December 14, 2025 • 23 mins
Mindy and Mikaela speak with Valley Dale and do a giveaway for listeners!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So the first hour of the show, it was kind
of heavy. It was kind of deep, but it's what
everybody was talking about. But we're going to lighten things
up because how many days until Christmas?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Now? What are we on?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
A love eleven?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
I just changed over my little cander. Yeah, my little calendar.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All calendars are so fun to follow.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So eleven days of Christmas, we thought we would definitely
get in the spirit and also give away tickets to
one of you lucky listeners.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And we wanted to do that to our friends at
the Valleydale, which is an incredible ballroom experience. There's so
many different events there, and the Christmas Dance is coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
London, Rick from the Valley Dale, which, by the way,
we just by talking to them a couple months ago,
found out that the Valleydale Ballroom is one of only
five ballrooms of its kind in the entire United States
of America and it's.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Right here in Columbus.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So London, Rick, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Thank you, Hi, Mindy, Hi, michaela.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Hii here, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It's a very active time today, I mean it always is,
but the holiday season, I can imagine, is just amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
There it is, and I'm so happy over the last
three years Valadale's progress now that some of the community
organizations are realizing that we're there, that we're very decorative,
that we want to not ever replace the Lazarus's window,
but it's a charming to come inside that you know,
it's Christmas here, it's not just an ornament here or there.
And so we have been so blessed to have the
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Women's Choir of Columbus. We've had the Singing Buckeyes last
night with their snowy show, two shows yesterday. We've had
the Abilities for their Christmas performance last year, so this
is what's really exciting. And we had a Coma which
is a Millaise Indian culture. They had their Christmas event
last Saturday, so their choir and their show. So it's
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really kind of fun taking out. The community knows to
come to us for these things.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And it's just us growing because if you think about it,
the Valadale Ballroom has been around for how many.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Years and one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
One hundred and six years, yes, having some of the
biggest names in the business from Dean Martin to Frank Sinatra,
so the biggest and the best and now it's like
it's a resurgence. You're bringing back the love of valley Dale.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I think so anyway, I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We're hoping to do that, right Rick, that's Ricks band.
Rix Band is wonderful. I feel like, yes, I've loved
valley Dale, but if we didn't have the Rick Barnetto
Big Band to bring that charm of what the Rick
what the real valley Dale was all about? Built in
the big band era, actually only before that, the Charleston era,
and then the big band took it on that with
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Rick's impact, it's pretty pretty remarkable to be there.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, Rick the band is getting ready for a big
show come next Friday, the Rick Brunetto Big Band Christmas
Show Dance. Tell us a little bit about what'll be
going on.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, it's a fabulous evening of a great Christmas music,
big band style, because all the arrange that we do
that night are in the big band style. And we
have four singers, four of our fabulous saying Mary Lee Belndez,
so you guys do so well, Michael Phillips, Laurie Everhart
and Ben Lucas. So throughout the night we present them,
they do their thing. The band does some instrumental things,
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and I've written a couple of new arrangements for them
this year. It's always a fabulous time.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Is it does really get you into the Christmas spirit?
And you brought a little sample.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Is this one of the new arrangements you're gonna do?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Well? This is not a Christmas song, but it's an
original song. Gives you a flavor of what the kind
of music we do swinging. So this actually song is
actually called it must be Thursday? And this was why
is that?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Rick?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Why not Friday?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
For thirty years we played at the ninety fourth Air
Squadron on Thursday nights, So it was written in on
of the people that come in to see us on
Thursday nights. And now it's still something we play now
and then. But it's an original song, and it's what
the band's all about.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And who wrote that original song?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
That was myself?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Shy, he's so shy and Mackay love these two.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So let's hear a sample of it and see what
this big band sound is all about.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
To go ahead, Chris.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And play it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
How many instruments are we listening to?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
How many people are in this band that were actually
here in seventeen beautiful seventeen.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Five saxophones, four trumpets, four trombones, piano, bassed, drums, and guitar.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And where do you find all these folks, Rick? And
how long have they been with you in the bands?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Well, the band's been around for forty one years, believe
it or not. It started when I was teaching at
Dennis and University. I was they had had a music
department for a while there, wow, But I was also
a director of the jazz ensemble. So my first year
directing the jazz ensemble nineteen eighty four, decided to start
a big band. And so initially it was with students
from the Dennis and Jazz Ensemble, which also had some
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community people as well. Then over the years it just
evolved into professional players. And so we have a lot
of graduates from Ohio State and Capitol University and different
schools around. A lot of current and former band directors
are with the band, and some you know, it's just
evolved in some of the finest musicians really in Columbus, Ohio.
So we're real proud of the band. I'm real proud
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of the things we are able to accomplish, and we
you know, having this place to play every Friday night
is a nice thing because you don't see many venues
that can hold a big band, and the Valadel was
built for that. So the music thrives there. And we
don't just do the big band sound. We do everything
from Frank Sinatra of Glenn Miller up to Whitney Houston.
