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August 10, 2025 • 13 mins
Mindy is joined by Kami, Joe and Jill and discuss family dynamics!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, this is going to be an hour like
none other. First of our producer, Chris, I can't go
live with this. We're trying to go live on my
Facebook page, but it's not letting me for some reason.
I can't write anything. So maybe you can pop in
here anyway. Maybe I'll try this right here anyway. I
want to put this on our Facebook page. But yeah,
maybe you can look at it. I can't. Oh, I

(00:22):
think I figured it out. Never mind, So why this
is such important conversations because I don't know if we've
really had this deep of a conversation when it comes
to family dynamics, Joe with peak retirement. You're in here
every month, well with raw and now also with what Matters.
But you were a great athlete in school, in high
school and in college. So I really wanted to open

(00:44):
up this whole conversation about family dynamics. And I also
invited in my daughter Cammy, because this conversation could go anywhere.
And what did I tell her before we went.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
On the air.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I don't know what you told her, would I say, Cammy?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, you gotta be honest, Yeah, be honest. You're not
gonna hurt my feelings. We're gonna lay it on the
line about parenting and about things and issues that you
face growing up. And Jill, whose Joe's mom, is in
as well, because one of the things we're going to
talk about is are you a mama's boy?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I don't know, ask my mom.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Jill yes, shaking his head on some things.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yes, I would definitely say yes for a certain depends
what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh yeah, you got to talk real close to the microphone.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
It depends what the subject is. So but most of all,
I probably yes, i'd be a yes on that.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I'll put it this way, since we're talking about sports.
Both were very involved in my development and sports growing
up and everything. But my mom was just as involved
when a summer standpoint of you know, rebounding for me
or going out and throwing baseball with me or whatever
it was. So I know that's not the case with
most moms. I know Mendy was probably out there sliding

(01:57):
the home plate with Cameo all time, but uh, you
know that's not always the case when it comes to mothers.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Cameron, she was out there shagging.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
We knew that if she was the one doing the
front tosses, we just get an argument. So she did
a great job in the outfield.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I will say this though, do you consider yourself a
daddy's girl?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, everyone knows that one.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
So oh here's my take on it. Yeah, she's more
like you. Like I always tell you all the time.
You two are identical twins.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Should I I see that, I really see that. And
I see that in her good parts, like personality doesn't
know a stranger if she sees you, Joe. Oh, I
love your glasses. I love your nails, Joe. That's a
good shirt. And honestly, when she was little, she'll she'll
never remember this, but when Cammy was little and we
were going through a drive through, it was a Dairy

(02:52):
Queen drive through. She was in the back of the
car seat and this girl handed us our food and
she's like, I like you. And I thought to myself,
Oh my gosh, the things that we do as parents
really do trickle down to our children, whether we want
them to or not. I bring that up, Jill, because
the good parts of her, yeah, I see a lot

(03:13):
of myself, But the bad parts of her, I see
a lot of myself, like a temper. She's very headstrong.
She's very stubborn. Do you get that from you, from
me or your dad?

Speaker 5 (03:23):
I get that from you, but I get my common
sense that backs it up from my dad.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
So Maya, do you.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Think Joe's more like you or more like your husband?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Just like what you said, Joe Junior is more like
me in a lot of ways. A lot of people
have said that sometimes with his the way he his mannerisms,
the way he acts, but his directness is definitely from
Joe Senior. I'm probably not as direct as those two are,
but I would say we're both in our mannerisms, probably
more outgoing, a little bit more friendly. Joe and I

(03:53):
are versus Joe's a little bit more reserved.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
So we're gonna have these conversations because I just thought
it was an ample opportun tunity. Joe, you are going
to talk about peak retirement coming up in the second hour,
because Cammy and I will be with you for the
first hour, and then we're taking off and we're hitting
the road because we will move in to our brand
new little it's not a new house. I think it
was built like in the nineteen forties, but we're getting

(04:17):
a little lake house in Indian Lake and I know
you know that, so we'll be hitting the road to
do that. But ask Cammy if she can believe that
her parents actually buckled down and got something like this
Midwastern millionaires.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's what it is. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Like in a million years, did you think your dad
and I would do something like this?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
No?

