September 14, 2025 • 15 mins
Mindy and Mikaela discuss the assassination of Charlie Kirk in Utah.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Week for so many people across the country, yes, including
here in Ohio, that we feel it necessary to continue
our conversation about Charlie Kirk, honoring him, remembering him, praying
for his family and all of his close friends. And
because of that, when we were when Boots was leaving
and Joe Schmid's when Peek Retirement Planning was getting ready
(00:21):
to walk out, Mikayla had a story about Joe from
your son that we already mentioned on Ron Like, no way,
we said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, I mean Joe's it was wild, And I do
this issue is still important to our show and what
we do, Mindy, because families had to have conversations this
week based on how media and online media showed all
of this. But Joe, what I but I want to
say is, yeah, So the day that we had the
(00:52):
conversation with Logan and Christian, because we knew we needed
to have a conversation because all this new met online media,
you know, this video was out there. Part of that conversation,
Logan said to me, you know what, mom, He said,
that guy you know, you know that owns that you know,
(01:12):
retirement planning group. He was like he like, really, reminds
me of Charlie Kirk, and so I thought about it
and I was like, yes, you know, from the angles
of his face and I almost stumble because living his faith. Yeah,
Joe Joe Schmidtz does remind me a little of Charlie Kirk.
(01:34):
So I didn't I did not hear that conversation. I've
been at a hockey game up until now, so I
didn't know. You guys just had it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, And he said the same thing, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And the other funny thing is as Logan actually shadowed
with us at peak retirement a few weeks ago and
it was a lot of fun having a man. But
one of our masterminds was on our YouTube channel talking
about how we can make it better. And we've got
a YouTube channel with fifty six thousand subscribers for people
internet retirement, especially around people with pensions that have been
(02:03):
diligent savers. And you know, we typically have a role
where we don't listen to people talk for the first
ninety days that they work with us, because we want
him to get ingrained with everything before they give, you know,
bad advice to kind of say it nicely. But Logan
was sitting there like, hey, have you guys considered this?
And you guys have considered that, And normally I'd say, hey,
you know, don't we don't want to hear your feedback.
And I just kept saying, hey, tell me more, what else?
(02:24):
And he actually brought a ton of value and so
you know, he may have thought of he came in
there and we were able to add him value to him, but.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
He had some value to us too, So it's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I love that he really enjoyed it. I think it
was really important perspective for him to have and to
know that he kind of associates what he just experienced
a view there and maybe a little bit at your
Fourth of July party and that Yeah, I know that's
a compliment.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So yeah, I think that you called him it too.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That you remind people of Charlie Kirk, and it does
hit kind of close to home because they were around
the same age, same beliefs, and starting a company that
has been extremely successful.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah you are, yeah, around the same age. I hadn't
even really considered that because Joe is just this old
soul to me, intelligent, just so mature, and so yeah, yeah,
you know I will say this, I wish I wouldn't
have watched that video.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I think that's why people are having such a
hard time with Charlie Kirk's death, because we saw it.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
We saw him get hit with that bullet, and.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know, I didn't really know. I knew his name,
but I didn't know much about him. And I feel
like I've gotten a crash course in Charlie Kirk over
the last four or five days now. But to watch
someone be gunned down like an animal, because that is
when when that bullet hit him, his life, his soul
immediately flew out of him, I mean, and there was
(03:52):
nothing human about him in that moment in terms of
what he looked like. It's like PTSD level. So I
had to have a conversation with my kids. Because Logan
is fifteen, he has YouTube, he has TikTok, and I
knew that he'd seen that video. And I was so
angry at that moment because mindy know's traditional media historically
(04:18):
would not show that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
They didn't, they stopped it. They would show the video.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
All three networks were live coverage, and then they had
that video and they stopped the coverage as soon as
before the boys on Facebook. Oh no, not ticked on
any and it spread all over right.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And to have that conversation with your kids and to
know that they saw that, I feel like it just
desensitizes these human beings that are already to sensitize. Because, honestly,
the reason this happened, there's many reasons, but one of
the things is this person who did this was desensitized
to violence and thought it was okay to do this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
