12/2/25 - The Richard Pitino Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:23):
easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Now Here are Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm got the Dily Pistro at Marrymont and that Richard
Patino Coaches show up Joe Sundraman.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Along with Byron Larkin at the head coach.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Of the Xavier Musketeers Richard Patino. Since we last head
of Coach of show, Xaviers won a couple of ball
games eighty eight sixty seven over Texas A and M
Corpus Christy and then knocking off Saint Francis last night.
Ninety six seventy four of the Musketeers are now six
and three in the season. If you'd like to call
in and talk with the coach, the numbers five, one, three, seven, four,

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nine fifty five, three hundred. Coach talk about the last
two ball games, what your team has done well and
what you're looking to maybe improve.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
On a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I think I
think we're playing good basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Last game was a little bit challenging because they were
playing like four guards and you know, we're not the
most laterally quick team on the ball, and you know,
the two kids that were hurting us off the bounce. Uh,
we really got to work on that, you know. But
I think we're just we're passing the ball extremely well.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
We're taking care of it.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
You will run of the best in the country assist
to turnover ratio.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
You know, so proud of the growth. We're getting better
and better.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I want to ask you about school today. The kids
got out of school and understand, Yeah, no, what did
you think of that? Not happy about it?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Soft, very soft. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
We lived in Minnesota for eight years. There's no way
that would have been canceled. They were very excited. I
brought my three kids here today. My wife's got a
big paddle game tonight, so I brought them with me
and very very happy three kids when they woke up
to hear that.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's always gonna Yeah, it is a treat, there's no
doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah, for the parents, Coach, that doesn't mean that. Well,
school was off, but that didn't mean practice was off,
was it.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
No, we we did. We did a lot of film today.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
We had gone seven days straight, so a lot of
film study today. But got off their legs and then uh,
we'll have two hard practices tomorrow. But guys were tired today.
So uh, they were also happy because Zavi didn't have
school either. But they'll be well rested ready to go tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Coach, you had in that Saint Francis game, you had
twenty three assists in only eight turnovers. That's I think
two games in I think against Texas A and m
CC you had twenty six assists and only five turnovers.
Those are big numbers relative to being unselfish and taking
care of the basketball. What do you make of those numbers?

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And have you ever had a team that that was
that unselfish and that valued the basketball like that?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, No, I don't, I don't think I have.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know, part of it is the personnel that we're
putting on the court, and I think they're seeing it
kind of evolve, like you know, we've got shooters, we
can get into the paint, kickout, make that one more pass.
So I mean we'll work on it a lot, but
a lot of it is attributed to it is the
personnel that we're playing. When you have five guys on
the court, they can dribble, pass, and shoot. You know,

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you can do a lot of good things offensively. Now conversely,
you have some issues defensively, and we see that from
time to time.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
We saw that last night.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
So we had to continue to figure out the best
way to play defensively because I think this offensive lineup
gives us our best chance, you know, with the personnel
that we have. But yes, I love the unselfishness. They're
playing the right way. I think they know if they
give up a good shot to get a great shot,
it's most likely going to end an assist as well.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
And coach, you you started out the year with the
difference you've had. You've changed the lineup multiple times, and
you had Anthony Robinson was in the starting lineup for
the first couple of games. And then talk about the
decision or how long did it take you to say, Okay,
I think we might be more more effective if we

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go with a you know, with Jovan at the five
as opposed to a traditional five like Anthony.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah, I think when we were down thirty in the
Senta centater to Santa Clair. I made that decision that
we're not going to do this anymore. I just thought,
you know, we did it at Iowa, and I just
thought there was like a rhythm and a flow to
the way that we were playing. I was a really
good team, but I just it just worked, you know.
I do think there's gonna be some issues long term

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or some bigger teams that we're gonna have to figure out.
I like the development of Anthony kind of coming off
the bench, playing not necessarily as much, but you're seeing
the growth there, so it's a good role for him.
But you know, we're gonna certainly talk about UC and
some of these other teams that you face, and they're
big and strong and athletics, so it's kind of picked
your poison. But I think for us to win any

