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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Happy Monday, everybody. That's it Monday and Night Baseball. No,
I don't even think I'm Howard Cosell. I hate the
guy anyways, so don't rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Whatever left k coach.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I liked Ojay Simpson's interview that I had with you
many years ago. It's the one you didn't want to
get me. Guess what, You're dead and I'm alive and
little brother, So we'll leave it at that. From a
man who had a rug on top of his head
and pretended he was pretty good at what he did,
Howard Cosell, Did I ever think I met them now?
But this is Monday Night baseball, not a football there
(00:54):
if we don't care, if we're baseball and we're gonna
get right to it. Let me talk about the crew
here and we have a busy we want to get
to and believe me, he's Rob Roscott, welcome back to.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The Big Show.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Thanks, good to be back, Scott, good Candy as always, great.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
To be here. Great to see the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Starting absolutely, Eric.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Good to be back, Scott. I'm just happy my two
pals Robin Mickey could actually be here today despite the
trash offense of Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I kind of had a feeling you did. Okay,
all right, Skip is uh you don't see him tonight.
He's driving, but well you can hear a lot of
his audio when he goes out there and finds the
spot where it's safe for Okay with that too, well, Skip,
plad to have you back on my buddy.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me, Scott.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, you're very welcome. Oh we love having you. Skip.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Will mark my word, Eddy Pray there was awesome and
professing the people he's going to contribute to someone in
the chat room man laughing out leaves George Eichorn, who
has more lives than Morris.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, go ahead, George.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Yeah, to be bad, good, to be bad?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
All right, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
All right, Well, let's get to a busy agenda and
then we'll go out there and talk about what live aid,
because there is a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The schedule for the wildcard round over the next three days,
we'll give you the set of times, and then on
Wednesday and Thursdays they'll be duplicated. Then we're gonna talk
about the odds on tuesdays you catch a wild card.
The Tigers at the Guardians will be at one o
eight pm obviously be hosted in Cleveland, and then we'll
be on ESPN. So if you want to find out
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text me let me tell you some people. I will
be watching The Tiger for The Guardian, a series that
should have been in Detroit at America Park. But don't
let me get started. Those Tigers that they wanted to
play in the Great Lakes, it just wasn't going to
be on the Detroit side of it. Continuing the theme here,
the Padres in the cover this is a pretty good
interesting series. Will be an ABC at three eight Eastern time,
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Red Sox and the Yankees, and of course that will
be on ABC. So Padre wfpre's Cubs ABC through early
Eastern time Red Sox Yankee six eight pm US then
and the Reds and the Dodgers. Some interesting matchups of
the past. Then these times also apply to Wednesday and Thursday,
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same time. Question is now, what I do think is
I have a feeling they could change on Thursday if
certain teams are knocked out, So I wouldn't be surprised
if that is subject to change. But at least a
Twoday and Wednesday after we have some intriguing matchups. We
have obviously the Padres and the Cubs. I remember back
in eighty four when a lot of us in Detroit
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were hoping that the Cubs and Tigers would faced off,
but the Tigers at the Padres, and many many years
ago we ended up seeing the Reds and the Dodgers
were frequent playoffs rivals, but that didn't take place.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So, but that.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Particular said, we'll talk about the times, Rob, what are
your talks about the times?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
The time? Well, the Yankees Red Sox aren't really prime
time because I guess the Dodger game in La, so
it's kind of I would have thought that the Yankees
Red Sox would be in prime time because that's gonna
be the big one. Really, that's gonna be the big series.
But you know, times are right. I'm gonna be watching
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the games. It doesn't matter what time they are on, Kady,
you know, I mean.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
They gotta play, they they Baseball is so long and
these series it takes so long that they've got to
try and get them all in in a day so
that so to be able to have them on, you know,
back to back to back, so everybody can watch all
of them as opposed to putting them on at the
same time, I get it, and they've got to pick
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which ones they think are gonna draw.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Plus it depends on where they're playing them.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Like obviously, when they're playing La Dodgers that's out on
the West Coast, they're not gonna play that as the
one o'clock game, you know. So it makes sense just
looking forward to seeing some of.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
These men chips Eric.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I mean, you know, you have what they go by
with in terms of determining these matchups is the star power.
I mean there's quite a bit of star power in
La with Otani, Freddie Freeman moved your vets, you know,
and Blake Blake Snell, all those stars out there. So
and then also on the even on the Red side
with Eli Da La Cruz and plus sometimes it comes
down to you know, the the you know, you.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
Got to that for you know, the three hours.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
So that's gonna be like a nine o'clock start time,
which would be over there as seventy start time. So
you're kind of battling the time zone difference. As far
as the Yankees Red Sox are concerned. I mean, there
is star power, but it's not like what it It's
not nearly what it used to be where you where
back in the day it was Pedro, David Ortiz, Alex Rodriguez,
Derek Jeter, Maron Rivera and the like. So you know,
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they got stars, but it's not nearly what it used
to be. And then Odds and then the one o'clock
game between the Tigers and the Guardians. You know, I'm
not surprised they put that out there because in Cleveland,
aside from Jose Ramirez, you know, who else do you have?
And then Detroit, Yeah, like Riley Green though, but you know,
they're they were they were lucky to even they were
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they got very lucky that they didn't miss the playoffs.
I mean you could probably you know, had they you know,
had they missed the playoffs, their class wuld probably would
have been more embarrassing than the New York Mets this
past weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Excellent points there.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, you know, they're just trying to get as
many viewers as they can.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
They're not really honing in on one game or the other.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
They're just trying to make sure they can make these
East Coast and West coast times work and try to
get as much TV viewers overall as they can. So
you know, that's the one downside to having all these
wild card teams get in. You have to kind of,
you know, lose some of the better teams during time.
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But I love the fact that we get more teams
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
They have along the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (07:05):
Because George, yeah, I'm not surprised by these times. Detroit
and Cleveland probably the least attractive. So that's why they
made that early San Diego at the Cubs treo eight
that sounds about right at Central time.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
It would be two to.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
Eighth in Chicago, the Yankees in Boston, h come on,
you know, six o eight. Technically, I know it's not
prime time, but it is going to go into prime time.
And then of course Cincinnati in LA they started that
one as late as they possibly could, you know, at.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Nine oh eight.
Speaker 10 (07:45):
And in defense of the league, I mean, let's face it,
I mean they didn't think the Yankees probably or the
Dodgers were going to be in this first round. Most
people had them, of course coasting to the division winning.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
But the fact matter.
Speaker 10 (07:59):
Is is now this this is a strong way for
ABC and esyah because we know they're going out. So
I think the times are about the best they could
do with it, Scott.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
They did the best they could.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The excellent points. George, you say ABC and the FDN
are going out. That's a good point. People should under
esthimate that. I'll give you my quick take on this.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Riley Green unfortunately hit a club you don't want to hit,
the two hundred strikeout club. For all the power numbers
he hit, he ended up he hasn't had two hundred strikeouts.
Hopfully cut that down a little bit next year. Hello,
Eddie Brailer. Once again, great job early on, So you
have it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Riley Green.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Of course there at school as well. We're gonna find
out how much he's really gonna be worth that big
contract that he's becking the Fay to get later on
down the road. If Terry's looking to make a good
case for it, then I would fower him. I would
definitely make sure you have some strong postseason performance. And
now the Tigers, who should have wonted the Vision title didn't.
But again i'll go back to what Eric said and
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that being missed. Okay, they at least the Tigers got
in a playoff and it's days off any more embarrassment,
and we'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So with that said, let's transition over to the odds
for the World Series. Billy's going at plus four twenty
five the Maritors plus four fifty, the Dodgers plus five hundred,
the Blue Jays plus seven fifty, the Brewers plus seven fifty,
the Yankees plus eight hundred, the Padres plus fourteen hundred,
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cub plus fourteen hundred, the Tigers plus eighteen hundred, the
Red Sox plus twenty two hundred, Guardians plus three thousand,
and the Reds plus thirty five hundred. I'm going to
Rob here, Okay, went on your show with Savino in you. Yes,
I did not tell you, Rob that I thought Seattle
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was going to be dangerous. So you're drinking my kool
aid now, Rob.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yep, you did say that.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That's trait.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I remember that, and I also remember Savino said it
would be Seattle and Mets in the World Series.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He said that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I also stuck it to SEVENO and I called him
out on that show about the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Anthony Savino's credit, he sat there and took it like
a man, or like a Selvino man, is what he did.
And he became a believer in the Toronto Blue Jays,
and by the way, then did win the first of
his entitle in ages.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'll get to that next week. Just wanted to touch
that out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So but that said, let's just talk about the odds
real quick, Rob, We'll moving along.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
The Yeah, they're they're fair. And the funny thing is,
before every baseball season, you know, with a bunch of
my friends, we kid around and we put uh small
bets on draft kings for the long shots and and
this year I picked the Reds. So we know the
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Reds aren't gonna win the World Series. But I just
think it's funny that out of the long shot pool
that we did, I took the Reds.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I don't think that's so bad, Skip, do you because
Terry Frankcono is at the hell what do you think?
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Absolutely, I wouldn't count him out. Rob, you might be
uh right this World Series this year.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You're right, Nick, You're definitely right. He's dangerous and right now,
as far as I'm concerned, he's the best manager in
the postseason right now.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, absolutely, So, Skip, which one of these do you
like the best?
Speaker 6 (11:33):
You know, you can't ever argue with the odds right there.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
They put so much research into those and use so
many metrics and and things like that that the.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Odds are gonna be what the odds are.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
If I had to bet on a team, I would
pick the Yankees, you know, I think that for them
going into the playoffs, this has been an ideal season.
I know everybody was kind of upset, you know that,
Oh they were on the bubble at some point.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
But the way they finished this season, I would be
picking the Yankees to win the World Series at this point.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
They're they're on a high, they're rolling in there playing
really good baseball, and then they would.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Be my choice to win it all.
Speaker 10 (12:14):
Okay, fair enough, George, Well, yeah, I think the odds
are cle in my eyes, really moved up. Okay, And
the fact that they're now near the top of the
heat with as far as the betting favorite goes is
quite remarkable.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
What are great achievements for them so far. But again,
you know, you know, just because they got high odds
doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna win their series. I mean,
you gotta obviously play the game.
Speaker 10 (12:42):
As the Saint goes to win Detroit's odds, of course,
sank low. I mean Cleveland's odds are going to be low.
In Cincinnati. Three of those Midwest teams are going to
be on the lower end of things. I you know,
I'm still going with the Phillies. I know that Phillies
obviously had a lot of uh pressure on them the
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last several years, but they have made great strides this year.
And and I know Skip said the Yankees, but I
think it'll be one of those two, either Philly or
the Yankees. But I think the odds are pretty much
as I expected, Scott. It's just Seattle is kind of
the sleeper there.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Man way up high.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Excellent points, George, excellent points all the way around. Thank you, okay, Eric.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Well, the Yankees to end the year, they they banged
out eight wins in a row to end the season.
And that's really good. I don't care, you know who
they were playing, whatever, you're still you're you still got
you still got to play those games, and you're playing
every single day, So I don't I don't want to
hear about oh, they had it easy down the Strets,
because mind you, before they went down to this, they
went through the gauntlest by going seven and five against
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teams like the Astros when they were contending at the time,
and also also the Red Sox and and so it
was so and all, and I think also the Mariners
as well. So it wasn't It wasn't easy. But you know,
you're they're running. They're really hot right now, they're riding
a wave. They gave Toronto a run for their money
and actually had to and made them use Kevin Gossman,
which is something that I know the Blue Jays didn't
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want to do and they would have rather saved him
for the They would have rather saved it for the postseason.
But now that but but now in already thin pitching staff,
is is that they're already gonna they're gonna have to
figure something out there. However, I think guys were really
underestimating Cleveland here, you know, because here's why this team.