Speaker 5 (04:35):
I mean even when they were talking about it recently,
I was like, my mom was like, are you not excited?
I'm like, dude, It's is just one of those things
that when you do it, when you get the keys,
I'll believe it and it'll be great. But I'm but
until then, you know, I'm just gonna keep smiling and Noddy.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
So let's talk about, you know, all the sacrifices you
made over all these years, Cammy that uh.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh my gosh, I worked for I worked for it.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
He doesn't mean your sacrifice.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Yeah, I the way you dressed me up as a
boy for Kylin's Au basketball games. Every cent you saved
on things like that.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, what about the baseball bat, the softball bat that
you couldn't get a softball bat or something like that.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, wait, there was no hold on I wasn't going
to spend like five thousand dollars on a bat like
some of these people do. But I will say, Jill,
this is one of my favorite memories, and this tells
you everything about how Kylon and Cameron grew up and
about how we didn't waste our money. We didn't want
to be wasteful like that and spend here and spend there.

(05:35):
Because you probably saw it along the way in aau,
it's a game to these people, it's a racket, and
I was not going to be a player of that racket.
So this was the championship Sunday in the area, and
she was a very important part of this team. Shortstop.
Where were you in the lineup at this point? Third third?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah? Probably?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And her cleats had holes in them.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
They brought like they we got them from playing against
sports Okay, everything I ever got, all my stuff, gloves, cleats, turfs,
everything I had was from playing against sports bat.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I had one new glove my entire life before I
got to I stand. But I do think about that
genuinely because I work with a lot of younger girls.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
I came from a practice before today ten you practice,
and these girls have Bruce bolts that.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Are a hundred dollars batting gloves.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
They've got about four bats each, and these are like
Eastern ghost bats that are about three four hundred dollars
a bat, and they've got like four in their thing.
And this is ten years old, and like, I'm just
like in awe because it's so little to what really mattered.
And it is nice that these parents sacrifice so much
of these kids. But I'm like, dude, in a way,
it's like, I'm so grateful that, honestly, looking back at that,

(06:44):
my parents were cheating. Yeah, because because it was never
about that stuff. It was always about like how hard
are you're working? And then like the bat I'm using
always came last like that, there was never.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
A reason for anything that was going on.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, I brought that up because her cleats have holes
and they were literally falling apart, like they could open up, like.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
They fell apart. The complete bottom of the turf came
off my foot.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
So what did I do, Joe? You tell me how
to go barefoot? I taped it. Jill, that's right, and
you know what, they won the darn championship and Cammy
hit one of the winning game. RBIs right, sounds like
that should be up in the new house somewhere.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Those cleats, and yeah, as a memorilia.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
For you with me, he probably threw them away.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So, Jill, did you used to do that?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
We didn't.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
He never had, you know, if he wanted something, he
worked for it. Joe did. So he had to buy
a lot of his own because he loved his basketball shoes.
He couldn't just have one. He had to have several
pairs of basketball shoes. And we would maybe buy the
first pair and he had to buy the other one.
So but he worked for what he got for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
So why does so many families do the opposite where
they do just enable their kids and maybe they want
them Joe to be the best athlete that they can
be at eight years old, at ten years old, at sixteen, whatever.
But like Cammy said, will all that really make the
difference the equipment.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
No, I mean it's just like it's it's not even close.
But I mean I think a generations are changing too.
I mean there's a lot that will show that your
your generation raising kids was different than what the generation
is now raising kids. So it's maybe not even so
much the kids, it's the parents and just what's stemming
from that.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
We know a lot of you listening right now that
you are either parents or grandparents of kids who played sports,
or perhaps they were in the theater or anything extracurricular
maybe four h but as parents, we really do want
our kids to succeed and be the best at whatever
they choose. For you, it was basketball. For Cameo was
softball and basketball. She really had a hard time deciding