To your old punk. And you ask yourself, why what
did Charlie Kirk do that was so evil? He was
the one person in our country that would listen to
you and give you a microphone to debate him, to
debate his beliefs, his policies, his truth, his ability and
request for people to follow Jesus to live by the
(05:22):
rule of the truth of the Bible in America.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And you should never ever ever be murdered, be assassinated
for being able to speak your truth.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Let's go to the phone lines. There starting to light
up already.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Frank, I know you called in late at the raw
show and didn't have time for you, but we are
taking the time for you now. It says you have
a comment about Charlie Kirk, So go ahead, Frank, thanks
for calling into What Matters Show.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Hey, it was.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Only seventy minutes. What the heck?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But no, I feel pretty strongly about this is whether
you agree with Charlie or not. I mean, he was
out just trying to bring the conversation between two sides,
three or four sides in a positive way. And so
I think the best way that people could honor him
(06:11):
is try to beat Charlie Kirk without the bad ending
of course, you know, and just peacefully, calmly discuss things
with each other and agree to disagree if you have to,
but get the conversation out there. And I think it's
important because a lot of educational universities and schools will
only allow one side. You remember, people were upset because
(06:35):
elementary schools wanted to teach their kids about weird things.
So they go to the PTA meeting and the police
arrest them and take them out. Okay, so that's not good.
One more point is was this were these trans people?
Were they on SSRIs the serotone and reuptake in hipaters
(06:56):
and all the people are so angry on the internet.
They're so file and hate filled. Are a lot of
them are a lot of them on these also.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I mean they're celebrating. There's a certain population in our
country right now, perhaps someone you even know listening that
was celebrating, celebrating, and they're making videos of themselves because
they want people to see them celebrate the death of
Charlie Kirk. They want attention and they want a following.
(07:27):
If they could only have a smidgeon of the millions
and millions of people who followed Charlie Kirk, it's impossible.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
They will never be that. They will never have that attention.
And I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I thought about playing some sound from them, but I
don't even want to give them any attention now.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I want to deal with that, honestly. I want to say,
I've not seen any of that.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I have seen people on the left, but I've learned
so much in the last time.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I can't believe you haven't seen anything.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I've seen people on the left who are disgusted. I've
seen people on the left who say this is and Frank,
if you're still there, I want to say this. I
know folks who are on SSRIs. SSRIs are needed in
some cases, so I don't want to like drag them
through this. I think what we know right now is
(08:14):
that charge Tyler Robinson grew up in a conservative family,
was radicalized, was living with a boyfriend because the governor
said this, right, the governor of Utah said this, was radicalized,
was living with a boyfriend who was transitioning into a woman.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That is what we definitively know at this moment.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But you also know all because you grow up in
a conservative family in Utah, which is one of the
most conservative states in our nation, that doesn't mean you're
always going to stay conservative. Craft you grow up in
a democratic family, that doesn't mean you will always be
a Democrat. You get to a certain age and a
lot of twenty year olds, twenty two year olds, rebel
and they want to create their own following and their
(08:59):
own mark in this world world. So all because his
family was Republican means nothing, because they weren't the ones
who pulled the trigger. Now, in fact, they were the
ones who made him.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And I'm not suggesting that, I'm just saying that this
is the complexity of this case. And I know we're
going to talk a little bit about the family a
little later in the show. In the five o'clock hour.
What would you do if you were in their shoes?
But the complexity lies in this family was going through chaos,
no matter if you agree with what their son was
(09:30):
doing or not. This family was going through chaos prior
to this, given what was happening in their family. Because
if you have a kid who feels a certain way,
you are questioning yourself no matter what. And so it
it's so layered, mindy, it's so layered.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm just in shock that you haven't seen any of
the negativity.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I thought one people celebrate.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, let me read you just a couple of things
that were banned together, rest and piss, Get Trump next?
