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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's Husky football? Football?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Football?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
All right, doc fans, we are back at Tom's Watch Bar,
and uh, I would just like to point out that
I am thankful that we are near a bar because
we could use a couple of drinks after what we
just saw in Michigan Stadium. The second uh well, actually
the first time in Demon Williams's career he has throwing
multiple interceptions in a game. And it happens to be
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a three interception day for Demon Williams, tripling his total
from the season. Only had one going into today. It
ends up with three on the afternoon as the Huskies
lose to Michigan twenty four to seven. Husky Talk Postgame
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guys I thought U Dub was laying down a pretty
good challenge to Michigan, right despite a missfield goal, despite
some false starts. Hanging in there. Seven to seven at
the break, and don't forget they stop Michigan at the
six yard line on a big fourth down play by
x Ray Alexander on the first Wolverine driver the second half,
they trade punts and then implode absolute disaster. Third drive interception,
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easy touchdown for Michigan. On the next play, next drive,
he throws another pick that results in a nine play
touchdown drive for Michigan. Very next drive a sack fumble
that gave Michigan the ball at the UB seventeen after
a turnover, run downs that led to a field goal,
and the very next drive after that, the first play
going to Denzel Boston downtown another interception. They had four
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consecutive drives that ended either in a sack, fumble, turnover
on downs, or a pick. DeMont Williams had a five
pass sequence there greg where three of his passes were intercepted.
What in the hell just happened to you, Dub in
the second half of that game.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, I don't want to make excuses, but the scrambled
eggs and bacon game caught up to us. I think
I don't know if Dub's body clock was set on
Pacific time and they just weren't ready to play. They
weren't awake. It looked like it. It looked like they
were sleepy out there in the second half. In particular.
You know, we talk about Dwan Demond Williams greatness, right, and.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
He is that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Last week showed that he's a fantastic player. But when
your team depends on one player to make so many
plays and carry so much of the burden, it becomes
a problem when they're not having a good football game.
And let's face it, Demand didn't have a good football game.
But along with that, the offensive line had a terrible
game today.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
They just did.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
When he wasn't throwing interceptions, he was under pressure. The
Jonah Coleman was averaging two three yards to carry, there
wasn't a lot of room out there. There was a
lot of pressure out there between the quarterback having a
bad game and the offensive line with more injuries, I
think it's starting to take a toll on those fellas.
I think, you know, the injuries that started Ohio State
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on the offensive line. Now we're seeing better competition, those
guys aren't necessarily capable of winning these big games.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Yeah, we talked about it, the offensive line, that's a
big part of it. And what Greg said, it's correct.
As demand goes, we go. And if we have two
hundred and fifty yards total offense, yeah, pretty much we're
gonna lose two hundred and fifty yards total offense and
three turnovers.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And I think we got caught up.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You know, we had that Maryland game where the fourth
quarter I think guys thopped. Maybe, but when you play
at Michigan and Ohio State, their defensive line or their
lines period in the trenches and we're not ready for
that type of physicality. But especially with the injuries that
we have.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, reg you talked about it before the game, and look,
obviously it happened. I don't like the fact that it happened.
I don't want to excuse the fact that it happened.
But this is now the fourth consecutive Big Ten game
that ub has played where they've come out slow. Two
of those games have been at home, by the way,
so it's not all about, as you said, the eggs
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and bacon game, playing on a body clock that says
it's nine o'clock in the morning. They've scored in four
Big Ten games in the first half combined, that's eight
quarters of football. They've scored twenty points. They just are
not fighting a way to come out of the gates
even remotely warm.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And I think they tried to do something different today
to change that narrative. They came out and on the
first drive, if you guys remembered, they were going quick,
they were going temple, They weren't huddling up on every play.
They were trying to get some tempo going so that
they wouldn't have the slow start.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
And to some degree it was working. But guess what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The false start, the mistake you know that has come
back to haunt them so many times where even when
they get in the rhythm, they have a self inflicted wound.
