Marlins Historical Sweep Sends Yankees Reeling For Answers

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Good inning. Everybody walking for the second half hour double header,
and boy do we have one whale of a show
going on. We're not talking about Shamoo the whale. We're
talking about a whale of a show. Oh am. I
in a whale of a great mood with this group
I got tonight. Trent Clark can't be here, be here
next Monday night.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
But no what.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Mister Southern fried gentleman is gonna be out here. And
I tell you what about mister Whatt. He's really darting
up the food chain. He does an unbelievable Domina Country
club and now he's here talking some baseball that I
welcome back to Southern pride, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hopefully everybody can and hear me.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
And I know the whiting is weird, so y'all bear
with us, but don't mess around and get cooked tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
That's all I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, I think that's all you can tell me. Tell
me a lot tonight. I glad to have you on anyway.
George going back, O.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Good to be back. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And we got Cassie is back in the house waiting
for a debate near you going to have them good
to be back.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Good to be back, Scott, looking forward to talking to ball.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
You definitely have that opportunity, is a lot of it.
Mighty anyway, have Candy Eubling or cracked statistician and.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Then some thanks, Scott. It's great to be here. Love
talking to baseball and.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
My manager, my skipper, my baseball. Your name it, mister Mickey,
callaway my brother from another mother and backing out. You're
ready to talk a lot. Well let's start with us.
Let's talk about the Miami Marlin. We're ready to go.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
We're always ready to talk baseball, Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You are. That's one of the reasons I like this
guy because when I bombarded him with some tough questions
when I was covering the Mats, let me tell you something,
he stood there and took him And now he got
himself a one way ticket on our show, on this
show with me, so I get to do it every week. Right, Skip.
He took him pretty good, now, didn't you.

Speaker 7 (02:20):
That's what we had.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Some funny Absolutely. Now now I have a I have
a rolls roy for a baseball land and it's called
me get away about that good stuff. Well that said,
let's get to it because Goland knows there's a lot
of it, all right. We talked about the age lead
off of it, so obviously, as I mentioned it at

(02:42):
the outseid of the show. Now we're talking about a
historical sweep over the New York Yankees who are looking
for answers. Let's break down in particular. Okay, I mean
things they've gotten so bad in New York they had
to actually go out there and signed Kent to my
Ada to a minor league deal. That's how bad things
were getting. So here's what we've got. The Marlins have

(03:03):
a payroll to sixty six million dollars and the Yankies
have a payroll of two hundred and ninety seven million dollars.
But it even gets more and more interesting. Why just
get more and more interesting? Okay, Number one, We'll start
with the fact that Aaron Judge was placed on the
il with a flexer strain and his right elbow to

(03:25):
begin with. But when you look at what happened over
the weekend, we're gonna tell you right now that the
scorers were thirteen to twelve, two to nine, and seven
to three. Now, what Candy's going to do in a
moment is incorporated a clip of Aaron Lane Leanherts, a
field coordinator, and we talked about the series adjustment that

(03:47):
we ended up going into it. But let's go ahead
as we look at a lot more numbers on here.
The Marlins were winners at the gate. They ended up
drawing Get Death one hundred and one thousand, five undred
and forty five people, the only team with a winning
record against the Bronze Bombers, and this was their first
time sweep ever. To make things even more interesting, Jack McKeon,

(04:12):
the guy that led them to that world series, is there.
We'll get to Jack in a little while. So first
of all, skip what your thoughts about what took place
over at Loan Depoe Park this weekend, about what the
Paeska Marlins did they and Aaron Jet, I mean, let
me add one little minor tidbit before I do that too.
You had get this, You had Jazz Chisholm in the

(04:35):
lineup with Jim Carlos Stanton to Marlin's of another day,
So all right, skip, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
Well, you know, I'm obviously a historic series for the
Marlins for it to be the first time to ever
sweep the Bronx Bombers. So I'm sure feeling really good
going into Detroit, which is gonna be a tough ask
for them to continue to play the way we've been playing.
But uh, you got to be feeling good and be

(05:04):
on a high coming out of that Yankee series, and
you're probably salivating at the mouth a little bit and
feeling good to go and get to play Detroit. So
I'm really happy for him, you know. There they seem
to be playing as a team, and they've been fun
to follow.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
They made, in fact, to five hundred and fifty five
and fifty hive record. The Marylands have a busy play
all week. That's not kid ourselves. They have three with
the Houston Astros and they're gonna have five up in
Atlanta later on this week. I'm looking forward to the
Detroit series in a little while. That's okay, No, that's okay.
You're looking at That's okay, we look ahead. Sometimes George
will tell you how much I look forward.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
To I had George on my mind.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Usually people do when he comes on because he is
from Detroit. That's okay, nothing wrong with that skip. But
but but I'm looking forward to that series because that'll
be a busy weekend for us, because Candy and I'll
be covering the Tigers and the Marlins Friday and Sunday,
and then we get the Hurricanes and get Mamma Mater
your self. So that's okay. They're gonna a busy week
right at five hundred at the moment, and that's where

(06:07):
we currently live in the present tense. Candy some thoughts
about what we obviously saw over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
It's exciting to see the smaller payroll team, the underdogs
take on the big you know, big bad wolf. I mean,
let's face it, the Yankees draw wherever they go and
they have a good contingion that follows them. So going
down to the ballpark, and I'll be honest with you,

(06:35):
as many as there were Yankee fans, it was exciting
to actually hear all the chance for the Marlins as well.
I've gone to so many games down there, and you
hear more of the opposing play team's chance. It was
nice to really see Miami start to really back the Marlins,
and they were exciting games to see. So kudos to

(06:57):
the Marlins.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Kad Wyatt.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Candy said exactly what I was about to say.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
It is so good to see mister two hundred and
fifty million dollars payroll, I would like to present you
my fundamentally sound sixty six million dollar payroll, and we
will sweep you that. I mean, I know it's a
one off series. We're deep into the season. The Yankees, though,

(07:28):
they're flailing, not failing, They're literally going down a roller
coaster and they're flailing right now. The Yankees can't figure
it out. But the big thing for me, though, is hello,
mister two hundred and fifty million dollar payroll, Meet my
sixty six million dollar payroll, and we're just gonna beat

(07:50):
you up with fundamentals.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
George Well, I obviously i'd be concerned if I was
a Yankee fan, which I have to the right of
me here, and he'll talk more about that. But twenty
two runs and three games you allowed against Miami there
is a source of big concern obviously for the Yankees
right now with the pitching. Not to mention losing Judge,

(08:16):
as we alluded to earlier, that's something you just have
to live with until he gets healthy. But right now, yeah, Miami,
I mean, you pulled off of a stunner. You stunned
the baseball world everybody was so into this race at Bristol,
but man, oh man, it was the happening was down
in Miami for the Marlins and Yankee series and Detroit

(08:37):
and Philly. But that's on another subject. But yeah, I
do think that baseball is back. It's so good to see.
It's so good to see a hundred hundred thousand, you said,
Plus that is fantastic because we all know the Miami
gates have been very low. So congratulations. And I'd be
worried if I was the Yankees right now, but there's
a long season ahead.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
We go cancy.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, Yeah, the Yankees have been kind of being kind
of off. They've kind of been very like i'd say,
like mediocre at best, kind of u kind of June
July if you look at if you combine the two months,
they're kind of they're about a couple of they're about
a couple of games below five hundred. With that being said,
though they're bullpened. They still haven't been able to figure
that out. That's been kind of a that's been kind
of a an inconsistent thing that's been plaguing them all

(09:23):
all season long. I think I think Judge being out
that definitely. That definitely hurts because you know it's Aaron Judge,
best player in baseball right now, and obviously you know
that's you know, obviously they're a different team with Judge
in that lineup. I mean, yeah, you got good hitters
like that, like Cody Bellager, but it's not gonna be
not gonna be enough. Also, the Miami Marlins are playing,
you know, arguably their best baseball of the year right now,

(09:46):
and they got they got some talent. They got some
talent on that team. Kyle Stowers has busted out and
became and and it's looking like an All Star I
know that Xavier Edwards, you know what what speed, Augustine
Ramirez looks like. They're franchise hetcher behind the dish, and
it's been great to see. I think it's also been
nice to see too, because the Marlins have had trouble

(10:06):
drawing for years. Yes, the Yankees series, which you're expecting
that thing to be another a quote a quote unquote
home game for the Yankees, because the Yankees have had
fans all over, especially when you think about Florida, which
gets people from from the Manhattan and New Jersey areas
all the time. But you know, it's it's great to
see obviously, obviously it's the Marlins fan base is very complicated,

(10:27):
given that, you know, you had ninety three, ninety four
of the strike and then they they went, Then they
win the World Series, take it down, win the World
Series No. Three, take it down. You know, it's a
very complicated history. So but it's nice to see that
they show up every now and then though, which is
all obviously always always good for the game. Just wish
it happened more often.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
So let's go to tiber Ruski. I don't feel like
we're ignoring the guy. He's certainly in the running obviously
for one of our prizes later on this year. But so,
where are you from? He wants to know, Kad.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
No, well, he wants to know where I'm from, but
he wants to know if I'm in the garage, and so, yes,
I'm in the garage, I'm in my car.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
I am.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'll tell you what, guys, I am.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Literally I'm sitting in my garage with the car running
and the windows aren't cracked.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Is that safe or not? You'all tell me as.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Long as the groad door is opened. And okay, we
don't the garage is open. Yeah, I'm kidding with you,
all right, So all right, there you go.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh yeah, yeah that was a that was a whole
big joke. But yeah, they know where I'm from. We're
right down the road.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
What's that barbecue restaurant you like up here? Scott Collye
is right down Bobby's?

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Is that is?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I remember, you're the one Lobby's Barbecue.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
You're the one.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, you're the one that likes this restaurant right down
the road for me, Lobby's Barbecue.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
All right, Well, you know what, so Skiff, I'm gonna
ask you a quick question. Then we're gonna go to
one of our first videos here as well, because I'll
tell you one thing about this Aaron learn her. We're
gonna have you gonna people, everybody get familiar with this
guy because he's gonna be on the next couple of shows.
He's got some pretty good stuff. He's a field coordinator.
But do you but my question to you, Skip is this, Okay,
do you ever go ahead and make in series adjustments

(12:11):
on the overall game plan and when you have to
in the middle, or do you have a lot of
this pre planned when you scot a team.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Scott, can you repeat that you broke up for just
a second.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
What was the question again? So my question to you
is this, Okay, obviously, yeah, in many cases got three
game series for do you ever have to adjust your
game plan how to prepare for a team in the
middle of the series a lot?

