NY Mets Spiraling South

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hello, everybody. Part two, The Double Hatter, Great Stuff Man,
the MotorCity Man Mountain is in the house. I don't
know color trig I wear, but it does look pretty cool.
Katy didn't have to address me. I just like to
be bizarre and crazy as this show, and I had
to think of rest sleep. That to me is a
very rare thing that I get. So I'll tell you what.
I'm fired up for this show. We had a good

(00:44):
show early on with the Professor of People with Stephen,
Michelle and I and I. We're picking up a momentum
tonight on a hundred and eight stage at Baseball Talk.
Have our regular crew here tonight. I'm proud to have
every last one of them. George hit Gorn, Welcome back
to the Big Show.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Thank you. Good to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Candy is back.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm in front of the camera instead of just behind
the camera.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Thanks Scott, awesome man.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We got catsies in the house.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yes, thanks for thanks, good to be back. Thanks for
having me. Scott.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Hey, Scott with your sweatshirt. I see you're trying to
fit in with the young people.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Trying doesn't mean I might really doing it. I don't
even know. I have no idea I'm trying. I don't know.
I'm probably the worst person to go ahead and dress
because I'll tell you when it comes to me dressing
and everybody asked me to get a tie, I just
put on a clip on Tyby Tunnel with it, or
I don't even wear at all unless I get him
pre tied. But I don't know. I appreciate the I'm
definitely not Chuck Dailey. That's early de Truk reference. You get,

(01:40):
by the way, Oh yeah, the bad boys, Yeah, well
that's okay. He dressed well, and I dressed out so well. Clark,
he's in the house, and I got my manager, Mickey
the rising superstar.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Teishok Golk Club after them, so no, no, tell me
there's not a golfer. I feel bad for mister Kellaway,
you know why, because I have Scott Pells and haven't
gotten the damn residuel on any of them.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Kellway gotten golf of you get the dams leader. Don't worry, Mack.
We'll make each other. We'll make money off of me
with each other because of these stupid ridiculous I'm not sick,
really seriously, really.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Got problems, huh, And you wonder why you have throat problems.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, I know, Yeah, I don't tell me about that
appointment I have tomorrow at eight thirty in the morning
where I have to have a major test on these
vocal courts. That only knows what's gonna happen there is
it's going to be surgery number thirty in my illustrious lifetime.
Probably not, who knows, We hope not. But these vocal
cords are working at least tonight. We're gonna do it.
Can't the press these bad boys to the let it

(02:54):
all right, We'll just started off by doing it this way.
Since starting the season forty five twenty four, New York
Mets have lost twenty of their last thirty games. The
ten to twenty records since June thirteenth is the second
worst in baseball over that time, behind the National nine
and twenty one. And by the way, David Rice number

(03:15):
five was Jersey was retired. Two point question here, we'll
start off with the skep. What are your talks about
what's going on with the mass.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
I kind of look at a baseball season as streaks.
You know, there's very few teams in my experience that
go through the season and they're just staying three or
four games above five hundred every week and just amassing
this huge win total. You know, I kind of look
at our season in twenty seventeen when I was with

(03:44):
the then Indians now Guardians. We won twenty two games
in a row, and I think we finished the season
about twenty two games above five hundred. So I mean
that that. You know, it's just the game is about streaks.
You're gonna have losing streaks, gonna winning streaks, and obviously
they have a good ball club. During those losing streaks,

(04:06):
you know, usually somebody gets hurt, or a few guys
get hurt, or somebody's going through some slumps or a
few guys at a time. That can lead to a
little bit of a prolonged one, like like they're in
right now. You know, ten, ten and twenty is that
that's a rough, rough stretch. You know, we've all been
through it. But you know, they have a good team.
I think they'll bounce back. Historically, it seems since I've

(04:29):
been really paying attention to the Mets, they usually have
a pretty good second half. I think both the years
I was there, we had the best record in the
National League in the second half. So those young players
that I had now mature. They know how to play
baseball down the stretch and hopefully they'll bounce back and
kind of right the ship.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, this is a Mickey Callaway exclusive. Did you have
a chance to manage David Wright.

Speaker 7 (04:54):
That was actually the manager in his last game as
a met We did this whole huge thing for him.
We put him out at third base, Jose Ray is
at short and we took him out about the fifth inning,
so we had it all planned out. And what an
amazing guy he is. Just to have him in the
clubhouse really helps a manager. You know, good good teams

(05:17):
are led by the coaches, and great teams are led
by the players. And that's why they had a great
team when when David Wright was present, because he knows
how to lead a team and lead the players. And
then it was very exciting to be around him for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
First last individual. So if all the players, Nikki, that
you've been around, when you say that David Raight was
one of the best players you've ever worked with.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
You get to see him in his heyday. Obviously, he
had been hurt for a few years by the time
I got there, and we just kind of, you know,
he didn't. I think that's the only game he ever
played with us was that last game we put him
out there. So but I mean I got to coach
against him and see him obviously play, And the one
thing I can speak about is first class individual. What

(06:02):
an amazing guy to have around the clubhouse.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Great stuff, Micky Ashy, I want to give you the
tips on David. Right, all right, go back to Eric.
What youre talked about? What's going on with the Mets.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Well, I mean, obviously, you know, the obvious social media
joke is the Mets are metting. But but to get
but to get to them, get to the serious, get
to the serious point of the of it is. I mean,
I'm sure Mickey can attest this. But it's a very
long season. Baseball is a marathon where you know, where

(06:33):
every every game is different, every series is different. You're
gonna go through the year where man, you you think
you're gonna have that series, you're gonna sweep them right away,
and the opposite ends up happening. It's a long, long season,
and they got some good players on that team. And
that's coming from a Yankee fan, and they you know,
if they're in a they're obviously in a tough division,

(06:53):
especially with a team like the Philadelphia Phillies, which in
recent years they've come out with great teams every year.
You know, it certainly helps when you have Bryce Harper
and numerous other All Stars. But you know, again, I
would be panicking now it's July. You know, the trade
deadline's coming up here where you're where. I'm sure the Mets,
I think currently have the best farm system in Baseball

(07:16):
court at MLB dot com or at least it's up there,
and I'm one hundred percent sure that David Stearns will
go ahead and get some reinforcements in there, and the
Mets are going to be a tough out. I mean,
you know, a lineup, Pete Alonzo is, you know, Peter
Alonso is just you know, he's having a career year.
I mean, he's finally learned some he finally learned some

(07:36):
discipline while at bat instead of being free swinging Willie
like he's gotten the reputation of over the years. And
you know, I think that the Mets will they'll figure
it out. Obviously they need some pitching reinforcement, but you know,
I expect him to be there in October.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
Clarky, Yeah, I'd hit in the panic button. I mean,
it's it's a little early for it, but you know,
you're nine and twenty one. The great news for the
that's is that the second wordst eve in baseball and
you're only half a game out, Like that's crazy. My
concern here is the injuries. Thirty eight pitchers on that

(08:12):
roster to date, and we just wrapped up the All
Star Game, Like that's crazy, Like, we have got to
get healthy, man, And nobody knows this better than Mick,
Like when we go through this, you know, part of
our two thousand and two World championship, Like you got
to keep your stars on the field. You got to
keep the money on the fields. It's what you paid for.

(08:34):
And you get this thing, man, And it just doesn't
look like the injuries are gonna slow here. And every
time they try to get somebody back, another one goes down.
It's it's becoming an epidemic. I don't think they're gonna
solve it because it's really hard to solve mid season.
You've been through a long spring training and now you're
in maintenance mode. This is not recovery mode. Off season

(08:56):
is for recovery and building, and you can't do it
in the middle of the season. So I'm massively concerned
about their health. I think they're in a pretty good
division that it's going to be tough. I think Katsi's
over there sitting with permagrin because the other New York
team can't play well right now, so he's all fired up.
So I'm I'm moderately to severely concerned for the mess

(09:16):
all right. And they're meting. I love that, Chatsy. They're meting,
so like you've got it, you've got to get right.
And the health is.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Wrong, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
So you know what cis interesting question teammate Okay, he said,
do you plan on writing a book? As three of
the six have written one here? That's a fair question.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
I've thought about it from time to time. I'm not
sure there's any people that would be interested in my
story of my career, to be honest, maybe maybe if
this podcast turnout turns out, well, I can write a
book about this podcast or something, but I'll probably just
stay on my farm and uh and live my life

(09:57):
out that way instead of U writing a book.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, I'll tell you what if indeed we think it's
gonna happen. And I know Billy with early onset of
Alzheimer's right now, and I have books, you and I
could do something together to Matt you know, we were worried.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
I would be open to that for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, not only that, just and Siberusy, that's a fair
question too. Down the line, as Mickey and I get
established and the rest of everybody out there, we're probably
gonna Mickey's gonna have his own podcast with me, or
we'll figure out the time and the date to do it.
We're just taking our time doing as we try to
get some other things done. So that's one of the

(10:36):
things that's in the works already. But you know, Mickey
and I've already talked about doing a ton of projects together,
so everything is fair game. Sibruci, that's a pretty interesting question.
That's fair, all right, George. Back to the Mets.

Speaker 9 (10:48):
Yeah, I again, Yeah, I'm singing from the same handle
as you, guys. I mean, as far as the season goes, heck,
there's a lot of baseball still to be played.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But I agree with you that, you know, the injuries
have really hurt them.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
I mean they've got so many guys on the sixty day,
they got guys on the seven or ten, fifteen day,
whatever injury list you look at. It's just lengthy and
that's going to catch up with you at some time.
The point is is that though their division is up
for grabs, that's not great. And who's for Mets fans
because they were expecting maybe a little comfy chase to

(11:25):
the division title this year. But it's not going to happen, obviously,
But the race is still there.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean the Phillies.

Speaker 9 (11:30):
Yeah, it's really going to be an exciting baseball down
the stretch and I think that the Mets are going
to be in the thick of it. But the question
is is can they continue to improve? Can they can
they get any of these guys back, or can they
Like you said earlier, I can't see can they go?
And you think they will be aggressive at the trading deadline.
We'll see what happens there. But that's what they got

(11:51):
to do. But I'm not giving up on them. It's
been a great it's been a great surprise. They're not better.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
So when we talk, we were talking earlier pre production,
all you have to do is get in you don't
have to win the division. You just have to get
into the playoffs. Right now, they would be the second
team in in the wild card in their division. Yes,
the Phillies are ahead of them, they're only behind by
half a game. But the next team is nine and

(12:23):
a half games back, and that's the Miami Marlins. So
let's face it, you know, if they can catch the Phillies,
I mean half game back, that's that's neck and neck.
I'm sure they play each other how many times. But
with that also being said, they also have a little
pressure on them because they are the New York Mets,

(12:44):
because they have such a big payroll, they're in such
a big market like that, they're expected to do well
as well. So there's a little added pressure that they
sometimes have to try and forget as players, because I
think if you play with that pressure, sure you're forcing
and then you're not necessarily hitting is flute free throwing,

(13:05):
and your pitching isn't as good and you're more app
maybe injuries as well. It'll be interesting down the stretch
to see how the National League plays out. Let's put
it that way.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, here's what We've got a couple of dynamics. Number one.
We know they have want Soto take them a little
while to get acclimated or playing the other side of
New York. But the biggest thing is, if you're going
to have a slum it's play, now is the time
to do it. That way, you can identify what you
need at the trade deadline, who you're going to give
up and who not. You better have it now because

(13:40):
by the time the end of the month rolls around,
you don't know who's coming and who's going. So I've
always thought the message to me, I feel they could
go deep into the postseason. We'll see what happens. And again,
Cassie said David Stearns work with Brewers had to be resourceful.
There got a lot more money or coin with the

(14:00):
and of course then you have did colon check book.
It's another story. So and that was if you're going
to strug struggle a little bit, and now's the time
to do it. Then we identify what your needs a
lot of topics to get to And I know this
was going to be a I knew this thing on that.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
Yeah, I think you made an excellent point. Sometimes this
is a blessing in disguise for teams because if you're
just kind of cruising along and you're really not going
to add as a good of pieces at the trade deadline.
I remember when sixteen we went and got Andrew Miller,
and I mean, you know, getting him and the trade
deadline is everything, and we really needed him. Even though
we were having a good season, we kind of stumbled

(14:36):
a little bit and we were like, oh man, we
need somebody. I remember Tito really getting on the front office,
Hey we really need a good reliever. We went and
got Andrew Miller and it got us to a World Series.
So sometimes this is a blessing in disguise, you know,
I'm sure that it's it's a tough sell for the
front office to go to the owner and say, hey,
we need some more players. We just signed a seven

(14:59):
hundred million you need more players. So this little bit
of struggle stretch for the Mets might be a blessing
in disguise. Form down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Excellent point. Skip anytime you want to interject and you
come up to the point, don't hesitate to let me know.
And that was a dynamite one. I like Joshua Doer.
Eric cass is a young callaway. Sure, I don't know
if I know what that means, but it's it's harmless,
so we'll put it up there. So here's a question
for Cassie. Do you plan on writing a book? I
don't know that's a good one. Sam Rusky's in the

(15:28):
book business tonight. What do you think, Derek, You'll have
plenty of talk about you're a great writer.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Well, you know it's uh, well, we still got a
We've still got a lot of years to go before
we start thinking about starting, before we think about starting
starting book clubs.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
You've got potential to it. All right, let's keep it moving.
We'll keep it moving. The MLB All Star Game in
Atlanta dow shown point two million, the most watched in sports. Now.
I'm sure the swing off added to that numbers. I've
got it. We have to talk about the swing off? Skip,
What are your talks about. I didn't even see it.
I would can hunter inside the pixel in that night,

(16:02):
and bear in mind, I was fop fresh off the plane,
so I didn't have I didn't make it to the
end of the olt or a game or even see
it because I was worn out doing the show and
kind of catch up with the rest. But first of
all Skip. Two part question. Okay, One, what were your
thoughts about the All Star Game? Obviously at Drew Will,
MLBS generally does do pretty well because they know it's
a Midsummer Classic, and I need your I'd like to

(16:25):
have your opinion on the swing off.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Skip first and foremost. Obviously, this is a business, right,
everybody's trying to make money, you know, so the more
viewership you have, the better you know, every organization is,
then they can therefore put out a better product on
the field for the fans, which we talked about last week.

