MLB's Shiny New Toy -Jacob Misiorowski

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Money everybody. His name is Scott Morgan, Rock and Wavers City,
mad Mouth. We have a really good, shiny broadcast tonight
and we'll be talking about the All Star Game and
then some so have a couple of weddings to talk
about tonight as well. But that said, as we get
Mickey Callaway, the former New York Mex Manager on and
beyond in just a moment, let's go over the crew

(00:47):
and the topics. A lot of what we have is
going to be centered around the All Star Game anyways
as well. So glad to have everybody back on. Rik
Kansas not in the night, he's in Boston on some business.
But other than that, we have a grew pretty much
intact all right, George Iichorn, Katy Eveling, glad to have
you both back on, ye thank you, And we have

(01:07):
Steven Rochaw. Steven will be on with me tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
We're always going to have fun on the network.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Brother, Oh we do, don't we? Okay? And we also
that's Cyberuski active in the chat room. Why are you going, Ciberski?
Thanks for checking in with the band, Okay, Trent Clark
didn't get to this weekend. You had a weddings of
to day to go to by the way, I do well. So,
so who are your congratulations with your wedding, and then
I'll go ahead and give you ours. So who got
married on your end?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, big congratulates to my twenty four year old son
Brigg who tied the nod to his lovely wife Alexandra,
and I got a new daughter in law out of
the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Man, It's it's pretty good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I also want to have a shout out to congratulations
to Britney Ward Morgan Roth and Brock Morgan Ros. I'm
telling you great stuff. I felt like when we were
at this wedding, it were reminded me of being the
Phoenix International Race where you're wearing a black shirt because
we were bacon out there. I over at Phoenix sold
one hundred and ten degrees dry heat out there. I

(02:09):
had some issues with sun and heat exhausted there and
have that problem even though it was a it was
a black attire event. But nevertheless, congratulations to Britney and
Brock on their marriage.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Ok.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
They have a lot of years together. One of the
gifts I gave him was my book and they gave
him something else as well. But that's said, we want
to welcome in. There was regular or two older day
Pishess baseball doctor Matyate Galloway. He was on the Motor
City mad monsll left. Why we had flats, Then we met,
then we met. There we go.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Now I can hear you guys. You guys were just
spinning for a second.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
That's all right. Last one thing your opening actles I
said a lot of fun, didn't we talking about? So
all right, let's get to the topics. Obviously have a
lot to get to. MLB goose shiny toy.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Jacob Missleroski, Milwaukee hurler. Jacob Missleroski twenty three years of
age at four to one with a two point eight
one run evers and your attention when he threw one
hundred point five miles an hour in his first major
league pitch. This guy could go one hundred and three
and a half miles an hour. And I'll tell you
what you about this guy. This is the guy that

(03:22):
the fans want to see. And George and I and
everybody in baseball to remember that, because once I'll find
there was a guy by the name of Mark Figrits
who they all wanted to see as they ended up
getting them. So McKay real lead off with you on
this topic. What are your thoughts about Jacob miss Roski.
Keep in mind, twelve pitchers declined to go to the
All Star Game, so he was an ad on, but

(03:43):
probably a pretty good one. What do you think get Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Absolutely, you know, the All Star Game, in my opinion,
is for the fans, right and uh, I'm sure the
Milwaukee fans definitely want to see that young kid out
there throwing a one hundred and three in the All
Star Game. So I'm all four things like that, and
I love that, you know, he's getting this opportunity. There's
there's nothing better, you know for a pitcher to get
to go out there and pitching the All Star Game.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Against the best in the world. And and I support this.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, twelve pitchers are client, I mean, will be it
his opportunity. Dave Roberts and Pat Murphy were all for
as they should be. I mean, think about this another night.
It's not like they need him more than a better
to They'll throw a hundred miles an hour. And what
opportunity is You're going to get to be in an
All Star Game? And when he's getting that opportunity like
he's ad So yeah, date Robert Pat Murphy, their fans.

(04:34):
But what do you think, Trent?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, First of all, it's always fun when a young
kid comes up and makes the great and you know,
Mickey ol tests this is a picture. You know, a
lot of pitchers come in absolutely dominate their first six
to fifteen outings. People haven't seen him yet, they haven't adjusted.
This kid's got a magic arm, which gets super exciting
to watch. But you know, the the glass Slipper does

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come off like guys will start home. It in on
what he wants to do out there, and he's gonna
find out. These hitters at this level are pretty good,
right Nick?

Speaker 8 (05:05):
And so the Mark I love his Uh, you know,
we kind of saw Mark fizzle out pretty quick after
that seventy sixth season, So it's a it's a tough
world out there.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
He's a very young man. I'm sure he's gonna go
very far. Exciting to watch right now. What a what
a cool opportunity to slide into the All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
He's gonna have an All Star Games no matter what
ever happens the rest of his career. All right, Star.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's gobbage that's what this is.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Absolute guard five games, he's pitched five games.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
He's an All Star Game.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
Could someone remind me how many years you have to
play in Major League Baseball even be considered for the
Hall of Fame again, Oh, that's right, you got at
least play ten seasons. Right, there's a way to go
about things. Do I think it's an amazing opportunity for him.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Absolutely? Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
We should be able to give some of some of
the the up and coming rookies who perform well in
the first half of their rookie year a chance to
play in the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
It shouldn't be veterans exclusive or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
But you have guys that that are that are quote
unquote being snubbed for it. I mean, how the Phillies
just paid Christopher Sanchez his All Star bonus because they
felt they felt like that he should.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Have been in one of those slots.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
But it's one of these things, man, like you know,
where you know, we can plain about about about you know,
all Star games.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Not really meaning anything, and you know, and then we have.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
These situations where they do something like this, and it
just kind of compounds the fact that people don't tune
out even the players are tuning out of it. We'll
probably get into that a little bit later too, but
you still gotta get be be happy for the kid.
I mean, at the end of the day, it's not

(07:00):
every day that you're gonna have to have a chance
of this. It's not every season that that you're gonna
be able to potentially, you know, play and start, et cetera,
an All Star Game, because not every year is gonna
go your way, you know, you know, even even even
more so to have the stats to be able to
sit there and say you're you're an All Star. So
as upset of that as I am at it, at

(07:23):
the same time, I can understand why you would do
something like this. But you know, there there has to
be at least a handful of guys that are you know,
having seasons like you know, I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Obviously, you know, I think here in Philadelphia we.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Have a couple of guys that that that that could
have made it, but wouldn't want to see sit there
and you know, do two or three uh Philadelphia Phillies
starters and they're just because they're doing it. We've had
teams that had better rotations. I remember, you know, good
part of uh, you know, the the nineties when the
Braves had you know, you know, Smoltz, Glavin and them guys,
they would You could easily sit there and say, let's

(07:55):
let all let all three of these guys in and
each year and do it because they were they were
pitching that well. But I like to see guys get opportunities,
especially young guys. So as much as I think in
his garbage, I do want to sit there and you know,
give the kid his flowers. But five games, that's probably
my biggest problem with this.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
He's pitched five games.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Fair enough, and now for a lady, go ahead, let.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Me jump in with that and like, get Mickey.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I want to get Mackey's opinion of this, because you know,
you think about Mickey Got two thousand and two series.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
We bring up.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
K Rod about September first call up. He's got an
electric slider. He's given everybody all sorts of issues. You know,
he's the he's the big thing that everybody's win waiting
on since he was sixteen years old. But you know,
you've been in that league, by the way, seven eight
years by then, and all of a sudden, that kid's
not going to an all Star Game. So in fairness

(08:51):
to what my man just said, like, this is this
is a pretty big you know, this is a pretty
big leap from five games to the All Star Game.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
What's your thought on that, man, Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
That's the first thing that popped in my head when
he started talking.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
Was k Rod.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
In two thousand and two, we brought him up at
the end of the season. He threw five innings, punched
out thirteen guys, and we put him on the playoff
roster and we don't win a World Series without him.
So you know, if we're going to trust a kid
in the World Series, the biggest games of the year,
I'll trust him in an All Star Game, you know.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
And that's another thing, is the All Star.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Game means something now, right, So it is when when
those coaches are going to pick some people. Hey, we
got to win this game, so we have home field advantage,
so let's go get the best guy that's available, even
if he's throwing five innings. That's what we did with
k Rod, And it seems like that's what Dave and
those guys did with this kid.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I think that's fair night.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
All right, Well, you know what Ulstar gave the Katy
actually went to an All Star Game just so happened
with to the one that Milwaukee.

Speaker 9 (09:58):
Right, he.

Speaker 10 (10:00):
I want to tell everybody my story.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Go for it. No, no, I'm not telling your story.
But so.

Speaker 10 (10:11):
I'm going to What I'm going to say is the
All Star Game is all about the fans. Let's face it,
that's what and it's it's an honor to be voted
in because you're voted in by the fans.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
First, most of them.

Speaker 10 (10:26):
Now the fact, yes, Stephen, I get your point. He's
only pitched in five games, but twelve others declined, so
it wasn't like he was the first one asked up.
You know, a lot of them are declining. They don't
they want the rest. They don't want to, you know,
keep pitching. They don't want to be in the spotlight

(10:49):
like that. They want to rest their arms so that
they can finish the season off. Really well, I think
it's cool because, let's face it, Milwaukee is probably the
smallest market in MLB and we don't normally get a
lot of love, we don't normally get a lot of
players in there. So to put him in there as

(11:13):
well as some of the others they put in their
kudos to them, and kudos to him because they're talking
they're going to put him in about the seventh inning,
is what I've heard. Let him pitch an inning, pitch
against these All Stars. I'm excited for him, Ali.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Corn Well, I'm gonna agree with Steve. When Mark Fritteridge
made it in nineteen seventy six, he pitched almost the
entire first half of the year and he proved, he
proved why he was an All Star. Five games to
me is no proof at all. I'm sorry. There are
plenty of other even relief pitchers that have been waiting

(11:52):
and waiting and waiting in their careers that have never
gotten the call. I know that he's exciting, and I
know what you're saying, but I think there should be
a minimum requirement. He's got to be in ten games
or whatever it is set forth by the Hall of Fame,
by the All Star Voting Committee or panel, and the fans.

