Savanna Banana's Baseball's Latest Hit

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello, everybody, Happy Monday after Thanksgiving. Hope everybody enjoyed their
time with the family. Obviously, last over the weekend we
went up to Tampa to take care of some stuff
between you know selfword of Bulls and the Right Solid
We're glad to be back on the show tonight. Well,
we're gonna do some very lighthearted tonight. There will be
no nonsports toping tonight, and you have baseball to go
out there. We're gonna talk about Savannah Baseball's Baseball's latest

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head Savannah Bananas. Excuse me, Savannah Bananas baseball. As lad
As said, there's a ton of teaser there. Bear, glad
to have the group on tonight. Eric, Kat's glad to
have you back on.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Eric, Thanks, Scott, good to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
And Candy, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Always good to talk baseball if you find gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
And George Reichorn's back.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Hey, how are you happy?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
He beleted?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Thanksgiving everyone, And.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Last not least, my battery mate Biryfoot Barry and I
go back a long ways.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I had to have Barry on again.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Thanks, glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I have a busy agenda tonight, so we're going to
go back to Motown, and then we'll start there a
long time Detroit sports writer and a guy that George
and I know all too well, and radio host Pakapoodle
leaves that Kevin McGonagall should have been elevated to the
major leagues immediately during the September run because Detroit needed

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to add a patent lineup and it's one of the
few can't miss prospects in the organization. We'll start off
with a guy that lives a motel, George, with your
thoughts about Pat's assessment.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Well, first of all, Scott, I want to tell you
if Pat is very knowledgeable, I respect his knowledge. He is, well,
there's only a handful of guys I think a Detroit
they know the minor leagues as well as he does.
For the Tigers system, the whole question about bringing him
up that early was debated back and forth on different shows.

(02:16):
I'm not in that camp. I don't think that the
pressure on that kid would have been enormous. I'm not
quite sure how he would have handled it. Nobody knows
for sure, and I think that the Tigers have their
plan and then when they want to bring them up
and showcase him, I think they're going to give him
a chance sometime during twenty twenty six, but I'm not

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sure when. Of course, you'll go to spring training with them.
But Scott, to answer your question, No, I don't think
that's the right thing to do. I maybe old school
in that regard, but I don't think Kevin should have
been brought up there during the September pennant push. That's
just my feeling.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's fine, Eric, It's a bad idea to bring to
bring a young kid up on agreement with George because
you know, you know, you're putting them in a pressure
cooker situation where Detroit's pushing for a pennant and it's
become time it's shown it's and we've seen this happen
before around the league, where it's shown that teams who
are trying to win now it puts the prospects under
a lot more pressure to produce, unlike teams that are

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not relevant in the moment or don't have another winning
window where the prospect can find can try and find
their way. I mean, it's but you know, that's why
you know with the Yankees, they have a hard time
sometimes developing prospect because you got to win and develop
which is not which is not easy to do. I
think Tigers did the right thing by just by not
bringing them up and not putting them in that situation.

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And who knows, maybe he'll be on the opening to
day roster this year. I know he'll at least have
a shot in spring training to make it, so we'll
see what happens.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Indeed, if you were thinking about doing it in September,
do it earlier when Detroit was going through that slump
and falling as it was. Bring him up, see how
he is. If he you know, if he performed well,
then you could you could keep them up there. But
putting that much pressure when they were trying to get
to the pennant was just too hard. And if he

(04:05):
would have done well, then yes, everybody would have been celebrated,
But if he didn't do well, that could have damaged
him for the future as well, in his confidence.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Very obviously the work of player development, nobody knows better
than you. If what wait, if you laugh on this
one one you're thought about.

Speaker 7 (04:23):
I think if you're dependent on a young kid like that,
it's I only know what level did he.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
Play at this year?

Speaker 7 (04:30):
Double A double A, Yeah, you know that's Uh, if
you're depending on them in a pennant race, you've got
a very much higher chance of hurting him than you
do of him helping you.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
So now I don't like that.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
I think if I'm kind of with Candy, if you
really think he's getting ready to go, get him up
there before the pressure is completely on him. I mean,
they had enough pressure on him themselves.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Before they brought that kid in there.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
That kid would have been in a real pressure cooker
the way they played the last you know, two months
of the season, no question about.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Here's the thing Don Manningly once told me, Now, once
you get to the major leagues. Obviously you talked about
the Triple A major league Baseball transition. Barry nobody knows something.
He played Triple A pitching, But you get to the
big league, it's a different animal. At These guys just
don't always handle it that well when they make it
to the big leagues. It's such a bigger adjustment. So
I'm going to go ahead rely on don Nannalley's exp

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TV deared Berry that I don't think it would have
been the right mood to put mcconna going in there.
I understand Pat, but I don't think Pat really got
this one right. I really don't. I disagree with them
one hundred percent. We'll staying in the Tigers organization. Back
in the Florida State Leader manager of the year was
Renee Rivera of the Lakeland Flying Tigers. I believe the
Tigers won the Florida State League title and they won

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both asis finals, so they're so again, Barry, you're familiar
with the Florida State League. Renee Revera is another interesting
name for people to watch, especially in the Tiger system.
What do you know about this guy or nothing else?
Let's talk about how important it is to win both
tasks in the Florida State League. That this guy could
be another guy in their system to watch out for.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
Well, he's he's already got too much experience to become
a big a big league manager. They like to take
these guys with no background, no experience and elevate them
to the major league job. But yeah, it's it's uh,
you know, we if you'll recall the year I managed
in the Florida State League, we we won one half
and then we we played well in the playoffs, ended

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up winning, you know, winning the league.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
But it's a it's a good league.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
It's a good I think all these guys should manage
it a double A and triple A. I think you
learn a lot about the game. Uh it's different than
you know what you do as a player. Uh so, yeah,
it's a good, good background for him to have and
winning is always a good thing. You can develop and
you can win at the same time.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, obviously you did, and so what you're You and
I were together when poor lander Dally Yankees won the
Florida State League champion.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
He went on to win another one.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Championship, I believe. Was it with a Myrtle beat Blue Jays?
Is that correct if I remember right?

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yes, Well, you know our best year.

Speaker 7 (07:12):
Really we didn't win the playoffs, but in the Eastern
League we've won that league by six games in the
regular season, but we ended up all our players were
gone by the playoff time. But yeah, it's a minor
leagues is a great learning experience for a manager. And
you know, a guy that's got big league background as
a player. A lot of times those guys don't think

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they need to go manage in the minor leagues. But
I think your most successful managers have managed in the
minor leagues.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Great point, Sorry, George, have thought about Rivera and Jeremy
Ballrick in the chat room, Terry and Arnolds having the
season and his shoulder surgery, so another setback for the
Detroit line.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Thanks Jeremy for that. Detroit.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Okay, go ahead, George, Okay, Yeah, I tell you what,
I'm very happy for him. I think that and you've
spoken about it Barry already, but that is a really
sound league, the Florida State League, and you know the
teams in what Clearwater and Daytona, Detroit, I mean Lakeland
and Saint Lucy and other cities. But I really think

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that there's no question about it. And you're one hundred
percent right, Barry. I knew you would be because the
levels that they can manage, it makes them much more
ready to someday hopefully get the call to the Big Lakes.
There's a lot of managers, like you said, that are
ex players and just retired a year or two, and
they annoy him as managers. But I like the system

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where you go in the miners and you do have
time to develop yourself, develop your skills as a manager,
because you've got a whole lot of things to worry
about man you know, pitching and pitch counts and young
guys that never reached this level or that level. I mean,
there's so much on the plate for a manager. So
I'm happy for him, and yeah, I think he's a

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candidate for someday being a manager or at least getting
to the coaching staff in the organization.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Eric, Well, you know, managing the minors teaches you a lot,
not just about player development, but also managing people because
it's you know, it's one thing why like I somewhat
have a problem with when the when the San Francisco
San Francisco Giants hired the University of Tennessee's you know,
head coach. And the reason I the reason that is

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is there's a world of difference between kids and professional
baseball players. In college, you're holding there, you're basically holding
their money, meaning you could take that away from them
if you if you deem that necessary. I mean, it
happens all the time in college sports where someone will
do something, do something against the rules, and boom, they're gone.
At the major league level, you can't do that. Your
power is significantly less. As a matter of fact, it's

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probably even lesser now with front offices kind of having
most of the control over what happened, over strategy and
what happens on the field. But you know, I don't
think managers nowadays are really learning the people aspect of it.
They they're kind of more honed in on the wins
and the losses and the pitching changes. But you gotta
you gotta know how to reason with them and know
how and know how to get them motivated enough to play.