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We all thought they were dead in July, especially right
after the trade deadline and Emmanuel Class getting suspended. Who
can blame him. But however, Steven Bow he kept that
team together. That's not easy. And you know, and next
thing you know, boom, they made Detroit's It's what seemed
like an insurmountable fifteen and a half game lead evaporate
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with the snap of a finger, and they ended up
taking the American League Central Division. I don't I think
we're I think we're underestimating, you know, just just what
this team could do. Yeah, paper thoughts, you know, they're
kind of they're kind of mediocre at best. But keep
in mind, though, they just they just took the division
and overcame a lead. We said this about the Diamondbacks
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a couple of years ago when they went to the
World Series. So I wouldn't count out Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (15:18):
I'm not going to count on anybody because to get here,
to win, to get as many wins as they have,
there's a reason why they're all in the playoffs. Yes,
some were hot in the beginning of the year, some
in the middle of the years, some of the end.
Obviously you want to be hot at the end, but
don't count any of them out. You just never know
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and are the odds. Let's face it, we all know.
I'm a Brewers fan. I want my Brewers to win,
but they weren't the top. They were the They have
the best record in baseball, but they don't have the
best odds of winning because they haven't proven that they
can win the World Series.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
So what.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But we've all made different points for different teams.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
I think any one of them, if they get hot
in this playoffs, any one.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Of them can win.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
All right, let me close this topic off by saying
this number one you brought up for Brewers, we're gonna
mention that they did set a franchise record for ninety
seven to win. More power to the Brewers, evidently, Pat Murphy,
the Craig Council.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No drop off there. I don't know why. I have
a crazy feeling that Seattle's going to get the World Cheries.
I don't even know why.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And if you're really looking for the ultimate storyline, wouldn't
it be amazing if it was Seattle Milwaukee matchup.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Time will tell, But that's something to put out there
even at that.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All right, as we continue on, George Eikrn and I
will remember this as long as we will ever remember anything.
So twenty September twenty seventh, nineteen ninety nine, final game
at Tiger Stadium, Detroit, George, if this is something that
we could just relate to everybody else we both covered
that game. If there's a day that I can freeze
in my lifetime and time it was going to that
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particular game.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
We were up in the press five six chicken all
in and it was just surreal.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Before we get to that, I'll also mention a couple
of things that September twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, Tigers
put opposed to play off first, albeit I think they
becked into it, but that for another time. And unfortunately
Detroit lost the legendary broadcaster and Ray Lane who passed
away at the age of ninety five is what he did.
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So there's a lot to digests in this situation. I
met ranked to the Detroit sports broadcast at the station
what do they call it these days, Detroit Sports Media Association. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yes,
So rest in peace, Ray. I do have pictures of
you and a whole lot of memories. Tiger's final game
is September twenty seventh, nineteen ninety nine, and the Tigers
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getting the postseason. All right, you know what, George, you
can lead off and I'm gonna whip it around for everybody.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Sure, sure, and yes, Scott, it was a great game.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
I'm so glad you were at side, and vice versa,
as we said, and the old and appropriately they put
us in the old press deck as they called it
for football, which is exposed to the elements.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
They don't have glass in front of us in the
main press box.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
The Tiger's team they had to glass well anyways, So
we got a real feel, Scott and I got a
real feel for this game, and the crowd and the
intensity and the excitement, cameras popping all over the place
and all that Robert Fick's home run, and then of
course after Detroit, Waugh and Todd Jones I think got
to say, we witnessed something that we rarely see in sports,
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and especially not too often in Detroit, where the Hall
of famers and the favorite fan players, if you will,
ran out to their position one last time.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
A few of them had to be brought out by wheelchairs.
Speaker 10 (18:49):
It was just unbelievable to see Kayline and Horton and
Lolich and McLain and all these guys, and it was
just a tremendous, tremendous event. And Scott, Ernie Harwell was there,
our dear friend uncle Ernie. And what a great job
as master ceremony Ernie did too, And and you know,
like you said, I mean, those those kind of days
are frozen and you'd like to have those, and thank goodness,
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you can still go on and you know, see some
of this on the internet. But it was a great game,
great game at a great event for us.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
If there's ever a time they have a cell phone
with photos, that would have been at So all right, George,
as we whip around, it was your thoughts really quickly,
and I said quickly about the Tigers getting into postseason,
not the way they will hope with that fifteen and
a half game collapse, But you know they're nonetheless, you.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Know, and basically they lucked into it. I mean, let's
face it.
Speaker 10 (19:40):
I mean, Houston could have easily slid ahead of them,
but they couldn't do it. And and the Tigers, of course,
with this tremendous swoon that they experienced.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
And don't forget the last two series.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
I mean they could only win one in Cleveland, then
they could only take one at Fenway Park. If they
just want a couple more games, they would have won
the division. But they The fact of the matter is,
it's like you and all our guests have said, you know,
it's a new season. Now, don't count anybody out. But
I am very very leary. I don't think the Tigers
have the right tools to advance this year. They've got
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a lot of problems, especially headache.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
And of course, well we've talked about Lane. We talked
for the final game. Any thing that stands out about
you about Ray Lane?
Speaker 10 (20:24):
Ray Lane, you know, former sidekick to Ernie Harwell, and
then of course he did television for several teams in Detroit.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
What a great guy.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
I mean ninety five years old, Just a great guy
and he treated everybody so well. As I know you
did experience to Scott. I mean, just a friendly guy,
always kidding around. You know, he did the Red Leagues, Lions,
Tiger's business.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
What more could you say? This man is a he
was a walking encyclopedia of sports.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
So we're going to miss him. But yeah, it's a great,
great tribute to him to happen. Yep, Skip, what are
your talks about all of this Tiger stadium? Ray Lane
and the Tiger's back and.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Yeah, you know, I I know it sounds like y'all
had a great experience in that last game there.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I broke into the big leagues.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Uh, you know, my rookie season, if you can call
it a rookie season, was in nineteen ninety nine. Unfortunately
I didn't get to play in the old Tiger Stadium,
but uh, you know I that was one of the
things I loved the most about the big leagues was
getting to play in every stadium right, And I would
have loved to have gotten to play at least one
game in the Old Tiger Stadium, but unfortunately I didn't
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get to. Because I love just just being able to
remember all the nuances of all the stadiums.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
That's that's something that always sticks with me.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now let's talk about the Tigers back again. And I
don't know if you are much about ray Lane.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
Yeah, you know what, you know, I think they you know,
they did back in as they had a great season
and majority of the season, so they got to feel.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Proud about that.
Speaker 9 (22:04):
The bottom line is get in the playoffs and then
do the work right, like George said, fresh start.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
It's a new season.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
Let's let's just get to work. So just get in
and then then then play the way you can and
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Eric, you don't know much about ray Lane, so don't
worry about that. We'll let Eric go on.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I know Tiger, I know Tiger Stadium, know where you
were where it was one it was at the time,
it was one of the stadiums where where fans were
truly close to the action. They were practically right they
were practically right on top of the players. I know,
they're in the closing ceremonies. They were run on the floor.
Unfortunately got arrested during that. And and you know, I'm sure,
I'm sure while in the press box, Scott's Scott Terror
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was probably brown at the time.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And you seem to mention that a lot, don't you.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Well, you well, you see, and yeah, I mean obviously
obviously Tiger Stadium, you know, it was you know, it
was it was, it was it was something else too,
because it was it was around a very a very
very long time, and you know, obviously home to some
great moments, especially you know, the sixty eight Tigers kind
of helping helping the city of Detruit heel and then
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obviously the obviously the just unbelievable eighty four Tigers team,
which is they just ran away with it from day
one practically, and so yeah, it was a you know,
obviously it was good for you know, it was you know,
obviously everything comes to an end, though, But glad it. Scott,
you were You must have had one heck of a
time covering that game. Covering that game, same with George.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It was incredible to Eric because the two games that
went to that year were Opening Day, the first.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
One I've ever covered.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Out Tiger Stadium in the final game and credit to
Tyler Burns. Eric guy at the time was down with
them in the walking Promers. So hopefully we'll get in
touch with Tyler Burns and talk to them. I have
some things I want to talk to them down the road,
but believe it at that Yeah, it was proud. And
if you want to see my brown hair, can He'll
give you a reason to look for it later. All right, Katy,
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your thoughts about what you just heard with all of this.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Let's let's start with the Tigers. The Tigers were hot
for so long.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
They've obviously fallen off, but not fallen off enough that
they're out of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
So they're in so that now you you wipe that
whole regular season and you start there. What you did
in the regular.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
Season doesn't matter. You got into the playoffs. Now you
got to play ball in the playoffs, so you got
to pitch and you got to hit, and.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You got to do both.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
So we'll see how the Tigers fare. As far as
Tigers Stadium, you know, there are some iconic stadiums that
are no longer stadiums because these stadiums get outdated. But
there were some very special moments in some of those stadiums,
and that's what we re remember and the people that
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were in those stadiums for those moments or what we remember.
That's what the memories we have, and luckily you have
there are some videos of different things from some some stadiums.
Some stadiums you can't go go back that far. But
I totally understand you know, your stadium being what it
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was to you. And as far as ray Lane, I
didn't know him, but let's face it, there are other
broadcasters that we've lost to this year that you know,
other fan bases will appreciate and can appreciate what you
guys are going through in Detroit with Raylane.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
It's okay, all right, Rob, Yeah, Raylane was a great one.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I heard him a couple of times. I had to
to something in Detroit when I worked for the Bergen Record.
There was something for the Detroit Free Press. This was
a long time Ago. I was in Detroit. I heard
him do a Tiger's game, So he was a legend.
I know that he was a legend. As far as
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the Tiger's making it, Hey, they backed in, but they
made it. I'm the last one who could say anything
about anything right now. And and you know, I'm jealous
of you guys. Had such a great closing to Tiger Stadium.
You know what a what a place that stadium was.
You know, the met at least the Tigers did it
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the right way. The Mets in two thousand and eight, Yes,
I know, I was there. I know the Dates in
two thousand had to win that last game against the Marlins,
and guess what happened. They lost, They went, they missed
the postseason, and then they had to close the stadium
after that loss. So we had to sit there and
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watch everything after that bad, bad loss. So I'm a
little jealous of you guys. You got to see your
stadium close with a big win.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, that's surreal. Like George and I both talked about it,
We talked about for years. Yeah, if there's a day
we can freeze the time, that was it. And I've
had a lot of great moments up and down all
the years. But that was one dat I'll never forget.
And you know, my source on Instagram where I get
a lot of these days, that wasn't even on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I knew this off of my head. I knew this
thing was coming up on Monday night. It'll big deil.
My Instagram is great for me, so I'm not knocking
it at all. But this is one that we had
to get.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Out and we did so that said, let's stay with
the tiger theme just a little bit because this is
just too surreal.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Get this Miguel Cabrera, we're going to talk about him.
There was an old binder found from Goodwill. A collector
discovered a card in that goodwill binder? Can you believe
that that you can find Miguel Cabrera and a binder
a Goodwill?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
All right, Rob, what are your thoughts? How surreal is this?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Hey, that's that's a lucky find. Sometimes people find some
some cool things in goodwill. I heard someone found like
one of the original copies of the Declaration of Independence
behind a picture frame, So you never know, but hey,
that's a good find. If I you know, congratulations, If
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you can find something like that and good will.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
See, Katy mean, we need to be going there more
off and we might fat in our pockets up there
a little quicker with that. Go ahead, Katie, what are
your talks about? They'll find about Miguel cabra On.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
One man's chunk can be another man's treasure, and you
just never know what you find, you know. And I
hate to say this, but in today's day and age,
you know, we baseball cards were a thing that you
guys used to trade.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And it used to be really big.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
And I'm not saying that they're not big now, but
it's not as big because people aren't necessarily the same
collectors that they used to be. And let's face it,
there are some people out there that think baseball cards
are junk. And I'm not saying necessarily me, but like specifically, Scott,
I could almost say, like your mom probably would think
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that they weren't that good and there weren't worth keeping.
And so sometimes when people go have to clean up,
like let's say, unfortunately someone passes away, you go clean
their house. Sometimes you just take boxes of stuff. Who
knows what it could have in it. It could have
these gems.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You just never know what you have.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
But again, another man's junk could be another man's treasure.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yes, and Kendy, you don't bring that up, because that's
on the most depressing days.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
My mom went out there and threw away shots, threw
away a bunch of valuable stuff for a book many
years ago. Luckily recovered some of it and ended up
writing that first book anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
That's for sure. I'll go where I got another Mickey thing, glaad.
