December 14, 2025 • 21 mins
Mindy and Mikaela discuss hot topics like former Michigan coach Sherrone Moore facing criminal charges and why with callers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Joe Schmitz is still in studio as he can
say as he says goodbye, Mikayla, and we're trying to
tell him about we're promoting our annual Christmas cookie eating contest.
Joe said, Oh, I can find someone to help, you.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Know, and now he thinks you mean, Joe, I think
you could do it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You'll win Rooster's boughs.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Joe, Oh, he doesn't like cookies.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
But yeah, but it's that competitive nature.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You've got that drive to compete and win at anything
you do.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So think about it.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Recruit some some of those guys over your office. They
can do it. That's Christmas is right around the corner.
I mean, that's next weekend, bye, Joe, that's next weekend.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It is.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Next week.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And yeah, it seems like it's been such a crazy, busy,
hectic week, but you know what, it always gets that
way when it gets down to those final weeks and
days of Christmas. I had to miss the first hour
of raw today because I had to go to the
funeral home. You remember me talking about Artie Taylor, the
longtime coached at Wellington for like eleven years, and before that, no,
he coached at Ohio Dominican.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
He was just at Wittenberg.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, he has been fighting cancer for it would have
been a year next month it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Was he went to but I guess I thought that
he was doing okay.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Well, he was really in the fight. I mean, that's
what he lived by is we are fighting. We are fighting,
and we are fighting. But you know, Randy and I
went to the funeral home. The calling out started it too,
and I met Artie and his awesome wife Christine through
Randy because they coached against each other. But when you
consistently coach against one another through years, you become friends.
(01:36):
And that's how we started. Our friendship was actually on
the other side of a basketball court, and you look
at a coach and you look at what a role
model a coach can be because you're a mentor to
so many kids, whether it is at the high school
level or he also coached you know, some in college
as well.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And when we were.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Walking out of the funeral home, just so many people,
lines and lines of people. It's going to be like
that all day for them and then tomorrow for the service.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I have a freezing cold day standing in line to
see the man inside.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It was inside so far, but You're right, it probably
is going to get so busy that it will rind
around outside as well.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But what a.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Wonderful human being and role model. And that's really what
coaches should be like. And then you look at this
case in Michigan and it makes you sick because not
all coaches are like Ardie Taylor. And you think of
what this guy did. He on top of the world.
Mikayla had one of the best, most premier coaching jobs
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in all of college football, and it wasn't enough for him.
Had a wife, three daughters, and they weren't enough for him.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
This was the.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Story that just exploded all over media and social media
this week, and I'm sure you've seen so many different
stories from it and sideline stories about it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So many had so many conversations about it because it's
absolutely wild. I am now at a point where I'm thinking,
what do we not know? So there's a lot of
scandalous things that have come out from it, but what
was bubbling up There are reports that he'd been acting
strange for a few weeks. So I just think there's
(03:20):
so much more to the story, and we know the
most salacious parts right now.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So this is what we're going to talk about today
for the first couple segments, because you know what, it's
really affected a lot of people because of how it
all came to be. And you look at somebody who
was on top of the world and in an instant,
in an instant, everything was taken away. I say taken away,
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but he did it to himself. This is going to
be an open conversation with all of you listening. We
want your thoughts, we want your opinions. Time and time again,
I've seen people comment on, oh, I just feel so
bad for the wife and those kids. I agree with you,
that should be.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
First and foremost.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
How embarrassing, you know, you see these different images and
then you're you're seeing that he also was texting this
model of what is it that fan?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What is it we were talking about?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Fan?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh, I don't know what the name of it. Only
only fans.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I have seen. I have not clipped on that, but
I saw.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Only fans worked.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I really don't understand how that Boots was trying to
enlighten me and explain what only fans is. Apparently people
can be a model for this company, OnlyFans and send
out pictures and what.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Kind of model do you want to be? That's what
Boots tell you that, like, are you a hand model?