Speaker 7 (12:37):
And that doesn't happen very That doesn't happen very often.
But yeah, certain guys, you might change your game plan
if they've made an adjustment or somehow they've figured out,
you know, kind of what you're doing to them. You know.
The thing we really tried to do is make our
game plans, especially for our starters, on an individual picture
by pitcher basis, based on what the hitters strings are,

(13:01):
but mainly on what our pit picture strengths are. And
I think sometimes we get away from that a little bit.
I think teams try to pitch to the hitters weaknesses
instead of really sticking with the pictures strengths. And you know,
if you if you stick with your strength as a pitcher,
you have more confidence. You're not trying to do something
you're not capable of just because the hitter has that weakness.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay, that's that's fair.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
So now I'll be a mistake to attack that's a
really good picture and make sure that we're sticking with
our strengths in the meantime and on the hitting side
of things, you're always, you know, trying to maintain a
good game plan against whoever the starter is that night.
So it doesn't happen very often, but you know, I've

(13:51):
had a few guys like Aaron Judge. We were talking
about him a little. Yes, he really adjusts in series,
and we've had to adjust from time to time against
him right in the middle of a series because he
just covers so much of the plate. So you've got
to really figure out where these guys are looking and

(14:11):
what adjustments they're making based on how we've pitched in
the past, the previous series, so on and so forth.
So there's a sometime, there's a sometimes to make an adjustment,
but most of the time you're sticking with the game
plan that you kind of created going into the series.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Okay, so what we're gonna do right now is we're
gonna thanks for answering that, because now you just set
me up for what Candy is going to do. Let's
get Aaron Leanhard's perspective about this as I asked him
here during the media availability for guess the game and
the reason why I set this up that way, Step
is you had a thirteen to tell win by the
Marlins on Friday night, two to nothing, So you wonder

(14:48):
what's gonna happen in between. We've seen pitching rules, see
this what so what are we going to see that
candy roll it.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
You get there.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
This series?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
If it's okay, you've had a thirteen, you've had a thirteen,
You've had a thirteen to twelve win and then two
to nothing win. So do you do any in series
adjustments at times? Knowing that you've had two different types
of games all together.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
I would say the game plan going in is based on,
you know, our starting pitcher, the other team starting pitcher,
the lineups that are that are put in place. I
can't sit here and tell you I was expecting to
have that first game, you know, put up twenty five
runs total, and I can't tell you I was expecting
to have the second game, you know, only put up
two runs total, like between the two teams, right, So
I wouldn't say there's a lot of major adjustments just

(15:41):
based on kind of those outbursts or those lack of
runs being scored. It's more just kind of an individual thing. Hey,
did we really have the right game plan for this picture?
Did we really have the right game plan for that pitcher?
Did we really have the right game plan to face
this hitter and that hitter. So, you know, if we
noticed that we didn't have some success against a particular pitcher,
particularly a relief pitcher, we might try to make some
adjustments because we might see that relief hitcher again, you know,

(16:03):
later later this series. Right, same thing, if we noticed
the hitter had a little bit success against this in
the first game, we might try to make some adjustments
on how we approach that hitter, you know, in the
in the subsequent games of the series. But I wouldn't
say there's there's a whole lot of major changes, you know,
just based on some of the overall results of the score.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
You know, obviously we're happy that we.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Won the two games, you know, but we're not going
to completely change what we're doing had we lost those
two games.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thanks so time. I appreciate ya a couple of days
ago getting that ring. Okay, so skip, this is just
mainly for you. Okay, what are your thoughts about what
Lernhard had to say about that? Do you agree with
a lot of what he had to say?

Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yeah, I agree, I agree with all of it. Right,
We're going into the series with a good game plan
based on a you know, a very good history of
what these batters have been doing, probably their last fifty
at bats. You know, sometimes you'll look at the previous
series and you might see twelve at bats and you

(17:02):
see something that stands out. But we really want to
base our plan of attack on their last fifty because
you know, you want you want a good base of
evidence to really build a case to present to your
pitchers and hitters on how how you want to approach
a pitcher or attack a hitter. So you know, you

(17:23):
don't change too much, but you do see those rare standouts.
Like I was talking about earlier with Judge, he makes
some significant adjustments mid series and that's one of the
reasons he's so good, and you have to make the
adjustment back.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, great stuff, all right. Well, last week, unfortunately, the
Baseball Hall of Fame lost as well as the baseball
world lost another Hall of Famer in Ryan Sandberg. Pathway
at the age of sixty five cancer, unfortunately to him.
Skeep some thoughts about the legacy of Ryan Sander. Ryan Sandberg.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
Yeah, so, so I grew up in Memphis two let's see,
and my parents are my grandparents were from Racing, Wisconsin
and unbelievable Cubs fans. So I sat there every every
afternoon with my grandparents and watched the Covees on TV.
And that's right when Ryan was in his heyday, and

(18:21):
I ended up getting to play with Jared Sandberg, who's
his nephew, and the death and greatly I've been signed
by him. So I was one of his biggest fans
growing up and I had a lot of respect for him,
and he's going to be missed right what a great

(18:42):
cub he was and it was always fun to uh
watch him growing up. And my my nephew, my nephew,
my brother's kid is named Wriggly after Wrigley Field. So
we were a big Cubs fans growing up. So it's
it's sad thing for based all today. This week.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Candy was gleaming when Ray seen Wisconsinant went out there
and got brought up with Candy with that said, I
doesn't say it that I don't know. Well, all right, Candy,
go ahead.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
I mean, let's face it. He was a ten time
All Star, nine time Golden gold Glove Award winner, seven
times Silver Slugger Award. Chicago Cubs retired his number. All around,
just a really good player. I mean, he played for Phillies,
he then played for the Cubs. He was also a
manager and a coach. He didn't have as much success

(19:35):
as on the manager and coaching side as he did
on the player's side, but that just goes to show
you that not everybody's you know, cut out, and sometimes
it's the situation that you're put into and where you know,
but great baseball mind, great baseball player. I didn't like
going against him when we did, but hey, kudos and

(19:58):
rest in peace.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Alright, Southern what are your thoughts about mister Sandberg? Well, well,
get back to Southern pride, George, go ahead. What are
your talks about Ryan Samberg? Well?

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Ryan Samberg is one of those first class guys that
I've always admired from the broadcast and writing perspective, I mean,
cooperative to the media. You can't ask for much more
than that. He's got a very classy act both professionally
on the field and off the field, and obviously he's
his favorite of all the Cubs in all of Wrigley Belle.

(20:36):
We know that that goes without saying. I mean, he's
not up to the level of any Banks maybe, but
Boyle boy, he's a hell the way up that list
right now and Fergie Jenkins, Billy Williams and the like.
But I'll tell you what, he was just one great ballplayer.
And certainly we got cheated in Detroit to not see
the Cubs very much at all, obviously until they started

(20:59):
more in league play. But I'm telling you this, he
never ever took a day off. When I saw that
kid play, that guy play, he was ready to play
all out every game that I saw. Just just a
perfect example of what you would want in a ballplayer
in the big league.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, we'll go back to Stulen Pride. Some thoughts about
Ryan Sandberg. JD. You're there.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
We can't hear you, JD.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, Well, I'll tell you what my thoughts are. The
guy's he's unbelievable, he really is. You talk about a
guy who had a cup of coffee with the Phillies
before he got traded, right and then obviously he landed
his career with the Cubs and what he's done at
all the few postseason appearances. Like George said, I don't

(21:52):
know if he's mister company.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Part B.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I will go to Eric.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I remember Ron actually got a story about Ryan Samberg.
I remember Rhino when he was when he was first
managing the Cubs organization for the pure at Chiefs, which
he actually come he actually did. He really did try
to make the manager thing work because he actually led
that team to a Midwest League championship his first year
of managing. Unfortunately, though, he just happened to uh get
get hired by the Phillies when they were at the

(22:20):
tail end of their of their of their few years
of success there with Howard Utley and the like. But
you know, but I remember he sign my brother and I.
He was signing autographs. I mean this line was like
wrapped around like the stadium. It was practic. It was unbelievable.
It was like it was like a subway at rush hour.
They you know, he was kind enough to let my

(22:42):
brother and I cut the hole one and soign our balls.
It was truly, it was truly unbelievable because he truly
was one of a kai. It's it's sad, that sad
that we lost him, but you know, nobody, nobody percent
off it. I'm hustling and grit then then Ryan than
Ryan Samberg. But you know he will we missed. He's
definitely very well loved in Chicago. I could and you know,

(23:05):
he's a Hall of Famer, He's very deserving of it.
And you know he's you know again, he's one of
a kind. I'm not sure if we'll ever get that
kind of ballplayer ever. Again, I probably put him in
the same light as Don Maddingly who played hard every night.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Right, Yeah, don don't give me a start with Don
Manningly that's sure. So but but you're right, but again,
let's not forget the cancer. Okay, how often can we
say that this on this is that this despicable disease
has a tendency to rear some we had. No matter

(23:40):
who it is, we'll all know that we have a
path out out of this world. I'm seeing cancer all
too many times. Hopefully we'll have an opportunity to get
Dad White as much as air time as we can.
Certainly want to do what we can to get the
show going as we can so well. So j D
wyant you have a chance to comment. We'll give you
a few top tonight if we can geep the going, okay,

(24:02):
because we still have a lot of ground to cover. Okay,
So please give me your thoughts about Ryan Sandberg.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
J D.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I can right now. Yeah, Yo, listen, y'all do what
you need to do. Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, I'll give you a couple more topics to work on,
and well you can talk about Ryan Sandberg very quickly,
and then we'll give you an opportunity to talk about
the Speedway Classic. How does that sell, my friend?

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, that's perfect.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
So Ryan Sandberg, Actually I think I just pronounced it incorrectly.
This was the first time that I ever learned about
Ryan versus Ryan Ryan Sandberg. It was pronounced Ryan r

(24:57):
y n e. That is where the ryano Ryan, oh,
Ryan and all those things come from. Ryan Samberg definitely
one of those MLB players when I was coming up
who influenced my game and something like. He had a
major impact for the way he played the game, the

(25:19):
consistency in which he did so dirty Sea word alert
there consistency, Ryan Golly, I don't know if I can
say that any more southern than what I am Ryan
Ryan Ryan Samberg, but rest in piece to him for sure. Man,

(25:43):
what a treasure for the Major League Baseball system.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
And Ryan Ryan Samberg.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
All right, so Southern fry, give me your thoughts real
quickly on the Speedway Classic Group ninety one thousand and
thirty two broke the MLB record. I know that this
was a topic that you were passionate about, So why
don't you give me your perspective on this?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
All right, gentlemen, So Eric and skip George Candy.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I'm so happy that everyone is here for this because listen,
the MLB missed it, missed it by five hundred miles.
And guess what, that's how many miles they race at
a NASCAR event. Five hundred miles. MLB missed it by
that much. And you might say, JD, how how did

(26:36):
they miss it by that much? Well, all right, let
me give you example number one. They didn't have enough
hot dog bunce for a hot dog. They had to
sell tortilla chips with no cheese. Yeah, how on the

(27:02):
world are you gonna sell me not joes? And that
ain't guys that at that point, it's it's a potato
chip in this at this particular jumpcture, it was a
tortilla chip. So how do you prepare to break an
all time MLB record and you don't even have enough food?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Candy Scott, let me ask you all this.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
My Candy's fault.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Hey did you plan to break?

Speaker 6 (27:40):
C do you're breaking up a little bit?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'll say you one thing. You've given us a food lesson,
right skip for talk about.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
The possibly.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
You you can't possibly try to break in attendance record
and not bring enough food to the family reunion.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
And then if the breezes were good, if the braves were.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Good, I would have been more entertained by the Speedway Classic.
And here I'll give you two more things about the
Speedway Classic and I'll pass it on my laugh. And
negative about the Speedway Classic, why did we not make
this a full weekend event? Why were there not more

(28:31):
teams playing at this location? However, my one positive is
that East Tennessee State they get the turf from the
stadium when it's left over. So me covering East Tennessee
State and the SoCon conference, I got a positive story
out of it.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
But the Speedway Classic you missed it by five hundred miles.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Okay, right, good, I'll tell you what. We're going to
bring you back as well with the skip as well.
In fact, so I'm glad you're able to. I know
you had strong opinions on the Speedway Classic, Jad Wyatt,
and we know you do an awesome job here with
in the country Club with Candy on fire up, keep
it up. But the open invitation, mister Whittt, is always there.

