December 30, 2025 • 34 mins
Kat discusses her techniques with Mikaela and listeners for going in to the new year!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Missed you this hour.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's gonna blow your mind, gonna change up your twenty
twenty six. Cat Artemis mindset coach, owner and creator of
Directed Underscore thoughts on Instagram plus many other things, including
a journal she wrote a book that she wrote is
in with us. It has been a pleasure to have
you in. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
for you here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Are you having a good time? Is it easier than
you thought?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes? I mean I've never done anything like this, but
this is a blast. I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And of course a mindset coach would say yes to
do something she's never done before because you got to
try it out.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Absolutely this it was this or a ninety minute pilates class.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh, I'm so glad you came here.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Girl. I'm so glad you came here.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Pilates can wait.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's right, six am tomorrow, six am tomorrow. So first
of all, I want to just say congratulations to our winner,
who we have on the line for our New Year's
Eve tickets to the incredible valley Dale show. Chris Burton
is on with us, and I think she's on with
our husband, Chris are you there?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
He walked away, but I'm still here and we're very
excited about winning the tickets. We just started taking ballroom
dancing lessons in Lesterville at Freda Staire, so we're happy.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
To go and try to hone our skills dancing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh, I think you were just going to have a blast.
Have you been to the Valley Deal before by any chance?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's been years, many years, so we're looking forward to
going back.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I mean and this New Year's Eve party sounds
just incredible, big band music where you can practice your moves.
Also a djay, a really great dinner, and it sounds
like an amazing opportunity on New Year's Eve. Yes, it does.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Thank you so much for the tickets. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
What were you gonna say, Kat, I was just going
to say, how long?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
How long have you been taking these lessons?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Three months?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh, that's perfect.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So you've got you've got some moves, you've got your
ready and I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Hey, I we believe in you, and I think it's
awesome that your husband wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So I will make sure to get you linked up
with their owner on their management group.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But just Chris, have a great time.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Tell your husband we're so glad that you won, and
just congratulations and happy New Year.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, happy New Year, Thank you so much. Happy I
tank you both. Thank you. Take care.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh my gosh, we've done some really great giveaways today.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And what we're going to give you right now during
the five o'clock hour is kind of the giveaway in
and of itself, because we are going to help your
brain better move into twenty twenty six. So we introduce
Kat at the top of the four o'clock hour. But Kat,
I want to reintroduce you again for those who are
just joining us for the five o'clock hour, along with
(02:40):
those who might have also followed along. You have spent
the last eighteen years working on what I would call
techniques maybe even a system of how to change our mindset.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And can you tell folks how this all started.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Where you were a little bit about your background prior
to doing this work.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I started this work, as you said, about eighteen years ago,
and I did not at any point in time eighteen
years ago think that I would be an author, that
I would have this Instagram following. I mean, I was
just trying to get my head above water eighteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So what were you going through at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, I had been really suffering for since I was
a teenager, all the way through my twenties and through
most of my thirties with anxiety, deep anxiety and depression.
We're talking, having difficulty getting out of bed. We're talking,
you know, smiling on the outside while feeling really awful
on the inside.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I had so much I.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Needed to work through, and I tried so many things.
I tried lots of different medications, I tried lots of therapies.
Not that those things don't work, they do. But for me,
I had to learn how to think thoughts that really
supported me because my thought hated me. My thoughts told
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me how unsuccessful I would be, how ugly I would be,
how poor I would be, how I wasn't good enough.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And so no matter what I did.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I couldnt, you know, no matter who I went to
to get help, those autopilot thoughts that were running day
in and day out. That was like my software or
my hardware, you know, And I had to reprogram that myself.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And what happened was one day I woke up.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I remember this so clearly, and I remember laying in
bed and I just thought, like, I am so tired
of smiling to the outside world and not meaning it
on the inside. So on the inside, I'm crying at
night when my family's sleeping, I'm crying.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But you know what, when I.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Go to school and get those kids, I'm smiling and
waving at the parents, Or when I'm at work, I've
got a positive attitude on. But inside I was really struggling,
and I just thought, like, how how long am I
going to do this?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Do I do this for the rest of my life?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So you were a mom at the time, yeah, married yeap?
And teaching, yes? Or what were you doing with kids?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Tell me just when I would to go to pick.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Me pick your kids up? Yeah? Were you working in corporate?
Were you working somewhere else?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I was not yet in corporate. I had a thriving
real estate business. I used to specialize in corporate relocation.
I did that until the market crashed, got it, yeap?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So around two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
Is that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's when I lost it all?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I lost it all that I was I was careening
fast to my fortieth decade and I lost my business.
It took me like literally overnight, it took me ten
years to build. I lost everything that I built, and
I was in the top ten percent in sales in
North America. Like I was crushing it. And then suddenly,
like you know, we were both self employed and finances.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
When it was a hard time.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It was it was so hard and I had to
start completely over in corporate America at forty at the
bottom of the ladder. That's probably a whole other I mean,
that's kind of a divers story, but it goes along
with my mindset stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So with it, you made a decision around this time
that you did you know where this was going to head?
I mean, now that you're an author and have these
you know, thirty thousand followers on Instagram directed underscore thoughts
is where you can find her, guys, I mean, like,
did you know what you were going to do when
you were at the very, very bottom.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I was literally trying to survive at that point, Like
I just wanted to walk out of my house and
feel happy for the day. I wanted to look at
someone and not compare myself. I wanted to find joy
and things instead of negativity. I wanted to not feel jaded.
I wanted to feel that there there was love and
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joy and it wasn't just my negative mind making everything
hard for me. And that's so I made this decision
that I was just going to only focus on spiritual,
my own spirituality, law of attraction and mindset, and that's it.
(07:16):
And that was right around like not long after The
Secret came out, that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Movie, the Secret movie in the book, yeah, in the book.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And then I started reading these other books called Abraham Hicks.
And at first I didn't love them because I felt
like I had created all my own pain and that
made me feel really bad. But then once I got
through those feelings, I started to realize, but wait, like
if I know that, then I can also start to
change how I think and maybe something different will happen
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for me. And sure enough, when I started to add
some gratitude into my life and I started to pay
attention to what I appreciated and pay attention to what
I loved, those things started to magnify, and over time
the scale did start to tip, like from you know,
negative to positive. That tipped to a more positive mindset.
