Shohei Ohtani's Long-Awaited Return is Tonight!

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Have been Monday and number two everybody. Earlier tonight we
had the Professor and the pupil. Now I have an
All Star cat that's before the All Star Game. On
one hundred and eighth Stitches Baseball Talk, I want to
welcome J. D. Watt, a Southern Friede gentlemen to the
Big Baseball Show.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't know how good my Southern accident. Once upon time, though,
I did live in the Carolinas, and I used to
go over the Cracker Barrel and buy some of those
Southern books I could try to blend in. But I
was very good at because Yankee do the Wold and
Dandy in the Piedmont area. But we had a lot
of phone working with the Gastonia Rangers back in nineteen
eighty seven when I was a director of public release
for a team that had Sammy so so on it.

(01:02):
With that said, we do have a loaded show tonight
showing Tonnie's long awaited return is tonight. Let's welcome the
cast of characters they have. Eric Cash is a regular
on the show. Glad to have you on, Eric, and
Kamkeavili comes on from time to time, and tonight her
is her time to time to come on.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Great to be here. Love to talk some baseball talk
with you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And George Iikorn have been around with me for four
and a half decades and counting. Welcome back to me.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
That's all you've You've put up with me for a
long time.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's true. But you know what we're keeping wrong. It's
all right. There's a reason why I keep you around.
Your loyal your family, your brother, even though I have
to use a really seriously really a lot of times
with you when you get out of line. But for
the most part, it's okay. You know, we're working on
building your social media up all right. And Trent Clark,
our resident baseball analysts and work and just let everybody

(01:55):
know I'm going out there working on some higher more
baseball people. Welcome back, Trent.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Always good to be here and laughing out leave.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
So pride, gentlemen, making the debut. What you're talking about
being on the Big Bay show.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Man, it's fantastic. You just gave me big news starting
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(02:32):
how baseball is weird the other day for Greeny Sports Media,
and so I am so excited. Baseball is my domain.
And listen, I've got my notepad ready, I've got my
crayons out. I can't wait to take notes with Eric
and Trent and George and you and Candy this evening. Man,

(02:53):
let's get into this baseball stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
We're gonna do exactly. Kate sysk welcome back to a
big show. Not totally hear the talk praise because there's
season over all out. Okay, I don't know if we
have a lot of race talk, but we're glad to
have Kane Sisk and a big show. Glad to have
Kane says gone there. Got to make sure. I have
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that list and then you can reshare the content. But meanwhile,
we're glad to have you on here. And there's always
an open opportunity to bring on as a guest on
any of our many many shows that we're adding a
couple more Stay two for announcements forth coming. All right,
well we have a lot to get to, so they
with us. There is a lot to talk about since
around the show, Hey O Tani kick as our shows

(03:38):
talks about show Hayes show, Hey O Tani's long awaited
return tonight. If we're gonna throw a little bit of
trivia out there for you, And that's just a catcher.
Can anybody need the catcher who struck out show? Heyo Tani?
There's one catcher that dead man.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
I know he played for the Oakland Athletics.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh yeah, uh all right, well that's okay, never mind.
He he's a lot smart, he's a quick study. You know.
The guy is actually Johnny Pareda of the Oakland age.
So there you go. Oh Eric, some talks about Johnny
Parieda being a trivia question. All right, Southern Pride, great,
great comeback.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
I mean, how often do you does a position player
get to strike out? Sho Otani probably probably never gonna
happen again, considering he crushes just about every every other
pitcher in baseball from the including the very best the
game has.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
To offer, right, Candy, It's rare.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
That you see a catcher throwing to a pitcher in
the first place, like we saw it this weekend. Get
we saw, wasn't it Jake Rogers was pitching for the Tigers,
because normally that means that they're not doing well, that
you're throwing in a position player to pitch. But uh, hey, whatever,
you know, show Hay is showing show Hay and he's

(04:58):
gonna make his money whether he is. Is it batty
or pitching?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, all right, tell her pride. You went out there
and tip it and all your thoughts about it.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Oh well, no, like I literally just sent it in
the chat. No, I wasn't trying to tip it my back.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I thought it was.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
I know, I know, and I'm kidding back. I love it.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I love it. Literally, I thought it was a trivia question.
I didn't know. I didn't know it was cool. But
this stuff though, with that being the player, like, I
love it when position players pitch. I was a position
player that pitched. And the name of the show is

(05:41):
one hundred and eight Stitches of the Baseball, And it
seems to be that that is the one constant is
the baseball. The sport changes, the way you play it changes,
and I love teams that are low paid, like Detroit
and things like that. I have a romance with baseball.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, great stuff. That's all you're on here, A little
bit passion this guy, what do you guys? You guys
are gonna give him the thumbs up here if you
want a future episode, but you have a full This
guy's gonna be on every show anyways. They already got
an overwhelming thumbs up on Inside the Pigskin, and now
we just get the baseball report card later that. All right, Trent,
youres talks about show hal tony Bee and struck out

(06:23):
by a catcher. By the way, I played the position
and loved it best in the position defensively, I comply. Well,
begin my concentration was what it was Trent talks about.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I mean, for me, every one of these athletes
was a pitcher, probably until they were a senior in
high school. Right like they were already the strongest, throw
hard fast, super powerful. Very few players were pigeon hole
is like a shortstop, only they were. They were also
usually a pitcher or a closer or something in college
and high school because they could throw hard and so

(06:55):
to get back on the bump after you probably specialized
for six or seven years, and like, obviously the game's
out of hand. You don't want to use your your bullpen,
so you're throwing and and it's usually volunteer, like the
man who's like, hey, anyone want to go in there,
and you know, tote the rubber and someone raises their
hand and it's a it's a kick. And you know,

(07:15):
we've seen guys hurt their arms by the way doing this,
like position guys. I think jose Kenzeko hurt his arm.
There's been people that have done it and it hasn't
worked out well. They've gotten a little wiser to be like, hey,
you're just going in there the filler. You don't need
to go in there and start throwing you know, cutters
and breaking balls going there and like just just get
the outs. Like and so it's a lot of fun

(07:36):
when you see that. I think the guy should just
stop his pitching career clearly from there. And he's always
going to be the guy who's like, I don't know
if you know or not, but I struck out Tani right,
come on, Like it's it's always going to be a
claim to fame for him forever.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
It'll be awesome, all right, George, Well, yeah, it is
a very good claim to fame. That's for darn sure.
That it doesn't happen very often, as we know, and
like you guys mentioned just the other day in Detroit
they use Jake Rogers to catcher to pitch one inning,
So it does happen. I'm not a big fan of
it because it usually means the team you're following is

(08:09):
playing horses, you know what, They've got to bring somebody
in there to close it out. And it happens too
much in Motown. It has happened too much in the
last five six years with some bad teams. But anyways,
hats off to the guy. What a great job to
go down in history. Tell your kids and grand kids,
I struck out, Oh Doddie, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'll tell you if I were him, I make sure
I put that baseball in a little bit of a showcase,
because that's what he can do. I stuck out show Hey.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
There is a factor for that, right, for sure.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
There is.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
As there's a general there's a general rule, as George said,
like if a position guy's in the game, it's either
an up fifteen or down fifteen situation, right, so it
means there's a it means you're down at least two touchdowns.
So like, it's never good when you're saying position. People
don't the reber right, Ye have.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
The closest thing on rules really what it is? Yeah, yeah,
I don't have them, but that's the closest thing to
go out there do it well. A lot of topics
get to but I had a feeling this one was
gonna get some people. We'll talk about show Hao Tian
who does Return of the Mount of the Night versus
the San Diego Padre. We'll go ahead, JD. Before we
go on the next topic.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
I know that that's Eric, go ahead, Eric.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Actually, actually I'm pretty sure o Tani actually autographed the
autograph the ball and was actually he was a pretty
good sport about it.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, ildn't.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yeah, I do think that's accurate. And hey, I was
raising my hand, Scott. I know sometimes you're the you're
the professor, so I just I'm just trying to be
correct over here. But I do have a question because
we just mentioned the show. Hey stuff, and I don't
want to spoil anything that you wanted to get you later,

(09:50):
but we might as well talk about now show hey pitching,
Well that's what we're gonna do for the first time.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I know that's our segue. So I'm no, wait, no,
only give you some information how we do things here.
I'm gonna make you memorize these things for fire up.
You know what gmt A stands for.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
D mt A. Yeah, you've told me once before. Let
me tell me again.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
We see if you have any retention, then I'll give
it to you that you'll be your quiz on Thursday night.
By the way, in front of our group there.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
I'll remember it Thursday, I promise.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, you'll remember now. I'm gonna tell you great mind
stick alike, put it in the chat, put it, use
it as a tattoo. And yes, just so you know,
mister Wyatt, we are going on our next topic, which
is exactly what you just mentioned. Thank you very much, sir, sir.
That's the same thing that I order like to hit
your sir. Okay, well now I'm doing a t hm
I you can tell them fire up about tonight. We'll

(10:47):
just get started, like, can you hang with else? I
hope you can? All right, tiget of what since Wyatt
gets the opportunity mentioned it. He's gonna go afterwards, Okay,
first after me, Yeah, show hey old Tony. His return
to the Hill of tonight against the Podres. His pitching record,
mind you, was thirty eight and nineteen with three point
oh one ERA four hundred and eighty one point two

(11:08):
innings pitch SIP hundred and eight ks. I believe he's
only got to pitch an inning, but nevertheless, he's gonna
be out there, and you know he's a gate attraction.
So now that you mentioned that, J. D. Wyatt, just
give you your basic thoughts that you know, we have
a lot to work on about his return of the mound.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
I'm very anxious. I don't know if it started already,
to see what it will look like. He's had surgeries
and everything. Sometimes these players come back, they're not the same.
I think it's really weird that they're going to start
him and only pitch him for one inning, is mainly
what we're hearing. If that's the case, just don't d

(11:45):
h him that game, and let's bring him out of
the bullpen. Don't don't start the pitcher for you know,
don't bring him back and start him like they didn't
do that. The Strider, the Braves didn't, so that to
me is really weird. Regarding the show, I think, all.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right, let me tell you this right now, and that's
something that's a good point. I really like what you
just said. Nowadays away the game is so specialized. Let's
look at it like as an opener. Okay, but this
is an opener from the first pitch of him, and
we'll go from there. I'll turn it Nart over to
Drent Clark. What are your thoughts about show Hey making
his debut to night And.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, I mean, for me, long time coming, right. I mean,
anytime you have a Tommy John it's a typical fifteen
to nineteen months. It's a little it's a really long recovery.
You know. It's a very alarming injury. He's the dynamic
of this guy being such a good hitter and a
very solid pitcher until this injury is what he's kind

(12:44):
of known best for. Right The one thing I love
about Show Hey Otani right now, he's just in a
leadoff spot and I'm trying to think of a lineup
card ever that had leadoff pitcher Show Hey Otani, because
they're gonna da for someone else after and they're going
to move him into either the DH roll or something

(13:05):
like that. It's gonna be interesting how they do the
lineup if he's going to be hitting the night. So
I'll be watching that lineup card.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay, George.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Ticket prices are going through the roof, Fans are excited,
everybody's excited to see this performance, and I'm not totally unsurprised.
I mean, you know that he's there. He obviously he's
going to be in a very limited pitch counter and
like you said, JD that yeah, he's only going to
go in the into one inning. So that's that's typical

(13:37):
for this obviously, with a situation like this. Is also
unique is the fact that, as we know, rehabbing is
done in your minor league facilities. You go down to Lakeland,
you go to Toledo. As far as Detroit is concerned,
LA they would go to the farm teams and work
the guy out. But when your name is old Tani,

(13:57):
you don't do that because obviously he was already in
the middle of the season as far as the batterer goes.
So that's it's a totally different different circumstance. But as
we know baseball geeks. These guys always go down for
their minor league, sometimes the last two to three weeks,
even more than that. Even so, I'm looking forward to

(14:18):
it tonight. He's a different breed, he's a different guy.
He's a one of a kind guy, and I'm looking
forward to see what he can muster. And I tell
you what, Yeah, I'm with you, Trent. I mean, we
don't know yet what he's going to face as far
as strength of his arm or if he can handle
both pitching and ndah dudies like he did before.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Ye I think to your point, which is really good
that all these kids get rehab assignments against a ball
double a kids, like, hey, go get your innings. This
is where I'm surprised. The Southern gentleman's role is exactly
right that why wouldn't they bring him in on a
relief role where he can face seven, eight, nine, Like,
why do you want to go out there and face one, two, three?

