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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Good evening. Everybody walk up till Monday night baseball. Yes,
I don't care about the people that did it in
the past. Who cares we're doing it. I got six
of us. We're gonna be talking about a lot of
on his day because a lot happened on September eighth
of whatever the year. Maybe we'll be talking about the
New York match that I'll make Rob feel pretty good.

(00:43):
The Detroit Tigers and George roy Corn doesn't know anything
outside of Detroit anyways, although he pretends to try to
do it. Anyway, We got the Milwaukee Brewers, and we
have a whole lot more in the house. Have our
manager Mickey Kellaway. I have to skip back ye.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I was waiting for some voys to come out of there,
but the body language is good. Although he's probably saving
up for the marathon, he's in for it anyways, it
doesn't matter. And we have our statistician. Candy Impling is
back on.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hello everybody, great to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
She was part of that incredible showed that Skipp and
I and Candy did on Saturday, New York Y Inky
Do or Die BOYD? Did we do really really really
well on that one? Eric Katz will beyond that show
beginning of Saturday, Cat say, welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Back in the hole, Thanks Scott. Good to be back.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
And we have George Korn Hello, hello folks and laughing
not least, we have Rob Morosca, the man when New
York MLB Talk showed that's growing very well right now
with him at Chris Pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'll just mentioned pizza tonight because it's probably the most
popular hashtag in it and his name. I like mentioning her.
Chris is the greatest kid. No, I like, haven't had
a lot of fun, but Rob did to have you
back on the Monday night show.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
Good to be back, Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Right, Well, we were busy attenda tonight. So what we're
gonna do is a lot of fun tonight. We're gonna
talk about some on this date topics is boy, A
lot of things have definitely happened, that's for sure. So
with this said said, and this one, I had to
give it to Rob okay, because this one is really
tough for him. I'm gonna pigger him right off the bat.

(02:22):
On this dank September eighth, nineteen ninety three, Astro Darryl
Kyle throws a no hitter again to New York match.
Oh my god. At twenty four, Kyle went on to
win fifteen games, one hundred and seventy one point two.
In his pitch seven thirty three battered face rob no
hitter against the mess I know that has to break

(02:43):
your heart, doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
I remember that game, of course, I remember all the
no hitters against the Mets. I was at Sure's. There's
no hitter against the Mets in twenty fifteen, right before
the postseason. Yeah, he was young and he and he
no hit the me. That's happened a couple of times, right,
So it was not fun. I mean from a baseball prospect,

(03:07):
of course, it's fun to see a no hitter. But
if you're a Met fan or whatever team you're a
fan of and they get no hit, it's not fun.
We know that. But you know you got to give
him credit at that age, no hitting the team. What
do he you know? Great baseball?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
All right, Skip, you can talk about this one. Of course,
there haven't been allowed of no hitters. I'll everybody have
a crack and one. Skip, when are you talking about
Daryl Kyle? You know much about the guy.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Used to love to watch him pitch. I kind of,
you know, tried to emulate him to a degree. He
had that good curveball that you know, I kind of
pitched with the curveball. So I kind of paid attention
to him as he was going through his career because
I wanted to, you know, be the best I could be.
I didn't never quite live up to the Darryl caliber player,

(03:54):
but I really loved watching him pitch. You know, I
thought he was a great pitcher. He mixed it up
really well. Well. I really love the curve ball. And
you know, anytime you throw a no hitter, that goes
down in baseball lore right for forever, you are the
man that threw a no hitter in the in the
Major League. So I'm sure that tons of people talk

(04:15):
about that with him when they see him. Hey man,
I remember you threw a no hitter in the major leagues.
That's what an accomplishment that is. And you know, it's
very rare that a player gets to do that, unless
you're Nolan Ryan.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Going ill. Don't worry, We'll be talking a lot about
so for sure, Ker Eric some talks about Darryl Kyle.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I mean, I remember Daryl Kyle More a lot more,
probably let toward the latter part of his career where
he had that brief career resurgent with the with the
Saint Louis Cardinals where he's an All Star. But you know,
good for him though, for pitching a no hitter back
in back in nineteen ninety three. I mean, if there's
anything you'd want to do that that you want to
be remembered for, if you do nothing else in the
in the game of baseball, you get a no hitter,

(04:58):
they'll remember you forever.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
George, Yeah, I mean, you know, even if you have
a short career, sometimes you still got that gem and
no hit gem. It's still something to really obviously be
so damn proud of, which I'm sure he has, like
you said, guys, and and certainly I do remember him
for some of his good pitching. I mean, you know,
I didn't have a you know, truly outstanding year, but

(05:22):
I mean career, but that's very important.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
You got that at Teather in your cap. Man, That's
that's a special thing.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Andy.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
No hitters. There's been none this year in the history
of baseball. There's been what three hundred and thirty three
thirty three hundred and thirty eight games that fit that definition.
I've been to how many games in my lifetime I've
only seen one no hitter. I think my dad, who

(05:55):
ushered at a stadium for over twenty some years, saw
maybe one no hitter. Like, they're just rare. So you know,
anybody that can that throws one singly, it's awesome. I mean, yeah,
you hear these. Now some of them are a combined
no hitter. It's not quite the same like when one

(06:17):
pitcher can do the complete game. It's it's a rare feat,
especially in today's analytics where they're pulling guys before they
get how many pitches and how how complete? So kudos
to him.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well you getting the history of books for some reason.
No hitter isn't the worst thing in the world. So yeah,
more power to them, all right. On this date, September eight,
nineteen ninety eight, Mark McGuire breaks Roger and Merrier single.
He's in home run records, matching a sixty second hold
run of the air. Certainly, say, baseball skip, what are
your talking about? McGuire hitting that thinger back in nineteen
to eight ninety eight when baseball needed it.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I mean that is when baseball needed it the most,
right there was you know, talk of strikes and baseball
just wasn't gaining popularity, and then you see this home
run race that changed everything and put baseball way way
on the map. And ever since then, baseball has really
been thriving. So, you know, I'm so glad that those

(07:17):
two guys had that home run race and really rejuvenated
the game that we all love because it brought in
fans of all ages and those fans that were young
watching that race are still watching today, right they might
have been ten years old. Those are probably some of
the most you know, die hard baseball fans there is.

(07:39):
So what a great season that was to watch, and
it really really did. It was probably the single most
defining moment that I've been since I've been around as
far as baseball goes Candy.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
As a Lackey Brewer fan, here you're talking, uh, someone
that was playing for the opposing teams against us, So
you you didn't want to root for them, you didn't
want them to do hit the home runs, but yet
you were excited because yes, Mickey, they were bringing baseball
back to life for those people that weren't as avid

(08:21):
of fans. I mean, my dad, he was an usher,
so and I grew up watching baseball, so I was
there anyways.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
But for the fans, the very casual fans that that
didn't that it brought them back. I mean, it was
exciting to see, oh, did they get a home run today?
Did they not get a run? Who got a home run?
Who didn't? And to watch them bring the excitement back
to Major League Baseball was exciting to see.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Can't see I mean, I mean they they had a
documentary come out a little while ago about about that
home run with Long Gone Summer, which kind of covered
the excitement of it between between the two cities, between
Saint Louis and Chicago. I mean, it was great for baseball.
I don't care like what you want to what you
want to say about what they did do or didn't do,

(09:12):
but it was great for baseball. I mean, you know,
it was something that baseball truly needed at the time,
because when the strike of ninety four happened, baseball just
people were plenty mad about baseball, especially given the behavior
of the players and the owners back in nineteen ninety four,
and they you know, it was it was just great

(09:34):
for the sport. It gave people if we put baseball
kind of back on the map. It was on like
it became you know when Stuart Scott's or when Steuart
Scott's talking about it and questioning why so and so
doesn't have a home run? You know, it's a big deal.
But it was just great for the sport overall. I mean,
you know, I'll always say though, that was the I'd say,
you know, the summer of nineteen ninety eight really did

(09:56):
say baseball, George.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Yeah, that was memorable, no question about it.

Speaker 8 (10:02):
I mean, you know, even there, you know, the the
American League didn't play the National League as much as
they do, know that whole scenario about inner league play.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
But I'll tell you what. You know, you had to
be glued to your TV.

Speaker 8 (10:14):
You know, the Game of the week was on, and
then the uh, the extra supplemental coverage, you know when
when when ESPN would break in with stories such as this, Uh,
it was just so damn memorable and it was so
good to see. And and like you said, Eric, I mean,
you know, putting aside this stuff about whether this guy
was juiced in that guy I you know, you didn't

(10:35):
really dwell on that as a fan, you were more
you were more involved in which guy is gonna do it,
which guy's gonna win the title, They're both gonna end
up in a tie, what's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
So yeah, it was definitely a memorable year. I loved
it all the way.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Rob, Yeah, well, I agree with everyone else. It was
a great summer, exciting, like George said, with the special breaks.
That was with all the major league teams too. They
were all the broadcasts were updating every app bat during
that summer. Right the met games did it? Or any
other games that I watched did it? They were updating it.

(11:13):
So yeah, it brought baseball back from the strike. It
got some younger fans to enjoy the game. But you
know the real quick what George said, you know, the
jew we didn't care about the pds. We didn't care
about the juicing then, and neither did major League Baseball.
All Right, we have to remember that the commissioner, they

(11:34):
didn't care. They only cared about one thing, the home
run home run race, which the fans loved, and it
did bring baseball back.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, here's what I liked about it. Sammy Soso was
involved in that rights and I worked with Sammy with
the Gastonia Rangers. One of my favorite people, Sammy Sosa,
Slam and Sammy nobody cared like Rob said about PDS
all the other business. But Zieling didn't care about it.
He nearly broke the union and all of a sudden
he had to get it back. So I think that

(12:03):
will happen again in ninety and when he tell you that,
oh yeah, get ready for that one. But but Buck Celis,
Sammy Sosa, that's what happened. More to come on this date,
because it gets even better than that. On this date,
September eight, nineteen eighty five, Pete Rose ties Ty Cobb.

(12:23):
I like that tis time, okay, Ty Cobb on the
old time Hitsles with forty ninety one. Obviously late the
game would be suspended, enabling Rose to break the mark
at home as a member of the Cincinnati Mens since
he was a player manager, Skip, what are your talks
about Pete Rose and Ty Cobb? That was incredible one day?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, we all know that's some kind of feat because
Ty Cobb was the best player that ever played the game, right.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Scott, Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
If he's Tie and the best player that ever played
the game. Then he's done something special. No, Pete Rose,
I mean, what a hitter, right, that's the stance, the
way he played. You could not love Pete Rose when
you're growing up as a little kid, right, I mean
I wanted to run a catcher over just because of
Pete Rose, you know, when I was in little league. Yeah,

(13:18):
he was the man. I loved watching him play the game.
He played the game the way the game is supposed
to be played. He hit the way the game is
supposed to be played. That's how what a hitter should do.
Hit singles. If you run into a homer, you run
into a homer. Put the ball in play, make the
game more exciting. That's when the game was at its

(13:40):
peak excitement in my mind. Right, people played small ball,
They sacrificed at bats for the team. It was just
a great era in baseball for me. And I loved
the way Pete Rose swung the bat.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Candy, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
He was a switch hitter and his MLB's all time
leader and hits at four two hundred and fifty six.
He played in three thousand, five hundred and sixty two
games at bats he had fourteen thousand, fifty three at
bats he was the He had also has the third

(14:23):
longest hit streak in MLB history at forty four, and
he remains the last player to hit safely in forty
or more consecutive games. That says a lot, I mean,
considering he hasn't played since what he last played in
nineteen eighty six. I mean, he was a seventeen time

(14:46):
All Star, like when he put it. Stay what you
want about him not being in the Hall or why
he's not in the hall, but he was a hitter,
and he was a tremend the hitter.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Can't see.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I mean, you know, there is no there was nobody
in I don't think anybody in the sport will ever
equal or amount to what Pete Rose, ever he ever
amounted to in baseball because the guys don't, they don't
play like with nearly the reckless abandon that jump that
Pete Rose did. I mean, maybe maybe you could say
that about maybe you could say Bryce Harbor is a

(15:26):
little bit more of a water down Pete Rose, but
he's not Pete Rose. But you know, there's no one
who went out there played the game right, played hard
every night out no matter if the crowd, if the
stands are full or not, you know, because there was
there was a guy. You know, he just wanted to win.
I mean he did that when he helped Philadelphia, you know,
when he was later in his career, and the Reds
during the Big Red Machine years. But meant, you know,

(15:48):
Pete Rose, there's a reason that he's the all time
hits leader because he could hit. He could he could
hit him. He could just sit there and hit the ball.
I mean, the guy could just hit the ball anywhere
he pleased on any given night.