(12:14):
Of course, you say the fans are clamoring for this candy. Yeah,
maybe your fans in Milwaukee are, but you can't say
the whole country's clamoring for a guy who's pitched five
or six games. Come on, now, like I said he
pitched three or four months, three months, let's say, and
certainly deserved it at that time, and he was the
starting pitcher if you guys don't remember, but that was

(12:36):
in the city he probably loved, Philadelphia, the host of
the game that year for the Nations by Centennial. Anyways,
I'm happy for him, no question about it. And I
am mad. I'm mad about people skipping out, but that's
for another time.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
George, let me say it all right, Go ahead, Trent.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I mean, I was just gonna add to him, like
I think.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Fitters also had made an SI Sports cover before he
went to that All Star Game too.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
By the way, he's on Monday Night Baseball selling out
the crowds over there Tiger Stadium as well. Go ahead, Candy.

Speaker 10 (13:07):
So George, people are clamoring about him because he's throwing
one hundred and three hundred and four hundred and five.
They want to see that in the All Star Game
and see how he does against some of these other hitters. Yes,
he's four and one, he's got an a ray of
two point eight one. He's pitched twenty five innings. Yes,
it is a young Corssey is. But they did give

(13:28):
others a chance, and twelve others said no, again, you
guys are forgetting that. It's not like he was voted
he was the number one on the ballot, or he
was the first one asked. He wasn't a lot of
people said no, yes, there are probably lots of others
that deserve this, but what what an honor for this
young pitcher?

Speaker 11 (13:51):
Hey George heard the first willing Seriously night, really seriously, really,
because off out Big Boy Saturday.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
If you had anything, it's stupid to say, well, they're
taking that burger out. That's not over your damn well, really,
I wouldn't even point on any committee whether the guy
should have gotten that.

Speaker 11 (14:16):
Twelve people, okay, should show up that one.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I can constall, I really can. But let's consu never
mind the eyehorn before you start settling minimum of games. Okay,
that a guy should be in you bottom nize to
sake them, my lad they went down the ladder. So
what do we do in the All Star Game? We're
here to make entertainment? Are we gonna get it?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You hormone?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Sorry, stiff, you know I'll have to have that to
add to my many other surgery. That's the most energy
I had all day after road word buse you out
of your cot picking money? O the corn? Really really
that deal over under up four.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
If all about you're probably talking about twelve players, not
twelve pictures.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That was exact twelve, No twelve other pictures. You second,
the man didn't want to couldn't make it. You bombized
six of them. All finish, Let me finish you. I'll
get out there in four years and take that hat
and make you wearing backwards that you're in backwards anyway.
But spell I had no problem with this kid being
on there. He went down the least after you get

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one or two hitters out of them and had two strikeouts.
So what you can't take it off his resume. It's
not like he was the first choice and he didn't
have twelve to work with. That's all I'm saying. Milwaukee
doesn't get any love. You couldn't have any money anyway
if it's a small market team. So you could go
out there and you can have a little bit of
love with this guy. It only helps to earn a
six fieu or seven figure pay day down the road anyhow.

(15:50):
So we're talking about from Milwaukee brewers like the fburg pirates.
These don't have any money, but the differences. The Brewers
don't trade them away. After a couple of years, they
do manage to when the fifth Pirates, well that's another story.
They walked the plank twenty thirty years ago. Way League
hit me the roll. I don't want to go ahead
and lose my voice over really, seriously, really, when you

(16:12):
should have been there Saturday, you own more excuses not
to show up, and politicians don't have.

Speaker 9 (16:18):
Personal thanks. Knock it off.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, I'm not knocking it off. I'm knocking you off.
Any with the iron. We got to take five other topics. Okay, yeah,
I don't give me that. Look, go ahead, do it
all right, anyone's called to the next topic. Zach Wheeler
will not pitch in the Elsener game to focus on
the rest of the season. Nicking. Obviously, you are pitching guy.
You like to move.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, you know what, Uh, you know, everybody needs rest,
and I think that.

Speaker 7 (16:52):
You know every to to.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
You know, only the pitcher and the pitching coach and
the manager really know how these players are going into
this All Star break and they're gonna make the best decision.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
I really feel all these guys that may have not
opted to go to the All Star Game. They want
to play in it, but they're they know they need
to stay healthy for their teams to go compete in
the second half. And you know, nobody wants to miss
an All Star Game. They're making wise decisions for their
team first and foremost, most likely, and then their own health,

(17:30):
uh secondly, So you know I support that all the time.
The one thing I will say is when guys do this,
show up at the All Star Game, sign autographs. Even
if you're not going to dress up a uniform, be
there that you were you were selected by the fans.
You better show up for the fans. You know, just
go home and go on vacation and sit on the

(17:52):
beach or something. You know what, Show up, enjoy the experience,
be with the other guys, even if you have to
do it on your own dime. Show up for the fans, because,
like Candy said, this game is always first and foremost
about the fans.

Speaker 7 (18:07):
That is it.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Bottom line, bottom line, you get better. It's this broadcasting things.
I get finished with you. It started with the Cali.
We got some big things for you on the broadcast. Brother,
I like a guy that contacts me firstly, annoy you're
ready to go tonight, right? I like those all right,
good bye Trent.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, you know for me, I second will make you
said exactly, And I think that you know, nowadays, we're
tracking a lot of indicators, right, We're tracking a lot
of UH weight reduction guys going from two fifteen to
one to ninety five already, you got a long season.
You're seeing strength measures that are coming down. Trainers are
aware of more treatment, more things they're asking for.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
So they're seeing some writing on.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
The wall that the recovery may be more important than
the actual play. And I and I think Mickey hit
that on that head really well, Like no guy wants
to say no, No one really wants to do that.
Like it's an honor. They feel that honor. But I
would second the fact in a big way. If you've
been selected for goodness sakes, man, you go and do
the weekend and celebrate and you know, shake babies and

(19:16):
kiss hands. You know, like you got to be out
there and go be there and celebrate the honor that
you got a chance to be there and be there
for the fans and sign a lot of autographs and
just be ready because we had it making in Cleveland
in nineteen ninety seven. You walk out of the hotel
and you were gonna sign two hundred and fifty autographs.
So you leave for an hour early for the ballpark

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knowing that's going to happen, and people are set for that,
they're ready for that, and that's the kind of job
of the weekend. And yet you still get the recovery.
You're not asked to go out there and throw. You
don't have to do that. All you got to do
is put on the uniform and encourage all the other players,
which is a which is a great place to be anyway.
So I do hope that those twelve players twelve pictures.

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And I don't know if we talked about position players
that anybody turned that down too, But anybody in that
situation should.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Do the same, right, all right, Steve, you know Zach
Wheel pretty well?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Kind of surprising because you know, Zach's one one of
one of the you know, an upstanding guy.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I think another thing that plays a part into it.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
I think his last start, I think he just threw
like a complete game, one hitter against the Reds or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
So that might might play play into it as well.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
You know, he's been he's been going, he's been going
deeper in games uh the season, at least at least
from from what I what I've seen when when I've
been able to catch him. So you know, as Trent
was already sitting there saying, the recovery things a big thing, and.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Trent, it's shaking hands and kissing babies.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Not shaking Is that?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
What?

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
What it is?

Speaker 6 (20:56):
But listen, you know, in all seriously, like yes, you know,
especially when you have a team like like the Phillies,
who they're trying to get over their playoff hump. They're
trying to go, they're trying to go deep, deep into October,
you expect this. And you know, as I was sitting
there saying, like we had multiple guys on that pitching staff,
you can made arguments that that should have been in

(21:17):
the All Star Game, and I'm glad that Wheeler was
the only one. And and as Katie was sitting there saying,
multiple guys have turned things down, I'm not surprised. It's
it's it's something we've talked about on other programs about
other things, All Star games, for for any of the
four major sports is almost non existing anymore. It doesn't
have the you know, the the star powered used to be.

(21:40):
But I do completely agree with both what Trent and
Mickey said. If you're if you're voted, you show up.
You you at least show up for the fans because
that that's their their big time. Not not every fan
gets a chance to to be able to go to
an All Star Game. Not every city gets a chance
to host an All Star Game. It's one of those
things where it is a prestigious thing when you have

(22:03):
it in your backyard. So that being said, like you know,
we've covered kind of all all the bases with this.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I think for for the Phillies.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
Zach Wheeler, it's all about uh being strong, strong and
ready to perform when it comes when it comes down
time for playoff time.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I think that was probably.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
The major major thing there. What to make sure he
doesn't run out of gas at the end. Where you know,
the Phillies have fallen short the last few years. That
there's a I've said it already. I believe you know,
they're managers, managers jobs on the line if they don't
get it get it done in the postseason. This year,
So I think all those things kind of play into it.

(22:43):
So we'll we'll see see if it was the right
move for for Wheeler and the Phillies. Uh in a
few more months.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
All right, Chaton, real quick. Brian's watching the Facebook lo
CBS Candy. You know, if you're interesting coming on a show.
I've seen a lot of your comments on the sideline
and inscriber tat room. Let's press there. I'll be more
than happy to scress some airtime with you. Brian is
a guy that as a friend of the show and

(23:13):
promost that one we're not on the air, So Brian,
please re tut to me. I would love to argue
as well, So go ahead, Cannie.

