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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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are Joe Sunderman and Byron Larkin.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, I saw the applause last night during the game
during one of our timeouts. That's a special and obviously
a very We're very grateful for everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Night eighty seven to sixty six.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Coaching. You made a comment during the press conference where
you said you probably wouldn't get much sleep last night.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, my wife is here, she can attest to that.
I mean, I don't want to even feel sorry for me,
but yeah, I mean, and you know, normally those late
games are always hard, regardless and when you have little kids,
you never can sleep in. But yeah, that was a
tough one, and you know, honestly, more than anything, it's
just mad at myself, you know. I mean, I know
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it's early in the process, and I know we've got
so many new guys and Santa Clair is good and
I wanted to challenge us.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm not surprised we lost. I was just disappointed with.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
The way that we played our fans, you know, alumni,
former players. You guys deserve better than that. And you
know that was certainly the message to our team at
practice today. And you know, regardless of we win or lose,
we can't get beat to fifty to fifty balls, we
can't get beat to rebounds.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's not what this team is going to be all about.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Coach, you just finished your first home stand of the year,
three games, you're two point one.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, I haven't enjoyed it too much.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Uh, what do you like most about your team so far?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know, they're really good guys.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I will say that, like, you know, they came back today,
and you know, sometimes when you lose a game like that,
a coach will say we needed to be humbled, Like,
I don't think our guys need to be humbled.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
They're really good people. They want to win.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know, they came to Xavier to play at the
Centas in front of this amazing fan base and they're disappointed.
So you know, I think they care, which is very
very important. I think what they what they're seeing right
now is how hard it is to win at this level.
You know a lot of them came from kind of
the mid major ranks, and you know, I've been at
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all the levels, and the highest level is different. It's
just is and you know, we obviously have experienced it
in all of these games, whether exhibition or Santa Clara,
Lemoyne and Maris. But you walk into like Herb Sendek
said to me, and coach Sendek's been a friend for
a long time, but like he walked in, he goes, man,
this place is amazing. You guys are so lucky. And
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I said, we are lucky. We got a lot of
work to do.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But uh, that brings out the best in the opponent
as well, coach.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
And then after the game, Trake Harrow and Roddy Anderson
came out and just addressed the media. Trey his his
mindset and his attitude. You could tell he was really
really ticked off. What what his I guess you you
want that kind of attitude after experiencing something like that.
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Is he one of the leaders on the team that
you know that that you're looking to set the tone
to to get this thing going in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You know, I don't know if it when you have
when you start from scratch and you don't have any
you know, returners that played last year.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't know if I'm looking for leadership just yet.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I love the fact that he's angry after a game,
but honestly, to me, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I want to see it in practice every day.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And I'm not saying I don't with Trey, but you know,
the media that stuff to me is just words. It's
it's come in the next day and work like that
was the message after the game was like, obviously we
have a lot of work to do, and we can
be mad and we can be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Which we all were, but what are you going to
do tomorrow at noon? And we worked really hard today.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So they showed me that, so you know, I mean,
it's a work in progress. You got so many new
guys and you're trying to figure out the chemistry part
of it. And a loss can either bring you together
or pull you apart. And that's our first one and
we'll see how we respond at Iowa.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, Chemistry in a situation like that, I think can
be used whether you pull together or you say a
pool apart. My guess is watching this team practice since July,
that they'll pull together. They're those type of individuals.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
They're really good people.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Now there's a competitiveness to the game and you know,
being able to kind of compete your way out of
it that I don't know. You know, they're all new,
so the chemistry thing is very, very different. You used
to build it where it was two to three years
in the making, and you know, you go through a
tough stretch and you talk about remember last year and
we got it. You don't have those point of references anymore.
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But everybody's dealing with that. Sim Xavier is the only
one that's dealing with it. So they are high character guys,
but you know, they have to understand that it's not
okay to get beat to a loose ball. It's not
okay to get out rebounded every single game. I don't
care if you're a good guy or not. Go grab
the ball, you know, And that's something we're certainly harping
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on moving forward.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You can practice today. Obviously you you watched the game.
I'm sure multiple times. Was practice structured to address last
night's game?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh yeah, it was not.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
It was not a fun expen Sure it wasn't fun.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, it's you know, I I want that in order
to build a winning team. You want them to feel
pain when they lose. And they felt pain today and
so did I and so did everybody.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But it's not in a bad way.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But it's just, you know, like they gotta hate it,
you know, they gotta hate losing and again, not talk
about it, but feel that pain in practice.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And I thought they did a really good job today.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I remember those practices when you know, after you you
lose in a bad way and you're you're you're stretching
getting ready for practice, and then the managers bring out
the basketballs on this rack and then the coach says, no,
we won't be needing those basketballs. Did you get a
really bad feeling in your stomach, like, oh, he's just
gonna run the crap out of us. You know, I
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hate those.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We practiced in the practice gym today because the women
were using the main gym and the treadmills were right
near the practice gym, and I said, perfect, we put
those to use.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Coach, And you talk about starting from scratch, twelve new
players on your team, and it please explain this to me.
Santa Claara had a player, Terry Darlin.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It was very good.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I think he had eight points and six rebounds. He
played two years in the G League. And I understand
Louisville has the player from the G League, and I
was just informed that BYU has the player from the
G League that's played two years in the G League.
Could you explain how that can be?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
How much time? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I mean no, I can't explain. It's in explaining. At
the end of the day, what you know, what the
NCAA is worried about is getting suit and they really
kind of save the n c I feel bad for them,
like I'm not.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
They're they're good people until.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
They get legislative you know, government congressional support.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
There's they're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And so these G League guys are basically saying, I
left out of high school, I went to the G League,
I didn't play in the NBA, I should be eligible
to basically go make money in college. And it's insanity,
and it's nobody feels sorry for the coaches that we're
just like we're the most unsympathetic people on the planet.
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But uh, it is certainly getting harder and harder to
build a program, and then all of a sudden you
get told two weeks ago, oh, you could take G
League kids, and you know, we went against one last
night and he looked like a man out there. So
we're keeping all options open, you know, as I said before,
we're we're not the only program that's dumbfounded by everything.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So it's not like it's just a zaber or a thing,
but it is. Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know if sad to see is the right word,
but it's it's a whole new world right now and
it's really different.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
So that so I assume that's what we're going to
see now an onslaught of G League players coming back
to playing college, I would assumed.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, and the hard part.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And not to speak for herb Sendek, but like, how
does the kid that they brought in and said, hey,
you're going to play right away field when all of
a sudden, oh, we brought a twenty three year old in, Like, man,
I would be really weird, you know, But I mean,
we're all trying to get an advantage, and we're trying
to gain an edge as best we can, and it's
just the goalpost, keep moving. You know, this has nothing
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to do with the outcome of last night, so I'm
not complaining. But it's building a team right now, is
it's it's very, very complicated.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Coach. I'm not sure you would even know this, but
if you sign a G League player, say next week,
can they play next day or they have to wait
the next semester, second semester, so you can mid December,
mid December.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And there's a couple that we're looking at right now
just to see.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And you know, a lot of it comes down to
money and you know resources and how much money do
you have. I mean, it's it's I think people have
to understand it's pro sports. It just is what it is.