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And what that did for me is it gave me
the ability than to do more in my life to
help myself, because suddenly I was starting to have a
little bit more faith.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I was starting to believe that I could.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I wasn't that that I was in control instead of life.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Was just happening to me and it was bad. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You are speaking do I know so many people out
there right now. We were talking about this during the
four o'clock hour. How it's a rough moment right now, and.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
There's many different reasons for that.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm not going to assign anything specific thing to that,
but we just live in a different time than we
did thirty or forty years ago, and it can be
really difficult for anyone, but especially those of us who
aren't thirties, forties, fifties up absolutely to maybe shift some
of what we want to do. So we're going to
spend the next forty minutes talking through some of this.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Tell us what you would like to do with this.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Time today for the folks that are listening at home
or on the go, what would you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Like to share or teach? Walk us just through a.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Little outline, if you will, of what you'd like to
talk about with us today.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, I thought we could talk about beginning of the
year stuff. You know, a lot of us like to
have resolutions. A lot of resolutions don't last. Sometimes we
like to set goals. And I have a few different
thoughts on if you're interested in making a resolution, or
if you're the kind of person who's like, been there,
done that doesn't work. I have some ways that you
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can think about it that maybe will improve your life and.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Help you be on track. So awesome, That's what I
was thinking.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And we can use the teachings in my book and
some of the stuff that I've personally done, yeah, to
help guide the conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Are you willing to take calls during this period of
time people have questions or want to kind of like
work out suss out like what they could do based
on their situation.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, let's I mean bring it on.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay you guys, Like I said, this is a gift
to you today.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And again it just kind of literally I believe in
I call it synchronicity, like when you see something happening
and then someone comes to mind or those things. I
believe that is the universe or God telling you, hey,
put these two things together. And literally Kat was like
on my feet a couple days ago and I was like,
I need Kat to come in and co host while
Mindy's in Nashville for the end of the year show,
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because Kat has what it takes to really create your
own happiness and manifest your best life, as it says
in the.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Front of her book. So okay, that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm gonna give you guys the phone number in case
you want to work through anything as you're setting goals
or resolutions, or even if you've really not loved goals
and resolutions with Kat, I want you to give us
a call again for about the next forty minutes, we're
going to talk through some of this teach Kat is
going to teach us.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So six one.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Four eight two one nine eight eighty six is the
phone number to call. That is six one four eight
two one WTVN, and we will take those calls and
work through it together. I mean, I'm on this part
of my journey right now too. I do this at
the end of the year, and I'm doing it a
little differently this year, and I can benefit from this
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conversation too, because I'm not doing it the same way
I've always done it and sometimes you need to change up.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You absolutely well, what are you doing? How are you thinking?
How about it?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So I I did a series of questions that I
got through, some of you probably know how to Koppy
who was on the Today Show.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
She's started this.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
App called Joy one oh one, and so it was
like questions for the end of the year that I've
worked through. And then I listen to someone else talk
about designing your life, and so I have not gone
through it quite that way before. I've been very prescriptive
in other years. So I am open and this conversation
as much as for you guys, pase for me too.
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So I just think it's wonderful. So yes, we will
talk all about that. We'll dig into it, okay again
six eight eight six six two one WTVN if you
have questions or if you want some help working through
those goal and resolution moments. And also we're on Facebook Live.
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that, and we're
monitoring that. I'm monitorating, monitoring if I could say that
(12:30):
the comments there, So leave your questions there, give us
a call, multiple ways to do it, and we will
get into it right after the break.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
This is what Matters on.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh yeah, I mean, thank you again, Zach for the
gift music. I mean, opp, well wait no this has
ended well oh my gosh, because oh yeah, this is
this o pp okay, but but does opp did the music?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Was it sampled from a Jackson? Because it sounds like
a Jackson?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I'm thanks, yeah, And sampling back then was like such
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It was always like things.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So Zach, thanks for confirming that it was what I thought.
Yes from the early nineties. Raised so many eyebrows when
it came out, but man, it's the jam. So hey guys,
we're back. Cat Artemis, mindset coach author in with us.
She is directed Underscore Thoughts on Instagram. You gotta go
follow her. We're going to talk through some things and
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if you have questions or if you want to talk
with her about goal setting and resolutions, give us a
call six one four nine eighty six six one four
eight two one at WTV And we're going to do
this for the next few segments. Okay, so where do
you want to start Because you also have this book
and this journal that I've been using for the last
like thirty some weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
We're going to talk about this too.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But where do you want to start Since we're talking
about going into the new year and goals and resolutions.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Well, why don't we start with why don't so? Why
don't we start with why they don't? Why they don't work?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Why goals and resolutions don't work? Okay, I'm here to listen.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Because this isn't just really the new year that they
don't work. I mean, how many times do we set
some kind of goal and we're like a week into it.
I mean I've probably been on, you know, a diet
every month of my.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Life and people feel you, other people feel you on that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I mean, so why don't they work?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
You know, have you ever set a goal or a
New Year's resolution you're like into February and you're like,
I don't even remember what that was?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, And then I feel like I really tail off
by the time we get to July, because I'm a
person who looks at goals and tries to keep a compass,
if you will, And yeah, I'm like, what happened to
this one?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
By energy behind? This is really not there halfway.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Through the year totally. I think I made a little
over here.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I was thinking about it earlier before I came in
and I so obviously this is this is going to
circle back to our thoughts.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
But there's different types.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Of goals that we make, right, Like we might make
that identity goal. Most people want to get healthy because
we've eaten so poorly for the since Thanksgiving through Now, like.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
What day is it? How much cheese is in me?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I put that ONSTA exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I've had more sugar in the last two weeks than
I've had a whole year, actually, keto, And that's out.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The wind, definitely out the window.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Since before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So this is just life.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Is celebrating life.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, it's just life.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So we get to January and I think there is
that feeling of like there, this is a new year,
you know, I want to do something different. And so
some people want to set a goal. Maybe they want
to lose weight, maybe they want to change their job,
maybe there's there's some very specific thing they want to do.
I tend to like uh topics, Like for example, last year,
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I just thought, okay, so for twenty twenty five, I
want to learn how to communicate better. And so it
wasn't it didn't have like a final thing, but it
was general. It was general, general, But then I broke
it down to, you know, well, why do I want
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to do this, you know, and how how would that
make me feel if I could communicate better? So what
I'm thinking when I said that was I'm not great
at Instagram reels. They they're weird, Like I could I
should just make them with us talking.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Because I feel like that would be good.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But when I'm doing it alone, it feels weird and
and I don't always know exactly how to present all
of the things that I have to offer, and so
I really wanted to set myself up for how can
I be talking about these things? And you have to
go out and kind of search that information out right,
So I made a plan and I just kind of
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had a general plan every every month of the things
I wanted to learn. So that was that was That
was one goal, like something that I wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But it was general.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And you feel like if we do more general, we
might be more interested in keeping with whatever the quote
unquote goal or resolution is.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I had a general goal, but I had a why.