And those things continued to happen today. There were multiple
false starts that put us behind the chains. You know,
when you get into first and fifteen or second and twelve,
it limits what you can do offensively, and it puts
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them in passing situations in Michigan. Their defensive line today
looked like they're a decent defensive line, but they blitzed
more than any team in college football. And when you
put yourself in a position where you have to pass
and the team is bringing a lot of heat and
a lot of pressure, your offensive line has got to
have a good game. And when you got backups and subs,
it just compounds the problem. So you cannot put yourself
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behind the chains. And we tried to do something different.
It was kind of working, but the mistake took the
temple away from us.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Besides the offensive line, you gotta have some weapons out there.
I'm not saying we don't have any weapons, but our
receivers are young, and Denzel Boston is not what I
would call roam a duneesday just yet. So when you're
having a bitz, it's you're up to your man to
get open. And I didn't feel like our guys got open.
I feel like Michigan was all over them all day game.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Loan, well, the first three drives you had three false
starts by three different players, right, and Garon Hatchett as
a party, and then decor the graft and now you're
dealing with kind of a you know, def con one
injury situation with your offensive line because we knew Carver
Willis was out, Max McCree, who's his backup, is now hurt,
and Swanee Fassolo had to come in. John Mills, the
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freshman was not active today, and now your best blocking
tight end, Quinton Moore, who knows what his future looks
like after today. That guy can't get a break. For
God's sakes, it was the first game of the year
last year when a guy leaves the sideline, takes him
out by his knee, and now he's got to leave
Michigan Stadium on a freaking cart, for God's sakes. But
I'm getting a little bit concerned about the lack of
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a consistent running game because I think a lot of
us thought over the offseason that with Jonah Coleman travel
no travel home away, you'll be able to run the
ball no matter what, with consistency every single game. And
this is now four Big Ten games where Jonah Coleman's
carried the ball sixty one times greg for two hundred
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and twenty yards. He's got the four touchdowns, which is great,
but he's averaging three point six two yards per carry.
The running game has not been there. Yeah, against the
Big Ten, and that was supposed to be their bread
and butter.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But when did that start? Go back to the Ohio
State game, right and and when guys got hurt. He
had some good runs in the first half of that
guy started getting hurt. And that doesn't necessarily always show
up in every game, but when you play tough competition
and you play good defenses, that's going to show up.
And right now, again, our depth hadn't been tested up
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until we got to that Ohio State game. And like
I talked about earlier in the year, that's where we're unproven,
our depth. And now that we're deeply into with our
third string left tackle right thirsting right, the third string
left tackle for just about any team, unless it's maybe
at Ohio State is probably gonna struggle against good defenses.
And so I put Joan Coleman's inability to have good
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rushing games squarely on the offensive line, because we know
he's talented, we know he runs hard, he's quick, all
of those things. But a good running back's best weapon
is a good offensive line, and right now they're not
a good offensive line.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's funny because we just we just got done on
the pregame show today kind of giving these guys some flowers.
Sure right, they were on the Joe Moore Award watch list.
I mean, it's not just us that we're sitting around
saying the offensive line is better.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
This is they are better ball, right, they are better
than horrible.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Right. So now because of the injuries, they're just they're
not themselves. They're not the offensive line that we thought
they were going to put together. And you know, look,
I meant, at minimum, we're not gonna have to worry
about the rankings anymore. I mean, let's just forget that conversation.
You forget the CFP conversation. That's ridiculous now it actually
kind of comes across his borderline idiotic from this morning
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after what we just saw today against the Michigan Wolverines.
But you know, Demon Williams is a runner. We're watching
this game thinking, man, where's the improvisation, where's the called
and designed run plays for Demon Williams? And I just
felt like there was no creativity at least with the
quarterbacks legs in this game today.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
No I wondered about that. I thought that we would
run him a lot more. I think he might have
had negative four yards in the entire.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Guess and minus nineteen rushing because they take sacks off
rushing totals.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, I didn't know if that was Michigan containing him
or that was just the coach. But I thought we've
been doing a better job of calling quarterback runs. Like
I thought their offensive coordinator was great today, Like he
had their freshmen throwing to the tight ends and the
running back all game long, a couple of different screens.
