July 9, 2023 • 13 mins
Anthony Dental's Dr. Dave tells us his story of how he helps others face their fears at his office.
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(00:00):
Appropriately enough. We were just talkingabout biggest fears and phobias, and for
a lot of people, it's thatfear of going to the dentist for some
reason or not. Were you everscared of your dentist, MICHAELA. No.
I had a wonderful dentist growing upin Central Illinois, and because of
that, I went to that dentistuntil I was like twenty five years old,
(00:23):
twenty six years old because I movedback home to work in TV.
So no, I had a greatexperience. There is a dentist who we've
been trying to be part of theshow because I've heard nothing but great things
about him, Anthony Dental Care outof Sunbury, Doctor Dave Anthony is in
house right now. You were scaredof something, right, You had a
fear of your own? Oh?Yeah, absolutely, I was when I
(00:47):
was a little infante. My momtold the story I was. I was
an infant. I couldn't even breathe, and she said it sounded like a
whistle, and she did and shedidn't know, you know, I stopped
breathing and I turned blue and umand she just said a prayer and and
all of a sudden I started breathing. She didn't know who she was praying
to at the time, but uh, that that that lack of breath.
(01:07):
It started off with asthma as aninfant, and then it kind of grew
out. And then when I wasabout seventeen years old, I had some
shellfish and I just I couldn't breathe. I had this like type one hypersensitivity
reaction. Uh, and I couldn'teven breathe through my lung. My dad
threw me in the shower. Mydad was a dentist too, but he
threw me in the shower and tryingto try to chill, you know,
(01:29):
make it cold so I could breathe. And then I was finally able to
catch my breath. And then,Uh, actually I missed one of the
events in my life. I don'tknow if you guys remember the um the
wine dot lake, the wave Yeahyeah, yeah, so the wave pool.
Uh, this was this kid thatheld me under water. No random,
(01:53):
it was it was a friend.It was actually a friend's brother of
mine. That's kind. I thoughtI was done. I mean I literally
I thought this was my last breath. I I I thought I was going
to die. How long he holdyou under water? Floor. I didn't
count. I was just I didn'tcount. Just I just knew I had
just second slept. I mean II just knew I was starting to lose
(02:13):
my consciences. Oh my gosh.So yeah, go ahead. So I
was just gonna say, so breathingfor you, when you're in a situation
where you can't find your breath,that is a phobia, fear free.
So let me just continue on thestory. Okay, we'll get there.
Yeah. So I get into mythirties and then the asthma starts coming back,
and so you know, every timeI start wheezing a little bit,
I had to take that inhaler andthen it gets worse and worse and worse.
(02:37):
And I didn't even realize what theasthma was coming from. You know,
the doctors classifies it as like allergyinduced asthma. And I had to
you know, I was I washitting a inhaler maybe, I don't know.
Fifteen times a day, I'd wakeup the middle of the night,
like terrified that I wasn't gonna getmy breath. I didn't even realize I
had a fear of losing my breathor not being able to I didn't even
(03:00):
realize I had it. And Ithink as I reflect on it, I
think it's stemmed from those events inmy past. I mean you could trace
them back. You know, sometimesdon't know where where these things come from.
And I think it's how we handlethe traumatic experiences in our life,
and that ends up being a cripplingthing for you. So you can't live
(03:22):
life the way it's supposed to belived. So I think instead of being
a dentist, you should have beena counselor well, you know, you
know how life is. You gothrough experiences. We've all gone through experiences.
We all have our story and we'vehad some difficult times and then we've
learned from those stories and we wereable to either help somebody with those stories
how you income it or and whatnot. But it's funny that that I that
(03:45):
that got allowed me to go throughthat story I just gave you because at
the office in dentistry, people walkin terrified. Why horrified? Why you
know they have a story too.Maybe when they were a kid, that
dennist didn't numb him, that theyheld numb them, they held him down,
they did you know, they youknow, they just they rushed it
(04:10):
and and it was it was peoplewere screaming, and so they're worried.