Are you a foot model? Are you something else model?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
One of his buddies works for OnlyFans, And what is
buddy showing off some some not?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, so he's showing off a part that is a
specific model, part intended. His wife's okay, a part of
your model.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And he makes thousands and thousands of dollars and his
wife's okay with that? Would you be okay with Marcus
sending images of him?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know when I'm talking, I know what you're.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
No people if you met thousands and thousands of dollars
off of these desperate.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
People do desperate things, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I think it's a crazy world that we need.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's just gosh, man, what is wrong?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Only fans has been around for a while, and people
do they make thousands and thousands of.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Dollars showing images to themselves, like people can buy themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So people who have like a fetish can go on
to only fans. My understanding is, and if you like feet,
their feet pictures to be had.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
This is what I have to buy them.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yet there's this is there a subscription model? I wish
I knew more. I think you should have Cami or
Kyle and explain.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
This to you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Cammi or Kai could explain.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
This, I think, because they're more at that level, at
that age level.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I know a little bit about it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, what do you know about it?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I know it's a subscription based you can subscribe to
certain to the individuals, not like one account.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, apparently, after Sharon Moore was released from jail.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You know you think, I bet if.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He looked back a couple months ago and someone said
you're going to be in jail in a couple months,
you'd be like, Nah, no way, not me. Because when
you're on top of the world, you don't expect things
like that. You don't expect your rule to fall out
below you, even though it was self inflicted. But apparently,
and here's the deal to you really don't know what's
true and what's not true. When you see reports on
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especially social media, you really do have to look up
sources because so much is out there and you don't
know what's true and what's not true. But it was
reported that when he left jail, the first text he
made was to one of these family.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Fan only what is its only fans. I'm glad I
don't know, only fans.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Which is his friend? I guess is it a girl
or a guy?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
You know it's a girl. I don't know if they
became friends.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It was it was a girl who he treated to
games at Michigan And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
But you know what, he's married. Does marriage not matter anymore?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I think it's an open relationship.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But how can we haven't heard anything about the wife.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
We've heard that. I will say that that is odd.
We haven't heard anything about the wife except and I
can't again this is I saw this as I was
prepping for today. There is something about a nine to
one to one call from the wife through a news source.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, I saw that, so.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is that's the only thing we've heard about the wife though, right?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think the wife actually was the one to tell
police where he was after going to his girlfriend's home
and saying, I'm going to kill myself and it's going
to be in front of you and I'm going to
take you down with me.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Then apparently left and went to a church.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But because you can find your spouse's location like I
have with my family on life three sixty. I don't
know what was used, but she knew the location of
where he was at this church and was able to tell.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Police, Yeah, that's what you saw.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So the Detroit News reported that she made a nine
to one one call following his firing earlier in the week.
She said that he was quote suicidal after quote losing
his job. Audio is disturbing. I haven't heard of it.
And then he put a knife to his throat and
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ran out at the location right, and then he told
the woman, my blood is on your hands. You ruined
my life.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's not the wife, that's that's the girl friend. So
he was that way with the wife and promoted under him.
This girl was working for the program when Sharon took over,
he promoted her.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know. And I think some people are like, ah,
it happens all the time. This just happened.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I don't accept that. I don't accept that because I
don't want to accept that. Am I blind to the world. No, Yeah,
it does happen, but it doesn't make it right.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You have and I think I share this with you.
We have a very optimistic and expectant worldview that people
will do the right thing and want to be good
people and are working towards their best selves. Like that's
how I live, and I actually think that's how you live.
I think we have that in common. I agree, you agree,
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And when we see something like this, it just totally
goes against working towards your best self. It's the opposite.
So I think you and I and other people who
are like us are just really disturbed by it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Six one four eight, two, one nine eight eight six
six one four eight two one nine eight eighty six.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
This whole Michigan.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Story of this Michigan head coach, and now everyone's wondering
who the new head coach is going to be. Do
you think the university knew about this for a while
and shoved it under the rug? Or do you think
every thing just came out and came to light here
this last week or two? And what do you really
think of it? Do you think more people do this?
