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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Everybody welcome. Don't know an additional hundred eight such as
baseball talk. Well, we have a great group tonight. Believe me,
they come from college, they come from bros. And they
go back a long ways. Please be have coach Eddie
CARRIERI and the University of South Florida Athletics Hall of
Fame back on.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Glad to have you back, coach, Thank you, nice to
be here with you guys, thank you trying.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Glad to have you back as well.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Hey, everybody, nice to see everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He's got some rings. And my longtime teammate Bareyfoot. You know,
we work together for the Fort lauderdail Yankers Yankees and
we've been we've known each other a long time since
I was a puff and he got into manager. Glad
to have you on, Barry, we can't hear your very
own views. And we got Warren Brewster back on. He's
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he'll be here every Monday night. So for those that
want to see Warren, you can see.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Him here on the network and you're welcome. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And last but not least, we have Eric in Candy
as well, Eddie Pray. They're a long time no see.
Glad to see in the gat room. I have a
great group tonight and definitely some Philly interests in there
as well, So let's get to it. I know, and
he only has a short period of time. So, by
the way, Edie, I did look this up. By the way,
then there's a source that says that the Tampa Bay
Rowties have been sold with the Tampa Bay Rays. I
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don't know if they're going to actually go ahead and
move out of Bayfront Stadium, but I just want to
let you know that I tug that out when we
did that show a few weeks ago about it. I
just wanted to bring that to your attention. So what
are youre talking about them real real quickly being isotopic
that they're actually packaging with the Rays.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, first of all, my first instinct is to be
pissed because they took at Lang Field and made a
beautiful historic baseball field where I played American Legion baseball
into a soccer field, and so now I moved to Tampa.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
That wouldn't be good in my way of thinking.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, And then the second Tampa topic, I one hate
you real quick that were gonna go with the rest
of them, and in fact, everybody can talk about this.
How about that the Tampa Bay Rays did not have
a rain out in the twenty twenty five season. What
about you coaching surprise that they didn't have one.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You know, it's like, why we didn't have a hurricane
this year. It's either El Nino or La Nina. I
think it rains more when it's El Nino, And I
think we got lucky this year. And that's the only
thing I could come up with, because otherwise you can count.
You know that you can count on the afternoon thunderstorms June,
July and August and even in this September. But this
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year's been a lot different and we have been in
a lot Ninia so might have a lot to do
with it.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, we needed they needed it this year because Chocolate
canofield would have been able to handle it.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
They'll get it back that year, all right, eric An.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Any thoughts around the horn here, so to speak, in
no relation to the old show about the effect that
the race did not have any rain out will start
off with.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Eric Well, and hoped that they had that stretch that
they had that stretch late in the year where it
seemed like they were on the road for a majority
of it. I think that was built in there for
just in case that were to happen. But quite quite
impressive though, because I know during the summertime Florida gets
pretty rainy.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Candy, we had a drought for part of the year,
so we were really lacking the rain for part of
the year. So I can understand it, but good kudos,
because let's face it, who wants to plan an outing
and go to a game and then only for it
to be rained out?
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Lauren Well, I coached in the Florida State League and
also in the Gulf Coast League, so I spent a
lot of summers in Florida and it rained constantly. We
got rained out all the time, you know. I just
that was part of that was you just figured out
how you were going to play around the rain, you know,
and it was really difficult. We didn't weren't get a
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lot of work done early before game time. You know,
just a lot of times we just showed and go
just put our uniforms on and play it if we could.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, very Foot and I were in the Floridas they
lead together without you.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
Well, I think that if you could have bet that
they would have gone to season with that rain.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Now you've made a lot of money.
Speaker 9 (04:43):
I don't think it's that that that that that doesn't
happen very often in Florida, that's sure.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And laughing at least on the topic got turned.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, I think you know, baseball's hurry up and wait
right like it always is, and we wait on these
weather and we do all these things and you lose early.
To Warren's point, it's a challenge. There's one hundred and
sixty two games and I think it's about one hundred
and seventy six days for the season, so you only
got fourteen days off. So it always it always made
me challenged when you're on the road and you stay
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till nine, nine to thirty till they call the game
and they're like, oh, you've got a day off because
they canceled the game. Well, not really right, and then
you got to make that back up to Warren's point,
like oh now we got to do a split double
leather or something. So those fourteen days off dwindle to
about an average of one day off a month.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, well, well, the next topic that we're talking about
is Jeff Hoffin. Eric and Trent talked about it's away
and I think you did as well, right, Candy, So
we'll leave it to Warren Berry and Coach Cartier and
Jeff Hoffins says, I cost everybody in here a world
series ring net Jeff Hoofplin takes a blame after the
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game seven, yielding a Miguel rohotso run to tie the
game four four? So should he actually take accountability and
the blame Barry absolutely not.
Speaker 9 (06:07):
What happened to the other guys that gave up runs?
Why don't they takes me accountability? And that's just the
nature's beast. I know where Warren's gonna stand on the
book said, is uh, you know, look how many times
he saved there, But I just don't think that's uh.
I'm sure it was an emotional time for him, but
once he reflects back on it, it's part of the game.
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Sometimes you get you know, you throw zero innings and
other times you give up runs.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Just happened.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
He gave up a home run on a hanging I
can't remember the hanging slider or a hanging splitter, but uh,
those things happen.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, all right, Warn will turn her over to you
and we'll wait for the coach Kurtiery, are are you still.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
With a coach?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yes, sir, Okay, somehow we don't see unless you're screening black.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
All right, Warren, Well, it's a team game, you know,
And if they had scored ten or twelve runs too,
wouldn't e Mayne be talking about it. It would have
been after the fought, you know. But at the time,
in the moment, you know, when they had a four
to three lead going into the top of the ninth,
he shuts him down. They win the World Series, you know. So,
I mean, he's got the weight of the world on
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his shoulders, but he's used to that, you know, and
it's part of his That's what closers get paid to do.
Close games out and you know he failed. You know,
it was just it was just happened to me in
game seven, which magnifies it, you know, that much more.
But you know, it's it's a team game. It took
all twenty five of those guys to lose that last game,
not just him, coach.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Did oh amen to what Barry and Trandon both said.
So another thing is everybody remembers how the game ended,
but we forget how many men were stranded on base
or runners not moved over bullshit to the big part
of the field with a runner on third, a ground
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or the second were to score, to run whatever, all
those kinds of things. But the base running at the end,
that runner on third, not getting a big enough lead,
and not running through the plate on the force play.
You know, those things are also part of what happened.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay, very good, All right, let's continue on number one.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So let's so let's talk about a Division one program
and baseball that actually went out there and cut his
baseball program. I hate to see this stuff, I really
really really do. But Purdue Fort Wayne became it casually
amid budget times. So what are your thoughts weren't about
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a team like them cutting their but this program. That's
just too bad that baseball has to be victimized because
of it. As we all know, baseball, compared to some
of the other sports, is a sport where you develop
a lot of great prospect.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
Right and you know college baseball is it takes a
back seat to college football and basketball. Those are their
big money makers, and so you know, it's it's something
that had to go, you know, apparently, you know, but
it's a shame to see that for the kids. Now
they've got to scramble and find places to play, you know,
and that's it's a shame that something like that happens.
(09:22):
It happened close to home. At Sonoma State, a D
two program right by my hometown. They cut all their
sports everything, They cut everything down, you know, and it
just it's it's sometimes they just has to be done.
They just can't afford to put up with that expenditure anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, produce for Wayen it is too bad. So we'll
see where they go.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Very obviously coach in the Florida's State League and have
been everywhere where.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Your thoughts about this, well.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
You hate to see, uh, let's see a program get
taken out like that, because now it's the more and
more players are being developed in the in the college system,
and you know, there's less and less my big teams
out there now. So I think it's not good for
the game to lose lose progs right now, Wait that up.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Right? Yeah, I mean, you know when I was in
high school, Wisconsin cut their program in the day and
I was like shocked, man, Like that was a real
opportunity for another school. The best kid and of course
hockey is another revenue sport there that most schools don't
have as a revenue sport, so it made sense that
baseball had to go. It was also right in the
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middle of the Title nine era. The eighties title line
was alive, and well they had to balance that out,
and so baseball was a goal. They didn't cut softball,
so you know, you got that. But we don't have
women's football with one hundred athletes, so Title nine equals
it all out. So some of the men's sports have
got a given that and that's part of the deal.
And it's it's unfortunate to ever see baseball go. I mean,
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you remember when they cut it from the Olympics everything else.
It's all in America's pastime. I hate to see it
go from anywhere. And I hope it's not trending.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Past career.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Obviously, you coach at my alma Maunter here is the
South Florida. When you see a program I Purdue for
Walliams it cut, what's the first thing to enter your mind?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
The nil?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I'm sorry, I don't know what happened, but my
picture poofed out. It says, my MIC's working. I could
see you guys. Now they won't let me enter the studio,
but in any event, one of the coaches at the largest,
one of the largest schools in Florida told me that
they had fifty thousand dollars for baseball in NIL, whereas
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the University of Georgia had two million. So those schools
with several million dollars can buy players. It's free agency,
and those smaller schools can't survive budget wise, especially Title nine.
I'm glad all the women's sports are doing as well
as they're doing, but it hurts the baseball programs to
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not be able to compete with those guys that have
so much money in the in the NIL program.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Kady, Yeah, you know, I can say Title benefited some
of us women, but I get it, like there are
some sports that bring in the big dollars, you know,
the football, basketball is bringing in a lot of money.
Baseball just isn't. And you know, growing up and Trent,
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I was in Wisconsin, like I you know, I'm a
big Brewers fan, so I we have professional football or baseball,
but yeah, baseball teams, see didn't have baseball team at
the time Marquette, they didn't have fields there for them.
That have those teams and stuff like that. So I
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get it. Some schools can afford it, some schools can't.