Headed for Trump next, let's hope. I wonder how many
people are waking up and thinking, oh, it wasn't a dream,
Now go do Trump next? Maybe Elon should be next,
just asking for half the country. And it goes on
(10:14):
and on and on. There are so many people, high
ups in colleges, high ups in businesses, like let's say,
was a business someone who would work for Joe who
went online and made derogatory comments about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
They lost their jobs because of it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So many people thought they had the audacity and the
right to oh, we're going to be cool and we're
going to celebrate Charlie Kirk's death. It's sick, it's disgusting,
and I don't want to ever know those kind of
people in my life.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And then you have a Bernie Sanders, I suppose and says,
smart and effective communicator. And in a free and democratic society,
it depends on people speaking out without fear. So what
I've learned in the last four days, and I've been
paying real close attention, is there are factions within the
(11:01):
left and in the right. And if you want me
to go into this, we don't want to go into
it now. But there are factions within the left and
factions within the right that don't agree with each other.
That is how far this spectrum reaches. So those people
who are doing that, Mandy, are the most terrible, terrible,
farthest left.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Okay, so let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You brought up, Bernie Sanders, what did you think about
the Democrats in Congress that when the Speaker of the
House asked for a moment of silence after Charlie Kirk
was shot after it was not announced yet that he
had died, and they wanted a moment of prayer. He
also wanted the moment of silence followed by a prayer.
And Democratic congress members, not all of them, but enough
(11:42):
of them interrupted that, yelled and refused to pray for
Charlie Kirk. Those are Democrat congress men and women. Those
are the leaders of our nation. What do you think
their constituents are going to do if they're allowed to
act like that? Our Congress in how E Chambers wouldn't
allow for a moment of silence or a prayer. They
(12:05):
were so rude and broke it up and screamed in yell.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So what do I think about that? I definitely knew
that it happened, But I also know that when the
Minnesota lawmakers were killed, shot and killed that that behavior
wasn't great either. Like Trump didn't call walls like, so
I don't agree with what happened on the floor.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Calling walls is one thing, But I think interrupting a
moment of silence as our congressional leader.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So I think we have a problem. You know that,
You know I think we have a problem.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know who the shooter was with the Minnesota congressional woman, right, yes,
you do?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know he was a Wall staffer.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yes, and you know that this person that's I did
a vote for taking funding away from a legal immigration
and then she got killed.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Right, So I do know that. But that's where we are.
We are in this political hotbed. And I said to
my mom, you know, bringing this back to family, I said, Mom,
does this feel like the late sixties early seventies right now?
Because to me, from everything I know from history, it
feels like that because people were talking about Charlie Kirk
and MLK right, very different individuals but very outspoken in
(13:13):
their beliefs, and both assassinated for political reasons. And it's
so interesting because my mom said she was probably in
middle school when that all went down, and she said,
you know, Michayla, I don't really remember any of it,
which I find fascinating because these are such turning points
in our society right now. I don't know how my
kids are going to be able to forget it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I will say this too.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Seeing this and knowing finding out later that this punk
was on a roof taking a shot at Charlie Kirk,
it reminded so many people of this could have been Trump,
because Trump shooter was on top of a roof a
little further away, attillar, So, how many he's had two
assassination attempts against him? How many assassination attempts did Joe
(13:58):
Biden have? How many assassination attempts? Who do you think
is one of the most vocal democratic leaders right now?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Maybe AOC?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Anyone try to take her life, anyone do anything to
any of these political activists or leaders in our nation
on the democratic side, any of them.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well the interesting moment too, right, and so you say that,
and I agree with you. But from twenty fifteen to
twenty twenty five, there have been I want to say,
twenty three acts of political violence in ten years, so
fifteen to twenty five. But in the ten years prior
to that, how many do you think there were?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Maybe two?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
They're exactly there were two between two thousand and five
and twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Since nineteen sixty eight, that was the last political assassination
in our country, and that was Jfkre were two that year,
JFK and Martin Luther King and.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Luther King and then not the same actor, Bobby Kennedy
was assassinated a few years after, right, So, and.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Then you look at Ronald Reagan was shot at I know,
Chris killing us because he's like, you guys gotta go
to a break.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
He's gotta go to break. And Joe's like, why did
I stick around for this? Waited? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We will continue this, and you know what, we see
you Dane, and we see you Kayden.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yep, We'll give you a moment here in a second.