(10:08):
People who are in a power position? He is, you're
a head coach of a program like that. That's a
power position. And your subordinate, who was your administrative assistant,
is who you're choosing to sleep with. Does it happen
more than you think? What do you guys think? Six
one four eight two one nine eight eighty six. The
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other question we want to ask is if your friend
was being cheated on, would you tell.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Them if you knew a question, if you saw their
husband or their wife with somebody else, would you tell
your friend that this was going on? So those are
our questions for you, and we're actually we're going to
have a PI come in and talk to us at
four thirty five about what.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
He sees because he deals with this all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh, the people hire him to say, Hey, I think
my wife or I think my husband is cheating. Can
you find out for sure? Your job is based on
finding people cheating? Am I just that naive that I mean? Listen,
don't get me wrong. I know what happens. I absolutely
know what happens. But there's also a part of me
that wants to believe.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That it doesn't have to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That you can be a good human and you can
be happily married and a family man and not sleep
with your administrative assistant.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Do you think that he was under This is not
an excuse for him. I'm just thinking out loud. Do
you think he was under an immense amount of pressure
because he's I've had some people say to me, what
if he was the fall guy for the situation that
happened to season or two ago? Was that a season ago?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You mean, what if he knew more?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What if there's more involvement there?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But what did he have to cheat?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm just saying that he means under pressure, fired for
call because of having an inappropriate relationship sexual relationship with
the staffer.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, I don't know where you can combine the two.
Is the under pressure because of what happened, He still
made the choice. He still made the choice and she
did too.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Screw around and.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
She did too. And I hope people remember that because too,
you know, he told her blood was on her hands
because they probably had a pack not to talk about this.
As a matter of fact, The Associated Press is reporting
today that athletic director Ward Manual told the school's board
during the season that he had asked more in the
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woman if they were in a relationship. Both denied it
at the time. Both denied it, according to people familiar
with the situation, That's what they told the Associated Press.
They said Manuel told the board of trustees that he
had received reviewed hundreds of text messages and emails between
more and the woman on their school issued cell phones
and computers and did not discover anything inappropriate. Interesting, right
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you think that's crept over it?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They shove it or could they have or did they
shove it under the rug for a while until it
got so bad that I had heard or We're going
to get into more of this issue, and we really
do want to take your phone calls. What do you
think of it all? It just makes me you got.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
To be talking about it because everybody is.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
About for the wife and the three little girls, I know,
think of what they think of their daddy or what
they grow up and they're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Think of their daddy and right you buffer them now.
But there's so much to talk about with this. We
know you guys are talking about again six one four, eight, two,
one nine, eight eighty six. We are going to do
good news this hour as well. In the next hour
all Things Christmas. Valley Dale will be joining us. We'll
be giving away some more tickets.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, because the big Christmas dance is coming up this Friday.
And they are such a hoot to have in studio.
They love Londa and Rick.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It's like the joy of life that comes in with them.
You know what I mean, it really truly is so
we're just going to.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Suck that life out of you.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
For the.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Well And yeah, I mean these are keep it real
because it is what matters, you know, and these things
we have to talk about because they're happening and it's
what the rest of the country is talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So more to come. This is what matters, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's so good to hear Christmas songs. They're so fun
and then as soon as Christmas.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Is over, it's like bag gone. They're gone like that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You hear them for like maybe a month or two
leading up there, then boom and then boom they're gone,
kind of like Michigan's football coach boom and he's.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Gone, very very sudden firing of Sharon Moore.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But do you think he'll get money? Do you think
he'll get paid?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't know enough about his clause. I haven't read
anything about his contract because, like I was telling you,
it's like the world moved on and now we're talking
about who can take this coaching job, which I think
is odd to move on that quickly, but that's what
we do.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So we've got Pete on the line.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Pete, do you want to comment on this situation with
Michigan's head coach and cheating on his wife and three
daughters in this whole big mess. What a horrible situation
for so many people involved. Really, Pete, what are your comments?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Well, yes, I agree, it's horrible. Feel terrible for the
wife and the kids. I think we have a situation
basically where a man who is addicted to sex and
only fans and that kind of thing. Unfortunately, you know,
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he thought that he could get away. You know, you
have to remember he was part of that Michigan cheating scandal.
When they first confronted him about the fifty two texts
that he sent to the to the Michigan or to
Connor Stallions, who was the mastermind behind the cheating scandal.