So I think we have to have a why. I
think we have to have a why, and we have
to know how we want, how this thing, how completing
it is going to make us feel. So if we
want to, for example, lose weight, you know, okay, I
want to lose twenty pounds. Usually it's people like I
want to lose weight, I want to get in this outfit,
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I want to look this way, but that doesn't always
stick the way. Maybe wanting to get healthy would be
so last year I wanted to get healthy, or I
wanted to get strong. So if you get strong, you're
very likely going to lose weight if you're building muscle,
but the outcome is strength and health, and it's not
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just losing the weight. Because it's so easy to let
life get us off track, and that constant autopilot voice
will always bring us back to the shame we feel,
the negativity we feel. So like if you're starting a goal,
for example, like losing weight based on something that is
negative and negative feeling.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
We've got to start with that.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
We've got to start with that why and really understand,
like why are we doing this and how.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Do we want this thing to make us feel?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So that's your first suggestion.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Before we commit to a goal, we need to ask
ourselves why and do we write it down. Do we
put a note on our phone like what do we?
Is there a way to go through this that makes
more of an impression on our mind than that?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Absolutely? So I actually brought with me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So I.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Brought this and I will link it up for you.
Give it to your to link up.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's actually a productivity planner that gives you pages for
your goals, what your focus is, why do you want it?
What would you reward yourself if you got it? It
actually has places for notes, and then every week it
gives you a section to really write down how far
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you've come and where you're going the following week.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So it is important to write your goals down. I
think it's important.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
If you're really wanting to achieve a goal, then you
have to break that goal into smaller pieces and then
you have to change your habits and how you think
in order to support those goals.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Would definitely love that link for those people who need that,
because that looks incredible. I love that, And that's who
I am. I'm married to somebody though, or someone else
out there, it might be like who I'm married to
and I love my husband. He is not as much
a write it down kind of guy. I think the
general idea of a general topic would be good for
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those folks who aren't as organized necessarily or aren't as
much about tracking. Can they still be successful doing this?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So. I think that success isn't from the doing, it's
from It starts with the thinking. It starts with the
habit that you're going to create in order to achieve
the thing that you want to achieve. So, for here's
an example I tried. I struggled for a long time
with writing my book. I knew what I wanted to say,
but I really struggled with actually sitting down and doing it.
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And I was a night out for years, but I
couldn't really write at night. And I knew that I
was going to have to change my habits, Like my
goal was to write a book, but how am I
going to get to that? So then I had to
learn how to become a morning person. So I had
to completely change my habit.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
That means first I got to start getting up at six,
Then I got to start get up at five forty five.
Then I got to start get up five, Like you
have to teach yourself when these very small incremental habits
like how to be the person and that you want
to become based on this resolution or goal that you have.
So if I want to be a writer or an author,
who is she when she gets up in the morning?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Is she somebody who gets up in the morning and
she writes from you know, five o'clock to seven o'clock am?
Is she somebody who has like a very specific.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Routine? You know?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
All of those little tiny habits. The way we think
about them is very important.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So even if you're not a person who tracks them,
you think if you change that mindset because you know
your why, you'll start to become yeah, or move towards
this general goal.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
If you know your why and you really can feel
that why and you because your why has to be
the thing that's the foundation that you're building on. You know,
the why has to be enough to push you through
the hard days.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So we're up against the break, but the why has
to be enough to push you through the hard days.
We're going to start from them when we come back
after the news at the bottom of the hour, and
we will continue on this exercise. Very good, all right,
this is what matters. On six ten wtvn our thoughts
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will get it tagged in our Facebook Live, which we
have restarted. We were having some audio problems, so thank
you to the listeners who let us know about it.
We saw your comment finally and we got it fixed,
so hopefully it's going okay on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's on my Facebook page right now.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So, Kat, we're helping people get into twenty twenty six
talking about resolutions and goals and why sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
They don't work.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And you left us this last segment with you really
do have to start with the why to drive any kind.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Of success with goals and resolutions.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Absolutely, I think the why is your foundation, the why
is going So our thoughts are attached to emotion usually, right,
so most of our big thoughts are important thoughts have
some type of emotion attached to them. So if we
just create a goal without a why, we are not
really attaching anything that's gonna that's gonna be lasting. But
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when you attach emotion to that or a feeling, I
know why I want to do this, and I know
why how that's going to make me feel, that's a
much bigger there's a much better plan and much better
foundation than if you just create a goal with with
you know, with without anything beneath it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So we're taking calls if you guys want to call
in and talk a little bit about this or have
questions for kat six one four eight two one nine
eight eight six six one four eight two one WTVN
through the end of the show. So, once we have
our why in your world from a mindset lens, what
do we need to do next? We have our why,
we understand it, we've written it down were or we
know it in our head. We've got to start living
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that why, like and living that way.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What do we do next?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, you have your why, you're living that way. What
I want what I want people to remember is that
just because you create your why does not mean that
those old autopilot thoughts aren't going to sneak in like
they used to do for me and just tell you
that that's not going to work. Right, So like understanding
how you're thinking about it and then going ahead and
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paying attention like, Okay, my voice just told me here's
why I can't do that. That's when you have to
start questioning your thoughts. That's when you really get into
that the meaning that you're putting that.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
The meanings that you give.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
To sorry, meaning that you give to what you constantly
tell yourself. Hen me your book for a second, because
I mean the book is called a New Way to
Think About Thinking, and it is very substantive.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I've read some of it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But when you say the meaning that you're giving to thoughts,
what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And what do you teach here and how does it
apply to the new year?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Thank you for saving me there no problem. There's so
many things happening in the studio and ADHD just kind
of like grabs my brain.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
So I appreciate that you for saving me.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So when I say redefine the meaning, what I'm saying
is that we give meanings to things every day that
aren't necessarily true. So when I say you question your thoughts,
and if your thought is telling you that you are
not going to be good enough, for example, to achieve
this goal, that's where you really have to take a
step back and ask yourself, is this true? And what
meaning am I giving this that's actually telling me that
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it's not true? And let me stop and redefine how
I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I think that it's.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Very important for us to really pay attention to those
thoughts that are pulling us down.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I write. When I was going through this, I started
to write them down. I was. I carried a little
notebook with me at work.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Super simple, super simple.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I carried a little notebook. I'm a writer.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I like to write with a pen, but some people
you could do it on your phone. But three times
a day I would actually write down the thought that
were sabotaging me, and then I would rewrite like they're
not true, and here's why they're not true. And that
was helped me become successful so much faster because every
time that negative voice crept up to me, I looked.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
At the meaning that I was giving.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
When I say the meaning, what I mean by that is,
here's a very simple explanation. Let's say you go to work,
and let's say you want a promotion and you think
your boss hates you. We've all kind of been there.