(14:59):
That's a bad the beginning of the game because that's
where everybody that's where everybody's talents at, right, So that
surprises me a little bit. But you know, obviously they're willing,
uh you know, he's probably gonna be on a pretty
limited pitch count. He hits twenty five, it's probably over,
so we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's an excellent point trend. It really really is one, two,
three versus seven eight nine. But Dave Roberts says his
way of trying to work what he's gonna do. And
I'll be curious see how this one plays out. And well,
and when we Candy and I get back, we're going
to talk about it. Go ahead, JD, you're out. But
I didn't take lip reading, so the mute button doesn't

(15:37):
need to be on.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Just kiddy with you, No, I was just I do that, Candy.
I mute myself all the time. I always forget to
take it off. That's why I can't stand doing it.
I'm terrible with that with you. Oh no, I'm good. No,
it's yeah, it's funny. It's hilarious because I just tell
Candy I'm preparing. But to to continue on with the show. Hey,

(15:58):
conversation like to the anything, Trent, Eric, George y'all all
said almost George even mentioned going down and pitching it
in minor league. Trentp mentioned the one inning deal. I'm
pretty sure, we're all in agreement, like, if you're gonna
start him, let's go with the pitch count over just

(16:23):
saying one inning, or send them to the miners, or
send him to the wolfpen. But it just feels weird
that they're doing this right to me.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Okay, you know what, I like the Kane's just because
he will be on I performing. But they have a
coup two throws again, no question about that. Kane. You're
right think I hadn't pitched in a while. But if
he has the hiccup, it's no big deal. The fact
the matter is if I go on the hill is
good enough?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
All right?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Katy? Who ahead? That will end up with Eric, and
we have a lot of things I'm gonna get to
as well. But I knew that we were leading off
of these two and they were gonna take up for
amount of time early on. Go ahead, can't So.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Your comment about leading off is exactly what show Hay
is doing. He is batting lead off tonight as well
as pitching. Now to your point where you guys thought, oh,
maybe you should bring him in the seventh, eighth, ninth
or whatever. No, he's a starter. You start him because
then you can limit him because, let's face it, you

(17:23):
don't know what he's gonna have. If you're gonna throw
him in the seventh, eighth, or ninth, you might be
in a tie game, and you know he's he's not
gonna have the same stuff. He just isn't. If any
of you have watched or followed Sandy al Kantara from Miami,
he had Tommy John surgery. He's back, he is not

(17:46):
throwing the usual. He is out of sync. He's he
doesn't have it. He has the same velocity. I don't
think he has the same command, and I think part
of that is show Hay hasn't pitched since August of
twenty twenty. That is a long time to not be
pitching and facing batters. So I think go ahead, start

(18:08):
him from from right.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
In the start, you.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Can limit it. Yes, he's going against one, two, and three,
but remember guys normally later on in the game are
better because they're used to seeing pitchers and pitches and
stuff like that. And the more you would see a
guy the second and third time, which obviously he's not
going to be in for long enough, but you start
him in the beginning, then you know what you have

(18:31):
in the beginning, you can make up the difference you
have the rest of the game. Whereas if if you
put him in the seventh or eighth and he's getting shelled,
that's gonna decrease his confidence. If that loses the game,
that decreases confidence. And I mean he's a superstar, so
maybe it doesn't, but I think him the mental aspect
of it is too that they can probably overcome it

(18:53):
if they do it quick in the beginning. My two cents.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
All right, Eric, you have a final word on it.
Once again, we have a lot to get to him.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
I mean you can't.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
I mean, you can't just throw a guy, make a
guy from a starter to a reliever overnight.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
That's just not how that those things work. You know.
It's either you're a starter or reliever these days. I
mean it's not.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
I mean, the transition isn't easy because starter, you know
what you're facing. Each inning, each inning is gonna be
each inning is gonna be clean, you know, I mean,
regardless if you give up a run or not. You know,
each inning is clean.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
The situation reliever, that's just that's a completely different animal
because you could be coming out there and there's a
mess on the field and.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
The innings not always going to be clean.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Plus the routine as a relief from compared to starter
to reliever is different because starter, you know you're out
there every five days. Reliever you don't know when that
phone's gonna ring and they're gonna call you. But I
think the Dodgers are doing this because they need a
little they need a little hot, a little more Hollywood
action over there. And they know the entire world's gonna
be watching when he goes out in the mound because

(19:53):
everyone's been wanting it for the past two years.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
And you know, I mean, as far as the one
in thing, I.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Think it's kind of weird, to be truthful, I'd rather
wait for him to be one hundred percent before you
before you throw up, before you throw him back out there,
instead of just like, instead of just having him prepare
messing with his routine as far as I'm pitching is concerned.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
But but you know, I.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Mean, you know, they need they need the cameras rolling,
and everybody knows the cameras will be rolling when when,
oh when Otani takes them out.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
Right on.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Hey, I know you said you want to move on,
but I gotta respond because I feel like they're trying
to paint me into a corner a little bit here
when I say that Showhy should get a relief appearance,
I honestly think like we've mentioned, like George mentioned, is
he should get a minor league starting rehab assignment. And

(20:48):
I know you don't want to send down your d
h to minor league to get a pitching start, but again,
starting one game for one inning is really weird. And
obviously if he's coming out of the bullpen, this is
the main response to what y'all said. If he's coming
out of the bullpen, no, they're not gonna put him

(21:12):
in a basis loaded, nobody out situation. And it's like, Okay,
for the Dodgers, we have show Heyo Tany entering into
the game with bases loaded and nobody out for his
first pitching since eight August twenty third, twenty twenty three.
That's not what I'm saying. Obviously, if they're up three

(21:33):
runs eighth inning, seventh inning, your starter gave you a
good game, that's where a manager would use show Heyo Tany.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, let me let me stop you right here. Okay,
I like your play. I think it will take it
all right, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Eric, hold on, you cannot you know, you cannot just
make a starter into a reliever. It's not like you
can just morpho this guy from morphous guy into the
Captain America and the Captain America pod.

Speaker 7 (22:03):
Let me let me finish Southern.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
You cannot just morph this guy into into Captain America's
pod and all of a sudden he's a reliever.

Speaker 7 (22:11):
That's not how this works.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
You know, if he's if you make him a reliever,
you don't know when he's coming out there. The Dodgers
could easily be in a close ballgame. You think they're
going to want to put him out there? No, And
as far as as far as a minor league rehab
is concerned.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
That's the problem.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
That's kind of the problem with Otani is because he's
he's also probably arguably one of the second best hitter
in baseball behind Judge. But it's it's not gonna you
can't just send him down like that. Plus, if they
even put him on a minor league rehab start, the
place would be their minor league stadium would be a madhouse,
and it would and they'd have no idea what to
do you know, but so Otani he's done the rehab

(22:48):
wherever he's gone, because there isn't like they don't say
a lot about where about where he's gone to rehab.
But no, you can't just make him It would mess.
You cannot just blend that routine. It is not as
easy as it sounds and make turn him from a
starter into a leiever that It just does not work
like that.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
All right, JD. Before I let you back in here,
I have one thing I want to say, Okay, and
that's that's number one. This guy, I'll tell you I
told you why. It was pretty good, you know, but
we may I just hope we can make it. I
don't think these guys have two hours in him at
the rate we're going, so we have to make sure
at some point we draw the line. But I can't
wear out my veterans here because I know we're having
a hut whale all the time. But I'll tell you what,

(23:25):
ninety nine out of one hundred times I see you
do the minor league rehab. This is the exception of
the rule of JD. You don't do it here. You
just simply don't do it with this guy. He's the
exception of the rule. Okay, you have one more comment
on the topic, okay, GD, and then we do move.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
On perfectly fun and Eric. So basically we pretty much
agree everything you said, but the one thing that you
took out of what I said isn't accurate. I never
said make him a reliever. I never said turn him
into a reliever. So I'm talking about his rehab. One
res have assignment, So.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
It's not gonna happen, JD.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
I'm not saying me. I'm just saying that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
All right, Well your opinion. I hate to say this
that you have a lot of good opinions. Fire up
as a great place for You'll throw it out there
and it doesn't matter on this show. That opinion is okay.
I don't mind it coming from you. I'm just not
so sure you have the uh you have a little
bit of support on that one. No disrespect, JD, whyatt
really none? But you're you're you're in with the big
boys here tonight. Mind these are baseball bangers what these

(24:31):
guys are. But you'll get used to it as you
come on. Let me tell you, Eric, let me tell
you give you a little information about Eric Katz. Okay,
he's waiting for you to say something like this because
he will eat you up like a great white shark
if you say something like this that he doesn't like.
But you're okay. This is your first rodeo with us.
We love having you. But Eric, there's a reason why
he's on the scene. There's a reason why he has

(24:52):
his own secred called Eric Trant. Don't worry, you'll find
out later. But it's okay, Jad, I love hear what
you gotta to say, and we're good. Nothing, no problem.
But you're dealing with mister Katz here. It just wait
to you know everybody the end of the show, you'll
know what I mean. All right, let's move on a
little bit. I'm just gonna throw a couple of news

(25:13):
items out there. Another debut tonight, Jim Carlo Stanton's debut
was on the night at seven Eastern time in a
timey we know those ten PM Eastern time, real quick
this time, because we have a lot to get to
your thoughts. Eric about Jim Curlo Stanton's debut tonight.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
Well, I'm happy he's back.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
I know he had a single, he had a single tonight,
But I'm just happy he's back.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
Obviously, it's been kind of a long time coming from him.
He had a he had a very he had a
very rough Uh.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
He had a rough spring training, you know, with with
the tennis elbows as well as the cap injury. So
he really didn't have spring training, and it took him
like it took him. It took him to he missed
like the first like almost three months of the season, rehabbing,
trying trying to get in shape. But happy he's back,
and it gives the Yankees a good problem to have
with their lineup when it comes through their designated hitter,
because Ben Rice is doing really well this year, can't he.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
He is one for three with a single and a strikeout.
John Carlo, Uh, he is, he's had he's had his time,
but he he needs he's he's a spark plug when
he's on that he can help ignite them. Uh. And

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then we'll see how show he does later on.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, all right, jad, I'm talking about Carlo Stanton. Don't
tell me he needs a rehab as Simon, or I'll
shave off what's left in my hair and learned a
whole lot kidding. Oh did he okay? Well? Then you
got that one all the way. Kiddy with you, j
you know, I kid because I care. Go ahead, Carlo,
you get the floor on this one, my friend.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah, I'll be short and sweet. I'm loving seeing Stanton
coming back. I have. I missed him as a player.
He's one of the ones that the Major League needs.
He's he's recognizable. I don't I don't know if the
term household name exists anymore. I mean, Aaron Judge maybe

(27:12):
how but yeah, baseball isn't what it used to be.
But I'm excited to see Stanton coming back. And to
me as a picture, I still think it's crazy that
he had tendonitis in both elbows like that. That just
struck me as weird that it hit him on both elbows,

(27:34):
even his non throwing elbow. And he's not even a picture.
So I just think the injury, like I'd really love
to know, like if it's something hereditary or whatever that's
going on. I just think it's weird he had it
in both elbows.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
All right, Thanks Matt Craftley forritch it to popping in
for us, all right, Trent.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, uh, you know, I I think John Carlo Stanton
is synonymous with the Yankees. I mean he's he's a
go to guy for them. It's great to see him
back in the Yankee uniform. I don't like them. Guys
are out for any reason, especially things that I believe
are preventable, and so when things happen, it's never good
for players, it's never good for the league. It does

(28:18):
give one thing, It gives an opportunity. You know, guys
like Ben Rice are gonna get They're notice right now.
All of a sudden, this guy came in, filled in
very handsomely. His stock just went up, like massively as
a player, because listen, is a guy coming out of
tripa A. You know, you'd rather fill in like the
number nine ten guy, not the number two three guy,

