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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Welcome to the Dilipistro and Marimana and the Richard Patino
Coaches Show. I'm Joe Sunderman along with Byron Larkin and
the head coach of the Xavier Musketsiers Richard Patino. The
Musketeers are one to zero in the season knocked off
Maris yesterday sixty six to sixty two and the phone
number to call in if you'd like to talk with
Coach Patino is five one three seven four nine fifty
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five hundred seven four nine fifty five hundred Coach, congratulations
on your first win as a Xavier head coach.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There's nothing worse than doing a radio show app or
a loss.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So I lived to see another day, but yeah, thank you,
I mean it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
There was like a variety of emotions when you kind
of walk into a new job, into a new building,
and all good emotions.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
But it was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We did a lot of good things, did a lot
of bad things, you know, but that's to be expected
early in the process, but certainly happy to walk away
with a win.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Coach, you talk a lot about chemistry, trying to build
chemistry and your program, and how do you go about
doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I think you get it's gonna happen over time. If
you think about it. That was the first game that
group ever won together. There was no pairing in there
that well, I guess Philip and Jovan with me at
New Mexico, but that whole group had never sat in
a locker room and played a real game together.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So it's gonna happen in time.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You've got to do your very very best to try
to simulate kind of game situations, but it's hard when
you have so many new guys but so much to
draw from, whether it was the exhibition games to last
night of game pressure, how they respond, you know, and
playing in front of your fans is amazing, but there's
also stress in that as well for our guys, So
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you know.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's just gonna happen in time, And I know.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That's kind of hard because you don't have as much
time anymore because they're kind of all on one year
kind of deals and then they move on or whatever.
But you got to do it as quickly as you can.
But these games are very valuable. You got to find
a way to win them.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Coach, do you do things away from the court to
bill chemistry?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, I mean, I you know, we do stuff over
the summer, but I think, honestly, what I pride myself
in is the culture that we have on a daily
basis that really fosters that chemistry. I think any player
in our locker room would tell you I'm very approachable.
I had several guys in my office today meeting with
them individual meetings. The staff that I hire are all
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really good people who I think they understand we're here
to help them. So, you know, you do things over
the summer in the fall, but you really want it
to just kind of happen organically so that they're real.
And I think that's the thing that we do a
really good job of is like the players know that
we care about them, and that's really really important. If
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they don't feel that, it doesn't matter. You could go bowling,
you could go to the movies. If they don't believe
that you care about them, nothing matters.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And I know those guys know that we care about it.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I totally agree with that. I mean, if they know
you can care about if they know you care about them,
you can kick them in the butt. Yeah, and you
not lead, you not lose them, and you can coach
them a little bit harder because there's that is definitely
a real thing with a coach and player relationship.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You have to have it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's very, very important. The players really want it, you know,
they value it. They want to have individual meetings. They
want to have, you know, a direct line to the
head coach. And I've always been that way, you know,
like I'll text them, Hey, come up to my office.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I'll come down and see you or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And that's more valuable than that of bounds, play a
pick and roll defense, to scout and report.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
That's the most important thing.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Now, coach, do you meet with each individual player? I
know some coaches do a little different. They like, well,
this coach has the guards, this guy has the bigs.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
How do you so I meet with them all?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
A lot of my meetings will be the ones that
maybe didn't play well the night before and just reassuring
them of, Okay, this is why you didn't play well,
and this is where we can help you and so on.
So you know, the more I do it, players are different.
Now there is a time for sure when you can
kind of put them on blast in front of everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But if I.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Can find a way to get them before that, I've
always found it's more powerful.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So yeah, I mean I meet with all of them.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, I'm not a guard coach, big man coach,
like they're all my players, and you know, we try
to just get to them at some capacity every day.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What do you what do you do immediately after the game?
You were mentioned you're not a coach that spends a
lot of time like right after the game. You kind
of let yourself cool down, the team cooled down. We
appreciate you gave us a call right away yesterday. We
enjoyed that first interview after a win. That was great.
But you don't spend a lot of time.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
No, you know, it's pretty funny and I tell people
this story and they're shocked by Last year at New Mexico,
we won twenty seven games, we were seventeen and three.
We won the league, beat Marquette in the tournament. I
hardly ever spoke to the team after the game, and
at first I had heard it on a podcast. A
coach said it was the greatest thing you ever did,
and I said, you know what, I think, I'm going
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to try this and we started going on a run.