(29:18):
That's why we brought you on tonight, and I'm glad
you had an opportunity to talk about, unquestionably the Marlins topic,
Ryan Sandberg and the Speedway Classic. Great stuff. We're going
to get you involved in three topics that couldn't have
gotten involved than any better of the three that we
have JD. So great stuff tonight, and we look forward
to bringing you back on a future episode. One hunderneaths

(29:39):
it's a baseball talk, okay, mister.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Wyatt, Yes, sir, my pleasure being here. Thank you so much,
as all all right, thank you so.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Much, thank you.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Thanks so.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
With that said, why don't we just continue the narrative
with J. D. Wyatt and talk about the Speedway Classic.
Step it's a lot of good points. I think they'll
bring it back again because they see how the potential
of the event in terms of trying power. But what
are your thoughts about what took place with ninety one

(30:11):
and thirty two, albeit minus a lot of food, it's
a pretty interesting event. What is good?

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yeah, they're you know, obviously they'll do it again. I mean,
you know, anytime you're drawing that kind of a crowd,
they're going to want to improve upon it. You know,
it's always tough the first time you're doing something and
then you figure it out along the way. You know,
you try not to make those mistakes. But the real
success of it is the fan attendance, right, people wanted
to go. They know that it'll be improved upon in

(30:41):
the future, and I bet it's going to end up
being a really great event moving forward.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, I think so canny, you.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Know, it is a great event. But to JD's point,
like you did all of that expense to put a
baseball feel inside this, you know, massive track, and you
only do one game and then it's done, and it's
like I could see where it should be, like more
of a weekend series or having other teams play in there.

(31:12):
You know, have it like a week long because maybe
the NASCAR is going to be gone for a week
and you could do a couple different different teams in there.
I thought it was cool. What I also thought was
neat is when they had an unfortunate the rain delay,
but they brought in Chase Elliott and two of the
NASCAR's drivers so they could talk about how what it's

(31:36):
like driving around that track and on the track. And
then they're like, well, when people first told us they
were going to put a baseball field inside this track,
We're like, well, how like how is that going to look?
They couldn't conceptually visualize it, and then to see it
come to fruition, I thought was cool. But again for
all that expense for just one game, I get it,

(31:59):
you know, like field the Dreams is now gonna build
a permanent like a stadium there so that they can
do more of the same feel the Dreams games. But
I thought it was cool. It's too bad and unfortunate
with the weather, but you're gonna get that in baseball
when you have an open stadium.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I mean you just never know.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, see j jd Wye did bring up some outstanding points. Sorry,
I can't see. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I mean, I mean, it's great that it drew fans,
but some of the fans could even see the game.
If you see some of the views that they got,
I mean, why not just why would you put like
make it so small? Why not make it wide open
for the entire track to at least the entire track
to at least see it. I guess there's gonna be
some challenges challenges seeing why is with the very least
make make them have a shot at seeing it, because

(32:46):
if they don't want to see it, they might as
well go home and do something else with their day
rather than paying probably north of three hundred bucks to
go to even enter enter into the track. But I mean,
they're gonna do it again. I think it's right that
baseball is kind of starting to become a maginative. But man,
the old layout was a disaster. Like you know, people

(33:06):
are gonna go to a once in a lifetime event.
I promise you they are going to pour money into it.
You saw what happened at the Field of Dreams event
in Iowa when the Yankees and the White Sox are
playing each other and they had the throwback jerseys on
from from the movie. You knew that that was going
to draw people, and and so why would you why
would you not prepare and have just an abundance of food.

(33:28):
I mean, you have food at the track when people
are there. I promise you it's there. But you know,
I think baseball kind of poorly prepared on that front.
I don't think they really did a whole lot of
the logistical homework. It's great that I drew the fans, though,
but if you see what happened on the inside, you know,
you know, it wasn't as good as as as they're
making it out to be. And with and with that said,

(33:48):
I think I think it's gonna be. I'm glad that
you know Tennessee is you know, particularly Tennessee is showing
some interest in baseball, because I know Nashville very bad,
very badly would like to be an expansion team. It's
not the first time that they've tried to make that happen.
But and it's good. It's good to see that they
are just really showing interest. But if you know that
major League Baseball isn't in that area or in that state,

(34:11):
it's going to draw trust be especially with the Atlanta Braves,
which are considered the South, the South's major League baseball team,
and knowing that they're going to be in town, you
should have known better and should have planned better logistically,
you know. Overall, though the entire the event was it
was cool to see ninety one thousand taking the game,
but the entire operation was was It was a complete disaster,

(34:33):
worse than the Montreal Expos Stadium.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
To me, you really feel that you know what to
do anyways, all right, George, Oh, come on, I being
so hard on that.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
A lot of good people worked a lot of good
hours to get this thing done, to get that turf ready,
to get those stands built, those dugouts built. Come on,
this was not an overnight day. Now. I'm sorry about
the food. Okay, sorry about that, you ran out of food,
fun act. The matter is is Fox Sports. Okay, they
left that game on even during the rain delay, as

(35:05):
long as they could.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
You kidding me?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
All that free publicity for MLB Saturday night, even though
they got to Lowsey first inning hardly in and then
they came back with the with the with the resumption
on Sunday afternoon, which nobody expected and of course not
everybody's gonna come back. I don't even know what they
had on Sunday. I didn't hear an official count. They

(35:27):
got ninety one thousand. Of course that's that's the gate
on Saturday night. But Sunday, god only knows. But hey,
I don't blame the fans. This is a great event.
I do think that they should have had more events,
like you said Southern frid regarding you know, college teams
playing triple A, double A, whatever team's coming in and

(35:48):
playing and using that field, high school teams or whatever.
That was a mistake not utilizing that for before and afterwards.
But great job, Great job Tennessee, Great job Bristol.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'll go back to what Skip said. You tell me
you do an event, you're going to learn from it.
The first time we had to see what reactable if
you had a lot of people in there. There's some
good things, but yeah, obviously you want to runa to
make a weekend out of it. You don't know what
happened to those individuals that they lost their hotel taking
every game. What happens not like that area's hotel, rich
I've been there a few times. It's a beautiful part
of the country. It really really is. But the reality is,

(36:23):
here's what benefited from the Saturday night show that Fox
had all that time to fill in the airtime. You
know what this is. How about the fact that they
talk a lot about the trade deadline to fill in
their time. That was smart, It really was. If you're
going to fill in time, Georgie, all we did once
upon a time was filling sit towers on a Saturday night. Yeah,

(36:45):
we were working at a fella in whatever we could,
and Fox had an opportunity to talk about MLB and
the trade deadline, they were able to do it. Yeah. Well,
like Southern five said, the food situation, I certainly got
to be able to go out there and have your
fair share of it. But I think it's a good event.
I think they'll definitely do what they have to do.
Let's go back to what both says. MLB looks like
they tried to hurt their own product and just well,

(37:07):
on the surface, it looks like they really did. But
on the other hand, it was good publicity as well.
All right, So then, Pride, we'll give you as much
time as we can want to keep this thing move along.
You have any final thoughts on this topic.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yes, sir, So the last few things I will say
is yes, like George said, congratulations to MLB and Tennessee
for having their first ever game in the state of
Tennessee at the pro level.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
That was great Bristol.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I don't understand what happened there with the consultation about
the food and all that stuff, but it was fantastic
East Tennessee State. You get the turf from the field,
that's also fantastic. And yeah, let's just not pretend that
Bristol isn't a huge stadium. The attendance was good for

(37:59):
an mL B game, but when you've got a coliseum
that's built to seat one hundred and fifty thousand people,
it's gonna look empty if you only got thirty or
forty thousand there on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
To follow it up, Okay, it's good point. You know what,
Southern Front I wants you to stay on for the
rest of this segment because we're gonna instead of me
singing rain dropski falling on my head, I'm gonna use
a little bit of the rain theme here. How's that
We're gonna give you a bonus one. All right, Southern Frying,
get this on June sixth, nineteen seventy six, the Astrodome

(38:35):
experiences at first and only rainout. A huge rainstorm drops
seven inches of water, bugs the city and twenty five
fans canoed to the Astrodome and get their rain jeck step.
Can you believe that a rain out at the astid
only only thing of such kind? I had to plug
it in with this topic three week less because they're

(38:58):
talking about rain skip. Did you know that the Asdome
actually had one? Yeah, rained out?

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Uh yeah, I think I remembered hearing about that at
some point. You know, a nature, nature's a forse right,
We're never going to be able to overcome what nature
wants to do. You know. You see that with the
Tampa Tampa Ray Stadium. The whole the whole roof just
blows off when it wants to when nature is involved.
So uh yeah, that'd be pretty interesting for the fans there.

(39:29):
You finally go to a place and you're like, yeah,
no rainouts. I know when I was a little kid,
I would have loved to have had that because I
always cried when our Little league games got rained out,
and then that would have been a real bummer. If
you go and you don't think you're gonna get rained
out and then you do. So, uh yeah, that's an
interesting thing. And and you know, ever, anything can happen
in this game, especially rainouts and domes.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, that's why I brought it up because it was
a good corresponding topic to go along with the Speedway Classic.
All right, so then, Brian, you get a bonus topic
here about the Astrodome. I know, before you were born,
but still, let's talking about the fact that a dome
got rained out.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I can talk about what happened with the rays out
and drop can Field. Forget that. We're talking about the Astrodome,
a place by the way that I was. Actually I
saw one game when the Lions took on the Houston
Oilers and Barry Sanders got a ten thousand the yard.
That's how I'll always remember the place, George. But all right,
so we talks about the astro Dome.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I can't believe that it ever had a rain out.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
You hear these people these days that they say the
Super Bowl should always be played in a dome stadium.
Obviously you would have to do so because of the
halftime show. But the Astrodome, the thing that I loved
about it is that big center field pole and that
raised centerfield. Wasn't that that's in the Astrodome, right, that's true? Yeah,

(40:58):
so I love that aspect of you know, an incline
in centerfield.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
I'm sure the players don't love it, but I love it.
And yeah, let's get in to George. What are your thoughts?
By friend?

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Well, that is unusual, Scott got me on this one. Man.
When I review the topic, I forgot that this happened.
And I'm not going to make reference, but I've seen
this happen in another dome stadium. It does happen on occasion.
Too much ice, too much wind, too much water on
those Teflon roofs. But the Astrodome was not a Teflon roof.

(41:33):
That's what makes this so unusual because that was a
hard fiber they used, unlike some of the ones like
in Contiac, Michigan, or the Metro Dome in Minnesota, and
this one in Tampa Bay that couldn't take the last
wind in hurricane that destroyed it. So what I'm saying
is that it is very unusual to see this happen.

