Local Inventories from Foundation and Tri City Cycles and Livernois Motor sports

Local Inventories from Foundation and Tri City Cycles and Livernois Motor sports

Episode Transcript

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See as garage. Willie Bee's garageis now opening. What up you guys
would be as garage. Welcome toan awesome Saturday morning, Ah, I
think, so spend a little timewith us. Mike Pettiford in the house,
go for the number four, gofor it services, always tuning people
up behind the wheel. He drovehis fancy car in the day, which

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is so funny. I was tellinghim when I got here, I almost
and it was like, it's oneof those things where it was warm as
hell yesterday. So the snow onthe ice melted and it made my exit
out of the you know, outof my set division just muddy as hell.
But I just took my charger,my sixty nine charger, my little

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street car hot ride. I tookit to Parker the day and now he's
uh. I was like, man, I should drive it Saturday up up
to the Railo stations because Mike's neverseen it. He would probably he'd probably
freak out on it. This isold school sixty nine charger. But it's
rowdy five two, you know,it's like a thousand horsepower, you know,
and it's wide and the tires arefat. Oh dude, Yeah,

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it's old school. It's it's acool little it's cool little school hot run
for sure. I can't. Youcan't take it through the mud, no,
man, no, no, youcan't do that. When I got
out earlier, because I run aroundwith with slicks. You know, I
run around with like full on,like slicks. Well yours, yours aren't
even dot. My hoosiers are dotand they're sticky, So they're really slicks,

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I know. They just they looklike they identify a slick. Yeah,
they identify it. So mine areal street up straight. Anyway,
I've run around those all the time. I don't think anything of it,
Yeah, because I could tear beup good rinses, like just like street
tires. It doesn't matter. Ican just creep an email an hour and
just rip it. But slicks,you know, you want a little bite.

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So I run around those. ButI don't care about driving those stations
anyway. It's always fun because it'sit's old school. But it's it's way
rowdy, cool and just you know, a lot of noise. And you
know, I'm sure people when theysee that car, they lose their mind,
they freak out, they lose theirmind. Yeah, sure, because

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it's you know, it's a freakingsixty nine Dodge Chargers god awfully loud and
ratchet powerful, just rap. It'sgot a full interior. It's gonna race
console looing thing and at homemade.So it's a ratchet shifter. It's not
a it's not a manual, it'sa It does have a really well built

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three speed transmission. But it alsohas a gear of Vendorsina on it,
which allows me to you know,run the gears I got in it.
You still, you know, geton the highway and be like, I'm
not out of gear yet, bitchme. But it's just a real rowty
cool on car, so you know, you can eat. But he brought
a zero six fancy car in andI almost, man almost was like ah,

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but it was just a little toomuddy. It was too warm,
too early, you know. Anyway, Uh, hey, let's for you
day in the garage show. Wehave uh we have a little inventory discussion.
Uh it's gonna happen in a minute. And by inventory I mean I'm
gonna talk to a couple of dealershipstoday and find out I'll tell you this,

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if you can't afford a home rightnow, because who can you look
at investments that are smart, youlook at investments that you know there's a
certain fun factor in too. Youknow, you got admit, right now,
we're kind of at the crescendo ofa modern muscle you know, you
got all these you know, limitsand limitations and you know, uh laws

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basically about when a lot of thesemanufacturers have you know, they put pen
to paper. All right, we'regonna be all ev by this time,
by this time, that's coming quick. I still don't believe it. Yeah,
you know, I there's there's alwaysgoing to be some out there,
you know, forge kind of pivotedto that. You know, we're always
going to have a va you toknow, mostang, Yeah, but their

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whole business model is pivoted towards towardselectric and then they are they having a
knee jerk reaction back towards ice.So now they're highlighting some of that.
But you know, investment wise,fun wise instead of real estate, you
can't go wrong with with because youknow, honestly, some of these cars
modern muscle cars, but they costso much as the house did back in

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the day. However, man,there's a lot of there's a lot of
reasons to look at it. SoI just want to get an inventory count,
Like how difficult is it to geta new Z six, How difficult
is it to you know, finda modern muscle Camaro or maybe you're into
some of the new badass callacs,or maybe you're looking for you know,
some everybody knows Mopar has said thatthey're going all electric into this year.

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So it's crazy, so believe it. Yeah, that's hard to believe,
especially I know they they've done soall those commercials. You know, well,
you know you know the reason behindthat is because what they get as
far as penalties and taxes because somuch of their fleet, yeah, is

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is a gascuz or tax. Theyget hit like a billion dollars in taxes
every year, and it you know, it's just not a viable business model
after a while, especially with theyou know ZEV and REV the rules and
laws that are coming down the pipe. So anyway, we're gonna get in
a little bit of inventory talk.I still cover the first forty five fifty

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minutes. Uh. Then on topof the uh the ten am hour,
we got Dan from Libnoi Motorsports conus. Uh. There they take all
that modern muscle and turn it up, I mean way up. So it's
gonna be cool to have him onuh talking shop as well. So let's
take a break. We'll get intoit. Man, looking forward to it.
Want to nine KVP I Willy Bee'sgarage. You're back in Williebe's garage.

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What is welcome to your Saturday morning? Man? Will we be his
garage? All comes fired up?We get a great weekend, obviously,
a good weekend, first one ina while where you could actually take out
you know, the sweet rides,the motorcycles, the hot rides. Yeah,
man, and really enjoy it.We're gonna have Jason on a little
bit later from Tri City telling usabout some of the cool some of the

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cool things going on in motorcycles thisyear. Some of cool, fast,
you know kind of rides are beingoffered. I love some of the Yamaha
stuff. So we'll definitely talk somesome shot with him. My man,
Chad is gonna come on now fromthe Foundation Auto Group. I want to
catch everybody up on the inventory becauseas we kind of like way I mentioned

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a minute ago, as we lookthis crescendo of modern muscling performance and everybody's
pivoting or trying to figure out thatpivot towards electric. And there's some rules
and laws that come and play,and you know, some crazy kids nonsense
driving it. So all kinds ofweird stuff happening in the auto industry.
But inventory, because let's be honest, inventory has been slacking. It's not

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like it was years ago when youjust roll up, walk into a dealership
and be like, yo, Isee you have three corvettes here in black,
two in blue, and one inred. Let's see one leather ones
manual. You had a lot ofoptions. Well, nowadays that's not always
the case. So let's get caughtup on what the inventory is like nowadays.

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Chad, what up? Killer?Welcome the show man. How are
you doing any day? How youguys doing. We're killing it, man,
We're having a blast. Finally adecent Saturday, a decent weekend to
talk, some shop and have somefun. I agree to come drive a
corvette. I agree? Yeah.Man. You know Mike drove his corvette
in. He rode in on theflex this morning. Dude, he got

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out his because you know, Mikedon't ever wear anything but a polo shirt,
and he got out with a matchingpolo shirt the color of Corvette.
Who does that? Mike? Mikedoes that? I'm like that is his?
Like they both matched up, Like, Man, he's got it.
Who excess rises polo shirts with Corvette? You're trying to style and your buddy,

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your buddy put you down. Whatcan you say? No, Man,
that's a flex I just don't have. Man, I can't do it
like that. That's amazing. That'sa new balanced, bro got the new
balance. So chatman. Hey,when it comes to mindern performance, damn,

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there is so many cool offerings nowadays, and it's you know, hey,
it's gotta be sort of a afeather in the cap of Chevrolet because
they're always on top. When youhave that conversation, you know, you
look at this new Corvette. Goodgod, that is a powerhouse of a
vehicle. That is you know,it's crazy, but it's affordable. And

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that's what makes this car such agreat investment for so many people. It
really is. And I know meand might give you to the trouble.
We can tell you that car isnot a Corvette. I mean it is
a Ferrari, a Lamba I meanyeah, Lambeau, Lambeau, Yeah,

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more Lambo than Ferrari, I wouldsay, as far as I would agree.
Yeah, but you've been driving Corvettefor a super long time, Mike.
You know everyone inside and out.I've put them to the to the
test at their highest level. Andhave you ever driven one that off the
showroom floor? Is a Z sixnever never the same. But as I'm

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saying on the program many times,my affection is still the ZR one twenty
nineteen. That's the that's the macdaddy of all the Corvettes ever. Yeah,
everybody does because it was such aunique and badass offering and killer yeah,
and one of your only car whichkept production numbers way down. But

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you got mit, man, youthat car that they put out, that
mid engine offering in that C eight, like you know C seven. Look
at all the forums, the peoplethat you know road course racing those times
the front tires were sacrificial. Man. Uh. Every every time you went
out on the track, you werejust like, I throw them in the
fire man, We're done after theday. Oh dude, come on you,

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I know you're gonna sit here inthis claim driver this driver that.
But that one of the bad thingsabout the car, notably was the was
how it chewed up front tires andall the forums and all the racing.
Like I know, I've been aroundthe business enough to know that was a
severe issue with that complain about thatcar. But you look at but it

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still had all kinds of performance andyou know it is what it is.
Blah blah, it's a great car. I'm just saying there were notable.
They chewed up front tires. Thatwas one of the things that you'd always
hear about. Now, this newplatform with the mid engine allowed them to
lower the CG to get the balanceof the car where it's so much better

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for cornering and for road courses.And dude, imagine nowadays when you get
in that new Z six and whatevercomes after it. It's such the few
that I've been able to drive,and I drove one at Foundation. Actually,
what you add those things are spaceships. Man, They're so crazy cool.

