kyler Murray a little bit of a way, and
at the City. It's got that reach for sure, But
he's not he's not slight. He's built to absorb pressure.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, I wouldn't say he's like built, but he's that wiry,
strong kind of kids, you know what I mean. Look,
he's definitely you know, working out and getting strong, and
I appreciate his toughness and his ability to take hits.
And like I said, you can't bubble wrap him, and
you know you can't game plan to keep him safe.
I just you don't want him drop him back thirty
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thirty five, forty times, a whole bunch of a whole
bunch of you know, seven step drops.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
You just got to be smart.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But here's the thing, Mario, I think Coach Fish is
excited about play calling for Demon Williams. He likes, you know,
the ability to have the and and the kid threw
on the run. Well, he improvised. He made some guys miss.
So I think Coach Fish will have some fun play
calling next week.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
And I don't know. I fully expect to see him starting,
but you never know, right, Well.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Do you I'm sorry, do you expect to see him?
Speaker 7 (14:48):
And we have to have this game to get into
a Bowl game, so I'm kind of concerned, like we
might put Will Rogers in because this is our last chance.
You know, we can say we're gonna go into Oregon
and get a victory, but this is our last chance
to get a bowl victory.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
So do you start Will Rogers? Do you start the freshman? Well?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I think you know, Coach Fish has been clear I'm
not gonna start him until I feel like he gives
us our best chance to win well from what I
saw tonight, And you know, next week could be different.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I don't know, but I think I've seen enough to
night to say moving.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Forward, not just because of his ability, but because of
the play calls that we want to make and all
of that, he might give us our best opportunity to win.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Here's the thing about UCLA. Ucla is four and five,
three and oh the last three weeks they got they
got to win two of their final three. They got
Washington and they got USC and they got Freshno, they
can do it. So Sean Foster is talking about making
a bowl game, guy, I guarantee you.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
They win all three. We don't put it into it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
For the way they started this season and the train
wreck of the off season when de Sean Foster went
to media day and tried to crack some jokes about
being in LA and it looked like it was going
to be a clown show down there at the Rose Ball.
They have really responded. And you also know who their
quarterback is. He's Ethan Garfers, who's got a bone to pick,
I'm sure with this entire program right, and he wants
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to come up here and shove it off or you
know what on Friday night. And on top of that
is you mentioned Greg, Ucla played at home yesterday. We're
three thousand miles away from home with that with one
last day and have to travel back. They're sitting around
sleeping in watching the game. So look, I'm not going
to say that this is going to be a cakewalk
for you dub it all on Friday. With the way
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they're playing right now, they got no right to look
by anybody.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Absolutely not. And UCLA is three and oh the last
three weeks. Nobody cares about what happened early in the season. Yes,
that does dictate that they have to win these last
three to get to a bowl. But they're playing good football.
And I think what I've seen out of UCLA is
they've decided that they're going to play a Big ten
type of football, right and they've been doing that all
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year and now they're running things that they're used to.
You know, they're playing tough at the lane of scrimmage.
They're playing good defense, and that's kind of what we
we've struggled with teams that play that way. Now the
flip side for us, we're playing at home, and I
know we have a shorter week and got all that
business about traveling a long way, but it's back at
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the confines of Husky State, and we just have to
decide that we're going to play well enough at the
line of scrimmage to give our offense a chance. You
just got to give them a chance, because today we
had no chance defensively. We can't let them come in
and run the ball down our throat.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I'm just concerned because UCLA has all the momentum. They
greg talked about it. They won their last three games.
I watched the second half of that game last night,
and they were fighting. Our guys looked like they kind
of gave up tonight. So when you have all the
momentum and you're trying to get to a bowl game,
we're like backing into a bawl.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Again, Why do you say that that it looked like
they gave up just because of the box scorer or
the final score, or what was the we're going to
see from them that made you feel feel like.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
That if you looked at our offensive line at the
end of the game and just felt like they gave up,
like those guys, Like I said, it was like target practice.
Guys were trying to get who's gonna get the sack,
Who's gonna do what. Our offensive line did not fight
until the end of the game. When we put that
young man in the game. It didn't look like we
had any fight left. It looked like the game was
over in the first half.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, this was a much more mature football team than
we are, There's no question about that. There was a
play in this game where Penn State brought in a
three hundred and forty eight pound offensive lineman to be
a lead blocker on on third down, and we just
don't have that kind of physicality. I mean, they were
They were force feeding forty four of the ball the
entire game. I mean, they're up twenty eight to three
and they're just getting forty four fantasy points. Even late
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in the game, after the long run by Corey Smith,
they're down inside the ten yard line, up thirty five
to six, and they're running plays with ten seconds to
go in the game.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I thought that was a little class list in
some ways.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But you know, you take for.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You can't complain. You know you're willing to stop. I'll
tell you this though. You know we're talking back to UCLA. Yesterday.
Ucla they rushed for two hundred and eleven yards Iowa
on Iowa. They held Iowa, the team that destroyed US
a random all down our throats to eighty yards rushing.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
They held them to eighty yards.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's a team who's decided that we're going to play physical,
tough football at the line of scrimmage. And that's why
UCLA Shaun Foster made that decision early the year. It's
taken a while to kind of get the right guys
and all of that stuff, but that's the brand of
football that they're playing, and that's why we got to
show up and we got to play.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Tough with trenches. They held Iowa to eighty yards rushing. Guys.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I remember Iowa's running back had almost eighty yards on
one play against US.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
So the enemy, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
He's their offensive coordinator. I mean, I just I just
remember a couple of years ago before Klen took over,
watching that Georgia Alabama game in the National Championship. And
I've talked about this many many times a dick on
the air that I remember watching the offensive and defensive
lines in that game, thinking those are men in that game.
And if we want to get to that point, we
have to do that. And we with the best offensive
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line in school history last now we've lost all of it. Now,
all of it's gone. So this team is not going
to compete in this conference until they get serious about
the line of scrimmage again. And they're not serious with
the line of scrimmage right now. I'm not saying they're
not serious in approaching it. Of course they're trying to
approach it, but I mean, these guys aren't the answer yet.