This is what matters.
Week for so many people across the country, yes, including
here in Ohio, that we feel it necessary to continue
our conversation about Charlie Kirk, honoring him, remembering him, praying
for his family and all of his close friends. And
because of that, when we were when Boots was leaving
and Joe Schmid's when Peek Retirement Planning was getting ready
(00:21):
to walk out, Mikayla had a story about Joe from
your son that we already mentioned on Ron Like, no way,
we said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, I mean Joe's it was wild, And I do
this issue is still important to our show and what
we do, Mindy, because families had to have conversations this
week based on how media and online media showed all
of this. But Joe, what I but I want to
say is, yeah, So the day that we had the
(00:52):
conversation with Logan and Christian, because we knew we needed
to have a conversation because all this new met online media,
you know, this video was out there. Part of that conversation,
Logan said to me, you know what, mom, He said,
that guy you know, you know that owns that you know,
(01:12):
retirement planning group. He was like he like, really, reminds
me of Charlie Kirk, and so I thought about it
and I was like, yes, you know, from the angles
of his face and I almost stumble because living his faith. Yeah,
Joe Joe Schmidtz does remind me a little of Charlie Kirk.
(01:34):
So I didn't I did not hear that conversation. I've
been at a hockey game up until now, so I
didn't know. You guys just had it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, And he said the same thing, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And the other funny thing is as Logan actually shadowed
with us at peak retirement a few weeks ago and
it was a lot of fun having a man. But
one of our masterminds was on our YouTube channel talking
about how we can make it better. And we've got
a YouTube channel with fifty six thousand subscribers for people
internet retirement, especially around people with pensions that have been
(02:03):
diligent savers. And you know, we typically have a role
where we don't listen to people talk for the first
ninety days that they work with us, because we want
him to get ingrained with everything before they give, you know,
bad advice to kind of say it nicely. But Logan
was sitting there like, hey, have you guys considered this?
And you guys have considered that, And normally I'd say, hey,
you know, don't we don't want to hear your feedback.
And I just kept saying, hey, tell me more, what else?
(02:24):
And he actually brought a ton of value and so
you know, he may have thought of he came in
there and we were able to add him value to him, but.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
He had some value to us too, So it's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I love that he really enjoyed it. I think it
was really important perspective for him to have and to
know that he kind of associates what he just experienced
a view there and maybe a little bit at your
Fourth of July party and that Yeah, I know that's
a compliment.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So yeah, I think that you called him it too.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That you remind people of Charlie Kirk, and it does
hit kind of close to home because they were around
the same age, same beliefs, and starting a company that
has been extremely successful.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah you are, yeah, around the same age. I hadn't
even really considered that because Joe is just this old
soul to me, intelligent, just so mature, and so yeah, yeah,
you know I will say this, I wish I wouldn't
have watched that video.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I think that's why people are having such a
hard time with Charlie Kirk's death, because we saw it.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
We saw him get hit with that bullet, and.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know, I didn't really know. I knew his name,
but I didn't know much about him. And I feel
like I've gotten a crash course in Charlie Kirk over
the last four or five days now. But to watch
someone be gunned down like an animal, because that is
when when that bullet hit him, his life, his soul
immediately flew out of him, I mean, and there was
(03:52):
nothing human about him in that moment in terms of
what he looked like. It's like PTSD level. So I
had to have a conversation with my kids. Because Logan
is fifteen, he has YouTube, he has TikTok, and I
knew that he'd seen that video. And I was so
angry at that moment because mindy know's traditional media historically
(04:18):
would not show that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
They didn't, they stopped it. They would show the video.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
All three networks were live coverage, and then they had
that video and they stopped the coverage as soon as
before the boys on Facebook. Oh no, not ticked on
any and it spread all over right.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And to have that conversation with your kids and to
know that they saw that, I feel like it just
desensitizes these human beings that are already to sensitize. Because, honestly,
the reason this happened, there's many reasons, but one of
the things is this person who did this was desensitized
to violence and thought it was okay to do this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
To your old punk. And you ask yourself, why what
did Charlie Kirk do that was so evil? He was
the one person in our country that would listen to
you and give you a microphone to debate him, to
debate his beliefs, his policies, his truth, his ability and
request for people to follow Jesus to live by the
(05:22):
rule of the truth of the Bible in America.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And you should never ever ever be murdered, be assassinated
for being able to speak your truth.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Let's go to the phone lines. There starting to light
up already.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Frank, I know you called in late at the raw
show and didn't have time for you, but we are
taking the time for you now. It says you have
a comment about Charlie Kirk, So go ahead, Frank, thanks
for calling into What Matters Show.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Hey, it was.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Only seventy minutes. What the heck?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But no, I feel pretty strongly about this is whether
you agree with Charlie or not. I mean, he was
out just trying to bring the conversation between two sides,
three or four sides in a positive way. And so
I think the best way that people could honor him
(06:11):
is try to beat Charlie Kirk without the bad ending
of course, you know, and just peacefully, calmly discuss things
with each other and agree to disagree if you have to,
but get the conversation out there. And I think it's
important because a lot of educational universities and schools will
only allow one side. You remember, people were upset because
(06:35):
elementary schools wanted to teach their kids about weird things.