Everybody's on a one year contract. They're not on three
to five year contracts. And times are changing. But you know,
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adapter die.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
As they say, coach, do you think in moving forward,
you think we'll see multiple year contracts from players?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I think that hopefully now, It's not as prevalent as
you would think. So if if I told you Byron,
you can come play for me for for two years, but.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm gonna have a massive buyout.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
For you to leave, may consider it coach.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, we could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Use them, by the way, but like or go to
the other place, and you have no buyout, you'd probably
choose the other place.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, these guys their power.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And their leverage is freedom of movement, you know, and
in all of business, your everybody's trying to acquire leverage.
And the players have it right now. And I don't
fault them for it, but you know it needs to
be more prevalent because it's not fair to the school.
You know, it's it's not And I try to harp
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to the players as much as I can. Xavi is
giving you a lot. Xavier is giving you a lot.
Do not forget it. And I mean, I think our
guys are appreciative, but just understand what comes with that.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You're going to class. You know, you're going on time.
This is your job.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You're going to You're gonna represent this university the right
way because you know you've got a great opportunity right now.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Coach, as you look back to the game last night,
twenty point scored in the first half, forty eight in
the second half, and you had the weave on the
perimeter in the in the first half, it seemed hard
for the guards to turn the corner. They were trapping
quite a bit. How do you a mitigate that? You
need a presence in the post to kind of keep
them a little bit on edge so they're not so
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eager to come out and press the guards or talk
about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, And unfortunately we tried to go in there, and
you know, we dropped a couple of balls. We bobbled
it and you know, because we had talked about listen,
like the way that they're playing, you got to throw
the ball inside. And we didn't really capitalize off it
a lot, you.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Know, but we were trying.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You know, I think the biggest thing you have to
do is just be willing to attack their pressure with force.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And that's how Roddy had a great second half, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I mean, Roddy's got the ability to go buy people
and when they're going to pressure you ninety four feet,
you got to be able to get in the paint
and make something happen, and he was certainly willing.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
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Speaker 4 (13:10):
So it's the very last time out of the game
under the four minute mark. Yesterday, I noticed in the
huddle you were animated exhorting your players, which is what
a coach is will do with those situations. What was
your message to the team at that point you kind
of were starting to make a little bit of a run,
get knocked ten points off their lead and started the play.
I'm going to say more of your system of basketball.
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I mean, I don't really remember.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, but I'm sure I was just imploring them
to keep fighting, you know. I think again, I was
disappointed with the effort, whether it's loose balls, rebounding, you know,
it's just don't go down without a fight, you know,
And they tried, certainly, you know, the game shifted. It
was it was early, but it was a six point game,
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and Trey and Anthony got screwed up on a simple
switch that shouldn't never resulted in a wide open basket.
For whatever reason, they didn't communicate it made a three.
Then we went down and turned it over like and
that kind of blew the game open. So it's just
these little things that we got to get better at.
But you know, I mean, I don't remember what exactly
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I said, but I'm certainly trying to set the tone
with some emotion and some passion to put, you know,
pour our heart and soul into this thing.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
How do you get a team? How do you practice
the team to get the fifty to fifty balls? It's
just will and desire and just playing with a fire.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You know. You may maybe you gotta do some old
school drills, you know, and we did.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That for those roll the ball out and die for it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, and like you try to stay away from that
because you don't want guys to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But you know, we had an old school practice today.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Coach, you talked a little bit about this Roddy Anderson.
I thought he had He scored twenty five points in
the second half, twenty nine in the game, in the
second half, he played like like his hair was on fire.
And in the first half, your team has consistently had
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a hard time going in the first ten minutes of
the half to get double figures. Is a guy like Roddy,
can you get him going earlier? Is that the conversations
you're having with him, since you're having a hard time
scoring in the first half of the of the first half,
first ten minutes of the first half, is what can
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you do to get him going earlier in some of
your other guys to score more points, to establish more
momentum early.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
In the game.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, I mean, you know Roddy obviously. Now, I mean,
there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Much good to the game, but that was the only
thing I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
The second half Roddy was just you know, he was
being aggressive and he was attacking, and.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You have to do that if they're going to pick
you up full. So he did a good job there.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know, I think Mirror will have the ability to
do that when he gets healthy. I mean, he's fresh
off of being out of Cup months, so I didn't
want to play him too much.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
In that game.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I even think Isaiah, although he missed some open threes,
like he has the ability to get to the rim
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Obviously, Maleak's got to be better, right, He's gonna get
going more, play with a little bit more pace early
in the game. But yeah, we've started slow in a
lot of these. I'm I'm worried about that game. The beginning, middle,
and end all of it really bothered me. So it
wasn't like it was one part of it. So I
think every first four timeouts since we've played the three
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games we've been losing. Uh, So we obviously we've switched lineups,
We've done all those things, So keep arping on it.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Coaching, you talked about after the game about trying to
help out some of these players like Malik Messina more
or trying to get them more involved offensively. What does
that mean you see, try to try to help them out?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, I mean he can't play in the game and
play twenty one minutes and not shoot a shot like
you can't do that. He was our leading scorer and
so you know, I don't know if help encourage, hold
him accountable, you know what, however you want to call it,
but he can't do that. He's too good of a
player and he's too important to the team. And you know,
they were big, they were physical, they were they were
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a good team. But I can assure you when when
we go out Iowa, it's going to look the same,
and so is Georgia, and so is Clemson, and so
is West Virginia. So we've got to we've got to
grow up physically very quick because it's coming.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
How to excuse me, Joe, How did he respond today after?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I mean sure, he was disappointed with the way he played,
and everybody should be this. I'm a disappointed the way
I coached, So we all were, but everybody came back
to work in Theleik especially and they were all great today.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You know, when you talked about Malik and you watch
the game that he played, was there opportunities there for
him to make a cut or make a play that
he just didn't seize.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Okay, I mean again, it was the I don't know
the exact number that he shot the game before, but
he scored a lot of the game before and it
was the same offense.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You definitely want him shoot the ball because his jump
shot is a thing of beauty in my opinion. You know,
it spends nice. He has a nice stark on it,
and he's an athletic player. He's very very talented. You know, I'm, I'm,
I know your reaction to this next comment. I thought
Anthony Robinson gave me some glimpse into the future. He
posts up on the right side, came into the lane
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with a left hand jump hook, got Foult hit a
couple of free throws. If he can repeat that from
both sides with his right and left hand and get
a little bank shot turned into the baseline, he could
be very, very difficult to guard. Yeah, it was a
long I know, it's a long road.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, I was telling Byron this. The hard part about
the new world of our profession is when you look
at Anthony and Pop and even Cason, who were red shirting.
You would have said in the old days, like, oh man,
in a year or two, they're going to be really,
really good. But everybody's on one year contracts and nobody
really knows what the future is gonna hold.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
And I don't know with Anthony or Popp or whoever.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
But you know, we're way more into this like now, now, now, now,
even the coaches, well, you know, it's not just the
fans that are doing that, but guys like him, they're
gonna be good in time. It's not always gonna look beautiful,
but I can promise you all three of those guys,
Case and Pop and Anthony, they're working their butts off
to continue to progress and get better.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I thought last night for Santa Clair, the fact they
brought five or six players back from last year's team
that had won twenty games, Yeah, was significant as opposed
to trying to patch eleven or twelve together immediately.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I mean, I I don't want to sound like the
coach is complaining, but I hope we're not signing twelve
guys every year.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Well, that's your goal is to retain.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you got to retain the
right one so in the in the best non complaining
way possible. This year is unique for a head coach.