And look, I know they've got I was highlighting the
depth chart here as a party's got eligibility, Swane's got eligibility,
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Lennon Hatchet, Memolar Khalite to fight all. There's a bunch
of guys that will gain experience, that will come back.
But if we want Washington to survive in the Big Ten,
they have to start winning again on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
And they're not.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
They're getting blown off the ball. They're getting completely taken
to the house to the woodshed on the offensive and
defensive lines on the other part of this too. You
know this this going across different time zones. Man Big
Ten teams that travel multiple time zones are now seven
and sixteen overall and seven fifteen and one against the spread.
This is another thing that you Deb's got to figure out.
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Jed Fish over the offseason has got to figure out
this travel, how they perform on the road. He's got
to find out how to find beef and linemen that
can protect the quarterback and get after the quarterback, and
those to me are the two biggest things he's got
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are in trouble Friday? Why did tonight happen all that
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All right, we are back here. Happy Valley wasn't so
happy for UDUP tonight. They get destroyed by Penn State
thirty five to six. The final Up falls behind twenty
eight to nothing at halftime, and that was it was over.
Demon Williams gets to start in the second half. He
ends up going six of ten for sixty yards. Ten
carries for thirty eight yards, including a long of forty three,
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And you say, well, how can he run for thirty
eight yards if you get along of forty three because
he lost twenty seven yards on three sacks in the
second half because college football is stupid and they take
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guys are just the worst.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
By the way, Joel is on the air with us
on the Husky Honk post game show. Joel, how are
you pale?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Good?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
How are you guys? So you know, obviously we know
Pat Schunk did not make the fish higher. I'm just
wondering you hear that saying out there all the time.
You know, cms and writer characters want their guy. How
patient do you think he's gonna be with Fish? And
number two? If Brennan Carroll's last name wasn't Carol, would
he even be coaching? Because their offensive line garbage?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I tell you what, man, I think this is
about as good as they could have done when they
lost all five guys. I think you got to give
these guys time to bring in their own dudes over
the offseason. I mean, you got five brand new starters. Obviously,
you lost everything you had a year ago. I think
it's almost inappropriate to call these guys garbage. I think
they're fighting their asses off. They're just not good enough yet,
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and they've got to get experienced, and they got to
hit the portal obviously in December Greg and start bringing
in some talent. But I think Jetfish was really in
a rock and a hard place when his entire offensive
line took off. I mean, how different are things if
Parker Brelsford stays, if Caleppo stays, if Julius Bilo stays. Obviously,
Gear and Hatchett I know got hurt at Oklahoma, but
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if he had stuck around here and stayed healthy, so
I think he deserves time to get this offensive line
back to where it was a year ago.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, see, this is the thing. They didn't have to
replace one or two guys on the offensive line. They
have to replace all five guys, right single, one of them.
And you had to do it in a short window.
You know, there's transferporter windows and times that you can
actually sign guys. And then in this new age of
college football is not just about hey, would you come
play for us?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
You got to have the money to be able to bring.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Guys in, and you're competing against other teams that may
already knew what they wanted and have the resources. And
at the same time, you're trying to hire your coaches
and get assembly your coaching staff. So I don't know
where people you know or get like these guys are
trash because of the office line. They did the absolute
best just to get five guys in here who had
some experience. Now, if we two years from now are
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saying the same thing, granted your point's valid, but right now,
it took you know, the time just to get a
staff together, then find guys who.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Are actually available or willing to transfer.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Then you know you got to come up with the resources,
the money, if you're going after top guys, So I'm
giving them a pass on this one.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I mean, I'm disappointed they haven't really own a ton
of improvement I think. I mean, maybe if we're watching
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I would just say this, there's some guys who
are good enough to improve and get to what you're saying.
But sometimes you bring you guys in who they're They're
already up their ceilings off these This is who they are, for.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Sure, for sure, this is the caliber talent that these
guys have. I let's see what happens next year.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I do think the questions about Brendan Carroll. Look,
I mean, we'll see, right if we're sitting here in
a year from now and they got a bunch of
new linemen or a bunch of experienced guys and they're
still getting pushed around by teams like this, then maybe
at that point in time we kind of have that conversation.
But I just think that this was this was kind
of an obvious thing that was coming for this football team,
Like did we not talk about this, Mario over the offseason.
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This is going to be a problem for this program
the entire year. The question is how big of a
problem will it be at how fast will it take
to get these guys improved from game one to game twelve?
So nobody can be shocked by the problems the offensive
line is.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Having this year. No, it's the entire team.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Fifty new guys on a team like where we should
be happy at five and five right now.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
And you talk about.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Coach Fish, whether Pat is happy with him or not.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
You look at his progress at Arizona, like he started
off rough, but last year he got ten victories. So
that's what's gonna happen here, from our offensive line down
to our entire team. When you have a new team
like this, it's hard to jail in a right in
the season like that. So I'm looking forward to what happens.
I like Coach Fish's progress that he did in Arizona,
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and I'm hopeful that it will happen here in Washington
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You saw some guys out there today who Demon Williams.
I mean, nobody was checking for Demon Williams. This coach
identified a player that fits his system that he likes
and said, this is the guy that we can build
our offense around. He has a couple of young white receivers.
I really think Denzel Boston and Marios talked about its long.
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When he becomes a really good route runner, he's gonna
be a special type of talent. We just got to
build around those guys. These guys are recruiting like maniacs,
like mad dogs. I mean, they are getting players signed
that coach Debor and his team, with all the wins
they had over two years, weren't able to sign those
kind of guys. They're keeping guys home. They're identifying guys
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in other states that we don't traditionally bring a lot
of guys in from. So I think those things are
in place. Pat Chung has he has no reason not
to be patient with this coaching staff because they're showing
they got some good young guys.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
They're doing well in recruiting.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Now they'll get to build an office around the type
of players that they like.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
In those system.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So I don't know why anybody's panicing like the coaching
staff did a terrible job.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, look, I mean, you're five and five, not because
of your offensive and defensive line, because you can almost
handle that when you have five new starters on your
offensive line and you don't have anybody of note on
the defensive front, the Parker Twins or heard Zach DURFII
didn't even play again today. He's been a non factor
of the entire year, mostly because of injury. But you're
not getting anything really from your offensive and defensive line.
