Tonight's Show has a Baseball Hall of Fame Flavor

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Happy Monday. Everybody. Welcome to another edition of a hundredays
Baseball Talk. My name is Scott Morgan Roth Motor City,
mad Mouth. Got a loaded show tonight, got a loaded crew.
Great stuff. If everybody on the crew had a good weekend.
We're talking baseball even though it's an awful lot of
football going on. Katie and I have a lot of
football going now. We got filled with Miami blowing out
n C State, and now we have FAU against Connectic

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get on Saturday, and then USF takes on Rice on
the following week Thanksgiving. We glad everybody on board. Warn
Brewster out in Hawaii Paradise.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Now now I have something I could visit out there.
That's a beautiful thing. That Navy back Uncle Warren.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Thank you, Scott. Great to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
And you got Kendy Eveling.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Always great talking baseball if you fine, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
And a long time buddy Buryfoot. We go back to
the four Lauderdale Yankees, and I learned a lot from
this manager. I'll tay you he's a winner on and
off the field.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Berry.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Thanks Scott, appreciate it. Glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
And we got George Acorn.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
Good to be here, welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
And we got the catsy Man good, good to be here,
Scott and the Clark bar.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, all right, So that said, let's get to a
busy agenda here things baseball fans must accept, and I'm
gonna go over some things that obviously occurred during the year.
I'll just ask you, everybody on the crew, do you
agree or disagree with them? For the sake of getting
through them, some of them have already passed. Not a

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big deal. This is one of the shows trying to
get off season where we have a chance to reflect
a little bit. But this year was the World Series
or bust for the Phillies. Do you agree or disagree?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Lauren?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, you know it's it's it's a fine line there. Yeah,
they've got a lot of free agents. They're gonna have
to spend a lot of money to keep that group
in tact, you know. And uh, I think Don Bowski
called Harper out right after the season was over and
said Bryce didn't have one of his better years, you know,
hoping that he will rebound and be the leader of
the team, you know, and if they lose a guy

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like Schwarber with fifty something home runs, and James Rio
Muto from behind the plate. They're in trouble. You know,
they're they'll have to rebuild, have to start from scratch
pretty much. You know, I have to start all over again.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, you know what I'm gonna do with good with everybody.
I'm gonna go go through all of them with one
person at a time, and we'll go in there. So
the next one, and Uncle Warren is gonna be this.
If the next made the playoffs, they would have been
knocked out in the first round.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I agree with that, Yeah, yeah, because there there's had
to be some turmoil and something with the amount of
money they paid those players. You know, there's there's something
wrong there with them not being in the playoffs to
begin one.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, the next one. The murders would be dangerous in
the playoffs. Well, it's to say they were Warren't you
want to go out?

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know. And they're they're got a
strong nucleus, a young nucleus. Josh Naylor re signed, so
they're in good shape. You know, They're they're moving forward.
I think they'll they'll be a big make some big
moves in the offseason. You know, they've they've kind of
laid in the weeds and now they've they've got a
contending ball club that's gonna have when came in one

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game from being in the World Series this year.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
And the Yankees would be favorites if they had had
Garrett Coole all right, Warren.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yes, oh, yeah, without question. Yeah. I mean he's one
of the top five pitchers in in all of baseball.
You know, he's a horse. You can ride him for
a long way, so you're going to get a strong
seven out of him almost every fifth day. So that's
you know, that really hurt their rotation when they lost him.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
The Orioles would be in the playoffs if they had
a different general manager.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well that's you know, that's tough call, you know, because
he's you know, they they it seems like that's the
way the game's going, that the front office is running
things and the manager is kind of just a figurehead,
you know. So I just, uh, general manager very important.
They got to bring the players in that the manager
can run out there and play with, you know. But

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I know that's that's hard to say. I you know,
I'm not that I know that much about the Orioles,
and it's something that I really can't speak to.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Kate Horton will win a Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I don't know if he did or not, but maybe
somebody has an answer to him.

Speaker 7 (04:58):
He he did not, Drake Baldwin.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, all right, so well obviously we'll so Eric will
just refresh us there over right, So we'll just we're
going to pass on these other three. Pete crow Armstrong
is overrated war Do you think he is or not?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
No, I don't think so. Now he's a young man,
he's only twenty three years old. I think he's just
coming into his prime. You know. He's a great defensive
outfielder and now the bat's starting to come around. I
think he'll do nothing to get better.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Okay, last, Jeroboo is the top three short stop.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
There's yeah, there's guys that have been around longer than him.
You know. That's it. I would say, no, okay, all.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Right, Candy, I'll give you all this. I'll go through
him a rapid fire, and then we'll continue. We have
a lot of other things to get to, all right,
So we'll go back to the beginning. Candy, this year
was World Series of US for Phillies. You agree with
disagree with that?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I agree? Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
If the Mets made the playoffs, but they have been
a first round knockout, yes, okay, the Mariners would be
dangerous in the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
Oh yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yankees would be world serious favorites if they had had
Garrett Cole. I agree, okay, those would be in the
playoffs if they had a different GM.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Uh, I'm gonna disagree with that one.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
And he crows overrated, Armstrong was overrated. No, and last
we talked about Gerondro for Domo is the top three
short stop?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
No? Okay, Arry, want me go over them all again?
Oral quickly?