You think your boss hates you because your boss looked
at you a certain way that morning, and now you
just think, well, he or she looked at me this
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way and they don't like me. Yes, my whole plan
is ruined. Right, And so when I say what meaning
are you giving it? So you could actually say I
really want that promotion. Here are the things that I'm
doing to work towards it. My boss has lots of
other things on her mind and probably saw right through
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me and wasn't even looking at me when I thought
they were giving me that dirty look. Right right, And
so you can start to redefine the meaning, the meaning
how you're thinking about the meaning that you're giving things.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And that's a very simple thing. But those are the
things that get us off track.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
When you set a goal or resolution. It's that voice
in our mind that stops us. Oh no, it can't
work because of this. Well, that's just an autopilot thought
that we've been telling ourselves for years. We can redefine
that anytime we want.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I have to say, it's a good time to mention
Sunday Night Reminders because talk about redefining meaning heading into
your work week or whatever week you're having, and if
you don't work. So Kat has the show I'm holding
this up on Facebook. She has this journal called Sunday
Night Reminders fifty two weeks of motivation, encouragement and inspiration,
and Mindy introduced us to Kat January nineteenth last year,
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and so Kat gave us these and I will tell
you this does redefine your thoughts and meaning behind your week.
I do this on Sunday nights. I've done it for
probably somewhere between thirty two and.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Thirty five weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I couldn't believe how much I'd done it, actually when
I looked at it last week. Talk to us about
what's in here that helps potentially redefine meaning.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I love this so much.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I love that you've been doing it for thirty thirty
four weeks. So where this came from is on my Instagram.
Sunday night reminders took off and they've been my most
popular posts. People look forward to them, and if I miss.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
A week, you hear about it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I met have you out on it?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, And it's just me, you know, posting every day,
So there are times where I miss But I decided
to take my posts and put them in here. So
each week you get a post, one post that's been
on Instagram, and then you get a little area to
put your reflection. So reflect on the post and then
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for your week ahead, I want you to just write
your intention for the week, how you're going to take
care of yourself that week, what you feel great for
before in advance.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
In advance, And I think that is huge. What you
feel grateful for in advance.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You know how they say, like in the business world, thanks,
thanks in advance, you know, but really in your life,
you should be thanking in advance for your blessings every week,
every day, Thanks in advance. Like that's something great to
say in the morning, it's something great to say on
Sundays because that shows the universe that you have faith.
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That shows that you're believing in what's coming.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Things are happening, Yeah, good things.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And let me tell you, I know this sounds.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
We will like I'm I know how this sounds, but
I've been doing this for eighteen years now and it works.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Oh my god, it works.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I mean I said this earlier, but these kind of
techniques that we're talking about, these small things, they have
literally changed my entire life. I told you I started
over in corporate America at forty I started over the
lowest rung of the ladder in a call center, and
it took twelve years. I got seven promotions to VP
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and I am telling you that was because I did
what this book says, I set the intentions. I talked
about how I was going to take care of myself,
how I wanted to think. I thought about how I
wanted to feel, what I was going to be grateful
for in advance, and I did that.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Every week we will tell you how you can get
these if you're interested in this. Going into twenty twenty six,
we do have a caller or two on the line.
I'm going to go to Frank first. Frank, welcome to
the show. What is it that you want to talk
with Kat about. Yeah, she's here and ready for you.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Well, just to clarify your complete name so I could
get your book, and how do you spell your name?
Your full name and that's the name of your book again.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Right, absolutely, My name is Kat with the K Kat,
and my last name is Artemis like the goddess Artemis
ar t E MS. And my book is called a
New Way to Think About Thinking. It's exclusively on Amazon.
So if you search Kat Artemis or a New to
Think About Thinking, you will find my book.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
And then will there be an audible version of that?
Is there?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
There is?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
There is actually an audible version. I think it's it's
either four ninety nine or five ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
It's on sale.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
All of my books are on sale right now through
the holidays, so yeah, you can get it on audible
and it's.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
There for you right now.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Okay. And then when there's a person with depression. I
really appreciate it. You said earlier about like you've got
a reason to get out of bed or you know,
you get up earlier in increments. But I don't know
if you want to share how that helped you get
the depression taking care of maybe, And that's well, thanks.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Ran, Yeah, thank you so much for asking.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I mean, I, like I said, I really suffered. And
so a couple of things. I have found that I
suffer less when I give more to others. And so
I found very early on that back back when I
really got this revelation and I wanted to get better,
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I started volunteering at the Ronald McDonald House.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
My daughter was little at the time.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
She had had some trouble when she was born, and
it was like on my heart, but there was something
so amazing about even though it was hard for me
to give up get up, like I used to make
food for them and so that I love to cook,
and it gave me this reason to do something small
but nice, like a couple times a month.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And that's that's how I started.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Like, when you are feeling depressed and it's really hard
to move forward, you know what are the incremental things?
One is giving back, you know, the second thing is
not boiling the ocean. Do not feel like you've got
to get better all at once, because it's kind of
like compound interest.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
If you spend a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Of time each day in appreciation, like just letting your
body feel appreciative of the things that you feel appreciative for.
If you let your body feel thankful, those actually will
start to multiply. And the more you can focus on
that incrementally, the better you start to feel. And I'll
leave you with this one thing that I love that
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I still do is I went through a divorce ten
years ago and one of the things I started doing
was tracking just these little accomplishments, Like I didn't know
how to do anything because I'd been married for twenty
five years. So I started tracking little things like and
I was so sad, right, So, like if I painted
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a wall at home, I put it on a little list.
If I got an oil change, I put it on
a list, Like I did this all throughout twenty sixteen
twenty seventeen, and when I got to the end of
the year. This was in twenty seventeen. When I got
to the end of the year, I had this list
of all the things that I did. And that's how
you know incrementally that you're doing better every day, Like
you go back and you start to look like even
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every month, Like you go back and you look at
this list, and you're like, here are the things that
I'm doing. And it's easy to make a list, to
make a list, and it's easy that it helps you
in the days where you feel that everything feels really
really bad, and then you have something to look at
and say, wait, hold on, my mind is telling me
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a lie.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It hasn't been all bad. It was only bad today.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You redefine the meaning.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, you redefine the meaning.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So we got to go to break. We have one
segment left. Great question, Frank, so glad for you calling.