(10:09):
It's really interesting during the season on where what you
can see when if a team is really together or not.
All you have to do is watch the dugout between
plays and between between at bath. You'll know what's what's
really happening inside inside the locker room just by watching
the dugout. I mean, I can A good example of
someone who's spent time in the miners is Pat Murphy,

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and he spent he spent a lot of time in
the miners right even right after he was the head
coach at both the University of Arizona and the University
of Notre Dame. And he's had a lot of success
in in Milwaukee and the players love them that. I
can't think of a more united clubhouse than Milwaukee's and
that's partially probably because Pat Murphy did go to the
minor league route.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Kenny so Renee is a Puerto Rican former professional baseball catcher.
He played for in the Major League Major League Baseball
for the Seattle Mariners, Minnesota Twins, San Diego Padres, Tampa
Bay Rays, New York Mets, Chicago Cubs, Los Angeles Angels,

(11:14):
Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, and Washington Nationals. And the reason
why I bring up so many, I mean all of
those teams he played for, was that he got the
experience to play under so many different managers as he
played so many different teams, so he has that kind
of experience behind him now. On February twenty first of

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twenty twenty three, he was named manager of the Frederick
Keys in the MLB Draft League. In January of twenty four,
he was hired as the bench coach for the Lakeland
Flying Tigers, and then he was promoted after just a
year to serve as manager of the Lakeland prior to
the twenty twenty five season, and then to win Manager

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of the Year. That speaks volumes about him and his
abilities to coach. You know that he got promoted so quickly,
and then he won that that award this year already
in his first year in a league that is a
good league. I mean, the Florida State League is a
really good league. So kudos to him for that.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, think about it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Andrew Graham's the guy I got to know over in
Daytona and he sat under Andrew Graham. I'm sure you've
probably heard of him, right, Barry Andrew Graham. If you haven't,
this guy here is at Double A and now you
have Renee and A. So Tigers have a couple of
good managers in that system, and they really really do.
And Andrew Graham. I think he's on the Australian World

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Baseball Classic. Nevertheless, he's a guy to watch out for us.
Well all right, well, Eric, he did a good job
segueing here, so we'll just talk about a little college baseball.
MELTSI was set to extend baseball coach Jay Johnson through
the twenty thirty two season. The deal will work, will
pay coach three million a year and making the highest
paid college baseball coach. And with that said, you talk

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about Tony Vichello was hired by the San Francisco Giants.
He was at the Tennessee Volunteers coach. Well, you know what, Eric,
you can start with it. They w't have Barry Follia.
Great college developments, especially when you think of Tennessee's keeping
their guy. And the reality is is the Giants went
down to the college to snap up there and go ahead, Eric.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well he's won the College World Series two times in
four years, which that's really that's really hard. That's really
hard to do. We're talking you got to be you know,
you've got to be playing coaching at like just an
accelerated level, probably some somewhere along the lines of legendary
Arizona State head of baseball coach Bobby Wiggles. But I
think LSU's doing this due in part I think it's

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a lot a lot of it's reactionary because they don't
want to lose his guiy to the bigs. They're doing
it at a react They're doing it because of what
happened to Tony Bontello, because you know, but Tello had
a lot of success at the University of Tennessee, no doubt,
and elis he's doing this and making him the highest
paid baseball coach in college baseball is because They don't
want to lose him to the big now that Buster Posey,

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what Buster Posey has done. You know, if I tell
has has success in San Francisco, you could bet that
you will see more college coaches coming over coming over
to to manage a Major League baseball team. I guarantee
you LSU's doing this too, not for him not to
be swayed by going to by going to the bigs.
And you know they want to protect that investment to work,

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to to work college world's two national championships in four
years at LSU, and plus a whole a whole plethora
players developed, like like Paul Skeins for example. You know
you got you got to keep that guy in house
and basically give him a blank checkbook and and the
front yard for him to stay.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Very well. Obviously.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Uh you know, he's probably making more money than the
guy that went to the Giants, I would imagine, And uh,
it's smarter the school to keep him. The school can
afford to pay it.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Obviously.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
They like paying their coaches big numbers, just like they
just gave Kiffin the big deal.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
So uh, now I think it's good.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
I'm gonna be really really interested to see how the
coach from Tennessee does at the major league level.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
It's a it's a whole different, different game.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
They're dealing with people that are making a whole lot
more money than you are and seeing how you deal
with it.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
So it'll be interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, I can alice you afford to pay coaches only
gave link Kiffin ninety one million dollars.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I think they can afford another three million, all right, sure.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Well, yeah, that's a lot of money. Johnson is doing
good for himself. I mean, I think he's got a
contract to about one point eight million a year, and
and you know, you talk about his achievements and you
know they were highlighted by Eric you know, the two
Worlds there, college World Series titles and four AP peer
pearances in the CWS. Just an incredible record. He's laid

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out and performed admiral play, you know, and he was
a former player. He's only forty eight, so he's got
a whole hell of a lot future ahead a m
And I'm sure that LSU would do their best to
try to keep him around because, like I said, they
are doing great with him. And when he took over,
that team just started winning, winning, winning so two World's

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College World Series is nothing AEDs that. Let me tell you,
he's a great coach, and hats off to him.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Kennedy, I mean, and of course, like Herrick said, reactionary,
what happened because on Tony Vattello. That's a great word
there by the way, this is a knee jerk reaction.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Reactionary. How are you going to slice it out? LSU
made a move. They have a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
But Tony Lttello, I'll I do you Berry, I'm curiously
how he does with the Giants, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Can so Jay actually has his degree. I don't know
if any of you knew that he completed his bachelor's
degree in physical education where he was also an assistant coach.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
And so.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
There's a very different level of play at the college
level and then at the major league baseball level, and
there's a different type of respect. I think for coaches
when you're younger and you're trying to get into the
big leagues, so I think it's easier. Sometimes it's more comfortable.

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Like Barry said, you're not coaching guys that are making
how many more millions than you are? Some of these
baseball players in the major leagues and it's comfortable. And
let's face it, now that there's n al you know
he's gonna I mean, being at a school such as

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LSU that would have the deep pocketbooks that they have,
he'd be able to recruit good players as well to
continue his success. His overall record is five hundred and
seven and two forty eight in NCAA tournaments. He's forty
three and sixteen as a head coach. Good record. He

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should get paid. And you know, if he wants to
move on, that's great. But if he's happy where he's at,
money's not everything. I mean, and he like he's like
we said, he's making good money as it is. So
and now that Lane kind of laid the foundation, maybe
there's a chance he's gonna get even more down the road.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, he's got to be salvating at that higher When
you think about it, think about Barry, you already got
three million bucks, right, Okay, Now you're bringing Lane Kiffin,
who can only do nothing with both of the recruiting
for the LSU sports program. And I know once football,
we all know what's not get ourself. You're doing well
the floor with football, the other sports are going to
benefit because all of a sudden, it's.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
A different animal all together.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
All right, Well, obviously one change you're going to see
it in Major League Baseball is the ab S challenge
system will be viewed in the twenty twenty sixceed And well,
no better person to turn off of you Berry, What
are your thoughts about that change for next season?