It's not it's not a you know, we're gonna be
judged every time we play.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But when you inherit a program that's.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Got one guy back who didn't even play last year,
it's gonna take some time. When you go through a
year of it and you evaluate what's in your program,
you get a true high school class like we're going
through right now.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
We're really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And then you get a true evaluation of the portal,
you're gonna make a jump.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It just it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Is gonna be a new jersey going up in the
rafters when we come back, we'll talk about it. They're
gonna crash up there a little bit viron and you
with your number twenty three, Well all right, we'll talk
about which players are having a jerseys retired. This is
the Richard Patino Coaches Show from Dilly Bistro and Maryman
not fifty five KRC and the Varsity Network. Welcome back
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Speaker 4 (21:03):
Two Holloway's numbers going to be retired Byron number fifty two. God, yeah.
He scored eight hundred and thirty three points. He had
five hundred and fifty assist and he was clutch. I
know you love watching him play.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
He was probably the coolest guy under pressure that haz
ever wore a Zaber uniform. I mean he was he
and he got better and better every year, and he
was one of the best guards in the country by
the time he was done in Xavier.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Now coach Patino since spent some time as an assistant
in Florida and I said, you know two Halloway's number.
He said fifty two. So that's impressive that that many
years ago as an assistant, that he made that kind
of impression on you, that I still knew his number.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
He was a great player, and you know, I tell
the story all the time I played or I coached
on the Florida staff when they played in the Centa Center,
and when Greg called me about this job, I remember
that experience and it was a huge fact and taking
this shot.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
All right, So that's to Holloway. It will be he
as jersey hanging from the rafters on January the twenty
fourth is one they're going to pull it up there,
and also Trayvon Blewett and Romayne Soada will have their
jerseys retired in the future. Dates have not been picked
yet as to one of those who opened the rafters.
So some really stellar names up there Byron to go
along with.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yours, big time, big time guys.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It's good to see. Yes, Coach, you mentioned about mir Pana.
I think he can help you a lot, and I
just like the fact that he could buy the initial defender.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
That's the biggest thing is it's not that all and
even Moleigue are bad players or fill up, but they're
different type of players. Where Roddy, if pressured, can go
buy you, Mirror, if pressured, can go buy you. You know,
the other guys are good in different type of ways.
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But in a game like last night, you needed that
because they were legitimately picking us up nine four feet.
And that's why Roddy was really good last night was
he had that ability to do it. Mirror had two
practices leading up to the game. That's why I only
played him five minutes. So his athleticism, his speed, once
he gets back in shape, hopefully he can really help us.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
But a guy like that can set up your shooters
like Messina Moore, you know, all right, so they could
go make everybody hopefully you know, as you would schedule
out or kind of playing it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean you're playing Saint John's.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You have to be able to go buy that pressure,
you know, Marquette whatever, like, you have to go make
plays and mirror in time when he gets healthy, pizzato
when he comes back.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Like those things will all certainly.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Help coach stand on the guards all right. Against Santa
Clara was zero for six and he you know, the
previous game, he had a big game offensively. Kind of
evaluate how he played offensively against South Carolina or Santa Clair.
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Did you like the shots he was taking or was
he just not not making them?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Uh? He was trying to get to the basket.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He shot one floater that was weird, but honestly, at
the time that shot blocker was in the way, and
you know, I pulled him and I'm like, what did
you just do? But when I rewatched it, I'm like,
I kind of get it because if he had gone
a little bit closer, that guy would have probably blocked it.
But you know, the thing about all that I love
is he's got great fight and toughness and he wants
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to make things happen. So yeah, I mean, he didn't
play a great game, but I don't think anyone played
a great game, but you know, he he he.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Wanted it very very bad, and he's gonna learn from it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
And is he better off the ball or or with
the ball, because I've seen you play him both.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean I've tinkered with lineups more in three games
than I think I did in four years in New Mexico.
So I'm trying which way to figure out a combination.
I think all is probably better off the ball, but
you know, when you have rotting and all together, that's
a pretty small perimeter and that could be a bit
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of an issue like rebounding and defending, you know, so
trying to figure it all out.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
You said you've done more coaching in the first three
games here as a Xavier head coach than maybe you've
done in the past two years as far as making
adjustments and need to make in game maneuvers.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it it just kind of is
what it is. I mean, I was telling somebody who
had walked up just about you know, we won back
to back championships at New Mexico and we had talent,
but we had retention, and that's the key.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
We had older.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Guys who had been in the program. They cared about
winning a championship for New Mexico. Hopefully we get guys
in this program that are going to care about it,
but it just you're not gonna be able to get
that until you kind of go through a little bit
of time. But yeah, yeah, I mean I'm trying to
kind of put all the pieces together because I don't
have a point of reference because these guys haven't played
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together before. So I can promise you when we play Iowa,
the starting lineup's gonna look different again.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Coach, talking about one of your guys who I think
has been probably your most consistent player is Trey Carroll.
Trey's averaging fourteen points a game. He's shooting a good
percentage from the field. He's three for nine from three,
eighty three percent from the pre throw line. He's playing
thirty one minutes a game. I think that's tops for
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minutes played along with Roddy. How is that Trey progressing?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, I mean, I think he's going to get better
and better. He's a trade's a good player, you know,
like everybody. The defense, the rebounding has got to get better.
But from an offensive standpoint, you know, he's obviously a
bigger player, but he can go get a shot. He
can go score in a variety of ways where you
don't have to manufacture it all the time. He can
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go left, he can go right, he can make a three, obviously,
he can make it free throw.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So offensively, very very gifted.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But but like everybody else, guarding the ball's got to
be the better. He gets spun around a little bit.
Technique wise, we're working on.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But yeah, he's a good player and he's important piece.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I know you're working on your rebounding. Also, as you
watch the tapes of the game, what does Xavier need
to do on a more consistent basis even up the
rebounding stats. Rebound of basketball.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, grab the basket of the basketball.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
That simple, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's it's that simple. I mean it's I think Joe Mozoula,
the head coach.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay, go ahead with Joe.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Somebody asked him a question and a couple of weeks ago,
like how do you improve your rebounding?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
His answer was great, it was fine.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Five guys at a rebound And you know, we we
had moments last night that were truly regrettable and I
was sick to my stomach. My wife can tell you
all night watching Santa Clara look like you know, an
NBA team against us. We just we gotta be better.
I get a coaching better because that's just effort and toughness,
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and you know it's on me like I own it,
like I gotta I gotta bring pull that out of
them because guys are coming into our building and out
rebounding us. What do you What do you think St?
John's and you kind are going to try to do
when we play them?
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Speaker 4 (28:52):
Coach for signing data. Is it the signing day tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I believe it's tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yes, it so. I don't know how much you can
talk about anything, But is there any news?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I mean we I can't talk specifics. I probably could
and just sue if they try to punish me, because.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
That's what everybody else does.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But I won't talk about it because I don't want
to cause any more drama in my life. But we're
really excited about I think people have heard the news
of somebody that will sign. We've still got some irons
in the fire on one or two other guys.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, Again, I look at it, there's.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Kind of three seasons in recruiting. Recruiting now I don't
know if it's even recruiting anymore, but high school retention
of what's in your program, and then transfer portal. Last year,
obviously we didn't have the opportunity to recruit high school kids.