So they go to the PTA meeting and the police
arrest them and take them out. Okay, so that's not good.
One more point is was this were these trans people?
Were they on SSRIs the serotone and reuptake in hipaters
(06:56):
and all the people are so angry on the internet.
They're so file and hate filled. Are a lot of
them are a lot of them on these also.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I mean they're celebrating. There's a certain population in our
country right now, perhaps someone you even know listening that
was celebrating, celebrating, and they're making videos of themselves because
they want people to see them celebrate the death of
Charlie Kirk. They want attention and they want a following.
(07:27):
If they could only have a smidgeon of the millions
and millions of people who followed Charlie Kirk, it's impossible.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
They will never be that. They will never have that attention.
And I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I thought about playing some sound from them, but I
don't even want to give them any attention now.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I want to deal with that, honestly. I want to say,
I've not seen any of that.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I have seen people on the left, but I've learned
so much in the last time.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I can't believe you haven't seen anything.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I've seen people on the left who are disgusted. I've
seen people on the left who say this is and Frank,
if you're still there, I want to say this. I
know folks who are on SSRIs. SSRIs are needed in
some cases, so I don't want to like drag them
through this. I think what we know right now is
(08:14):
that charge Tyler Robinson grew up in a conservative family,
was radicalized, was living with a boyfriend because the governor
said this, right, the governor of Utah said this, was radicalized,
was living with a boyfriend who was transitioning into a woman.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That is what we definitively know at this moment.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But you also know all because you grow up in
a conservative family in Utah, which is one of the
most conservative states in our nation, that doesn't mean you're
always going to stay conservative. Craft you grow up in
a democratic family, that doesn't mean you will always be
a Democrat. You get to a certain age and a
lot of twenty year olds, twenty two year olds, rebel
and they want to create their own following and their
(08:59):
own mark in this world world. So all because his
family was Republican means nothing, because they weren't the ones
who pulled the trigger. Now, in fact, they were the
ones who made him.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And I'm not suggesting that, I'm just saying that this
is the complexity of this case. And I know we're
going to talk a little bit about the family a
little later in the show. In the five o'clock hour.
What would you do if you were in their shoes?
But the complexity lies in this family was going through chaos,
no matter if you agree with what their son was
(09:30):
doing or not. This family was going through chaos prior
to this, given what was happening in their family. Because
if you have a kid who feels a certain way,
you are questioning yourself no matter what. And so it
it's so layered, mindy, it's so layered.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm just in shock that you haven't seen any of
the negativity.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I thought one people celebrate.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, let me read you just a couple of things
that were banned together, rest and piss, Get Trump next?