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Well, obviously they're going to end up using that system
full time down the road. It's just you know, they're
testing it out. I went to a minor league game
for the first time since they were doing that, and
first time they did, I said, what's going on here?
And somebody had to explain to me that you had
the ability to challenge balls and strikes And look, it's

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it's part of the technology play in the sport.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
You can't.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
There's so much baseball it's changing that you either you
either go along with the change or you're going to
sit around being upset. And I'm fine with the change.
I think it's good to I mean, if you saw
some of those games that were umpired this year, Wow,
there was some bad umpiring going on balls and strikes.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, we'll be talking a lot too later on, but
I'm glad you brought it up. Sorry interrupted, There no
no sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, we'll be talking more about some of the incidents
that you're reflecting on for sure as the off season
goes on.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Very but yeah, you were right. I'm sorry if I got.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
You off, Now you didn't get me off.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm good, all right, George, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, it's going to be very limited though, I mean
in the big leagues this season, which uh, I think
is a wise thing to do. Take baby steps before
you get into it full time, you know. I just
hope that the umpires that we have now get better
and it helps them in their own development and in

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calling balls and strikes down the road. I don't know
if some of the older guys are going to want
to adapt to it. So I think you could see
a lot of retirements from some of the veteran umpires.
I'm not I have no knowledge on that situation, but
it wouldn't surprise me. And they've lost a lot of
guys in the last four or five years, as you know, Barry,
A lot of the names that we knew for such

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a long time have hung it up. Uh. But the
game has to get better. I mean, you can't have
embarrassing calls. So let's go forward. Let's give it a
try and and see how it develops.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Eric, I think, well, it's probably one of the only
things Rob Manfred has ever handled well during his time
as a Commissioner of Baseball. But I think I think
limiting it is good. I don't think you. I wouldn't
want them to challenge every you. I wouldn't want them
to challenge every single striper ball call because then it

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just kills it would just absolutely kill the product. But
you know, I think it's necessary. You got the technology
to do it. Football football doesn't has been doing it
for years with the challenge system where you get two
challenges on a play and if you if you win it,
you retain it. Baseball has kind of adopted that and
in some ways. But yeah, I think the ball and
the strike call is necessary. We've got the technology to

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do it, and nobody he wants to see the product
ruin because of bad umpiring. I was at a Brewers
game on Labor Day when when the homeplate umpire missed
a clear a clear half swing by by Bryce Harper
and he ultimately got the walk and Pat Murphy got
ejected but it's you know, I think it's necessary. You know, again,

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you don't want any like incident happening because we've seen
it happen too many times where where we've run into
some very ugly problems that can easily that are easily
preventable bye by you by putting the striking ball system
in place where they at least have a chance to
challenge it. If they don't, you know, if they don't
win it and they run out of them and the
cons of being bad, so be it. But at least

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they have they've got a chance rather than none at all.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Katie.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
The NFL has the red flag that they can throw
so many challenges. It's good that baseball is limiting it
to so only so many challenges as well. I get it.
I mean, nobody's perfect, so but what we welcome it
as we have techno, we need to start using it
for the betterment of the sport to get the calls right.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
That's as it's tell Mary and the US.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Everybody will eventually be talking about some of the empires
that were looked upon.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
As individuals that made mistakes. That'll be later in the
offseason as well. Well.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
You want to talk about the ultimate competitor. Okay, Justin
Verlander will qualify as one of those. Towards late September,
he says mother with the F word exploitive. And he
ended up when he exited his final game of twenty
twenty five, which was a ground ball that led to

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a run surrendering her, which for Melvin to take him
out of the game. Berry, let's talk about Justin Verlander
per se. This guy is the ultimate competitor if I
ever saw one. I certainly understand the frustration by utilizing
the language he did. But what are your talks about
Justin Verlander?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Berry?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
And the competitor nature that the guy and you don't
want to see you leave because of a crown ball
obviously doodling error.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's unfortunate.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
Well it is, But you know, this is a first
ballot Hall of Famer. You know, he's a competitor. He's
got you know, he's still got good stuff. I think
he had a lot of tough, tough losses this year,
but he's still got good stuff. It'll be interesting to
see him come back, see if he you know, can
you know, at least end on a good note for

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his career. But uh, yeah, you like competitors, sures is
that way. You know, those guys don't want to come
out of the game, and we don't have that many
of those anymore. You know, most of them are looking
in the dugout.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Do you want me? You want to come out here
and get me?

Speaker 7 (24:44):
So and it's it's good to see, you know, the
Roger Clemens type mentality that it takes to be uh,
you know, a Hall of Fame type pitcher.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
And that's what Verlanders shows you.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
George, Oh yeah, I never would question his desire, his
stamina and his uh you know, fierce competitive nature. Justin
Is is certainly a Hall of Famer. Like you said,
Barry first ballot, He's an incredible individual. He works hard
at what he wants to achieve in his baseball career.

(25:17):
You know, I quite frankly I wish he would have
never left town, but that didn't work out. That very
really does work out anymore with any team. So but
Justin jv yep, I do hope that he makes the
right decision. And you know, the Giants said, I wish
him well. I just hope he can wrap up and
not have a really slacky, sad look season. You know

(25:41):
what I mean, I hope it's a good conclusion to
a wonderful career.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Eric Well, I think you know, there's there's very few
horses in baseball now, I mean, you know not Verlander
is certainly one of them. Sure there is. You could
probably say Garrett cole Is, and you know, I think,
you know, I guess, I guess you could put Tarek
Schoubel in that in that category. Same with the same
with Paul Skeens. But nobody's going deep in ball games anymore.

(26:09):
You're lucky if you get five or six out of
them and then done. But you know, Verlander, he you know,
Verlander like was shown this year that it wasn't a
victory lap, you know, it was a this He was
literally trying to make it work in San Francisco and
try and get them back to the postseason, which unfortunately
it just didn't work out. I think I think Verlander,
you know, would be great on most other staffs, even

(26:31):
if you know, he's cheap at this point in his career,
and you know they you know, you could set you
can get them for nothing, put them out of contender.
He can talk to younger pitchers and you know, he
I think you could still get some innings out of him.
But you know, I think, I think you know Verlander's like,
Verlander is part of a dying breed where I think

(26:51):
eventually it'll be only Garrett Cole who's really the last
of those guys.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Indeed, what can you say about forty two year old
Justin Verlander who has played for twenty seasons in the
major leagues and Scott we cannot We've got a highlight.
He actually has pitched three no hitters in his career.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Right.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
He is a fierce competitor. He always wants to do
his best, going out there, gives it.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
His all and I think with the right team, in
the right situation, he would have had a better year
this past year.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
But I give him kudos because to a pitcher is
not an easy position to play, and you're you're constantly
throwing your with your arm. That's and I think you've
been throwing for twenty years as hard and as fast
as he has. The toll that must have taken on

(28:00):
his arm, I just can't even imagine. But and he
still wants to do it. Kudos for him, Like, and
if he wants to come back, and you know he
can be a mentor and help some of these rookies
and give him insights to the game and what helped
him and stuff like that. So kudos to him.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
All he needs is a team to give m runs for.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
One of the best mentors I've ever seen is if
I have the name of Kenny Rogers with the Tigers,
and he mentored a lot of young pitchers, and I'll
tell you he probably run across Kenny Rodgers in your day, right,
Kenny Rogers to me was unbelievable, wasn't he.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Well I saw him when he was with the Rangers,
so yeah, he was being mentored by a pretty good mentee,
a mentor that year and Nolan Ryan, so he probably
learned something from him.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Again, right, yeah, well, all right, let's go back to
the World Series. It's a very unique stat that I
wanted to bring up. Game seven obviously favored the road
team than there were series at that time. It was
twenty one to nineteen twenty two, nineteen. So let's talk
about the fact that home field doesn't always mean anything,
and it was evident when the Dodgers obviously we're able

(29:12):
to beat the Jade, but now the road team in
Game sevens or twenty two nineteen, it was twenty one nineteen.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
What are your thoughts, Berry.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
I'd still rather be at home that final game, I
will tell you that.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
But you know, let's face the facts. I've talked with
some a lot of baseball fans the last couple of
weeks about the World Series, and all of them say
the same thing.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
Toronto's supposed to win that.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
So you know, that was just one of those games
where the Dodgers got big breaks and Toronto just couldn't
get that final little break they needed.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
So but I'd I'd rather play that final game at home.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
I don't, George, Yeah, I you know, I think one
of the things when you're home in the World Series,
you're so wrapped up in it, and it's hard for
the home team. The ball players especially. They got the relatives,
they got tickets that they've got to put on hold
for different people in their family. There's a lot of

(30:14):
outside noise and commotion. I think for a lot of
the players at home, you know, badgered for this, and
everybody and their brothers probably texting and I'm asking them,
how can you give me some tickets? And that's not
to say that the road team has an advantage. But
you know, but I think just from that standpoint alone,
there's some extra pressure on you. There's no question that

(30:37):
Toronto was in the cat bird seat. They should have
wanted it all. They should have They were coming home,
and they didn't get the job done. And it's really
really sad because I know that franchise has been waiting
a long long time, as we know, to taste the
World Series victory again. But yes, Scott, I think it's
one of those things where you should be at an