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You have so much computer assist onit that it is just Man,
it's hard not to have just ablast every time you get in that car.
Like, how do you not havea ticket every time you drive that
car to and from work to thegrocery store? Like this is the problem
everybody bitches about people doing one hundredfifty miles an hour. But they make

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cars like this where you sneeze onthem and you're doing one hundred and fifty
and four gear and you still gota few more left. It's like crazy
kids are jumping out of the wayin school zones. You know that card
talks to you, man, Ittells you to go back. Its it
sits there, and just the soundof it and the way it feels it
does definitely go Just go faster,man, just go. Yeah, you're

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in a race car and look,just just for the record, I had
never done one hundred and fifty milesan hour of school zone. I don't
know why he's taking the worst casescenario, and I guess some trash like
that. But you know what Imean, if you got you if you
got a stretch of I seventy outpast linemen at you know, one am
on a Sunday night and you seenot another headlight in six miles. Uh

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yeah, man, I let thatbitch eat. So it's gotta be for
you guys. Man, Is isthis something as hard to keep as far
as inventory or is it? How'sit different over the last couple of years
because you used to have a lotof these offerings. What is inventory like
now? And tell me about thestory of the Camaro. What's left for

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it? Well, I mean,what exciting about Chevy. We actually have
some inventory because we want in bigChevy stores. So I get a little
bit spoiled. But it's still myfavorite thing. I mean, ordering cars
every Friday is for the most part, is that what you do you order
cars on a Friday. You gotusually Thursday and Friday. I get allocations

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and we'll we'll sit down and wegot it. We've got what we know
we need to fill, but Iget it. The only time I get
excited in that process is when Isee, ooh we gotta vet this weekend.
Ooh we got a we got aCamaro. Right, oh, we
got a black wing. And Ican actually sit there and build with a
cool car, right And there's differentcolored calipers and seats and this, and
it's already a something that someone's goingto pride in and and love drive in

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every day. So that's fun.When you got you know, GM's got
three cars that are six fifty horsepower plus I don't know, Zeo six
seventy. They got a zero oneCamaro that's six fifty and then you've got
a Padalac luxury car with six sixtyeight black? Can Can you still get

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the ZL one Camaro? I believeI have a couple still in down trying
to get built. You have aone L E. I do have a
one L. I think I thinkwe might. Here's a crazy thing I
just got in. I am,like I said, one of the biggest
corvettelers. I have four vets thatjust hit in the last week, and

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one of them is a ZO six. Whoa with page It does have the
ZO seven everything. It even hasthe carbon on it. Oh, yeah,
it is the right car, whitewhite with black carbon. Yeah,
it's my birthday is coming. Myfiftieth birthday's coming next week. I'm trying
to talk the wife into it.There. Good look at that conversation,

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Willy. Maybe down there later ontoday, Buddy, I can't afford it.
Man radio. Hey, so letme ask you. That's crazy.
Four corvettes. That's uh in whatI'm being that that's a big time option
on the Camaro. You guys don'tunderstand bang for a buck and and production
numbers. You cannot And look,I'm a Mopar fan. Saying this,

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you cannot beat that Z one Camaro. Yeah, yeah, that's the one.
Like that car is righteous in everyin every discipline you throw it at.
It cans straight, get down,whether it's you know, dig races,
road races. That's a worthy contenderof a car. And this is

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what I'm saying, you can't beatmodern muscle I mean, despite the fact
that eighty sixty nine Camaros seven,you know, seventy two Camaros, whatever
it may be, they're always gonnalook cool. But you put this modern
drive trade in them, it isso different. But the modern muscle man
is undeniable. The performance, thepower, and the driveability is just so

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awesome. So this was these aregreat investments and that Kamarow is a worthy
worthy investment. Tell me a littlebit more about those before we let you
go. Well, on top ofthat, way, you forgot they're an
everyday driver too. Yeah, yeahright, They're an affordable everyday driver as

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much as any other car, normalcar to maintain, and you've got a
race car that you're driving around that'sdocile. It is so docile when you're
just driving a to B, butwhen you need it to eat man,
to lay your foot in it,and that thing can dance. Dude can
get down. And sadly the tenspeed is faster than the manual. It

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is it is. We have thatargument. We have the same thing in
the in the seats inside Blackling thatthe manual is is slower than the automatic
ten seed. But yeah, peoplestill like to shift, and I get
it. Next year to the cara little more so. Number wise,

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how many Camaros do you guys haveor at I think we've got well maybe
two still still inbound. That arethey done this year with Kamaro? They
are done. I hope they don'tbring it back. I'm not gonna lie
as like an electric or something thecase exactly right. I just I pray

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that that's not a thing down theroad. But other than that, they'll
bring it back at some point,I'm sure. But for now those cars
have gone up and down or heldevery penny of it. Yeah, look
when he says hold every penny isno joke. You buy one of these
cars today, you know whatever,even with the interest rate, you hold

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onto that car. And here's what'sgreat about modern muscle. There's really there's
there's the guys that there's two ofthese collectors. There's the guys that will
buy these cars, shove it inthe corner, and a car never has
any miles on it. If youcan keep if you can keep these modern
muscle cars under four thousands, likethe you know, technically five thousand is
the number. If you have fourthousand, it starts going down. Five

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thousand tends to be there. Ifyou're gonna put five thousand and one miles
on it, you might as wellput eighty miles on it and enjoy it.
The price difference in what they're gettingfrom the people. Take good care,
I mean, take good care ofit. But you can drive these
modern cars, put a lot ofmiles on them, put fifty sixty thousand
miles on them, enjoy them.And as long as you are keeping a

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record of it, as long asyou're maintaining it like it should be,
dude, these cars are still holdingtheir value almost as hard as this guy
that refuses to drive it. Hesticks in the corner and he's got you
know, three and twenty miles onit no more. You know, he's
trying to keep it under that fivefive thousand mile threshold. So there's not

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that big of a differentiation on whatthey're bringing in the end, as long
as you maintain and keep it ingood shape whatnot. So there's there's a
viable way to drive these cars,enjoy them, put it a lot great
memories with you to family, kids, racing with your buddy, whatever,
and still reap the rewards of beingone of the people that jumped on these

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cars when they were available. Becausethey're not making any more of them,
They're just gonna go up in valueeven if you drive and log a lot
of miles on it. So thisis why I see most people can't afford
a house, but I don't know, maybe you afford a decent car payment
because they didn't have some fun forthe next few years, you know,
still come out ahead, you know, because these cars are gone after the

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next year or two. They are, and you can never I mean people,
it's the easiest way for smiles too, right, which appreciate versus smiles
is way less than going and buyhim just your everyday cars. So I
know, I always look at thatwhen you're gonna when you're gonna buy a
car like that, And I don'tget the fun cars that sit in the
garage forever. I don't get that. I know. People love it,

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they collect them, It's it's theirthing. But yeah, I just couldn't
go out every day and see thatcar, isn't it? Could you,
Mike? Could you see your carsit there just with five miles on it?
I mean that's not the way Iroll. But I mean I can't.
I can't drive everything. And there'stimes that I will just open up
the garage door and look at itand smile and then go back and get
something to eat. He covers himselfin some oil, like baby oil,

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and go rubs his naked butt onall his corvettes in his garage. You
know he does. He's like seefive in my in my blue shirt,
my matching shirt day yellow Polo fiveI Foundation outo there Shavy Dealership right there

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off of a seventy Bruce between KiplingAward. Go see Chadman. He's got
all this inventory. You really needto go check him out. On that
Camaro, I'm telling you that isthat's a kind of a flying under the
radar a little bit, but thatis a righteous, awesome car. Those
are what about seventy five eighty thousand, Yeah, I think about seventy six.

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That's affordable it's crazy as to saythat's affordable comparative. Most those are
fun cars to drive. I havedriven them on track at speed and that
is my number one favorite Camaro.Yeah, oh yeah, they can get
down. Man. They're awesome.All right, man, Hey, awesome.
Do catch up with my friend.Thanks as always anytime. Yeah,

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thank you guys. Man, Ireally like talking to you guys. It
doesn't matter when it is or whatit is. We always have a good
conversation, no doubt. Brother,you guys have a great day, buddy,
Ta care man shirts, send mea shirt. Funny man, all
right, we got to dig intoa break when we come back. Jason.

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Now, Jason, he's big partof Tri City Cycles, tri City
Otto. He has his hands anda lot of different you know, performance
based cars. We'll see what theyhave as far as inventory, what he
thinks is a worthy investment. I'mgonna try to get Kai on from BMW
towards the end of the show.See what you know. It's funny because

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BMW A lot of people used tothink BMW just as a luxury car.
BMW is really dug hard in performanceover the last decade plus, and man,
they are Look when it comes tothe honestly, the youth and drifting
and a lot of things, youknow what you go to like a slush

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motorsports festival or something like that.Dude, BMW is the game changer man.
Everybody's in them. Yeah, andthere's a good reason why they make
awesome race cars. They make awesomefun, crazy cool. So we'll have
Kai on catch us up a littlebit about what there is in that offering
as well, and then surely atthe top of the hour, Dan from
liver Nore Motorsports. Livernoi is oneof these companies that can really increase performance

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in all these modern cars, andthey do so a lot of times.
What's great, they don't even sayaffect your emissions things like that. They
give you a full on tune upnow I mean when I say tune up,
they give you a handheld tuner.They give you everything you need to
do these upgrades that anybody can dowithin a week and in their garage roll
out. We used one of theirkids a couple of years ago on a

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track Hawk, which is that crazycool all wheel drive GEEP offering deal with
the Hellcat powertrain, and we madethat thing a thousand and fifty horse power
in one show on two guys garageand well about a show and a half,
about a day and a half really, but it was one show.
We made that thing a thousand andfifty horsepower using these liver NOI upgrade kids,

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and that thing all will drive hadsome meats on it. That was
a beast on the street. Thatthing was crazy. Anyway, man,
we'll chat about it all on theway. It's Willy's garage back after the
break, Willy Bee's garage. You'reback in Williebe's garage. So on step

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nine kpp I walk to will ItBe's garage. All right, Mike Pettiford,
go for it. Services. Willyb on the phone, we have
man legend Don Jason Jason Tri CityCycles, uh, tri City Auto to
So this is kind of I willtell you this man. The fun factory
that they have turned Tri City Cyclesinto is straight up amazing. Whether it's