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You know, we were just talking.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
About we were just talking about that and we.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Do that song. Talk about that famous beat you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, is it kind of off kilter because they put
it that as I standard, They put it there in
like an off way.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But you know, when nail it right.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We do. It's a it's a tricky little part because
there's there's all this silence. There's like seven counts of silence,
so all eighteen musicians have to count that and be
right on it. But I give them that big drum
cue and I love to do it because I hit
the drum as hard as I can, you know, and uh,
at that moment, you know, she she's singing you two
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three four one two three down.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And see the challenge.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
The challenge.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's in time, but you just but it's got a
lot of silence there, so you just wait for that
that great drummers. You live for that one moment to
hit that big drum beat. It's one note.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But you know, you know what, talk a little bit
about music itself, because we get into the Christmas spirit
through the lights that we see all around town when
the weather turns snowy as it is right now, all
the different and Christmas shows and specials. But really, what
does it for the majority of people is when you
hear that Christmas music? Why does music affect our emotions
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and all of us so much?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It can make us so sad and it can make
us so happy. Why music?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Well, you know, it's you know, the human creativity is
what produces music, of course, and there's so much Music
can evoke so many different emotions, as you just said,
and it helps us when we're sad to feel better.
Sometimes it's helped helps us to express our emotions when
we're sad. But it's something that's just so important. Part
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I think it's a God given thing to us your
soul really, and music is there's so many different styles
of music, and each generation has produced their own music
and it's just something for everyone. There's music just lifts
the spirit it just does that for all of us.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I've thought about that so many times myself, that particular question,
and being a visual artist paint as well as an
interior designer and all the different arts. I just feel
like the musician is the one. They've got almost the
secret connection with God and the soul and the spirit
because unlike anything else, it's themselves and that music. Even
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though it's a collective organization, it's still they have to perform.
If you're acting on stage and you miss align, somebody
can cover for you. It can't ever happen in music.
It's either there or it's not. And all the musicians
that I know, because I'm so blessed to know so
many from a little girl on up, there's just a
different quality in a musician than anyone else. There's just
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this spiritual connection when you sit and talk to them,
their sensitivity is unmatched.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I have a couple of thoughts out of this, Actually,
you guys have gone like to this direction that I
think about sometimes are some people more attuned to music
and to tones than others?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like does it make some people? And given the.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Fact, you know, like moves.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You, so I think music moves you, and we were
talking earlier about how you knew more Christmas songs.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Than maybe the people you were talking to.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
So are there are some people more attuned to how
music makes them feel? And Rick, I feel like you
were the chair of the music department at Dennis and
you did research. I'm sir, like, are some people you
know more moved by music than others?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Here?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I'm going thinking tone deaf because I feel like.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
It's an interesting question. I think some people have a
more affinity to to play music. There's there's certain amount
of a god given talent there. There's there's a certain
talent that some people have which is called perfect pitch.
That means they hear a hear a note and they
can identify it. You know, metal, C, A, B, C DFG,
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you know the notes of the scale and they can
tell you what that actual note is. And that's a
god given talent. And then their their ability to be
able to play music, I mean they learn it quicker,
they remember things quick. And I think some of the
courses is that you're influenced by your upgrooming, upbringing, in
your education. You know, in my family, my father owned
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a nightclub, so my brother and I used to go
down there on the weekends and sit in the back
room and listen to these musicians play standard jazz song.
So that was a big influence for us. It requires
a lot of listening to be a musician, obviously, that's
an important part of it. Listening and being influenced by
different people, but also developing your own sense of style
and your own voice in music.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
So something really interesting. Rick was again chairman of music
at Tennison and one of his students, he said he
would come home and talk about this particular woman and said,
she's marvelous. She's going to make it. She has everything
you need. Do you know who she is?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Who is she?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Jennifer Garner really was. She was a singer with his band. No,
she was not in college. Yes, he loved her and
you could tell that she was going place.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I remember we were rehearsing a song in the practice
room at Dennison and I said to her, you know
there's something about your voice and your your style and presentation.