So they're worried that it's going tohappen again, and so it embedds itself
as a fear. Something happens inthe brain. And I think we let
that that that situation and like association, and then we let we let it
feed into us. Somehow there's aconnection between the past event and then the
(04:30):
current event. The smell of tooth. Thus, say, the the sounds,
you're going to hit a nerve.It's almost like the dog and the
pavlogs, you know that the belland the salivating and yeah, you know,
because they're associated with food. Ithink we have a hard time getting
over that association. And a lotof people it trips them up. They
(04:51):
haven't handled it well, they haven'trecognized it. It's a fear, and
they haven't dealt with it properly.I think you got to go to the
core, the root of the problem. Anyway, So what do you do.
I've heard that you help people handlesome of this at your office,
So that's thank thank you for askingthat question. I was when I realized
(05:12):
I had a massive fear in mylife. What I did, I was
grabbing on the inhaler left and right. I said, I realized. I
realized I had this fear of notbeing able to breathe. And I just
said a prayer. I know thissounds crazy, No, I said a
prayer, I said, I said, fear be gone in the name of
Jesus. And I'm telling you whatit was gone like that. No,
(05:33):
I believe I'm not joking, andyou know so, So fast forward to
where I'm at right now. Ihave people terrified walking in the office.
They've been beaten and bruised from thepast. Maybe an old dentist that put
their foot on their chests while they'retaking out their wisdom too. I'm trying
to find that this I don't knowwho it is, but he's out there
(05:53):
somewhere. I've heard that story somany times. What is he saying?
Now, I'm just do they comein like this? Yeah, they come
in just terrified. You can feelit in the room you walk in.
They haven't even met me, terrified, you can feel the tensity. Can
you obviously do something to relieve that? This is what I just do my
(06:15):
best, he does. I domy best at my dad home when he's
you know, he made people feelcomfortable. But I just I sit there,
I just be friend them for asecond. I can tell they're tense.
I can tell they're they're they're they'rea little you can see, you
can see the anxiety on the face. You can see it in the eyes.
Um you can feel it. Ijust do my best to just connect
(06:38):
to them in a small way.And then I just I just assure them
that this is going to be anokay in appointment and we're gonna get through
this. And then and then Iand then when I go to numb them,
I say a prayer. I justliterally pray right then and there I
cast this fear out of the room, this anxiety of the room, name
of Jesus. And then I say, I invite the Holy invite the piece
(07:00):
in the room. And then,oh my god, so simple, that's
so awesome. Why did you wantto be a dentist in the first place?
Was it just because you know yousaw your dad doing in the difference
he made in so many lives,you thought you would just follow suit my
dad. I was the youngest offour. I was too Dave are the
best. I was the last hopemy dad had a nice business and had
(07:24):
great, great employees, and hehad great people take it over. He
didn't he didn't want to. Hewanted me to be a dentist. He
always thought I had had good handskills. And at the time, I
didn't know, Like all of us, we don't know what we want to
do, and we ryan our parentsto help us kind of find our calling.
And I guess thankfully, I didn'tknow I wanted to be a dentist.
I thought I wanted to be this. I just listened to my dad.
He said, Dave, you'd begreat dentist, and so I just
(07:46):
kind of out of faith listened tomy father and it worked out great because
it fits my skill sets. Liketo the team. So you have a
couple of practices, tell us wherethose are and the things that you're doing
in some of those. Yeah.So, um, we got the home
the Sunbury locations the when my dadstarted, and then um, it's grown.
(08:07):
It's probably five dentists sarenet I meanfive dentists there. And then we
recently acquired about a year ago practiceat Centerburg. Centerburg's great town growing right
around that area. I feel likeI hear about that. Yeah, it's
it's you know, that whole Ithink that whole Intel thing is going to
happen, is growing, and itis growing. I think Centerburg now is
(08:30):
kind of what Subury used to be. Subery's really growing significant. It is.
Yeah. Um, and then youdo marketing for him and other things
as well. What do you thinkis his best quality? Obviously, Kayla
and I are just watching you,just mesmerized by the way you talk and
your voice and the way he iswith people. Well, what you see
here is what you see in thepractice. I mean he he connects with
(08:52):
people. Um, you meet peoplethat have that you say, you work
there. Oh, we love doctorDave here at all the time time.
