Are the Marlins Contenders or Pretenders?

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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Good inning. Everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to our edition of her name such as Baseball Talk.
My name is Scott Morgan Robb have a full house
tonight and a new guy in the process. New to
you guy, but not new to me. His name is
Rob b Rosca Rob. Why don't you get everybody an
introdustion about where you're at?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I'm in New York.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
How you doing, guys and candy. I'm co host of
ny MLB Talk. It's a basically a Mets Yankee show.
I'm the Mets guy, but we cover everything all at MLB.
Plus we do other crazy things on the show, like
have different guests. We had magicians on a couple of
weeks ago. You know, we we mix it up, and

(01:10):
you know, so far we're getting pretty big, which is
which is great, and you know, I appreciate it. Scott,
welcome having me on. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, you're gonna be on this show plenty of it.
I know you're a Mets guy. I have a Mets
manager on here, So get rested. Are cyberusky? Glad you're
in here? So we have a lot to get to.
Let me introduce the rest of the crew. We have
Candy on here, and obviously, well you have to think
it's gonna We.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Appreciate that we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Actually that's actually a topic which city should be the
next MLB team. So I'm glad to have Candy on.
We're going to have you on as well, Willie. We
have Trent Clark, Welcome back, Trent. Well, and we have
the Cancy Man.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Good to be back, Scott, and we have.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
The Skipper A great stuff. Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
With that said, you know, I want to get a
couple of things. I want to get you right away,
and that's this.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
First of all, Jos Alvarado was who was suspended eighty
gains the out pay after testing positive for the generous
testa testa ron is whatever test rana actually set to
return in about two weeks. You think you'll be a
viable weapon down the stretch, Scalp Skip, All right, well,

(02:38):
well we'll come back to him.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Eric, absolutely, I mean more more than what's that?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Skip?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I think?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah? I can hear you?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Now, Okay, you know.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
Marrier right, I think that he's proven he's a pretty
good arm in the past, and it really comes down
to how he's been preparing to come off his suspension.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
So he's about two weeks out, so I imagine, like
anything else, he had a really great trade deadline adding
a closer, Johan Duran. But this guy here, I hear
was a pretty lethal picture before obviously trouble creeped up
on him.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Do you want to add to that.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean he was right.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
I got to see him pitch live quite a few
times and he was really nasty. I guess the question
is was it a byproduct of some of the things
he was doing or was it really natural? And then
he just got caught up in the wrong situation. So
I think time will tell. But either way, I think
it's a good option for a team to have. And
late in the season I'm gonna turn over to Eric.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
I mean, you need arms at this point in the season.
The more healthier arms you have, the better, because because
these days bullpen bullpens are getting burned or getting burned
like forest up in Canada, and it's going to it's
something that you're going to it's something that you need.
I mean, Jose Alvarado, he's a hard thrower. I mean,
the Phillies are gonna need this guy down the stretch,

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especially to give someone like Duran maybe a breather, and
because Alvarado does have some closing experience, and you know
they're gonna need him because they're obviously because obviously Alvarado
won't be eligible for the postseason, and so that's where
Duran comes in. But you know, if you can get
Alvarado out there now to maybe to maybe get take
some of the innings away from guys like Duran or Orioka,

(04:45):
Kerring or or who or whomever else, you know, that'll
put the Phillies in great shape.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, turnover Rob, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Listen, he's a fresh arm. He was throwing great before
he got suspended. And listen, he's the reason why the
Phillies probably have Duran, right, So that's another weapon that
they have. So by subtraction, the Phillies actually get Duran.
And that trade might not have happened if Alvarado didn't

(05:17):
get suspended. So he's a fresh arm, and I think
that's a great thing, Candy.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
Any time you get a fresh arm this late in
the season, that's a good picture. I mean, it can
only bolster what they already have. So kudos to them.
Watch out.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Clarky got final word.

Speaker 9 (05:43):
Yeah, I think it's back too. Is the extracurricular activity
tied to his confidence?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Right?

Speaker 9 (05:49):
If he comes in and starts giving up the house
and having challenges to get people out, that's not gonna
help things. He's got to come out be ready to go.
As kind of Mickey talked about, like how well he's
done in his time off to come in and hit
the ground run. He should be a fresh arm. A
lot of it's about recovery, and with such a short
season left for an arm coming in, he should be great.

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So as long as he's going in and getting people out,
it's going to be a huge left for things.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, I think this is as good as a trade
deadline deal. I like the timing of it for sure.
They bolsted their bullpen at the trade lead line. You
get him, Yes, you can't play in the postseason. They
could certainly get you to the postseason. Candy, please put
that comment up by Willie eptin junior because That's where
I'm going with this next one. Anyways. Okay, wish that
he should be the next to get a team, and MLB,
well say what MLB believes at Nashville Salt Lake City

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on the strongest expansion markets. Orlando has secured enough money
to build a ballpark. So with that said, Trent, who
do you think is the best candidate to get an
ax maansion team? Uh?

Speaker 9 (06:51):
I think they should get one back and Sasha get
sousut Chicago and maybe they should get a team back.
Oh no, that's right, White Sox. So like if you're
talking about a major league team and not a Triple
A team. Yeah, I think I think that Nashville, it
would be a great spot, right. I mean, it's a
booming town. It's it's just doing so well. It also
brings another central team to the middle of the country,

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and I think that would really matter. It's probably still
a few of those Braves fans, But at the end
of the day, I think Nashville will be a great
teach Candy.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
Nashville already has a minor league team. They have the
Nashville Sounds. That's what Farmer League for the Milwaukee Brewers.
We've been there. It's a you know, it's a great
little park. They're a great sports down there, up and coming.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
You know, as much as I'd hate to see uh,
because I don't think they support a major and a
minor league team. But I could totally see that market
supporting an MLB team.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
So, uh, Skip, what do you think?

Speaker 7 (07:54):
Well, you know, I think Nashville definitely has the population
and the money to support a major league team. Will say,
as a visitor going there for Triple A BA BA ball,
there was not very many fans at the games. It
was very unimpressive the way they kind of embraced the
Triple A team at that time. Salt Lake City I

(08:15):
got to play in for for quite a.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Bit and I really liked it there.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
But again, the challenge is how many fans are gonna
come to the game. So if I had to choose
between the two, I would probably say Nashville just because
of the money and the population and then kind of
go from there and see what you get. You know,
it's a toss up any time you try to start
a new team anywhere.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
So you're committing.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
So you're committing to Nashville, but you're not committing to
these other choices.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Right, That's right exactly?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
You know, Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's pretty interesting answer, I clerk.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
You go as a young as a young coach of
a of a nice gun little young guy coming up
named Mickey Callaway out in Salt Lake City. Uh, you
know it's not a pictures area, right, this is an altitude. Man.
The ball does fly Lake City. So you're gonna go
in the city Salt Lake games if that happens, which
is obviously a Triple A facility and it's a beautiful park. Mick,

(09:07):
I think you can agree to that, and that talent
can probably support it. But I mean, you're gonna have games.
They are gonna be like sixteen to twelve.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Man, Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
I think it'd be tough to have another Colorado in
the league. You know, it's everybody's worst night, Mayor to
go into Colorado and have to play Already, you just
dread it because you know your era.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Is gonna take a hit.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
The whole team is gonna, you know, be swinging for
the fences, and it'd be tough to have another place
like Colorado in the mix.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
That's an interesting point that I owed you. You know,
let's go to the chat room and let's go to
Cliff Neil. He's gonna be on Wednesday night anyways talking
an NHL expansion. But this guy when he comes to expansion.
He's definitely coming on Nashville and Charlotte. There was a
time when I thought Charlotte was a serious candidate, but
I haven't seen any movement whatsoever with the stadium, so
that doesn't leave me to believe that Charlotte's a serious candidate.

(09:57):
But yes, there was a time when I actually had
a guy who was a commentator from Charlotte. We talked
about it. But now I don't think about Charlotte at all.
But I understand the logic that Charlotte's a four hour
drive from Atlanta, so you have a built in rivalry
off I eighty five.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
There, Cliff makes sense. Get me a stateium a different story.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Then we'll talk about mister food man here, Joshua Door
a little bit of light hearted kitty for the Kansi Man, Hey,
there's a rumor going around her cats. I hear a
ball you go to a bowl game and doesn't even
eat a hot dog. I don't know whether you're making
this up or whether you're delusional, but I'll let Eric
answer this one.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
It probably doesn't eat some brat worst.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Well, well I don't. I'm not sure if Joshua Door
knows all about food in Wisconsin. But we also have
Broatworths here too, you know, and that's significantly more filling
than a hot dog. So I suggest you do your
research research, mister Door, and don't let your last name
hit you on the way in either.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh look at it.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I love it the KANTSI man, all right, Well what
about Utah and New York m LB. I have a
feeling that's your other tax partner chiming in right, Rob, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
There's a great chance they get one.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
So, so who have I called on so far?

Speaker 6 (11:10):
You have called me.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Go ahead, I'm calling on you now, Okay.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
Well, first off, I love Nashville. I mean I I've
been there. I actually almost moved there a few years ago.
I love Nashville. I mean they've been trying for a
while now they're they're trying to get a expansion team.
It goes back to as far as far back as
nineteen ninety three when Maajor League Baseball decided to make
the mistake of giving a team giving a team down

(11:35):
to Miami. But it's a you know, to be true.
They embraced that Triple A team, man, they really do.
And I don't see the Triple A team going anywhere.
I mean, sure it will dip into their crowds, but nah,
they've shown that they love the team. There are plenty
of cities that have great minor league teams that all
that draw well despite playing in a major market. Take

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the King kind of Cougars, for example, in Illinois, just
outside of Chicago. They're compete with the Cubs in the
White Sox. Yet here we are they're still drawing well.
Plus there's an abundance of minor league baseball teams all
over the Chicago suburbs. So I promise you they will
be just fine. They know that their crowds are going
to take a hit, but hey, they want they They're
equalis of bringing major League baseball to Nashville. As far

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as Utah goes, I don't want it there for variety reasons.
I just feel like it's be a course field.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Part two.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
I feel like that. I feel like the Rockies they
got that, they got this fite being as bad as
they are, they got that team. They got that team
that area kind of kind of like stacked. And third
of all, who wants to who wants to have a
major League baseball team in a in a city where
the bar hours are limited, not me, And you know,

(12:44):
it's just you know, I don't. I don't like the idea.
I'd never have. If anything, though, I'd want to see
Charlotte Charlotte get a team before they do, although I
see it someone moving to Charlotte. And the thing about
Nashville too, is there's a bunch of area in Nashville
that no Major League Baseball he can claim based on
territory rights. Yeah, you got the Braves, the outlier teams
like the Braves here and there on parts of the

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state in terms of in terms of like you know
what you're able to claim as your market. But now
there's a lot a lot of Nashville and Tennessee in
general cannot be claimed by other teams, you know, So
like you have an untapped market there where you can
easily create new fans and actually and actually grow the game,
something Rob Manfred says he wants to do, but apparently

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keeps on falling on his face every time he says it.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
So, who haven't I told on? Yeah, Candy, have you
got your word in on this?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yep?

Speaker 8 (13:36):
On it?

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Okay, go ahead, Yeah, I go with Nashville too. A
lot of people from New York City are leaving for Nashville.
You know, it's it's starting to populate there, and why
not have a major League ballpark there, a team there?
They have everything else there, right, So I think Nashville
can support it, and I think it should be Nashville. Utah,

(14:00):
like everyone else said, it's gonna be another Colorado situation. Pitchers,
eras are gonna be way up there. I don't see
Utah at all, but I go with Nashville.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, so from when I'm hearing, Utah is a little
further along though with their ballpark situation, and that's why
they're being looked at as highly as they are. But
I'll throw one out there that nobody's talked about, and
that's this Nashville. I definitely believe said that one. Charlotte
I thought for a while, but they haven't done anything
to impress me. But I'll put this one out there.
How about Portland, Oregon? No, Portland Oregon would be interesting.