(16:48):
That's why we are here talking. That's why the players
play the game. So, you know, from a business standpoint, obviously,
a success, like you mentioned, the most watched event in sports.
That's amazing. I kind of like that. I kind of
like the swing off. You know, if you if you
if you're gonna risk hurting some pictures and trying to

(17:09):
stretch them out just to play some extra innings. I
kind of like that little swing off at the end.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
Obviously, the fans really really really enjoyed it. I thought it,
you know when I looked online that a lot of
the fans enjoyed it. So I'm really for whatever the
fans love, and it seemed to work out pretty good.
Like we mentioned, the viewership was there, and so it
was a successful All Star game. The only the only
concern I have is, you know, making it mean something

(17:37):
when it means something, you know, as far as home
field advantage and stuff, home field advantage and stuff like that.
That where that's where it can be a little bit
of an issue. And then obviously, you know, the big guys,
they're gonna go home when they come out of the game.
That's just how it's always been. They have flights, they're
private jets leaving it, you know after the fifth inning
because they played four innings whatever, that's just how it goes.

(17:58):
And then you know, you miss out on some of
the bigger names in that swing off at the end.
So we need to do a little work on those
two things. But otherwise I thought it was a great success.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Cyberuski and Josha Door. Just a little information for you,
my friends, I would encourage you to look at the
professor and the people toward the end of that show
because there's some good incentives for you guys with your
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them in there, so please revisit and rewatch those episodes
so I know you guys will be very delighted with that. Okay,
I'm not talking any more food tonight. We already did

(18:30):
that earlier. Tacos were great. We did what we had
to do. I know they want to know what you
had for dinner, Katsie, who knows it doesn't matter. You
choose to answer it when I call on you, which
is now you can do so I'll I'll on you first, Catsie,
then over Trent. About the Elsewhere game.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
I like the swing off. Granted, you know, I really
wish that they could have used kind of like the stars,
like Judge, Otani Otana, you name it. And yeah, I
think that I think that would have been just that
would have made it a little better.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
But I get why they didn't.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Because obviously, you know, these guys are trying to kind
of get kind of get back as back home as
soon as they can and then kind of gear up
for the second half of the season.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
But overall, I liked it.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
It takes away, you know, I don't think it takes
away but lessens the risk of injury because there would
be nothing worse than losing a guy in an All
Star game. I know we had a scary situation with
Johenio Schwarez there when he got hit in the hand,
which is never a good thing, But I personally I
like it.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
It's entertaining.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
I mean, you know, nothing was more entertaining than seeing
Kyle schwarb Er homer off one knee. I mean, it
doesn't get much better than that. But I hope that
they can use more stars like the judges and the
Otani's next time around, and you know, maybe they just
get home a little later on whatever private jet service
they feel like using that night.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
What about the rantings though, Eric, they were pretty impressive.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Absolutely, Baseball will always have the best All Star Game
out of all the all the major sports. I mean,
you can go ahead and say football is king in
this cunt, which which it is for all tents and purposes.
But I'm telling you Baseball will always have the best
All Star Game because not because it's just full of
excitement from home run derbys to the actual game.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
It just nothing better.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
We've got some good stuff in the chat room, Eddie Prailer.
Was nice to see some of the bench All Stars
have a chance to shine. Excellent point there. All right,
So Ruscott really like this question because this is really
a credit to Eric. How do you know all this stuff?
This kiss? Let me tell you something, I've never seen
a youngster who's only thirty years old knows so much
about baseball than Eric. If there's ever a natural for

(20:34):
this show, it's definitely him. And don't worry skipping your
as time goes on and it gets you know, you've
got a real big stunt for your young teammate here,
know they do. So that's unbelievable. So NFL on NBA
All Star games are terrible, there's no question about that. Eddie. Well,
the NFL really doesn't have when all they have the
skills competition MBAs awful. But else can I say, right,

(20:56):
we'll go over to Clarke, you go ahead.

Speaker 8 (20:59):
Yeah, I think the swing off was great. I mean
it kind of reminds me of the overtime shootout for
the NHL, right which I will put the NHL three
on three All Star Game kind of fun. It's it's
pretty entertaining to watch that much skal So that's a
good time. I don't think they've caught MLB yet for
all of it yet, but they're figuring it out. It's
getting entertaining. Yeah, and I think the kros Swarter one

(21:21):
leg remind me of the obi Ovet skin one timer
on the drop to the knee man like h So
you know, Schwarber, of course, who's a guy who's been
in these situations a lot. You know, you saw some
of the young kids in this thing, and you know,
they look like a deer in the headlights. They were
like me and the home runner hold on. So Schwarber
didn't look too nervous about it all and just went

(21:42):
out and smacked three. Do what he does and pretty impressive,
you know, good little You know, he's done at every level,
high school, I U big ten guy. I mean, Schwerver's
he's competed. He's played in World Series, He's been in
big moments a number of times. So he seed just
look like he belonged there as usual. And so it's

(22:03):
great to see it is it is kind of tough.
It is gonna be continue to be that challenge of
guys are gonna leave, you know, like guys are gonna
be done with their time and that's there. They're out
of the game. They're kind of out, you know, that
bench gets a little light and uh, and you can't
afford the arms, so you're not going to e shra anying.
So that was a great, great solution. We're done, great,
go back.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, what are your thoughts about the attendants? Trent the
what the attendants?

Speaker 8 (22:31):
Yeah, I was I was surprised. I was surprised to
read that, you know, and I think my surprise is that,
you know, businey people like me, I don't watch full
games anymore. I go back and watch, you know, the
twelve minute YouTube wrap up, right, Like, I don't get
a lot of chance to sit down for three hours
and watch something. So it was pleasant to see those

(22:53):
kind of numbers. And it tells me baseball is not dead.
I mean, they're not not quite coming to the stadium
just yet, but it's great to see that they're into
the game and they're into the TV.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Let me go to Joshua Door. I don't mind bringing
on Hockey Night because tonight there's a few parallels to
what we're talking about. Number one, Joshua Door, You're really right.
I'm not really a fan of the altar game, but
to the NHL's credit, they're not afraid to try different
things out like the four nation states out and the
fact that they've had all these international tournaments, and also
you have to shootout compared to the swing off. So

(23:24):
Nasha Door I very night. You brought up Hoka in
this show. There's some aspects that are really relevant. Also,
Candy put that picture up of Joel Goldberg and I please,
and I'll tell you why. I'm gonna mention that we
might have a clip. This guy here is a Kansas
City Royal broadcaster and we talked about the swing out thing,
and you know what he said, just like you skip, okay,

(23:45):
that he feels it's pretty good. He doesn't mind it,
but they do have to tweak it a little bit.
And maybe I'll put those comments on next week. Obviously
they didn't have enough time to do it today. But
Joel had a lot of great things that we had
on that interview. We'll incorporate them later, all right, Candy,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
So as far as the swing off, I think it
was good because I'll be honest with you, I was
the only Altar game that ended in a tie, and
it kind of felt weird to like, go home here.
You went to a baseball game and you end in
a tie like that, just it felt weird, and so
having some sort of way to end it without trying

(24:22):
to extend. Obviously, in the game that I saw when
I was there in Milwaukee, they ran out of pictures,
completely ran out of pictures. So who are you gonna
put You're gonna throw a position player out there to
play in this exhibition? No, you're not so doing it
this way. I thought it was a very good idea
as far as viewership, Scott, what else is happening this

(24:44):
time of year? I mean, I hate to say it
like MLB hasn't made because when they do their All
Star Game, there really isn't a lot going on. You're
not watching the Summer League for NBA. A lot of
people like WNBA, yes, is going on, but football not
going on. NHL is not going on. None of those
other things are going on. Whereas they're All Star games

(25:06):
for them, our respective other sports are still being played.
So MLB's got it right. And MLB has been doing
it the same way for how long. It's a game.
They haven't had to tweak it and change it. You know,
football players they wanted it change because they obviously there's
a chance that they could get hurt more in a

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physical game and so and then hockey changed it now
for four nations and tried that and that was a
good format, something different. But MLB's kept it consistent, and
I think that's part of why it's got, you know,
kept its viewership like it has. I mean, the home
Run Derby Monday Night averaged five point seven to three million,

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which was a five percent increase over last year. And
I think they market it and promote it like that,
and we all know home Run Derby and then the
All Star Game and because they've kept it consistent and
you know that and you come to expect.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
It excellent points all the way around.

Speaker 9 (26:06):
Candy George, Well, the only thing is that you know,
maybe they're doing a little bit take that ESPN because
as we know, their MLB is in the middle of
contract negotiations with some of the network. So all I'm
saying is that they've got that in their back pocket. Now, hey,
take a look at how much we drew for the

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All Star Game and take a look at their ratings here,
like you said, for the home Run Jerby, And the
other thing was going back to the nostalgia with letting
those players I know this is a minor thing with
some people letting them wear their own jerseys.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Again, I was all in favor of that. I'm glad
they did that.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
The fans can identify more with those players on the
field with those jerseys, with those teams, with those logos.
So that was a smart move by MLB to do that.
But the ratings, oh yeah, they were really good. And
you're right though there isn't much competition going on at
that hour. As far as the swing off goes brilliant,
I like that. It was put into place a few

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years ago but never had to be used, and now
it looks.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Like a brilliant move. But there's still some tweaks sauce. Yes, sir,
mister Trent.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
Well, I'll say one thing. Next year will be the tell,
because can't you make such a great point that you
do not have a competitor in the TV market at
this time. Next year you will have the World Cup
on US soil during the All Star Game, and we'll
just see where these numbers shake out, because I'll bet
they're half.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's a good point. Okay, All right, there we go.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
I was gonna say that next year is gonna be
in Philadelphia, and it's also the I think the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the signing of the Declaration
of Independence. So baseball is going to have that go
against the World Cup. So but the TV ratings, I'm
kind of curious to see though, because it's gonna it's
it's gonna be a heck for sports fans. It's gonna
be great because it's you're gonna have some good problems

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to have when you come home from work.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, okay, Howard, we go great. Only going on is
hot dogging. That's true, had Joey Chestnut. You knowlwa's getting
paid for those hot dogging one hundred and forty one
dollars a hot Oh.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, we turned we turned out.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
My mom despises that we turn it on, just just
just for just to get her reaction.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
That has a great FOO reference. Let's keep it rolling.
Rachel Robinson turned one hundred and three on Saturday. Unbelievable stuff,
isn't it. George?

Speaker 9 (28:36):
Yes, I am so glad that she is alive and well.
And I you know, to me, it's a parallel to
missus King. You know, Coreta Scott King lost her dear
husband and a civil rights icon at that terrible sassination.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
But but Missus.