We didn't have the opportunity to retain. Everybody was gone
when I got the job, and then we hit the
portal hard. So in an ideal world, one or two
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high school kids, retain, maybe five or six if you can,
and then maybe sign.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Three or four in the portal.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Have that blend, you know, And obviously we're trying to
get that ball rolling now.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Coach, you prioritize one one of those three parts over
the other.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It depends on depends on the team, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I mean, I could make a funny joke about last
night and not being eager to retain, but you know,
it depends on the makeup of your team, Like, we've
got some good young players and it sounds crazy, but
will evaluate, you know, I mean, everybody's on one year deals.
I hate it. I don't like talking this way. This
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isn't what I signed up for.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
But this is what we have to do to be competitive.
And so.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know, you want them to have great years, but
you have to evaluate and take the emotion out of
it and in the spring and see what they want
financially and see what you're willing to do. I mean,
my head's gonna explode talking about it.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
But yeah, I really believe. You know, you've got to
have a competitive nil.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You have to have it, and then that gives you
opportunities to make these tough decisions moving forward.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Coach.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
One of the things you did when you brought in
twelve guys that you brought in almost half of your
guys are sophomore transfers. Pizzato pop in Jui all right,
Anthony Robinson and uh I'm forgetting one but yeah, yeah, Jovann.
So that was done with the intention of being able
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to kind of retain them.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yes, no, I mean, I think you know, again, this
sounds insane. I was provided a budget to build a team.
So my number one goal was stay within the budget.
I don't get fired before coaching a game, you know.
So that's what I did. And you know, the older
guys are again this sounds insane, but they're more expensive,
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and so we tried to find some value in what
we had financially. And then yes, if they are good
enough and they help us and they want to stay,
we would love that. But you have to provide value
to as a player. Like as much as the coaches
complain about all this, like I don't know if the
players know because they're so young and kind of ignorance
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is bliss when you're that young, but scary times for
them as well. And you know, so I hope we
have some really good conversations in the spring.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Coach, how do you decide when you say, okay, I
want to assign this guy. He's playing at a different school,
Like what what kind of tools that you used to
evaluate a player before you bring them bring them in?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well, the number one thing that I asked my staff
is how much is it going to cost? I mean,
it just it is what it is. And the problem
is the agents are all lying. You know, they're doing
their jobs, but there's no there's no database like in coaching.
Now we're a private school, a little bit different, but
the majority of the coaches.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
If Greg Christopher wanted to go out and hire.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Me at New Mexico, he knew what I was making,
so nobody was going to lie to him because he'd
be like, no, no, no, this is State University. I know
exactly what you're making. The problem is nobody knows anybody's making.
And if I was an agent, I do the same
thing too. They're lying, you know, they're they're saying, no,
he makes this so to get a little bit more money,
like doesn't mean they're bad people. Like, so the first
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thing I look for is, well, for one, it's what
do you need? And it'll be clearer now next year
versus when you have no players besides Roddy of what
you need and then you can kind of okay, like
we feel like we got that in the program.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
We don't need to add that. We're gonna go add that.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But yeah, I mean, the number one question I asked
my staff is what's the ballpark?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What's the range here? And they'll always tell me, oh.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I think we can get them between three hundred and
five hundred thousand. I said, well, then they're going to
say five hundred thousand, so stop saying that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I mean, that's what it comes down to. So again
I'm you know, it's a different world right now. It
really is.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Coach. You had mentioned you thought this past recruiting year
was an expensive year. If I understood you correctly, you
still feel that way that it maybe won't be as
as wild coming up, or is that maybe not the case.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
What happened was there was the whole talk of the
House settlement passing, and so it was approved, and I
think it was going to go into play June first.
So what happened was when it approved, all the schools said,
we are going to break the bank for this year
because there won't be a cap. In theory, there's a
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cap next year for twenty two point five million. Doc
the Biggie doesn't deal with as much like we're not
spending that amount of money. But football schools are gonna
be in trouble a little bit with majority of football
is going to get about fifteen million, and then maybe
men's basketball will get like three and a half and
then the other sports or whatever. The question now becomes
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do collectives still exist. I think all of it is
not going to work. I really believe that, and I
think it's going to all fall through. And I truly
believe the numbers are never going to go down. Rarely
does pay go down. It always seems to go up.
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Speaker 5 (35:22):
Uh, you go on the road for the first time
all year against Iowa on Friday night? What do you
What do you know about him?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah? They're really good.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Their coach was at Drake and brought a lot of
his guys with him from Drake. Drake's like a mid
major in Des Moines, Iowa. So I'm that was probably
an easy transition. I tried to bring a couple of mind,
but that would have been our whole budget blowing through
a couple of those guys. Donovan Dentons threw Washington, but
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there there's continuity there because of that, and uh, it's
gonna be a very very tough game.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
They ever tried now eighty nine points a ball game.
So they is their pace? Is that indication of pace
or just maybe who's.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Actually they play an extremely slow pace. Their first game
was a blowout against Robert Morris. Western Illinois was a
little bit closer.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
But they're a really good team. And I was eight
years into Big Ten and I was never an easy
place to play coach.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
As you schedule out the rest of the week, Xavier
obviously flies to that game on Thursday. When do you
When do you practice on Thursday or do you wait
till you get to Iowa to practice?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I always like to practice here if I can, So
I don't know the exact time.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I think ten or eleven in the morning will go.
They're goin to go home quickly and pack and then
hop on the plane. I've always found that if you
travel all day and then say hey, we're going to practice,
it never is very effective.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
So we'll practice here. We will shoot around day of
at Iowa and see if we can go play a
great game.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
How was your practice on the day of a game
shoot around. Yeah, how long do you go for? An hour?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Fifty minutes? An hour at most?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
You know, you try to it depends like when you're
on the road, you try to get as many game
shots as possible, where when you're practicing in the sentas,
it's not as valuable because you're in there every day,
so you spend a little bit more time shooting on
the road than you would at home.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Gabriel Pizzato, I know he's out with the knee, but
he's to me, he seems like he's coming back and
fine fashion. Do you don't have any idea on his
timetable or do you just kind of figure it's going
to be January and that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I'm assuming early January, late December. You know, he looks great.
He's a great kid, but you don't know the pain
in his knee and all that stuff. He's not doing
a lot of that, but he's lifting, and you know,
it's hard on those kids to sit there and have
nothing to do, so we're eager for him to return.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Is he running at all?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Light run, No, not much, not much at all. He's
doing a lot of upper body stuff. His body looks good.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I mean he's taking advantage of that, but nothing yet
on the leg.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Coach. If you when you scout Iowa, you do that
as a group. I understand right as you guys have
been over that already as a staff, but not presented
to your team yet.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
We got in early today.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
We got in about seven thirty today and we watched
that disaster from last night and that wasn't a lot
of fun. And we really try to harp today on
us and we'll get in there early tomorrow. I've watched
both of their games and then I kind of watched
the game, and then I go back and I watch
all their offense. Then I watch all their defense and
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feel that out, and we'll put together a great game
plan moving forward.