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Or if you don't mind, you know, I'm old.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
You look fantastic. That's okay.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Maybe by the time Trent he'll have num right, just
kidding with you. By the way, Zion, Andy, thanks for
being in here tonight. Okay, we'll go. We'll start it
again and that's this. Okay, we've got World Series are
bust for the Phillies.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
I think the Phillies could come back. I mean, you know,
I think they're gonna spend money. I think that will right.
I think there's a good chance they'll resign Schwarber and
and Harper's got to have a good year. I mean Harper,
Harper is that the superstar, you know, a year that
he normally has or has had in the past. They
aren't going to compete, but I think they could. You know,

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they lost their top pitcher there at the end, so
you know, I don't know, you know how deep in
the wallet they're willing to go, but they got the
money to do that.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
If the Mets have made the playoffs, that they have
been a first.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Round knockout, yeah, probably.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
The Mariners would be will be dangerous in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Uh yeah, the Mariner is going to be tough because
you know they got The way I look at clubs
on the long run is how many I'm we're gonna
end up in the Hall of Fame potentially, And they
got two or three guys that are potential Hall of Famers.
When you have that nucleus, you're going to be tough.
And they're young, so yeah, I like the have long term.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
No, they look off at the Yankees the World Series
favorites of the Garret Cole.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
In New York, they would be, but you know they
having played there. I always get over hype. But yeah,
they missed Cole. I mean, I think Warren said it best.
You know, he's seven innings, which is a big deal nowadays,
and they're gonna be seven to eight quality innings. So yeah,
they would have been much better off with him obviously.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, and well let's see the would be different. Who
would be playoffs if they had a different general manager.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
If he could hit for him and go out in
the field for him. But they can't. They're young players,
you know, they haven't they haven't had a rook Richmond
or the catcher there had a you know, had a
bad year and then well they had another catcher came
in and did great. Great, So if he can come
back and those young kids can play to their potential,

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they're going to be tough. But I don't know that
it's the GM's fault. But obviously, like Warren said, uh,
the GM's have more fault than ever because they got
their nose and everything.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Great point, Berry, thank you. Yeah, Well we move on
from the o's obviously, we'll talk about Pete Crow and
Gerardo throw them.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
I like Crow. I think he's going to be a
very good player. He brings defense to the game every night,
and you know last year he had a really good
first half, fell off a little and second. But no,
I like him a lot, and no, I don't think
he's a top three short stop.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, George, move on to you, Phillies.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Phillies, No I have You know. I'm a big Dave
Dombrowski fan, So I'm not going to close the lid
on them yet. So the window has not closed.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, about the mat So they've been a first round
knockout they got.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
I'm gonna I'm gonna have to join the crowd here
on this one and say yes.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, well, okay, now we'll talk about the Mariners being
dangerous in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Well, you certainly, if you're from Detroit, you know they're
dangerous and they will remain dangerous. So uh, that's an
absolute yes for me. They got a great team.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What the Yankees and Garry Cole?

Speaker 6 (10:18):
I mean, the thing is is it could they have
gotten I don't think they could have beat the Dodgers
again in another matchup, but I would say yes, if
they had Cole, they probably would have gotten to the
to the series at least.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
All Right, then we'll move on to Pete prol Armstrong
in Geronto for Domo.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Well, I'm big on both of them. I'm going to
say yes to each one of them. I mean, they're
yes that they're going to have positive futures in the MLB.
I mean, that's it. That's a Oh. The other thing
is I think the Baltimore general manager will throw my
two sets on that. It's very hard, you know, to
be in today's world. He does take the flak or

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she uh, and we're waiting for the first of that.
But we got to make sure that people understand that
it's not all on them. Was it you Bury or
the one that about the fielding here, he's not suiting up,
he's not batting, you know, And that's so true. And
I lived through it here with Alavila and what they did.
The torment the media gave to that man was just relentless.

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So I'm going to say to Baltimore, no, keep the
general manager going hopefully.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Okay. And then the other two as I mentioned as well, George,
you got Pete Crow overrated and Geraldo program out did
you mention that or anything?

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Pete Crow is not overrated to me, Di, although I'm
a little bit a little iffy on that I'm going
to say no to him. But Pete definitely is not overrated.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, Eric, you want to do you.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Remember one of them?

Speaker 8 (11:50):
Is?

Speaker 7 (11:50):
I know the Yankees one. I'll probably need to reminder.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'll do it two more times. Okay, that way I'll
have it all memorized. It cakes ready for my exam. Anyway,
tell you listen, I passed a two fifteen right candy
in the first time and made it.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Although I won ugly.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Then again, that's my my whole life story anyways, except
that with her I won pretty but well.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
This year was how but bust or World Series? What
would you say there?

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Uh No, I think I think they got another run
in them.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Okay, and the Mats. Would they have been a first
round casualty?

Speaker 7 (12:28):
They yes, they would have been a casualty's understatement.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, it is all right, Seattle and anybody expect them
to be this good.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Obviously they weren't dangerous.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
They're Oh they're they got there, They're they're there. They
got a bright future ahead of them. Came within one
game of the World Series. This that team is going
to be a force in the al West for a while.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And what about the Yankees and Garrett Cole.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
Uh No, and here's why, because their bullpen was a
mess all year.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Okay, man, let's talk about the Orioles. Will they be
in the playoffs with a different general manager?