The big money is in the big you know, the
big NIL money is in the big revenue programs, and
so it's unfortunate Baseball America's past time. But at least
there are the minor league, so there is a way
to get up into the majors.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Eric, I mean, unfortunately. You know, what it comes down
to is, you know, it's becoming more and more expensive
very year to run, to run an athletic department with
multiple sports. I mean, you know, the revenues are out
of control. NIL is ever changing. The college landscape itself
is is out of control, especially with the transfer portal
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and the kids being able to seemingly come and go
as they please. It's hard. I mean it's you know,
you can almost if you're if you're a small school
on your you can almost count on your best player
transferring out. It's guaranteed he's going to try and make
it at a higher level like Division one, because he
proved he can play at the college level. But what
it comes down to is, you know, these schools, you know,
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it's it's just comes down to expense. Baseball is not
a revenue sport compared to basketball, and compared to basketball
and football, and in order to keep and what they
can't just you know, cut, you know, not revenue revenue
women for it's just because of Title nine. So baseball
ultimately takes it in the teeth. That's just the way
it is.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
All right, Well to watch we have another topic that
we're moving through the show real well. Albert Wols had
a nine and a half hour interview with the San
Diego Frores. Yet the Podres have hired Craig Statement as
their new head coach. Would did Pools and the Padres
talk about nine and a half the guy doesn't get
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the job, coach, What do you think you could be
talking about other than the team?
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
I mean, I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But I loved him as a player, and I loved
how simple his hitting mechanics were, and I believe most
hitters should try to emulate his mechanics and they'd have
a lot more success than lawn changle and all the
other bs that's going on now.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Eric, I mean, that was a surprise to me because
I thought, for sure after that interview he had a
real good shot at get at getting that job. I mean,
the players in given the given the problems within the clubhouse,
I can guarantee you he would have had he would
have had the buy in from day one, because everybody
in that clubhouse saw him play. I mean, especially Machado
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and Katis Junior. They for sure saw him play. But
you know, I don't you know, I don't know what
the concern was. Maybe it was, you know, something he
said or how he was going to run things. I
know that, you know, aj Prolla, the hard guy, A J.
Proba is a hard guy to work for. And you know,
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I think just what it came down to was just
he wasn't the right fit. And I think they just
found that out within you know, nine and a half hours, Candy.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
You know, it surprises me because as I'm in business
and I do interview people, I can't imagine, like it
doesn't take me an hour to know if I'm going
to hire somebody or not. It's quicker than that. So
to have an interview nine and a half hours, just
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what and to think that nine and a half hours
and you still don't get the job surprises me? Right,
you wonder what you like, and then you wonder, like
what did they take from that and are they going
to use like if he'd go coach someplace else. So
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that's just what comes to my mind.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Weren't I don't know, I could talk nine and a
half hours, but my god, not get it?
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Yeah, that really it's mind boggling, you know, to think that.
You know, they hire Craig Staman with no managerial experience,
and Albert Poulholz, who had a great career, you know,
not that that really matters as far as managing is concerned.
But in nineteen eighty we won the World Series when
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Dallas Green took over, who was an ex pitcher, And
you find your best managers are pitchers and catchers because
they're the ones that you know, basically run the game
the other position players, so you know they're out there,
but the catcher sees the game from a whole different
perspective than the other players, you know. But I was
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really shocked at Stamen and only being forty one years old.
But that's where the game's going is is younger. It's
getting younger all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Green by thirty three. I'm too young for these people.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I don't know maybe you are, maybe or not, but
you're gonna learn some regardless, Okay, very.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
I think it probably came down how are you going
to control poo hosts?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
You look at who they hire nowadays, it's whoever they
can control. M okay, right, what are they gonna tell
pool hosts? Could be what pool host wants to.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
Look at the fact that pool hosts that they're they're
real superstars. There are Latino players. He would seem like
the perfect guy with them. But I think it's all
but down to control. You look at who's who, even
the Roberts who. I've never been a big Robbers god,
but I thought he managed the game seven unbelievably. But
he's controlled by the front office. So I mean, if
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they can't control you, they're not going to hire you.
That's what it boils down, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
No, I think you're right. It's true.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
They're probably looking for somebody that they obviously well Number
one as I am understand it, he used to play
for the Padres anyway, so now he probably had a
foot in the door there and like or you guys
have said, pictures and catchers tend to be the best manager.
So you had two things working in your favorite But Barry,
I'm with you all the way on that, I really am.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Whols is not well.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
He probably wants to run his own show, and the
fact that he doesn't have any managerial experience doesn't help
his cause any great points. All the way around, Barry
appreciate it. Okay, so we'll turn it over to Trent.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I'm truly triggered by this, and it upsets me because
in the nineties I did this twice.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I went in and order interviewed. I actually interviewed to
the padres for over three hours. And by the way,
you're giving them all this data trying to sell yourself.
Three hours is a lot of time and data to
find one point that triggers that they don't like about you.
They'll fixated on you and then they'll get you.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
All the information was good, but that one thing, you know,
I don't know if we can live with that. So
that I learned that in one lesson, and then in
the second one, which I will not mention this team.
They called me back for a two hour interview, called
me back for another three hours. I sat down with
the manager of the club and the general manager, and
they grilled me for three plus hours, all sorts of data,
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How I done it? How is the young guy?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
How have you done?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
And created these athletes injury free and world championship teams
and blah blah blah. And then you know what they did.
They took my data and hired from within another coach
and grabbed all that data. I think that's total trash.
I think this is exactly what they did with pool
Holes and exactly what Barry said. They gabbed him for
a bunch of data and download and feedback of information,
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and then they hired somebody who they can tell what
they need and when they need to do it because
our pool holes to various point, he's made his money. Man,
he's going to be a guy and he is a
guy of ethics and principle and he is not going
to compromise for anyone. And I think, and by the way,
in nine and a half hours, that might be the
one thing they learned and said, well, I loved all
the information, but this one thing we can't have. And
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now he is exposed to all this data in nine
and a half hours, and they're only going to have
to pull one thing that they don't like, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think it's inevitable that he'll get a job. I
just don't wear one of the things. What do you think, Warren,
do you think he'll eventually get a manager job?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, right with his background, yeah, the way,
the way he's related to the press, and the way
he's related to everybody in baseball. You know, he's a
great ambassador for the game.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
No question.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
One of the most intriguing no hitters from a person
that I've seen in history, and I think we can
all appreciate. This occurred on September fourth, nineteen ninety three,
when Jim Abbatt tossed the eighth no hitter in Yankees
franchise history. The former Michigan will Reing product, as everybody knows,
only pitched with one arm. But here thoughts about a
one arm no hitter, Coach carteriery.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
One of the most spectacular things I think I've ever seen.
You know, I remember when it happened and Robin Roberts,
and Roberts was the coach at West Point, and Danny said,
that's that's because his mechanics are so good. And I
thought of that, and I'm like, amazing, to be able
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to throw a pitch, put the glove on and still
feel a comebacker.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Just it's an amazing feat.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I know, I know you have a hard out coach.
You want to let everybody go to get hold of yet.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Sure, my name Eddie Cardiery, number thirty three, Just Eddie
Cartiery three three at gmail is my email and if
I get an email, I'll send you my phone number. Guys,
and I want to take up much time to the show.
I did want to ask Barry Scott if I could,
and Trent good to be on with you again. Very
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impressive background that you have and getting to know you
from our last show. But Arry, with the Expos, were
you ever with Andy mcgaffigain, Maybe with the Yankees, even
Andy mcgaffigain, Larry Parrish, those teams.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Well, Larry Parish. Larry Parish and I were very good friends.
So yeah, with the Expos and mcgaffigain, I remember him.
I can't remember which team it was. Sometimes I lose that.
I do want to say this about a couple of
things you've said tonight, Hey, the running through the plate.
I haven't heard anybody say that except you, and I've
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been thinking I was talking my son about this. I said,
you know, if the third base coach, because of the
rules they have today, said look, if there's a play
to play, which is going to be the balls in play,
run through the plate, don't slide into play because you
can't really take out the catcher anymore, you know. And
I can't believe nobody. You're the first person i've heard
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say and did you teach that when you were when
you were coaching, because I've never.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Heard it talk talk to anybody before.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
And in the way the games played today, that is
truly something you should be the coach should be telling
them run through the plate, run through the plate, don't slide.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, and it can occur at second base too, I
guess on a force out. But the other thing is
he just didn't have a very big lead. I mean,
the rule of thumb get off as far as the
third baseman.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Is off, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And no, he had a very short lead and not
very good instincts to react when the ball was hit.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Well, and you know the lead is, you know, the
secondary lead there. You can make up for that initial
lead if you have a good secondary But the running
through the base thing. I think that would have made
all the difference in the world. But obviously they were
just not destined to win that World Series because everything
that you.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Know, it got, the Dodgers got every break there was
to get. It's just one of those things, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And as they say, a game of inches, and that's
proof right there, right.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
Well, I think there was the longer find for.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
The catcher too. You you must have had.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
On it to keep dragging on the plate there, because
just imagine what would have happened if they overruled that
play and the World Series ends with somebody overruled the
play and the play that would have been disastrous.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yep, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I love the dialogue between you guys, so hopefully we'll
see more of that down the road. So but h
but anyways, coach, I hopefully i'll see you in a
few weeks when I come return to Tampa and Barrington
and I can see every week and eventually we're going
to get together in North Carolina, that's for sure. So meanwhile, meanwhile, coach,
thanks for being out an. I know you have a
heart out so glad you're able to join this group tonight.
