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Welcome to the summer series Coach, a show with Richard Patino,
live from Sorrento's, located in the heart of Norwood. I'm
Joe Sunderman along with the head coach of the Xavier Musketeers,
Richard Patino. In the first order of business, I'd say
order the meatballs. They're wonderful here at Sorrento's. I would
do that first. But also Byron Larkin is traveling and
hopefully comes home with some international talent forty great, so
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he couldn't make the show tonight. So Coach, you have
been now in Cincinnati, Ohio for five months, and you
mentioned the other day at practice, and we appreciate you
opening up practice. You're very generous with that. Watch a
lot of the practices this summer that is finally starting
to feel like home for.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You here since yeah, I mean that always takes time.
I mean last time we were here I don't think
I had my whole family here. I was still living
in a rental home. So we're pretty settled now. Kids
are in school, have been able to kind of get
out in the community, meet a lot of people, and
it's great. I mean, basketball, the profession's crazy. You move
a lot, and you really got to embrace it because
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I've been in so many cool spots and Cincinnati's been
great so far. The community has been amazing as well.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You finally got a break in August. What'd you do
with that because you were going, yeah, full speed.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Normally, Normally you try to take like those two weeks
in August to go somewhere as a family. This year
was a little different because daughter had volleyball, the movers
were coming and doing all that, so we stayed, which
I'm all for. The family vacations are too expensive. I
like to be in my own bed.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, you participated in some nice Cincinnati traditions already. You
threw the first pitch out of the Reds game. I
understand your son made a nice catch at home plate.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, you know, I was nervous about that. People always
say to you, don't bounce it. They like, you know,
they scare you. And then when they said, oh, your
son Jack can catch it, I was like, oh, that's
really cool. That'll take the pressure off of me. And
then when I went onto the field and I get
on the mound and I see this little eleven year old,
I'm like, oh, if I hate this kid in the head,
that'll be more viral than me throwing a bad pitch.
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But it worked out great. I was able to do
the sword to f C Cincinnati, so really cool. Just
to see all the different stadiums and I mean, it's
amazing all the opportunities here.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That was a game against Miami, if I remember correctly, Yeah,
what was that like walking out on that field. It's
a beautiful stadium.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Unbelievable stadium. You know, obviously soccer in our country is
a little bit new, and it's amazing what that organization
has been able to do to build a stadium like that.
It was first class all around.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I want to go back to the pitch that the Reds.
I understand Jack caught the ball popped out of his
glove and he was quick enough to grab of his
bear he did.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's a yeah. I was like, oh, man, all the
pressures on him right now if he doesn't do it,
but he did, did a great job. He should be
proud of. But I've heard about it, very proud. We
might have practiced a little bit in the driveway. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You've been a coach head coach for thirteen years, and
you're relatively young to have that many years in the profession.
You've already won two Coach of the Year awards, one
of the Big Ten, and then again last year you
won that award again. When did you decide that you
wanted to coach? Tell the story of how you actually
embraced the coaching profession and was everything else you were
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thinking of doing at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean I've always certainly grown up around basketball,
and you know, growing up, my dad was the head
coach Kentucky. So those were some amazing years. And then
when I started to kind of decide what I wanted
to do in life, that was when he was in Boston,
and you know, I always knew I wanted to be
around it. I didn't know if it was high school, college,
professional or whatever. I had always thought maybe a high
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school coach, and I would always work summer camps just
to kind of meet au coaches high school coaches and
so on, and I met a really good guy. But
then Mike Hart, he knew that I was going to
Providence College, and so well, why don't you be my
volunteer assistant coach at the high school level. So I
was a volunteer assistant for two years. Really got the
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bug then that I knew I wanted to get into coaching.
And you know, it's like anything else, you just meet
people along the way and you try to attach yourself
around winners. And was fortunate, whether it was Mike Hart
at Providence at St. Andrew's School offered me that. Then
Tim Welsh, who was the head coach of Providence College,
he offered me a student assistant spot, and then the
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ball just got rolling. So never would have envisioned any
of the jobs that I've had, head jobs, especially, I
never would have dreamed of any of them. You know,
sometimes you have in your mind maybe this job, maybe
that job. But lucky, I mean I went from FIU
and Miami one year, eight years, Minnesota four years, New Mexico,
and now certainly here. Very lucky.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
When Xavier College, you were you surprised to get a
phone call from the Musketeers because typically Xavier. Yeah, because
we know he's hired you know, an assistant or someone
that has been in the program for us.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah. I mean, I you know, humbly speaking, I had
a lot of schools reach out, and you know, we
had had a couple of really good years at New Mexico,
and I didn't know if I wanted to leave, honestly,
because Minnesota was a great experience, but it was up
and down. We had a good year, bad year, a
good year bad year, and you know, a lot of
that was on me, but a lot of that certainly
is on the job as well. You know, that's a
hard job. So I knew at New Mexico we had
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built something really, really good and I wasn't going to
leave for just anything. And when Xavier called, I did
not expect it because, like you said, I mean, they've
always kind of promoted within the family or whatever it
may be. But it's amazing when it feels right, it
feels right. And Greg Chris for our grade AD, flew
out to New Mexico and we had an amazing conversation.
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And you know, the job is important, but the people
that you work with are more important. And I think
Greg's vision of this and my vision. They're very much
in alignment. So surprised, yes, but very very excited.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You've been coaching for thirteen years. How have you changed
from your first year to what is now entering your
fourteenth season in your philosophy of coaching is not much
maybe a little bit dramatically, so you know, I.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Think it's more the philosophy of how you run a program,
the coaching part. I don't want to say it's easy,
because it's not easy, but it's how you organize a practice,
how you put together as staff. I would say year one,
when I started doing this, I was really trying to
prove myself. Not that I'm like some Hall of Fame
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coach by any means, but I would say, now, that's
not what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to
build the best program possible. I've been fortunate to go
to four NCAA tournaments, we won back to back championships
in New Mexico. Now it's about hiring the right people. Really.
I always say, it's tell them where we want to go,
and I get to tell them how to get there,
but then let them do their jobs. So I don't
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know if I would have done that. Maybe it's insecurity
to young age trying to prove yourself where I just
don't feel that as much anymore, and that would probably
be the biggest difference.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Obviously, your dad would a strong influence in how you
coach basketball. You've been around it. There's no question that
they hit a rub off on on you quite a bit.
But who else in the coaching tree you would point
to and say I learned a lot from him.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Well, ironically, tomorrow morning early, I was just on the
road recruit. In the last two days, I'm gonna fly
to Springfield, Massachusetts. Billy Donovan is getting inducted in the
Hall of Fame, and that changed my whole life, was
the decision to leave my dad and go work for
Billy Donovan for two years in Florida. Coach Donovan is
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a disciple of my dad, But what I was blown
away by when I went to work for him was
how different he was. Not to say one is better
than the other, but it just showed me like, hey,
you got to be yourself, don't don't try to emulate
any one person. And so Billy Donovan has been very impactful.
He was the reason I got Minnesota he was the
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reason I got in New Mexico and very very grateful
to have spent those two years with him as well. Coach.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
As you look into the season, Xavier really kind of
a unique situation. All twelve is avermen's basketball scholarship players
are newcomers this year.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
In other words, you have nobody back on a scholarship
and the one player that was here last year, Rodney Anderson,
he was rechered last year, didn't participate in any games.
You do have three walk ons back. You know, I've
never seen that before. You probably have never dealt with
that before. And you mentioned recruiting season has just started
right now, where you have a month to travel and
try to persuade I'm assuming junior college players and high
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school players, yeah, that you want to come to Xavier.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, I always you know, year one is hard. Now.
People think you can flip it quicker because of the
transfer portal, and you certainly can get a lot of
players in a short amount of time. But I would
just caution everybody to just understand that, you know, we're
trying to build a sustainable program, and normally when a
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coach leaves, the players all leave. That's just everywhere. I mean,
all my players in New Mexico left, they didn't return anybody.