Speaker 9 (28:51):
King Corretta, she stayed involved, and Jackie Robinson stays involved
in baseball.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Her and her family.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
The salutes that they've had for her husband over the
years have just been top notch when baseball has them.
All I'm saying is good for rape, good for her.
Missus Robinson, You're doing great, and keep up that enthusiasm,
keep up your health, and you're great to have as
far as as a pioneer and icon along with your

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late husband.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I'm candy.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
She's a registered nurse, so she's got some of that
health knowledge about her. But she's also, you know, the
head of the Jackie Robinson Foundation, which is a national
nonprofit which gives scholarships to minority use for higher education.
So and that preserves the memory of Jackie Robinson. And
I think sometimes that helps propel you. I mean to

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see young you know, to give young use the opportunity
that maybe they wouldn't have gotten. I think that helps
her too, you know, Parky.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
I mean, first of all, I would love to sit
down and talk with this woman like the this is
just she's just been in the front seat of humanity
and you know, we look at this now and just
think how stupid, like idiotic people were at that time,
and then they had to live through this, live through
this thing again. And the grace that her and her

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husband showed through all that, the patience, the tolerance of
all the crap. And you know that's not all told
in all the stories. There's probably ten x what's told
in the stories. And you know, I would love to
talk to her about those challenges back in that day.
But what a beacon of light that she's been for

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the community, for just a humanitarian effort. I think it's
just gone such a long way. And of course, you know,
being tribe guys as Mickey and I are, we get
a lot of Larry Dobe because he was the first
African American in Cleveland on the American League side, and
Larry's a great guy. Got the chance to meet Larry
a number of times where he passed, and he was
around the ballpark a lot in the nineties, so super great.

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And you know, we always talk about these great champions,
you know, who go on a Mickey callaway who's a
big league player, But you know you often have like
spouses and people behind that, and that's not an easy gig.
It's not an easy gig for people in the spotlight.
It's not an easy gig for leaders. It's a challenging
and you get the association and all the pushback of it,

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and it directly affects your family. There's no other way
around it. It will eat at you. And just to
be in that relationship is a big deal. And so
just a hats off to missus Robinson and hundred and
three years young man, Like, keep going, you'll see one ten.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
What do you think, skipt Range.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean, obviously her and Jackie's name will never die, right,
Baseball is always going to keep it going. It is
so good to see that she's still alive and well.
Like George said, and I agree with Andy and Trent.
You know, the reason we're here on this planet is
a tough one to answer, and I think it's about purpose.
And if you have a great purpose, you have something

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to live for and you're going to live a longer life.
And I think she's really found that purpose in life
and that's why she's still plugging along. And she looks,
you know, she looks amazing and stays young and that
and I think it's because she is making impact on
so many lives and will forever even when she's gone.

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But I think that's the key to longevity, is having
a real purpose and impacting people in a positive light.
And she's definitely done that, Katsey.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
I mean, for what her and obviously Jackie had to endure,
I don't think many human beings have the spine to
deal with all that, both everywhere and anywhere at that
point in time in America. But the fact that she's
still involved, and you know, she's done a lot over
the years, especially with you know, with she I think
she taught nursing at one point, and I know she

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gave a lot of money I believe to UCLA, where
she where her and Jackie went where they.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Went to school.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Right, But the fact that she's still out there and
involved and still moving around at one hundred and three
is pretty good. If I mean that, if you have
life's goals, that that would be a good one to have,
which is to still be able going to the ballpark
at one hundred and three years old, which hopefully, hopefully
I'll be able to do. But it's it's just it's
just a great thing to see that she is still active,

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still still a part of the community, the baseball community
and also other communities as a whole, and show that
you know that she is still making an impact. If
there's anybody who if there's anybody who I wish I
could meet, it would be her, because that's as close
to history as you're going to get right there.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
And I don't question about think Jackie's the only number
of retired University of Yeah, major League Baseball forty two.
There'll be other people's thinking Clemens twenty one. Should I'm
not going to address that tonight anyways, But the fact
that she's moving along as well as she is as unbelievable.
All right, let's say with the Dodger thing, this one
really intrigues me. The will continue on. Clinton Kershaw was

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named to the NL All Star Team as a Lengen
pick in recognition that was the illustrious screer. I actually
like the get desk. Here are his numbers in that game.
He went two thirds of an inning and truck out one.
What zero's across the board. I'm really happy for Clayton
that had got this All Star or not. What do
you think, skip.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
A totally I mean, obviously first ballot Hall of Famer
in my opinion. And you know, anytime you could get
guys like that on the field with the young and
upcoming All Stars and things, I think it's it's great, right.
So a lot of those guys will never get to
play with Clayton Kershaw unless they're with him on that

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All Star team. So I'm all in favor of getting
all these guys that are going to be shoeing Hall
of Famers. Let's get him at the All Star Game
every year, whether they play or not. Let's get him
around the young players, the young best players in our league,
so they can learn a little bit something from him.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
So I loved it excellently, Clerky.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
Yeah, I think that's the big takeaway, right, the veteran players,
they it's the wisdom, right, It's the wisdom of the league.
And so man for the young man. You know, the
young Milwaukee brewer, he go gets named to an All
Star Game after five games, you know he's gonna sit
in the club off with Clayton Kershaw. Man, Like, this
guy has been at the binnacle of it all. Cy

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Young's game sevens, I mean, you name it, he's been there.
So that's just a great experience for anyone.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
So I do like that pick.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
I thought it was a great movie, and I'd like
to see his success in the game too, Like throws
a clean line up there, like perfect. That's a great
way to end it. And you know, the guys, the
guy's going out just class act all the way too.
And you know he's he's stumbling a little bit now,
Like you know, he's not the power guy that he
was a decade ago, and yet still is crafty. He

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still gets people out, knows what he's doing, knows how
to pitch, and I and that's one of those things
that these young kids could really learn from, that wisdom
of guys. In guys in the nineties to two thousands,
of the ten you had to pitch. Now everyone's going
for this power arm.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Is that enough?

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Like I doubt it's gonna be enough. Hitters are always
going to be ahead of power, Like you got to
learn how to pitch. And so Clayton Kershaw's gonna be
a great example on that. He'll he'll probably be a
great pitching coach if you ever wants it. But with
the money he's made, he probably doesn't need to, can't see.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
I mean, I remember Clayton Kershaw when he was when
he was just twenty one years old, you know, when
he was first coming up. He you know that that's
the definition of a horse. I mean, you know, he's
a guy that you could depend on. At one point
he was the best pitcher in baseball kind of almost
probably to the same degree that Trek Skoogle is now

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you know this, and he could do it all power
the guy had. The guy had such a wide ranging
arsenal where he had no idea what to expect. I'm
sure Mickey can attest that it wasn't fun facing him night.
It wasn't fun facing him in a series, whether it
be at Dodger Stadium or City Field.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
But you know, you know that's a hall. That's a
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I mean, you know he's you know he is like
he truly is a picture, you know. I mean, now,
we got a bunch of guys, now who are throwers.
I know, Jacob Mazerowski, I think he's I think he's
more of a thrower. But Clayton Kershaw, that guy, that
guy was dedicated to the craft. He could he could
adjust the eddie hitter. I mean, it was you know,
it doesn't matter who you are facing him.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
He was hard to hit.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
I mean, he obviously has a he obviously has a
perfect game to his names and obviously I'm happy that
you know he you know, he's got he's got his
he's got his World Series rings, and there is no
doubt he is going to be in the Hall of
Famer when when he is eligible.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
First bout.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
In my book, Kay Candy.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Let's face it, Clayton Kershaw is almost a household name.
Whether you are a face, well I heard a fan
or not a fan, You've already you've heard his name.
So you talk about viewership is up an MLB. That's
part of it. Bringing in those household names and saying

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they're going to be playing on that helps bring in
viewership as well. It was he deserving, of course, he
is is the first ballot Hall of Fame, of course,
and for all the players that don't play on his team,
all the knowledge that they could gain from just being

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in the clubhouse with them, talking to him, finding out
you know, he's been through seasons where he goes through
his slump and where he gets out of it, so
he can be talking about that to guys. The knowledge
that the young. The one thing I will say is
from being around the baseball game, there are a lot
of guys, young guys that don't know a lot about

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the history. And that's one thing I think that I
would be a takeaway that I would love to be
in the dugouts talking to some of these players at
an All Star Game and finding out, you know, how
they've been in the game for as long as they have, well,
how their success the longevity that they've had, especially like

(39:15):
a Clayton Kershaw, Does he have the same stuff that
he had before? No, But then what do you do?
You learn more finesse, you learn different things to keep
yourself in the game, and that's what he's done as
a young player, like a young pitcher. I would love
to be picking his brain and being at the All

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Star Game. I think it was a great move to
have him there. He's a fan favorite, you know, and
that was what the That's what the All Star part
of the All Star Game is who are the fan favorites?
Who do the fans want to see? You know, That's
why they do fan balloting and bringing in these guys.
So I thought it was cool. It was good.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
George George, Yeah, I think it is a good thing
to do too. They've got that rule that the commissioner
can do that.

Speaker 9 (40:03):
He did it with Elbert Coolhols, he did it with
Migul Gabrera, and now he did it with Clayton Kershaw.
I was fortunate enough to be at the press conference
in twenty twelve when the Tigers played the San Francisco
Giants and Clayton was awarded.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
A big award.

Speaker 9 (40:19):
I'm sorry MLB, and he was just he's just professional
and you guys know that those are othern around baseball.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
What a great guy.

Speaker 9 (40:28):
He's very humble and the recognition that was put on
him back at twenty twelve, you.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Know, and it's not just awards.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
I mean, come on, we all know he's got so
much hard where he's going to have so many awards
on his trophy case and does some already, but he's just.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
There to soak it all in.

Speaker 9 (40:46):
Like you said, Candy, they should be the sponges, the
younger players, the younger pitchers that had that opportunity to
be him, that dugout with him, and not only that,
but on the other side too as well, the America
like but yeah, it was a great honor for him.
Good see him playing that game and uh, have a
great time there because he certainly deserves it.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Wow, we should say congratulations to him for reaching three
thousand strikeouts too, right before.

Speaker 9 (41:13):
Yes, good point, Candy.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah. Bottom line is I'm happy they did it. And Georgia,
I'll like your references of Albert Poolhols as well as
the Gel Cabrera, I mean has opportunity and certain one
of those guys in there and go and behold, he
got it right, the biggest footnote of the whole thing
as he goes two thirds of an inning, gets a
strikeout and has a clean inning. We're going to talk
about another guy later in the show who's at a

(41:38):
cleaning and they'll go on our topic. They will go
to a station break. And since Cassie talked about Terry Schooble,
he's the first ABS, the first AVS challenges cessin the
Elsewhere game came through Terret's school. Terre Google had a
great game last night on Sunday Night Baseball. We're not
going to get into that game tonight, but Terror Schoole,
we certainly know, is going to be a wealthy man
in about a couple of years. Anyway. But Eric, we'll

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start with you on this one. Okay, we here talks
about him making the first challenge, the ABS challenge in
this game. Do you think it was fitting?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (42:10):
I mean, there's no one more dominant in baseball right
now than than Trek Scugall. Who you know, you go
face him, it's gonna be it's gonna be a very
very long day in the batter's box, you know, you know,
there is like there's no one more filthy or in
baseball right now. Actually, when he threw that complete game
against the Indians, he was just toying with them the
entire time. Where he actually when he after he after

(42:32):
he finished the game with one hundred and three mile
an hour fastball, he just kind of he just kind
of essentially gave him the shrug, like, but I I
can't think of another guy more fitting for him to
do it. I mean, I mean, the guy's the guy's
mastered the strike zone, the guy will the guy can
get you out in a zillion different ways. And you know,
I think I think the ABS gives him more of

(42:53):
an unfair advantage more than he already has.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
You think skip.

Speaker 7 (43:00):
Lad that it was him obviously for all the reasons
that Eric said, and I really like this. I hope
we get this implemented in our game.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
You know, I think that we.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Spend so much time over there in the dugout. You
know almost everybody, oh, where's that pitch? And you really
can't ever tell from over there, right, You don't know
if it's just off or just in. But the person
that knows is that picture on the mound more than anybody,
because when you throw a strike, you know if it's
a strike or not. And I love the fact that
at some point they're going to be able to go, hey,

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let's check that, because I know I threw that where
I wanted it to and I know my catcher was
set up on the plate. So I love this idea.
I hope it gets implemented in full time in the
big leagues at some point. And it was great that
we had the best picture on the planet that got
to take advantage of it first, all right, Glarky.