Speaker 8 (16:01):
George, I think he was such a student of the
game and he really really gave us all as we know,
every single game, every single night. I know, Sparky Anderson
just admired the heck out of him when they when
he managed them and Cincinnati, as you mentioned, Eric, the
Big Red Machine. Pete Rose, to me was epitomized just

(16:25):
the highest quality of a baseball player and effectiveness. Effectiveness.
He's a student of the game, student of art. They
talked about Ted Williams and he was a great hitter
and all the great things he did and study the
game and the art of hitting. But boyle boy, Steve,
I mean, Rose took it to another level. Rose always

(16:46):
you just never knew what you were going to get
with him. Obviously, hit double triples, home runs, whatever, but
he was such a great player and a great runner too.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
On those base paths. Man, he just he left nothing
out there. He played. He played it all.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Rob.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Of course, Charlie Hustle, nobody played the game harder than
Pete Rose, asked Ray Fossey. I mean he really hurt
Ray Fosse's career in that All Star Game when he
borrowed them over. He really did damage to him. I
was lucky enough to see Pete Rose play at Shase
Stadium whenever the Reds or the Phillies two came into town,

(17:27):
so I got to see him play quite often when
I was a kid and being a Met fan, remember
we hated Pete Rose for the nineteen seventy three National
League Playoffs to fight with Budd Allison. So I grew
up I admired him. Yes he was tough, but as
a kid, I grew up hating Pete Rose. And you

(17:49):
know that of course changed when I got older. But
in New York, if you were a Met fan, you
hated Pete Rose.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well now that he brought up Boss Rob I had
an opportunit Andre covering the Cactus League when he was
the announcer for the Oakland Asia interview.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
And raise a class act.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's a shame that it happened to him in the
lcinary game with all a doubt, but Kandy was there
watching me go out there and interview them and taking pictures.
It was Ray's died way too soon. But Ray Fosse
is a class act, and I'm glad you had an opportunity.
I mentioned that you guys ready for a couple more
historical on this date, but not this particular date. I'll

(18:28):
give you one, and maybe Milwaukee Brewer is not gonna
like to hear this one. But on July twenty second,
twenty thirteen, Ryan Brown gets suspended previously and he gets
out of it, but he previously got out of a
fifty game suspension the previous year to a lamps in
the urine handling protocol. This time around, he didn't fight it.

(18:49):
It takes and takes his suspension and his name came
up along with twenty others in documents from Miami's biogenesis laboratories.
So when you look at the legacy skip of Ryan
brumpt run this suspension did not help his legacy at all,
did it, Knowing that he was suspended for the time
that he had.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, no, Unfortunately, you know, anything like that is
going to hurt players legacy, right, I mean now it's
always in doubt any of the numbers that he put
up throughout his career. You know, I I remember following
this situation a little bit, and it's just unfortunate, right,

(19:31):
I know, guys are trying to compete and be the
best they can possibly be. But when you do, you know,
things kind of above and beyond of what you're supposed
to do out on the field, and you know, it's
kind of it's considered cheating, and you know, it's it
makes the game a little unfair. And uh, you know,
unfortunately for him, his his reputation and his legacy is

(19:54):
going to be forever tainted because of that suspension, and
and uh, you know, it's it's just it's something where
he probably got caught up and wanted to be the
best player in the world and try to keep up
with the Joneses a little bit, and you know, it
just uh, it just cost him, you know, his legacy.
It's very unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Candy.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
The one thing I will say is of all markets
for him to have been in when this happened, Milwaukee
was the was the right market because Milwaukee embraced him
even after the you know, all the troubles that he had.
I don't know that a lot of other markets wouldn't

(20:39):
have kicked him out and pushed him out. But uh,
you know, we even inducted him into the Wall of
Fame and everything like that. In fact, last year, Scott,
when we were there, that was the last time I
got to see he was there, and Bob Buker was
there with him because they were both really good friends.

(21:01):
You know, did he get into trouble, yes, did he
do something he shouldn't have, Yes, But I give him
credit for, you know, coming forward eventually and talking about
it and you know and still going on and playing
on with his career. So you know, a lot of

(21:23):
other like I said, a lot of other teams might
have dropped him, but the Brewers actually stood behind him.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Cancy.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I mean I remember when it all went down too,
because that was the same year where a Rod bear
the brunt of that. But you know, with Broun though,
I mean Milwaukee, he still very much liked in Milwaukee.
He went on to play it for a few more
years there prior to I think about twenty twenty or so.
I was actually at the game where he where he

(21:52):
retired when the day the Brewers actually clinched the n
Our Central Division against the Iron Playoff against the New
York Mets. But they, you know, Milwaukee still embraced him.
It's it's good that I think, you know, like to
Candy's point, he was kind of in the right market
to because you know, in places like Milwaukee, it might
be a story for like a day or two, but

(22:13):
then it kind of just has a way of just
going away and evaporate. If you're in a place like
New York, that that things that Adam Bomb and that
and that cloud's not going anywhere for for for the
next while. But you know, I'm happy, you know, I'm
happy Ryan Bron eventually came forward. Doesn't hurt his legacy, Yeah,
I think it does though, But still he's Milwaukee embraced him.
They put him on the wall, they put him on

(22:33):
the into the into on the Wall of Fame, and
there's still very much, at least to my knowledge, is
still very much welcome around them, around the organization, so
you know, you know it's just uh yeah, does it
hurt him, Yeah, but it's what but it's not like
it's not catastrophic to the levels of say Alex Rodriguez.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
On August twenty second, twenty thirteen, is when he released
a statement and he apologized for using pets and he
claimed he used him I guess during the latter part
of the twenty eleven season. But yeah, like like Candy
and you guys have said, I mean, this was an
amazing He was a really good ballplayer, you know, Silver
Slagger Award, All Star Games, you know, over you know,

(23:21):
well over two thousand heads. He just you know, he
was a really he got caught up in the wrong thing.
And uh, you know, I'm glad to hear that. Like you,
like you said, Candy and Scott, you saw that he's
still being honored at Milwaukee when you guys were there.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
That's that's great.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
And uh, you know every team has these, you know,
issues with with their players once in a while.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
So he regretted it. Though he apologized he regretted it,
and all the more power to him. But yeah, he
was a damn good baseball player.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Rob Yeah, of course, good player. Listen, he took he
took his medicine, so called medicine, and he apologized, like
everyone said. But like like Candy said, I agree, he's
lucky that I don't. I don't know if he's lucky,
but good, good thing had happened in Milwaukee, because we
know what would have happened if it happened in New

(24:16):
York with the press, with the fans when he went,
you know, look at Canoe. Really he you know, the
New York fans turned on him after the second suspension,
so you know, New York, New York. He's lucky it
didn't happen in New York. Candy, he's lucky it happened

(24:36):
in Milwaukee, and they put him on the Wall of
Fame because that wouldn't happened in New York.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, with all due respect Robinson, to know, I can't
believe he left New York in the first place to
go to Seattle, let alone the fact that he had
all those issues later on for sure. But yeah, always
need to go to that that event that we went
to Candy Willie. Unfortunately we applied for three games with
circumstances out of our control. Only allows us to get
to the one. But the one we did get to

(25:03):
go to is Ryan Brown thing as well, So that
worked out well for us. So we're gonna go to
three games. That was probably the best one to go
with the group. But Robinson Canoia I go to sentiment
of Philadelphia's not gonna get greeted real well there either,
So no, So we're going to go to another on
this date, but a different one too. We're going a
little bit further back. Oh my god, who ever On

(25:26):
July twenty first, nineteen twenty six, get this and this
actually goes ahead that talks about what Chris and said,
what career record in baseball has a chance to be broken?
In Fanny, Well, Chris, this one won't and you'll know why.
On July twenty first, nineteen twenty six, Sis, make your
collections seven hundred double? How do you like that one? Skip?
The seven one hundred doubles? How did that one grab

(25:51):
your Skipris?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, that's that's uh, that's quite the accomplishment, right, seven
hundred doubles. That's that's insane. You know that that's that
kind of speaks to to me on you know, I
think I was really talking about this earlier when I

(26:12):
was talking about Pete Rose, like, these guys played a
different brand of baseball than we're seeing today, and in
doubles and stuff like that are exciting. I want to
see guys running the bases and you know, not either
striking out or hitting a homer. So seven hundred doubles,
I mean, what a great, great accomplishment that That is

(26:35):
something that yeah, I don't think that's ever going to
happen again, right, I mean, you know they're gonna hit
seven hundred homers or have seven hundred strikeouts in two
seasons before they hit seven hundred doubles.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
That's means it's such an intrixing that So all right,
So I'll leave it open everybody after they answer this question, Candy,
what are you going to talk about seven hundred doubles
from mister speaker?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
You know, well, his total doubles after that for his
career were seven hundred and ninety two. He's first on
the list. Second on the list is the other guy
we were talking about, Mickey u Luda doum Pete Rose
seven hundred and forty six. Third on the list is
Stan Mucil Mucial seven hundred and twenty five. Fourth on

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the list is Ty Cobb with seven to twenty four,
and then fifth list is Albert Pooles with six hundred
and eighty four. So there's one hundred difference between fifth
and first place. You'll never see that many again, I mean,
like Mickey said, they don't. They're either hitting. They're either

(27:45):
striking out or they're hitting home runs.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
I don't know if the size of the ballpark has
changed from way back when or till now, because that
would make a difference too, because if you know, but
I can't imagine seven hundred and ninety two doubles. But
that's the kind of baseball I miss. I mean, don't
get me wrong. I like home runs, but I'd like

(28:09):
to see them running the bases. I'd like to see
them stealing. I like to see them bunting and getting
moving people on and not just because we placed a
runner around second base and extra innings. I you know,
but yeah, I like to see that. I like to
see offensive baseball and not just home runs. So I

(28:30):
would have loved to have seen that. Obviously, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Rule in my opinion that goes running rules absurd. That's
all I say about it Now. I canna handle a
lot of the rule changes, but not that one. All
I can't see.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I mean, that was you know, semilar doubles is actually
pretty impressive though. That was back you know, back in
the day though, they were much more well routed hitters,
and also the ballparks back then were a lot smaller.
You also play in the dead ball era, so you
weren't seeing too many home runs. I think the guide,
I think the leader back then might have my maybe
had ten home runs that year, which to which nowadays

(29:03):
that's unheard of where we where everyone seems to hunt
the long ball more than anybody else. But you know,
you know, tris Speaker again, he's one like Todd Cobb,
well routed hitter. The guy could hit hit him left
and right, and you know, he just he was he
was just terrific. There's a reason he's in the Hall
of Fame. And you know that's definitely one of them.
But yeah, I mean, I mean, now nowadays, you know

(29:24):
it's all about you know, feast or famine at the plate.
And you know, as far as the runner on second rule,
we can we can thank our our dumb commission, our
dumb current commissioner for that, George.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
Yeah, what can you say, Tris Speaker, unbelievable player, he
really was three forty five lifetime batting average hits three
thousand and fourteen. We already talked about the doubles seven
ninety two. No, you're not going to see anybody like
that anymore. I mean, you know, uh, it's it's interesting
to see that.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (29:57):
You know, we still list those obviously the stats leaders,
you know, and they do mean something to us baseball fiscionados.
You know, who's leading in triples and doubles and home
runs always. But yeah, for a guy like that to
have so many and you mentioned too, Candy about Pete
Rose being in second place, and that's that, and it's

(30:18):
just incredible. And I've always liked it too, you know.
And all Detroit had parks that were friendly to hitters.
Some ballparks are friendly to hitters, as we know, some
of them are not. And for him, but it was
a different error, I agree. I agree, can't see I mean,
it was, but it's still an outstanding statistic that will
never be broken.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
Like you said, Scott, Rob.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
Yeah, I agree with everybody, it's never gonna it's never
gonna be broken. Imagine being able to go back in
time just to go back to see one of those games,
you know, just travel back in time just to see
what it's like. That would be great. I let you know,
I like the old school based I like when the