He had a great game plan for us. But I
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didn't see that with DeMont today.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, tight ends for Michigan absolutely just killed you. Dub
killed you dub today, steam routes, all kinds of things,
drag routes, whatever from the tight ends. It was not
a good day for the linebackers and the back end
covering tight ends. We're gonna break more on the Husky
Talk postgame show. Greg Lewis, Mario Bailey. We're at Toms
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Speaker 1 (10:46):
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all the tech at an un believable price. Twenty four
to seven, lost to Michigan. My god, what was unbelievable
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is the fact that you dubed Michigan, were tied at
halftime seven to seven, and then you dub just shut
themselves in the foot, the ankle, the calf, the hip,
the shoulder, whatever body part you can imagine, absolute implosion.
I mean, we're sitting here, Greg and Mario and Thom's
taking to ourselves in the first half. The team that's
beating Washington right now is Washington, not Michigan, but Washington.
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And that just became worse and worse and worse as
the second half went on, and now you got some
players that are banged up. Carver Willis and John Mills
obviously left guard left tackle, did not play jetfish with
Tony postgame talking about maybe having to put some freshmen
in at tight end, including a guy like Austin Simmons
who's a freshman from Albany, Oregon. Baron Naoti another freshman
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from West Lynne, Oregon, same high school as Elijah Moulden,
by the way, so they may have no choice but
to start burning some red shirts, especially at the tight
end spot. But what was certing for me, Greg on
the defensive side was with the tight ends for Michigan,
we're doing Deacon Tanelle Zach Marshall had eight catches for
one hundred and ten yards and a touchdown combined. Why
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did Michigan have so much success with their tight ends today?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So teams do a lot of study on your defense,
you know, and they're watching film and they're seeing how
you play in certain coverages. And what Michigan did was
take advantage of us when we got in the man coverage. Now,
when you're a man, your linebacker might be blitzing or
he might have the running back man to man and
that leaves us safety covering the tight end, and that
safety's off the ball seven eight yards deep, then they're
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gonna be able to complete those seam routes in front
of the safety because he can't get up there fast enough.
And Michigan took advantage of that. I mean, they found
the safety when we were in man coverage almost every time,
and that usually resulted in a catch seven eight yards
down the scene, and they, you know, turned some of
those into longer runs.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I thought, well, Greg's right, they schemed us. And I've
always felt all season long for a team to pass
on us. They're gonna go at our backers in our safeties,
and today they just went at They had a nice
game plan for the freshman yep, and he went at
them the entire game.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, and what kind of stinks, guys, And we talked
about this in the pregame. We're gonna get some phone
calls in a second to Natan Devin, you guys will
be first up, so bear with us in just a
second that this was for now and we'll see if
there's any resolution of the lawsuit. One of the final
two regular season games that Jacob Monu can play right,
and they got destroyed in one of those two games
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that Jacob min who can play, and I would assume
that for now, the next game might not be until
late November against Oregon in Seattle, so he might sit
out for the next month and a half or so.
So that's the real kicker that you just blew one
of your final two Jacob Manu Tokens on a twenty
four to seven loss. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I was excited to see him in the lineup me too,
warming up pregame wise, knowing that he's a type of
player that can have an impact in this game. And
you know, we've said all season long, our defensive line,
you know, the front four guys especially are you know, bodies,
but they're not necessarily big playmakers.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I mean they're not.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They're not huge playmakers. And as much I'm not gonna
put a ton of blame on them for this loss,
per se, because they kept us in the ball game.