Speaker 7 (13:05):
Nah, it's they returned the same team from last year
that went that went to the playoffs the past couple
of years. So, uh it would have made a difference.
The youngest the start. The young stars at the Haverick regressed.
They need to they need to start playing up their
potential better because most of them had it down here.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Pete crow Armstrong overrated.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
Now too early. Anyway, it was his first year where
he actually was pretty good offensively. Is just just give
it more to give, you know, show me more. But
I think he's going to be be a stud all.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Right finally, Geraldo, No, you know, this is his first
year where he was actually really was actually had a
pretty good offensive year.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
So like, no, he's not there yet, just based off
of one year.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Okay, all right, Clark at you're next.

Speaker 9 (13:53):
I think the Phillies all hang around, and I think
they're gonna put it back together. Dombrowski's figured it out before.
I think they'll stay.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
So you don't think it was World Series or bus
this past year yep. Okay, the Mats first round knockout.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
Yep, yep. Just too inconsistent. And the Mariners, man, there's
are I agree with Katsy on this one.

Speaker 9 (14:16):
They're they're positioned to be there for a hot minute,
and it helps that there's not a lot of they're
competing against them in that division either, So I think
they're going to own the West for a few years here.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
And they have been in a World Series.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
I'm also I'm also staying with the catsy. I can't believe.
I can't believe catch he said out loud to be honest, Like,
I'm gonna go with him on this and be like
he's right.

Speaker 9 (14:41):
Their bullpen's kind of inconsistent and not not strong, and
and you know, uh, cole hasn't been a you know,
an absolute stopper in the playoffs. He's great, and he's uh,
he's a guy who eats innings and you need him healthy.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
And man, you.

Speaker 9 (14:57):
Know, we're starting to talk about Jared Colebot the more
years he's unhealthy than the years he's healthy.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
And that's concerning.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, it sure is okay, and let's talk about Obviously
we've got the Oriols and the different channel manager.

Speaker 9 (15:14):
Yeah, I don't think it would have changed anything. I
think I agree with everybody that the GM is a
fall guy for sure. But you know, they've also positioned
themselves for that, like maybe stepping across the field a
little too much. There's a little too much green stains
on the dress es up in the GMS. But at
the end of the day, listen, he's not playing the game.

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I mean, team's gotta go out there and get it done,
and they did not. I don't think it matters who
who's running at home?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, Pete Crow over right at you.

Speaker 9 (15:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna abstain from both those guys,
don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, all right, I'll give you a like two cents
and don't move on to the next topic. It don't
get easier backed on THEIRS. I don't think it was
World Series or bust a Philly. They had a lot
of great players, but the bottom line is is the
Dodgers the Dodgers, and that's how they just do it.
I hopefully we'll see whether they'll us more on the
Phillies later in the show. As far as the mess
I actually thought they had a chance to go all

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the way with what I saw in spring training. My boy,
I'll toay you the fact that they didn't get into
playoffs is unbelievable. But yeah, they would have been a
first round knockout had they have gotten in With this
group of teams, the Mariners. The one thing Dan Wilson did,
Whale a job for him. He's sure dead watch out
for this team. As far as the Yankees, I'll tell
you what, I think that Garrett Cole gets him at

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least one or two more rounds at least that they
had gotten in there, and they wouldn't have been a
quick exit. The Oriols, well, they need a lot of
help the rebuilding. When else get Moore and I have
to add to it. Pete Crow was a great player
up and coming and Geraldo perdrmo Young tv T All right,
we'll continue on and let's figure that we were going

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to go on to Tony Quinn. Okay, can you believe
this that in his career he struck out only four
hundred and thirty four times and ninety two hundred and
eighty eight career at bats. I'll tell you what Warren.
That's unbelievable, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, it's amazing, especially in the way the game's played today.
Just nobody liked that. In the game today, a few
guys can make contact like that. But he was amazing.
I mean, he could do anything with the bat. He
was just you know, definitely a Hall of Famer. Almost
hit four hundred one year. You know, there wasn't wasn't
anything he couldn't do it at bat.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, the Liepoles to bad Died Way.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
He's known for his meticulous hitting technique and video studying.
He won eight batting titles, tying him for the most
in the National League history. He batted left handed and
maintained a career batting average above three hundred. Great hitter, yeah, Verry.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Oh, just a great hitter. You know, he could. He
he was kind of guy I just knew where the
barrel of the bat was at all times, put the ball,
bat on the ball, inside outple hit some home runs
one year when he wanted to show people get it
home runs, you know Hall of Famer.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
George Well, yeah, I mean this guy was fantastic. I mean,
you know, you go back to this team that you know,
ended up in the eighty four World Series, and we
all know how that ended up and not in San
Diego's favor, but he was a part of that. Even
though he's very young, he was phenomenal. I mean, let's
face it, you know, eight batting titles in fifteen, all fifteen,