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games this year, like we're gonna have to do that
primarily and kind of live with the results on the
other end a little bit.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
And then that definitely took some time. When you have
twelve new players and they're figuring each other out and
you're figuring them out as well. I guess that's something
that content you evaluate as the season goes on, what's working,
what's not working, But that at least offensively has really
I thought, almost changed the direction. It was very significant

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that change.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
In the Yeah, I mean it certainly has.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
We've got one of the best assistant turnover ratios in
the country. Because of that, we've made some of the
most threes in the country.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
We're leading the league and all those things.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
But if you then look at the defensive side of it,
we're one of the worst two point field goal defenses
in the country.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
We don't have a lot of shot blocking.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
So again, it's like, what gives us the best chance
to win. I think it's that lineup, and I think
bringing Anthony and Pop along, and you're starting to see,
like Anthony's getting confidence. We went Anthony versus West Virginia.
They had the big kid. He did a great job there.
Anthony does a great job. I don't know what he
is now, but I think he was second in the

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team in getting foul Now he's got to make his
free throws, but he does put a lot of pressure on.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Him because he is so tough and physical.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I noticed yesterday in the second half when you had
Rodney Anderson on the floor along with Anthony Robinson. It's
almost like they may have recognized we both really can run. Yeah,
and those guys working in tandem, they can be devastating
if they can kind of work together. And Robinson runs
to the rim and Rodnie started to look for him.
They could have a lot of fun playing together.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
We call him touchdowns, which is six seconds or less
you can go score. And like Roddy got some layups,
all got a layup or two, and a lot of
that had to do with the big spring in the
court and ceiling. Now, I don't think Saint Francis transition
defense was all that great, but like we really took
advantage of that. That was the best thing we took
out of yesterday was the pace that we played with

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when they scored or on the fast break.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I thought it was really good. And we did a good.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Job too of Again, we're one of the worst two
point field goal offensively, and we did a much better
job of getting to the rim and finishing in the
paint yesterday.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
The coach, you scored forty eight points of your ninety six.
Half of those points of your total point of your
point total came from the post. I mean came from
in the paint off layups, post touches and whatnot. And
you said you worked a lot in practice on that.
So what kind of drills, what kind of conversations do

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you have with your team relative to that.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, it's pretty simple.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
You know, we look like a high school team out
there practicing two line layups and things like that.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
But I mean it's we had to get back to
the basics.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
We don't have great layup makers and just working on
their footwork of playing off the two feet. Roddy had
one he got fouled, but he went into the lane,
he jumps stopped, they all jumped in and he got fouled.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just don't think we have.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Guys athletically that can finish through contact. Maybe like I've
had some teams in the past, which is fine. I
mean you still play under control. Phil had a great time.
You know, he drove the lane, he threw it to Malik.
I think Malik threw one more for a wing jump
shot that was wide open.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
So we need to get into the paint.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
We just got to be smart with our plan going
in there, because like a Georgia who shot blocks left
and right, we're just not going to be able to
score over that length. But if you create leverage where
you get two or three guys on you in the
lane and then you spray it out with.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Our shooters, it can be hard to guard.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
You talk about playing on two feet like that in
the lane. That brings back memories to me, just rather
recent than with hill Over Hit the Great Championship teams.
They were always driving into lane, coming to a stop,
and they could select what shoe they wanted to use
as a pivot foot and they would rotate around and
spray the ball back up.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Is that what you're looking at? That exactly right?

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I mean, we've done some study on that, you know,
because again I just you know, I had a kid
last year, Donovan Den, who was elite at just kind
of getting in there and finishing, and.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
We have some guys that can do it.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
But a lot of what I watched was a lot
of the Villanova stuff of we call it logo jump stops,
where the big East logo is if you can get
in there and then jump stop and pivot and do
those things, it could give us our best chance for sure.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
And coach all right, I've been really impressed with him
just his ability to take care of the ball, make
good decisions. Not a true point guard, but I'd say
he just he's calm. He's shooting the ball at fifty
percent from three. I mean, his decision making is paramount.