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are Joe Sunderman and Byron Larkin.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, I saw the applause last night during the game
during one of our timeouts. That's a special and obviously
a very We're very grateful for everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Night eighty seven to sixty six.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Coaching. You made a comment during the press conference where
you said you probably wouldn't get much sleep last night.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, my wife is here, she can attest to that.
I mean, I don't want to even feel sorry for me,
but yeah, I mean, and you know, normally those late
games are always hard, regardless and when you have little kids,
you never can sleep in. But yeah, that was a
tough one, and you know, honestly, more than anything, it's
just mad at myself, you know. I mean, I know
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it's early in the process, and I know we've got
so many new guys and Santa Clair is good and
I wanted to challenge us.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm not surprised we lost. I was just disappointed with.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
The way that we played our fans, you know, alumni,
former players. You guys deserve better than that. And you
know that was certainly the message to our team at
practice today. And you know, regardless of we win or lose,
we can't get beat to fifty to fifty balls, we
can't get beat to rebounds.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's not what this team is going to be all about.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Coach, you just finished your first home stand of the year,
three games, you're two point one.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, I haven't enjoyed it too much.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Uh, what do you like most about your team so far?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know, they're really good guys.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I will say that, like, you know, they came back today,
and you know, sometimes when you lose a game like that,
a coach will say we needed to be humbled, Like,
I don't think our guys need to be humbled.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
They're really good people. They want to win.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know, they came to Xavier to play at the
Centas in front of this amazing fan base and they're disappointed.
So you know, I think they care, which is very
very important. I think what they what they're seeing right
now is how hard it is to win at this level.
You know a lot of them came from kind of
the mid major ranks, and you know, I've been at
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all the levels, and the highest level is different. It's
just is and you know, we obviously have experienced it
in all of these games, whether exhibition or Santa Clara,
Lemoyne and Maris. But you walk into like Herb Sendek
said to me, and coach Sendek's been a friend for
a long time, but like he walked in, he goes, man,
this place is amazing. You guys are so lucky. And
(03:17):
I said, we are lucky. We got a lot of
work to do.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But uh, that brings out the best in the opponent
as well, coach.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
And then after the game, Trake Harrow and Roddy Anderson
came out and just addressed the media. Trey his his
mindset and his attitude. You could tell he was really
really ticked off. What what his I guess you you
want that kind of attitude after experiencing something like that.
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Is he one of the leaders on the team that
you know that that you're looking to set the tone
to to get this thing going in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You know, I don't know if it when you have
when you start from scratch and you don't have any
you know, returners that played last year.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't know if I'm looking for leadership just yet.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I love the fact that he's angry after a game,
but honestly, to me, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I want to see it in practice every day.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And I'm not saying I don't with Trey, but you know,
the media that stuff to me is just words. It's
it's come in the next day and work like that
was the message after the game was like, obviously we
have a lot of work to do, and we can
be mad and we can be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Which we all were, but what are you going to
do tomorrow at noon? And we worked really hard today.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So they showed me that, so you know, I mean,
it's a work in progress. You got so many new
guys and you're trying to figure out the chemistry part
of it. And a loss can either bring you together
or pull you apart. And that's our first one and
we'll see how we respond at Iowa.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, Chemistry in a situation like that, I think can
be used whether you pull together or you say a
pool apart. My guess is watching this team practice since July,
that they'll pull together. They're those type of individuals.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
They're really good people.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Now there's a competitiveness to the game and you know,
being able to kind of compete your way out of
it that I don't know. You know, they're all new,
so the chemistry thing is very, very different. You used
to build it where it was two to three years
in the making, and you know, you go through a
tough stretch and you talk about remember last year and
we got it. You don't have those point of references anymore.
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But everybody's dealing with that. Sim Xavier is the only
one that's dealing with it. So they are high character guys,
but you know, they have to understand that it's not
okay to get beat to a loose ball. It's not
okay to get out rebounded every single game. I don't
care if you're a good guy or not. Go grab
the ball, you know, And that's something we're certainly harping
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on moving forward.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You can practice today. Obviously you you watched the game.
I'm sure multiple times. Was practice structured to address last
night's game?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh yeah, it was not.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
It was not a fun expen Sure it wasn't fun.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, it's you know, I I want that in order
to build a winning team. You want them to feel
pain when they lose. And they felt pain today and
so did I and so did everybody.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But it's not in a bad way.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But it's just, you know, like they gotta hate it,
you know, they gotta hate losing and again, not talk
about it, but feel that pain in practice.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And I thought they did a really good job today.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I remember those practices when you know, after you you
lose in a bad way and you're you're you're stretching
getting ready for practice, and then the managers bring out
the basketballs on this rack and then the coach says, no,
we won't be needing those basketballs. Did you get a
really bad feeling in your stomach, like, oh, he's just
gonna run the crap out of us. You know, I
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hate those.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We practiced in the practice gym today because the women
were using the main gym and the treadmills were right
near the practice gym, and I said, perfect, we put
those to use.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Coach, And you talk about starting from scratch, twelve new
players on your team, and it please explain this to me.
Santa Claara had a player, Terry Darlin.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It was very good.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I think he had eight points and six rebounds. He
played two years in the G League. And I understand
Louisville has the player from the G League, and I
was just informed that BYU has the player from the
G League that's played two years in the G League.
Could you explain how that can be?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
How much time? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I mean no, I can't explain. It's in explaining. At
the end of the day, what you know, what the
NCAA is worried about is getting suit and they really
kind of save the n c I feel bad for them,
like I'm not.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
They're they're good people until.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
They get legislative you know, government congressional support.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
There's they're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And so these G League guys are basically saying, I
left out of high school, I went to the G League,
I didn't play in the NBA, I should be eligible
to basically go make money in college. And it's insanity,
and it's nobody feels sorry for the coaches that we're
just like we're the most unsympathetic people on the planet.
(08:37):
But uh, it is certainly getting harder and harder to
build a program, and then all of a sudden you
get told two weeks ago, oh, you could take G
League kids, and you know, we went against one last
night and he looked like a man out there. So
we're keeping all options open, you know, as I said before,
we're we're not the only program that's dumbfounded by everything.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So it's not like it's just a zaber or a thing,
but it is. Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know if sad to see is the right word,
but it's it's a whole new world right now and
it's really different.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
So that so I assume that's what we're going to
see now an onslaught of G League players coming back
to playing college, I would assumed.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, and the hard part.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And not to speak for herb Sendek, but like, how
does the kid that they brought in and said, hey,
you're going to play right away field when all of
a sudden, oh, we brought a twenty three year old in, Like, man,
I would be really weird, you know, But I mean,
we're all trying to get an advantage, and we're trying
to gain an edge as best we can, and it's
just the goalpost, keep moving. You know, this has nothing
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to do with the outcome of last night, so I'm
not complaining. But it's building a team right now, is
it's it's very, very complicated.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Coach. I'm not sure you would even know this, but
if you sign a G League player, say next week,
can they play next day or they have to wait
the next semester, second semester, so you can mid December,
mid December.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And there's a couple that we're looking at right now
just to see.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And you know, a lot of it comes down to
money and you know resources and how much money do
you have. I mean, it's it's I think people have
to understand it's pro sports. It just is what it is.