Kenny won't have an.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Answer to that, but I was gonna say, you're not
the only one.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
There's probably a lot of other moms that did the
exact same thing, cleaning up people's rooms and houses and
people that don't even know. Unfortunately, depending on how old
some people live, if you don't have kids, you don't
have a family, who's going to clean up your house,
who's gonna know what's what? If some poty comes in
and just takes it all, donates it, you never know
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what you're gonna find it, goodwill.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, let me tell you one thing. What this person
ended up getting. It was the equivalent to a lottery ticket.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's all I want. That was a lottery ticket, all right, Eric.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Well, fortunately my parents did not throw away my baseball
cards and they are still at my parents' house, just
in a box, just which'll eventually, which I promised them eventually,
I'm going to go and to go and get that box.
But but I but I digress. I mean, they're a
generation now. When I was a kid, baseball cards were
the thing. I think you could probably make the argument
my generation was probably the last of them to do
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to be uh, to be collecting collecting stuff like that.
But just you know, everything changes with as the generations
move on. I mean, it's just that's just just how
it goes. I mean, collecting, you know, it's different now.
I think I heard somewhere that you can now collect
baseball cards electronically, which cool but not cool, but you know,
and that's that's become a little popular. It's cool, but
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not nearly the same.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Nicky Micky.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Yeah, you know, it's just sad the way the baseball
card has gone.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
You know, I think Pokemon cards are more popular than baseball.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Cards now, which is a shame. But uh, you know,
I remember trading baseball cards when.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
I was a little kid with my buddies and it
was just such an amazing thing, you know, and then
when I first start started getting into the big leagues,
it was right after the baseball card had kind of
started its decline.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
And you know, it used to be such big money
out there.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
You know, the players were getting tons of money because
of baseball cards, and and their shares went down tremendously
once baseball cards kind of became not as popular.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
So you know, it's just a sad thing.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
But uh, you know, I think that that's awesome that
someone could go into goodwill that values a baseball card
and find him Miguel Cabrera card. That that's awesome, you know,
I I you know, I'm sure there's tons of ty
cop cards in those good will somewhere, Scott, if you
want to buy out some.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I was waiting for that ty cup reverence. I knew
it this time becoming a super term, and I wait
for that ty cup reverence.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I love you, Skip.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I knew he was gonna hit me with a TI
cons great stuffing this guy, Thank Tom, who hasn't talked
about this one?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Are you litting next Thight Cord?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yeah, I'm next? Yeah, And I collected him.
Speaker 10 (32:47):
But I did a stupid thing going back many many years,
I had a sidewalk neighborhoods sale, and I went and
put my whole set of cards out.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Yeah, do I have my dunce cap on? I should?
Speaker 10 (33:04):
And you know what, a friend of mine bottom I'm
not going to mention his name on the air. And
no it's not Scott. A friend of mine bought him
from me from right undneath me, like a whole set
of nineteen sixty seven or sixty eight?
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 10 (33:19):
All those stars I had in there, and I sold
looked to him for twenty four dollars?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Was it John Lindler? Was it John Lindler?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
There was a lot of money back then. That was
a lot of money back then, George, I knew it.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Was and I needed money.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
But Eric, I'll tell you what, it's a biggest regret
as far as collecting I ever did. But the fact
of the matter is Scott, like you said, there's a
hit and gem that person found and there's still a
lot of good cards out there. I have a limited collection.
I still have some, but not nearly what I used
to have back in the late sixties.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I won't stand a Miguel Cabrero theme here, Okay, because
on this date in nine. In two thousand and four,
September twenty nine, two thousand and four, he hits a
final home run in Montreal's Olympic Stadium with the Florida Marlins.
We know Eric loves Montreal's Olympic Stadium, don't we, Eric
the concrete dump right with the Florida Marylands. Okay, the
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Florida learns and he thoughts about this, Eric.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I mean, you know, obviously it was around the time
where the uh where I think the Expos were starting
to kind of starting to kind of leave town at
that point to eventually become what they are now. Wh's
just the Washington Nationals. Actually, they're starting to put more
and more documentaries out there because people want to find
out who truly killed the Montreal Expos, which, to be truthfully,
was you you you don't have to look any further
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than the fact that they're all their owners were broke.
But but you know, it's obviously, uh, you know, the
exposed aside from a year here in the eighties, I
think nineteen eighty and then nineteen ninety four, they really
they really weren't that good. They were they were they
were a lot more dysfunctional they were like, they make
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the Marlins look like a sane organization with with what
they went through, and it's just you know, it's but yeah,
the home run out of Olympic Stadium, that's a that's
hard to do because that was a very that's it's
very hard to hit there, especially because you're number one,
it's cold in Canada for for about ten or eleven
months out of the year, and and number two, it's up.
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It's a pretty big ballpark, pretty big, pretty big outfield.
In order to hit it out of there, you know,
you really have to give it a whack. The only guy,
the only guy other guy who did that, I believe
was Darryl Strawberry right off right off of Randy Saint Clair.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Skip what you're though. Did you ever make the Olympics stadium?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (35:44):
I made my Major league debut there. Wow, Vladimiricarero hit
hit one probably that was close.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
To going out of everything.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
So you know, it was it was time for that
stadium to go though, you know, I mean my debut
there and there was like four thousand people there. I
think half the people there were from my hometown, so
you know.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It was time for that.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Uh, you know, to get out of there.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Okay, good stuff, Skip, I love that all this stuff
they come up with them all.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Well, I never had the chance to go there, of course,
but you know, it's interesting that Cabrera did that. I mean, Miguel,
what a fantastic career, and of course, uh that early part,
those formative years with uh with the Marlins and uh
the concrete dump. But yeah, I like that, Eric, that's
a good name for it. But you know that other
one was bad was the Jerry I think it's called
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Jerry Park.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Jerry Park.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Yeah, their first one was just like small, wasn't it?
Vandbox kind of stadium.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
It was basically it was basically Little League park.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
Little League Park.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
Yeah, so you know, they had two really odd and
unfortunately bad stadiums that they, uh.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
They played in.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
But yeah, no, Migul had an unbelievable career. And I
appreciate you sharing that, Scott, because I never I never
knew that bit of trivia there about about Miguel Mickey
hitting the last home.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Run there out of the Olympic Stadium.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Good well, George Mikes pac research apartment tooms up with
all this snuff, that's right.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So you don't have to worry.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I got plenty of other good stuff that hits the
tip of the ice where Jerry Park was only meant
to be a temporary place until it plays on the
permanent And that's when Olympic Stadium came into player because
they were going after the nineteen seventy six Olympics and
as a result of it, Expell Sturf playing there, all right, canny.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
The interesting one of the interesting tidbits of the Olympic
Stadium is for the nineteen seventy six Olympics it had
a capacity of seventy three thousand. For baseball its capacity
was forty nine thousand, seven to fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
For soccer it was sixty.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
One thousand, and for football it was sixty six thousand,
three hundred. So it's one of those stadiums where you
played multiple different venues in it. And so I think
that played a role in the shape of it, right,
And that plays that that plays in the dynamics of
it and you being able to hit a home run
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out out of the park. But if anybody could do it,
Miguel Miguel had. Miguel had power, you know, he had
he had legs behind him that could really get into
his swing and he he he could hit for power,
so kudos to him.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, that was that was a shot. And like Eric said,
Strawberry hit the roof actually, so if there wasn't that
roof material, that ball would still be be going out.
So that was a shot the Expos. You know, the strike.
The strike killed the Xpos. That's plainly simple.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Could agree more Ron period health and we'll talk about
the strike at a later day. So with that said,
let's keep moving on. George mentioned a little bit about
ABC and ESPN going on. Well, guess what, George, I
can't tell you how many I told you so as
I've told you in my lifetime, but I'm going to
reinforce another one of them. Okay, and that's that's NBC
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Universal reportedly made a bit for ESPN Sunday Night Payball,
and recent updates indicated they got it. We'll provide them
updates going forward. But baseball and NBC has a good
ring to it for at least three years. Okay, George,
I'll lead off.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
What do you want this one?
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Well, you know, us, being the old guys, I can
still remember those NBC days.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
My god, they did a great job.
Speaker 10 (39:37):
You know, Kirk County and Tony Kubeck and Jim Simpson
and all those guys.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
You know when it first happened, and that ABC is
in ESPN, Disney, we're going to walk away from baseball.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Wasn't very happy.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
About it, but to be able to hook up with
NBC and Peacock is a brilliant move for Manfred. In
the league, I think that the uh, there's a certain
audience there that's going to be there as long as
the game keeps going on, and that's the people I'd
like to see games are more featured, the game of
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the week, if you will, two games of the week
or that kind of format.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
There's still a good bit of uh, the older audience
that likes to see that.
Speaker 10 (40:22):
But beyond that, NBC, you know they got the NBA rights,
Now they got a baseball would be great fit for
them too.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Obviously Fox has done a nice job.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
I'm not complaining about Fox and FS one, but to
see NBC and the Peacock and that work back at
Major League Baseball brings joy.
Speaker 9 (40:39):
To my heart.
Speaker 10 (40:39):
I forgot about Joe Gerrizioela of course, to all those
years there. They did a great job back in the day,
no question about it. That's that's a good marriage.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
I'd like to see that.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
Yes, score, Yeah, this will be great to see, right.
I can't wait to see you know, new graphics and
all that stuff. That's always exciting. And you know, what's
what awesome about Sunday Night Baseball is, you know, if
you're a team and you're gonna be on you know,
playing on that Sunday and that and that showcase.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
You start hearing about it about three or.
Speaker 9 (41:11):
Four weeks before and people were like, hey, we're gonna
you know, in the clubhouse, people are like, hey, we're
gonna be on Sunday Night Baseball. So it means something
to the players as well, because it's it's just really
cool just to be part of because you're kind of
featured that week, like George said, and it's just a
great experience for the players, the coaches, and the fans.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
So it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
I hope they do something really awesome with it and
really make it where, you know, something new.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
And fresh and and really draw in all those.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Sunday night viewers. Great stuff skipping on only that, let's
think it's reality. Vin Scully's not walking through that door.
But he did a heck of a job with Garat
Jolie on his show.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
So all right, Eric, Well, you know, obviously it's not
the first time NBC has hosted the NBA or Major
League Baseball, because I know, Bob cost This was a
regular voice of up as play by player for a
very long time for Baseball Xtion. And but yeah, I'm
glad they I'm glad they're moving away from ESPN, to
be honest with you, because ESPN's kind of just become
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NBA NFL. That's just that their calling card no longer
is baseball. Baseball at the Night used to be a
regular show. Now it's only really done in segments now
as kind of like one of the lower sections of
the lower sections of ESPN now, which, to be truthful,
I haven't liked the decline of it because they formatted
their shows to essentially give all the attention in the
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world to the NFL and the NBA, which which is awful.
Speaker 6 (42:38):
You know.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
I think after John Miller and Joe Morgan left, they
kind of lost the person that ESPN Sunday Night Baseball
really went downhill, you know, because they could never replace
the match those two guys used to put on every
Sunday night. Actually, I used to sneak downstairs and try
and catch as many inning as I could before before
inevitably I got caught. They they they were up. But yeah,
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I mean, good for ABC to get it back, because
you know, gosh, it's gonna be it's gonna be great.
I think that it'll be even better than what it was.
And you know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure who
the voice is gonna be of those up Sunday night games,
but it's gonna be great having a national television audience again.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Agreed Rob.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Oh, Yeah, I used to love when NBC did the
games on Saturdays and the World Series and everything. I mean,
i'm gonna mention a Mets thing, but nineteen eighty six
World Series with Joe Garagiola and Vince Gully, I mean
that was great. And I have Joe Gargioli is one
of his press passes. Believe it or not, I do,
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which is pretty funny from I guess the early I
think it's from the early thousands. Yeah, like two thousand
and two or something.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah, it's funny how you mentioned Joel gargol Ro because
I ended up meeting him over when he was with
a diamondback.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
So Joe, that's the press past I have.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well, there you go, we have backs.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Rob Rob on NBC that did it in the eighty
six World Series in Game six? Did was it on
NBC where the little ball went up, went up the
first base line under Buckner's glove?