(30:58):
advantage being home. You play for that home field advantage,
and maybe some guys just let the distraction get away
get you know, way on them too much.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Not sure, I mean you'd rather be at home in
that situation, Let's be honest. I mean Toronto was right
there with with La.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
At that point.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I mean they had them right where they wanted them,
They had them right in their backyard, and didn't get
the job done. You know, you generally, you know, they
came within a Will Smith spike away from winning from
winning the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
It was.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
It was that close. I mean, talk about being just
having your heart snapped in excruciating fashion. That's probably that's
one thing you know that's one thing that you know
that a lot of fans have nightmares about, and Toronto
certainly will for the until they win another one. But
you know you want to be at home in that spot.
It's not easy playing on the road. Baseball is like

(31:52):
one of those sports where home where home field advantage
actually matters. You know, it's you know it. You know
players said and wi't hear it, but you know they do.
I mean it's hard not to. But in that situation,
you want, you want to be at home. On and
Toronto came within a Will Smith, a Will Smith back,
he'll play away from winning it all, Candy.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
You play the year to get home field advantage. You
want home field advantage. You want to be at home.
You want the crowd to be in it. You want
the crowd to be loud. Let's face it, you know
a lot of a lot of stadiums get really loud.
A lot of stadiums. There are times you can barely
hear others. Obviously though in baseball, like when you're when

(32:41):
you're a pitcher and a catcher, you have signs to
you know, you don't need to be listening to people
as opposed to like on the football field where you're
trying to listen for calls, but you play for home
field advantage. You want to play in front of your crowd.
You want to win it for your crowd, and sometimes
it just doesn't happen. And sometimes it's how the ball

(33:03):
bounces and you know what's going your way? Are you
are you hot? Are you not? Or who's you know,
who's the better pitcher on that night. We've said this
time and time again, there's a reason why you play
the game because any given team can beat anybody on
a given night. So you've got to bring your best,
especially in game seven. And who's more nervous, who's got

(33:26):
the maybe the younger rookies that are more nervous, you know,
or nervous because you've never been there before. You know
that that matters too. Who's been there before and has
done it and doesn't have quite the same nerves Some
people when they are nervous, they don't perform as good.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Well.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Bottom line is dopfield is important in the end and
get it done. Home wasn't sweet homeful the blue Jays,
but not all bads full of blue Jays now because
they signed Dylan Ceco seven years two hundred and ten
million dollars deal. Eric So talks about the contract going
to the Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I've never been to a Dylanc's fan ever, not even
when he was in not even when he was in Chicago.
He's played on you know, it's ever since leaving Chicago.
You think he'd put you think he would be a
good he'd be playing well on a you know, a
seemingly loaded San Diego Padres team that has Manny Machado
for n Ai Tatist Junior among others. However, he's really

(34:27):
you know, aside from maybe twenty twenty four, he's been
mediocre at best. You know, he's you know, Chicago. Sure
he was Chicago, sure he was good. But with San Diego,
where his offense was seemingly better, he was just mediocre.
I'm telling you this is this has, this has the
ability to blow up in the Blue Jays face. I
mean they're like, I mean, yes, they went to the

(34:48):
World Series last year, but they're big free agent signings
of Jeff Hoffman and Anthony Santander blew up in their
face and this one could get worse and hamstrung their
payroll for years to come.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
George.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Well, that's quite a mouthful there, and I appreciate your comments,
mister Katz as usual, And uh, I think you nailed it.
I mean, you know, yeah, you hand out a seven year,
two hundred and ten million dollar contract and we all
know that pictures. You don't know what you're getting, I mean,
and it is unfortunate because we don't know, and because

(35:24):
there are a lot of arm injuries and so forth
and so on. I agree with you, I mean, I
think they basically you've really really put a whole huge
question mark on your future spending and your roster formation.
If you're the Blue Jays, they're hoping they struck gold
with him, you know, but it remains to be saying.

(35:47):
You know, the thing is is that his record has
not been a stellar and his I think he's got
a good attitude and obviously he's bounced around a little bit,
but the Padres didn't get them out of him, and
they should have. So, you know, I think this is
a question mark and I think that well, we have

(36:07):
to wait and see, but that is a huge, huge outlay.
I agree.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Er ownership pays pitchers for strikeouts and hitters for home runs,
and so he struck You know, gold, I think he's
in the top three or four pitches and strikeouts over
the last five seasons. And you know, he's like a
lot of the guys that have good stuff, but you know,

(36:33):
you got to win, you got to win, and.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
He hasn't shown well.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
I guess he's had a couple of seasons above five hundred,
but what was he this year? Eight and twelve or
eight and fourteen. That's a heck of a contract you
can get off of that type of season. But I
like his stuff. I think he's got a shot and
he might turn it around, but I think the downside
is much higher than the upside with him, really, Okay, Candy.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
So on September thirteenth, twenty twenty five, in a game
against the Rockies, struck out Ezekiel Tovar in the fourth
inning to record his two hundredth strikeout of the year,
marking his fifth consecutive two hundred strikeout season. So obviously,

(37:26):
and and he threw a no hitter July twenty twenty,
fifth of twenty twenty four, so obviously he has he
can throw strikes. But his win loss record is sixty
five and fifty eight overall. So he doesn't have a
very commanding win loss record. He has twelve hundred and

(37:47):
thirty one strikeouts. Let's I hope for Toronto's sake that
he can perform to the ability that we know that
we think again that Toronto wants him to and hopefully
that'll help them get over the hump, because that's what
they needed, is pitching.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, the one thing Toronto has going for it, depending
on what happens during free agencies, they certainly have a
lot of good hitters in the lineup. We don't know
what's gonna happen with Boba Chet, but they do have
offensive support, something that Justin Verlander lacked but you're going
to need.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
But again, they're unlike you Berry.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
You know, they pay guys for strikeouts and they're hoping
that this guy can amass enough caves to make it interesting. Well,
we'll go to one more topic before we go to
our first station break, and we'll pass on our condolences
to the family of Sandy Alomar Senior, who died in
mid October on the border nineteen forty three form MLB

(38:44):
player and coach. Very obviously, Sandy Alamar Senior meant a
lot to the game. What are your thoughts about Sandy.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
Well, he's part of the you know, of the bloodlines
major League Baseball. We've got two sons in the in
big leagues. We're in the big leagues, and one of
the Hall of Famer and the other one of a
very good catcher and coach.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Now, so you know, he's he's one of those guys
that his bloodline and and and those.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
Kids will probably have kids that'll get to the big league.
So he was a good ambassador for the game. It's
sorry to hear that he passed away.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
George, Yeah, I mean, you know that that's exactly it.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Berry.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
You know, we talked about the bloodlines and we know
that that means so much in baseball, going back to
the Demagio Boys and all the way to the present
time and cruises and Alamar and uh you know his
three children. They had three kids, and Sandy Junior and
Roberto were the two sons. And uh, yeah, it's tough

(39:49):
to say goodbye to anybody. I mean, this man, really
his whole life has been baseball, and obviously with his
together with his wife Maria and the and the three children.
I mean, you know, the bonding there between dad and sons.
Is just enormous and tremendous for that family. And to
come up and make your way all the way up

(40:09):
to the major leagues is a is a huge achievement.
And he represented himself well as a player and as
a coach and manager and all the things that he did.
And eighty one sounds like it's old, but really it's
not nowadays. And you know he was said saying goodbye
to him October thirteenth, and you know he'll be missed

(40:32):
not only by his family, but lifers in baseball and
you know, people such as yourself, Barry, that have been
around the game for such a long long time in
different circles. Just a dis a loss. It is a
big loss.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Eric.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I think that you know is you know, he's one
of the more known players and the known players in
the game to Gay. Obviously, his son Roberto is a
Hall of Famer, and his son Sandy Jr. I think
I think will be a I think is overdue to
be a big league manager, in my opinion, And I think,
you know, it's tough to say goodbye, but he had

(41:09):
a nice long major league baseball career, both as a
player and coach. And it's really a shame, shame to
see him go, but you know, he has no doubt
given this game a lot Kdy.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Senior made his major league debut September fifteenth, nineteen sixty four,
for the Milwaukee Braves. He last played September thirtieth, nineteen
seventy eight, for the Texas Rangers. He also coached. After retiring,

(41:46):
he became a manager both in his homeland and in
the minor leagues. So he coached, and he even coached
both of his sons for a while. He coached in
the majors for the Chicago Cubs, the Colorado Rockies, and
the San Diego Padres. He actually was a switch hitter

(42:07):
for those of you that don't know that, and he
threw right handed. Great baseball player, you know. And kudos
to him to pass down his legacy and teach his sons.
And then look what kind of crews they had. I mean,
that's just great.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Danny led Peace Maspills a family game.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
It's obvious. Sorry, we'll go to our first piction. Break
go ahead.