Everybody's on a one year contract. They're not on three
to five year contracts. And times are changing. But you know,
(10:23):
adapter die.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
As they say, coach, do you think in moving forward,
you think we'll see multiple year contracts from players?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I think that hopefully now, It's not as prevalent as
you would think. So if if I told you Byron,
you can come play for me for for two years, but.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm gonna have a massive buyout.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
For you to leave, may consider it coach.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, we could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Use them, by the way, but like or go to
the other place, and you have no buyout, you'd probably
choose the other place.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, these guys their power.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And their leverage is freedom of movement, you know, and
in all of business, your everybody's trying to acquire leverage.
And the players have it right now. And I don't
fault them for it, but you know it needs to
be more prevalent because it's not fair to the school.
You know, it's it's not And I try to harp
(11:18):
to the players as much as I can. Xavi is
giving you a lot. Xavier is giving you a lot.
Do not forget it. And I mean, I think our
guys are appreciative, but just understand what comes with that.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You're going to class. You know, you're going on time.
This is your job.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You're going to You're gonna represent this university the right
way because you know you've got a great opportunity right now.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Coach, as you look back to the game last night,
twenty point scored in the first half, forty eight in
the second half, and you had the weave on the
perimeter in the in the first half, it seemed hard
for the guards to turn the corner. They were trapping
quite a bit. How do you a mitigate that? You
need a presence in the post to kind of keep
them a little bit on edge so they're not so
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eager to come out and press the guards or talk
about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, And unfortunately we tried to go in there, and
you know, we dropped a couple of balls. We bobbled
it and you know, because we had talked about listen,
like the way that they're playing, you got to throw
the ball inside. And we didn't really capitalize off it
a lot, you.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Know, but we were trying.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You know, I think the biggest thing you have to
do is just be willing to attack their pressure with force.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And that's how Roddy had a great second half, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I mean, Roddy's got the ability to go buy people
and when they're going to pressure you ninety four feet,
you got to be able to get in the paint
and make something happen, and he was certainly willing.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
To do that.
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Speaker 4 (13:10):
So it's the very last time out of the game
under the four minute mark. Yesterday, I noticed in the
huddle you were animated exhorting your players, which is what
a coach is will do with those situations. What was
your message to the team at that point you kind
of were starting to make a little bit of a run,
get knocked ten points off their lead and started the play.
I'm going to say more of your system of basketball.
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I mean, I don't really remember.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, but I'm sure I was just imploring them
to keep fighting, you know. I think again, I was
disappointed with the effort, whether it's loose balls, rebounding, you know,
it's just don't go down without a fight, you know,
And they tried, certainly, you know, the game shifted. It
was it was early, but it was a six point game,
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and Trey and Anthony got screwed up on a simple
switch that shouldn't never resulted in a wide open basket.
For whatever reason, they didn't communicate it made a three.
Then we went down and turned it over like and
that kind of blew the game open. So it's just
these little things that we got to get better at.
But you know, I mean, I don't remember what exactly
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I said, but I'm certainly trying to set the tone
with some emotion and some passion to put, you know,
pour our heart and soul into this thing.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
How do you get a team? How do you practice
the team to get the fifty to fifty balls? It's
just will and desire and just playing with a fire.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You know. You may maybe you gotta do some old
school drills, you know, and we did.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That for those roll the ball out and die for it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, and like you try to stay away from that
because you don't want guys to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But you know, we had an old school practice today.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Coach, you talked a little bit about this Roddy Anderson.
I thought he had He scored twenty five points in
the second half, twenty nine in the game, in the
second half, he played like like his hair was on fire.
And in the first half, your team has consistently had
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a hard time going in the first ten minutes of
the half to get double figures. Is a guy like Roddy,
can you get him going earlier? Is that the conversations
you're having with him, since you're having a hard time
scoring in the first half of the of the first half,
first ten minutes of the first half, is what can
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you do to get him going earlier in some of
your other guys to score more points, to establish more
momentum early.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
In the game.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, I mean, you know Roddy obviously. Now, I mean,
there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Much good to the game, but that was the only
thing I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
The second half Roddy was just you know, he was
being aggressive and he was attacking, and.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You have to do that if they're going to pick
you up full. So he did a good job there.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know, I think Mirror will have the ability to
do that when he gets healthy. I mean, he's fresh
off of being out of Cup months, so I didn't
want to play him too much.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
In that game.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I even think Isaiah, although he missed some open threes,
like he has the ability to get to the rim
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Obviously, Maleak's got to be better, right, He's gonna get
going more, play with a little bit more pace early
in the game. But yeah, we've started slow in a
lot of these. I'm I'm worried about that game. The beginning, middle,
and end all of it really bothered me. So it
wasn't like it was one part of it. So I
think every first four timeouts since we've played the three
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games we've been losing. Uh, So we obviously we've switched lineups,
We've done all those things, So keep arping on it.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Coaching, you talked about after the game about trying to
help out some of these players like Malik Messina more
or trying to get them more involved offensively. What does
that mean you see, try to try to help them out?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, I mean he can't play in the game and
play twenty one minutes and not shoot a shot like
you can't do that. He was our leading scorer and
so you know, I don't know if help encourage, hold
him accountable, you know what, however you want to call it,
but he can't do that. He's too good of a
player and he's too important to the team. And you know,
they were big, they were physical, they were they were
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a good team. But I can assure you when when
we go out Iowa, it's going to look the same,
and so is Georgia, and so is Clemson, and so
is West Virginia. So we've got to we've got to
grow up physically very quick because it's coming.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
How to excuse me, Joe, How did he respond today after?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I mean sure, he was disappointed with the way he played,
and everybody should be this. I'm a disappointed the way
I coached, So we all were, but everybody came back
to work in Theleik especially and they were all great today.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You know, when you talked about Malik and you watch
the game that he played, was there opportunities there for
him to make a cut or make a play that
he just didn't seize.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Okay, I mean again, it was the I don't know
the exact number that he shot the game before, but
he scored a lot of the game before and it
was the same offense.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You definitely want him shoot the ball because his jump
shot is a thing of beauty in my opinion. You know,
it spends nice. He has a nice stark on it,
and he's an athletic player. He's very very talented. You know, I'm, I'm,
I know your reaction to this next comment. I thought
Anthony Robinson gave me some glimpse into the future. He
posts up on the right side, came into the lane
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with a left hand jump hook, got Foult hit a
couple of free throws. If he can repeat that from
both sides with his right and left hand and get
a little bank shot turned into the baseline, he could
be very, very difficult to guard. Yeah, it was a
long I know, it's a long road.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, I was telling Byron this. The hard part about
the new world of our profession is when you look
at Anthony and Pop and even Cason, who were red shirting.
You would have said in the old days, like, oh man,
in a year or two, they're going to be really,
really good. But everybody's on one year contracts and nobody
really knows what the future is gonna hold.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
And I don't know with Anthony or Popp or whoever.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
But you know, we're way more into this like now, now, now, now,
even the coaches, well, you know, it's not just the
fans that are doing that, but guys like him, they're
gonna be good in time. It's not always gonna look beautiful,
but I can promise you all three of those guys,
Case and Pop and Anthony, they're working their butts off
to continue to progress and get better.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I thought last night for Santa Clair, the fact they
brought five or six players back from last year's team
that had won twenty games, Yeah, was significant as opposed
to trying to patch eleven or twelve together immediately.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I mean, I I don't want to sound like the
coach is complaining, but I hope we're not signing twelve
guys every year.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Well, that's your goal is to retain.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you got to retain the
right one so in the in the best non complaining
way possible. This year is unique for a head coach.