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boats like watercraft, whether it's performancecars or crazy cool performance by They really
are kind of with that go tospot up in the FOURT Colin area.
Man, it's just awesome. Wellthey've become over last you know, a
few years, and look there's veryfew moments in life now where, honest

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to God, you could just havesome not thinking about anything, fly by
to see your pants fun and it, I mean the windows and opportunity is
to have that and enjoy that nowadayswith the way everything is the news every
time you turn on TV, it'sjust everything's stressful. Everything is like whoo,
man, everybody's you know, stressedon the bucket two. But you

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know when you can't find something thatallows you to have some fun and you
know, escape for a few whetherthat's seat time on the track or just
driving from me to be, oryou throw your leg over, you know,
over a motorcycle, or maybe youtake your role, you know,
you ride down to Chatfield and uncorkit and let it rip, you know
some Sunday morning. God, thoseare those what makes it worthwhile. So

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Jason, I got ta you man. You guys really have transitioned into a
you know, I call it kindof like a fun factory between the bikes
and boats and the and the cars. Man. So I was just catching
everybody up on inventory because I reallyas you kind of wake up and see
the road ahead and you know,kind of look at where everybody's going,
and the big pivots here in thenext you know, twelve to eighteen months

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towards you know, a lot ofmanufacturers going electric and some staying with internal
combustion setups. I want to geta better sort of investment opportunity message out
there for people, because really beingat the crescendo of high performance and they're
kind of melding about some hybrids andand you know, gas power vehicles coming

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together. What we have the opportunityto get our hands on, you know,
in the past couple of years andthen the next coming couple of years
is really as an investment. Someof these can't maybe afford real estate,
but investment wise, whether you driveit or stick it a corner, these
are some great investments and the funfactor that comes with it makes it to

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me worthwhile. So welcome to theshow man, you guys. God,
you guys really got a lot offun there. Man. Yeah, it's
the path of these maturity in life. We don't sell anything you need,
but everything you want. Yeah,it's a lot of fun for sure,
no doubt. So let's talk alittle bit about it. In the bike
world. Dude, I love whatYamaha is throwing at us. I love

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all the other things that you knowis out there and available performance wise,
and bikes real fast. That seasonis around the corner. What's the hottest
Yeah, what's the hottest deal?And the hottest bike this year? So
far, it's been our ones thathas been the bike we can't I mean,
we get them in and they're gone. We got deposits on them.

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MTO nine, s MT ten andour sevens. Uh, those have been
real popular so far this year.Yeah, and uh and preowned Harley's.
Man, We've been slinging pre ownedHarley's like crazy so far. And uh
yeah, well you know, andthe new ones are going for forty grand
plus you look at what a preowned one with low miles is and god,

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it's got some attraction. Wait,what's going for forty grand? Oh?
Like the new street glides and roadglide that's crazy extensive. God man,
that's nuts. Yeah, that's crazy. Anyway, what I uh and
dude, I used to love whenI was able to write, I have

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a fused risk, so it makesright in that angle really difficult. That's
how why I had to transition fromthe sport bike set up to a little
bit more of a cruiser set up. And uh, it's kind of in
between the Vmax, especially where Ihave mine at. But it's it is
one of those things that, man, there is something about strapping, you

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know, under this machine that canhonestly, God, it rocks you.
This thing is so fast man.It's one of those things where I remember
when I had my R one.Man, this thing you would just rip
the throttle. I think it justfeather the clutches. You're ripping through them
gears. It was nuts how fasthe goes zero to a buck eighty man.

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I mean it was just a matterof a couple of breasts and you
would be there. It's stupid.Of there's nothing that you can afford with
four wheels that gives you the performanceof what you can get for two wheels.
Yep, I mean it is crazy. If you're just looking at that,
see your pants, like, holythat's fast man. It is ungolly

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what you could throw your leg overand and have a really an affordable price.
What about investment wise? Are therebikes now other than the Harley's with
chrome, any performance bikes that wouldbe good investments right now? You know,
I think Yamaha and other manufacturers aredoing a really good job of coming
out with like limited production stuff thelike Yamaha has the sp line in our

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mts, and then the R onems that are true track performance bikes.
You know, they're they're there forthe riders that maybe like five percent of
riders out there that can push abike beyond its limits and gives you upgrade
a suspension and you know, somemore technology and things like that that are
pretty cool, you know. Andit's hard to say with investment wise these

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days. When it comes to thecars, I think it's a little bit
easier to predict, but with bikes, you just never know what's around the
corner. And the manufacturers really haven'tlocked onto any alternative fuel, whether it's
electric or anything else yet, Soeverything that we're dealing with is is still
a gas motor, which I love. I've still got to I've still got

(31:03):
a BMW S one thousand r RM option Jesus an ass name for a
motorcycle that's kind of in that sameCanada. The hell is that? Well?
It matched my shirt buddy polo shirtwearing bike right there as a R
R nine Dash four seven two dashthat sounds like you're ribbing a skew number

(31:26):
how do you get all that ona side plate? Yeah, that's a
that's a cool bike you got.Is it cooler than the Yamaha v Max?
Not a cool not as cool asyour Yamaha v Max? Hey those
are you know? There's another bikethat's that's an investment bike. You know
what if you're talking investment bike.Yeah, those bikes in the one you

(31:47):
got to that generation, that lastgeneration is a cool bike. Tons of
horse power. They actually handle prettywell. Yeah, that's a cool bike.
Yeah, dude, those how quickdo those run off the shelf when
you when you get them in.They don't make him anymore. They haven't
made them since. But what areyou gonna use one? When you get
one coming in the people? Thelast one, the last one we got
made is about eighteen hours. Ohwow, body of mine. I sold

(32:13):
it to brand New, sold itback to us. I think he's I
think he put four thousand miles onit. It was perfect and got it
in in the afternoon on Friday.It was cooled by Saturday morning. Wow.
Wow. Yeah, that's the internet, man. You put that stuff
out there and get a bunch ofeyes on it. That goes fast.
Well, let's talk Obviously bikes arejust unique, right, kind of niche

(32:36):
kind of investment wise, Yeah,but the fun factor through the roof and
the fact that they're affordable, funfactors what makes them so appealing attractive.
Now, let's pivot when it comesto cars. Try a city Auto has
really become a go to up onthat northern end, well kind of all
over the state for performance cars.And they're not brand loyal. They've got

(33:00):
everything from Clarence and Lambeaus to Hellcatsand you know, gts. What's what's
the rage right now? Performance wise? Give us the top sort of ten
that you you feel like you guyshave or that that's out there and available.
You know that we've always done reallywell with Challenger, Hellcats, red

(33:22):
Eyes, all the big horsepower stuff. And I think that stuff, anything
big displacement is going away. Andyou know, those other kind of cars
like the aud r e B tens, they're going away. They're not gonna
make them. They're all these supercarcompanies are gonna go to hybrids. So
I think those are the cars,you know, the last generation of like

(33:44):
the Ferrari V tens and twelves andbig V eights, like those things are
gonna are gonna hold their value andand go up as time goes on.
Yeah. Uh, the the it'scrazy. Those those hell Cats like you're
red Eye that we got from you. Yeah, is in New Zealand now,
homie. Yeah, that's insane,Like that's crazy to think about.

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That's when you think about the hellCat and how that platform and a I
just got to give a little nodto Dodge. They shook the entire hot
rod world because that was undercover alot of people don't realize when they came
out with the hell Cat, nobodywas anywhere near seven hundred and seven horse
power. Nobody was planning on goingthat direction. And the more things and

(34:31):
applications that Dodge shoved that platform into, the more it would rock the entire
market. I never forget talking toa Ford guy, took the lead engineer
at Ford. We had him ona podcast and they were talking about how
they came out with the Raptor,the Ford Raptor, and how they were

(34:52):
just flying along and everything was fine. They had their and edge, everybody
had theirs, and then Dodge shookthe entire world up when it came out
with the TRX to put seven sevenhundred horsepower in a pickup truck. So
and they had to go back tothe drawing board and redo everything. So

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it's kind of funny. You know, Dodge has always been that company.
What's wild is that's done. Thosedays are numbered and they're moving to all
electric next year. Like that.That makes that that car, that platform
and all its different dressings. Beit the TRX, the charger of the
Challenger, that makes that platform reallycollectible. Yeah, that TRX is the

(35:37):
baddest, baddest ass truck I haveever driven. That Thing's ridiculous. It's
stupid. It is impossible to holdonto gas and I thing I took one
home for one weekend, so Iwas gonna buy one, and I put
like one hundred and fifty bucks worthof fuel for it and through it in
two days because it's just too muchfun. You can't drive slow five miles

(36:00):
per gallon. Yeah, you can'tdrive every bit of it now, And
you're laughing the entire time, likewhoah, yeah, knocked my my wife's
phone out of her hand when Ihammered the cat. It's great, hopefulet's
laughing like idiots. Yeah, man, it's get you. Maybe we can
get you another phone. I'm havingtoo much fun, right a headset.

