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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sean Miller coaches show. I'm from Dilly Bistro and Maryman.
I'm Joe Sunderman, along with Byron Larkin, the head coach
of the Xavier Musketeers Sean Miller. Zavier this past week
won a couple of ball games ninety one eighty two
over Providence and then on Saturday knocked off the paul
I score of eighty five to sixty eight. Zavers now
sixteen and ten of the season, eight and seven in
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the Big Eastern playing some plaints pretty good bass.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, you know, we had a good week last week.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Joe and obviously Zach Fremantle headlined it by getting the
Big East Player of the of the Week award. Which
you know is a real credit to Zach and our team.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, you're the biggest player of the week.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
There's so many good players playing well and important games
that you know, I think it's a it's a great accomplishment,
and especially in the month of February when all of
us want to be playing.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
At our best.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It was great to see Zach string together two games
like he did, one on the road and and won
at home. It's great to have him healthy, and my
hope is that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
He continues to go from.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
This point forward and uh and and even play better basketball.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, coach it it seems like we don't talk about
Zach enough on this show and after the games. I mean,
because he has been consistent every game he has played
for you this year. He scored in double figures and
your leading scorer, he's your leading rebounder. And you know,
one of the big things that that I tried to
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like when I was a player, to provide some consistency,
so you knew exactly what you were going to get
out of out of meat as a player. And it
seems like that's that's what you're getting Zach this year.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You're right, Byron, I mean think about this.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He's scored in double figures in every game that he's
played this year. And if you just start with that
and you consider the competition, and let's go all the
way back to whether it's a game like at UC
in the Crosstown shootout or Wake Forest at home, you know,
playing in Florida over the holidays against the front line
of Michigan and playing South Carolina, and then you know,
moving throughout at TCU and moving into the Big East Conference.
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And how about this coming back from not doing anything
for three weeks where we thought, you know, he was
gonna be injured and miss more than he really did.
But I don't know if anything's more difficult then to
get injured, go through the rehabilitation process, separate from the team,
not practice, not participating games, in his case, not travel,
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and then start to come back and practice and play
and just pick right up where you left off.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So with Zach, when we talk about it, he's never
you know, not been in double figures.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Now consistent, he's been.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I think that last part of the equation is something
to really consider. It makes it even more special in
my mind. But from an offensive perspective, his shooting is
coming along. He's scoring, he's more efficient, and he's really
playing good basketball right now.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But the other thing about him is like every night
usually he's playing the five, and I don't think he's
naturally a five, but he seems like every night out
there he's undersized in the post. Yeah, Yet, you know,
I think defensively, you know better than me obviously that
he's doing a good job. You know, given that he's
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usually given up a couple of inches and you know,
about ten or fifteen pounds in the post, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I mean, we're asking him to do a lot sometimes
that that mismatch works to his advantage on offense. However, defensively,
you know, we have to do it as a team
and it doesn't just fall on him.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
But look, zach'sa having a great final year.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I think all of US fans, coaches, his teammates, what
we really want from him is from him to be
healthy for the rest of the year. Whenever our last
game is that he's in that last game and playing.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
To the best of his ability.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
You know, think about three season ending surgeries right, never
transferred stayed with us, has his degree fought through a
lot of obstacles in diversity, which includes, you know, the
thing in December that happened in which he thought and
we thought he potentially could be lost for the year
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that ended up not being the case, thank goodness, and
then just watching him return back to the court.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
He's really playing some very good basketball.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And you're right, he's easy to take for granted and
not talk about a lot because he's the constant, and look,
we need him to continue to be the constant, especially
tomorrow night against Butler.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Coach.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
A couple of weeks ago, you talked about the fact
that Zack spends a lot of time working on his
three point shot and is diligent about it, and you
thought he'd break out and shoot the three. Well, the
last three games he's six for eleven from three point range.
The last two games aver his scored at ninety one
eighty five points. I'm sure there's a correlation there between that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, and I think some of it, Joe is just
to take the good ones, right, and you know, the
ones that are open. Big guys like you sometimes can
hunt threes because you want to be.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
A guard if you're a little bit shooting right.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So we're constantly aware of that.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
The three point shot that Zach takes are good ones,
and I think when he does take good ones, they're
a great shot for our team. He works on it,
We work on it with him, and we want him
to take the three point shot. And as we've talked
a little bit about John Hyuglee and also Jerome Hunter,
you know, the three players that really manned the front
court for us, and all of them in their own
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right have contributed, you know, and again, if they're taking open, wide,
open shots, we look at it as a good shot
for our team.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's part of our style.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
And hopefully moving forward, those three guys could continue to
be consistent.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, coaching, And speaking of Jerome Hunter, we haven't talked
about him much, but over the last couple of games,
he he's two for four from behind the arc. I mean,
I guess if you're practicing them and making them in practice,
you're gonna let them shoot in the game. And virtually
everyone on your team shoots threes, right, and you know.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Byron, the game has evolved and changed, and you know,
I think that that's the way you have to be
a good shooter to shoot them. Some guys, you know,
have more clearance than others, but I think being able,
especially at that top of the key area, to be
able to take open, uncontested shots, it makes your offense
much more difficult. You know, when you're watching us and
you see Zach make a couple and John Knocks went
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in or Jerome Knocks went in, you know, it almost
helps everybody else, not just them, and it opens the
flu gate. It gives more space for drives and a
lot of good things, you know, play play off of that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I was impressed with a dunkin hunter Head. I think
it might have been passed from Swain. And you lead
the Big East in fast break points and what I'm
impressed by every single player you put on the floor
can be on the scoring end of a fast break situation.
They all run the floor well. And and obviously Swain
was just marvelous with his head up finding and the
open players on Saturday and Hunter. You know in that
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play by Hunter, that's the kind of play I think
you could really put him on track to finish very
strong for the season.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What do you think, Yeah, the we're going to be
at our best, Joe when we're in transition.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You know, if that's you know, the subject we're talking about,
like and I think it all starts with Daveon McKnight,
you know, as our point guard, when he pushes the ball.
And you know, i'd say about a week and a
half two weeks ago, we really had a meeting with
Daveyon because you know, I think there's a healthy balance
of if you play fast, you have to be smart,
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you have to make good decisions. And we want to
play fast, but we also want to take good shots
and take good.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Care of the ball.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
But one of the things that we talked to davey
On about is just for him to take more accountability
and ownership and pushing the pace. And if you think
back to our Providence game, we didn't necessarily get off
to a great start in the game, but it wasn't
because of our offense, and it wasn't because of our pace.
We really got off to a great start early, and
really I thought against DePaul did oh for that, And
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I give him a lot of credit because if your
point guard pushes the ball and he's running and playing
intelligently in transition, guys like Jerome and Dalen, you know,
the three point shooting that seems to just accompany that.
So I give a Davon a lot of credit. That's
something we're really keeping a keen eye on down the stretch,
that we really keep our pace and try to play
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in that fast mode.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Coach, you definitely were kind of out to the races
versus DePaul. I mean the pace was deaf. NETI there
a relative to Daveyon. He kind of had a breakout
game offensively. He scored fourteen points. That was the first
time in five games he had scored double figures in
addition to pushing the pace. What are your conversations about
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him relative to his offense.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well, I would say that we have learned over this
year Byron how important the fast tempo is to Daveyon.