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I can handle that because these are all new guys.
They're playing together a bunch of FCS guys. What what
should irritate you, I think as fans about being five
and five is that, really it probably should be a seven.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
And three team.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You know, if you can get the ball into the
end zon a fourth down in the Apple Cup, right,
if you can get the red zone scores and and
not have a fifteen penalties against Rutners on a Friday
night and beat a team that I think you're more talented,
then you easily could be a seven and three football team.
But you're not because of those mistakes. That's what should
just drive Husky fans crazy. Not the offensive line, not yet.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But I've seen them even get better in those areas.
They're not, for sure the same amount of penalties, yes,
that they have.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Fortunately tonight they have four penalties tonight right.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Unfortunately, our schedule the way it's built is we are
getting the toughest teams at the end of the year.
If our schedule was flipped around and we were playing
some of the you know teams like Washington State and
you could say they get only got one loss all
you want, but they're not playing anybody and your Rutgers
and things like that. If you can play them later
in this you might look a little better like you've
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made more progress. So I think, you know, people need
to you know, dial it back a little bit on
the whole coaching staff being impatient, being on the hot
seat stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I think that to me has just gone way too far.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, he's I mean, he's not going anywhere, right, I
mean he just signed a brand new contract obviously, so
he's not going anywhere. But they look I mean the
play calling obviously, I was a little bit kind of
like you Mario tonight. It's like, hey, we're gonna get
this guy killed. You know, we we've seen the offensive
line struggle for three and a half quarters, and yet
here we are still in the fourth quarter calling, as
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you said, five and seven step drops for Demon Williams.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Yeah, I don't understand that. I know you wanted to
get to see the young man. But let's get it.
Let's get out of here. Everybody's safe and no injuries.
That's all I wanted from him.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
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Speaker 2 (31:26):
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What did you guys think of the atmosphere? Let's just
start there, right, I mean, got thrashed by Penn State,
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but overall the atmosphere, the environment, Greg, what'd you make
of what you saw?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It was a lot less energy in the building than
I thought it was going to be in Some of
the Penn State fans actually said that to me at halftime,
and it was indicative of the score r exactly what.
They were beating us pretty well, and there was not
a whole lot of excitement in the air and the environment.
They say usually that there's a lot more so, you know,
unfortunately we didn't come here and represent well and you know,
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we got to go back to Seattle and carrying that.
Not only that ill with us, but we just didn't compete,
and that's unfortunate. I've been in a game like that.
I remember playing Colorado at home in nineteen eighty nine
and you know, really feeling like the team just came
in and dominated it. And that was kind of the
show today.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, the only team that got thrashed by More here
this year was Kent State, So I mean, you, Doug
really just did not put up any fight whatsoever. And
I kind of agree with Greg. I mean, the opening
of the game was great, the intro was great, the
atmosphere was great, and then it just fizzled out because
it just wasn't a game. There was nothing for the
fans to scream about because their team was kicking our ass.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
No, the atmosphere was wonderful. I love seeing it. I
like to see all the fans out here. They were
ready to go, but they never had anything to go for,
Like we just got our bus kick from start to finish,
Like those the white Out. They probably had all their
fans ready and hyped up from last week in Ohio
State and then to come in this game and just
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get beat up the way we did. Yep, there was
just nothing to really cheer for.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
All right, So Friday UCLA pregame show starts at two
kickoff at six pm on Friday, and then the Huskies
will have a bye before they go to Oregon to
play the Ducks. It kind of reminds me of the
time they had a buye before they played cow the
Apple Cup. Man, it was like, you know, go to
the gallows and having to wait an extra week for
that game. But do we want to see Will Rogers
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start again? Here's a quote from Christian Caple's Twitter account
Jetfish stud He expects Will Rogers to remain the starting quarterback.
His full response to that question quote, at this point
in time, I'm going into the week thinking that he
will be our starter for Friday nights. Is that the
right call for now? Maybe you want Demon Williams to
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really take it from Will this week in practice? Do
you open up the repetitions with the number ones? How
do you handle the quarterback spot?
Speaker 7 (34:35):
If you're Jetfish, I never really believed you could take
it in a week of practice and that the coach
wanted you to take it.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
So it's up to coach Fish.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I feel like, do you give your team the sense
that we're giving up on the season if we put
Demon in like we were trying to get to a
bowl game, And I think coach Fish is really trying
to get to a bowl game. I think Demon gives
us the best chance to win. But I don't think
that's the coach Fish thinks.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Greg.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I think, you know, Demon could be our best option
this upcoming week because I think a lot of things.
If you're not gonna have an offensive line that can
protect your quarterback, you need a guy who can scramble,
who can get away. If your coach feels good about
calling plays for a guy like that, you know. But
here's the one thing I do fully believe about quarterbacks.
You have to make your decision going into the week
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who's going to be your starting guy, because you need
to get him prepared as best as you can get
the most reps right with the starting guys to have
the best shot to win, so you don't let him
win it during the week. You declare who's gonna be
and then you prepare him like he's that guy during
the week so you can have the best chance to
kick the other team's ass.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, and you're gonna have a short week because of
the game on Friday, right, so obviously you're not gonna
have much time. So all right, that's it for US Huskies.
Lose it today, thirty five or six. First time they've
gone a game without scoring a touchdown in total in
twelve years since they lost forty one to three to
LSU and Baton Rouge with Steve Starkshan and the first
time they've gone a game without scoring an offensive touchdown
since they won the Pack Bolf Championship. I can handle
(35:58):
not scoring offensive touchdown as long as you win the
game in the Pac twelve Championship like we did six
years ago against the Utes. For Chris Kid back in
the studio, Mario Bailey, Greg Lewis, my name is Dave
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
All right, Doc Vans, here we go. We are back
on a what is this Saturday? Sunday morning. I'm not
even sure what the hell we're doing here Monday morning.