So I think what we did in the spring was
try to identify. I mean, obviously the world has changed
through nil revshare and all that, and you got to
kind of try to stay within your budget and you
got to try to make it work. And very grateful
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for all the support that we have to be able
to do that. But you really don't know until you
have everybody in your program to what you need moving forward,
what you want to keep, what you want to add,
and so on. So I feel really good about the
core that we put together. The kind of the decision
that everybody's trying to make right now is do you
take any high school kids? And I've been talking to
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I was in four different gyms in two days and
just picking other coaches brains. I mean, it's it's I
still think you should recruit high school kids. It's a
matter of the investment that you make, you know, I mean,
it's nobody wants to hear it, but it's like pro
sports now, and you've got to decide kind of how
you want to allocate everything. And a lot of my
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best players, certainly in New Mexico. We're high school kids
who grew in the program, and I still certainly want
to do that, but with an understanding of we got
some guys in our program we want to keep as
well as in the spring, and there's some valuable players
that we can add as well.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You had mentioned last time we talked here at Serranos
about the number of percentage of players that entered the
transfer portals mentioned.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Do you think that will decline now? No, it'll be worse. Yeah, yeah,
until until there's buyouts. You know, see, people always make
the argument coaches can leave. I can promise you we
can't leave as much as people think, because when you
sign a contract, there's it's fair to both sides, and
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that's the way it should be. It should be fair
to Zaver, it should be fair to me. Right now,
it's it's really one sided, and it's all towards the player.
They shouldn't apologize. The players shouldn't because it's the greatest
deal they'll ever get in their lives. But they're allowed
to move on. So you know, you treat it year
to year while you try to build kind of a
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culture and with hopes of that, you're building a program
that you're gonna want to stay and be a part of.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
When you walk out onto the floor for your two
hours of practice. Is your attitude changed at all now
that you're playing coaching a bunch of professionals.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I'm meaner to them because they make a lot
of money. I'm like, screw you, guys. I'm not gonna
baby you. But no, I mean, I'm half kidding, but
I'm kind of serious. I mean it's people ask me
all the time, like, do you find it hard to
be hard on them? I'm like, no, I do not.
I find it way easier because you know, we're compensating
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them heavily. And I want them again, I don't want
them to apologize for it, but I want them to
really appreciate it and also understand the responsibility that goes
with it. There's people probably in here who give their
hard earned money to support Xavier and that's going to
those guys. So those guys have a responsibility off the
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court and the way that act in the classroom, in
the community, but also on the court as well.
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Coach Xavier plays an exhibition game at Sentai Center on
October eighteenth. That's only six weeks away, so this is
all going to happen rather quickly. But my question is
how did you arrive at Murray State, How was that
partnership made and why did you elect that you didn't
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have to play that in front of a crowd. But
was there a strategy behind that?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Well? I think if you can play in your building
to pull it off is good just from a Jitters standpoint, right,
I mean, obviously nobody's played in this building, you know,
So as much as you can simulate a real game,
even from the game day routine, that's always good. I
think moving forward, as we build the program, I would
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prefer probably one on the road as well. We're gonna
play a secret scrimmage that you had asked. I don't
even know if I'm allowed to mention who we're playing.
I talked too much already. Yeah, so don't tell anyone.
But I think ideally one on the road in one
home is good because you get both routines a little bit,
so it doesn't feel different. But I think it's it's
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exciting to kind of break up the monotony of everything,
because six weeks doesn't sound far for us, but for
the players, they're like, oh my god, six weeks, it's
gonna be long.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
N I l it's been a big deal, and we
talked back in June or whatever, and you're hoping certain
things might get to put into place. Tell us the
current status of the NIL, how that affects Xavier.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean, it's everything right now, you know, people, that's
the thing everybody asks about. I don't think once they
get here a whole lot has changed. But in order
to acquire players, in order to retain players, you need
a healthy NIL budget, and we're really really grateful for
the people that work so hard to contribute to that.
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You know, you always want more, the hard part, and
you know, Greg and I text all the time about
it is finding the truth, you know, I mean, you
want to be competitive in it. You don't have to
disclose how much you spend, so nobody really knows. So
you got to fact find as much as you possibly
can because you want to be competitive. You know, you
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want to be competitive in your league. I think for
the Big East not having football, I don't know if
it makes it easier, but it certainly is in its
own little way because you don't have to share those
funds with a huge football program.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What about the limit they put in if it was
a twenty one point five million, is.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
That twenty point five? Greg has promised me we'll have
twenty point five next year just for men's basketball. Nobody
else can have any of it. You know. The twenty
point five is certainly for football for those schools because
what you're looking at a lot is the percentages maybe
seventy five percent or whatever going to go to the
football program. So you know, I think we had always
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talked about the Big East having a competitive advantage, and
I still think we. Nobody really knows the way this
moving target is. I think the one thing that the
NC DOUBLEA got themselves in trouble for was limiting their
pay because they basically deemed that illegal. So we'll see.
I bet more lawsuits you know are going to happen.
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I just think for a Xavier it's take it year
to year, be as competitive as you possibly can. I
know that we have this amazing fan base that wants
Xavier to be great. We've got an amazing home court
of ten thousand people who have high expectations for us,
and you know, with that, you got to invest and
we're very, very grateful for what we have.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
When you go to recruit, you're looking at a high
school player. You're also going to recruit, say sophomores you
want to transfer, and you're certainly looking for graduate students
that want to transfer, even to one year player. I
know you've talked about trying to get a nice mix,
talk about the percentages of each that you'd like to get.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And when you'se got a.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
High school player, what do you look for in a
high school player is compared to say a graduate student
that's been playing at the collegiate levels. Because you're the
high school player you're trying to project.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, tough question. I would tell you the number one
thing we look for is who can we afford. That's
the biggest thing, as crazy as it sounds, is you
have to you have to figure out what they're looking for,
and you know, can you afford them? What? What? What?
What's important to them? And where you want to invest
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your money? You know, I mean, it's it's I think
guys with a bigger body of work are certainly a
little less of a risk. But I also believe, you know,
you have to have in your program young, hungry guys
who are willing to get better, and you know, so
you've got to put together team. You try to forecast it.
You know, I could tell you we had a championship
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year at New Mexico and when I had player meetings,
I had guys walk into my office who were not
in the portal and they already had offers to other schools.
So is that tampering. I don't know. They probably didn't
call it tampering. Well that is, you know, they probably
didn't call the kid. They probably told the high school
coach and said, hey, if so and so enters the portal,
this is what we can offer. So it's a gray area.
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I don't really get worked up about it. I think
more than anything, we have to be ready at all
times to have as good of a nil budget as
we can get, and then we've got to know as
many of these options as possible. It moves much faster
in the spring than it does in the fall. Fall.
You go out in the summer and you really really evaluate.
Then you bring and get kids on campus, and in
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the spring, this thing happens fast and you just got
to move.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Consider if all the money week, Well, I think you
have an advantage in your coaching staff. The style that
you play. I think it's well known. And when I
talk to the current Xavier players that practice now come
over and they're very engaging. They'll talk and I said, well,
what attracted you to Xavier? Almost to a man, aggressive play,
pace a play and just taking chances and really going
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after in the game. Yeah, and the tempo and a
lot of times when a coach gets a group together,
you got to him to buy your philosophy. Maybe it's
a slow way to play, or however you play, you've
already got that done in my opinion. So once you
kind of go over that hurdle, what's next with a
particular group you got in terms of making them efficient
on an offense? Just getting to know each other, chemistry, DNA,
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what is it?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
A little bit of everything. Yeah, I mean I think
we try to establish over the summer more than anything,
the tempo of which we're trying to play. It'll looks sloppy.
You know, you'll have turnovers, you'll have mistakes made, but
being able to play through that, you know, and being
able to understand where you're trying to go and the
triggers that were given them. I mean, if you watched
the NBA last year, the Indiana Pacers were very unique.
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You know, they really ran and they were very r
and you know, you're trying to take scouting out of it,
you know, I don't. And this isn't a knock. I mean,
there's some great programs that do this, but I really
try to get away from team scores on you everybody
looks over at the board and the coach is holding
it up and they're walking the ball to the court.