So if you really drill down and look at you know,
he was five for eight from the floor and four
for four from the free throw line. He had four
assists and only one turnover. And you know he pushed
the ball about as hard as a point guard can
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push it in a college game. Out of his five
field goals, I would be willing to bet you that
three of them happened in transition, and then in same
thing with him getting foult of his four free throws,
I think two of the four came just pushing the
ball in pace. So I think when you think about
him being in double figures or being more aggressive, the
faster than game is, the more that he's in transition,
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that's when he's at his best. And I think that
although we've played at a fast tempo this year, it
hasn't been as fast as a year ago, and when
you look at his production, some of that is correlating.
So I think as we continue to look at what
we can do to finish strong and be at our best,
you know, playing at a fast pace, obviously taking good
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shots and taking care of the ball, we feel like
that brings out the best in Daveyon and in some
of our other players. You know, Joe mentioned Jerome's dunk,
but those are the byproducts of playing with pace. Things happen,
you know, you get out in transition. Like Quincy Oliveri,
his biggest games a year ago didn't have a lot
to do with us drawing up all these set plays
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in a particular game to free him up. When he
had his breakout games. In the best games, the one
part that was always a constant is he thrived in transition.
Three point shots, got fouled, got a couple easy ones,
and I think for guards especially, you know that pace
is important, and for big guys as well, because you
know as a big guy being a rim runner, trailer
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and all the different things they can do. It's a
fun way to play and I just think it's it
puts us in a position to be at our best.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Coach, over the last couple of games, daveyon Is, I
think he's only taking like three three pointers. Are you
do you want him to take more just to keep
the defense on this.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, we go with that.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
We do.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
We want him to take them, and I'm surprised that
he didn't take one the other day against the Paw
And I think what happened is the game started to
go our way, and you know, he's a very unselfish guy.
I think he was content on being the playmaker and
pushing the pace. But we're going to need him to
take and make open threes down the stretch here. He's
more than capable, and you know, my hope is that
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as he gets going a little bit more in transition,
that'll lead into him being more confident from the three
point line.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Coach, I was enjoy hearing you talk about how you
evaluate point guards and scoring usually is somewhere down the
list unless you need it, then you bring it up
to the forefront. But when you evaluate point guards, what
do you look.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
At for first?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think somebody number one that likes to pass the ball.
You know, obviously today's point guard can shoot and score,
and you want people that are balanced. But you know,
I think you want to have a sense of a
quarterback on the court that can think, that can help
the team, that can make plays for others. And I
think when you have that unselfish mindset as the point guard,
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it's a lot easier to do a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I thought towards the end of the second half, Big
Knight did shoots about more. Obviously was that a request
from the bench, It's just something he did on his own.
He got about eighty five Midds jumpers, which I think
are a thing of beauty.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
By the way, did he did it more on his own?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But again, those jump shots that you're talking to, Joe,
it happened when we were in transition and when he
was playing with a lot of pace, and we certainly
want to keep that going.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
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Speaker 2 (13:36):
Go x Coaches. Past weekend, Xavier had their Hall of
Fame banquet and a couple former Xavier basketball players were
brought into the Hall of Fame. Jordan Crawford, Aaron Williams,
and you had those two gentlemen, along with Kobe Jones
come talk to your ball club afterwards. Talk about that
a little bit, and I found the stories of Jordan Crawford,
Aaron Williams, and also Zach Polk and Amy Cfring. The
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other folks went into the Hall of Fame Zach was
a terrific track and field sensation for the Xavier Musketeers
ABC for an everyday teen points as a senior for
the Women Musketeers, And when you hear their each individual
stories how there was a moment in time where they
decided to kind of work harder than they had been
working and the persistence they put in is really an
inspiring night. So you had the players into the locker
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room talk about the example they said and what they
talked to your players about.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, you know, Colby was there, Aaron and Jordan and
each of them had an opportunity to talk after our
game to our guys in the locker room. And I
don't think there's a more powerful message for a player
that's currently on our team than to hear from somebody
who's been in their shoes, who's been there and done
it and then gone on to do some amazing, remarkable
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things in the NBA, which is virtually every young person's
dream that plays this game.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Now, I'll start with Aaron Williams.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I don't know Aaron as well as obviously I know
Jordan and Colby, but I know Aaron's story and know
him through Chris Mack and it's really remarkable to think
about where Aaron Williams would have been as a high
school player.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You know, somebody that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Was so unherolded that his largest and biggest offer going
to college in terms of level was Xavier. And as
we know, that wasn't when we were in the Big
East back then, and it was a different league at
different time. Now, obviously some talented players were in the
program Byron and and then you know with Pete Gillen
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and Skip Prosser doing the recruiting efforts to just amazing coaches,
guys that just had a knack for finding diamonds in
the rough and identifying players that just fit Xavier as
both the university.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
On and off the court.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
But you know, Aaron just was almost like his brother said,
we were just almost surprised when we got the call, like.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
What, you're gonna give him a scholarship?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And then Aaron, you know, telling the story of how
it felt to have Tyrone Hill as his teammate, and
you know, guys like Derek Strong and him recognizing that, geez,
I'm not big enough, strong enough, I'm nowhere close to
where they are, And what he said was he went
home bottom muscle magazine. He said, open the muscle magazine. Up,
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started to pick workouts that were in the muscle magazine,
do them on his own, do them the entire summer.
And then return back to Xavier and everyone said, man,
what do you want steroids?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Like, how did you get this big? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I mean he just you know, that was pre strength coach,
pre what we all have going for us now. But
just his effort level, his commitment, you know, just the
the you know, being able to figure something out on
your own, do it, do it for an entire summer.
But anyway, just watching his growth and development from his
freshman year all the way to the end.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And then, like I.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Told our players, it's one thing to meet an NBA player,
It's an entire different conversation to meet somebody that's played
in the NBA for fourteen seasons. I mean, to make
it is hard to make it for three or four years.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Is remarkable.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
To be an NBA player for fourteen years, you're talking
about very few people in the world today have ever
done that. So not only that, but he's an NBA
Finals participant.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, somebody's been.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
In multiple NBA finals and has raised a wonderful family
and just to watch his perspective come from that story
and talk to our guys. I thought it was very
powerful for everybody on our team to hear.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I know it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It reminded me of how important it is to not
judge a young person on day one, but to really
try to see where did they.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Begin and where did they end, because you know, at
the end.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
That's really what Xavier's about, what we're about as coaches,
and what you want to see how much do your
players develop? And Aaron Williams, as he said it the
great his choice that he ever made was to tend
Xavier and it changed his life. So a very powerful
story from him. You know Jordan Crawford, who I know
a lot better. It was quite a character, as.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We all know.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
But you know Jordan what I'll tell you about him.
And I told our team. Of all the players that
I've been around in my three decades in college basketball,
I don't know if I've ever coached or been around
a player that has the combination of love of the game,
truly loves it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's everything to him.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Great competitor when the game begins, like we'll do anything
to win, hates to lose, whether it's a one on
one game after practice or a game in conference. And
then the third component for Jordan is this amazing belief
in himself. And you add those three things up, love
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of the game, great competitor, and strong belief in himself,
you have this player that's incredibly talented, who has this
chip on his shoulder trying to prove the world wrong
that he's better than you've ever thought he would be.
And he doesn't care who he's playing against. That his
belief in himself and his competitive spirit. And look, he
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played in the NBA for six years and what he
became here at Xavier in the one year one of
the greatest one year seasons that anyone's ever had. So Jordan,
when he talked our team, that's really the perspective that
he talked about how important it is to have that belief,
you know. And Aaron Williams what he talked the most
about is just really helping each other and knowing your role.
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You could see where they have two different perspectives, you know.