It wasn't until the fourth quarter in the turnovers before
Michigan starts scoring a lot of points. But what they
don't do is create a lot of havoc, create a
lot of negative plays, create pressure on a quarterback to
make him throw interceptions, and so you know, unfortunately, right
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now we're relying on our safeties and our linebackers to
make big plays. And I was hoping Jacob Manu could
cause a fumble or get a strip, but unfortunately Michigan
powered us, you know as much as I. You know,
their tight ends got yards, but they ran the ball
on first down extremely well against US, and that always
puts your defense on their heels a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
No team that has Jonah Coleman on it Mario should
be outrushed by anybody one hundred and eighty seven to forty,
and this was a fourteen to seven game after three quarters.
This was still a very close, one possession game, and
Jonah Coleman was not able to get any sledding whatsoever. So,
as Greg said a few minutes ago, how much of
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that do we just say, you know what, it's just
about injuries or is there an offensive line blocking scheme
here that needs to be maybe addressed a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I'm not sure, and I was thinking of that when
Greg was talking about it. Is it just the offensive line?
But if you look at Jonah Coleman in the last
two seasons, honestly, his best games have come in the
first few games of the year like last year and
this year. But as far as Big Ten play, I
don't know what his stats are. Yeah, I bet you
He's not averaging fifty yards a game in Big ten
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play for two seasons.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
He's averaging three point six two yards per carrying the
Big Ten this year, which is not at all what
you expect out of Jonah Coleman. All right, let's go
to the phones. Nate is in Seattle. Nate, your first
up of the Hanks. What's happening, man?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Hey, how you guys doing swell?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well? Sorry?
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Sorry, my voice like crap, thanks to the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
That's why it sounds like that.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Two things I want to touch on and I just
tuned in so I know you. I just heard the
Joonah comments a little bit far, far too early. We're
going away from the run. There was the one drive
where we had some up tempo. We completed two seventeen
yard passes in a row. The interception was completely decorative
ass fault, so that drive should have kept going. But
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I was just wondering at that point, you're down fourteen
to seven, I believe, and I and it just seemed
like you're going away from the run a little bit
too early, and it's you know, the guy like Jonah Coleman.
You just kind of keep feeding them, especially when it's
only a fourteen seven or seven seven game. And secondly,
I want to touch on the graph at times. He
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just has too many brain parts. And I've never ever
seen a guy that's sixty three to forty with on
too many blocks. He looked, he just looks like he
doesn't want to engage. I don't know, I don't know
if they're not coaching them how to block. But I
hate when people and I don't want to hear any
crap about oh well, Quinton Moore's are blocking tight end.
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Anybody can block. Three years ago, we have three of
the best wide receiver blockers, and Jalen mcmilliner and the
du inside Jalen Folk I've ever seen as wide receivers,
if they can block a six three and forty pounds
man can block, it's all about you can coach him
to block, and it's all about will you'd be like
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blocking isn't like it's like a skill where it's like,
oh my god, this guy was just you know, he's
born to block, like like you can coach the can
out of blocks. He's atrocious that block. I've never seen
this one with it blocking so much, and it's it's
like the most maddening thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So I'm just Nate, I'm confused. Are you saying that
you don't think beggar to graft can block. I'm not
crystal clear on what you're telling us here on the
radio show. But Nate, listen, I've appreciate the call, my man.
But here's the deal. We know that not all tight
ends can block. They will try and block, some will
be more effective than others, and some will not be.
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See Jimmy Graham, for example, when he played for the Seahawks,
he was practically a slot receiver. For crying out loud,
he thought he was an ex but he was obviously
not a blocking tight end. I just will say this
that there's going to be a weakness when it comes
to blocking tight ends on your roster, and Decker de
Graph is not one of the better ones that you've got.
Quintin Moore is the best one that you got and
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he got banged banged up today. But going back to
what Nate was just saying there about kind of not
leading on the run. Fourteen to seven game Buck twenty
to third quarter, they got the ball to twenty five.
They've done one score. They've just had a horrific interception. Okay, Flushy,
you move on. First two plays were pass plays to
Desmond Roebuck and Denzel Boston for thirty three yards combined,
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and all of a sudden, the Huskies are inside Michigan
territory and then what happens. Boom the intercept go with
the deck of the graph. So I actually had no
problem with the idea of moving the ball through the air.