Speaker 8 (43:52):
Yeah, I love it too. I think that's exactly right.
I think like any picture feels it's a strike. And
I think the also thing that we we always look
at is from coaches, we're setting up hitters, right, So
we're calling, like, hey, Mickey, bring this in. Change his
eye level. They're going up. That also changes the umpire's
eye level. And then all of a sudden, the catcher
misreads a play and he doesn't frame as well, or

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he doesn't get to the spot he really wants to.
But the balls actually a strike, and the umpires reading
the catcher's body language, he's doing a lot of things
that aren't exactly the zone. So I think it's gonna
be a big deal for pitchers. It's gonna make it
a lot more real for hitters. The thing I like
about the hitters is like, you really are gonna have

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to learn to master the zone when this thing comes in.
You are going to have to learn to hit out
of the nine zones, and if you cannot, you will
not be in the league. And that's how it should be.
Man Like dough the job, and like if you can't
hit out one of the eight, the best pitchers are
gonna figure that out, and they're gonna find that zone
and they're gonna pick on you, and you're gonna hit

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balls up in the infield and you're gonna roll over
balls until you figure it out. And what will happen.
It is is, uh, you only got so long because
you can always figure it out and triple a man
like you only have so much time at that level
to figure it out. So it is going to challenge hitters,
and it's going to be different the way you coach hitters,
and they're gonna have to be more disciplined, because I agree,

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and part of this is crossover to tennis. Like you know,
when you hit a shot and it's going to hit
the line. Pitchers know when they hit this is a
backdoor slider that's going to catch the outside edge and
they feel it, they feel it out of their hand,
and I'm telling you umpires miss it all the time.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Great boys.

Speaker 9 (45:35):
Clark George, Well, I think, yeah, it was a good
start and it was no surprise to me that he
was the first one to take advantage of the ABS system.
The thing is is that you know they're going to
have very limited at least what I understand. You can't
do this after every pitch. Of course, you got to
be selective, but you know, take the baby steps first.

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They already tried it in spring training, they tried it
in the minor leagues. I wasn't a huge fan of
rolling out a special event like the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
But now I look back on it and I.

Speaker 9 (46:07):
Say, yeah, that was okay, not because of school ball
and because I'm in Detroit, It's just because it does
add a little bit.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Of clarity to the games.

Speaker 9 (46:16):
And you know, just like that, we want the best
players on the field, we want the best umpires too.
I mean, there there's the days gone where the guys
just sit there and you got you guys who I'm
talking about, Guys like Joe West or guys like you know,
Joe Brinkman or whatever. The year after year after year,
they're still there. They can contact her nude. But the scrutiny, now,
you know, we want the sharpest officials, We want the

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sharpest umpires.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
So I mean, and that isn't it.

Speaker 9 (46:41):
That is something that's gonna fine tune of that particular
role too in baseball as well as you guys.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Well, here's the thing. Number one, you experimental and Candy,
you're gonna have the last word on this. I want
to get these things in. I'm not gonna take away
from your thunder, I promise can't. But you've got the
United Football League as a way to utilize as a
test case for particular potential rule changes, right for the NFL. Finally,

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back then you have the World League of American Football
as well, but mostly the UFL. So now you have
basically the same dynamics happening here. You have the minor
leagues being a test case for the major leagues.

Speaker 7 (47:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Well, yeah, School wasn't natural to do it, and I'm
not surprised he did it. But as long as you
have a test case scenario with the minor leagues leading
to the major leagues, Candy take it from there. That's
my point.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
So I have a question for you, Scott, because I'm
going to throw it back to a catcher.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Okay, change you and how you.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Frame pitches, because let's face it, catchers bring that mid
up and frame the pitchers and pitches to make it
look like it was a strike even when it wasn't
a strike. So how do you feel as a catcher
with that?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Honestly, I don't have a problem with it, Mickey, And
I'll tell you why I don't have a problem with it.
I'm I'm still going to frame pitches no matter what
because that part of the catcher's responsibility, right Mack, that's right.

Speaker 7 (48:05):
You know, I think we can get a little in
depth here about this. So if you know, obviously we
all watch baseball, we know that the umpire sets up
on the inside corner of the catcher, right, So they
do a pretty good job on average of calling strikes
and balls on the inside part of the plate. Where

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they're really kind of making errors is on the outside
part of the plate because they're having to try and
look over the catcher's shoulder and head to call a
good pitch. So catchers are really able to kind of
trick them, especially especially on that outside corner. I think
it's like thirteen percent. You get thirteen percent more strikes

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on the outside corner than you do on the inside
corner because they're not as liberal on the inside corner
because that's where they set up. So as a pitching coach,
we really tried to take advantage of that, right, So
you know, we really dug in depth, okay, where we
get a report before the game on the tendencies of
the umpires that day, right, so we know how we

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want to attack and where we can try to attack
most of the time. So this is a huge thing.
You know, what's gonna end up happening is these hitting
coaches and the front offices, they're going to be trying
to figure out how and like Trent said, how can
we help our hitters learn the strike zone better? So

(49:31):
I'm not I'm not so sure it's not gonna end
up helping the hitters in the long run because they're
gonna have to sit there and learn what the strike
zone is a little bit better and in return, because
that one pitch could be could mean a game. So
they're gonna put a lot of money into researching on
how we can better train our eyes to track balls

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that are going to be in the strike zone or not.
And they're gonna work on it a lot because it's
going to mean a game at some point in One
game in the Major League is worth a lot of
money to an organization. Right One win is amazing. You're
talking about wins above replacement. One win is huge. So
this could add a whole new dynamic to the way
we train, to the way the pitchers, you know, try

(50:16):
to attack hitters. And it especially what I'm gonna love
is I want to see our catchers go back, get
my wide stance. Let's block some balls for these pitchers
instead of being on one knee and trying to just
kick balls all the time, and we have pass balls.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I see it.

Speaker 7 (50:34):
I see it all the time in these in these
little league games that I get to go to now,
and I tell the catchers look set up traditionally that
one knee is going to be out the door in
a few years because there's going to be striking zones.
It's not framing is not going to matter as much.
But Scott, like you said, your job as a catcher
is to frame the ball. Because the first thing I

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think as a pitcher is if if he's making my
pitches look good, he's kind of tricking me too, And
I think I'm a little bit better than I am.
Right if I'm throwing at three four inches over here
and he's kind of you gingerly pulling it back in
the strike zone, I have more confidence because I think
I threw a good fit even though it wasn't that good.

(51:16):
So you still want a good frame and catcher back
there to help the confidence of the picture.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
The excellent point hold on Candy, He brings up an
excellent point. I was joking around with my younger brother
at a local restaurant, and he talks about pictures and catchers,
you know, And I said, bro, what you need to
understand is my job to make guys like you look good.
Never even thought about it that way. But I'll take
a beaty behind the plate. I'll take all the black

(51:43):
and blue marks. I'll take all those protections that you have,
alttle the waysier to protect it from getting dinged in
the wrong place. Is my job to make you look good.
So if you're wild, it's up to me to make
you look on wild. And once I came back with
that rebuttal, that was the end of that conversation because
he didn't have a leg to stand out, but he
ate he was go ahead, Clarky.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
It's gonna change the exchange rate. I'm really glad Candy
brought this up because it's gonna exchange. It's gonna change
the exchange rate for the catchers. They're gonna be moving
that that catcher balls to the hand quicker, that means
throws down the second go from one to nine to one,
seven to one six. It's gonna make it much tougher
on a runner. To move up, you've got to be

(52:26):
a really good runner. You're gonna have to steal. And
you know, Mickey knows this. Most most guys in the
Major League still off pitchers. They'll still off catchers. They're
looking for balls. They're gonna throw soft accounts like hey,
at you know, he's behind the count, or he's a
little ahead, he's one two, he's probably gonna go something
soft in away. I'm running on that pitch, anticipating soft

(52:47):
because it's an exchange rate, and he's still trying to
frame that change up on the lower lower, low and down,
and that's a tough ball to pick frame and get
back and throw me out right. So it's going to
change that because they don't care about the frame anymore.
They can move their whole body over and get shifting
and go and it's it's gonna change things. It's gonna

(53:08):
be fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah, but skip makes the next one point. Okay, all right,
framing Mami doesn't become as emphasized anymore. So I'm gonna
go back to my manager here, and that's this. Okay,
let's focus on getting the pass balls and the wild
pitches down there. Some of the wild pitchers you can't
do a darn thing about anyway, because they're wild. They're wild,
But how about eliminating some of those pass balls and
potential wild pigeon. You're gonna have to focus your energy

(53:30):
on others stuff and maybe throwing a base runner out
or two here and there the candy. It's a great point.
But to answer your question, I'm still gonna go out
there try to frame bitches as long as I can
until I'm no longer able to do it. And that's
all there is to it, because that's part of the
responsibility of being behind the plate. It's your responsibility behind
the plate and my picturing to see making cowboys at

(53:53):
jack of all trades on this broadcast. He really is
pitchering my manager and he's gonna be a superstar commentator
as if he's already in pro Damn put the reality power.
Huh h.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
We had a game in Korea that I played in.
We had a we had a home run derby for
the pictures where all the pictures we we did our
own home run derby in front of the fans, and
I won that home run derby.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
So well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
We are very serious about baseball Motor City. They're very
serious about they are.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, but the reality situation is you gotta be the
check of all trades. Hey, listen, I can. I would
have loved to have been nicking Calloway's catcher. Oh, I'll
tell you It'd have been danger We're dangerous on there
maybe a little later in life. What the reality is?
My man met here? Imagine we had touched some major damage, right,
we would have.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
Easy easy to frame eighty eight. I promise you you
would have. You would have handled it easy to.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Tell you what? As Nick continues to hang around with
us on Monday night, you j only imagines the psychology
I have with the umpires and all the other things
that I used to do over the mouth. And I
think Mickey's getting to know we well well. I can
imagine when Terry all I can't say, I'll give you
the last word, but you have a station break. A
few more topics get too. I know we talked additionally

(55:22):
about the AVA system, but this is something that I
knew a candy anything else you want to say about
the ABA system that you haven't really had a chance
to know. You hit us with some really good questions.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I also wonder if you will see more swinging third
strike outs, and if you'll see more opposite field hits
because you're swinging later because you're like, oh wait, I
got a quick swing because this is a strike, and
they might be a little more apt to opposite field

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hit as well.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I can't can'sie, you're the last word. We go to
histation break go ahead, cassill.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Sor to Candy's question.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
I don't see it changing very much because you know,
on a borderline pitch, some batters are apt to which
I've never liked it, and I and I still don't
like it. More batters are apt to put it into
the umpire's hands, which is never which is never a
good idea.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
I don't think. I don't see it changing very much.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
An opposite field though, you gotta you gotta be the
kind of hitter that could do that, and you've got
to be strong enough to do that. And I don't think,
you know, it really depends on the hitter. So really
it's just I don't see it changing too too much.
But you know, I think your approach might change knowing
that's in play. But other than that, though, I don't
see it changing whether people go down swinging or or

(56:39):
put or putting the game in the umpire's hands.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
And also, I gotta I got a question for Mick.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
How accurate was Angel Hernandez's umpire tendency report?

Speaker 7 (56:48):
Upon receiving it, it was it was below average? What
a great guy he is. But you know, I love
talking to Angel. You know, you get Angel away from
the ballpark. You talked to the amazing guy.

Speaker 8 (57:02):
Get him away from home plate.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Bro, Yeah, you can keep him on the field, you
know that.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
Surprised, Yeah, you'd be surprised on those. You know, if
you're if you're still in the ninety percent range, it's
not a very good game, right. You want to be
up in that ninety eight ninety seven, ninety eight range.
So you know, umpiring is a difficult thing, right, You're
back there, the guys are throwing one hundred and two
with movement, and you're trying to, you know, call it

(57:31):
very quickly and not look like an idiot. But you know,
I think Tim McClellan had it best. He waited forever before.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
He went to rike.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
You know, you're always like, was that a strike or not?
Then he goes strike, so maybe he had it was
like six y five.

Speaker 8 (57:44):
Yeah, a long time to stand up.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
I think I think what I think what did umpires
in was when they moved the camera from just above
home plate to the pitcher's mound, No.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah, go ahead, and Clark can give you the last word.
We have a lot more stuff to get to, but
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Candy's point about the swinger. You know you saw the
statistics on Wilson.