And I think Kolbe was just excited to be back
at Xavier and a young guy who's always the way, yeah,
as he should have he's he's a world class person
and obviously he's been a teammate with both Jerome and Zach,
so you know he attacked the message from a different perspective.
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But it was great to have those three guys back.
And Quincy Oliverari showed up today. He'll be at the
game tomorrow, so you'll you'll be able to see him.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
All right. This is a Sean Miller Coaches Show from
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Speaker 5 (20:23):
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was a very celebratory mood at the SENTA sent it
the other night to Shia Phillips and Amber Harris. I
believe got their jerseys. Yeah, number onctors.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
So when you when you come to the game tomorrow
against Butler and you look up there, you'll see that
there's two more jersey numbers that are retired. And to
Shia Phillips and Amber Harris, who were teammates. Kevin McGuff
recruited them. They went on to be in the Elite Eight.
I'm going to say the Elite Eight twice, maybe certainly once.
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I was at the game when we had a layup
and that would have been for the Final four, and
unfortunately it did not go in. But you know, those
two were amazing players. I think both were all Americans,
not only in high school but here at Xavier. I
think Amber was the player of the year in the
Atlantic Ten, maybe more than once. And when you look
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at the history of winning, what they accomplished individually and
in fact they were here together at the same time,
and they were friends from Indianapolis before they got here,
it's really a remarkable story.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So to see them here, I.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Know that members of the team coach McGuff, Mike Nahbor,
who is Kevin's assistant, who's now the head women's coach
at Arkansas, who also has been in the Final Four
as a former head coach at Washington. So those guys
have gone on to do great things since they've left Xavier,
but Amber and Tashia for them to be in the rafters,
it was it was nice to see. It was great
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to see everybody back and uh, and then the members
of that team as well. They got a sword, and
you know, the sword is the thing. I think it's
a unique gift to give to former players and people
that are leaving us. I think it's different than than
the normal jersey that you hang on on the wall.
So yeah, it was great to see everybody back and uh,
and quite an honor.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And you'll notice when you look up there, that's that's
who it is.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And it's amazing. When they were I think they played
aau together from Indianapolis and then they came to Xavier
all Americans. Both were first round draft choices in the
w n b A, so uh, you know, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Respect to them.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
They were two ballers, no doubt about it. Good to
see them get some right cognition.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Because you were talking earlier about Zavi's fast breaking offense
and how play sort of just happened. But I'd like
to hear more about the end of the first half
in Providence on the road. You call a time out.
There's one point eight seconds on the clock. Obviously, you
call time out with a purpose, and you throw the
ball three quarters of the court to the free throw line.
Lands on Zack's right shoulder. Remarkably, he took it off
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his shoulder, made a pivot towards the sideline and threw
up almost on my hooks and my jump shot. Yeah,
nothing but net. But how many times have you practiced that?
You do that every day?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I mean, you know, I know it's not it is
you know, yeah, you know it's a special situation, Joe,
But we probably don't practice it a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It doesn't happen a lot, you know, do you ever?
You rehearse that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Don't you.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I think our guys know what to do. Now here's
what I'll tell you that we've had some trial and
error on who does what? You know when you think
about a baseball pass. Here's one thing that's really changed
over the last twenty plus years. All of us grew
up and you played more than one sport. You certainly
played more than one sport when you were in grade school.
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You played more than one sport. Probably when you were
in middle school, and then maybe you weren't able to
as you got into high school. But if someone asked
you buying to throw a football, I bet would be
you could throw that thing easily. If you threw a baseball,
you knew exactly how to throw it and whatever, you'd
be surprised today. I mean this that guys that you
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would say are great athletes and you say, throw that
football or throw the baseball that you see it sometimes
on the first pitch of Major League Baseball games, Like
you'll see an athlete from another sport and they'll throw
the first pitch out and they'll get ready to throw
and you're like, that didn't look right. Well, what it
is is they never really threw the ball in the backyard.
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They didn't do those things in little league. Like all
the things you take for granted, they don't do. So
I'll give you an example. We've we've had that situation
occur in a game once. We've had it in practice
a couple of times. And I'm here to tell you,
like Zach can't throw it to himself. He's he's the
one guy that can both throw it and catch it.
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And we've we've tried to figure it out. And in
that huddle as it occurred, I looked at him and said,
who wants to throw the And I'm telling you Ryan Conwell.
And I could tell I could tell he knew what
he was doing. He said, Coach, I'll throw the pass.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I said, you're good with it? When he walked out there.
The other part that's amazing is there's this seven footer.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
On him right, Yeah, we noticed that, So that's how
he saw over the top of him. Yeah, he was
your great job.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
He ran the baseline, faked and he uncorked a great
pass through it exactly how you want to throw it,
and you know, Zach caught it, landed and threw a
lucky shot went in.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You know, Ryan, I thought made a really smart move.
It looked like when he was given the ball by
the official or prior to that, he backed up away
from the baseline just to create some space between him
and the player named Bonk who was something for two
and he threw it over the top. But that was
a remarkable play. Yeah, you know when you just went in,
what was your reaction? Did you just stay nice and
calm about the whole thing, or celebrating inside.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I did.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I celebrate it inside because you know, to get those
two points at the end of the half and you
already have a big lead. I mean it just it
gave us even more momentum going into halftime, and you
know that last time out if you save it, I
think sometimes as a coach, like what did I even?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What do I do with it? You almost should I
use it?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Should I not use it? And in that particular case,
it really saved us. It gave us an extra shot
at the basket, and it worked out.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Coach, I know, at least on the road at shooting practice,
you end every practice with everybody lines up at half
court and they practiced that that half court shot.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Does that happen at home as well?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, so we did that as far back as when
you know, coach Jackson, and Dante was here tonight when
he played. We just end every shoot around homer away
with a half court shot. At least every team that
I've had, That's that's really what we do.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And you know, go around.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Sometimes it takes a couple of rounds, but usually somebody's
gonna make it. And if you remember, you know, Dante
maybe the only big shot he made certainly we'll give
him credit.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He probably made more than one.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
But I'll tell you this one he made was was
a game changer, and that you know, he uncorked it
from about seven de feet. It was against Virginia Tech.
It was the first round of the Puerto Rican Puerto
Rico Invitational Tournament.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think it was a San Juan shootout. Maybe that
was a name back then.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I can still see that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, you know, Kim English would have been a player
on Missouri's team. Missouri was a team he played in
the second round. They were great today had like a
three seed or four seed. Memphis was there who we
played in the championship. But I remember we beat Virginia
Tech on that shot by Dante from seventy feet and
then and uh then we beat Missouri and then we
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beat Memphis. And I remember thinking on the plane ride home,
what a feeling it is to be in the NCAA
tournament before Thanksgiving. I mean we had we had like
an eight seed, a three seed, and a one seed
done all on a neutral court.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
So Cali Cali Peri was a coach at Memphis.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
That, yeah he was.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
But but uh so the reason why I bring that
up is. You know, as the coach, you always think
what do I do to make that happen? I attributed
Dante's shot to Hey, we work on it every every
game day, in every home or away.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
We work on a half court shot. So that that's
why it went in right. It'st yeah, but we do
that and haven't made one since Byron. That's been one.
So you think about it twenty years one time.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Do you remember our calling that shot? I think all
we did was screen. I do.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I do remember that, but I.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Knew what was going on. That was incredible that Dante's
here tonight, Dante, way to go. That was one of
our moments we remember, Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
I remember Dante and Dante committed to Xavier. You know,
it was between Xavier and Ohio State, and we were
just really lucky that he committed. And uh he had
a great, great, great career as a player and a coach.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And he also had those big three point shots in
the n c DOUAA Tournament as a freshman against Georgia.