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sixteen whatever, fifteen All Star appearances. This guy was tremendous.
What an athlete and won a great hitter.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
I mean, I mean Tony gwyn I mean mister Padra.
I mean the only guy who who I think is
comparable to him now in today's game would be Stephen
Quahd and Cleveland. But you know it's for you know,
getting forty always striking out forty forty something time for
a career. That's uh, you know most people beg for
that in a month.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
Carky, Yeah, I modeled myself after this guy in college.
I mean, I thought that was such a thing. Get
get the barrel on the ball. Struck out like for
me three times my senior year in college, and that was.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
The whole thing.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
The one thing I think about what Catsy just said
is like, you know, I'm a lot better athlete than
Tony Wynn, and so Steven Kwan, like, this guy's not fast,
and think about like all those things about him putting
the ball in play and hitting for that average, like
he's not legging stuff out, So you know, it's such
a tribute to his quality of preparation.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
I think that was the big difference. I think he
was just so prepared for everybody.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I think one of the most inspiring things I've ever
seen in my lifetime was watching Tony Gwynn and Ten
Williams at Fenway Park.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Sitting a golf cart. But you've seen those two incredible
hitters in a golf cart. That tells you there's an
awful lot of three hundred averages and mutual respect hitting
his concern. Okay, well, let's go to another pitching accomplishment,
which I think is really cool too. And on August tenth,
nineteen ninety nine, Tim Wakefield strikes out four batters of

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one inning Warren four batters And.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's amazing, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, Well he had a
nasty knuckleball, you know, And that was I think it
was Bob Euker that said when he had to catch knuckleballers,
he just let the ball hit the backstop and waited
till it stopped rolling picked it up. That's what happened, obviously,
you know, the catcher missed one and the guy got
on the first base after he's striking out.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, and you know what, it's a shame that him
and his wife passed away. And I know a lot
of people have heard that story. We'll talk more about
it later on, but him and his wife passed away,
and he's left with a daughter. And it sounds like
they're doing okay with the Holder family members and the
Red socksy're taking them on end. But the Wakefields are
a very inspiring story, Candy.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
You know, it's pretty amazing to think. I mean, how
many times in history has that even been done for
strikeouts in one inning in MLB? It'd be an interesting
stat It's happened ninety nine times, actually ninety three players,
but four players have done it twice and one has

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done it three times. So it's pretty impressive if you
think along the lines of how many innings across how
many games in MLB history?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Tim Wakefield, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Barry, knuckleball. That's all you got to say, knuckleball. The
guy couldn't catch it, So that happens, especially if you
got a knuckleball like waitfield head.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I mean, you're a catcher, you ought to know how
many knuckleball you have to go?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I called more knuckleballs when I was coaching and catching
in the bull pen with Charlie Huff and some other
so I did as a player.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Really Okay, cool stuff, Okay, George, Charlie.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
That's an oddity. I know, it's a rare thing. Striking
out four and one A and that's it is quite
a quite a feat. You know, he only played in
one All Star Game, but boil Boy, the Red Sox
fans loved him, as we know, and uh, the Hall
of Fame at the Boston Red Sox Hall of Fame
welcomed him. And yeah, it was a tragic ending for
him and his wife. And but yeah, that's a great

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achievement Scott to do that, and that's off to a
guy that really really earned his stripes and the good
guy in baseball history.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Eric.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
It's I don't know how that was possible to have
four strikeouts in one inning. I mean, but but you
know with tim Wayfield, you know, nasty knuckler, I mean,
you know he was he threw it for a long
time and it was really really good at it.

Speaker 9 (22:57):
Clark He Yeah, you know, if there was a guy
that I would bet on, a four strikeout guy, he
would be a good one, you know, knowing a catcher
that's got to go back there as asking for a
day of bruises. Maybe, you know, I think that he
probably would have been a good selection.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Charlie hof probably would have been a number two.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
They got a long Yeah, that's what you talk about.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, rest in peace, Tim Wayfield and your wife and
I'm sure your kids are proud of anybody associated with
the game of baseball. It definitely feels that the game
is better when Tim Tim Wakefield was.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Contributing to it, for sure.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, David Nortez was inducted in Vale all of time
in July twenty fourth, fourteen twenty two.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Is a DH.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Is everybody okay with d H is getting in like
this because David or he's obviously I know, I know
that at times that people were affected, he'd be on steroids.
But he's one of those guys that knows how to
go ahead and play the media pretty well and got
along with him. So I don't know if he managed
to get in or not. There's always a question mark.
So what would be your best guess on this one?

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If David Orti is a legitimate Hall of Famer, Warren.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Well, you know he's He's a Hall of Famer off
the field, that's for sure, because when they had the
Boston Marathon and the problem with the Boston Marathon, you know,
he stepped up and led the charge of Boston's strong,
Stay strong, Boston, you know. So, but you know it's
hard for hard for dhs. But he did play first

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base for a number of years, so he did play
a position. And but I don't know if his numbers
are worthy of the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know, it takes something special and to be a
d H and you think about, oh, you're not playing
the field, it's just you know, but your head has
to really be in the game because you're only going
up there and playing part of the game once every
couple of innings, depending on where it is now. Kudos

(25:04):
to him or doing that. There are a couple of
others that are kind of in the Hall of Fame
that played. To be honest with you, Paul Mollader played
more games at DH than he did at any other
position during his career and you know, so kudos, but yes,

(25:26):
it's got to takes something special to be able to
have a Hall of Fame career as a DH.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
What do you think, Barry Hall of Famer October three Championships,
you know, for me as a Hall of Famer, and
and he's been you know, he was good for the
organization too, so that that I think that counts for something.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I totally agree, Barry, Thank you, George.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Yeah, he finished to eighty six is average, twenty four
hundred hits, five and forty one home runs. I think
he's a Hall of Famer, you know, ten time All Star.
I know he's like a media darling, now I get that,
and I mean he's a great asset on that Fox
Pree game. But the fact of the matter is that