It's his personality. I mean alot of people have that fear like we're
talking about. But if you cancome someplace and you can connect with the
people that are there, like doctorDave, like our dental assistants, our
(09:13):
higgenist, our front desk, everybodythere is for the patient, and it's
about the experience that you have,because we don't want people to walk out
of there and continue to have thatfear, or if it's their first time.
I mean, I'm blessed. Bothof my kids love going to the
dentist. But I can't imagine ifyou have a bad experience to try to
step back in a place like that, you know, and if you don't,
(09:35):
you know, you don't have thatgood experience, that next time you're
not going to go back, andyou know, or all healthcare don't care
so important, so important, Butyou have to have that comfort zone.
Obviously, you give your patience thatcomfort zone. I understand for dentist.
Summer is one of the busiest timesof the year because kids are out of
school and now is the time thatyou don't have to schedule around school or
(09:58):
at ativities, so they really goand make their visits in the summer.
That right, the kid count comesbig in the summer. Don't count the
adult dentistry. You're kind of lookingat January, February, December, November,
but in the summer it's all outkids. Yeah, I saw recently.
I don't know if you knew thisor not, Michaela, but you
do a lot for the community thatI do know. With my sister have
(10:20):
a flowershop there on Sunday for somany years. Oh my gosh, I
saw recently one of the things youjust did it was for the big wallet
football team. Didn't you just fitall of their mouthguards? Yeah. When
I was at a high state,I was one of the team dentists there.
We did the mouthguards for a highstate, the football team, the
football team, basketball, lacrosse,field, hockey, all the all.
(10:41):
They ask where you're gonna jam yourteeth up if you don't have the right
guard. Yeah, And I lovesports. I relate to people at playing
sports. I grew up playing sports. I live sports until I got into
you know, graduate school. Butum so, I always had a heart
for the football players. In thesecustom made mouth guards, they go up
in there in a way where ithelps prevent like like concussion, And I
(11:03):
mean you can see these are qualitymouth guards. They go up in areas
that need to be captured that theboil and bite just doesn't do a good
chat. I have a hockey playerat home. You're a single way hockey
player, and yeah, boil andbite does not work as much as it
could. Wait a minute, Amouth guard can prevent a concussion, yeah,
yeah, yeah, you decrease yourchances of having it the concussion if
you have a properly fitted mouth guardthat protects you correctly. Yeah, something
(11:26):
I don't know exactly, but likewhen you get hit, you can get
it goes up right sometimes chin yourdraw un So if you have something to
cushion it would be my guest,it's helpful potentially. Yeah. Um,
well you've got great teeth. Bythe way it does. It is ten
minutes goes by so fast with youbecause we're we we're there. I hope,
(11:48):
I hope you come back in andvisits. We can talk about healthcare
and related to your teeth, wecould talk more about sports man the hockey
players and football players and the folksthat I know in my life. Yeah,
I mean needed. So how canpeople find do you? You know,
those who are having fear, thosewho aren't just want to have a
great community experience. How can theyfind you? Guys? Whichever one you
wants to take itsit our website SoAnthony donelcare dot com or you can find
(12:11):
us on Facebook. Both of ourpractices, Ceneberg and Sunbury have Facebook pages.
We'd love you for all of youto follow alot. Anthony denel Care,
I'm so glad we finally got youin studio. What a pleasure it
was, My gosh, what agood speaker. Do you do motivational speaking?
You should? You should? Ilike you know, I'm always interacting
(12:33):
with people and now the same thingyou guys do all day, so this
is very easy for me. Thisis amazing. I did see on your
on one of your Facebook posts becauseI was going through you. Yeah,
I saw you had an I heeartJesus heat. Oh that's hilarious. My
daughter has the exact same heat shedoes. And I believe in the power
prayer. I believe that my mom'sstill here today because in part of the
power of prayer. Yeah, soI hear what you're saying, and I
(12:54):
totally appreciated. Prayer is very powerful. Yes it is. I have tested
it and I have seen the result, and no one can convince me otherwise.
That's why the parents are so powerful, because there's belief behind the prayer.
Doctor day are great to have youin today. This is what matters
on six ten WTVN
Appropriately enough. We were just talkingabout biggest fears and phobias, and for
a lot of people, it's thatfear of going to the dentist for some
reason or not. Were you everscared of your dentist, MICHAELA. No.