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Did when you recruited him, did you think that you
were going to play him at the point and that
he was going to be that play that role for you.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I mean, I think as we build our roster, we
want to be big, you know. I think we're a
little bit small at certain spots, and so we're going
to continue to like I want my point guard to
maybe be around all size, and then you know, like
your two can be six five and then your three
can be six seven, you know, and you can keep

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building it and everything. As my kids laugh because I
said six seven, but you know that that certainly is
the goal roster wise. But I really liked all Is
just his belief in himself when we were watching film,
you know, he was he was freshman in the year
in his league.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
He's a competitor.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
When we grade out all the plus minuses with the
advanced analytics, all is the best one on the team
when he's in the lineup, Like our team has the
most plus of any of the guys, so you know,
but then you got to kind of make a decision
when comes in there and he scores like that, do
you slide all over to the two a little bit?
Offensively it's really good, but again, defensively is where you

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have some issues because of your size. But it's all
things we got to look.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
At for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's interesting the pace that all plays with and he's
he's getting quicker and quicker in terms of the reaction
to transition. Do you find yourself every time out reminding
your team you want a quicker pace? Are they close
to what you anticipate, say four weeks from now, They're
not nearly as quick up and down or four as
you want them to be.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
What are you what are you looking for? How do
you get there? Play faster? Runs faster? I mean it's
mental thing really, as simple as it is just running.
You know.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
The best thing you can do is pitch ahead is
what we call it. And from there can your wings attack?
Can can they get to the rim? Can they get
into the paint? Spray it back out? But yeah, I
think our pace the last two years in New Mexico
is top twenty in the country. We're at about seventy
something right now. But some of that has to do
with defense. We're not generating as many steals that gets

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you out on the break and that really helps. But
you know, if you have a great defense, it allows
you to do it. We're certainly not where we need
to be defensively there. But yeah, we keep harping on
them of you know, if you don't run, you're going.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
To the treadmill. In practice, that's our new thing.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You know what I used to call ma thattlet passes.
I'm assuming they still do. But again, I'm starting to
recognize more of that type of play from your center,
whether it's Robinson or whoever. It might be Malichovich, or
they're getting the ball. If they don't bring it across
the timeline, they're at least turning and looking for a
guard right away. And I'm seeing more of those type
of passes. Is that my imagination or is that true?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I mean, that's the best thing that we do is
we pass it really really well.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
We've just got it.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
When we pitch ahead, We've got to put the fear
of God in the defense of like, oh my goodness,
if I don't get back. Something bad's going to happen.
And I thought we did that pretty well last night.
But yes, I mean the next two days we're going
to continue to work on playing with great pace.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
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Speaker 3 (13:10):
Welcome back to the Richard Patino Coaches Show from Dilley Bistro.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
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Speaker 3 (13:26):
We have a phone called Dave. You're on with the coach.
How you doing, Dave?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Good?

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Joe, good to hear you again. Thanks for being glad
to get a chance to talk to you too. Coach.
Congratulations on the improvement, especially at the offensive end. I
thought with the whole new team it would take a
little while, but thank you. Improvement is phenomenal and I

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love the style of play of playing fast. I have
a question about the Italian recruit. How's he doing? Chance?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Healthy talk? Yeah, thank you for the compliment.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I mean, he guys have been a fun group to
work with, so you know, it's a work in progress.
But I think, like all the fans, I mean, what
we love more than anything is just the progress we're
showing every single game. As for Gabriel Pisado one, we
have high expectations for him. You know, when we brought
him here, we really felt like he would be an
impact guy for us. So disappointed for him, yeah, and

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for the team when he got hurt because he was very,
very important to what we're doing. So credit to our
guys to just kind of make up for a huge
loss like that. I think we'll just revisit with Gabe
in January. You know, he's doing some stuff off the court,
he's not doing anything with us on the court. So

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you know, our trainers and doctors doing a great job
with him, and you.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Know we want him ready, you know, you don't.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
You don't want to rush it, so uh, they'll do
kind of check ups to them every couple of weeks.
But he's progressing, you know, so whole lead a couple
of weeks you can get a little bit closer, but again,
we don't, we don't want to rush him by any means, sure,
anything else, Dave?