Speaker 10 (23:23):
The All Star Game again, is for the fans. We talk,
we talk about it's a business. Let's face it, it is.
We all think of it as a sport, but it's
a business. They make money. They're there to make money.
The same with the All Star Game. Is there to
make money to promote their stars as well to the

(23:44):
fans that might not always get a chance to see
them at a regular game or in person. So yeah,
if you're voted in, go enjoy soak it all in.
Soak in all the fans, you know, excited, happy to
be there with you, sign the autographs. This is you

(24:05):
want your lead to keep growing, That's the way to
help do it by promoting yourself and promoting your brand.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Because let's face.

Speaker 10 (24:14):
It, MLB is not the top sport when it comes
to sports, and if you want to keep it growing,
you keep publicizing it, you keep growing it, you keep
promoting it, you keep exciting the young fans, because that's
one of the things that they've they've changed. That's how

(24:34):
they've done some of the rule changes is to get
more excitement back in the game because they thought the
games were long and drawn out, so shorten the game,
put the pitch clock on there, you know, some of
those other things. But as far as Zach, do what
you think is right for you. If your body is
telling you you need the rest, rest, if you're you know,

(24:57):
but if you want to be in the game, being
the game. But I understand, you know, especially from a
pitcher standpoint, how maybe resting is better than you know, pitching,
because you pitch, you do pitch, you warm up and
do it, you know, a couple of days in there.
So I understand his decision, all right, George.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
Well, Zach Wheeler, that's his decision. But I don't agree
with that. No, he's uh, he's got h He had
the opportunity to go back not far from Smyrna, Georgia,
his little league field when he began his career thirty
years ago. He said no to that. He's up for
Canadacy for the cy Young Award in the National League.

(25:40):
This has been a great showcase. He said no to that.
I understand what he's saying. I understand what you're saying, Steven.
I know the Phillies have been shut down. They have
not got that World championship in the last few years
that a lot of people said they were going to get.
So I understand why Zach made the decision.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Do I agree with it?

Speaker 9 (25:58):
No, for all the reasons by the panel.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yes, Well, I get a great question because I don't
know how we fix this, because let's let George, we're
Tiger guys, right, like you know, we're Michigan guys, and
you know, if this came down and you know, nineteen
ninety seven, I was in that game seven X training
with the tribe, and you know, we're trying to navigate
that deal in the Marlins, and if Scooble goes in

(26:24):
and you run a risk that he can't be there
for the power Detroit Tigers in the end, who currently
sit at number one.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
They are positioned very.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well right now for a playoff run and a deep run,
and all of a sudden, Scooble fatigues out somewhere in the.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Middle of September, a week or two early.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
From when you need him. I have to ask if
it makes a difference. And as a hometown team, I
got to think, like, man, I'd rather see this guy
in October than the middle of July doing a showcase game.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
And I don't know what's right, George. I just don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
If we got to repair this thing somehow, because I
really appreciate and vowe you the fans. Maybe we got
to throw ourselves a football game together, Mickey, I don't know.
We want to entertain everybody, but I don't want to
see guys get hurt, and I want to see him
in October.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
All right, let me pick your gag off of everything
that everyone said. Number One. From a team standpoint, I
totally agree with Zach Wheeler. He tick a team over himself.
Wants to win a World Series ring. Okay, he has
to trick and who's done one to win? That covered
the championship ring, right, Mickey, you know you have a ring,
you have a legacy. People forget that. That's all important stuff.

(27:33):
But as far as everybody else on the panel, you're
all right. Show up to the events anyway, sign autographs,
whoever you have to do to promote the sports that
earning you that it is earning you a healthy living,
and I mean a healthy living. Nobody has to go
out there and wash dishes when you play baseball. They
choose to do it. That's they're prerogative. Nobody's forcing me
to do it. Nothing against dishwatchers. I got no problem

(27:53):
with them. I get it. But team wise, I'm totally
okay with that. I really am. You want to put
team ahead of I and how many times you see
a lot of that and a lot of sports? Right?
Team again tired and I look for individual numbers and
again I'm gonna figure back off the Clarks. You said,
okay that being this, you need him in October, You
not worry about July. I get it. Everybody on the

(28:15):
panel makes excellent point. Coiet Stephen.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
So Trent was saying, how we could fix this? You
know how you how you fix this? You don't have
the All Star Game in July. You vote who goes in, and.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Then after after spring training as your team is getting
ready for for the for the first few games of
the season, and you already have the World Baseball Classic,
you have the Olympics and all.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
That do it at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Well, I nominated Stephen to be in Commissioner Major League Baseball.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
That question for Mickey Callaway, Mickey, I think I'm running
my memory back. But you were a number one in Buffalo,
right you were? You were a number one guy right
back in the day.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Well, I wouldn't call him that. I was through eighty eight.
I pitched effectively Sam and Durham though.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, So, I mean, you think about this guy at
number one for Triple A. You you go to like
an American League All Star Game, or you go to
a Pacific Coast League All Star Game as a number one.
But if you thought that would cause you a September
call up and a chance of making a roster, would
you do it?

Speaker 5 (29:23):
You know, I think I would have to base it
off of what my workload was lately.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
You know, if I if I.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Didn't see any you know, strain, or I thought it
was perfectly safe to go out there. I'm right in
between starts. You know, some people need to pitch in
the All Star Game because they pitched six days ago
and they don't want to take ten days off. So
it really depends on when I had pitched last, how

(29:49):
I was feeling throughout the you know, the middle of
the season, and I think they these teams, like you said,
they're they're monitoring stress, they're monitoring work loads. They're able
to rest all of these guys throughout the season to
see how strong they are, and if they're fatigued at all,
they need to take this you know, three or four
days off and come back and you know, maybe push

(30:12):
them to the end of the rotation after the All
Star break and give them as much rest as possible
so they can come back and be as effective as
they possibly can, especially these teams in a playoff run.
So I would really base that decision, probably like Zach
Wheeler did, on how I'm feeling at the time, what's
my workload been, how much rest do I need?

Speaker 7 (30:32):
You know, that's another thing is there's a.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Lot of stuff that is not disclosed to the public. Yeah,
Zach could be he could have a blister, he could
have a bad toenail, and those things can get you
hurt if you're trying to pitch through things. Now, you're
going to pitch through them, you know, in meaningful games,
But to go pitch in the All Star Game with
something that's tweaked a little bit. These pitchers do not

(30:57):
fill one hundred percent. Ever, once you get up to
the big leagues, you will never feel one hundred percent.
So if you're at eighty percent, you're probably taking taking
the All Star break off.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Good points, excellent point. I we'll stay on the pitching
thing that will go to the station and break ABS
Challenge systems be used in the All Star Game. You know,
I like lead up with you, Mickey. I'm going to
do it again. When you think about the ABS Challenge
being utilized so the whole world can see it.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
You know, if if we're gonna introduce it at some point,
let's introduce it in a big game and show the
world what it is. It better, it better worked really
well and not caused too much controversy, or then it's
off the table forever because you know, like we talked about,
this is for the fans, and the fans need to
buy into all these rule changes and things that's going on.

(31:47):
And if they don't, then I don't think that if
the fans, I think the fans should vote on that
kind of stuff. If the fans don't want it in,
then it shouldn't be in there. Like we talk about
all the time, if this is for the fans, they
need to have a say in what's going on in
Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I'll say one thing about it. We'll talk about the
fans a lot. Rob Manfred has been the guy that's
had to go out on the pull up. Some of
them may not always be favorable. Rob Manfred is the
guy who's done a pretty good job on some toughestions
to his respect. But you're right, Nicky points all right, Clerky.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I mean, I think I think the one thing I
like about the ABS challenges, I think it encourages offensive
players to swing the bat Like everyone's picking at corners.
Everyone is, they're gonna get to know that zone better
because it's never gonna change if they ever use it. Right,
So you got to know your zones. You gotta know
where you're gonna hit. You got to know your nine
zones and be able to hit out of all nine,
because now they're gonna pick on you. They're gonna find

(32:46):
that zone and they're gonna and you know, this guy
can throw a freaking baseball in a thimble, Bicky Collaway, right,
So if he knows I can't hit up and out,
he's gonna hit me in that zone all day long.
And I'm gonna be popping out to the third basement,
be doing all the crap until I learned how to
do it. And so it's gonna encourage guys to swing
the bat. And I think we need more offense. I

(33:07):
think we need to get the game moving. So roll
the poll man. These guys are good, and you've got
to be ready to and you got to bring your
a game.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
You gotta be ready to go. And I think it's
gonna encourage that.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
I'm all for it, you know, as making saense, you
know better better doing the All Star Game than in
the playoffs in the World Series, where.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
You know other things that you know got you know, guys.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
And teams expect things to be done in another way, Like,
you know, I showed some stuff when we were doing
the fan in the end last week game that obviously
you know, the Phillies and the Giants game, and umpire
Phil Couzy was just all over the place.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
There was balls that are like foot and a half
out of the zone. He's calling strikes the next.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Inning, there's there's ball there, there's strikes that are that
are that are that are borderline.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's just it's there's no consistency to it.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
And I think this is something that will help everyone
out and you won't you won't have having you won't
have your your your your coach going out there yelling
at an umpire for for having an inconsistent zone where
you know where. Now we're gonna implement the system and
everyone's gonna know what the zone is. You don't have

(34:20):
to worry about this how this umpire calls it or
that umpire calls it. You're you'll have a consistent base
to kind of go off of, and we won't really
have some of these blow ups and these goofy situations
that that we that.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
We've been getting in baseball on something that we've been
used to. I mean, I I mean, obviously there's gonna
be people that are gonna a guesst it.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
You know, I was sitting there saying the other side
of this is, unfortunately, there's gonna be umpires that are
losing their jobs over this. It's it's not and I
don't want to see anyone out in the street not
not working out doing things they love.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
But at the same time, you know, we're human beings.
We make errors.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
There there's no system in place to fix that outside
of having having you know, Catcher batter, coach call upon.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
A review of a play, which which is going to
slow everything down.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
So if we're implementing the system that that one speed
things up, holds the the zone accountable in a way
that that that helps both pitcher and batter, I'm definitely
all for it, All Star game moving forward, see how
it all works out.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Excellent point. So the first three Candy your Meeta Candy.