I just don't want to do that. I want there
to be a randomness to what we try to do.
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And then the defensive side of it, you know, just
a disruption part of it. So being you know, in
great shape is very very important. Being able to not
rely on me and the coaches to kind of control
the game is something we're certainly trying to do.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I've watched a lot of basketball practices over the last
forties something years. When your players hit the floor at
practice and I'm kind of curious how you're playing this.
It's like they start and they don't stop, maybe for
a drink or two, until it's done. I mean, it's fluid.
Even all your drills seem to.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Be full court.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
There's a lot of shots, there's a lot of picking rolls,
but there's a lot of five on five more five
on five that I'm used to seeing. Yeah, that's done
with a purpose. I'm assuming, why do you do that?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, I'm I mean, I think it's the best way
to teach.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
People ask me a lot, like what have you learned
from working for certain guys? My dad was a big
five on five guy. I tried to do a lot
of my teaching on film. Now we only have a
certain amount of time right now, so one September, twenty
second hits and we have more time, we will do
a lot of breakdown with film study from practice and
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show them. But I mean it is I've done a
million different ways to do it, whether it's two on two,
three on three, four and four five on five. Is
by far the best teacher more than anything I know.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
As Dante Jackson does a lot of the talking in
those drills, I'm kind of curious the system that was
run previous, is that similar to what you're doing now?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yeah? Yeah, he was. From what I was told, he
did a lot of the defensive side of it last year,
and I put him on the offensive side of it
because I really sorry, but I really respected the way
Coach Miller ran his offense. Don't boo and yell or anything,
but it's a lot of what we were trying to do,
and he had learned from Zag and so on, so
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I would pick his brain a lot on it. So
having Dante there to talk about kind of some of
the terminology I thought was really good. So the way
I broke it up was Dante and Tarvis Felton are
kind of looking at the offensive side of it. Danny
is kind of my underneath out of bound side, out
of bounce guy, and then Kareem Richardson and Isaac Chew
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look at the defensive side of it. So again it's
if they're confused, I'm not doing my job, you know.
And that's what I really really pride myself on is
you know, if you asked Dante and Tarvis what we're
trying to do offensively, they should know verbatim what I'm
trying to do. And then if you ask Kareem and
Isaac Chew what we're trying to do defensively, it should
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come from the top down. It's no different than a
football team. And that's really what I try to pride
myself in.
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Right in Norwood, Fool Bar, Happy hour daily and yes,
the pizza as good as they say it is. Coach,
I've been asking about your offense. We all know it's
fast paced and so forth, but would you describe for
us what you're looking for in Wich when your offense
is running?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Well, what you're seeing. I get a non reliance on me,
you know, I think the more I do it, people
kind of ask me, how do you evolve philosophically? It's that.
I mean, you know, can you play with pace? Can
you give them concepts? You know? Conversely, I don't want
the team on the other end looking down at me. Okay,
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he called fist, this is what they're gonna run like.
I want it to be random, so a lot of
my stuff will have multiple options in it, you know,
we want to be balanced. I mean I think, obviously,
what's the highest percentage shot? It's a dunk, So you know,
get to the rim as much as you can. The
next highest percentage shot would be a free throw. So
can you get to the foul line in the three
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point line? I mean, I I don't know if I'm
consumed with as much as everybody else is, but certainly
we want to have at least four guys on the
court that can knock it down. You know, I want
size and skill. That's when I when I'm going on
the road recruiting that guys that just under understand how
to play the game of basketball.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
All right, since Byron's not here and I can do this,
I want to talk about your roster. I want to
start with the post players. Yeah, I'm gonna start with
I'm gonna start with Anthony Robinson. By the way, Uh,
George Wilson is Anthony Robinson his grandson? You remember, the
great player for UC is an Olympian gold medalist and
a couple national champions to his credit. But Anthony Robinson
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an exceptional young.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Man in my opinion. But what a talent. Yeah, how
do you develop his talent? Yeah? You know, it's a
unique one because as you analyze the portal, you kind
of look at maybe there's a mid major player who
has a really good body of work, and we took
some of those as we'll go through there. And then
you got a guy like Anthony who we had known
out of high school. AU really loved his upside. For
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whatever the reason was, he goes to Virginia doesn't play
a lot. I don't know why. I mean, that doesn't
I've had a lot of my great players didn't play
a lot. They come to us, you know, So every
situation is different. But we're really lucky to have him,
you know, and his future is very, very bright. He's strong,
he's physical, he's got long arms, he can block shots.
You know, he can catch a lob. He can catch
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a role, you know, so we're gonna even play a
big role. You know. That's I think the good part
about knowing the league is you need physicality right there,
and he certainly provides that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And you also have a seven footer and pop Enji
played at UNLV last year. Yeah, I've watched him in
June and July. He's improved, in my opinion quite a
bit physically. Yeah, in a matter of two months.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, and again, I mean hopefully this doesn't happen often,
but he was a guy we missed on in recruiting,
and you know, That's why you don't curse the kid
out when he chooses another school, because you never know
when you're gonna recruit him again. So he we went
against him twice last year. I really liked him a lot. Uh,
phenomenal kid, and like you said, I mean, he just
gets better and better every time.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You have a seven footer freshman case in Westfall. Yeah,
what is your impression of him so far? I'm impressed by.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
That he's your favorite player because he's a true center,
and I know Joe likes that. But yeah, a high season.
Well he's just barely eighteen. Yeah, just turned eighteen, which
is crazy. You know, had a great contact who I
really trust out out West and I just thought he
was a guy that was really being overlooked. And another
one like if he just stays the court chorus and
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his patient, he's to be a really good player.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Just to follow up on the centers, you like your
centers to block shots, Yeah, nole central. Was that in
your defensive scheme?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, I guess that's what I've been told. Xavier hasn't
had for whatever the reason is, I don't know, but
absolutely love rim protection. You know, we want to pressure
the ball, make the ball uncomfortable, take away threes, and
make an absolute mess when the ball goes to the rim.
You know, I have a thing I'll make. I'll make
the team run the next day in a game if
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we ever give up a dunk versus set defense. And
that's where that rim protection comes in. And I think
all of them have the ability to block shots.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You like players that are interchangeable in terms of the position.
I look at your point guard position. You have the
ability this year to play as a big unit, tall
and range you or you can go smaller and you've
got a lot of options at point guards. Talk about
your point guard potential and who those players and what
the hell they.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Got to do. You know, Roddy is kind of a
natural point But what I try to do is look
at different lineups every single practice, you know, especially this
time of year, constantly tinkering with lineups and combinations and
so on. So Roddy was a point guard who's played
a bunch alright, has looked at the point as well
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as the two. I've even thrown Elite Messina in there
as well. You know, he's got good length. So they're
again the goal is for them to all be able
to play it and for all the positions to be interchangeable.
I think when we first started out in this profession,
everybody was consumed with position, and then they started to
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realize because they want to go to the NBA, well
my son has to play this in order to go
to the NBA. They're starting to realize a guy like
Lebron James will play five positions in the game. It
doesn't matter anymore. So as much as we can be positionless,
we try to do that. And I think you're looking
at that a bunch of those guys could play the
point of.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Neb Rodney Anderson. He impresses me as being very very fast.
Is it just am I correct in that? I mean
on the scale college basketball, he's gotta be one of
the quick, quicker, faster players out there.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, and defensively can be elite pressure in the basketball.
You know, he's in amazing shape, conditioning wise, and that's
because he puts in the work. He played for a
really good program out west in Boise State that won
a lot of games, and he had a lot to
do with that. So you know, there was a familiarity
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there that I don't know if he would have stayed
and I would have taken him if we both hadn't
gone against each other. So I think he saw the
way that we played in New Mexico. I saw the
way that he played at boise In. I'm very happy
that he stayed all.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Right, played in Mexico on the national team.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, well, yeah he did. I was able to watch
a little bit of an on stream. You know. It
worked out well. I'm happy he was able to do that.
He loves the game of basketball. He's an awesome kid.