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And as we continue on and will definitely be in
talk to you. Let me know what you want to
come on. Our only baseball options just you know, coach
or Mondays and Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
That's all we do.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
We have other things that we do, so keep in
mind that's either Monday or Saturday.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Let me know whatever you want, We'll make it work, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Coach, Thanks guys, Scott Candy, thank you all very much.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Look for to working with you in the future. Thanks
a lot, Thanks, good night.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right all right, so with that said, let's go around
and talk about the Jim Abbot no hitter. Barry, what
are your thoughts about the Jim Havebitt no hitter? That
was just unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I got to see him when I was coaching with
the with the White Sox, and I got to see
him pitch and the amazing thing was just to transfer
that glove from his you know, from his pitch in hand.
I guess hit it under his arm. I got to
remember exactly how he did it. But it was unbelievable,
you know, just that alone. He had had good stuff,
(26:37):
not great stuff, but good stuff, and just be able
to do what he did was just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
Great.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, you know, I'm a Michigan kid, right, so love
Jimmy Abbott. And of course I coached with the Angels,
so Jimmy's around all time. Not only was this guy
a very good pitcher, probably not a Hall of Fame caliber,
but you know, he was high quality major league pitcher
and obviously overcoming some of the series adversity. The E
sixty on ESPN talking about the story it's called Southpaw.
(27:10):
I watched that inspirational. I want my kids to watch
that because I think, as good as a player of
Jimmy Abbott, I would rather my boys grow up to
be the man that Jimmy Abbott is because he's an
incredible human. He's a great guy. Couldn't happen to a
better guy to go out and get a get a
no no for the Yankees. And he's an incredible player
(27:31):
and pitcher. But he's an incredible athlete. He's not a
small dude, he's a big dude. And you know, high
school basketball player, quarterback on the football team. This guy's
an athlete on a flint and he's no joke. And
of course, you of m wouldn't be taking a flyer
on the guy if he couldn't play. Had a pretty
pretty great MLB career, not Hall of Fame caliber likely,
(27:52):
but very solid. So it's good to see. It's good
to see the big win for the good guys.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
One of the features burying Warren that we're going to
talk about a lot will be no hitters in the past.
I really like going over no hitters because they're memorable
moments in MLB, and I thought that this would be
an interesting one reflecting back on Jim Abbott because of
the unique way that he did it, the fact that
he only had one hand, and so as everybody talks
about the transfer to glow, so between that we'll have
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non sports topic to lighten things up, break up monotony
a little bit, and I like to keep those light
and real.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So all right, Lauren, what are your thoughts about Jim Abbott.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
Well, it's phenomena laughingly, you know, and he's an inspiration
to all people of all walks of life, you know,
just you know, for what I've never had the fortune
to have met him, but I just to see the
type of person he is and what people say about
him is just you know, phenomenal. You know, he's a
great human being. You know, it couldn't happen to a
(28:51):
nicer guy. You know, it's and it's again inspiration for
for everybody to see somebody, uh, you know, to be
able to have the ability to throw a pitch and
be able to transfer and get the glove on his
hand because they've come back at the picture. It's screamed
at one hundred miles an hour. Boy, that's if it's
coming back at you, you're getting out of the way
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of it, you know. And he should have presence of
mind to be able to put his glove on and
do everything and be able to feel the ball. Was
a good fielder, Katie.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
So to Trent's point, like, he's just inspirational. So what
he's he said is his disability inspired him to work
harder than most. As a kid, I really wanted to
fit in, Abbott says on his website about growing up
with a disability, sports became a way for me to
gain acceptance. I think this fueled my desire to succeed.
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I truly believe that difficult times and disappointments can push
us to find abilities and strengths we wouldn't know existed
without the experience a struggle and it talks about how,
you know, he would rest his glove on the end
of his right forearm. After releasing the ball, he would
quickly slip his hand into the glove, usually in time
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to field any balls that a two hunded pitcher would
be able to field. Then he would secure the glove
between his right forearm and torso slip his hand out
of it, remove the ball, and then usually in time
to throw out the runner. And he said a lot
of teams tried to exploit his feeling disadvantage by repeatedly
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bunting to him back in the day. So for him
to throw a no hitter is just I watched it.
It was phenomenal. I mean, he did play with the
Brewers for the last year of his you know, and
at that point, if all of you remember, he played
in the National League, so he actually had to bat,
which was unusual because he played most of his career
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in the American League, you know. But he actually got
two hits out of his twenty one at bats. So
kudos to him. He was he was an inspiration.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Honestly, that's a great stat. Candy like two his thirty
one at bats with one and that's unbelievable. Close Berry,
You that's what you have to look forward to.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Barry.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I'm gonna come up with all kinds of off the
wall things my man, all over the map, and I
guarantee somebody like you and I and Warren and try
a lot of his older guys can appreciate some of
the stuff I'm gonna throw at you every Monday night.
So Barry, I'm so glad that we're you and I
and Warrener teammates as well as everybody. But the fact
that you want Warrener teammates again the pretty cool stuff,
(31:32):
all right, Eric.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Well, the amazing thing about it was, you know he
you know the team that he faced, which was the
Cleveland Indians. They weren't they weren't quite what they became
at that point. They were kind of on the up
and up at that point. But still you you have
many ramirors in there, Carlic Biagra, Kenny Lofton. I mean,
that's no, that's no joke of a lineup. I mean,
they were all starting to start coming to their coming
(31:56):
to their own at that point. But the fact he
did it with one arm is truly amazing. And you
could probably point out to that moment. It was about
nineteen ninety three. The Yankees weren't really what they are
obviously now. I mean now nowadays, you know, you see
the records, you'd think you'd think you'd think the sky
was falling today, but not that, but that you could
probably point that out to that moment being a turning
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point for the for the franchise of the hole that
had been kind of stuck in a black hole for
for a long period of time as because next thing
you know, nineteen ninety four, they're starting to turn it around,
and they had a lot of success and probably would
have they probably would have been competitive in the postseason
had it not been for the strike in ninety four.
But next thing, you know, when Jim after ninety four,
(32:40):
when Jim admits no longer a Yankee, they're back in
the postseason. And then after that, you know, we all
know the rest.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Two things of that man. One, I gotta say, like,
first of all, this pre Jeter era, right CATSI he
was just drafted in nineteen ninety three and became a
September call up in nineteen ninety five, was on that
playoff roster at that point. The other thing I'll tell
you about uh South Paul. You know, Jim Abbott's really
calling card is his charitable work with people with disabilities,
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Like he takes all his time away from that field.
He meets with kids. The parents just write letters about
the love for what Jim Abbott has shown kids worldwide.
I get choked up talking about it, like that guy
has told these kids, Hey, listen, I did it, and
you can do anything you want. You want to play
the piano, you can do that with one hand. You
(33:32):
can do these things. And he he's if you could,
if you can watch that and not crye like you're
a better man than I am. It's it's awesome, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, well, I mean you think about the pre Derek
Jeter Don Madley would have had a championship ring if
we're gonna go that far, well, I mean, I mean,
really Peter time would have had his championship instead of
wait forever just to get there with the Blue Jays
to begin with. Then yeah, again, I remember taking note
of the the la A Jols obviously, and what he became.
Once you go to New York and the Yankees and
(34:04):
bury Out and all you played there. Once you go
to the Yankees people know who you are because of
the market that you're in. You know, it takes you
to a different level when you played there at least
a year or two. Otherwise nobody really knows about you.
And a lot of places out and back then it
was more of the Yankees. When you agree with that, Barry.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Oh, yeah, that was the Yankees.
Speaker 9 (34:22):
I mean, you know, in most cases, you can have
a mediocre career anywhere else, but in New York it
looked like a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
So of course, what I mean, let's face it, once
you hit the Yankees, you wear the pin. Right, people
know who your name is. So we're gonna go to
our first non sports topic of the night. Then we'll
go to the station break, and then we'll go to
a feature topic of the night, and this. You guys
are gonna love this one. I really thought deep and hard,
since there are a few of listener are over sixty on
this group here, and that's this Okay, there are now
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over ninety five thousand people in Japan who are more
than one hundred years old. People hundred years old. Ninety
five thousand people, mind you, Okay, the actual number ninety
one and eighteen that's the highest on record, according to
the Ministry.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Of Health, with women making up eighty eight per sat
of the total of the total amount.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Now, back in nineteen sixty three, and only one hundred
and fifty three people in the Cold Country were over
one hundred years old.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
My god, can you believe that?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Bury all those people that are over one hundred years old,
all ninety five thousand of them. I'll be a women.
I mean, I don't know what they do out there.
That's a lot.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
Well, having a nearly ninety eight year old father who's
still around, I can't see that it does happen.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
So, you know, they have a different diet.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Our diet in this country is you know, is the
biggest problem we have. We you know, we we feed
our people poisoned and we wonder why they stay sick. So,
you know, I live on a farm now, and uh
might I have two grandkids, So I'm trying to have
a sustainable farm life here and grow our own foods
and vegetables and things of that nature, because I think,
(36:14):
I think our food supply is brutal, just the worst.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Interesting boy, Yeah, you told me you lived on a farm.
How do you like farm life?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Well, I'm not.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
I'm more of a gentleman farmer, but I do have people.
I do have people around here that are real farmers
that help out. So uh, but you know, we're we're
trying to do a sustainable farming. Have own our own
chickens and hogs and cows and stuff. And the problem
is that these kids they start loving the animals and
(36:50):
they don't realize that they're going to be on their
plate one day.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's pretty good. I don't think it could top that up.
I'm not going to try. That was awesome. I got
to come up with more of these interesting topics that
you just really hit that one out of the.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Part on atended great stuff Berry, all right.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Trent, Yeah, I'm right with Barry. I mean, this is
a cultural thing. I think Japan is poured into their
people being healthy. They have a culture that they want
health and they promote it. They have reduced and mitigated
bad diets, approving bad foods and distribution of bad things
(37:32):
for their people. You know, it's nice and refreshing to
see a government that's actually looking out for their people.