He at first he he said that he deleted those
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texts to get more storage space on his phone. Then
he came clean and said that it was because it
is related to the scandal. So he already you know, uh,
you know, had already. I mean, he did get punished
by having to miss two games, rightfully, so, but anyway,
what I'm trying to say is that you know, he
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he abused his position of power. He obviously he got
this other, this person to have sex with him, and
you know, and he gave her a raise from fifty
thousand to ninety. Yes, and so you know, it's it's
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just like I said, it's somebody who unfortunately has a
sexual addiction, which obviously he's not the only man who's
ever had that problem, right, Pete, let me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Read you something, because this was somebody's point of view
on the whole situation. And you're a guy, and I
want your opinion as well as everybody else listening. In Mikayla,
you two, this was put out there by a guy
named TJ.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Mo and he put choosing a.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Young attractive woman as your executive assistant is a mistake.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's unwise.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sharon Moore has a wife, three kids, his dream job,
and claims faith in Jesus. He is not unuclear or
uniquely undisciplined. Many men struggle with lust. He put himself
in a compromising position. As a man, you have an
obligation to protect yourself and your family. The best way
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is to never place yourself in a situation where.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You might make this mistake. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
And he thinks that many men would do this in
a similar situation, that it's just something that men deal with,
is lust?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You agree with that, I'm Pete, I'm it'd be interesting
to know. I don't know if I agree or disagree
with it. And I'm going to say this because I
think Pete tapped into something that you and I hadn't
thought about. Pete, when you talk about sex addiction, we
weren't thinking about sex addiction. And so three to ten
percent of the general US population has hyper sexuality, and
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a lot of them have bipolar disorder and other co
occurring anxiety disorder. So Pete, I'm glad you brought it
up because I had not. I hadn't thought of that,
and so it could be this mindy or it could
be a medical situation like chemical imbalances. It's possible.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But I do think, Pete, that you can't just blame
him because it always does take two.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And she's at fault too.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
She knew what she was getting into, she accepted the job,
she accepted the raise, she knew he was married and
was a dad of three girls.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
She's just as much at fault.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yes, you're exactly right about that. You know, it's it's
just it's just terrible. I think that. I think I
read somewhere that he had been doing this OnlyFans thing
for like at least three or four years, so, you know,
and again he had gotten away with that for a while.
He got away the whole cheating scandal that he got
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got away with for a while. I mean, he was
basically just you know, you know, living in his in
his mind, just a great life where he could get
away make millions of dollars, be the head football coach
of a dream team and uh, I mean a huge program.
And then also you know, have sex with who knows
(19:19):
how many women. Uh, but we certainly know of this
other one outside of his marriage. Another thing, I read
that her dad is an NFL scout.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know, I did hear that.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, I'm not putting too much
stock into that, but yeah, exactly. You know, it's one
of those things where, you know, just people who are
in positions of power, Uh, definitely, when they think that
they can get away with things like he obviously thought
that he could, and he did get away with things
for a while. You know, you know, he had no
self control, He didn't know when to stop.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, Pete, I'm glad you called because I appreciate this
other perspective. Because women, more men than women, suffer from
sex addiction. It's not the first thing, mindy, that you
and I would jump to. So it's it's another lens
and other perspective doesn't.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Make it right.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But yeah, I just can't still make excuse for it.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It is no, no, no, I'm not making an excuse for
it at all. I mean, you know, sex addiction or not,
it's it's the wrong thing to do. You can still
you know, he definitely, he definitely should have said no,
I'm not not you know, I guess I'm I might
be attracted to beautiful women, but I'm still going to
you know, be faithful to my wife and take and
honor the vow that I took. And so there are
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no excuses for his behavior. And you know, unfortunately, he's
not the only man who's been an incredible I shouldn't
say incredible that in a big position of power. I
mean you you know, you had President Kennedy, President Clinton.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Let's get you know, thirteen files. I mean, anyone like that,
this great cultural moment of sex and all these things.
You're right, Pete, and he's not the first, and you.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Know what, it won't be the last, be the last.
But we're glad you called.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But we want you to stay listening, Pete and everybody
else who's tuned in right now, because we are going
to talk to a private investigator who investigates cases in
Ohio and also in Kentucky, and it's his job to
find out if spouses or people are cheating. So a
husband or a wife would hire this man, Chad Moran,
to say, hey, can you find out for me? I
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have a feeling my spouse is cheating. So he deals
with this every day. It's part of his job. And
I think you might be surprised at who cheats more
men or women. Really, you might be surprised.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
The conversation is coming up. This is what matters on
six' ten AT. Wtv it
So Joe Schmitz is still in studio as he can
say as he says goodbye, Mikayla, and we're trying to
tell him about we're promoting our annual Christmas cookie eating contest.