(36:22):
It was fun when when you're lookingat performance and what's high demand, whether
it's a you know, a yBody or you know a t r X
or you know the hell Cat Durgo. They're they're bringing that back this year.
That's gonna be big. You know, this kind of last hurrah.
You think these cars, you know, at what price point is a hell

(36:43):
Cat going for? Now? Whatwhat's price point of a you know,
one of those platforms compared to youknow it's it's Corvette counterpart or a Mustang
GT three fifty or GT five hundred. Well, first of all, all
those cars have really up the levelof what American manufacturers can build, you

(37:05):
know, and now that the markethas kind of filled up, like the
Corvette sting range, you can getnice ones in like the seventy to eighty
range, and the same with theHellcats and wide bodies. You're starting to
see them in that price range.So that's gone down a little bit or
the last so you're saying, hasgone down a little bit or is that
a little bit? Yeah, butit's still steady. I mean, there's

(37:29):
a free COVID you could get intoa narrow body hell cat for in the
high forties, but you can't touchthem anymore for you know, sixty unless
they got a ton of miles onthem. That's the car that as time
goes and you're gonna see the onesthat are low mileage bring a ton of
money. I think. I thinkthey're just there. You're going to see

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people that are miling them out andactually driving them, which is great own
a car driving. But I thinkthe people that hold onto those and take
care of them and keep them lowmiles over time, especially when they stop
making those cars are gonna really comeup in value. Now, all of
them, the track Hawks, theTRX is anything with that kind of horse
power and that kind of displacement isgoing to go up in value. Now,

(38:12):
what about all these euro cars thatyou guys see, you know,
is gaining popularity. I was gonnatry to have my boy Kaya from BMW.
He's got called into a meeting.But you know, you look at
Bow, you look at Audi,you look at Lamborghini, Like these guys,
all of a sudden they went frombeing a little bit more niche to

(38:32):
a little bit more in the mainstream. I think the yeah, because a
lot of people don't realize the Lamborghinifor the name Lamborghini and all it's who
rob it comes with it. It'sthe same as you know an Audi R
eight, right, basically the samevehicle. You don't get the the reputation
hit when you have an Audi asyou do with the Lambeau because there's something

(38:53):
about a you know, a neongreen Lambeau and a lot of hairjail that
seemed on hand in hand they verydifferent things about the owners. Yeah,
yeah, very much. So whatdo you as far as the European offerings,
what do you think is stupid hotto get your hands on right now?

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You know? And this is likewhere you start seeing the buyers diversify.
I'm a Porsche guy through and through. I think for the money,
we didn't even bring up Porsche.That's another banger though. Did those cars?
They will make a bad driver lookgood. That is that they're just
really well engineered. Are all thosecars? Are all those badass fast Porschs?

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Are they still the Boxer style design? Yeah? Are they still a
Boxers engine? Like just with turbosand boosted Man, that blows me away.
That stupid design can make that muchpower. I used to laugh at
Porsches until I rode in one.This girl was pretty. She was pretty
fast in the street out laws firstcouple of years, and then we went
to a little faster cars. Butman, Sasha had this crazy Porsche.

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You know. The damn thing waslike seven hundred, eight hundred horsepo it
was nut it would bang, itwould it was fast. Well, and
those are those are real horses?Uh? Oh yeah, German horses are
bigger than American horses. Sorry,riding the wrong horse. I know,
I'm just a reporter. I willtell you wrong horse. Totally unbiased,

(40:22):
totally unbiased. Right, But okay, so pors what what car in the
world of the pors I don't knowmakes? Uh makes big power numbers,
big performance people? Happy g Ttwo r rs yep with the white sock
pack. Is that a carb afiber g T two r s. That's
what Brady's got in his garage.Seven hundred horse power in the car.

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It's a legal race car. It'sa it's a street legal race car.
And it's seven hundred horse power waysnext to nothing. Yeah, I mean
zero to sixty and like two pointfour seconds something like that. And the
cornering. I mean it'll it'll,it'll make your body hurt after you're running
through a bunch of corners. Wow, yep, very incredible. And that

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car is again, it's just aboosted boxer design. That just what is
that? A straight suit? Look? What is that? Or a six
cylinders? Yep, six cylinder,that's just bananas. Twin turbo, it's
yeah, I thought it was.I thought it was just one turbo.

(41:30):
It's twin. No, they're they'resingle turbo. Yeah yeah, man,
C one will still stay with itfor way less money. Okay, how
much is one of those cars?Yeah, like three hundred. You're getting
one with a bunch of miles forthree hundreds, they're bringing three fifty four.

(41:50):
Yeah, okay, I'm out ofthe loop. That only reason I
know is we just sold a couple. Oh yeah, I couldn't believe if
I hadn't looked at him in awhile. And we just had a uh
An eight An eighteen g T twor S and we had a twenty two
GT three and uh the GT threewas actually less money. It was in
the too sixty range. And that'sa pretty cool car. Naturally aspirated.

(42:15):
I think they are just under sixhundred horsepower and uh that's a that's a
pretty impressive car too, and naturallyaspirated five hundred change horsepower box million thousand
rpm throw up. That's crazy.Yeah, yeah they're cool, yes,
But I mean all the other carsyou mentioned too, I mean, you

(42:37):
know, like the Audi r Lamborghinis. They're impressive machines. And you know,
one thing, that price point,what's the We're all these coming in
the price that purse is so farout of my range. That's like that's
never never land. But for uh, for rich people, that's a that's
some Uh, that's something to requirefor sure. I just want to drive
one or take a ride in one. Damn uh alright, what else?

(43:00):
Porsche? Alright? What else?Is the the hot spot you said?
R? Yeah, those cars?You need to get one of those now
because that's going away to those cars. It's the fastest car ever. I
know guy Sean who can, honestgod, he could drive his car to
Vegas, go out to the trackif he wants to road road but bantaman

(43:22):
and run a seven second quarter milelike seven seconds and then drive it home.
He's done that before, and it'scrazy. I was like it's a
fast car. Like hashtag ye racecar in an R eight Yeah, oh
my god. Yeah, there's somestuff people are doing the rights, especially
in the state of Colorado. There'ssome there's some tuners and builders in this

(43:43):
state that are putting some serious horsepowerthrough those and the hurricanes. I mean
two thousand plus horsepower easily. Yeah. Well and for four GT's got to
be in there too, you know. Man, that is like the unicorn
here. We had an O sixfour GT and that was one of the
purest race cars I've ever driven.Absolutely cool. But we've been trying to
get a hold of one of thenewer ones. That's another one. That's

(44:07):
a that's a six cylinder that justputs out dumb horsepower. So what's price
point on on an R A?Where are you when you're talking dollars?
Where are these cars coming in at? You know? For what's what's you?
I mean, if you're being picky, you want a fourteen or newer
R A V ten plus or performancethat a change and you're going to be

(44:30):
in the man one hundred and fortyplus just depending on year and how it's
built out. Okay and mileage?All right, what are those things factory
because everybody we were talking about hasthem hopped up in bigger turbots and all
step. What kind of power youlooking at and you feel like that's a

(44:52):
worthy investment for getting your return onthat down the road. Yeah, that's
a cool car. And I think, uh, the uh, the V
ten plus is right around six hundredand twenty horse I'm not one hundred percent
through on that one, but it'sright around there. And it's all will
drive. Man. That puts thepower to the ground quick you hook up
and move and and they are they'renice driving cars. That's a car that

(45:15):
you can drive frequently and not getbeat up and uh and enjoy it.
But they're reliable, they are.They are not as fast off the line,
like compared to g T two rs. Oh my god, no,
dude, Well yeah, it's ayou know, three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars. Well use one. Shoot, we're doing that. So what about

(45:38):
you know, when it comes tojust overall collectible you know, value bang
for buck if you will, howare you about being able to source you
know, Z one Camaros or youknow a lot of these cars that I
do see sometimes you guys stumble upona ass GTR. Sometimes you guys may

(46:01):
have a you know, a reallycool special you know, Demon or a
super stock. You guys get somewild variety of cars. What are some
you have that you're either a ininventory right now or B you're looking to
get your hands on fairly soon.We've been so part of the fun part

(46:22):
really is tracking them down. That'slike we enjoy doing that. We've been
after a four GT lately, anewer one that's been on our list.
The accurate RS or NSX is asuper cool car. We haven't had one
of those in a while and beentrying to track one of those down.
Been real close to buying a coupleof GTRs in the last few weeks.

(46:45):
And I'm always trying to buy Hellcats, any z R one Corvettes. No,
but we just had a twenty threeZ six with the Z seven package.
We are and I am not aCorvette guy, and that car was
pretty damnit until now. Yeah,yeah, yeah, I've talked a lot

(47:07):
of smack on corvettes over the years. And I got behind the wheel of
that thing and I was like,all right, they got something here,
right, that's a cool car.It sounds It doesn't sound like a Corvette.
Man, it sounds like through thatcold start. Yeah, that car
got a nasty old school like nastycold start. Just sounds mad at the
world. It's cool yep, Yeah, all right man? How do people

(47:32):
find out more if they're looking todrop some coin on a Hellcat or on
you know, uh, one ofthese modern cars that I feel like it's
gonna be a great return on investment. I feel like if you got you
know, a little bit of moneyto drop in a car that you know
also can give you a lot ofsmiles for miles and you know, up
the fun factor. This is somethingthat you can look at at doing and

(47:54):
again it comes with a lot offun with it as well. So what
what's the best way for people tofind out more? Get on our website,
go to tri Cityauto Gallery dot com, make contact with us, You
tell us what you're looking for,price pointing, we'll track it down again.
That's that's uh, that's part ofthe funnel what we do. And
and you don't have to spend twohundred grand to have a good time in

(48:15):
a car. I mean there's alot I just want to say down.
I'll just hey, just tell memoney doesn't buy happiness. But I'm I
disagree. Yeah, anybody's ever saidthat has never paid for a divorce.
What, Mike, it's okay tojoke, all right, we're kidding,
Mike, We're joking. We're jokinghere. No, but yeah, get

(48:36):
ahold of us. We got someevents this summer coming up with cars and
coffee. Come see us there.We got them on May nineteenth, July
twenty first, and September fifteenth,and uh, just grab one of us,
say hi and tell us what you'relooking for. Brady just sent me
a picture of his poorst GT twors. God, that car is stupid.
Man, that's crazy. That caris so fast. You need to

(48:59):
come up for a day, gofor riding that in this plane. Yeah,
bro, I'm gonna bring about sixtynine dollars charge to give him a
ride in that. He won't trademe straight across? All right? Maybe
not? Maybe maybe you won't giveme something. I love you, guys.
Uh find out more tri City Cycles, tri City Otto, what was