I had a wonderful dentist growing upin Central Illinois, and because of
that, I went to that dentistuntil I was like twenty five years old,
(00:23):
twenty six years old because I movedback home to work in TV.
So no, I had a greatexperience. There is a dentist who we've
been trying to be part of theshow because I've heard nothing but great things
about him, Anthony Dental Care outof Sunbury, Doctor Dave Anthony is in
house right now. You were scaredof something, right, You had a
fear of your own? Oh?Yeah, absolutely, I was when I
(00:47):
was a little infante. My momtold the story I was. I was
an infant. I couldn't even breathe, and she said it sounded like a
whistle, and she did and shedidn't know, you know, I stopped
breathing and I turned blue and umand she just said a prayer and and
all of a sudden I started breathing. She didn't know who she was praying
to at the time, but uh, that that that lack of breath.
(01:07):
It started off with asthma as aninfant, and then it kind of grew
out. And then when I wasabout seventeen years old, I had some
shellfish and I just I couldn't breathe. I had this like type one hypersensitivity
reaction. Uh, and I couldn'teven breathe through my lung. My dad
threw me in the shower. Mydad was a dentist too, but he
threw me in the shower and tryingto try to chill, you know,
(01:29):
make it cold so I could breathe. And then I was finally able to
catch my breath. And then,Uh, actually I missed one of the
events in my life. I don'tknow if you guys remember the um the
wine dot lake, the wave Yeahyeah, yeah, so the wave pool.
Uh, this was this kid thatheld me under water. No random,
(01:53):
it was it was a friend.It was actually a friend's brother of
mine. That's kind. I thoughtI was done. I mean I literally
I thought this was my last breath. I I I thought I was going
to die. How long he holdyou under water? Floor. I didn't
count. I was just I didn'tcount. Just I just knew I had
just second slept. I mean II just knew I was starting to lose
(02:13):
my consciences. Oh my gosh.So yeah, go ahead. So I
was just gonna say, so breathingfor you, when you're in a situation
where you can't find your breath,that is a phobia, fear free.
So let me just continue on thestory. Okay, we'll get there.
Yeah. So I get into mythirties and then the asthma starts coming back,
and so you know, every timeI start wheezing a little bit,
I had to take that inhaler andthen it gets worse and worse and worse.
(02:37):
And I didn't even realize what theasthma was coming from. You know,
the doctors classifies it as like allergyinduced asthma. And I had to
you know, I was I washitting a inhaler maybe, I don't know.
Fifteen times a day, I'd wakeup the middle of the night,
like terrified that I wasn't gonna getmy breath. I didn't even realize I
had a fear of losing my breathor not being able to I didn't even
(03:00):
realize I had it. And Ithink as I reflect on it, I
think it's stemmed from those events inmy past. I mean you could trace
them back. You know, sometimesdon't know where where these things come from.
And I think it's how we handlethe traumatic experiences in our life,
and that ends up being a cripplingthing for you. So you can't live
(03:22):
life the way it's supposed to belived. So I think instead of being
a dentist, you should have beena counselor well, you know, you
know how life is. You gothrough experiences. We've all gone through experiences.
We all have our story and we'vehad some difficult times and then we've
learned from those stories and we wereable to either help somebody with those stories
how you income it or and whatnot. But it's funny that that I that
(03:45):
that got allowed me to go throughthat story I just gave you because at
the office in dentistry, people walkin terrified. Why horrified? Why you
know they have a story too.Maybe when they were a kid, that
dennist didn't numb him, that theyheld numb them, they held him down,
they did you know, they youknow, they just they rushed it
(04:10):
and and it was it was peoplewere screaming, and so they're worried.
So they're worried that it's going tohappen again, and so it embedds itself
as a fear. Something happens inthe brain. And I think we let
that that that situation and like association, and then we let we let it
feed into us. Somehow there's aconnection between the past event and then the
(04:30):
current event. The smell of tooth. Thus, say, the the sounds,
you're going to hit a nerve.It's almost like the dog and the
pavlogs, you know that the belland the salivating and yeah, you know,
because they're associated with food. Ithink we have a hard time getting
over that association. And a lotof people it trips them up. They
(04:51):
haven't handled it well, they haven'trecognized it. It's a fear, and
they haven't dealt with it properly.I think you got to go to the
core, the root of the problem. Anyway, So what do you do.