(14:37):
If you get a dome out there, it really would.
Then all you basically have is what you got the Trailblazers,
and then you have the baseball team and once upon
a time in the NBA Portland and Seattle had a
great rivalry. So I'm just gonna throw Portland into that
arena and see what happens. What do you think about that?
Everybody's it won't.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
It won't happen because because number one, the giant that
you're gonna have to get that past the Giants, and
the Giants and the Mariners, who can lay, who can
lame claim to the state of Oregon. And also, to
an extent, the you know, whatever you call the athletics
these days, the temporary Sacramento Athletics, the Vegas Athletics, whatever,
you know, they're gonna claim to that territory too, because

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even when they move to Vegas, I believe they'll have
a share of of Oregon. So you know, you're gonna
have people fighting over that, fighting over that puzzle. And
and trust me, I have never Oregon, just baseball wise.
I don't think they're really that impressive. To be truthful,
that's it'd be just to me. It'd be a Tampa
Bay Rays two point zero.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, we'll see. It'll be interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Now see how it plays out right now the leading
candidates or when my sources are telling me, even though
nobody wants it to happen are Utah and Nashville. I
will again once again, I think Charlotte should have been
more proactive where they're at, but we haven't been able
to see any of that simply take place at all,
So we're also a great start.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'll go back to Joshua Door. I'm sure I probably would.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I did hear from the guy the other day, so
you might want to add him your friendly group chat.
And I'll explain off camera another time I had to
put it in there. It doesn't make any difference, okay,
And we're not getting into the I think you're far
enough on the food. Gosh, I'm cutting you off right there.
So as we continue on here at the broadcast here,

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we're about sixteen minutes into it. Former MLB pitcher Dan
Sarafini was convicted of murdering his father in law and
at one point three million dollars. Feel Oh my goodness,
this is not a good look, Rob. What here talks
about the former major leaguer getting into a heap of trouble?

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, well he got in the heap of trouble because
he doesn't know how to manage his money.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Right.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
He made a lot of money for a very, very
you know, mediocre pitcher, that's for sure. I can't even
believe how much he made when I looked at it.
He owned a bar that went under. He was on
that show Bar Rescue, so it's all about the money
he got. I just think he should be locked up
without parole for life, killing his his father in law

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and his mother in law. Basically she didn't die from
what he did, but she committed suicide a year later,
becaurse of this. So I think it's disgusting. The guy
did not know how to handle his money and he
killed his in laws. He should just be done for
the rest of his life.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Eric, Honestly, like I saw, I actually saw the episode
of Bar Rescue with him actually on it. That's how
it took me a minute to recognize their name. To
be truthful, I always thought the guy was stupid on TV,
and he was definitely not the brightest ball in the box.
But but to be but this just this is just
the capper of stupidity. The guy didn't know how to
deal with his money. He messed around with the wrong people.

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He you know, his bar went under, so he clearly
made a bad investment there. Apparently, you know, and like, gosh,
what how stupid can you be? I mean, you were,
you were dumb, but now you've found you've somehow found
a new level of stupid, and now there won't be
anything for you besides the cold, the cold floor of
a jail, cell.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Candy.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
You know. It's it's sad to see people that make
so much money not have somebody to help them manage
that money. You know, uh, I tell people all the time,
you know, it doesn't matter how much money you have.
If you're not a money person, you should talk to

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people that can help you with money. There's lots of
people out there that can help people with money. Now,
to do what he did after the I mean, that's
just that's horrific, like murdering anybody you they I you know,
if you watched any of the news lately, there was

(19:03):
actually a jail that the roof blew off with the weather.
I mean, the weather's been so bad. But they should
put him in a spot and throw away the key.
Like I believe that all the a bunch of these
murderers should just be put in one prison all together.
Let them fight themselves. If they want to murder each other,
go right ahead. But Uh yeah, throw away the key,

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lock them up. And I don't really want to be
paying for you to live out the rest of your
life someplace either, So I really have a hard time
with that.

Speaker 9 (19:39):
Kat Yeah for me. You know, tragic, right. We see
these folks and listen, there's gonna be bad actors in
every industry and this isn't any different. And his career
kind of shows that he spent three year with the
Twins and then it was just bouncing from team to
team looking to get an opportunity. He made a little money.
I don't know what. How with the whole money issue,

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it sounded like that was a big part of the feud,
but it's also a mistress involved. I mean, the whole
thing just just smells of just just to train off
the rails, and you know, it's a train wreck. And
this is this is what happens when we don't put
checks and bounces in place in people's lives and we

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look the other way on bad actors. And I'm sure
no one wakes up and decides this is a good idea.
Like one day, there are a bunch of steps and
there's a bunch of things that people I think probably
ignored in this guy's behavior along the way, and someone
didn't tighten this kid up, and it's too bad. He's
not a kid. He's fifty one years old, like he's

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he's not a young man. So it's it's horrific, sad,
and I'm with Candy on this. I don't want my
tax dollars to go towards people like this, to keep
them around, uh, with the risk of coming back in
and trying to mix into societ with this kind of behavior.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I'll wait for Mick to get back on.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
But since you were not last week anyways, Trent, and
I only was posed this on to you, Rob.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Do you think Sammy Socilis should be in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Front man.

Speaker 9 (21:15):
God Lee, it's it's it's a tough call, like first
of all, on merit alone, on his ability, on his numbers,
of course, you know, his numbers showed that he should be.
I don't know where Sammy Sosia is on the admission
of guilt if charged with being guilty of enhancement, you know, steroids.
I don't know where that legally is on the so

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suspected for sure, for sure, but I don't know if
there's actually a legal and I mean, last time I
looked in this country, it's still innocent until proven guilty.
So I don't know how you do it, But on
the merit of his talents and what he did on
the field, I would say.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yes, all right, Rob, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:58):
I agree, especially since you know MLB knew something was
going on. But they loved Sosa and McGuire that season,
right they listen, they are at fault too because they
did nothing about it when that was happening. They loved
the ratings, they loved what was going on, and then boom,
after all of that, then all this other stuff started.

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So bye by his merit and everything, Bye by his record. Yeah,
and and the steroid guys, a lot of them deserve
to be in the Hall of Fame because Major League
Baseball knew what was going on and they let it happen,
especially with McGuire and Sosa and the home run race
that year.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Okay, all right, making back just in time for this topic.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You're you know, the last word on it for MARMLB
pitcher Dan Seraphi was convicted of murdering his father in law.
Is a father in law and at one point five
million dollars a field. Where are you at with this one?

Speaker 7 (22:58):
You know, I played I played with Dan with the
Anaheim Angels back in the day, and it's just unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I don't even really know what to think about it.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
I heard that he had this issue a few years ago,
and I guess the conviction has come down and it's just,
you know, sad for everybody involved.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay, fair enough, Okay, let's talk about some possible Hall
of famers now. First of all, I want to go
over to Andrews Jones. Andrew Jones, first of all, a
five time aulstir ten time Gold Globe winner, will manage
Team Netherlands in the WWC. So first of all, let's

(23:40):
talk about the fact that what are your thoughts about
him managing in the Netherlands Skip.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, I love this idea that he's doing this.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Obviously a great player, I think worthy of the Hall
of Fame. I'm sure he's going to drop a lot
of knowledge on these Netherland players and it's got to
be exciting for them to be around someone as as
reputable as him. So I love that he's going to
manage the team. Brings a little excitement to the Netherlands there,

(24:13):
and to me, he's worthy of the Hall of Fame.
I'm you know, I'm always always for as many people
in the Hall of Fame as possible if they've dominated
the way they he did for that seven year or
ten year stretch, So I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Love Also, Also, his numbers, by the way, are two
fifty four nineteen hundred and thirty three hits, four hundred
and thirty four home runs, twelve eighty nine RBIs and
twelve hundred and four runs.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
So you'll like it, they'll just skip I do.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
I like it a lot.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
I think that he was one of the best center
fielders there was in that ten year span.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, so all right, Eric, your thoughts about Andrew Jones.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
I'm good for him for mansing. I remember Andrew Jones
when I was when I was when I was growing up.
You know, they called the Braves lineup for the long
was time keeping up with the Joneses, with him and
with him and Chipper. But you know, as you know, Greg,
great to see he's still staying involved in the game.
But here's the thing, though the first part of his
career was great with it with the Atlanta Braves, However,

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it's the second half of his career where he just
where he just fell right off. He signed that big
long deal with the Dodgers to the point where where Frank
where it was I think it was Frank McCourt at
the time who was who we found out later was
broker and broke. He ends up he ends up eating
all that money because he didn't even want Andrew Jones around.
Although he became a serviceful productive he became a service

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full player with a few different teams like later on
as a part time player. But here's the thing where
they're electing him off peak, which don't get me wrong,
his peak is great. But you know, he had a
very much a very similar career to Don Mattingly.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
It was a.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Great it was a great first part where you're up
here and then you fall right back down. That's that's
my only problem with it. And I will I will
say though that I will if there's any I don't.
I think Andrew Jones was the best center fielder during
that time. Yes, he has ten goal gloves, but if anything,
I would put Bernie Williams over him, and and like

(26:11):
it's just like to me, it was like to me,
like you know, I mean, yeah, great player, but we're
only measuring him off peak though. I mean, if you
put him in, you gotta put Maddallee in there.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Okay, all right, Rob, I think Andrew Jones is right
on that line for the Hall of Fame. You know,
it could go either way. Listen, he being a Met
fan during those years with him and Chipper killing the Mets.
You know, he was just amazing. But like Eric said,

(26:43):
the first half of his career was great, but by
the time he finished with the Yankees, you know he
was down. But ten time Gold Glove winner, right, seven
time All Star and those great Braves teams and the
four hundred and thirty four home runs, you know, most
of his stuff of forore, he's thirty. If I had to,
if someone had a guns in my head, I say, yes,

(27:04):
I'd put him in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Okay, well, let me go. Can't do what your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (27:13):
You know, anytime you start drawing comparisons to Willie Mays
and was considered one of the top center fielders in baseball,
how do you not like if you're gonna put his
name in with such an iconic and well known baseball player.
That's already in the hall. You almost have to. But

(27:37):
I agree, like Eric, if you're gonna put him in,
there's a number of them that I think are right
on that borderline that if you're gonna put him in,
you got to put some of the other ones in.
But I think you to him for getting back the
game and and coaching up in the Netherlands. It's a
beautiful part of the country.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
We were just there about you, Clark.

Speaker 9 (28:00):
Yeah, you know. One I would love to know how
many how many people actually have ten gold gloves? I mean,
like that's crazy, right, Like there's I don't think there's
a ton of people who actually have ten plus well,
you know, it points to the one devity in the league.
It points to his ability and in a highly skilled
position which is usually basically speed based as well, So

(28:22):
it's a it's a matter of him staying up in
the game a long time. I love Candy's reference and
the fact that he was comparison to Maze, which is crazy.
So you know, I not only do I think he
is on that edge of the Hall of Fame, which
I would push him in because of the defense more
than anything, and and being part of a winning team.
You know, the guy was a winner, and I think

(28:44):
the other side of this is that I love him
getting into the game. I see in the World Baseball
Classic with yachti Air, Andrew Jones, Dusty Baker. They're really
starting to add some some firepower and names to these
and I think it's great for these guys to go
back and give into these countries that baseball is not
a thing right now. The NFL's done is better than
anybody about getting other countries involved in NFL. This could

(29:07):
be a great way for baseball to bring it to
a world sport, not just Asian and North America, Central America.

Speaker 8 (29:16):
Trent, wait, No, I want to quick say, in reference
to your question, there are fifteen non pitcher MLB players
who have won at least ten Gold Glove Awards. There
were two that won twelve Willie Mays and Roberto Clemente
eleven gold gloves and ten was Heath Hernandez and then

(29:39):
ten gold gloves. There's a whole there's a whole list
of them.

Speaker 9 (29:42):
But she said only fifteen. Ever, like ever, yeah, this
is one hundred and nine years, right, Like how many
years have we been doing this? Like it's it's crazy
so forever. Yeah, so like it's been a long time.
I mean, that's that's a it's a staggering stat Yeah,
thank you, Candy good stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
So whoever I called on yet me. Here's the thing.
Borderline four point thirty four. I like the number, I
really do. The other number is a ten time gold Gloves.
I like him nineteen hundred and thirty three hits last
time I saw a Hall of Fame guy, I get in.