(26:15):
I think there is room for designated hitters in the
Hall of Fame. Not frequently. We waited a long time
on relief pitchers, and we waited a very long time
on dhs. But yeah, I think it's a it's a part.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
Of the game.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
Oh yeah, I mean he averaged he average generally, he
averaged thirty to thirty to fifty home runs a season.
Plus look what he did. And you know, look what
the damage he did in October, and he won multiple
championships with the Red Sox. I mean, you know, why
shouldn't a DHB in the Hall of Fame? I mean,
you know, they still got to go up to the
plate and hit. I mean, that's what comes down to
at the end of the day. And David Ortiz did
that at a very high level for for a long time,

(26:52):
even even in his last year last year with the
Red Sox. SO but yeah, I don't I don't see why,
why why we shouldn't have a dh in And they
still got to go up there and hit, and if
they put up the numbers, you know, got to put
him in.

Speaker 9 (27:05):
Okay, right, A big fan of Big Poppy. I agree
with everyone about he is Boston son. He's a good
media guy. But I also believe he's listed in the
Mitchell Report. I'm pretty assured. And so if we're going
to talk and start comparison that game, then I can

(27:27):
tell you if I got a team, we're gonna pick sides.
I'm taking Barry Bonds over that guy all day long,
because you know, Barry Bonds a lot better players than
that guy. So and I'm not saying he's not a
good player. I'm just saying, if we're talking Hall of Fame,
I'm embarrassed, and Big Poppy gets in and Barry Bonds
is not great point.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So I'll tell you one thing.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Anybody know that I believe that Ortiz started off with
the Minnesota Twins and they let him go and then
Block take him up. So, yeah, he leaves the Minnesota Twins,
he does pretty well with the Red Sox, and the
rest of his history has vary, and everybody else alluded
to his postseason success was unbelievable. I had heard someone
to that effect of the mental report. So again I'm

(28:08):
still to I mean, Barry Bonds I could get in
with a different vote, although I'm still hoping don nnically
gets in, and I'm praying that Donnie gets in. All right,
let's go to Dylan Seats. What's not traded at the deadline?
Where are some possible destinations for the padres pitcher? Warren,
would you have any idea where do you think Dylan

(28:29):
Seats could go?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well, there's a number of teams, so now everybody's going
to be in the market for They're always in the
market for starting pitchers, and he's got a great track record,
you know, the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets, the Giants.
You know, there's there's gonna be a lot of things
hidden for his services.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Candy.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
YEA A good quality starting pitcher is it's a gem,
and you can't find a lot of those. It just
depends on if the rice tag is right for some
of these other teams, you know, as opposed to obviously
the ones that can spend a whole lot of money.
But we the Dodgers proved that starting pitching obviously in

(29:14):
the World Series helped them win it all. I mean
that was what there what how they wanted was with
their starting pitching.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Verry, Yeah, I think that. You know, you got a
lot of teams that are in the hunt and a
lot of teams with money. The Giants they haven't signed anybody,
you know, lately, and they've got a lot of money.
So yeah, there's plenty of places for him to land,
and he's a he's a quality starter. He'll go somewhere
and make a lot of money.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
George, Yeah, I mean, you nail that, Barry. I mean,
there's so many teams that use de pitching right now.
I know the Tigers are in the market for another starter.
There's all you know, you go right down around the league.
I mean, Chan Francisco of the place, San Diego should
try to sign him, keep him there, but we don't
know if that's going to be a possibility. But I think, yeah,

(30:07):
I'm very high on I. I mean, he's he's got some
great stuff. I I like him as a pitcher and uh,
he's still got a lot of good stuff left in
it for sure.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
Dylan Sees obviously, has put together a solid career for
himself in base in baseball, first beginning with the Whitehawks
and then with the Padres. As far as pre agency goes,
I could see him going. I could see him going
to the Giants. He's got he'd be He'd be playing
in a pitcher friendly ballpark. I think it would be
a good fit for him. Logan Logan web needs a
Robin and so you know, I think Dyla and Sis
would be a perfect guy.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I like that Logan Webb okay Man.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
You know, obviously, if he's got Boris as his agent,
then you know he's brushing up his resume for the
top bidder, which will likely be New York or LA
and so it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.
I think Seattle might make a little bit. They made
some money this year. They got a little money to spend. Obviously,
to Barry's point, like San Francisco is always in the game. No,

(31:07):
what I'd like to see, I'd like to see if
the Padres actually held all their pictures what they would
be right now, because they'd be a force.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
Well.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
During our next show, when we do this again in
about two weeks, I'm going to talk about all the
players that the Padres shipped away at the trade deadline,
but that after this one because they guy only knows
they traded a lot of them. Yeah, I mean, what
what the market's wide open for him? I think San
Francisco and anything that where he could go with the
Pitcher's Park makes an awful lot of sense. And there's

(31:38):
a few of those places. Hey, you never know, Seattle
could be in play as well for them. Again, Pictures
Park is a key to this whole thing. So let's
talk about the fact that the Padres acquired Ryan O'Hearn
from the Baltimore Rials. Let's examine the trade. Anybody want
to what are your thoughts about it?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Weren't well, you know the Padres, that was their one
of their weak links was a catcher. You know, they
needed catching and He's he fit the bill for him,
you know, and that was that made him stronger once
he came in and started playing every day. And it
was a great shed for the Padres. It was a
good move that they made, you know, with something that