(41:54):
And the Afterdome had many, many great things and events
that they've hosted. But boy, that was really one for
the book. Scott, you got me on this one. So
congrats for bringing this one up from nineteen seventy six,
the bi centennial of the USA.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, yeah, all right, can't see what you thought about
the Astrodome wasn't the waterproof well?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I know of the Astrodome as also being called the
House of pain when Jerry Glanville was the head coach
of the huge oilers. Where they're where, where they were
they were they were a dirty team, let me tell you.
But you know, and also also Lyndon Johnson having allegedly
having a room in there, never staying there, but if

(42:37):
the former president felt like it, he could. But it's
you know what happens. I mean when it pours out
outside that that that rate could come through. I've seen
it happen in Milwaukee too, where you kind of feel
a little bit of a range drop in there. Not
enough to cause delay though, but when when it's pouring
out there that you know, mother nature will always find

(42:58):
a way. I mean, if anybody who who watched this
Jurassic Park, you know the message there is mother and
nature will always find a way there. And you know,
it's you know, it's just one of those things that happened.
Definitely must have been interesting that day. I'm sure in Texas,
you know, especially I'm sure at Texas when it rains,
it rains, and it might have been just one of
those days where it decided to rain a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Very interesting. So yesterday had opportunity. Susan Lodeman, the New
York Yankees legendary announceder, what treasure she is? So why
am I bringing Susan up in here? Don't wear it camp,
but they shove here. So that's what you off. So
we're gonna talk about wait wait.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Wait, wait wait, I didn't get to talk about the Astrodome.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Okay, So did you know if they the Astros never
even printed on their tickets, the traditional rain check printed
wasn't even on their tickets and the reason why they
canceled the game. Remember, the Astrodome floor was forty five
feet below ground level, so the lower ramps and entries

(44:08):
were flooded so you couldn't get into down there. Now,
the tropical storms started around noon, they said that day.
The teams were at the stadium at one o'clock, but
the umpires who were staying in a hotel two miles
away from the stadium, started to make their way at
three o'clock there, they couldn't make it through. Their cars

(44:31):
were flooded and they left them stranded in the streets,
so they couldn't get to the stadium, and they figured
they had to cancel the game because it wasn't safe
for even the fans to try and get to the stadium.
So that's why it wasn't necessarily the stadium itself was
like raining in. It was the fact that it was
so flooded because the streets got so and because it's underground,

(44:54):
that's why the game was canceled there. So that's what
I wanted to add.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Oh thank you Kendy for about That's okay, all right, So,
as I mentioned before, we talk about Susan Woalman and
an opportunity to meet her. What a real sweetheart she has,
that she's a treasure in this game. Why am I
bringing her up right now? We talk about Kim in
last week, so let's I want to bring this interesting
historical perspective about women and professional baseball. Now I know

(45:20):
none of us were alive, I'd be questioning if any
of our grandparents were alive. But on July fifth, eighteen
ninety eight, people, where does he get this? Because I'm
a diehard journalist who loved exactly research, and that's why
we're coming up with Lizzy Arlington becomes the first woman
to play pro ball for the Redding cool Hevers of

(45:45):
the Eastern League of the Minors. And we talked about
Kimmy skip aren't you loving the history that we are
throwing your way tonight? My Skipper?

Speaker 7 (45:55):
The he's pretty awesome. I mean, that's pretty amazing. I
just love here in stats like that. I love the
history of baseball. It's such an interesting sport for so
many things have happened. And for her to come out
in eighteen ninety eight, I think my grandfather was born
in nineteen twelve or something. For her to go out

(46:16):
there and to be able to play, you know, in
professional baseball, that is so awesome and so progressive obviously
for that time a period in the history. So that
that's really cool, and you know, hopefully more more and
more people will know that interesting fact, because so thanks

(46:38):
for bringing that up, Scott. That's really cool.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Oh you're welcome, Stiff. I told you at some particular
point when you have your own show. Don't be surprised
what else I come up with, but right now, because
that time will be come in sooner than later.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
Let me tell you, how do you find something like that?
Boy the way, do you have like a baseball encyclopedia?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, it's in my head. It's called pick up this goal.
You know, it's called skipp called journalists my secrets at
another time. But that's why we bring out her and
make sure that when I tell you we have a
loaded show and our text messages, I tell you got
a loaded show, you just have to know where it's
coming from and know one thing. You go learn a

(47:22):
lot when you get things I got through your way.
Now I really believe them even more. I know about
Lizzie Arlington to be aware of the next fact. Ever
heard of Vin Scully? Guess what? He was pretty good?
Heard harwal He was pretty good. Okay, now, I'm not
putting myself in their class occasion, but that's what she

(47:44):
called the journalistic people like us, and to dig the
stuffs for people like learn. All right, Katie's forgetting about
you this time.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
I just love hearing these stories about these women pioneers
setting the stone, setting the you know, the tone for
people for other women to follow. Like we've talked about
how there's a new softball league and how everything's working
out that way. It's just cool to really see that.

(48:18):
I couldn't believe when you had that topic on and
how far back that goes. But I also do want
to say J. D Wyatt, Southern gentleman who's having he's
having internet issues. So he apologizes he will not be
on the rest of the show. He might jump in
the chat room, you never know, but you can always
find him again on Fire Up on Thursday nights. But

(48:41):
he does apologize his internet's just having issues, So that's okay.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Well, he's a great part of our network and we
love having this guy on schipul. Let me tell you
when when we're going to bring him back on. To
get to know this guy. He's really one of the
best commentators that we have and he's come a long
waysce we brought him on. So jd Wyatt, thanks of
the contributions that you provided tonight, And don't worry, the
open invitation is very much in Taxil. You have a

(49:08):
zero story about the far I'm to turn again, all right,
Candy continue the narrative.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
No, it was just I just said that it's great
to see women pioneers and them setting the tone in
the way for others. It opens doors instead of closing doors,
and I love to see opening the doors.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
So it's all good, all right, George?

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, I mean, you know, when you think about the
women's professional league that was way, way way after this
one that you just mentioned this lady that broke the
gender barrier back into eighteen ninety eight, I believe you said,
it is quite incredible when you think about it. Now.
That's just she wasn't playing in what would have been
the National or the American League at the time, but

(49:52):
that doesn't matter. She broke the barrier. She broke it
in a game that was for that was counted as
a game in the league that she played in. Hey,
that's great. I really think that is a great idea.
My question is when hell are we going to get
some female umpires in Major League Baseball. Now we've tried
three or four of these ladies have been an exhibition game,

(50:15):
but let's talk about that in a future show. But anyways,
when a barrier is broken, a gender barrier, people don't
think back, it could have happened before. And man, oh man,
with this one, Scott, you nailed it. Who would have
ever thought before this country even was that at nineteen hundred,
that we already already had a lady playing in a

(50:37):
professional league, even if it was quote unquote minor league ball,
doesn't matter. She broke the barrier, and God bless her
for doing so great, right, I can't sy I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
You know, obviously baseball's kind of falling behind on the progression.
On progression. They used to be at the forefront of it.
Now they kind of fall behind. I think the NFL
has kind of taken over on that run. You know,
it's Hey, she got to walk across the across the dirt,
all right, and actually playing a game. That's that's like,
that's something about most of this country, you know, cannot say.

(51:14):
No matter no matter what time period was she she
played in a in a professional game. You know, not
many people could say that she was out on the
she was she was out there in between the lines,
give it in her all, and she did it. It's
it's fantastic. I mean, you know, you know, but for
people who want to know, you want to hear the stories.
Just go by the batting cages for a few minutes.
You know you'll you'll hear a lot.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
H okay, great stuff. Okay, Well tell you what ready
for this one guy that won't be bothering the Detroit tires?
Is this okay? And Manuel class placed on leave as
part of the gambling investigation. You know, skip, this guy
is a no no and he won't be playing no

(51:58):
baseball for a while. His locker was clear. What are
your thoughts about Emmanuel class A the guardians having some
time to shout out. I think there was another guy
that went out there and got suspended, but I'll get
into it another time. I want to focus on the
Emmanual class A, who was a closer last year. Skeep.

Speaker 7 (52:16):
Yeah, you know, it's tough to lose somebody that important
on your roster, especially this time of year. But you know,
I'm not sure what exactly he's accused of, but they
must have some you know, some kind of evidence to
be able to go ahead and suspend him. I know
it's with pay, so you know, it would be interesting

(52:38):
to see when this story comes out on how a
player you know, can take advantage of the gambling that's
going on that was introduced by the by Major League Baseball.
And I'm sure that major League Baseball had to have
thought that this kind of thing could happen when they
kind of introduced and really supported the betting that was

(53:00):
coming on. So this is an interesting thing. It's it's interesting.
It'll be interesting to see the way Baseball handles it.
It'll be interesting to see if they do dig something up,
if they let us let us know what happened.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Candy has some more perspective on Emanuel Close.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
It's always hard to talk about something when you don't
know all the facts, and so it's really you know,
I guess I would say little premature until I know more.
And sometimes we'll never know the whole story because sometimes
we only get a bet or portion of it. But
anybody at this point that bets on their team, their sport,

(53:45):
they know better. We've talked about this in all the
different sports from football to baseball. Like I mean, the
whole reason why we don't have Pete Rose in the
Hall of Fame is because of this. Like this isn't
something new, but yet I find it interesting that we
have new ways, that we're still talking about it, that
people are still doing this, but it'll just remain to

(54:06):
be seen what exactly we learn of what happens to
him and what he did exactly.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
So George, yeah, this is it's not a good look
right now. You know, the Guardians had a starter, Luis Ortiz,
who previously was placed on non display a paid leave
through the All Star break, and then they extended his
his time away to August thirty first. But now the

(54:37):
Guardians have this one. This was this was hanging over
their head and there will be a thorough investigation. And
like you said, Candy, we don't have all the facts here.
I'm not here. You guys aren't here to judge him
one way or the other. We do know that if
you think you're going to get away with this as
a professional athlete, think again. Okay, we've seen it, like

(54:57):
you said, in football, We've seen it in baseball, We've
seen it in all sports. Uh, you know, whether it's gambling,
whether it's other things going on. But the fact of
the matter is is while they're on leave. Uh you know,
Class A and RTIs are permitted, you know, with the organization,
but they just you know, don't have any access to

(55:18):
to the team's facilities. You know, it's it's just Cleveland
has had just a dump of a year, let's face it.
I mean, everybody was thinking that Detroit and Cleveland we're
going to battle for the for the crown, but Cleveland
has been so far behind in the standings. But I'll
tell you what this is like, really really a slap
in the face that you got to you know, Sideline,

(55:39):
your top reliever, one of your top pitchers, three point
two three e r a in forty seven and a
third innings for this season. So but it has to be.
It has to be done so they can conclude continue
the investigation, can'tee.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I mean, I never had Cleveland battle and with Detroit
any way to truthful, I had, I had Kansas City
in there. I thought, you know, after Josh Naylor was
traded that they would really miss his power, and they
and they clearly do. But every spring training, I'm sure Skip,
I'm pretty sure Skip could attest this. They have you
sit in like the clubhouse or a room or whatever,

(56:17):
and make and and you listen to the no to
the rule that's written in every single clubhouse. I know
of some guys who had to read it out loud.
I'm talking they take it seriously. They hammered into you
with They beat it into you like a drum to
every single spring. As long as you are on a roster,
you're gonna be listening to that speech. I promise you,

(56:38):
you know. But you know, again, it shouldn't be any different.
Even if MLB was embracing gambling. The rule hasn't changed.
You can't mess around with betting and baseball. You know,
I don't know what Classe did. Maybe he's just wrong place,
wrong time, you know, you know, I know this year
he you know, obviously last year was historic. He wasn't

(56:58):
he wasn't nearly as good as he was as last year.
But you know that's gonna Regression is gonna happen when
you have an e r A less than in e
r A. That's that's you know, that's zero point six
y one. I mean, that's that's nasty. I mean, but
you know, but either way though, you shouldn't be either
way though, even if he comes out okay on this,
you shouldn't be messing around with gambling. Even if even

(57:20):
if you skirt by it. Baseball specifically and also probably
all sports, they specifically tell you not to do that
because it hurts the integrity of the game. If blass A, really,
God forbid, was messing around with it, imagine how that
looks to the other team when he's when he's talking
to other people on the other team near their clubhouse.
You know, it's it's awful, it's stupid. I'm I know

(57:43):
of a situation where Buie Cutin suspects suspended Mickey Manto
and Willie Mays despite them not even being near baseball
for even having anything to do with a casino, despite
them despite them not gambling, and just kind of being
there for quote unquote promote for promotional promotional services. But
either way, baseball takes this rule very seriously. It doesn't

(58:04):
matter that sports gambling has become popular and will probably
soon be legalized in all fifty states. You know, it
doesn't matter. You know that baseball tells its players and
managers and coaches and probably Rob Manfred two for that matter,
not to do that. And Emmanuel class A Gett you know,
not sure if he did it or not, but since
he was around it, he's going he's going to have

(58:27):
to He might be looking for a new job very soon.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Great points, Eric, I'm glad all right, So here's what
here's what we've got here. Number one, their uniforms are
no longer in the building. Number two, Candy, you touched
on it earlier, Pete Rose, great example, gone gambling period,
when when you release the story has nothing to do
with it gambling people. I don't care if you release

(58:52):
it now, I don't care if you release it in
the year of three thousand. You're not allowed to do it.
Mat to what Kancie said, Mickey Manno right, Willie Mays
getting near a casino, Dana wance a round, thankfully, Peter,
you brod you. Maybe I'm but that for another day.
So Classe and Ortiz, as far as I'm concerned, there's

(59:14):
a reason why they're no longer playing ball right now.
Time will tell what happens. Because you get in your
gambling and they're constantly preaching it all the time. That
is bad stuff, it really is. I'm glad Eric brought
out some interesting points. All right, Katie, we're gonna go
to a station break. We have a lot more topics
to get to. I know, some of the ones that
we've already talked about. We're gonna be time consuming. That's

(59:35):
why we got him in the first hour, a lot
more information coming up. He thought our friend Lizzie Arlington
was interesting. I have a couple more things I'm gonna
pull out of my pocket, so stay tuned. After the
station grade.