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Speaker 1 (44:14):
All right, Time to go on our feature topic of
the night. Why would we talk about Savannah Bananas baseball?
Why not give you a good reason why? Number one,
he sold out nineteen pro stadiums and the last year
alone I talked about the Harlem Globetrotters of basketball.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Berry, did you think if you ever played for the
Savannah Bananas, how much different the game would have been
for you? I mean, let's say that you're an old
school guys.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
With the Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
It's a good interesting topic to talk about during December.
After all, Welcome Back Home Alone in that series and
all these crazy you want so why not throw Savanna Banna?
What do you think very about the Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 7 (44:55):
I think the guy that you know runs the operation
had a great marketing deal. I initially did not like
it because it's sort of a mockery of the game,
but it's a great entertainment. Fans love it. Fans are involved,
there's a time limit on it. There's a lot of
things that they've done. It'll be you know, it's one

(45:19):
thing to be able to have nineteen or twenty openings
and sell out because of the novelty. It'll be interesting
this year. I think this year they're going to have
a league of Banana Baseball. It'll be interesting to see
how well they can keep the fannies in the seats
over the course of one hundred and twenty or thirty games.
But look, I give all kidoes to the guy. And look,

(45:41):
it's also great for these players that couldn't play at
the major league level, couldn't play at the pro level,
and they're able to go out there and have a
good time and the fans have a good time.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
I am all for it.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
In fact, I even told my son that's something he
and I should look at to get a team and
put it in that league with them. So yeah, I'm
I'm for it. I'm not against it. I mean it's
it's certainly, but the more the way we're starting to
play major League baseball, we begin to look a little
more like Banana Savannah banana baseball.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
So we're not far off, no, very.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I haven't seen you laugh like this about the top
of I gotcha, you know your laugh is contagious. Yeah,
what the reality is? It sold out nineteen prosteamums. Can
you imagine how many more they're going to sell out?
That just blows me away. That's why I threw it
in there tonight.

Speaker 7 (46:34):
Well, the owner, the owner of that operation is getting rich,
that's no question. You know, they're putting eighty thousand people
in some of these football stadiums, so they people definitely
like it. And everybody I talk to about it they
love it, you know. So it'll be interesting to see
how how the whole concept goes long term.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Yeah, great stuff, Barry, all right, George.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Yeah, I'm all for it. I think it's great. I
can't wait to see it. They're finally getting a date
in Detroit. The Tigers announced that, I think late in
the previous season that they were going to come here.
I'm not sure yet that the date's been subtled, but
I'm sure it'll sell out. I mean, I'm looking forward
to seeing it too. You know, I followed the Knowland

(47:21):
Goat trotters. I mean as kids when we were growing up,
you know, we'd see them on wide wield of sports
at ABC, and we'd also see them around the world.
They took their act and medical auc Clemon and all
the guys, and that was a great, great shtick and
I really enjoyed that. I saw him in person too
several times. But they said Vanna Bananas. Yeah, I mean

(47:43):
I like the way they what you said, very like
they're making a mockery of the normal game that we're
used to, obviously that we grew up on. But I
think it's all fun and it attracts a different audience
as well. I think it's fun. I love it. I
can't wait to see them.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Yeah, the Lovetrownders.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
On my birthday at the old Olympia Stadium, my dad
took myself. Yeah and a family was unbelievable to watch,
and I looked forward to doing.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Actually, the guy who's doing the entertainment.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Savannah Bananas, used to do it for the day, Tilda Tortugos,
and he got that gig.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Some more power to him.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Wow, Eric, I think you know, it's great for people
who like it. You know, it's different, it's you know,
the crowd. They get the crowd involved, and they certainly
a different way of playing baseball, and it's great. I
just think it's great entertainment all around. Jesse Cole has
clearly worked worked hard to make it what it is.
I mean, let's let's be honest. The guy, the guy
built it up all by himself. So you know, as

(48:38):
far as him getting rich, though, he deserves every dollar
for for the fact that he seemingly sells out everything
that every every stadium he plays into the point where
people have to become waitlisted because they because they can't
get a ticket because there's just so much interest in
surrounding it.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Andy.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
So they actually started in a regular league and then
they decided to break out once it became real popular.
In twenty sixteen, the Bananas ended their inaugural season as
the first seed in the CPL West Division, earning home
field advantage for the first two games of the playoffs.

(49:20):
In Game one they won and the into they won
as well, so they have a championship. In twenty eighteen,
the team created the Alternative Banana Ball rule set and
played its first interra squad exhibition game using the format.
They've changed now obviously they've added people. In twenty twenty three,

(49:43):
Jocelyn Allo became the first woman to play for the Bananas,
getting in at bat in one game, and then in
twenty twenty four, the team announced that Alo had become
the first female member of the Bananas and signed a
one month contract. As of twenty two, twenty three, now
I realized that was two years ago. The team has

(50:04):
over six million followers on TikTok, more than any MLB team,
and in twenty twenty five, they had more than ten
point five million followers on TikTok, more than molb's official account. Obviously,
they've done a world tour. They've played all over. In

(50:28):
twenty twenty five, they played games in forty different cities,
including three NFL stadiums and seventeen MLB stadiums. Their first
NFL game was at Raymond James Stadium here in Tampa, Florida,
where they played in front of a sold out sixty
five thousand. On April twenty six, the Bananas and the

(50:51):
Party Animals played a game in front of eighty one
thousand people at Clemson University's Memorial Stadium. In August, they
signed Kelsey Wittmore, one of the highest profile professional women
baseball players.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
Great Succady starts let me Let me just add this
one thing that makes it very could get very interesting.
You know, they had a draft this year and the
first player picked in the draft was Jackie Bradley Jr.
So you got a big league guy who's still, you know,
got capabilities, who's going to that league. Now, if they're
able to pay people the marginal guys, they may be

(51:28):
able to get some marginal guys to go play in
that league. It should be it could get interesting interesting.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
All right, very appreciate the information. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
This journalism think isn't so bad for you, is it, Verry?
I like when you go ahead throw those little nugguys.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
They're doing good.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
We got ourselves a rising star in the journalism. Of
course you were. Your managerial stuff is great. What you've
done outside of baseball is even better. But now we
got them. Welcome to the journalism field, Chair, Barry, great dog,
Jackie Bradley.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
I'll leave the journalism to you journalists.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
And I'll leave all the expertise to you, because I
know you've got plenty of it. Anyway, Well, we're gonna
go from the Banana Bananas the trade Turner who was
the first filly in sixty seven years to win the
National League Banning title since Ritchie Ashburn in nineteen fifty eight,
and three or four average is also the lowest banning
everage to win the title in NL history. Trade Turner

(52:25):
Barry three h four. That was enough to get it done.

Speaker 6 (52:29):
Well, he's one of your natives from Florida.

Speaker 7 (52:32):
He's played at North Carolina State, so I got to
see him early on in his career here in North Carolina.
I mean, obviously he's a very accomplished player. I think
the embarrassing thing for Major League Baseball is I think
he was the only guy hit three hundred in the
league this year. Might have been one of the guy
hit three hundred on the nose, I can't remember. But
they're gonna have to, you know, they're gonna have to

(52:53):
address that somehow. I know pitching is is different because
you got to see three or four five six bait pitchers.