Now after losses, I think it's really really important. But
when you win, everybody's feeling good, like, hey, we'll see
you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Don't get arrested, don't get in trouble. You know, we're good.
We'll see you later.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I keep it short, I really do, because I've always
found that the emotion of the game takes away from yours.
The emotion of the score takes away from your true
perspective to the game.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Sometimes you may win.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And you think you played well and you really didn't
play well. Sometimes you lose and you think you played
like crap and you actually played well. So I try
to keep it very, very brief, you know. I brought
him in after the game and said, listen, guys like
first win together as a group. What I loved about
it is I saw growth from game exhibition game one
to exhibition game two. Although we lost the lead, in
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my opinion, building a twenty point lead was something we
hadn't done as a group yet, So that's a positive,
you know. And I told them before the game, my
message is going to be pretty consistent before and after
games and wins and losses. We're not going to get
too high. We're not going to get too low. We're
not going to get on our phones and text nonsense
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or whatever. Like we're gonna get some rest, We're going
to regroup, and we're going to work again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
How did you mentioned the twenty point lead, which was
a positive? How what happened that allowed that that lead
to become a reality for the moments that it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Was their defense to offense.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You know, I think our defense is ahead of our
offense right now. Now doing it for forty minutes is
obviously a bit of a problem, you know. Is that fatigue,
is that the lineups or whatever. I think we'll figure
that out. But I think you saw when we were
going on that run. That's an ideal world what our
style of basketball looks like.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Trapping a ball.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Screen, getting a steal, getting a deflection, and then turning
into fast break points. We were second in the country
last year in fast break points. A lot of that
was because the amount of steals that we got. The
only disappointing thing yesterday was I believe we only had
two block shots.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
We got a block more shots in that.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Conversely, Maris, who's not a big team, had six block shots.
So we got to do better with the rim protection.
But yeah, it's turning defense into offense. We got to
be better in the half court. That's what we got
to work on. We went a little bit cold, they
went with some ISO situations, they got hot, and they
got right back into the game.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Coach, when you talk about wanting to block more shots,
is that more responsibility on a guy like, you know,
Anthony Robinson because he's your cinner or are you looking
for that overall from your team?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean Anthony Robinson.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You you know you can't play twenty four minutes and only.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Block one shot.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Now, Jovan played a decent amount of minutes at the five.
He's not gonna ship block shots. That's not his game.
But Anthony Pop. If I had played Pop a little
bit more, I bet you would have blocked a couple.
I made the switch to go a little bit smaller.
We went on our run and so I stuck with that.
But I think if we played Pop more, he would
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have blocked a couple more shots as well.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You want those block shots? Do you do you practice
that in any way?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean what kind of drills do you do for?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, the biggest thing that we talk about is not
blocking a shot when you're on the ball, when you're
guarding the ball, don't try to block a shot.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Waller up.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
But so much of what our defense is is, you know,
speeding the ball up and rotating and blocking shots.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Anthony's timing has got to get a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I think Pop is more of a natural shot blocker,
but it's something that we work on a kind of
disadvantage drills and practice like four on three shell and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So it's not the primary defender he's just stopping the No,
the second guy's coming in and he's knot.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Normally the primary defender is going to foul.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
We want to rotate and block a shot.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Talking about Pop, I thought he, uh, he didn't play
a lot, but when he did play, I thought he
made his uh his presence fell.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, Yeah, he was one when we found it.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
He altered a couple of shots, and his size was
a was a thing in that game.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, when I look back at that game, I always
look at the decisions that I make as it pertains
to the lineup and who I played. I would have
probably liked to have played Isaiah a little bit more,
and I would have liked to have found more time
for Pop. But like I said, when we went small,
because they were small, we went on a run.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
So it's gonna be a game to game thing, like
we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Need Pop for sure as we get into these bigger
opponents because they're gonna have more traditional size than these
mid majors. So I like pops upside a lot. You know,
I definitely think he needs to play more than six minutes.