Speaker 10 (35:34):
MLB officials said seventy two percent of fans who were
polled during spring training said the impact of ABS on
their experience of the game was a positive one. Sixty
nine percent said they'd like it to be part of
the game moving forward. Just ten percent expressed negative negativity

(35:55):
towards it. MLB's Competition Committee will later this determined if
ABS will be instituted next season, after the league has
tested the robotic system to the minor leagues and spring
training in recent years.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I think it'll be interesting to see. I think it's
good for the game.

Speaker 10 (36:16):
Let's face it, there's always going to be part of
human element. In human element, there's always room for air.
It's always going to be, you know, part of it.
But I think it's good. I think it's good for
the game, and yeah, I'm excited to kind of watch.

Speaker 9 (36:35):
I have chron night George Well, I think it's just
a peculiar time to do it. I mean, they haven't
done it in Major League Baseball season first half of
the season, and now to come and do it. But
they got a good man behind home play. Veteran umpire
Dan Ayasanga is calling the balls and strikes and inspire as.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm concerned.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
He and first base mPire Marvin Hudson, either one of
them could have been behind to play their damn good umpires,
and I expect them to call a good game. The
only other thing people forget is you only get two challenges,
but you retain your challenge if you're successful. So yes,
you could get two, and if you're wrong both of them,
your team is done. Your team the American League National.
No more challenges. They're not saying that, but that's what

(37:18):
it says right here at mlbig dot com. I just
read it two challenges and can keep them if they're successful.
So it's only the picture the catcher or the batter.
I like that role, not a manager or a coach.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Sorry, guys, well reality, it's just intriguingly rule you get
a chance to see it on the National Saint tomorrow night.
That is a national stage. Indeed, yeah you will. So
now a lot of people are going to be working
at so why not a lot of people wondered about
the pitchclock right, I was not going to work out well.
These will work out pretty well and a lot of
work chap to go about that. Now we're taking another area,

(37:54):
the world of pitchy, which, by the way, my skipper
right here has to be knowledgeable enough, and we're opening
it up with the AVIA system. Not matter if it happens,
no matter when it happens, you're just gonna have a
lot more eyes on it. I'm starting to like and
move a little. I have to see things in person,
really trawing my own inclusions. It's taken a while and

(38:15):
when I get down to my Marylin gage from time
to time that I can give it the eyeball test
that we call it right. But at some point or another,
and like I said, Don manningly told me once upon
a time, whether you like the whos or not, you
have to get used to them. So there's no sense complaining,
and go ahead, Clarky.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You know major championship yesterday, Wimbledon, London, England. You know
I've been watching for years. You know I was a
collegiate player, blah blah blah, and I was a little
tripped out. You no longer have linesmen, lines people in Wimbledon, right,
You have a chair umpire and that's it because you
know the psyclops is calling all the lines.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
So they've gone to all the system.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Now it's done and there's only one person as an official.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
The home plate umpire is never going to be replaced.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
There's still plays that are gonna off and at home
they're never going to leave that position. So I don't
think anybody's getting replaced by this. I think this is
a little bit better system, and I was shocked. And
I don't know, maybe this has been a while in tennis.
Maybe I just didn't notice, but it was weird watching
and not seeing somebody back there in the background, and
I thought it was on.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Well, real technology, as we use that right.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
By the way, what that congrats to center. By the way,
we're winning the you know, Wimbledon title.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Okay, tennis, you know, so the reality is that, okay,
we have tennis. Well, you know, we will give tent
trying an opportunity have a tennis segment on there s
if you like this. So it's not like we have
to cross over the hockey even kind of if the
chat room enable it. The reality is they have technology,

(39:50):
right man, might as we use it any way that
we can, and if it means shoring up here and there,
more power to them. A right they were going to
camp to a station break some other in treating comics
as well. I have a couple of things that are
that were going on in Skip's world that he's going
to talk about, right Skip, So the part of the
broadcast and then about having your own in house Skipper,

(40:10):
then you we cover more bases of theok shows whiut
there as well, Skipper. It is I start having to
evaluate Clayton mccollough's comments in about a week or two
where we start putting some sound bites on there that'll
be coming up the future shows. Thanks you write down
with this.

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Speaker 1 (41:26):
Also our memory time July fourteenth, nineteen seventy, Pete Rose
collide with Ray Fosse in the Alfaur Game. Unfortunately for
Ray Fosse for never the same. Of course, Pete Rose
didn't make it to the Hall of Fame. But after
that particular reason, I had opportunities to pack to Ray
Fosse about this when I cover the Agency Frank training
in the Cactusy before and he says, without a doubt
he was never the same, but he never begrudged Roads

(41:49):
for doing what he did. So when we talk about
the Altar game and put it in his perspective, also
entertaining for fans, you have realized that careers have to
be taken seriously. All take the one place that even
and a career in such a thing. And when he
had a lot Now Rose Boston was one of the
best catchers that ever played the game, only he doesn't
get the credit he deserves in catching circles. So if

(42:11):
that said, Nick, what do you think about Ray Posey,
one of the best catchers ever played the game never
got his recognition And what are you're talking about the
play in general? I saw what happened. It's very one
of the super nice guy.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Yeah, you know, I'm obviously a great catcher. He's playing
in the All Star Game. That was a different time
back then, right, That's the way the game was played.
And you know what, you're breaking up double plays, you're
knocking the second basement with a short stop into the outfield.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
That's just the way it was. You're you're running.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
One of my favorite plays and the Big Leagues ever,
was when Norm Charlton comes around. He's he's the pitcher,
he's got his jacket on and he runs around and
he's he's just leveling the catcher. That is what baseball
was all about back then. You know, I was a
young kid and I loved it. And that's how we
played Little League too. You know, now you can't do

(43:01):
that kind of stuff, and it's a different game. But
back then, these guys were dirt bags. They played the
game the right way. I miss some of that. I
understand why the rules have changed. Obviously, we have to
protect people. We don't want Buster posey. You know, what
happened to him just to continue to happen to other players.
But man, was that fun to watch back then. Because

(43:23):
you just never knew what was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, and what are you talking about the Rose Bossy situation?
That was an impactful play in this game.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Yeah, and you know that was when when you're going
up against the best, they're they're gonna do everything they
can to win within the rules.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
And Pete Rose.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Did that then that that play and he you know,
he played the game harder than anybody else, so you
kind of expected that was going to happen. You know,
when Pete Rose is coming coming towards you at home.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Excellent point, Sorry Clarky.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's one of the most heartbreaking
things in baseball because it's such a celebration of fandom
and this is what it's all about. And of course
two players playing hard, which you know that was one
of the hardest guys playing in the in in baseball
at the time and probably as a legacy, one of
the hardest ever.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
And man, it's an unfortunate situation.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
And you know, Ray Fosse and every catcher whoever has
played the game knows that's a risk, right, this is
the reality of the deal. This is why they got
gear and uh, it's a it's A.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
It's a horrible situation.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
It's just probably one of the most unfortunate events ever
in baseball. And there's a lot of them, right, There's
a lot of unfortunate events, and uh, that's probably one
of the one, one of the ones that's probably the
most memorable for for my.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Era for sure. Yeah, no question about it, all right, Yeah,
I mean it.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
You know, as Mickey said, it's one of the things
that you know, it's changed, you know, you know, he's
you know, he's not the only one that that wasn't
the same. You've had a lot of guys that you know,
had multiple knee injuries, can cut you know, you.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Know, Darren Dalton comes to Maya.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
How many times he had his knees blown out here
here in Philadelphia? Obviously Homer and out a little bit.
But you know, you know, you either find ways to
kind of continue or not. And you know, obviously you
know we're talking about All Star memories.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
You know, I got to bring up two thousand and one.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Man, it's it's still you know Ripkins, Ripkin and Tony
Gwinn's kind of fair farewell.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
There's Swan songs out Rodriguez, you.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
Know, uh, moving from shortstop to third to kind of
let Ripkin play the All Star Game at his natural
position now hitting the home run. I mean we're talking,
we're bringing up All Star memories that that's kind of
one that's that sticks to my mind obviously.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Also I think.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Randy Johnson, buzz and John Crooks and in the one
he was basically swinging to get out of there because
they didn't want nothing to do with Randy Johnson. After that,
there's listen, this is we're all sittinger smile and lambing about.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
We're talking about that. This is why.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Fans love, love the All Star Game, and we need
to find a way to make it matter again.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
That's why John Cruck is in the broadcastings for the Phillys.
Everybody knows how good he is anyways, I know about him.
I used to.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
He's got a great baseball mind.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
I know, you know, he's a goof at times if
you checked out like some of their their videos they
were doing during that time, like kind of remembering that
the seasons and stuff. John Cruck was kind of a
part part of those Phillies teams. And he not only
is is he got like some great baseball iq you know, Yeah,

(46:40):
He's pretty funny at times.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
John Crook made the best damn fortune look pretty good
with his demeanor. Now it's forms of.