I kind of lost all of my mental capacity down
twenty eight to nothing at halftime, to be totally honest
with you, and I was commenting to Mario and Greg
here that I'm wondering why we're not packing booze with
us on these trips. If there's ever a game to
have a flask or maybe a couple of shots of
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crack and rum Pendleton whiskey, something like that, this would
have been the night to do it. Oh my god,
this was a total throttling by Penn State Today by Washington,
no question about it. Thirty five to six final it's
the first time that you Dub has not scored a touchdown, period, guy,
since U Dub and Sark went to baton Rouge and
Death Valley. We were both there at that game, greg
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and lost forty one to three. Remember you Dub got
a fumble on the opening kickoff and was held out
of the end zone, and then USC Roles excuse me,
Lsu rolled off forty one consecutive points. So that's the
last time the Huskies played a game without scoring a touchdown.
It was twelve years ago. The last time they played
the game without scoring an offensive touchdown. Byron Murphy saved
the day and won the Pac twelve against Utah back
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in twenty eighteen with a pick six and the Huskies
won the game ten to three. But here we are
six years later and Washington is five and five, and
everything is on the table I think right now for
this football team, including decisions that quarterback, decisions on the
offensive line, decisions on the defensive side of the ball.
This was a game where Penn State took the ball
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on the first four drives of the game and just
shoved it right down Udub's throat. They score four consecutive
touchdowns and the only reason why you Dub even got
on the board to begin with in the second half
is because Tyler Warren had a fumble that was forced
by Carson Bruner and U Dub was able to pick
it up and turn that into a field goal. So,
(02:22):
I mean, guys, just a complete and thorough disaster tonight
for Washington. Another reminder that they are just not ready
yet to play at this level of football.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Correct, Yeah, you know, this is one of those games
where it looked like one team was ranked in the
top ten in the country.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It looked like one team was playing a big game
with a lot going forward, a lot on the line.
It looked like one team had a lot of experienced players.
Looked like one team is poised to have a run
of the playoffs. It looked like the other team is
rebuilding and really not ready to play in this conference
with the big time teams. I mean, they won every
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phase of the game. There was nothing to me that
we did in this football game that was positive other
than maybe a couple plays by a true freshman quarterback
and a middle linebacker who's playing hurt and banged up
and beat up. Our offensive line got their tails kicked tonight.
There's no one on that side of the ball that
should feel good about this performance. And then defensively, they
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were at one point, I believe it was nine for
nine third down conversions. We couldn't get off the field
to save our lives. And then, you know, like you
said on once they got a converted a second down,
he said, oh there's another, Oh they didn't get the
third down. So there were so many plays that the
defense had that were negative plays for them. It was
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not a phase of this football game where Washington looked
like a competent football team.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Mario, Yeah, do you ever enjoy it?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah? Fun here?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
We just got our bus kicked.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
I just felt like we talked about pregame, about playing
a clean game. It didn't even matter what type of
game we played. We just came out here and got
our bus kicked. The offensive line really struggled. I thought
our offense couldn't get anything. I thought we started off great,
had a great drive. I think we had maybe twelve
to fourteen plays, and then that thirteen fifteen plays, and
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then that that played the third down was just a
horrible call, and then it was just downhill from there.
Our field goal kicker seems to struggle on the road
as well. Our offensive line, our defense could not stop them.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Greg talked about it.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
I think they were seven for seven in the first
half on third down conversion, eighth for eight the targeting
call that started off and got the first touchdown, like
they could just do anything they wanted to on offense,
and defensively, we just we struggled, and our defense is
our best unit. And to struggle like that and give
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up four touchdowns and four drives in the first half,
the game was never in doubt.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, let's let's just go back to that first drive
of the game. First of all, Husky talk postgame brought
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ready to accept all challenges. So it's funny you mentioned
that first drive. It was actually a thirteen play drive
because two of those plays were called back due to penalties. Okay, thanks,
so there were the ball was snapped fifteen times, but
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technically you hey, look, if you guys want the credit,
will get you. Dub had. That drive was a thirteen play,
forty two yard drive that took seven minutes off the clock.
Jonah Coleman I believe had seven carries on that drive
and it ended with Grady Gross hitting them right upright
and clanking a field goal off the upright and it
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was no good from that point on. U dubs. Following
three drives were two fifty seven, a buck fifty one,
a buck thirty. They did not have a four plus
minute drive again until they were down twenty eight to nothing.
I mean, this was a complete collapse on both sides
of the ball. And you mentioned the play call on
third and four. It's kind of a stretch play that
Jonah Coleman that lost six yards. Why did you think
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that was a problem there on third down?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
I just always think it's a problem. I think there's
a problem with creativity. That play should not have been called.
I talk about it with real rogers, and we're trying
to like an option that was maybe the short side
of the field, it might have been the white side, but.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
That just call from third and four. I just don't
think we should have been running the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Well, you know, play call is certainly an issue at
certain times, but when your offensive line cannot block and
when I mean not fight fighting, they get beat. But
when a guy comes off the line of scrimmage and
you whiff right out the.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Game, and yeah, it looks like Ola blocks you.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Really, it doesn't matter what plays you call you guys,
this was a sound whipping right at the offensive line
of scrimmage. And after we got out of that first drive,
it was the left tackle, then the right tackle, then
the left guard. Everybody took a chance, an opportunity to
have some really bad plays. And I don't know what
your skilled players are able to do that. And frankly,
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you know, it wasn't a great game for Rogers. I'm
not going to pretend like he played well today. You
know the interception, he just threw it up for grabs. Yeah,
but it didn't matter who's at quarterback. For the most
of this game, they were kicking our butts right and
up at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
And you know, Saft that you corrected the person who
said they have.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Thirty seven sacks coming in this game that they only
had seventeen. Well, they look like a team who had
thirty seven sacks coming in based on the way our
offensive line was blocking.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So you know, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
There was anything anybody could have done outside of you
know what was happening right there at the snap of
the ball, and those guys who were nosed to nose,
we got whipped right out the gate from those positions.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
This center, Yeah, two guards.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And the tackle, no question about it. I mean, they
had five sacks tonight Penn State, did you dub had none?