You're going to be a big star someday. I said
that to her.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Do you still talk to her?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
She's just called two weeks.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
She just reached out because she came back. Didn't she Yeah,
she was back at Dennison.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So let me ask you this on that same before
we take a commercial break, because we have to do
that in a minute or two. But before, on that
same wavelength long that you talked about all the different
musicians that you've met, who has been your favorite and
then who has been your least Favoritely you're like, oh
my gosh, they just weren't very nice.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh this is some deep so okay, so my favorite.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Is this after the segment of now.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Are now, Yeah, let's let's what you want to think about.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, think about it, okay, and we will come back again.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We'll be giving away tickets.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, six one four eight two one nine eighty eight
six six one four eight two one.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
W t v N favorite Christmas song.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I think that would be a great call us. Tell
us your favorite Christmas song and get into tickets to
the Valley Dale for the big Christmas show. This is
what matters on sixten at WGVN and nine eighth six.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
If you want to win tickets to this Friday's Christmas
Dance at the Valley Dale. Before we get into the
details about that Christmas dance, all the deeds on it
We just asked you Landa, because you've dealt with musicians
your entire life.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Basically, who was the all.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Time favorite that you were so taken by? And then
the on the flip side of that, who were you like,
Oh my gosh, they were horrible.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So I'm going to give you the flip side first,
because there's a little history to get you into the
second one. Okay, my father, you may know or may not,
had a big band in town also and started he
really brought big bands back to really Coombus in the seventies. Yeah,
there was Chuck Selby. It was a ten piece ban
that's great, But my dad had that arrangement with the
fabulous forties. So understanding that, my dad was also hired
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at many places. One night he was hired at rivera
country club, the Italian Country Club, to play this wonderful
dance and they brought in Bobby Rydell, who was with
Bye Bye Bertie. Remember he was the love interest of
Bye Bye Bertie and he was a singer of his
own right. So Bobby Raydell was a big heart throb
in the fifties and sixties, so everybody was kind of
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excited to meet him and he was singing with my
dad's band. He had brought him in. So he was
truly the biggest jerk that ever was. He was rude
to my dad, to the musicians, to the club. He
just was so arrogant. Again being Italian, but he was
just arrogant. And he was such a like disappointment. My
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Dad's like, I can't stand him. I couldn't wait, and
he was he was. So that's the total disappointment, Bobby Rydell.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And when you meet someone like that, someone that you
idolize or that you can't wait to meet, it's such
a letdown because you're like, how can you be such
a jerk when you have so much, all these opportunities.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And he was so rude to everyone there, like cut
down this one and that one and.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Just uugh, was we to get it out of here.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We don't need that, we don't need that now. The
best one was again, I was brought up in a
big band environment as a little girl, to the point
that my dad hated that I love the Beatles. He
did not understand that. So there I am at a
dance at the Valley Dale nineteen eighty one, because in
nineteen eighty they tried to close Valleydale down, so this
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particular dance was a big deal to bring it back.
And so what this was it was September. Rick was
playing at the Christopher Inn. I was there with my
mom and my dad and my dad and many of
the musicians. Because the band that was playing was a
band that played at Valleydale in the early forties and
late thirties and then came back with this rejuvenation of Valleydale.
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It was Harry James. So Harry James and the Big Band.
Harry James was a phenomenal trumpet player. He was actually
a commercial artist for Chesterfield Cigarettes and he was married
to Lana Turner. So yeah, Betty Grable, Betty Gable. So
Harry James was one of the In fact, that's who
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Frank Sinatra for saying with Harry James with two years,
a year and a half before he went to go
with Tommy Dorsey. But Harry James. So I'm saying that
because I'm out in the audience. I have grown up
with Harry James's music. I know Harry James's music. I'm
out there dancing and the drummer on break from Harry
James came over and tapped me on the shoulder and said,
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excuse me, mister Harry James would like to meet you.
I go meet me. He goes, yes. Now, to think
about it, guys, everybody wants to meet people and they're clamoring.
I've never had an artist come to meet they wanted
to meet me. I'm out in the audience at that time.
I'm about twenty six years old, and I go back.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
To back in the picture.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
At this point, Rick was playing at the ninety four.
But oh we were married.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, Oh, you were married at twenty six.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I was married at twenty one. So he was playing
at the Christopher In Yeah, so I married a musician.
So six nights a week, I was by myself. You know,
I learned what it was like. You know, my whole
weekends were my dad playing, so my mom and I
when I watched the Miss America patchet together whatever. That's
just how our weekends were. So I get this that
I go backstage and I see Harry James, and I'm
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like mesmerized. It's like, this is the album covers that
I grew up with. I know my dad loved him,
and I'm like, mister James like, why do you want
to see me? He goes, I have a question for you,
young lady. Yes, mister James, he said, how do you
know my charts? He goes, you can lead my band
better than me. I've never seen anybody. He goes, you're
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popping and you're hitting, and you're hitting this, and you're
leading the band while you're dancing. He said, I've not
seen this in my entire life. He goes, I want
you to come on stage and lead my band. No,
and I said, mister James, I'll let my dad do it.
I will never do that. He goes, I want you
up here. I said no, I don't even take the
chance on flubbing up. So no, I said, do you
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want to meet my dad? And he goes, no, I
just want to talk to you more. So it was cool, Blonda,
you are.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
A great storyteller. Really.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
But here's the best part. Well that's the best part.
The best part had the end of the evening. The
drummer comes over to me again, taps me on the shoulder.