Wasn't it we were trailing? Was the Georgia? I have
the right team in the corner.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I can't give him for something I can't remember. I am.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
He's over there looking like he doesn't remember. He knows,
you know exactly what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
How about Andy Kettler, And when you at this time
of the year, you probably appreciate him more than you
wouldn't say in the beginning of the season, because now
is when you're taking days off to rest your players
and your player strong and and he holds players accountable.
I mean all year long he does.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
He's tremendous at what he does. He's a real asset
to our program and really our our university. I think
he's one of the best in his field, in industry,
in the country. We're so lucky to have him. And
what I love the most about his program is it's comprehensive.
It's not just lifting weights and building muscle. It's injury prevention,
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strength and conditioning. There's a real conditioning element, there's flexibility,
there's recovery. And he really works in concert with Connor Barnes,
who's our trainer. He works in concert with me and
our staff and different people here in Cincinnati, including our doctors,
just to make sure that each one of our players
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is treated like an individual. There are certain things we
do as a group. But you know, Jerome Hunter, with
his pre existing injuries and where he's at in his career,
he's a much different person and athlete than Dalen Swain is,
who's young and nineteen years old. So what Jerome needs
in the month of February here at this point in
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his career could be different than what Dalen needs at
this point and juncture in February and his younger career.
And it's so important to have the ability to handle
both because they're both vital, they're both on your team,
and they're and they need some different things. And you know,
we trust, you know, coach ket when it comes to that,
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and you're right, Joe, at this time of year, keeping
our team healthy. I mean, you think about our season
right now. We played in Philadelphia on Sunday at noon.
We left on Saturday. We then came back and we
got a quick turnaround. We played at Providence on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
We came back.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I think we all got home about three point thirty
in the morning, maybe four am by the time we
walked in the door. We had a noon Saturday tip
off against DePaul. So that's seven days, three games and
seven days and now we play our fourth game, and
I guess would be ten days against Butler at home
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at an eight pm tip. So four games, ten days,
gold weather, every game being very meaningful. In the middle
of February, you know, you could see where recovery, strength
and conditioning and being intelligent, all those things really add
up to be very important.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
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Speaker 5 (32:30):
Coach. You know, as this junior year, Ryan's down for
Ryan comwell, he's averaged thirty two minutes a game, he's
shooting forty two from three, and I think he's having
a terrific year fifteen points per game. This is a
step up in competition for him, and I know you're
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really excited when he joined the program. Talk a little
bit about what it's like to coach him and what
he is brought to the team.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You know, earlier you guys said that we don't talk
enough about Zach and some simply because he's such a
constant and he's been so consistent he's been with us,
and I feel like the same can be said in
similar way about Ryan Conwell. You know, Ryan's been the
steady force in the backcourt for us from the opening
game all the way until last game. You know, when
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you're the other coach or the team that's getting ready
to play us and they're going to put their best
perimeter player on Ryan, they're going to try to make
the game difficult for him, to take away his strengths
and to really just try to make it so that
he's not an efficient player. And when teams are doing that,
I mean it takes everything. You know, you learn, how
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to move without the ball easier, how to get open better,
the importance of utilizing screens, decision making when to go,
when not to go, And I just think in all areas,
Ryan is a better player today than he was in November.
You know, some of it is through trial and error,
some of it is the great games he's had. Keep
it in mind what he did to Villanova at home right,
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where he had more than twenty points in the second half,
A lot of them came in the final minutes all
in a row, almost single handedly willed us.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
To that victory.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And when you look at him and Zach there are
top two scorers, but defensively rebounding.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Off the ball, his decision.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Making where you know, being a little bit more shorthanded
handling the ball with pressure passing, being able to play
not just one position, but remember anytime but Davion McKnight
is out of the game, Ryan Conwell plays the point guard,
and that's a big job, you know, because you have
to go from being the recipient of passes and allowing
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Davion to be the point guard where you're freed up
to score, and then all of a sudden you have
to be the point guard and be the distributor. That's
not an easy thing to do. And I think he's
gotten better with that and it's fun to watch him grow.
It hasn't always been easy, because again he's the marked
man Byron. When somebody starts with the game plan on us,
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it starts with how do you do you take him
out of it? And it's in terms of coachability, being
fun to coach, being a great teammate, being a hard worker.
Ryan Conwell is all of that. And I do believe
this that with all the experiences that he now has,
and you're right, at a higher level, every game he's playing,
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he's playing against an elite opponent, you know, a top
notch team, a coach on the other side who really
has a system that's forced him to reach, reach higher
and be better. But because of that, I think now
that he has all the games experience under his belt,
he's healthy, he's had you know again practices that he
could really hit his stride down the end. It would
(35:50):
not surprise me if when we all look back at
our season that we don't point to a Ryan Conwell
playing his best basketball at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
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Speaker 5 (36:11):
The coach Dante Maddox. You know, as we kind of
head down to stretch here, been playing I believe, really
really good basketball against Villanov He scores twenty four points.
The next game at Providence, he scores twenty six and
then against the Paul in the game that you lead
wire to wire, you have five players and double figures,
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he only takes three shots. And I think that shows
a lot of maturity on his behalf, because that's like, Hey,
I just want to do what I need to do
to win the game, and if it's takes me shooting
from shooting the shot, I will, if not deferring and
doing other things. Talk a little bit about him.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
He's really developing, And you know, I mentioned it last week.
I really tipped my hat to Dante because it's very
easy to get disgruntled when you don't have success leaving
one school and transferring to the other. In Dante's case,
he only has one year with us, so you want
it to be perfect, and sometimes it doesn't go perfect.
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He's had his bumps in the road, as we all have,
not only this year, but that's college basketball. How you
handle those bumps in the road, now, that's an entirely
different narrative in story, and in Dante's case. I don't
know if him and his family, but just Dante in particular,
could embrace the situation any better. He's never really hung
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his head. He certainly had moments where he wanted to
play more, wanted to do better, wanted to be able
to point towards success, but if it didn't happen, his
way of getting out of it was just to show up,
to ask questions, to watch more film, to practice hard,
to stay after practice, to work on his game in
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between classes or before practice.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
He's never wavered. Never, Not a.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Single week this year has he really been much different
than the first week that he came here in early June.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
And I think his.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Resolve, his character is just being a great teammate. All
that's really shown up and it's spiraled and put him
in a position where he's playing his best basketball of
his career. Look, you don't go at Villanova in Philadelphia
and get twenty four and three days later at Providence
and you get twenty six if you can't play.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Now back to your point, some of.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
It was the score of the game, and he had
five defensive rebounds. And again, when you have that type
of scoring, the other coach and the other team they're
not going to just let you be open. So he's
more of a marked man today than he would have
been a month ago. But he has to take the
open shot Byron like he only took three. We want
him to take more than that. And I think tomorrow
(38:55):
night would be another case where when he's open, we
want him to shoot it because he's such an explosive.
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sean Miller coaches show. I'm from Dilly Bistro and Maryman.