Speaker 8 (15:10):
All right, go ahead, just a problem on the up game, coach.
Good luck for that game. And I want to see
the Sea win with Calle. I don't want to see
a lot for us because that's what's relates the problems.
So and the other thing is game. I know, you know, the.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Referees will be calling out the closest to beginning of
the game, so the players have to be careful at
the first few minutes.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah. I appreciate it very much. Thank you, Hey, Dave,
thanks for calling in, Chris. You're on with the coach.

Speaker 9 (15:41):
How you doing Chris, Hey, I'm doing great. Thanks thanks
for letting me call in. Uh, coach. I just want
to say, you know, congratulations. I've been to all the
game this year, and I watched all the podcasts and
really listen to what you're saying in your message, and
I think you're good, a great role model for our players.

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They seem to really love you and trust you, and
I think that's just so important in today's era of
college basketball.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
Yeah, and I tell you what, I can't wait to
go to the Cinta Center on Friday for the UC game.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Just bend to.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
Many of them, and there's nothing like the thrill of
being at a bigger UC game, especially when we take
care of business. So I'm really looking forward to that.
The one question I did have for you, I'm just
really curious because I've noticed when we call time out,
your guys come out, and it seems like you've been
pretty successful with a lot of plays out of the

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time out going at the basket. Just kind of what's
your philosophy on that? And then also like underneath the basket.
You know, we don't have a lot of big guys,
you know, who can dominate the paint. What are you
looking to do when you're inbounding the ball into the basket?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Well, I normally have on my kind of play cards,
some like I just write on their atos, and some
things that I kind of hide in the back pocket
that maybe we have run haven't run, And that's kind
of like a database that I have over time, and
sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. But you know, guys
have been really good there so far. As for underneath

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that of bounds, I think we've been solid at it,
you know, I mean a lot of it depends on
the team you're playing and how they're guarding, and so
you just try to find a mismatch, a weakness, a
soft spot in the defense. And so that kind of
changes game to game as well with what you're gonna run.
So you know, have the play sheet and then you

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kind of have your atos for sets underneath that of
bounds going against his own or whatever, and you do
your best. I mean, you know, Billy Donovan, who I
worked for it told me a great lesson. He said,
you know, as a young head coach, you better be
able to get them some open shots.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
And so I've never taken that lightly.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
And you know, it helps when you can have five
guys on the court that can shoot.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
At all time.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
So it just depends on the lineup, depends on where
the ball is and kind of getting guys that are
strong hand or whatever and how their garden.

Speaker 9 (18:11):
Okay, hey, final question, any idea if any former Zavior
basketball players are going to be at the game on Friday.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I do not know that.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
You know, I've been kind of I'm like a mental
disaster during the season. That's why I'm lucky to have
Peyton News here right now. She just kind of walks
me from point A to point B. But I'm sure
I hadn't really done much thought of UC just prep wise,
because I guess I'm a little superstitious, and I start
thinking about other things, and all of a sudden you're
down like twelve to Saint Francis. But I know, you know,

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the community and the Xavier fans are really fired up
for it, So hopefully there'll be some in the building
because you know, for me as a new head coach,
like I've reached out to some of them when I
got the job, but something like that face to face
interaction is great, So hopefully.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
There are some in the building. All right, Chris, thanks
for thank you, You're welcome, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Go ahead, coach. I want to know how soon after
you accepted the job at Xavier was the Crosstown shootout
talked about? And were you're aware of it before you
accepted the job.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, like right away for sure. It was that. I
get reminded throughout town a lot just just.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Beat you See, I'm like, oh, if we lose the
rest of the games, nobody will cares, you know, But
uh yeah, I mean I knew it was a big,
big deal and you're starting the field kind of the
magnitude of it building up. But I mean, you want
to be a place that cares about basketball. That's really
what it comes down to. And obviously both fan bases
are very, very passionate. It's unique that we're so close

