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December 19, 2025 4 mins
When is it best to just relax in retirement? Retirement expert Mark Oberlin joins us with a few tips. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm six thirty seven, Stee Kelly and Brett Pakeita. We'll
get back to traffic and whether it's some advisories out
there making things slippery, as snow is pretty heavy in
some spots right now. We have talked about a variety
of topics in retirement with our friend Mark Oberlin, who's
coming up on two years now, and a lot of

(00:23):
it has to do is stay busy. But what about
if you just want to do the opposite? Mark Oberlin
joining us once again. Thanks for doing this today.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Brother, Always a pleasure. So when is it.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Okay to I mean, I've heard so many descriptions about
the time in your retirement, the first of which your
go days when you should really be doing all that
travel and seeing all your kids and grandkids in them.
But what if you want to just chill?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
You know who says you can't do that? I mean
people that have worked for four or five decades and
they just want to sit back, put up their feet
and do nothing. That's okay. You know, there's you're you're
entitled to that after you know, forty fifty years of work.
When I first retired, people said, hey, how's it going?
It's like it just takes me twice as long as
to get nothing done. And there is some truth to that.

(01:14):
And just so you kind of wander around sometimes and
you have a list of things and you get distracted
by this or that. But I've kept very busy over
the last two years, and I would even say maybe
to the point of being too busy. So I'm looking to,
you know, try to find out this magic mix between
you know, work life type of thing. Just relax and

(01:34):
enjoy and spell the coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
So Mark, with that said, what have you noticed about
stress level? I have a neighbor who retired from his
job and he still loves to substitute, teach and do
different things. And he said to me, he said, the
one thing is I don't take anything home. You know,
I put my hours in and I choose my own schedule.
He loves that, but he goes, I don't bring anything home,
and that's where he noticed it was more stress free

(01:56):
as he was in retirement. What are your thoughts on.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That, I'd say, you know, there's it's a different kind
of stress in retirement. So yeah, you don't have to
get up at six point thirty and get showered and
drive to work and put in eight or night whatever
that schedule was. But sometimes the stress can be like
boredom or not having any structure. One of my good
friends is retiring next week, and he says, I said,
what are your thoughts? He goes, I'm just worried about

(02:20):
remaining relevant? You know, So we all try to find
that what gives us relevance in the world. Hopefully we
make it a better place. You know. Bottom line is
all the seniors are in the seventh maybe eighth inning
of their life and they need to make the remaining
days count. So, you know, stress can be relieved by
a number of things, walking, yoga, taichi. You don't have

(02:43):
to go out and you know, play pickaball for three hours,
but a lot of people do.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Let's talk a little bit about sleep or lack thereof
another one of those things like stress, that is a
major contributor. We talked to Doc appleget about this so
many times, to a lot of health issues, including things
like that a mansion in Alzheimer's. What more as a
senior can we do to be better about it?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know, seniors have a different, different sleep cycle, their
hormones change, things like medications can alter sleep patterns. Things
like physical injuries. You know, we don't repair as facts
as we used to. You know, the orthopedic surgeons love
pickleball and snow skiing because it keeps them really, really busy.

(03:26):
So these are the things you can do to you know,
cut back on caffeine and alcohol and spicy foods, just
you know, do do the logical things to get better sleep.
But sometimes, no matter what you do, you just wake
up in the middle of the night thinking about what
you used to do or what you need to do today.
But the sleep is even more important for seniors to
avoid things like to mention in Alzheimer's well.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Mark Oberlin retired a couple of years ago and has
been taking notes, and we are at the end of
his notes. And we appreciate the time that you've had
in this news segment called retirement Realities, we respect even
more that you're ready to do something else. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, I mean, we've had thirty eight great years of
chatting with you all, going all the way back to
Gary Allen, and it's time for me to move on
in a different direction as well. So I'm looking forward
to sleeping in more often.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I was just going to say, Mark, that's one stress
reliever off of your bucket list, right off to wake
up on Fridays and do Wood Radio.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
There you go, that's right. I always love it, but
I was like, I'm so tired. I needn't go back
to be.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Do it after retirement.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you
and the wife and kids.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Thanks until we see each other again.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
And the dog and the dog. There you go.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, we'll do.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I just know we're going to get a call from
you in a couple of months.
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