It just resulted in a pick at the one of
the worst possible times.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, I don't disagree with the caller on Jonah Coleman's
touches and running the football and sticking with it a
little more than we do. I think early in the
season I was intimating that maybe we're, you know, gonna
lean on the run this year and be a running team.
Mario used to always say last year that coach Fish
likes the game plan. I don't gonna use the word
cute like Mario says, but he says he likes to
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be a game planner, strategy type of guy.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Involving the pass. And that might be true.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It might.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, I think it means that he's he rather moved
the ball through the air sure than by running it.
And he gets tempted because, like you said, you have
two good completions and now he feels, all right, we're
in a rhythm throwing the ball, and I'm calling these players,
I'm spreading them out, and I'm making good calls instead
of all right, let's run the ball for a few
downs in a row. Let's get Jonah into a rhythm.
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Let's make sure that the run game has a huge
impact on the outcome of this. And you know, maybe
that's just not in his DNA, just not in his nature.
And you know, I think that might be true. I
absolutely think that might be true.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I think if you go back, like I just said,
if you go back to last season, he's getting jone
of those carries and stuff in those first few games.
But in Big Ten play it is I don't want
to use the word cute either, but if you want
to call it a game planning, he likes to throw
the ball more than he likes to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Well, I mean, guys, you know I was talking to
Greg about this Mario during the game that it kind
of feels like the Husky offense is a bit of
a paper tiger, right. I mean, we were all talking
about how great they were doing and the non conference
when they played nobody, and I got a little bit uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
With all that.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I got all these stats about these consecutive drives and
touchdowns and fifty points a game. It's like, guys, they
haven't played anybody yet. Let's just kind of pump the
brakes on this for a second. And now we're seeing
in the Big Ten that this offense is not what
it was in the non conference. I don't think it's
as bad as they were today because the turnovers and
the injuries just mucked everything up. But is this Do
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we really believe this is one of the elite offenses
in college football? I don't see that right now.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
It can't be because if you look at Michigan Ohio State,
we put up seven and six points.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
That's right, We're not even elite. We're not even good.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
If you look at it that way, you can't put
up seven and six points against two of the premier
Big Ten schools.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well, I think you know, the offense has some weapons,
it has some talented players, right, But what goes with
that is one having the good the guys up front
do their job, which right now we're struggling with.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
And then there's also having an identity annoying going.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Into a game. This is what we're really good at
and we're going to do this. This is the identity
of our team, which is what That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We don't have that, but that is that is My
point is this is this is a year and a
half into this, thats halfway through the year, and you're
telling the probably thing that we talked about at this
point a year ago. We're last year halfway through. You
didn't know what the identity was exactly. And that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And I've probably been you know, I try not to
be too critical because I don't want to get in
trouble and get a note, you know, to be in
the mill. But I probably have been more critical play
Calleague verbally than anybody else on this sitting up this
pedal right now. So I think at some point though,
you gotta we're gonna be this right, and this is
who we're going to be and how we're gonna play
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offensive football and how we're gonna win.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
And I still don't see that.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You can be multiple, got it, But we're multiple doing
play action pass or throwing it deep or slants, and
we run the sweep or we run this z own ring.
We're just all over the place and you never know
what we're gonna try to do.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, guys, I'll be honest with you. What I thought
they were gonna be was a team that was led
by the most dynamic athlete in the Big Ten, and
that's Demon Williams. And we saw that last week against
Rutgers when he threw for four and went for one.
You said this morning you wanted three and two just
like two weeks That's how we were gonna have. That
was the recipe to win the game today. And there
was nothing dynamic about Demon Williams today against Michigan. Maybe
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it was play calling, maybe it was injuries, Maybe it
was lack of a desire to take off. Maybe it's
a concern about getting beat to death by the opposing
defense and getting hit too many times. But when you've
got a weapon, when you have a athlete right like
you've got in DeMont Williams, you've got to get that
engine going, and they were never able to do that. Today,
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we're gonna break a lot more to get to from
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more of your phone calls. Let's go to Devin. You're
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on the air with us in Maple Valley. Hi, Devin,
how are you? Man?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Hey? You guys? What's going good? I don't feel it.