So I'm impressed with Japan. And then of course the
results are in and that's a pretty staggering statistic from
nineteen sixty three to nine, you know, a heck of
a fifty sixty year run here on Japan on sustainability
(37:53):
and health and wellness. And it's good to see. And
nothing that we couldn't do here in America. It's just
whether we'll make those commitments.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I need five.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Eighty percent women, and back then you only had one
hundred and fifty three people. It almost seems like a
lot of his paintings. I don't know, Warren trying to
make some sense of this one, because I'm struggling to
do it.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
Well. Everybody and the life experiment you see, for everybody
has gotten larger or longer as the technology has gotten better.
But like just like what Barry said, you know, you
are what you eat, and if you eat garbage, you
don't don't expect to live long, you know. And look
(38:35):
at smoking. People have quit smoking, you know. Now tobacco's out,
you know, So it's it just everybody, And it takes
a little time to change people's minds, you know. But yeah,
I definitely watch what I eat, you know, without question,
wet organic as much as we can.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, you look fantastic. The last time I saw you
know where you're at. You look fantastic. You're a show
as attacked.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
The oldest person in Japan is one hundred and fourteen
years old, and yes, she is from Yama Koreama, a
suburb of the city of Nara. Part of the reason
why they the higher life expectancy is mainly attributed to
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fewer dusts from heart disease and common forms of cancer,
in particular breast and prostate. They have low obesity rates,
a major contributing factor to both diseases, thanks to diets
low in red meat and high in fish and vegetables.
They said. As increased quantities of sugar and salt crept
(39:48):
into the diets in the rest of the world, Japan
went in the other direction, so with public health messaging
successfully convincing people to reduce their salt consumption. But it's
not just diet. Japanese people tend to stay active into
later life, walking and using public transportation more than elderly
(40:10):
people in the US and Europe. And I would say
for sure, like if you think about it, how many
people here in the US walk anymore? Or you know
you live further and further away you live in these suburbs,
and so you have to drive more places, whereas if
you lived in more cities and condensed areas, you would
(40:30):
walk to the grocery store, you would walk here and
you'd walk there. And as the US has grown, I've
seen less and less of that.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Thanks Marvin. Let's see her in chat room as well.
Marvin Paul everybody, in case you don't know who he is,
is a big distributor on inside the pit tent and
also in the Sports Exchange. He's one guy that's come
to throw a system bury. I'll say you one thing.
He's learning the broadcast podcasting business. And this guy's a
quick study. He used to go ahead and play for
the Green Bay Packers, I think, right Candy, as well
(41:02):
as a lot of other places. But he's a big
USC trojan for a lot of people out there. Marvin
is one of my favorite people on the network. All right, Eric,
make it quick. We'll go to a station break. Well,
you know, we'll talk about our feature topic before TRNK
gets off.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Well, it's you know, I mean they you know, unfortunately,
you know, being the America is not the healthiest country
in the world, and everyone else around US seems to
have found some way to get it right. In Japan
definitely one of those countries, judging by their life expectancy.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Great softwar at Candy Station.
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Speaker 1 (42:44):
Or a feature topic of the night, it's forecasting emailb's
top biggest boond shells. And we'll start with could you
see any of these happen? I'm going to run through
a list of players. According to Bleacher Reports, Joel Ruter
is the source in Japan, you got money Taka Murakami's
contract to see two hundred million? Can you see that happening? Eric,
(43:05):
Yes or no?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Yes? Because you know, generally when you're get when you're
getting a guy from overseas, he's going to command a
lot of money. I mean, unless you're unless you're Roki Sasaki,
who was who was still young, and he was still young,
it was still technically under control by his his team
in Japan. You know, then then you could kind of
mess with it a little bit. For the most part, though,
(43:27):
you're getting these guys from overseas and expecting them to
do what they did in Japan to over over here
in America. Now, what's you know? Nowadays, you know, you're
not really taking the chances like you used to. It's
no longer really a dice roll, you know. Now we
have analytics which will tell you whether this guy can
is gonna do it, whether this guy is gonna do
what he did in Japan here or not. So it
(43:49):
makes it a lot easier. So you don't have any
have any swinging missus any anymore, like like you used
to a lot of the time, like the Fukudomes and
the and the Cosmatsuis of the world. It's but you
know now, but yeah, so I could see Murakami commanding
two hundred million. I mean, he's he's a power hitter,
and you know, he's I think at one point he
(44:09):
hit fifty plus bombs, and you know, and and teams
teams like that. It's all about the home run ball
these days, and this and this league will will do,
will go above and beyond to find the most power
that they can to make that happen. Although team's gotta
be aware though, this guy, to me is is just Joey,
is just the Joey Gallow of overseas. He's either gonna
(44:31):
be a home runner or bust.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Can't he I'm.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
Gonna make it short and sweet. Yes, I can see that.
I can see that happening, you Warren, Oh, definitely.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
Yeah. I mean the way they're they're spending money.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Now.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
You know, there's a lot of teams. If he can
hit home runs, they want to they'll take him. You know,
I know San Francisco Giants, they're looking for hitters. They
can't get hitters to sign to go to play in
that ballpark. Uh you know. So, I mean he's he's
just uh a matter of I guess a lot of
teams have to have that money slotted for the overseas players.
(45:06):
But I'm sure he's going to command a lot of money.
You know, two hundred million is not within not within
reach for him.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
You Berry? Do you what do you think? Berry? Berry?
Speaker 9 (45:29):
Yeah, they pay for power, so you know he's got
a chance at it. I don't know enough about him
other than I know he's a power guy. And I
think he broke the home run record seasonal record.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
Over in Japan. Uh So, yeah, I can see it.
Speaker 9 (45:44):
And and you know a lot of people we talk
about baseball and how much they're paying, but you know,
the three three major sports. They're the lowest percentage of
revenue of all the sports, so there's still room for
salaries to go up.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
And if they say a guy like him.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
For ten years for two hundred million, that's twenty million
dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
That's not a big number anymore.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Okay, Oh.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Yeah, for me, it's interesting. It's gonna be interesting to
see a Japanese player, especially in Boston. I think this
is more of a business transaction. We all know they
pay for power. Everybody said it, here's that matters. I
think the business side of this is that they love
the Japanese players on the West Coast because they can
still get the TV audience out of Japan. They've got
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audience dollars Japan. Japanese folks are going to watch their
heroes come over and compete with the best. It's gonna
be interesting that they'll stay up and do the Boston
deal because it's an issue. You're gonna to get up
really early in the morning to watch the Boston Red
Sox on TV. If you're in Japan and you're gonna
start watching your superstar at five thirty am and see
(46:51):
him play ball in Boston, that'll be an interesting thing
to see the level of commitment in Japan. But they've
proven with the TV contract in La Rochers and what
they've done with those two Japanese players that there is
money in it, and I think that will subsidize the
two hundred millions. Will take business decision. There's no doubt
in my mind, he's gonna get it all right.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Next one Red Sox players swap will you're Nombrell and
Mitch Keller. Eric briefly, as much as you can, you
see this one.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Happening, Yes, because they got Roman They got roman anthe
you're just finished third and Rookie of the Year voting.
And William braw He's got offense at times, but it's
very sporadic, like he's very very streaky. So but Boston,
Boston needs pitching and Mitch Keller can eat some innings.
Speaker 7 (47:40):
Andy, you're gonna make it short and sweet. Yeah, I
can see it happening. You just never know these teams
when you think that they wouldn't swap. They need whatever
they need, They're gonna go out and get especially some
of those, uh, some of these teams. So yes, I
could totally see that happening.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Okay, what about you lorn.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
Yeah, definitely, you know, without question, Boston's you know, taking
a back seat right now to the Yankees, and they
don't like to do that. And Toronto w also, so
they they've got to make some moves, you know, and
pitching is one of the things that they need to
shore up.
Speaker 9 (48:16):
Right.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
This decision, right like, this is the money decision. And
it feels like today all decisions come down to money
in Pittsburgh. So you know, if they if they can't
seem to keep them and they can get something for it,
they do. And that's that's the nature of the Beasts today.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Okay, I'll wait for Barry and comeback, and meanwhile, we'll
just keep going moving forward. Okay, And and he's trying
to return, so we'll just keep moving on and go
from there.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Okay. So let's see this the Hiris swap.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Uh, the Phillies swing a blackbuster deal for anybody I
haven't called on well so far, okay, just making sure
that Barry's trying to get back on. Okay, So let's
go back to Phillys sling of blockbuster deal for Adlie Rutchman.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
We'll start off with you at.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Eric, Yes, because they're not going to bring back J. T.
Real Muto. He's a free he's a free agent now
and he's been he's showed that that his his best
his best days are starting to be behind him. And
Adlie Rutchman is is going to be on the trade block.
Not sure if it's going to depend on how much
Baltimore is asking for, but I think right now he's
(49:34):
kind of on the by he's on the by low
right now because because his values diminished significantly, because he
had a bad year where he was where he wasn't
hitting the ball and he was hurt for a majority
of the year. And they signed Sam Samuel Bassalo kid
to an eight year extension. So evidently they believe in
him more than they do, believe more than they believe
in Rutchman at the moment. So yes, Philadelphi and also
(49:55):
Phi Philadelphia believe it or not, quietly has the prospects
to make that happen. Dave dump Oski has yet to
really make make the splash that he's known for making
everywhere else. He's kind of been a very very patient
each trade deadline and also even during the offseason. When
do we think he's going to make a splash? And
he doesn't. But since he's going to need a catcher
and he's got he's got a good one that I
(50:15):
think can bounce back, who's got a track record for success.
I have no doubt that he's going to want it.
He's going to at least try and and swing a
deal for Adley Rutschman.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
We got very bad, thanks Verry. Okay, that's okay, no problem.
Go let's see we'll ask you on well, well, will
you're bring you and miss Keller? Do you see that happening?