Didn't know that Rick was there, and he says, here
and he gives me his room key.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's why I asked.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm like, yeah, right, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So we already talked about that Michigan coach with people
in Power.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It was so funny, but no, no, no, but a.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Funny story, but what a neat story.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Though.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
He recognized how much you knew and loved.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And he wanted to talk to me. I mean he literally,
you know, as I said, when you want to meet
Paul McCartney, he's not going to sit there now, tell
me all about yourself, young lady. But he wanted to
talk to me, and I'm like, oh, so that was
my personal favorite.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
All right, well, talk of this Christmas dance. It's happening
this Friday. We need to get people there at the
Valley Dale. We're giving away tickets.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So all you have to do is call us up
at six one four, eight, two, one nine eighty six
and just simply tell us what's your favorite all time
Christmas song or Christmas Carol?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So fun so tell us, yes, what is this all about?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
What will people experience when they walk in the door.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
They're going to experience living in that Lazarus window because
the entire building is just decorated and the musicians, the music,
we have the four singers. We also have a couple surprises.
We have the sugar Foot Dancers from Swing Columbus. They're
going to be there doing really cool things, kind of
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the nineteen twenties Christmas spin.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh my gosh, how fun.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And then we also have from Fladabilities John Curtis, who
is going to be doing a tap dance with the band.
So no solo singers, he's the soloist, but he's tap dancing.
So yeah, I mean that's a little bit of fred
A Stair there. I'm the on steroids.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Love.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Its gotta be so fun. There's a few other days there.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yes, the situations are available.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
We have the Christmas Chocolate Tini. We've got hot in
eggnogs spiced or nut. We have always desserts, always sandwiches.
We always offer that every week and usually it's pies
from Just Pies. So we'll have probably the specialty pie
that they have for Christmas. So, yes, that's the kind
of the food.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
What's there, specialty tea pie from Christmas?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
There, there's Just Pie Place, Yes, is right behind my
home in Westerfield.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Baking all it's like Cheryl's Cookies. Cookies.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh my gosh. That's all I do is just smell great.
Things when I'm out walking the do It's like I
gain weight just by it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Because my design studio is in westerphil First, I'm like, oh,
I didn't know about twenty.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Four So what is this Christmas pie? It just pies?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I don't know. I haven't gone there yet to pick
it up. But every they have a seasonal. They have
a Halloween pie, and they have a Thanksgiving, and they'll
do a fourth of July and they'll do Valentine. So
they always have some seasonal.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
So it'll probably pepper flavor.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Peppermint, I'm sure be a peppermint, or it could be gingerbread.
They've done both.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know, I'm looking it up to see if they
have it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Okay, that's great, Tayla.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Buckeye pie is one of their top Oh it's so good.
It is so good.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And when we have that, banana cream is the number
one cellar at valley Dale. Just say, and when we
have that, it's gone. I have to buy two. I
even have schools of dance that come in and when
they're coming, I have to buy three or four pies
because they all want them.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But you know what's so wonderful and remarkable and awesome
is that you grew up basically at the Valley Dale.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Did you ever think you'd own it?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I would never. That was not even in my wildest.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's basically a dream come true.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It is. It was a dream I didn't know I had.
Sometimes those are the best. Because I started writing the
book about Vali Dale never ever intending to buy it.
I was just so sad that this building was kind
of depleting and it wasn't loved and nobody cared about it.
And I mean the people that had it loved it.
I'm talking about the community didn't care. And I just thought,
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this is going to go away some day. Nobody's going
to ever know the history. And so that was my
kind of drive, just to keep people knowing about this building.
Who knew after I finished the book that would be bye.
That's the crazy part that was not in the works.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So our producer Chris said, we had a phone caller
someone wanted to get these tickets, but they didn't want
to go on the air.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Chris, can you tell us who this.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Listener was who wanted to go Santa Claus?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Is it Santa I wanted?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They just didn't want to go on the air, but
they definitely want to go to the Christmas stands?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Chris, who was the caller?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
The caller was my mother.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh, of course she can come. Is she bringing you?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
She probably would bring a friend, not me.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Aren't you to her friend?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you answered that right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You know what, Chris, your mom has never won tickets
through our show yet, so I think this is a
great opportunity. How old is your mom?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh it's not truck question, you're her son.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Okay, I'll tell you what. We'll make it three tickets
so she can re use.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Tis this season for giving here on what matters.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's great. Give people the details again. When is the
Christmas dance? How much are tickets if they want to go?
Since they didn't were able to win them to get
Christmas moment?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
This Friday November or sorry December. The nineteenth tickets are
twenty dollars. A vision at the door and I say
the band starts at seven thirty. We're going to play
till ten thirty that night. Normally we only play ten.
I'm doing an extra half hour. Four fabulous singers that
I mentioned earlier, Marylyn Melandez, Ben Lucas, Michael Michael Phillips.
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So it's just a great night all Christmas music all
night long, big band style and dancing and some snacks
and food and a wonderful.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's awesome, sounds like the holidays, sounds wonderful. Thank you
all for coming in. Tell everybody website again one more time.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Ww dot Valleydale Ballroom dot com. We also have a
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both of them up WW Valleydale Ballroom dot com and London.