Sacks do count as tackles for loss in college football,
by the way, So Penn State had nine TfL, so
four extra tackles for loss on top of the sacks
took away demand you dubb had none. Demon Williams runs
for thirty eight yards, but he got sacked three times
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and lost twenty seven yards because sacks and college football
on like the NFL, come off rushing yards for quarterbacks,
which I've always thought is stupid, but that's the way
they do it in college football. So let's just go
back and talk about the ejection for a second, because
that seemed to just suck a lot of wind out
of the Husky sales. I mean, Daddius Dixon has been
I think their best cornerback the entire year, and he
gets ejected on a targeting call on Evans. It looked
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to me like it was the right call. Lowers his
head looked like he may have made contact with his helmet.
But you know, I said to you, Greg Man, I
was there the night Curtis Williams got paralyzed at Stanford,
you know, over twenty years ago, and watching a young
guy do that with his head and dip it like
that scares the hell out of me. Man, So I
thought it was the right call. It's unfortunate, but I'm
glad it happened in the first half and not the
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second half because if it's the second half, he's missing
the first half of UCLA, right.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, And you know, it's unfortunate because football is such
an instinctive game and there's not a lot of time
sometimes to make a you know, decision on how you're
going to hit someone or make a tack when it's
right there to spur the moment. I didn't think he
lowered his head intentionally. I think he was just caught
in a position now the letter of the rule book
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that was targeting. Absolutely, he used and led with the
crown of his head made contact with the face mask
of the other player, so it's targeting. And I understand
why I got thrown out and I understand what they're
trying to do. He can say, it's just in the
and they'll spare the moments when you're coming off blocks
and you're making tackles, you're just trying to get the
guy down.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We thought it was a great hitting, real tie.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But unfortunately it takes your best defender other than Carson
Bruner and your best pass defender off the field right
at the beginning of the game. And what momentum you
think you're getting from a big play and a big
tackle least to a first down for the other team,
They get some momentum, and they didn't need a lot
of help today. I mean, they didn't any help at all.
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They were kicking our butts, you know, up front, so well,
so that was just a bad omen or a bad
sign right off. First we missed the field goal was
the first bat sign. Then that happens. I don't think
from there there was more than maybe three or four
positive plays the entire game. For that, we don't need
to do a breakdown of this. Let's just say this,
Penn State looked great. The Husty stunk, and they won
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the football game.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
By a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well. Jonah Coleman had seven carries in the first quarter
and four of the rest of the way. I mean,
part of it is because you're down twenty eight nothing,
you tossed the rule book out of the way. But
I don't know, man, I mean this offensive line look,
I mean, it felt like they stuck with the same
five guys for the most part the entire game until
injury five got hurt and they had to bring in
Swane at left tackle. But it really was disappointing for
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me because I guess I thought, guys, the performance Mario
I saw from the offensive line tonight was the performance
I thought we would see in the first maybe month
of the year, not in the third to last game.
I thought maybe by game ten they'd be more I
guess ready, for lack of a better word, to go
toe to toe with a team like this, and obviously
they're not.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
The most disappointing part for me was at towards the
end of the game, it felt like they gave up
and we put the young man in the game, and
I believe that's what you and Greg have been worried about,
about him getting out there and getting killed. But Coach
Fish shouldn't be calling seven step drop back passes at
the end of the game while these guys are coming
and they're blitzing a freshman the.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Offensive line I started.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
They started off the game great, but as the game
went on, and Greg's talked about this before too, in
the second half on both sides, defensive line and offensive
line seem to struggle because we don't have that much depth.
But we need to figure something out in these last
two games.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, this to me was a case of my guys
are just way better than your dudes. And it's just
as simple as that. I don't care, softie, if this
is week one or week ten. Penn State's guys up
front are just way better than our guys. And there's
no other, you know, sugar way to sugarcoat it or
to you know, catwalk around it. They're just bigger, stronger,
(11:55):
tougher than the guys that we have. And so it
looked like that, and and the score beard out. And
what I think our team has to do is figure
out a way.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And Mario, I'm on board with you. Let's start really
playing the young kid.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I think he should start this week against you say now,
And but what we gotta do is call plays like
you're right that don't put him in harms harm's way,
although you know, football is a dangerous game, so there's
no way to bubble wrap him and make him completely safe. Sure,
and you want to have a game plan that's gonna win,
you're gonna have to take your chances with that. But yeah,
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as much as you can protect him a little bit,
I think you use his athleticism, you use his skill
set where he's the fastest guy on the field, and
get him out in open spaces, you know, with the
rollouts and that kind of stuff. But it's time to
start thinking about, you know, get that one win and
then play for twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
What is next year twenty five? Yeah, all I'm saying
is at the end of the game, it was target practices.
Guys are out there trying to say who's gonna get
the sack, and Coach Fish is calling the seventh step
drop back pass, like we can't do that to the
young man.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah. I actually thought it was a great time for
him to play because there was no pressure whatsoever. I mean,
you're done twenty eight to nothing, Like, we're not asking
you to win this game. We're asking you to go
out there and just get some experience and yeah, look,
I mean, if he's gonna play in this league, he's
gonna have to learn how to evade pressure. And I
thought he actually did a pretty damn good job the
PI call here where he's going, I believe to Decker
de Graf, he did a great job of shaking pressure off,
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getting that ball away and forcing the pass interference call.
We saw him. I think it was God was it
the USC game? I think it was USC when he
got leveled by Sam Green. Yeah, linebacker, he just pops
right back up. I mean he is he is small,
but he is he is stacked.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
He is tough.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And there's been some folks that have been on Twitter
all night talking about how he kind of reminds him
of Kyler Murray a little bit of a way, and
at the City. It's got that reach for sure, But
he's not he's not slight. He's built to absorb pressure.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, I wouldn't say he's like built, but he's that wiry,
strong kind of kids, you know what I mean. Look,
he's definitely you know, working out and getting strong, and
I appreciate his toughness and his ability to take hits.