(31:01):
National League didn't have a designated hitter. I liked when
the managers were able to make moves like it was
a chess game. But you got to get the younger
kids to enjoy the game, and their attention span is
not like ours was, so you have to have a
lot of home runs, and you know, the game's changed
so much. But that ghost Runner drives me crazy because

(31:24):
I feel like I'm watching Little League when it goes
into extra innings. I hate it.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Scott, I'd like to add a little bit to that,
you know, going to Candy's list of those guys that
are leading the major leagues all time in doubles. To me,
what stands out of the guys that I got to
see play Aubert Poohols, you know, he rose guys like that.
They had that opposite field approach, right, They weren't up

(31:54):
there just trying to deadpool. And I guarantee you Speaker
and those other guys on that list, if you look
back at their swing, they're trying to stay inside the baseball,
take the ball the other way, and then if it's in,
they'll turn and hit a homer. Albert Pooholz was the
best at this right. He covered the plate away and
he reacted in, and that leads to extra base hits,

(32:17):
a more exciting game. And Albert still got still got
his homers. I mean, look at the numbers he put up.
He hit the doubles and the homers because he took
a great approach. You can't tell me today that there's
not one team in the big leagues that would take
one of these power hitters that are out there trying
to hit homers consistently over Albert poolholes. There's a way

(32:41):
to go up there and cover the plate so pitchers
can't just sit there and wear you out with high
fastballs and breaking balls in the dirt. And it's going
the other way and reacting in. And I guarantee you
all these guys on that list probably took that approach.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Great input, Kip, thanks a lot for incorporating. Here's what
I'm gonna say about it. Number one, Once upon a time,
co America Park was pictures friendly, and that's what scared
the daylights out of Wan gun Dalas. And he wouldn't
sign a lucrative attension that Mike Gillis through his direction.
One wanted no part of Comerica Park. That's right, George.
At least you saved that one for me, Thank you, pal.
I appreciate that. But co America's Park intimidated one gun Dalaus.

(33:23):
He couldn't wait to get back in a home ers
park because he didn't want to play there because any
home runs he was gonna it. I mean, you look
at the fact they moved the fences, and sure, that's
how you attract better players. But one gun Zalous was
intimidated by co America Park. That's what happened, and that's
why he left Detroit without taking the bag. That's will

(33:44):
he ever a minute, we'll ever get a chance to
ask him about it. I don't care, it doesn't matter.
I work with him again from the nineteen eighty seven
Gastonia Rangers. And all this guy did was flip a
laundry basket up side down when we were staking a
hotel and he was a little upset, to say the leaves.
So what that's what that said. Let's go to Rob's question.
We'll make it really quickly. Have a lot more to

(34:05):
get to here on underneath, such as Baseball Talk Coorse
career record in baseball has a chance to be broken
if any we're gonna start with you skip, give me one.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Career record has a chance to be broken, if any.
I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's there's quite
a bit. Let's see. Oh, I can't even Let's see,
Huh I can't. I can't even think. I mean, I
can think of several that won't be broken. Uh, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Let's if you don't have one, don't worry about it,
because yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't think I have one. That's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
There's there's that could be PARI with the way today's
game is mecked. Don't catch yourself. That's a good question
by Chris. That's why I segued it into the trust
speaker one because I wanted to make sure that that
was a good segue. Now, don't be right. That's a
popular question, and many of us don't think there will
be any because of the game has change. Because I

(35:00):
know one thing You're not gonna see any consecutive games
for sure, the way they sit people, Katie, take your
shot at this one.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I mean one of them that.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
That one's hard the only one, I one of the
ones I can think of, because they're hitting so many
long balls that maybe an RBI record could be broken
if they you know, if they have a long career
and they hit a lot of long balls because you
have runners on the base, you get you know, four
for every if it's a Grand Slam. So I mean

(35:34):
that would be one that I maybe, but it's really hard.
The other one I can think of is like maybe
strikeouts because either they home home runner strike out a lot,
So maybe a career you know in batting and strikeouts.
Not the record you really want, but want to.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know, we're gonna do ask Chris this question on
Wednesday night, though, I'm gonna, hey, Rob, let him know
that he's gonna put this in a chat room. He's
gonna have to own this one enough.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Yeah, he's watching right now.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
So right so, Chris, you know, you better be prepared
to incorporate this in our list of things to talk
about on Wednesday night because you're going to answer this
question that us are having an easy time, all right,
can't see take your shot at this, I.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Think only strikeouts. It's because of you know again, these
guys are either a feast a lot of a lot
of these guys like our feast or famine. Some sometime
or other times they're just Joey Gallo. But they're But
it's not like I just can't see them, right, I
just can't see a lot of them being broken. Guys
are guys are getting days off a little more often

(36:38):
than they used to, and so it's just it's just
harder now. And so you know, maybe maybe home runs,
but you know again, someone's someone's gonna have to be
one of those players that just comes along and then
they start raking. That's that's just what's gonna have to happen.
And right now, I just I just don't I just
don't see it right now, just given the way the

(36:59):
game is played in these days.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
George, Yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's awful difficult
to pick any kind of even offensive stat that is
going to be broken with these record holders, record holders,
many of them as we just talked about, so old.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Uh so I don't see anything there. I mean strikeouts.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Yeah, there's way too many strikeouts by the batters today,
so obviously that's one that could have could have could
be eclipped. But you know, I I don't see anything.
And the pitching is the same way. I mean, you know,
we don't have guys that pitch on like we talked about.
They don't pitch complete games, even the Saves leaders who
were changing relief pitchers constantly, so you're not going to
have any kind of continuity or attempt to break the

(37:39):
record even in the all time saves.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
I was thinking about that.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
So I don't know.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
The only I think it was like you guys said,
you know, players striking out. That's not a good stat though.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
No, no, I.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Mean listen, christ are putting it in the chat Ramald records.
Hank Karn has twenty ninety seven RBI did that, Nolan
Ryan has five and fourteen. Well you're really helping the
cause because you're not really contributing. But that's okay. You
get your shot Wednesday night.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
That was that was definitely not gonna happen because Nolan
Ryan generally stayed out there. Yeah. Yeah, so you have problems,
so you have plenty of time to rack up.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
K's that way, Robert, he's your cools. You think you
can make sense out of this topic that should have
won on the show tonight, not him.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
No, but I'm sure now we're going to talk about
that next week. I maybe maybe the home run record,
but I don't know, but a lot it's not Listen,
nothing's gonna happen for a long time anyway, So who
knows what we're gonna see because you know that the
depending work stoppage, Because I think there's gonna be a

(38:47):
work stoppage. It may be long and that's gonna affect
everything as well as the COVID year affected everything. So
I really don't know what's gonna happen. But if anything,
maybe home run record and you know, a bad record strikeouts.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I'll tell you one thing that me that we I
can't believe we saw last year was the amount of
losses of the Chicago White Sox. Compiled futility records might
be something people have to look at down the road,
and that may be a team thing, but I don't know, Chris.
If I were you, I would go out there and
take a few deep breaths, because you're gonna be under
the mice silk Wednesday night. So if you threw this

(39:28):
out there, you're gonna own it on Wednesday night. A
couple more little tops as we get to I know
we're gonna state break shortly, but Rob, this one's gonna
be aimed at you. Code Sengo have been out to
the Triple A with a three point oh two and
ron average for the New York Maps. Why did this happen?

Speaker 6 (39:46):
Because they have to figure out what's going on with him,
you know, they they need him now, and between him
and Manaia, you know, the starting pitching has been horrible.
Look to go to the minor leagues. End Listen, these
kids look good, McLean, looks good. He even looked good
tonight the Mets, you know, with the Mets trailing in

(40:08):
the ninth inning right now. But they have to find
out what's going on with him. You know, Japanese. First
of all, Japanese pitchers have different you know, they they're
different training. They they don't pitch as often as as
pitchers here. You know, he's he's been injured three times already.

Speaker 7 (40:27):
Right, they have to.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
Figure out what's going on with him. They need him
to pitch the way he was pitching when he first
started last year in the playoffs. So they have they
sent them down to figure out what's going on and
fix them, but they have to do it fast.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Skip, you're the only ones gonna have a piece of Actually,
we want more to get to the idea.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, I mean there there could There could be, you know,
a myriad of things that are going on with a
pitcher at any given time, Right, I think you know
they're when you're talking about a foreign born player coming
over to the United States. You know, I played over
in Korea, I played in Taiwan. Some people get homesick, right,
and then it just it just wears on you. You're

(41:11):
missing home sometimes, and this is more of a mental
break than anything. Right. We used to we used to
just phantom dl guys and give them a mental breather.
And you can't do that anymore. Right. They put in
new rules that that you're not allowed to take that
approach anymore. So you have to option guys. And he's

(41:32):
not the first you know, big leaguer in accomplished big
leaguers that that get sent down to Triple A to
work on things. But This sounds like more of a
mental breather. You know, the kid is in a different
country playing. I don't care how much money you make.
I don't care how sweet the big leagues is. You're

(41:53):
away from home. It's tough, right, It's tough on these
guys that come over here and play. So this is
just a little mental breather. Hopefully they can get him
four or five starts, maybe two or three starts, get
his head right, have him relax, have some success, and
get a little bit of that confidence back where that
mental side, that mental edge that he needs to go

(42:16):
out there and succeed in the big leagues is back.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Okay, we're gonna move on to another topic, and everybody
has to comment on anybody if they're area specific. Let's
all right, Eric, you can comment on this if you want.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I mean, I mean, he hasn't been good in the
second half, that's for sure. During the first half, the
guy was during the first half, the guy with nails.
You know, he was the ace of the Mets. I
think you know part of it too. It could be
too that, you know, they just need they need a
fresh arm in there. The Brewers did it with Chad
Patrick Chad Patrick was having a find year from Milwaukee,
but Milwaukee sent him down for the sake of it
was a surplus of arms, and he unfortunately was the

(42:49):
odd man. Now, I think more or less with Code,
I Sega is you know they got some young arms
performing well right now with Noel McLay and I think
Jodah Tong who are performing well right now. So you know,
let Code is saying, you'll get get his edge back
because you know there is a track record for success
with that guy. He's been an All Star before and
he's a solid, solid pitcher. I think more or less

(43:10):
it's just about him just kind of kind of just
getting getting himself together and coming back for the Brewish,
coming back for the Mets stretch run here where they're
trying to kind of lock up lock up that final
wildcard spot or and prevent them from doing their annual metting.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Oh mental breather is the right way you're saying, that's
what skid point. All right, We're going to go back
to Milwaukee for this one. Everybody can chime in on
this one. Freddy Parolta and not giving up a run
at twenty nine page, that's incredible. You talk about and
we're going to talk about some of these moves that
the Brewers made in the bullpen that the trade dead line.
But this is one move that has definitely saved Pat

(43:47):
Murphy and the Brewers. So Skip, we talked a little
bit about the Brewers on Saturday. Freddy Parolta not giving
up a run at twenty nine eeties. That's pretty impressive. Skip, Yeah,
it is.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know, to me, it's kind of like, is this
the chicken or the egg? You know, when a team
is playing really, really well, does that therefore help these
players that go on some of these amazing streaks or
is it these streaks that help the team? You know,
really you know, make these runs that they make where

(44:21):
they're doing what we talked about the other night, where
they're you know, twenty five of games above five hundred
and a short stretch, so you know, I think they're
feeding off of one another. The team's playing great. Freddie's
out there relaxed, just pitching, not a care in the world.
You know, when your team is doing so well, like
the Brewers have been, it's not like you go out

(44:44):
there like I can't blow this game tonight, right, there's
a little less pressure on you than there would be
otherwise if you're in a race or three games back.
You know, when a Mets pitcher goes out there and
tries to pitch in a game, it's everything in the
world right now, because if you lose, you might be
costing yourself the playoffs or costing your team the playoffs.