He's got a great spirit about him and can really
score the basketball as well. He's put on a lot
of weight in the weight room as well.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
As part of Zavi University's annual Alumni Reunion weekend, the
xaviermen's basketball team will take the court for take the
court for a Blue White scrimmage on Friday, September twenty
sixth at the Senti Center. This free event marks the
first public appearance of the twenty twenty five twenty twenty
six Musketeers, offering fans an early look at the team
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ahead of their exhibition opener. Doors will open at five pm,
with a tip off set for six pm. Fans will
have a chance to meet the team during a postgame
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Show from Sorrento's located in the heart of Norwood on
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Family owned since nineteen fifty six, that's tradition. With Flavor
coach Messina Moore, we just barely touched on him. He's
impressive to me. I don't know how you feel watching him,
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watching off a lot of basketball players, but there's.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Something just.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Very innate about the way he plays. He's smooth, he
makes it look effortless at times. Just a great talent.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I think, yeah, I mean, that's exactly what he is.
It's size skill smooth. You know, it doesn't really get
out of control much. When you shoot it, you think
it's going in. And as we try to figure out
the new world that we're in, it's really knowing as
many of these players as you possibly can. And we
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played against him when I was at New Mexico two
years ago when he was on Pepperdine and so we
scouted him, competed against him, and really really liked him,
and you know, very very happy. He's been very impressive
so far.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
When you talk to players like Malik and you recruit them,
what does your storyline? I know they a and I
was allowed to do it, but you can present.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean NIL is very important, but that's definitely
not what we talk about the most. Now. You have
to have it, Like you're not gonna get players if
you don't have a competitive NIL. But we just talked
about his vision of where he fits in how we
think that he will flourish in our style of play.
You know, you talk about the tradition of Xavier and
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winning in the NCAA tournament and being in the Big
East and being able to play it Cinta Center and
play in front of an amazing fan base, so you know,
it's it's a field thing. You get them on campus.
You know, these guys look around at the facilities and
everything and they know like, Okay, I can become the
best version of myself, whether it's one year, two year,
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three years and a guy Mike Malik. You know, he's
got aspirations to you know, have a great year and
move on and play professionally, and hopefully we can help
them with that.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Gabriel Azzato transfer from Evansville, another very good talent. He's
injured with a knee. He'll be out inuntil what possibly January.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, I mean I don't know the exact timeline of it.
I would assume, you know, the first two months he
won't be available, had surgery. You know, we want to
get him fixed and write, you know, more than anything.
So that was a tough one. You know, I envisioned
him playing a lot. He was young. He had a
terrific freshman year, you know, so disappointing for him, disappointing
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for us because he was going to be a key part.
He's versatile, he's a fun player to watch. So we'll
get him back. He's just got to get healthy.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He's healthy. What position does he players? He seems to
be like he's one of those guys that you describe
as interchangeable.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, he's a two three. I think you know, he
can play the point. If we needed to, but I
think he's kind of your prototypical swing guy more than anything.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Trey Carroll Every's twelve points and five rebounds last year,
fifty two percent shooting from the field, forty percent from
three point range, seventy six percent from the free throw line.
A lot of good numbers and stats across the board.
Where does Trey Carroll fit in? He's one of your
main call to when I was here.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, you know, I've looked at him as a four
and of three, you know. I mean I've messed with
the lineup that's been very, very big, and I've liked it.
So he's skilled. I mean, you look at the percentages
that you said, screams efficiency, which is obviously very very important.
He can make the three, he can get to the
foul line, you know, and he's got experience at a
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good program. You know, when when you're looking at adding guys,
if you can get a player that has won, has
been in the NCAA tournament, he's been part of a
final four team, you know. I mean, those are huge,
huge things that we're trying to.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Build mere Panal. He is a injury also. When he
says about a week away, he is a phenomenal leaper.
He had a dunk back in July when I was watching. Yeah,
it was a windmill dunk. He started with the big
East logo would be at the bottom of it and
just seemed to rise forever. And he is only six
to two. Yeah, but what a post of talent when
he's healthy. Where does he fit into? What can he
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do for your boss?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, he's another guy. I mean he could play the one,
two or the three. Definitely our best jumper on the
team by far. I mean, he has some dynamic dunks.
So you know, he had a little surgery, has missed
a little bit of time. Fortunately it's not insanely serious
to where he's not going to miss a bunch of time,
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you know, but you you want to get him back
in the fold as best you can before these games start.
But I really like his length and he's not all
that tall, but he's got very long arms. How's he's
a shooter? You know? Good? I mean I don't know,
he's working on it more than anything. He lives in
the gym, and you know, I think the more he
reps it out his for him and everything.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
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Exhibition play at the Centa Center against Murray State on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
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Speaker 4 (35:05):
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
There's a Richard Patino Coach your Show from Sorrento's in Norwood.
It's not just a restaurants since any tradition. Sorrento's in
Norwood has been family owned since nineteen fifty six. Whether
it's Lasagna, Revola, or Canola to top it off, there's
something for everyone, full bar, happy hour in that unbeatable
old school charm. Isaiah Walker his dad played at Xavier
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back in the nineties and I'm impressed with his play
in his spirit.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, he's always in the right spot, you know, and
that's what you get with an older player. So whether
it's making the extra pass, knocking down the open shot,
he's got good length. And obviously anytime a guy you
know legacy, that's really cool to be a part of
as well.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
You have two players you're brought with you from New Mexico,
Jovann Malichovich and Philip moo Vichenen. And I find it
interesting how much I see him interacting with your say,
players that haven't played for you before. I actually was
watching Philip of the day direct a player around on
the floor. What's the advantage of that they've played for
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you before?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, I mean they had success, so certainly it helps
when the other players can say, hey, how is coach
to deal with? Or whatever it may be. Philip had
a great line to today. He said, the players are
asking how I am to play for and Philip said,
as long as you win, he's great, And I said, yeah, well,
I mean that's kind of the goal. So both of
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them have been really good this summer, you know, and
it just shows if you, I know, transferring and all that,
but if you can find a system that you really
like and to be a part of, you just get
better and better every year. And those two guys have coach.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I've watched you in practice, and I don't think I've
seen you yet really criticize the player for a shot
that's been taken.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, I don't think for them. That's what I always
is that right, you get offensive rebound it.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, because your pace of play last year was seventh
in the nation.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
I mean you played quickly.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
But I also noticed that you don't complain about the
shot selection very much. I haven't seen many bad shots.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
No, I mean I want to get the offense certainly.
I feel like you've got to go against a good
offense to become a good defense. We were I think
top twenty in the country last year defensively, so we
were really good defensively. But I'd say the focus right
now has been a lot more on the offensive side
of it. And I think as we really start to
practice more, you know, this time of year is hard.
You got recruiting, you've got booster stuff, you've got limited practice.
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We'll really really start to then fine tune the defensive
side of it. But I want the mentality for them
to not be scared to shoot, you know, I want
them to not look over at me and be fearful.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
You have some scores in essense. You have six players
that have averaged double figures during their lifetime at the
collegiate level, but they haven't been maybe the main score
on their team how can that affect the teamwork of
this ball club? To me, it seems like you'd have
a lot by nature unselfish players that are willing to
pass to the open mank.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, just try to get them to understand winning is
going to get them what they want, you know, And
certainly I've been lucky over the last couple of years
to win some championships, and with the championships, you get
these amazing opportunities to go with that, and we certainly
can draw from those. So you know, when you play
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the wrong way, it just makes you look bad. And
you know, taking some you know, bad shots, not making
the extra pass, body language, all those things we really
harp on because our goal is to certainly win and
win championships and go to the UNCLB tournament advance, but
our goal is to increase their value. I constantly talked
to them about that. If you're taking bad shots, you're
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not making the extra pass, all you're doing is hurting
yourself as well as the team.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Your coaching staff. You have two former head coaches on
your staff and also your assistant coach, coach Choo's been
with you for four or five years. A lot of
times You'll see a coach come into a program and
the coaching staff is new and they're kind of standing
around looking at each other. See how they respond to situations.