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because those are big shoes to fill. So, you know,
and I think Ben Rice did a guy did a
good job of coming in and being Ben Rice and
not trying to be like, oh I got to be
John Carlow and and replace and do all the things
that he does. So I think hats off to Ben Rice.
I think Stanton's a Yankee. It's synonymous with him. He's

(29:03):
an absolute stud and he works hard. So I'm a fan.
And when I see the guys who are kind of
the backbones of teams. I go to the ballpark to
see those guys, and I think the fans, both on
the road and at home, are going to be glad
he's back in the lineup. He sells tickets.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
George, Well, you know, guys and lady, let's look back
at this guy's career. Twenty nineteen, eighteen games, twenty twenty,
twenty three games, twenty one not bad, one hundred and
forty very good, twenty two one hundred and ten, twenty three,
one hundred and one, and twenty four one hundred and fourteen.
We've talked about him before on this show. Yes he

(29:45):
is a stud. Yes he has missed a lot of
games and has really really missed a lot of baseball
the last half dozen years. Also, his strikeouts, he has
struck out so many times in the last six years.
He's got to control that. And he also, you know,
his RBI count is okay, and his home ern okay

(30:08):
when he's in in the lineup. I'm not arguing about that,
But the fact matter is is that they need him,
they need him helping. Now I'm glad he's back for
the sake of the Yankee fans who want to see
him back, Let's see how he can produce. But yes,
he's got to cut down on the k's and he's
gotta be uh like, you know, more selective on those

(30:29):
pitches stead when he's in the batter's box.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Okay, And the dirt and the durability is a real issue.
And now coming in coming in today, we've already eliminated
the fact that he's gonna get a hundred games because
we're well past sixty two already, so you know, you know,
it's another year of him having a subpar games played
stat and you know that's gonna ultimately catch up with

(30:53):
him on contract time, ultimately going to catch up with him.
And of course that'll also bring up a steroid issue too,
because guys are steroids tend.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
To Now, well, I can say about Carlos Stantons. I've
seen this guy play actually at low Depault Park, and
he's hit some bombs like you would believe, So you
taught nobody's gonna question this guy's power. Let's continue on
for sure, glad that both of them are making their
debut to night, let's talk about another college baseball note.
And then I'm gonna talk about the Japanese players that

(31:21):
we're gonna go to a station break. Gage Wood of
Arkansas throws a no hitter in the College World Series,
a third no hitter in men's College World Series history.
When he does this through an elimination game. It's one
thing to throw a no hitter, but to do it
in an elimination game, Southern Fried gentleman, is pretty darn impressive,
isn't it?

Speaker 5 (31:41):
It absolutely is. I have dirty s words on Southern
sports that players are lacking these days, or teams are
lacking these days. Chemistry, culture, commitment, camaraderie, all of those
are one of them.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But clutch.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Clutch is the biggest one. Man, oh man, can you
imagine the adrenaline if it were me like Scott? You
said you were a catcher, I was a pitcher.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Oh yeah, well, good would get along? Well?

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Hey mean College World Series? Right now? You just called
me a no hitter, Scott, can you imagine?

Speaker 6 (32:23):
I mean God, let me interrupt, Hey, JD, I'm gonna
tell you something right now.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I'd be great at framing your picture's brother to make
you even look better. And I used to get into
the psychology at the umpires like you, and we'll use
that as an off camera conversation. But that's good. I
like the fact you're a picture I'm a catcher. Great stuff.
Continue on. I just had to get that in there, world,
fresh off my caffeinated head.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Go ahead, Oh yeah, no, absolutely, but yeah, Arkansas they
have to battle back LSU and u C l A.
Whoever wins that game, they're going to be in a
prime position, just like Coastal Carolina. So listen, I'm tuned
into the College World Series.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You can ask.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
You can ask any of my listeners. We're baseball junkies.
We even watch the Braves and they suck.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, I could tell that you're a baseball junkie while
you're fitting in with your first tact to I take
stuff by the way, all right, Trent.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, I think you know. I love the cze JD
mentioned right, like, and I I think college baseball really
has that. I think they've done a great job of
dialing those things in better at the college level than
the pro level sometimes. And so you know, man, I mean, like, listen,
this is a guy who steps up and and I
and I think JD does a great service of paying

(33:49):
homage to the battery like it's a big deal for
the catcher's a big part of that, right. Uh. But man,
this is this is someone just taking the ball in
your hands and looking in his teammate's eyes and listen, boys,
get on my back. I'm gonna get stuff done for you.
And I love that, man, I mean I love that.
That's like, that's the what he did, the equivalent of

(34:10):
going out and getting in the fight for you in hockey. Right,
He's gonna fire everybody up. You just shut everybody down
and like, hey, listen, I'm the baddest guy in town,
Knight and uh and we're gonna live another day. And man,
that's a that's a big deal. Gives your team a
lot of confidence. Man, when something like that happens, couldn't
have come in a better time for Arkansas, no.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Question about George.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, I mean this is this is a great day
for him and for Arkansas. Age Wood, congratulations. First time
in sixty years. Sixty years. Imagine that, all the great
pictures that have come through the college ranks in all
those years and here he is standing right alongside only
two other men have done it. Just incredible. Third no

(34:54):
hitter in the first in sixty years. I mean, it's
just a remarkable thing. The razorback obviously won the game
three to nothing, and that's no slouch. Team Murray State,
let me tell you. I mean, they're not a school
as some of these other ones out there, as we
darn well know Arkansas and Texas and USC and all
these baseball iri was one of the all these baseball
college baseball powerhouses. Here's Murray State. But I'm telling you

(35:17):
what the kid deserves. He deserves the accoloids. And he's
talk about firing up his team. You're darnwright trend. He's
sure did.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Great reference, George, and Murray State. By the way, there's
a team that's there for the first time. It really is.
And I'll go ahead and do a little bit of
homework on that, but I'm glad you did bring up
Murray Stay Candy, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
So yes, George, this was the third no hitter in
College World Series. But what really makes woods performance. It
included a record breaking nineteen strikeouts and only one base
runner allowed who reached on a hit by pitch in
the eighth inning runner ninety. That is unheard of. That's great,

(36:05):
that's awesome. Good congratulations to him.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
And let me point this out, George, just to show
what a great point you actually made. Murray State's coach,
his name is Dan Skirka, says, I wanted to earn
it for a first time with them being in the
College World Series. So George Reitcorn, he hit a bullseye
on that one. So let me just talk about it again.
Murray States baseball coach, which is a Cinderella story in

(36:30):
the College World Series, says his Rodoma. He just wanted
to earn it for the first time. So anything that
can happen with the Racers to me is just unbelievable stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
One last point, gage Wood is the number fifty draft
prospect right now.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I think he's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right now, that's
just going to number five right there, the number fifty
to five, just like that. And hey, you know what,
I did want to jump in on Murray State. Like,
by the way, you know you've seen these College World
Series game JD's following it close. These are these are
some football scores in college baseball. Now the aluminum and
all that hats off to Murray State. Listen, a three

(37:13):
to zero ball game is a good, well played ballgame
in the College World Series. These games are usually ten nine,
you know, thirteen eleven, these are these are some big things.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I always go back to my college days where we
were all excited about averaging, you know, eight and a
half runs a game. Our issue that we gave up ten. Right,
So like, you know, you can you can score all
the runs in the world, but you can't play defensive pitch,
you can't win. And so man, you know, Murray State
holding a very good Arkansas baseball team of three runs
usually probably four or five times would likely get you

(37:46):
a win, except they ran and the gauge would and
that's an issue.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Great points. I'm glad you made that point on Murray State. Okay, JD.
You know we look go to Eric to Ryan about
this topic.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
That's what I was gonna ask that Eric, you go head,
go ahead and get your take in and then yeah,
I just had one other thing I was gonna say.
But if everybody hadn't got their stuff in yet, I'll wait. No,
I'm good, Eric, go ahead, let's hear it.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
To do it, To do it against aluminum bats is
actually pretty impressive because you know it's not because you know,
those those things increase offenses. I've always had a problem
with them at the at the college level because you know,
because scouts aren't gonna be looking at those stats.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
They're gonna see what. They're gonna be using your what you.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Do in the summer as as the real numbers, because
let's be honest, like it, because those you know, the
wood bat leagues or what prepares you for the pros,
not really the long, the long grind of the college season,
which I really wish they would move to wood bats.
But it's you know, it's impressive. Obviously, throw a no
hitter in the coll World Series. I mean, there's been
a lot of great pictures to uh go through the

(38:44):
College World Series.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
Who who who never did it?

Speaker 6 (38:47):
But you know the fact that he can, uh that
he's gonna he's forever gonna have it, gonna have a
place in the College World Series history.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
It's pretty neat.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Okay, all right, Kady of the last words then will
continue on.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
All right, So I gonna be really quick, Eric, I
really love that opinion mostly, but I you know, you
tried to cook me up earlier. So now I present
your first opportunity to get fried. If college baseball changed
away from aluminum bats, it would just be minor league baseball,
and that would take away from some of the love

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of college baseball. In my opinion, well.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
As far as far as as far as as far
as love goes, I don't think anybody loves waking up
at five, three or five in the morning to go
well work out. So you're not really changing a whole
lot there. I mean, I can guarantee you everybody on
that field, or most people on that field, want to
go pro. They're not going to be scouting you really
with the illuminum bats and looking at those stats your
swing would at the minor league and the professional level.

(39:49):
Those illuminum bats do nothing for you. You've probably seen
it now with some guys coming into who get drafted,
who come to the minor leagues, and it's like and
it's like they got they were at deer in the
headlight in the middle of the road.

Speaker 7 (40:03):
That illuminum bath do nothing to prepare you.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Okay, And that's fair. Hold on, sorry, and I got
one more and I'm gonna finish up. But yeah, that's fair.
But guess what, every player that plays and the miners
or the professionals has hit with an aluminum bat and
I just wanted to shout out Murray State. You guys
all gave them credit. I don't know if you guys
know this or not, but their coach cuts the baseball field.

(40:29):
They probably rake their field. They probably cover it with
the tart themselves. Their stadium holds eight hundred people. So
for them to make it to quote unquote the elite
eight of college baseball is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Well, if you're gonna go there, I'll just say this
and then I'll end the top because we are going
to the station break after I put this rip up there.
If you're going down there, Shad, why don't we just
give congratulations as a Western Michigan University's hockey team because
they ended up going out there and winning the college
hockey tournament with no ni L or no transfer portal,

(41:05):
and you have the opportunity to rebuttle that. I get
the last word because I'm the host of this show. Period.
There you go, peace sign anything you want to do.
But you know what, all of a sudden, we have
a baseball show and we have a boxing matches taking
place between Eric and JD. I love it. Boxing has
coming to baseball BB and people. That's what we have

(41:25):
we got Eric and JD. White. I don't know how
that I'm gonna make his way back off, but I'm
hark you sens the rivalry that could rival you back
and forth, Eric beak Off.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
This stuff a tribute question. Tribute question. Where is Murray
State University? Anyone know the city and state?

Speaker 6 (41:44):
I know, I'm pretty I'm pretty sure it's I'm pretty
sure it's Kentucky, right, correct?

Speaker 5 (41:49):
What city? Negative, It's just outside of It's just outside
of Louisville. Nope. I literally just heard the name the
other day and I can't.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Let's go Paduca the DUCA.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh yeah, I know that there before. All right, that's enough,
Let's keep going. That's enough, all right, rest in peace
here there you go, George. That's why that's why I
keep you around forever. All right, but rest in peace.
Shagaro Nagashima nineteen thirty five of Japanese base Well, legend

(42:28):
has cast away? Why am I mentioning it? Because we're
talking Japanese baseball tonight. That's why I mentioned show Heyo Tani.
This guy's way older than anybody in the panel, so
nobody needs to comment on it every now and then
that we call these an fyi and that's your fyi.
And the next week we're talking about is a station break.
Candy take it away, but once again Shagaro Nagashima rest

(42:49):
in peace. Baseball is the team tonight and we have
a lot of other stuff to get to and Candy
brings us back from the station break.

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Speaker 1 (43:51):
Say, I'll make sure we get to day right. Shageo
is the name, Nagashima is the last name. Candy. Know
what we're gonna talk Marlin baseball, But we're gonna talk
about Robbie Ray. Why a were gonna mention him because
Jackson Joe whether the Detroit Tiger is gonna have Tommy
John surgery. Now we're going to talk about Robbie Ray.