I'm Joe Sunderman, along with Byron Larkin, the head coach
of the Xavier Musketeers Sean Miller. Zavier this past week
won a couple of ball games ninety one eighty two
over Providence and then on Saturday knocked off the paul
I score of eighty five to sixty eight. Zavers now
sixteen and ten of the season, eight and seven in
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the Big Eastern playing some plaints pretty good bass.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, you know, we had a good week last week.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Joe and obviously Zach Fremantle headlined it by getting the
Big East Player of the of the Week award. Which
you know is a real credit to Zach and our team.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, you're the biggest player of the week.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
There's so many good players playing well and important games
that you know, I think it's a it's a great accomplishment,
and especially in the month of February when all of
us want to be playing.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
At our best.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It was great to see Zach string together two games
like he did, one on the road and and won
at home. It's great to have him healthy, and my
hope is that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
He continues to go from.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
This point forward and uh and and even play better basketball.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, coach it it seems like we don't talk about
Zach enough on this show and after the games. I mean,
because he has been consistent every game he has played
for you this year. He scored in double figures and
your leading scorer, he's your leading rebounder. And you know,
one of the big things that that I tried to
(02:01):
like when I was a player, to provide some consistency,
so you knew exactly what you were going to get
out of out of meat as a player. And it
seems like that's that's what you're getting Zach this year.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You're right, Byron, I mean think about this.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He's scored in double figures in every game that he's
played this year. And if you just start with that
and you consider the competition, and let's go all the
way back to whether it's a game like at UC
in the Crosstown shootout or Wake Forest at home, you know,
playing in Florida over the holidays against the front line
of Michigan and playing South Carolina, and then you know,
moving throughout at TCU and moving into the Big East Conference.
(02:40):
And how about this coming back from not doing anything
for three weeks where we thought, you know, he was
gonna be injured and miss more than he really did.
But I don't know if anything's more difficult then to
get injured, go through the rehabilitation process, separate from the team,
not practice, not participating games, in his case, not travel,
(03:03):
and then start to come back and practice and play
and just pick right up where you left off.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So with Zach, when we talk about it, he's never
you know, not been in double figures.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Now consistent, he's been.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I think that last part of the equation is something
to really consider. It makes it even more special in
my mind. But from an offensive perspective, his shooting is
coming along. He's scoring, he's more efficient, and he's really
playing good basketball right now.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But the other thing about him is like every night
usually he's playing the five, and I don't think he's
naturally a five, but he seems like every night out
there he's undersized in the post. Yeah, Yet, you know,
I think defensively, you know better than me obviously that
he's doing a good job. You know, given that he's
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usually given up a couple of inches and you know,
about ten or fifteen pounds in the post, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I mean, we're asking him to do a lot sometimes
that that mismatch works to his advantage on offense. However, defensively,
you know, we have to do it as a team
and it doesn't just fall on him.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
But look, zach'sa having a great final year.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I think all of US fans, coaches, his teammates, what
we really want from him is from him to be
healthy for the rest of the year. Whenever our last
game is that he's in that last game and playing.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
To the best of his ability.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
You know, think about three season ending surgeries right, never
transferred stayed with us, has his degree fought through a
lot of obstacles in diversity, which includes, you know, the
thing in December that happened in which he thought and
we thought he potentially could be lost for the year
(04:44):
that ended up not being the case, thank goodness, and
then just watching him return back to the court.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
He's really playing some very good basketball.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And you're right, he's easy to take for granted and
not talk about a lot because he's the constant, and look,
we need him to continue to be the constant, especially
tomorrow night against Butler.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Coach.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
A couple of weeks ago, you talked about the fact
that Zack spends a lot of time working on his
three point shot and is diligent about it, and you
thought he'd break out and shoot the three. Well, the
last three games he's six for eleven from three point range.
The last two games aver his scored at ninety one
eighty five points. I'm sure there's a correlation there between that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, and I think some of it, Joe is just
to take the good ones, right, and you know, the
ones that are open. Big guys like you sometimes can
hunt threes because you want to be.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
A guard if you're a little bit shooting right.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So we're constantly aware of that.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
The three point shot that Zach takes are good ones,
and I think when he does take good ones, they're
a great shot for our team. He works on it,
We work on it with him, and we want him
to take the three point shot. And as we've talked
a little bit about John Hyuglee and also Jerome Hunter,
you know, the three players that really manned the front
court for us, and all of them in their own
(05:58):
right have contributed, you know, and again, if they're taking open, wide,
open shots, we look at it as a good shot
for our team.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's part of our style.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
And hopefully moving forward, those three guys could continue to
be consistent.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, coaching, And speaking of Jerome Hunter, we haven't talked
about him much, but over the last couple of games,
he he's two for four from behind the arc. I mean,
I guess if you're practicing them and making them in practice,
you're gonna let them shoot in the game. And virtually
everyone on your team shoots threes, right, and you know.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Byron, the game has evolved and changed, and you know,
I think that that's the way you have to be
a good shooter to shoot them. Some guys, you know,
have more clearance than others, but I think being able,
especially at that top of the key area, to be
able to take open, uncontested shots, it makes your offense
much more difficult. You know, when you're watching us and
you see Zach make a couple and John Knocks went
(06:53):
in or Jerome Knocks went in, you know, it almost
helps everybody else, not just them, and it opens the
flu gate. It gives more space for drives and a
lot of good things, you know, play play off of that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I was impressed with a dunkin hunter Head. I think
it might have been passed from Swain. And you lead
the Big East in fast break points and what I'm
impressed by every single player you put on the floor
can be on the scoring end of a fast break situation.
They all run the floor well. And and obviously Swain
was just marvelous with his head up finding and the
open players on Saturday and Hunter. You know in that
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play by Hunter, that's the kind of play I think
you could really put him on track to finish very
strong for the season.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What do you think, Yeah, the we're going to be
at our best, Joe when we're in transition.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You know, if that's you know, the subject we're talking about,
like and I think it all starts with Daveon McKnight,
you know, as our point guard, when he pushes the ball.
And you know, i'd say about a week and a
half two weeks ago, we really had a meeting with
Daveyon because you know, I think there's a healthy balance
of if you play fast, you have to be smart,
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you have to make good decisions. And we want to
play fast, but we also want to take good shots
and take good.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Care of the ball.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
But one of the things that we talked to davey
On about is just for him to take more accountability
and ownership and pushing the pace. And if you think
back to our Providence game, we didn't necessarily get off
to a great start in the game, but it wasn't
because of our offense, and it wasn't because of our pace.
We really got off to a great start early, and
really I thought against DePaul did oh for that, And
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I give him a lot of credit because if your
point guard pushes the ball and he's running and playing
intelligently in transition, guys like Jerome and Dalen, you know,
the three point shooting that seems to just accompany that.
So I give a Davon a lot of credit. That's
something we're really keeping a keen eye on down the stretch,
that we really keep our pace and try to play
(08:53):
in that fast mode.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Coach, you definitely were kind of out to the races
versus DePaul. I mean the pace was deaf. NETI there
a relative to Daveyon. He kind of had a breakout
game offensively. He scored fourteen points. That was the first
time in five games he had scored double figures in
addition to pushing the pace. What are your conversations about
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him relative to his offense.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well, I would say that we have learned over this
year Byron how important the fast tempo is to Daveyon.
So if you really drill down and look at you know,
he was five for eight from the floor and four
for four from the free throw line. He had four
assists and only one turnover. And you know he pushed
the ball about as hard as a point guard can
(09:40):
push it in a college game. Out of his five
field goals, I would be willing to bet you that
three of them happened in transition, and then in same
thing with him getting foult of his four free throws,
I think two of the four came just pushing the
ball in pace. So I think when you think about
him being in double figures or being more aggressive, the
faster than game is, the more that he's in transition,
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that's when he's at his best. And I think that
although we've played at a fast tempo this year, it
hasn't been as fast as a year ago, and when
you look at his production, some of that is correlating.