And like I said, you can't bubble wrap him, and
you know you can't game plan to keep him safe.
I just you don't want him drop him back thirty
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thirty five, forty times, a whole bunch of a whole
bunch of you know, seven step drops.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
You just got to be smart.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But here's the thing, Mario, I think Coach Fish is
excited about play calling for Demon Williams. He likes, you know,
the ability to have the and and the kid threw
on the run. Well, he improvised. He made some guys miss.
So I think Coach Fish will have some fun play
calling next week.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
And I don't know. I fully expect to see him starting,
but you never know, right, Well.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Do you I'm sorry, do you expect to see him?
Speaker 7 (14:48):
And we have to have this game to get into
a Bowl game, so I'm kind of concerned, like we
might put Will Rogers in because this is our last chance.
You know, we can say we're gonna go into Oregon
and get a victory, but this is our last chance
to get a bowl victory.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
So do you start Will Rogers? Do you start the freshman? Well?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I think you know, Coach Fish has been clear I'm
not gonna start him until I feel like he gives
us our best chance to win well from what I
saw tonight, And you know, next week could be different.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I don't know, but I think I've seen enough to
night to say moving.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Forward, not just because of his ability, but because of
the play calls that we want to make and all
of that, he might give us our best opportunity to win.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Here's the thing about UCLA. Ucla is four and five,
three and oh the last three weeks they got they
got to win two of their final three. They got
Washington and they got USC and they got Freshno, they
can do it. So Sean Foster is talking about making
a bowl game, guy, I guarantee you.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
They win all three. We don't put it into it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
For the way they started this season and the train
wreck of the off season when de Sean Foster went
to media day and tried to crack some jokes about
being in LA and it looked like it was going
to be a clown show down there at the Rose Ball.
They have really responded. And you also know who their
quarterback is. He's Ethan Garfers, who's got a bone to pick,
I'm sure with this entire program right, and he wants
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to come up here and shove it off or you
know what on Friday night. And on top of that
is you mentioned Greg, Ucla played at home yesterday. We're
three thousand miles away from home with that with one
last day and have to travel back. They're sitting around
sleeping in watching the game. So look, I'm not going
to say that this is going to be a cakewalk
for you dub it all on Friday. With the way
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they're playing right now, they got no right to look
by anybody.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Absolutely not. And UCLA is three and oh the last
three weeks. Nobody cares about what happened early in the season. Yes,
that does dictate that they have to win these last
three to get to a bowl. But they're playing good football.
And I think what I've seen out of UCLA is
they've decided that they're going to play a Big ten
type of football, right and they've been doing that all
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year and now they're running things that they're used to.
You know, they're playing tough at the lane of scrimmage.
They're playing good defense, and that's kind of what we
we've struggled with teams that play that way. Now the
flip side for us, we're playing at home, and I
know we have a shorter week and got all that
business about traveling a long way, but it's back at
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the confines of Husky State, and we just have to
decide that we're going to play well enough at the
line of scrimmage to give our offense a chance. You
just got to give them a chance, because today we
had no chance defensively. We can't let them come in
and run the ball down our throat.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I'm just concerned because UCLA has all the momentum. They
greg talked about it. They won their last three games.
I watched the second half of that game last night,
and they were fighting. Our guys looked like they kind
of gave up tonight. So when you have all the
momentum and you're trying to get to a bowl game,
we're like backing into a bawl.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Again, Why do you say that that it looked like
they gave up just because of the box scorer or
the final score, or what was the we're going to
see from them that made you feel feel like.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
That if you looked at our offensive line at the
end of the game and just felt like they gave up,
like those guys, Like I said, it was like target practice.
Guys were trying to get who's gonna get the sack,
Who's gonna do what. Our offensive line did not fight
until the end of the game. When we put that
young man in the game. It didn't look like we
had any fight left. It looked like the game was
over in the first half.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, this was a much more mature football team than
we are, There's no question about that. There was a
play in this game where Penn State brought in a
three hundred and forty eight pound offensive lineman to be
a lead blocker on on third down, and we just
don't have that kind of physicality. I mean, they were
They were force feeding forty four of the ball the
entire game. I mean, they're up twenty eight to three
and they're just getting forty four fantasy points. Even late
(18:35):
in the game, after the long run by Corey Smith,
they're down inside the ten yard line, up thirty five
to six, and they're running plays with ten seconds to
go in the game.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I thought that was a little class list in
some ways.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But you know, you take for.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You can't complain. You know you're willing to stop. I'll
tell you this though. You know we're talking back to UCLA. Yesterday.
Ucla they rushed for two hundred and eleven yards Iowa
on Iowa. They held Iowa, the team that destroyed US
a random all down our throats to eighty yards rushing.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
They held them to eighty yards.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's a team who's decided that we're going to play physical,
tough football at the line of scrimmage. And that's why
UCLA Shaun Foster made that decision early the year. It's
taken a while to kind of get the right guys
and all of that stuff, but that's the brand of
football that they're playing, and that's why we got to
show up and we got to play.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Tough with trenches. They held Iowa to eighty yards rushing. Guys.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I remember Iowa's running back had almost eighty yards on
one play against US.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
So the enemy, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
He's their offensive coordinator. I mean, I just I just
remember a couple of years ago before Klen took over,
watching that Georgia Alabama game in the National Championship. And
I've talked about this many many times a dick on
the air that I remember watching the offensive and defensive
lines in that game, thinking those are men in that game.
And if we want to get to that point, we
have to do that. And we with the best offensive
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line in school history last now we've lost all of it. Now,
all of it's gone. So this team is not going
to compete in this conference until they get serious about
the line of scrimmage again. And they're not serious with
the line of scrimmage right now. I'm not saying they're
not serious in approaching it. Of course they're trying to
approach it, but I mean, these guys aren't the answer yet.