You have none of that. You guys are already very
fluent in my opinion on how you handle the practices.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yeah. I mean I brought a lot of the guys
from New Mexico. They deserved that, they were a big
part of winning, and complimented those guys more than anything.
So very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
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Welcome to the summer series Coach, a show with Richard Patino,
live from Sorrento's, located in the heart of Norwood. I'm
Joe Sunderman along with the head coach of the Xavier Musketeers,
Richard Patino. In the first order of business, I'd say
order the meatballs. They're wonderful here at Sorrento's. I would
do that first. But also Byron Larkin is traveling and
hopefully comes home with some international talent forty great, so
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he couldn't make the show tonight. So Coach, you have
been now in Cincinnati, Ohio for five months, and you
mentioned the other day at practice, and we appreciate you
opening up practice. You're very generous with that. Watch a
lot of the practices this summer that is finally starting
to feel like home for.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You here since yeah, I mean that always takes time.
I mean last time we were here I don't think
I had my whole family here. I was still living
in a rental home. So we're pretty settled now. Kids
are in school, have been able to kind of get
out in the community, meet a lot of people, and
it's great. I mean, basketball, the profession's crazy. You move
a lot, and you really got to embrace it because
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I've been in so many cool spots and Cincinnati's been
great so far. The community has been amazing as well.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You finally got a break in August. What'd you do
with that because you were going, yeah, full speed.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Normally, Normally you try to take like those two weeks
in August to go somewhere as a family. This year
was a little different because daughter had volleyball, the movers
were coming and doing all that, so we stayed, which
I'm all for. The family vacations are too expensive. I
like to be in my own bed.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, you participated in some nice Cincinnati traditions already. You
threw the first pitch out of the Reds game. I
understand your son made a nice catch at home plate.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, you know, I was nervous about that. People always
say to you, don't bounce it. They like, you know,
they scare you. And then when they said, oh, your
son Jack can catch it, I was like, oh, that's
really cool. That'll take the pressure off of me. And
then when I went onto the field and I get
on the mound and I see this little eleven year old,
I'm like, oh, if I hate this kid in the head,
that'll be more viral than me throwing a bad pitch.
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But it worked out great. I was able to do
the sword to f C Cincinnati, so really cool. Just
to see all the different stadiums and I mean, it's
amazing all the opportunities here.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That was a game against Miami, if I remember correctly, Yeah,
what was that like walking out on that field. It's
a beautiful stadium.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Unbelievable stadium. You know, obviously soccer in our country is
a little bit new, and it's amazing what that organization
has been able to do to build a stadium like that.
It was first class all around.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I want to go back to the pitch that the Reds.
I understand Jack caught the ball popped out of his
glove and he was quick enough to grab of his
bear he did.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's a yeah. I was like, oh, man, all the
pressures on him right now if he doesn't do it,
but he did, did a great job. He should be
proud of. But I've heard about it, very proud. We
might have practiced a little bit in the driveway. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You've been a coach head coach for thirteen years, and
you're relatively young to have that many years in the profession.
You've already won two Coach of the Year awards, one
of the Big Ten, and then again last year you
won that award again. When did you decide that you
wanted to coach? Tell the story of how you actually
embraced the coaching profession and was everything else you were
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thinking of doing at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean I've always certainly grown up around basketball,
and you know, growing up, my dad was the head
coach Kentucky. So those were some amazing years. And then
when I started to kind of decide what I wanted
to do in life, that was when he was in Boston,
and you know, I always knew I wanted to be
around it. I didn't know if it was high school, college,
professional or whatever. I had always thought maybe a high
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school coach, and I would always work summer camps just
to kind of meet au coaches high school coaches and
so on, and I met a really good guy. But
then Mike Hart, he knew that I was going to
Providence College, and so well, why don't you be my
volunteer assistant coach at the high school level. So I
was a volunteer assistant for two years. Really got the
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bug then that I knew I wanted to get into coaching.
And you know, it's like anything else, you just meet
people along the way and you try to attach yourself
around winners. And was fortunate, whether it was Mike Hart
at Providence at St. Andrew's School offered me that. Then
Tim Welsh, who was the head coach of Providence College,
he offered me a student assistant spot, and then the
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ball just got rolling. So never would have envisioned any
of the jobs that I've had, head jobs, especially, I
never would have dreamed of any of them. You know,
sometimes you have in your mind maybe this job, maybe
that job. But lucky, I mean I went from FIU
and Miami one year, eight years, Minnesota four years, New Mexico,
and now certainly here. Very lucky.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
When Xavier College, you were you surprised to get a
phone call from the Musketeers because typically Xavier. Yeah, because
we know he's hired you know, an assistant or someone
that has been in the program for us.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah. I mean, I you know, humbly speaking, I had
a lot of schools reach out, and you know, we
had had a couple of really good years at New Mexico,
and I didn't know if I wanted to leave, honestly,
because Minnesota was a great experience, but it was up
and down. We had a good year, bad year, a
good year bad year, and you know, a lot of
that was on me, but a lot of that certainly
is on the job as well. You know, that's a
hard job. So I knew at New Mexico we had
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built something really, really good and I wasn't going to
leave for just anything. And when Xavier called, I did
not expect it because, like you said, I mean, they've
always kind of promoted within the family or whatever it
may be. But it's amazing when it feels right, it
feels right. And Greg Chris for our grade AD, flew
out to New Mexico and we had an amazing conversation.
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And you know, the job is important, but the people
that you work with are more important. And I think
Greg's vision of this and my vision. They're very much
in alignment. So surprised, yes, but very very excited.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You've been coaching for thirteen years. How have you changed
from your first year to what is now entering your
fourteenth season in your philosophy of coaching is not much
maybe a little bit dramatically, so you know, I.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Think it's more the philosophy of how you run a program,
the coaching part. I don't want to say it's easy,
because it's not easy, but it's how you organize a practice,
how you put together as staff. I would say year one,
when I started doing this, I was really trying to
prove myself. Not that I'm like some Hall of Fame
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coach by any means, but I would say, now, that's
not what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to
build the best program possible. I've been fortunate to go
to four NCAA tournaments, we won back to back championships
in New Mexico. Now it's about hiring the right people. Really.
I always say, it's tell them where we want to go,
and I get to tell them how to get there,
but then let them do their jobs. So I don't
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know if I would have done that. Maybe it's insecurity
to young age trying to prove yourself where I just
don't feel that as much anymore, and that would probably
be the biggest difference.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Obviously, your dad would a strong influence in how you
coach basketball. You've been around it. There's no question that
they hit a rub off on on you quite a bit.
But who else in the coaching tree you would point
to and say I learned a lot from him.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Well, ironically, tomorrow morning early, I was just on the
road recruit. In the last two days, I'm gonna fly
to Springfield, Massachusetts. Billy Donovan is getting inducted in the
Hall of Fame, and that changed my whole life, was
the decision to leave my dad and go work for
Billy Donovan for two years in Florida. Coach Donovan is
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a disciple of my dad, But what I was blown
away by when I went to work for him was
how different he was. Not to say one is better
than the other, but it just showed me like, hey,
you got to be yourself, don't don't try to emulate
any one person. And so Billy Donovan has been very impactful.
He was the reason I got Minnesota he was the
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reason I got in New Mexico and very very grateful
to have spent those two years with him as well. Coach.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
As you look into the season, Xavier really kind of
a unique situation. All twelve is avermen's basketball scholarship players
are newcomers this year.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
In other words, you have nobody back on a scholarship
and the one player that was here last year, Rodney Anderson,
he was rechered last year, didn't participate in any games.
You do have three walk ons back. You know, I've
never seen that before. You probably have never dealt with
that before. And you mentioned recruiting season has just started
right now, where you have a month to travel and
try to persuade I'm assuming junior college players and high
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school players, yeah, that you want to come to Xavier.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, I always you know, year one is hard. Now.
People think you can flip it quicker because of the
transfer portal, and you certainly can get a lot of
players in a short amount of time. But I would
just caution everybody to just understand that, you know, we're
trying to build a sustainable program, and normally when a
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coach leaves, the players all leave. That's just everywhere. I mean,
all my players in New Mexico left, they didn't return anybody.