(08:41):
which way she wanted to go. But I think you
really did enjoy softball more. But you were pretty darn
good at basketball too.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean I always was gonna be so like
I always played softa I didn't start playing basketball. It's
like fifth to like fourth or third or something like.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It was later. That's sold.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
I know I played softball since.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
You weren't at all your dad's practicestball.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
I was, But I always knew, like even when I
got to high school, I always felt like I was
a softball player playing basketball. But that being said, like
I enjoyed doing the thing, Like I wasn't standing out
on the three shooting shots every day.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I was driving in found.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Out she was pretty aggressive.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
She was very aggressive, which and I.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Get that a lot of that from my dad's coach,
watching him coach basketball and see what he wanted from
his players.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I was like, all right, like ill.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
No, I think you got it from Mendy watching her
at the games.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
You know, what way? Do you want to talk about
that a little bit? And this isn't just going to
be about sports, but we want to talk about too.
Mama's boys daddy's girls. Are they a good thing? Are
they a bad thing? I did a little research and honestly,
there's a little bit of both. You consider yourself a
mama's boy? Do you to what degree do you think?

(09:53):
Do you think he's a mama's boy?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah? He is? He is?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah? And the dad he definitely, Well, there's no no
doubt about it in my mind that Cammy is a
daddy's girl. And like I said, there's pros, there's cons.
Do you want to join in this conversation, Boots? But
but does that like do I get offended by that?
Does it? Does it hurt my feelings that she's so

(10:19):
much in love with her dad? And then there's just
me as a mom? What do you think, Boots?

Speaker 6 (10:24):
I was close to I think it's a thing, maybe
because I think that's the reason I'm a mama's boy,
one hundred percent mama's boy. But my mom spoiled me
and I was her danny, and that's her my daughter.
I don't have a son, so I don't know what
the difference would be that direction. Are you mama's boy?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Many many coined me, and I can't back away from it.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
Many knows.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I think I think that, I think you are. I
think you're close with both your parents and Cammy. I
think you're close with both your parents, but you definitely
leave no. I think I think that. I think Joe
hit it on the head, and I think, with a
lot of people listening, you do become your parents so
much like I look at Kylin's personality and I look
at Randy's personality. They are one and the same, laid back,

(11:09):
easy going, and Carrie and I do have the same personality,
and so because of that we butt heads a lot.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Well see, but at my house, my brother is like
my dad and I'm like my mom. Totally different my
middle brother is.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
But you didn't have a sister.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
No, I'd have a sister, so our house was totally different.
I mean, we walked around like no big deal, boys
and some of them. When my first wife would come
to the house, she goes, I can't believe the stuff
you do in front of your mother. But she's around
three boys and my dad. So it was a whole
different You didn't have to there wasn't as many rules.
I guess you walk around butt naked. Nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh, I would care if you walk to right.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
It's different when you have girls. You have a sister, Joe, Oh,
so it's totally you guys. I mean it's all boys.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's a whole different world. Is your sister a daddy's girl? Yeah, yes,
see that's what I would just think. It's so remarkable
how this thing just evens itself out.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I have heard this too a lot of times with
daughters that when they're younger, they are very very close
with their father father figure. They look up to them,
they want to they want them to be impressed with
everything that they do. And then a little later in life,
maybe when you become a mom, then you won't be
a daddy's girl anymore. You'll be a right when they
get a little older than they kind of look at mom.

(12:20):
As far as more parental advice, Joe, what do you
think how old your daughter?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
She should be thirty five. So it just depends on
the subjects. Again, the same way with Joe, Like she'll
go to Joe on certain things, but then she'll come
to me on certain things.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
So it's funny and you look so much like I
bet you get that a lot. Yeah, I have heard
she won't rise more randy than you.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Parents.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think there's a lot of glimpse of Cammy that
you like. Just I've seen I've seen you two in
different settings where I'm like, Wow, you guys look very similar.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And I think our mannerisms because I'll be with Joe
at a meeting and He's like, oh my gosh, that
looks just like I'm she looks like me.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
I have two I have two friends that are adopted,
and it's it's hilarious how people think it's their real
kid because it's taking mannerisms you you. I think it's
your culture. You know you you start turning into that person,
and I think that has a lot to do with
it too.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
So so when we come back, and I would love
for you to stick around, Boots, because what we want
to talk about is favoritism. Do parents hope have favorite kids?
Do kids have favorite parents?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
And we want to have to get.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
We see, we got to get. We got a phone
call right here, but we gotta go to break and
then we'll take the phone call. If you want to
join in on this conversation. Six one four, eight two
one nine eight eight six six one four eight two
one nine eight eighty six. Is there favoritism in families?
Let us know, well, we were right back.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
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