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Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Back to you, Scott, Yeah, py digits, you did this beginning,
but that's okay. You can always catch a replay on
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as soon as possible. Right, I'm glad you came on tonight.
I still have a lot of really good topics p
digits for us the way, so we'll get going with

(01:01:59):
them now. So I'm glad you're on tonight. Well, everybody
thought Lizzie Arlington was interesting. I'm glad everybody waited until
act of the station break for this next one, because
here's a couple more that are we're throwing out there.
We talked about Nick Kurtz last week, right, but on

(01:02:19):
June twenty first, nineteen seventy, sees are goody airs. Yet
people sees are goody airs. At a seventh to seven day,
he picks up six singles and a double is a
tired fall to the Cleveland Indians in twelve any do
to one in a career day, but the Tiggers lost. Yeah,

(01:02:43):
sees are duty ears. And by the way, well, and
we'll talk about with this Mo're on next week's edition
one hundred and eight SIYES Baseball talk about We talked
about Nick Kurtz and Kyle Sowers both one Player of
the Month for July. But I'll get more involved with
it next week. Just want to get it out there
so that Merlin fans are listening, we will be talking
about it as well. So Skip, you ever heard of

(01:03:04):
of our duty eras before?

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
I have not. You know guess what you have not today, Scott.
It seems oh yeah, yeah, that's right. And seven six singles,
that's pretty tough to do. Yeah, I'd have to say
that that might be the most impressive thing that there was.
Six of them are singles.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Yeah, I tell you, Skip, do we get your show
out there? I gave you an edge immacation of six
singles one day. Oh my goodness. I don't know he
was married back then, but I'll bet it if he was,
his wife was extremely proud of them that night. I
haven't had much caffy today, people. All I had was

(01:03:45):
a lot of candy. Seven for seven, kudos.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
To him because I mean, going seven, going seven for seven,
and remember you're going against some great like you're in
the major leagues. It's not like you're, you know, hitting
off a tee or whatnot. That is just I mean,
that's crazy that you seven for seven. Nowadays we're looking
at we're lucky if people are hitting three hundred and

(01:04:15):
you're saying he batted a thousand that day. Like, that's
just crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Do you think, Georgia, you're alive then? Were you there
for that game?

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
I was not there, but I'll tell you. I'll tell
you what I was being a couple of my buddies
were playing some catching and some ball where we go
to church there, not far from where I grew up.
I kid you not. That still stands out in my mind.
I think we must have a couple of us must
have brought our radios and heard the great Ernie Harwell

(01:04:46):
talk about it, because I know that for during that
game we were playing.

Speaker 9 (01:04:51):
Some ball ourselves and listened to this stat though, guys,
he had one hundred and twenty eight, that's it, one
hundred and twenty eight hits in his career here in
the big leagues. Yet he still went seven for seven.
It was remarkable.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
I know. I just remember as a kid, I was
just so excited for for him and the Tigers that
day and the rest of his career not so exciting.
But but he stands tall with that seven for seven
and like you said, skip six of those were singles.
That's another thing that really stands out too, So George,
that that's how old I am guys, I can remember

(01:05:26):
that him doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, so, George, all the years that you told me
you ever think I would have come up with a
stat like this on a national show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
I never doubt you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
But I don't know when they are going to be
pertinent or not. No, I'm just saying, no, that was great.
That was great.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Anyways. That's why don't worry. Skip. Let me tell you
when you get to hang around like for it a
little bit. This guy here a lot of story Skip, Skip,
is just he's just getting familiar with this program. Yeah,

(01:06:08):
but he's a quick learner.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Or Scott or Scott angering people in other countries before
before social media and then slamming papers on people's desks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah, he never forget that one. All right, So tell
me a little bit about Caesar. Oh, I got another
one that's gonna make even more painful after this one. Well,
I'm bringing them all out tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I mean seven or seven, I mean even that, even
back then, when the pitches weren't nearly as fast as
they are now. Where the guy in the back of
the pulpens throwing ninety five plus two. You know, it's
still impressive though, to maintained that concentration for that long time.
I mean after like after three at bath you can
after after three at bats you sometimes go up there
and you're beat after those two. But you know it's

(01:06:55):
it's still impressive though, what he was able to do.
I mean, sometimes it's better to be remembered for one
great thing rather than a bunch of mediocre things.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
True, we'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Let's ask just ask Armando Galarraga.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Yeah, yeah, smart Eric, Well get really that's the reason
why you're the natural in this show. Man tell you skip.
I'll tell you this guy. If we need a third
wheel on that Thursday show we're putting well, I mean
our show that we're putting together. Eric is definitely going
to be on Speed Style. How you like that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
You get to know your young teammate seven for seven,
I say, it was a pretty good day, but one
day that a lot of Detroiters would certainly like to forget.
For Dyke torn and I in particular, is that fred
Lynn drove in ten runs and with a three, with
three homers and a triple, leading to Boston with a

(01:07:50):
fifteen to one winner of Detroit. And it would be
thirty seven years later and Ryan Brown would hit three
home runs in a triple in the same game. Remember
that unfortunate day that fred Linne put on himself on
the mat, George, Yeah, the Tigers.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
Yeah, it wasn't at that game. But I'll tell you what.
He just loved. He feasted on Tiger pitching at Tiger's Stadium,
fred lind and Goyle boy to accomplish what he did
with that stad oh man. But he was a Tiger killer.
I mean he really was. I know, I don't care
if it was Ralph Hauker or you know, Sparky or

(01:08:31):
whoever was the manager. Freddy Lynn really destroyed the Tigers
a lot. He loved hitting at Tiger Stadium. But yeah,
that's extraordinary. That is really extraordinary to have that, and
like you said, for Brown now to do it, and uh,
it's remarkable. It's it's one of those things. And if
you're a Tiger fan, of course you hated it. And
to lose so kind of awful fifteen to one, Hue

(01:08:58):
Freddy has off to Freddy l Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Yeah, I know it was more painful to ten runs
riving ten runs or three home runs and fifteen to
one loss that one. Yeah, thankfully they don't go ahead,
and baseball contrope is running up to score or rite
that sort of thing like they do. There Eric some
talks about what mister Lynn did well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
First off, just just a disclaimer, I root for anything
bad to happen to the Boston Red Sox, no no
matter who they're playing, you know, but you know, I
think fred Lyn actually would have been a Hall of
Famer had he stayed healthy instead of having all those
ailments and injuries. But you know, it's impressive though. He
put himself on the map quite well that day, yes, sir,
And you know, it's just it's impressive to see. Obviously

(01:09:44):
he was a he was a great player. I think
he would have been a Hall of Famer had he
stayed healthy. And you know, it's just all great to see.
Although I will say though I root for anything bad
to happen to the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Well wonder why, Okay, you got at least something in
Milwaukee with Ryan Braun and fred Linn.

Speaker 6 (01:10:06):
Kudos to fred Linn. I mean having that driving in
ten runs, that's that's crazy that I mean, that's that's awesome. Yes,
Ryan Broun played for the Brewers for how long I mean,
if any of you know this. A couple of weeks ago,

(01:10:29):
they had the twenty fifth anniversary of American Family Fields,
which is Miller Park, and they actually had a home run.
I thought this was the coolest thing that a baseball
team has done in honor to celebrate the twenty fifth
season of the Milwaukee Brewers playing in that stadium, they
brought back a bunch of their alumni and they did

(01:10:51):
a home run hitting contest between two and they broke
them into two teams and had a home run hitting contest.
Ryan Braun was on one of those teams. I just
thought it was really cool. Last year, Scott, when you
and I went back to Milwaukee, we were at the
game where they honored Ryan Braun and they had a ceremony,
and I'll never forget that because it was the last

(01:11:14):
time I was in Milwaukee that I saw Ryan Braun
and Bobbyuker together and it was just it was just
a really great moment. So for you to bring this
up in his name again is bringing back some really
good memories.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
So thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I was going to add I was going to add
that during that home run derby, I felt I felt
incredibly old, just watching it because I remember I remember
when they were actually playing and doing that in a
live game. If I felt, you know, it was it
definitely aged me quite a bit. And I will I
will say though that I was actually at Ryan bronzough

(01:11:50):
the game. He announced his retirement when the Brewers clinched
the twenty twenty one n L Central Crown.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
So Skip, I got to ask you a question. That's
when I'm thinking about half, you know, manager on here.
If you had a guy like Bred Lynn wegat that
much have it on the team driving in ten RBI,
what are you thinking about in the pilot's chair.

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
You know, it's it's tough, you know. You obviously you
don't want the other team's best hitter to beat you.
You know, especially if you're a pitching coach talking to
your staff, you really want to uh try to limit
the damage that one of the best hitters on the
team is going to do. But sometimes, like George said,

(01:12:36):
you can be a Detroit killer. You know, it's just
for whatever reason. When Fred came into Detroit or was
playing against Detroit, he had this unbelievable confidence that allowed
him to go out there, be nice and free and
just play baseball the way it's supposed to be played,

(01:12:58):
and he had ultra success against this against them. You
see this a lot, right, You see this one player
what for whatever reason, they're just doing the job against
the team they're playing, and you got to be aware
of that as a manager or a coach, like, hey,
this guy, he kills us every time he plays against

(01:13:19):
this He might not be the best hitter on their
team right now, but when he comes into Detroit, he
is their best hitter. So we got to watch out
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah. Yeah, he reached a lot of havoc that day,
and only a Detroit would bring up such an embarrassing
fact to hawk my old team. Well, you know something,
before I talk about my allegiances with us, with the
Tigers and the Miami Marlins, I am a baseball guy
first and foremost. This is my passion. I have a

(01:13:51):
show on it, and I'm going to tell you what
I've told the Marlin pir guy is one of my
favorite guys out here. I'm gonna do everything I can
to promote the sport, give me what I need, and
they're pretty targeted out in Miami. I will say this,
so I am a baseball purist. That's why I have
guys like Mickey Callaway. That's why I have plans for
this guy. I have a lot of my bag of checks,

(01:14:15):
and you know what, the next one coming up forbid on.
Underneath bigball talk is the fact that Nolan Aernado was
one of seven players in MLS the history they hit
fifty home runs and not win a Gold Glove. How
surreal is that?

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
Skip, Wait, well, you're gonna have to repeat this. I
must have misheard this. No, no repeat that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
That means if you go ahead and hear it again,
everything else is gonna hear it again. Nolan Aernado is
one of seven players in MLB history they hit three
hundred and fifty plus home runs and not win a Gold.