So if anyone else wants to call six one four
eight two one nine eight eighty six six one four
eight two one WTVN, now's the time. So we talked
about making sure you know your why behind kind of
that general area.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Of interest for goals and resolutions.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We've talked about redefining the meaning when your brain is
telling you no, this isn't going to work even though
you've defined your why.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
How to do that, and we'll continue
Missed you this hour.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's gonna blow your mind, gonna change up your twenty
twenty six. Cat Artemis mindset coach, owner and creator of
Directed Underscore thoughts on Instagram plus many other things, including
a journal she wrote a book that she wrote is
in with us. It has been a pleasure to have
you in. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
for you here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Are you having a good time? Is it easier than
you thought?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes? I mean I've never done anything like this, but
this is a blast. I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And of course a mindset coach would say yes to
do something she's never done before because you got to
try it out.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Absolutely this it was this or a ninety minute pilates class.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh, I'm so glad you came here.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Girl. I'm so glad you came here.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Pilates can wait.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's right, six am tomorrow, six am tomorrow. So first
of all, I want to just say congratulations to our winner,
who we have on the line for our New Year's
Eve tickets to the incredible valley Dale show. Chris Burton
is on with us, and I think she's on with
our husband, Chris are you there?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
He walked away, but I'm still here and we're very
excited about winning the tickets. We just started taking ballroom
dancing lessons in Lesterville at Freda Staire, so we're happy.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
To go and try to hone our skills dancing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh, I think you were just going to have a blast.
Have you been to the Valley Deal before by any chance?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's been years, many years, so we're looking forward to
going back.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I mean and this New Year's Eve party sounds
just incredible, big band music where you can practice your moves.
Also a djay, a really great dinner, and it sounds
like an amazing opportunity on New Year's Eve. Yes, it does.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Thank you so much for the tickets. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
What were you gonna say, Kat, I was just going
to say, how long?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
How long have you been taking these lessons?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Three months?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh, that's perfect.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So you've got you've got some moves, you've got your
ready and I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Hey, I we believe in you, and I think it's
awesome that your husband wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So I will make sure to get you linked up
with their owner on their management group.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But just Chris, have a great time.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Tell your husband we're so glad that you won, and
just congratulations and happy New Year.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, happy New Year, Thank you so much. Happy I
tank you both. Thank you. Take care.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh my gosh, we've done some really great giveaways today.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And what we're going to give you right now during
the five o'clock hour is kind of the giveaway in
and of itself, because we are going to help your
brain better move into twenty twenty six. So we introduce
Kat at the top of the four o'clock hour. But Kat,
I want to reintroduce you again for those who are
just joining us for the five o'clock hour, along with
(02:40):
those who might have also followed along. You have spent
the last eighteen years working on what I would call
techniques maybe even a system of how to change our mindset.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And can you tell folks how this all started.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Where you were a little bit about your background prior
to doing this work.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I started this work, as you said, about eighteen years ago,
and I did not at any point in time eighteen
years ago think that I would be an author, that
I would have this Instagram following. I mean, I was
just trying to get my head above water eighteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So what were you going through at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, I had been really suffering for since I was
a teenager, all the way through my twenties and through
most of my thirties with anxiety, deep anxiety and depression.
We're talking, having difficulty getting out of bed. We're talking,
you know, smiling on the outside while feeling really awful
on the inside.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I had so much I.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Needed to work through, and I tried so many things.
I tried lots of different medications, I tried lots of therapies.
Not that those things don't work, they do. But for me,
I had to learn how to think thoughts that really
supported me because my thought hated me. My thoughts told
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me how unsuccessful I would be, how ugly I would be,
how poor I would be, how I wasn't good enough.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And so no matter what I did.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I couldnt, you know, no matter who I went to
to get help, those autopilot thoughts that were running day
in and day out. That was like my software or
my hardware, you know, And I had to reprogram that myself.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And what happened was one day I woke up.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I remember this so clearly, and I remember laying in
bed and I just thought, like, I am so tired
of smiling to the outside world and not meaning it
on the inside. So on the inside, I'm crying at
night when my family's sleeping, I'm crying.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But you know what, when I.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Go to school and get those kids, I'm smiling and
waving at the parents, Or when I'm at work, I've
got a positive attitude on. But inside I was really struggling,
and I just thought, like, how how long am I
going to do this?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Do I do this for the rest of my life?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So you were a mom at the time, yeah, married yeap?
And teaching, yes? Or what were you doing with kids?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Tell me just when I would to go to pick.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Me pick your kids up? Yeah? Were you working in corporate?
Were you working somewhere else?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I was not yet in corporate. I had a thriving
real estate business. I used to specialize in corporate relocation.
I did that until the market crashed, got it, yeap?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So around two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
Is that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's when I lost it all?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I lost it all that I was I was careening
fast to my fortieth decade and I lost my business.
It took me like literally overnight, it took me ten
years to build. I lost everything that I built, and
I was in the top ten percent in sales in
North America. Like I was crushing it. And then suddenly,
like you know, we were both self employed and finances.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
When it was a hard time.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It was it was so hard and I had to
start completely over in corporate America at forty at the
bottom of the ladder. That's probably a whole other I mean,
that's kind of a divers story, but it goes along
with my mindset stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So with it, you made a decision around this time
that you did you know where this was going to head?
I mean, now that you're an author and have these
you know, thirty thousand followers on Instagram directed underscore thoughts
is where you can find her, guys, I mean, like,
did you know what you were going to do when
you were at the very, very bottom.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I was literally trying to survive at that point, Like
I just wanted to walk out of my house and
feel happy for the day. I wanted to look at
someone and not compare myself. I wanted to find joy
and things instead of negativity. I wanted to not feel jaded.
I wanted to feel that there there was love and
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joy and it wasn't just my negative mind making everything
hard for me. And that's so I made this decision
that I was just going to only focus on spiritual,
my own spirituality, law of attraction and mindset, and that's it.
(07:16):
And that was right around like not long after The
Secret came out, that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Movie, the Secret movie in the book, yeah, in the book.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And then I started reading these other books called Abraham Hicks.
And at first I didn't love them because I felt
like I had created all my own pain and that
made me feel really bad. But then once I got
through those feelings, I started to realize, but wait, like
if I know that, then I can also start to
change how I think and maybe something different will happen
(07:45):
for me. And sure enough, when I started to add
some gratitude into my life and I started to pay
attention to what I appreciated and pay attention to what
I loved, those things started to magnify, and over time
the scale did start to tip, like from you know,
negative to positive. That tipped to a more positive mindset.