Speaker 9 (58:07):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
You know his dad was in the major leagues and
shortstop for the A's. This is the opposite of moneyball.
This kid has not walked the entire season. He went
in the All Star break. He's only seen three balls
in an account five times. Like, that's crazy. This kid
is jumping on strikes in the zone early and often,

(58:30):
and he doesn't strike out much. He doesn't have very
many strikeouts. So I do wonder, Candy if he's gonna
be kind of a guy they look to who's who's
not just a free swinger because he's ahead of it.
He's just a strike hitter. And and Kwan's a little
bit of the same guy from Cleveland, right you put
it in the strike zone. He is bad on the ball,

(58:50):
like and so there's a there's a new era of
hitter there that I think is coming that's gonna be
probably more valued, especially with the zone.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I'm telling you, Stephen, Stephen Kuan is probably I mean you,
you can be intimidated by home runners, but I'm telling
you Stephen Kwan is the most intimidating hitter in baseball
right now.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Because he does not strike out.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
And if there is.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
If there are runners on base and and one and
less than two outs and he makes contact, odds are
the runs coming home because guy does not strike out.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
All right, now, Candy, you get your station break.

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Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
All right, next few topics, We're gonna go and rapid
fire format one of these things along a little bit.
We have a lot of great stuff left to go
on the broadcast for sure, and I know Trent has
to get out here prey soon, so I want to
make sure he's a part of a few of these
key ones. First of all, Trent Okay Brewers have won
ten straight games. They swept the Dodgers three in a row.

(01:01:07):
Jacob Mizeroski get this topped out at twenty twenty three
miles per hour scoreless frame. So here's the thing. We're
talking about a couple of situations there where the Dodgers
payroll for their il is one hundred and eleven point
seven million dollars, where the entire Brewers payroll is one

(01:01:28):
hundred and eleven point seven million dollars. What are your
talks about, Trent? The Milwaukee Brewers. It's bad notes they
swipt me. Dodgers. What, No, it's the second time, but
this go ahead. You know I'm gonna lead off with Candy. Yeah, no, no,
I want to go ahead with Tretton and Candy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Oh, Trent, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:01:46):
First of all, I love what's what's brewing with Milwaukee
and Chicago. I think this is great. They're about sixty
miles apart then between Wrigley Field and that stadium. I
love this their division. I like this better than the
Chicago Saint Louis deal. There's a lot of people in
Greater Chicago that are kind of mixed in this because

(01:02:07):
once you go north, the brew cruise a little closer.
So I like the I love the Milwaukee story. I
want them to do well. I'm excited for them. I
want the Dodgers and the Mets to call me if
they want to get one hundred million dollars off the IL,
please give me a ring, because I can help you
with that. Trap because and it'll cost you a fraction
of that question about percent of that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
So, Trent, I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions here.
Number one, the one hundred and eleven point seven million
on I the injured live versus a one hundred eleven
point seven million collectively, and the prayer roll is unbelievable,
and it's unbelievable, man. And then the second part is,
how about our buddy, mister Jacob Miseroski. There was a

(01:02:52):
conversial topic a week ago, but all of a sudden,
this guy top about one hundred two point three miles
an hour, and it ends up becoming a pretty good story.
After all he was there's a sad bring on.

Speaker 8 (01:03:04):
Yeah, there's nothing controversial about Jacob. He's he's a young fireballer.
He he is I think George hit deadhead like he
is the Mark Fidrich of this era right now. And
I you know, I hope he has a ton of
a great result, you know. And I think Clayton Kershaw
probably really identified with him in the clubhouse when he
was that twenty one year old kid. He didn't have
the same flamethrower, but he came up with a lot

(01:03:26):
of expectations and h and a great name. Listen, I
don't know what Clake curse. He sounds like, you know,
a country music star, right, and he's been a hero
ever since. And I just think that the kid is.
The kid's got tons of stuff going in Milwaukee. I
hope Milwaukee can afford to keep him for a long
time there and and be a great impact. He's he's
already had great impact on the city. Super exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
All Right, you know what, Trent, when I'm gonna do
since you're on a time limitation, I'm going to hit
another topic. Everybody around the horn will do that afterwards.
Is that fair enough to everybody? Okay? The Pittsburgh Pirates
have reached an all time low, as you can make
a case that Bob Dunny is the worst owner of baseball.
The Chicago White Dos outscored the Pirates twenty seven to

(01:04:10):
seven over their last over their last three games, sweet unbelievable,
Pittsburgh's widest margin in that series this season. The loss
dropped the franchise to below five hundred all time at
ten eight seventy nine wins in ten thousand and eighty eighty.
Of course, tonight it got even. I'll get to that
in the moment, but it's the first time they've been

(01:04:33):
below five hundred and more than one hundred and twenty
years since nineteen oh three. Doesn't get any easier. Now,
they played the Detroit Tigers. The Tigers lost tonight, So
now that at the five hundred market, you know it's
going to go back under five hundred. Anyway. The Tigers
are simply just worn out from last night's Sunday night
game and they ended up reaching sixty wins last night

(01:04:54):
with the Texas Rangers. So what are your talks about
the dividse of the Pittsburgh five.

Speaker 8 (01:05:01):
Well, I think you know again, you guys have heard
me say it here, Like I believe in relegation, like
I believe in this, I'm telling you that like the
Chicago White Sox, what did they lose one hundred and
twelve one hundred and fifteen last year, it was a
massive deal. They have not improved a lot. You just
scout out scored five to one to this club. It's
not good. And so you know you when you talk

(01:05:24):
about Pittsburgh, they are in this just rut. And listen,
Pittsburgh's a thriving city. They're getting health care. There's lots
of things happening. They have got a gorgeous stadium, The
whole riverfront has been redone, and it is primed for
a winner. Bob Nutters got to get this right and
spend some money and get this club in the right
direction because that team, that town deserves a winner. And

(01:05:48):
it's tough, man, I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:52):
I think maybe Bob will lose his steam here and
maybe want to sell the franchise. But there's a lot
of wealthy individuals who are happy to buy a club.
So when he wants to move on, I think he's
going to have that opportunity and maybe maybe Mlbani's to
force a sale. That's why I think relegation becomes so important.
If you can't put a product on there on the
field that's of the quality that the fans demand and

(01:06:15):
that the price points demand. You know, you can't just
charge ten dollars at a Major League Baseball facility like
there is a there's a price. There's a business acumen
here that's going on, So you can't do that. So
who's going to pay it? You know, you're to see
it every five days. When Paul skiing throw and then
other than that, you got you got nothing. Okay, we
got to change it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Last topic that we're gonna get you out on. I
want to make sure you get this one since it
really falls into your domain anyways. As a strength and
conditioning guy, Edwin Jackson throws a no hitter. Get this,
I believe it was on June twenty fifth, twenty ten.
It was one hundred and forty nine pitches. It was
the fourth no hitter of that particular season as the

(01:06:56):
Diamondbacks defeat of their brother team from nineteen need expansion
Tampa Bay Race, Trent, what your thoughts about a guy
throwing one hundred and forty nine pitches in this day
and as to get a nother?

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I have no problem with that. You know, I
think you got to know your pictures and you know
your style. Like maybe maybe I'm not gonna do that
with a power guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
I gotta think hard on that, Like this is probably
a better one for Mickey than me because he really
knows it so much better than I do. But from
a fitness side of things, like I see athletes who
have got better VO two max, they got better heart rate,
their calmer on the mound, they can stay out there.
Are we concerned a little bit about ligament, Yeah, yes

(01:07:37):
we are a little bit, but we can also pull
that back. There's a lot of people who have thrown
one hundred and twenty five, one hundred and fifty pitches.
Mickey being a star all the way up, like you're
you're asked to throw one hundred and fifty pitches every
time you go out there and win as a kid,
So she's used to that. If his body has built
that tolerance and is accustomed to that, and he's in

(01:07:59):
always good armslot, he does not have arm issues and
he's built up the tolerance. Listen, there's plenty of iron
Man all running around and they're going out to y
Kiki and running the iron Man, which you have to qualify.
They do six to eighty year. They know how to
get injured. They are training properly to guard their body.
What one hundred and fifty maybe too many for others.

(01:08:21):
I think there are people that can handle that load.
I think it's more of a personal matter, and I
think we're doing it in justice saying let's put everybody
in a box. You can only throw ninety in April,
then you can throw one hundred and may like whatever
we're trying to do. I just think it's crazy. I
think we got to be more thoughtful to that. There's
a lot more data we can collect.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Now to know better. All right, Well, you know what,
we have a little more time to get to it.
Two more. Thanks everybody for being patient. I want to
make sure Trent has an opportunity to speak on as
many diseases again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
J D.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Martinez, by the way back and June twenty first, ended
up hitting free home onuns of the Tigers, and he
picked up six or of the eyes in the game
as the Tiger twelve before. Yeah, he's certainly currently a
free agent. Do you think Tret that he that dating
Martinez will land someplace before the season's up.

Speaker 8 (01:09:10):
Well, I think he's a guy with the experience. You know,
he's a veteran guy who's got presence, who's been there.
So I think there's some value for that in a
team down the stretch. He's a great bat, He's he's
not gonna hurt you for sure with the bad at least.
But you know, it's a matter of positions. You got
young guys, It's a matter of his health. I don't

(01:09:31):
know how his health is, and so there's a big
factor there. There's a lot more factors probably behind the
scenes on that than people know. But quality of player
and the mentality of a playoff mind. If you've got
a young team, you know, I think about some of
the veteran guys that Madden brought in with Tampa Bay
kind of down that stretch when he had that young
crew back in like what seven eight, back when they

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were really starving. You know, you get a couple of
key veteran guys who bring a mentality to the that
I think is a really deal. He could he could
be a person like that, but like, this is not
a guy I would go for in Pittsburgh or White Soxville. Like,
you got to develop talent. You're not looking for people
on their way out. You're looking for people to raise up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Our final question for you before you go, Andrew mccussion
did pass for bertal Clementi on the Pirates All Time
list of two hundred and forty one home runs.

Speaker 8 (01:10:23):
You're happy to see that, Yeah, really happy to see
it in you know, him coming home to Pittsburgh. You know,
Andrews had a long career and one of the best
guys in baseball. Like this guy is a reputation and
probably not unsimilar to you know, Roberto Clemente in the fact,
like you know, if humanitarian guy who's been around, always
been a fan favorite in Pittsburgh. So it's nice to

(01:10:44):
see him to come home. And it does give those
fans something to cheer about, right, like they're they're happy
to see that guy. That's gonna sell a few tickets too.
But you know, you can't get gimmicky. Let's not get
Stargol off the bench and try to bring him back,
you know, like we got to get smart about Pittsburgh
and what's going on there to build them back up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
All right, well, you know what, Trent will see you
next Monday night. Thank you very much of your time tonight,
and obviously, but before you go, before you go, let's
put your book up there real quickly. Hell, everybody know
the get old of ye We'll see you next Monday night.
But go ahead, put that up there real quick, and.

Speaker 8 (01:11:15):
You can reach me out, yep. Trent at leadership dy
dot com. Trent at leadership t y dot com, email
me anytime reach out. I'm on all the Socials at
Trent m clark or Leadershippity. I am a serial entrepreneur
who helps a lot of organizations double very quickly their
growth size and achievement. So we are all about that.

(01:11:35):
You can find our podcast winners find a Way with
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Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Please go out and.