Headed for Trump next, let's hope. I wonder how many
people are waking up and thinking, oh, it wasn't a dream,
Now go do Trump next? Maybe Elon should be next,
just asking for half the country. And it goes on
(10:14):
and on and on. There are so many people, high
ups in colleges, high ups in businesses, like let's say,
was a business someone who would work for Joe who
went online and made derogatory comments about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
They lost their jobs because of it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So many people thought they had the audacity and the
right to oh, we're going to be cool and we're
going to celebrate Charlie Kirk's death. It's sick, it's disgusting,
and I don't want to ever know those kind of
people in my life.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And then you have a Bernie Sanders, I suppose and says,
smart and effective communicator. And in a free and democratic society,
it depends on people speaking out without fear. So what
I've learned in the last four days, and I've been
paying real close attention, is there are factions within the
(11:01):
left and in the right. And if you want me
to go into this, we don't want to go into
it now. But there are factions within the left and
factions within the right that don't agree with each other.
That is how far this spectrum reaches. So those people
who are doing that, Mandy, are the most terrible, terrible,
farthest left.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Okay, so let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You brought up, Bernie Sanders, what did you think about
the Democrats in Congress that when the Speaker of the
House asked for a moment of silence after Charlie Kirk
was shot after it was not announced yet that he
had died, and they wanted a moment of prayer. He
also wanted the moment of silence followed by a prayer.
And Democratic congress members, not all of them, but enough
(11:42):
of them interrupted that, yelled and refused to pray for
Charlie Kirk. Those are Democrat congress men and women. Those
are the leaders of our nation. What do you think
their constituents are going to do if they're allowed to
act like that? Our Congress in how E Chambers wouldn't
allow for a moment of silence or a prayer. They
(12:05):
were so rude and broke it up and screamed in yell.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So what do I think about that? I definitely knew
that it happened, But I also know that when the
Minnesota lawmakers were killed, shot and killed that that behavior
wasn't great either. Like Trump didn't call walls like, so
I don't agree with what happened on the floor.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Calling walls is one thing, But I think interrupting a
moment of silence as our congressional leader.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So I think we have a problem. You know that,
You know I think we have a problem.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know who the shooter was with the Minnesota congressional woman, right, yes,
you do?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know he was a Wall staffer.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yes, and you know that this person that's I did
a vote for taking funding away from a legal immigration
and then she got killed.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Right, So I do know that. But that's where we are.
We are in this political hotbed. And I said to
my mom, you know, bringing this back to family, I said, Mom,
does this feel like the late sixties early seventies right now?
Because to me, from everything I know from history, it
feels like that because people were talking about Charlie Kirk
and MLK right, very different individuals but very outspoken in
(13:13):
their beliefs, and both assassinated for political reasons. And it's
so interesting because my mom said she was probably in
middle school when that all went down, and she said,
you know, Michayla, I don't really remember any of it,
which I find fascinating because these are such turning points
in our society right now. I don't know how my
kids are going to be able to forget it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I will say this too.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Seeing this and knowing finding out later that this punk
was on a roof taking a shot at Charlie Kirk,
it reminded so many people of this could have been Trump,
because Trump shooter was on top of a roof a
little further away, attillar, So, how many he's had two
assassination attempts against him? How many assassination attempts did Joe
(13:58):
Biden have? How many assassination attempts? Who do you think
is one of the most vocal democratic leaders right now?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Maybe AOC?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Anyone try to take her life, anyone do anything to
any of these political activists or leaders in our nation
on the democratic side, any of them.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well the interesting moment too, right, and so you say that,
and I agree with you. But from twenty fifteen to
twenty twenty five, there have been I want to say,
twenty three acts of political violence in ten years, so
fifteen to twenty five. But in the ten years prior
to that, how many do you think there were?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Maybe two?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
They're exactly there were two between two thousand and five
and twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Since nineteen sixty eight, that was the last political assassination
in our country, and that was Jfkre were two that year,
JFK and Martin Luther King and.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Luther King and then not the same actor, Bobby Kennedy
was assassinated a few years after, right, So, and.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Then you look at Ronald Reagan was shot at I know,
Chris killing us because he's like, you guys gotta go
to a break.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
He's gotta go to break. And Joe's like, why did
I stick around for this? Waited? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We will continue this, and you know what, we see
you Dane, and we see you Kayden.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yep, We'll give you a moment here in a second.
This is what matters.
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