Speaker 10 (46:49):
All right, well you already got the cut out of
the bed. Obviously. My favorite memory is going to be
two thousand and two because I was actually there in Milwaukee.
My dad was an usher for at the stadium. So
I started out. I had my tickets. They were way
up in the nosebleed, uh, but some people left early,

(47:12):
believe it or not. I got to move way down
in the in the front. I was probably like fifth throw,
I want to say, for like the seventh inning on Yes,
that's the game where it was went into the eleventh
inning and Bud Seeley called it because there were no

(47:34):
pitchers left the pitch and they weren't going to have
position players pitching that game. So that game ended in
a tie. So I, yes, I saw I was part
of history. I saw part of history, the only All
Star game that ended in a tie. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
With me.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
When I talked the Ray Bossey and you recorded a
lot of what he takes about what Ray Fossey was
telling me back then, I know you had to have
some memories about our conversation. She was out there as
we were. I was doing the interview Mackey with Ray
because they were in Nation at the time. What vibes
did you get out of Bossy was telling me Candy.

Speaker 10 (48:18):
It's always when you interview somebody and they're talking about
their career, there's always an excitement that they, you know,
talk and tell good stories and it's always interesting to
learn and listen and hear them.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
It was.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
That was a great interview.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
It was good, Yeah, Mickey. I approached Ray Foster's interview
like I approached hers last Wednesday night because I knew
the situation pretty well. And I think the key aspects
of being a good interview is the topic could be
all right, but you have to be very careful how
you work a particular question so that you're able to
do it in such a way where it's relatable to

(49:01):
both sides and you're able to maximize the opportunity on
both fends. And Ray and I I. The mutal respect
making Trent that I was able to get there was
unbelievable and we had a good time. I think I
did write an article. I don't never word that, but
that was one thing that stood out in my mind
and being a pitcher of being on the wrong end
of those collisions myself, because like Nicky and I were

(49:22):
choking around on camera, I got a picture. Now he's
my lady and I'm a tencher. So they get to
talk about pitching and catching all the time. I get,
I said, Mickey and I talked about her. We want
to right, I got picking and bring about any day.
And when I when this came my way, I thought
this was an opportunity to say, hey, we all know
that the type of player Pete Rose is is who is.
Nobody will ever question about him as a player. It's

(49:43):
just off the field issues that got him in trouble
but prevented them from not getting in the Hall of Fame.
Nobody can ever question the guys greatness. The only problem
in Pete Rose's cave when he got left off, he
kept lying and denying. And when you lion den I
about something top of it, that's going to make you
look awfully bad. And nobody will ever question his competitiveness,
let alone demeanor. Okay, George, go ahead, you have final

(50:05):
word on this topic. A few more to go.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Well, you know, I.

Speaker 9 (50:12):
Understand what people are saying, but Pete Rose only knew
one way to play, and that's the way he played,
whether it's going to be an exhibition game called the
All Star Game, or whether it was going to be
a regular season game. My second point is is, and
Fosse said this, he never got an apology from Rose.
You're not going to get an apology from Pete Rose
on anything like that. It's not that Ray was looking

(50:34):
for it, but somebody in the media. I don't think
it was when you interviewed him, Scott, but somebody else
did ask him, well, did you ever get an apology
from him? Sad to say, you know, Ray died a
couple of years ago from cancer. And then the other
point is it wasn't exactly the end of his career
at that point on. He had over four hundred at

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bats both that season that he was in that collision
and three subsequent seasons. So after that he started showing
somewhere untire, different things were breaking down in his body.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
But it wasn't.

Speaker 9 (51:07):
People misunderstand They think that that was the end of
his career right there. That is not true. He played
four hundred plust bats in four consecutive years, including the
year he was hit in the home plate. I just
want to state that.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, and George let me also talk about that as well. Uh,
it definitely wasn't the end of his career. It's all
anybody will say. As his career was not the same
after they hit. There's a difference between Mickey with me.
There's a difference between the end of your career and
let alone being the same player after or do you
agree or disagreement?

Speaker 9 (51:41):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (51:41):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
You know there's there's players that you know, they just
keep competing and and they're good enough to stay, but
they're just not the same for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, and that's where that has a Mickey has the
last note there, but he'll have the first. Not well,
I have to say, go ahead, Candy side.

Speaker 10 (52:00):
I just want to direct everybody if anybody wants to read.
Scott originally posted his article in the SOLF on the
South Florida Tribian website on nine of twenty eighteen. We
reposted it back on October sixteenth of twenty twenty one
as a tribute to Ray, who had lost his battle

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with cancer. On October thirteenth of twenty twenty one on
the South Florida Tribune.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
So why don't you repost it again, Candy again with
this video in it that we talked about. How that
that why people won't have to search for it. Thanks.
I know we had done it recently, I know for
Candy so buried with all the stuff we have when
we were in Europe. Well Detroit, but that's okay. We're
not giving your time bring the catch up every day
we've done. But I'm glad that you were able to

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let people know when we've done and now we can
just refresh it again. All right, Well, we're going to
talk about a guy that mister Callway knows all too much.
Recent I threw a milestone to Terry Francona becoming a
thirteenth manager to reach thousand victory. How proud of you that?

Speaker 9 (53:02):
Ye?

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Yeah, so proud.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
I mean obviously Hall of Famer shoe in Hall of
Famer for me to get to that, Uh, you know
that amount of wins, You're you're doing.

Speaker 7 (53:14):
Something right, you know, Tito.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Terry Francona is one of the best managers that's ever
managed this game.

Speaker 7 (53:21):
And uh, kudos to him, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
So happy for him.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
What a great, great man and great manager.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Well do you think Trent, Tito two thousand and Yeah, man, I.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Mean, first of all, throw these back.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
You know, you know, left in Cleveland and it was
a real question on Tito whether he was who would
ever return. So found a place in Cincinnati doing amazing things.
You know, winners find a way, right, Like, he's a
he's a guy who gets it done. And uh, you know,
I've never had someone coach with him, manage with him,

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be a manager under him as a player who doesn't
respect the guy as a baseball man.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
So it's a it's a what a what a accomplishment?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Like only thirteen people right, like ever, so it's a
big deal and half off the titough man.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
Listen, you know I got I definitely got love for
him as as he was a part of a part
of the Phillies organization. Uh, people also tend to forget,
you know, he was a first round draft pick at
at one point in time in his playing day. So
uh you know, uh good to see him, you know,
you know, hit this milestone and uh you know has

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something to cheer about. As Trent was in the saying, like,
you know, there was a point in time we didn't
know if he was going to come back with capacity
he'd be back in will he will he continue to
win games. Hopefully he's able to, you know, uh, get
get some things together, maybe maybe get get another couple
of playoff runs, to get another run in another championship.
But uh, two hundred wins is not anything that to

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turn your nose down at, and it's not.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
An easy thing to do in baseball.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
So, uh, he's He's been a part of a of
a lot of a lot of franchises, you know, you know,
philadelphir Post and uh with you.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Know, the Reds are all everywhere. He's been everyone.

Speaker 6 (55:20):
You don't really have a whole lot of players that
have a negative thing to say about about Terry Frank Francona,
So you know, uh, caps off to him.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
You know, hopefully we get to get to see Terry
ram for a few more years.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
My friend maybe years ago in opportunity interviewing as a player.
I haven't talked him since, but I'm sure with the
Marlin's in the Red play at some point I'll get
around and do with it again. But meanwhile, I'm happy
that he's in the game. We had two thousand wins.
Plastro was a pretty impressive one to get to.

Speaker 10 (55:49):
He started his career playing in MLB from eighty one
to eighty five, eighty eight. I'm sorry he played the
Montreal I suppose the Chicago Clubs, so many Reds, Cleveland Indians,
and yes maa Milwaukee Rivers.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Then he has been.

Speaker 10 (56:08):
A manager as well. Kudos to somebody that, let's face it,
in today's day and age, there are so many one
and gune coaches or so many people that leave the
game early because they're they're not successful. If you love
what you do shows and you have longevity because if

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you love what you're doing, it's no longer a job.
And that's one of the differences. And I think that's
why you have longevity, and that's not something you in
today's day and age. They say that the kids that
graduate from like high school, they're going to have four
or five different careers, not jobs, not employers, careers. So

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kudos to him for loving what he does and to
do it for as long as he as he That
says a lot about him as a person and how
he feels about the game. And you know, that's one
thing that we've talked about numerous times on different shows,

(57:15):
is how people don't know the history of the game.
Young players can always know the history of the game.
But for someone to be in the game as long
as you have and have any kudos.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 9 (57:30):
Yeah, he coached one year. Unfortunately it was one of
the worst years in Tiger history, one hundred and nine
lost team back back in the days at Tiger Stadium.
But I'll tell you what, he's a great guy, great coach.
He missed most of the twenty twenty season, as we
all know, because of the blood cloud issue, and he's

(57:51):
had other serious scares with his health. And I really
think that he has proven beyond a doubt that he
is definitely, uh a first string Hall of Famer, first ballot,
if you will. I know managers they take usually a
little bit longer to get in. But uh, he's done
a great job as a player, a coach or manager,

(58:13):
and he really is a great, great instrumental, uh instrument
to to to go by. As far as you want
to look for character in this game of baseball, that
doesn't get much better than Terry Francona.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Okay, all right, just Risen Jim Clancy star player dies
at the age of sixty ninth of the Toronto Blue day.
What are your talks about Jim Clancy next?

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Well, you know, I don't think I really know too
much about him. Obviously. It's a it's a sad day
when when we lose somebody that uh was part of
our baseball family. So you know, prayers and thoughts go
out to his family and friends and to all the
baseball fans out there that enjoyed watching him play.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Okay, Trent, Yeah, same, I echo that, man. Like you know,
what's really unique is this is a very small fraternity,
and I love the fact that, you know, people are
just behind and supporting another athlete, you know, and we
see this almost on a weekly basis right where we're
watching these athletes, and you know, at our age, there's

(59:23):
many of them that have impacted our lives in a
bunch of good ways. And we can thank the media
for that. We can thank you know, television, we can
thank the radio and the broadcasters and all the.