Speaker 6 (44:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Well I was, Yeah, I was at Shane Stadium, so
I didn't hear the call till the next day because
I'm sure that the game, I'm sure that place was
up for grabs.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well, now we'll be talking about Bill Bucker at a
later date, for sure. It could be sooner than later,
but it's a good way to mention it. With all know, Evincebully,
it's synonymous with a lot of big calls and that
surely it was one of them.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
So with that said, we'll turn over to Candy.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
We have more to get to Sainttion break coming up shortly,
and I do have two non sport topics that I
will mention despite what we have, and let me tell
you these will be good ones.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
All right, Candy, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (44:48):
Sometimes things come full circle at Major League Baseball games
first aired on NBC back in nineteen forty seven, forty seven, right,
So it's cool to see them come back. I mean,
let's face it, with the options of all the different streaming,
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all the different places you can go, it's kind of
nice for some people that like the old school regular
t networks that they can have on regular TV to
watch these games and these.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Marquee matchups, because that's what they do on Sunday nights.
Speaker 8 (45:25):
They put in like Game of the Week, the teams
that they think are doing hot, that are hot right
now or have the hot.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Big names, and so kudos to NBC for getting it back.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, I'm glad that it is back on NBC. I
hope that beyond the three years of NBC keeps it
for good. Baseball and NBC definitely are a good combination
for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
With that said, Okay, we're gonna talk about Nolan Ernato
and Nolan Ernando hit the three hundred and fiftyth home money,
made his case for Cooperstown and also head ten gold
gloves to show for it. All right, Rob A Leidolf
with you on this one. My friend Nolan Aeronatto. We
don't know what's gonna happen during the off season. But
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I'm telling you one thing, numbers like that to really
help his clause.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, he's right up there on that line with the
with the Hall of Fame. You're right, the gold gloves,
that's that's great. Listen. He almost went to the Yankees
too last offseason, right, Eric, yep, I don't know if right,
he almost went to the Yankees. So yeah, he I
you know, I think he has he has a chance
of getting in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (46:36):
Candy eight All Star Games, ten Gold Glove, five Silver
Slug Awards, three times nationally home run leader, and two
time National League RBI leader.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Some of those numbers, you know, would suggests that he
could be one of those.
Speaker 8 (46:54):
But again there's these borderline players that we've talked about
that you know, these numbers are good, but are they great?
Speaker 4 (47:02):
And are we putting good or are we putting great.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
In the Hall.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
So you just never know, Eric, I mean, you know,
Nolan Aernado is obviously, you know, the best third baseman
of my generation. You know, given that he could hit
for power and he was he was really he was
really good defensively. You know, there's a he's a he's
not a tent. He was either a finalist for a
goal Glover and obviously he won ten goal gloves, but
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he was but you could definitely count on him being
in the All Star Game every year. I know in
the offseason the Cardinals had a trade in place for
him to go to the Houston Astros, but ultimately Nolan
Aernada wanted to wait out his options and he and
ultimately Houston didn't feel like waiting around. They went. They
went after they went and got ezac Paratus instead, and
so that kind of ended it there. And then the
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Yankees they were rumored to be after him, which I'm
glad they didn't because originally it was they were what
they thought about doing with doing a salary dump for
a salary dump, which they would have traded Marcus Stroman
for I'm Nolan Aeronata, which would have been you know,
both sides would have you know, both sides would have
probably worked out the money in some some sort of fashment.
Ultimately the deal didn't come to fruition. You know, he's
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a Hall of Fairer for sure. Right now, he's kind
of just in the twilight of his career. I know
the Cardinals are trying to get out of that contract
at least try and have somebody else eat some of
it up for them. But right now the challenge there
is Nolan Aeronado's for all tensive purposes is is it
a declining player. So it makes it very hard to
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trade those guys unless you want to, unless you want
you know, unless you want them there just to sell tickets.
So you know, at the moment though, you know, Hall
of Famer for sure, but right now, you know, you know,
he's in my in my opinion, he's currently retired and
he doesn't know it yet.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
That's fun.
Speaker 10 (48:46):
George, Yeah, just following up on what Candy said about
the stats. Interesting when I looked him up just a
little reacquaint myself a little bit with him. But most
of his wars, yeah, they they dried up after like
two oh, I'm sorry, twenty and twenty one, twenty and twenty.
So that's a that's a that's a sure indicator that,
(49:10):
like you said, Eric, you know, he is in the
twilight of his career. So don't get me wrong, he's
just shy of two thousand hits, but it would be
an unbelievable stretch to imagine him getting getting into the
Hall of Fame on three thousand hits. That's not gonna happen,
but they really, I mean, you can't argue with his success.
(49:30):
I mean, he has had these great years, but now
on the tail end of his career, like we see often,
you know, you're paying for for what he accomplished previously.
Good guy Cardinals didn't make the playoffs again. But anyways,
I like I like him. I always liked him as
a ballplayer. Scott I really.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Did skip talks about Olin Ernatto.
Speaker 9 (49:52):
Yeah, you know, I think he's on the cusp. I
think it could go either way. I think he uh,
you know, just getting to watch play during the time
that I'm really paying attention to baseball, coaching and playing
and managing.
Speaker 6 (50:09):
He's one of the best third basements I've ever seen
play live. And I loved his defensive you know, prowess.
Speaker 9 (50:16):
I thought he was just such a smooth third basement,
or is a smooth third baseman. Three hundred and fifty
home runs is an amazing feed, especially with the kind
of defense that he played.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
So you know, i'd i'd be I'm pulling for him
to get in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (50:34):
But like George said, it's it's you know, it might
be a little bit of a stretch, so we'll just see.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Uh, we'll have to see how the how the voters vote.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, so done.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
All right, time for our first nine spot topic of
the night. Everybody's wondering what it was gonna be. Now
we're gonna talk about trans Okay, Skiff, a little different
than what you have to do tonight. I realize you're
driving in the dark, but don't worry about it, Skiff.
I always like to keep it totation topic, and especially when.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
You're on board.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Okay, China has completed the first has completed the world's
widest undercover roadway in just one hundred and ten days
using a giant seventeen metro tunnel meter tunnel excuse me,
which has a boring machine called a shanky a engineer
(51:25):
and built a massive underwater tunnel beneath the Yellow River
in ginn It's fifty five point eight feet wide. We'll
carry gl lanes of traffic and set a new global
record for a shield tunnel construction.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Step. How do you like the underwater roadway? Not bad?
You don't hear about the traffic tap? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 9 (51:49):
I'm sure it's gonna be uh, you know, fun for
the people that get to travel under it. I'm thankful
that I will never have to drive under that tunnel.
I can promise you that is not something that sounds
very exciting to me. So awesome feet, that's really cool.
The boring machine sounds really awesome to me. Maybe Elon
(52:11):
Musk will invent one and do his little underground railroad
that he plans on doing at some point.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Excellent skiff.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
Let me tell you this guy get better.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
I'll love it, He brings on.
Speaker 10 (52:22):
Elon.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Must do they use boring machines? Because are gonna begin
to make your lessons. I mean, I don't know what
these machines are. I have no idea I need to
use some of this technological stuff. But natural, gregrespond, skip,
I'm impressed, and yell what because of After this, I'm
gonna hit one more non fourth topic. Candy's gonna go
to the station break that will finish show with baseball. George,
(52:43):
what are your thoughts about this underwater is under whatever?
The underwater?
Speaker 7 (52:49):
Yeah, the underwater shield funnel unbelievable. I mean, you know,
God bless him.
Speaker 10 (52:57):
I mean, they've got some great ideas, great engineers, in Chinese.
We do of course in the United States as well,
but this one really really is very unique. You know,
I never I never heard of something like this being
constructed in such a wide area too. Like you said,
you know, multiple lanes. Uh, it's just an it's an
(53:18):
incredible feat. But I'm sort of like you, skip, I
don't want to be the first car or the first
walker through that tunnel. Let's see if it's all, you know,
protected and the way it should be. I'm sure it
will be, but it's gonna be it's gonna be a
little eerie for some people to go underneath or go
through it.
Speaker 7 (53:36):
But hats off of the Chinese. Good good work. Good
work there.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
We'll tell you what I drive on it. Then again,
those people that know know I'd drive on anything.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
You put me underwater or water, on a bridge, whatever,
if I'm behind a wheel, be prepared for anything.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
All right, go ahead, Eric.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Well it's interesting too, though, because you know it's just
you know, it's just a it's a feat of it's
an engineering feat. I mean, it's incredible how they were
able to put to put something like that underneath the water.
I think it'd be pretty cool. Go pretty cool. To
go under because you could say you're literally driving under
the water. But yeah, it's just be a nice engineering
feat Katie.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
The thing that gets me is it was completed in
just one hundred and ten days.
Speaker 8 (54:24):
It's massive, fifty five point eight foot diameter, allows for
six lanes of traffic, and it was the construction utilized
the Shane TVM, which advanced at an unprecedented speed of
over fifty nine feet per day. That just sounds like
(54:46):
to me when you think of like a tunnel like
that and you're doing it that quickly, like how well
is it really constructed?
Speaker 4 (54:55):
How well is like I'm not sure I want to
be one of the first ones in there.
Speaker 8 (54:58):
But to give you like another example of a tunnel,
I mean, Scott, isn't there a tunnel? There's a tunnel
that we took between Detroit and Windsor, right, and that's
under water as well too.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
So that kind of reminds me.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
That great point Candy Detroit Windsor tunnel make an ecorn
feel at home. You don't have to comment, Okay, go ahead, No,
I don't want to hear subways in New York.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
So could it be could it be constructed any worse
than some of these subways in New York.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
But I'm not listen. I'm not driving an acting no way.
It was like Candy said, it was constructed too quickly.
I don't care how good the engineers are. That's that's
too fast for me, all right. I saw I've seen
some of these things that come over from China when
people I know order it from Timu or whatever that is,
(55:58):
and the things fall apart and like two days. So
I'd wait a while. I want to see what happens
before I go through that tunnel.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
That's a faircessment, all right. So since we did so
good on this non forth top, we're going to do
one more. Go to the station, break a lot more
baseball to come. Japan faces a housing crisis with over
nine million empty home Why do are they having this
housing crisis?
Speaker 2 (56:19):
That's easy.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
The mid population decline from rural alkaya to urban apartments
as its aging population streams. The birth ryds are plumbmet Well,
I can see why that. I mean, you have nine
million home, then you have a lot of senior citizens
and the birth rate.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Ralph, what's your take on this one?
Speaker 3 (56:42):
So what you're saying there's too many empty places now
in Japan, Well.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
How about nine million of them?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Nine million of them? No wonder why houses are so
cheap in Japan. My step son just got back from Japan.
He was there for about three weeks, and he was
amazed at the prices of houses there. He said, you know,
decent houses two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I
(57:09):
guess that's the reason why so anybody wants to retire there. Hey,
they have some they have some great baseball to watch
there right in personal I.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Don't know about a kaya okay, I know they haven't
in Tokyo, but nine million Emi homes mainly because of
his aging population, which everybody knows that you get a
lot of one hundred year olds in Japan and pays
reality and if and if the birth rates are done,
I could see why he got nine million. All right,
skip the last one you're gonna have to face with tonight,
(57:38):
that we go back to baseball. But these are just
so interesting that it was just too hard to pass up.
We're your thoughts about those empty old nine million plus
senior citizens.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Skip skip picking.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
All right, Well, we'll ceity. We're picking them up here.
I don't know where he's at, traveling, traveling, traveling. All right,
we'll go with you, Candy, and uh goes here.
Speaker 8 (58:11):
Taken on this, I think part of it is is
the younger generation, I think, wants to be in the
in a big city. They don't want some of these
rural areas. They want to be in the big city
where the action is. So I think the bigger cities
are having the population whereas the rural areas are having
(58:32):
fewer and fewer people and demands for the housing out there.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
And so I think that plays a role in it.