(08:07):
And what that did for me is it gave me
the ability than to do more in my life to
help myself, because suddenly I was starting to have a
little bit more faith.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I was starting to believe that I could.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I wasn't that that I was in control instead of life.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Was just happening to me and it was bad. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You are speaking do I know so many people out
there right now. We were talking about this during the
four o'clock hour. How it's a rough moment right now, and.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
There's many different reasons for that.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm not going to assign anything specific thing to that,
but we just live in a different time than we
did thirty or forty years ago, and it can be
really difficult for anyone, but especially those of us who
aren't thirties, forties, fifties up absolutely to maybe shift some
of what we want to do. So we're going to
spend the next forty minutes talking through some of this.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Tell us what you would like to do with this.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Time today for the folks that are listening at home
or on the go, what would you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Like to share or teach? Walk us just through a.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Little outline, if you will, of what you'd like to
talk about with us today.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, I thought we could talk about beginning of the
year stuff. You know, a lot of us like to
have resolutions. A lot of resolutions don't last. Sometimes we
like to set goals. And I have a few different
thoughts on if you're interested in making a resolution, or
if you're the kind of person who's like, been there,
done that doesn't work. I have some ways that you
(09:40):
can think about it that maybe will improve your life and.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Help you be on track. So awesome, That's what I
was thinking.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And we can use the teachings in my book and
some of the stuff that I've personally done, yeah, to
help guide the conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Are you willing to take calls during this period of
time people have questions or want to kind of like
work out suss out like what they could do based
on their situation.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, let's I mean bring it on.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay you guys, Like I said, this is a gift
to you today.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And again it just kind of literally I believe in
I call it synchronicity, like when you see something happening
and then someone comes to mind or those things. I
believe that is the universe or God telling you, hey,
put these two things together. And literally Kat was like
on my feet a couple days ago and I was like,
I need Kat to come in and co host while
Mindy's in Nashville for the end of the year show,
(10:34):
because Kat has what it takes to really create your
own happiness and manifest your best life, as it says
in the.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Front of her book. So okay, that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm gonna give you guys the phone number in case
you want to work through anything as you're setting goals
or resolutions, or even if you've really not loved goals
and resolutions with Kat, I want you to give us
a call again for about the next forty minutes, we're
going to talk through some of this teach Kat is
going to teach us.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So six one.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Four eight two one nine eight eighty six is the
phone number to call. That is six one four eight
two one WTVN, and we will take those calls and
work through it together. I mean, I'm on this part
of my journey right now too. I do this at
the end of the year, and I'm doing it a
little differently this year, and I can benefit from this
(11:23):
conversation too, because I'm not doing it the same way
I've always done it and sometimes you need to change up.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You absolutely well, what are you doing? How are you thinking?
How about it?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So I I did a series of questions that I
got through, some of you probably know how to Koppy
who was on the Today Show.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
She's started this.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
App called Joy one oh one, and so it was
like questions for the end of the year that I've
worked through. And then I listen to someone else talk
about designing your life, and so I have not gone
through it quite that way before. I've been very prescriptive
in other years. So I am open and this conversation
as much as for you guys, pase for me too.
(12:07):
So I just think it's wonderful. So yes, we will
talk all about that. We'll dig into it, okay again
six eight eight six six two one WTVN if you
have questions or if you want some help working through
those goal and resolution moments. And also we're on Facebook Live.
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that, and we're
monitoring that. I'm monitorating, monitoring if I could say that
(12:30):
the comments there, So leave your questions there, give us
a call, multiple ways to do it, and we will
get into it right after the break.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
This is what Matters on.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh yeah, I mean, thank you again, Zach for the
gift music. I mean, opp, well wait no this has
ended well oh my gosh, because oh yeah, this is
this o pp okay, but but does opp did the music?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Was it sampled from a Jackson? Because it sounds like
a Jackson?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I'm thanks, yeah, And sampling back then was like such
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It was always like things.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So Zach, thanks for confirming that it was what I thought.
Yes from the early nineties. Raised so many eyebrows when
it came out, but man, it's the jam. So hey guys,
we're back. Cat Artemis, mindset coach author in with us.
She is directed Underscore Thoughts on Instagram. You gotta go
follow her. We're going to talk through some things and
(13:36):
if you have questions or if you want to talk
with her about goal setting and resolutions, give us a
call six one four nine eighty six six one four
eight two one at WTV And we're going to do
this for the next few segments. Okay, so where do
you want to start Because you also have this book
and this journal that I've been using for the last
like thirty some weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
We're going to talk about this too.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But where do you want to start Since we're talking
about going into the new year and goals and resolutions.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Well, why don't we start with why don't so? Why
don't we start with why they don't? Why they don't work?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Why goals and resolutions don't work? Okay, I'm here to listen.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Because this isn't just really the new year that they
don't work. I mean, how many times do we set
some kind of goal and we're like a week into it.
I mean I've probably been on, you know, a diet
every month of my.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Life and people feel you, other people feel you on that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I mean, so why don't they work?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
You know, have you ever set a goal or a
New Year's resolution you're like into February and you're like,
I don't even remember what that was?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, And then I feel like I really tail off
by the time we get to July, because I'm a
person who looks at goals and tries to keep a compass,
if you will, And yeah, I'm like, what happened to
this one?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
By energy behind? This is really not there halfway.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Through the year totally. I think I made a little
over here.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I was thinking about it earlier before I came in
and I so obviously this is this is going to
circle back to our thoughts.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
But there's different types.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Of goals that we make, right, Like we might make
that identity goal. Most people want to get healthy because
we've eaten so poorly for the since Thanksgiving through Now, like.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
What day is it? How much cheese is in me?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I put that ONSTA exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I've had more sugar in the last two weeks than
I've had a whole year, actually, keto, And that's out.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The wind, definitely out the window.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Since before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So this is just life.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Is celebrating life.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, it's just life.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So we get to January and I think there is
that feeling of like there, this is a new year,
you know, I want to do something different. And so
some people want to set a goal. Maybe they want
to lose weight, maybe they want to change their job,
maybe there's there's some very specific thing they want to do.
I tend to like uh topics, Like for example, last year,
(16:02):
I just thought, okay, so for twenty twenty five, I
want to learn how to communicate better. And so it
wasn't it didn't have like a final thing, but it
was general. It was general, general, But then I broke
it down to, you know, well, why do I want
(16:22):
to do this, you know, and how how would that
make me feel if I could communicate better? So what
I'm thinking when I said that was I'm not great
at Instagram reels. They they're weird, Like I could I
should just make them with us talking.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Because I feel like that would be good.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But when I'm doing it alone, it feels weird and
and I don't always know exactly how to present all
of the things that I have to offer, and so
I really wanted to set myself up for how can
I be talking about these things? And you have to
go out and kind of search that information out right,
So I made a plan and I just kind of
(16:59):
had a general plan every every month of the things
I wanted to learn. So that was that was That
was one goal, like something that I wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But it was general.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And you feel like if we do more general, we
might be more interested in keeping with whatever the quote
unquote goal or resolution is.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I had a general goal, but I had a why.