(45:07):
So you know, he's he's relaxed out there, just pitching.
And that's what happens when you when you when you
go on these good runs. I remember when we won
twenty two games in a row with the Indians, now
the Guardians, Unfortunately, you know, everybody was going out there
and putting these crazy, amazing numbers up, and they were
just relaxed pitching. We even stopped having our advanced meetings

(45:32):
and going over the opposing hitters because I didn't want
to mess anybody up. I didn't want to be the
guy that was going to mess people up, you know,
telling them the wrong thing. So I just let him
go out there. Hey, guys, go out there, do what
you've been doing, stick to your strengths. And that sounds
like what Peralta has been doing.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Handy.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
You almost have to put him in at least discussion
of the cy young. I mean, he's pitched one hundred
and fifty eight point two in a he's sixteen and
five two point five e. He has struck out one
hundred and seventy six batters and only walked sixty one,

(46:12):
you know, I mean, he's having a heck of a
career career this year. This year. But the Brewers are
having fun. And you know, when and I know I've
said this before, when the team is having fun, more
and more of them have success because they're more relaxed.

(46:33):
And yes, I know I'm from Milwaukee, but I and
I see a lot more of the pictures, a lot
more of the videos, a lot more of the team,
you know, interacting with each other, and he just looks
like he's having fun, and that makes all the difference, because,
let's face it, if you're having fun at your job,
it's not a job, you know, and you're enjoying yourself,

(46:58):
and it's really cool to see. That's I'm just gonna
I'm gonna leave it at that, and I I hope,
I hope he says healthy for the rest of the year,
wherever that ends, the Brewers. I hope he can make it.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
All the way to the end, all right, can't see well, actually,
I've you know, since living in Milwaukee, I've seen quite
a bit of Freddy Peralta, and and you know, I
can't wake up. I actually can't wake up in the
morning without hearing, without hearing about the streak day in
and day out. Actually, I do have a story about
Freddy Peralta. I was at I was at a brewers
event while a couple of years ago. It was it

(47:36):
was at a bar called Dugout forty nine near the ballpark,
and he actually there. They were having a they were
having a brewers event there. He actually paid for everybody's dinner,
which was great. And you know, but you know, it's
it's been great to see I was at one of
the games seeing him, just seeing him, just seeing him
out in the mound, just shove. I mean, he and
I Actually I've written quite a bit, quite a bit

(47:59):
about a Peralta, not really about the streak, but how
he's not getting enough love. I mean, this guy is
having this guy is having like a having a mid
twos e er, which is very hard to do. And
you know, and no one's talking about it. It's all
been about Paul Schemes or Chrisopher Sanchez or when Zach
Wheeler was healthy, it was about him. But we're not

(48:20):
talking enough about Freddy Parolta. He is one of the
best pitchers in the National League. He at least should
be in that conversation. But I don't think he gets
the run nationally like he should. I think part of it, too,
is the Brewers have been just unreal this year, probably
the best, probably the best Brewers team I've seen since
living here. And you know, they're seven and a half

(48:42):
up on the Cubs. It's like a whole that's a
whole week of the season, especially with only with only
what eighteen or so games left, So that's gonna be
next that's gonna be next to impossible that to make
up unless you put unless you pull a sixty nine Mets.
But I digress. But it's you know, it's it's great
to see again. I don't think Peralta gets enough enough

(49:05):
love nationally, and he's is one of the best pitchers
in the National League. And the fact that you know,
he's doing it for the Brewers and he's out there
having fun, and the Brewers obviously are having a ton
of fun this year. Especially with with especially since they
were able to get get the entire city free Burgers.
The It's it's been great. I mean just you know,

(49:26):
I just it's just been awesome to see and you know,
for I'm happy for Freddy. I mean, no other guy
you'd want it to happen to than him. Great, great
guy all around, very entertaining. And yeah, it's he's a
He's a big reason for the Brewers' success because the
back of their rotation, aside from him, has kind of
been in a constant flux, and he's been the constant

(49:47):
at the top of that rotation, and guys like Quinn Priester,
Jose Jose Quintana, Jacob Jacob Mazerowski, when Chad Patrick was there,
they all benefited from having him up top because Freddy
was the ace and everyone else kind of just settled
into their roles.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
George, Well, when you look at some of the stats
those games, okay, you know, the Brewers actually lost two
of those games. His last game against Philadelphia, the Brewers
lost two to nothing. He went five innings, two hits,
no runs, you know, and then as you know, against
Toronto he won. Against San Francisco he lost, and you know,

(50:24):
and then they beat the Cubs and they beat Pittsburgh.
Those are the games we're talking about when our friend
Freddie was was pitching. Now, the thing is is that,
you know, they're only still letting him go five or
six innings and all these appearances. That's not his fault.
That's just the way baseball is now. So I don't
I don't fault him on any of that. You know,

(50:46):
in the old days, yeah, you would have seen these
guys have complete game wins or shutouts.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
But the fact of the matter is that he's got
a hell of a street growing going.

Speaker 8 (50:54):
And you know, all of these five games that were
involved you know, one run, I mean, one hit, two three,
it's that's it.

Speaker 7 (51:01):
So he's pitched lights out, he really has. He's at
a very good year so far, like you guys said, out.

Speaker 8 (51:08):
Standing here and certainly deserves Cy Young consideration, even though
that other fella in Pittsburgh obviously has a lead on
getting that award. But the fact matter is is that, yeah,
the Brewers are playing great ball, eighty nine wins already,
but Parolta's gonna help a job.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
I agree, I will say, I will say, George, though
I was I was at one of those games against
the Giants, and I'm telling you he gave that team
a chance to win. Yes, the Brewers may have lost,
but it wasn't because of parolto is because his bullpen
sold on him.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
Okay, yeah, thank you, Hey, Rob, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Yeah, he's in that zone right now, right where you know,
the batters are up and they're seeing peas coming at him.
You know, that's the zone that he's in. It's like
when it batters in in one of those streaks and
they see a volleyball coming at him and they just
hit that thing. Oh, that's how he's pitching. He's pitching
lights out right now, which is great to see. And

(52:05):
it's listen, it's great for the for the Brewers, and
he should be in talks for the Cy Young Award. Yes,
but you know, like the other guys said, like George said, skiing,
you got it. You got that guy's skiings in Pittsburgh.
You gotta worry about Yeah, don't.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Forget about Yeah, all I can say the guy's on
a roll. Pat Murphy's got a good bullpen weapon. And
we're going to talk about the Brewers bullpen a little
bit later in the show. A couple of things. I
want to get to realclick, real quickly before he hit
the sixty minute mark. I have to tell you, though,
it is news when this happens. The Colorado Rockies actually

(52:41):
beat the Saint Louis Carlinos six or nothing on in
July and recorded their first shutout, winning two hundred and
twenty two hundred and twenty games, an MLB record in
the modern era. Skip when the Colorado Rockies get a shutout,
all my goodness.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, that's that's uh some some streak right there. I mean,
two hundred and twenty games without a shutout. That's that's insane,
you know. I remember I'd get mad if we didn't
shut a team out once a week when I was
the pitching coach for the Indians back of the day.
So I mean that that's just a long time. I

(53:22):
can't fathom that streak. You know, that might be a
streak that might never get broken again. I mean that
that's the longest streak that's gotta that's gonna stay like
that for for a long time, you know, especially with
the you know the way that you know these guys

(53:42):
are swinging the bats and swinging for the fences. You
know these solo homer is gonna get you at least
one run. But I mean, that's that's that's pretty amazing.
I can't believe that that that lasted that long.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
That's why we brought on the show Skip. I told you,
I think I'm gonna I think we need to give.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
That pitching coach a raise over there.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, well, Jim Wheland out of Colorado. Stuff like this, right,
a nervous breakdown after one a year or so, then
you always come up.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
With, Yeah, Colorado is bad for baseball. It really is.
Going over there. It's a nightmare for any team that
has to go in there. If you're a visiting team,
it's like you you at the beginning of the season,
you're checking out, when do we go to Colorado? You
know all the pictures like panicking. You're going into Colorado.
Their earra is going to go up a point, you know,
like almost a run because they're gonna give up seven runs.

(54:33):
It's it's insane. That ballpark needs to be you know,
six hundred feet or be blown up.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
All right, Eric, what's your take on this? I know
you have to step out for a few seconds, so
go ahead, give me your take. On this and we'll
continue to roll around the horn.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
I mean that sounds like something you really have to try,
You actually really have to try. It's oh man. I mean,
Colorado is not exactly, uh not exactly a picture's paradise.
But the only guy who was really good at it
for for a little while there was a Bottlejmenez for
about four years where he's somehow mastered pitching over there,
which I didn't even think was possible. But you know, good,

(55:09):
good for them. I mean, the Cardinals have been kind of,
you know, mediocre at best this year. They've been kind
of in and out of in and out of in
and out of relevance in terms of the postseason. But
you know, nice to see Colorado at least can add
a little highlight to what has already been kind of
a dreadful year for them. So at least it's something
to kind of hang their hat on there. But I'm
telling you it's another reason too. Why why even though

(55:32):
MLB is talking about Utah, I mean, I think Utah
is an even worse idea because I think it would
actually be Corsfield Course Field on steroids, because the elevation
is worse.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
There here do what you gotta do, George continue on.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
Yeah, yeah, there's three to nothing is what we're talking about, right.
That shut out, Oh gosh, that doesn't happen very often.
We know that obviously unbelievably long streak. And uh even
in that game the guy who's four and fourteen Freeland, Uh,
Kyle Freeland got to win on that, on that on

(56:10):
that game that they beat San Diego three to nothing.
I'll tell you what though, Uh yeah, that that franchise
is really really in the dumper, and it's been for
so many years. It's a shame because they've got really
good fans. There are really good fan base, and uh,
Colorado's got a lot of.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
Work to turn this thing around.

Speaker 8 (56:29):
But boy, oh boy, I hope they do soon because
they've they've been, like I said, so down for so
many years. Uh, as indicated by this crazy stat you know,
as far as having a shutout, rob.

Speaker 6 (56:42):
Yeah, you know what, that is a crazy stat. I mean,
of course you're gonna you're gonna blame it on You're
gonna blame some of it on Colorado. But remember they
play the other half of their games other places, so
you know, couldn't they squeeze out a shutout somewhere I
could have. Could you imagine if the team you were,

(57:03):
if the Cleveland Indians went that many games without a shutout?
I mean, how crazy would that make you?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
It sounds like they need to be investigating them for
gambling to me, you know, that's such a crazy stad
You know, you see that guy throwing those first pitches
in the dirt on purpose. Maybe they might need to
check in the Colorado Rockies here. Somebody's getting rich over there.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Yeah, it's just that's one crazy That is a crazy
stat But you know what pitcher wants to wants to
pitch in Colorado? Ask Mike Hampton. You know, he leaves
New York after a great situation to pitch there, and
he said, you know, maybe that wasn't the smartest move
I ever made.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
So, you know, me a prolific home run hitter, he
did a right, A few pictures I can hit?

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Yeah, he yes, definitely, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
He proved that you can play a long ball out
were real? All right, Candy? And then you know what, Skip,
I'll tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna give
you loan shot at this one topic because well we'll
talk about it. Around Wednesday night. Fair enough, but Candy
give me your thoughts and then skip will comment on
Joshua Door's comment about Philly Cairon. You'll get the opportunity

(58:18):
to talk about We'll save the rest of Wednesday night.
Go ahead, Candy.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Heller Rado ended their span a two hundred and twenty
consecutive games with that will shutout. Their last shutout was
May fifteenth of twenty twenty four. It was an eight
oh win at San Diego. It is the third longest
streak all time, behind only the eighteen ninety three the

(58:46):
ninety six Washington Senators, which had three hundred and eighty three,
and then the eighteen ninety seven to ninety nine Saint
Louis Brown's Slash Perfectos, which had two and ninety eight.
So those are records that like, those are old, those

(59:07):
are long time records. What does that say about their
pitching staff that they haven't pitched shutouts? Does it mean
that they pull them too early? Doesn't mean their relievers
aren't as good? Does it mean you know the batters
were just that much better? That's just crazy, Joshua Door, Yes,

(59:29):
the chat is working. Don't worry. Don't worry. We're not
forgetting you, mister Joshua, or it's just that you came
in later. We've been putting up the other ones earlier
in the show.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
A right, but yeah, you so, Skip, You're the only
one that's going to comment on this one. I think
it's probably appropriate that it comes from you. Anyways, obviously
trending topic over the weekend. Everything else will be mentioned
on Wednesday night. I repeat, I have a lot of
show to get to. What are your thoughts about the
Philly Karen situation that transfer hired over the weekend. I
think it was a bunch of nonsense, But Skip, you

(01:00:03):
manage to see a lot of this stuff or maybe
you have it. You have a floor on this and
then we'll continue on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the game needs to be
about the kids. Anytime a kid has a chance to
get a ball, any adult needs to just step away
and give and if you leave, if you catch a
foul ball as an adult and you leave the game
with a foul ball and it's not in a kid's hand,
then you should be ashamed of yourself. And in my opinion,

(01:00:35):
right this game is for the fans and especially the kids.
If you're getting a souvenir. The kids need to be
the ones leaving with a souvenir in my opinion. So
you know, I hate it for everybody involved that it
gets blown up in the press the way it is.
But let's get let's let the kids get the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah, no doubt about that. Okay, all right, let's continue on.
We started with the Colorado team. Now we're gonna have
a little bit more fun with it. The Yankings actually,
about a month ago, option newly acquired reliever Jake Bird
to triple A and three your pearances since trading for
Forum on Coloradio allows six order runs to any Fish
on a walkof for you run home run against Josh

(01:01:19):
jungk This just goes to show you the tolerance that
the Yanks won't take for the guy who's underperforming, where
Colorado can get away with it. Skip, were your talks
about the lack of patients that they had for Jake Bird?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Yeah, you know, I think that that happens a lot.
Right If you're not one of the main guys and
you get up there, you got to perform right away
or we're gonna go get another arm. It's just how
it goes. You know, we don't have time, you know,
especially with the way the season is going there in
New York, they don't have time to be you know,
giving guys an audition. You gotta step up, you gotta pitch,

(01:01:54):
and you gotta do it, do it well, and if not,
we're gonna go find somebody else and it'll be a
that maybe that spot will be a rotating door for
a while until you find the right guy. That's just
that's the business part of this game, right if you're
if you're the Milwaukee Brewers and you're you're seven and
a half games up, then he gets he gets more innings.