Speaker 6 (53:00):
In a game nowadays. But that's three or four is
a it's not a real good average. We went in
the batting title with.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
George.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
Yeah, he's got a great future ahead of him, no
question about it. You know, he's only thirty two and
he's done a really good job obviously in his professional career.
Three time All Star and two time in OL batting
champion as well. And I've always liked him. I think
he's a good player. He's he's definitely somebody that you

(53:34):
want on your side. And you know, the Phillies they
they had their chances again this year, they just have
not been able to cross over that goal line, as
the saying goes in another sport. But certainly Trey Turner
has been a great help and a great athlete, not
to mention you know his you know, previous stops in

(53:56):
Washington and with the LA Dodgers. But I think that
basically it's he's one of the drawing cards. You know,
if you want to go see a team, you want
to go see a winner. Boy, you watch him and
he'll he'll show you all.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I mean, he's he's a terrific player. There's a reason
the Phillies gave him that nice long, that long contract,
and he's proven to be you know, he really balances
out the lineup well's he can steal and he can
you know, he's very he's a very good contact hitter.
I mean, if you hit, if he hits one, hits
one to the corner, it's gonna be three, it's gonna
be three bases for sure. But yeah, he's you know,

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he's he's a good player. I mean, I mean obviously
batting average though, and baseball has become discarded, if you will,
and I wish, I wish it would be. You know
what it was back when I was growing up, is
like when you'd have multiple leaders batting in the three
hundreds and trying to win the title. Now it's pretty
much become an afterthought because no one really hits for

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average anymore.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Right, interesting points, Eric great stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
In twenty twenty one, he hit for the cycle a
third time, tying MLB's record for career cycles, and he
also had one hundred career home runs that year. A
couple of the things that he's done as in the
Phillies is In August August eighteenth of twenty twenty five,

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he recorded his fifteen hundredth career hit when he hit
a three run home run in the third inning. He
became the six hundred and seventy first person in Major
League Baseball to reach that milestone, joining twenty three other
active players, including his teammates Bryce Harper and Nick Casilanos.

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So he's done. He ended twenty twenty three with thirty
stolen bases without being caught, which is an achievement. That
set a new record for most steals without being thrown
out throughout a single season. So he's got speed and
he can hit. He's a good player.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, he's sure as well. More power to him. Three
h four got a banning title. You can't take banning
titles way, no matter what happened three four, So no
more power to him. Nick cashianles, we talk about Amblottle,
but he's got a contract that's simply not tradable. Otherwise
I think it could be gone by now, but we'll
have more information after the Baseball Winter meetings. It's interesting
how everyone brought him up. So all right, Barry, Well,

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we'll talk about the Rockies. The rehiring interim manager Warren
Shaffer of the Rockies went thirty sets up eighty six
downs under his managing since May eleven, the franchise worst
record of forty three and one nineteen. They were the
last team without a manager. It's really a tough job
when you think about if you're a manager of a
coved at and former Tigers manager Jim Leland was a

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one and done up in Colorado. So Warren Schafer was
he the only one that wanted to take the job,
or I mean, this is a job that probably nobody wanted.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
When I was managing in the minor leagues, we had
a guy with I had known from the Chicago Cubs
who managed in the minor leagues, probably twenty or twenty
five years, named Walt Dixon. And Walt told me something
who I was feeling pretty good about my abilities as
a manager, and he told me one time. He said, look,
let me explain how managing works. When you got the horses,
you win, and when you got the mules, you lose.

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They got a lot of mules and they ain't gonna
win for a long time.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
Unlet's say, get some more horses.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Great line.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I hope we get a short of that one, Candy,
because then we got to make sure and not create
one that was a good one.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Berry.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I can't keep us straight fans out of that one.
You get, Berry, you had me a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
I keep a straight feature.

Speaker 6 (57:52):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Uh, great, don't worry.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I'll make sure I set you up pretty well in
a couple of weeks and then into twenty sixth or
some of this stuff as you continue to get had
more raf. Thanks though, very all right, Shorge, you top
very last one about the Mules.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
I can't really, I can't really top that one.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Man.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Oh, the Rockies. They're suffering. They've been suffering for so
many seasons now, and you know, they promoted Schaefer and uh,
you know, I tell you what did the guy. It
takes a lot of gumption. Boy, it's a tough situation there.
Even one hundred and twenty two games he had this year,
he only won thirty six as their skipper, coming in

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of course, after they fired the last guy there in
back in May. I you know, I give him credit.
He's very young at it, not a whole lot of experience,
but he's been in the Rockies organization as a coach,
and he's been a manager of course in the minor leagues,
which helps. And uh, I don't know, I think it'll

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be interesting to see, but they do need the horses.
They've they've got a severe lack of talent on that roster.
And the Rockies really they haven't been a name or
a team to reckon with for many, many many years.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I mean I mean, we're seeing more and more nowadays
where managers and executives aren't just take looking at the
job as one to thirty, they're actually looking at situations.
That's why you're seeing some of these top job search
for like president Baseball operation, general managers and managers and
the like extend out longer because guys are looking are

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prioritizing job security over being the head honcho in charge.
It's why we saw before the Red Sox eventually hired
Craig Breslo, they were having trouble fighting somebody is because
they can't that general manager can't hire his own guy.
They have people in that front office that probably predate
theo Epstein and you know, because you can't hire your
own people nowadays. You know, with the Rockies, you're not

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gonna You're it's just it's just a hard job. It's
an organization that that's stuck both figuratively and literally in
the in the dinosaur age of baseball. They don't have analytics,
which would be extremely helpful when it comes to pitchers,
and you know, who can potentially pitch at the al
at that level of altitude, and you know, no free

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agent wants to go there, especially especially pitchers, so they
have to develop their own which also has some growing
pains there. And you know, they just you know the
outside of course field, though their hitters historically have not
been good away from that ballpark. So it's an organization
that's that's complete mess. Warren Shaper was already there, so
essentially they didn't even interview him. They essentially said, here,

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you can take over the club, I guess, and and
and go at it. But you know, this is an
organization that needs modernization and it's going to take a while.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
You know, last year they did not have a good season.
I mean, the record, his managerial record is thirty six
and eighty six. So the only place to go is up.
I mean, so hopefully he can do it. He's gonna
need obviously better, better compliment of players in order to

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do that. You know, he he's been around that organization.
I mean, he was drafted in the thirty eighth round
of the two thousand and seven draft by the Rockies.
So he played in minor league baseball for the Rockies
organization for six seasons, and after he retired, he remained
in the Rockies organization as a coach. So it's what

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he knows. So hopefully he can turn the ship around
and have some success.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Yeah, hopefully the only one that obviously, thankless, job, good luck.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
That's all I can taya. Good good luck.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Because when you got mules, if you don't have anything horses,
you don't have anything in between. Warrant good luck. That's
all I can tell you. The Red Sox are reported
league acquiring Sonny Gray in a trade with the Saint
Louis Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Eric, what are your thoughts about this?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
You know, they need a number two pitcher, right behind
Garrick Crochet, and at this point in his career, son
Sonny Gray is at number three on a great day.
He really only with the Saint Louis Cardinals, he really
was only mediocre at best. And the Cardinals are essentially
paying the Red Sox to take them, which generally those
deals almost never almost never work out, or at the

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very or at the very most, they're a mixed bag.
But Sonny Gray, he's he's you know, at this point,
he's like he's in his mid I think he's thirty six,
so he's starting to approach retirement. I don't he hasn't
pitched well in the American League East during his career,
where he's again been mediocre, and that's the division he's
going to be in to compete. And you know, aside

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from you know, aside from that year in a year,
in that twenty twenty three year in Minnesota, you know,
he's just he's just mediocre, and he's he's better off
as a third or fourth starter. And the Red Sox
shouldn't be banking on him to be the number two
starter when you know, they say when he couldn't when
he couldn't really pitch well at the top of the

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rotation with the Cardinals, and you know, they're just, you know,
I think it's the wrong move. I mean, sure, he's
a veteran arm, but you know, he's more he's more
or less a three or four at this point in
his career.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
George, Yeah, Sonny Gray, Well, again, you know, we're pitching starved.
Are so many of our teams are pitching starved as
we know, and they need they need some pitching help.
Obviously the Red Sox do, and that's why they went
out and made this deal. You know what they say,

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it's fourth seam fastball from ninety to ninety five. You know,
a slider. You know, he's he's been a decent pitcher,
not always effective obviously, and you can tell by his record,
but yeah, there were three times All Star. But yeah,
and you're right, Katsy, that's the big one that was

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with Minnesota in twenty twenty three is best year. I
wish him well, but I think that I think it
is going to be it's going to be a wait
and see because if they expect him to get fifteen
wins or even close to that, that's that's a bit
of a stretch for me too as well.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
He's thirty six years old, so that's a problem.