I've heard that you help people handlesome of this at your office,
So that's thank thank you for askingthat question. I was when I realized
(05:12):
I had a massive fear in mylife. What I did, I was
grabbing on the inhaler left and right. I said, I realized. I
realized I had this fear of notbeing able to breathe. And I just
said a prayer. I know thissounds crazy, No, I said a
prayer, I said, I said, fear be gone in the name of
Jesus. And I'm telling you whatit was gone like that. No,
(05:33):
I believe I'm not joking, andyou know so, So fast forward to
where I'm at right now. Ihave people terrified walking in the office.
They've been beaten and bruised from thepast. Maybe an old dentist that put
their foot on their chests while they'retaking out their wisdom too. I'm trying
to find that this I don't knowwho it is, but he's out there
(05:53):
somewhere. I've heard that story somany times. What is he saying?
Now, I'm just do they comein like this? Yeah, they come
in just terrified. You can feelit in the room you walk in.
They haven't even met me, terrified, you can feel the tensity. Can
you obviously do something to relieve that? This is what I just do my
(06:15):
best, he does. I domy best at my dad home when he's
you know, he made people feelcomfortable. But I just I sit there,
I just be friend them for asecond. I can tell they're tense.
I can tell they're they're they're they'rea little you can see, you
can see the anxiety on the face. You can see it in the eyes.
Um you can feel it. Ijust do my best to just connect
(06:38):
to them in a small way.And then I just I just assure them
that this is going to be anokay in appointment and we're gonna get through
this. And then and then Iand then when I go to numb them,
I say a prayer. I justliterally pray right then and there I
cast this fear out of the room, this anxiety of the room, name
of Jesus. And then I say, I invite the Holy invite the piece
(07:00):
in the room. And then,oh my god, so simple, that's
so awesome. Why did you wantto be a dentist in the first place?
Was it just because you know yousaw your dad doing in the difference
he made in so many lives,you thought you would just follow suit my
dad. I was the youngest offour. I was too Dave are the
best. I was the last hopemy dad had a nice business and had
(07:24):
great, great employees, and hehad great people take it over. He
didn't he didn't want to. Hewanted me to be a dentist. He
always thought I had had good handskills. And at the time, I
didn't know, Like all of us, we don't know what we want to
do, and we ryan our parentsto help us kind of find our calling.
And I guess thankfully, I didn'tknow I wanted to be a dentist.
I thought I wanted to be this. I just listened to my dad.
He said, Dave, you'd begreat dentist, and so I just
(07:46):
kind of out of faith listened tomy father and it worked out great because
it fits my skill sets. Liketo the team. So you have a
couple of practices, tell us wherethose are and the things that you're doing
in some of those. Yeah.So, um, we got the home
the Sunbury locations the when my dadstarted, and then um, it's grown.
(08:07):
It's probably five dentists sarenet I meanfive dentists there. And then we
recently acquired about a year ago practiceat Centerburg. Centerburg's great town growing right
around that area. I feel likeI hear about that. Yeah, it's
it's you know, that whole Ithink that whole Intel thing is going to
happen, is growing, and itis growing. I think Centerburg now is
(08:30):
kind of what Subury used to be. Subery's really growing significant. It is.
Yeah. Um, and then youdo marketing for him and other things
as well. What do you thinkis his best quality? Obviously, Kayla
and I are just watching you,just mesmerized by the way you talk and
your voice and the way he iswith people. Well, what you see
here is what you see in thepractice. I mean he he connects with
(08:52):
people. Um, you meet peoplethat have that you say, you work
there. Oh, we love doctorDave here at all the time time.
It's his personality. I mean alot of people have that fear like we're
talking about. But if you cancome someplace and you can connect with the
people that are there, like doctorDave, like our dental assistants, our
(09:13):
higgenist, our front desk, everybodythere is for the patient, and it's
about the experience that you have,because we don't want people to walk out
of there and continue to have thatfear, or if it's their first time.