But I also think what we did last night was
the reason we went up twenty.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Well, coach, when I when I looked at that starting lineup,
when I think their start, their tallest starter was like
six six, I'm all right, Well, know's got a big
size advantage, and I thought I thought you were gonna
be able to take advantage of that more than you did. Now,
Maris is a really good team. They're really sound fundamental,
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fundamentally on the defensive end, they've always done a good
job of that and they were they were tough. Anthony Robinson,
what can he do to make more of an impact
on the offensive end.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, we had talked about it before the game, you know,
or before the radio show. Big guys who want the ball,
they need to go grab that point guard and say
give me the ball.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, it's always the guard because but you know, Anthony
needs to get that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
We're certainly talking about it from the bench, but he
needs to say in a huddle of those guys like
I'm posting up, I'm working for you, guys, I'm ducking in,
I'm clearing space for you to get to the rim.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Like you got to throw me the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
He's got to demand it. So it's everybody. It's all connected.
It's not one guy, but the good, big guys that
I've had, it's been them putting the fear in those guards,
like you better pass me the ball or else. You know,
we don't need a silent protest by any meaning on
the court.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
But he needs to demand it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
His skill set's got to get a little bit better.
But you know, he draws fouls. He got to the
free throw line, although.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
He missed it decently. It was two for six, Like
we had to work on that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
But especially with these mid major teams, he's gonna get
fouled because those guys are not very big.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
When you're coaching the post players like that, is that
something that's con fay to him. You've got to ask
for the ball and you tell them you want it.
I mean, you got to have the yeah, the posture
that you want the ball. You can't be there not
not setting up your position that it makes it that
they can't pass it to get And sometimes guys will
do that where they kind of they really don't post
up very hard. They don't want it. You can kind
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of read you their body language well.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And I also think this the players know who's going
to try to score like you, and it happens organically.
They find Trey Carroll because Trey Carroll is very very aggressive,
you know, kind of mid posts or even off the
block a little bit. It's a responsibility of Anthony and
Pop to show them in practice, like you could throw
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it to me and I'm gonna finish this. You know,
I'm not gonna release on a post up and all
of a sudden turn the ball over because guards don't
want to turn the ball over.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
So it's all connected.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But again, like I would love tomorrow and practice for
Anthony Robinson's to scream at a player to passing.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
The ball on the post. Just keep it, you know,
above the belt.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I enjoy washing him playing. I love his speed as
a center because I can't imagine anybody guarding him would
like to chase him all day long. It's pretty much impossible.
If he runs rim to rim, Yeah, he's going to
be able to post up deep, Yeah quickly. He's got
a high upside. You got to remember he redshirted as
a freshman. He hardly played last year. In the old days,
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you'd be like, man, we got that kid for three years,
Like he's gonna be really really good. Are everybody's perspective
has changed because it's year and a year now. But
hopefully he's a guy that we can develop retain because
he's going to get better and better. This is a
Richard Patina Coaches Show from Diley Bistreil and Marymont on
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Speaker 5 (14:02):
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we were talking before the break about demanding the basketball,
and I played with the guy by the name of
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Tyrone Hill, and every other time down he would cry
and bitch and moan about not getting the ball. And
he definitely did what you suggested. He threatened us a
couple times, like, look, I will hurt you if you
don't give me the ball. And you know, I didn't
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want to give it to him because I want to
shoot the ball. That's what guards are want to do.
They want to shoot, you know, It's what we're there for.
That's the only thing you get points for in this game,
you know. So and the bigs have to realize their
spot and there that's usually the rebound and play defense
and give guards the ball. So you got this this
this this thing going on on the court. But Tyrone,
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he demanded it and if you didn't give him the ball,
you know, we almost had a couple of couple of
fights on the court. You know, he grabbed my jersey,
you know, and but you better believe the next time
down I would look for him. Yeah, because he you know,
he demanded the ball and when he did, when he
got it, he did something with it. So it's a
real thing.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Well it's a real I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's a real thing too, in the sense of even
if they don't score it, they're almost inevitably getting get fouled.