Joe said, Oh, I can find someone to help, you.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Know, and now he thinks you mean, Joe, I think
you could do it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You'll win Rooster's boughs.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Joe, Oh, he doesn't like cookies.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
But yeah, but it's that competitive nature.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You've got that drive to compete and win at anything
you do.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So think about it.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Recruit some some of those guys over your office. They
can do it. That's Christmas is right around the corner.
I mean, that's next weekend, bye, Joe, that's next weekend.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It is.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Next week.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And yeah, it seems like it's been such a crazy, busy,
hectic week, but you know what, it always gets that
way when it gets down to those final weeks and
days of Christmas. I had to miss the first hour
of raw today because I had to go to the
funeral home. You remember me talking about Artie Taylor, the
longtime coached at Wellington for like eleven years, and before that, no,
he coached at Ohio Dominican.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
He was just at Wittenberg.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, he has been fighting cancer for it would have
been a year next month it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Was he went to but I guess I thought that
he was doing okay.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Well, he was really in the fight. I mean, that's
what he lived by is we are fighting. We are fighting,
and we are fighting. But you know, Randy and I
went to the funeral home. The calling out started it too,
and I met Artie and his awesome wife Christine through
Randy because they coached against each other. But when you
consistently coach against one another through years, you become friends.
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And that's how we started. Our friendship was actually on
the other side of a basketball court, and you look
at a coach and you look at what a role
model a coach can be because you're a mentor to
so many kids, whether it is at the high school
level or he also coached you know, some in college
as well.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And when we were.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Walking out of the funeral home, just so many people,
lines and lines of people. It's going to be like
that all day for them and then tomorrow for the service.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I have a freezing cold day standing in line to
see the man inside.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It was inside so far, but You're right, it probably
is going to get so busy that it will rind
around outside as well.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But what a.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Wonderful human being and role model. And that's really what
coaches should be like. And then you look at this
case in Michigan and it makes you sick because not
all coaches are like Ardie Taylor. And you think of
what this guy did. He on top of the world.
Mikayla had one of the best, most premier coaching jobs
(02:37):
in all of college football, and it wasn't enough for him.
Had a wife, three daughters, and they weren't enough for him.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
This was the.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Story that just exploded all over media and social media
this week, and I'm sure you've seen so many different
stories from it and sideline stories about it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So many had so many conversations about it because it's
absolutely wild. I am now at a point where I'm thinking,
what do we not know? So there's a lot of
scandalous things that have come out from it, but what
was bubbling up There are reports that he'd been acting
strange for a few weeks. So I just think there's
(03:20):
so much more to the story, and we know the
most salacious parts right now.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So this is what we're going to talk about today
for the first couple segments, because you know what, it's
really affected a lot of people because of how it
all came to be. And you look at somebody who
was on top of the world and in an instant,
in an instant, everything was taken away. I say taken away,
(03:46):
but he did it to himself. This is going to
be an open conversation with all of you listening. We
want your thoughts, we want your opinions. Time and time again,
I've seen people comment on, oh, I just feel so
bad for the wife and those kids. I agree with you,
that should be.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
First and foremost.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
How embarrassing, you know, you see these different images and
then you're you're seeing that he also was texting this
model of what is it that fan?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What is it we were talking about?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Fan?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh, I don't know what the name of it. Only
only fans.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I have seen. I have not clipped on that, but
I saw.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Only fans worked.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I really don't understand how that Boots was trying to
enlighten me and explain what only fans is. Apparently people
can be a model for this company, OnlyFans and send
out pictures and what.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Kind of model do you want to be? That's what
Boots tell you that, like, are you a hand model?