(30:22):
You need at least twenty five hundred or three thousand
to at least get near that number. Yeah, that's a
little bit low average two fifty four. Sorry, doesn't really
cut it. The borderlined I'm actually gonna say no. But
I have some good advice to you, mister Jones. If
you're in the Netherlands, buy yourself a good bike because
you can be biking to work because everybody else does too.

(30:45):
I actually, I actually have a hat with a bike,
and I have a shirt with a bike, and I
got to lose for all from the Netherlands. Yes, I
had to make sure I got some bicycles a tire
from the Netherlands, even though I'm too big to get
I want to be dark, so I'm gonna say sorry,
but take up picking. That's a good thing. They all do.
Everybody's six kid. And one of my first interviews on

(31:07):
there was a tour guy had some very interesting information,
and I encourage you if you want to hear a
little bit about some of the things I learned, I
would go to the professor and pupil because I don't
want to put this on a family show to night.
I guarantee that's a little teaser. All right, we'll stay
in the World Baseball class from now that we got
skipping a good spot where we will get to some

(31:28):
of the other topics. We'll be holding out on good stuff.
I want to make sure our manager got home faith.
But Dusty Baker could stay out of the managing rent
because he could be managing Team Nick Aragua in the
twenty twenty six World Baseball Classic, Bester Manager, you thought
about Dusty getting back into doug out.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, obviously one of the best managers of
all time, you know. I talked to tons of guys
that I had been around that had Dusty as a manager,
and he's one of the best player managers you could
ever ask for.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
So for him to have his.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Influence around those Nicaraguan players and to just bring a
wealth of knowledge to uh, you know, a country that's
really trying to get up and coming. I mean, I
would love to see more Nicaraguan players in the in
the big leagues. So for him to take your time
out and go over there and really help these guys out,

(32:23):
hopefully it brings some excitement and then they can really
start their professional leagues and and build upon them, so
we can get some more guys in the big leagues
from Nicaragua.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I love it, beautiful. I can't see what do you
think about Dusty?

Speaker 6 (32:37):
I mean, well, who else would you want? Guys? Great guys,
guys great with the people for first and foremost. I mean,
he managed to the great thing about him was he
meant you know, he's managed all sorts of personalities including
Barry Bond, Sammy Sosa and the like. And you know,
Ken can't can't get much better than that, having to

(32:57):
deal with two superstars like that, and and you know,
he he's won everywhere he's gone. He won in San Francisco.
Chicago was a shorter stay though, but he took them
to the NLCS and came within and came within an
Alex Gonzalez. Yes, I said Alex Gonzalas and Alex Gonzalez
Batch double play away from taking the Cubs to the
World Series, and it might have been it might have

(33:19):
been him, you know, lifting the World Series trophy, not
Joe Madden. Also, he took you know, he took the
Nationals to the playoffs and made them a winner. And
then you know, he also helped the Reds, which the
Reds haven't won since he's been gone. And you know,
now obviously he won his ring with Houston after a
long absence. But you know, I knew Dusty wouldn't uh.
I knew Dusty it wouldn't be long before Dusty came back.

(33:41):
I was I was almost counting on it because I've
seen Dusty do this before where he goes, he goes
and chills and says, I'm done and next thing, you know, ah, board,
I need to go manage and you know he's gonna
you know, he's gonna have Nicarago. I have played at the
very least beat, playing very competitive in the WBC, and
I would not sleep on them, especially with dust Baker
in there, because he gives that. He gives every team

(34:02):
he's ever managed a chance every night.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Rob, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
I love to see Dusty Baker coming back. Listen, the
guy has the seven most wins of managers in Major
League history, all right, twenty six years managing and two
and eighty three wins. And he took five teams to
the postseason, all right, five different teams. Only guy who

(34:28):
did it? I love it and I can't wait to
see him manage in the World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Candy, I love it too.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
I think it's a great move. I mean, he's had
such a great career and great job coaching. Why not.
I mean, kudos to him, and kudos for them for
getting him.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
Clark, Well, listen to Dusty Baker proves himself as a manager.
He tends to team Nicaragua to the World Baseball Classic finals,
like he's gonna prove that he's got his merit r.
And and by the way, a guy ie coach, you
better have Dennis Martinez, mister Nicaragua as his pitching guy, right,
Like Dennis Marttinez was a great one of the one
of Nicaragua's best ever. And and I mean that guy

(35:14):
is uh loves his country. He always promotes it. And
I don't know that as a righty, he might lead
pickoffs of all time. As a right handed pitcher, a
guy could snap guys off the bases. He bring bring
some of the best off the off the uh off
first base and second had a great move. So yeah,
Dennis Martinez is a great guy, and I think like

(35:35):
it'd be interesting to see who Dusty takes with him
to really build up that Nicaragua program. Obviously he's gonna
have a massive influence. But uh yeah, I agree with you, MotorCity,
that man. It's just great for that country to see
that and have an icon like that leading him.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Oh God, I'll tell you one thing, these kids got
to be thrilled. I mean, all these guys. You're talking
about a guy that's played the game man at a
high level, and all of a sudden you get to
learn from him. You're a lot about learning from the
foundation this guy.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
He's iconic.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
One thing one of the things I had frustrated about
covering some major league players is they never knew the
history of the game. But I'll tell you one thing,
these kids are gonna get to know the history of
it Dusty pretty well. Yeh. It'll be interesting to see
what so, Yeah, I'm glad he's actually back in it,
and it's good to see a lot of different players
use the World Baseball Classic as a way to manage.
And we have one more World Baseball Classic to talk

(36:28):
about as the segue into it, because y'at here. Molina
has been named Tim Puerto Rico's manager for the twenty
twenty six World Baseball Classic. And guess who he's taking
with him on his coaching staff, Edgar Martinez in one,
I don't want to play cole America Park, Gonzalez is
joining his staff. Co America Park people back when it

(36:48):
was a big park. Scared god, one Gonzalez out of there.
But anyways, I got ya out here. You got one,
You got Edgar Martinez. And you know what I work
with one Gonzalas of the nineteen eighty seven as Sonia Rangers.
And this guy, all he was doing when he was
a young pup was taking taking laundry baskets and throwing

(37:10):
him inside the hotel room because he was mad. But
that's that, so skip, what are your thoughts about Yondre
Molina taking the job at Puerto Rico and then his
good buddies Edgar Martinez and one gun Zala's get to joinna.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, I mean what a staff right there.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
I mean that's you know, three guys that played at
the top level that you could possibly get. But I
would think that every Puerto Rican guy is going to be,
you know, foaming at the mouth to get on this team,
to be around those three guys.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
And I think Yachti Molina obviously is.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
One of the best catchers that ever was, and I
think you're going to see him managing in the big
leagues more than likely the Saint Louis Cardinals at some point.
So this is probably his little segue into getting some
a little bit of experience so he can go do
the dream job that he wants when I'm sure is
managing the Saint Louis Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
So this is awesome point, all.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
Right, can't sy well, well, Albert Pooles with like a
word too, because he's to be after that job as well,
and actually a proven winner. And my guy who's proven
he can do it is Skip Schumacher, which he's he's
a He's that's who Cardinal fans want, given the success
he had in the short in a short time in Miami.
But you know he but you know, yeah, yeah, Malina

(38:28):
has always been rumored to be like on a coaching
staff or managing I know, I know, it's been talked about.
I know Saint Louis has kind of broached the idea
of bringing him back and in some sort of capacity.
But it's great that he's doing it because gosh, Puerto Ricos,
Puerto Rico is very a very good baseball country. You
can probably count cals as if he stays healthy, Carlos
Korea being on that team, and you know, so he's so,

(38:50):
he's got a he's got a nice middle of the
line of bat to work with, and he's you know,
it's gonna be a it's they're gonna be I think
they're gonna be competitive. I mean it's going you know,
they got a they got a guy who's done it
at a high level, who, in my eyes, was the
greatest catcher of my of my era. I mean, you know,

(39:10):
best defensive catcher of like twenty twenty tens, you name.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
It all, right, Rob, Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Definitely, that's good for Puerto Rico. And yeah, the best,
one of the best defensive catchers in the history of
the game.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
You know.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Offense wasn't that great, but defensively not many are better.
I like it. I always thought he would be manager,
if not the Cardinals, I thought maybe of the Marlins.
But I think he does get back on some kind
of in some kind of capacity with the Cardinals coaching staff,

(39:48):
and I think eventually he will be a manager in
a major league Candy.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
Yeah, kudos to him. I think he's gonna be back there,
that's all I Yeah, I'm tongue tied, but no, I
think it's good for him.

Speaker 9 (40:08):
Clerky, Yeah, I think the whole Molina family is just
all baseball, right from their dad to the three boys
to three catchers. By the way, like I can't imagine
sitting these guys dinner table about what we're talking about. Like, man,
it'd be a clinic for guys like Mickey and I
just talk to these guys about what they've seen over
the time as catchers, and we see, like we're we're

(40:29):
at about a little over fifty percent of uh former
catchers are managers in major leagues. So you see this
quite a bit not uncommon, you know, field general oftentimes
and doing the day to day job. It's a it's
a heavy lift to be a player as a catcher
with all you have to manage, so so I think
it makes perfect sense and I think Puerto Rico will
be formidable at the World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yes, I'm always taught to catchers make really good managers,
don't you think, skip Because they see the whole field
and they have a good feel for the game. And hey,
I was one, but I've never made a manager, but
all I did was this stuff. But catchers have an
eye for the game.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
They really, yeah, they really do, absolutely, you know, like
you said, they get to sit back and see all
other eight positions on the field and what their responsibilities are,
and they're the only ones they get to do that. Right,
Maybe the center fielder gets to see see quite a
few guys, but he's he's got the front row seat
and learns the game the most for sure, I would say.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
The others big strong point is the hyper learning of
a catcher. He gets the formidable learning from his manager.
Like his manager at her McGary constantly communicating. The hitting
coaches are going to be communicating, the pitching coaches are
going to communicate with how what we're going to do
with the other teams to line up? So no other
player spends all the time with the majority of the
staff like a catcher does. The rest of us get

(41:53):
our position coach and maybe our hitting guy and that's it,
or our pitching coach and that may be it, or
your manager. And so for this that the catcher gets
access to all that wisdom of all the staff and
all they've been trained up in. And so it's it's
formidable how much they know. More in by the way,
they're always charged with keep your keep your own skills

(42:15):
at that level because if you can't, you'll be replaced. Also,
so it's a lot, you know, Uh, cat catchers are
an eighteen hour day.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Well, let me tell you this about catchers. Okay, long
I played it.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
We enjoyed talking to the umpires of manipulating these guys.
They protected us, We protected them. You know, we don't
know how many of us got thrown out because we
got called out of ums, right, So we had to
deal with these guys all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
So you know, we have a unique relationship with the umpires,
really do.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
But yeah, no, I think it's great that he is
going to be doing this for Puerto Rico and ed
Edgar Martinez. Long Gun Zalas is pretty intriguing in its ay,
did I call anyone this?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
You did?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Who have I called on everybody?

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
All right, So let's stay with the umpire theatement. Then
we're going to go to a congratulation and we're talking
about the debut of Jen Paywell, the first woman umpire ever.
She actually missed fourteen calls yesterday, which is the second
worst of umpires yesterday according to.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
For the Umpire Auditor overall. But what are your thoughts,
Clerky about Jen Powell making your debut?

Speaker 9 (43:25):
Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, you know, for me,
I'm a meritocracy guy, So whoever is the best at
their job should get their job. I don't care if
you're green, purple, yellow, male, female, don't really care, Like
it doesn't mean anything to me. I want the best
of the best. You go out and you earn it,
You earn the role, and you'll get the role. So
I love it. If she's earned it, I'll be it,

(43:48):
all right, Candy.