Speaker 8 (58:43):
You know, let's face it, there are a lot of
aging people in the community and they can't live in
homes like that.
Speaker 4 (58:54):
They you know, So I think that's part of it.
You find more and more.
Speaker 8 (59:00):
People needing, you know, the elderly population needing to be
in you know, whether it be retirement homes or whatnot.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
I ain't that has to do with it too.
Speaker 8 (59:13):
Having vacant homes is not a good not a good
look though, either. So they're gonna have to figure out
what they can do for that.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
All right, skeyptically, have your back.
Speaker 6 (59:25):
Yeah, I'm back. I think I was going through an
underwater tunnel here.
Speaker 9 (59:28):
I guess people are on the internet that tunnel in China.
So don't be doing your podcasts over there in China.
You're in the province or whatever that is. You know what, Scott,
I think this, Uh, this is gonna happen everywhere because
young people can't afford to have kids. So the population
(59:52):
is not growing the way it used to because the
cost of living is so high. You know, when my
parents were raising us, you could afford a house and
three kids. You can't do that anymore. It costs too much.
I saw a stat the other day. It costs two
and a half million dollars now to have a kid
(01:00:14):
in your household throughout its lifetime. And you just so
these younger generations, they're not making enough money to say,
you know what, I can raise a kid comfortably.
Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
So the population's going down, you know. I and uh,
you know, it's just not growing at the rate it was.
Speaker 9 (01:00:31):
So all these houses are gonna sit there empty, and
it's gonna happen here in the United States until we
get things under control.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Great great points skip all right, George.
Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Yeah, I agree with your skiff.
Speaker 10 (01:00:44):
I mean, now we're seeing this around the world, the
birth rates going down, and obviously it really stands out
with this kind of statistic statistic in Japan, I think
basically is you're gonna have the whole world order it
could be different than what we're used to. Okay, because
(01:01:04):
not only with the birth rates effect of the housing,
like you said in Japan, Scott, there's down so many available,
but then you're.
Speaker 7 (01:01:12):
Talking about the jobs, who's going to do the jobs?
Speaker 10 (01:01:15):
And we're talking about real estate, you're talking about office space,
glood of that.
Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
You know, it's just a snowball effect.
Speaker 10 (01:01:22):
So it is a little unsettling to me to hear
that kind of stat coming from Japan.
Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
And I'm sure those numbers are going to be high
for North America as well. So it's it really is.
Speaker 10 (01:01:33):
Uh, it really is an eye opener for those of
us that are of the baby boomer era, which I
am and you are too, Scott.
Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
Yeah, Well, it's it's it's it's become a worldwide problem
clearly because uh, you know, with inflation and all that
in recent years, you know, it's it's becoming harder and
harder and harder to buy a house. It's I mean,
you know, I can attest it too. With the younger
generation myself included whine to live in the city because
(01:02:04):
let me, let me tell you, I'd rather be able
to go to like say, a ball game that's fifteen
minutes from my house and get home at a pretty
decent hour, like nine ten o'clock at night, which is
pretty good for pretty good for the work week, you know,
and then uh, then then I'd rather get home at
like no o'clock in the morning. Say I'm driving in traffic,
or or if I'm in Chicago, I'm taking the train,
(01:02:25):
which takes even longer. But you know this as far
as as far as like that, as far as the
housing goes it, it's become an expensive, man, it is.
I mean, jobs are not keeping up with inflation. It's
been I mean I could get I could go out
a whole rant about that, to to where it probably
be more epic than epic than what than the one
I went on on Saturday. It's it's you know, it's
(01:02:49):
a it's a it's a problem that that needs to
be fixed. I mean, you know, the reason why the
reason why the birthrate is so low is because what
money to take care of the kids? Do we really
want to set the kid up for failure, and do
we really want to look bad to society if we
cannot provide that kid with a chance to be successful.
(01:03:09):
I mean, that's what it boils down to. So if
they want more people on this earth, you better figure
out a way to make things a little more affordable. Otherwise,
you know you're going to have a whole lot of
whole lot of elderly people here.
Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
The one thing I like about with this group has
done on this topic, and I'm glad for everyone you
is that you able to relate it to what things
are going on in this day and age.
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
That's what I was looking for and that's what I
was able to get.
Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Not Leo for the station break, Glad Candy when we
come back, will be talking more baseball, and I have
a no hitter to talk about as well, So when
we come back, we'll continue the baseball aspect of the shelf.
We're glad to get those other two.
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Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
I think very month. All right, on to baseball, we'll
talk about a trade deadline. All it didn't work out
for Houston Astros as they were eliminated on the final
game day of the year or two.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
But we'll talk about this trade.
Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Anyways, Houston Astros received Raymond Furious and the Baltimore let's
go back to youth. Yeah, Houston received Raymond your eas
Bulte Oriols ended up getting right handed pitcher Flane Palmer
of Signal A And he thought Eric about this particular trade,
(01:05:52):
minor trade, but nevertheless it occurred at the deadline.
Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Well, you know, Houston was kind of in a win
now mode in Baltimore, if you know, Baltimore wasn't having
wasn't having a great year. Really, the whole you know,
the whole trade deadline for Houston really didn't work out.
But Arius was a good kind of utility ish player
for the for the Orioles the past couple of years.
And so I mean he wasn't he wasn't like he
(01:06:17):
was he was. He was somewhat effective and you know,
for a utility player, but ultimately he didn't have the
same impact that he had in Baltimore that Houston was
hoping for work because all he had was three home
runs and ten RBI while he had eight home runs
and thirty four RBI in Baltimore. Ultimately, it didn't work
out for Houston, which, to be truthful, I'm not I'm
(01:06:37):
not feeling too bad about it, but it's you know,
I'm glad that you know, it's just unfortunately, you know,
you roll the dice in these trade deadline They look
great on paper, but you don't know what's gonna happen
unless unless you put them out on the field. Because
switching uniforms is a big change. It's not as easy
as people think, because you know, you're switching environments, you're
(01:06:58):
switching clubhouses. The clubhouse kind of has their own kind
of groups of people who are who have become like
tight with each other as the year has gone on,
because you know, you kind of get those relationships going
kind of spring training and by that point they've been
together like three or four months at that point, so
it's kind of harder to kind of fit yourself fit
yourself in there. But you know, again, you switch uniforms,
(01:07:19):
sometimes it always doesn't work out. I know, I know
the New York Mets have had quite a few of
those over the years, and it's it's a it's unfortunately
for unfortunate for Houston. But am I sad that they
made the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Absolutely not yep, minor trade, but nonetheless the one made
it the deadline.
Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:07:37):
Yeah, you know, you at the deadline, you're trying, you're
talking to all the teams, trying to improve your team
the best you can, and sometimes you're you know, those
talks kind of go into you know, maybe some trades
that aren't as impactful but maybe would help you out
in the future.
Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
You know.
Speaker 9 (01:07:54):
Obviously this was just a minor trade, and they were
probably just looking for somebody to rest some of their
guys on occasion because rest is such a big thing,
and and get somebody that can step in and kind
of hold their own and to rest some of their
players to get the most productivity out of them.
Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
And then that kind of what this trade seems like
to me.
Speaker 7 (01:08:17):
George, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 10 (01:08:21):
Yeah. You ideally, you're like, you know, you're giving something
up that you're getting something or turned kind of thing
for both teams, and obviously Baltimore they've really struggled lately.
I was expecting better things out of him. I got
to be honest with you, Ramon, I thought that you know,
he he's he's either had injuries or he's been patuned.
(01:08:42):
He hasn't played more than more than one hundred and
eighteen games in any single year.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
He started his career in twenty twenty. But the thing
is is that there's still a future for him. I
mean he's still young.
Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
But the obviously both teams that missed the playoffs, so
neither one of the teams really could benefit totally. At
thirty one years old, I think, Ramon, your eye still
has a future. Not quite sure if it'll be obviously
as great as he had hoped it would be, but
there's still time.
Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
He's a lifetime two fifty seven here to hit her,
which has been of.
Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
The pack Katy.
Speaker 8 (01:09:20):
The trade for the Houston Astros filled a void at
third base as the Astros Isaac Parates was sidelined with
a hamstring injury, so that's why they went out and
got him.
Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
He was a utility player. He was a twenty twenty
two Gold Glove winner. He added versatility and a veteran
infield presence to the Houston roster. Was it a win win?
Speaker 8 (01:09:45):
You know that'll still remain to be seen. Sometimes you
don't know these things, especially right away. But you're at
the trade deadline, if you're still in it, you're trying
to do whatever you can to take yourself over the
home Obviously it wasn't enough to take them over the
hump for this year, but who knows about next year?
Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Rob, Yeah, he filled the void. He hit what I
think Garrett, like Eric said, he hit three home runs.
I mean, not a big impact. And Houston did not
make the postseason this year. And like Eric, I'm not
too sad about.
Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
That either, bigger than you would a great stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
I like to get these trade deadlines in that Fay
don't comment when they happen. I like to take away
and see approach the course of time until you openly
hits for the postseason.
Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Well, I'm going to talk about something from.
Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
My alma mater, University of South Florida, that being the
three USF pitchers are picked in a twenty twenty five
MLB draft. Additionally, two USF commits were drafted out of
high school and we'll sign with MLB. We're talking about
Corey Brown, Austin Newton, Bryce Archie were the first three
mL picks of Milton Hannah era. USF program has produced
(01:11:03):
one hundred and thirty four picks ball told I can
tell you right now Robin Roberts and Eddie Cardieri. Hopefully
I'll get Eddie Courriery on one of these shows. But
what are your thoughts about the way USF is producing players.
Speaker 6 (01:11:16):
Skipt Yeah, I mean that's that's awesome feed for them.
Speaker 9 (01:11:20):
They have a great baseball program, you know, and just
to get that, uh, you know, anytime you're you're a
college athletic program, you want to sign the best players
you can.
Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
But that's very difficult.
Speaker 9 (01:11:33):
So they must be really doing a great job at
recruiting to be, you know, getting their players that they
signed stolen away by you know, the Major League Baseball
draft and then also producing players that are going to
go off and get drafted.
Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
So that that's, uh, that sounds like.
Speaker 9 (01:11:52):
A you know, just a great pitch for the recruiters
moving forward to continue to sign really good players.
Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Have a great program, Eric, I mean, it's great for
the it's great for the school obviously. You know, these
days with college sports, it's never been harder to recruit,
to recruit kids to come play for you, because you know,
with all the with all this transfer portal stuff and
n I L and all that other stuff, it's never
been harder. Back back in the day when I was
(01:12:22):
in school, was about you bet you were begging for
the scholarship. Now you're begging for money. But it's you know,
good for you, good for them to manage to keep
their kids and be able to bring that talent into
the school, especially given the fact that you know, the
transfer portals is already there. Because the first the one,
the first, the first, the first minute they're hitting four
hundred or something like that, I can guarantee you they're
gonna be getting calls for bigger schools to come and
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play for them. But good for USF for getting those
kinds of kids who are committed to the program. And
you know what, the clear it's clear working out for
them because they're able to get drafted to potentially play
play Major League Baseball.
Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
Well yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
I mean that's a great program. And to have all
those all those players drafted by Major League Baseball, like
Eric said, it is harder to recruit these kids now
because you're right. They they don't want the scholarships they want,
they want the money. They want to get paid now.
So you know, kudos, definitely, it's a good thing, Candy.
Speaker 8 (01:13:23):
So the selections mark the milestone total number of players
drafted from USF to one hundred and thirty four. The
other thing that also happened is additionally, two USF commits
were drafted directly out of high school and are expected
to forego their college careers.
Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
What does that mean.
Speaker 8 (01:13:43):
It means that USF is attracting top talent and can
find it and attract them to their school. Now, will
they ultimately play for USF those two probably not, But
that says a lot about your program. If you can
draft and get in and have high school players that
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don't even end up going to your school, that means
you're recognizing the talent that's out there, and the major
league teams are recognizing you for your recognition of the talent.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Well, also, go ahead, Rob, while you're a commentary, I
still here's what I'm going to say. Way Boggs Tampa
product out there, Darryl Strawberry doctor and Tampa area is
loaned for a lot of their faces.
Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
Great Martino Martinez had.
Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Him too, all right with the list goes on and on,
but you get to drill all right. Time to talk
about the no hitter, because I got some good ones here.
One of them We're going to go back to June
twenty third, nineteen seventeen. People ready for this? Get ready?
Bay Ruth lunches an umpire. Then his replacement, Ernie Shore,
(01:14:52):
throws a perfect game. They been way park on the
mound for the Red Sox, and actually the way what
happened was Ruth started by throwing four balls two of
what you start wars strikes Scott the no hitter that
wasn't okay for Babe Ruth. And I actually let off
(01:15:12):
with a promo on my social media about referring to
the I murnered Armando Galarraga with this in mind, So I'll.
Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
All right skip.
Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
What are your thoughts about Babe Ruth lasting pitches and
Ernie Short getting everything?
Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
I love it.
Speaker 9 (01:15:31):
You know, I think that probably the most entertaining part
about that game was not the pitching after Babe Ruth,
but the big swing that Babe Ruth took that might
have been his best swing of his career, you.
Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
Know, to get to punch it umpire in the face.
Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Good.
Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Uh, Kelly, you are getting great man. I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
That's a good comeback. All right, we'll rob you're a
laugh and go ahead. And whytn't you pick this one.
Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Up with Kicky. That must have been some sight to
see the Sultan of swing take a swing and hit
an umpire right in the face.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
That was good, hike, Gordon.
Speaker 7 (01:16:13):
Well, the men in blue really got the black and
Blue on that one.
Speaker 10 (01:16:17):
It sounds like, you know, well, hey, I gotta have
one joke anight, right, pretty good, and I know it
was just accidental, but I didn't.
Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
Give my two cents on your Bulls And that's okay, Scott.
Speaker 10 (01:16:34):
All I was going to add to that discussion was
the you know, the congrats to us after obviously thirty
one and twenty five this season. They want two games
in the postseason and the conference tournament and kudos, as
my friend Candy uses, I love that saying, by the way,
kudos to U s F and the Bulls baseball team.
(01:16:57):
But getting back to this one, yeah, yeah, that's that
much more to add than that. That corny jokobne No,
actually was good, and I'm glad you've got your since
on yours up.
Speaker 7 (01:17:08):
That's okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Anytime you have memoryses like I'm having them every now
and all that, I'm sorry brother, for anybody that has Alzheimer's, Okay,
it sucks that I have. Who Also, if I've forgotten
on this one.
Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
Eric, well, I mean Babers wasn't exactly exactly a role
model during his career.
Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
But.
Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
Because because baby, it wasn't the it wouldn't be the
last time Babers was running around attacking people. It's uh,
you know, it's it's incredible because you know, who knows
what would have happened had Babers actually actually started that game.
You know, maybe the perfect game happens, maybe it doesn't,
but you know, it's still incredible. How is you know
as the placement comes in there and makes history.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Anybody else haven't voken on this, I haven't go ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Ruth was ejected and fined one hundred dollars and suspended
ten games.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Wow, that.
Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Was a lot back, like one hundred dollars.
Speaker 8 (01:18:04):
I think about that like now, one hundred bucks is
a slap, and then I mean nothing to these guys.
Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
But back then, one.
Speaker 8 (01:18:10):
Hundred dollars was a lot and ten games like that's
that's a pretty sizable, uh, pretty sizable penalty there. But
I mean he was warned, He argued with them over
balls and strikes, was warned by the umpire, and then
threatened to punch him before following through.
Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
With a swing. That's shut the umpire behind the ear.
Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Well, you know what, Kennedy, that's a good that's a
pretty good piece of research. Great stuff, Yeah, Scott, Scott,
I got.
Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
An interesting I got an interesting thing to say about this. Then,
Babe Ruth, what was he with the first million dollar player?
Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
He was making more than I was making, manage the Mets,
And every time I got kicked out, I got fined
fifteen hundred dollars. So I would have loved to have
got fine a hundred bucks. You know this doesn't add up.
You know, eighty years later, I don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
Inflation, skip inflation, inflation.
Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
My salary wasn't inflated like his, there is mine.
Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I love that. Oh, anytime you can incorporate a nugget
like that, go ahead and do it. I love it.
Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Great stuff, Oh, all right, we give give the Bam
credit though he was at least a man of his word,
threatening the umpire to punch him, and he did.
Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
All right, So let's go ahead and talk about the
Toronto Blue Jays, shall we. They actually moved Jose Burial
to the bullpen and get this, okay, packs and uh
Schultzer is recalled from Triple A. Now he's on IL
through the early elbow inflammation. Let's talk about these series
(01:19:53):
of transaction, skip about Jose Burials and then we'll talk
about the pats and shoulders.
Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9 (01:20:03):
I think, uh, I think a lot of time and
a lot of meetings probably went into this for the
Toronto Blue Jays. You know, they're obviously going to do
the best they can to to win a World Series.
And I know Jose Barrios is pitched in relief in
the playoffs before, if I'm not mistaken, so maybe he can,
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you know, add a little bit to their bullpen. I
love his stuff, if always liked his stuff. I got
to see him as a rookie there in Minnesota, was like, wow,
this this guy can really pitch.
Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
And and maybe it'll bolster their bullpen a little bit.
Speaker 9 (01:20:38):
And uh, you know, I'm sure they're making the right
move there then doing what's best for the team.
Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Eric. I mean, you know, obviously it's a tough you know,
Toronto's already going into the postseason pretty short handed with pitching.
Though they're better. They're gonna have to pray though, that
their their bats are alive and well though, because also
their bullpen is pretty shaky, particularly at the closing position
with uh with Jeff Hoffman. But Barrios's experience, he's been,
He's done multitude of things in this league. He's been,
(01:21:05):
He's pitched in the postseason before.
Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
I know that.
Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
I know that he's He's pitched for Toronto during their
postseason as well, so this is nothing new to him.
I mean, eventually, once you're in the legal while, you
kind of just you just get used to doing to
doing what you got, what you gotta do. I mean,
it's it's it's becoming more and more common to see
starting pitchers kind of become long men in the postseason,
given the fact that you know, obviously their teams aren't
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gonna be able to carry all their starting pitchers and
have them start games in a short series, so they're
going to remove the kind of their their liabilities in
the bullpen and kind of use the start their mid
their mid to back end starters in the bullpen because
you know, they they can they could go out there
and eat innings and say and save some relievers for
when it for when it really matters. So, but you know,
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Toronto's Toronto's the trouble pitcher wise though, And I know that.
I know obviously you know there's I'm sure Skip can
probably test this. There's a lot of conversation happening when
and when it comes to making a move between the
front office, coaching staff and managers, and everybody wants to
get their two cents in there. And so you know,
it's obviously Toronto's trying to piece together a pitching staff.
(01:22:10):
But man, when you go into the postseason where they
piece together pitching staff, you are in trouble. And it's
just I just don't see it working out well for
Toronto because you know, it's not something that they've been
used to all year. And the one thing you want
is you kind of want people to know their roles
at this point in the year if you're adjusting them
to a new role. Though it doesn't always work out
(01:22:32):
I'm not saying it well for Toronto, but it generally
doesn't because I've seen this movie many times over with
teams who are kind of having to piece things together.
Speaker 9 (01:22:43):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Yeah, sometimes, like Eric said, they have to piece things together.
Things are you know, it's so much The postseason is
so different because of all these added games. It's like
you used to look forward to the to the playoffs
and the pitching matchups right where the starters are gonna
last throughout the game, and now they have to worry
(01:23:07):
about starters who can't go more than four or five innings,
and they gotta piece things together. And they're even they
even have piggybacking in the in the playoffs. So things
are so so different than what we're used.
Speaker 8 (01:23:21):
To Candy, you know, like Rob was just saying, once
you get to the playoffs, you do whatever you can
to get through the playoffs and onto the next round.
So you're gonna put your best man forward. I remember, no,
this is gonna date, but I remember people putting relievers
(01:23:44):
in back to back games. You do whatever you need
to to get onto that next series. So it does
it surprise me?
Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
None?
Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
None of it surprises me, because like I said, if
you don't win the series, you're out. So you're gonna
to do whatever you can to win that series.
Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Anybody haven't hold on yet? George, Okay, ahead, George, go ahead, George.
Speaker 7 (01:24:10):
I have my two senses. Burials is not as effective
as he used to be.
Speaker 10 (01:24:15):
He wasn't the greatest of pitchers in years gone by,
but he was in double digit wins most of the
time for the Minnesota Twins. In the Toronto Blue Jays,
this has been an off year, as we talked about,
as everybody talked about. I mean, the kid is nine
and five with a four to seventeen era. But in
the playoffs, you do have these situationals pitching changes. As
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we know Skip knows all too well. You know, guys
have to be ready bullpen starters. It's a limited opportunity,
especially these early couple of rounds.
Speaker 7 (01:24:52):
Man best out of three and best out of five.
Toronto doesn't have a best out of three. We know
that they got to buy.
Speaker 10 (01:24:58):
But the fact of the matter is is this guy
does have experience pitching. There are situations where putting him
in that game, that playoff game, could prove advantageous.
Speaker 7 (01:25:09):
We just don't know yet.
Speaker 10 (01:25:10):
But give him a chance, give him a chance. Is
he as good as he was years ago? Heck no,
But hey, they made the postseason, the Jays. They're gonna
give him a good luck.
Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
See what he can do.
Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
I'll say about it as the more pitching, Jeff, you
have the better y'all off the arf you show up,
have both pen more powers, almost the other plays out.
Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
All right, Well, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
We're gonna go back to Nolan Ryan and he throw
Suzuki's stats of the week. Nolan Ryan's record of seven
no hitter gives him three more than the next the
closest pitchers Sandy Kolfax, who had four back to no hitters.
Skip Nolan Ryan. What are your talks about Nolan Ryan?
Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
Yeah, yeah, seven no hitters is just unheard of.
Speaker 9 (01:26:00):
And then if you dig a little bit deeper and
you talk about the one hitters and the two hitters,
he leads in all those categories to what what just
a just a beast on the mound and and formidable
just you know, picture out there just not allowing many
hits and striking out the world.
Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
So but what a great uh pitcher during that era.
And you know, to be able to be.
Speaker 9 (01:26:26):
To get to watch him throughout his career was a
special thing for me because he was my He was
my baseball hero.
Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Yeah, he's a lot of people payball hero. I'm glad
he got a lot of bulls there, Rob.
Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Do you know what this des Nolan Ryan? Uh? Things
do to me?
Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
What?
Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
They drive me crazy? Okay, because I.
Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Cook and I'll keep bringing them on every week to
drive you crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Remember, I have to, you know, relive this trade for
Jim Fregosi.
Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Oh and over.
Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Could you imagine what the New York Mets pitching staffs
would have been like if they just waited until he
developed and got control? Oh boy, what what could have been?
Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
I have a lot more what could have been in
the next several weeks. But this is the latest one
could have been up here lift all right?
Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Well, go ahead, Eric, Well.
Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
I was gonna I was gonna say, though, the Mets
are a living definition of what could have been. I mean,
I mean, it's uh, you know, obviously, I mean no, right,
that's the greatest picture of all time. I mean, George
Bush had a poster of him in the Oval office
that was over his head. I'm sure he sat in
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the sat in the Oval office each day hoping that
he would come in, which I'm sure George would would
have gladly had him in. And but yeah, Noel Riot
is just you know, unbelievable seven no hitters. You're you're
not gonna no one's imagined that.
Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
It's especially pictures these days when they they after one
hundred ninety ish ninety or one hundred or so pitches,
they're there and you know if they're taking him out
of the ball game, So that's not getting equal. I mean,
no one. Ryan's just you know, he's probably as close
to Cy Young as we'll actually get, even though, which
is crazy to think how he never won the award,
even though the guy just was just an unbelievable hurler.
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But you know, he's probably he's probably as close to
that type of picture of that time. You know, everybody
considers cy Young the one of the early greats. There's
a reason the award is named after him. You know,
he's probably as close to that guy as you're getting.
Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Who's next? Raise hands?
Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
Okay, Nolan, Ryan pitched for so one thing.
Speaker 8 (01:28:42):
One thing you're gonna you're gonna say is no one's
ever gonna have seven no hitters. Again, no one's ever
gonna pitch for twenty seven years career.
Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
There's no one that's gonna have that kind of a career.
Speaker 8 (01:28:56):
Ironically, he never pitched a perfect game, nor did he
ever win a cy Young Award, and both are attributed
because he also walked a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
So yes, he was a good picture had a lot
of strikeouts, but he also did walk some people.
Speaker 10 (01:29:14):
Good George, Yeah, Nolan Ryan is just fantastic. Those numbers
are incredible, you know, to think at his age, comedy
no hitters he threw, like you said, Scott, just incredible.
I mean like Randy Johnson and even our friend you mentioned,
Sandy Kofex. I mean, nobody can come close to him
in those total no hit categories. And it was just
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an unbelievable career for him. And it is odd that
he never won the Cy Young. I agree with you
on that one. But uh, Nolan express off and running boy,
what a great career, great pitcher, tough as nails.
Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Well more to come on, Nolan Ryan, and now we'll
talk about each Roszoki and going one with the other.
Etro collected seven plus twenty game hitting streets during his career,
including a career high put these seven game hitting streak
two thousand and nine scip.
Speaker 6 (01:30:09):
You know, with with each row. You know, that's not surprising.
Speaker 9 (01:30:15):
He had so many hits throughout his career, all of
the two hundred plus hit years in a row.
Speaker 6 (01:30:22):
Just just an amazing hitter. His ability to put.
Speaker 9 (01:30:26):
The bat on the ball was next to none really
throughout his career. So twenty game hidden streak for him
was was very common. And what another great feat by
another wonderful player that we all got to see in
our era. You know, we talk about all these feats
about a lot of these players, and most of them
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we got to see. So I'm I'm gonna say that
we lived in the best baseball era ever.
Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
Uh and and I don't think there'll be another era
like it.
Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
I mean, he chio, I mean, that's that's the best.
You could probably argue the best all round player of
my generation too, you know, I mean we you know,
if the guy could do literally anything on the baseball field.
He could hit. I mean he could he could hit
a home run every now and then, which but you
know he probably could have, but he just chose not to.
At least in his at least in his words. But
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you know, he's you know, he's just you know, each
year is unbelievable. He's a Hall of Famer. There's a
reason for it should have been a unanimous, unanimous Hall Famer.
But you know, but again he is, you know, he
is probably the best all round player of my generation.
And in the Mickey's point, though, you know that generation
of baseball, I don't think we're getting ever again. I mean,
there was just too much talent during that time. I
don't think we're ever going to have anything that equals
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that because every every team in baseball at that point
in time had a star. It was it was star
lane the league. You could go, you could run around
to every team, including the worst teams of the worst teams,
and they would everly, they wouldn't everably have a star.
Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
George.
Speaker 10 (01:32:02):
Yeah, each row is fantastic. And as you mentioned and
we have mentioned in previous shows, you know, some knucklehead
kept him from getting one hundred percent. He ended up
with ninety nine point seven percent of the voting in
his first year. But this guy, when you look at it,
like we talked about before, you know, he was in
that Nippon Professional League in Japan before he came to
(01:32:25):
minch League Baseball four thousand and three and our sixty
seven total hits. I'm this guy was just so impactful
in both Japan, their league, and of course MLB.
Speaker 7 (01:32:37):
And you know, his consistency is just over the top.
What a great guy, What a great attraction.
Speaker 10 (01:32:45):
For fans in America, the Asian Americans if you will,
who just love to come out to Yankee Stadium and
co America Park or wherever they filled up to see
this guy because he definitely was one of a kind.
Speaker 7 (01:33:00):
Eat your roll.
Speaker 10 (01:33:01):
It just boggles my mind how much this man did
and contributed to baseball Candy.
Speaker 8 (01:33:09):
He is largely considered one of the greatest contact hitters
and leadoff hitters as well as well as a defensive
outfielder in baseball history. You know, he played with Seattle
Yankees Marlins. Yes, he played over in Japan as well.
(01:33:32):
Just you know, if you're gonna have an all time
baseball team, he's gonna be on your list, and you're
gonna put him as your leadoff hitter because that's how
many hits he wants, and that's where you want to
put him because that's how you want to start your games.
Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
So great hitter.
Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
Yeah, well what else could I say? He Listen, you
have a great career in Japan, then he comes over
here and he has an even better care It's it's
just he's just amazing. And like everyone else said, and
I always said, one vote, really, come on, ridiculous it is.
Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Well, that's why I have eatrou On every week that
we can provide you with a new nugget. All Right,
we got to make Rob Field somewhat at.
Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Home with the show.
Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
So we're gonna do that by bringing in our met
stuff and then we're gonna end the show with the
eighties on a flurry. Well, let's let here we go,
make it get ready. One of the smartest things I
think that Pete Alonso did was he because he actually
went out there and declined an invite to the home
run Derbiley this year.
Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
We know that his stats are pretty good. We'll get
in more of that next year.
Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
So we're your thoughts about Rob that Pete Alonzo declining
that invites HM on Derby.
Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
I I love that. I talked to Chris on the
show before the All Star Game and I said, I
hope Alonso declines that because it really did something to
his swing the past couple of times he was in it.
So I was very happy that he declined it. He
won it twice, that was you know, that's enough. We
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needed him to keep his swing the way he was
going because he had the great you know, this season,
and I don't blame him for opting out. And I
don't even blame him for saying it yesterday after the game.
We knew he's gonna opt out, So I'm glad that
he declined, can't he?
Speaker 7 (01:35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:35:27):
I mean, you know, it comes a point in your
life where you might have done that, done this, done that,
and you want to give other guys a shot, you know,
to be in the home run hitting contest, and there
is something to be said about a little bit of
rest and not trying to strive and have it. Let's
face it, you're going, You're you're hitting how many times
(01:35:50):
during that home run hitting contest?
Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
So good up to him, George.
Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
Yeah, I think I echoed those comments. You know several times.
A lot of the big sluggers have just backed off.
Speaker 10 (01:36:06):
And I think after a certain time, either in your
career or in your situation where you said, like Candy said,
you know you need that time off. And the fact
the matter is is, yeah, there's a prize associated with that,
there's extra money for you. A lot of these guys
don't need extra money, and they certainly don't want to
hurt their chances, their team's chances in.
Speaker 7 (01:36:27):
The second half of the season.
Speaker 10 (01:36:29):
I think that the Home Run Derby is still fun,
but it's not as fun as it used to be
because a lot of the big names are staying out
And I can't blame I can't blame him at all.
Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
Yeah, yeah, you know, this is something that I had
to deal with with the media.
Speaker 9 (01:36:49):
It was such a big deal as rookie season does
he participate in the Home Run Derby. And I was
actually on the Mike francessa show while right before, right
before the Home Run Derby, and Pete had opted in,
and it was such a big thing in the New
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York media at the time, and I was all for
it at that time. And you know what, Pete went
out there and won it. And I think he tripled
his salary for the year because he won twice as
much in the Home Run Derby that he was making
his rookie season but let's make no mistake about it.
Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
I love Pete Alonso so very much. I respect him
so much.
Speaker 9 (01:37:34):
The reason he did not participate this year is because
we all know what's at stake for Pete Alonzo going
into this offseason.
Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
He wanted to focus on his numbers in the season.
Speaker 9 (01:37:47):
He could care less. He had won a couple of
home run Derbys. He's been there, done that. His focus
is on what's going to happen this offseason with his contract.
Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Makes sense to Eric.
Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
I mean, it wasn't surprised that he that he, you know,
declined to do it. I thought, you know, I thought,
you know, with the contract coming up and stuff, he
wants to be at his best. Obviously he had a
a fantastic year. Is probably the I I've given Pete Alonso.
Waited a lot of crap over the years, and and
it's but you know, this year, he kind of he
kind of proved me wrong because I thought he was
(01:38:20):
a I thought he was a player going going downhill.
But again, you know, it's good when you're it's good
for players to participate in those kinds of events when
they're not making a whole lot of money, because you know,
it's they're able to kind of you know, they're they're
able to make some more because you know, by when
Pete Alonzo first did it, you know you're you're not
making any the first two times he did it, you're
not making any money yet. And but you know you
(01:38:42):
went two of them eventually it's just okay, you know,
same old thing over and over again. But you know,
I uh, and I'll disagree with rob. I did have
a problem with Pete Alonso announcing he was opting out
as his contract. I had a problem with the timing
of it because the Mets just lost in devastating fashion.
There's no bones back. And and you know what Peter
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Alzzo did with the equivalent of you walking home after
a bad day at work and a car and it's raining,
and a car goes past you and and and puts
a bunch and goes into a puddle and the water
splashes on you, making your day worse. That is the
equivalent of that. I had a problem with Wan Soda
was messing around right after the World Series. And but
(01:39:24):
you know, again, you know Peter pedal Lins obviously he's
you know, it wasn't no surprising op there. I just
had a problem with the timing of when he did.
Because I mean, as much as I like to kick
around the Mets, every kick around the Mets all the time,
I don't want them to have I don't need them
to have a car splash, splash splash a puddle on
them more than they already have. They already had, they
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already got gut rents and they and then they got kicked.
That's just a that just makes that's just a bad
day all around.
Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
All Right, Well, we're gonna do the rest of the show.
We're going rapid fire. I repeat, rapid fire. We're gonna
get through everything. We'll say on the mess saying The
New York Man's at one point for Owen sixty two
in games that they trailed after the gay sating, I
guess what that number has been updated to.
Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Owens sixty seven is the final number? Bad?
Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Look, Rob Bad. I don't even know how to answer
this question, because all year it's so frustrating as a
Met fan that they have they did not come back
and win a game that they were behind in the
eighth inning. Think about that?
Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
When has that?
Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
When has that ever happened? It was it was horrible
I don't know. It was just horrible compared to last
year when they were where they had that magic right
and they kept winning games in the ninth inning or
extra innings. Horrible. There's no I can't even answer that
question because it's it's still hard for me to believe.
Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
It's hard for me to believe. That's why I put
it on the show. I never seen anything like this
until this tame pulled up.
Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Candy.
Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
You know, it is hard to believe.
Speaker 8 (01:41:00):
But at the same time, you pay, you pay both
teams to play and to try and stop the other team.
So it just means that, a, you didn't have good
luck going past the eighth inning. But the other stretch
of it, the other thought of it is is the
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teams you played maybe knew that and could play on,
you know, in their minds and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
And I think it gets to a team and sometimes
it becomes a mental thing, and once it's mentally.
Speaker 8 (01:41:32):
In your head, you just can't get it out of
your head. So I think that probably played into it
as well.
Speaker 10 (01:41:39):
George, Yeah, it's a it's a it's a it's a
frightening it's a despicable statistic.
Speaker 7 (01:41:46):
I don't know, what more I could say.
Speaker 10 (01:41:48):
I mean, this is not something that any team with
the kind of talent and the lineup that the Mets have.
This is just inexcusable. I'm sorry, there's no other way
around it. And yes, is frightening, you know, but at
the same time, it's bad, bad baseball. Let's face the fact.
Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
It's bad that you cannot off to come back, you
cannot as a team win some of these games when
you're supposed to skip.
Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
Yeah, I mean, I agree with George. That's just a bad,
bad look all around.
Speaker 9 (01:42:20):
You know, it's a bad look on the players, it's
a bad look on the coaching staff.
Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
You know what was going on? Were they just giving up?
It's almost I mean for that stat to be that
it's almost like.
Speaker 9 (01:42:33):
Oh well we're behind, it's okay, we'll win tomorrow kind
of attitude. And that's just not what good baseball player,
good baseball teams do. Good baseball teams play to the
last out and always have a chance to come back.
Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
And and it's just it's just a bad look overall.
Speaker 9 (01:42:52):
That's that's uh, that's an internal thing that needs to
be you know, squashed immediately, you know, right when it
when when you start seeing the row for ten, you
have to start, you know, really talking about that.
Speaker 6 (01:43:06):
That that's crazy stuff to me.
Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Yeah, that's why way, that's why I put it on here.
Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Okay, because it is hard to believe from everybody, especially you,
that you sat in the manager chair.
Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Go ahead, Eric, Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
Boy, there's a lot of things you can say about
the Mets epic. I wouldn't call it a collapse. I
call it an an epic bleedout, apologies to apologies to
Rob because I'm throwing. I'm gonna be throwing a lot,
a lot of things at the Mets, more than they
probably more than the amount of bullpen pictures they used
by the fourth inning. This, this is just unacceptable for
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a three hundred and thirty nine million dollar payroll team.
The Brewers were incredible in comparison, The Brewers were incredible
late in the game this year. But you have an
all star caliber lineup, you have the seven hundred and
sixty five million dollar man that you thought you would
take you over the top. Here's the thing. What it
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came down to, the Mets just could not handle having
the target on their back last year. You know, expectations
were relatively tempered you know, you know they were no
one was really expecting a whole lot out of them.
That's part of the reason why, you know, why they
why they were a compelling story last year going all
the way to the NLCS.
Speaker 11 (01:44:18):
But man, how do you with that lineup? Not at
least have one you got some serious power that lineup.
It's just unacceptable, it's embarrassing. I wonder what my Francesca
reacted to this, because I really want to.
Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
I really want to.
Speaker 6 (01:44:36):
Hear from him.
Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
I don't have that miracle left in my pocket.
Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
When I find out, I will all right, what bottom
line is is, that's why they're on the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Not all gloom and doom in New York. Though, once
upon a time there were the Brooklyn Dodgers. Guess what
you had the Brooklyn Cyclones. The Brooklyn Cyclones on their
first South Atlantic Athlete title. Rob, you have to feel
a little bit good about the Cyclones, little bit some
of those forward to the future.
Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Yeah, they're they're a fun team. And and let me
tell you, that's that stadium in Coney Island, because I've
been I've been to quite a few Cyclone games. Beautiful stadium,
right by the boardwalk. You know, the kids, it's it's
fun to go to those minor league games sometimes, you know,
they they make it fun and it's it's great to
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watch the young kids play their hearts out, and you know,
congratulations to the Cyclones.
Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Candy, kudos. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:45:29):
Like Rob said, minor league baseball is about kids wanting
to get to the next level and playing hard.
Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
A lot of times, there's like giveaways, there's more promotional,
there's more interaction with the fans and stuff like that.
I remember going up to Daytona Beach. We've gone scott
a couple of times to see the Tortugas. They had
an entertainer that was out there that was talking the
stands and getting you know this, the fans more involved,
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more entertained because that's what they're that's what people want.
They want to be entertained these days. So by kudos
to the Cyclones.
Speaker 7 (01:46:10):
George, Yeah, I agree. I mean, you know, the Brooklyn Cyclones.
Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (01:46:16):
That's a good team name.
Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (01:46:20):
And and the hats off.
Speaker 10 (01:46:22):
I mean they have done a good job obviously in
the South Atlantic League, and uh, you know, it's it's
it's a fun thing and you know minor league baseball,
say what you want about it. And I know that
Scott and Candy and Skip all you guys have been
to a lot of minor league games and these kids
are trying their best. They're trying to make these roster
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they're trying to move up to the next level. And uh,
it's a great it's a great story when you see
that kind of stuff. So I'm I'm happy for the Cyclones. Yes, indeed, all.
Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
Right, Skip, let's say your take on the Brooklyn Cyclones.
Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
And then when we get done with this segment, we're
gonna end it with the New York you sketles off
with the Psychlones.
Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
Yeah, they lived up to their name in the playoffs, right,
they did a great job.
Speaker 9 (01:47:06):
You know, the one thing about minor league baseball is
to me, when I was playing in it, there was
a lot of pride in winning, and in the last
ten years or so, it's really gotten too more. Ohle's
it's all about development. It's all about development. Well, you
still have to know, you still have to develop winners.
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Right in this little stretch that they had, it gave
them that whined attitude that you have to have to
go and succeed in the big league.
Speaker 6 (01:47:41):
So I'm I'm proud of these young players.
Speaker 9 (01:47:44):
Minor league baseball is amazing. It's so fun to be
a part of. And they got a little bit more
development because they had such a great showing in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
I'll say this before I though, Eric my first say
it was some merrill once told me winning and developing
prospect goes in and and good point. Step All right, Eric,
last word on this, and keep in mind we're gonna
go rapid fire when I have like five or six minutes,
let's talk about the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
But it's enough for what we have.
Speaker 5 (01:48:14):
Eric, Well, it's uh, you know, it's Minor league baseball
is incredible. That's how I first started getting into baseball
was minor league baseball, where I was fortunate enough with
my local team to be able to see a very
young Miguel Cabrera during Gonzalez. I saw Clinton Kershaw pitch
when he was just twenty years old. It's incredible. I
even saw you in North Carolina. I even saw Francisco
indoor when he was eighteen years old. But it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (01:48:36):
It's great.
Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
It's significantly cheaper, like everything about it significantly cheaper. It's like,
you know, you're you're not paying nearly as much as
you would be for a major league game, and you
still have still have like a you still have a
good time. If not, the product can be more compelling
at times.
Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Yeah, just a little little footing on Clayton Kershaw before
we go to the Yankees. He has been left off
the Dodgers postseason roster for the at least opening round.
Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
We'll see if he goes on later.
Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Billy probably talk about that we're on the Saturday Show,
but I'm glad you brought up him.
Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
So, yeah, he has been left off the initial roster
for this week.
Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Anyways, All right, final topics of the night and we
shift over to the Yankees rapid Player. The New York
Yankees have thirty three executive winning seasons, Rob, How impressed
are you with that number?
Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
As much as I hate to admit it, it's impressive, right,
it's impressive. But listen, I'm from New York. You either
like the Mets of the Yankees. I'm a Mets fan,
can't stand the Yankees, but it's impressive.
Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
You know what, I'm gonna combine the Yankee topics, okay,
because there are two of them.
Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Rob, So here we'll do. Should the Yankees band chanted
Volpi for the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
I think I think they did bench him for Game one,
That's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Should they?
Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
I don't know if they shouldn't bench him for the
whole playoffs. I mean, you know he's gonna get in
at some point, but I don't think he's staring tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
Okay, I'm going to say, do I think they should
bench them?
Speaker 8 (01:50:04):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
I don't think they should bench them. Do I think
it's impressive? Thirty three consecutive years.
Speaker 8 (01:50:09):
Anytime you do something that long consecutively, it's going to
be impressive. Yes, whether you're a Yankees fan or not,
that it's impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Eric.
Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
It's never been harder nowadays to constantly, you know, win
because of free agency, also trades, you know, the way
draft the way draft picks are just are dispersed. Also
you know, players, the attrition of players. It's hard to do.
Even the best teams, even the best teams in baseball,
you know, struggle struggle to do it. Not even like
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you know, not even the Dodgers have been able to
do that. But you know, it's incredible what they've done,
especially with having different managers, different general managers. I mean,
the last time they had a losing year was I
think the early nineties, which was in the beginning of
which was the beginning of Buck Showalter when he was
turning that team around. But it's incredible what they've been
able to do. They've been in the post season, they've
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been in the postseason for the most part, and they
always have a chance to win it. Granted, they're they're
arguably one of the one of the richer teams in baseball,
so they have that kind of working for them as well. Also,
you know, luxury tax factors in. But it's incredible what
they've been able to do and have, you know, being
able to finish above five hundred and at least have
a chance at a championship every single year. And as
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far as benching, Anthony Bolty goes, for the love of God,
Aaron Boone, please and end this, end that side show immediately.
It burning my eyes. I'd rather watch I'd rather, I'd
rather root for the New York Mets than watch Anthony
Bolty out on the field. He is, he is a liability.
He can't hit and he can't field. And you know,
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at this point, you might as well bring someone in
to make him earnest job in Tampa next year, because
God is he's been awful. I've given him the benefit
of the doubt, and now I am finished and I
am done. You know, you put cap Varro in there,
he'll give you a lot more than Bulpy gets because,
to be truthful, whenever a ground ball is hit to him,
it's very, very scary because you don't know where that
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ball is gonna go.
Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
Okay, yeah, two twos you know which.
Speaker 9 (01:52:18):
Yeah, the Yankees are the best franchise. Let's just be honest.
They're the best franchise in the history of baseball. Thirty
three winning season straight. That's amazing.
Speaker 6 (01:52:29):
You know, there's a lore about the Yankees. Even in
the when you're a.
Speaker 9 (01:52:34):
Major league coach or a major league player, when you
go to play the Yankees, you know the Yankees are
coming to town or you're going into Yankee Stadium and
you you.
Speaker 6 (01:52:44):
Have your hands full. It's just that's just fact.
Speaker 9 (01:52:48):
You know. It's you look on the schedule and you all,
we're playing the Yankees at this point in the season,
and it's just, uh, it's intimidating to a degree. That's
just how it is, and that's how it always will be.
You know, as far as Volpi, Hey, look you gotta
bench the guy. You got to play baseball to win.
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You know, it's not, Oh, let's give him a chance
because he's a great prospect and we'll stick with him.
Speaker 6 (01:53:16):
No, bench him.
Speaker 9 (01:53:18):
Play the best defender over at third. You're not getting
offensive output anyway. Pitching in defense are gonna win you
this championship if you're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
One excellent points.
Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
The reason why I have a manager on air because
of Callaway, been there, done that.
Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Nobody knows the game as well he does. Why do
you think he does?
Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Why do you think he's gonna get an opportunity for
like a minute to talk about his teaching lessons?
Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
He will in a moment after George Raikoon gets don
go ahead, George, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:53:49):
I mean the thing that strikes me is the fact that, yes,
twenty five in a row playoff appearances, they did get
five World Series titles. But unfortunate, and I'm not trying
to throw cold water on this subject, but unfortunately for
Yankee fans, the five World Series are not enough because
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every season that they compete, every season that they make
the postseason, the Yankees are expected to win. It's a culture.
It's a remarkable streak. Don't get me wrong, but what
have you done for me lately? Unfortunately always hangs over
the Yankees. That faul a wee bit short.
Speaker 4 (01:54:29):
But who knows.
Speaker 10 (01:54:30):
Maybe this will be their year. I don't know, but yes,
I'm happy for them, and it's a great tribute.
Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
After VULTI George, real quick, you got thirty seconds to
stake your case.
Speaker 12 (01:54:41):
Volpey, I don't know. I think he should be on
the roster. Let's let's see what goes on. I know
some of the decisions. I don't like the Kers show
decision either, but COOLPI, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:54:52):
I would, I would. I would put him back in
on the active roster.
Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
I will say what the top is? Thirty three is
my lucky number. Glad that yank he's hit the thirty
three number. My experts said to talking on vocals. Leave
it at that, all right, Candy? Uh do you you
want to get your two cents? Or have you already
done it?
Speaker 4 (01:55:09):
I already did?
Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Okay, good and give us the station break real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
We'll wrap it up and the skipper is going to
talk about uh pitting lessons and then we'll call it
a night.
Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Thanks Skipper hanging glad that you're on tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
You got to a lot of good topics, so I'm
glad that you were able to come on the audio
version your way, Okay, Candy Real quick wrapid fire on
the finish sell.
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Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Great stuff, all right, that doesn't throw us on this
edition of Hunter, such as Baseball Tucket, Ray from the
playoffs going forward, and I have some great guest lined
up as well.
Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
Keep your post said as we get closer into its
on behalf of Rob Ronscott, New York, m LV talk great.
They're a great collaborator with us. I have him on
the team, can't ambling George Eichorn And of course my
manager Mickey Calloway, May and I do a lot of
projects together and mister Calloway is doing an unbelievable job.
Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
With the way he's accepting the coaching.
Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
We have more things ahead and Eric Hasts my name
is Scott morgarof Moverers City Manam, thank you for Tryia.
We will see you next Monday night. Of course Saturday,
we have a date on Saturday, right, skip, that's right,
we'll be there. You've got it all right. Good night everybody,
and hope you enjoyed the show. And let's get ready
for the postseason. We've all been waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
Great. Thank you,