It's not it's not a you know, we're gonna be
judged every time we play.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But when you inherit a program that's.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Got one guy back who didn't even play last year,
it's gonna take some time. When you go through a
year of it and you evaluate what's in your program,
you get a true high school class like we're going
through right now.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
We're really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And then you get a true evaluation of the portal,
you're gonna make a jump.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It just it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Is gonna be a new jersey going up in the
rafters when we come back, we'll talk about it. They're
gonna crash up there a little bit viron and you
with your number twenty three, Well all right, we'll talk
about which players are having a jerseys retired. This is
the Richard Patino Coaches Show from Dilly Bistro and Maryman
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(20:46):
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Speaker 4 (21:03):
Two Holloway's numbers going to be retired Byron number fifty two. God, yeah.
He scored eight hundred and thirty three points. He had
five hundred and fifty assist and he was clutch. I
know you love watching him play.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
He was probably the coolest guy under pressure that haz
ever wore a Zaber uniform. I mean he was he
and he got better and better every year, and he
was one of the best guards in the country by
the time he was done in Xavier.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Now coach Patino since spent some time as an assistant
in Florida and I said, you know two Halloway's number.
He said fifty two. So that's impressive that that many
years ago as an assistant, that he made that kind
of impression on you, that I still knew his number.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
He was a great player, and you know, I tell
the story all the time I played or I coached
on the Florida staff when they played in the Centa Center,
and when Greg called me about this job, I remember
that experience and it was a huge fact and taking
this shot.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
All right, So that's to Holloway. It will be he
as jersey hanging from the rafters on January the twenty
fourth is one they're going to pull it up there,
and also Trayvon Blewett and Romayne Soada will have their
jerseys retired in the future. Dates have not been picked
yet as to one of those who opened the rafters.
So some really stellar names up there Byron to go
along with.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yours, big time, big time guys.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It's good to see. Yes, Coach, you mentioned about mir Pana.
I think he can help you a lot, and I
just like the fact that he could buy the initial defender.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
That's the biggest thing is it's not that all and
even Moleigue are bad players or fill up, but they're
different type of players. Where Roddy, if pressured, can go
buy you, Mirror, if pressured, can go buy you. You know,
the other guys are good in different type of ways.
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But in a game like last night, you needed that
because they were legitimately picking us up nine four feet.
And that's why Roddy was really good last night was
he had that ability to do it. Mirror had two
practices leading up to the game. That's why I only
played him five minutes. So his athleticism, his speed, once
he gets back in shape, hopefully he can really help us.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
But a guy like that can set up your shooters
like Messina Moore, you know, all right, so they could
go make everybody hopefully you know, as you would schedule
out or kind of playing it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean you're playing Saint John's.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You have to be able to go buy that pressure,
you know, Marquette whatever, like, you have to go make
plays and mirror in time when he gets healthy, pizzato
when he comes back.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Like those things will all certainly.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Help coach stand on the guards all right. Against Santa
Clara was zero for six and he you know, the
previous game, he had a big game offensively. Kind of
evaluate how he played offensively against South Carolina or Santa Clair.
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Did you like the shots he was taking or was
he just not not making them?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Uh? He was trying to get to the basket.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He shot one floater that was weird, but honestly, at
the time that shot blocker was in the way, and
you know, I pulled him and I'm like, what did
you just do? But when I rewatched it, I'm like,
I kind of get it because if he had gone
a little bit closer, that guy would have probably blocked it.
But you know, the thing about all that I love
is he's got great fight and toughness and he wants
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to make things happen. So yeah, I mean, he didn't
play a great game, but I don't think anyone played
a great game, but you know, he he he.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Wanted it very very bad, and he's gonna learn from it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
And is he better off the ball or or with
the ball, because I've seen you play him both.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean I've tinkered with lineups more in three games
than I think I did in four years in New Mexico.
So I'm trying which way to figure out a combination.
I think all is probably better off the ball, but
you know, when you have rotting and all together, that's
a pretty small perimeter and that could be a bit
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of an issue like rebounding and defending, you know, so
trying to figure it all out.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
You said you've done more coaching in the first three
games here as a Xavier head coach than maybe you've
done in the past two years as far as making
adjustments and need to make in game maneuvers.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it it just kind of is
what it is. I mean, I was telling somebody who
had walked up just about you know, we won back
to back championships at New Mexico and we had talent,
but we had retention, and that's the key.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
We had older.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Guys who had been in the program. They cared about
winning a championship for New Mexico. Hopefully we get guys
in this program that are going to care about it,
but it just you're not gonna be able to get
that until you kind of go through a little bit
of time. But yeah, yeah, I mean I'm trying to
kind of put all the pieces together because I don't
have a point of reference because these guys haven't played
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together before. So I can promise you when we play Iowa,
the starting lineup's gonna look different again.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Coach, talking about one of your guys who I think
has been probably your most consistent player is Trey Carroll.
Trey's averaging fourteen points a game. He's shooting a good
percentage from the field. He's three for nine from three,
eighty three percent from the pre throw line. He's playing
thirty one minutes a game. I think that's tops for
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minutes played along with Roddy. How is that Trey progressing?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, I mean, I think he's going to get better
and better. He's a trade's a good player, you know,
like everybody. The defense, the rebounding has got to get better.
But from an offensive standpoint, you know, he's obviously a
bigger player, but he can go get a shot. He
can go score in a variety of ways where you
don't have to manufacture it all the time. He can
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go left, he can go right, he can make a three, obviously,
he can make it free throw.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So offensively, very very gifted.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But but like everybody else, guarding the ball's got to
be the better. He gets spun around a little bit.
Technique wise, we're working on.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But yeah, he's a good player and he's important piece.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I know you're working on your rebounding. Also, as you
watch the tapes of the game, what does Xavier need
to do on a more consistent basis even up the
rebounding stats. Rebound of basketball.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, grab the basket of the basketball.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
That simple, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's it's that simple. I mean it's I think Joe Mozoula,
the head coach.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay, go ahead with Joe.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Somebody asked him a question and a couple of weeks ago,
like how do you improve your rebounding?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
His answer was great, it was fine.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Five guys at a rebound And you know, we we
had moments last night that were truly regrettable and I
was sick to my stomach. My wife can tell you
all night watching Santa Clara look like you know, an
NBA team against us. We just we gotta be better.
I get a coaching better because that's just effort and toughness,
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and you know it's on me like I own it,
like I gotta I gotta bring pull that out of
them because guys are coming into our building and out
rebounding us. What do you What do you think St?
John's and you kind are going to try to do
when we play them?
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Speaker 4 (28:52):
Coach for signing data. Is it the signing day tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I believe it's tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yes, it so. I don't know how much you can
talk about anything, But is there any news?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I mean we I can't talk specifics. I probably could
and just sue if they try to punish me, because.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
That's what everybody else does.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But I won't talk about it because I don't want
to cause any more drama in my life. But we're
really excited about I think people have heard the news
of somebody that will sign. We've still got some irons
in the fire on one or two other guys.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, Again, I look at it, there's.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Kind of three seasons in recruiting. Recruiting now I don't
know if it's even recruiting anymore, but high school retention
of what's in your program, and then transfer portal. Last year,
obviously we didn't have the opportunity to recruit high school kids.