Speaker 9 (59:34):
Things that made us.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
It's a it's a both.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
It's kind of bittersweet, right, you hate to see someone go,
But I think when these things happen, they bring up
sweet memories of fathers with their sons and going to
the ballpark for the first time, and the stories we
share about our heroes, and it's a lot of it's
a lot of trading of information and most.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Of it's really positive.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
So you hate to see a member of the fraternity
pass and move on, but man, you know, it also
gets a great reminder of the blessing they were.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
It's rough when when we lose any of one of
our alumni, regardless, you know, you know, Hall of Fame worthy,
all star player, role player, whatever, you know, when we
lose lose someone in the in the baseball fraternity, you
always gotta, you know, show your love and you know,
you know, Jim played played what twelve years in the

(01:00:35):
league or so, so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
It's ah, you always want to.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Remember, find find the fun memories, the good memories. Talk,
see see what their teammates had to say about him.
It's a yeah, another unfortunate loss in the in the
in the baseball community.

Speaker 10 (01:00:52):
Candy, he was a starting pitcher. He played in Major
League Baseball for the Toronto Blue Jays from seventy seven
to eighty eight, the Houston Astros eighty nine to ninety one,
Atlanta Braves.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
In ninety one as well.

Speaker 10 (01:01:06):
He did make one time he made the All Star
Game back in nineteen eighty two, so kudos for him.
He struck out one thousand, four hundred and twenty two batters.
His urn run average was four point two three. But
he pitched for as long as he did, and just

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to pitch that long in the league, that says a
lot about him too, because to pitch twelve previous starter
twelve years for the Toronto Blue Jays, that's pretty impressive.
Rip to his friend's family and the whole baseball.

Speaker 9 (01:01:47):
Community, George, Yeah, you know, the Tigers were some great
rivalry games there with Toronto, as we know over the years,
they were in the same division for quite years together,
the American League East Detroit in Toronto, and I remember
he was one of their better pitchers, you know. And
I know Dave Steve and Dave Lemanchak and the Underwood brothers,

(01:02:12):
one of their played for Toronto. They had some really
good pitching back then, and they certainly shut down Detroit's
bats quite a bit so, and I remember Jim Clancy
in that regard as far as coming into Tiger Stadium
and pitching some great games against Detroit. And it is sad,
and again he rest in peace. Sixty nine is way

(01:02:32):
too young, and uh condolencester to his family and all
the baseball fans that followed his career.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Well you know all that then as well the fun
George I went to a game over at the old
Cleveland Universal Statey in Trenton. A little bit about that everybody,
and he nearly broke a perfect game the ball hitting
a rock in the second Wow. Believe no hit perfect

(01:03:01):
game ending that way because of a rock writ in
the mill a second base at Clevelandipal. That's for real.
But nevertheless, one of the rest in pieces mentioning Joe Coleman.
And there's a little interesting nugget about Joe Coleman. Get this.
He was the number three pick in the inaugural MLB draft.

(01:03:22):
He dies at the age of seventy eight. And you
imagine that the inaugural ping in the in the MLB
dass can you think how far the MLB draft? We
know we had good success in Detroit and him and
Billy Martin worked pretty well together. So Georgia, let you
lead up with this. So we talk about Joe Coleman.
I had a chance to catch up with him when
he was a super or hammer head. That was good

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interview with him. But Joel Coleman was Tigers and of
course he's a baseball lifer.

Speaker 9 (01:03:49):
Yeah, yeah, he sure is. And what a great trade
that John manager Jim Campbell. Uh, And he traded Denny
McLain and got that great haul including Joe Coleman, really
Rodriguez and Eddie Brinkman. One of the best trades in
Detroit history. But yeah, Joel was a lifer, baseball blood
in his family. He really was a great guy. Uh,

(01:04:11):
from all indications. Like you said, it's not easy getting
along with Billy Martin. But Colebyn had some really good years.
He asked in twenty twenty one seasons, and he had
some of his best years in Detroit. So sad to
see him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Go oh Billy Martin. And here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
That yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Oh so Scott Man, I'm kind of choked up about this.
I haven't heard this news until now.

Speaker 7 (01:04:42):
When did this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Happen, Joe Coleman, Yeah, a few days ago.

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
Oh Man, somehow I did not know this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
He was my favorite pitching coach I've ever had in
my life, really taught taught me more than anything than anybody.
And I'm just hearing this news for the first time,
and it's kind of making me tear up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
So, Nikki, where were you at when you had Joe
as a coach?

Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
I had Joe and Durham and Durham when I was
with Tampa Bay.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
You want to talk about an unbelievable pitching coach, and
like y'all said, Baseball life or this guy had the
calmest demeanor though the way he worked with pitchers was unbelievable.
I remember him coming up to me and challenging me
in the best ways, all the time, looking me in

(01:05:37):
the face. Hey, do you want to pitch in the
big leagues or not? Let's go get your working. He
taught me more about pitching than probably anybody I've ever
been around. And I'm real shaken right now. I can't
believe I haven't heard this news. I've kind of been
engrossed in my lessons and that's tough to hear right now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Well, lur the the time that people realize he's about
making kelway. And I for those of you that are
here for the first time and listen to Wednesday show,
I will spring trainings and Mickey will tell you right
now he's personal. Tell you I don't have to take
that question. But I research everything I have to do

(01:06:16):
to make sure everything is exactly you know, And you
know that's why wet a good working relationship, George. I mean,
you know when I was doing stuff there. Yeah, you know,
Nicky Ill you we make sure we come up with
the best, most informative stuff. And I'm sorry for your
loss now for that matter, Mickey, I am, but at
least you get to talk about me. At least you

(01:06:38):
get to talk to him on your own show. So, Joe,
and that you filed an analyst role here that you
can contribute to baseball. Joe right now is looking at
you have that of boy and making you're not may
not be fitting anymore. But they're talking about the part
he's probably saying.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
He's he's got a big dip in his mouth and
he's got just tobacco all over his mouth.

Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
He was, he was, he was the best.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah, when I had that interview with him over at
Roger Dean Stadium. Really nice guy, a guy always wanted
to meet, largely because of what he did for the Tigers.
And we know about that steal of a trade involving
the other players. I can get into it right now.
This is more about Joe Coleman. After player he was.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
He was an amazing golfer too.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
We played golf all the time at the Duke Course
and in Chapel Hill area. What an amazing golfer he
could really put hit the ball straight.

Speaker 7 (01:07:30):
I mean this guy. Wow, what an unbelievable man he was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yeah, he really is for sure. So even you're talking
about Joe Coleman.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Yeah, same same with Mickey. I didn't know he had
passed yet.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
So again, you know, when when you wind up catching
this news is just like it's rough man, Like you know,
Mickey's telling us like he's he's one of those guys
that just will find ways.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
To push him.

Speaker 6 (01:07:57):
Like you don't have enough good good coaches who just
find ways to connect with athletes, and that not not
just the one that screams and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Hollers and and and wants you to do do your
do your bleeping job.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
That you want those guys who connect with you, who
who after you know, you know, after your your sessions
are over, you can go have a beer and have
a talk with its still just talk baseball, talk life.
Those people are so few and far between in professional sports.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
It's it's laughable. You know, it's it is.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
You know, it doesn't matter what level level you're at, dude,
When when when you lose a coach of that magnitude,
it tugs at the heartstrings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Man. So it's rough when when you you lose and
you lose a real a real.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Man like that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
So it's yeah, here here Mickey being torn up by
by it. It just goes and makes you think, like,
you know, who's the first person that taught me x
y and Z. And then you start then you start
getting in your feelings about it. So it's one of
these things where you know you can't predict it. We
don't know how much time we have on this earth.
So if you have somebody like that in your life,

(01:09:11):
just celebrate them with them as long as you can
while they're still here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
My friends, hold your loved ones tighter.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Some of the principles involved in that trade. Shorts mentioned
earlier Eddie Prankman. What a great short coup he was
with Detroit, he really was. And of course that wasn't
good enough. How about a really robberge. Hey, Josh, are
you doing on my front? He's another friend of the show, Nick,
So there you know, but really Roberge is any McClain,
Eddie Prinkman. My gosh, that's a pretty good return. I

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don't have to get in the gist of the All right, well,
you know what we're gonna talk about this trade. Then
we're gonna go. We're gonna give everybody a little bit
about them, make me do any things, and that'll be
a regular feature here every week, so people realize this
guy is not really giving us his information on Monday nights,
but he's also giving us the people.

Speaker 10 (01:10:04):
Joe Old professional baseball as a pitcher from nineteen sixty
five to nineteen eighty two. Included fifteen seasons in Major
League Baseball with the Washington Sentintles, Detroit Tigers, Chicago Cubs,
Oakland Athletics, Toronto Blue Jays, San Francisco Giants, and Pittsburgh Pirates.

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And then he was coaching, Like I remember you us
going to the minor league game and he was there
and you got a chance to talk to him and
you got an interview and it was just really cool
to see you talk to him and him give insights
rest in Peaceto. I mean, he was a good man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Scott.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
If I could say one other thing, those guys of
that era. I remember talking to Joe how many how
many why win seasons did he have? Maybe four something
like that, something like that. George probably he his top
salary I remember, if I recall correctly, was like sixty

(01:11:11):
thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
So no, So those guys came and you know, they
worked with us.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
They they they needed to do it, you know, until
that obviously they start drawing retirement and then they can
live comfortably, you know, Johnny Gorrel, same way to be
around those guys that just want to be part of it,
and no other players nowadays from now on is gonna
get to be around a guy that want that played.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
As many years as Joe Coleman.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
No minor league is gonna have a pitching coach like
him that won as many games as he did and
played for as many years in the big leagues, because
those guys just aren't gonna coach in the minor leagues
making thirty eight thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
They're just not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
You know, I have a guy that's a friend of
the show that I'm working on decide a man later
this year will be Willie Blair, And I actually have
met him. I'm sure your pasts will probably across the
will we're out that I got you on. I'm going
to get to two guys on the same show, don't worry.
Making very agreed to do it. I think he's in
the minor league coach, and I believe it that Dayton

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prior to that, he was a big tone of or
two as well. Andy, Trent, both on the hands.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Trent, you want to add go ahead, Kiddy.