Thank you guys so much for letting us be one
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Speaker 2 (23:23):
We love having you guys in studio.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
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Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I don't know if we have a married couple
come in like these guys, they just now lighten up
our studio.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
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This is what matters on six' TEN wtvn
So the first hour of the show, it was kind
of heavy. It was kind of deep, but it's what
everybody was talking about. But we're going to lighten things
up because how many days until Christmas?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Now? What are we on?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
A love eleven?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
I just changed over my little cander. Yeah, my little calendar.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All calendars are so fun to follow.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So eleven days of Christmas, we thought we would definitely
get in the spirit and also give away tickets to
one of you lucky listeners.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And we wanted to do that to our friends at
the Valleydale, which is an incredible ballroom experience. There's so
many different events there, and the Christmas Dance is coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
London, Rick from the Valley Dale, which, by the way,
we just by talking to them a couple months ago,
found out that the Valleydale Ballroom is one of only
five ballrooms of its kind in the entire United States
of America and it's.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Right here in Columbus.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So London, Rick, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Thank you, Hi, Mindy, Hi, michaela.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Hii here, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It's a very active time today, I mean it always is,
but the holiday season, I can imagine, is just amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
There it is, and I'm so happy over the last
three years Valadale's progress now that some of the community
organizations are realizing that we're there, that we're very decorative,
that we want to not ever replace the Lazarus's window,
but it's a charming to come inside that you know,
it's Christmas here, it's not just an ornament here or there.
And so we have been so blessed to have the
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Women's Choir of Columbus. We've had the Singing Buckeyes last
night with their snowy show, two shows yesterday. We've had
the Abilities for their Christmas performance last year, so this
is what's really exciting. And we had a Coma which
is a Millaise Indian culture. They had their Christmas event
last Saturday, so their choir and their show. So it's
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really kind of fun taking out. The community knows to
come to us for these things.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And it's just us growing because if you think about it,
the Valadale Ballroom has been around for how many.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Years and one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
One hundred and six years, yes, having some of the
biggest names in the business from Dean Martin to Frank Sinatra,
so the biggest and the best and now it's like
it's a resurgence. You're bringing back the love of valley Dale.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I think so anyway, I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We're hoping to do that, right Rick, that's Ricks band.
Rix Band is wonderful. I feel like, yes, I've loved
valley Dale, but if we didn't have the Rick Barnetto
Big Band to bring that charm of what the Rick
what the real valley Dale was all about? Built in
the big band era, actually only before that, the Charleston era,
and then the big band took it on that with
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Rick's impact, it's pretty pretty remarkable to be there.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, Rick the band is getting ready for a big
show come next Friday, the Rick Brunetto Big Band Christmas
Show Dance. Tell us a little bit about what'll be
going on.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, it's a fabulous evening of a great Christmas music,
big band style, because all the arrange that we do
that night are in the big band style. And we
have four singers, four of our fabulous saying Mary Lee Belndez,
so you guys do so well, Michael Phillips, Laurie Everhart
and Ben Lucas. So throughout the night we present them,
they do their thing. The band does some instrumental things,
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and I've written a couple of new arrangements for them
this year. It's always a fabulous time.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Is it does really get you into the Christmas spirit?
And you brought a little sample.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Is this one of the new arrangements you're gonna do?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Well? This is not a Christmas song, but it's an
original song. Gives you a flavor of what the kind
of music we do swinging. So this actually song is
actually called it must be Thursday? And this was why
is that?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Rick?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Why not Friday?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
For thirty years we played at the ninety fourth Air
Squadron on Thursday nights, So it was written in on
of the people that come in to see us on
Thursday nights. And now it's still something we play now
and then. But it's an original song, and it's what
the band's all about.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And who wrote that original song?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
That was myself?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Shy, he's so shy and Mackay love these two.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So let's hear a sample of it and see what
this big band sound is all about.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
To go ahead, Chris.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And play it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
How many instruments are we listening to?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
How many people are in this band that were actually
here in seventeen beautiful seventeen.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Five saxophones, four trumpets, four trombones, piano, bassed, drums, and guitar.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And where do you find all these folks, Rick? And
how long have they been with you in the bands?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Well, the band's been around for forty one years, believe
it or not. It started when I was teaching at
Dennis and University. I was they had had a music
department for a while there, wow, But I was also
a director of the jazz ensemble. So my first year
directing the jazz ensemble nineteen eighty four, decided to start
a big band. And so initially it was with students
from the Dennis and Jazz Ensemble, which also had some
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community people as well. Then over the years it just
evolved into professional players. And so we have a lot
of graduates from Ohio State and Capitol University and different
schools around. A lot of current and former band directors
are with the band, and some you know, it's just
evolved in some of the finest musicians really in Columbus, Ohio.
So we're real proud of the band. I'm real proud
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of the things we are able to accomplish, and we
you know, having this place to play every Friday night
is a nice thing because you don't see many venues
that can hold a big band, and the Valadel was
built for that. So the music thrives there. And we
don't just do the big band sound. We do everything
from Frank Sinatra of Glenn Miller up to Whitney Houston.