(44:12):
And here's the thing. I saw this guy play in
the All Star Game a few years back, and you
talk about an unbelievable story. And Clayton McCullough had some
high praise for mister Ray.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Take it away, let me share my screen here, let
me get to it. Sorry you didn't have a p
I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Here we go, Hello, Robby Ray won last second. And
that says he has a variety of pitches. Which are
those pitches? Do you fear the most with a guy
like Jammy seven and going into the game and we
know that he's had an All Star appearance here in
this particular building.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
Yeah, I mean, I think it is this Robbie. Mean,
he's again there's left hands, there's some deception there.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
You know.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
The fastball plays up, you know, towards the top of
the zone and then the ability to get the ball
you know, spinning down below bats you know.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
So, yeah, Robbie's a tough customer.

Speaker 8 (45:14):
We're gonna have to, you know, try to get him
into areas that you know, we're looking to hit and
you hopefully, you know, when you when you take some shots,
you're able to you know, cash in when you get
a few guys on base.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Thank you, Clayton, Okay, thanks, So there you have it.
Coach Clayton McCollough talks about Robbie Ray and Tommy John surgery,
but he didn't talk about so much of Tommy John surgery.
That's what Jackson Joe is going to have to experience.
But Robbie Ray has made a remarkable comeback. And in
that game that we saw him face the Marlins, he

(45:44):
did suffer his first defeat of the year, but he
lost a one to nothing game. So the Marlins out
best of them as a pitcher's duel there, and Robbie
raised a name that you're going to probably see probably
in the All Star Game. I don't have his up
to dated stats, but Candy can provide him as I'll
call on her last. But what are your thoughts Shad
Wyatt about Robbie Ray emerging as a frontline pitcher for

(46:06):
the San Francisco Giants.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Again, I think it's fantastic for anybody to come back
from Tommy John surgery. You never know what it's going
to be like getting a picture back from that surgery.
It's just fantastic though that he has a chance to
go forward. We saw Strider he even pulled his hamstring
after like doing warm up pitches after Tommy John surgery.

(46:32):
So when you have to tweak your throwing motion and
things like that in baseball, it's it's different and you
might work other muscles more. And so hopefully everything's good
to go with him coming back and shout out to
anybody's come back from Tommy John surgery.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
All right, Just so you know, Eric is gonna get
two rants tonight, not one. He'll know what the second
one is in a moment. But Trent talks about what
Clayton McCollough has to say about Robbie Ray.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, I think it's both these guys. You know, it's
it's kind of the two sides of the coin, right.
Robbie's back trying to make a go of it, you know,
post surgical, and you know a lot of guys is repaired.
The challenges is the numbers don't favor the pitchers. Most
things don't come back very well. Uh And I know
we have all these stories of hey, Temmy John came

(47:27):
back fine, and it's not easy to come back off
that thing, man, and it's a long road back. Horrible
to see Jackson Job having to go through this. He's
a young man. Mysteriously, I don't love the fact, like
you know, as an angel. You know, our team physicians
were curling Job. You know, great physicians, always big on shoulder,

(47:49):
elbow guys. And of course they did the famous capsular
shrinkage in the original Timmy John out of Curland Jobe Clinic.
So you know it's a unique name for Jackson Joe,
so that he would share that and he's just you know,
these guys, these kids are these Tommy John's aren't aren't
thirty two thirty three when when you know Tommy John

(48:10):
had his right, like these kids are freaking nineteen and
twenty one and you're seeing kids in high school going
through this. I'm alarmed at the amount of volume of
Tommy John surgeries. I'm alarmed at the age categories and
what it's moved down to. And I'm alarmed that people
think the success rates high because it's not. They're taking

(48:33):
a ligament out of your leg, move it in. It's not.
The success is not great. And we hear about the
famous people to come back, but you know, there's a
thousand kids and it's not it's not a big probable
statistic to come back and be the same, and you
can do all the work and all the stuff, but
it's a it's a tough go. So hats off to

(48:55):
Robbie Ray, but it's it's gonna be a tough to
It's gonna be a tough go for Jackson and we
wish him well.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Excellent points all the way around, Trent, Go ahead, Scott.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
I just wanted to squeak one thing in real quick.
I'm sorry, And it was just his questions that Trent
was asking, Trent, if you want to continue to follow
you said you were alarmed, you were alarmed about this
and that and that and that are you alarmed at
how quickly they're coming back from this surgery now too?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, I think the I think the repair and everything's
coming back faster. Right, We've we've done a ton of
stuff on the medical side to work in the rehabilitation.
I mean, look at our hips now right, everyone's having
outpatient hip go home walk this afternoon. So the return
to function, the return to movement, becomes very important. I'm
a guy who had a shoulder done, had frozen shoulder

(49:44):
after the surgery. I mean, you got to keep moving,
and it's dangerous ground. So you know, I'm on the
fence about how fast it's moving. You know. Otani actually
is kind of the opposite, right, They've really taken him
a long time, becausensidering he's twenty two months out from
pitching last so he's kind of the exception to the
rule because he's special and he is special. But I

(50:08):
think the alarm of moving things faster, it's a little concerning.
It's a little concerning, Okay, fair enough, George Well.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Robbie Ray, of course, was drafted by the Washington Nationals,
but the Tigers had possession of him and his contract
back in twenty fourteen. I've kind of watched his career
from a French point of view. Obviously, he's had some
really good years in there and some real down years.
And you take a look at the last several years

(50:38):
as unfortunately during the surgery, you know, his contributions have
been you know, minimal, you know, but again, you know,
this happens like like you said, Trent, to guys that
are young. Robbie's got a few years on him. Obviously,
he's not as young as Joeb and those guys that
are having the surgery. But the fact of the matter

(50:59):
is I'm happy for him. Uh, you know, he's uh,
he's he's done well this year so far, and I
and I hope he can continue that. But it is
a tough situation, always coming back from from Tommy John
or whatever surgery a pitcher has to come back from.
But you know, he's he's had some good years in
his career and now he's hoping to get back to

(51:20):
those good years and then, uh and and rekindle some
of that. But it's still remains to be seen. So far,
so good though.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
And I actually sawbody with Santel Mariners and interviewed him,
and he's a really super class act when I covered
the olf game here in Miami. All right, can't yes
stats on Ray will give Eric the last word on
this one, Okay, I want to keep it froing.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
He's eight and one this year, he's his ere is
two point five to five ninety two strikeouts. I mean,
one of the things that we kind of tend to
forget is how uh how hard they throw. Now, when
we look at how he throws, he throws fastball ninety seven,
ninety eight, he throws even like his curveball and the

(52:05):
slider at eighty five, Like that's that's no slouch. That's
that's strong pitching. And part of I think why we're
seeing so many people, so many pitchers have Tommy John
is we've gone to this specialized Oh, we need to
be specialized in one sport and one sport only, and
so we start specializing in that sport. So early on,

(52:28):
we've heard from other trainers, Scott, I know you've talked
to other people on and interviewed them, and they said
that there's something about playing different sports that you use
different muscles. You're not constantly using the same muscle and
wearing it out. You're playing you're doing different things. I
think that's one of the reasons why we're seeing more

(52:49):
and more of those kind of injuries. But kudos to
him because like it's not easy to come back from.
Like we've said, there are some how many thousands of
pictures have had Tommy john surgery. How many of them
have really come back and been effective after the surgery?

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Excellent points all the way around. Eric, you have the
last word on this. And then when we're dell with Eric,
he's going to actually have two rants, and I'm gonna
mention he'll have one a woman and his other one
later on.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
Okay, go ahead, Eric, Well some of its talent development,
because now we're looking for guys to be Randy, to
be Randy Johnson day in and day out. To the
point to and it's something I've always had, something I've
always had a problem with. A point where I had
a friend of mine, he said, is there a day
where you don't complain about how they develop them?

Speaker 7 (53:35):
And I told her no.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
But you know, this has been it's a been a
growing problem baseball Today's it really has you know. You know,
obviously the specialization of one sport isn't helping, but.

Speaker 7 (53:47):
It has nothing.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
Really, I don't think I mean, that's some of it,
but I don't think it's completely it.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
I just think that we're just teaching. We've stopped teaching
kids how to pitch. We've only taught them how to throw.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
We want them throw a ninety five plus miles an
hour eighty nine when they're fourteen years old. Then boom,
they're under the knife at a young age, and and
some of them don't even get don't even get signed
to play pro baseball because their their arm is practically
looking like Anakin Skywalkers.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
At the end of episode two, it's it's it's not even.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
It's it's not even.

Speaker 6 (54:18):
It's it's a very big problem. We don't train these
guys how to pitch. We only teach them how to throw.
It's why you're seeing surgeries going through the roof. It's
why you're seeing some kids who probably won't even be
able to lift up who probably won't even be able
to lift up their kid when they're born. It's it's
really a bad thing. It's because we as it's called

(54:39):
people in baseball now. And I think part part of
that too is the minor part of it too, is
like because you know, everything starts with the MLB level
then trickles all the way down.

Speaker 7 (54:48):
The MLB level is not teaching them how to throw,
so people at.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
The little league level are like, well, I don't need
to teach them how to throw now because they can
go play pro baseball. But but you know, it's it's
a big problem. They're not riotizing their pitches. They're just
thinking that it's always going to be the high heat
and that's all.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Now.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
You mean, you know, if there are plenty of guys
today who haven't had the surgery, who are more finessed
yet they still have success, who kind of rebel against
that notion, which I've always I've always admired those guys,
but it's a very big problem in the game today.
I feel awful for Jackson job, but God, we need
to get back to teaching them how to throw and
how to excuse me, how to pitch and how to

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varietize their pitches.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Thanks allent pointing? All right, Eric, here's rant number one.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
This one last point. Can I just say, fifty years ago,
Tommy John, a pitcher for the Los Angeles Dodgers, had
a career saving experimental OH surgery to repair the torn
collateral ligament. As of twenty twenty four, thirty six percent
of all active major league pitchers have undergone Tommy John's surgery,

(55:58):
and the rate continue to increase yearly.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I'm only going to reinforce one thing, and nobody gets
a comment, and I'm just saying it for the sake
of the topic. Tommy John belongs in the Baseball Hall
of Fame period exclamation point, and for no other reason,
because of what his surgery's done, the prolonged careers, and
the fact that his numbers were pretty good. We talked
about this on a previous show, and that's where this
topic finally ends. Now we go on to Eric first rant,

(56:27):
the Yankees took Devin Williams out of the closers role
earlier in the year. And then Candy, you can even
chime in on it, and it's only going to be
these two people because they're closer to the situation. And
then we'll continue on. I don't want to unless Trent
months to get someone. I want to keep this littliminate
because we still have a lot more to go. First
of all, Eric, what here talks about Devin Williams being
taken out of the closer role.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
I had to be done.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
I just think, man just I think personally he's been
better and now that well, he's kind of has it
back on a part time basis because Luke Weaver has
been Luke's been hurt.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
But I think it just had to be done.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
We don't need another Clay Home situation where we think
he's going to bounce back and then next thing, you know,
he just he just is awful to the point where
they have to take they take him out after after
a few too many blown saves. But I think the
Yankees did the right thing. Devin Williams, you know, he's
got plenty of experience as as a setup man. He
was doing that for for Josh Hater for a very

(57:23):
for a while before he officially took over as the closer.
And I think it's a good thing because you know, hey,
it's a lot different playing in Milwaukee than it is
in New York.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Candy, Yeah, Devin was a very good closer, but he's
so specialized that you have to put him in almost
like a rotation. He can't be he can't be overused either,
So you know, he had some really good years with

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the Brewers, but the market for the Milwaukee Brewers is
way different than the market is for the New York Yankees.

Speaker 6 (58:03):
Okay, girdle mm hmm, all right, Milwaukee, you don't nearly
get the hard hitting questions that you'll get in New York.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Oh, no question about that. There's no question. So all right,
so let's continue on, and that's this. We're gonna talk
about a couple of Hall of Fame possibilities, and we're
gonna get and so other five came back in time
to get involved with this conversation. All right, good stuff, JD.