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to each other. But yeah, I mean, just you get
goosebumps thinking about Friday night. And again that's why, I mean,
I got my three kids here, Like nobody needs feel
sorry for you.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Moving your family.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Is really really hard and I wouldn't have done it
if I didn't think Xavier was a special place. And
being here now for a couple of months certainly validates
all that I thought about.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
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Speaker 3 (20:35):
All right, let's go back to the phones. Benny, you're
on with the coach. How you doing, Benny?

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Good, guys, how you guys doing, Benny?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
What's up? Benny?

Speaker 7 (20:44):
Hey, that's up, guys. Coach, and of course Terry out there.
I'm sure she's there at the cistro supporting her man.
But I wanted to call just kudos. Like the first
couple of callers, they're saying, kudo's to coach for you
when uh and the coaching staff. How after watching them
first couple of games, even though you guys won, I

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I really had my doubts. I just thought, oh my god,
my goodness, I'm not I'm not sure if they just
seems capable of winning maybe five games this year. And
that Georgia game, even though you've lost that game. I
don't think I've ever felt good that good after a

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Xavier loss, because I'm a diehard Xavier fan, and I
just felt like, well, they turned the corner and one
just overnight, like that Georgia game, untough you lost, and
then they seen it again against West Virginia, and it really,
really really is a testament to you and your coaching staff.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
How thank you.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Oh, well, you know that you've done with them guys,
you know had on a swivel. Everything was working, jumping
in the past. Uh, you know, they they were just
doing all the little things you know that they weren't
doing in the first couple of games. You know, you won,
you know, and then I know it's probably hard for
you to get through their head. And you know when
you're telling them they have to do this, and like, coach,
we won by twenty what are you talking. You're building

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with twenty year old kids. But uh, I just wanted,
you know, to call in and you know, congratulate you
and wishing nothing but the best for the rest of
the season, and try not to get so fired up
during timeout like you did last night.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, we're gonna lose all We're going to lose all
your hair. Yeah. I was not happy with that.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
I coached for ten years and I did that when
I needed to question their intestinal fortitude and I didn't
want the parents share what I had to say to
the kids. So I need him a half court and
let them have it.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, that was his animated as I seen you, coach.
That was that was classic right there.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, that was a build up of a bad practice
before that, so, uh, they knew I was ready to
go and they yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
And then I don't think it helped either when that
uh I want to call it the battle and that
one three one that you guys were out there, I
wasn't sure if that was a one to three one
half court press or if that was actually a ben Yeah,
I didn't know what it was. I was just like,
what is is that a half court press?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Were confusing the opponent as well as ourselves?

Speaker 7 (23:20):
Yeah, and the fans and the fans they got a
full point playing a bucket under the basket.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, it didn't go well.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
And one more question, Uh, you know that against West Virginia,
you guys went to a three two zone and it
was very very effective, and uh, I haven't seen you
want it if maybe once since then? Is what was
the reason just because of the.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
The opponent you're.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
Playing, or or why did you go away from it?
Because I just thought it was so it was a
turning point of the game against West Virginia. In my opinion,
I think.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
It was Georgia we did that.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
We went with the two three zone against Georgia and
that got us back in the game. We only played
one possession of it versus West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
You know, we're working on I would tell.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
You why I didn't go back to it was because
we were playing great versus West Virginia defensively and Corpus
Christy and even Saint Francis. The reason why I went
with the one three one last night was we had
been working on it. I do think that, you know,
I don't know if we're going to be a primary
man dea man team, just I don't know if we

(24:29):
have the personnel for it. So we're certainly we told
our players to kind of bear with us as we
tinker with some things. So we threw the you know,
we did the two three. We had practiced it versus Georgia.
We thought with their athleticism, we weren't going to be
able to keep them in front. It certainly almost worked,
and uh, you know, we wanted to kind of sprinkle
in a little something last night, but not showed too much,