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You know, we were just talking.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
About we were just talking about that and we.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Do that song. Talk about that famous beat you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, is it kind of off kilter because they put
it that as I standard, They put it there in
like an off way.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But you know, when nail it right.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We do. It's a it's a tricky little part because
there's there's all this silence. There's like seven counts of silence,
so all eighteen musicians have to count that and be
right on it. But I give them that big drum
cue and I love to do it because I hit
the drum as hard as I can, you know, and uh,
at that moment, you know, she she's singing you two
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three four one two three down.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And see the challenge.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
The challenge.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's in time, but you just but it's got a
lot of silence there, so you just wait for that
that great drummers. You live for that one moment to
hit that big drum beat. It's one note.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But you know, you know what, talk a little bit
about music itself, because we get into the Christmas spirit
through the lights that we see all around town when
the weather turns snowy as it is right now, all
the different and Christmas shows and specials. But really, what
does it for the majority of people is when you
hear that Christmas music? Why does music affect our emotions
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and all of us so much?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It can make us so sad and it can make
us so happy. Why music?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Well, you know, it's you know, the human creativity is
what produces music, of course, and there's so much Music
can evoke so many different emotions, as you just said,
and it helps us when we're sad to feel better.
Sometimes it's helped helps us to express our emotions when
we're sad. But it's something that's just so important. Part
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I think it's a God given thing to us your
soul really, and music is there's so many different styles
of music, and each generation has produced their own music
and it's just something for everyone. There's music just lifts
the spirit it just does that for all of us.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I've thought about that so many times myself, that particular question,
and being a visual artist paint as well as an
interior designer and all the different arts. I just feel
like the musician is the one. They've got almost the
secret connection with God and the soul and the spirit
because unlike anything else, it's themselves and that music. Even
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though it's a collective organization, it's still they have to perform.
If you're acting on stage and you miss align, somebody
can cover for you. It can't ever happen in music.
It's either there or it's not. And all the musicians
that I know, because I'm so blessed to know so
many from a little girl on up, there's just a
different quality in a musician than anyone else. There's just
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this spiritual connection when you sit and talk to them,
their sensitivity is unmatched.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I have a couple of thoughts out of this, Actually,
you guys have gone like to this direction that I
think about sometimes are some people more attuned to music
and to tones than others?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like does it make some people? And given the.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Fact, you know, like moves.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You, so I think music moves you, and we were
talking earlier about how you knew more Christmas songs.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Than maybe the people you were talking to.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
So are there are some people more attuned to how
music makes them feel? And Rick, I feel like you
were the chair of the music department at Dennis and
you did research. I'm sir, like, are some people you
know more moved by music than others?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Here?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I'm going thinking tone deaf because I feel like.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
It's an interesting question. I think some people have a
more affinity to to play music. There's there's certain amount
of a god given talent there. There's there's a certain
talent that some people have which is called perfect pitch.
That means they hear a hear a note and they
can identify it. You know, metal, C, A, B, C DFG,
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you know the notes of the scale and they can
tell you what that actual note is. And that's a
god given talent. And then their their ability to be
able to play music, I mean they learn it quicker,
they remember things quick. And I think some of the
courses is that you're influenced by your upgrooming, upbringing, in
your education. You know, in my family, my father owned
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a nightclub, so my brother and I used to go
down there on the weekends and sit in the back
room and listen to these musicians play standard jazz song.
So that was a big influence for us. It requires
a lot of listening to be a musician, obviously, that's
an important part of it. Listening and being influenced by
different people, but also developing your own sense of style
and your own voice in music.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
So something really interesting. Rick was again chairman of music
at Tennison and one of his students, he said he
would come home and talk about this particular woman and said,
she's marvelous. She's going to make it. She has everything
you need. Do you know who she is?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Who is she?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Jennifer Garner really was. She was a singer with his band. No,
she was not in college. Yes, he loved her and
you could tell that she was going place.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I remember we were rehearsing a song in the practice
room at Dennison and I said to her, you know
there's something about your voice and your your style and presentation.