So I think what we did in the spring was
try to identify. I mean, obviously the world has changed
through nil revshare and all that, and you got to
kind of try to stay within your budget and you
got to try to make it work. And very grateful
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for all the support that we have to be able
to do that. But you really don't know until you
have everybody in your program to what you need moving forward,
what you want to keep, what you want to add,
and so on. So I feel really good about the
core that we put together. The kind of the decision
that everybody's trying to make right now is do you
take any high school kids? And I've been talking to
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I was in four different gyms in two days and
just picking other coaches brains. I mean, it's it's I
still think you should recruit high school kids. It's a
matter of the investment that you make, you know, I mean,
it's nobody wants to hear it, but it's like pro
sports now, and you've got to decide kind of how
you want to allocate everything. And a lot of my
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best players, certainly in New Mexico. We're high school kids
who grew in the program, and I still certainly want
to do that, but with an understanding of we got
some guys in our program we want to keep as
well as in the spring, and there's some valuable players
that we can add as well.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You had mentioned last time we talked here at Serranos
about the number of percentage of players that entered the
transfer portals mentioned.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Do you think that will decline now? No, it'll be worse. Yeah, yeah,
until until there's buyouts. You know, see, people always make
the argument coaches can leave. I can promise you we
can't leave as much as people think, because when you
sign a contract, there's it's fair to both sides, and
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that's the way it should be. It should be fair
to Zaver, it should be fair to me. Right now,
it's it's really one sided, and it's all towards the player.
They shouldn't apologize. The players shouldn't because it's the greatest
deal they'll ever get in their lives. But they're allowed
to move on. So you know, you treat it year
to year while you try to build kind of a
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culture and with hopes of that, you're building a program
that you're gonna want to stay and be a part of.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
When you walk out onto the floor for your two
hours of practice. Is your attitude changed at all now
that you're playing coaching a bunch of professionals.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I'm meaner to them because they make a lot
of money. I'm like, screw you, guys. I'm not gonna
baby you. But no, I mean, I'm half kidding, but
I'm kind of serious. I mean it's people ask me
all the time, like, do you find it hard to
be hard on them? I'm like, no, I do not.
I find it way easier because you know, we're compensating
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them heavily. And I want them again, I don't want
them to apologize for it, but I want them to
really appreciate it and also understand the responsibility that goes
with it. There's people probably in here who give their
hard earned money to support Xavier and that's going to
those guys. So those guys have a responsibility off the
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court and the way that act in the classroom, in
the community, but also on the court as well.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
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Coach Xavier plays an exhibition game at Sentai Center on
October eighteenth. That's only six weeks away, so this is
all going to happen rather quickly. But my question is
how did you arrive at Murray State, How was that
partnership made and why did you elect that you didn't
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have to play that in front of a crowd. But
was there a strategy behind that?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Well? I think if you can play in your building
to pull it off is good just from a Jitters standpoint, right,
I mean, obviously nobody's played in this building, you know,
So as much as you can simulate a real game,
even from the game day routine, that's always good. I
think moving forward, as we build the program, I would
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prefer probably one on the road as well. We're gonna
play a secret scrimmage that you had asked. I don't
even know if I'm allowed to mention who we're playing.
I talked too much already. Yeah, so don't tell anyone.
But I think ideally one on the road in one
home is good because you get both routines a little bit,
so it doesn't feel different. But I think it's it's
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exciting to kind of break up the monotony of everything,
because six weeks doesn't sound far for us, but for
the players, they're like, oh my god, six weeks, it's
gonna be long.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
N I l it's been a big deal, and we
talked back in June or whatever, and you're hoping certain
things might get to put into place. Tell us the
current status of the NIL, how that affects Xavier.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean, it's everything right now, you know, people, that's
the thing everybody asks about. I don't think once they
get here a whole lot has changed. But in order
to acquire players, in order to retain players, you need
a healthy NIL budget, and we're really really grateful for
the people that work so hard to contribute to that.
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You know, you always want more, the hard part, and
you know, Greg and I text all the time about
it is finding the truth, you know, I mean, you
want to be competitive in it. You don't have to
disclose how much you spend, so nobody really knows. So
you got to fact find as much as you possibly
can because you want to be competitive. You know, you
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want to be competitive in your league. I think for
the Big East not having football, I don't know if
it makes it easier, but it certainly is in its
own little way because you don't have to share those
funds with a huge football program.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What about the limit they put in if it was
a twenty one point five million, is.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
That twenty point five? Greg has promised me we'll have
twenty point five next year just for men's basketball. Nobody
else can have any of it. You know. The twenty
point five is certainly for football for those schools because
what you're looking at a lot is the percentages maybe
seventy five percent or whatever going to go to the
football program. So you know, I think we had always
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talked about the Big East having a competitive advantage, and
I still think we. Nobody really knows the way this
moving target is. I think the one thing that the
NC DOUBLEA got themselves in trouble for was limiting their
pay because they basically deemed that illegal. So we'll see.
I bet more lawsuits you know are going to happen.
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I just think for a Xavier it's take it year
to year, be as competitive as you possibly can. I
know that we have this amazing fan base that wants
Xavier to be great. We've got an amazing home court
of ten thousand people who have high expectations for us,
and you know, with that, you got to invest and
we're very, very grateful for what we have.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
When you go to recruit, you're looking at a high
school player. You're also going to recruit, say sophomores you
want to transfer, and you're certainly looking for graduate students
that want to transfer, even to one year player. I
know you've talked about trying to get a nice mix,
talk about the percentages of each that you'd like to get.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And when you'se got a.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
High school player, what do you look for in a
high school player is compared to say a graduate student
that's been playing at the collegiate levels. Because you're the
high school player you're trying to project.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, tough question. I would tell you the number one
thing we look for is who can we afford. That's
the biggest thing, as crazy as it sounds, is you
have to you have to figure out what they're looking for,
and you know, can you afford them? What? What? What?
What's important to them? And where you want to invest
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your money? You know, I mean, it's it's I think
guys with a bigger body of work are certainly a
little less of a risk. But I also believe, you know,
you have to have in your program young, hungry guys
who are willing to get better, and you know, so
you've got to put together team. You try to forecast it.
You know, I could tell you we had a championship
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year at New Mexico and when I had player meetings,
I had guys walk into my office who were not
in the portal and they already had offers to other schools.
So is that tampering. I don't know. They probably didn't
call it tampering. Well that is, you know, they probably
didn't call the kid. They probably told the high school
coach and said, hey, if so and so enters the portal,
this is what we can offer. So it's a gray area.
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I don't really get worked up about it. I think
more than anything, we have to be ready at all
times to have as good of a nil budget as
we can get, and then we've got to know as
many of these options as possible. It moves much faster
in the spring than it does in the fall. Fall.
You go out in the summer and you really really evaluate.
Then you bring and get kids on campus, and in
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the spring, this thing happens fast and you just got
to move.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Consider if all the money week, Well, I think you
have an advantage in your coaching staff. The style that
you play. I think it's well known. And when I
talk to the current Xavier players that practice now come
over and they're very engaging. They'll talk and I said, well,
what attracted you to Xavier? Almost to a man, aggressive play,
pace a play and just taking chances and really going
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after in the game. Yeah, and the tempo and a
lot of times when a coach gets a group together,
you got to him to buy your philosophy. Maybe it's
a slow way to play, or however you play, you've
already got that done in my opinion. So once you
kind of go over that hurdle, what's next with a
particular group you got in terms of making them efficient
on an offense? Just getting to know each other, chemistry, DNA,
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what is it?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
A little bit of everything. Yeah, I mean I think
we try to establish over the summer more than anything,
the tempo of which we're trying to play. It'll looks sloppy.
You know, you'll have turnovers, you'll have mistakes made, but
being able to play through that, you know, and being
able to understand where you're trying to go and the
triggers that were given them. I mean, if you watched
the NBA last year, the Indiana Pacers were very unique.