Speaker 8 (43:49):
I agree. I mean, I kind of hate the times
when we have to do reverse discrimination or we're talking
about discrimination because we're doing the best person for the
job should get the job, whether you're black, whether you're white,
whether you're a woman, where you're male. I mean, you
shouldn't segregate out and say this. They shouldn't be able

(44:13):
to be there if they're good at the job. And granted,
obviously her results weren't that great yesterday, but a lot
of pressure, first time, first woman up there, but doing it.
Proud to see. Just surprised it took so long. But
I guess, like I said before, major League Baseball is
the good old boys league. I mean, I hate to

(44:35):
say it like that, but I you know, I think there's.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
More to that.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
Well, let's face it, you're talking about they've been talking
about robot umpires and you just first got a female
umpire in there.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Like I mean, if you ask me if you get
to follow that by the way.

Speaker 7 (44:57):
Yeah, no, I I agree with with all of those points.
I love that she handled the pressure. I can't even
imagine how much pressure she had on her going into
that game and being behind the play. Calling balls of
strikes is probably the second hardest thing to do on
a baseball field besides hitting. It is very difficult to

(45:18):
track those pitches coming at one hundred miles per hour,
and you know, really anticipate and make a call.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
At the right time. So she held her own. She
did a great job.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
You know, she was within the normal range of what
all of the you know, long term major League baseball
umpires are doing dirt throughout the course of a game.
So very impressive by her, and I look forward to
seeing more of her out on the baseball field.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
So let me put you in a hypothetical. Okay, you
don't give a spread call the way you want. Are
you being nice to her? Are you gonna throw the hat,
You're gonna kick the dirt? Or how animated are you
going to get with a woman out there?

Speaker 7 (45:56):
You know, I think I think that that you you
won't even take that into account, right, Uh, when you
know all of these umpires, you know the really good ones,
the ones that are you know, the nicest guys, and even.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
The ones you love the most. When the game's on
the line and they and they make a bad call, I.

Speaker 7 (46:14):
Mean, you're screaming and yelling at them, right and you're
gonna get thrown out at some point. So I don't
think she's gonna get any favorable treatment at all.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I think that's fair.

Speaker 7 (46:23):
And and like I said, this is This is life
and death to everybody on that baseball field. So when
you when you get flared up, it doesn't matter who
it is, the nicest guy, the worst guy, the best woman.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
You're you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna get flared up.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
And and you know if you'll lose your cool from
time to time and protect your players when you need to.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
And that's part of the baseball game.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I like that comment. And I'll tell you why I
like that comment because you fall into a journalism category
called being objective. You're being objective. That was one of
your better comeback. Alloway, I love it. That was good.
That all being objective one to one. That's what they
teaching journalism school. That's objective. Really really thank you, all right, Cassie.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Well, I mean good for her. Obviously, baseball was kind
of lighted behind, kind of light behind other sports league
in terms of diversity and being on the forefront of conclusion.
Baseball used to be really good at that, but now
they've kind of they've kind of lagged, you know, for
the past while now. I mean as far as her
job goes, I mean, let's be honest, she she knows
what she's getting into I mean, she's been doing it

(47:35):
at the minor league level. I'm sure she's chucked out
a manager or two here and there. And but let's
be honest. You know, when at your job on the
line here, and your job is to win ball games,
you know, you're not thinking about whether it's male or female.
You're thinking about your job and whether it's a bad
call or a crucial call at any point, any point

(47:56):
in the ball game earlier late, because that can ultimately
swing the momentum of a game. And you know, ultimately,
you know, she's gonna be treated like like all the
other like the all the umpires some other. Some managers
are gonna love her. Other managers are gonna hate her,
unless you're unless she somehow finds a way into the
into her own category like Angel Hernandez, where he's where
you're universally loath. But you know, but she knows what,

(48:20):
she knows what she's doing, she knows what she's getting into.
I mean, yeah, she missed some calls, but come on,
it's all one game. You can't really determine how an
umpire is just based on like one game because she
just got called up, so well, you know, you got
to determine that over you know, the life of a
season or the light actually is probably gonna take her
longer because she hasn't been up very long. So like
you know, don't use the first game obviously, you know

(48:40):
it's the moment. The news, the media was all over it,
and you know, I think what she settles into it,
I think I think it'll work out.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Rob, I agree.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
I love it, you know, and I want the best.
I don't care if they're male, male, female, I don't
care what they are. I want the best. And a
lot of the umpire is now you know, they interject themselves.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
In the game.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
It's not about them. It's about the game. So I
want the best. And she knows what she's getting into,
and no one when when she blows a call and
it hurts your team, they're not gonna look and say,
let me be nicer because she's female. They're gonna go
nuts on her, just like they will with a male.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
All right, here's what you have, Jen, Welcome to the
big leagues. If you're if you're doing the big league
thing next year, here's what you've got. Welcome the babys, Jhen.
They get the dog for you and then he'll get challenge.
So enjoy the human OMN. William got it, Jen, because

(49:47):
robot players colayers are comment to town and am I singing, No,
I'm not American idol, I'm anywhere.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
So enjoy the old natural element.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
JN.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Glad you made it, and go ahead, skip Scott.

Speaker 7 (50:04):
I'd like to add something to this, you know, not
necessarily about women men umpires, but i'll let me let
me say this, and I think this is pretty accurate
to a huge degree. There's no manager out there that
wants to yell at an umpire that does it out
of spite because they don't like the guy. It's not

(50:26):
even about the calls that were missed. It is solely
about protecting the player that was up to bat or
pitching when those calls were made. And if you can't
go out there and fight for your players, you're going
to lose your respect. So most of the time, ninety
nine percent of the time, a manager is getting tossed

(50:49):
out for Jacob deGrom, for Trevor Bauer, for whomever is
out there, you know, getting the raw end of the
deal when some calls were made. So it's really more
about protecting players in the media protecting players on the field.
That's why managers get upset and that's why they lose

(51:11):
their cool. Otherwise, we teach the guys, hey, don't worry
about bad calls. It's not what you can control, right,
That's what we're saying ninety eight percent of the time.
But when we see a guy getting frustrated at the plate,
or we see a guy getting frustrated on the mound,
a lot of times we're trying to run out there
and get tossed before they do, and it hurts the team.

(51:32):
You know, the team can perform without the manager and
the dogout. It's hard to do when your starting pitcher gets,
you know, kicked out of the game because they're making
bad calls. So it's really more about protecting players than
it is anything.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
That's why we have you on the show because you're
the one is going to give a little perspective. So
I'm going to ask you another question now that you've
brought this to pick up, are you going to sit
there and tell me that about Billy Martin and earro Weaver.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Those are the one percent exceptions.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
That exactly that's why fun doing it well, hold it.
Let me say this guy's here. He's one hundred percent right.
I met Billy Martin before, and actually he was nice
to me. Of course he was sober, and of course
he always so U having comment when he got killed

(52:21):
and busted my ankle and Magic Mountain and I clip
for the take once upon a time. So that's where
Billy and I go. But if you're gonna sit here
and tell me that about Billy Martin and Earl we were,
who's gonna go after you, then that's where you're one percent.
But otherwise I see your point. But you left me
wide open for that, you know it? And why do
you think we have a shot coming up? And that's

(52:41):
what about your show? Catsie's gonna be on the with us, right,
cants go ahead?

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Absolutely, And I was gonna say, you're forgetting what I
was used. First off, you stole, you stole my thunder
because I was thinking about Earl Waver and Billy Martin,
who practically I think they actually enjoyed yelling at the umpires,
which but I was gonna mention before that though Leo
durosh yuh you know he I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm
one hundred percent sure that he that he enjoyed going

(53:06):
going out there and yelling an umpire, knowing how how
Leo was.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, I final Leo to Roacher too. I knew I
was gonna get you skeptch I knew it. I knew it.
I knew it. But percent right, they're gonna protect the
picture all day long. But those guys didn't care about protection.
They're just looking me go at it man. And that's
one that I'm saying, Well, you think of Billy Martin
and Earle Weaver, and now you got the challenges of

(53:31):
everybody nice to the outfire because you get the challenge
one or two times. And now you got the robots
coming to town. Everybody ruined my thigh. Everybody, you know,
here's the thing, Santa Clause, he's going too. And now
my other thing is robot umpires are coming to town.
All right, that's the end of my saving.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I don't want people to go death over the show.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
With still more companies to get to here on Hungry
to Baseball Talk, Scott Morgan Rock please be joined by
Trent Clark, Kaney Eveling, Rob Morosco, Eric Kanton.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I'm manager Mickey Callaway.

Speaker 8 (54:01):
As we can change, let's face it, Scott. If anybody
wants to hear your singing, they can go to our
YouTube channel. You have. You have a song on there
and make some music. Chop six on the short so
go check it out.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Oh Meg, your old kind of music. Don't worry, Rob.
One of these days we'll play it on here. All right,
everybody get a piece of the action on this one.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
With that said, before we go to our first station break,
I'm gonna do something here that Skip really likes you do,
and that's come up with a stat out of nowhere.
He loves these. That's a part of the show. So
we're gonna do it on July second, People of nineteen
thirty three.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
I love thee.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
By the way, that number Tar Hubble talks is eighteen
shut out. Any I knew that was gonna get your
stip leading the New York Giants will one and nothing
went over the car those twelve k's no lungs out
Duel Cardinals hurler Tex Carlton, who, by the way, pitch
sixteen innings of his own. My goodness, Step, how do

(55:10):
you like that pitching number?

Speaker 7 (55:13):
I just don't understand how you can have a one
nothing game with two pitchers that are throwing eighteen and
sixteen innings. I mean the fifth or sixth at bat.
We couldn't do any better in the lineup than that.
And you know, to throw, I mean, how many pitches
did they throw? He had to have thrown two hundred
and fifty five pitches or so, you know, to get

(55:34):
through eighteen innings. It's just amazing to me what those
guys were able.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
To do back in the day.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
And it makes you wonder, you know, what are we
doing wrong that we can only throw ninety pitches or
eighty five pitches now as a start and staff.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Makes you wonder if I'm going by the numbers I have,
and those are the ones I have. But I agree
with you, what are we doing right wrong with all
these Timmy John's you and I will dive deeper on that.
By the way, when Baseball talked Talking baseball with Scott
Morgan R And Mick Shalloway gets launched really soon. So
that's one of the things that we're gonna be keeping
as we get ready to roll. So all right, cat, say,

(56:11):
give me your brief thoughts about this wild off the
wall number.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Well these well these days, I mean, if you want
to if you want to give an owner or your
or your or a front office executive a heart attack
in the box, you'll you'll, you'll do that. But I'm
but you're not going to see it now because front
offices and owners are living are our fear, are fearing
Tommy John surgery, and they think that taking these guys
out at ninety or one hundred pitches is gonna is

(56:36):
gonna is going to prevent that from happening, when when
in theory you know it won't. You know, it's just
you know, it's just a part of the game. But man,
it's impressive though. If you go you go that long
without giving up a run, most people you know and
keep it by too. You know, pitching staffs were they
were a lot more smaller back then, you know, you
you know, it's not like you could go in go
to a room, go to a like a reliever to

(56:58):
shut it down at some point the ball game. But
it's you know, it's obviously the amount of pitchers they saw,
like in a month, you know, they saw within a year.
You know, a lot of these a lot of these
guys you know, not in today's game probably see that
within a week or two. But you know, it's just
a different game. You know, they just had the rosters

(57:19):
weren't nearly as big as you know they are now.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Rob well, you know what, his specialty pitch was the screwball,
so that that was his specialty pitch. But that's of course,
that's never going to happen again. Owners want to protect
their investments. They weren't paying hundreds of millions of dollars
back then to these players. Okay, these players were just workhorses, cattle,

(57:45):
and that's what happened. But I have to give I
have to give the Giants credit. They took care of
him for the rest of his life, even when they
moved to San Francisco. They took care of him so
he didn't have to worry about a job.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Well, that's really good. Nice to hear that, Candy.

Speaker 8 (58:01):
Kind of crazy. Hubbard came into his start against the
Cardinals with a ten and five record and a two
point eight year A. He was facing tough Saint Louis
lineup that included five hitters who finished with a two
ninety eight batting average or better. Uh, it was one

(58:22):
of the pictures, and I think it was the other
picture was coming off a complete game on two days rest,
So like that is just crazy. How uh and Hubbard
retired the first twelve men he faced in that game.