Speaker 10 (01:12:27):
Oh, I just wanted to say that Coleman was son
of former Major Picture Joe Coleman and the father of
former Major Pitt Casey Coleman. The trio are the first
three generation pictures in MLB history as well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Stuff. I saw that, but I'm glad you brought it up.
Very appropriate, Candy, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Go ahead, Trent.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Yeah, finally one for me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
I think Mickey brings up a really big point, which
is legacy, right Like I think a lot of players
have impact on the game, but what anyone whoever's been
kind of lives through this life. We have people to
help us get to where we want to go, and
we're super fortunate to have these coaches and mentors who
impact us. And I think the real legacy is when
Joe Coleman turns out and says, hey, I'm going to

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be that legacy and impact and mentor for someone else,
like a Mickey Callaway.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
And then Mickey takes that great information. He's taking that on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
To a number of organizations and brought his expertise to
that and helped shape the lives of other young players.
And I think that's really, to me, the legacy. I
think that's the legacy more so than the twenty game.
You know, four seasons and that's the lifetime of a
man who's given back, and I think that's what we

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really called for. So, you know, kudos to Joe when
a life well lives, right, well done, good and faithful service.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Great. So you know what, Mickey, guess what is your segment? Right?

Speaker 11 (01:13:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Man? Yeah, I'm having.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
I'm having trouble hearing you, Scott all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
All right, can you hear me now? Yeah? I can
hear you? Can hear me? Try again, going to the
yeah I'm here man? Is that better? Mickey? All right?

(01:14:20):
That better technology wins again? How to collaborate when that happens?
Can you hear me now, Mack?

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Can you hear me now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
It goes my hair. And then again, if you saw
what I have happened last Monday night, there was a
whole lot left. All right, wait for Mickey. Sure he'll
come back on any second. We'll get to figure it out.
But so far, so good, as we appreciate all the
partication in the caroom. All right, Mickey can hear us?
All right? He can hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Mick, Yeah, you can't hear He can't hear I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Where's our technical guy when you need him? All right, Mickey,
we're gonna talk about your lessons only when you're able
to do that. You hear that part? I hope you're not. No,
all right, well let's see what do you suggest, Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Don't Why don't we close the show and when we
get back to Mickey, Mickey can close out and talk
a little bit about his lessons.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
We'll do him last.

Speaker 12 (01:15:37):
Well, all right, so you think basically what Tran's trying
to do is give him give him Mickey a window
here kind of do everyone else is goodbye, and hopefully
we can squeeze Mickey in at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Yeah, well that's time we can we can do that, okay.
By the way, there is an All Star game tomorrow, Okay,
and I'm on Derby right now. Yeah, all right, always
guess who the pitching matchups Srek, Scoogle, Paul Stevens, George
So talks about that match up.

Speaker 10 (01:16:09):
Your muted George.

Speaker 9 (01:16:15):
All right, George, I know I know a lot of
people like that matchup. I'm included on that, Scott. He's
gonna give it all he can. I just hope what
you were saying earlier, Trent, that he doesn't do something
crazy there. And I'm speaking of schooble schemes. Unfortunately, most
more likely than not will not be in the postseason.

(01:16:36):
But this is a good matchup, and like you guys
were saying earlier, this is what the fans want to see.
So it's gonna be a hell of a first inning.
Don't forget. They only go one inning. It's not like
the old days when they went like three innings, the
starters only one inning.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
If I don't I don't want to be in the
top three holes in this in this lineup with those
two guys going on either side of this, like you're one, two, three,
You're gonna find out about this stuff. And I'm gonna
I'm gonna counter George because we just might see Paul
schemes on a trade deadline move to a number one team.

Speaker 10 (01:17:07):
I think, Yeah, I'm intrigued to see the matchup. I'm
intrigued to watch the game normally is a lot of fun.
Ah yeah, I'm just looking forward to it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
Listen, you always won't want to see the best pitchers
going against the best hitters, especially the first few winnings
of the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
It's always what what what?

Speaker 10 (01:17:39):
You what?

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
The fans tune in the sea. As far as Trent's.

Speaker 6 (01:17:46):
Prediction there that that that that Paul is gonna be
on another team, Pittsburgh would rip the stadium from the
ground if they trade this kid.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Now, I mean, they haven't had anything.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
Fun to talk about in Pittsburgh as far as baseball
is concerned in almost twenty years.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
So, I mean the only other thing is, what was it?

Speaker 6 (01:18:13):
You know, Andrew mccutchins was the last kind of big
story and then now they just brought him back after
you know, he spent almost you know, you know good,
you know, five six years here in Philadelphia, which he
was you know, wildly popular or successful, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
They trade schemes. Now they are going to destroy what
is left of that stadium down there in Pittsburgh, right, So.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Give me her over a box. Do you think there's
a chance we can see them go too?

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Hey, that stadium could be torn down. I mean, like,
I don't know Pittsburgh would even notice.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
You know, like right now, no one's going they don't
have a team to compete. They might just like just
you know, get it out. I mean, you know, listen,
I'm back, you know, lotor City, do you know me,
I'm ready for relegate.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Send Pittsburgh down to the American Association if you have to, Like,
I want to see some teams compete, man, And like
if you're gonna have an off year and call it in,
like no, let's let's let's make Salt Lake a major
league team.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Let's make Louisville, Let's make to Let's make the money.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
The major league team, saying like some of these teams
that have have have baseball organizations have no right to
have them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
They don't deserve to have them.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
We have so much, so much baseball that like in
the in the Midwest, and that that there there are
definite cities I would love to see have baseball teams,
you know, for the longest time, Like you got too
many out there in l A.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
You got too many in New York, Like.

Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
Come on, there's there's definitely you know, Nebraska is a
bit a big baseball Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Yeah, Like yeah, let's throw a let's throw a third
tier on Louisville or Indianapolis or Buffalo or and and
let's throw them in the league. And let's get these
teams out. You don't want to compete, you don't want
to own it. The Oakland Athletics. I don't even have
a town.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
All right now, never mind, we'll save that for another night. Okay,
yeah I do. And I know that's why I'm stopping
you right there, so I don't get you started.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I keep in mind that you and I ain't Candy
are hungover because of weddings over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
So I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Judged up enough energy to pull this one off because
I had to make sure a man skip here gets
what he needs to get in. I got to give
him some good rep so we can do bigger things,
which he's about to do on top of that. But
before we do that step, give me a talk about
the schoopl and he's seen his matchup tomorrow night.

Speaker 7 (01:20:50):
Oh wow, I mean, how about these two guys?

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
Sorry, I let him know what happened talk and all
of a sudden he started sounded like Donald Duck and
everybody cut out.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
So actually happened?

Speaker 7 (01:21:07):
I mean, what what a matchup?

Speaker 9 (01:21:09):
This is?

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
This is what you want to see in baseball, right,
you want to see the two best pitchers going at it.
You know, we'll see about the run support for for
for the poor kids in Pittsburgh. You know, I hate
seeing that. I felt for de Gram at times when
we were doing the same thing to that poor guy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
And in New York.

Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
You know, he's winning twelve games with a one E
r A. But you know what, the this is what
you want to see.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
These are the type baseball games with my background, These
are the ones.

Speaker 7 (01:21:41):
I want to see these every night.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
I want to see low scoring games, I want to
see pitchers dominating, and I want to see a fast game.
So I'm excited about this, and I'm sure every fan
in MLB is excited to watch this one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Yeah, I'm sure there's no question that they are. These
are two guys school. Obviously he's going to come in
big money when he does become eligible, and steenas well.
He's just looking for a one way take it out
of Pittsburgh, have a puncher's chance to win. So I
don't really have any I don't expect anybody in particular
Winter for this thing because you don't know what's what.

(01:22:15):
So we'll leave it at that. I just want I
had to talk about this matchup, all right, Meckie, it's
your segment. I want you to let everybody know in
the audience, let alone your teammates, about what you're doing
to start teaching lessons, and then you're going to be
in Atlanta from the twenty third to the twenty six.
The floor's yours, mister Callawai.

Speaker 5 (01:22:36):
Yeah, so you know what, I've really decided in my
old hometown of Memphis, Tennessee, to start teaching some lessons
to the kids, and I am loving it right. It
is the most gratifying thing I've done in baseball to
this point. And just to be around these young kids

(01:22:56):
that want to learn how to pitch and play the
game the right way has been really special to me
so far, and I've been real busy doing it. And
I love to talk about pitching in the game of baseball.
So I'm very fortunate to be in a situation where
I get to kind of give back to the community
that gave so much to me as a young kid

(01:23:18):
coming up. Memphis, Tennessee has some of the best little
league baseball you're going to ever see. And I also
have just recently found out today that I'm going to
be able to be the head coach of the Mississippi
Futures game that takes place. It's the twenty year nineteen,

(01:23:38):
I mean, the twenty twenty seven graduating class of the
best players in Mississippi, and I get to go coach
them up in the next week or so. And I'm
really excited about getting to do that in Lake Point
there in the Atlanta area. So very fortunate to be
where I'm at and I can be more excited.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
So what I heard you to do there in order
to enhance your credibility, Mickey, is I expect you to
let your students know about the fact that you're on
this show on Monday nights. I definitely will. Yeah, I
realize absolutely, I'm talking about the baby. Yeah, get them
to to hey, this is my coach every Monday night.