I don't feel like like we'll starting from the Ohio
State game that that defenses to have kind of said,
here's the deal. We're just gonna we're going to load
the box. We're gonna spy on on, you know, in
the backfield with our with our linebackers, and we're gonna
contain Jonah and Demon and you know, if you can
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beat us through the.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Air, then good for you.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
But if you can't, then you're you're dead. And so
I don't know. I've seen a lot of games where
I feel like Demand has spent too much time just
as a drop back, pocket passer, and that's just not
who we is. I feel like we need to play
more uptempo, which we did today, but we just couldn't
get out of our own way with fall starts. I
feel like we needed more misdirections. I feel like we
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just need to keep teams on their heels, but you know,
bottom line, and I just don't feel like we're doing that.
I feel like, you know, we are not talented enough,
stout enough, or healthy enough right now. Two you know,
to give give teams an entire play clock to reset
and line up, we've got to keep you know, teams
on their heels more. And I just don't feel like
we're doing that. So I don't I don't feel like
we're using our guys as best as they can be.
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But like you said, like you know, it's hard. Even
with our full squad, that's going to be a tough ask.
And now you ad at an injury and to keep
and tougher.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, I appreciate the call. They certainly don't seem to
be healthy enough to want to be able to play
a physical brand of football right They do need to
rely on their athleticism a little bit more. And you
kind of feel weird getting on demand for not taking
off and running after he just ran for one hundred
and damn near forty yards a week ago against Rutners.
But where was that guy? Was that Michigan taking that
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away or was that a conscious decision by Jed Fishing
and Demand to go a different direction.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I'm gonna give Michigan a lot of credit scheme wise,
both offensively and defensively. They played real assignment sound football,
and they were intent on keeping Demand in the pocket.
Number fifteen for Michigan, I saw him all day. Wherever
Demon went, he was there, so he was some sort
of a spy. But I know when we ran to
read zone and when Demand pulled the ball, number fifteen
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was standing right there like, uh uh, I'm not taking
the bite.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I'm going to stay here to contain you. If Jonah
get it when we went for it on.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Fourth down, res what we got it is when he
handed off the Jonah, number fifteen didn't bite down real hard,
so Jones able to get the one yard, but they
were willing to give that up on that end of
the field. So really, I thought they played Michigan assignment
sound football. They had players assigned to keep Demand Williams
in the pocket, and so a lot of those opportunities
were not there.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I thought it was both Michigan did a great job.
They weren't going to let him go and they wanted
to make him a pocket passer, and I spoke on
it earlier. I don't know if we have the weapons
for demand. Yeah, get back there, and we don't have
the line for him to be a pocket passer. But
Greg is right, number fifteen, number eight. They were watching
DeMont the entire game and they weren't going to let
him get out.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, the irony is that we talk about how they
may not be able to play that physical football with
the offensive line banged up, but seven to seven game,
fourth and one from their own twenty four on what
the second driver of the second half, they decided to
go for it, yeah, and run the ball, Yeah, with
Jonah Coleman right around the Gybolie.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Even taking actually it was an inside rum, but he
bounced it outside.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That was That was again, they were willing to give
up the yard or two on that end of the field,
knowingly that their defense was gonna be able to hold,
which they did eventually.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah. And and the reason they gave that yard up
is because those defensive ends, those edge guys are those
linebackers whoever ended up in that position stayed there to
contain Demon Williams.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
So the running back was able to get the yard.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, the reaction from uh mink wink Martindell, who's the
DC for Michigan, he was not happy that was able
to pick up the fourth on one. But was that
surprising to you guys that they did that? I mean
at worked, they converted, they punted the ball away three
plays later, and Michigan took over a thrown eighteen yard line.