And look, I know they've got I was highlighting the
depth chart here as a party's got eligibility, Swane's got eligibility,
(20:25):
Lennon Hatchet, Memolar Khalite to fight all. There's a bunch
of guys that will gain experience, that will come back.
But if we want Washington to survive in the Big Ten,
they have to start winning again on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
And they're not.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
They're getting blown off the ball. They're getting completely taken
to the house to the woodshed on the offensive and
defensive lines on the other part of this too. You
know this this going across different time zones. Man Big
Ten teams that travel multiple time zones are now seven
and sixteen overall and seven fifteen and one against the spread.
This is another thing that you Deb's got to figure out.
(21:00):
Jed Fish over the offseason has got to figure out
this travel, how they perform on the road. He's got
to find out how to find beef and linemen that
can protect the quarterback and get after the quarterback, and
those to me are the two biggest things he's got
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Speaker 2 (22:32):
All right, we are back here. Happy Valley wasn't so
happy for UDUP tonight. They get destroyed by Penn State
thirty five to six. The final Up falls behind twenty
eight to nothing at halftime, and that was it was over.
Demon Williams gets to start in the second half. He
ends up going six of ten for sixty yards. Ten
carries for thirty eight yards, including a long of forty three,
(22:55):
And you say, well, how can he run for thirty
eight yards if you get along of forty three because
he lost twenty seven yards on three sacks in the
second half because college football is stupid and they take
sack numbers off of rushing totals for quarterbacks. By the way,
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guys are just the worst.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
By the way, Joel is on the air with us
on the Husky Honk post game show. Joel, how are
you pale?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Good?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
How are you guys? So you know, obviously we know
Pat Schunk did not make the fish higher. I'm just
wondering you hear that saying out there all the time.
You know, cms and writer characters want their guy. How
patient do you think he's gonna be with Fish? And
number two? If Brennan Carroll's last name wasn't Carol, would
he even be coaching? Because their offensive line garbage?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I tell you what, man, I think this is
about as good as they could have done when they
lost all five guys. I think you got to give
these guys time to bring in their own dudes over
the offseason. I mean, you got five brand new starters. Obviously,
you lost everything you had a year ago. I think
it's almost inappropriate to call these guys garbage. I think
they're fighting their asses off. They're just not good enough yet,
(24:23):
and they've got to get experienced, and they got to
hit the portal obviously in December Greg and start bringing
in some talent. But I think Jetfish was really in
a rock and a hard place when his entire offensive
line took off. I mean, how different are things if
Parker Brelsford stays, if Caleppo stays, if Julius Bilo stays. Obviously,
Gear and Hatchett I know got hurt at Oklahoma, but
(24:45):
if he had stuck around here and stayed healthy, so
I think he deserves time to get this offensive line
back to where it was a year ago.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, see, this is the thing. They didn't have to
replace one or two guys on the offensive line. They
have to replace all five guys, right single, one of them.
And you had to do it in a short window.
You know, there's transferporter windows and times that you can
actually sign guys. And then in this new age of
college football is not just about hey, would you come
play for us?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
You got to have the money to be able to bring.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Guys in, and you're competing against other teams that may
already knew what they wanted and have the resources. And
at the same time, you're trying to hire your coaches
and get assembly your coaching staff. So I don't know
where people you know or get like these guys are
trash because of the office line. They did the absolute
best just to get five guys in here who had
some experience. Now, if we two years from now are
(25:37):
saying the same thing, granted your point's valid, but right now,
it took you know, the time just to get a
staff together, then find guys who.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Are actually available or willing to transfer.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Then you know you got to come up with the resources,
the money, if you're going after top guys, So I'm
giving them a pass on this one.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I mean, I'm disappointed they haven't really own a ton
of improvement I think. I mean, maybe if we're watching
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I would just say this, there's some guys who
are good enough to improve and get to what you're saying.
But sometimes you bring you guys in who they're They're
already up their ceilings off these This is who they are, for.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Sure, for sure, this is the caliber talent that these
guys have. I let's see what happens next year.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I do think the questions about Brendan Carroll. Look,
I mean, we'll see, right if we're sitting here in
a year from now and they got a bunch of
new linemen or a bunch of experienced guys and they're
still getting pushed around by teams like this, then maybe
at that point in time we kind of have that conversation.
But I just think that this was this was kind
of an obvious thing that was coming for this football team,
Like did we not talk about this, Mario over the offseason.
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This is going to be a problem for this program
the entire year. The question is how big of a
problem will it be at how fast will it take
to get these guys improved from game one to game twelve?
So nobody can be shocked by the problems the offensive
line is.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Having this year. No, it's the entire team.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Fifty new guys on a team like where we should
be happy at five and five right now.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
And you talk about.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Coach Fish, whether Pat is happy with him or not.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
You look at his progress at Arizona, like he started
off rough, but last year he got ten victories. So
that's what's gonna happen here, from our offensive line down
to our entire team. When you have a new team
like this, it's hard to jail in a right in
the season like that. So I'm looking forward to what happens.
I like Coach Fish's progress that he did in Arizona,
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and I'm hopeful that it will happen here in Washington
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You saw some guys out there today who Demon Williams.
I mean, nobody was checking for Demon Williams. This coach
identified a player that fits his system that he likes
and said, this is the guy that we can build
our offense around. He has a couple of young white receivers.
I really think Denzel Boston and Marios talked about its long.
(27:52):
When he becomes a really good route runner, he's gonna
be a special type of talent. We just got to
build around those guys. These guys are recruiting like maniacs,
like mad dogs. I mean, they are getting players signed
that coach Debor and his team, with all the wins
they had over two years, weren't able to sign those
kind of guys. They're keeping guys home. They're identifying guys
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in other states that we don't traditionally bring a lot
of guys in from. So I think those things are
in place. Pat Chung has he has no reason not
to be patient with this coaching staff because they're showing
they got some good young guys.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
They're doing well in recruiting.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Now they'll get to build an office around the type
of players that they like.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
In those system.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So I don't know why anybody's panicing like the coaching
staff did a terrible job.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, look, I mean, you're five and five, not because
of your offensive and defensive line, because you can almost
handle that when you have five new starters on your
offensive line and you don't have anybody of note on
the defensive front, the Parker Twins or heard Zach DURFII
didn't even play again today. He's been a non factor
of the entire year, mostly because of injury. But you're
not getting anything really from your offensive and defensive line.