(24:52):
especially for UC and leading up to the Big East.
You know, we kind of wanted to keep some of
those things in the back pocket.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
We appreciate it, all right, Thanks you guys, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
You could tell Benny as a coach.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Benny's on and he was. He wasn't paying attention to
the West Virginia game because we didn't play zone. Come
at me about our one three one. I'm gonna come
at Benny, what about that?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You play one three to one. If somebody hits a three,
coaches a lot of times will dump right out of it.
They hit a four point point the time we played it, yeah,
and then got it dump yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah. It was not good. It was not good. I
like the compliments better. I don't like all this. Uh.
You know, we had been working on it.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
The U the three was Trey needed to jump out
in the passing lane and it was just like one
of those I didn't want to try it, and.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Then if they hit a three, it just abandoned it.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
You know, we had a healthy lead, we were up
twenty six twenty seven, and I thought like, let's stick
with this a little bit. But we clearly were not ready.
It's not gonna be our primary defense by any means.
But we did get a steal out of it. We
had a time where Yobama at the four. He had
been playing a lot of the five.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So we just to keep working on it from a
practical standpoint, as a coach, wouldn't you want the two
three and the one three one and your Manda man
all available to you if you need the ball game.
You look at the personnel you're playing against and say, hey,
I wish I had a one three one.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah you have it, you could use it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I mean I haven't played a lot of one three one.
I didn't played a lot of zone, and uh I
did it early at Minnesota we play a matchup zone.
But the only reason why I somewhat like the one
three one, although I didn't like it, was you can't
really run a lot versus one three one.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
There's only so much you can do.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Where a two three zone and a three two zone
you can run kind of your man stuff and do that.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Uh So that was why I wanted to tinker with
it a little bit. You know, will we play it
a lot like?

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I don't know, but you know we had the two
three zone in our back pocket.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
It almost saved us first Georgia.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
So uh again, I just don't know personnel wise, if
we're going to be one hundred percent man to man.
Late last year in New Mexico, we were a top
twenty team defensively, I don't know if I played a
possession of his own, So I'm just doing my very
best to help the guys out, put him in a
position to succeed and kind of see what works and
what doesn't.

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Speaker 2 (27:41):
Coach We've talked a lot about Xavier's ability to shoot
well from deep to three point shot. When I watch
your practice is it seems to me, of all the
teams I've watched practice over the years I've been had
the pleasure of broadcasting Xavier basketball, your team gets up
a lot of shots. In practice, every single drill results

(28:02):
in some type of shot that duplicates what you're going
to do in a game. Obviously, that's by design. Where
did you kind of develop that philosophy? And is that
I guess that is your design? Just get up lots
of shots that you're gonna like you're doing a game.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, I mean, you got to make shots the most
simple way possible. And so you know what we try
to do and we're lucky to do this.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
And I mentioned this.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Before, but we've got great walk ons, we've got great managers.
That one of the things when you don't have a
lot of resources and help, you're doing shooting drills and
there's not a body in front of you, and it's
just you're gonna make every shot. Where we kind of
have dummy defense in the drills that really really helps
kind of simulate the coverages and whatever. And that's been

(28:43):
really beneficial as well. But yeah, I mean, skill development
is going to be a huge part of what we do,
and I will as we're really deep into the season,
I'll do more skill development, less live stuff because it
builds their confidence, it helps them. You know, you're getting
more reps because at the end of the day, you
want a confident player walking out on the court, and