Speaker 8 (01:11:43):
Buy the book leading winning Teams. I love joining one
hundred stitches man, and I'm glad everyone's here. Big show tonight.
Thanks everybody for having me, and sorry I got to
run early.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Well that's okay, we'll see you next Monday night, Trent
god Blast night'stop tonight. All right, my friend, bless you
gag all right, thank you? All right, so I have
five troopers left. Thanks a lot for hanging it with me. Now,
you guys at least have a pretty good idea with
the topics. So anyways, so we'll go over back to
the Brewers situation. I'll reiterate what we talked about. We'll

(01:12:12):
start off with missus Brewers, so Candy obviously they've manhandled
the Dodgers lately, so and of course Jacob Zerowski Candy
take over from there. You know about the differences in
payroll none when you talk about the il versus the
actual well candy go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
We've always talked about how the Brewers are a small
market team, and they are, but they find a way
to win. They find a way to be relevant. They
might not obviously they haven't won the Major in one,
the World Series, but they get to the playoffs more
often than they don't. And I think it's about the chemistry,

(01:12:53):
you know. I was thinking about this on my way
home tonight and like, what gives what makes the Brewers
different Because they're a small team. They don't have the payroll,
they don't have the big you know, big Trek Scoobles
in the world, you know, or Miguel Cabreras. And I'm like,
what makes them different? And I and I honestly think

(01:13:14):
it's the atmosphere. I think it's the fans getting involved,
the camaraderie of the team, that they're just having fun
and playing the game that they love to play. And
you don't have to have the biggest payroll to be
successful as long as you play together. As it remember baseball,
there's no eye in team, and I think that makes

(01:13:35):
a big difference. There's no one person that's got their
big heads swell that says I got to be on
the field all the time, or or if I'm in
a slump, I'm bringing the team down. Like there are
some teams that have some all stars that are that
keep the media keeps feeding them and asking them, why
are you in your slump? What's happening? What's And I
don't think you have that like I just think I

(01:13:58):
think it has a lot to do with it being
a small market and the fans being behind them. They're
not fair weather friends. They're there. They have a lot
of sellouts. And yes, sometimes I know from my past
when I went that they would say, oh it's Wrigley
North because they would have a lot of a lot
of fans from the Cubs. But either way, you have

(01:14:20):
fans in the stands and there's something to be said
about let's face it, we went to Miami this weekend
and yes, there was what eighteen thousand for a weekend game.
But you go to Milwaukee and you're talking there's always
over thirty sometimes closer to forty many sellouts. They have

(01:14:41):
a lot You're playing in front of a lot of
fans and there's an excitement about that, then you bring
up this. You know, Jacob Mozarel's in his first outing
five no hit innings. He pitched five. How many times
do you get no hit hits? And when you're first

(01:15:04):
coming out as a pitcher, Let's just say this. The
twenty third year old became the ninth pitcher of the
modern era since nineteen oh one and the first Brewers
pitcher to throw at least five no hit innings in
his major league debut. The only pitcher in MLB history
to throw a complete game no hitter in his big

(01:15:28):
league debut remains does anybody know I wouldn't have got
guessed this Bumpus Jonas, who did it for the Cincinnati
Reds back in eighteen ninety two. The Brewers only have
one complete game no hitter by one pitcher, That was
jan Niavis back in eighteen or nineteen eighty seven. Corbyn

(01:15:53):
Burns and Josh Hater threw a combined no no in
twenty twenty one. But to make your major league debut
you and have five no hit that says a lot
about how you're throwing the ball. Fourteen so he he
lasted five innings and three pitches. He had over eighty
one pitches, forty nine were strikes. Fourteen of his pitches

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were clocked at one hundred miles per hour or more.
That says a lot. And yes, there was controversy should
he be in the All Star Game? Should he not?
We've been over that. There was other pictures that decline that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
But look what he did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
He's he's proven that he is should be out there.
He's exciting to watch. He has such an excitement about him.
And if you watch him pitch and his smile and
it's infectious, love it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
The last thing I'm gonna ask you, Candy, I thought
we moved the show along, okay, as the fact that
the Dodgers and the Brewers has been pretty one sided
in favor of the brew Crew.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
The brew Crew took three the Nationals, took three from
the Nationals, and then played the Dodgers again and took
three again from the Dodgers. So yes, they have won
both series. They just have the Dodgers number this year
sometimes like that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
All right, Skiff, But your thoughts about the Brewers Dodgers scenario,
Massarowski and company.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
With everything Candy just said, I think she articulated it perfectly.
I think the small market teams there's there's a dynamic
to them where they can really have that camaraderie. And
once you start winning as a small market team, you
start to realize every year, oh, we can do this.
You know, we're not necessarily the underdog. We have less pressure.

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We can just have fun, you know, and just be
the team that we want. We don't have all as
many outside distractions. Tampa Bay is one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
You see Tampa Bay doing it most years, and it's just,
you know, you really can't have that small market mentality
or try to put a small market.

Speaker 10 (01:18:06):
All together in a big market.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:18:09):
I think Red Sox we're going to go that way
that some money and retire bring me in this happen,
and then it just doesn't go that way. You actually
have to be a small market team and not to
not spend money, and the fans will still and write
you and you still have a camp of winning. So
I think that's a lot of it. And then I'm
so happy for this young kid. Anytime we can have

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an up and coming star that really makes an impact,
that's what we want every single year, right, we want
thirty of those guys of the year, so so the
fans can stay excited. So I'm really happy for the
young Kip.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Yeah, that's an interesting point. What about the domination that
the Brewers have had skip on?

Speaker 7 (01:18:53):
So, like, like Cat said that, that sometimes just happens
for whatever reason during the season. You just go and
you beat up on this team, and and then this
team beats up on you, and you're like, how does
that team beat us six out of seven this year
or whatever? And it's just something that happens, and you
get on that role, you get that confidence against the team,
and the other team's like, oh my gosh, what's going on?

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And it just you just end up steamrolling them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Great stuff, all right, Eric.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
I mean just being in the being the city, right. Obviously,
I've been living here for the past soh three forty
years now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
I don't know. I'm losing I'm losing track. That's what
happens when you turn thirty, is is you know, well,
well used to look pretty good. They the Brewers. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
It's just first off, I can't think of anything more
satisfying than sweeping the Los Angeles Dodgers and turning Dodger
blue a little into Navy blue.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
I think it's it was fantastic both both ways.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
I mean, the Brewers are, man, they're like compared to Chicago,
but walk he compared to Chicago is not nearly as
big as what Chicago is.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
They're like, they're the city that would do, will do.
It's like the kid in high school.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
There's that one kid who would like nothing more than
to walk all over you in that hallway because you're
because you're acting like the hot giant. And Milwaukee is
that kid who wants to walk all all over that
that one kid and make them look bad. That's just
that's the that's the way the city has been since
at least since I've been in Wisconsin. But man, they

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just it's just a team of unlikely people contributing it
just they play a team brand of baseball, which I
think has kind of gotten lost in recent years in
the game. I'm not sure if I'm not sure if
Mickey agrees with that, but but it's it's it's fantastic
to see the pictures that they have in their rotation
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Weren't projected to be there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
Most of the pitching staff got hurt in spring training,
so you're thinking, okay, you know last year.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
You know what happens. You know the injuries. You know
that's just the way it goes.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
But nobody saw Quinn Priester or or or even Miserrawski
playing a huge role. I mean even Brandon Woodruff coming
back to form. Also Jose Quintada, the guy still has it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
It shocks me this day.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
He hasn't been able to stick anywhere because that guy
can eat minutes. But it's been fantastic to see that.
It's just been a team brand of baseball. And the
thing about too, is their their general manager, Matt Arnold,
who took over after Stearns left. Stearns well, he took
a detour and served as a quote unquote advisor.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
But he was waiting.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
He was waiting for his contract and so he could
go to the Mets. The guy plays chess while everyone
else is playing checkers. He will go for high upside
guys and make it work. You know, they're a heavy
data they're a heavy data team. And look what they're
doing with Andrew Vaughan. Andrew Vaughn's looking like the player
that the Socks thought they were getting when they picked

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him third overall in twenty twenty. They you know, they
are just they're just that team that you know, yes,
there's less pressure, but they're they like to surprise everyone
at this point. You know, every time we think the
Brewers are going to take a step back, they're right
in the thick of that race. And I think Mickey
can attest this too. Is the players and I'll say
this until I'm dead, and you can write it on

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the grave too. The players ultimately have the final say
on what happens between the white lines, and the Milwaukee
Brewers are a perfect example of that. The players ultimately
have the final say on what happens.

Speaker 7 (01:22:24):
O good, George.

Speaker 9 (01:22:27):
Oh, that's a lot of stuff as far as Milwaukee goes. Yeah,
I was surprised. I was surprised that Dodgers are struggling
like this so much. It really is disconcerting. I know
for fans, all the money they spent and all the
great superstars on that team and they're struggling mightily Milwaukee. Yeah, again,

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I echo the same sentiments. The market they're in, and
Mickey you mentioned about Tampa Bay. Another one is the
Athletics over the year, and of course the Tigers. I
mean these teams that are in a smaller market. I mean,
they you thrive on a fan base that's very loyal
and very passionate. You're fifteenth in attendance, candy, you're averaging

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twenty nine thousand and eight ninety eight two or eight
eight two, sorry, And you're ahead of Detroit, You're ahead
of Saint Louis, You're ahead of good baseball towns like
Cousin today in Cleveland. Milwaukee is so they're fifteenth now
on the attendants right now, which further emphasizes, like you said,
the sellouts. They're enjoying the fan support that they get.

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And isn't that what it's all about?

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Really?

Speaker 9 (01:23:36):
I mean, you can't contend with these guys that are
throwing money out all these owners in these big cities.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
You can't.

Speaker 9 (01:23:43):
But there's every year there's at least a couple of
teams like this, and Milwaukee's one of them that shows
up and shows up and wins.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
So I'm excited for them. I am all right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
So I'm going to put a bow on this topic
because we do have a few more I want to
get through number one, and the Brewers have the Dodgers
number in the regular season. Let's see what happens during
the regular seaton during the playoffs. I want to see
it happen in the postseason. Number two. The payroll situation.
One hundred and eleven point seven million dollars on IL

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versus the total payroll is the most astounding figure that
I've ever seen in my life. I L versus the
actual down, Eric, let me finish, okay, IL versus the
actual payroll for another team as an astounding number. Thats
item number two. Jake Mizrawski. Remember people, twelve pitchers did

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not want to go, and this guy took advantage of
his opportunity. And not only did he did, he hit
a clean inning and was toping one hundred two point
three miles per hour. That's all I have to say
about it. When I look at stats, and I've seen
a bunch of them in my years. One hundred and
eleven point seven for an IL versus our actual payroll,
that's just real, all right, Eric, make it quick. I

(01:24:59):
want to move things along.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
How much do you think how much of that money
do you think with Bobby boniad.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I don't know, not gonna no comment out ahead of that.
Let's move this thing along. But those three things there,
let's see what that was with the Brewers and the
Dodgers in the postseason. That's what I have, but at
least they had something to build on during the regular season.
It's about it's not only what you do leading into
the midseason, it's how you fare later on. And that's

(01:25:25):
what we have, all right. I want to really move
these topics along a little bit quicker rapid fire. George
Reichorn JD. Martinez says he landed a major league uniform
at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
By the end of the year, uh boy, you know,
and I really liked him as a batter.

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
I you know, I'm not quite sure if he can
still make a comeback, but if anybody can, it's him.
I mean, he's always kept himself in great shape. You know,
Detroit tried to resurrect his career and they did when
he came over from from the state of Texas. And
he's you know, as we know, he's been around many
teams ever since, including the Red Sox. But you know what,

(01:26:02):
it's very competitive out there, and he is getting a
little older obviously. Uh for strictly for hitting for a DH,
I'd say, you know, I'll be wish you washing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
I don't say fifty to fifty chance gosh that he
can make it back.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Candy, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Say, I don't think he's gonna as much as I
liked him, I don't know that he's gonna make make
a team yet this year?

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
We do you think skip? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:26:27):
I think it's I think it's got to be like
the perfect situation, right, He's got to be a d
H spot probably they need they need a professional hitter
up there, guy with it with a little power, and
if you know, if all the stars aligned, he maybe
may get a shot. But like George, I'm kind of
fifty to fifty. It's got to be like the perfect
scenario for somebody to sign him, can't.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
He I don't think so, because even if you do
bring him back, yeah, he's a great designate hitteror and
he's still showed that he still has something left in
the tank last year with the Mets. It's, you know,
he got to ramp him up because he had he
probably hasn't swung a fat in a while, and you
got to put him. You're probably gonna have to put
him down in the minor league just to get him
to ramp up. And it's also really starting to get

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really late in the year where signing guys is probably
is probably not going to happen, unless, you know, unless
desperation amounts, where you know, someone decides to, you know,
be what the Angels have been doing over the years
and just sign them, just to sign them.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
But I don't see it happening because last.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Year, you know, the bat was, you know, you starting
to decline, and but you know, the fact that he's
had a long career is you know, has been pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
But I don't see it happen. It's just getting too
late in the year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath on this one either.
It'd be different if he was a player that was
hurt this year, thinking he can make a difference later.
But he hasn't played a game this year. So the
ramping up part is what has me. All right, let's
keep moving this thing along. Go back to Andrew McCutcheon
passing Roberto Clementia on the Pirates Alt Time List two
forty one. George, are you happy to see it? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I am happy.

Speaker 9 (01:27:57):
I mean, you know, all these records, I should say
all of them, some of them will never be broken,
but I mean, I know and it doesn't take anything
away from ROBERTA.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Clementy, you know, but I think it's it's it's good
that a younger.