(01:24:23):
Look at that stuff. That's right, and also a set
of topics tonight. Well do you see what I have
of my bag at chirts with more sleep? You know,
my maverage the worst on the planet. But no, I'm
glad you're doing it, Mickey, it's all. It's definitely right now. Yeah,
that's okay. She's a trooper. That's how I asked about Candy.

(01:24:44):
She's a trooper in every sense of the word. I
can't be more happier. What the Rolls Royce of women
this girl is in. She is, he does. He's a
master of everything, whether it's the banking industry or not.
She's a member of the media. She gets it figured
out as far as your Mickey, as I told you,
whatever big opportunities do more tag tee brother, he's my

(01:25:07):
pr guy. Now you know that's don't worry about but
Mickey County everybody will be on here on Monday nights
from around eight thirty Eastern time for as long as
the show goes on, and he has a chance to
talk about baseball and all his experience, and they'll promote
his lesson to his kids. So we were so happy
to have him. As you can tell about his valuable
life for teeth on teeth topic. One of those key

(01:25:29):
topics said, oh, this guy is definitely a purpose tip
for what we're doing here on the network. So what
that said is we get ready to wrap this puppy up. Okay, George,
that portal everybody now they get hold.

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
Of you, all right. You can find me on the
South Florida Tribune website and contributing writers. My recent story
was about the Detroit Daggers and they're fabulous first half
of the season. And at the end of my column
there's a link to Amazon which provides uh you to
purchase my book if you're interested, or at least take
a look at the pages for free Detroit sports Broadcasters

(01:26:02):
on the air featuring all kinds of great historical figures
in sports, including yours truly and Scott as well as
in the book a younger version and also don't forget.
You can reach me at g I corn at yahoo
dot com and follow me on LinkedIn. You can follow
me on Twitter at San g Sports ninety nine and
looking forward to more of this great great baseball talk

(01:26:24):
next Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
There you go. All right, you're right, so everybody know
they get told you, But.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
That's very easy just you know, type in my name Facebook,
Instagram should pop right up the ex handles right underneath
my name. Steve Sports Talk one YouTube channel should be
should be fairly easy as well. You can always catch
me here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday we do the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Fan and the end with Ben Troop and the care
package came.

Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
I'm gonna I'm gonna give the fans a little look
at what will Ben send us tomorrow night on Inside
the Pigskin. But also, you know, also do a little
of the of the combat sports interviews with the reel
and the rear, and I got two of them lined
up for you this weekend. One will be a women's
mixed martial artist who will be fighting What Lights Out

(01:27:18):
MMA that's shown Merriman's promotion out there in California. And
I will have another BKFC fighter that will be fighting
on the Philadelphia card here only July twenty fifth. So
we got a lot of fun stuff. Make sure you
guys are locked in. You can literally catch me on
all all the platforms, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
All of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
So just typing my name should be real easy to find.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
That's great, see you. Of course we'll go on hundred
eight very fall Talk tonight here. But Peter and I
do Inside the Pick on Tuesday night as Wow, So
we do a lot of things, and he's a very
big valuable asset. He runs our social media department. So
all right, Trent, obviously we have Nicky get this, three
authors on this broadcast as so you know, we got
myself at George Ricor, and we have this guy Trek Cark. Well,

(01:28:07):
everybody know about your book and then some Trent.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Yeah, you can reach me at Trent at Leadership aty
dot com. I'm a serial entrepreneur. I help a lot
of organizations grow. I am the host of an award
winning podcast called Winners Find a Way check it out
on all the major networks. And of course I am
the author of Leading Winning Teams, which I wrote and
published by Wily Publishing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
So love their work on leadership and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Glad to be included as an author in their two
hundred plus year old publishing house.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
So amazing venture.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
And please check out that book, and not just to
read it, you go study that book because we all
talk about the pain exchange I wrote in the ted
X Talk and it's an amazing ce. A guy like
a Mickey Callaway knows very well the pain exchange and
that pain of discipline it takes.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
To stay there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
So if you're looking for me, you can reach me
at Trent at leadership dot com and you can find
me on all the major works, all the old social
media and either Trent m clark or Leadership check me
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Also, good evening, great show. JD Wyatt very big contributor
here on our network, Mickey. Is not a matter of if,
it's a matter of when before you get mister Wyatt
on here. This guy here is a early big contributor
as well. He was on your augural show last week,
and I'm sure J. D. Wyatt will definitely be on
a lot o this guy words and no, no, we don't.

(01:29:30):
I gotta give it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
I gotta give a shout out to cyber Ruski. I
am back and you're my boy, cyber Rusky.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:29:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
I'll tell you one thing, those guys Josh are doing Cyberski.
You're growing on him because of your credibility and Mickey,
they like you too. Wow, brother, I told you I'm
your pr guy. Don't you all right? Can'ty go ahead? Well, everybody,
you give us our final station break. Great stuff tonight.
I love having different people on this show and that's
what makes it good. But Candy take it away for

(01:29:58):
a final station break.

Speaker 10 (01:30:01):
South Florida Tribune Publishing Company published the book Lessons from
the Microphone and Visionary Leaders. It is written by our
host Scott the Motorist City mad Mouth Morgan Rod. It's
available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Kindo on Apple Books.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Georgia Acorn wrote forward.

Speaker 10 (01:30:23):
It's also a link on the web www dot South
Florida Tribune dot com. Go get your copy today. Old
school media versus new school media. It's a great read
and it also has a couple of pictures in there,
a young Scott, one with a young Muhammad Ali and
one with the young Tommy Lasorda. So go get your

(01:30:45):
copy today. If you like to listen to podcasts, you
can find us wherever you get your podcasts. Monday nights
is Baseball Night, Tuesday nights is Football, Wednesday nights on
Sports Exchange, and Thursday nights on Fire Up. You just
never know what's in store, so tune in to find out.
Scott does a one on one interview show called The
MotorCity Mad Mole Show. Go check out previous episodes of that.

(01:31:09):
Steven does a fan in the end, he does the
Real and the Rare, which also is his one on
one interview. Go check out previous issue episodes of those
as well. They're available on our website, our YouTube channel,
or if you'd like to listen to the podcast version,

(01:31:29):
they're available out wherever you get your podcast. I am
gonna do one shameful plug. It is not on the
South Florida Tribute Publishing YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
But it is on The Chicks podcast.

Speaker 10 (01:31:42):
It is Three Chicks in a Pod and we are
going to be interviewing tomorrow Jackie Carlson from the AC
Women's Conference. So, uh, seven thirty pm on The Chicks
on Three Chicks in a Pod tomorrow night. Tune in
to listen to that interview. Otherwise, Scott, I think I

(01:32:04):
covered all of ours. If I miss something, you can
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Well by way, Jadie, Why just in FYI so everybody
can hear it. Taylor Films will be joining the Country
Club fire Up on Thursday night, so you guys are
gonna have to go out there and figure out amongst
each other, so you'll be all right. So I love
a good ports from there. Let's say with some here,
every mind other pretty four good people there. Meanwhile, we

(01:32:30):
get my skipper here every Monday night. Guys. Awesome, right,
my man, we gotta some good more baseball talk. So
let me ask you if we close out the broadcast
to night Mickey, Okay, how'd you like this format? Talking
about all these types of topics and all that? Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:32:42):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
You know we could sit here and talk about baseball
for the next ten hours, I'm sure all of us
and keep on flowing.

Speaker 7 (01:32:50):
I know we got to end.

Speaker 5 (01:32:51):
We're probably you know, pro had our wits in with uh,
you know, everything that we can talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
But we could keep on going if we had to,
we could fight.

Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
This is this is an amazing show.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
I love it. We could well, we don't want to end.
It's no big the ance, no where. I just figure
we have an I keep them carry over the next week,
like to keep it fresh, keep it real. Have a
lot of interesting faces on here, so you know it's okay.
I love having you on my skipper here. We got
some good stuff because again, once upon a time, need

(01:33:24):
to put up with me over in Fort Saint Lucy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
What's that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
No, you got you got a lot of people are
agreeing with it, and I'm not disagreeing. It doesn't make
any different with me. While who was who want to
address the fact that there was no easy tag, But
now you're one of my panelists on the show. It
couldn't have been that bad, right You're you didn't hesitate
three to come on, did you?

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
Hey, the best journalists are the ones asked the tough questions,
So that's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
There you go, and the bench host on the one
that the best commentators, and I am proud of effect
what we got tossemble here on the network. So meanwhile,
that does it for this edition of one hundred and
eighth such a Baseball Talk Catsi's out, nobody deal Eve
until then, calliway permanent, Trent Clark's permanent. George I Gordon, Well,
we'll see, you know. We we want to make sure
we have load management on George. You know, we don't

(01:34:18):
want to sit here in paryamount, you know, so we've
got to make sure that he's really pumped. We got
some enthusiasm out of his body. Okay, Mickey, we know
he's only young, fifty years old, so he got plenty
of he got plenty of gamboling and that thank tell
me where the heck you get it other than I
get my pro coke and time out and two. That's
about it. But on a final note, though, I do

(01:34:38):
once again provide congratulations to my nephew Brock Morgan Rough
and his lovely bribe Britney Ward Morgan Ruth as well.
Welcome to the family. Great time on Saturday, and I
just wanted to I mentioned at the top of the
show and then on the back of the show. Hope
everybody enjoys y'all Star game tomorrow. We plenty of new
content next Monday night on hundred. Such a baseball time,

(01:34:59):
so thanks to all the participation in the chat room.
Much appreciated. So on behalf of George Icorn, Candy Have Blake,
Stephen Raichael, Trent Clark, and my skipper Nicky Calloy. Thank
you very much for joining us. We'll see you next
Monday night. I have a great baseball week. Everybody fine
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