(32:16):
they needed.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Andy, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
It worked, it worked out. Like I'm not as familiar
with that trade, scottle.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Okay, Barry, we don't, you know, and I know a
thing of two about catchers.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
Well, yeah, I mean he's he had a good, solid year.
I think he hit seventeen eighteen home runs and did
a good job. So it was a good acquisition for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
George.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, I mean when you get that kind of hitting
from a catcher, and like you mentioned, Barry almost twenty homers.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
But I.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Think he's got a lot of great years ahead of him. Man,
he's a great find in I think that's going to
be a good thing for him in his career. The
next move, we don't know, but you know, they he's
done well. He's done very well for himself. I like him.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Eric, Oh, it was you know, as far as as
far as the round of Hearn move, I thought it
was a good move for San Diego. You know, he's
a good he's a good bat, he's a he you know,
he can you know, he did some good things offensively.
He can play a little he can play a little
bit of first base. I think, you know, he set
himself up for for a decent payday, come come free agency.

(33:33):
I thought Baltimore had to make the move because they
weren't going anywhere, and so they gave him to give
him the San Diego and he did some he did
some good things for him.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
All right, Trent, you're able to comment on this. I
don't know where he's at.

Speaker 9 (33:46):
Yeah, I would say that, you know, another kind of
difference maker position in the playoffs, like if you get
a guy who can actually kind of show up. We
saw this with a couple of players this year. It's
a it's an unherald the position. It always kind of
ends up being significant when it all comes down and
shakes out.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
So you know, it'd be interesting to see that. You get.

Speaker 9 (34:08):
Now, is San Diego going to be a playoff team?
So that's a big question. But I like I like
his I like the move for San Diego. I think
it's good for them, hopefully it's just not another player
who bullshers of value and then leads.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Again.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Anytime you can bulls the backstop, it's a great move
and I think they did find there.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
All right.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Look, the Tiger's traded for Detroit native and twenty twenty
four All Star Kyle Again, who's now a free agent.
Does he resign in Motown? Because I know at one
point they replaced him on the I L with the
right abductors trained it, but he did make it back
for the playoffs. We'll start with you. Do you think
that Kyle Thinny going to be back in Detroit? If not,

(34:48):
where do you think he can wind up?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Well?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
He was you know he missed, Yeah, he missed half
the season right in the middle of the season. But
he did well when he was when he was healthy.
And I'm sure the Tigers wanting that question. You know,
he was mainstay in that bullpen. So I'd say he
stays in Detroit. They're going to do everything they can
to resign him.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Candy, you know, I think Detroit has a lot of
question marks because they obviously won't have to pay Trek
Schooble a lot of money. So whether they can retain
a lot of these other pitchers or not will be
the key. Hopefully they'll be able to, but we'll only

(35:28):
time and money and contracts will tell.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
And again, Scott Boris is a big part of the
whole thing too.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
School Barry, Oh, yeah, I think that he you know,
they're going to try to sign him. Comes down to,
you know, what's their budget gonna be for schoobl You're
gonna have to dig thirty to forty million a year
for him, then the end of what you're gonna have
left over. But yeah, he pitched well for them, so
I'm sure they want him.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
By George, you're close to it.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
A lot of people forget that he was actually born
in Detroit, Michigan. Uh yeah, thirty four years old. And yeah,
I mean you could tell that AJ liked him, I mean,
you know, and he got along well with Dingler the catcher.
I mean, they had a good relationship and still do.
And the question mark again is going to be how
much he's gonna want and how much are they going

(36:19):
to be able to sign him for if they can.
But I think that they realize that there's still a
lot of question marks in that Tiger bullpen. So I
would think it would be wise for the Tigers to
make every effort to keep Kyle Finnigan in the fold.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
I mean, Kyle Finnigan was really nice down the stretch
for the for the Tigers. I mean, I think with that,
I think what would have happened with had the Tigers
not made that move, they might have They're they're embarrassing
choke job in the Al Central might have actually might
actually resulted them not going to the playoffs. But you know,
but he's a good closer obviously the Tigers. You know,

(36:56):
he's open to go, he's open to coming back. I
would imagine the Tigers will do everything they can to
bring him back. But you know, it's more of a
that's more of a question to the younger Illich if
what he wants to do. But he but you know,
he there's gonna be some teams that are put that
are gonna want that are going to want him as well.
I know that Dodgers are the Dodgers definitely need some
help with with their in their closer spot because Tanner

(37:18):
Scott was a gonna pleae bust for them last year.
And there will be and also besides for him, the
Cubs could The Cubs could definitely make a move for them.
And don't forget the Diamonbacks need closer too because the
Dombacks bullpen was a disaster last year.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I've even helped.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
I've even heard comments said he could go to the
Miami Marlins. You never know, the Marlins might be spending
a bit of money since they're mainly finished four games
under five hundred. And by the way, what we start
to I have a pretty good line of coming up
for Saturdays as well is I'll have a bunch of
my colleagues in Miami joining me on that show. So
stay tuned for some updatess there. Trent some thoughts about again.

Speaker 9 (37:54):
Yeah, I think he's obviously he's a fit and Detroit
loves it born there, so it all makes sense to
bury his point.