(01:02:15):
That's just how it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
It's more about the situation the team's in than it
is about the player.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Yeah, the thing that people have to understand is Colorado
and the New York Yankees are much different. If you
don't believe me, ask DJ Lemayhew how things are. Josha Gore,
let me give you some really good advice. Okay. The
Philly Karen team was brought up on a professor of
people and Eric and I talked about he really doesn't
care about the topics. That's why we stayed a wave
from it. So, Joshua, you know I would advise you

(01:02:43):
to watch the Sports Exchange a Wednesday night, okay for
more input from everybody else. And we talked about it earlier.
I'm now said Joshua Door. I just want to make
sure you understand that since you don't know any other
topic except Philly, Karen and baseball, that's all that's relevant
to you. And a lot of these people on this
they may not care about the National Hockey League. Some

(01:03:05):
well some so gosh a door taper. We gave it
to skip an opportunity to talk about it, and I
said my piece earlier, and we will leave it at that. Candy,
Jake Bird no relation now Larry Bird the quick cook there.
But again jj L Mayhew has played for both market.
This is what he's done. Then, DJL Mayhew will high

(01:03:26):
an opportunity to skip and robbing everybody else. I interviewed
him when he was just out and what the heck
of a player he really really is. And those two
guys played in both markets. Candy take it from there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Please, who are we talking about again?

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Just give me the name?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Talk about Jake Bird, Candy, you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Know what, go to Eric first for me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Please go ahead, Eric, I mean he got shelled in
like two out of his three outings, and the Yankees
were kind of clean to a to a onto a
playoff spot. That can't happen. I mean, sure you can
get away with it in Colorado, where where if you
get sheld and no one's gonna batany given how how
bad that team is anyway. But nah, this is New York.
You gotta be It's a what have you done for

(01:04:13):
me lately? Sort of town, And if you're not getting
it done, you're going to be the main character on
w f A n at seven o'clock in the morning
on someone's drive to work, which I'm sure I'm sure
a skip all knows all too well. Yes, but it's
you know, you get you gotta produce in New York.

(01:04:35):
You know, yes, it's a yes. You you know you came.
You're coming from Colorado, where things aren't good. I get it.
And you know, pitching at that altitude is not easy
because they don't talk about what it does to your
body when you're actually out there. They talk about how
essentially the ballpark is essentially six six flags for hitters.
But you know, but nah, you got to produce the

(01:04:56):
expectations are World Series or bust, for better or worse,
saying that I necessarily agree with that with it having
to be that way, but nah, you got to go
in there and produce. If your team is cleaning to
a playoff spine, you're costing them games. You know you're
gonna be down in the bus leagues. And that's just
the way that is. And unfortunately for Jake Burnis, by
a hot start in Colorado, he's right now having to

(01:05:17):
be in the bus leagues because he wasn't producing in
New York. This is New York, this is reality. Is
championship or bust, and you just gotta deal with it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
We're comment about, Philly Kiaren after you're done here. That
way we could get Joshua Dora off this topic because
we have a lot of other things we need to
get to real quickly after you're done with finishing here
and that and Joshua door that will be at tonight
about this topic.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
But yeah, otherwise, if you're not producing in New York,
you're gonna be the main character and someone's driving to
work on WFAN at seven o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Okay, go ahead, Philly, Karen Makett sixty seconds just to
pass it by this guy. It's the equivalent of giving
a dog a bone.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Yeah, well, I was really reluctant to talk about this, Josh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I know that's but he obviously I have a good
ear doctor that he could go to because you're not
listening to me, So go ahead and say what you want.
Make it sixty seconds or less.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Yep, Josh, it was a shame that had happened. It's
you don't root for it to happen. But you know,
hats off to the kid and his father for showing
enough classes they did because he ends up getting running
away with a nice goodie bag. There. Drop the subject,
Josh or otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, the chat room bro, thank you, Eric appreciate it. Okay,
but that said, George, you know the drill. There you go, Joshua,
door bark park. Okay, I don't have a bone, but
when I see it, you'll be more happy to give
it to you. And that we do use milk bones
by the way, all right, go ahead, George.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
Well as far as beard goes, yeah, they're in the
middle of a pen chase, like you said, eh and
Eric and I agree. I mean, you're only going to
get you know, a couple of times there to try
to prove your worth.

Speaker 7 (01:06:54):
And what did he have?

Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
Three three outings? He had and the Yankees enough of that.
But that's that's not here nor there. I mean, he
could still be called up obviously if he does well.
But the thing is is that you know, when you're
coming in a situation like that, it's very difficult because
obviously going from the worst team in the league to
one of the better teams in New York Yankees, and

(01:07:18):
it's a situation where you're vetteran. Okay, you're twenty nine
years old, you've been in this league for a while,
and you've got to produce. And whatever distractions or whatever
happened or if you didn't have enough good you know,
instructions on which pitches a throw, it's his fault still
and you know, and there you go. So three appearances
twenty seven point or on average, enough said, New York's

(01:07:41):
not going to put up with that stuff. As far
as Philly Karen, I agree.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
I agree.

Speaker 8 (01:07:45):
She was totally off base with this situation. Skip, I
agree with you. It's a game for the young people. Okay,
she didn't have to make a fool of herself trying
to steal that ball back. Enough set all right, yeah,
please enough, set Ron. I have a lot more to
get to. It was station break coming up, any moment,
go ahead, Rob.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
Yeah, okay, okay. The Yankees. The Yankees were having bull
pen problems during the trade deadline, right, so that's why
they made the deal. He had three bad outings. The
Yankees put him, you know, brought him down, and that's it.
You know, you're right, this is New York. This doesn't
shock me. It shouldn't shock anybody. I mean, small market

(01:08:25):
teams who were not in it, they could play, you know,
they could fool around a little longer with this kind
of stuff. But the Yankees are in a pennant race
and they cannot deal with it. He's down. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Move on, Mary, are one more topic and we get
to a station break. Ryan Helsley has already thrown more
earn runs with the Mets that he had with the Cardinals.
Four people the Mets for the Cardinals. Rob, This is
tough for you to deal with, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Yeah, Well, when they made that deal, we were happy, right,
you know? Is it because he went from the closer
to set up guy. He's a professional. I don't you know,
I don't think so he could. They could handle. It's
happened so many times. Is it in his head? That's
what I think it is. I think it's in his head.
You know, Skip, you would know more about this than anybody.

(01:09:15):
But I think it's in his head, and he just
he needs a few good outings in New York to
set himself straight. Hopefully it happens before the playoffs, if
the Mets even you know, if the Mets don't get
knocked out because they lost the night against the Phillies.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
So that's that's what I think. I think it's in
his head and they just have to figure that out
because this is not how he pitches.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Okay, well you know what, we'll segue over to skip.
Go ahead. What are your thoughts about what was going?

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I mean Rob's right right. The mental side of the
game is a fickle thing, right. We see it all
the time. Guys go from one team to another and
they get rejuvenated and all of a sudden they're they're
way better than they were somewhere else. Right, You kind
of get a new lease on life. It also goes
the other way sometimes, Right, you leave Saint Louis, maybe

(01:10:04):
he was comfortable there. Maybe he is, you know, his
family was able to see you more. We don't know
the backstory to all these mental things that go on
in these players' heads. Right, maybe it was maybe for
whatever reason, he had really good friends on that team
and now he doesn't really know anybody on this new team.
And that kind of stuff takes its toll on players. Right,

(01:10:26):
you want to be comfortable, you want to be mentally
free to go out there and just perform, and there's
all these outside factors that can get in these pitchers' heads.
We talked about this the other day, that in between
pitch routine to clear your mind so you can go
out there and succeed on each pitch. Well, there's routines

(01:10:48):
that get messed up when you leave, you know, from
one team to another, because those daily routines matter as well,
whether it's the apartment you're staying in, the way you
get to the field. You know, you're dealing with different
things in different places, and sometimes it's good and sometimes
it's bad. Like Rob said, he needs a couple of
good outings to get his get his mind right and

(01:11:10):
let the fans kind of, you know, dig on him
a little bit so he can go out there and
pitch the way he's capable of pitching.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
You know, there's a lot to be said about, like
Mickey was saying, the mental side of things. You know,
us me who have never played the game. I mean,
I've played softball, so don't get me wrong, but like
I go to work every day, But what do you
take to work? Do you take what's happening in your family, Like,

(01:11:42):
like there could be a health issue with someone in
the family and you're thinking about that, and you know,
and that all plays a part in your mental status
and where you're at when you're in the game. And
so if you've got to when you're playing ball, you've
got gotta be really focused and honed in. Okay, what

(01:12:03):
pitch am I throwing? Where am I throwing it? Where
you know you and the catcher are in sync. You know,
the catcher is kind of helping you. This batter is
really good at hitting this kind of a pitch, So okay,
we're gonna stay away from that kind of pitch. He's
a hitter that hits the low ball, so we want
to keep the balls up high. But the one thing
I will tell you is normally you can tell if

(01:12:25):
a pitcher is on pretty close, pretty right away. And
yet it's hard. You got to really focus and uh,
that's a tough position. That's all work.

Speaker 8 (01:12:41):
No, I'm not gonna I'm gonna pass on this one, Scott.
Everybody said the kind of the same feelings I have.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Fine, Yeah, Well, part of it is is he really
even before he came to New York, he was not
the same guy anymore, you know, he was His e
r A was higher than it had been in aside
from his early years just as a middle relief guy
where you know where those numbers can kind of get
inflated a little bit. You know, he just hasn't been this.

(01:13:09):
He wasn't the same guy in Saint Louis as their closer.
When he came over to New York, he had three
o e r A, which is which is good, but
as a closer, that's really that's really not good, especially
when they need you in the ninth inning to shut
it down. He's had trouble, he's had trouble with pitch tipping.
He's his command has been poor. He's struggling to locate
his pitches and and he's also he's also struggled with

(01:13:31):
the breaking ball, which if you're a switch which as
a closer, it's almost like mandatory to have a breaking
ball because you know, gone are the days where you
can survive off one or two pitches. But you know,
that's and I don't think it's switching to the setup role.
If anything, that kind of does your career. It kind
of does your career of favor because the press, I mean,
there's still pressure, but it's not nearly what it is

(01:13:51):
coming out there in the ninth inning where you're actually
where it's all on you to end the game. You know,
as as the setup man, Yeah there's pressure, but you
know you can there's you know, even if you give
it up, there's always hope for your offense to come back.
Sometimes it's not always the case as the closer. But
he hasn't been the same guy this year. I think
maybe part of it is pitching in New York because

(01:14:12):
even though Saint Louis I like to think in terms
of in terms of expectation, I like to think Saint
Louis is kind of more of an expectation wise. It's
more of kind of a water down New York, but
where baseball's expectations are like, you know, it's not I
wouldn't say championship or bus, but they're expecting you to
be in the postseason. So he has that going for him,
and he's been to the postseason before. I just think

(01:14:33):
I just think too that you know, it's New York
and I just don't think he really is is he he?
I don't think he can pitch in New York because
his era is getting inflated like a flat tire.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
All right, let me just say this real quick, A
lot more to get to. Kandy's going to do a
station break in a moment. Going from Saint Louis, New
York is culture shock. You go to a Midwestern market
to a number one media market, your accomplishments were lack thereof,
will get magnified a lot more. We'll see if he
gets us straightened out. So go ahead, Katie's takes a breakout.
Want more to get to when we come back.