So I think as we continue to look at what
we can do to finish strong and be at our best,
you know, playing at a fast pace, obviously taking good
(10:24):
shots and taking care of the ball, we feel like
that brings out the best in Daveyon and in some
of our other players. You know, Joe mentioned Jerome's dunk,
but those are the byproducts of playing with pace. Things happen,
you know, you get out in transition. Like Quincy Oliveri,
his biggest games a year ago didn't have a lot
to do with us drawing up all these set plays
(10:45):
in a particular game to free him up. When he
had his breakout games. In the best games, the one
part that was always a constant is he thrived in transition.
Three point shots, got fouled, got a couple easy ones,
and I think for guards especially, you know that pace
is important, and for big guys as well, because you
know as a big guy being a rim runner, trailer
(11:06):
and all the different things they can do. It's a
fun way to play and I just think it's it
puts us in a position to be at our best.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Coach, over the last couple of games, daveyon Is, I
think he's only taking like three three pointers. Are you
do you want him to take more just to keep
the defense on this.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, we go with that.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
We do.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
We want him to take them, and I'm surprised that
he didn't take one the other day against the Paw
And I think what happened is the game started to
go our way, and you know, he's a very unselfish guy.
I think he was content on being the playmaker and
pushing the pace. But we're going to need him to
take and make open threes down the stretch here. He's
more than capable, and you know, my hope is that
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as he gets going a little bit more in transition,
that'll lead into him being more confident from the three
point line.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Coach, I was enjoy hearing you talk about how you
evaluate point guards and scoring usually is somewhere down the
list unless you need it, then you bring it up
to the forefront. But when you evaluate point guards, what
do you look.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
At for first?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think somebody number one that likes to pass the ball.
You know, obviously today's point guard can shoot and score,
and you want people that are balanced. But you know,
I think you want to have a sense of a
quarterback on the court that can think, that can help
the team, that can make plays for others. And I
think when you have that unselfish mindset as the point guard,
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it's a lot easier to do a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I thought towards the end of the second half, Big
Knight did shoots about more. Obviously was that a request
from the bench, It's just something he did on his own.
He got about eighty five Midds jumpers, which I think
are a thing of beauty.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
By the way, did he did it more on his own?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But again, those jump shots that you're talking to, Joe,
it happened when we were in transition and when he
was playing with a lot of pace, and we certainly
want to keep that going.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
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Speaker 5 (13:04):
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Speaker 2 (13:36):
Go x Coaches. Past weekend, Xavier had their Hall of
Fame banquet and a couple former Xavier basketball players were
brought into the Hall of Fame. Jordan Crawford, Aaron Williams,
and you had those two gentlemen, along with Kobe Jones
come talk to your ball club afterwards. Talk about that
a little bit, and I found the stories of Jordan Crawford,
Aaron Williams, and also Zach Polk and Amy Cfring. The
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other folks went into the Hall of Fame Zach was
a terrific track and field sensation for the Xavier Musketeers
ABC for an everyday teen points as a senior for
the Women Musketeers, And when you hear their each individual
stories how there was a moment in time where they
decided to kind of work harder than they had been
working and the persistence they put in is really an
inspiring night. So you had the players into the locker
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room talk about the example they said and what they
talked to your players about.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, you know, Colby was there, Aaron and Jordan and
each of them had an opportunity to talk after our
game to our guys in the locker room. And I
don't think there's a more powerful message for a player
that's currently on our team than to hear from somebody
who's been in their shoes, who's been there and done
it and then gone on to do some amazing, remarkable
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things in the NBA, which is virtually every young person's
dream that plays this game.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Now, I'll start with Aaron Williams.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I don't know Aaron as well as obviously I know
Jordan and Colby, but I know Aaron's story and know
him through Chris Mack and it's really remarkable to think
about where Aaron Williams would have been as a high
school player.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You know, somebody that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Was so unherolded that his largest and biggest offer going
to college in terms of level was Xavier. And as
we know, that wasn't when we were in the Big
East back then, and it was a different league at
different time. Now, obviously some talented players were in the
program Byron and and then you know with Pete Gillen
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and Skip Prosser doing the recruiting efforts to just amazing coaches,
guys that just had a knack for finding diamonds in
the rough and identifying players that just fit Xavier as
both the university.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
On and off the court.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
But you know, Aaron just was almost like his brother said,
we were just almost surprised when we got the call, like.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
What, you're gonna give him a scholarship?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And then Aaron, you know, telling the story of how
it felt to have Tyrone Hill as his teammate, and
you know, guys like Derek Strong and him recognizing that, geez,
I'm not big enough, strong enough, I'm nowhere close to
where they are, And what he said was he went
home bottom muscle magazine. He said, open the muscle magazine. Up,
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started to pick workouts that were in the muscle magazine,
do them on his own, do them the entire summer.
And then return back to Xavier and everyone said, man,
what do you want steroids?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Like, how did you get this big? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I mean he just you know, that was pre strength coach,
pre what we all have going for us now. But
just his effort level, his commitment, you know, just the
the you know, being able to figure something out on
your own, do it, do it for an entire summer.
But anyway, just watching his growth and development from his
freshman year all the way to the end.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And then, like I.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Told our players, it's one thing to meet an NBA player,
It's an entire different conversation to meet somebody that's played
in the NBA for fourteen seasons. I mean, to make
it is hard to make it for three or four years.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Is remarkable.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
To be an NBA player for fourteen years, you're talking
about very few people in the world today have ever
done that. So not only that, but he's an NBA
Finals participant.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, somebody's been.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
In multiple NBA finals and has raised a wonderful family
and just to watch his perspective come from that story
and talk to our guys. I thought it was very
powerful for everybody on our team to hear.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I know it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It reminded me of how important it is to not
judge a young person on day one, but to really
try to see where did they.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Begin and where did they end, because you know, at
the end.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
That's really what Xavier's about, what we're about as coaches,
and what you want to see how much do your
players develop? And Aaron Williams, as he said it the
great his choice that he ever made was to tend
Xavier and it changed his life. So a very powerful
story from him. You know Jordan Crawford, who I know
a lot better. It was quite a character, as.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We all know.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
But you know Jordan what I'll tell you about him.
And I told our team. Of all the players that
I've been around in my three decades in college basketball,
I don't know if I've ever coached or been around
a player that has the combination of love of the game,
truly loves it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's everything to him.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Great competitor when the game begins, like we'll do anything
to win, hates to lose, whether it's a one on
one game after practice or a game in conference. And
then the third component for Jordan is this amazing belief
in himself. And you add those three things up, love
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of the game, great competitor, and strong belief in himself,
you have this player that's incredibly talented, who has this
chip on his shoulder trying to prove the world wrong
that he's better than you've ever thought he would be.
And he doesn't care who he's playing against. That his
belief in himself and his competitive spirit. And look, he
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played in the NBA for six years and what he
became here at Xavier in the one year one of
the greatest one year seasons that anyone's ever had. So Jordan,
when he talked our team, that's really the perspective that
he talked about how important it is to have that belief,
you know. And Aaron Williams what he talked the most
about is just really helping each other and knowing your role.
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You could see where they have two different perspectives, you know.
And I think Kolbe was just excited to be back
at Xavier and a young guy who's always the way, yeah,
as he should have he's he's a world class person
and obviously he's been a teammate with both Jerome and Zach,
so you know he attacked the message from a different perspective.