(58:42):
So crazy to think what we used to let happen
or what happened and then now how the game has
changed so much, Like you would never see a picture
go that long nowadays, never, But kudos to them. I mean,
that's gotta be. I mean the eighteenth Hubbard surrendered are

(59:04):
two out, doubled the Collins before getting out of the inning,
you know with Medrick, just crazy crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's crazy. What do you think, Clark?

Speaker 9 (59:17):
Yeah, I mean for me, it's it's the iron Men,
right like this is uh, this was this was the
other think about a one oh game like eighteen and
sixteen ins. This game might have only been about three
and a half hours, like you know, everyone, so like
the things going pretty quick if they're pounding strikes and
the screwball guys throwing it on everybody's hands so they're
getting infield ground balls and pop up so this could

(59:39):
have been a pretty quick game for for that long.
But obviously, you know, to make He's point, probably two
hundred plus pitches in a game and this guy through
a complete game, the the loser through a complete game
two days before, and then he comes out and throw
sixteen innings like it's crazy, Like I can't imagine what
these guys did after this game to get their arms

(01:00:01):
back in jap But I'll just probably leave that one
to uh, you know who knows anheuser Bush. But it's
a pretty awesome story of a great game, like a
one O game that had to be a great game
to be a part of and be a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
The only thing I'm gonna say, go ahead round.

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
No, I mean, I just wanted to add in his
eighteen innings of work, there were no runs, six hits,
no walks, and twelve strikeouts.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
So you know how, you know how I'm going to
close up the topic. You know the best part about
being the host and the executive producer on this whole thing,
I get to find this stuff because my goal is
to educate and inform and entertain, And every time I
pull one of these out of my pocket, I accomplish
every one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Yes, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Love going back to the old days and pulling this
stuff outline, especially when I realized how off the wall
and crazy this stuff is today. That's why this is
so great. Oh don't worry, I got plenty more. This
is just the one I wanted to choose.

Speaker 9 (01:01:09):
I just would have been I just would have been
pissed if Carl would have lost. That's although you know
of you know, shutout innings and you lose. You know,
obviously later in the game it would have been his loss.
But take him out there, or take him out and
take a loss and later in that game like that
would have that would have been awful. So at least
he was rewarded for the win and and shirt today

(01:01:31):
for you know, Ted grlvon to sixteen. I mean, that's crap, Like,
you know, what's up with the Cardinals. I gotta get
that crap together. You can't throw sixty innings and I'll
score a run, Come on, ter.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
And for the time, Joe Medwick was actually one of
the better hitters in the league at that point in time.

Speaker 9 (01:01:45):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
That was the guy people That was the guy people
watch at that point in time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yep, all right, couple of things. I want to get
to station break just about on the way billionaire justin
Isshudia set to take the trolley stick in the White Time,
No transition will take place until twenty twenty nine. Skip
with your thoughts about Justin Ishia, the brother of Matt
who owns the Phoenix Suns, taking ownership of the Socks.

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
Yeah, I mean, obviously fresh ownership, right, see what direction
they're gonna go. They obviously need to do something to
reinvigorate Chicago there. You know, I think the Socks are
you know, it's it's been a tough road for them
the last ten years or so. So anytime you can reinvigorate,

(01:02:33):
you know, a program and try to get new ownership
and new leadership and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Try to get a better product on the field.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
Let's just hope that this owner is for the fans,
is going to spend some of his hard earned money
to put a great product on the on the field
for the fans, because that's what they deserve.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
Eric, you know, I mean, you know, I knew that
they I knew that. You know, he had increased his
minority share and he owns actually for a little bit
more than and what Jerry reinstorre phones now. But you
know he's gonna Ke's coming into a situation there where
you know, the Socks are, the White Sox are rebuilding.
I mean, they got some pieces there. I mean, Colson
Montgomery is looking like a looking like a stud out there.

(01:03:14):
I know, you know, Shane Smith was Shane Smith was
in the All Star Game this year, and you know
they have you know, obviously Davis Davis Martin could be
a back end piece too, and you know, but you know,
we'll see how it goes. I think, you know, I
think that there are some pieces there. There's you know,
particularly pitching right now and Colson Montgomery and other people.

(01:03:36):
But it's it's gonna be interesting though, So we'll see
if he spends some money. Because they are in a
big market, you know, they when they're winning, they you know,
there is there is a fan base there and but
you know, ultimate ultimately though, you know, he's gonna have
to do something though, because he's competing with with with
the Cubs, because you know, no matter how bad the
Cubs are, how good the Socks are, it's always gonna
be a Cub city rob.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Yeah, it is a Cub city definitely. But this is
good for the Socks as long as he spends some money,
like Mickey said, because what happened in Baltimore, they got
the new owner you know, he was supposed to have
deep pockets, and so far he really hasn't done much
except you know, trade away a lot of guys they
were sellers. So I think it's a good thing for
this for the Socks in Chicago, they had they have

(01:04:23):
to do something.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
The Cubs.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
The Cubs just rules Chicago.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
Oh, the poor White Socks. I'm just kidding. Sorry, sorry, No,
I mean for Chicago to be able to compete and
the White Socks to compete, they obviously need something, a spark.
They need something, and sometimes it starts with ownership, and
that might be just the spark they need to keep
the rest going. Uh, they're in the American League, so

(01:04:55):
you know they have been not good for a while.
So Hope knew this majority going to majority ownership will
help them.

Speaker 9 (01:05:05):
Clerky, Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a lot of south
Side support. They like their White Sox, but everybody loves
a winner too, and you know you're gonna have to
win to the Southsiders to support it. It's harder dollars
and it's hard to go to a game. He's gonna
have to do some things that make it fun and
affordable and get get the kids and the families back

(01:05:27):
and and and winning. Does that right? So these guys
are winners. They they poured a lot of money into
Michigan State to make them winners. They've they've done a
lot in Detroit. They've done a lot in for Detroit
real estate and building that town, turning on around, and
they've done a lot and kind of guaranteed ray Field
might be in jeopardy because I'm sure there are mortgage
companies going on there, so like, I don't know that

(01:05:49):
that lead sponsorship might be a jeopardy for them, but
it's gonna be. It's gonna be interesting to watch and
if and if the money than the Phoenix Suns is
any indication, you know, I'm bullish for the Sox future.
I think it's gonna matter.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, I mean, Ryan Surf I think had a decent
front run for as long as he owned it, but
it was definitely time to make an ownership change for sure.
So I want to send a congratulations to Florida Atlantic
baseball coach John McCormack when he becomes an ABCA with
stands for American Baseball Coaches Association Hall of Famer and

(01:06:30):
January of twenty twenty six, because I'm going to tell
you something. John McCormack has done an outstanding job at
Florida Atlantic University, and I'm good friends with his predecessor,
who I work with, Kevin Cooney. So hat's off to
coach Mac and hopefully i'll see him again next year
as one of the things I'll probably be doing in
twenty twenty six, as in addition to some major league

(01:06:51):
coverage I'm looking for, Candy and I are probably going
to dive into some college baseball coverage again next year,
and FAU could be a stop. So I just want
to put the US out there and skip, I'll have
you anybody else I want time in well. Once again,
congratulations to Florida Lag baseball coach John McCormack when he
becomes an American Baseball Coaching Association Hall of Famer in

(01:07:12):
January twenty six. So skip some talks about go ahead, Candy.

Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
I just want to say kudos to him because to
coach that long and do it as well as he
has at FAU, which is a which is a college
that doesn't isn't well known for baseball. Let's face it
has a smaller stadium, it's not a big stadium, but
to do it for as long as he has like that,
kudos to him, and that's all I'm gonna Well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
That stadium needs a lot of work. I've always been
a proponent they need to get a new stadium. They
know it. But I know that they'll tend to do
is he's a home meach stadium if they really want
to get a lure of big opponent over there, as
they did many years ago Flordigators. But that's I don't
want to take away from what coach McCormack has done
for Kevin Tooney prior to that, but I'm glad he's
getting his recognition.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
And FAU the biggest and the most winning sport in
their history happened to be baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
By the way, football is a new kid on the
block and basketball basketball right, but even though basketball got
to the Final four, the consistency on the diamond for
FAU baseball is really what stands out. Skip some thoughts
about coach Mann.

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
Yeah, I think that's that's wonderful, right, anytime a guy
is there and being a leader of young men and
you know, sending young men off into the world. Obviously
he's had a great impact on them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
You know, I think.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
Playing college athletics when you go to getting the workforce
when you're a young man is a very essential thing
to learn teamwork and things like that. So for him
to lead young men, I think everybody deserves accolades for.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
That and to have an impact on all.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Those young men that he's coached over over the years.
You know, I think any college coach or coach anywhere,
little league coach, whatever, they deserve all the props they
can possibly get.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
So I'm loving it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Coach McCormack a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
His wife, Katrina McCormick, does an outstanding job as the director.
She's in charge of communications, assistant athletic director. Whatever you want,
go ahead, Candy.

Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
I just want to add. He completed his seventeenth year
atop Florida Atlantic University's baseball's head coach in twenty twenty five,
and his thirty fifth season with the program. He had
previously served eleven years as associate head coach and seven
years as an assistant coach, beginning back in nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
There you go, anybody else on the panel on anything
about coach mac, go.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
Ahead, Yeah, I mean to be able to do it
for so long. I mean, everybody knows, Man, that kid.
Kids changed. They are not the same as what they
once were. You know, they're all different, they all have
different interests and things like that. And the fact that
he was still able to you know, recruit them and
kind of which I think, you know, recruiting all comes
down to relating to them. The fact that he was

(01:10:03):
able to do that, because I think that's a that's
a big problem we have, you know, not just in sports,
but I think in the workplace as well. Is that manager,
that coach kind of kind of relating to relating to
his employees. You know, I think that you know, the
fact that he was able to do it for so
long and for able to win and able to win
for so long, you know, it's a testament to him

(01:10:23):
that he was willing to change, because I don't think
enough people of that age are willing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
To change anybody else, you know what you know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Congratulations. His record was five hundred and seventy seven and
three hundred and seventy two losses and two ties. There
are no ties in baseball, right but that is a
great record and for that long, that long a time. Congratulations, kudos.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Okay, We're going to go to a station break. When
we come back out of the Marlins contenders or Pretenders,
We're gonna lead off with that. We'll talk about the
Mets and Yankees and a whole lot more after this
station break.

Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
Candy, go ahead, Okay, hold on, I'm having problems with
my mouse.

Speaker 9 (01:11:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Right, thanks Katie. Well, obviously, our title of tonight is
all the Marlins Contenders pretenders. A week ago we were
singing their praises when they swept Intow York Yankees and
made it to the five hundred mark or fifty five up,
fifty five down. Loll this week, not singing them at
this particular point because I'm going to write a story
on this or the South Florida Tribune, but I wanted

(01:12:46):
to see what happened after the Yankees series, So I'm
going to get everybody a basic overview of what we're
going to talk about here. Number One, after the Yankee Hangover,
they took on the Houston Astros on August fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
We're gonna talk about it tenants too.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Okay, they drew ten thousand and eight twenty seven and
an eight to two loss to the Astros. August fifth,
twelve thousand and one to eighty six showed up at
a low Depot Park seven to three loss.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
They did manage to win.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
On August sixth, ten thousand and seventy three showed up
with a sixty four win. All right, so you got
so at that point after the Houston Series, I still
thought they were contenders. Okay, they't never problem. Houston's in
that heck of a team. But I'm gonna go back
to earlier in the season. This isn't gonna help a

(01:13:34):
lot of people out. And then we're gonna have a
timeline of events, and then I'll everybody chime in. Let's
go back to the Colorado Series back on June second,
and then only five thousand, eight hundred and ninety four
people showed up in a sixty four lost. The Rockets
earned their tenth win of the air. Oh goodness, right,

(01:13:55):
But if that didn't get any worthlow June third, I
was a five hundred and eighty three showed up in
a three to two loss. Oh my goodness, how bad
does that get? It gets worse to fourth six thousand,
two hundred and sixty one, three to two loss. What
are they talking? And this is the stadium, by the way,

(01:14:16):
that holds thirty seven, four hundred and forty two. It
got bad? How bad did it get? During that Colorado season?
The Marlins lost money staffing the ballpark for those that
attended the Rocky Series. That was bad. Now let's go
ahead and talk about some of the trade deadline moves.