So I think we have to have a why. I
think we have to have a why, and we have
to know how we want, how this thing, how completing
it is going to make us feel. So if we
want to, for example, lose weight, you know, okay, I
want to lose twenty pounds. Usually it's people like I
want to lose weight, I want to get in this outfit,
(17:39):
I want to look this way, but that doesn't always
stick the way. Maybe wanting to get healthy would be
so last year I wanted to get healthy, or I
wanted to get strong. So if you get strong, you're
very likely going to lose weight if you're building muscle,
but the outcome is strength and health, and it's not
(17:59):
just losing the weight. Because it's so easy to let
life get us off track, and that constant autopilot voice
will always bring us back to the shame we feel,
the negativity we feel. So like if you're starting a goal,
for example, like losing weight based on something that is
negative and negative feeling.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
We've got to start with that.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
We've got to start with that why and really understand,
like why are we doing this and how.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Do we want this thing to make us feel?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So that's your first suggestion.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Before we commit to a goal, we need to ask
ourselves why and do we write it down. Do we
put a note on our phone like what do we?
Is there a way to go through this that makes
more of an impression on our mind than that?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Absolutely? So I actually brought with me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So I.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Brought this and I will link it up for you.
Give it to your to link up.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's actually a productivity planner that gives you pages for
your goals, what your focus is, why do you want it?
What would you reward yourself if you got it? It
actually has places for notes, and then every week it
gives you a section to really write down how far
(19:12):
you've come and where you're going the following week.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So it is important to write your goals down. I
think it's important.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
If you're really wanting to achieve a goal, then you
have to break that goal into smaller pieces and then
you have to change your habits and how you think
in order to support those goals.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Would definitely love that link for those people who need that,
because that looks incredible. I love that, And that's who
I am. I'm married to somebody though, or someone else
out there, it might be like who I'm married to
and I love my husband. He is not as much
a write it down kind of guy. I think the
general idea of a general topic would be good for
(19:56):
those folks who aren't as organized necessarily or aren't as
much about tracking. Can they still be successful doing this?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So. I think that success isn't from the doing, it's
from It starts with the thinking. It starts with the
habit that you're going to create in order to achieve
the thing that you want to achieve. So, for here's
an example I tried. I struggled for a long time
with writing my book. I knew what I wanted to say,
but I really struggled with actually sitting down and doing it.
(20:30):
And I was a night out for years, but I
couldn't really write at night. And I knew that I
was going to have to change my habits, Like my
goal was to write a book, but how am I
going to get to that? So then I had to
learn how to become a morning person. So I had
to completely change my habit.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
That means first I got to start getting up at six,
Then I got to start get up at five forty five.
Then I got to start get up five, Like you
have to teach yourself when these very small incremental habits
like how to be the person and that you want
to become based on this resolution or goal that you have.
So if I want to be a writer or an author,
who is she when she gets up in the morning?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Is she somebody who gets up in the morning and
she writes from you know, five o'clock to seven o'clock am?
Is she somebody who has like a very specific.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Routine? You know?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
All of those little tiny habits. The way we think
about them is very important.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So even if you're not a person who tracks them,
you think if you change that mindset because you know
your why, you'll start to become yeah, or move towards
this general goal.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
If you know your why and you really can feel
that why and you because your why has to be
the thing that's the foundation that you're building on. You know,
the why has to be enough to push you through
the hard days.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So we're up against the break, but the why has
to be enough to push you through the hard days.
We're going to start from them when we come back
after the news at the bottom of the hour, and
we will continue on this exercise. Very good, all right,
this is what matters. On six ten wtvn our thoughts
(22:14):
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will get it tagged in our Facebook Live, which we
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We saw your comment finally and we got it fixed,
so hopefully it's going okay on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's on my Facebook page right now.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So, Kat, we're helping people get into twenty twenty six
talking about resolutions and goals and why sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
They don't work.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And you left us this last segment with you really
do have to start with the why to drive any kind.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Of success with goals and resolutions.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Absolutely, I think the why is your foundation, the why
is going So our thoughts are attached to emotion usually, right,
so most of our big thoughts are important thoughts have
some type of emotion attached to them. So if we
just create a goal without a why, we are not
really attaching anything that's gonna that's gonna be lasting. But
(23:10):
when you attach emotion to that or a feeling, I
know why I want to do this, and I know
why how that's going to make me feel, that's a
much bigger there's a much better plan and much better
foundation than if you just create a goal with with
you know, with without anything beneath it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So we're taking calls if you guys want to call
in and talk a little bit about this or have
questions for kat six one four eight two one nine
eight eight six six one four eight two one WTVN
through the end of the show. So, once we have
our why in your world from a mindset lens, what
do we need to do next? We have our why,
we understand it, we've written it down were or we
know it in our head. We've got to start living
(23:50):
that why, like and living that way.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What do we do next?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, you have your why, you're living that way. What
I want what I want people to remember is that
just because you create your why does not mean that
those old autopilot thoughts aren't going to sneak in like
they used to do for me and just tell you
that that's not going to work. Right, So like understanding
how you're thinking about it and then going ahead and
(24:15):
paying attention like, Okay, my voice just told me here's
why I can't do that. That's when you have to
start questioning your thoughts. That's when you really get into
that the meaning that you're putting that.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
The meanings that you give.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
To sorry, meaning that you give to what you constantly
tell yourself. Hen me your book for a second, because
I mean the book is called a New Way to
Think About Thinking, and it is very substantive.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I've read some of it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But when you say the meaning that you're giving to thoughts,
what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And what do you teach here and how does it
apply to the new year?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Thank you for saving me there no problem. There's so
many things happening in the studio and ADHD just kind
of like grabs my brain.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
So I appreciate that you for saving me.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So when I say redefine the meaning, what I'm saying
is that we give meanings to things every day that
aren't necessarily true. So when I say you question your thoughts,
and if your thought is telling you that you are
not going to be good enough, for example, to achieve
this goal, that's where you really have to take a
step back and ask yourself, is this true? And what
meaning am I giving this that's actually telling me that
(25:30):
it's not true? And let me stop and redefine how
I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I think that it's.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Very important for us to really pay attention to those
thoughts that are pulling us down.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I write. When I was going through this, I started
to write them down. I was. I carried a little
notebook with me at work.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Super simple, super simple.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I carried a little notebook. I'm a writer.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I like to write with a pen, but some people
you could do it on your phone. But three times
a day I would actually write down the thought that
were sabotaging me, and then I would rewrite like they're
not true, and here's why they're not true. And that
was helped me become successful so much faster because every
time that negative voice crept up to me, I looked.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
At the meaning that I was giving.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
When I say the meaning, what I mean by that is,
here's a very simple explanation. Let's say you go to work,
and let's say you want a promotion and you think
your boss hates you. We've all kind of been there.