Are you a foot model? Are you something else model?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
One of his buddies works for OnlyFans, And what is
buddy showing off some some not?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, so he's showing off a part that is a
specific model, part intended. His wife's okay, a part of
your model.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And he makes thousands and thousands of dollars and his
wife's okay with that? Would you be okay with Marcus
sending images of him?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know when I'm talking, I know what you're.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
No people if you met thousands and thousands of dollars
off of these desperate.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
People do desperate things, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I think it's a crazy world that we need.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's just gosh, man, what is wrong?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Only fans has been around for a while, and people
do they make thousands and thousands of.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Dollars showing images to themselves, like people can buy themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So people who have like a fetish can go on
to only fans. My understanding is, and if you like feet,
their feet pictures to be had.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
This is what I have to buy them.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yet there's this is there a subscription model? I wish
I knew more. I think you should have Cami or
Kyle and explain.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
This to you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Cammi or Kai could explain.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
This, I think, because they're more at that level, at
that age level.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I know a little bit about it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, what do you know about it?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I know it's a subscription based you can subscribe to
certain to the individuals, not like one account.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, apparently, after Sharon Moore was released from jail.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You know you think, I bet if.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He looked back a couple months ago and someone said
you're going to be in jail in a couple months,
you'd be like, Nah, no way, not me. Because when
you're on top of the world, you don't expect things
like that. You don't expect your rule to fall out
below you, even though it was self inflicted. But apparently,
and here's the deal to you really don't know what's
true and what's not true. When you see reports on
(06:38):
especially social media, you really do have to look up
sources because so much is out there and you don't
know what's true and what's not true. But it was
reported that when he left jail, the first text he
made was to one of these family.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Fan only what is its only fans. I'm glad I
don't know, only fans.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Which is his friend? I guess is it a girl
or a guy?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
You know it's a girl. I don't know if they
became friends.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It was it was a girl who he treated to
games at Michigan And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
But you know what, he's married. Does marriage not matter anymore?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I think it's an open relationship.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But how can we haven't heard anything about the wife.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
We've heard that. I will say that that is odd.
We haven't heard anything about the wife except and I
can't again this is I saw this as I was
prepping for today. There is something about a nine to
one to one call from the wife through a news source.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, I saw that, so.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is that's the only thing we've heard about the wife though, right?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think the wife actually was the one to tell
police where he was after going to his girlfriend's home
and saying, I'm going to kill myself and it's going
to be in front of you and I'm going to
take you down with me.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Then apparently left and went to a church.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But because you can find your spouse's location like I
have with my family on life three sixty. I don't
know what was used, but she knew the location of
where he was at this church and was able to tell.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Police, Yeah, that's what you saw.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So the Detroit News reported that she made a nine
to one one call following his firing earlier in the week.
She said that he was quote suicidal after quote losing
his job. Audio is disturbing. I haven't heard of it.
And then he put a knife to his throat and
(08:34):
ran out at the location right, and then he told
the woman, my blood is on your hands. You ruined
my life.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's not the wife, that's that's the girl friend. So
he was that way with the wife and promoted under him.
This girl was working for the program when Sharon took over,
he promoted her.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know. And I think some people are like, ah,
it happens all the time. This just happened.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I don't accept that. I don't accept that because I
don't want to accept that. Am I blind to the world. No, Yeah,
it does happen, but it doesn't make it right.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You have and I think I share this with you.
We have a very optimistic and expectant worldview that people
will do the right thing and want to be good
people and are working towards their best selves. Like that's
how I live, and I actually think that's how you live.
I think we have that in common. I agree, you agree,
(09:29):
And when we see something like this, it just totally
goes against working towards your best self. It's the opposite.
So I think you and I and other people who
are like us are just really disturbed by it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Six one four eight, two, one nine eight eight six
six one four eight two one nine eight eighty six.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
This whole Michigan.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Story of this Michigan head coach, and now everyone's wondering
who the new head coach is going to be. Do
you think the university knew about this for a while
and shoved it under the rug? Or do you think
every thing just came out and came to light here
this last week or two? And what do you really
think of it? Do you think more people do this?