Speaker 9 (50:39):
Yeah, any of these things are possible. I mean, you know,
there's a lot of teams with a lot of money
and anything as possible.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Okay, okay, And then we'll ask you about the uh
Philly's swinging a deal obviously for a Lee Ruschman as well.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Your talks about that.
Speaker 9 (51:03):
Well, they may want to resign their catchers ahead of him.
But you know, I think Rushland is going to be
a great player eventually. You know, I think he's I
think he probably is going through some mental issues at
the moment from the standpoint of the year he had,
but he's got the capabilities of put together five or
(51:24):
ten good years in a row. So I'd be more
surprised if he doesn't have if he has another bad year,
than I would if he has a great year.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
So's everybody talked about all these topics so far. I'm
just trying to get an idea where we're at so far. Okay,
so let's continue on the Yankees outbit the Dodgers or
Kyle Tucker. Let me have a footnote on that before
we go further that he comes. Actually, it looks like
i'll go over that right now. I haven't written in.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Front of me.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
The Cubs are not are respected part ways with Kyle
Tucker and see he pursues a three hundred plus million
dollars deal. All right, well let's start off with that one.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
Eric.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Can you see the logistics why the Cubs would go
ahead and part ways a three hundred million dollars for him?
Speaker 6 (52:12):
I think, I think, I think the Cubs are can
more than a fordic given that they're a big market
team and if they really wanted to, they could dominate,
they could be they could dominate the NL Central. But
they don't. This is what the Cubs have been doing
for a while post World Series, is they've been behaving
like a small to middle market team, and it's been
driving particularly people in Chicago, Chicago crazy, while while Milwaukee
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seemingly has walked on him the past three years and
taken the division from them in in three straight years.
I think that the Cubs can easily do that deal.
And I yes, they have some young prospects, but you
got a guy too who's still in the prime of
his career. Yeah, he had a bit of a down year,
but you know the track records there where he's had
a where he's had an uber amount of success. You know,
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I I think I the Cubs are doing this, but
I think they're doing it for the wrong reason. And
then there's a reason why the Brewers are the are
the are the dominant team in the nationalgue Central right now,
and it's reasons like that Candy.
Speaker 7 (53:08):
The Brewers develop young talent. The Cubs can go out
and afford to buy that talent. And so the question
is is where do they want to put their money?
Because they have way more money than the Brewers do
to spend, so do they want to The question is
is how many players do they want to pay for
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and which ones do they want to spend the money on?
So will they do Kyle Tucker. Obviously they're not going
to and they're going to try and you know he's
going to try and go out and get some other places.
Is that smart for the Cubs? As a Brewers fan,
I hope the Cubs don't do well ever again, but
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that's probably not good for baseball. So what can I say?
Speaker 6 (53:55):
Why, Candy, they were baseball was fine for one hundred
and eight years.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Well, Barry Katie gave you a monthfull there. So we're
gonna talk about Kyle Tucker and not being with the Kubbies.
Speaker 9 (54:08):
Well, well, you know, I have a hard time wrapping
my head around the fact that he's a three to
five hundred million dollar player.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
But you got the Yankees that are gonna be to
hunt for him.
Speaker 9 (54:18):
It looks like if they don't go after Bellinger and
you got the Dodgers, well, if you get those two,
especially the Dodgers, I don't see how, you know, if
they really want him, it's gonna be hard for the
Cubs to keep him. I don't think the Cubs are
in the hunt for him. I think it's gonna be
one of the other big market teams, and it's gonna
either be and you know, the Mets can come out
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of nowhere too. I mean, you got a guy there
who's worth thirty forty billion dollars whatever the owner's worth nowadays,
and they can spend whatever they want to spend if
they think it'll help them. And they're gonna they're possibly
gonna lose Alonzo if they don't resign him, so they're
gonna have a lot of money to spend. So I'd
say that Tucker's in a good position, although he's coming
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off a sort of an injury failed year and his
numbers were down, but he was almost a five war
player this year, even in a bad year. So he's
a good player, good defensive player, and you know.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
He'll get big money. But if it's going to be
three hundred million and up, it won't be with the Cubs.
Speaker 8 (55:19):
We're right. I agree with Barry. You know, he's right
in the prime of his career. But I don't think
the Cubs are going to get into a binning war
with the Dodgers or Yankees or the Mets. You know,
they just they just let him go develop their own
players or go out and get somebody else, you know,
especially because he did you know, he helped them offensively
because that was what they were really lacking in twenty
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twenty four, they didn't have any offense at all. So
he did make him better. He made the people around
him better too, Pa, Peter crow Armstrong is coming into
his own He's going to be a superstar, you know,
So they can afford to let him go and let
the other guy around him that were there already developed,
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and they can plug somebody in there and instead of
getting into binning war, take that money and use it
wisely with other players, or or get some more pitching.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
Grea point.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
So we'll talk about Peter Crowhams from next week on
and eight ticket. All right, Trent, we'll ask you this
and then we'll go through the rest of the topic
to get you out of here as close to on
time as possible.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
What are your thoughts about Tucker and the Cubbies.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
Yeah, I think Warren just made a great point about
they brought in a guy he had a lot of
influence on the clubhouse. They do not need to get
into bidding war. I would like to see the organizations
and how much money they make, and I think the
Cubbies are printing money right now. And the fact that
man I like that they went to the playoffs. I
like that they're not taking the Wrigley Family approach, which
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is in best thing. We've got TV contracts. We're the
only game with WGN back in the day, right and
they got all the season tickets they need. Everyone was
going to day games in Chicago at Riggley Field just
to go have a party. They had problem selling tickets.
Did not need to win. In this day and age,
you do have to win. They prove they can win it,
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you know, they they they prove they can win. They
prove they can win with the team they had last year,
which was not a lot of all stars. But I
think that comes back to Lawren's point of the big
influence of Tucker. Why would they want to get at
a bidding war? And right now I appreciate the Milwaukee challenge.
They are getting whipped up a little bit by the
brew crew. They're just about forty miles away, right But
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the reality is is that at the end of the day,
the Cubbies are making one hundred two hundred million and
the Brewers maybe making a million or two.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
Okay, Now, what we're gonna do is gonna pivot back
to Cats.
Speaker 11 (57:44):
Cats he's got a rebutto for me, oh, I do, well,
here's the here's the here's the thing. Every here's the thing, everybody,
all right, Rick, For better or worse, Chicago is that
Chicago's a Cubs town.
Speaker 6 (57:58):
That's that's just the way it is. If for you know,
no matter how good the White Sox are doing, or
how or or how bad the Cubs are, people are
going to Wrigley Field no matter what. That's that's the way.
That's the way it's been. And I promise you, regardless
of how good the Cubs are, that ballpark is going
to be packed. However, what the Cubs do with Kyle
Tucker is they essentially sold their souls to go back
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to the postseason because it's been nothing but mediocre since
they won the World Series, and that that little core
that they were hyping up and ended up falling flat
on their face. And thankfully the Cubs played them all
just in time before before the dumpster fire ensued. Now,
as far as as far as that run, as far
as that run goes, you know, the Cubs can easily
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get Tucker back. They print money that that team is
in like the second the second largest market in the
United States behind only New York City. Actually I think
they're behind LA too, but I digress. Top three market.
They can afford him. The problem is they don't want
to they behave like A did the small market team,
and that's why. That's why the Brewers took took him
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upside upside on their knee and took the division from
him the past three years.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
So bearing for one, is this guy branch or what?
Speaker 3 (59:14):
What do you think you think Eric's branch that?
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, that's all right, So that that's exactly what we
have now. That's why he's a hint all over the network.
I think it's my responsibility to get this guy in
a press box. Okay, I don't know problem all right,
So Trent, we're gonna go over some topics real quick,
and then I'll circle around with everybody else, and I
know you're on a time and strengthen.
Speaker 11 (59:36):
Here.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
Ikey's outfit, the Dodgers for Kyle Tucker, yes or.
Speaker 5 (59:39):
No, Yeah, they're gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (59:42):
They're gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
Okay, Okay, the Dodgers pivot to Cody Bellinger.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
Interesting is they bring Belinger back. I'll be really interested
to see that. Like I think you know, I think
he's a great fit. His dad, it was his dad
played there, So I mean, like, I think there's a
bunch of things that work. Uh uh had a great
maybe that maybe that gets him back to where he
was most successful. That triggers a bunch of things for him.
I don't think it's a horror. I don't think it's
a horrible play. And I think it's possible. Okay, And
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he's on sale, and he's on sale on the Dodgers payroll.
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
He's cheap.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Okay, let's continue on Trent, and I know you have
to get going, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Reunion.
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
The Mariners resigned John Taylor acquired Yondi Dias and Brandon
Loan a blockbuster deal.
Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Do you see it?
Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
I can see it. Mariners are right there on the edge, man,
They are right there, and they're gonna they're gonna get hungry.
They got a little taste and they're gonna want to
push it over the edge because man, pretty pretty close
to getting to that first World series man, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
The Giants acquired Joe Ryan to bolster of the starting rotation.
Do you see it in Minnesota?
Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Oh, Minnesota? Uh? Yeah, I can see it, you know,
it's a bigger market. It's an opportunity for him to
go to something bigger, playing a probably you know, very
similar environment by the way, cold. But uh, yeah, I
can I can see it happening. I mean, the giants
can can buy them away. I think it can happen.
Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
It.
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
It also gets them a lot stronger, and they need
some strength right now.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Okay, well a few more than I'm actually gonna go
on disorder, but everybody having a chance of rapid fire
all the dagus Okay, so let's uh the Braves acquire
Simion two. I'm sorry to obviously build the short plug
the short stop hold you see it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Yeah, I don't know about this one. Like you know,
there's a lot of options at shortstop. Like, I don't
think they necessarily going to go acquire this guy. They could, right,
I don't. I don't know, you know what the breaks
are up to. There's been a lot of changes going on.