(49:19):
again online? Try Cityauto gallery dotcom, tri City Auto Gallery dot Com
and Louke. So you can't thisplace is a fun factor. You can't
dismiss when you go in there,man, and whenever, I don't care
what it is. Two wheels,a boat, four wheels. Man,
the fun factor in your life jumpsexponentially. It only hurts when you write

(49:42):
that check. But dude, justto direct deposit then we we don't see
it. That's powerful. Yeah yeah, But look, this is a great
spot, great resource, and thewhole staff up there is just awesome.
So try city everything much love brother, We'll talk to you soon, all
right, catchup, will have agreat weekend. Man. See guys,
no joke, man, they area great resource for radios, those any

(50:04):
of those performance cars. Look,it is wild, man, wild times
we live in right. Homes inthis place have gone crazy, There's no
doubt. Look now some of theseprices in the cars, you know,
prices you can find a home for, you know in Tennessee or Kentucky or
ten of homes in Indiana. Yeah, well you're not buying much of a

(50:25):
home. Well, my brother's lookingat a home right now in Kentucky on
an acre and a half for likeone hundred and eighty year und crazy.
But you know I'm talking of thosehell cats. Those are worthy investments.
And you know, you can't fordreal estate. Maybe that's something to look
at, because these guys can gofind them, can go harvest them,

(50:45):
and really you can tell them whatyou're looking for and where your budget is
and they'll find something that comes inon that in real estate is not as
much fun. Yeah, yeah,And you can't go drive real estate in
the donuts. You go have funnyefty park a lot with in a home.
No matter how much money you putin your house, it's not gonna

(51:06):
go any faster. All right,how do you get some of these cars
faster? Well, Dan a buddyfrom Living do with Motorsports. He's he's
really been working for years on tuningthese cars up, doing so in ways
that makes it really easy that youknow, normal people on a normal weekend
can knock it out. And whenthey roll out, man, they're talking

(51:28):
big upgrades and all these different applications, all these different ways to tweak and
tune performance on these modern cars.So we'll get into it next. Livernoi
Motorsports look him up online back withDan the man behind him. In just
a second. It's Willib's garage onea seven nine KVPI. Willybe's garage you're

(51:49):
back in Willybe's garage. Yeah,you are welcome to your Saturday morning.
Glad to be here, appreciate time. It is Willyby's garage. We have
Mike Pettiford Go for It Services thenumber four, so go for it services.
We got Will we B, wegot Dan from Libanoi Motorsport Du Dun.
We've been talking modern muscle today andyou know, just doing an inventory

(52:13):
check because modern muscle and this sortof I call it, this crescendo that
we're experiencing right now, this sortof epic last farewell kiss of a lot
of the the ice engines. Ithink there's gonna be a big pivot towards,
you know, towards the hybrid setupsin the years to come, because

(52:34):
you know, Dodger said they're outof game. They're doing all electric.
You know, Chevrolet moving to someelectric stuff. We all know Forge pivot
a big time the electric stuff.Although they're now had this knee jerk reaction
of like, hey, we're gonnakeep an ice engine in the Mustang.
We're gonna be the only manufacturer dothat. We're cool with that. We'll
see how that shakes out. Maybethey will maybe they won't. BMW is
dedicated to the ice engine for along time, so that's good to hear.

(52:58):
But Dan, you're making modern muscleso much faster. Man, Welcome
to the show. It's been toolong, man, how you been.
What's up everybody? I've been great. Thanks again for having me on the
on the show again. That's greatwhat you guys do so I think it's
awesome. Hell yeah, man,Well glad you're taking the time to catch

(53:19):
up with us. Man. How'slife at at LIBANOI? Man? Living
no motorsports and engineering. You guysreally need to check out some of this
unbelievable stuff they do to make modernmuscles so much faster and so much easier.
You could roll you know, likeI was mentioned earlier in the show,
we've used theirs. There's kids andtheir stuff where honest Scott, you

(53:39):
could roll in on a Friday,roll out on a Sunday and totally transform
your car. I mean everything isright there included in all these you know,
ways to tune it, ways todial it up that you know,
a good week and warrior like uscan knock out and really upgrade their car.

(54:00):
So let's get into it. Man, what's when you see this sort
of I'd be calling it kind ofa crescendo. You know, modern muscle.
You just can't beat modern muscle man, whether it's Chevy, whether it's
Forward. I tend to bag onForward a lot, just because it's fun.
But more part dude, modern muscleof killer. Isn't it? Just
the nuts? It is? Andyou know, this is really the last

(54:23):
year. You know, twenty twentyfour is about it. At least that's
what's on paper, and that's whatall the big three are talking about.
But this is really it if youwant to get into this performance market at
a new car. Right twenty DODGjust building their stuff out. I think
through March, maybe April. They'redone with most of the stuff. So

(54:46):
and you know, and you did, I did say they're done the last
year with the exception of the Mustang, right right right, So, but
this is the last year you canbuy something from everybody because Camaro twenty twenty
four, this is the last yearfor that. I know. That crazy
that's like, yeah, so I'ma Ford guide, you know, that's

(55:07):
my whole life. I've raised mystangs again. I'm a Ford guy.
But I like all models. Right, there was a time I didn't.
I was just diehard for now.We forgive you, man, We forgive
you. You have seen the light. You We don't judge you on your
past ins. It's okay, WellI look them out equally. Not yeah,

(55:28):
that's true. Not so man,when you're looking at modern performance,
you know, at Living Oi Motorsports, encourage you guys to go check out
the website Living No Motorsports. Theygot really so many cool things and easy
ways to upgrade. And a lotof people don't realize this. Let's be

(55:49):
honest, for so many people forso long, things like what's something really
easy? Oh, a code airintake. A lot of people, you
know, there's a lot of trashand just ratchet code air intake system out
there. However, when you geta good one, when you get one
where it's truly cold air that you'repulling from, that's sealed off, that's

(56:10):
got a great filtration system. Man, you could have a decent upgrade.
When you get to changing out pulleyson superchargers nowadays, upgrade and fuel injectors
of fuel pump, all of asudden, you're turning that thing a little
faster, hey, man, you'relooking at a significant power change out,
throttle body, all these things,even getting a handheld tuner where you go

(56:35):
in and what a lot of peopledon't realize is the factory loves to leave
these margins in to make people inthe car and the driver's seat. It's
weird, but most of us listeningto the show like to feel the car
shift. Well, the factory theydon't want the driver to feel the car
shift because most people they don't wantto feel. They just want to feel

(56:57):
an easy glide up to speed,you know, so the pull timing a
pull, fuel and spark so thatwhen the car shifts right, everything kind
of goes like almost in a limpmode for you know, one thousands or
two of a second, and thenit shifts. Oh, and then it's
not a limp mode. It ona some cars they shut the throttle right
right before it it starts to shift. Shuts the throttle, you feel a

(57:20):
little bit, and then it oncethe shift is completed, then it opens
up. So it's pretty bad insome cars. Yeah, you don't feel
it right, Yeah, So youhave made all these things available to go
in, change these things up,make these shift points, you know,
a transmission love to shift hard,and you know no, it's actually it's

(57:43):
actually better for the transmission to shiftfirmer than it is softer. Yeah,
but you know the OEM's in alittle bit of a pinch there, right.
If they make them shift hard,people complain, they make them shift
saft, nobody cares about it.But shifting soft lips the clutches wears them
out premium, you know quick.Yes, if it was shifted shifts hard.

(58:06):
Hey, remember the first time youwere a kid and you got the
shift kid in your three speed fourhundred turbot transmission. For me, it
was a seven twenty seven, andyou would you would hit that thing would
hit second gear and it would itwould just like you said. Man for
that was like the first thing youdid at sixteen that was so cool,
Like everybody thought you were so dopewhen you grab man good thing. Just

(58:28):
grabed second gear, rubber sure enoughdid third gear. Yeah, yeah,
you had some of you grab thirdgear. But man for the first step
when I was sixteen was just grabbingsecond gear. I'm like you hear that
second gear, man, bitch eight. When you're looking at some of these
some of these ways to do it, what would you say for you guys

(58:49):
at living room Motorsports? What aresome of the big hot ticket upgrades that
you have that people seem to bereally uh excited about it and and loved
when they got the car done andfinished up. Well, you know the
big ticket item. I'll give youa couple options. Well, the high
dollar is something that doesn't have asupercharger. You put a supercharger on that

(59:13):
transforms your car into like something basicto like a monster. Right. But
the simple thing, and I probablya broken record, I know I've told
you guys this, But just doingthe tuner, fixing the transmission and the
shifting, that's like the biggest thingthat I think most people appreciate right away.
Yeah, you set a shift kitback in the day, like I

(59:35):
remember that, you'd crawl underneath you, drop the pan you've got you know,
you got to pull the vow bodyoff, right, put a ball
bearing here, put a ball bearingthere, moving up? Yeah, little
little rubber check whatever you had youhad the whole day in that right.
Yeah. So now you buy atuner, plugging in, turn the key

(59:57):
on, hit a couple of buttons. Twenty minutes late, you got a
shift kick Yeah, that's sick,man. That is sick. And he's
talking about these tuners. He makesthe easiest one. A lot of times
I think people they get a littleintimidated by, you know, thinking they're
going to adjust a tune, orthey think it's you know something that maybe
that handheld is inadequate enough. Butyou're seeing real, like significant changes,

(01:00:23):
significant changes as far as performance goeswhen somebody gets these tuned, and yours
is one of the easiest out thereto navigate, to get into and just
you know, get the benefits from. I think so. And we've we
kind of designed it, you know, probably a twenty sixteen we started designing

(01:00:44):
it and it was based on usingother people's stuff and saying we got to
make this better and easier. Sowe've I think we've done that. I
mean, obviously there's always room forimprovement, but we've done a pretty good
job on it, man. Yeah, no doubt man. So walk us
through is a couple of steps whatyou do when you get this tuner.
So people that may not know theycan go online it and get this and