(10:08):
People who are in a power position? He is, you're
a head coach of a program like that. That's a
power position. And your subordinate, who was your administrative assistant,
is who you're choosing to sleep with. Does it happen
more than you think? What do you guys think? Six
one four eight two one nine eight eighty six. The
(10:28):
other question we want to ask is if your friend
was being cheated on, would you tell.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Them if you knew a question, if you saw their
husband or their wife with somebody else, would you tell
your friend that this was going on? So those are
our questions for you, and we're actually we're going to
have a PI come in and talk to us at
four thirty five about what.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
He sees because he deals with this all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh, the people hire him to say, Hey, I think
my wife or I think my husband is cheating. Can
you find out for sure? Your job is based on
finding people cheating? Am I just that naive that I mean? Listen,
don't get me wrong. I know what happens. I absolutely
know what happens. But there's also a part of me
that wants to believe.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That it doesn't have to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That you can be a good human and you can
be happily married and a family man and not sleep
with your administrative assistant.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Do you think that he was under This is not
an excuse for him. I'm just thinking out loud. Do
you think he was under an immense amount of pressure
because he's I've had some people say to me, what
if he was the fall guy for the situation that
happened to season or two ago? Was that a season ago?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You mean, what if he knew more?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What if there's more involvement there?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But what did he have to cheat?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm just saying that he means under pressure, fired for
call because of having an inappropriate relationship sexual relationship with
the staffer.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, I don't know where you can combine the two.
Is the under pressure because of what happened, He still
made the choice. He still made the choice and she
did too.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Screw around and.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
She did too. And I hope people remember that because too,
you know, he told her blood was on her hands
because they probably had a pack not to talk about this.
As a matter of fact, The Associated Press is reporting
today that athletic director Ward Manual told the school's board
during the season that he had asked more in the
(12:37):
woman if they were in a relationship. Both denied it
at the time. Both denied it, according to people familiar
with the situation, That's what they told the Associated Press.
They said Manuel told the board of trustees that he
had received reviewed hundreds of text messages and emails between
more and the woman on their school issued cell phones
and computers and did not discover anything inappropriate. Interesting, right
(13:03):
you think that's crept over it?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They shove it or could they have or did they
shove it under the rug for a while until it
got so bad that I had heard or We're going
to get into more of this issue, and we really
do want to take your phone calls. What do you
think of it all? It just makes me you got.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
To be talking about it because everybody is.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
About for the wife and the three little girls, I know,
think of what they think of their daddy or what
they grow up and they're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Think of their daddy and right you buffer them now.
But there's so much to talk about with this. We
know you guys are talking about again six one four, eight, two,
one nine, eight eighty six. We are going to do
good news this hour as well. In the next hour
all Things Christmas. Valley Dale will be joining us. We'll
be giving away some more tickets.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, because the big Christmas dance is coming up this Friday.
And they are such a hoot to have in studio.
They love Londa and Rick.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It's like the joy of life that comes in with them.
You know what I mean, it really truly is so
we're just going to.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Suck that life out of you.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
For the.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Well And yeah, I mean these are keep it real
because it is what matters, you know, and these things
we have to talk about because they're happening and it's
what the rest of the country is talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So more to come. This is what matters, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's so good to hear Christmas songs. They're so fun
and then as soon as Christmas.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Is over, it's like bag gone. They're gone like that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You hear them for like maybe a month or two
leading up there, then boom and then boom they're gone,
kind of like Michigan's football coach boom and he's.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Gone, very very sudden firing of Sharon Moore.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But do you think he'll get money? Do you think
he'll get paid?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't know enough about his clause. I haven't read
anything about his contract because, like I was telling you,
it's like the world moved on and now we're talking
about who can take this coaching job, which I think
is odd to move on that quickly, but that's what
we do.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So we've got Pete on the line.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Pete, do you want to comment on this situation with
Michigan's head coach and cheating on his wife and three
daughters in this whole big mess. What a horrible situation
for so many people involved. Really, Pete, what are your comments?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Well, yes, I agree, it's horrible. Feel terrible for the
wife and the kids. I think we have a situation
basically where a man who is addicted to sex and
only fans and that kind of thing. Unfortunately, you know,
(15:28):
he thought that he could get away. You know, you
have to remember he was part of that Michigan cheating scandal.
When they first confronted him about the fifty two texts
that he sent to the to the Michigan or to
Connor Stallions, who was the mastermind behind the cheating scandal.