(58:34):
Hall of Fame Lewis Tiant forty nine shutouts, one hundred
and eighty seven complete games, three time All Star, two
time ERA title. His record is too twenty seven and
one seventy two with a three point three zero earned
run average, thirty four hundred and eighty six innings pitch
to twenty four hundred and sixteen days, games five seventy three,

(58:55):
and games started four eighty six. All right, JD, what
do you think we're talking about LT Hot and the
Boston restaurant? Do you think he belonged in the Hall
of Fame?

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Yeah, I mean with the numbers you just presented, yeah,
put them in. Yeah, the numbers. I mean, hey, I
want to know too, complete games. They're going to have
to re evaluate that stat because we all know that
it's going.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Away, no question about it.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Yeah, they're keeping guys on a pitch count, they're taking
them out. So unless you're in college, you won't see
complete games.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Well, you're one hundred percent right. We've talked about time
and time again, and as you continue to come on
this show more and more often, it's a topic familiar with.
This is a segment that we talk about in terms
of Hall of Fame possibilities, and I tried to pick
up the best couple of ones in Louis Tiant. But
let me tell you something, JD. Your point is one
hundred percent accurate. It really really is what you do
with a complete game stat. That's why I like to

(59:50):
bring up particular hurlers, and this guy's one of them.
Great stuff, JD. All right, what are your thoughts Trent
about l as you Belong To?

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Does?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Louis Tian is a iconic player for the Red Sox.
I think the one hundred and eighty seven complete games
I I'm gonna I'm gonna go against that. Actually, and say,
you know, back to Connor Eric's ramp here a little
bit is the fact that we're not honoring these stats.
We're looking at hard playing thrower guys. Listen, great backs
through complete games with ninety pitches, like you know, when

(01:00:21):
when people actually learn how to throw the ground ball
and throw sinkers that guys can't get a hold of
and they're just gonna roll over. You know, I just
came from a little league and tonight I watched one
of our pitchers throw two innings under seven, two innings
under eight pitches, you know, like both both innings. So listen,
this is this is the new stat. Get people out.

(01:00:43):
You're gonna find out that people can throw complete games
at one hundred and twenty five pitches and they've got
the fortitude to come back after five games and they
throw one hundred and twenty five. Now, if you can't
throw a complete game inside that, yeah, you're gonna limit
that because they're gonna do some level of pitch count.
But at the end of the day, these stats are
going to change because there's going to be value in

(01:01:04):
that as opposed to can you throw one hundred and
one down the middle? Because in that League. Everybody turns
one hundred and one down the middle around. That doesn't
mean Jack, If you throw it down the middle, you're
gonna get spun up and it doesn't matter what you got,
it doesn't matter. You have to learn to pitch and
they're gonna have to start valuing that again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
So, Trent, did you have anything you want to add
about the Devin Williams situation?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
No, No, I don't. I think it is what it is,
and I think it's a good move for the team.
You know they're doing with best.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
That's right, Eric and Kandy I felt we're probably to
talk about it and that's where we go, all right.
Georg talks about LTTE.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Well, he's he's not going to be in the Hall
of Fame. If I had a vote, he was on
the ballot and peaked at thirty nine percent in his
first ballot year, So he was on a ballot from
nineteen eighty eight to two thousand and two. Then, if
that's not enough, he was looked at by the goal
An Era Committee and the Modern Era Committee three times,

(01:02:04):
and those gentlemen on those committees did not advance his nomination.
He's in one of those tough situations like our friend
Mickey Lolich. They had really good careers, really solid careers,
good stats. I mean, Louis Tillan led the Cool American

(01:02:24):
League in nineteen sixty eight in urn run average, and
of course Bob Gibson had that incredible year in sixty
eight as we know. But Louis Tillan was so dominant.
When he was dominant, he was dominant. I mean, he
was really spot on. But again, you know the All
Star Games, I think there was only like four or something.
He didn't have enough consistency throughout the whole career. I

(01:02:47):
did admire him though. He was quite the inspiration for
the Latino community. He was an inspiration for Red Sox
fans and the whole Boston era Red Sox era in
that time frame. And he's a real close call. But
unfortunately he's just not got enough for me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Okay, Candy, he played for nineteen years in the Major League.
That's a long time. You don't do that by being
just average. Like, nineteen years is a long time to play,

(01:03:25):
you know. Does he belong in the Hall of Fame?
I think again, it's gonna go down to what do
we qualify as really good? What do we qualify as
good who should be in there? Is it how many
World Series championships you have? Is it how many innings

(01:03:46):
you pitched? Is it how many strikeouts? Like he had
two four hundred and sixteen strikeouts, his ERA was three
point three zero over the course of nineteen years. That's
not over the course of two years, he had forty.
He had one hundred and eighty seven complete games and
forty nine shutouts in three thousand, four hundred eighty six

(01:04:09):
and a third innings. He was an All Star for
three seasons and twenty game winner for four seasons. He
was an American League EERA leader in sixty eight and
seventy two. He was the ALE leader in strikeouts per
nine innings pitched in nineteen sixty seven and the ALE
leader in shutouts in sixty six, sixty eight, and seventy four.

(01:04:30):
He was inducted into the Boston Red Sox Hall of Fame,
the Hispanic Heritage Baseball Museum Hall of Fame, the Venezuelan
Baseball Hall of Fame, and Museum and Baseball requiring a
shot shrine of the eternals. He was considered in the
base National Baseball Hall of Fame but he did not

(01:04:51):
make it. Do I think he deserves in, Yes, I.

Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
Do, Okay, Eric, I think unfortunately Lewis Tiant, Yeah, I
think he deserves to get in. But he also falls
victim to the era he played in, because he also
played against guys like Tom Seaver, Gaylord Perry, Fergie Jenkins,
Catfish Hunter, Nolan Ryan, Ron Gidrian and many others who
were like who were much who I think were much bigger.

Speaker 7 (01:05:14):
Names than than than Louis Tiant.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Unfortunately, that's just the unfortunate part, because yeah, he played
against some pretty great pitchers who win their own right,
are obviously hall Halls of famers. So unfortunately for Tiat though,
he kind of falls victim to the era he pitched
in because during the seventies that was a golden error
for pitching. And Bob Gibson also was playing during that time.
You know, Denny McLain was Denny McClain obviously before he

(01:05:39):
got into Truck was there during that time.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
Mickey Lolwich was there.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
I think unfortunately those guys, he just falls into the
era he Unfortunately, it was the era that he played
in because during the seventies that was a golden era
for pitchers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
You know what, I'm gonna agree. There's a reason.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
There's a reason they moved the mound back, right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
I'm gonna agree with you. I do believe that he
belongs in the Hall of Fame. The other thing missing
actually is World Series Championship. He gets in if he
wins the World Series title. That probably changes the argument
a little bit. But the thing I loved about Altionte
was his delivery and the fact that he had his
eyes and deceptions so away from the batter that it
was the most quirky delivery I've ever seen. So I'm

(01:06:16):
actually endorsing Altiante. Well, we'll continue the Hall of Fame
conversation a little bit to another guy, Chase Uttley. Hall
of Fame, Yes or no. His numbers are two seventy
five with eighteen hundred and eighty five hits, two fifty
nine home runs, ony twenty five RBI. He's received thirty
nine point eight percent of the vote in his second
year on the ballot in obviously in twenty twenty five.

(01:06:43):
He's a sixth time All Star, four time Silver Slugger
World Series Champion in two thousand and eight, so he
does actually have a World Series on his resume. So
you know, his numbers to me aren't the greatest, but
we're talking about a different era. So all right, Eric,
I'm gonna sturt off with you on Chase. What your
thoughts about whether Chase Utley belongs in Keep in mind,

(01:07:06):
thirty nine point eight percent in his second year on
the ballot.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Uh not really like he had a I mean, the
you know, two thousand and six to twenty ten were
kind of like, we're kind of peaked years for him,
but then the rest of the time he was just good.
He kind of had like a similar a career, similar
to like Roger Morris where he had like great years
sandwiched in between years where he was just mediocre. But

(01:07:31):
not really, I just think he's like, I think he
was a very good player. I mean, he was a
big part of the Phillies World Series team, but I
don't think he's a I don't think he's a Hall
of Famer at all. And he also never led the
league aside from one year in runs, he never he
never led the league in any in any statistical category.
And you know, he just, to me, aside from a
few All Star appearances, he just was he was just

(01:07:52):
a good player, but not like not one that's like
the best of your era, which I don't think Chase
Utley was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Okay, Candy, Utley's seven career World Series home runs are
the most for a second baseman, and he shares the
record of five home runs in a single World Series
with Reggie Jackson and George Springer. Do I think he
leaves belongs in batting average two seventy five, home runs
two fifty nine, and runs batted in of onenty twenty five,

(01:08:22):
I would say no, hallo very good, but not Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
JB.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Waatt.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
This is gonna be weird. I'll be honest, but I
would put Chase Utley in the Hall of Fame just
because when I used to play PlayStation four and three
back in the day and I was playing MLB, whatever year,
twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, whatever the year was, I would

(01:08:52):
pick Chase Utley always as my second basement. You all,
you know, everybody done it. If you video games before,
you've done it, I don't want to hear anything different.
If you've played video games before, you've traded for all
of the best players, and for me, one of the
best players in the MLB at second base in that

(01:09:14):
time was Chase Outlely, And so regardless of his facts
or stats or whatever, I would put him in the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
You know what. I like different opinions, and you actually
have a pretty and triggering one, No problem. More power
to you, all right, Trent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Yeah, he's a big note for me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Love him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Like, I think he's an absolute gamer. So he's got
leadership skills and he's also clutch, like he really shows
up when it's on the line. And I think he
was a big propel, a guy who really got things
going for his playoff teams because you know he'd have
great at bats. So he's a guy who can turn

(01:09:55):
up his game at that highest level. But you know,
look at the numbers day in, day out, and they're
good numbers, but they're not Hall of Fame numbers. And
so you know, I don't I don't subscribe to what
we're designating players in and PlayStation. So you know, it's
a nice little deal. But you know, Bo Jackson back
in the old deal of uh, you know Techmobil. You

(01:10:17):
know we had superpowers and super skills and that was
cute that they did it in the machine. But in reality,
guys get injured and guys get hurt and can end
real quick and that's it. And he was a super player.
But for Chase Hutley, he's one of those guys who's
who's just a really a really strong guy at his

(01:10:38):
position during his era, and a great player to have
on your team and a fan favorite. All those reasons
are all good, but the numbers don't lie, and the
numbers don't qualify.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Okay, George, I.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
Just want to say one thing in regards to Trent,
to what he just said, and yeah, George, absolutely take
it over after this. I didn't say put him in
based on my PlayStation numbers that I got him. I
just wanted to make sure that was clear. But what
I was saying was is he was one of the
more popular players during that time who had stats that
are Hall of Fame debatable. So again, I completely agree

(01:11:19):
with everybody's opinion who say don't put him in, But
to me, I would put him in just because, like
I said, he was a character that I knew. Just
it's the Michael Michael, Jordan, Lebron James debate. Like everybody's
got their favorite regardless of the time, era, But I
just wanted to make sure I was clear Chase Hutley

(01:11:40):
doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame because he hit
fifty six home runs for me and won me the
World Series on MLB twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Okay, I'm going to say is I'm not endorsing him whatsoever.
Let me say this, Eric, Okay, dynamically belongs in their
way before Chase Hotingly. We're gonna sit here and talk
about Chase something that's fine. I say, hello, very good
for him. Don Manny needs to get in for I
even talk about any auxiliary candidates and that's it. You
want to add to that real quickly.

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
I was about to say Don Maddenley, because Chase, if
you put Chase Utley, you gotta put Don Maddenley in,
who was like the best player from like half the
for about about half the eighties, Like you know, you'd
have to put him in because Don Maddicley there was
a period time during the eighties where Don Matticley dominated
during the age, Utlely did not dominate that era. He
had some good seasons where you know, you know, solid competent,

(01:12:32):
competent guy.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
You want a guy you want in your lineup.