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this is an easy way to getsome quick performance and like you said,
like a shift kit. Yeah,so honestly, you go on our website,
livenimotorsports dot com literally find the vehiclethat you know. We don't support
all vehicles, but pretty much mostof the big three four GM the Chrysler.
We've got a tuner for those.You go in there, you buy
it, we ship it to you. Once you get it, you literally

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walk it out to your car,plug it in. It'll identify the car.
Then you walk it to your computer, plug it in and there's some
automatic you know, you fill outa couple of things that prompts you your
name, email, phone number,and then we develop a tune for you,
or we might already have it.It gets downloaded within you know,

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if it's right away, it couldbe less than an hour, or it
could be twenty four hours. Weget your tune, you plug it back
into your downloads it, you walkit out to your car, plug it
back in under the obed two port. You got ten minutes. It's done,
I mean it's and it walks youthrough programming. You press a button,

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turn key off, turn key on. When you're all done, unplug
it. It's a piece of cake. So yeah, man, and you
guys developed this software in house.It's super easy to use. It's called
my caliber tuner or my calibrator tuner. I would tell you jump online because
this is a super easy way toupgrade the what you're getting out of your

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car, like in a flash.Like it's crazy how quickly you know.
For a lot of us, weremember when you used to go get parts
and swap out parts for performance.Now it really there's so much performance just
in something like this. It willstun you and surprise you how different and

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significant it changes what that car feelslike and how much how much more horsepower
can you typically get? Oh,that's a good question, right, So
if it's a I'm just gonna musthrow out their two scenarios. If it's
an eco boost, like let's callit a forty eco boost, something that's
turbo charged, you can get anywherefrom oh, forty to sixty horse power

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pretty easy. And in some cases, and I hate to over oversell it,
but some cases you can get eightyhorsepower on some of like the F
one fifties, right crazy. Ifit's a naturally aspirated car truck, like
you know, a Silverado or aF one fifty five liter, you're probably
talking thirty horse power you know whatI mean. But you can you can

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feel that. I mean, ohyeah, thirty horse powder you feel yeah,
about twenty twenty five horsepowers when youstart to feel difference. If you've
got a car that you really,really like and you can add another thirty
to eighty horsepower, yeah, ohmy gosh. Even if you don't like
your car, I suggest you dothat and maybe you'll like it more.
That's right. Absolutely, I'm goingto go back to the known to interrupt

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you, but I'm going to goback to the transmission. Remember, if
they're shot in the throttle during ashift, we don't have to add any
more power, and you're gonna getit and be like, this thing feels
like a missile. That's exactly whatI was. Yeah, just the transmission
tune up it how it transforms thecar into such a faster you know,

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take coming out of the whole machine, and it really does feel like you
added another fifty horsepower, just eliminatingall the factory margins that are in there
and allowing the transmission to do whatit wants to do, to run a
little more pressure up, make thoseships firm and man, it reacts so
differently, right, and the pedal. A lot of cars when you actually

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let's say you stab the pedal,you put one hundred percent, they don't
go full throttle. I'm gonna sayprobably thirty to forty percent of cars there's
actually a delay in it. Right, so it'll move, you know,
twenty percent, no problem, butthat twenty to one hundred percent there's a
literally like a couple second delay.GM was big on this huge something like

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yeah, Trailblazer, SS, Camaro, anything that actually GM has that's dried
by wire. I'm ninety percent surethey all have some kind of delay in
not not only is their delay,but you'll watch they don't give you one
hundred percent from the factory. Likeyeah, you go in and get a
scanner and like I gotta botch eightysix twenty five shout out to Bosh.

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But you can go in and youcan retune that. You know, if
you look at your your throttle body, you got that big valve sitting a
big flapper deal you're but it's likelook, big throttle, Budy. They
don't give you one hundred percent ofthat of that hit uh from the factory.
Majority of time you go in thereand you'll tune they'll give you,
they'll give you ninety five ninety four, but they'll leave they'll leave that five

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six seven percent just out there.Yeah, some of the Fords will show
you eighty two. That's actually onehundred though, but some of the gms,
you're right, they're not one hundredpercent, dude, it's crazy and
you've got to recalibrate that. They'realways holding it back. And they do
that for efficiency, for warranty stuffbecause they want all those yeah, for

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they want all that those margins,you know, safe and as smooth as
possible. Because you know most ofthe people in the driver's seat don't care
about that. But when you're tryingto you know, we're trying to win
a race, baby, everything counts, that's right. And you guys have
these for for every application, right, I mean there's a lot. There's

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an endless matter of excuse you couldthrow at this thing and it can handle
everything. Yeah, and I don'tI don't want to get too technical,
but you know some of the gmsyou have to send the TCMs in to
get unlocked. You guys have heardof that, right, So we are
just on the fence or fence,We on the Verge are releasing our tuner

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that'll do that for somebody. Soif you've got to let's just call it
a twenty sixteen and a half newervehicle GM, you got to pull the
TCMs out of them and send themto us, right, or whoever's tuning
your vehicle. We're going to putthat in the tuner. I'm going to
say probably the next month it'll bereleased. So instead of sending your PCM

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in and waiting, you literally justplug it into the You actually still plug
it into the TCM. We've gota connector. Yeah, it's pretty simple.
If you're a car person or havejust a smidgeon of mechanical skills,
it's literally unconnecting that connector and putit plug in this one. And it's
super simple. Yeah, it iscrazy. Again, how how much power

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and how much? So when you'retalking power, we're not just talking a
number here, We're talking performance,right, We're talking performance. We're talking
that that number, we're talking justhow the car reacts when you hit that
that throttle, when you mad itright, Yeah, that overall power change

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and and what you're gonna feel significantlymore than what that number is going to
represent. You'll you'll absolutely feel adifference in the way the car comes out,
the whole, the way it shifts, the way it just you know,
you're able to have some fun andturn it up. And it's not
just you know, it's not justthat that they attack at Livernoi. If

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you want suspension, no grade,help you guys, that's what you guys
are even doing heads now? Ohyeah, absolute, yeah, no,
We've been doing heads for for along time. We do build engines too,
so right crazy full engine, builda facility. We're kind of a
one shot stop right Sole's say youdid have Mustang Camaro Challenger and you do
want to go crazy with it.We can pull the engine out, rebuild

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the engine. We do CNC headsin house. We can see and see
your heads, put them on thecar, sell your heads. Like I
said, we do. We're kindof full service. You know, I
don't think there's many shops that dolike this much. Insane, So we
got to take a break right now. When we come back. We talked
a little bit, you know,about a lot of these applications. Say

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you know, Camaro, your Chevyplatforms, what do you have for what
do you have for some hellcats outthere. What do you have for some
of the Dodgers, Because I believe, at least judging from what my brother
says and talking to a few othertunors, when you talk about leaving margins
out there and leaving potential power outthere, Dodge leaves a lot on the

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table like a chunk. And youhave found ways to go in there and
snatch up some of that, andI love to chat about that when we
come back. All right, cool, all right, man, quick break.
Livernoi Motorsports. Check them out online, easy to find. They're spelled
l I v E r n oI S liver Oi Motorsports or livering Oi

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Motorsports and Engineering. They really dohave everything there on the website. Check
them out. Through the break,we'll come back talk with Dan more on
it. How to upgrade your hotride find out. Next is Willy B's
garage on BPI. Willy B's garagefell back in Willy B's garage, What
up you guys? Will be hisgarage. Welcome to Saturday morning. Thanks

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for driving a little time with us. Man Mike Pettiford go for his services.
Will he be We have but manDan from liver and Oi Motorsports and
Engineering on with us check him outonline. Liver NOI l I v E
r n o I S Motorsports orLiving Oing Motorsports and Engineering really all kinds
of really cool upgraded options for yourrides, your hot rides, your modern

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muscle, dude. Modern musk isso freaking amazing. The power it puts
down, all the electronic consistent thingsthat come with it to allow you to
have some fun, get out thereand rip it up. It's it's a
wild time because used to I usedto run around with that five hundred number
and think you were a badass inhigh school, right, and then all
of a sudden, seven hundred becamethe number. And then if you showed

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up with anything under a thousand atcar meets and so forth, you might
as well forget about it. Youwon't even talked about Well. Dan and
his team at Living on In Motorsports, man, they're one of those those
companies where they're the go to they'rethe how do I get that power?
How do I do it in away that's tuna a little easy. And

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what's great about Modern Muscle is thesecars are really they're really docile. When
you're just driving around for me tobe. They're drivable, man, they're
easy to you know, they're easyto get get in, fire up,
you know, back in the oldold school days. You know, I
still got a few of these oldcool hot rods. Sure, man,
you're talking man, cam shafts,your tow the car just doing the you

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know, it's just hllacious, theyou know, the spring pressure, you
know, just the aggressiveness on oneof these old cars that you had to
get whereas yeah, there's modern carswith the superchargers and turbos. They're just
man, they're just making big powers, dan is really and they're quiet.
Yeah. Yeah. But but wecan make a you know, a GM

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or Chrysler sound old school and sitthere and cam out and rattle the doors.
And we can still do that.Yeah, it's cool that you do
that with tuning. Now, hey, they'll drop a little more fuel in
it, riching it up a littlebit, fatten it up. But but
but but and it's cool man.It's it's one of those things that you
know, I like that sound too. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,

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let's talk about hellcats and some ofthe dodgers out there, you know,
talking to tuners man, Dodge leavesa lot on the table, and I
know over the years some of myfriends and the Cat Out Dodge Challenger Club,
they've used you as a great resourceto upgrade the rides. What do
you have for Dodge out there that'sreally making the impact difference. Well,