He at first he he said that he deleted those
(15:49):
texts to get more storage space on his phone. Then
he came clean and said that it was because it
is related to the scandal. So he already you know, uh,
you know, had already. I mean, he did get punished
by having to miss two games, rightfully, so, but anyway,
what I'm trying to say is that you know, he
(16:11):
he abused his position of power. He obviously he got
this other, this person to have sex with him, and
you know, and he gave her a raise from fifty
thousand to ninety. Yes, and so you know, it's it's
(16:31):
just like I said, it's somebody who unfortunately has a
sexual addiction, which obviously he's not the only man who's
ever had that problem, right, Pete, let me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Read you something, because this was somebody's point of view
on the whole situation. And you're a guy, and I
want your opinion as well as everybody else listening. In Mikayla,
you two, this was put out there by a guy
named TJ.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Mo and he put choosing a.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Young attractive woman as your executive assistant is a mistake.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's unwise.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sharon Moore has a wife, three kids, his dream job,
and claims faith in Jesus. He is not unuclear or
uniquely undisciplined. Many men struggle with lust. He put himself
in a compromising position. As a man, you have an
obligation to protect yourself and your family. The best way
(17:21):
is to never place yourself in a situation where.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You might make this mistake. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
And he thinks that many men would do this in
a similar situation, that it's just something that men deal with,
is lust?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You agree with that, I'm Pete, I'm it'd be interesting
to know. I don't know if I agree or disagree
with it. And I'm going to say this because I
think Pete tapped into something that you and I hadn't
thought about. Pete, when you talk about sex addiction, we
weren't thinking about sex addiction. And so three to ten
percent of the general US population has hyper sexuality, and
(17:59):
a lot of them have bipolar disorder and other co
occurring anxiety disorder. So Pete, I'm glad you brought it
up because I had not. I hadn't thought of that,
and so it could be this mindy or it could
be a medical situation like chemical imbalances. It's possible.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But I do think, Pete, that you can't just blame
him because it always does take two.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And she's at fault too.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
She knew what she was getting into, she accepted the job,
she accepted the raise, she knew he was married and
was a dad of three girls.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
She's just as much at fault.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yes, you're exactly right about that. You know, it's it's
just it's just terrible. I think that. I think I
read somewhere that he had been doing this OnlyFans thing
for like at least three or four years, so, you know,
and again he had gotten away with that for a while.
He got away the whole cheating scandal that he got
(18:56):
got away with for a while. I mean, he was
basically just you know, you know, living in his in
his mind, just a great life where he could get
away make millions of dollars, be the head football coach
of a dream team and uh, I mean a huge program.
And then also you know, have sex with who knows
(19:19):
how many women. Uh, but we certainly know of this
other one outside of his marriage. Another thing, I read
that her dad is an NFL scout.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know, I did hear that.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, I'm not putting too much
stock into that, but yeah, exactly. You know, it's one
of those things where, you know, just people who are
in positions of power, Uh, definitely, when they think that
they can get away with things like he obviously thought
that he could, and he did get away with things
for a while. You know, you know, he had no
self control, He didn't know when to stop.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, Pete, I'm glad you called because I appreciate this
other perspective. Because women, more men than women, suffer from
sex addiction. It's not the first thing, mindy, that you
and I would jump to. So it's it's another lens
and other perspective doesn't.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Make it right.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But yeah, I just can't still make excuse for it.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It is no, no, no, I'm not making an excuse for
it at all. I mean, you know, sex addiction or not,
it's it's the wrong thing to do. You can still
you know, he definitely, he definitely should have said no,
I'm not not you know, I guess I'm I might
be attracted to beautiful women, but I'm still going to
you know, be faithful to my wife and take and
honor the vow that I took. And so there are
(20:34):
no excuses for his behavior. And you know, unfortunately, he's
not the only man who's been an incredible I shouldn't
say incredible that in a big position of power. I
mean you you know, you had President Kennedy, President Clinton.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Let's get you know, thirteen files. I mean, anyone like that,
this great cultural moment of sex and all these things.
You're right, Pete, and he's not the first, and you.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Know what, it won't be the last, be the last.
But we're glad you called.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But we want you to stay listening, Pete and everybody
else who's tuned in right now, because we are going
to talk to a private investigator who investigates cases in
Ohio and also in Kentucky, and it's his job to
find out if spouses or people are cheating. So a
husband or a wife would hire this man, Chad Moran,
to say, hey, can you find out for me? I
(21:24):
have a feeling my spouse is cheating. So he deals
with this every day. It's part of his job. And
I think you might be surprised at who cheats more
men or women. Really, you might be surprised.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
The conversation is coming up. This is what matters on
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