You know, post defense is just not grade at our level,
so you got to put pressure on the defense.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
The foult situation I thought was interesting yesterday how it
worked so well for Xavier in the first half and
it worked against you in the second half. What was
the difference.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I'm not gonna I don't want to get fined by
the Big East. But here's what I will tell you. Yeah,
I'm not a big scream and yell at the officials
like I don't consume myself with that. I have a
hard enough time focusing on the game. It's amazing. It
started in the second half. It was seven to two
fouls US We had seven. They had two early like
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four minutes in, with four minutes in, and then conveniently
over the next four minutes it became even And that's
the one thing that drives me crazy about refs, is like,
just ref the game the right way, don't look at
the foul total, but it always seems to even out. So, yeah,
we got I mean we're aggressive. I don't think the
whistle was bad by any means, but we're aggressive right
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now and we're still learning how to play that style
without fouling. But we also I mean we got to
the foul line and you know, made twenty three free throws,
which is good as well.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You did well. Also, it was fifteen to two at
one point points off for turnovers. I think it ended
up fifteen to eight, fifteen to six. They had a
little bit of a flurry towards the end of the
end of the ball game, but that's the stat you're
used to seeing as a head coach.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I mean, turning them over eighteen times is really good.
I mean we had eleven steals. That's great, you know.
So the thing I liked was you never know until
you see an opponent, especially these new teams that you
don't know any of the players. But I thought there
was a sense of like sniffing blood a little bit
and going after the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And seeing that me.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
You know, there was a possession you talked about at
Byron where Roddy was turning the guy in the full
court and then he got a deflection and they got
a lay up late. That's the way that we want
to play. But it all starts. Everything starts on the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It's I say to the guys all the time, like,
we don't want to play prevent defense. We want to blitz.
You know, we don't want to be like erratic and crazy.
But everything that you do starts with disruption on the ball.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
And Coach, you made a change to the starting lineup
in the second half. You started all right, and you
went with a smaller lineup, and it really seemed to
work for you. I think you expanded the ten point
lead to twenty in a matter of four minutes. Are
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you going to be tinkering with the lineup throughout the year?
Are you more of a set kind of lineup kind
of coach?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I think with this team there'll be some tinkering, you know,
I don't think there's clear cut you know, these are
the five best players I think right now, especially when
you add all these new guys like you got to
see the chemistry on the court. I told the blue
team that's the starters two days before practice.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I don't like your chemistry. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You guys don't talk, you don't have great spirit, You're
not connected.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
You know, I think you should be the starters.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But I'm just telling you right now, like if I
sense any of it, I am not scared to pull you.
And that's what I did, you know, I mean not
in a negative way, but like I got to find
the right combinations right now. And although I want to
be bigger on the perimeter, you know, I don't think
All is a great defender by any means.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You know, he tries. Length is very very important.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But we may need to look at a little bit
of Roddy together with All and then maybe slide the
leak to the three.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
And you know you're going to give.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Up something if you do something, because we just had
we could not score the basketball with that lineup and
we had to change it up.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You were three for seventeen to start the ball game.
From the field. What I want to know is what
you told those players after the first time out, and
you know, you know what the stats are all the time.
You're being fed with that all the time. Do you
even mention that or what do you tell them, Hey,
we're getting good shots that will start to go in,
or you ignore that fast?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, I mean you talk about the shots that you're taking.
You know, you try to stay away from Okay, we
are this from the field. That's a big struggle with
coaches because you want to give your players freedom. You
don't want them scared to make plays. But you also
got to understand what are the highest percentage shots? Number one,
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highest percentagehot is a layup or dunk. Number two is
a free throw. Number three is a catch and shoot three.
So can we find those throughout?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Does that mean I hate mid ren shots?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Like, no, I don't hate them, but are we finding
shots that fit our personnel? So the three for seventeen start,
I felt like we were getting good looks, so I
wasn't necessarily freaking out about that. But at the end
of the day, like, what we can control when the
ball does not go in is the defense. And if
you looked at in the first half, you know we
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did a good job of holding them to thirty three percent.
They were only two for seven from three, which I
really like because my biggest thing with three point field
goal defense is don't let them shoot them.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
That's the best defense.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And so to limit their attempts to only ten for
the game I thought was really good.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Is that part of the strategy where you seem to
form a lot of traps around a three point line
if the opportunity is there, or is that some part
of the players that just happened, or.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Well, I mean our pitch and roll defense is we
essentially trap it with the five man.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
We switched with the four. We trap with the five.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
That's maybe a unique thing, and we got some steals
off it, you know, especially late in the game. But
we call it, you know, our red coverage where we're
really really aggressive and you know it's not perfect, but
there were good moments for sure.