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
But no, he wasn't the you know, the big The
big bat in that lineup was Ryan Howard. I don't
think he was the best player on his own team.
That was Ryan Howard at that point in time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Yeah, I agree, you know what you're right. I mean,
I tell you right now, Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins
to me, I would look at more before I would
chase something, just so you know. That's what I think.
So great points all the way around, so that the
limited everybody get their opinion on this one. George has
to go go ahead, George.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Well, yeah, I'm not going to put a guy in that.
Only five times in his career he had twenty or
more home runs, Only five times in his career he
had ninety or more RBI in his career. He didn't
even hit two thousand base hits. He finished at one
eight eight five. Okay, batting average again is not enough

(01:13:26):
for me. Home runs two fifty nine total in his career. No,
I'm sorry. He was a good player and certainly a
spark plug for the Phillies, but he does not get
into the Hall of Fame. I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Okay, next topic on most shows, this topic gets in earlier,
but considering what we're dealing with tonight with Otani and
everybody else, we're going to talk about her a little
bit later. But a person I worked with before, yeah,
AUSL Commissioner Kimming on MLB strategy to involve of women's softball.

(01:14:06):
This is a weather shed moment for women's sports, and
especially softball. MLB's investment will supercharge our efforts to build
the sustainable professional league this sport has long deserved. MLB
takes a historic step with strategic investment into women's sports.
And just so you know what the acronym is here,

(01:14:28):
the new athletes are limited Softball League and the deal
includes fundraiser marketing. So keep in mind that this is
a league that now is what we call a pioneering situation. So, Eric,
what are your talks about what kim Ming is doing
to put softball as well as MLB's involvement in it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
I think it's been a long time coming for women's softball.
I mean the College World Series always always gets numbers.
I mean that people watch it. It's really entertaining. I actually
intern for a softball team when I was when I
was in college when I was getting the early start
in sports, and you know, I think it was a
long time coming. I think it's long overdue. There's popularity,
there's the league is clearly you know, especially at the

(01:15:11):
college level, people watch the Olympics always drew numbers, especially
with people like Jenny Finch, Monic Abbocash from et cetera.
You know, I just think it's a long time coming.
I'm glad that it's happening now and I'm hoping that
it that it builds great momentum going forward.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. I know somebody who
played it and she actually worked with Marylin's. Her name
is Kelly Sacho, dynamite young broadcaster for the Miami Marylands.
Kelly is great and she knows the game real well.
So of course, let's not forget Jessica Mendoza have played
it well for a lot of years too, and so
what kim Ming is doing is really great. I'll say
that I've worked with kim before with the Marlins, and

(01:15:48):
she did a dynamite job with that organization, even getting
them to the playoffs. So I think whatever came in
touches turns into goal candy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Some thoughts I'm happy to see women's sports come to
fruition and to get some of the highlighting that they have.
Women's women's basketball. Caitlin Clark has brought an awareness to
w n b A and to the college game for

(01:16:19):
that matter. Page Breckers, she brought, you know, to basketball.
Good for Kim Aing. She had a great career. She
was a GM in the in the in the major
leagues with Miami. She was also with Yankees at one point.
She's actually on the she actually has a vote on

(01:16:41):
the Baseball Hall of Fame. What we were just talking about.
But kudos to her for starting up this new softball,
professional softball for women. It's just another avenue for women
to show off their talents in sports. And kudos to
her for bringing the major league into it. Just like

(01:17:01):
the NBA helps the WNBA, major League Baseball is helping
women's softball. I love it. I used to play softball,
and there wasn't a position on the field that I
have not played, so I love and I loved both.
I've played both fast pitch and slow pitch, and I've
been both a catcher and a pitcher, so I love

(01:17:23):
I love it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Southern bride.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
I love women's sports. I think I've figured out the
key for sports to be popular. Do not play when
other major sports are on. So if you're the WNBA,
obviously you're not competing with the Finals right now, you're
not competing really with the College World Series. You're not

(01:17:51):
competing with the NFL or college football. So start a league.
Play it when there are literally no other sports that
people can consume. And if you're a sports junkie like me,
I will find the sports on the TV and I
will be entertained. The w n b A has done

(01:18:13):
a better job of this lately. So women, if you
want me to pay attention to you, number one, never mind,
I won't say number one because it's kind of political.
We'll save that for another day. But you know what
I'm talking about. And number two play when nobody else plays.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Interesting point, Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I think it's someone. I'll tell you baseball you better
watch out because you know, college softball is a great
spectator sport.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
I've said that I podcasting baseball fasten yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
I mean you know it's fast, it's intense, it's a
quick game, and you know baseball's are ready losing spectators.
No one's no one's coming to watch the chess match anymore.
You know, the chess match was the thing. It's a
very Baseball is a very intellectual game, and and people
don't know what's going on, and and and I think

(01:19:16):
the comparison is tennis to pickleball. Everybody wants to play pickleball.
You go out, get a paddle. It's a it's a
basically standing on top of a ping pong table, and
in thirty minutes you can be having a game, and
a decent game. Tennis is very highly skilled, it's highly
you know, it's highly complex, and it's not easy for
John Q Public to join in. And baseball is slow

(01:19:39):
and complex. Softball is quick, it's fast, it's intense. The
short game makes it makes it more intense. So you know,
you're losing all these MLB fans to hockey because it's
fast and there's fighting, there's violence, and and I think
it's a decent investment for sure. I'll be interested to

(01:20:01):
see how it goes. And MLB I think has flapped
a lot of investments, so I hope they can support this.
Kim's probably the right person to have at the helm
of this and so that's pretty exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
You know what, Kane says, we need fifty more Kaitlin
Clark's boy, and that's the first. Let's see if we
can get at least the second one, let alone as
forty eight more. But yeah, right, all right, George, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
Oh I'm all for it. You know, Kim's the right
person to lead it. We've talked before on your shows
about the NHL not getting behind the women's professional hockey league,
yet I think this is overdue. Women's softball is very popular.
My goddaughter used to play on the community college team
here in Warren, Michigan, and I'd watch the games and

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follow her season, and it was just a great, great
opportunity I know, for her and other young women to
play softball, especially on the collegiate level. So I'm all
for it, and yes, I second emotion that Kim is
the right person for it. Basor league baseball. What's taking
you so long? That's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
So everybody else have their opinion on it. Is there
anything else you want to add? Jd Wyatt will lay
in a moment, I'll give you the last word on it.
How's that?

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
Well, I just I'll respond to what the comments just said,
the WNBA needs fifty more Caitlin Clarks I said, I'll
tell you what, if you give me more fifties, I'll
take twenty more Angel Reeses. I'm all, dude, I love
the college If you haven't watched the women's college World

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Series as we've got the men's going like, if you
haven't watched the softball one, I am all in on
women's sports. And if you're not, I don't know what
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Well, I'll reiterate what I said. If for any other
show with this one, this one gets a little bit
more to the top of the food show, But in
this particular case, when yeah show Hey, O, Tany and
a lot of the other things that we're talking about tonight,
then this one is exactly It's good to have balance
with these subjects anyway throughout the show. I'm glad that
we are deep enough and what we're doing that we're

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able to do it. Yeah, we need more brick layers.
Well that's pretty interesting comment. All right, We'll leave it
at that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
Please say it. We need a lot of everything is
basically what we need. We need. Everybody need. The braves
need stuff, The Dodgers. They've had twelve players injured this year.
Baseball is a weird game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Okay, two more subjects. I want to get to number one.
I'll be seeing him in a a few weeks in Georgia.
We seeing him an awful lot. But the story of
Jack kaglion Waglioni is unbelievable. He's the top prospect. The
home run in the fourth straight game in triple and
to and the action. All right, let me go again,

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because there's a lot to bite off on Jack. He
actually hovered in his four straight game in Triple A
on June second. The Royals called him up and he's
a twenty twenty four number six overall project from the
Florida Gators. And then Harold Reynolds predicts that Jack is different.
We're going to be talking about this guy for years
to come. Again with the Florida Gators. I know about

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them because the Florida Gators are a media distribution partner.
So Eric, I'm gonna surn off with you on this.
What do you think about Jack cag Leoni.

Speaker 7 (01:23:33):
It's incredible.

Speaker 6 (01:23:35):
I mean, a four straight game that's a pretty hard,
pretty hard to do. I mean, starting very hard. It's
never been harder in these days. They had a home run,
especially with these guys. Just who are even the back
end the guy in the back of the bullpen throwing
ninety eight two. But it's not it's not it's not
easy to do, but it's just it's just incredible what
he's what he's doing at such an early age.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Sure as all right, J D.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Wyatt, Jack Kagleon. I paid attention to him down when
he was playing for Florida. Right, he is one of
the best two way players coming out of college. Honestly,
he had the potential to be of very mild mediocre
version of show Hey O Tawny when it came to

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pitching and hitting. Obviously, though he's made his way to
the MLB, So yeah, Jack Kagleon, he's managed to make
his way to the MLB hitting with aluminum bats all
the way to the MLB where he now hits with
wooden bats.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Well, you were definitely gonna make sure you've got that
in somewhere, and now I fed this guy exactly what
he wanted. Don't worry, Eric, we all know where you
stand on both. But I would wait for JD. White
to bring up the illuminum bats. So JD, I'm gonna
give you a cluiz. What did GMTA stand for? Again?

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
Great think alike.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
On Thursday Night too? All right, good stuff. That was
a quick quizz, all right, Trent, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
I don't I don't love the Harold Reunds comment like
I did. The kids a great ballplayer and like, listen,
there's a ton of guys who hit four home runs
in triple A, like in four days in a row,
like this is not new, you know, hanging on that.
We're gonna be talking about these guys forever. You know.
For for every Joe Mauer that you actually do talk

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about forever, there's twenty guys that are like, oh, this
guy's gonna be the next blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. Like you know what, don't hang them on
those kids, man. Just let him go out and play.
Let's see what he is about. It's fun that he's special,
it's fun that he's had a great week a week like,

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but you know what, he's gonna go up there and
see some stuff that's not the same. And I'm gonna
disagree with Katsi even though I love the guy. Catsie
it's easier than ship hit home runs now because no
one knows how to pitch. They go three and oh,
they go two and oh, they fall behind trying to
run up the gun, and then they gotta throw some
cock diesel right down the middle at two and oh

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at one hundred miles an hour, and that's a very
easy ball to make contact with and use the force
of that they're generating and turn it around. So the
long ball is not the biggest and hardest thing to
hit anymore. So these kids who don't know how to pitch,
and especially at the minor league level, they're challenging. This
is that all of these kids who are like California

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League All Stars and blah blah blah, it means nothing
to what you're going to be in the major leagues.
It means jack nothing. You have two hundred and fifty
young players in the minor leagues in every organization, and
only twenty five are going to make the major league roster.
That's ten percent, the best ten percent are gonna make it.

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So when you're sitting down there playing a ball even double,
you're only sitting at the best. You know, now, you're
only at the second half of that of the best
one hundred and twenty five players still in the game,
So like, you're a long way from being a guy
in that league in the show. So stop hanging this

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stuff on. Oh we're gonna be talking about him forever.
And you know the sad thing is, and nothing against Jack,
because I'm sure Jack's a great player, but like, what
if he slides into a bag and tears up his ankle,
then all of a sudden you can't run right and
all of a sudden, like, oh, you know what he
could have been? What is this all that bs like,
you know what, Let the kid play out, Let its

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see what happens and let him just keep progressing. He's
progressing great right now, and that's fabulous. Let's leave it
at that, Harold Reynolds. Don't hang that crap on him,
because you know who was the worst hanging to scrap
on him was our own Detroit's own Sparky Anderson, who
loved to hang the big title on some guy who's
just coming up in the league and he's gonna be

(01:27:59):
the next whatever, Like, let's just see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
I'll fill in the blank, Nicky Mantle, right, I knew
where you're doing with this one, and we was going
to mister Detroit Georgia.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
I think you're referring to Chris Pataro. Chris Pataro was
one of Sparky's guys.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
I think, oh, man, there's probably five or seven of them, right, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
I'm sure, I'm sure. You know. Yeah, there's a lot
of pressure. I'll put this in perspective. Okay, this guy
was just drafted last year by the Kansas City Royals
in the first round, sixth overall. I'm talking about the
twenty twenty four Major League Draft. So they're giving him
a shot right now. He earned his way to get
this shot in the big leagues. There's no guarantee. There's

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no guarantee at all. But they had enough confidence in
him and seeing what he has been doing in the
minor leagues, and as you guys mentioned from the University
of Florida, we're in an outstanding career. This is so important.
This is important because this is a kid that needs
a chance, and there are a lot of them out there.
Every team has these guys. But you're right, on Trent,

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this is not a guarantee. You are facing the best
pitchers in baseball. You're facing the best coaching staffs in baseball,
and there's a lot of work that goes into becoming successful.
It doesn't happen overnight. So give this kid a chance.
That's what the Royals are doing. He may not last,
I mean, may not stay up, but the rest of

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this year we don't know yet. But he's getting an opportunity. Okay.
And for Jack kay Leoni, I give you the credit there.
You're you're working hard at your craft and you want
to see this thing come true. But don't lose hope.
Don't give up. Even if the numbers go a little solid,
don't give up because you gotta hopefully a bright future.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Audio, Well, let's not lose sight of the biggest point
that a lot of people haven't gotten to this point.
And Eric, I'll turn you in a moment. Well, there's
a freshion my hat. Okay. Please. The Royals are good
when it cooks the player development. That's how they won
their last World Series. And I know what this kid
can do based on his body of workover Yar City
of Florida, and I thought they got it steal in

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the draft at number six. Now time will tell where
his career goes. That's another story. But when it comes
to player development, the Royals are really good at. In fact,
I covered the Florida stately back in the eighties. I
ever heard a guy by the name of Brett Saberhagen.
Guess what it came from within their system. The list
goes on and on, and this day's back many years

(01:30:27):
with what the Royals have done. So I like CAGLIONI
as a too early to tell you know it man
it is, but their track record for player development in
Kansas City is awfully good, and I will not sell
this team short. I don't care if he's using a
torpedo bat a court bat, it doesn't make any difference.