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
And he's not a big guy. He's a little guy.
So but he can spend the ball. He can you know,
it's a good breaking ball. And they're looking for that
lightning in the bottle, hope to get a year out
of him. I just I just don't like to make
up that Red Sox team. It just doesn't seem like,
you know, the teams that they've had in the past

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that could could actually be real contender.

Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
So and they.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
Let Giolito go, so they're just short him pitching.

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
So I don't know, you know, they got one good
guy to the.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
Top of the top of the roster there and then
the rest of them are back.

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
To the mule days go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Ahead, So okay, so for Saint Louis. In twenty twenty three,
he signed a three year contract for seventy five million.
The deal also included a no trade clause option for
up until twenty twenty seven. On June twenty seventh to

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twenty twenty five, Gray pitched Emattox, throwing only eighty nine
pitches in a complete game shutout versus the Cleveland Guardians
with eleven strikeouts, no walks, and only one hit allowed.
After the season, he indicated that he was willing to
waive his no trade clause to play for a contending team.

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Incomes the Boston Red Sex. So it'll be interesting to
see if he can get back to his old self
and you know, lower that e RA and pitch well
for Boston. It remains to be seen. Sometimes what you
need is a change of scenery.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Well, I'll'll say about him, good luck lowering that e
RA at Fenway Park.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
It should it should be noted too, he's given up
forty six home runs the past the past two seasons
while while pitching like it primarily and like pitch a
friendly ballparks in the National League Central. I assure you
that the risk of the American League East is going
to look forward to feasting on him, particularly at Fenway Park,
where guys will will bang it off the monster all
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Well, Eric, I'll say this and returning to you, thanks
for for obviously supporting my plane fen Lay Park. All right,
three more tops get to tonight, one of which we're
gonna go back into history. How about to ask for
a lot of us old people that can appreciate it.
But back on July first, nineteen seventy three, guy by
name of Lewis Apparatio steals his five hundred bag with

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the Boston Red Sox. Obviously, Apparicios stolen bases, the highest
total in the American League since Eddie Collins retired in
nineteen thirty. You know, I get away with the top
back berry with somebody like Eric. This kid maybe thirty
years old, but he's got the mindset of who knows
what talks about Lewis Aparaicio.

Speaker 7 (01:07:27):
Hall of famer. You know, so he was a great
player I played. I guess they won a championship at
the Chicago I believe with him on the ball club,
so you know, never got to see him play, was
before my time, but I heard a lot of good
things about it, especially from the kids from Venezuela, and
again know, they looked up to him greatly. He was

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everything I understand, a real gentleman too, and that's a
good thing, so I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah, I don't like to bring a couple of these
history and things up, Barry, because a lot of baseball
we all know is all predigan On Lewis came out
across George.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Yeah, Louis Aparicio, I saw him a couple of times.
You know, I was very young at the time when
he played for the Orioles and the White Sox and
the Red Sox. I really think that this man was
just a great, great asset for the game. I mean,
thirteen time All Star. I mean, you know that you're

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in rarefied air when you start talking about being an
All Star for thirteen times, and the way he would
go about stealing those bases. They gave pitchers to fits,
oh my god, fits and more fits. And the Tigers
certainly at that time, could not stop his running and
his stealing. A basis of Baseball Hall of Fame back
in nineteen eighty four. All very very deserving, man. I'm

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glad that that you brought him up, Scott, because he
is one of the one of the great great players
from the yesteryear when we had we had a smaller
league and we had a lot of outstanding owners and
bass Steelers back in those days too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Eric, I mean Louis, I know of him, just being
being from the Chicago area. Him and Nelly Fox formed
one of the best double play combinations in in baseball.
He you know, he's his number is retired by the
White Sox. He was part of the famous Go Go
White Sox during that time too. He's also famous for
prolonging the prolonging the curse of the Bambino and George

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probably George and Scott probably remember this was when he
was rounding the when he was rounding the bag, he
fell over and Carl and Carl Yastremsky got tagged out,
which cost the Red Sox a chance at at the playoffs.
It happened around the time where Scott's hair was very
long and probably brown and and he and so but yes,
hall of famer for sure. Thirteen time all started that

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guy get hit and he and he could hit them
all over the place, and he had tremendous speed. He's
a very deserving All of Famer. But you know, in
Boston though, he's best remembered though for when he tripped
when he tripped rounding rounding third base and Carlis Stempsky
got tagged out, costing the Red Sox in nineteen seventy
two for a shot in a shot at the playoffs.

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It was against the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
No less too pity.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
Well you realize, mister Eric who he actually stole that base,
His five hundredth base stolen base was on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
You know, No, I don't, oh gosh, hmm, Milwaukee Brewers.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
I see he His historic stolen base came in the
sixth inning of the first game of a doubleheader against
the Brewers at Fenway Park. His two out single plated
Orlando suppeda for the Red Sox. Then a Riccio stole
second base off pitcher Jim Coban and catcher Ellie Rodriguez.
He was two for four at the plate in that opener,

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and he played, and he played the entire second game
as well. He has some amazing He retired with a
record two thousand, five hundred eighty one games played at shortstop,
a standard he would hold until fellow venzuel and omarvis
Quez passed him in two thousand and eight. He never

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he never played a position other than shortstop in the
Big leagues, and he also retired with records for most
double plays by a shortstop and most assist by a shortstop.
He still holds the Big League record for most consecutive
seasons leading the league's in stolen bases nine from nineteen

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fifty six to sixty four. Yes, he retired with five
hundred and six steals, two six hundred and seventy seven hits,
thirteen one hundred and thirty five runs scored. He amassed
thirteen All Star Games selections, won nine Gold Glove Awards,
and was named the nineteen fifty six AL Rookie of

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the Year. He was elected to the Hall of Fame
back in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
My line is a heck of a player. Any stants
more than back it up. All right, we'll go back
in history again. This time we have no hir of
flat perfect game. By July twenty eighth, nineteen ninety one,
Dennis Martinez was a perfect game he shut down the
Dodgers and leagues Jansos they win at Dodgers Stadium. Thoughts

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about Dennis Martinez, Bearer.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Well, Martinez had good stuff. You know, he was a
good breaking ball guy. He threw a lot of high fastballs,
and you know, he had a rebound of his career
with the Expos. He started off with the orioles, I believe,
and I think I saw him. Actually I think I
hit against him with the orioles. My recollection. My brains
were getting a little old, but uh yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
Remember him.

Speaker 7 (01:12:58):
And then he had a little fall off, but he
had a currents there in Montreal, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
George, Yeah, that was a very special anytime you could
throw a perfect game, Oh my god, talk about special. Yeah,
nine innings, no hits, no runs of chorus, no walks either,
and he had five strikeouts in that game. It was
at I believe it was at Dodger Stadium. That was
a road game for for him and the Expos and

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Dennis Martinez. Yeah, I always care. I always thought highly
of him. I mean, he's colorful a little bit, and
he's uh, he certainly had a wonderful, wonderful game. But listen, listen,
look at some of these batters on his team back then.
It was Larry Walker, Tim Wallack, Ivan Calderon, Dave Martinez,
Marquise Grissom, you know, he and Deshant de Shields, Delano

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Deshields and those were his teammates in that game. And
I'm sure everybody out just was totally totally convinced that
this is not gonna happen, because I'll tell you what
you know, no hitters are tough enough, but throw the
perfect game is unbelievable. And by the way, for you
trivia buffs, I'll tell you this, Larry Poncino was the

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home play umpar that night. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
George, you know to trying to hashtag Larry Poncino.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Do you know anything about handbagging? Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
learn how to do that. That may be your homework
when and should you ever come back on the show
to google Larry Pansino because I had news very I
don't know how many people know of Churs. Candy can
always research the guy. But because she researches everything, all right,
there are some thoughts about the perfect Game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I mean, Dennis Martinez is one of the better pitchers
during the seventies with the Oriols. He also helped them
win the win the World Series in nineteen seventy nine,
and then kind of kind of unfortunately fell on some
hard times later later a little bit, a little bit
later on in Baltimore before having a resurgence and in Montreal.
I mean, it's you know, there's only twenty four of

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these said that I've been thrown and they only happened
every so often. But the fact that his name is
on the list, it's pretty good. Also, he's you know,
he's a very accomplished, accomplished pitcher by by in his
own right, Candy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
What to say, what to say, what to say. He
was the first Latin American born pitcher to pitch a
perfect game. He struck out five batters through ninety six pitches,
sixty six of them for strikes. He was actually the
first first Nika Roguin to play in the majors as well.