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Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Back to you, Scott, Thank you, Candy. I'll talk about well.
On Saturday, Skip and I and Candy talked about the
Yankees in the Toronto Blue Jays series. Just so happens
with the Yankees two or three from the days and
now we're two back from the Toronto in the al leagues.
Anybody surprised that the Yankees are starting to make a move? Skip,
what your thoughts? Pretty impressive weekend for them?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think this is good, right,
This is good for both teams. I think that you know,
the Toronto Blue Jays need a little, you know, a
kick in the rear, a little bit to really say, hey,
oh man, they can actually catch us. You know, you
get to this point the year and you're up, and
you're up a few games, and all of a sudden,

(01:17:05):
somebody starts creeping in on you. You start to really,
you know, try to right the ship. You know, you
get you can get a little lack of days ago
when you're in the lead and all these teams chasing,
they're they're grinding out every day. So this is good
for the Yankees to get a little bit closer, and
this is good for Toronto to push them to say, hey,

(01:17:27):
we got to start playing better. We can't just you know,
kind of lay on our laurels and just oh this
is gonna this lead's gonna do. No, you got to
you got to play the game the right way and
and you got to start beating people up at the
best you can.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Kandy, we talked about it, just gonna if your brief
thoughts about the Yankees taking the series against the James.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
I mean, kudos to them. They they need to put
their pedal to the metal because they're a little bit
behind and this is the time of year you want
to get hot and start getting hot now and and
making a move.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Eric, Well, it's great momentum for the Yankees because they
were coming that's coming off the heels of taking two
out of three from the Houston Astros in the Houston,
which is not an easy place to play. But you know,
the Yankees kind of needed that series. We all knew
they had a solid team offensively. It was just a
matter of them putting it together. I think having Aaron
Judge back helps. And also Toronto needs to worry about

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their pitching staff because in the midst of them have it,
they've been benefiting from from a great off from some
great offensive performances and and there they were fortunate enough
to ride it as long as they did. But you know,
their pitching staff i'd be really concerned about come the
postseason because their closer, Jeff Hoffman, is very, very erratic,
and the rest of the staff aside from you know,

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aside from maybe Eric Lauer is kind of just meet
and maybe Kevin Gosman, it's kind of just mediocre at best.
So you know, it doesn't surprise me that Toronto is
starting to lose it a little bit because personally I
thought they weren't really a playoff team. But but I
think now though, I would not shock be if if
there's some more if there's some more heartbreaking Canada.

Speaker 8 (01:19:10):
George, Yeah, you stole my thunder CANTSI yes, to Hoffmann,
your star reliever, but yet he's got a four point
seven seventy RA and seven blown saves and six losses. Yeah,
I definitely agree. The bullpen, especially pitching in general, is
going to be an achilles heel for Toronto unless they

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can buckle down and get that staff and that relief. Uh,
the relievers lined up properly, because it's all full steam
ahead for the Yankees now, I mean they got a
great lineup and it certainly is exciting for baseball.

Speaker 7 (01:19:48):
I mean to see this race.

Speaker 8 (01:19:49):
Nobody expected Toronto probably in that race, but hey, it's
good for baseball.

Speaker 7 (01:19:54):
And I do commend the Yankees jem for taking two
out of three against them.

Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
N Yeah, Yankees needed to take that series. They did
what they needed to do. You know, people here in
the media, they were saying Toronto in the Yankees' heads.
You know, is Boston in the Yankees head? So now
was the time for the Yankees to just show and
play the way the Yankees play. They took two out

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of three from Toronto. They they're playing Detroit, George as
we know, so we'll see what happens with the with
the series against Detroit, and then the Yankees are gonna
have to do it against the Red Sox because I
think that the Red Sox are in the Yankees head
right now. So good for the Yankees. They took two
out of three. I agree with everyone else. I didn't

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think Toronto was gonna be in it this long. Really
I didn't. I didn't think it was gonna be a
three team race.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
But it is, well, great segue to where I'm going now,
that's for sure. Michael Kaye reached out to Don Manningly
to quote the Blue Jays controversy when he did not
believe he was insulting the Blue Jays for not being
a first place team. So hey, listen, Michael Kay and
Don many worked together for a while. What are your

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thoughts skip about Michael kay using his former guy here
to try to slow things down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think he did that out of
respect for Maddie because Maddenly, he's so involved in Toronto
and you know, I'm sure that Michael Kay's never tried
to degrade any other team other than you know, so
who knows. You know, I think he's just trying to
keep his friendship with Don Mattingly more than anything there,

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all right, Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Yeah, the same. I think you know, Don, Don such
a respected individual in the game. So you know, anything
you can do, that more power to you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Use it, Okay, Eric, Michael kay has been at this
for a very long time, so he kind of he
kind of knows the deal, you know. I'm sure it's
not the first time where he's kind of had to
kind of walk back the flames a little bit, So,
you know, the fact that he has done Natley right there.
Who I think is I think arguably is Michael Kay
is probably second favorite player behind Bobby Mercer. You know,

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I think that's part of it too. But you know,
it's just, you know, Michael Kay is just kind of
trying to walk back and things a little bit. So
why not use your buddy to at least help you
out when everyone when everyone else doesn't want doesn't want.

Speaker 8 (01:22:27):
To George, Yeah, you know every time that you know,
there's a long season and you're gonna have some back
and forth in that sort of situation.

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
It is interesting though, because you know, Madvin Lee's selling
as you guys.

Speaker 8 (01:22:40):
Know you talked to him Scott earlier, and having a
great time with Toronto and they are a good team.
And so I'm happy to see that Don is happy too,
because he's on the other side of the fence now,
not that he wasn't in Miami, we know he was too,
but Michael Kay, Yeah, I mean, you know, the you know,
things get sometimes blown out in proportion, but it's a

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little banter going back and forth.

Speaker 7 (01:23:05):
I don't mind it, really, I really don't.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
You know what I agree with Mickey, He probably did
it because of his friendship with maddeningly, because do you
think anybody in New York cares if Michael k put
down the Toronto Blue Jays. No, they don't care. We
don't care about that stuff in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
You know that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:26):
So I just think it's what Mickey said with Madden Lee,
because who cares if he put down the Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Well, I'll say this, but I'm glad we were able
to bind these two for the most part. Michael Kay's
good people. I met him a few times and I
look forward to hopefully seeing him in Tampa next spring.
Don Mantically people don't know by now, he's certainly one
of my all time favorite people in basebe baseball. I'm
going over to the eighties and I'll say you, Don

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mannically is a lifelong friend, and I'll tell you I
just think the world of time period. All right, let's
go to our peace. Your topic of the night. It's
titled the highest career runners in MLB history. We'll try
to keep this somewhat under control. I'll mention all the
different names. I'm gonna ask you, guys and gal, who
who's the one that earned their money the most? Just

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to try to keep it reasonable, all right, And that's
this a feature topic of the night. Number one is
Justin Verlander at four hundred nineteen million. Huh fo yeah,
can you believe that four hundred and nineteen million, one
hundred and eighty one thousand, sixty sixty sixteen. Number one
Justin Verlander Mcgernald Cabrera ends up getting four hundred million,

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four hundred, ten thousand and six twenty three. Now Rodriguez
was wrought up. Everything is top here at three ninety
nine five oh one oh four Nax Schuzer, three sixty
six million, five fifty six fifty eight nelver Poles mentioned earlier. Okay,
three hundred and forty six million, five forty four thirty six.

(01:24:57):
Zach Grinking. That's an interesting name putting in there. Did
pretty well bring his agent that for sure. Three hundred
and thirty eight million, five hundred and three thousand. Steven
Strasburg not banned for abbreviated correct, You know, only manage
how much more he've made if he stayed healthy. Three
hundred twenty thousand for fifty four hundred and fifty million,

(01:25:17):
I mean three one hundred and twenty thousand, four hundred
three twenty four five dolls zeros. There are too many
digits for me anyway. Mike Trout got three hundred nineteen
million plus, Clayton Kershell three hundred and seven million plus
okay to A one one four two, and David Price
two hundred and seventy one zero thirty one eight forty two.

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What are your talks about this step? Who want which
one really has earned it the most?

Speaker 7 (01:25:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
To me, it's the guy that earned the most. Justin Verlander.
I think that, you know, other than maybe this year,
I would have taken him in a playoff game at
any age. I mean, he used velocity, state ate up,
he's his breaking ball, obviously, always gonna work, he competes,
and uh, he gives you a chance to win.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
You know, I think you know, you see some of these.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Guys, they signed these long term deals, the Cabreras and
the Poolholzes, and there's some some pretty rough years right
on the back end of those ten to twelve year deals.
And for Verlander, man, he has kept it up into
his ripe old age that he is so uh, you know,
this is really the first year I would say, oh man,

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it's it's been a rough one for him, But uh,
you know, I think it's I think it's the guy
that made the most justin Verlander for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Okay, Katie, you know what, It's kind of funny because
as I sat in here and was listening to Mickey,
I was thinking to myself, a pitcher albeit pitches nine
innings if they pitch a full game, but only how
many can how many days and how many days rest,

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whereas a position player could be playing every single game,
could be influential in every single game. So I guess
for me, I would go more towards like poolholes, because
you know, it's someone that affects more games than just
one every four or five games. Not to say that

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a picture isn't well deserved, because if you listen to that,
most of those were pictures, and great pictures at that.
But I think someone that affects the game every single
game or more games than a picture, that's where I
would put mine.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
All right, I mean it shit, got it's easy Berlander.
I mean he's got multiple World Series rings, he's got
multiple Cy Young Awards, especially in the back end of
his career, where the guy was arguably probably better, better
at that point in his career than he wasn't the
first half of his career, you know, especially in Houston.
I think, uh, you know, he definitely did. I mean,
you know, I mean this year, come on, let's be real,

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the guys. The guy's in his forties, you know, by
the time, is always undefeated and there comes a point
in time where the body starts to break down and
you can do nothing about it. But the fact that
he's been able to that he was this good for
this all, I mean, he's definitely earned his earned his paycheck.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
George.

Speaker 8 (01:28:22):
Yeah, it's gonna sound like a repeat here, but I'm
gonna go with Verlander as well. Obviously, championship seasons and
he got the pitching two World Series when he was
a Tiger. Uh And and now, of course, like you
were saying, Mickey, I mean, it's a downer every year
for him, but this guy was was money when you
needed it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:42):
He was right on. I really think that my.

Speaker 8 (01:28:46):
Second choice would be Poolholes, though, but we're only sticking
with one, Scott told me, and that's.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
V Rob And I'm gonna say, diddle didd oh, of course,
you know, I think it's Verlander. Look, look how long
he's been doing it for everyone said his accomplishment, So
I'm gonna make it short. Might pick it for Orlander.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
See if Miguel Cabrera didn't hold on and didn't get
hurt so much for the latter part of his career,
he's in the conversation. Yeah, but he did hold on,
So yeah, I'm going with Justin Verlander. By the way,
a little footnote about David Price. Get this on July thirtieth,
twenty fifteen. David Price, the Toronto Blue Jays, a choir

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David Price and the Tigers before their iconic for their
iconic playoff run an Extinct for Matt Boyd and Daniel Norris.
You like that? Skip any recollection of that trade?

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Yeah, I remember that trade vaguely, you know. I think
at the time, you know, they needed a starter and
David Price was kind of the guy that was kind
of doing that. I remember C. C. Sabbathia, you know,
being the guy, let's go get CC and let him
p in the postseason for us.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
That formula seemed to work from time to time, and
that's that's probably why they went and got David Price.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Candy. Any thoughts real quickly about that?