Speaker 7 (01:14:56):
Club No One Aeronado has not won a Gold.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Gloved fifty plus home runs.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
What do you think of that? Beyddbelief? To me, we're like, hey, man,
you're you're awesome, you know, buck out of him. Watching
him make some plays and the way he played third
base was pretty amazing to me. So I think that
that's pretty pretty impressive stat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
I did not know that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:30):
I would have guessed he won eight Gold Gloves.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
And fifty home runs he took out the whooping stick
and doesn't have a gold glove. Only on one hundred
eights just baseball, Doug people Elan Aernando didn't want to
get trade of Detroit, didn't think he could win the
World Series there, but three hundred and fifty long gone
and no gold glove. Heck a little player, Candy.

Speaker 6 (01:15:59):
I'm shocked, are you? I'm trying to look it up myself.
You know, I'm a crack and research step stat to.
How about you going to one of the other guys first.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
No problem, George, Well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
I'm gonna take a little different position because a lot
of times the strongest hitters are not the strongest guys
in the field. You know. It doesn't okay, So there
are I know there are always exceptions, and this Nolan
are Not is an exception. I'm not saying that he
wasn't a decent fielder. All I'm saying is he was

(01:16:37):
much more important and impactful as a hitter, obviously with
three hundred and fifty more home runs. Can I think
of somebody offhand, not on the top of my head,
I can. I'm sure there must be guys out that
never won. I mean, but nowadays, I mean the Tigers there,
they hardly ever win a Gold Glove any of these

(01:16:58):
ball players that we got now in Detroit. Maybe there's
a few young ones coming up obviously that will win one.
But the three point fifty is a unique accomplishment, as
we all know. And it's the fact that he didn't
win a Gold Glove means he is probably so sol fielder,
maybe most of the time. But it's hard to do both,

(01:17:20):
it is. I mean, you know a lot of defensive guys,
you know, they're not always the best fielders. I don't know,
That's all I got, all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Right, Well, it's hard to find a guy who could
do both. I mean, let's be honest, because both of
them are both offense and defense are very taxing on
the body regardless. So like you know, if most teams
are most teams these days are willing to put up
with one thing, that one thing that's not good as
for the sake of the other thing being just off
the charge. I mean, no or not though at one

(01:17:51):
point was considered the best defender at third base in
the league. I mean, the guy makes unreal plays. There
are countless times where he's where he's made some including
this year. I mean, his defense is taking a step
back a little bit, but that just happened when you
get older. I mean, you know, can't prevent that from happening,
but there's some it's just you know, he's just I'm

(01:18:12):
just it's to me, it's the close equivalent of the
fact that Nolan Ryan never won a cy young and
that guy did. That guy was just unhittable forever, where
he's probably the only picture that you probably won't see
another one like him, where he could he could throw
some fuzz and then he still got it going going
near near age forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
But yeah, just a very shocking Let me correct you.
I guess I misread that stat so let me. I
just came to gave me some clarification. But so I'm
human like anybody else, So I'm looking at I'm revisiting it.
He's one of seven players in MLB to hit three
and fifteen plus home months and win ten plus gold gloves.
So I apologize, Okay, I apologize for throwing you people

(01:18:59):
off a little, but when I just wanted to set
the record straight, well, I have an opportunity on the
show to do it. So if you want to change
their opinions. But if anybody went three hundred and fifty
plus on runs and then they would make it a
very surreal stat who knows what will come up with.
So I just stand corrected on that. So I apologize
if I for y'all so skip give us a different
opinion on it, and I got plenty of other ones.

(01:19:21):
Don't worry.

Speaker 7 (01:19:22):
Yeah, like I said, I would have guessed. I would
have guessed eight gold gloves. I think that you know,
he was, like Katzie said, you watch Sports Center back
in the day when he was in his prime. He
was the third baseman on there making all of the
amazing plays. You know, Like I said, watching him from
the opposite dugout, it was pretty amazing. What great hands

(01:19:43):
he had going to his left and right specifically, he
was unbelievable. Really loved the way he played the ball
down the line and coming in on the ball was tremendous.
You know. Obviously being a hitter in Colorado that helps
you out little bit. So to me, it might be
the gold gloves that are a little bit more impressive

(01:20:05):
than the three hundred and fifty homers in this instance.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Great point, all right, Kenny go ahead takes for updating me,
so now you can go ahead, and he was two cents.

Speaker 7 (01:20:16):
So.

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
He's widely recognized as one of the best defensive third basemen.
He is the only infielder to win the Gold Glove
Award in each of his first ten MLB seasons. He
has got just some crazy stats. He became the youngest
player in Rockies franchise history to reach home one hundred

(01:20:39):
home runs. He has hit for the cycle twice, once
on June eighteenth, twenty seventeen, and again on July one,
twenty twenty two. He became the sixth player in history
to finish off such a performance with a walk off
home run. In twenty seventeen, he became the eleventh Major
leaguer and the first third basement in history to drive

(01:21:01):
in one hundred and thirty or more runs in three
consect successive seasons. He's just got I mean, he can
do it defensively and offensively. He's somebody that I wish
was on my team.

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
You and everybody else, all right, George, Well, I'll still
stick with my comment, and Eric Echo did too. A
lot of times you will see a ballplayer that, yeah,
is so good offensively that his defense maybe takes a
back seat. So obviously that wasn't the case for Aeronato.

(01:21:39):
And congratulations on all those great gold gloves he won
and the three hundred and fifty plus home runs. Of course,
our friend, our colleague, your mentor, Tony DeMarco had the
privilege of covering him in Colorado, and he was a
really good friends by the way, with Adrian Beltrie of
the Rangers, and then uh holiday, Matt, Matt Holiday with

(01:22:02):
the Rockies. We're two of his best friends, and you
know what, hats off to him. That's all I can say.
But yeah, I mean, you know it's corrected. Our you know,
we appreciate that. Thanks for correcting those candy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
And yeah, hey listen, listen, I'll own it. If I
make a mistake and I think something is I have
no problem correctly. I don't have to have a big
ego if I made a mistake, but I'd really get
it right when I could do it instead of after
the fact. So that's all there is exactly. I'm still
not going to go back on the fact. I do
have a nother good stack coming up after Cancing said it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I mean, knowing aeron Otto at one point was the
best all round player in the league. I mean he'd
be hit for power. The guy could. They could feel
both ways. You can, he can go to his left
just as just as good as he could go to
his right. I mean, no matter where it was hit,
you odds are knowing Aaron or not, I was going
to get to it and there was going to be
a play at first or second base. I mean, the
guy was that strong as well. But you know, it's

(01:22:59):
it's impressed what he's been able to do throughout his career.
It's too bad that he never really got he got
to play deep into October. But still in my eyes,
he's a Hall farent because man, the guy could. The
guy's the definition of doing it all out on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Okay, Well, as advertised, I do have another stat So
there you go, and I guarantee it this one definitely
right now. Maybe I'm too hard on myself this time.
I don't care. It is what it is. But fighting
Hall of Fame numbers. The Cubs never reached the playoffs
in earning Banks nineteen seasons. Is twenty five and twenty

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games are the most by a player without apparent in
the postseason. Oh Nellie Skiff. It's a lot of time
be aisle from the postseason. Mister Cubb, Bernie Banks did
not have a chance. Of course, back then it was
harder to make the postseason anyways, knowing one seam at
the top of the division. But what are your thoughts
about mister Cobb Ernie Banks.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
Yeah, you know, it's it's always so on unfortunate to
me when you have these amazing players on these teams
and for whatever reason, they can't get over the hump
to get into the playoffs. So everybody can see these
you know, Mike Trout comes to.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Mind in Anaheim, right.

Speaker 7 (01:24:15):
It's just that's just so unfortunate for those guys. They
get locked in, they stay loyal to the team that
drafted them, and you know, they just don't get into
the playoffs and as much as you'd like them to,
and for Ernie to never get there, that's in nineteen seasons,
that's that's pretty amazing. I'm so glad that he's mister Cubb,

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you know, because it sounds like he did everything he
could to help the team get into into the playoffs
and it was just the support system around him that
kind of failed. So for them to still recognize him
as mister Cubb even though he wasn't winning World Series championships.
Really shows the level of baseball fan that is in

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Cubs Land over there, great fans, they appreciate great baseball
and it's not just about you know, we gotta win, win, win.
If you're doing the right thing, they're gonna appreciate you.
And they definitely appreciated Ernie Banks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Katie.

Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
I've said this before that so many times players are
judged on how many rings, how many championships do they have?
And I've said for a long time, we look at
Hall of Fame, we look at football players. How we

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talk about quarterbacks, How many rings do they have? How
many Super Bowl championships? Again, you are playing a team
sport baseball, football, what it might be. You don't have
to be. Your team has to be great to win
World Series rings and Super Bowl rings. You as a

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player can excel and maybe don't have the supporting cast
to get you there, to get you to win rings.
So I'm happy to see that somebody excelled at his
craft for as long as he did and got into
the Hall of Fame without having rings, Because what a

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travesty Someone that had the career he did, if he
wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame, you know again,
I mean was. He was a fourteen time All Star player,
fourteen times out of his nineteen years. That's crazy. I'm

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just glad to see that he was in. I believe
he got in the first year. He is regarded as
one of the greatest players of all time. I believe
he got in. He was voted in the National Baseball
Hall of Fame in nineteen seventy seven, his first year
of eligibility. He read received votes on three hundred and

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twenty one of the three hundred and eighty three ballots.
He was the only player elected by the Baseball Writers
Association of America, he said, through several players were selected
through the Veterans Committee and the Special Committee on the
Negro Leagues. That year, Banks was the only player elected
by the Baseball Writers. So kudos to them.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
They got it right, Okay, George, Yeah, al Any Banks,
mister cubb oh man. What a career and it got
topped off by President Obama. He gave him the Presidential
Medal of Freedom for his contributions to sports and back
in twenty thirteen, and then he died two years later.

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He was eighty three when he passed away. But yeah,
there's no other player I think in Cubs history who
had such a remarkable career. He really really wore the
Cubs banner high if you will. I know it didn't
get him into a World Series, but boil boy, he
was a favorite of all the fans. Had a great career,

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and don't forget he was. You know, that's a tough
time too, because you know, you hit Willie Mays and
you had a lot of one mirror show. Yeah, a
lot of great Blue brock heard flood, a lot of
great African American players, but by far, he was the
best there was in Chicago, and you could make the
case for the whole league at one time. So I mean,

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very very fiery, but a very very great, gracious man
too from all I've read and heard about him. Bernie Banks, Yeah,
he was terrific. It is too bad though, like you said,
that players don't taste the postseason. Unfortunately, It's happened throughout
all of sports and you hate to see it, but
sometimes you can't do nothing about it, Okay, Cassie.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Well, first off, there were it was you know, it
was again they this was back when he played, the
divisions were basically all in one American league in national
Yeah yeah, where where the old joke was looking the
paper on Memorial Day. If your team is in first place,
they've got a chance. But they but you know, I
mean they in Chicago though there are so few great

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sports moments. I mean there's a lot more there's a
lot more disasterly moments than there are great moments. And
they say, you know, if you win a championship in Chicago,
you'll never have to pay for a drink for the
rest of your life. But you know, a get I
mean again, when chicagoan's you know, they appreciate, they appreciate
great baseball. I mean, they're appreciative of when guys, when

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guys are going all out. I mean they're not like
they're not vicious like New York or Philadelphia where if
you're dogging it, they're gonna let you know until until
next week. But they're but they're a but again, Ernie Banks,
there's a reason he's called mister Cubb. I mean it's
there's a there's a lot of people in there who
you know, who never got to play in the post,