Speaker 9 (01:28:10):
Person, even though he's got a lot of years on him,
McCutcheon did it. It's some excitement for the Pittsburgh organization.
And I really think that it takes again, nothing away
from Roberta. We know how he stands, and obviously he
was taken away from us too soon. So but for overall, yeah,
for Pittsburgh, I think it's good. I mean it's a

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situation where a guy that's been around a while, you know,
stuck around, came back now to the organization and set
this record. So yeah, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
S guy, what about you, Candy having to see this record?
You're broken?

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Records are meant to be broken. I mean, that's why
you have them and you keep them. Kudos to him
for being there as long to be able to break
this record. I mean, yes, there are certain records, like
George said, never be broken, cal ripping, never be broken.
But am I glad for him yet? I know, Scott,

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you interviewed him years ago, so yes, I'm happy.

Speaker 7 (01:29:11):
To see stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
Okay, what you can't see, I can't be happier.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
I'm glad Bob Nutting at least decided to try to
use some money because I thought no one would ever
pass the record because he wouldn't want to spend the
money for it to happen. But I think, you know,
no one, no one better than Andrew mccutch. And I
was fortunate enough to see to see him for the
one season and Milwauk in What a class guy.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
I mean, you know, m v P. You know, very
very very generous.

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
You know, obviously he's done a lot for for the
city of Pittsburgh, and you know he's right where he belongs.
I'm happy that he's doing it in a pirate's uniform,
and I'm happy that that his legacy, that he's forever
going to seal his legacy in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
Yeah, with with every what everybody said, you know, unbelievable
first class individuals. So I'm really happy that somebody like
him was able to do this play for a long time. Obviously,
Roberto Clemente, you'll never be able to take away what
he's done. That's just let's legendary status and always will be.

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But Andrew mccutch and one of the greatest guys to
play the game, and I'm glad that he got this
opportunity to play long enough to set this record.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Yeah, I have no problem with it either. More power
to him. Roberto Clementy's one thing. Whether there's ever a
pirate in this day and age when there hadn't been any,
then it's Andrew mccutton junior. All right, let's go on
to the pirate's futility. I guess we can just summarize
it that way. Clarky gave us his version. Now we'll
talk about Bob Nutting. Is there a case that he
could be the worst owner in baseball? They had twenty

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straight losing seasons. I know the widow of Roberto Clementy
was hoping he would hit twenty one. Thankfully it didn't skip.
What do you think about the pirates? Bob Nutting? Now
that you are actually on our side of the Clayton
in the media, you have the right to be will
be critical of this guy and talk about the what
becomes the Pittsburgh Pirate? Three? And then do you get
hovering around the fire Hunter mark for one hundred and

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twenty three years in baseball?

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
That bad?

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
What do you think skept.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
Obviously a tough long stretch for Pittsburgh lately, right, I mean,
that's just not what you want if you're a fan. Now,
I don't know what his motivation is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
You know, did he buy the.

Speaker 7 (01:31:22):
Team and just gonna sell it and make bukuos of money?
Business wise? It was probably. He probably did some really
good stuff business wise. So if you're trying to, you know,
use that as a success marker, then then you're you know,
you're he's going to do amazing. He did a great
he had a great business plan.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Aims for the fans.

Speaker 7 (01:31:56):
And if you're not going to and you're not going
to spend the money that it takes for the fans
to have the product they deserve on the field, then
you know what, go ahead and make your little profit
and sell the team to somebody else, or you know,
I don't know, bring in some other people that are
going to spend some money and co own the team
or something. But let's let's put a product on the

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field that's going to be better than what they put
on there lately.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
So let me put you on the spot. Is that
the team you would have considered managing yourself. I mean,
let's they said, managers are jugged by whether you get
another opportunity is one thing, but you know, you don't
want to risk a reputation taking a job that can
make it even more difficult for you to go out
there and land another one later. That's not a job
that most people are comany since they're not spending any money.

(01:32:40):
And we see how many great managers have gone through there,
like Paul Tracy was another one. A lot of guys
that have failed there. Said something you would have considered taken.
I mean, now you're you're on my side. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 7 (01:32:51):
I think unless you're already eschewing for the Hall of Fame,
anybody's gonna take it, right, You have to. You have
to take the job when it's available because you might
never get the chance again. So yeah, you take the
job and you do your best to turn the organization
around and do things. So yeah, I would definitely take it,
and I would I would enjoy every minute of it.

(01:33:12):
But yeah, you know, unless I'm Terry Francona or somebody
they have they can they can say no, you know,
guys like me can't, And you know I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
All right, I appreciate that response. Great self stip all right, Eric,
because bear in mind, time is something if you want
to get your ramp, but I want to make sure
you get fair opportunity here.

Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
Oh Bob Nutting is a classic example. It's just because
you have a lot of money doesn't mean it doesn't
mean you're smart. I think that it's a shame. I
Pirates fans are great. They're passionate. You saw when they
had that one sliver of the postseason from I think
twenty thirteen. Do I believe twenty fifteen where PSZ Park
can get loud? I mean Johnny Cuato dropped the ball

(01:33:54):
because it got so loud. I mean they they love
their they love their Pirates, And I think it's really
unfortunate because seen a lot of great players pass through
that organization, and you know, it's it's just really really unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Quite frankly, really sad to me. I don't know what
Bob Nutting is doing.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
I'm not sure how you can be complacent as you
complacent as you are, unless you're unless you're Dick Montfort
in Colorado. I think that it's just it's just really
unfortunate because you're truthful. It's Baseball's fun when the Pirates
are competitive. But until Bob Nutting decides to open his
open his man, Perse, you know, I don't think the
Pirates are going to be competitive anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
George, Yeah, I mean this has really been a struggle. Obviously.
It's Steel City.

Speaker 9 (01:34:42):
A guy that I knew from work many many years ago,
Frank Greco, and Frank lives in in uh near Harrisburg.
But he would always tell me about how his how
his great team was still in.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
The Pirates and you know those were back in the days.

Speaker 9 (01:34:56):
Let's face that they really stargeled days in day Park
or they had some players, and it is a great
baseball town. The problem is is that the owners, some
of them, just don't get it right or they don't
have the formula for success. I mean, you know, it
really does happen a lot unfortunately, and baseball. You know,
like you said, Eric, I mean, you are success in

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your business, in your life, your career, no matter if
it we're building boats or or selling cryptocurrency or whatever.
These guys did in their lifetime to make all this mulah.
But then when it comes to running a team, it's
just nothing is guaranteed and there's no script that is automatic,
and I think that's where a lot of owners struggle.

(01:35:38):
They don't listen to advice they could get from solid
people in baseball or in sports, and I think Bob
Nutting is a perfect case.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Of that, Kadi.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
Due to Nuttings perceived tendency to put profits ahead of
competitive product on the field, he is often ranked in
both the local press and nationally as one of the
worst owners in sports, earning the nickname bottom bottom Line Bob.
Despite being the tenth richest owner in MLB, the Pirates

(01:36:14):
have consistently been the bottom third of pill roll. Under
his direct ownership, He's turned away Dallas Maverick's owner and
Lebanon native Mark Cuban from buying the team around the
time the Nutting family was becoming majority owners. He's also
turned down pit bids from the Pittsburgh Penguins owner Mario

(01:36:38):
lem Mew and Ron Brookele, as well as Pittsburgh Steelers
minority owner Thomas Tull, insisting that the team is not
for sale. Let's face it. He's been the subject of
harsh criticism due to some of the trades, moving pitcher
Jarrett Cole to the Houston Astros, moving centerfielder and McCutcheon
to the Giants and apparent fires sale. He's made a

(01:37:03):
lot of questionable calls. And if he's the tenth richest
owner and yet he's spending in the bottom third, that
says a lot. And that tells your team stuff too.
You know, what kind of owner are you? And are you?
How involved are you? And does your team want to
play for you? Do your players want to play for you?

(01:37:23):
You know, it's kind of sad, kind of sad.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Okay, nothing I'll say about it is for a team
that's over the one hundred and three years so we've
talked about with this team, to be close to five
hundred is an absolute joke. Period twenty years in a row,
losing seasons in addition to what they're going through now.
Clint Hurdle was a heck of a manager and he's
the one the most exciting things that I'm not going
to spend more time on the subject. I know that

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there's a lot of critical Fiftford fans out there, and
Canny gave out some unbelievable stats, but the bottom line
is to be one game under final about the time
Tigers came up. Okay, so they're at five hundred for
one more night day deal. But you've got to be
bad for a long period of time. That is bad period.
Shame on, Bob Nutting. Maybe the only thing left I'm

(01:38:13):
going to do is make a candy bar after you
so they can all eat it. I'll leave it at that.
Call it. I'll bet you if I were a marketing guy,
what do you think Skip, you and I could get there.
We can call it a You and I are going
to go in partners on this called the Nutting Bar
and sell in Pittsburgh. What do you think?

Speaker 7 (01:38:30):
Perfect?

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Like that idea? Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:38:32):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
Yeah, Nutting Bar will sell in Pittsburgh for all over
Pittsburgh fans out there. All right, let's go over to
Edwin Jackson. You know, I'm going to focus this on
mainly a new Skip, Okay, and if anybody wants to
contribute to it, fine, But I think this is one
that has Skip's name written all over it. All right,
and that's this Edwin Jackson. We talked about throwing a
no hitter one hundred and forty nine pitches, the fourth

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no hitter of the season, as the Diamondbacks defeat their
brother team from nineteen ninety expansion Tampa Bay Rays has
occurred in twenty ten. Nowadays, we're seeing combined no hitters
skip one hundred and forty nine pitches. Seems like an
awful lot in this day and age. Do you see
us getting to that number very much at all? Skip

(01:39:15):
going forward? The way the baseball is beginning.

Speaker 7 (01:39:18):
To change, it's just too much nowadays, right, I think
I think the demarcation line was probably about twenty ten
when Edwin Jackson did it. Right, Okay, now you're putting
guys at risk risk. You know, when I was playing
in high school back in the in the early nineties,
I was throwing one hundred and fifty, probably one hundred
and sixty, one hundred and seventy pitches a game. I was,

(01:39:39):
you know, I was just going to be out there
in college. I guarantee you I throw one hundred and
fifty pitches in some games. And in the minor leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
You know, there was times I was.

Speaker 7 (01:39:47):
One twenty, so, you know, pushing pushing guys to one
forty one fifty back then, I mean, no one, right,
those guys they were throwing probably two hundred pitches at times,
one to eighty, right, so it's just it's just kind
of stare stepped down as as time has gone on,

(01:40:08):
and to do it nowadays, the manager needs to get
fired if they if they leave it out there for
one hundred and fifty pitches, because even in the little
leagues now, these guys in the big leagues are young
enough where when they were playing little leagues you had
pitch counts and pitch restrictions, so they've never done it,
and then you're just messing with somebody's career if you
leave them out that long.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
I knew you would say that. That's why I really
wanted to I wanted you to really have a big
voice on this. If anybody else wants to comment, make
it BRIEFE. I want to talk about no hitters, and
we have aeros rent to get to anything you want
to stay quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Eric, Yeah, I don't see it happening, you know, unless
I mean, I assure you that someone's losing somebody's losing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Their job if that happens.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
And you know, I could guarantee you that if that
were happening today, the owner and probably the general manager
would be in the box all passing out because because
of how just it's not gonna happen now. It's just
it's unfortunate. I mean, I liked it when it was
that way. I mean, you know, I always live with pictures.
I live by the rule let the horses run.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
But it's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
I mean just you know, too much, too much, like
too much injury risk nowadays, guys aren't thrown enough.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
And it's just it just is what it is. That's
just the way the game is now.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
All right, let's put this comment on the screen.

Speaker 7 (01:41:25):
GM or the President will be calling down to the
dugout and saying, get this guy out of there.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
For sure, they pull a steinburner, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Great point. Let me, I don't know what the sizzle
put it up. Anyways, just a randoms up Scott for
the win from last week's story. He's great job being thorough.
Do you feel pride in helping clean up the union?
No question about it. You have to clean up the union,
that's ridiculous. But I'm glad that he was able to
mention that bringing on the show, and so thanks for

(01:41:54):
bringing up detright fan man. All right, George, some quick thoughts.
I we'll stay on the no hitters stay and then Eric.

Speaker 9 (01:42:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's uh, it's something that's going
to be so much desired.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
I mean, but we're just in a new era now
and it's not going to change now.