Not it seems like for the better, uh based on
the result. But you know, I think, you know, to
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Eric's point, the bronxis built a winners. And you know,
I was in Detroit when Dave den Broski was struggling
for years going is he really going to the sun direction?
Because we're trying to figure it out. And then he
got you know, Sean Casey in that f freezency deal,
and he got a couple of short up veterans with
some of the young guys and really had a couple
of nice years there. But I'm trying to figure out
what the Braves are doing, and you know, maybe they
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got a rabbit the hat. So I'm not sure what
they're doing to play that shortstop hole, but I think
they've got a lot of options. So it would be
you know, fifty to fifty for me on this one.
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Yeah, well that's turned up, okay, and the old Marcus
fifteen fifty Okay, let's continue on the Detroit Tigers trying
to plug a hole with Boba Schet. You've seen that happening.
Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Hey man, I think Detroit Tigers can acquire Baschet man, yes, please,
Like you know, we need to help over.
Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
Here in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
And he's a high quality player man, and he's been
for the most part. He's been a healthy guy until
this last year. So you know, I'm easily comes from
a pretty good lineage to his dad, so you know, uh,
I'd love to see Bobie Schett in the Tiger's uniform
made me feel great.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
And last, last one and then you can give your
contact information. I'll go a little bit slower so Warren
and Barry could come him in on it. The Mets
let Pete along walk. It's been big on starting pitching.
Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Do I see that happening?
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Like, I don't know, man, Like I don't know what
the I don't know what the Mets are doing with Alonzo.
But he had a pretty good year after a very
tumultuous offseason, right, and so I think I think the
fan base loves him New York. I think that's for sure.
I don't know if that matters the ownership or not
really so the dam they don't care, but I'll be
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I'm very interested to see what's gonna happen with Pete Alonzo.
Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
I think what they did learn is if they don't
get starting pitching, they're never really going to compete.
Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Great stuff, all right, Trent, everybody, now they're getting you.
Book your butts up and then continue on with the group.
Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Yeah, thank you for having me as always, guys. Great
to see Warren and Barry on here and so so
good to see you guys, Thank you for joining and
always happy to be here. I am Trent Park. I
am at Trent at Leadership, at the dot com Leadership,
I y dot Com. I am the author of Leaving
Wing Teams book I wrote published by Wiley and you
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all over the world. I'm a growth coach help a
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me on this network as well podcast very find a
way and I look forward to seeing everybody down the road.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Feel free.
Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Please reach out to me anytime. My cell phone is
forty oh seven one zero thirty seven one two. I
give my cell phone out.
Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
It's really you're.
Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
A jadge and I will block you. I will, I
will not build my cell phone, but like you are
welcome to give me a call or email me.
Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Okay, glad to have you on and we'll be in
touch and Trent, our plan is to have you going
forward on Monday nights, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
With this group.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Okay, just want to make sure you're everybody all right, Thanks,
everybody all right, We'll go back a little bit slower
on these topics. I want to make sure we got
a few people in so they got the core of
them all right, So I we'll go back one at
a time. That way it keeps everything more orderly. Okay,
we'll go to you, Warren. The Yankees outfit the Dodgers
for Kyle Tucker. Do you see it?
Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
Yes, I could see that definitely. You know. The Yankees there,
they're going to get back to the way they were
to buy the best players that are out there that
they think that can get them over the top and
get them back into the World Series and win in
the World Championship. The money is no object for them,
never has been.
Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
And the Dodgers pivot to coding Billinger.
Speaker 8 (01:05:49):
I know I'd have a hard time with that because
he struggled so much at the end when he you know,
when they let him go before. You know, But like
Trent said, he's cheap by the amount of money they're
paying their other players, you know. But I think they've
got to let the guys that they've already got in
their organization develop and let them get a chance at
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the big leagues. You know, it's not that money is
an object, but you know, what do you tell your
minor leaguers if you keep going out and they keep
playing in the minor leagues, and every time position opens up,
they go out and get a player, and and you
just still sit there and toil in the minor leagues.
You know, it's it's bad for the organization to go
out there and get a guy that they've already had
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that and not give the opportunity to players that they
have in their own organization.
Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Now that's a great point. It really, really, really really is.
Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
So neither meet Mariners resigned Josh Taylor or query yandid
as Brandon Low and a blook Bus revealed.
Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
Yes, definitely. You know, again, like Trent said that the
Mariners are just they're they're one game away from being
in the World Series, you know, and it's something that
they've never achieved, and they've you know, they've got a
good young core and now they're they're maturing and and
add a couple of pieces just you know, it is
enough to just push them over the top to get
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the World Series.
Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
We'll continue on.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Okay, the Giants de player Joe Ryan and most of
their starting rotation.
Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
Yes, definitely, the Giants need starting pitching. They're going to
let Vernlander go, uh and Logan Web and it is
basically about the only starting pitcher that they can count on.
The other guys are still developing, they're young, and they
need another established pitcher to go along with Logan Web.
Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Maybe justin verl Anders letting them though, do the lack
of run support right right?
Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
He didn't put that exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Rings a player Marcus Simeon to plug the short top hold.
Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
You see that happening.
Speaker 8 (01:07:53):
No, I don't see that happening. He's been playing second
base on turf, you know, now to go to grass
and play go back to short stop. He was a
great shortstop when he was with the A's, you know,
so he's he's got a proven track record that he
can play shortstop. But now it's been what five years
probably since he's played shortstop, and uh, to go to
get somebody that age when there's that there's other players
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out there that are available. I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Do you see Bull the ship signing with the Tigers
and signing to ship to second base?
Speaker 8 (01:08:24):
I think that'd be great. Yeah, I mean I don't.
He had some leg injuries. I believe and do anything
to take get off the turf and get back on grass,
to take any pressure off his legs would be good
for him, you know, to go to a field of
grass field instead of turf field. You know, it would
be good for him. And it'll it'll let us, it'll
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long his will make his career longer.
Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
It's funny you say that case Andre Dawson pulled the
trick at Wrigley Field and all the way around, Okay,
and last on that one pin Alonso, the means let
him walk.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
He's been on starting pitching. Do you see that?
Speaker 8 (01:09:03):
Yeah. I don't understand because they've been back and forth
for him for a couple of years about letting him
go and he's going to be is he going to
be there? You know? And until they got so soid
I mean, I thought he was the face of the franchise,
you know, and and he's had some great years there.
I just I couldn't let a player that's done that
well in New York under the scrutiny of the New
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York Press, that's done that well, let him walk. You've
got they've got to do whatever they can do to
resign him and keep him happy. Because he's a big
cog in their offense.
Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Okay, all right, Barry, I'm going to go over him
again as not make sure everybody has a fair opportunity
individually instead of going back and forth to trying to
keep up more organized. So I appreciate Barry's patients. And
then after that we'll go a little bit more singular topics. Okay,
so let's go back around the hornor with Barry. Okay,
we talked about Kyle Tucker with the inks.
Speaker 12 (01:09:56):
What do you think there, Well, I think it's always
pop a lot, you know, Uh, it depends on how
much the Dodgers want to pay, because the Yankees have
not other than the you know, judge, they haven't shown
a propensity.
Speaker 9 (01:10:09):
To throw out a whole lot of money for position guys.
They've thrown it out for some pitchers. But you know,
anytime the Yankees want somebody, they're going to be in
the They're going to be in the hunt. But it's
the same thing to be said about the Dodgers, and
they both have a need. So, uh, Tucker's had a
pretty good driver's seat right now.
Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Yeah, he really is. Okay, what about the Dodgers pivoty
and Cody Bellinger. Do you see that. I think you
mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think
they're going to go after Bellinger.
Speaker 9 (01:10:39):
I mean, anything's possible, but I think after you've had
a bad run like he did, it's kind of hard
to go back there.
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
And we talked about the Marraders, Like I said, they
were pretty close getting the World Series, Gosh Naylor, n
Dns and.
Speaker 9 (01:10:56):
Well, I'm not exactually sure who they'll get, but they're
gonna get some players. They're they're right on the cusp
for getting to the World Series. And I'm sure they've
got money to spend.
Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Yeah, I mean that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
I mean doesn't necessarily have to be low Yandi Diaz
or Josh Naylor, that's for sure. Okay, And obviously we
talk about Giants acquiring Joe Ryan. Do you think he's
obviously a type of guy that could make a difference there.
Speaker 9 (01:11:23):
They need pitching, and you know, you never know about
how well a pitcher's going to do till he gets there.
Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
That's a good part for pitchers. So yeah, that's a
good chance that happened.
Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Okay, Yeah, we don't want Braves Coyer, Marcus Simeon to
plug the shortstop hold.
Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
You see that, I think has would be a short
stop ahead of Mark.
Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
That's pretty good. Is a pretty good shortstop back in
the day too. Mind you what about Bob Vashett with
the Tigers.
Speaker 9 (01:11:54):
The Tiger's got a picture they're going to have to
pay three to four hundred million dollars to keep. I
don't know if they're gonna be willing to hit the
price mark that they need for Beshet because they got
to keep Schooble and it's going to take a big
truckload of money to keep in.
Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
We're going to talk about school in the coming weeks too.
I'm just trying to see a lot of the different
people that are and the Mets always earned the topics
for everything everybody, that's for sure, all right, And then
we'll what about Pete Alonzo. You you think they'll mental
lettlem Walk for more pitching?
Speaker 9 (01:12:29):
What differences make if they if they feel if they
want pitching, they got the money to ford pitching. I mean,
you got an owner there that he plays outside the
box of everybody, even the even the even the Yankees
and the Dodgers, to a certain extent he can spend
all he wants to spend. I think he'd be I
think the only way Alonzo doesn't come back there if.
Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
He wants more than five year contract. He's a little
bit older.
Speaker 9 (01:12:55):
If he wants more than five years, maybe hard for
him to stay there.
Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
All right, Candy, and then Eric, you've talked about a few.