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Nope, I'll pass, Okay, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Mind people passing the war tops get to Catsy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
I mean, you know, I mean that's uh, you know,
there's always that one. There's always that flavor of the
month and during the trade deadline, and so uh, I'll
just believe it at that there's always that guy everyone
says to go after to uh to make it happen,
and uh, you know, and to me, Charlie, to me,
Charlie Moore was kind of a was kind of a
surprise to me, given this, given given that the year

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he's been having this year, and given his advanced age.
But again, everyone he was he had a little bit
of a stretch there, which I think is what what
ultimately made Baltimore cash in on them while they could.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Well, I'm talking about David Price.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Oh oh, David Price.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Well we'll talk about more in a minute, Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
David Price. You know, you know, he was kind of
he was never really lived up to the potential, but
he was, but he was. It was good for a
period of time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Okay, no problem, George recollections of that traite.

Speaker 8 (01:31:07):
No, I wasn't bored at all, obviously, being in Detroit
giving away one of the top pitchers in the game
at that point. But I will say this, Matthew Boyd
has endured, he really has. He made the All Star
team this year, not in Detroit, but uh and and
Norris for a while. I mean, he had some decent
times as a Tiger after coming over. But again I

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agree with Katsie. I mean, Price has just been one
of those guys that, yeah, he's had some good spots
and good years, but he's just total package. He just
didn't have it consistently enough for me. I think that's
what the Tigers made that move, trying to look for
the future.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
Rob Yeah, it didn't after they made that move move.
Didn't Price have a couple of good games to start
that off right after the trade?

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:31:57):
Right, they he did. So you know at the time,
that was the trade. But like like George said, he
he hasn't lived up to what people thought he was
going to be, so Detroit, Detroit cashed in and and
you know, I don't I don't blame him for making
that deal.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Was Scott was Wasn't he unhappy in Detroit? What wasn't
there rumblings that he might have been a little unhappy there?
I think I think I remember hearing some of that stuff.
You know, I agree with George that boy did. He
came right away and I was like, whoa this guy?
Can he can really pitch?

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
He didn't, Well, hold on, he didn't like the direction
the Tigers were going in and that they start.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
That's right, that's right, that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
That's why he wasn't too pleased. But the Tigers had
something going there and all of a sudden they got disrupted.
Great question. He didn't like the direction that it was going.
All right, we talked about Charlie Morton. Now we'll get
to that trade, and that says Tigers did it. Claire
right handed pitcher Charlie Morton from the Bulb Memorials and
the Orioles get process Mika Ashman, an un ranked pitching

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prospect for cash considerations, we know more than had an
Olympics start with a ten point three six and run average. So, George,
you're closer to the situation. What's going on with Charlie
Morton Detroit? At times he looks good and there are
times he's not looking good at all.

Speaker 8 (01:33:20):
Well, that's so true, Scott. I mean, you know he's uh,
he's been like herky jerky. The first game for example,
you know, uh, back in August third at Philadelphia, the
he pitched six innings.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
Only gave up one run. I mean, he was right
spot on.

Speaker 8 (01:33:37):
Next game, comes back against the Angels and he's stunk
up the joint, you know, for four and the third
innings and gives up six runs. So he's got this
this this good bad formula thing. Unfortunately, the last two
times he's pitched against Houston and the Athletics those also
have he won the one, he won the Houston one,

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So he's he's in this bad and fourth mode. And
then they played the Mats okay, and in September first,
and he gives up six runs in that game. And
then his last appearance against the White Sox, he gave
up They pulled him after three innings. He gave up
three runs and four hits. So I think right now
with the situation is with him unless he can, you know,

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definitely shut these teams down. You know, I don't think
he's got a solid chance, but who knows. I mean,
the Tigers are fishing for a number two three starter
in the postseason as we know, and Flaherty and Mice
and Morton are in the mix. I know that Hinch
likes Morton because remember he played for Age at one time.

(01:34:44):
So but I think that you know, yeah, he is
a veteran forty years old or whatever. He still has
some baseball left in him.

Speaker 7 (01:34:53):
But he's not going to get you past five or
six innings. But that's okay. But when when you' thirt in,
you know, allowing five runs and six runs like he
has in a couple of these games, two games, three games,
that's not good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
That's not good, all right, Skip, you talk about Charlie.
When I thought AJ Hench could get him fit, you
leave Baltimore not doing well, all of a sudden, he
goes to the trailer with a chance of the manager
and he's all too familiar with.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what this is, right,
He's Charlie played for AJ. AJ probably pushed this, And
there's something to be said about a guy that has
a lot of postseason experience and that has done very
very well for in the In the postseason, you know,
it's a different game, just because you know, some young

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guys pitching well in September, you know, and and I
got me a veteran guy that might be just you know,
struggling a little bit. I might go with the veteran
guy because he's been there and done that. This is
a different stage in the postseason. That's why they got him.
They wanted another option to have in the postseason. Look,
you don't even have to be on the you know,

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the the first postseason roster. They can put him on
the next one, you know, if somebody doesn't work out.
So they wanted options, and that's what they went and
got Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Morton for Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Mm hmm, give me, give me, come back to me,
go to Eric, Go ahead, Eric.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
I mean, you know, I was surprised he was even tradable.
I thought he was given how it had gone in Baltimore,
especially early on, I thought I thought he wasn't worth
anything to except for a trip down, a trip down
to the df A. I thought any day at that
point he would be DFA. But you know that, you know,
but I was shocked Baltimore got something for him. But

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I think it just came to a matter of you know, A,
he has a history of pitching well in the postseason,
and B he's pitched for a J. Hinch. I think
I think A J. Hinch was probably behind that move
more than any more than anybody else in that in
the front office. And I think I think he kind
of lot for him because of his familiarity with Charlie
Morton and knew that they could get him for essentially nothing.

(01:37:05):
So we'll see how it goes though, But uh yeah, Detroit,
aside from tarry Scoobls kind of kind of had to
figure out that that that that number two to the
middle part of their rotation the postseason because it because
Trek can't be just can't be just the guy going
deep in the ball games because your bullpen can only
last so long. Rob.

Speaker 6 (01:37:25):
Yeah, I think Hinch, you know, I think that he
uh definitely pushed for it. I think, of course of
the postseason experience. Of course. My my quick question is
why was that the Orioles' biggest off season signing last winter.
That is what I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
I was shocked. I was shocked at that one myself,
because I knew they needed to pit. I knew they
needed pitching, and what they did was they were banking
on Grayson Rodriguez coming back, and Grayson Rodriguez never came back,
so that put their that put their rotation in harm's way,
and Kyle Bradish and Tyler Wells only have only come
back now, and who knows how long they'll hold up

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because at this point that they essentially have two Tyler
Glass now is in their rotation. Good went healthy, but
their arms can only hold up for so long. So
when they made that move, I didn't like it because
it was not a suitable ace to replace and outgoing
cor Corbyn Burns, and I knew that their rotation would
once again put them in trouble, and it did.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Candy, you know, sometimes people, sometimes players need to change
the scenery and sometimes they need a familiar face, and so, uh,
maybe that's what this was. Uh it'll remain to be
seen how well he does the rest of the year,
but you know, sometime, like I said, sometimes you just

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need to change the scenery.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Okay, let's go to another trade deadline move involving the
Milwaukee Brewers. Unfortunately, this one doesn't look good for there
was at the moment, but the Brewers acquired Jordan Montgomery
in a deal with the Arizona Diamond Advance was Shelby Miller.
This isn't looking too good, Candy, is that right now?
Because Shelby Miller has done.

Speaker 7 (01:39:10):
For the year.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Correct, Correct, But you don't know that going into when
you make a tree, whether it's gonna you know, work
out in your favor or not, or someone's gonna get injured. Unfortunately,
he got injured and there's not much more you can
do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
And Jordan Montgomery was a salary dump. Yep, Well skep
some quick thoughts on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's exactly what Candy said.
You just can't predict the future. You try to do
the best you can, and sometimes it bites you where
you don't want to be bitten.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Derek, Well, you know Joria Montgomery was, you know, well,
Jordan Montgomery was a salary dump. And I think the
Brewers took the Arizona Diamondback to were begging anybody to
take Jordan Montgomery at that point, and really Shelby Miller came.
Shelby Miller him along with it because at the time
he was he was having a solid year for the
Arizona Diamondbacks. I think it was he was even their

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closer at one point. But and keep in mind though
he was on the injured list of pron arrival, so
like so with a forum injury, so there was a
little bit of risk involved there. But other than that, though,
he really wasn't great with the Brewers in eleven in
eleven games, so really, you know, I didn't think he'd
be on the postseason roster given how it was going.

(01:40:27):
But you know, it's one of those moves where you
don't know, because keep in mind, coming over from Arizona,
he had an e er of one ninety eight. So
at the Andy was on the injured list. So the
Brewers thought took a chance, thought they were getting a steal.
It turned it didn't work it. Ultimately it didn't work out,
and you know, those types of things happened fortunately for them.

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When you're in the position they were in at the
trade deadline, you could take you could take those kinds
of you can take those kinds of risks because the
Brewers at that point, I think were planning on planning
on a plan in for a wildcard spot. But obviously,
you know, August came around and they just lift the
baseball world on fire. But you know, again, you're you're

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in there. They were in perfect playoff position. You could
take those kinds of risk. I mean, it wasn't a
bad move at the time. But you know, but right
now that that's hide sight, I think we're just looking
at it now where you know, we see the end result.
But at the time though it was a decent move.
Guy's a dollar ninety The guy's got a dollar ninety
eight earn run ravage. He was closing for the diamondback.

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So you know, you're on paper though at the time
you look at you're getting yourself a pretty good bullpen piece.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Okay, George Route, I have a couple of head scratchers
I want to get in the night.

Speaker 8 (01:41:41):
Go ahead, George, Oh yeah, I agree with all what's
been said. I mean, Sheldon is uh, he's a veteran.
I mean, you're trying to catch lightning in a bottle.
You certainly had a great like you said, uh, statistics,
there are eight there with Arizona, and unfortunately, you know,
he fell victims to the end, and like you know,

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I really think that it was a good move for
the Brewers on paper and obviously in the in the
time that he was there.

Speaker 7 (01:42:08):
It's unfortunate though that he's heard.

Speaker 6 (01:42:11):
Rob I'll make it quick. Arizona is the winner of
that deal with the salary dump.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
And you know what, I'll make it quicker Rob Diddo.
And I don't make him that quick diddo. I'm gonna
have to hashtag ditto. All right, Let's go to a
couple of headscratchers. Nolan Ryan on August First, get this,
Nolan Ryan actually had fourteen and thirty seven strikeouts after

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his after the age thirty nine season. Skiff we alreays
talked about Nolan Ryan, we talked about him earlier, but
get that. Fourteen hundred and thirty seven strikeouts after his
age thirty nine season. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
That that's crazy. I mean, what a what a freak
of nature he is. He's just superhuman. You know, you
see him in when he was sixty two. I think
he threw eighty five miles per hour in a first pitch.
That's that's insane. You know, he was the man, he
was my idol. I loved him. That's that's who I
wanted to be. Was was Nolan Ryan. And after answering this,

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I'm going to excuse myself to the restroom for a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
But I'll be right back. I go ahead, and Candy
even pick it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Up, so you know, Nolan Ryan Lifetime three twenty four two,
he was an eight time All Star. I mean that's
just I mean, think about that. An eleven times strikeout leader.
What an amazing picture. Like he just you know, he

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had a lot. He had five thousand, seven hundred and
fourteen strikeouts in his career. That's a lot. That's amazing, great.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Ur I mean, that's the greatest picture of all time.
I mean, the guy, the guy never practically never left
the mount just asked Robert Ventura. He's he's a you know,
the guy's a legend. Of course. It doesn't surprise me
that he does that because the guy also just you know,
he kind of he evolved as the game evolved, which
is something that not a lot of pictures I have

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really have really been able to do. I mean, Justin
Berlander did, and Nolan Ryan was like at the forefront
of that. That's why he was able to pitch forever,
because he kind of changed with the times. And either way, though,
even at the age of forty, you still had to
go in the batter's box and buckle up against them,
against that, against Nolan Ryan's high.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Heat, George.