(01:14:36):
They did not trade Sandy Alcantara at the deadline. They
did trade Hayesus Sanchez for three minor leaguers. And they'll
tell you the way that roster changes. These guys are
probably about to make the club at some point or another.
On July thirteenth, Kyles Stowers had a three home run
game against the Oriels and did it by the fifth inning. Now,

(01:14:57):
I'm gonna ask Skip the question and we'll leave it
to him. How does it feel if you're a player, okay,
and that you go out there and you hit three
home runs against your old team when they gave up
on you.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
Yeah, you know, that's that's It's always tough as a
player when the team, you know, seems to you know,
for for lack of a better word, to kind of
move on from their interest in you or giving you
opportunities and their organization. Right, you just it it hurts
your ego a little bit, and it's a tough pill

(01:15:31):
to swallow. So I can't imagine, you know, hitting three
homers and then you know, obviously you're showing some potential
to blossom there as a player, and then all of
a sudden you're just you just don't have the opportunities anymore.
So that's really tough, you know, I think that although
I've seen a lot of guys in that situation go

(01:15:52):
on to bigger and better things and play better in
a different situation. So you know, sometimes it's a it's
a blessed in the skies, even though you're kind of
upset at the time. So we'll see what happens and
see how their kid's career pans out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Let me tell you one thing. He did make it
to the All Star Game. He did, and I'll tell
you he's a second Marlin's left handed hitter to hit
over twenty five home runs. He's doing pretty well. So
let's go back to the Colorado series. We talk about
two hundred and sixty one, but the Marlins average this
year in the thirty seven, four hundred and forty two
stadium is eleven thousand, six hundred and forty nine, which

(01:16:31):
is the third worst and major League Baseball third worst
and major League Baseball. The A's, by the way, we're
playing at Pseudor Health Park or averaging ten thousand and
sixty nine. I don't know much about the facility. I'm
not going to get into it, but at least you
can say that it is a loud atmosphere and we
know it's temporary. The Rays, on the other hand, are

(01:16:54):
playing at George stein Brenderfield. The attendance of past the
eleven thousand and two and six and they bring in
nine eight hundred and seventy two. Say what you want
about these smaller ballparks and temporary facilities, but it's good
when they're loud, even though they're a little bit smaller
and intimate. Unfortunately from Miami. Why am I bringing this

(01:17:15):
stuff up. You just drew one hundred and one thousand
for the Yankees and that whole Houston series. You're probably
lucky to get like thirty five forty thousand for the
whole thing, and the Astros are a heck of a team.
If that doesn't get more interesting, now is where it
gets even more interesting, and that's this. Let's summarize the

(01:17:35):
Braves series. This is a series they should have won.
I thought for sure. If you win against the Brains,
you're sitting very pretty first game, Marlin's lose eight to seven.
Josh Simpson takes the loss. He drops to two and
one Brian in August eighth, the Marlins do get a
win thanks to Edward Cabrera sixty six and five eleven.

(01:17:59):
K's all right, one up, one downstairs, I get it now.
The Saturday, in which Jen Bowall makes her debut. In
game one, the Marlins lose seven to one. Ryan Gusto
got the loss. He turns to seven and five. Game two,
the Marlins lost that one. Sandy el Kantara now drops

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us six and eleven, and then on Sunday, the Marlins
lose seven to one. Tyler Phillips gets a loss. He
drops the one on one. The Braves win the series
for to one. I've given you a lot, okay, I
did deliberately gave you a ton of information, so to
get one simple general answer out of everybody, and we'll

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start with clarkey.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Are the Marlins contenders or pretenders?

Speaker 9 (01:18:46):
They're pretenders and for all the reasons you just said, right,
I mean, I'd love to see them be successful. The
town's not ready for it. They have a gorgeous stadium
that no one's coming to unless visitors are coming, and
that kind of the market. It's hot, it's Miami, it's
the middle of summer, and everybody leaves or they go
to the coast. They've got other things to do. So

(01:19:08):
the team is never going to be the focus until
you win. In order to win, they're gonna need horses,
and they're gonna need money, and they're not spending that
and they're not getting them. So they're going to remain
in the pretender category for a while. And I think
what they've done is really special. I think it's awesome
and to do what they've done, and the hovering around
that five hundred mark is a really good tribute to

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the staff, the players that are there, the people that
are actually doing the job. But if you're talking about
the best teams in Major League Baseball and contending for
a World Series championship, they're not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Okay, Katie, You've seen them play a lot this year.

Speaker 8 (01:19:48):
I've seen them play a lot period. And are they
contenders or pretenders? That they're gonna be pretenders because they
don't spend the money. They so clerky. You're right. Are
they drawing attendance? No? Why? Partly because of where they
placed it. It's in Little Havanah. It's not a good neighborhood.
So if you're not fielding a really good team or

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playing a marquee game like a Yankees, you're not drawing.
You're not going to the games because I can sit
and watch it on TV and be safe instead of
going down to Little Havanah and watching it in person.
Now do I I've always liked baseball in person, don't
get me wrong, But it's just the neighborhood. It's not
I would. I would never go to a Miami Marlins

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game by myself, never ever, ever. And that's a true
tale right there, because I would feel safe going to
Detroit Tiger's game. I would feel safe going to Milwaukee
Brewers game. Depending on where they put the field. Some
areas are safe somewhere where they put Miami. I'm sorry,

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it's not safe. I would not go by myself now.
Is the team on the field trying, yes, but you
know every stretch of the imagination they are trying. They're
just not there yet though, and there's a lot of
pieces that they have missing. You know, Sandy's not pitching

(01:21:16):
like he used to and they didn't trade him, and
to be honest with you, you would have gotten more
now than you're gonna get because he's starting to age
at this point. So but yeah, we can we can
all say about how much you know their payroll is,
but there are other teams that have around the same payroll,

(01:21:37):
lower payroll and still are doing it. So it's just
a matter of their their pretenders.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
Okay, get yeah, they're pretenders right. There's there's just not
an air about them when they come to play, you know,
the opposing team, the even if they just swept the
Yankees or whatever, the other team is like, okay, well
they had a good series. This is baseball. That can

(01:22:02):
happen to anybody. They're still the Marlins. That's what everybody
on the field's thinking. Right when you're in your advance
meetings and stuff like that. Guys just make pitches. We're
a better team than them, so you don't feel that
threatened when they come into your ballpark or you're going
there to play. So you know, teams like that, it's

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really tough to be five hundred play five hundred baseball
at this point and step up and really make that
run because you're not intimidating people.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:22:35):
If the Yankees or the Mets were at five hundred
right now, I would say, hey, maybe there's still contenders,
because they can go on a hot streak and they
can get hot, and when they get hot, people get
a little nervous right when you're going into there, like,
oh man, the Mets are rolling right now, The Yankees
are rolling right now, they are, and we got.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Our hands full.

Speaker 7 (01:22:56):
When it's the Marlins or any of those other teams
in that ill, you're kind of like, well, they're still
the Marlins, and you kind of relaxed, you play a
little bit better baseball against them.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Cancy, I mean, nah, they're not there.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
They're not there yet. Not they're they're you know, they're
you know, they're they're about six out of the wild
but they're about six out of the wildcard at the moment,
which that's probably their best hope to get in the postseason.
But you know, if they want to, if they want
to get up there, they got a lot of work
to do because I believe there are several teams ahead
of them that are just significantly better that. You know
that I don't see the Marlins being able to top

(01:23:31):
I think that, you know, I've said this about the
Marlins for a very long time. Is you know, the
part of the reason is they don't they don't draw.
Is Number One, their stadium is just in an awful neighborhood.
I've just heard the most negative things about it and
the things that you see on the news in that area.
Number Number two, that fan base has been alienated for years,

(01:23:53):
not just by not just by Wayne Heiseega, but Jeffrey
Lauria and to an extent, Bruce Sherman as well. You know,
they're they're plenty mad about it, and there are plenty
of people too who didn't want that stadium built. It
also didn't help. It also didn't help maybe years back
that maybe people in the Cuban community did not forgive
Ozzie Gean for shooting his mouth off, you know, so

(01:24:15):
that also that also hurt you there and the fact
that they don't spend money doesn't help either. And they're
on MLB the Players Association's Grievous Grievous Grievance List, where
you know, the front office and the owner and at
the front office there and Bruce Sherman could say what
they want saying, oh, we're putting the money in other areas,
but you know, it definitely not it definitely is not
helping the wins in the losses department these days. But

(01:24:38):
they got some young guys, you know, like the Kyle
Stowers and Augustine Ramirez and other guys like that. They
got some young guys though, but you got it. You
gotta do it consistently. And the Marlins, we've seen them
just have a year here and there where they make it.
You know, maybe it's a World Series win, but it
but they're not. They're not there yet, and they they
got a ways to go before before they can start

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talking talking about champagne showers and postseason parades.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
Okay, Okay, go ahead, Rob, Yeah, you know I agree
with all that. Pretenders. Listen, they're better than I thought
they were gonna be this year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
I have to give them that. They are better than
I thought they were gonna be. But as far as
the stadium location, location, location, why did they build a
beautiful park like that in little Havana where people are
scared to go unless they win? Their people are not going.
Of course, when the Yankees are there, they're gonna draw
over one hundred thousand. That's that's anywhere the Yankees go.

(01:25:40):
But who's gonna Who's gonna go watch Miami really in
that stadium where it's located, when they're not spending money,
when they're not winning, even though, like I said, they're
doing better than I thought they were and they're in
they're in a tough division. Although right now with the
way the Mets are playing and the break as you
would know it, but they are in a tough division.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Okay, Trent, I know I had to leave in a
few minutes. Just in Fyi.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
By the way, there are only two Marlins and franchise
history hit double digits home ones in July, and by
the way, skip one of them happens to be Kyles Towers.
The other ones in Carlo Stanton. I just looked that
one out there. Trent. Will give you one more topic
to bite on, Okay, you're ready for that, yes, And
that's this And here's what we've got. The New York Mets.

(01:26:30):
Since June thirteenth, the New York Mets are eighteen and
twenty nine third worse in MLB. The New York Yankees
are nineteen and thirty worse in AL. Since June thirteenth,
Only the Nationals and the Rockies have records words of
the Mets and the Yankees. So, Trent, what are your
thoughts about the state of the Mets and the Yankees
and everybody else will have a shot at this? Four

(01:26:51):
fit well?

Speaker 9 (01:26:52):
The city of New York by being panic here like
this is not good. I mean, these are two these
are two really well be it team. So it's staggering
when you see that. You know, the underperformance, it's not expected,
you know, I'm sure that in the end, I think
they still have the merit the trade deadline, they've done this,

(01:27:15):
They've got the wherewithal to be contender. So I don't
think they're going away for say and I think you know,
Mickey alluded to it a minute. These teams get hot,
they'll roll up twenty twenty five of thirty games, and
they can do that. So They're not out of it
by any means, but it's it's staggering to see that.
I mean, the Tigers are kind of following that tradition also.

(01:27:37):
I mean, you know, it's it's been a kind of
a tail of two seasons for some of these teams.
And obviously there's a lot to that, but you know,
as a New York fan, and baseball is such a
big center of the city and everything else. With the
two great teams, I mean, no one's really bullish about
what's been going on since June. It's been a pretty

(01:27:59):
lousym or a baseball and they want to get back
to seeing good baseball and and and by the way,
New York loves fall classics, and uh, it looks like
the summer doldrums may keep them from it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Okay, Trent, real quick, why don't you let everybody all
it get ahold? You'll put your book after he after
he logs off, we're going to stay on the topic
with everybody else.