I'll let you guys go through real quickly. Do you
remember all you want me to.
Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Go back over? What do you guys do? Well?
Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
Did you go through him again?
Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
All right, no problem?
Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
All right, Eric, Uh, we'll go ahead with the ones
that you already talked about Tucker. In fact, he ranted
about Tucker, so you don't have to rent on him anymore.
Oh but the Dodgers uh Yankees outbid him?
Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Yes or no?
Speaker 8 (01:13:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
Yeah they do, Yeah, they do. They need they need
they need a proven bat. And and time's running out
for to get judged that World Series ring.
Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
And Dodgers pivot to get Cody Bellinger.
Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
No, and for a number of reasons. Number one, it
didn't it didn't end well there and two and number two,
the Dodgers have have have this prospect name Joshuapaula. He's
a first round pick, and he's currently number thirteen in
MLB's Top one hundred prospect list. And you know he's
right and he's ready to go. And Andrew Freeman, although
the Dodgers have the reputation for spending money, Andrew Freeman, No,
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Andrew Freeman knows when to pull back and let the
young guys take over.
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Fair enough, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Manners resigned, Josh Naylor, quaire Yandi Diism, Brandon Lowe.
Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
I would, I would, I mean they had a taste
right there. I get I've getting to the World Series
for the first time ever, and I have no doubt
that there that there's going to be plenty of plenty
of people saying they should go all in, and they
already have Brandy Arose Arena. Why not? Why not take
the rest of the race stars?
Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
And that's pretty good, The Giants declaired.
Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Joe Ryan, Yeah they need I mean yeah, Logan web
Batman needs needs a Robin and Joe Ryan.
Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
That's good too. I like that, okay. And obviously Braves
of Marcusime and what do you think?
Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
No, No, he's no, he's thirty five years old and
he's on the back nine of his career. Nope, they
want to They want to bring in that. They want
to bring in the big tuna fish and Trek Scougel
and and bringing in Bobaschet. That will prevent them from
doing that because they gotta they got to spend a
lot of money to keep to keep him and keep
Trek Scruball in Motown.
Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
There you go, great points all the way around, Like
Garry said, Gray minds thinking like right, Bury and the
kid okay, and of course Pete Alonzo you know the drill.
Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna let him go. Stearns was never
really that big on him. He tried to let him
go last year, but I think more or less Steve
Cohen wanted to keep him because Steve Cohen likes him.
But I think this year though, with with Scott, with
Scott Boris and uh and Petere Alonso not really not
reading markets, I think they're gonna let him go because
they also have they got plenty of guys on that team,
like they can easily flip Vieto's to first base.
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
All right, Candy, you get the last crack out, then
we'll move on the kids easier from here. But obviously
during the offseason we have to go over a lot
of these projections and we'll see how they play out.
A lot of this stuff probably won't take place until
after the Baseball Winner meetings. So so all right, Candy
will start off with Tucker.
Speaker 7 (01:15:59):
Well, the Yankees outbid the Dodgers. Yes, I think the
Yankees have the money. I think they're gonna.
Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Go for it.
Speaker 10 (01:16:07):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
They they don't like the fact that they didn't get
back to the Big Dance into the World Series. So
whatever they can do to get there, they're gonna they're
gonna try.
Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Very good. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Dodgers know to Cody Bellinger Mariners. Yes, they're gonna re
sign Josh because again, they're they're so close. They tasted it,
they know what it tastes like. They're gonna do what
little bit they need to switch it up so that
they can get there, and they acquire Yanni and low.
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Giants acquire Joe Ryant. Well, let's face it, Minnesota hasn't
kept any of their players there. They were on a
dumpster fire sales, so yeah, I think you know, Giants
can definitely acquire him.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
Let's see Braves, Choir Simonian. You know the Braves have
been the one one team that you just can't quite
put your finger on whether they're gonna do something smart
or not lately, so I'm not so sure about that one. Bobrachett, No,
he will not go to the Tigers because again, just
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like everybody has said, they have to find a way
to keep schoobles, so whatever they can do to do that.
Mets they're gonna let Pete walk because they want pitching
and they've paid they they can pay for anything. Obviously,
that's was well known this year, but they fell short.
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So they're gonna do what they need to because let's
face it, the Dodgers showed you in the World Series
you need starting pitching. That's what carried them through the series.
So that's what more and more teams are gonna I
think strive for.
Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Gonna come in on a few of these.
Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Number one Bobichelle would be a great addition to Detroit,
but not at the expense is there at school wel
As far as Joe Kellers, Joe Ryan has concerned, no
doubt about it. I mean, I'd love to see him
go to the Giants, but they need that before they
can bring him on because they let Justin Verlander get away.
Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Justin Verlander had a really good year and that was
a way there.
Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Kyle Tucker, Well, the Yankees don't get outbit on anybody.
And if they do, and the only time I ever
saw a guy leave they got good money was was
Robinson Cano and he stunk out the joint after he
left to the Yankees to Seattle and the Dodgers and
Cody Belanger, I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
So let's continue on.
Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
So let's talk about Bo with Shid if not the
Tigers were will Bo go next year?
Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Eric or does he remain to Jay?
Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
I could see him saying in Toronto, I mean, Blad,
he's their long term. I think that's what was kind
of holding him up a little bit. But they just
went to the World Series. But we'll see though, because
Bo has said that he's over in to going elsewhere, Katy,
I think he stays.
Speaker 7 (01:19:05):
I think he's seen that the team is playing together
and how far they went. I think they have unfinished
business yet in Toronto, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Do you think there?
Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
I think he stays.
Speaker 9 (01:19:20):
I think he stays with Guerrero, you know, kind of
came up together, and I think he'll stay there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Will you Warren?
Speaker 8 (01:19:28):
Yeah? I think he'll stay there too. You know, he's homegrown,
and they have that nucleus of those guys that all
came up together, and they're starting to taste winning. You know.
Now they just need a couple more pitchers and they
can get over the top.
Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
It definitely makes the most sense, all right, And we
talk about Nolan Ryan every week. So on July thirty first,
nineteen ninety year and a three hundred career win, I'm
going to ask Very and Warren, because obviously you guys
played first of all. Warren, what were your thoughts about
knowing Ryan?
Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
Oh, he was fun to watch. Oh my god, glad.
I I only had to hit off him once. You know,
he was fun. He was fun to watch. You know,
he would he was special. You know, as I always
looked forward one of the days he pitched against us.
I always looked forward to it.
Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
What about you, Barry, Well, he's well, he's the only
guy I ever saw in my twenty four years in
professional baseball.
Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
But you know, he thought, well he could throw a
no hitter tonight. I mean every game out that he threw.
Speaker 9 (01:20:32):
H you know, when when he was breaking ball and
he was getting his breaking ball over, he was basically unhittable.
So yeah, and he was when he was mean you
know here in you know he would throw at you.
You knew, just throw it at you was intentional, and
he was just a he was a very tough competitor.
Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I'll tell you when I started to hit you guys
with these topics of these players, you guys got a
beast and famine. I'm just salivating every time I come
up with him, you know, So let's talk about each
all right, go ahead, Candy, that's all. No one you've
got to say dying of.
Speaker 7 (01:21:09):
Him lately, that's okay. I mean, I I We've commented
numerous times. I mean, he's an excellent picture. I can't
imagine ever going against him. I mean, he consistently threw
pitches that were clocked above one hundred miles an hour,
and he maintained his velocity throughout his career, which I
think is something that is kind of unheard of that
I think people lose some of that arm strength as
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the years go on, but he didn't.
Speaker 6 (01:21:33):
So Eric, I mean, he is the best, in my mind,
the greatest picture of all time. I mean, he kept
his velocity into his forties. You know, he was not
the guy you wanted to mess with out there. I mean,
Robin Ventura found that out real fast.
Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
We'll talk about that, but he.
Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
Was, I mean he is that. He's like so beloved
in the sport today. Heck, even the second George Bush
had a poster of him in the Oval office.
Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Well that says a lot, right, I look Goodzuki here,
he's a versus seven MLB.
Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Anybody else want to add to that? Okay, that was good.
Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Eric Ero Suzuki is one of seven MLB players in
three thousand hit Club and five hundred solen base Club,
along with Hall of famers Taikom, Eddie Collins, Otus Wagner,
Lou Brock, Ricky Henderson, and Paul Molcher.
Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Eric so talks about that club.
Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
I mean, just again, he Cheero probably probably the best
all round player of my generation. And you know, he
shattered record after records like he walked. It's like he
walked into Major League Baseball. Was just great from it
and it was just great from day one.
Speaker 7 (01:22:50):
Andy Again, we've talked about him. He has got he
had such good speed, he could hit to all field.
He he was just a great studier of the game,
like he knew the game and so he knew where
to hit the ball and he wasn't afraid to put
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it in any field, you know, whereas a lot of
batters I think trying either try too much, but he
just naturally did it, and with his speed, he he
was one that everybody should emulate their game after.
Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Harry.
Speaker 9 (01:23:31):
Oh yeah, great player, great defensive player. Hit too many
singles for my liking, but that's the nature of his game.
But you know, hall of famer probably. I think he's
probably a Hall of Famer in the Japanese League in
the Major League Baseball. So he's a great player. And
I think one of the more impressive things he did
was throw out the first pitch not long ago and
(01:23:53):
he filled about eighty five eighty six miles an hour,
so still got his arm.
Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Yeh, that is pretty cool stuff period. Thanks for bringing
that up, Warren.
Speaker 8 (01:24:02):
Yeah, he was definitely a great player. I mean, obviously
he's a Hall of Famer, and you know, he was
in the era where speed was still part of the game,
where they were stealing bases and moving runners and hitting
behind people, hitting and running and playing the game the
way it used to be played. He was a great player,
and then he was in the era of where players
(01:24:23):
started playing into their forties that they kept themselves in
shape in the offseason. They didn't have to go out
and get jobs like they did in the past, and
he was able to prolong his career by just taking
care of himself. And yeah, because definitely hitting line drives
at speed, that was his game.
Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
So one more baseball topic, one more non sports, and
we're about five ten minutes away from wrapping it up.
Great show. Glad to have a lot of different people
in here as well. Coach Curry are he is great,
Trent Clark was always and of course they got my
two anchors here hanging in there very and warning to
be the two kers will this show every week. So
I'm glad to have them both on my team, as
(01:25:03):
I have for many years. Anyway, So with that said,
let's talk about it. If you're in the Hall of Fame,
I should be wearing your number, Nick Collins, Nick zald
says on the Pirates, Dave Parker, do you agree, Eric.
Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
Uh No, because you know, not every team retires numbers.
Some teams feel as though that they should just have
a they should just have like kind of one of
them honor boards per se. I mean, the same could
be you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna gonna, I'm just
gonna take the football real quick. You could say something
about the Dallas Cowboys and the number eighty eight where
it was worn by Drew Pearson, Michael Michael Irving and
(01:25:38):
other people since then have worn that number. But I
think number of retirements have kind of gotten a little
bit out of control now, particularly I can speak for
the Yankees, where there are some people up there who
I really don't think should have had their number retired.
But you know, to me, I think wall I think
just the ring of honor is like what you do,
it's enough to honor them. I don't think you have to.
I mean, obviously there's a few exceptions, so but you
(01:26:01):
have to be to me, you have to be like
just transcend the sport in order to have your number retired.
And you know, I think we're just retiring numbers for
all the wrong reasons now.
Speaker 7 (01:26:12):
Inde, I think to Eric's point, I think that there
are some teams that have retired too many and at
some point you're gonna run out of numbers then, and
what do you do are you gonna do, Oh, you're
one oh one and one fifty one and two. Like
I agree, you can retire people and put them into
your Wall of Fame or retire them in your own
(01:26:36):
hall of fame, but not necessarily have to do retire
their numbers. You know, around some of these stadiums and
you just see how many and then you see some
that don't have aldly any And I think it depends
on the question you're going to put to put somebody
on a retired number. Face it, all of Baseball retired
number forty twos, so you know, right, police, But then
(01:27:02):
what is the area for you as a team to
retire other numbers?
Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Well, it was justifiable with Jackie Robinson Berry.
Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
Well, I like the retired numbers and not being able
to use them.
Speaker 9 (01:27:16):
You know, having played with the Yankees, they they kind
of overdo it and to the point there that it's
hard to get a number you know that you've had
had your whole career when you go there, it's either
you know, when I went there Yogi Bear, it was
number eight at the time and Yogi Bear was eight,
So my chance to get number eight were swimming none.
(01:27:39):
But you know, I think it can get a little
carried away. But I like the tradition of retiring numbers.
I think you have to have it with a Hall
of Fame career and you got to have a certain
number of years at the ball club.
Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
But I like the tradition of retiring numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Great stuff. Perry weren't.
Speaker 8 (01:27:57):
I agree with Barry. You know, it's a great honor
to have your number retired, you know, but it's got
to be special. You know, it's got to be you
have to be a Hall of Famer and you've got
to spend eight to ten, twelve, fifteen years with the
team if not, you know, because I Candy said eventually
they were going to run out of numbers. When he
get it goes three digits, you know, that's that's just
(01:28:20):
the way it's going. And yeah, it's got to be special.
I mean, it's got to be a Hall of Fame
player that was really special in that organization. I know,
like in Philadelphia they've got about four or five numbers
retired and that's it just and those guys were definitely special.
They were just the big you know, they'd be the
(01:28:41):
faces of the franchise in their era and they were
there quite a while.
Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Okay, Well, all I know is to me, longevity does
make it be a difference. Some of the smaller markets,
I might be able to see it a little bit
if they can't retain their players.
Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
But the most part, I think longevity doesn't matter. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
With that said, our final topic of the night is
a nonsports and it's a role fun one and we'll
end it on a lighthearted note. Okay, excellent. Once elevated
a comedian as it's mayor in wrecomedge. How do you
like that a comedian as a mayor and recommend? What
do you think, Barry, if you ever want to go
out there and be a mayor?
Speaker 5 (01:29:21):
I think I think it's for me to think about.
Speaker 9 (01:29:26):
I don't go above the Mason Dixon line any longer
my life.
Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Well, I don't blame you.
Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
I'm in Florida, so I can appreciate it. What are
you talking about, nights on bringing a comedian.
Speaker 13 (01:29:35):
Though, Well, yeah, that's probably good for for Iceland. I
think that's a good thing for that, you know, but
you probably use some comic relief.
Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
Here everyone else for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Yeah, that's why I bring these topics on here, very
just for that reason comic relief, my friend, then he
can He've only figured me out since eighty four, right
Bear right now? Like yeah, has been that's how long
you talk about relationships here, Barry and I have one, Warren,
What you're talking about the comedian in Iceland?
Speaker 8 (01:30:07):
Well that the thing I find interesting, Scott is you
keep talking about Iceland. Last week our topic was about
Iceland also in the Elves and you know, Iceland definitely
is a definitely a different, different sort of atmosphere apparently. Yeah,
but I think that'd be great to have a comedian
as your mayor, you know, I mean, because what's a mayor.
He's out and meeting the public, you know, and what
(01:30:30):
better way to meet the public by making them laugh?
Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
He Warren, you got it easy. You only had two
Iceland topics.
Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
I've been doing that for a long time and I'm
trying to And you know why I talk about Iceland now,
Katie and I went there earlier this year. Is one
of the greatest places I've ever been to. It's a
place that my brother has never been to. So I
think Iceland's a cool place. It wasn't like Perry said,
told I'd like to go back more often. That's okay,
we won't be talking about Iceland act week. I'll find
some different self. But I had to put this comedian
(01:30:58):
on in and you know, again, let's admit, you know,
part of our what we do is entertain right.
Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Barry and Warren is entertained. We can agree on that.
Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Well, I like to come up with some must the walls,
So I will, I promise you, I'll give you the
week off from not Iceland and I'll come with some
different Hey, but at least we found it with the
ouphant and the comedian, all right, can.
Speaker 7 (01:31:21):
It was a satirical gesture designed to protest against the
political class blamed for mirroring Iceland in the financial crisis.
To his horror and the horror of the establishment, he won.
Why do I always have to get myself into trouble?
He said, recalling his thoughts on the night of his victory.
(01:31:42):
So he did it as a joke, and yet the
joke was on him as a comedian and he won.
Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
All right, Eric, you have the final word on this,
and then we'll wrap the show up.
Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
I mean, people forget those comedians are actually really smart
people though, because they got to come up with all
the material and whatever and act, but hope and hope
and hope that God it hits. Otherwise is going to
be a long night up there. So you know, if not,
it's not as bad, not as bad as people might think.
Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
It doesn't lighthearted nonsports to end it. So if that said,
that does good this edition one hundred eighty sich As
dains Fall Talk. I want to thank everybody for joining
us in the coach Curry area at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Trenton and of course Warren Bruster. I'm glad to have
him back on my airway, although warrants always great to
have you back on. I promise we won't talk about
Iceland next week.
Speaker 8 (01:32:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
But I'll tell you what. I'm not sure where're going
to go, but I won't be is at least next week. Barry,
you know how I feel a lot of you, man. Yeah,
the love is something that goes all the way back
to the eighties. And I'll tell you the only thing
about Barry Foot I can tell you right now. Barry
foot and not only had a really good career as
a player, but what he did off the field as
a manager in the minor leagues is something that people
(01:32:54):
should look at. But the thing I can brag about
with Barry is what Barry did off the field and
is to me, is something that Hall of.
Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Fame name should be made out of. Berry. And that's
the thing that impresses me more about you. Berry. You've
been a great print over the years.
Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Every time I've asked you it, come on, You've always
been kind to me, willing to do it. But what
you've done off the field, every major league player and
athletes should look at you as a role model, Perry
about what life is like after athletes, and you've definitely
proven that. Obviously you deserve to enjoy retirement or anything,
(01:33:29):
because you earned it in ways that most people can
only Well. We talk about in this day and age
athletes being broke, and many of them are broke. Bairyfoot
reinvented himself in the business world as an entrepreneur, and
to me, he's a big ruth of entrepreneurs. And I
say that, Barry, because I really truly mean it from.
Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
The bottom of my heart and the top of my mouth. Okay,
so there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
That those bay Time words. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Well, I've known you a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
I guess on the title of the brag about somebody
that is like Coca Cola, he's a real thing. Uh
is that what it is? Or is it Petsy. I
don't know what's one of those things, but I think
he gets it.
Speaker 13 (01:34:09):
So.
Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
But that said, Eric, everybody know they get a hold of.
Speaker 6 (01:34:13):
You can follow me on my ex account at sports
Team News, or you can check out my blog af
Ailure at sports dot com, where I'm writing about all
things baseball and the Milwaukee Berds. And if you think
I don't like your team, I probably don't.
Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I can't you give us some more station break than
we're gonna Well, Barry like that one. Don't worry. You
get used to it every week. Uh See, Verry, how
do you like working with Eric every week?
Speaker 5 (01:34:34):
Oh? He's my kind of guy. Like it is?
Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
There you go, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
I got topics tonight. We had to get a little
bit more into the off season stuff Verry and Warren.
But there'll be a lot of point counterpoint type of
questions that I'm going to incorporate in the next week's
edition of one hundred and eight Incent Baseball Talk that
we're gonna be able to put everybody on the spot
on as well, So tonight, I you know how it
is you have to talk about some of this off
season stuff and speculating that's what we're gonna don't the
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we're probably gonna move the show, Barry, is it okay
if we go to eight o'clock?
Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Warn eight o'clock? Will that be better for you guys?
Speaker 8 (01:37:52):
Sure? That's fine?
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Yeah, well does it work? I just want to make sure. Okay,
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