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But it was great to have those three guys back.
And Quincy Oliverari showed up today. He'll be at the
game tomorrow, so you'll you'll be able to see him.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
All right. This is a Sean Miller Coaches Show from
Dilly Bistroll and Murraymount on fifty five KRC and the
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Coaches Show.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
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was a very celebratory mood at the SENTA sent it
the other night to Shia Phillips and Amber Harris. I
believe got their jerseys. Yeah, number onctors.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
So when you when you come to the game tomorrow
against Butler and you look up there, you'll see that
there's two more jersey numbers that are retired. And to
Shia Phillips and Amber Harris, who were teammates. Kevin McGuff
recruited them. They went on to be in the Elite Eight.
I'm going to say the Elite Eight twice, maybe certainly once.
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I was at the game when we had a layup
and that would have been for the Final four, and
unfortunately it did not go in. But you know, those
two were amazing players. I think both were all Americans,
not only in high school but here at Xavier. I
think Amber was the player of the year in the
Atlantic Ten, maybe more than once. And when you look
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at the history of winning, what they accomplished individually and
in fact they were here together at the same time,
and they were friends from Indianapolis before they got here,
it's really a remarkable story.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So to see them here, I.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Know that members of the team coach McGuff, Mike Nahbor,
who is Kevin's assistant, who's now the head women's coach
at Arkansas, who also has been in the Final Four
as a former head coach at Washington. So those guys
have gone on to do great things since they've left Xavier,
but Amber and Tashia for them to be in the rafters,
it was it was nice to see. It was great
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to see everybody back and uh, and then the members
of that team as well. They got a sword, and
you know, the sword is the thing. I think it's
a unique gift to give to former players and people
that are leaving us. I think it's different than than
the normal jersey that you hang on on the wall.
So yeah, it was great to see everybody back and uh,
and quite an honor.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And you'll notice when you look up there, that's that's
who it is.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And it's amazing. When they were I think they played
aau together from Indianapolis and then they came to Xavier
all Americans. Both were first round draft choices in the
w n b A, so uh, you know, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Respect to them.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
They were two ballers, no doubt about it. Good to
see them get some right cognition.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Because you were talking earlier about Zavi's fast breaking offense
and how play sort of just happened. But I'd like
to hear more about the end of the first half
in Providence on the road. You call a time out.
There's one point eight seconds on the clock. Obviously, you
call time out with a purpose, and you throw the
ball three quarters of the court to the free throw line.
Lands on Zack's right shoulder. Remarkably, he took it off
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his shoulder, made a pivot towards the sideline and threw
up almost on my hooks and my jump shot. Yeah,
nothing but net. But how many times have you practiced that?
You do that every day?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I mean, you know, I know it's not it is
you know, yeah, you know it's a special situation, Joe,
But we probably don't practice it a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It doesn't happen a lot, you know, do you ever?
You rehearse that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Don't you.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I think our guys know what to do. Now here's
what I'll tell you that we've had some trial and
error on who does what? You know when you think
about a baseball pass. Here's one thing that's really changed
over the last twenty plus years. All of us grew
up and you played more than one sport. You certainly
played more than one sport when you were in grade school.
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You played more than one sport. Probably when you were
in middle school, and then maybe you weren't able to
as you got into high school. But if someone asked
you buying to throw a football, I bet would be
you could throw that thing easily. If you threw a baseball,
you knew exactly how to throw it and whatever, you'd
be surprised today. I mean this that guys that you
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would say are great athletes and you say, throw that
football or throw the baseball that you see it sometimes
on the first pitch of Major League Baseball games, Like
you'll see an athlete from another sport and they'll throw
the first pitch out and they'll get ready to throw
and you're like, that didn't look right. Well, what it
is is they never really threw the ball in the backyard.
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They didn't do those things in little league. Like all
the things you take for granted, they don't do. So
I'll give you an example. We've we've had that situation
occur in a game once. We've had it in practice
a couple of times. And I'm here to tell you,
like Zach can't throw it to himself. He's he's the
one guy that can both throw it and catch it.
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And we've we've tried to figure it out. And in
that huddle as it occurred, I looked at him and said,
who wants to throw the And I'm telling you Ryan Conwell.
And I could tell I could tell he knew what
he was doing. He said, Coach, I'll throw the pass.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I said, you're good with it? When he walked out there.
The other part that's amazing is there's this seven footer.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
On him right, Yeah, we noticed that, So that's how
he saw over the top of him. Yeah, he was
your great job.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
He ran the baseline, faked and he uncorked a great
pass through it exactly how you want to throw it,
and you know, Zach caught it, landed and threw a
lucky shot went in.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You know, Ryan, I thought made a really smart move.
It looked like when he was given the ball by
the official or prior to that, he backed up away
from the baseline just to create some space between him
and the player named Bonk who was something for two
and he threw it over the top. But that was
a remarkable play. Yeah, you know when you just went in,
what was your reaction? Did you just stay nice and
calm about the whole thing, or celebrating inside.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I did.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I celebrate it inside because you know, to get those
two points at the end of the half and you
already have a big lead. I mean it just it
gave us even more momentum going into halftime, and you
know that last time out if you save it, I
think sometimes as a coach, like what did I even?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What do I do with it? You almost should I
use it?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Should I not use it? And in that particular case,
it really saved us. It gave us an extra shot
at the basket, and it worked out.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Coach, I know, at least on the road at shooting practice,
you end every practice with everybody lines up at half
court and they practiced that that half court shot.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Does that happen at home as well?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, so we did that as far back as when
you know, coach Jackson, and Dante was here tonight when
he played. We just end every shoot around homer away
with a half court shot. At least every team that
I've had, That's that's really what we do.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And you know, go around.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Sometimes it takes a couple of rounds, but usually somebody's
gonna make it. And if you remember, you know, Dante
maybe the only big shot he made certainly we'll give
him credit.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He probably made more than one.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
But I'll tell you this one he made was was
a game changer, and that you know, he uncorked it
from about seven de feet. It was against Virginia Tech.
It was the first round of the Puerto Rican Puerto
Rico Invitational Tournament.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think it was a San Juan shootout. Maybe that
was a name back then.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I can still see that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, you know, Kim English would have been a player
on Missouri's team. Missouri was a team he played in
the second round. They were great today had like a
three seed or four seed. Memphis was there who we
played in the championship. But I remember we beat Virginia
Tech on that shot by Dante from seventy feet and
then and uh then we beat Missouri and then we
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beat Memphis. And I remember thinking on the plane ride home,
what a feeling it is to be in the NCAA
tournament before Thanksgiving. I mean we had we had like
an eight seed, a three seed, and a one seed
done all on a neutral court.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
So Cali Cali Peri was a coach at Memphis.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
That, yeah he was.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
But but uh so the reason why I bring that
up is. You know, as the coach, you always think
what do I do to make that happen? I attributed
Dante's shot to Hey, we work on it every every
game day, in every home or away.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
We work on a half court shot. So that that's
why it went in right. It'st yeah, but we do
that and haven't made one since Byron. That's been one.
So you think about it twenty years one time.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Do you remember our calling that shot? I think all
we did was screen. I do.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I do remember that, but I.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Knew what was going on. That was incredible that Dante's
here tonight, Dante, way to go. That was one of
our moments we remember, Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
I remember Dante and Dante committed to Xavier. You know,
it was between Xavier and Ohio State, and we were
just really lucky that he committed. And uh he had
a great, great, great career as a player and a coach.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And he also had those big three point shots in
the n c DOUAA Tournament as a freshman against Georgia.