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You know, they really ran and they were very r
and you know, you're trying to take scouting out of it,
you know, I don't. And this isn't a knock. I mean,
there's some great programs that do this, but I really
try to get away from team scores on you everybody
looks over at the board and the coach is holding
it up and they're walking the ball to the court.
I just don't want to do that. I want there
to be a randomness to what we try to do.
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And then the defensive side of it, you know, just
a disruption part of it. So being you know, in
great shape is very very important. Being able to not
rely on me and the coaches to kind of control
the game is something we're certainly trying to do.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I've watched a lot of basketball practices over the last
forties something years. When your players hit the floor at
practice and I'm kind of curious how you're playing this.
It's like they start and they don't stop, maybe for
a drink or two, until it's done. I mean, it's fluid.
Even all your drills seem to.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Be full court.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
There's a lot of shots, there's a lot of picking rolls,
but there's a lot of five on five more five
on five that I'm used to seeing. Yeah, that's done
with a purpose. I'm assuming, why do you do that?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, I'm I mean, I think it's the best way
to teach.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
People ask me a lot, like what have you learned
from working for certain guys? My dad was a big
five on five guy. I tried to do a lot
of my teaching on film. Now we only have a
certain amount of time right now, so one September, twenty
second hits and we have more time, we will do
a lot of breakdown with film study from practice and
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show them. But I mean it is I've done a
million different ways to do it, whether it's two on two,
three on three, four and four five on five. Is
by far the best teacher more than anything I know.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
As Dante Jackson does a lot of the talking in
those drills, I'm kind of curious the system that was
run previous, is that similar to what you're doing now?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yeah? Yeah, he was. From what I was told, he
did a lot of the defensive side of it last year,
and I put him on the offensive side of it
because I really sorry, but I really respected the way
Coach Miller ran his offense. Don't boo and yell or anything,
but it's a lot of what we were trying to do,
and he had learned from Zag and so on, so
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I would pick his brain a lot on it. So
having Dante there to talk about kind of some of
the terminology I thought was really good. So the way
I broke it up was Dante and Tarvis Felton are
kind of looking at the offensive side of it. Danny
is kind of my underneath out of bound side, out
of bounce guy, and then Kareem Richardson and Isaac Chew
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look at the defensive side of it. So again it's
if they're confused, I'm not doing my job, you know.
And that's what I really really pride myself on is
you know, if you asked Dante and Tarvis what we're
trying to do offensively, they should know verbatim what I'm
trying to do. And then if you ask Kareem and
Isaac Chew what we're trying to do defensively, it should
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come from the top down. It's no different than a
football team. And that's really what I try to pride
myself in.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
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Right in Norwood, Fool Bar, Happy hour daily and yes,
the pizza as good as they say it is. Coach,
I've been asking about your offense. We all know it's
fast paced and so forth, but would you describe for
us what you're looking for in Wich when your offense
is running?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Well, what you're seeing. I get a non reliance on me,
you know, I think the more I do it, people
kind of ask me, how do you evolve philosophically? It's that.
I mean, you know, can you play with pace? Can
you give them concepts? You know? Conversely, I don't want
the team on the other end looking down at me. Okay,
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he called fist, this is what they're gonna run like.
I want it to be random, so a lot of
my stuff will have multiple options in it, you know,
we want to be balanced. I mean I think, obviously,
what's the highest percentage shot? It's a dunk, So you know,
get to the rim as much as you can. The
next highest percentage shot would be a free throw. So
can you get to the foul line in the three
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point line? I mean, I I don't know if I'm
consumed with as much as everybody else is, but certainly
we want to have at least four guys on the
court that can knock it down. You know, I want
size and skill. That's when I when I'm going on
the road recruiting that guys that just under understand how
to play the game of basketball.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
All right, since Byron's not here and I can do this,
I want to talk about your roster. I want to
start with the post players. Yeah, I'm gonna start with
I'm gonna start with Anthony Robinson. By the way, Uh,
George Wilson is Anthony Robinson his grandson? You remember, the
great player for UC is an Olympian gold medalist and
a couple national champions to his credit. But Anthony Robinson
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an exceptional young.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Man in my opinion. But what a talent. Yeah, how
do you develop his talent? Yeah? You know, it's a
unique one because as you analyze the portal, you kind
of look at maybe there's a mid major player who
has a really good body of work, and we took
some of those as we'll go through there. And then
you got a guy like Anthony who we had known
out of high school. AU really loved his upside. For
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whatever the reason was, he goes to Virginia doesn't play
a lot. I don't know why. I mean, that doesn't
I've had a lot of my great players didn't play
a lot. They come to us, you know, So every
situation is different. But we're really lucky to have him,
you know, and his future is very, very bright. He's strong,
he's physical, he's got long arms, he can block shots.
You know, he can catch a lob. He can catch
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a role, you know, so we're gonna even play a
big role. You know. That's I think the good part
about knowing the league is you need physicality right there,
and he certainly provides that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And you also have a seven footer and pop Enji
played at UNLV last year. Yeah, I've watched him in
June and July. He's improved, in my opinion quite a
bit physically. Yeah, in a matter of two months.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, and again, I mean hopefully this doesn't happen often,
but he was a guy we missed on in recruiting,
and you know, That's why you don't curse the kid
out when he chooses another school, because you never know
when you're gonna recruit him again. So he we went
against him twice last year. I really liked him a lot. Uh,
phenomenal kid, and like you said, I mean, he just
gets better and better every time.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You have a seven footer freshman case in Westfall. Yeah,
what is your impression of him so far? I'm impressed by.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
That he's your favorite player because he's a true center,
and I know Joe likes that. But yeah, a high season.
Well he's just barely eighteen. Yeah, just turned eighteen, which
is crazy. You know, had a great contact who I
really trust out out West and I just thought he
was a guy that was really being overlooked. And another
one like if he just stays the court chorus and
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his patient, he's to be a really good player.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Just to follow up on the centers, you like your
centers to block shots, Yeah, nole central. Was that in
your defensive scheme?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, I guess that's what I've been told. Xavier hasn't
had for whatever the reason is, I don't know, but
absolutely love rim protection. You know, we want to pressure
the ball, make the ball uncomfortable, take away threes, and
make an absolute mess when the ball goes to the rim.
You know, I have a thing I'll make. I'll make
the team run the next day in a game if
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we ever give up a dunk versus set defense. And
that's where that rim protection comes in. And I think
all of them have the ability to block shots.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You like players that are interchangeable in terms of the position.
I look at your point guard position. You have the
ability this year to play as a big unit, tall
and range you or you can go smaller and you've
got a lot of options at point guards. Talk about
your point guard potential and who those players and what
the hell they.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Got to do. You know, Roddy is kind of a
natural point But what I try to do is look
at different lineups every single practice, you know, especially this
time of year, constantly tinkering with lineups and combinations and
so on. So Roddy was a point guard who's played
a bunch alright, has looked at the point as well
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as the two. I've even thrown Elite Messina in there
as well. You know, he's got good length. So they're
again the goal is for them to all be able
to play it and for all the positions to be interchangeable.
I think when we first started out in this profession,
everybody was consumed with position, and then they started to
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realize because they want to go to the NBA, well
my son has to play this in order to go
to the NBA. They're starting to realize a guy like
Lebron James will play five positions in the game. It
doesn't matter anymore. So as much as we can be positionless,
we try to do that. And I think you're looking
at that a bunch of those guys could play the
point of.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Neb Rodney Anderson. He impresses me as being very very fast.
Is it just am I correct in that? I mean
on the scale college basketball, he's gotta be one of
the quick, quicker, faster players out there.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, and defensively can be elite pressure in the basketball.
You know, he's in amazing shape, conditioning wise, and that's
because he puts in the work. He played for a
really good program out west in Boise State that won
a lot of games, and he had a lot to
do with that. So you know, there was a familiarity
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there that I don't know if he would have stayed
and I would have taken him if we both hadn't
gone against each other. So I think he saw the
way that we played in New Mexico. I saw the
way that he played at boise In. I'm very happy
that he stayed all.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Right, played in Mexico on the national team.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, well, yeah he did. I was able to watch
a little bit of an on stream. You know. It
worked out well. I'm happy he was able to do that.