But seven to seven game and you're rolling the dice
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and going for from your own twenty four yard line.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I love the confidence, but it's like playing a video
game because if we don't get that though, and we're
here talking about him and everybody's talking about him. But
I'm love the confidence to even try it.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, I'm not trying that. I mean there's bold and
then there's you know crazy, that a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
And so I didn't say that coach so softy, but no,
I like a cat jack. Yeah, that's just something that
I'm not you know, I wasn't that because you're you're
still in the football game. You can still play regular football.
And it goes back to the first caller. We still
could have given Joelah Coleman seven to eight more carries
this football game, and so I think that, you know,
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for me, that was a real risky play. I'm glad
it worked out. You know, it's fun for fans that
you know, let's go for it. But you know, I
probably would have punted it.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
We talked about that before, about when you when you
do those things, you know that you're probably predicted to lose,
and you're just trying anything. It's just like the fake
field goal we did a few weeks ago. We just
tried anything, but it worked out.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Ethan, Yeah, you're next step in Seattle, hy Ethan, what's
going on?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I'm a huge fan of you guys show.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I just turned eighteen and I listened every week.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
But I just got four points to say.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I think we obviously aren't big enough, but a couple
of big ones.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
We get out coached and out schemed. We don't play
complimentary football, and we obviously shoot ourselves in the foot.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Hopefully we went out before Oregon. Thanks go dogs.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
That was pretty you know it. Why listens, he just
told you right there.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't have much else to offer. Hopefully they will
went out and I'll be going up to the Oregon
game and make that game mean something. But you know, look,
I mean, obviously with the offensive line being banged up,
and who knows Carver Willis and John Mills and in
their future, they they definitely need to get those guys back.
They cannot be the best version of themselves period until
those guys return. We need we need help.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And I didn't really like Coach Fish's interview afterwards, which
part he just that we were gonna have to play
some freshmen and not just tiny ends. But he's like,
any offensive line that has this many injuries, like, you're
in trouble. So to hear your coach kind to say
you're in trouble makes me worry.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Yeah, I mean, what can he say?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Though?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Guys are hurting, they're out, and you're looking for people
to put in there, and you know, somebody's got a
step up. I think there was messaging over the last
couple of weeks that those guys might be able to
come back at some point, right you know, so you
hope that that's before it becomes too late. But you
look at the schedule right now, Illinois is not as
daunting as it looked at the beginning of the year,
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and we've seen this team be successful one at home,
and we've seen this team be successful when they're not
up against you know, really talented and I know what
Michigan's members might have said, but they had some talented
guys in their defense and or they got a really
good defensive coordinator wanted it two because they were just
one step ahead of us pretty much all they and
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DeMont had a bad game. I'm not counting on and
I don't think the other team wants to count on
Demand having a bad game, you know, week after week.
I think he has too much talent, and I think
the coaches go back look at the film, where what
opportunities did we give him the previous week that we
didn't do this time.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Let's get back to some of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, and Mario, what's kind of concerning is that this is,
you know what you're talking the seventh game of the season,
and you still have what looks like to be some
miscommunication problems between Demand and his receiving corps. Right thrown
behind deck or the draft that led to an interception
Maryland second half, there were balls that were throwing the
Denzel Boston where those guys just were out in the
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same page whatsoever. I'm just wondering if these guys are
totally on the same page with what they're doing out there,
especially with some of these route concepts. It looks it
looks like they're not.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
And I hate to say that, but honestly, I feel
like I said it earlier in this this segment, is
that I don't know if we have weapons like that.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I'm not sure we have the weapons.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
And when you have a running quarterback who's out on
the run and you have a misinterpretation of which way
this person is supposed to go, it's always gonna turn
out bad.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well sometimes you never know. Was it the quarter back
of the receiver? Sure, but but somebody I think, yeah, ers, yeah.
But here's the thing. You know, in most cases soft
the most as a receiver. If it's zone coverage, you
find a spot in the zone and you sit right,
you find that saft spot in the zone, you sit.