You think your boss hates you because your boss looked
at you a certain way that morning, and now you
just think, well, he or she looked at me this
(26:41):
way and they don't like me. Yes, my whole plan
is ruined. Right, And so when I say what meaning
are you giving it? So you could actually say I
really want that promotion. Here are the things that I'm
doing to work towards it. My boss has lots of
other things on her mind and probably saw right through
(27:03):
me and wasn't even looking at me when I thought
they were giving me that dirty look. Right right, And
so you can start to redefine the meaning, the meaning
how you're thinking about the meaning that you're giving things.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And that's a very simple thing. But those are the
things that get us off track.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
When you set a goal or resolution. It's that voice
in our mind that stops us. Oh no, it can't
work because of this. Well, that's just an autopilot thought
that we've been telling ourselves for years. We can redefine
that anytime we want.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I have to say, it's a good time to mention
Sunday Night Reminders because talk about redefining meaning heading into
your work week or whatever week you're having, and if
you don't work. So Kat has the show I'm holding
this up on Facebook. She has this journal called Sunday
Night Reminders fifty two weeks of motivation, encouragement and inspiration,
and Mindy introduced us to Kat January nineteenth last year,
(27:53):
and so Kat gave us these and I will tell
you this does redefine your thoughts and meaning behind your week.
I do this on Sunday nights. I've done it for
probably somewhere between thirty two and.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Thirty five weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I couldn't believe how much I'd done it, actually when
I looked at it last week. Talk to us about
what's in here that helps potentially redefine meaning.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I love this so much.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I love that you've been doing it for thirty thirty
four weeks. So where this came from is on my Instagram.
Sunday night reminders took off and they've been my most
popular posts. People look forward to them, and if I miss.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
A week, you hear about it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I met have you out on it?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, And it's just me, you know, posting every day,
So there are times where I miss But I decided
to take my posts and put them in here. So
each week you get a post, one post that's been
on Instagram, and then you get a little area to
put your reflection. So reflect on the post and then
(28:51):
for your week ahead, I want you to just write
your intention for the week, how you're going to take
care of yourself that week, what you feel great for
before in advance.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
In advance, And I think that is huge. What you
feel grateful for in advance.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You know how they say, like in the business world, thanks,
thanks in advance, you know, but really in your life,
you should be thanking in advance for your blessings every week,
every day, Thanks in advance. Like that's something great to
say in the morning, it's something great to say on
Sundays because that shows the universe that you have faith.
(29:27):
That shows that you're believing in what's coming.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Things are happening, Yeah, good things.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And let me tell you, I know this sounds.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
We will like I'm I know how this sounds, but
I've been doing this for eighteen years now and it works.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Oh my god, it works.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I mean I said this earlier, but these kind of
techniques that we're talking about, these small things, they have
literally changed my entire life. I told you I started
over in corporate America at forty I started over the
lowest rung of the ladder in a call center, and
it took twelve years. I got seven promotions to VP
(30:03):
and I am telling you that was because I did
what this book says, I set the intentions. I talked
about how I was going to take care of myself,
how I wanted to think. I thought about how I
wanted to feel, what I was going to be grateful
for in advance, and I did that.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Every week we will tell you how you can get
these if you're interested in this. Going into twenty twenty six,
we do have a caller or two on the line.
I'm going to go to Frank first. Frank, welcome to
the show. What is it that you want to talk
with Kat about. Yeah, she's here and ready for you.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Well, just to clarify your complete name so I could
get your book, and how do you spell your name?
Your full name and that's the name of your book again.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Right, absolutely, My name is Kat with the K Kat,
and my last name is Artemis like the goddess Artemis
ar t E MS. And my book is called a
New Way to Think About Thinking. It's exclusively on Amazon.
So if you search Kat Artemis or a New to
Think About Thinking, you will find my book.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
And then will there be an audible version of that?
Is there?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
There is?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
There is actually an audible version. I think it's it's
either four ninety nine or five ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
It's on sale.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
All of my books are on sale right now through
the holidays, so yeah, you can get it on audible
and it's.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
There for you right now.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Okay. And then when there's a person with depression. I
really appreciate it. You said earlier about like you've got
a reason to get out of bed or you know,
you get up earlier in increments. But I don't know
if you want to share how that helped you get
the depression taking care of maybe, And that's well, thanks.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Ran, Yeah, thank you so much for asking.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I mean, I, like I said, I really suffered. And
so a couple of things. I have found that I
suffer less when I give more to others. And so
I found very early on that back back when I
really got this revelation and I wanted to get better,
(32:07):
I started volunteering at the Ronald McDonald House.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
My daughter was little at the time.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
She had had some trouble when she was born, and
it was like on my heart, but there was something
so amazing about even though it was hard for me
to give up get up, like I used to make
food for them and so that I love to cook,
and it gave me this reason to do something small
but nice, like a couple times a month.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And that's that's how I started.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Like, when you are feeling depressed and it's really hard
to move forward, you know what are the incremental things?
One is giving back, you know, the second thing is
not boiling the ocean. Do not feel like you've got
to get better all at once, because it's kind of
like compound interest.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
If you spend a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Of time each day in appreciation, like just letting your
body feel appreciative of the things that you feel appreciative for.
If you let your body feel thankful, those actually will
start to multiply. And the more you can focus on
that incrementally, the better you start to feel. And I'll
leave you with this one thing that I love that
(33:09):
I still do is I went through a divorce ten
years ago and one of the things I started doing
was tracking just these little accomplishments, Like I didn't know
how to do anything because I'd been married for twenty
five years. So I started tracking little things like and
I was so sad, right, So, like if I painted
(33:30):
a wall at home, I put it on a little list.
If I got an oil change, I put it on
a list, Like I did this all throughout twenty sixteen
twenty seventeen, and when I got to the end of
the year. This was in twenty seventeen. When I got
to the end of the year, I had this list
of all the things that I did. And that's how
you know incrementally that you're doing better every day, Like
you go back and you start to look like even
(33:52):
every month, Like you go back and you look at
this list, and you're like, here are the things that
I'm doing. And it's easy to make a list, to
make a list, and it's easy that it helps you
in the days where you feel that everything feels really
really bad, and then you have something to look at
and say, wait, hold on, my mind is telling me
(34:12):
a lie.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It hasn't been all bad. It was only bad today.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You redefine the meaning.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, you redefine the meaning.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So we got to go to break. We have one
segment left. Great question, Frank, so glad for you calling.
So if anyone else wants to call six one four
eight two one nine eight eighty six six one four
eight two one WTVN, now's the time. So we talked
about making sure you know your why behind kind of
that general area.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Of interest for goals and resolutions.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We've talked about redefining the meaning when your brain is
telling you no, this isn't going to work even though
you've defined your why.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
How to do that, and we'll continue
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