We didn't have the opportunity to retain. Everybody was gone
when I got the job, and then we hit the
portal hard. So in an ideal world, one or two
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high school kids, retain, maybe five or six if you can,
and then maybe sign.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Three or four in the portal.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Have that blend, you know, And obviously we're trying to
get that ball rolling now.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Coach, you prioritize one one of those three parts over
the other.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It depends on depends on the team, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I mean, I could make a funny joke about last
night and not being eager to retain, but you know,
it depends on the makeup of your team, Like, we've
got some good young players and it sounds crazy, but
will evaluate, you know, I mean, everybody's on one year deals.
I hate it. I don't like talking this way. This
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isn't what I signed up for.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
But this is what we have to do to be competitive.
And so.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know, you want them to have great years, but
you have to evaluate and take the emotion out of
it and in the spring and see what they want
financially and see what you're willing to do. I mean,
my head's gonna explode talking about it.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
But yeah, I really believe. You know, you've got to
have a competitive nil.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You have to have it, and then that gives you
opportunities to make these tough decisions moving forward.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Coach.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
One of the things you did when you brought in
twelve guys that you brought in almost half of your
guys are sophomore transfers. Pizzato pop in Jui all right,
Anthony Robinson and uh I'm forgetting one but yeah, yeah, Jovann.
So that was done with the intention of being able
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to kind of retain them.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yes, no, I mean, I think you know, again, this
sounds insane. I was provided a budget to build a team.
So my number one goal was stay within the budget.
I don't get fired before coaching a game, you know.
So that's what I did. And you know, the older
guys are again this sounds insane, but they're more expensive,
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and so we tried to find some value in what
we had financially. And then yes, if they are good
enough and they help us and they want to stay,
we would love that. But you have to provide value
to as a player. Like as much as the coaches
complain about all this, like I don't know if the
players know because they're so young and kind of ignorance
(32:09):
is bliss when you're that young, but scary times for
them as well. And you know, so I hope we
have some really good conversations in the spring.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Coach, how do you decide when you say, okay, I
want to assign this guy. He's playing at a different school,
Like what what kind of tools that you used to
evaluate a player before you bring them bring them in?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well, the number one thing that I asked my staff
is how much is it going to cost? I mean,
it just it is what it is. And the problem
is the agents are all lying. You know, they're doing
their jobs, but there's no there's no database like in coaching.
Now we're a private school, a little bit different, but
the majority of the coaches.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
If Greg Christopher wanted to go out and hire.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Me at New Mexico, he knew what I was making,
so nobody was going to lie to him because he'd
be like, no, no, no, this is State University. I know
exactly what you're making. The problem is nobody knows anybody's making.
And if I was an agent, I do the same
thing too. They're lying, you know, they're they're saying, no,
he makes this so to get a little bit more money,
like doesn't mean they're bad people. Like, so the first
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thing I look for is, well, for one, it's what
do you need? And it'll be clearer now next year
versus when you have no players besides Roddy of what
you need and then you can kind of okay, like
we feel like we got that in the program.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
We don't need to add that. We're gonna go add that.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But yeah, I mean, the number one question I asked
my staff is what's the ballpark?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What's the range here? And they'll always tell me, oh.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I think we can get them between three hundred and
five hundred thousand. I said, well, then they're going to
say five hundred thousand, so stop saying that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I mean, that's what it comes down to. So again
I'm you know, it's a different world right now. It
really is.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Coach. You had mentioned you thought this past recruiting year
was an expensive year. If I understood you correctly, you
still feel that way that it maybe won't be as
as wild coming up, or is that maybe not the case.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
What happened was there was the whole talk of the
House settlement passing, and so it was approved, and I
think it was going to go into play June first.
So what happened was when it approved, all the schools said,
we are going to break the bank for this year
because there won't be a cap. In theory, there's a
(34:25):
cap next year for twenty two point five million. Doc
the Biggie doesn't deal with as much like we're not
spending that amount of money. But football schools are gonna
be in trouble a little bit with majority of football
is going to get about fifteen million, and then maybe
men's basketball will get like three and a half and
then the other sports or whatever. The question now becomes
(34:46):
do collectives still exist. I think all of it is
not going to work. I really believe that, and I
think it's going to all fall through. And I truly
believe the numbers are never going to go down. Rarely
does pay go down. It always seems to go up.
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Speaker 5 (35:22):
Uh, you go on the road for the first time
all year against Iowa on Friday night? What do you
What do you know about him?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah? They're really good.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Their coach was at Drake and brought a lot of
his guys with him from Drake. Drake's like a mid
major in Des Moines, Iowa. So I'm that was probably
an easy transition. I tried to bring a couple of mind,
but that would have been our whole budget blowing through
a couple of those guys. Donovan Dentons threw Washington, but
(35:54):
there there's continuity there because of that, and uh, it's
gonna be a very very tough game.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
They ever tried now eighty nine points a ball game.
So they is their pace? Is that indication of pace
or just maybe who's.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Actually they play an extremely slow pace. Their first game
was a blowout against Robert Morris. Western Illinois was a
little bit closer.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
But they're a really good team. And I was eight
years into Big Ten and I was never an easy
place to play coach.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
As you schedule out the rest of the week, Xavier
obviously flies to that game on Thursday. When do you
When do you practice on Thursday or do you wait
till you get to Iowa to practice?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I always like to practice here if I can, So
I don't know the exact time.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I think ten or eleven in the morning will go.
They're goin to go home quickly and pack and then
hop on the plane. I've always found that if you
travel all day and then say hey, we're going to practice,
it never is very effective.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
So we'll practice here. We will shoot around day of
at Iowa and see if we can go play a
great game.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
How was your practice on the day of a game
shoot around. Yeah, how long do you go for? An hour?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Fifty minutes? An hour at most?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
You know, you try to it depends like when you're
on the road, you try to get as many game
shots as possible, where when you're practicing in the sentas,
it's not as valuable because you're in there every day,
so you spend a little bit more time shooting on
the road than you would at home.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Gabriel Pizzato, I know he's out with the knee, but
he's to me, he seems like he's coming back and
fine fashion. Do you don't have any idea on his
timetable or do you just kind of figure it's going
to be January and that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I'm assuming early January, late December. You know, he looks great.
He's a great kid, but you don't know the pain
in his knee and all that stuff. He's not doing
a lot of that, but he's lifting, and you know,
it's hard on those kids to sit there and have
nothing to do, so we're eager for him to return.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Is he running at all?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Light run, No, not much, not much at all. He's
doing a lot of upper body stuff. His body looks good.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I mean he's taking advantage of that, but nothing yet
on the leg.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Coach. If you when you scout Iowa, you do that
as a group. I understand right as you guys have
been over that already as a staff, but not presented
to your team yet.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
We got in early today.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
We got in about seven thirty today and we watched
that disaster from last night and that wasn't a lot
of fun. And we really try to harp today on
us and we'll get in there early tomorrow. I've watched
both of their games and then I kind of watched
the game, and then I go back and I watch
all their offense. Then I watch all their defense and
(38:37):
feel that out, and we'll put together a great game
plan moving forward.
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