I mean, I'm blessed. Bothof my kids love going to the
dentist. But I can't imagine ifyou have a bad experience to try to
step back in a place like that, you know, and if you don't,
(09:35):
you know, you don't have thatgood experience, that next time you're
not going to go back, andyou know, or all healthcare don't care
so important, so important, Butyou have to have that comfort zone.
Obviously, you give your patience thatcomfort zone. I understand for dentist.
Summer is one of the busiest timesof the year because kids are out of
school and now is the time thatyou don't have to schedule around school or
(09:58):
at ativities, so they really goand make their visits in the summer.
That right, the kid count comesbig in the summer. Don't count the
adult dentistry. You're kind of lookingat January, February, December, November,
but in the summer it's all outkids. Yeah, I saw recently.
I don't know if you knew thisor not, Michaela, but you
do a lot for the community thatI do know. With my sister have
(10:20):
a flowershop there on Sunday for somany years. Oh my gosh, I
saw recently one of the things youjust did it was for the big wallet
football team. Didn't you just fitall of their mouthguards? Yeah. When
I was at a high state,I was one of the team dentists there.
We did the mouthguards for a highstate, the football team, the
football team, basketball, lacrosse,field, hockey, all the all.
(10:41):
They ask where you're gonna jam yourteeth up if you don't have the right
guard. Yeah, And I lovesports. I relate to people at playing
sports. I grew up playing sports. I live sports until I got into
you know, graduate school. Butum so, I always had a heart
for the football players. In thesecustom made mouth guards, they go up
in there in a way where ithelps prevent like like concussion, And I
(11:03):
mean you can see these are qualitymouth guards. They go up in areas
that need to be captured that theboil and bite just doesn't do a good
chat. I have a hockey playerat home. You're a single way hockey
player, and yeah, boil andbite does not work as much as it
could. Wait a minute, Amouth guard can prevent a concussion, yeah,
yeah, yeah, you decrease yourchances of having it the concussion if
you have a properly fitted mouth guardthat protects you correctly. Yeah, something
(11:26):
I don't know exactly, but likewhen you get hit, you can get
it goes up right sometimes chin yourdraw un So if you have something to
cushion it would be my guest,it's helpful potentially. Yeah. Um,
well you've got great teeth. Bythe way it does. It is ten
minutes goes by so fast with youbecause we're we we're there. I hope,
(11:48):
I hope you come back in andvisits. We can talk about healthcare
and related to your teeth, wecould talk more about sports man the hockey
players and football players and the folksthat I know in my life. Yeah,
I mean needed. So how canpeople find do you? You know,
those who are having fear, thosewho aren't just want to have a
great community experience. How can theyfind you? Guys? Whichever one you
wants to take itsit our website SoAnthony donelcare dot com or you can find
(12:11):
us on Facebook. Both of ourpractices, Ceneberg and Sunbury have Facebook pages.
We'd love you for all of youto follow alot. Anthony denel Care,
I'm so glad we finally got youin studio. What a pleasure it
was, My gosh, what agood speaker. Do you do motivational speaking?
You should? You should? Ilike you know, I'm always interacting
(12:33):
with people and now the same thingyou guys do all day, so this
is very easy for me. Thisis amazing. I did see on your
on one of your Facebook posts becauseI was going through you. Yeah,
I saw you had an I heeartJesus heat. Oh that's hilarious. My
daughter has the exact same heat shedoes. And I believe in the power
prayer. I believe that my mom'sstill here today because in part of the
power of prayer. Yeah, soI hear what you're saying, and I
(12:54):
totally appreciated. Prayer is very powerful. Yes it is. I have tested
it and I have seen the result, and no one can convince me otherwise.
That's why the parents are so powerful, because there's belief behind the prayer.
Doctor day are great to have youin today. This is what matters
on six ten WTVN
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Intentionally Disturbing
Join me on this podcast as I navigate the murky waters of human behavior, current events, and personal anecdotes through in-depth interviews with incredible people—all served with a generous helping of sarcasm and satire. After years as a forensic and clinical psychologist, I offer a unique interview style and a low tolerance for bullshit, quickly steering conversations toward depth and darkness. I honor the seriousness while also appreciating wit. I’m your guide through the twisted labyrinth of the human psyche, armed with dark humor and biting wit.