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Speaker 2 (21:46):
I like to thank everybody for joining us tonight. Dilly
Bistro once again pretty much packed, and like to thank
Dilli Bistro for having us for the ninth season here
for the Xavier Coaches Show. Now we're gonna go to
the phones line. Let's talk to Brian. Brian, how you doing.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Pretty good tonight? How you got to do?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We're good, We're good.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I just want to congratulate coach on the first win
for Xavier.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
And I was play first of the many wins for
you guys, So I'd just like to say, Uh, you
guys started real slow on the offensive end the game
at the beginning, at the of the game, and I
was wondering, how did you guys, how do you just
how how do you guys start getting better on offense
to settle in?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, no, appreciate it, Brian. We've got to get better
in the half court, for sure. I think we're pretty
good at creating offense from our defense, but we have
to realize We're not always going to turn teams over.
So execution in the half court is a big thing
that we talked about today. We've got to be better
at the rim. I think we shot fifty at the rim.
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You got to shoot like seventy percent or more at
the rim. You saw some mislay up. I think what
Byron and Joe were talking about earlier, feeding the posts
a little bit more and then knocking down some of
those shots.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
So a little bit of it is execution.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
They were Marius did something that we hadn't really seen.
Obviously that was our first game, but they tried to
go under a lot of stuff and really dare us
to shoot. And the adjustment that we were making was
to make the guy chase over the top. And then
I thought it was better offensively in the second half.
But we've got to absolutely improve on that part of it.
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We're going to see different coverages, especially in the non conference.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
We may see zones. We saw a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Of that yesterday, and you know, guys have got to
be ready to step up and knock down shots. But
you look at you know, Roddy's shot shot eight shots
and was zero for five from three. Malik was one
for five from three. Those guys are better than that.
So a little bit of it is screening and execution
as well as just making shots.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I thought that ahead, Brian, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Also, I like I like the way your guys have
you away. Our defense is your defensive style. It's a
road is more a lot of more pressure. Do you
like the press a lot like? And uh? Then trap?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
We we every free throw situation, every dead ball coming
out of a timeout, we have two different presses that
we try to throw at you. You know, we also
have a underneath that of bounds defense. It's kind of
like a press as well to try to turn you over.
So you know, we we don't want it. We don't
want it to be a traditional game. We want to
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make you uncomfortable so you can't just walk the ball
up to court, look over at the coach when he
calls to play, you know. And it just as I
said earlier in the show, all of it starts with
ball pressure. And you know, Roddy's got the ability to
do it. And you know, if it starts with him
and you see him working his butt off far away
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from the basket, everybody's going to pick up on that.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Thanks congratulations, thanks for let's good and win the next
keep keep that up the good work.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Thank you, thanks for calling in Brian, We appreciate it.
In the second half, it was your HD Maris. They
took the ball out of bounds, they almost hit a
five second call, they called a time out, they couldn't
get it in after the time out. Was that part of.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
The Yeah, that's ideal right there?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And we had, you know a couple of situations too
late in the clock where they had the ball out
underneath there was like a one second of the clock
and we had him done and then Trey let the
guy pop and get open, uh for a shot. So
uh yeah, that that's that's ideal certainly, is to make
him earn everything.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Coach, the caller talked about improving, You talked about improving
on offense, and you and I have spoke about Malik
Messina Moore and his ability to be a big time
score and your encouragement of him to be more assertive
one offensive end. How do you convey that to him?
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Do you go over film? Is it combination of things?
And Kurt yell at him when he doesn't take a
shot in practice? How how does that work all the above,
because that's never happened to me. I've never been yelled
a you know.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I met with him today and I asked him, I said,
in the league, where do you want to be next year?
And he said, I want to play professional basketball. I
want to get paid to play the game I love.
I said, Okay. I said, if somebody came to the
game yesterday they were a scout, what do you think
they wrote on their pad?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I said they.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Probably said he's got decent size for a guard. He's
got a nice looking stroke, He's not super aggressive. You know,
he played thirty seven minutes. He only had three rebounds.
You know, so these little things that I think it was.
Nick Saban said, like you got to cut out the
butt part, Like, hey, he's a good kid. He's got
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a nice stroke, he's skilled butt and that butt has got.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
To be like one thing.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So it's the thing that I like about Roddy is
like we said earlier one of the shows was I'd
rather tone down a Bronco than warm up a corpse.