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we'll start with the Hellcat. That'sthe I guess that's the big elephant.
I guess right. So you cando a couple hundred horsepower pretty easy on
Hellcat Red Eye, you know,Demon TRX, Track Hop, Durango,
Hellcat, Like, we've got prettymuch the same package and I'm gonna say
the same but similar parts. Yougo from I don't know, five seventy

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to the wheels to eight hundred prettyeasily, you know what I mean.
So crazy, right, yeah,I mean yeah, that's two fifty almost
there. That's insane. I can'tI can't wait. One of these days,
man, I'm gonna get me whenI'm getting ready bring my wide body.
That was this Sam Out. I'vebeen finishing that car up. One
of the one of my next upgradesis one day I'll have to work out

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something and do it. We didit one on the TV show. I
told you we did on track Talkone time and it was stupid cool and
it's manageable. I want to getthat done on that wide body one day
too. But this is an easyway to, you know to really I
mean think about think about what youwould have to do back just a number

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of years ago to increase one hundredand fifty two hundred horse power in your
car. Do it a weekend?Yeah, yeah, forget about it.
A new engine, yeah, newengine exactly. And now you can do
this in a weekend. So whatwhat all does that include to kind of
walk us through what people are doingwhen they're a much power? Yeah,
so easy one is, let's justI'm gonna break it up in a couple

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of packages, right. Easy onewould be let's call it one hundred and
fifty horse that'd be like a pulleyabout some injectors and that's it. Super
easy. You could do that inyour in your driveway. I'm gonna say
a non you know, not amechanic, but following directions probably four hours,

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you know what I mean. Amechanic someone knows what they're doing with
the with the right tools hour anda half, you know what I mean?
And this one and fifty fifty onehundred and fifty horse power, and
you could do it in your drivewayin the afternoon one hundred and fifty well,
and the car would still be reliablebecause the motors are overbuilt from the

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factory anyway. Yes, yep,crazy, that's a that's a fact.
Yeah, one hundred and then ifyou want to do and if you wanted
to do the two hundred two fifty, then you're gonna have to do the
lower balancer. Right then that becomesa little bit more difficult pulling the balancer
on and off. But look,let's face it, there's any shop at

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the corner can do something like that, you know, yeah, or or
you can set it up to us. We'll we'll just pick up and deliver
cars off Colorado, no problem,California, no problem, Like we do
cars all over. So when somebodyis talking two hundred and two fifty,
what for the red eyes and someof the you know, people that are

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looking to get a little bit moreout of there? What's what's after that?
Is there a way to to slapon a little bit more? Do
you have something when people want togive it a little a little ludicrous?
Yeah, So you you can basically, take the you know, seven hundred
horse power and a hell Cat,you can double it. If you want
to get crazy, we can makefourteen hundred. You know what I mean.

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It's not it's not that terribly hardto do. It does get a
little bit expensive the superchargers. Anythingover let's just call it eleven hundred horse
we would talk you into a Whipplesupercharger. That would be my supercharger.
Yeah, three leader, or ifyou want to go crazy, the new
three point eight later, geezus athree point eight leader already it's a bad

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dude. Oh yeah, wow crazy. And when you're when you're up at
fourteen hundred, does the bottom endof the motor still is that still reliable
or do you think you're going tono place? That's a that's a good
that's a good point. So whenyou're over yeah, I think when you're
over eleven hundred, yeah, itwould be. You know, I'm not

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saying you can't do it. Ifpeople do it all the time, make
a liar on of me all thetime. You can do it. You
just got to remember, Okay,I took a seven hundred horsepower engine and
I doubled it. If you thinknothing's gonna happen to it, your kid,
and you're sadly mistaken. However,if you upgrade to but if you
have bigger Stoker type scenario fours internals, then you can let that you can

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let that thing loose. But alot of times, you know, if
I would say fourteen hundred, butlet's talk about that thousand horsepower range,
if you don't have to get intothe bottom end of the engine, like,
that's signal dignificant, man, Yeah, it is. Well, what
do you have for that? Whatgets us there? Yeah, that's the

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package. That's the two fifty horsepower page. It's kind of like our
SW five package. That's what wecall it. So it's upper lower Pulley
injectors tuning. It's not it's nota crazy bunch of parts. So you
did that package on that U onthat jeep. That was so we knocked

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that out of that show. Yeah, you guys, you got that was.
That was under you know, undera day and you guys never done
it before. Yeah, it was. It was pretty freaking easy. And
it's one of those things. Hegives you everything you need to get the
job done in in the package.He's got one or two little tools that
I would encourage you to get tomake it really easy. But it's super

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cool. And again, dude,you're rocket one thousand ords. Think about
late, you know, there's amassive difference in just how that car.
Well, let's be honest, it'sa big flex. A thousand horsepower is
so such a big increase over thatseven hundred that most people are gonna show

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up to the car swap or ashow or a you know, a little
cruiser together with Like, if you'rethe dude barking with a thousand, you
know, people gonna know you.Yep, your car's gonna get talked about
it. You'll be the big dog. Yeah. And the thing about the
Challenger or the Halcat stuff, theyjust make so much bottom end torque.

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Most stuff can't maybe if it's gota thousand, can't touch them anyway because
they just got so much torch downthough. Yeah, So what about for
you know, for guys that maybe rocking something a little bit you know,
a little bit older. Like I'llgive you example. I got a
what is that thing? A twentytwelve Camaro, So it's got that it's

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got a super you know, awhipple super charged like A. Actually it's
a magnuson at one nine, theold smaller deal. Yeah, that's those
cars right there. It's funny yousay that. So the twenty ten through
fifteen Camaro, that's a really goodcar, man, That is a that's

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a sweet spot. So those things, I'm gonna say, those engines are
way over built too, So youcould do a supercharger on one of those.
You don't got to touch the bottomend either. Yeah. So I've
got a fezzler Camaro. I've alreadygot a supercharger on it, but it's
a smaller that one point nine,you know that one point nine plus or
whatever they had from Magnus and Ithink it was so how difficult is it?

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I is somebody wanted to upgrade?Are you making supercharger lids? Because
I hear that's one of the niceupgrades. You guys have kids for those
older style Camaros or Mustangs or someof those early Hellcats. So we do,
but we would I would still talkyou into it. You're talking about

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what supercharge on your car? Theone nine, the Magnison one nine,
maguson one nine, So those they'veupgraded most of those superchargers today. So
they do, like a twenty sixfifty on them or a twenty three hundred
they've I believe, I'm not surethey make that supercharger you have anymore,
which is I'm not gonna say agood thing, but it's a good thing
for if you're buying you because it'sa much more efficient blower, more power.

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So that's a those cars. There'sa lot of options for those.
So yeah, and you guys areyou guys are making that available for that
demographic. We do, Actually thoseall the magnets and superchargers for those GM
cars are should be on our websiteand cool you know, not only the
supercharger on that car. You cando heads CMC heads, cam Chef cold

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air kit. You can get closeto one hundred horsepower doing that, and
that that's a big improvement in acar that you know, I'm going to
talk in terms of rear wheel horsepower. That car might have been in
like a mid three hundred horsepower.When we're done, you'd be three or
four fifty four seventy depending on whatpackage you dealt with, you can get

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you know, eighty to one hundredand twenty horse power depending on how radical
you want the can to be.And those cars sound killer man with a
big cam chef. They do.Yeah, man, mine's ah so,
I told you mine has that Feeslerpackage. Uh, it's so. It's
it was rated at seven forty threewhen when I got that car from Feesle.

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So seven forty three was the magicnumber. And it's got that the
Borler exhaust on it. Oh godman, it sounds it's got that little
chopped to it. Yeah, it'scool thing. But obviously that came out
in twenty twelve. You see theprogression of superchargers, right, that was
the one nine or one nine plusor whatever it was for Madison. Then
they went to that twenty three tofifty years yeah, and then twenty six

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yeah, twenty six fifty yeah,yeah, they've in. I thought it
was crazy when I saw that threeleader on a Ford Coyote a couple of
years ago. Now you said,they're making a three point eight leader.
These things are crazy and they're efficienttoo. They are. They are I
think the Whipple you know in thatin depending on what car you have,

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the Whipple three point eight leader onsome of the cars, the twenty six
to fifty magnuson on some of theGM cars. That's a good supercharge,
you know, either one of thosegood choices depending on the application, you
know what I mean? Magazine reallydoesn't do Mustangs from I don't. I
don't think they have a kit fortwenty fifteen and newer Mustangs. Now I

(01:23:40):
heard that they're possibly working on fortwenty four Mustang. Oh well so,
but when you're looking at superchargers,easiest just go to your website and type
in you know, it's Livernoid Motorsports, but really you type in kind of
year making model, do that digand you kind of sky's the limit?

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What what's your number? And what'syour budget? Right? That's awesome?
And again, man, did youstart out with just that tuner? I
should point out that thing's super affordable, like crazy to net that much power.
And again power meaning not just thathorsepower number, but everything else included.