Speaker 9 (01:28:19):
Well, everybody, thanks for having me. Trent at leadership dy
dot com. You can reach me there. You can reach
me on the website Trent Dashclark dot com. My my
podcast winners find a Way and our new podcast, Winning Ways.
I am the author of Leading Winning Teams, and of
course you can reach me. I'm a growth guy help
a lot of organizations grow, so you can reach out anytime.
I always love teching baseball on one hundred and eight

(01:28:41):
stitches with this two live crew here. It's awesome, So
thank you for having me as usual.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
You're welcome to see you next Monday night, hopefully un
when something comes up. All right, all right, now there
are five of us, Candy. You know the topic, well,
your thoughts about the way things are going in New
York right now. Now. I talked about the Yankees nineteen
and thirty, the Mets are eighteen twenty nine.

Speaker 8 (01:29:05):
We've talked about how most Major League Baseball teams go
through streaks where they're doing well and then they and
it's a long baseball season. And let's face it, what
you want to do in baseball is you want to
be hot in September and going into October. So it's
not panic button yet, but it's getting close, because, let's

(01:29:28):
face it, they have their record is a little bit
behind some of the other ones, and their payroll is
up there, so the pressure and the other thing is
is the one thing I will say about the Yankees
and the Mets. The pressure's on them because they have
the payroll so high, because they're expected to do that.
That also puts a little added pressure on them, and

(01:29:50):
that makes it a little bit harder, you know, they're
I mean, I'm gonna put this out there, and I
know there's gonna be a topic later, Scott, but the
Milwaukee Brewers are doing really well. They don't have that
same pressure. They're playing free and fun and that makes
a difference too. And I think the Yankees and the
Mets need to get back to that because I think

(01:30:10):
right now they're just feeling the pressure of not winning,
and you know, the New York media is on them
and stuff like that. So but I don't think it's
time to put the alarm bells up just yet.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
All right, turnover the robber resident of New Yorker.

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
All right, let's start with the Mets. The problem is
the big hitters have not been hitting. Okay, the Mets
go as Lindor goes. Okay, Lindor's hot, the Mets are hot.
Nemo's not hitting, Lindor's not hitting, Soto's not hitting. When
Soto hits, he's been hitting a lot of solo home runs,

(01:30:46):
all right, and Alonso. The problem is they are not
getting hits with runners in scoring position. I keep talking
about this. It's been going on all year. Even when
they were winning in April and May, they were not.
They were not scoring a lot of runs. And that's
what the problem is with the Mets. So what happens

(01:31:07):
at the trade deadline? They go out and do what
they were supposed to do. All right, Sterns gets relief pictures,
he boasts, he boosts the bullpen. We're like, okay, you know,
we got Rogers, we got hells Lee. Great. They also
got Mullins from the Orioles, which I wanted. I was
talking for the past two months. Let's get Mullins. He

(01:31:30):
hit his first home run yesterday after the Mets. The
Mets blew a five run lead.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
They got swept two series in a row. Okay, went before.
They haven't won since the day before I went on
vacation here, that's how long it's been. Okay, that's the
problem with the Mets. The end, the Mets should have
gotten one more starting pitcher. I said that too. So
they're not hitting with the runners in scoring position. But

(01:31:57):
if these guys get hot, Linda gets hot and it
goes Nimo gets hot, Soto and Alonso, then everything changes.
And we don't remember this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
But it's not time to panic.

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
But it's starting to get late middle of August. They
gotta start hitting. We remember last year they started off bad,
they got magical towards the end of the year. The
postseason was great, and you know, hopefully they could put
it together, you know, the next week or so, because
they have to listen. They got a series against the Braves.

(01:32:32):
Now the Braves aren't doing great, but we know what
happens when the Mets play the Braves. Mickey knows what
happens when the Mets play the Braves. Okay, it's at
City Field, but they where they are playing great. But
they lost the series against the Guardians at City Field,
So the Mets have to start hitting. Same thing with
the Yankees. The Yankees pitching their bullpen Williams, I don't

(01:32:56):
know what happened. I don't know if Alonzo's home run
in the post season last year did something to Williams.
But he's not the same closer as he was, so
the Yankees, I think there's a little more panic. Chris,
my co host, he's already given up on it. We
thought there might be a Subway series. There might not
be a Subway series. The Yankees have to start hitting,

(01:33:17):
two and they have to start pitching.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
You know that they both have to start hitting.

Speaker 7 (01:33:23):
Though, Okay, skip, yeah, I mean, I agree with everything
that Candy and Rob said. Right, they're not hitting. If
you're not hitting, you're not gonna win. I think the
one thing I will say that the Mets have on
their side is at some point everybody's gonna kind of
progress to the mean right and start doing kind of

(01:33:43):
what they should be doing. And it seems as though,
and Rob, you can tell me if I'm wrong, you're
probably paying more attention to it at this time than
I am. But the good thing about you, we Candy
said it. Baseball is a game of streaks. You go
up and down, and when you're losing, it's kind of
advantageous to pitch bad and hit bad at the same time. Right,

(01:34:07):
if you're gonna lose, you don't want to pitch good
and lose because you're hitting is bad. And then all
of a sudden, your hitters start pitching or hitting good,
and then your pitchers start pitching bad and you continue
to lose. So you really want them to all play
bad at once. So once you come out of it
and they all start clicking like they should, now you
can really go on a run. I think the Mets

(01:34:28):
are kind of in that category where it seems to
me the Yankees might have a little bit of a different,
you know, problem on their hands. Right you got to
get some guys healthy and then see what happens. So
right now, you know, it's not it's not panic time, really,
although any loss in New York is panic city the

(01:34:48):
next day, but it's really not time to panic. I
think these guys, I think both teams are good to
have good enough rosters to kind of climb out of this.
And like Candy said, this is the most importan park.
You want to be clicking at the end of the season,
you know, that's that's the most important thing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
New York is about winning championships.

Speaker 7 (01:35:10):
It's not about just getting into the postseason or having
a winning season. It's about winning a World Series. If
you don't win a World Series, it's a failure and
you're not gonna win a World Series. Unless you're clicking
at the right time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
And not only that depends on you got the battle
of which team overspent the most to get the leaves
is really what you have. And then I'll even add
one little leg to it because i have a few
more things I want to talk about, and that's this.
Let me see what these numbers look like on August
thirty first, and then we'll see what they are then
versus what they are now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
I'll leave it at that. Do a few more top
cats get word.

Speaker 6 (01:35:47):
In on this, okay, So I'll start with I'll start
with the Yankees. I think part of it two is, yes,
they've been injured. It doesn't help though that they haven't
had Garrett call all year. I mean, you lose a
picture like that at the top of your rotation. I mean, yeah,
Max Reed done a good job stepping in there, but
he's no Garrett Cole. Because Garrett Coles has been the
best at it has been one of the best for
a very long time. And you lose a picture like that,

(01:36:08):
there's no recovery from that and there's no replacing them.
But you know, the Yankees, I think have done a
good job making do with what they've had. It doesn't
help that they lost Clark Schmidt for for till next
year as well. So losing two pictures, you know you're
gonna have problems if you lose two regular starters, two
regular top starters in your rotation. I mean, that's just
that's just the way it is. There's like it's really
hard to kind of work. It's really hard to work

(01:36:30):
around that. And you know, their bullpen has kind of
been a been a mess all year. I think Devin Williams,
to me, is one of those guys that when he's
done great on a smaller team like like the Brewers
for example, but couldn't hack it in the big time,
like he's going Devin and Devin Williams case he's going from,
you could probably call Milwaukee the country at this point

(01:36:51):
at this point and taking him to New York City,
where where it's just a stark difference between the two cities.
They're just that's just how they are. New York's a
lot more faster paced Milwaukee. You know, you'll hear about it,
but you're not gonna like be ridden about it day
after day after day. I'm sure. I'm sure when Skip
was driving to the Ballpark when he was managing the Mets,

(01:37:11):
he put Wfan on mute, no doubt, And you know,
I think you know, the Yankees bullpen has been a mess.
It hasn't helped that their trade deadline acquisitions aren't coming through.
And I think tonight though, hopefully is a good first
step because they did beat the Twins tonight. So we'll
see what happens with the Yankees, because you know, they
definitely have some guys who have been there and done

(01:37:32):
that before who I think. And they're also still holding
on to a postseason spot. So if you're holding the
postseason spot into September, you've got a chance as far
as the Mets go. As far as the Mets go, man,
I could have a field day on this one, because
there they've been doing. They typically this happens in like August,
in round August September for them, but it's happened. It's
been happening a lot longer than than I'm used to,

(01:37:53):
which you know, to given the amount of times it's
happened in August and September, they probably have more Hangman
nooses in their trophy case the world serious trophies. But
the Mets, they haven't really been hitting with runners on.
I mean, sure you get some individual you're hit, you
get some run here, run there, ei there. You know
that's problem number one. You spent seven hundred and sixty

(01:38:15):
five million dollars on Juan Soto to just be Juan
so so I mean, come on, and then your rotation,
it's not going deep into games. You got the bullpen,
no doubt. I mean, you know Edwin Diaz with one
hundred miles an hour, he I'm sure Rob, and I
know for a fact Mackey Callaway can attest, can attest
to a guy who can who can throw up, who
can throw Phoebe's out right off the mount. You know,

(01:38:37):
obviously Mick when he was there, he wasn't quite Edwin Diaz,
but still he had he had some stuff. And you know,
your stars aren't going deep. So that's taxing your pen.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
You know that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:47):
I think not having a true race hurts them, you know,
as well as because I think in today's game you
need that true ace. I mean, Code is saying goes good,
don't get me wrong, good, but he's not the same
all star caliber pitcher he was when he came in.
Solid pitcher, but not a guy i'd want I want
starting game one of a playoff series. You know, I'd
probably put him more towards the middle. And you know,

(01:39:08):
and also I think you know what it comes down
to is you know, this is you know there, It
just comes down to the fact their pictures aren't going
deep and they're big boppers, they aren't hitting. Although what
they have the Bets have that the Yankees don't have
is I think they have the better of the two lineups,
you know, on paper anyway, but their big boppers got
to hit. And right now, it seems like Pete Alonzo,

(01:39:31):
from his hot start early in the year's kind of
crashed back down to earth and As has gone back
to being swinging to miss Pete, and Juan Soto hasn't
quite come around. You know, Nimbo is just you know,
you know, you know, he's just mediocre. You know, he's
you know, he's not worth the money that they're paying him,
at least in my opinion. And you know, Francisco Lidoor,

(01:39:54):
I mean, this is the doubts that people have had
about him, and he's and the doubters right now are
are kind of right because this is where he kind
of I think crumples up. It happened earlier in the
year last year, and then he went on a hot streak.
Now it's happening when the Mets need him most, you know.
But they got they got to figure something out in
New York. Otherwise you know, you're going to be hanging
another rope in that in that trophy case.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Okay, let me go over a couple of things here,
back to the wives are going to go through rapid
fire a little bit. Okay, Number one, I have a
couple of topics I want to get to, including the Brewers.
Nick Kurtz had a three ninety five average eleven home
runs twenty seven RBI and Kyle star Wars three sixty four,
ten home runs twenty RB I or July Players of
the Month there, you know. You know, of course, Skip

(01:40:38):
and I and the rest of us talk about it.
Kyle Stowers had his three home run game against his
old team with Baltimore, So Kurtz and star Wars are
certainly getting the recognition both players in the month of July.
Any problem with that for either of you? Just say
yes or no? Any yeah, no, no, agree with those choices. Yeah, wow,

(01:40:58):
very good?

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Run all right, The Nationals return from the one solo
deal is making an impact. In twenty twenty five, they
ended up getting a return of C. J. Abrams, Mackenzie Gore,
and James Wood for three of the players in the
one sodo deal back in twenty twenty two. Will update
those numbers as time goes on. Anybody knows, what are

(01:41:21):
your thoughts about the preliminary nature of how all of
this looks right now? Rob?

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
You having the ideas of what you like with the Nationals?

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
Yeah, they got they got some good young bullpen players
back for Soto. I like, what who doesn't like Wood?

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Really?