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If it's man coverage, you continue to go. Decor de
Graph looks like he's kind of caught in between and
he's not.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Quite sitting and he's not quite going. He's kind of floating.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
And when you float, the quarterback is now trying to
guess where are you going to be when he let
because he has to let the ball go before. So
I think there's something in decor de graph. And again
I'm not a tight ends coach, but I know me
as a running back when we ran option routes, I
had to find that sawce spot when my eyes turn
and set and give the quarterback a great target. I
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couldn't float in there, and if you float in there,
you get the quarterback in trouble. And it looked like
that happened in a little bit.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
I don't know if we should be doing this, Like
I ran to run and shoot offense, and it's an
interpretation that that you're seeing exactly what the quarterback seeing
and you're exactly right, Greg, if you're in zone, you're
gonna sit down. If you're a man, you're gonna run.
And it looks like there's confusion with the quarterback of
seeing and with the receiver of tinian scene.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Well, you mentioned the run game Mario against Ohio State
and Michigan. You know Rutgers Maryland's one thing when you
play Ohio State, big boy, and I would not put
Michigan on Ohio State's level right now, as far as
you know talent, I mean, I think Iowa State is
a absolute national championship contender, and I would not put
Michigan in that category. But you know, against Ohio State
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you scored six points and he had a super hard
time running the football. What do they do in the
Ohio State game? They ran for sixty one yards in
the Ohio State game and in this game today they
ran for four, so one hundred and one yards total.
That is crazy. With a team that's got Jonah Coleman
and DeMont Williams is a running threat at quarterback, they
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barely break one hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
But how many carries in those games?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Three against Michigan today and Ohio State was thirty.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
So fifty State, maybe you ran enough time fifty.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Three for one hundred that's two yards of carry, guys,
two against those two teams. And look, I'm not expecting
that when you dub plays Ohio State and Michigan they're
gonna average eight nine yards of carry like they do
against Rutgers or Maryland. But can you get to four?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
For God's sakes, I mean, they're I don't know, I
never had a lord than five, okay, mary average whatever,
I'm saying my per carry average for a career, I
think it was five point six the point.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, first of all, yeah, you know, you're right, You're right, yeah, Mario.
It's amazing how it always comes back to Greg number one.
Not always the first time I said something, first time
you said something about Greg this hour, But you thought
that you'd be able to run the ball on anybody
with some consistency and not get totally obliterated and shut
down like they did today.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
So I'll say this one.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Michigan might not be in the same category totally as
Ohio State. But I heard, you know, the guy, the
Michigan play by play guy, say they've recruited some really
talented guys on the defensive side.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
They're just young. Well, guess what happens during that course
of a season.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You start to get more mature, you start to grow up,
especially after a bad performance, and you can see young
guys start to become their talent level.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And I think Michigan defense has some talented players. I
think they do.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's I just said last week they had a bad performance,
so I'm sure their coaches challenged them. I'm sure they
called them out and they're telling them to live up to.
You know who they're supposed to be. So I say that,
but also again, you know, I don't care who you are.
I kid about myself, but I've always said, without question,
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the best attribute I had as a running back was
a great offensive line. And if your offensive line can't
get it done, that's what two yards Because you're getting
hit behind the line of scrimmace. That's why you're averaging
two yards of carriage. Come back and wrap this thing
up from Tom's watch bar twenty four sec. Lost to
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Speaker 1 (37:14):
Greg Lewis, who's your guy? The X ray Man?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Alexander made a big play on the fourth down stop
and had about five or six tackles, So I'll go
with him.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Mario, you agree with that. No, I'm gonna go with
the old faithful and go with Alex mcglof. Every single
week leaves the team in tackles yet again. All right,
that's it. For US twenty four to seven loss to
Michigan Monday, we'll talk to you at two o'clock on
the air in for Ian Ferness, and hopefully we're talking
about a baseball team in the World Series on Monday
at two o'clock, or we're talking about the biggest baseball
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game with Game seven in this baseball team's history. For
Greg Mario, Chris Kidd, I'm softy. We'll see a Monday. Bye,
good Oggs.