(01:30:48):
You still have to put bat on ball and that's
all I can really have to say. I mean, waiting
chalk around about torpedo doesn't matter. You have to make
sure the object of the game in baseball has put
back on ball, period, no matter how we want to
get philosophical about this whole thing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
That's what I was, That's what I was going to
say right there, Candy just showed it. That was my
response to what you said, Scott. Yeah, they think alike,
because Andy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
We're getting through this guy. I'm no problem. Rememory this thing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
Trust. I trust the Royals to develop a young player.
I mean there are certain teams that have good farm systems.
There are certain teams like the Yankees, who just sign
everybody else's good players from their farm sistem.

Speaker 7 (01:31:35):
Not true.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
Don't get me started there. No, I don't want to.
That will be another night.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
Yeah yeah, no, that's fine, but not tonight. Okay, No, Royals.
I trust developing players.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Oh yeah, I mean, no question. But you know what
their trun corrector goes back along long ways. I saw
that back in the eighties when they played in Fort
Myers with the Fort Myers Royals. I saw him play
with the Fort La Really, Yankees, I mean, this isn't
just something that recently happened. This is something they've been
doing a long time. And now we're just bringing up
Jack cag Leoni because most of the audiences we have
these days a little bit younger anyway. But but mark

(01:32:10):
my word, Jad, I breathe you. That's why I brought
it up in the birthplace. I'm not gonna put the
next Nicking Mantle on this guy, but I'll tell you
one then. Don't sell the Royal shirt in terms of
player development. All right, Eric, you go ahead and Candy
can finish up topic. One more topic, Kid to point
all of the night.

Speaker 6 (01:32:28):
I mean, there's gonna be times where prospects, these guys
just get figured out.

Speaker 7 (01:32:31):
It's just part of the deal these the pit.

Speaker 6 (01:32:33):
It's never been easier nowadays to figure a guy out
with all this technology and video and all that other stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
It is.

Speaker 6 (01:32:39):
It is just you know, unfortunately, it is just a
it's just it's just how it's just how we go
about it nowadays. It is just unfortunately, it's just like
you know, but you know, the best ones adjust and
we'll see if kad they don't can adjust.

Speaker 7 (01:32:52):
I mean, that's just the way the game is. These
guys always get figured out.

Speaker 6 (01:32:55):
And I think we all get guilty of of prospect hyping.

Speaker 7 (01:32:58):
Every team, does it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Okay, Trent, go ahead, Candy has a last word.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Yeah, I just think that, like, you know, when we
talked about this, I was looking up, you know, players
that actually went to the major leagues that played very
little in the minors, you know, like Alex Rodriguez, h Ken,
Griffy Jr. Very long. Of course, John Olarude never played
a single game of the miners, which is pretty impressive.
And then the last guy was Mike Leak. Anyone remember

(01:33:23):
that guy Mike Leak who was drafted by the Reds
in nine out of Arizona State. I don't know what
happened to Mike League's career, but it wasn't a it
was not a Hall of Fame career, and he never
played the game in the miners. Like, and it's no
knock on Mike League. Like it's a hard league, but like, uh,
you know, it rarely works out to expedite guys that fast.

(01:33:44):
But you know, we'll see, we'll see how it plays.
There's always some special players in there, so we'll see
how it works.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
That's not a little city of the fact that al
kala I never played the minor leagues either or believe
it at that Candy had the last word on the left.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Good one, nice one.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Cag Leone grew up in Tampa, Florida. He tore his
all in our collateral ligament in his left elbow why
playing in a postseason All Star Game after his senior season,
subsequently undergoing Tommy John surgery. So in high school, he
was a two pitch pitcher who featured a mid nineties.

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Fastball projected around ninety four miles an hour and measured
up to a ninety seven to ninety eight. He also
threw a slur which was like a curveball, while his
throws as a first basement were projected to be ninety
miles per hour, so he threw fast.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
He's art.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
We talked about Tommy john surgery earlier. Yes, he has
made his major league debut. He has not pitched though
for a while now. He became the seventh Major League
baseball rookie this year with a four hit game this
season as well, so it's very early on. I hope

(01:35:03):
wish him the best. I do remember he was very
good at Florida because I remember posting a lot of
different articles with his name on it. So good luck
to him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
Okay to the night, Eric, you get to ran on
it first, everybody else gets to comment. We talk about
Robbie ls Devs being traded to the San Francisco Giants,
will let Eric have the first word and everybody else
gets talk about it while I break down the gist
of the trade.

Speaker 6 (01:35:30):
I'm starting to believe though, that if you become like
the best player on the Red Sox that your job
is eventually going to be moved to California. It's happened
with Betts, It's happened with Bogarts, and now Devers is
the latest.

Speaker 7 (01:35:43):
How stupid can the Red Sox be? You trade away
arguably your best offensive player.

Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
To the Giant just because your general manager's ego is
hurt because you you didn't communicate with him in the offseason,
the guy you designated your franchise player, you know, say hey,
you know you're the very least you could have done
was give him a phone call and say, hey, we
we really are thinking about signing signing Bregman.

Speaker 7 (01:36:09):
He's objectively a better defensive player. Here's our plan for you.

Speaker 6 (01:36:13):
I'm sure if the communication happened, it would have gone
along with it. Instead, he's blindsided and finds out, oh yeah,
you're dhing. Then all of a sudden, no, we want
you in the field. Well, what you told him to
forget his glove and now you give his glove. The
guy's confused and he's frustrated because you have no idea
what you want from him. It's just, it's just it
was just another incredibly stupid move on the Boston Red

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Sox part. That's why they're in the position they're in,
and that's why that I think that's why they keep
on just extending the rebuild.

Speaker 7 (01:36:43):
They were counting on Devors to be that guy. He would.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
He was arguably having a career where I think his
jersey number would have been retired by the Boston Red Sox.
I think he's on a Hall of Fame, hall of
fame trajectory if things keep going.

Speaker 7 (01:36:57):
But Boston screwed this up.

Speaker 6 (01:36:59):
They not only that, but they caught him at the
absolute worst time on and just right at the timing
of it.

Speaker 7 (01:37:08):
Couldn't have been worse.

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
After the Red Sox swept the Yankees, you announce the
trade and boom, you just poured cold water on what
has been the high point of the Red Sox season
so far.

Speaker 7 (01:37:18):
It's gonna be a long year for Boston. They are done.

Speaker 6 (01:37:21):
There's no way you recover from trade a star player
that abruptly. There is just no way. Don't be don't
be shocked, though, if if Boston ends up just totally cratering,
regardless of Alex Fragman's coming back, because there's Fragman's not
the kind of guy that can lift teams to New Heights.
Fragman is more like a Robin to a batman. He
was that way, and he was that way in Houston

(01:37:42):
when with guys like George Springer and Jose al Tuvan
Carlos Carrera around. The guy was never the guy, the
go to guy. He wasn't even the best player on
that team. But man, it's it's gonna be a long
year for Boston. Yeah, you bring the kids up and
we'll see how We'll see how it goes, but count
on it being another cold are October at fut out

(01:38:02):
in Beantown for the Red Sox, and nobody is smiling
more than yours, truly, because I no longer have to
deal with him in the American leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
There you go, great rant. So let me go with
a Let me go with the details of the trade
as it was conducted and finalized today. The trade is
that Raphael Devers goes to the San Francisco Giants. Boston's
returners Kyle Harrison, Jordan Hicks, two prospects, Jose Bellow and
James Tibbs. All right, Jade Watt, give me your thoughts
on this trade.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Well, I mentioned it to you guys earlier. My dirty
sea wards, chemistry, culture, commitment, camaraderie, all of those things.
And guess what you can add to the list we
already mentioned clutch and this other one. Cancer. Sometimes there

(01:38:53):
is a cancer in the locker room. Sometimes there are
people that are infecting people in other ways. And everything
I have heard is that Rafael Devers was a cancer
in the locker room. So I get it why he

(01:39:14):
could be sour about not being also a dirty sea
word communicated with. So it was wrong on both sides.
Boston and Devers, both of them have done wrong. Let's
just go ahead and cut ways. Let's see if we

(01:39:34):
can get a fresh start. We'll see what happens. But
that is my outside perspective on the whole thing. And
that listen, Like I said.

Speaker 7 (01:39:45):
That was what I tied it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Dude, I've heard he was negative in the locker room.
I mean, I'm not here for that. I'm not here
for negative negativity. Scott. You know that we here for
negativity on South Florida Tribune.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Are we no? No? All like this? No, we're not.
Absolutely I'm with you there, Okay, Well, going to Trent,
who's been in one of these clubhouses nine million times
over here, talks about the trade, and I should point
out the specific So the trade that Eric was referring
to the court of the Dodgers received Mookie Betts and

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David Price or rets Hots ended up getting jetered down,
Alex Vertigo and Connor Wong. So those are the what
Derek was talking about this one to fill in the
planks there, So now go ahead, Trent.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Yeah, I think there's a thousand reasons why clubs trade players, right,
And you know, I always relate to the fact that
the fans know about ten percent of what's going on
inside the clubhouse, and you can all speculate on what
it is and what it's not, but organizations are going
to make their decisions based on business, and it's a

(01:40:51):
business decision and for whatever reason, this is what they're
gonna do. You know, you hope that these trades work
out and there's balance in it. And sometimes you've got
to play a little long game, right because you give
somebody up and a young player and five years later like,
oh yeah, we got this guy on the Bets trade

(01:41:13):
and it's you know, he's a fabulous contributor now, and
so there's a long game you're playing. But it's often
it's often rare that I hear media the teams tie
it back to that trade and what we were looking
to do, and here's our plan. Because as we all know, teams,
everything is something to change. So we're we're all just

(01:41:35):
sitting on a speculation of why they did what they did,
and you know, not sure how the fans feel about it,
but and I don't really have a feeling about it,
really like Boston's clutching because they look a little desperate
right that they're they're not sitting very strong in the East,
and the East is really tough, and I'm sure there's

(01:41:57):
a lot of pressure and uh, it'll be interesting to
see how it plays out long term. But you know,
a lot of people shaking their heads on some of
these trades.

Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
Good Caretsy, I'll tell you what though.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
I mean, first off, that rumor about him being being
a quote unquote cancer in the locker room was I'm
one hundred percent sure it was leaked by Craig Breslow.

Speaker 7 (01:42:17):
Or or John Henry.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
I'm not sure why why people want to want to
take them at the world when there's no when there's
nobody more full of it than John Henry. They the
locker room was shocked when he was traded.

Speaker 7 (01:42:31):
Everybody in the locker room liked the guy.