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
I mean, come on, he has seventy seven RBIs, He
has one hundred and twelve hits. You know, Gore's having
a little little trouble right now. His era is about
four point h nine and he's five and twelve. But
you know he's playing, he's playing on the nets. And
Abrams is batting two sixty eight. He has twenty six

(01:41:57):
dolen bases and scored seventy one round. So you know,
they got back some good young players for that from
that trade.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Anybody else have anything to have, Skip, you have anything
else going to add about it?

Speaker 7 (01:42:09):
No, I'll just say this about you know, you trade
guys that are premier players like one Soto, you better
not mess the trade up, right, I mean, let's let's
be honest. If you mess that trade up, then somebody
needs to be fired in the front office. So but
it sounds like they got some good players. They probably
are playing the long game a little bit. And you know,

(01:42:30):
sometimes your key players or your premier players are your
currency to go buy other players and improve your club.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
And it sounds like maybe they did it anybody else.

Speaker 6 (01:42:43):
Yeah, A fun fact about that traders Eric Cosmer refused
to go to Washington, and Washington ends up and he
ends up getting sent to Boston and said and as
consolation they end up they ended up getting I think
I think it was Luke Boyd at the time, but
you know, San Diego knew what it was giving up
in Gore, who was pitching fantastically while he was over there.

(01:43:05):
I mean, you know, they you know, in order to
if you want to trade a premier talent like Juan Soda,
you better be get you better be right about it though,
otherwise you otherwise you're never going to no matter what
you do in baseball, you are never going to live
that down.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:43:20):
It's you know, obviously James would gosh, he's he's burst
onto the scene this year. He was an All star. CJ.
DRAMs kind of burst onto the scene last year, and
he's looking like a stud. Shame on Washington though, for
like not really being able to build around these guys,
because they got some pieces there that any contender would want.

Speaker 9 (01:43:37):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:43:38):
Obviously, obviously Gore has not nearly been effective in the
second half as he was in the first half. But
you know, I think kind of having to do it
all himself in Washington has kind of caught up to him.
But you know, gosh, they got some pieces there.

Speaker 8 (01:43:49):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:43:49):
It'd be a shame if they waste it, throw it,
because they those are pieces that any contender will want.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
All Right, we'll talk briefly about Justin Berlander that we
go to the Milwaukee Brewers, all right. Number one, the
most active wins among the active players is mister Verlander
two sixty three. Matchers are two seventeen. I think Kirshaw
last night Look was two sixteen. Derrett Cole won fifty three,
Chris Sale won forty three, Charlie Warton, Julia the Tigers
won forty three. Verlander recently ended a historic sixteen game

(01:44:19):
winless streak by fifteen five squirreless sendings for a Giants
and a ninety three winner with the Atlanta Braves. The
forty two year old at last I looked, was one
and eight. He's playing on a one year contract at
fifteen million dollars deal, and he signed in January. And
guess what the other day, just hit fifteen thirty five
hundred strikeouts, so very quickly, Candy, but here talks about

(01:44:41):
Justin Verlander. Okay, he obviously is hanging in there. He's
the last shot at three hundred.

Speaker 8 (01:44:47):
Well, you just gave a whole bunch of stats. He's
a Hall of Fame pitcher is Yes, he's on the
decline of his career, but he still got it and
people are still afraid of him, I think. So kudos
to him for hitting that thirty five hundred. I know
that he's only the tenth picture in history to do that,

(01:45:07):
so that's a very rare feat. So kudos to him
for that.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
Rob Yeah, I agree. I mean, when when the Mets
signed him, he was starting to go downhill. We know
that he aged great. I mean, he was great all
those years, and you know the Mets. The Mets made
some good moves when they traded him and Scherzer a
couple of years ago. They got some some decent returns

(01:45:33):
and he listened great picture. But he's up there, he's
up there in age, and you know pretty soon he's
gonna be he's going to have to retire.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
So skip you think he makes it to three hundred wounds.

Speaker 7 (01:45:47):
Yeah, you know, I thought exactly what Rob said. I
thought that at one point in time about eight years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
I think, right, it was like.

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
Oh what happened to Erland Or I saw him like
warming up out in the outfield and the ball just
wasn't coming out of his hand the same. But he
comes back and he wins Morsey Youngs, I think, and
it's just dominant for Houston. It was I'm just in
all going, how does this guy do it? So I
wouldn't count him out just yet. The guy still can

(01:46:19):
run it up there, ninety eight, and I think he's
gonna play.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
For you know, four or five more years if he can.

Speaker 7 (01:46:26):
He seems to be still a beast. He's he's now
healthy again. You know, he's had the Tommy Johns, and
I think you're gonna see him get to that three hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
At least he's gonna he's gonna die trying for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Great, great take. Sorry Eric, you have I'll just say this,
I hope he gets a three hundred. I'm blading. He
made the thirty five hundred strikeouts. Eric, you have the
last word that will end the show on the Milwaukee Brewers.

Speaker 6 (01:46:51):
Well, you know, I think obviously he's had a Hall
of Fame career. I mean, his twenty twenty two was
just out of this world where he has a Bucks
seventy five r in an era where where it's where
where we want to be favor and offense. But I
I don't think he does it. He's falling apart now.
He's kind of start. He's really hit the back nine
of his career. In my opinion, I think he's retired

(01:47:14):
and he doesn't know it yet, but he's you know,
he's got he's got to get forty plus more wins.
And right now he's pitching in a very pitch a
friend of the ballpark in San Francisco, and he's not
getting it done there. So you know the fact that
it's not happening there. I don't think it happens. I mean,
sure he wants to play Atwayst. Forty five, and I'm
sure teams will still allow him to because after all,
he's just gonna be a guy who puts butts in

(01:47:35):
the seat, you know, and more or less, more or
less a show pony for a team. And you know,
I think a team a good who needs good publicity
will sign him. But he's on the back nine at
this point. You know, at this point, I don't think
he gets it there because you know this, you know,
given how it's going in San Francisco, he's retired and
he doesn't know it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Well, like I said, I hope he gets the three
hundred at least thirty five breakouts.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Just you know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
The Detroit Tigers did get a series win yesterday against
the Angels. Prior to that, they lost six or seven recently,
and now they're one twenty one of.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
The first three series.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
They're in a two to one weather delay in Chicago
right now, Tigers are leading in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
See how that plays out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Final topic of the night. Milwaukee Ruers are hot nine
game winning streak. They face of Pirates tonight. I don't
know what the score is of that.

Speaker 8 (01:48:26):
One ten winning streak.

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
Okay, we'll go ahead. Candy said, you open your mouth burst,
you could talk about it.

Speaker 8 (01:48:33):
They won, they won seven to one today. What I'm
gonna say is they're playing with such they're having so
much fun. And I think that really is a testament
to Pat Murphy. I think it's a testament to playing
as a team. And if you I've read a lot
of things and I've about the team and about how

(01:48:55):
they they just love playing as a team. Even the
guys that were that came in after the trade deadline,
they welcome hom they're young, and they're they're exciting to watch.
I mean, they want ten in a row. They're best
in baseball right now. Uh, it's not even close. If

(01:49:18):
we look at their division, there's six games above the Cubs. Uh,
and that's their next closest. Uh. They're just they're having
a reason. And it's really great to see because they're
from a small market. And yes they're they're they're my team,
I get it, but they're from a small market and
they don't have the payroll that the Yankees do, when

(01:49:40):
that the other teams do, and yet they've been consistently
in the playoffs the last how many years. I love
to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Well, they spend their money wisely in that market, and
they draw a lot of people, all right, Rob.

Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
Yeah, I mean I agree with Candy. I I picked
the Brewers to win their division this year. They're an
excellent team. They do look like they're having fun. Listen,
they swept the Mets this week. Right, it was it
was a joke, So yes, it definitely was. But listen,
I still think that they're they're gonna win that division,

(01:50:17):
and you know they're They're an excellent team. I like them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Well, herey, we'll let skip go because I have a
feeling er it's gonna have a few words.

Speaker 7 (01:50:26):
But yeah, I I you know, I think that they
obviously make great baseball decisions there, and one of their
better decisions was to hire Pat Murphy once Craig Council left, Right,
they didn't bring in new people creating a different atmosphere.
They kept the bench coach, moved him into the manager

(01:50:47):
spot so that that unbelievable team chemistry they had would
still be there. You didn't want to bring in another
dynamic and and not know what you're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
So moving Pat.

Speaker 7 (01:50:58):
Murphy, who's in a amazing manager, amazing coach and kind
of that was under Craig Counsel was another genius move
by an organization that makes great moves with the money
they have, you know, I mean they they got a
first time manager that they knew was gonna have some
success because he came under the guy that was having

(01:51:21):
success when he was there. So they're saving money. It's crazy,
you know, they don't. It's just whatever they moves they make,
they work out. It's just what a great place to be.
Like Candy said, there's not a lot of pressure there.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
So you can just keep rolling.

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
You're rolling to New York or whatever, sweep a team,
go back, and there's just it's just it's everybody's having
a great time over there and loving the atmosphere and
that that leads to winning a lot of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Let me just say this before I turn over there
at number one there, Pat Murphy has passed highest the
Florida Atlantic University and as said, it was indeed a
seamless transition, so very jolly out. I wisha wall. He's
done to a job over there. Everybody thought with Council
left that the Brewers are in trouble now. They were
seamless transition. A lot of the coaches stayed on board.
Council I had to get his own coaches and seeks volumes.

(01:52:10):
All right, Eric, you got about three minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Say what you got to say, and then we'll be
able to go ahead and wrap up the show.

Speaker 6 (01:52:16):
Go ahead, Eric, Well, you know, it's it's been fun.
I mean, everywhere everywhere you go, people are wearing Brewers
stuff talking about the game. We're talking about the game,
including when you walk into a bar and the and
the rooms filled with smoke and you hear people talking
about it. It's a it's been fun to watch. They've
they've just they're the only team in baseball to have
multiple winning streaks of like nine of nine of eight

(01:52:39):
or nine or more. You know, they're doing it with
players that you didn't really hear about going into the season. Obviously,
keeping Pat Murphy there was huge because not only is
he a great manager, though, the guy's kind of quirky,
which is it's actually kind of funny. Actually, It's just
one of those teams that just you know, it's fun
to watch. They are just one of those teams where
regardless of what happens, you'll remember them because they were

(01:53:01):
that a fun team to watch, and the fact that
they go in there and come from behind three different
times against the Mets, including up including with including Blake
Perkins throwing a frozen rope from center field to William
Catreras to tag out. I think it was Starling Marte
to win. Then is Isaac Collins walk off home run yesterday?
And they're also showing that it's just never over for

(01:53:23):
them no matter what the score is. They amount have
come from behind wins they've had this year. It's just
never over for them, and that's what makes them so
fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
You haven't Brewer's on a roll winning ten and the
Rowan County and they get the Pittsburgh Pirates. So I
have a feeling that that streak could continue at least
for another game or two. So meanwhile, that does it
for this edition one hundred and eight, such as Baseball
Talk skipped, did we cover a lot of ground?

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Like I told you were tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
We certainly did. It was great, ready to get a
lot That was a great show, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Thanks for We're not done yet, just so you know
our debut. I think you're still on for this Saturday,
Is that correct, gap, Yes, sir, all right, we'll just
sit our debut show. We'll be talking Baseball with Shott
Morgan Roth and Mickey Callaway will be his new show,
and then we'll be doing another one after we get
our audio providers in tech looking forward to doing the show.
Eric will be on probably later in the month of

(01:54:17):
August and we'll be able to get going and will
the fourth spot will be an open spot for anybody
that wants to join us every Saturday morning. So we're
going to leave that fourth spot as a rotating spot.
So with that said, Candy Rob want you'll everybody quickly
know how they get a hold on.

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Right stuff, Eric real quickly let everybody know they get
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I think that I'm very, very excited to get this opportunity.

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Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
Bet you Scott, all right, thanks, well, a lot of
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Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
We had a lot of information tonight, a lot of
I mean I enjoy packing the show with a lot
of information. My primary responsibility to make sure we entertain,
educate and inform, and that's exactly what our goal here
is to do. Make sure that they can explain their
reach as well. So I'll behalf of Trent Clark, Candy,
I'm laying Rob Eric and the Skipper. My name is

(01:57:06):
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