Speaker 9 (01:42:11):
It's not going to go back to one hundred and thirty,
hundred and forty or on one hundred and eighty pitches.
As you guys said, it does take away from the
excitement of no hitter though absolutely absolutely the share of
no hitters. Anyways, as far as Edwin Jackson goes, you know,
he's spent he spent a little time in Detroit, and
I know he moved around to a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
The guy's a great guy and really played his heart out.
He really did. And uh, but I think that, you know,
never look back on this. Your career is so important.
But to answer your question, got no, I you know,
it's just it's all changed now as far as no
hitters go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
Candy, did you comment on this yet? I did not
go ahead real quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
I'll just say that I don't the days of single
handed no hitters and is probably all but for gone.
I mean, I I hate to say it, but because
I think it's a feat that a pitcher really likes
to have in their belt, but don't. I just don't
see it. Unless you can be a Trek schoobl and
have almost a perfect game. That's the only way you're
gonna get it, because you're not gonna throw as many

(01:43:14):
pitches done.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
I don't see many of them either. One hundred and
forty nine. We all know that Edwin Jackson was a workhorse.
He really was. This guy was unbelievable. But I think
you're those guys are far and few between. Well, I
want to stay with the no hitters seeming very quickly.
Two no hitters on the same day in nineteen ninety.
Get this, Okay, we're talking June twenty ninth, nineteen ninety.

(01:43:36):
How about this. Dave Stewart of the As versus Toronto
and Fernando Valenzuelo versus Saint Luis threw them within a
few hours apart, Skip where you're talking about too, no
hitters on the same day.

Speaker 7 (01:43:48):
Yeah, that's amazing. You know that, that's the kind of
stuff you want to see in baseball on a nightly basis.
Obviously you don't have to, but that that's what baseball.
That's why baseball is so good, Right, you get so
many games going at the same time, and you want
to see phenomenal things happen. What a rare occasion. And
I know Dave Stuart very well, and what a great
guy he is, so you know, I kind of like

(01:44:10):
hearing his name from time to time.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Well you got it tonight, my Skip, no doubt. But
I you know, I like to come up with some
different off the wall stats, Skip, you know how I am.
I like the research pretty good. And this is I'm
glad that you like Dave Stewart in there. All right, Eric,
some talks about the no hitters, and after we get
down with this segment, Eric gets his rent for the
night and then we'll call it a night. All right,
go ahead, Eric.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
I mean two terrific pictures, Dave Stuart and also Fernando Balanzuela,
especially when he practically when first I think at eighty one,
he practically owned California with with Fernando Mania, where you
know there is nothing he could do. And you know
Dave Stewart obviously you know, accomplished picture his own right,
But man, two no hitters in one day.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
I mean, that's what makes this game so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:44:54):
I mean, you turn on the tube where you go
into the park or whatever, or or people of a
certain age with with the radio. Aside from when I
was sneaking it under the pillow at night, it was
you know, it just doesn't get much better than that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
I mean, you just don't know what can happen, and
the game is just so.

Speaker 5 (01:45:10):
Unpredictable, and you know, I would love to see something
like that happen again, but it's highly unlikely.

Speaker 9 (01:45:16):
George so Uh I was about I was about thirty
four years old. Uh yeah, Valen Suehla and his Dodgers
beat the Cardinals six to nothing, and Mike Soosha was
the manager. And then the one from Stewart opened one
over Toronto five to nothing, and Terry Steinbalack was the manager.

(01:45:39):
But you know what else though, it's amazing when I
looked this up today to do a little research. In
nineteen ninety, not only those two guys on the same day,
but you also had Dave Steve, Terry m'holland, Nolan Ryan,
Randy Johnson, and Mark Langston.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
I'm not kidding you.

Speaker 9 (01:45:56):
With no hitters in nineteen ninety unbelievable. I mean, they
talked about being the year of the picture. But bye gosh,
nineteen ninety sounds like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
A picture's year too. But yeah, on the same day, Scott,
You're never gonna hardly ever see that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Great points, George. I appreciate the references of Mike social
and Terry's talking about Candy. Did you come in on
this one yet? Nope, go ahead, and then Eric will
take over with his rent.

Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
So what I'll say is we will because we've said
we don't think we're gonna see money single handed no
hitters again. You're not gonna see days like that where
you have tool pictures duel. If you love pictures duel,
that's what you know. You love some of us. If
you love hitters duels, you're not. It's gonna be the
opposite way. So but kudos to both those pictures because

(01:46:47):
they were they was both were very good pictures in
their day.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
So yeah, I think this is gonna tell you right now.
The fact that you have two no hitters the one
day with two incredible pictures says a lot. I detest personally,
the combine no hitters and skip one of these. We're
going to talk about it more detail. But the thing
I like about going back on this day and time.
No matter what is, it brings up some interesting occurrences.
And that's why I bring in one or two of

(01:47:12):
these things on the show, because this is a good
thing for the baseball of gods here and the purists
that really like the game. That's why I incorporate these
segments into it. All right, Lastly, we're gonna wrap it
up with Eric Srant and then of course everybody has
opportunity to hold self skip. Before I want to make
sure that you also remind our audience, okay, about what
you're gonna be doing from the twenty third to the
twenty sixth, and also emphasize what lessons you teach. That's

(01:47:35):
something I want you to mention about your lessons every week.
But you have an opportunity to do something you love doing.
And since I love having you on, you're gonna we're
gonna market you like you've never been marketed before. All right, skip,
So go ahead, Eric, what you're right?

Speaker 5 (01:47:50):
Well, Well, first off, I was I was talking to
Scott about this earlier today and actually was and actually
asked him, was is is Candy jumping up and down
all happy right now? Because the Brewers are have just
banged off ten wins in a row. I'm telling you,
this is a team that, given all the arms that
were on the injured list, not many people gave him
a chance. And I didn't blame them, because it's hard

(01:48:11):
to win when multiple arms, especially starting pitchers, are on
the injured list.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
But they're winning with guys that you didn't even hear of.

Speaker 5 (01:48:18):
You know, I don't think anybody anticipated Chad Patrick and
Quinn Priester being as good as they've been this year. Heck,
Chad Patrick probably has an argument to get Rookie of
the Year votes. Also, Isaac Collins, you know, in the
in the lineup, has been extremely clutch. Yelich is having
a resurgence. It's finally good to see the good, old,
the old Christian Yelich back and he's as healthy as
he's been.

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
In a while.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
Andrew Vaughn another guy, especially with Hoskins going down for
the next month, He's come back.

Speaker 4 (01:48:44):
And looked like the player the White Sox thought they
were getting. It's been it's fun to watch this team.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
I'm telling you, this is a team that like is
not getting the run nationally that I think they should
be getting. And yes, they have you know, it certainly
helps when you have you know, Freddy Parolta and also
Jacob Mizerowski being is being like better than ever before.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
But you know, I'm telling you, the only I believe
the only.

Speaker 5 (01:49:08):
All Star they had on that the only All Stars
they had on that team where Trevor McGill and Freddy Parolta.
But aside from that, it's good old team baseball and
once again Matt Arnold is playing chess while the rest
of the league plays checkers.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Great. I enjoyed that, So I we go see you. Right,
he's one long show. But you know part about the show, right, Skip,
We have a lot of great content. Don't you like
all the things you get to learn week in and
week out?

Speaker 7 (01:49:31):
Skip, this is this is a great show.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
And yeah, you're right, I do. I do learn a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:49:36):
So this is this is an opportunity for all of
us to be able to just talk baseball and continue
to grow our baseball knowledge.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Yeah, I will say it with a lot of our shows.
And I'm glad that George only comes down twice a week,
so this is the only one he really gets text here. Okay,
I understand how a lot of those older guys feel
but this is the one show that will always be
longer because baseball is a time storytelling dangers really, where
you have stats and storylines, there's never enough of them.

(01:50:06):
And that's why I want to make sure that this
show is stocked deep in talent. And I'll actually be
talking to another guy who wants me up here on
his day ball show. And you never know if you're
going to be another teammates where along the line. So yes,
there's no question we love being able to write this
so and we're glad that you're going to be able
to people can enjoy it. But when I got a

(01:50:26):
guy like Mickey Kellaway, who I've had a good relationship
with for the last few years, I have him on
here makes me feel good because I'll tell you, this
guy knows the stuff. And I'm probably Skip is on
my team and our team. Skip, I'm telling you to
talk about the best team audition I've had all years.
You definitely are rate at the top of that list,
my buddy. All right, don't you ever forget I appreciate that.

(01:50:49):
So with that said, you can let everybody know what
you're doing this weekend. All right, Skip, what are you doing?

Speaker 7 (01:50:55):
I have the honor of being the head coach for
the twenty seven graduates in the Futures Game in Atlanta.
So I'm taking all of the best sixteen year olds
in Mississippi and we're putting the team together and we're
gonna go play in Atlanta. And I'm really excited about
lake Point has a there's a great ballpark there called

(01:51:17):
lake Point. It's first class and it's uh, it's gonna
be a great opportunity and uh, just teaching lessons and
I've I have some exciting news news for you. In
a couple of weeks. I just purchased about fifty acres
not too far from here, and I'm gonna expand my
lessons to on my own property. There's a build some

(01:51:40):
maybe a baseball field or two. And I'm gonna try
to really get guys from all over the country to
come in stay with me for a week, teach them
everything they need to know about pitching so they can
be a full pitcher. So we'll talk about more of
that as time moves on.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
I'll don't worry. I got news for I have a
hont of honesty. I'm gonna get up there and we're
gonna hang out now. I'm gonna have my little toy.
I don't have a miles Ocum sick. I'll be out Tibruski.
Interesting point two to five years, banana ball will be
more popular and will be never know, but they're drawing
good crowds. Toill leave it at that, all right, Eric, everybody, no,
they get ahold.

Speaker 8 (01:52:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:52:13):
You can follow me on my on my ex account
at sports Team News, or you can follow them. You
can follow my blog at bellyofsports dot com, where I'm
writing about all things baseball and if you if you
think I don't like your team, yes, I don't like
your team.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
Okay, George, you're up next.

Speaker 9 (01:52:27):
Well, you can get a hold of me at the
South Florida Tribune. I'm under the contributors section there my articles.
At the end of my article is a link to
my book, which is called Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the Air.
I know Eric's got a copy, Scott's got a copy,
and we hope, buh, we'll get you one soon, Mike Mickey,
because uh, a lot of the old baseball guys you're

(01:52:47):
going to recognize in the baseball section. You can also
reach me at GI cornerd Yahoo dot com or on
AX or Twitter at sang Sports ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Great to be part of one hundred and eight stitches
always it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
We'll be stock in your well. Let me tell you, Skip,
We're gonna be stocking your stock with a couple of
books here coming from this group here, and.

Speaker 7 (01:53:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
We'll be working on that soon. Skip, Do you wily
just become my brother?

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Can't you take us over? The final station break?

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Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
Well, great show, Clark did a great job. George Korn
solid as always. Eric, Like I say, your baseball knowledge
at your age so believable. Skip, what do you think
of Eric?

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Real?

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Quick?

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:55:48):
I love the young that's what we need. We need
our young fan base to be super knowledgeable in baseball
and we appreciate that. So Eric, you're awesome man. I
love hearing you tell talk and I learned a lot
from you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
Thanks you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
And this kid is a writer and he's we turned
them into a broadcaster. I'm proud of Eric. He's one
of the He's one of my young pups. Has done well. Son,
So great show tonight, great job, George, great job, Trent.
Eric is usual on Skip. You're getting better with every
darn show. My friend, you are.

Speaker 7 (01:56:20):
I'm not enjoying it, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
We're having a lot of fun with you, man. I
tell you, I tell you. I refer to you as
my Rolls roy when it comes to having a baseball
guy on here, and we're just telling you what's that.

Speaker 7 (01:56:36):
We don't want the wheels to fall off.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
No, no, no, they're not going to fall off.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
I got news.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
I'm driving the Rolls Royce, so I'm gonna fall off.
That's a part I'm throwing in there. But meanwhile, that
does it for tonight to just undred sits a baseball
talk so on behalf of George Korn, Trent Clark, Candy,
I'm line our skipper, Mickey Kellaway and Eric Atz. We'll
see you next Monday night. Thank you very much. Hope
you enjoyed the rest of the program the rest of
the week, and a lot of great videos coming up

(01:57:02):
from overseas. We'll catch it next time. God bless everybody,
and we appreciate all the participation in the chat room.
Every one of you guys are absolutely fantastic. Thanks for
joining us. We'll see if we can do better next
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best to do better next Monday night. There you go,
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