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I can handle that because these are all new guys.
They're playing together a bunch of FCS guys. What what
should irritate you, I think as fans about being five
and five is that, really it probably should be a seven.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
And three team.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You know, if you can get the ball into the
end zon a fourth down in the Apple Cup, right,
if you can get the red zone scores and and
not have a fifteen penalties against Rutners on a Friday
night and beat a team that I think you're more talented,
then you easily could be a seven and three football team.
But you're not because of those mistakes. That's what should
just drive Husky fans crazy. Not the offensive line, not yet.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But I've seen them even get better in those areas.
They're not, for sure the same amount of penalties, yes,
that they have.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Fortunately tonight they have four penalties tonight right.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Unfortunately, our schedule the way it's built is we are
getting the toughest teams at the end of the year.
If our schedule was flipped around and we were playing
some of the you know teams like Washington State and
you could say they get only got one loss all
you want, but they're not playing anybody and your Rutgers
and things like that. If you can play them later
in this you might look a little better like you've
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made more progress. So I think, you know, people need
to you know, dial it back a little bit on
the whole coaching staff being impatient, being on the hot
seat stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I think that to me has just gone way too far.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, he's I mean, he's not going anywhere, right, I
mean he just signed a brand new contract obviously, so
he's not going anywhere. But they look I mean the
play calling obviously, I was a little bit kind of
like you Mario tonight. It's like, hey, we're gonna get
this guy killed. You know, we we've seen the offensive
line struggle for three and a half quarters, and yet
here we are still in the fourth quarter calling, as
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you said, five and seven step drops for Demon Williams.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Yeah, I don't understand that. I know you wanted to
get to see the young man. But let's get it.
Let's get out of here. Everybody's safe and no injuries.
That's all I wanted from him.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
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What did you guys think of the atmosphere? Let's just
start there, right, I mean, got thrashed by Penn State,
(32:18):
but overall the atmosphere, the environment, Greg, what'd you make
of what you saw?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It was a lot less energy in the building than
I thought it was going to be in Some of
the Penn State fans actually said that to me at halftime,
and it was indicative of the score r exactly what.
They were beating us pretty well, and there was not
a whole lot of excitement in the air and the environment.
They say usually that there's a lot more so, you know,
unfortunately we didn't come here and represent well and you know,
(32:44):
we got to go back to Seattle and carrying that.
Not only that ill with us, but we just didn't compete,
and that's unfortunate. I've been in a game like that.
I remember playing Colorado at home in nineteen eighty nine
and you know, really feeling like the team just came
in and dominated it. And that was kind of the
show today.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, the only team that got thrashed by More here
this year was Kent State, So I mean, you, Doug
really just did not put up any fight whatsoever. And
I kind of agree with Greg. I mean, the opening
of the game was great, the intro was great, the
atmosphere was great, and then it just fizzled out because
it just wasn't a game. There was nothing for the
fans to scream about because their team was kicking our ass.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
No, the atmosphere was wonderful. I love seeing it. I
like to see all the fans out here. They were
ready to go, but they never had anything to go for,
Like we just got our bus kick from start to finish,
Like those the white Out. They probably had all their
fans ready and hyped up from last week in Ohio
State and then to come in this game and just
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get beat up the way we did. Yep, there was
just nothing to really cheer for.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
All right, So Friday UCLA pregame show starts at two
kickoff at six pm on Friday, and then the Huskies
will have a bye before they go to Oregon to
play the Ducks. It kind of reminds me of the
time they had a buye before they played cow the
Apple Cup. Man, it was like, you know, go to
the gallows and having to wait an extra week for
that game. But do we want to see Will Rogers
(34:08):
start again? Here's a quote from Christian Caple's Twitter account
Jetfish stud He expects Will Rogers to remain the starting quarterback.
His full response to that question quote, at this point
in time, I'm going into the week thinking that he
will be our starter for Friday nights. Is that the
right call for now? Maybe you want Demon Williams to
(34:29):
really take it from Will this week in practice? Do
you open up the repetitions with the number ones? How
do you handle the quarterback spot?
Speaker 7 (34:35):
If you're Jetfish, I never really believed you could take
it in a week of practice and that the coach
wanted you to take it.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
So it's up to coach Fish.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I feel like, do you give your team the sense
that we're giving up on the season if we put
Demon in like we were trying to get to a
bowl game, And I think coach Fish is really trying
to get to a bowl game. I think Demon gives
us the best chance to win. But I don't think
that's the coach Fish thinks.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Greg.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I think, you know, Demon could be our best option
this upcoming week because I think a lot of things.
If you're not gonna have an offensive line that can
protect your quarterback, you need a guy who can scramble,
who can get away. If your coach feels good about
calling plays for a guy like that, you know. But
here's the one thing I do fully believe about quarterbacks.
You have to make your decision going into the week
(35:19):
who's going to be your starting guy, because you need
to get him prepared as best as you can get
the most reps right with the starting guys to have
the best shot to win, so you don't let him
win it during the week. You declare who's gonna be
and then you prepare him like he's that guy during
the week so you can have the best chance to
kick the other team's ass.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, and you're gonna have a short week because of
the game on Friday, right, so obviously you're not gonna
have much time. So all right, that's it for US Huskies.
Lose it today, thirty five or six. First time they've
gone a game without scoring a touchdown in total in
twelve years since they lost forty one to three to
LSU and Baton Rouge with Steve Starkshan and the first
time they've gone a game without scoring an offensive touchdown
since they won the Pack Bolf Championship. I can handle
(35:58):
not scoring offensive touchdown as long as you win the
game in the Pac twelve Championship like we did six
years ago against the Utes. For Chris Kid back in
the studio, Mario Bailey, Greg Lewis, my name is Dave
Softie Maler. We'll talk to you Monday at three o'clock
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