(29:03):
you know, when they know they're making shots and practice,
it helps them.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
And coach, Uh, I'm looking at the stats, and almost
everybody shoots threes on your team, the exception of Anthony Robinson.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, some don't shoot them well, but some.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
So what's coach, what is your philosophy? Because some some
coaches are like, hey, you know big so you don't
shoot threes Anthony, Okay, what about everybody else?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Everybody else is yes, yeah, I mean at the end
of the day, like a center is different. But like,
if you can't make that shot, I shouldn't be recruiting you,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Like it's uh, it's got to be a huge part
of what we do. We do and even a guy
like Philip who's not shooting a great percentage like or Moleak,
even like, I'm gonna give them great confidence.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Just take good shots. You know.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
The ones where I freak out about it are the
bad shots that don't give us a chance to offense
or rebound, don't give us a chance to get back
in transition. But I'm accused of a lot of things
as a coach. But the one thing you can never
say is that I don't build confidence with the players offensively.
And again, I mean they put in the work and
you got to be able to knock.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
It down, coach.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
And what about a guy like Malak Messina Moore. We
know his ability. He was a big time three point
shooter at Montana. He hasn't he hasn't ignited that that
part of his game yet. Now he's still doing a
lot of good things. He's rebounding, he's sharing the ball,
he's he's attacking really unselfish. A guy like him, who

(30:36):
you know is has got the potential, but it just
hasn't struggling with his confidence, I believe right now, do
you do extra shooting with him, extra film session, how
do you kind of get him?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
You know?

Speaker 4 (30:48):
I mean it's clearly kind of like a little storyline.
And what I try to harp on is the other things.
I mean, he's had twelve assists in the last two games.
He's rebounding the ball better than when he started. So
you know he's going to put in the work. He's
always done that. But the biggest thing to him is
like if you were to play thirty minutes in a game,

(31:10):
how much of the thirty minutes do you actually have
the ball? It's probably like two minutes. So in the
other twenty eight minutes, what are you doing to help
the team win? And so I make it more about
that with Malik, you know, and it's gotten better. He's
passing the ball well, he's rebounding the ball well, he's
playing better defense. So I know that he's going to
make shots at some point. I really just try not

(31:31):
to bring it up, honestly, and just continue to harp
on taking good shots. But even when you're not making shots,
you can always help the team.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I've been impressed with Trey Carroll. I know he works
on his game and has for a number of years now.
It's obvious the array of shots that he brings.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
To the court.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
But I love the way he can hit the three,
or he could hit a mid range shot, or he
can take the dribble and just back you in and
post his great post situation out of nothing. Basically, he's
how unique is it to fight a player that can
play at all those levels on the half court?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, he's He's probably our most unsung player right now.
You know, he just he's been the most consistent player.
We've kind of put in some new things to kind
of what we call Barkley down off a post up
and that was pretty productive last night. And then uh,
he had some great drives to the basket as well
as he's got the ability to shoot the three. Even

(32:23):
in that West Virginia game where I think it was
Jovann banged home all those threes we didn't talk about.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I mean, Trey was sitting there. He hit five threes.
You know. So he's a talented player. He is.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
He's a veteran, he played, came from a really good program.
He was one of our first calls when we got
the job. You know, we really really wanted him. We
loved his versatility and thought, you know, it kind of
came off the bench. She came off the bench because
the kid from UC, Bobby Miller, was there. They the
starting center who's now at Texas, so they had a
really good front court. But we just felt like he

(32:57):
was a really good players, an all conference player coming
off the bench for really good team.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
So you did you realize he was going to be
this productive coach because and I agree with you, Joe, like,
his versatility is just off the charts.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I mean, you've.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Seen him shoot threes and you'll he'll bully somebody the
next time down and then he'll dry, then he'll post up,
and you know he's been And I agree with you, your
most consistent, productive player who's there, who can you can
count on every game. I think you know what you're
gonna get from him. I think he's the only player

(33:31):
on your team that has scored in double figures the
entire year.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, I mean we had high expectations for him, and
I think he's lived up to it. You know, he
ab he had in our kind of advanced analytical breakdown
of the transfers, he had a really good score. And
again a lot of those guys that have really good scores,
they're going for obscene amounts of money. But we really
felt like with him it would be worth it, and

(33:56):
it certainly is paid off and he's been very, very productive.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Coach, I was excited to see him play and actually
use his athletic ability. He had that one dunk in
the pain where he just seemed to rise up and
gently lay over the rim. That was a phenomenal move
for a man of that size. Yeah, and it's just
a lot of shot to ye, he ran the guy
down and yeah, yeah that's you watch that in July
and and then before he heard his his his foot.