And for a leak, not that he's a corpse. He's
a really good player, but like be aggressive, you know,
I mean, like we need you to be aggressive. And
he had moments towards the end of the game where
you saw that and was like, wow, So he's trying
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to play the right way, but this team needs him
to be more aggressive than he's been.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Coach, I thought the catch. He made it a pass
that came out of the left corner towards your bench,
and that pass was up for Grams.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, used a really bad pass.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well it might have been, but he used his athletic
ability to kind of steal that pass back from the
clutches of a Maris player. Then he drove the bucket
and got to the free throw line. Yeah, in the
scheme of that game, that was an absolutely huge play.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
We need more of that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
We need he has the ability to do it, he's
got the skill set to do it.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
He's got to find it throughout the course of the game.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's almost he was playing instinctive there. He had to
make the plane. It all just sort of happened kind
of in the scheme of things. How do you develop
that in a player, To develop that instinctive mindset where
you're not really thinking the game, you're just playing aggressle
all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Well, you got to think about this. He played at Pepperdine,
he played at Montana. This is his third school, third
different coach, third different role on a team. You know,
we played him at Pepperdine and they had some talented players.
Maybe his role was different than what we need this
to be, you know. So you keep showing him film,
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you keep getting on him as much as you can.
But clearly, when you play a kid thirty seven minutes,
he's important to your team?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Is he coached by nature? An aggressive guy? When you
saw him play at Pepperdine in playing.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Anyone who goes to Pepperdine, it's so beautiful out there there,
you know, laid back California boy. But it's in there,
you know, And that's certainly my responsibility to pull it
out of him. But I mean you saw last night,
like you said, when he drove to the basket, got
dan one, Like, it's absolutely in there.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
He's got all the two. But he's a bit of
a soft spoken guy. Great, great guy. Really enjoy coaching him.
But yeah, we've got to unlock that in a big way.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, he's super. I love his lateral quickness. He's got
a lot of quick twitch in him.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
That and We don't have a lot of blowby guys
on the roster, so he needs guys.
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a victory for Xavier coach. You've got a couple of
players that have been injured. Talk about their status and
when you might see him return to the court.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, Mire Panola is I'd say like day to day.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Probably he practiced leading up to Marist was a little
bit sore the day before, and we felt like, let's
let's be careful with him. You know, I'd say he's
questionable for Thursday, hopeful for what is it Monday?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
You know, So I think that's the plan.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
You know, you don't want a guy to sits out
two months and then throw him right in. You know,
you want him to be healthy but also ready. There's
a mental side of it to go along with the physical.
Gabriel Pizzato, he'll be out, I would, you know, hope
end of December, early January. Both guys rehabs are going well.
You know, it's a tough thing mentally too, when you're
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hurt and you're sitting out and all those things. But
the spirits, their spirits are really good.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Those are two players, in my opinion, that could help
you tremendously if you get them one hundred percent healthy
and as you said, ready to play.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean, how would they fit into your schemes? Yeah,
Mirror is probably the best athlete on the team.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I talked to Connor, our trainer today, and first practice
back we do a layup kind of warm up drill,
and like his first layup was like a three sixty
one handed dunk and we're.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Kind of like, hey, like, we don't need you to
do that right now. You just kind of lay it
up and.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
He's into this thing, long arms slasher. You know, shooting
is solid, needs to get a little bit better, great attitude,
great kid can play the one, two or the three.
And then Gabriel Pasado, I mean, he was a guy
we brought here to be an impact guy.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
So that was that was a tough, tough.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Injury to be out that long, because you know, our
mindset was putting together the team was we never want
to be in a position where we don't retain anybody. Obviously,
coaching change happens, that's normal, but we we wanted for
year two, when you're three, in mind with get some
of these good young players into the program. They love
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the Xavier experience, they love playing in the big He's
hopefully playing for me and the coaching staff and they
see the value in growing in this. It did the
same thing in New Mexico and you know, had some
terrific players there, so Gabriel will be a really good player.
That was obviously a tough injury.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Coach.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
When when mir is so Miror appears to be ready
sooner than than than Gabriel. But when he's available, where
do you see him in the lineup? You say he
can play one through three. Yeah, he's got some really
long arms, really physical. Do you see him coming in
at uh, at a, at the point guard, or at
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the two, or at the small four.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
It's a really good question because when you look at
Roddy and all, they're almost small shooting guards.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
You know, they're very aggressive.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
So I think it's like a game by game, like, hey,
we got to get Roddy off the ball this possession
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So you know, I really try.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
To design our offense so that it's simple enough to
pick up on playing all of those positions. So I'm
going to look at him at all three. It depends
on the other guys. It depends on how he can
conceptualize everything and play within that. But I think there,
you know, he will probably be similar to Isaiah Walker
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in a good way. Deflection steals competitor, similar type guy there.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You should look at your bench. I think he utilized
it to a tremendous effect in last night's ball game.