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
I have never heard a negative thing said about Raphael
Devers in the locker room. I am you know, I'm
one hundred percent sure this was between Craig Breslow and
and Raphael Devers. They the Red Sox should have communicate
with their franchise player in the off season, saying, hey,
we're thinking, here's what we're thinking, here's what it's gonna do,
and here's what your role is gonna look like, instead

(01:42:54):
of saying, instead of just abruptly and abruptly pulled the
wool over his eyes moving to designate here, which his credit,
he still continued to rake despite despite that kind of
a slow start in April, and you and then you
go ahead and turn around and say when Tristan Costas
gets hurt, you're so desperate because you have no other
first basement, saying we kind of need you to play
first base. Now you're messing with the guy's routine. This

(01:43:16):
has nothing to do with Devers is locked in the
locker room. This has everything to do with Craig Breslow's ego.

Speaker 7 (01:43:22):
That's bigger than the city of Boston. It is.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
It is awful. No let me finish Southern pride. It
this is a This was between Breslow and also Devers.
It had nothing to do with with Devers and his teammates.
The locker room was shocked, matter of fact, that they're
probably so shaken up that I'm not even sure if
they'll they'll be able to put a picky toe out on.

Speaker 7 (01:43:46):
The dirt tonight against the Seattle Mariners. It is.

Speaker 6 (01:43:49):
It had everything to do with Breslow and the as
well as Devers and their relationship. The Red Sox completely
screwed this up. They screwed it up so badly, worse
than anything Bill Buckner ever did when he boot, when
he the unfortunate distinction of booting the ground ball.

Speaker 7 (01:44:07):
It had nothing to do with him being a cancer
in the clubhouse.

Speaker 6 (01:44:11):
I wanted to make that clear for all, for those
of us who are from the not those of us
who have spent who have not spent a whole lot
of time try to go watching the comings and goings
of the American League East over the years.

Speaker 7 (01:44:24):
This was between Breslo and Devers.

Speaker 6 (01:44:28):
This is the Red Sox with their with their feelings
hurt because they want because they didn't communicate with Devers
and thinking that they can tell him what to do
despite paying him all that money. Not a cancer, I
can I can bet you, I can bet you his
salary that his teammates had nothing but nice things to
say about him. Heck, you should have seen Sedan and
Raphaella's tweet today. He was heartbroken.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
Okay, George and Tandy, then we wrap up the show.
Go ahead, George.

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
I have very little add I just think it's a
shame that they made this trade. I do feel that
the fans have been cheated in Boston. As he so
well put by Eric Katz regarding the players that have
left this team in the last several years, has not
been good. I don't know what they're trying to do there. Obviously,

(01:45:19):
the season, I agree, is on the is on the
skits right now. I mean they got, yeah, they got
three to four or five players whatever in this hall
that they hope are going to work out. But we'll
see what happens. But to throw throw this guy under
the bus and have such a terrible, terrible parting of
the ways at such a critical part of the season,

(01:45:41):
I think it's a huge mistake, and the Red Sox
are going to lift to regret it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Katie.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
There's reports out there that he asked for a trade
back in spring training, So are we really that surprised?

Speaker 7 (01:45:55):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Maybe, but Boston doesn't always do things very intelligently. I mean,
let's face it, he had eight he has eight years,
eight plus years and two hundred and fifty million dollars
left on his three hundred and thirteen point five million
dollars extension. Most teams aren't interested in paying a DH

(01:46:18):
thirty million dollars a year. Today's game prioritizes flexibility.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
All right, all I'm gonna add to this is the
Boston Red Sox have not been the same since the
Epstein left Number one item number one, number two. This
one bite Boston badly, but you know who ended up
looking pretty good when it's all said done. What about
Buster Posey at the Giants and got the guy for
practically nothing. And if you're looking for a way to
put separation or make it interesting in the National League,

(01:46:47):
Buster Posy the time for all of us to invest
into a genius cap because that's exactly what he looks like.
This will not be a good look for the Red Sox,
it just will not look good. So, Katie, I know
we talked about cancers in the locker room, but the
main thing is, and I'll give you credit, okay, you
to this, hits his first run with this group here.

(01:47:09):
He does cover sports, and he's been to the locker
rooms and he gets credential, so he knows what it's
like to be in the locker room with his network,
which he'll have a chance in a moment for hope
in a second. But when it comes to an MLB clubhouse,
it's just a different animal. It just really really is.
And the way they do things. Anything you want to

(01:47:32):
add to that or debate, Candy, I see some interesting
looks headed my way. Nope, okay, so it doesn't look
good for Boston. Buster Posey looks like a genius and
the Giants. I wish it would saw him now instead
of a couple of weeks ago. And Trevers we trust.
Though we've covered an awful lot of ground.

Speaker 5 (01:47:54):
Tonight, Scott, the one thing you just mentioned, I will
say something about it. It'll be really interesting to see
what teams turn into buyers and sellers over the next
few weeks, coming up to the trade deadline.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
Well, where you'll be back on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
I already see a rivalry brewing between you and Eric Katz.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
So I no, no, it's respect that all.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Right, we'll call what you on, Eric, you know what.
Ll let me tell you something, Eric, guys like you.
He doesn't care because we.

Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
Got to get different our words. We got dirty sea words.
Now we're gonna work on dirty our words.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
Okay, this let me tell you, Southern Pride, this will
be your last. I think he did pretty well. Everybody
in this panel. You think you did all right tonight? Uh,
Southern you know you don't think so. All right, we'll
put you back at it with Eric Kats.

Speaker 7 (01:48:49):
So you came, you came into the ring though. That's
a start.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Yeah, I'll tell you one thing, Eric Katz, I'll tell
you what he's flatt Mark man Citi once upon a
time on the show. Georgie remembers that show. Donh Yeah,
I'll tell you Eric Hauld put up boxing goals with anybody.
But with all due respects Southern Fried, your first back
here in the Baseball Show is good. You said you
want to be with the big boys. I'll tell you
what on Inside depict it and I got underneath to
the baseball talk. You know, Jerone, I'll give you that. Okay,

(01:49:13):
it's all right, But Catsie's one guy who knows more
knowledge at his young age of thirty than most people
know in their fifties, sixties, and seventies. Just remember that.
I know. That's why he's one of our stars here
on this network, on this particular show. But that said,
we're running out of time here, so I don't want
to prevent anybody from giving out their intro stincts or

(01:49:33):
hanging with us. Everybody on the panel, we appreciate it.
It's our last show before Candy and I hit the
road anyway on our crew, So all right, Southern probably
won't you let everybody know how they get a hold
of you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
You can find me on Southern Fried Sports on YouTube
at Southern Fried Sports. JD. Please make sure to hit
me with a subscribe. You can find me on X
or Twitter, whatever you want to call it at j
D Wyatt zero six, and make sure to follow all
of these fantastic people, George, Candy, Scott, Trent, Eric, listen,

(01:50:08):
it's been a pleasure y'all. Wore out a couple of
my crayons tonight taking notes and so y'all be blessed,
not stressed, and just be kind and respectful. New dirty
art word on Southern Front Sports.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Great stuff. All right, we'll be talking to you. Obviously,
he's gonna hang around a little bit here today as
we discussed his uster plans with the network. So but anyways, Trent,
why don't shill everybody know how they get ahold of you?

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
Yeah, you can bring me a trend at leadership dy
dot com, Leadership it y dot com. I'm the host
of Pinners Find a Way. You can check out our
podcast on all the major networks and we're live every
Thursday at ten thirty am Eastern, seven thirty am Pacific
and starting a new podcast with Winning Ways and uh
can wait to throw that out on spreaker. Getting excited
about that show. Just recording some episodes right now with that.

(01:51:01):
And I am the author of Leading Winning Teams as
most people know, long time to coach in professional Baseball
in three World Series and started fourteen companies and the
mix of sports and business. Check it out Leading Winning
Teams and how you can win every day.

Speaker 4 (01:51:17):
I'm George, go ahead, all right, I'm a contributor on
the South Florida Tribune website and under the contributor section
at the end of my column there's always a link
there to my book, which is Detroit Sports Broadcasters on
the Air, Chronicling of eighty ninety years of sports broadcasting
in the MotorCity. And Scott's in the book, and Ernie

(01:51:38):
Harwell and all these great baseball guys we've had in Detroit,
Paul Kerry, Frank Beckman, and on and on. Hey listen. Also,
you can find me at Yahoo at gikarn at yahoo
dot com, on Twitter or x at san ge Sports
ninety nine. I'm also active on LinkedIn as well under
my name. So great show Tonight going to be part

(01:51:59):
of the series, and.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
This you know, George I, Corny and J. D. Wyan
are going to be pairing up for a couple episodes
of Fire Up in the next couple of weeks. So
I'm looking forward to having those two on that particular show.
All right, Eric, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:52:14):
You can follow me on my ex and Twitter account
at sports Team News, where I tweet about all all
things baseball, and you can follow me on my blog
at which is at bellyffsports dot com, where I'm writing
about all things baseball. And if you think I hate
your team, yes, I probably despise your team.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Everybody's got to catch race, that says. And also let
ever know that he also writes some of the internet
Baseball Writers Association of America. He got me involved with
the group, and they've really been pretty nice to me,
so I appreciate him getting me involved with them. All Right, Katie,
take us the rest of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
So I'm just going to quick do a follow up
just for everybody's attention. Show Hey has pitched to five batters,
one ing so far, two hits, one run, so one
earned run on him so far. They have just finished
the top of the first so it is still ongoing

(01:53:10):
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(01:53:33):
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(01:54:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Thank you, Kendy, just let it. Programming note, Steven Raich
show will be taking over over the next couple of weeks. JD.
Wyant and George Jonne will be the familiar faces that
you will see during our absence, so stay tuned. He
does plan to do a baseball show next week, I
won't know, but we'll be in touch with them all
the way around. So George has been my longtime partner
in crime. To'll be actually hosting a show or two

(01:55:15):
in my absence, and I have no doubt between Steven,
JD Wyatt and Stephen right Shall that these three are
going to do a capable job. The next time you
see this group back together probably about two or three weeks.
Will keep you posted, so stay tuned for updates on
Facebook as well as Twitter and so forth. With me
a whole great children night with this group. I'm glad
all you all were able to hang in there with us.

(01:55:36):
We had a lot to get to but we are
the cover of the ground. So J d Wyatt, great
first back to here, and he did a fine job
on the Football Show. And obviously you're going to be
busy while we're going, so we're counting on some pretty
good things to view the compliment Stephen right Shall as well, Trent, Well,
guess what. Hopefully I'll catch up with the in Michigan,

(01:55:56):
depending on how the schedules work out. We're going to
see if we can get that from you, and I'll
be in touch privately. George is certain that we're going
to get together when I get back to Michigan, but
we have a couple more shows we need to get
done this week. Eric, what can I say? Man, keep
those rants coming. I love your energy and your knowledge
or anybody better than anybody that tries to go with

(01:56:16):
Toto Toe of you with baseball, they're in for a
bit of a challenge. We know that. That's why you're
our star here on this particular show. Candy your star period,
no matter what you do. So I'm done for the night. Well,
such as Baseball talk the terms of the different format
next week and we'll keep you posted, but we'll see
in about two or three weeks. So, but that's said

(01:56:38):
our revoir. I don't even know what it is. Good bye,
but we're going to Iceland. We're going to Norway, We're
going to Belgium, We're going to the UK. Once got Norway,
we got Belgium. Wait, am I missing any hold on, Matt?

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
You started London, you go to Belgium, you go to Amsterdam,
you go to three different spots in Norway, and then
three different spots in Iceland. Back to London and then on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Yeah, so let's get the country. We've got Netherlands, we
got Belgium, then we have Norway, then we had Iceland,
and then we have UK. That's all I have to say.
We're done for the night, but we'll keep her rolling
and Steven right, shall I know you'll make us proud.
This group is made me proud, proud of every one
of you that participated on the show. More importantly, thanks

(01:57:24):
very much for those invent will participate in the chat
room ksys key digits and the list goes on, Am
I forgetting give money? I hope not. But this is
a couple that stand down there. JD White, outstanding job
interacting with everybody in the chat room. This guy gets
at people. He really does So that does it for
us tonight, and we'll see you tomorrow night on Inside

(01:57:45):
the pitch Gun. Our show there begins at around eight
thirty pm Eastern time. Good night, everybody, thanks for joining us,

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