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Yeah, and the torque management,all the shift points, pressures changed,
and transmission, all those margins thefactory leave in there taking out So
that power increase so significant for theamount of money you're spending. So obviously
the kits and superchargers make it upthere in price, what's the you know,
base base point price of a youknow, your your tuner. When

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somebody wants to start out and startupgrading their ride kind of that's the first
thing. Then a code arentake,then Campshat kind of walk us through price
points on those real quick. Yeah, so the tuner, they're five ninety
nine, right, and that thatpretty much takes care of you and your
car. I don't want to sayfor the life of it your car,

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but pretty much most of our packages, if you buy something from us,
that tuner is not wasted. Solet's say you do just do a tuner
five ninety nine, you put inyour car. Six months later you're like,
man, you know, I thinkI want a Camscheft. You call
us up when you get a camChef. The good thing is you don't
have to buy the tuner anymore,or you don't have to buy the tuning

(01:25:30):
for that, because if you buyour package, you can buy the cam
Cheft, slide it in yourself,which you know, if you can do
that, they're around five hundred orsomething to the cam Chef four to five
hundred depending on the application, andyou just throw a tune in it and
you're good. So the progression,you know, we we kind of you
can build on that tuner from JumpStreet, right, and if you go

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so, the tuner becomes the groundgame and you build off of that,
and you don't have to go backand get another tune for it, because
they'll do that for you. They'llbe like, yeah, we got to
covered here's the tune for it.Yeah, as long as you buy something
that's our package. You go outthere and get some something off the wall,
it's like, hey, I didthis, Can you guys tune for
it? We're gonna tell you no, because we don't want to just throw

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it in there and it's wrong.You've tuned your stuff, you haven't tuned
other people's stuff. Yeah, youtune your components. So make sure you
go with that package in that route. But everything on their website is sort
of designed for those gradual upgrades orif you want to go big raut the
gate, they got you covered inthat too, But you could do it
step by step easy kind of navigatethe website or just dive into head Straight

(01:26:42):
for the Engines, the Head Straightfor the you know, full blown engine
kids. You guys offer it all, kind of do it all, which
what makes it really such a greatresource and it's depending on somebody's budget.
Right. If somebody's got a budgetfor five hundred and six hundred bucks,
the tuner is where you're gonna wantto tell somebody if they got let's just
call it a fifth gen Camaro likeyours. I would say, which if

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your budget is you know, threeor four thousand, then maybe we talk
about tuner cold there, cam shaft. You know. Then if you said,
hey, my budget's closer to ten, then you do tuner supercharger,
right yeah, in an install andthen if you want to get crazier,
then you know, add the camshaftin there, you know, add cylinder

(01:27:26):
heads in there. So yeah,man, and the night thing about those
those cars, and I know I'mstuck on that car, but that's a
that's a sweet spot car right there. It's affordable. It's a lot of
man, Yeah, it's affordable.There's a big production number. And let's
be honest, that car looks good. That's a good looking car, man,
it is you know, and you'reI'm gonna I'm gonna guess your you

(01:27:47):
still got the production short black inyour in your car, right, yes,
yeah? And that's my point isthose are durable. The ls engine
is durable, man, like itis it is. I don't want to
say it's both proof, but it'spretty damn slumps. Yeah, yeah it
is, man. It's a worthycontender for short and you know what's great
about those in my opinion those applicationsis you don't have to do a lot

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to them to make them really screamand really respond to some upgrades. Yeah.
I one hundred percent agree with that. Cool stuff. Man. All
right, So Dan, how dopeople again find you check out some of
the stuff you're offering. Livernoi MotorsportsThe best way yep, Livernoid Motorsports dot
com, or you can pick thephone up call us three one three five

(01:28:33):
six one fifty five hundred. Thereyou go. So, whether it's a
full long kit, whether it's startingout with the hey man, I got
this to upgrade or that to upgrade, these guys can definitely help you out.
Great team and great just resource.We'll have to have you on again,
man, because we've got about aboutthree minutes left. Would you mind

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giving us your perspective and or overviewon electric cars? Oh? Man,
I don't know if I could giveyou Yeah, I might be able to
give you five or six. Allright, yeah, so so you know
we own a Mustang mock e right, I think I've told you that before.
Yes, all right, I'm gonnaget a little political real quick.

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Everybody everybody thinks electric vehicles are moreenvironmentally friendly and there's zero emissions, right,
that's everybody thinks it's not true.You still got to charge it,
whether it's coal, nuclear, orsome kind of fossil fuel charging that thing,
right, yep, all right,But then you're like, well,
yeah, but that's only a littleportion of the charging. Well, fifty

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five percent of emissions come from thetires on a gasoline engine, not the
engine, right, forty five probablythirty percent is from the engine. So
when you're rolling down the freeway orwhatever you're doing, that electric car is
one hundred percent emissions are coming fromthe tires. Nobody wants to talk about
that, though, do they.Hmm, yeah, right, you forget

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about that. So no, right, And the reason that one hundred percent
of the emissions are is because theydon't classify anything else as emissions rolling down
the freeway. So now that othermost people don't know this, I know
it from first hand experience. Whatyou know, a battery and electric vehicle

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is super heavy, right, yep, so the car becomes super heavy right
now, instead of getting forty thousandmiles at a set of tires, you
get twenty twenty five. So nownot only are you burning up the tires
faster, you're polluting in the airfaster and more. I don't know why

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it's not talked about more. I'mgiving you facts. This is not Dan's
opinion of fifty five percent. There'smultiple studies out there, and I can
provide resources to anybody if they want. When people when you see when you
say emissions from times, can youexplain that real quick? Well, yeah,
we'll think about it. The particulatescoming off the tire just going the

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air, right, You've got yeah, you've got oil, You've got all
kinds of bad things in a tire, so that they're made from what you
know, petroleum based products, sothat those emissions they're going right in the
air, on the ground, onpeople's stuff like that. That's a fact,

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right, Nobody's talking about that.Also, I remember I told you
they burned through tires faster. Soour macke when we bought it, had
summer only tires. We put newtires on that thing at thirteen thousand miles,
We're like, what, no,summer only tires will burn out faster.

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But because of the weight and becauseof the acceleration and torque of all
four tires, you're chewing the tiresup accelerating. Now, when you let
off the gas or pedal on electriccar, they actually have some resistance to
recharge the battery. So that's whythey burned through tires faster. Yeah,

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constant torque and constant deceleration charging thebattery. Yeah, good points. Again,
nobody talks about. I was justrecently at this electric car conference deal
being a keynote speaker, and oneof the big things that they were meaning
about that all the manufacturers are blindsidedby and something you'll I'm sure get a

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kick out of. When you're chargingbatteries in your you know, in your
shop or garage or whatever. Ifyou have a closed room and you got
a couple of batteries charging, whenyou walk into that room, what happens
You smell it? Right, youhave like there's chemicals in the air.
You know, I forgot what ACCIDthey labeled under Sophi're a casimic anyway,

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from the the charging of those batteries, those electronics being shoved into the plates,
they discharge a gas. Well,what's happening is electric car? Yeah,
electric cars are that Nobody considered thatgas permeating into the cab of that
car, and if you're stuck intraffic, the effect that that gas permeating

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into the cab has on a person, kids, all that stuff. Well,
now it's been all of a sudden, that's the Oh, we forgot
to look at this as critical asit is. Now. They're having a
lot of problems addressing that permeation ofthose chemicals because when you drive that battery
operating car really hard, gives offa lot more of that gas. There's

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a lot more charging in region,you know, in those electronics getting shoved
out of that battery into those motors, they discharge a gas as well,
that region like you were talking about, and then shoving those back into the
batteries. All of that gives agas and that gas is permeating into the
people in the cab when they're stuckin traffic. And it's just recently become

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a problem that always are dealing withand they're having a hard time dealing with
it. Yeah, and I'm notan electric car fan. I don't hate
them, though, Right, webought this thing to kind of think we
might work on it at work andtry to get ahead of the electronics of
it. But honestly, we've beenso busy with the gasoline stuff we really
haven't touched it, and I'm notsure we will, you know what I

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mean. Yeah, I at leastwant to be educated about it. That's
why we kind of got this Mustangmache. I don't know why they call
it a Mustang. That's the worstdecision I think for what ever made.
But right, don't get me started. The other thing is, I don't
think people realize how much power thesethings take to charge, right, Like

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it's sickening. I don't know,and I should have done this research.
I just thought about this the otherday. But I believe that battery in
that car could run your house forseveral days. I don't know how many
days it is, but I knowit's several. It ain't it's not.
Oh, it's you know, reallyeasy to charge. They're paying to charge.

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They take a lot of power,Yeah they do. There's like seven
They're like, they're like seven thousanddouble A batteries in the bottom of Tesla,
Like, you don't think that it'sgonna take a long time the charge,
it's stupid. I think there's somethinglike ninety kilollottes in the Mustang the
battery, and I think your houseis And I don't want to talk inaccurately,

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but I don't think you use muchmore than single digits of kilowatts the
whole day in your house. Yeah. I saw a thing online where a
guy was he had I think itwas a charging station. It had like
four maybe five cars being charged.And he was looking at the draw that
it was on the grid and itcompared that to the number of homes and

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he's like, your home is onlygoing to use a killer watt to to
killowatts a day? Really, ifyou're you know, if you're going to
work and coming back and you knowthese are it was burning Lake, you
know, it was like a likea thirty home subdivision. You know,
like three or four cars there.It was crazy. Yeah, exactly exactly.
I'll do it. I'll do aGoogle search real quick the average house

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and this is so I was wrong. It's not single digits and this is
just some Google random thing it's saying. It's about twenty five kilowatts a day
for twenty four hours. So whenI said a few days, you might
get four days, probably four daysof a typical homeowner to charge your car
one hundred percent in one night.That's crazy. Yeah, so a lot

(01:36:48):
of you know it's done empowering fourhomes for a day, you're basically one
home to charge that electric car.I mean, it's gonna kill the infrastructure
on the power grid. There's justno there's no way twenty percent of America
could have this. It just bro, we got it. We gotta cover
Man solar panels, Bro Solar,piss all the rage. All right,

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man, we love you. Bro. Living on your motorsports, we gotta
row. Hey, thanks so muchfor your time and as always, great
catching up. Man, see youmail. Living on the motorsports. We
gotta put the wheels on it,man, Mike Pettiford, go for the
number four, Go for it services. What's big for the week? Man,
Well, we're not going out tothe track tomorrow, so I guess
I'm gonna chill. Maybe get ona motorcycle, one of your fifteen corvettes

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and accessorized polo shirts. All right, man, I'm going to ask some
fun. Shout out to my boyJustin who's in town. Go to hang
with him, do some hot rideand stuff. I'm sending my race car
offs to Kentucky. That thing isfinally gonna get done. In the day
is the day to make it happen. All right, We'll see you guys
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