When you figure that Isaiah Walker came into the ball game,
did exactly what you asked for, you brought in all right.
He shot the ball, that's what he does well, and
Jai played some good defense for a moment or two.
For you, is you look at your bench. Do you
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like the players and skills you can bring to bear
and situations?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean last night was certainly encouraging. I think to have.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Jovon have the ability to play the five, like that
small ball five.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
We're down one and he lifts up.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You know, we have opposite big lifts up, and he
lifted up like it was nothing and knocked down a
big three. He's got the skill set, free throw line
six out of set. You know, you get in the game,
guys are gonna get fouled a little bit more. And
when you're in a close game, you're going offense defense,
and he was ready to go there, you know. So
that's very, very beneficial. So I like the bench a lot.
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I think the starting lineup is going to change a
lot this year because we're trying to figure out all
the combinations.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Coach, I thought I was really neat to see at
the most critical point of the game, you're talking about
bringing in younger guys that all right, and Yovan your
two sophomores were maybe the most impactful guy, impactful players
of the game, especially down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, and again, the hope is with guys like that
Anthony Robinson, another young one like they have a great experience.
We know it's become way more transactional. They have agents
and all the immanity. They can't even imagine dreaming of
these things a couple of years ago. But you know,
you're hoping that the experience is so good that we
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can continue to build with them and grow, and that
they see the Sinta Center, that environment, they see the
love that they get from the Xavier community, and they
want to be a part of it for three years,
not just one year.
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Speaker 5 (36:01):
Coach heading into the opener tray, Carroll I thought was
probably your most impactful player in terms of just production points, rebounds.
He didn't have the He didn't have a great shooting
game against Maris, but he had a couple of spectacular
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spin moves. Talk a little bit about what he means
to the team.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, he would tell you he didn't play well. Five
turnovers is obviously not very good. Four rebounds and thirty
four minutes not very good.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
But where were those? How was he committing those turnovers?
What was he trying to do to mych Were they
bad passes?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I don't know if he's color blind, but I don't
think he saw that the other team was wearing a
different color jersey. But yeah, I mean he was taking
well he had Did he have two carries that those
were just handling the ball? He had one towards the
end that almost gave me a heart attack. But you know,
I mean he's gonna be one of those guys like
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he's gonna be a high volume guy, a high usage guy.
But I think I think he needs to be that
for our team to be successful. So I I think
he's a really good player at that size. To do
you know, Joe mentioned it. I mean some of his
spin moves getting in the basket very very impressive. So
he's kind of that tone down a Bronco type guy
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because he is really aggressive and he plays hard. But
he was a really good get for us out of
the portal. We beat out some really good players for
and I know his shoe better at over five.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You mentioned Milishavich a while back on popping out and
hitting that three point shot late in the ball game.
Was a huge shot, your down one. He doesn't practice
all the time though, Yeah, I mean like six in
a row.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
He won a game for us last year in the pit.
I think it was Wyoming. It was like a slugfest,
low scoring game and he hit a huge three there. So, uh,
he is an awesome, a plus human being. So he's
one of those players when he does well, you know,
you're almost like a proud father seeing it, so very
happy for him.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
What will that do for your offense? If you're playing
him there, you have to respect him and you have
to bring your big man out to guard him. How
does the rest of the team benefit from here? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
If you can ever get a five man who could shoot,
you can do a lot of things. He had a
ball screen where he popped in the middle of the
court and he was wide open for three.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
It'd kind of hit the back of the rim and
went in.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You can always get your guy in open shot. It's
just a matter of getting the right guys at open
shot to make him, and he certainly is a guy
that we believe can make them.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
What about your opponent on Thursday night, Lamoyne, I.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Mean, he played a crazy game the other day.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I was telling Byron they won by like forty five points,
and so it's a hard one to judge from that film.
And certainly you know they're going to be confident, obviously, Maris,
but is scareing us. So we watched a lot of
film today. Give him a little bit of rest and
we'll go have a good practice to mom.
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