You're going to be a big star someday. I said
that to her.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Do you still talk to her?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
She's just called two weeks.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
She just reached out because she came back. Didn't she Yeah,
she was back at Dennison.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So let me ask you this on that same before
we take a commercial break, because we have to do
that in a minute or two. But before, on that
same wavelength long that you talked about all the different
musicians that you've met, who has been your favorite and
then who has been your least Favoritely you're like, oh
my gosh, they just weren't very nice.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh this is some deep so okay, so my favorite.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Is this after the segment of now.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Are now, Yeah, let's let's what you want to think about.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, think about it, okay, and we will come back again.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We'll be giving away tickets.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, six one four eight two one nine eighty eight
six six one four eight two one.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
W t v N favorite Christmas song.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I think that would be a great call us. Tell
us your favorite Christmas song and get into tickets to
the Valley Dale for the big Christmas show. This is
what matters on sixten at WGVN and nine eighth six.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
If you want to win tickets to this Friday's Christmas
Dance at the Valley Dale. Before we get into the
details about that Christmas dance, all the deeds on it
We just asked you Landa, because you've dealt with musicians
your entire life.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Basically, who was the all.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Time favorite that you were so taken by? And then
the on the flip side of that, who were you like,
Oh my gosh, they were horrible.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So I'm going to give you the flip side first,
because there's a little history to get you into the
second one. Okay, my father, you may know or may not,
had a big band in town also and started he
really brought big bands back to really Coombus in the seventies. Yeah,
there was Chuck Selby. It was a ten piece ban
that's great, But my dad had that arrangement with the
fabulous forties. So understanding that, my dad was also hired
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at many places. One night he was hired at rivera
country club, the Italian Country Club, to play this wonderful
dance and they brought in Bobby Rydell, who was with
Bye Bye Bertie. Remember he was the love interest of
Bye Bye Bertie and he was a singer of his
own right. So Bobby Raydell was a big heart throb
in the fifties and sixties, so everybody was kind of
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excited to meet him and he was singing with my
dad's band. He had brought him in. So he was
truly the biggest jerk that ever was. He was rude
to my dad, to the musicians, to the club. He
just was so arrogant. Again being Italian, but he was
just arrogant. And he was such a like disappointment. My
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Dad's like, I can't stand him. I couldn't wait, and
he was he was. So that's the total disappointment, Bobby Rydell.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And when you meet someone like that, someone that you
idolize or that you can't wait to meet, it's such
a letdown because you're like, how can you be such
a jerk when you have so much, all these opportunities.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And he was so rude to everyone there, like cut
down this one and that one and.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Just uugh, was we to get it out of here.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We don't need that, we don't need that now. The
best one was again, I was brought up in a
big band environment as a little girl, to the point
that my dad hated that I love the Beatles. He
did not understand that. So there I am at a
dance at the Valley Dale nineteen eighty one, because in
nineteen eighty they tried to close Valleydale down, so this
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particular dance was a big deal to bring it back.
And so what this was it was September. Rick was
playing at the Christopher Inn. I was there with my
mom and my dad and my dad and many of
the musicians. Because the band that was playing was a
band that played at Valleydale in the early forties and
late thirties and then came back with this rejuvenation of Valleydale.
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It was Harry James. So Harry James and the Big Band.
Harry James was a phenomenal trumpet player. He was actually
a commercial artist for Chesterfield Cigarettes and he was married
to Lana Turner. So yeah, Betty Grable, Betty Gable. So
Harry James was one of the In fact, that's who
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Frank Sinatra for saying with Harry James with two years,
a year and a half before he went to go
with Tommy Dorsey. But Harry James. So I'm saying that
because I'm out in the audience. I have grown up
with Harry James's music. I know Harry James's music. I'm
out there dancing and the drummer on break from Harry
James came over and tapped me on the shoulder and said,
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excuse me, mister Harry James would like to meet you.
I go meet me. He goes, yes. Now, to think
about it, guys, everybody wants to meet people and they're clamoring.
I've never had an artist come to meet they wanted
to meet me. I'm out in the audience at that time.
I'm about twenty six years old, and I go back.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
To back in the picture.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
At this point, Rick was playing at the ninety four.
But oh we were married.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, Oh, you were married at twenty six.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I was married at twenty one. So he was playing
at the Christopher In Yeah, so I married a musician.
So six nights a week, I was by myself. You know,
I learned what it was like. You know, my whole
weekends were my dad playing, so my mom and I
when I watched the Miss America patchet together whatever. That's
just how our weekends were. So I get this that
I go backstage and I see Harry James, and I'm
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like mesmerized. It's like, this is the album covers that
I grew up with. I know my dad loved him,
and I'm like, mister James like, why do you want
to see me? He goes, I have a question for you,
young lady. Yes, mister James, he said, how do you
know my charts? He goes, you can lead my band
better than me. I've never seen anybody. He goes, you're
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popping and you're hitting, and you're hitting this, and you're
leading the band while you're dancing. He said, I've not
seen this in my entire life. He goes, I want
you to come on stage and lead my band. No,
and I said, mister James, I'll let my dad do it.
I will never do that. He goes, I want you
up here. I said no, I don't even take the
chance on flubbing up. So no, I said, do you
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want to meet my dad? And he goes, no, I
just want to talk to you more. So it was cool, Blonda,
you are.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
A great storyteller. Really.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
But here's the best part. Well that's the best part.
The best part had the end of the evening. The
drummer comes over to me again, taps me on the shoulder.
Didn't know that Rick was there, and he says, here
and he gives me his room key.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's why I asked.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm like, yeah, right, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So we already talked about that Michigan coach with people
in Power.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It was so funny, but no, no, no, but a.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Funny story, but what a neat story.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Though.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
He recognized how much you knew and loved.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And he wanted to talk to me. I mean he literally,
you know, as I said, when you want to meet
Paul McCartney, he's not going to sit there now, tell
me all about yourself, young lady. But he wanted to
talk to me, and I'm like, oh, so that was
my personal favorite.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
All right, well, talk of this Christmas dance. It's happening
this Friday. We need to get people there at the
Valley Dale. We're giving away tickets.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So all you have to do is call us up
at six one four, eight, two, one nine eighty six
and just simply tell us what's your favorite all time
Christmas song or Christmas Carol?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So fun so tell us, yes, what is this all about?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
What will people experience when they walk in the door.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
They're going to experience living in that Lazarus window because
the entire building is just decorated and the musicians, the music,
we have the four singers. We also have a couple surprises.