He loves the game of basketball. He's an awesome kid.
He's got a great spirit about him and can really
score the basketball as well. He's put on a lot
of weight in the weight room as well.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
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watching off a lot of basketball players, but there's.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Something just.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Very innate about the way he plays. He's smooth, he
makes it look effortless at times. Just a great talent.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I think, yeah, I mean, that's exactly what he is.
It's size skill smooth. You know, it doesn't really get
out of control much. When you shoot it, you think
it's going in. And as we try to figure out
the new world that we're in, it's really knowing as
many of these players as you possibly can. And we
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played against him when I was at New Mexico two
years ago when he was on Pepperdine and so we
scouted him, competed against him, and really really liked him,
and you know, very very happy. He's been very impressive
so far.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
When you talk to players like Malik and you recruit them,
what does your storyline? I know they a and I
was allowed to do it, but you can present.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean NIL is very important, but that's definitely
not what we talk about the most. Now. You have
to have it, Like you're not gonna get players if
you don't have a competitive NIL. But we just talked
about his vision of where he fits in how we
think that he will flourish in our style of play.
You know, you talk about the tradition of Xavier and
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winning in the NCAA tournament and being in the Big
East and being able to play it Cinta Center and
play in front of an amazing fan base, so you know,
it's it's a field thing. You get them on campus.
You know, these guys look around at the facilities and
everything and they know like, Okay, I can become the
best version of myself, whether it's one year, two year,
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three years and a guy Mike Malik. You know, he's
got aspirations to you know, have a great year and
move on and play professionally, and hopefully we can help
them with that.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Gabriel Azzato transfer from Evansville, another very good talent. He's
injured with a knee. He'll be out inuntil what possibly January.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, I mean I don't know the exact timeline of it.
I would assume, you know, the first two months he
won't be available, had surgery. You know, we want to
get him fixed and write, you know, more than anything.
So that was a tough one. You know, I envisioned
him playing a lot. He was young. He had a
terrific freshman year, you know, so disappointing for him, disappointing
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for us because he was going to be a key part.
He's versatile, he's a fun player to watch. So we'll
get him back. He's just got to get healthy.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He's healthy. What position does he players? He seems to
be like he's one of those guys that you describe
as interchangeable.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, he's a two three. I think you know, he
can play the point. If we needed to, but I
think he's kind of your prototypical swing guy more than anything.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Trey Carroll Every's twelve points and five rebounds last year,
fifty two percent shooting from the field, forty percent from
three point range, seventy six percent from the free throw line.
A lot of good numbers and stats across the board.
Where does Trey Carroll fit in? He's one of your
main call to when I was here.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, you know, I've looked at him as a four
and of three, you know. I mean I've messed with
the lineup that's been very, very big, and I've liked it.
So he's skilled. I mean, you look at the percentages
that you said, screams efficiency, which is obviously very very important.
He can make the three, he can get to the
foul line, you know, and he's got experience at a
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good program. You know, when when you're looking at adding guys,
if you can get a player that has won, has
been in the NCAA tournament, he's been part of a
final four team, you know. I mean, those are huge,
huge things that we're trying to.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Build mere Panal. He is a injury also. When he
says about a week away, he is a phenomenal leaper.
He had a dunk back in July when I was watching. Yeah,
it was a windmill dunk. He started with the big
East logo would be at the bottom of it and
just seemed to rise forever. And he is only six
to two. Yeah, but what a post of talent when
he's healthy. Where does he fit into? What can he
(34:02):
do for your boss?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, he's another guy. I mean he could play the one,
two or the three. Definitely our best jumper on the
team by far. I mean, he has some dynamic dunks.
So you know, he had a little surgery, has missed
a little bit of time. Fortunately it's not insanely serious
to where he's not going to miss a bunch of time,
(34:23):
you know, but you you want to get him back
in the fold as best you can before these games start.
But I really like his length and he's not all
that tall, but he's got very long arms. How's he's
a shooter? You know? Good? I mean I don't know,
he's working on it more than anything. He lives in
the gym, and you know, I think the more he
reps it out his for him and everything.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
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Speaker 4 (34:49):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
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the Richard Patino Coaches Show for Sorrento's in Norwood on
fifty five KRC and the Varsity Network.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
There's a Richard Patino Coach your Show from Sorrento's in Norwood.
It's not just a restaurants since any tradition. Sorrento's in
Norwood has been family owned since nineteen fifty six. Whether
it's Lasagna, Revola, or Canola to top it off, there's
something for everyone, full bar, happy hour in that unbeatable
old school charm. Isaiah Walker his dad played at Xavier
(35:28):
back in the nineties and I'm impressed with his play
in his spirit.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, he's always in the right spot, you know, and
that's what you get with an older player. So whether
it's making the extra pass, knocking down the open shot,
he's got good length. And obviously anytime a guy you
know legacy, that's really cool to be a part of
as well.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
You have two players you're brought with you from New Mexico,
Jovann Malichovich and Philip moo Vichenen. And I find it
interesting how much I see him interacting with your say,
players that haven't played for you before. I actually was
watching Philip of the day direct a player around on
the floor. What's the advantage of that they've played for
(36:10):
you before?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, I mean they had success, so certainly it helps
when the other players can say, hey, how is coach
to deal with? Or whatever it may be. Philip had
a great line to today. He said, the players are
asking how I am to play for and Philip said,
as long as you win, he's great, And I said, yeah, well,
I mean that's kind of the goal. So both of
(36:30):
them have been really good this summer, you know, and
it just shows if you, I know, transferring and all that,
but if you can find a system that you really
like and to be a part of, you just get
better and better every year. And those two guys have coach.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I've watched you in practice, and I don't think I've
seen you yet really criticize the player for a shot
that's been taken.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, I don't think for them. That's what I always
is that right, you get offensive rebound it.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, because your pace of play last year was seventh
in the nation.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
I mean you played quickly.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
But I also noticed that you don't complain about the
shot selection very much. I haven't seen many bad shots.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
No, I mean I want to get the offense certainly.
I feel like you've got to go against a good
offense to become a good defense. We were I think
top twenty in the country last year defensively, so we
were really good defensively. But I'd say the focus right
now has been a lot more on the offensive side
of it. And I think as we really start to
practice more, you know, this time of year is hard.
You got recruiting, you've got booster stuff, you've got limited practice.
(37:29):
We'll really really start to then fine tune the defensive
side of it. But I want the mentality for them
to not be scared to shoot, you know, I want
them to not look over at me and be fearful.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
You have some scores in essense. You have six players
that have averaged double figures during their lifetime at the
collegiate level, but they haven't been maybe the main score
on their team how can that affect the teamwork of
this ball club? To me, it seems like you'd have
a lot by nature unselfish players that are willing to
pass to the open mank.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, just try to get them to understand winning is
going to get them what they want, you know, And
certainly I've been lucky over the last couple of years
to win some championships, and with the championships, you get
these amazing opportunities to go with that, and we certainly
can draw from those. So you know, when you play
(38:21):
the wrong way, it just makes you look bad. And
you know, taking some you know, bad shots, not making
the extra pass, body language, all those things we really
harp on because our goal is to certainly win and
win championships and go to the UNCLB tournament advance, but
our goal is to increase their value. I constantly talked
to them about that. If you're taking bad shots, you're
(38:42):
not making the extra pass, all you're doing is hurting
yourself as well as the team.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Your coaching staff. You have two former head coaches on
your staff and also your assistant coach, coach Choo's been
with you for four or five years. A lot of
times You'll see a coach come into a program and
the coaching staff is new and they're kind of standing
around looking at each other. See how they respond to situations.
You have none of that. You guys are already very
fluent in my opinion on how you handle the practices.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yeah. I mean I brought a lot of the guys
from New Mexico. They deserved that, they were a big
part of winning, and complimented those guys more than anything.
So very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I like to thank everybody for joining us here at
Sorrento's a capacity crowd. You have been great. Thanks for
joining us tonight. And this has been the Richard Patino
Show from Sorrentos and Norwood on fifty five KRC and
the Varsity Network.
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