(34:20):
But is he coming back pretty well?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Now? Yeah, I think he is. I mean he was out.
I was telling Byron this.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
I mean he was out almost three months, and so
much of his game is predicated on athleticism and so
to to miss that much time. He just seems a
little rusty, but great kid, working hard, slowly getting better
and better to help us.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
What's his offensive skills like once of the rest balls off? Well,
I think he can get to the rim.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
You know, I think what you saw last night, he's
a guy that can kind of attack and finish at
the rim where we don't have kind of high flying
athletes like that.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
So that's kind of a nice change of pace.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
He's a good decision maker and you know, he can
go buy a lot of guys. Again, it's just kind
of getting his win and getting back in shape.

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Speaker 5 (35:43):
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Speaker 3 (35:46):
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Speaker 10 (35:49):
We're having a good time against Texas. A previous coach
who shall not be named, would not necessarily bring in
the bench before twenty eight seconds left on the clock.
I'm watching you against Texas. At two and a half minutes,
we emptied the bench. We shot a three point from.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
One of the guys on the floor.

Speaker 10 (36:10):
The bench is going crazy. That was awesome.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
The crowd loved it.

Speaker 10 (36:14):
Yeah, and I would just like to know if that's
a philosophy moving forward. Are you training or is it
just for a.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Fun Well, here's what I'm going to defend.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
The coach that you will not name because of this
new net ranking nonsense. You actually have to win, but
in order to go up in the net rankings and
all that, you have to cover the spread of which
they name in all those things. So it is a
bummer for the walk Ons because a lot of coaches
are just trying to run up the score, because legitimately,

(36:46):
last night we won by twenty two. A forty point
victory would have helped us with the metrics. But at
some point you just have to forget about it and
not worry about it. I said this after the game.
I didn't inherit much, obviously, Roddy Anderson was the only
one we inherited. What I inherited was amazing walk Ons
and Michael wolf I Henry. They are phenomenal. Our manager

(37:08):
crew that I did not put together. They worked their
butts off. So it was a really cool moment. Those
guys deserve it. They are special. As I've said before
to many of you, I mean, if you're looking to
hire guys, I look right at them. I mean, they
are selfless, they work hard, and they make our program better.
So that was a great moment, and you know, it

(37:30):
felt good for everybody to celebrate their success.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Yeah, it's really cool to see that their teammates so
excited when they get in the game and they do
something well. Because the players are there, they realize more
than anybody how hard these walk ons, the sacrifices that
they make every day in practice. I mean you see
them in warm ups, They're rebounding the balls, you know,

(37:54):
for the other guys and don't even take a shot,
I mean, and that just takes a lot of a
selfless yeah, attitude and character and it's you definitely have
some good ones on your team.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
The best in the country.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
I mean, I remember when I first started doing some
drills and like Henry, Ian and.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Michael just stood off to the side.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
And I'm like, you're not getting in the drill and
They're like, oh no, no, we're good, We're good. We want
to let these guys get better. And I'm like, I
was stunned by it. So very very special, very grateful
for those guys. They deserve moments like that, and hopefully
we can continue to win some games and build some
leaves to get them in there.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Coach the UC game, obviously, on Friday, when do you
talk to your team about the significance of that game
where you just let that seep in and figure it
find itself.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I mean, you know, as a coach, certainly you try
to treat every game the same, but we do understand,
and I mean, once you get here, it's very hard
not to understand the magnitude of the game. But you know,
you try not to make it a bigger deal than
it is. We know when we walk out of the
locker room, like we're gonna feel that. But you know,

(38:59):
today was kind of is as usual, next opponent. But
our guys certainly understand the magnitude of the game, for
our fan base, for.

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