Speaker 8 (38:02):
I don't know if there's any many left over for.

Speaker 9 (38:04):
Him, So he may have to work for pizzas because
you know, maybe maybe they'll cut him in on some
little Caesars franchises. I don't know, like because he's going
to go home, and maybe they'll give him some equity
in the in the pizza business.

Speaker 8 (38:16):
I don't know. But it's not going to come in dollars.

Speaker 9 (38:19):
I don't think they've got what it takes to sign
him if they keep school.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Interesting point, well, it just depends on how much he
wants to and and again his injury at the end
of the year didn't help matters any either. So is
there a hometome don't I don't know, but they certainly
can use them. You'd hate to think that the Tigers
everything they did at the trade deadline would go off
or not that he can't even retain one or two
of those players. All right, so we're gonna step off

(38:47):
baseball for a second, go to something that you have
a lot of leaders in this group. So so I'm
going to go to college basketball for a pit second.
Calvin Sampson, they head coach of the EUROCIA of Houston,
offered some words of wisdom, saying, no one loses anything
as long as they don't quit. And then, what do
you think happened in June? He got a contract, et cetera.

(39:08):
And how valid is that warrant? I mean, do you think, uh?
I think coach Sampton is definitely in line when he says.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
That, right, Oh, I agree, totally right, He's right on
the mark. Yeah, because I mean the money that's being
handed out now in the NCAA, that finally opened up
the pocketbook, and and they're playing paying the players and
the coaches are making great livings. So it's you know,

(39:35):
don't quit, just keep doing your job and do the
best you can at it.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Candy, Quitters never win, so and winners never quit. So yeah,
you gotta, you gotta. That's a good quote. You have
to keep keep going and shooting for whatever you can
and put everything into everything into it. You can try
and win.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Well every now and then, I'll throw these little curve
balls in here burying Obviously, you're a man.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
He probably preaches man million times over in the show.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Well, I like I like Samson. He's a North Carolina boy,
grew up dirt pord in an Indian area. I think
he has Indian blood in him itself. So yeah, he's
a good man, Okay, George.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Yeah, I think that's a very good statement. I think
he is a very good man and a very good
darn good coach too, And uh, I admire him. And
then those are words for the wise, really, those are
words for athletes to take definitely, Eric.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
I mean definitely agree with him all the way. I mean,
it's it's clearly helped him make Houston. It's clearly helped
him make Houston, you know. Relevant Again, they're kind of
I don't believe they've been this good since since Hakeim
and Clyde we were on that hardwood. But you know,
I agree with them all the way.

Speaker 9 (40:51):
Okay, Harky, Yeah, I like that little like that reference
to the old Clyde Dreuxler days.

Speaker 8 (40:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
I see.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:02):
For me, I mean, I'm a big fan of coach Sampson.
I think he's just an upbreak guy, you know. I
think it's always one of those things where you know,
it's where you want your kid to go and be
a man. And he's a guy. I think he really
develops young men, and he's won everywhere. He's winning record.
I think I think it comes back. We heard some
nice little quotes here, and I think it's you win

(41:23):
or you learn, right, So if we don't win, we
want to maximize our effort, get everything out and learn
why we didn't win. And I think Sampson is really
good on that, which is why he's proven. He's probably
coaching it like an eighty five percent win ratio.

Speaker 8 (41:36):
Right, so I think his boys do learn and uh
and he's good at teaching. So impressive coach.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
You know.

Speaker 8 (41:44):
Congrats the University of Houston. I think they really got
you know, a Hall of Fame coach there.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, we're actually an upbreak big in this quote tag
on inside the pitch in the marrow.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I like it so much.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
Wine on.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Everybody else get their taste of it as well. All right,
one more topic before we was Station Brink on August
thirty first, two thousand and six. Get this, Jim Leland
stops mid argument to honor America during God Bless America.
Then he did get objected from the game. How do
you like that one? If that isn't true American stuff, Warren,

(42:17):
I don't know. Jim Leland stopped and oh my god,
and then he's out of there.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah. Well, Jim Gleialand is a classic guy.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
I was.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I had the fortune of the month I spent with
the White Sox. He was our third base coach, so
I got to know Jim a little bit. Great guy,
just just a wonderful and then got the manager's jobs.
Was successful everywhere he went, you know, and that just
that's Jim Leland in a in a nutshell right there.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I worked with him for quite a few years and
I'm proud of the pictures I got with Jim and
he and the things that he taught me.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Candy stand up guy. Yeah, I mean, uh, that's it's great. Yeah.
Leland had such a good historied career. He's in Hall
of Fame and even down here, I know the Marlins
recognized him this what was this past year or the
year before. So yeah, great great human being.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Kerry Well, he's a great he was a great manager.
I mean, he's a Hall of Famer, and I think
doing what he did shows his patriotism but also shows
you how strategic arguing really is. That you know, he
didn't lose his temper to get thrown out. There was
a strategic reason why he while he was out there,
so that that I think shows you that.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
So yeah, the great guy he really is, and he
admires a servicemen and women that serve our country. And
also he has great respect for first responders. I know
every time the Tigers had a ceremony, which most teams
do now every year to respect either the military and
or the first responders, Jim was always out there and

(44:00):
you know, talking to people before the game and the
servicemen and women that helped out. He always had a
great response. I don't think that's a surprising thing at all.
In fact, I think it would be downright rude and
stupid of somebody to continuing arguing if he did not
if he did not do that. But the fact that
you guys have all mentioned that, you know, the gym