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who never who never went to the postseason. It took
Don Mattingly a long time, and thank odd for the
wildcard or otherwise he might have not gone to the
postseason either. But you know, but good, but good for
mister Cubb. I mean again, one of the one of
the greats Chicago Cubs players of all time. Hall of Famer,
very deserving of it, although with one player getting elected
at the time, I guess, I guess the writer. I

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get the baseball writers community with dumb then as they
are now, but they but again, you know, mister Cubb,
I mean, people still talk to talk about him to
this day and he's still very much loved in the
front of the compound, the Wrigley Field.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna go back to what Eric said too
about this whole thing. Bear in mind, you only had
probably what twelve teams, fourteen teams, and he didn't have
a lot of teams. Whoever won the division got to
the postseason. So well, it's a stat that it's a
shame that he never got to the postseason. It's certainly
a much easier pass to get to the postseason because
they're more slots available. So is there one thing else

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you wanted to ask, and Canny, I have other things
I need to get to with. Go ahead real quick,
I know I want.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
To I want to quick put out this. In twenty
twenty two, as part of the sport News Rushmore project
on Chicago's Mount Rushmore of sports, they put Ernie Banks
for baseball, Michael Jordan for basketball, Walter Payton for Bears football,

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and Bobby Hall for the Chicago Blackhawks, all four great athletes.
How awesome is that?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
It's a good Mount Rushmore. And I'm sure will I'm
sure Candy will remember those later on when she has
to put it all together later on. Wants you Candy?
All right? Well, let's stay in the Chicago team. One
guy I know all too well because they were Sammy
Sosis the worthy of being in the Hall of Fame.
He knew I was gonna throw one of these bad boys. Yeah,
he goes in. He has a two seventy three. Get this,

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let's talk about his averages two seventy three. It's twenty
four hundred and eight home run, six oh nine RBI
sixteen sixty seven, fourteen hundred and seventy five runs. And
then we also look at he's a seven time All
Star six. I'm Silver Slugger as well. Maybe I might
show a little biasedness for this one. Him and I

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actually skipped work together in nineteen eighty seven. I was
director of public relations with this guy at the Gastonia Rangers.
Sammy and I were buddies. Man, We were buddies. But
putting on my objective hat is another story. But I
want to bring this story up to everybody. When the
Cobs took on the Marlins, then when there was a
Florida Marlins at Joe Robbie Stadium, I had a Cubs

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lady would let me talk to him. So I decided
being on the field before the game and I said, hey, Sammy,
remember me? And then he give me says old big
Sammy smile. I'm telling like you would believe I told
his woman said, you know what I told you. I
did the same thing before you did this guy. Now

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be believe me. Give me that one on one interview.
Sammy authorized. I got one on one interview in the
locker room. So am I a little bit subject this.
I'll say he does even though a lot of people
might disagree with me. But also the fact that I
want to say yes on this one. If it were
for him in Maguire faseball would be in trouble after

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the nineteen ninety four strike as well. But that said,
I'm turning over to my manager.

Speaker 7 (01:33:18):
Yeah, I think the numbers are there for the Hall
of Fame. Obviously, in that ten year stretch or whatever.
You know, that's what you really want to look for.
Did you dominate in those in a good you know,
seven eight ten year stretch, and he was. He was
one of the best hitters in baseball during that time,
especially when you're talking about power. So I do feel

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like the numbers are there. I think he definitely has
a Hall of Fame smile. You're right, he had a
great smile when he was on the baseball field. There's
no doubt about that. I remember, I remember that vividly.
He did hit a homer off of me in spring training,
So I am I'm a little biased as well, So
I think he deserves to be in the Hall of

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Fame just for that. You know, it's hard to hit
eighty eight with very little movement out of the park
when when you're a perennial power hitter in the big leagues.
So I think that, you know, obviously the elephant in
the room, right, we all know what it is. That's
kind of the cloud hanging over a lot of these guys,
and we'll just see what happens.

Speaker 9 (01:34:20):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
I don't know their own stories. That's for them to
tell or not tell. But the numbers are there, and
I really enjoyed watching him dominate for for a long
period of time in the big leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Glad I am an ally on this topic. I don't
know if I him anybody, but at least I got
my manager on my side. What about you, Candy.

Speaker 6 (01:34:42):
On December nineteenth, twenty twenty four, Sosa released a somewhat
ambiguous public statement through his PR firm, stating there were
times I did whatever I could to recover from injuries
in an effort to keep my strength up to perform
over one hundred and six games. I never broke any laws,

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but in hindsight, I made mistakes, and I apologize to
me that. To me, that tells me you used an
unfair advantage because you're coming out and saying you made mistakes.
Do I believe he should be in the Hall of Fame.
I believe there should be a wing for that, for
people that are that have that have a controversy like that,

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you know, because do I believe that he used an
unfair advantage?

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 6 (01:35:32):
I mean, and I would say that of a number
of other players too from that era. Did he rebound baseball? Yes,
That's why I say I would put him in a
separate wing and put him in or a separate exhibit
and have that as part of the hall. But does
he believe do I honestly believe he belongs with all
the rest of him in the same spot. No, I

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think you took you did an unfair advantage. You use
something that you knew you shouldn't have used. Whether you
knowingly did it or not, your people are supposed to
know that. And I just think he had an unfair advantage,
and that's why he had the power and had the advantage.
My personal opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
So I'm asking George Well.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
Seven time All Star, National League MVP, one time six
times Silver Slugger Award, Hank Aaron Award winner, Roverticalmeny Award.
I mean, the list goes on and on and on. Certainly,
Sammy Sosa had an unbelievable career, But like Candy said,
if he was using artificial things to enhance his hitting

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and his slugging. Then I can't put him in the
Hall of Fame, right, I can't do it because it's
either going to be all or none, all or none.
So if we're going to allow his candidacy to go forward,
then in my mind, you gotta you can't put the
brakes on Roger Clements or Schelling or or Maguire or
anybody else's chairs the spons you know, so it has

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to be in my mind at least, it would have
to be all or none. I don't think we're ever
going to see the day when it's all. I don't
think we're there yet. Now you understand the thing about Rose,
that's a totally different subject matter because he was betting
on games. Sammy, of course, was enhancing his battings Doylen
and his performance performance statistics proved that his performance was really,

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really elevated, as we know, along with Maguire. But right
now my guest would be no, I'm not totally closing
the door. Like Handy said, that's a bit interesting. I
might consider something like that in the Hall of Fame
to honor those guys, but certainly not not to get
him on the ballot or to be approved by the

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special committees.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I'm not there yet, Eric Well, Well's Scott's heard me
about how I felt about Bud Sealely and how he
how he's handled it. Essentially, Bud Seely could have stopped
it and stopped it and didn't. And said the old
man into about two thousand and three, probably two thousand
and three, two thousand and four ish found religion after
the money went dry and decided to hire his best

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friend George Mitchell to do to do a sham of
an investigation. And with that being said, let me ask
everybody this about the summer of ninety eight. Did you
all have fun? Did you enjoy watching baseball? Go go up,
go up to the third deck and just fly, just
fly out of there and watch Sammy Sosa do the
hop right out of the box, or Mark or Mark

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McGuire with his majestic swing making making the baseball look
like a golf ball. Did you all have fun? I'm asking,
I'm seriously asking the question, did you all have fun?
Is that a yes or a no answer?

Speaker 5 (01:38:42):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
For me, absolutely, they brought excitement.

Speaker 6 (01:38:47):
I'm not arguing that at all.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Well, when you look at when you look at the
Hall of Fame voters. Now now that now that those
old longtime writers are starting to get removed and put
put into their little nursing homes, you know, they they
You're starting to see the votes for those guys kind
of trickle up a little bit if you compare the

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votes from where they were when when the old when
the old guy who probably can't even see the front
of the paper was doing the votes. To now with
the newer school of writers, you're starting to see these
guys collecting votes and starting to stay on the bout
a little longer. Without McGuire and Sosa, I guarantee you
baseball would not be what it what it ended would

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not be the same. Matter of fact, you got people
now who are still pissed off about the strike of
ninety four where it cost them a season and the
World Series. Hell, I know Montreal has every right to
hold a grudge there and to an extent Don Mattingly,
but you know, but to be truthful, look at the numbers.
You still got to put that on ball. A ball
has to still leave yard and that still requires muscle.

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I'm sure those guys, those guys still struck out a
crap toun a crap ton too. And I don't recall
a pitcher who was on the mound complaining about it,
because they ultimately have to go out there too, and
they're ultimately paid as well to get the job done.
So Sammy deserves to be there. I mean, he's still
very much loved in Chicago. Tom Ricketts inserted him in

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an inserting himself into a situation that was going on
when he was just another fan in the stands at
that point, and decided to make himself look like the
new sheriff in town prior to the Cubs winning the
World Series, just because he wanted a little publicity. And
everybody knows that Sammy loved the press, the press should
love him back too. A heck, if there was a
ham Sandwich talking to Sammy, I guarantee he'd be talking

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back to the ham Sandwich. But again, you gotta put
him in. I mean, look at what he did and
he practiced. Him and maguire practically saved baseball and there's
no reason to But here's the thing, the guy could
have prevented it. Bud Sea League is in the Hall
of Fame, and they're not if they're If they're not

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in the Hall of Fame, then maybe mister Sea League's
plaque should be should be should he chucked into one
of the rivers near Cooperstown.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
I'll say this much when we still have one or
two things I could get to tonight. Cheers you skip
and cheers you are Andy. George's your point, But so
said chusity.

Speaker 7 (01:41:13):
Guys, I got something on that Scott. You know back
obviously I was pitching pitching during that time, and it
was pretty universally known. I agree with Katzy. If if
you were the commissioner at that time and and you
act like you didn't know, then you weren't doing your
job because it was pretty universally known that a lot

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of guys were doing this type of thing. And the
next thing I'll say is, you know it is performance
enhancing stuff. How do how does everybody? And we might
not want to go down this road, it might not
be a fair comparison. How how what do we think
about anybody that played for Houston when when they were
you know, stealing signs electronically and cheating that way, that's

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just as much of a performance enhancing thing than than
steroids were, maybe even more. And uh, you know a
j Hinch, you're you're manager in Detroit? Is he is
he now not a Hall of Fame candidate because of
that season when he won a World Series because he
had an unfair advantage. These are tough questions. So it's, uh,

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you know, like Katzie said, maybe maybe someday the voters
will change, but I don't know that that's It's just
it's a question I'd like to pose because, uh, you know,
cheating is cheating, whether you're sticking whatever in your in
your body to make your proven or using a computer
and banging on trash cans.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
G boy, So Skip, I think the main thing that
you and I and Katsie do agree on is he
does belong. Get that. But now that you've brought that up, Skiff,
I'm gonna tell you one thing we're probably gonna do
next week. We're gonna go back to our friend mister
learning Hard. We're gonna tell about baseball and physics, and
then we'll get a more of a rocket scientist right
down out. You brought it up. So if that said,

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so what we're gonna do right now? Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
I was gonna say, even when the guys were even
with the guys with the Royds. They didn't they didn't
know ball was where the ball was gonna go. There's
a there's a there's a great there's a great difference.
Houston practically knew what pitch was coming, so so they
had so they had a much better advantage to get
the end of the day. Though Mark McGuire and Sammy
Susan didn't hit a home run every time at that

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they still struck out a crap ton too during that time,
So you know, there's there's a difference there. As far
as aj Hinch goes, I mean, I didn't think he
was a Hall of Famer even for winning the World
Series anyway, because the guy had a way of losing
his clubhouses. It happened to him in Arizona and it
happened to him in Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Okay, all right, one topic. I definitely want to get
to the night and this won't take a whole lot
of time. As Candy pull out to Clayton McColo, sound boy,
I'm jim Leland. Because Jim Leyland, the former Tigers manager,
was inducted into the Maryland Tall of Fame. Jack McKeon
was this weekend and Clayton McCullough talked about how much
he was able to pick Jim Leland's brain over the weekend.