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I actually remember seeing him play, seeing him pitch, so
he was he was a good pitcher. Yeah, I think
that's I mean, if you look at his career, anytime
a pitcher throws a no hitter, you know they're good.
And they have good stuff because that is is rare,

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So kudos to him for doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I had to know here, Candy. The bottom line is
through a perfect game too, though there even fewer. All
you have to really do when you think of Danis
Martinez and the exposing totality, it's a shame that the
nineteen ninety four strike till baseball in Montreal.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
We'll talk about that later on, but Dannis Martinez a
heck of a picture. That's for sure a final topic
of the night. In a really good one show. Heyl
time he's going to play for a team Japan in
the twenty twenty six or old Baseball Classic periods and
thoughts about the show, hey man representing Japan yet again.

Speaker 7 (01:16:44):
Well, I think that's natural for him to go back there,
and I think it's it's good to see him compete
against the American teams hopefully well you know, we'll feeld
a good team.

Speaker 6 (01:16:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
I think the biggest moment in the in that World
champions Ship Classic, I can't remember what they exactly call
it was, you know, him pitching its trout, you know,
get throwing a slider three two slider, get them out
strack him out in the ball game.

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
So that was that was a great moment. Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
You know, I think that's in Japan will be tough.
You know they let's face it, the Dodgers don't win
the World Series. They're Japanese players. So I think, you know,
the Japanese league and their star players that kind of
have come into their.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Own now, right being a catcher like you or and
I was one, but not at the major leagues like you.
Do you imagine catching a guy like sho Hal tiny Berry.

Speaker 7 (01:17:39):
Well yeah, but I mean, you know, you know, catching
the guys that throw hard, throw hard, and guys that
throw breaking balls, throw breaking balls. It doesn't that part
doesn't really change. I mean, you know, the challenging part
about catching is catching a knuckleballer.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
The rest of them are easy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
How do you think you want to communicated with the
language barrier or do you just with the fingers out
there and they got to figure it out?

Speaker 7 (01:18:02):
His universal I don't know that there is a language
barrier with him from what I understand. When he's with
his when he's with his players, he speaks English, and
when he gets on TV, I guess he doesn't want to,
you know, make any mistakes with the language.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
So I don't know there's a big barrier with him.

Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
I think he's he's he's smart enough that he's learned
to speak English.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Good points.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
I like that, very great stuff, Okay, George, Well, yeah,
to me, it was a no brainer. You know. He
he's such a demand. He's the number one baseball player
in the world, and would have been a shame if
he would have bypassed the World Baseball Classic in twenty
twenty six. That's going to be a great, great set

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of games, I'm telling you. You know, of course, his
division is, you know, more of the Asia Division. I
think they're doing games, aren't they over there first in
Tokyo or wherever before they come to the United States
for the next several rounds. But I yeah, he's just unbelievable.
It should be so much fun watching him and playing

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in that World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Can't wait, Eric, I mean, no brainer that he's back there.
I mean, he's the best player, he's arguably the best
player in the world. He's at least he's at least
up there. And you know it's you know, yeah, you
gotta he's almost like you gotta have him in there.
I mean, you're talking about showcasing you know the best talents,
and shoe Hey Otani is certainly one, and you know

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you you just you just got to put him in there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Lol. Depole Park doesn't sell up for the Maryland.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
But the one thing I'll tell you, one of my colleagues,
Gabriel Garcia, says, you know what, when it comes to
World Baseball Classic, that's another animal. I'm happy to say,
show hey play that. You always know that Japan is
gonna win it a lot of years because they have
an awful lot of great talent. For sure, de Park
Miami Marlands will win because they get to sell some
tickets and draw some revenue into that ball park.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Katie, you have to find a word on the.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
So. In response to what George was saying, San Juan,
Puerto Rico will host Pool A, Houston, Texas Minute Made
Park or Dakin Park will host Pool B. Tokyo, Japan,

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the Tokyo Dome will host Pool C. Sho Hey Otani
plays in pool CE so yes, he will start in Tokyo, Japan.
Now if they advance loan Depot Park here in Miami,
Florida will host Pool D and the semi finals and

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the championship game. Houston will also host some quarterfinal games,
so they get quarterfinals, Miami gets the semi finals and
the championship game. So show hey, will at least start
in Tokyo. Question is will he make it to Miami?
Remains to be seen and the classic starts. I believe it's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
March fifth, twenty twenty six. O, Kay, Kady, show hey,
Okhani your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Hey, he it's gonna be great for him to start
out in his home country like that, to him has
got to be great, and his country is gonna go
nuts because, let's face it, wherever he goes, we've seen
an uptick in all kinds of media that want to
cover him, and they come from all over, especially Tokyo

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and Japan to cover him. So here they'll be able
to stay at home and cover him, and that that'll
be a treat for people that live in Japan.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Well, Kady, and I got a taste of what it
was like out in Arizona when Tim mead obviously with
the Angels for sure, So the Japanese people.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Go ahead, Eric, I was gonna say too, the reason
why Japan's so good every year in the World Baseball
Class sick is because they actually play baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
There we go, that's great stuff. We'll I'll tell you
one hundred and eighth since in baseball talk great children
with this group.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Before having this group back.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
There'll be two more shows left in December, we'll take
a break over the holidays, and then we'll pick it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Up after the first of the year. After the first thing,
you can start looking.

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At more and more Hall of Fame engines about players
and all the veterans and all these other committees putting
people in so a lot of the things.

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We have to look forward to it a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Two more good episodes and then next week with the
week after, we'll have will be the last one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
And then we'll begin to pick it up after that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
So Baseball Winner meaning is coming up a great job
by this group, and look forward to continuing with some
of the offseasons double and sprinkle some history as well.
So with that said that I was wrapping up a show,
but not doesn't totally wrap it up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Eric. Let everybody know how they get ahold of you.

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You can follow me on my Twitter account at sports
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getting criticized on there that I don't like, I probably
don't like them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
They go, Barry Elis horses but not mules too, Okay,
all right.

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George, Yeah, you can find me in the pages of
the South Florida Tribune under the contributor section. And you've
been covering sports for over forty five years here in
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Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
All right, we'll go to my partner, Berryfoot, my battery mate, Barry.

Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
Go ahead, you can find me here on Monday nights
at eight o'clock. I'll be here there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
You go, my battery mate. I only knowing the guy
since what eighty four? Is that all have been very
a long.

Speaker 7 (01:23:43):
Time in a while, you know, even in the South,
that looks like forty some years, So it does a
long time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Barry is one of my favorite people. Everybody. We'll get
to hang out every Monday night. Oh yeah, I appreciate
you too, more than you'll ever know. R Kadie One
last station break self.

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Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Back to you, Scott, and by the way, the certain
night sports rap continues. Mike Santiles will be in the house.
Looking forward to having them as well. We'll talk Thursday
night hockey, Monday night baseball, Barry and I, Eric Candy,
George and others as well. Warren Brewster has made some
stuff and Trent Clark so mean while that does it
for this edition one hundred eighty stitches Baseball Talk. Gladly

(01:26:46):
to talk more baseball, look forward to doing it again.
So meanwhile, on behalf of Eric Katz Candy, I'm Blake, George,
Icorn and Bury.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
My mattery mate foot. Okay, well, thank you very much
for joying us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
I definitely the one thing I'll take away is I
definitely know that difference between horses and mules, and Barry
certainly made sure that he definitely drove that message home.
So I'll be curious to see what the response will
be from all you horse and mule fans out there.
I also discover that Barry is a lot more of
a broadcaster than imagine, because he's getting better with every
show and I'm just glad he's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
On my team. That's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
So that said, that does it for us tonight, Well
you will Tomorrow night it'll be under we'll have Inside
that picked in a lot of football news tomorrow and
of course Wednesday night there'll be some football as well.
Have a lot, So stay with us on a network.
So meanwhile, the half of Eric, Candy, George and Berry
min Scott Morgan, I thank you for joining us. See
you next Monday night at eight o'clock pm each your

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time tonight and every great week everybody by now, thank you,
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