Speaker 8 (01:44:33):
Nolan Ryan was like the Pete Ross. You know, he
reminded me of Pete Rose, of that aggressive attitude. You know,
he would take any crap and he was out there.
He was a fiery guy, and he really took control
of the any game that he pitched in, he really did.
And you know he's got several outstanding records. But man,

(01:44:54):
oh man, Scot you over fourteen hundred strikeouts? Would you
say after age thirty eight or thirty nine out? That's
what I said, George, unbelievable, unbelievable. Always loved them as
a picture. Very good friend. If two presidents, you know,
George W.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
And George H. W.

Speaker 8 (01:45:09):
Bush, they're very close to Nolan Ryan. That's all I'm
gonna say. Because obviously the connection with the Rangers and
the Astros.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
All right, well, there you go. You get out of it.
You've bailed yourself out of a political move because of
that clarification. Otherwise you would have been on the wrong
side of the political donk house you were about to enter.
But you saved yourself, Okay, Rob.

Speaker 6 (01:45:31):
Yeah, you know what, It'll never happen again. I just
have one quick thing to say, Really, met Nolan Ryan
traded the Jim for COSTI. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
I enjoyed some of his quick takes. You're doing good, though, Rob,
Really no, it's okay, because I can tell you right
now that was definitely a forgetable trade for them.

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
Another I was gonna say, though, I know, I know
w Bush Poster, Noan Ryan in the Oval office.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
I do know that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
All right, let's go on to another head scatcher, because
you can see a lot more Etro, Nolan, Ryans and over.
Of course, in the next several weeks. I have a
lot of comparisons between these Hall of famers, and the
next one will be Ichiro Suzuki would have to go
hitless in four hundred and forty four consecutive at Bath
first career, banning average a dip below three hundred, and

(01:46:27):
that a headscratch or what? And to make things even
more interesting, Niziro Suzuki joined the three thousand hit club
on August seventh, twenty sixteen, with a triple against the Marlins.
All right, well that's just to mention skeep what are
your thoughts about that? Oh? For four hundred, let me
go back. This is just too surreal, man, four hundred

(01:46:49):
and forty four consecutive as Bath for the get Walteran
And that's a real yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
I mean I've read this, I think about like Wade Boggs.
I've read it about Tony Gwynn. Those guys, those guys
that hit, you know, those lifetime averages that are way
above three hundred. It takes a while when they since
they've compiled so many at bats, it takes a while
to ever get that thing down. So what a what

(01:47:14):
an unbelievable hitter he was that That's amazing that he
could go over four hundred and forty four and still
be hitting three hundred in the big leagues. That's almost
the season worth that about bats, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
That's why I put it in here. Just don't worry
over the next several weeks, people, I got lots of
interesting comparisons between a Jero and Nola Ryan. I just
wanted to start off with these two.

Speaker 8 (01:47:36):
Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
You know, he's he had so many hits between his
time in MLB and his time in the the Nipping
League over in Japan, Like, it's just crazy to see
just the all around good hitter like you you didn't
want him to come up to bat and the game

(01:48:00):
was on the line, and there was runners on base
because you're like, well do I walk them or do
I pitch to him? And but that is just a
crazy step. I mean, that is one of those crazy
stats that won't be broken.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
There you go, you better tell that to your partner, Chris, Rob,
because now you get the comment on it.

Speaker 6 (01:48:22):
Yeah, listen that that is amazing. It's crazy, all right?
What else can I say about it? But one thing
I could say is one vote. One guy didn't vote
for him for the Hall of Fame. Come on now,
now that's crazier than the four and four.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
Well, obviously Rob seems to understand my philosophy. GMT a
great mind stake alike. And that will be my comment
and we'll leave it to Georgia and Erica and I
have one other interesting streak. We're going to get to
the night George.

Speaker 7 (01:48:53):
Yeah, eight years in Japan.

Speaker 8 (01:48:54):
Like Candy mentioned, he had twelve hundred hits in Japan
and then he comes over here has over three thousand,
threeh eight nine.

Speaker 7 (01:49:03):
I really think that he is just a great person.

Speaker 8 (01:49:07):
He came into baseball right when they needed and especially Seattle,
and I really think that that's an astonishing stat. Like
you said, Scott, that's a lot of a lot of
the whole season. Almost a bad betting to go below
that three hundred mark. And thank god we didn't see that.
He is a great hit, a great, great baseball player,

(01:49:28):
all right, Catsie.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
I mean, you know, Pichiro is like just was just
playing a different game when he came over. I mean,
he could he could essentially do what he wanted out
in the field, do what he wanted in the box.
He was just that great. I mean, you know, it
doesn't surprise me that he has that mind blowing stack
because the guy didn't mind blowing things on the field
all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Great. True, let's stay with the Hall of Fame things
because this one, this one's even an unbelievable tattoo that
relates to Milwaukee Brewers and oaklam A's fans. Real well,
how about this for a street Rollie Fingers has been
to thirty three straight Hall of Fame inductions. Is his
own kip thirty three straight Hall of Fame and this
guy a pure dedicated Hall of Fame or what Raleigh Fingers?

(01:50:14):
And one thing that he was a hack of a
relief pitcher that could go multiple endings against days which
you'll never go to see anyway or very rare. Josh
haters don't grow on trees. Well, think about rolling figers
thirty three straight inductions.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Yeah, that that's really awesome, right, I mean, obviously a
fraternity that he's proud to be a be a part
of the Hall of Fame. I mean, you know, he's
you know, he's a guy you see around round baseball
a lot. You know, I always saw him, uh, you know,
at games and he was just always present. So a
guy that loves the game, loves to be around it

(01:50:50):
even in retirement, and obviously loves to be part of
that Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
You know, it goes to kind of prove that when
you're part of an elite group and you get to
that elite level, that you want to support others that
get to that elite level as well. I mean, and
let's face it, it's an honor. It's an honor to
be in that hall. We talk about how many some

(01:51:18):
of these people that we think deserve to be in
the Hall that aren't in the Hall. So kudos to
him for supporting the sport he loves and the players
that have excelled in the sport.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
He loves and the amazing fingers did well with the
eight and the Milwaukee Brewers, and of course.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
We all.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
Love play in person. That was one of the things
I I can say is that I've actually seen him
play in person.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
That was really cool, unbelievable. Milwaukee Brewers too, well markets,
I mean Oakland compared to a small market Catsie.

Speaker 4 (01:52:03):
Well, don't forget though, he had a great run with
the San Diego Potters as well before Milwaukee. People forget people,
A lot of people forget about that and actually have fun.
Fact I actually I've I actually drank with him once.
It's you know, it's great. You know Raley. You know,
he actually still lives here in Wisconsin too, which is
which he's fantastic. He always shows up the Brewers events.

(01:52:25):
You know, he's always talked. He's you know, I've you know,
I I met him once at an event where they
were opening up the now the Barrel Yard, which is
a restaurant inside the ball inside American Family Field. And
great guy to talk to. Greg just you know, a
guy who just loves baseball. He will he will eat
it up. The guy is you know, once in a
while you'll see him at the ballpark and he's everywhere.

(01:52:47):
He's very delightful to talk to, great with the fans
and who know him and and he gets it and
just overall though he likes you know, he's he's very
proud of the fact that he is part of that
Hall of Fame fraternity. Not every player gets to go
in there. I mean, he's obviously one of the greatest
closer of all time. Who could who could pitch for
who would get a three plus inating save, which is

(01:53:08):
something that you you rarely ever see nowadays. You're lucky
if you get a two winning, say much less a three.
But you know, again, you know, he's very proud of
the fact that he's that he's in the Hall of Fame.
I can I can confirm that, well.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Thirty three straight, I'm going there after his own and
Dutch and that speaks fine. And you're right, Eric, he's proud, George.

Speaker 7 (01:53:29):
Yeah, he is proud. And that's a very exemplary of him.

Speaker 8 (01:53:33):
And it is like Vicky said, you know, it is
a fraternity there that he loves and wants to be
part of and comes back for it. Several players I
know Yogi Bearer would come every year to that and
and of course many others did, but that's that's outstanding
by Ralei.

Speaker 7 (01:53:48):
He loves the game, he loves the sport and obviously loves.

Speaker 8 (01:53:51):
Getting around to seeing his old buddies there Reggie Jackson
and then many others there that he knows from years
gone by.

Speaker 7 (01:53:59):
So I've always admired him, I really have as a ballplayer.

Speaker 8 (01:54:03):
And now now that you mentioned this about his love
for the game with the Hall of Fame of the
streak gone, that's awesome, Ron, what a.

Speaker 6 (01:54:10):
Great streak and ambassador for baseball. Also, I heard that
he loved to spread that the Hall of Fame put out.
It was much better than enough he got from the
Oakland A's in the clubhouse.

Speaker 7 (01:54:21):
That's sure fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
Yeah, thirty three my favorite number, Molly fingers go thirty three,
say anymore? But I'll tell you he's one one of
those types of people where, unless you have a Josh
hater around, who's the only one who's gonna get multiple
any shays? It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
So so next week David Bend Now he was the
second reliever inducted into the Hall of Fame too.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
Yes, interesting, yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
Well, I'll tell you what rightfully, So he deserves me there. Well,
next week's show, what we're gonna do is we're gonna
be talking about Anthony Rondome because he loved baseball, so
we hope he can do this. For next week's edition
of one hundred and eighth S's as Baseball Talk, Anthony
Rodeo will be one of our top storylines going in
and next week got a lot of accomplished tonight. So
but that said, as we get ready to wrap up

(01:55:11):
the show, Skip everybody know you get oldie. Also, we
have a great show on Saturday. Cats, you kind to
join us? Go ahead, Skip, Yeah, anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Yeah, if anybody's interested in baseball lessons and wants to
travelers in the you know, the southeast area, just find
me on Facebook and we can set something up. I'm
really enjoying my life teaching lessons right now, and you
know I think that I would love to have as
many customers as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
Well, we'll continue to grow that as well. Skip, that's
why we're on Monday nights, and he will talk about
Saturday it with Can'tsy. It'll be interesting. But we had
a great show last Saturday. That show continues to grow.
Talking baseball with myself and Mickey Callaway, and of course
Candy was on, Cantsy is going to be on, and
we'll see what other guests that skip the cons are up.
All right, can't let everybody know that you hold out

(01:56:00):
the Candy will wrap things up after Georgia Rop or
the final station break.

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
You can follow me on my Twitter at Sports Team News,
where I tweet about all things baseball, and you can
check out my blog at bellyfsports dot com where I
where I'm writing and covering all things baseball. If you
think I don't like your team, I probably don't. And
also you can find you can find me on on
Mickey and Scott's new podcast This Come a Weekend where
I'm where I'm set to make my debut. And let

(01:56:26):
me tell you, nothing will be left off the table.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
I have no doubt that's where we added you. All
right here, I'll tell you one thing. You're one of
those grittiest guys I've ever seen, and you're definitely gonna
fit in with us. All right, George, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:56:40):
You can find my uh articles on they sell Florida
Tribute website and at the contributors section, and at the
end of that site there's a link to my book.

Speaker 7 (01:56:50):
Uh, it's available at Amazon dot com.

Speaker 8 (01:56:52):
Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the Air, and also you can
follow me on Yahoo at gikronyaow dot com and on
Twitter at san g Sports ninety nine also LinkedIn and
as well as other avenues so social media.

Speaker 7 (01:57:06):
So yeah, thanks for having me on. It's always great
talking baseball with you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
George will be on next one. George will definitely be
on next Monday night for sure. Actually it's usually on
Monday and Wednesdays unless we have them on a Thursday,
so it's a little bit of a rotation there, but anyway,
George will be on next Monday as well. Enjoy his time.
Rob go ahead, Candy takes it away after a week.

Speaker 6 (01:57:27):
Yeah, check us out at NYMLB Talk Me my co
host Chris. If you didn't see last Friday's episode with
Bill the met Puppet, you have to go check it out.
It was it was funny. I'm telling you, it's really funny.
Check it out Tomorrow. We'll announce our guests for next
Friday Night this coming Friday night, so check us out

(01:57:50):
Mondays and Fridays usually Fridays at ten. That's our best show,
all right, candy, Let's take us home.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
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the Microphone, Tuning into the enduring wisdom of Visionary Leaders.
It is written by our host, Scott the Motor City
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(01:58:20):
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(01:58:42):
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