We have the sugar Foot Dancers from Swing Columbus. They're
going to be there doing really cool things, kind of
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the nineteen twenties Christmas spin.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh my gosh, how fun.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And then we also have from Fladabilities John Curtis, who
is going to be doing a tap dance with the band.
So no solo singers, he's the soloist, but he's tap dancing.
So yeah, I mean that's a little bit of fred
A Stair there. I'm the on steroids.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Love.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Its gotta be so fun. There's a few other days there.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yes, the situations are available.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
We have the Christmas Chocolate Tini. We've got hot in
eggnogs spiced or nut. We have always desserts, always sandwiches.
We always offer that every week and usually it's pies
from Just Pies. So we'll have probably the specialty pie
that they have for Christmas. So, yes, that's the kind
of the food.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
What's there, specialty tea pie from Christmas?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
There, there's Just Pie Place, Yes, is right behind my
home in Westerfield.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Baking all it's like Cheryl's Cookies. Cookies.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh my gosh. That's all I do is just smell great.
Things when I'm out walking the do It's like I
gain weight just by it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Because my design studio is in westerphil First, I'm like, oh,
I didn't know about twenty.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Four So what is this Christmas pie? It just pies?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I don't know. I haven't gone there yet to pick
it up. But every they have a seasonal. They have
a Halloween pie, and they have a Thanksgiving, and they'll
do a fourth of July and they'll do Valentine. So
they always have some seasonal.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
So it'll probably pepper flavor.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Peppermint, I'm sure be a peppermint, or it could be gingerbread.
They've done both.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know, I'm looking it up to see if they
have it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Okay, that's great, Tayla.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Buckeye pie is one of their top Oh it's so good.
It is so good.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And when we have that, banana cream is the number
one cellar at valley Dale. Just say, and when we
have that, it's gone. I have to buy two. I
even have schools of dance that come in and when
they're coming, I have to buy three or four pies
because they all want them.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But you know what's so wonderful and remarkable and awesome
is that you grew up basically at the Valley Dale.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Did you ever think you'd own it?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I would never. That was not even in my wildest.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's basically a dream come true.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It is. It was a dream I didn't know I had.
Sometimes those are the best. Because I started writing the
book about Vali Dale never ever intending to buy it.
I was just so sad that this building was kind
of depleting and it wasn't loved and nobody cared about it.
And I mean the people that had it loved it.
I'm talking about the community didn't care. And I just thought,
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this is going to go away some day. Nobody's going
to ever know the history. And so that was my
kind of drive, just to keep people knowing about this building.
Who knew after I finished the book that would be bye.
That's the crazy part that was not in the works.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So our producer Chris said, we had a phone caller
someone wanted to get these tickets, but they didn't want
to go on the air.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Chris, can you tell us who this.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Listener was who wanted to go Santa Claus?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Is it Santa I wanted?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They just didn't want to go on the air, but
they definitely want to go to the Christmas stands?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Chris, who was the caller?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
The caller was my mother.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh, of course she can come. Is she bringing you?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
She probably would bring a friend, not me.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Aren't you to her friend?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you answered that right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You know what, Chris, your mom has never won tickets
through our show yet, so I think this is a
great opportunity. How old is your mom?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh it's not truck question, you're her son.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Okay, I'll tell you what. We'll make it three tickets
so she can re use.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Tis this season for giving here on what matters.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's great. Give people the details again. When is the
Christmas dance? How much are tickets if they want to go?
Since they didn't were able to win them to get
Christmas moment?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
This Friday November or sorry December. The nineteenth tickets are
twenty dollars. A vision at the door and I say
the band starts at seven thirty. We're going to play
till ten thirty that night. Normally we only play ten.
I'm doing an extra half hour. Four fabulous singers that
I mentioned earlier, Marylyn Melandez, Ben Lucas, Michael Michael Phillips.
(22:54):
So it's just a great night all Christmas music all
night long, big band style and dancing and some snacks
and food and a wonderful.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's awesome, sounds like the holidays, sounds wonderful. Thank you
all for coming in. Tell everybody website again one more time.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Ww dot Valleydale Ballroom dot com. We also have a
fabulous New Year's Eve show so dinner dance there. Look
both of them up WW Valleydale Ballroom dot com and London.
Thank you guys so much for letting us be one
of your your people.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We love having you guys in studio.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
The Valleydale Matters. Wow. I love that it does.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I don't know if we have a married couple
come in like these guys, they just now lighten up
our studio.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Really, you're bringing joy today, Bring joys.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Merry Christmas, guys, go buy Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Go Bucks.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
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