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I still think there's something worth getting out there.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
Go ahead, Candy, approach it in the same manner.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Clayton. Two weeks ago, the Marlins honor Jim Leland. What
were you able to take away from that weekend? Getting
to know Jim a little bit very experienced manager? Were
you able to learn a lot from Jim in addition
to what he's been able to bring to the table
over the years.

Speaker 10 (01:44:36):
I think that it was an honor to have a
chance to sit down and spend fifteen to twenty minutes
with Jim. He was kind enough to do that, and
you know, certainly what he's done in his career is
Hall of Fame worthy, and it was just it was
my takeaway from him is what a genuine man. There's
a real love for baseball. There was a real love
for the players that he coached and managed. He was

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very humble. So that was my little takeaway was Jim
was a terrific manager, but a great baseball person.

Speaker 7 (01:45:06):
But just how kind and open he was to.

Speaker 10 (01:45:09):
Spending some time and sharing and again, the the humble
nature which he just approaching the ease at which he put.

Speaker 7 (01:45:18):
You know, everyone they got a chance to spend time
with him. So there you have it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Jim Leland well thought of in Miami. Where your thoughts
skip about Jim Leland and Miami. The first guy to
win a World Series. We know Jack mckei was on
or yesterday, but everybody knows I've had good I've dealt
with Jim Leland several times. One of the classiest people
I've ever met. Have you had any dealings with Jim Leland?

Speaker 7 (01:45:45):
I have, You know, it makes me smile just thinking
about getting to talk to Jim on occasion behind the
bat in cages, or you know, maybe I'd see him
down the line in spring training in the back back
paulm and his cigarette and kind of high. But the
one thing that stands out to me with Jim is
when I was kind of growing up watching him or

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in the minor leagues watching him manage. You know, he
came across as this rough, gritty, you know, smoking manager
over in the corner. You know, maybe raspy voice, yelling
at players. But when you get to know Jim, like
Clay said, he is one of the most genuine kind,
most thoughtful. You know, everything he says is very thoughtful.

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You know, he offered me his number to call him
and if I ever needed any help when I became
a manager in the Major League. So I have the
utmost respect for Jim Leland and in my interactions with him,
and we're just what a great baseball guy. You know,
he's kind of a caricature of the ultimate manager and
my view, so I really love the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
That's all to make sure we got to sound like
in a night ship because a certain pertinent and Jack
he didn't have to get there yesterday. But Jim Leland's
a guy I've had a much longer working relationship.

Speaker 7 (01:47:04):
George.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
Yeah, that was very interesting and a good question, Scott.
You asked Miami skipper. No matter how young he is,
I'm sure he picked up some things even though he
had a brief opportunity to talk to Jim Laylan. But yeah,
all of Detroit obviously was very excited too when it
was announced that Jim was going to go into the
Baseball Hall of Fame. And certainly he didn't win a

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championship here, but he took them to two World Series. Unfortunately,
they only won one game and lost nine. But the
fact of the matter is is that I'm sorry eight.
The fact of the matter is that Jim Leland had
the respect. He had the respect of his players, he
had the respect of his managers, colleagues. He had to

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respect to the front office, Dave Dombrowski, especially here in Detroit.
And you know, he just he wore baseball, as they
say on his sleeve.

Speaker 7 (01:47:59):
He was all in.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
He was all in. Say what you want about us
smoking and taking the drag here or there. I know
that was kind of a fun thing, but the Marlboro
Man and all those jokes. But Jim Leland was baseball.
And I was so happy when it was announced that
he was making the Hall of Fame, just as I
was for s Parky Anderson as well. But Jimmy was
and still is leaned upon by a lot of people,

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a lot of people for for his insight and his
knowledge of the game. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
I mean, my only my question for Clayton McCollough was
that he have an opportunity to crush a heater with
Jim Leland.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
I don't think you have to worry about that. Clayton's
a pretty clean cut manager and I'll tell you I
enjoyed working with Clayton mccolla if you ever get a chance.
I mean, Clayton mccolla, unbelievable ahead cancer, Sorry interrupt.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
I was gonna say, well, clean cut, that's no fun.
But he's uh, but he you know, Jim Leyland. I mean,
he's the only guy that that's known to have stood
up publicly to Barry Bonds. If that, if that tells
you everything. And he's the type of guy who if
you walk through his clubhouse, you knew who the captain
of the ship was upon upon entering that clubhouse, because

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he was he was that powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Of a figure.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
And you know jim Leland, he you know, with the
exception of that flip on the radar in Colorado, where
I think it was just a bad fit for him personally,
you know, he won everywhere he went. He turned the
Pirates around and made them a winner, got the Barlins
a world a World Series championship in in in nineteen
ninety seven, and which fund of fact, you know, Candy

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knows this, but Craig Council had the most important sacrifice
fly in in the his in the history of that game.
And you know he also took turned around the Tigers
from nearly setting the lost record in two thousand and
two to boom. They're in the World Series twice. So
you know, nobody, you know, you know, Jim blealand I
mean Hall of Famers should have happened sooner, no one,

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nobody's nobody has a love a love of strong for
the game than Jim. And I mean I'm happy he's
got in And I'm glad he's still sticking around too,
and staying active around the game as well.

Speaker 6 (01:50:08):
Indeed, Okay Leland, he is one of eleven managers to
lead three different teams to the postseason. With the Tigers
victory in the twenty six American League Championship Series, Leland
became the seventh manager in history to win pennants in
both the National and the American League. He's a three

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time Manager of the Year, twice in the National League
and once in the American League. He managed the United
States national team at the twenty seventeen World Baseball Classic,
leading the team to its first gold medal finish. He
deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. What a
career to win Manager of the Year in both leagues.

(01:50:56):
That takes a lot. If you think about it, it's
not just one league. And back then the leagues were
different because you had different strategies. You had DH and
one and you didn't in the other like you whereas now,
what's the same. You had different strategies for the different league.
So kudos to Jim.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Yeah, well number one, he is in Baseball's Hall of Fame.
He now is in the Maryland Hall of Fame. The
only thing I'd like to see between mcken and Leland
there is both their numbers getting retired. That's what I say,
because Marlin don't have any number retired numbers. Real quick,
tell you, I'll tell what we're going to stand in
the managerial thing. But I'm going to reduce this information
down to one question only about what these numbers are

(01:51:36):
about to tell you the most manager the most managerial
wins in MLB history, And Bruce Bosey just passed a
significant angelo. I'm going to ask everybody after I read
the numbers, what's his legacy in MLB? First of all,
the all time leader happens to be Connie Connie Mack
at thirty seven hundred and thirty one. Tony Russa twenty

(01:51:58):
eight eighty four, John McGraw twenty seven sixty three, Bobby
Cox twenty five oh four, Joe Tory twenty three, twenty six,
Bruce Bochi twenty one ninety five, And he did go
ahead and past Marky Anderson. That's what you have. I
know we're running out of time in the show as
we get closer to the end, but I figured this

(01:52:20):
is the perfect opportunity since we've stayed with the Leland conversation,
to continue the narrative skip. How does history treat Bruce Bochi.

Speaker 7 (01:52:31):
As one of the greatest all times? I mean, you
just read the numbers. When you're a manager, winning is everything, right,
That's what you focus on. Your job is to get
whatever group that you have to win games. And he's
one of the best to ever do it. So he's
going to go down in history as one of the
top ten managers in baseball of all time. And he

(01:52:53):
deserves all of that because what a great, unbelievable manager.
He is. Respect from every buddy in the game, kind
of like we were talking about with Leland, respect of
the players, respect of other coaches, respect of the media.
It seems he deals with everybody with grace and and
he's he's an amazing person, amazing coach.

Speaker 6 (01:53:16):
So Candy, to be on that list, you have to
be good because that's a list of really good managers
with all those wins, You don't We've talked numerous times
in a win now league with all the different teams
they're in a win now So to have that kind
of longevity means you're doing something right.

Speaker 5 (01:53:39):
George, Yeah, he's been quite a quite a great skipper,
no question about it. You know, he started out with
San Diego as a manager, and then San Francisco and
now with the Texas Rangers, and every stop along the
way is a bit difficult for him, I'm sure, but
it's a challenge and he's met all the challenges. I

(01:54:00):
I know that he had a great, great opportunity in
San Francisco and really brought them into a level I
hadn't seen there since well whatever, maybe ever in their history.
But he's been a great guy, you know. And he's
done some television work as well, and I really admired him,
you know. And he's another one of these guys that

(01:54:22):
was just an average ballplayer. I mean, his major league
average was only two thirty nine during the years in
the major leagues and he only hit twenty six home runs,
but that doesn't matter because he knew the game. He
loves the game, and from a manager standpoint, it's a
point of view. He knows what it takes to create
a clubhouse that's going to be good and solid and

(01:54:46):
is going to get along with each other. So that's
what I like about Boucha. And he's going to definitely
be in the Hall of Fame, no question about, as
soon as he's eligible.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
Yeah. The only thing I'm gonna say about Boat as
we get ready to rap this bad boy up, is
Bochie will be long remembered in the Nallas areas together
that broke. You got the Texas Rangers for the first title, Eric,
really quickly, and then let everybody we have one more
station break. Go ahead, Eric, you have a final word
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
I was gonna say, Boach. I mean he won everywhere
he went. He took all his teams to the World Series,
first San Diego and then San Francisco. He winds up
winning it three times there, and then he took the
and he took the Rangers to the World Series and
won there too. I mean, you can't ask for a
better career of that. Although Connie Mack though, has has
kind of an unfair advantage because you couldn't really fire
him back then because he I think he actually owned

(01:55:34):
the team too, so he could lose it. So he
can lose as much as he wants, and then he's
coming back to work. He's coming back to work the
next morning with a job with all the job security
in the world. So there's a little bit of an
unfair advantage there. But the fact that Boachi's one of
the last ones to still be going strong and still
I established that longevity, it shows that he won early

(01:55:54):
and he won often. I mean, that's what DoD Schulis said.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Okay, so next week such at Baseball Talk, we're gonna
talk about some new additions to the WBC for managers
in twenty twenty six, we're gonna talk a little bit
about Justin Verlander as well. Will he be one of
the last three hundred winners. We're going we'll get into that.
I think we covered a tremendous amount of ground to night,
for sure. I'm glad we were able to do it. Candy,

(01:56:18):
anything else you want to add to it, or before
we turn over to the station break. What we're gonna
do right now, We'll go around the horn as we
get ready to wrap this bad boy, I'm go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:56:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Those are going to talk about Byatti or Molina Dusty Baker,
as well as Andrew Jones's be a Field and mentioned
next week. All right, Eric, everybody knows that I get
a hold of you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
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Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
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Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
All right, Well, we'll wait for our manager to get
back because obviously we're looking forward to bringing them on
next week. So with that said, any Katie why don't
we go ahead and any closing thoughts real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:58:26):
I'm just gonna say congratulations to the Brewers. They took
it to the Nationals this past weekend. If you didn't know,
they scored what they had fifty six hits or was
it fifty six runs in that I can't remember what
it was crazy, they took it to the Nationals. So
kudos to them for a small market team. I hope

(01:58:48):
they keep doing it. And kudos to the Miami Marlins.
They're they're making it fun and it's exciting to be
at the games.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Well, we want to appreciate our manager and Mika Kelway
for being on tonight. He'll have important announcements coming up
on the next show and mean while on behalf of Candiabily,
jd Wyatt, Eric Katz, George join Corn and myself, Scott
and Motors stately men. Well, well, thank you for being
on this edition hundreds. This is beatfaul Dock. We will
see you next Tuesday. Have a great night everybody. Bye
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