Wasn't it we were trailing? Was the Georgia? I have
the right team in the corner.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I can't give him for something I can't remember. I am.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
He's over there looking like he doesn't remember. He knows,
you know exactly what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
How about Andy Kettler, And when you at this time
of the year, you probably appreciate him more than you
wouldn't say in the beginning of the season, because now
is when you're taking days off to rest your players
and your player strong and and he holds players accountable.
I mean all year long he does.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
He's tremendous at what he does. He's a real asset
to our program and really our our university. I think
he's one of the best in his field, in industry,
in the country. We're so lucky to have him. And
what I love the most about his program is it's comprehensive.
It's not just lifting weights and building muscle. It's injury prevention,
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strength and conditioning. There's a real conditioning element, there's flexibility,
there's recovery. And he really works in concert with Connor Barnes,
who's our trainer. He works in concert with me and
our staff and different people here in Cincinnati, including our doctors,
just to make sure that each one of our players
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is treated like an individual. There are certain things we
do as a group. But you know, Jerome Hunter, with
his pre existing injuries and where he's at in his career,
he's a much different person and athlete than Dalen Swain is,
who's young and nineteen years old. So what Jerome needs
in the month of February here at this point in
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his career could be different than what Dalen needs at
this point and juncture in February and his younger career.
And it's so important to have the ability to handle
both because they're both vital, they're both on your team,
and they're and they need some different things. And you know,
we trust, you know, coach ket when it comes to that,
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and you're right, Joe, at this time of year, keeping
our team healthy. I mean, you think about our season
right now. We played in Philadelphia on Sunday at noon.
We left on Saturday. We then came back and we
got a quick turnaround. We played at Providence on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
We came back.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I think we all got home about three point thirty
in the morning, maybe four am by the time we
walked in the door. We had a noon Saturday tip
off against DePaul. So that's seven days, three games and
seven days and now we play our fourth game, and
I guess would be ten days against Butler at home
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at an eight pm tip. So four games, ten days,
gold weather, every game being very meaningful. In the middle
of February, you know, you could see where recovery, strength
and conditioning and being intelligent, all those things really add
up to be very important.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
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Speaker 5 (32:30):
Coach. You know, as this junior year, Ryan's down for
Ryan comwell, he's averaged thirty two minutes a game, he's
shooting forty two from three, and I think he's having
a terrific year fifteen points per game. This is a
step up in competition for him, and I know you're
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really excited when he joined the program. Talk a little
bit about what it's like to coach him and what
he is brought to the team.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You know, earlier you guys said that we don't talk
enough about Zach and some simply because he's such a
constant and he's been so consistent he's been with us,
and I feel like the same can be said in
similar way about Ryan Conwell. You know, Ryan's been the
steady force in the backcourt for us from the opening
game all the way until last game. You know, when
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you're the other coach or the team that's getting ready
to play us and they're going to put their best
perimeter player on Ryan, they're going to try to make
the game difficult for him, to take away his strengths
and to really just try to make it so that
he's not an efficient player. And when teams are doing that,
I mean it takes everything. You know, you learn, how
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to move without the ball easier, how to get open better,
the importance of utilizing screens, decision making when to go,
when not to go, And I just think in all areas,
Ryan is a better player today than he was in November.
You know, some of it is through trial and error,
some of it is the great games he's had. Keep
it in mind what he did to Villanova at home right,
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where he had more than twenty points in the second half,
A lot of them came in the final minutes all
in a row, almost single handedly willed us.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
To that victory.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And when you look at him and Zach there are
top two scorers, but defensively rebounding.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Off the ball, his decision.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Making where you know, being a little bit more shorthanded
handling the ball with pressure passing, being able to play
not just one position, but remember anytime but Davion McKnight
is out of the game, Ryan Conwell plays the point guard,
and that's a big job, you know, because you have
to go from being the recipient of passes and allowing
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Davion to be the point guard where you're freed up
to score, and then all of a sudden you have
to be the point guard and be the distributor. That's
not an easy thing to do. And I think he's
gotten better with that and it's fun to watch him grow.
It hasn't always been easy, because again he's the marked
man Byron. When somebody starts with the game plan on us,
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it starts with how do you do you take him
out of it? And it's in terms of coachability, being
fun to coach, being a great teammate, being a hard worker.
Ryan Conwell is all of that. And I do believe
this that with all the experiences that he now has,
and you're right, at a higher level, every game he's playing,
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he's playing against an elite opponent, you know, a top
notch team, a coach on the other side who really
has a system that's forced him to reach, reach higher
and be better. But because of that, I think now
that he has all the games experience under his belt,
he's healthy, he's had you know again practices that he
could really hit his stride down the end. It would
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not surprise me if when we all look back at
our season that we don't point to a Ryan Conwell
playing his best basketball at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
This is a Sean Miller Coaches Show from Billy Bistro
and Marrymout on fifty five KRC and the Varsity Network.
Welcome back to the Sean Miller's Coaches Show from Dilly b.
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Speaker 5 (36:11):
The coach Dante Maddox. You know, as we kind of
head down to stretch here, been playing I believe, really
really good basketball against Villanov He scores twenty four points.
The next game at Providence, he scores twenty six and
then against the Paul in the game that you lead
wire to wire, you have five players and double figures,
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he only takes three shots. And I think that shows
a lot of maturity on his behalf, because that's like, Hey,
I just want to do what I need to do
to win the game, and if it's takes me shooting
from shooting the shot, I will, if not deferring and
doing other things. Talk a little bit about him.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
He's really developing, And you know, I mentioned it last week.
I really tipped my hat to Dante because it's very
easy to get disgruntled when you don't have success leaving
one school and transferring to the other. In Dante's case,
he only has one year with us, so you want
it to be perfect, and sometimes it doesn't go perfect.
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He's had his bumps in the road, as we all have,
not only this year, but that's college basketball. How you
handle those bumps in the road, now, that's an entirely
different narrative in story, and in Dante's case. I don't
know if him and his family, but just Dante in particular,
could embrace the situation any better. He's never really hung
(37:35):
his head. He certainly had moments where he wanted to
play more, wanted to do better, wanted to be able
to point towards success, but if it didn't happen, his
way of getting out of it was just to show up,
to ask questions, to watch more film, to practice hard,
to stay after practice, to work on his game in
(37:56):
between classes or before practice.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
He's never wavered. Never, Not a.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Single week this year has he really been much different
than the first week that he came here in early June.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
And I think his.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Resolve, his character is just being a great teammate. All
that's really shown up and it's spiraled and put him
in a position where he's playing his best basketball of
his career. Look, you don't go at Villanova in Philadelphia
and get twenty four and three days later at Providence
and you get twenty six if you can't play.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Now back to your point, some of.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
It was the score of the game, and he had
five defensive rebounds. And again, when you have that type
of scoring, the other coach and the other team they're
not going to just let you be open. So he's
more of a marked man today than he would have
been a month ago. But he has to take the
open shot Byron like he only took three. We want
him to take more than that. And I think tomorrow
(38:55):
night would be another case where when he's open, we
want him to shoot it because he's such an explosive.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Thank you for joining us for the Shawn Miller Coaches
Show from Dylli Bistro and Marymountaut fifty five KR SAT
and the Varsity Network.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Live from the Dilly Bistro in Marrimont. This has been
the Sean Miller Radio Show on the Xavier Sports Network
from Learfield, presented by Try Health. Try Health provides surprisingly
human care that drives the best health outcomes. Be seen,
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(39:39):
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