(44:22):
was a class guy. It still is still is. He
loves the game and the game loves him.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I think he stopped an argument for God Bless America.
Come on, George got a life, so he's stopped for
God Bless America. And that have become a seventh any thing?
How many games do you stay pass the seventh inning?
Sick there? And I know you like to leave early. Here,
let me let me tell you the life of a
sports runner named George Iiicorn. Okay, get this, get to
the game now again. I've learned, I get this very Okay,

(44:50):
this will way back in the day when we were
doing this together, it's different.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
This guy will get there. Oh, I know, everybody from
Detroit sports.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Media, let's say that work to do all this good stuff.
And by the time seventh day I gave really, hey,
don't care about postgame. You shicked them in. I can
show you a thing about postgame. I've been in with
the most interesting postgame situation of the planet, including one
of that Saturday night which I going to do. All
I know is I'm a Miami sports writer, right, Candy,

(45:16):
the Miami guy.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
What do they call me on Saturday?

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Miami sports writer is good enough.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I'm a Miami sports writer, people, and I'm teaching some
things about postseason. I'll tell you for all those that
want to know about the Miami's sports Rader things going
in the book. Oh, I got a ducy for your people.
All right, Eric, this is something you know. This is
different than slamming a paper on the desk. Gona tell
you so, I'm not teaching you this thing. You just
don't teach his stuff, Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (45:44):
Well, well, I was expecting you to to slam your
post your postgame interview notes on Georgia's desk. But but yeah,
nowadays you slam, you slam the clicker down for on
your computer to send it. But the seriously, but yeah, Jim,
I remember when this happened though. I mean, it just
comes to show you just how much of a class
guy Jim Jim Leland is. I mean, he you know,

(46:06):
he knows, he's grateful. He said publicly before he's grateful
for all servicemen and women, So you know, no surprise
that he would do that. I mean, storied career turned around,
the Pirates turned around. The turn had got the Tigers
back to the postseason for the first time and god
knows how long at that point. And he also he
also took the Marlins. He also won a World Series

(46:27):
with the Marlins, So you know, all in all though
he's you know, he's he's he's the gold standard when
it comes to when it comes to managers, and most
memorably too, there was nothing, nothing more, nothing more great
with than seeing him crush a heater in the dugout.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I don't have an answer for that. All I can
tell you before I go to Clark, he is he's human.
The only last of one year in Colrado and got
out of there when he knew that.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
He couldn't play whimble. He couldn't.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
He's able to manage baseball, not whipple ball out in Colrado,
So he was he is a one and done.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
There you can finish up Jim Leland.

Speaker 8 (47:04):
Yeah, I think you guys have said it all. The
one thing I really gained a lot of insight.

Speaker 9 (47:10):
Never didn't coach much against Leland's teams, but one of
the great insights I got was from a book called
The Chicken Runs at Midnight about one of the coaches
and the backstory of his life. And you know, he
was a huge Leland guy, and Leland is a big
influence on his coach and his wife, and they kind
of intertwine him in the in the story. It's a

(47:33):
it's a fabulous story.

Speaker 8 (47:34):
I highly recommend it.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
And as usual, Jim Leland shines as the man he
truly is. So it's it's great to see that even
some of the biography stories tell the same tale that
all the sports writers, all the coaches that played coach
with him, and you know, very consistent, authentic guy.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Okay, time to go to the station break. When we
come back, we're gonna talk to Philadelphia Phillies, mistermore on
the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Got some more filia for mister my uncle Warren.

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Speaker 1 (49:03):
Beth you Scott, all right, great stuff. I don't know, Trent,
you have a heart out at ten? Is that what
you usually have a heart out of ten?

Speaker 8 (49:10):
Or are you able to stay on longer nine eastern.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Oh, okay, I don't know where you're at anyways, Okay,
nine eastern. Oh, that's right, that's right, nine eastern. I'm
sorry it's only fifty two because we're starting early. I'm
a little messed up with my clock stuff. All right,
let's go to this the Phillies all time lineup. We're
gonna actually start off with tread on this one. Who's
missing is always a question, and I don't like to
ask everybody, and that says I'm gonna go over the outfields,

(49:37):
all right, Bobby of Bray, you Lenny Dykstra, Ritchie Ashburn
third base, and is Mike Schmidt, Jimmy Rollins at shortstop?
Second baseman, Chase Sutley, Ryan Howard is your first basement
starting pitcher Steve Carleton. Your relief guy is Tug McGraw,
catcher Darren Dalton, d h Brice Harper. And your manager

(49:58):
is Charlie Manuel. All right, who's missing?

Speaker 8 (50:03):
Man?

Speaker 9 (50:03):
Love Charlie Manuel, Greg Lozinski. Come on, where's the like
in the outfield? Big McBride man eighty one team or
some guys man.

Speaker 8 (50:13):
Pink Rose, you know he's a Philly.

Speaker 9 (50:20):
Yeah, uh funny, Yeah, yeah, yeah, one, I think those
are my guys.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
He got three, all right, Cassy.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
You forgot Jim. You forgot Jim Tomay and you will yep,
you forgot about Bob boone. You forgot about Bob.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
We got other people on here. You guys are okay,
but all right good.

Speaker 7 (50:45):
And then Jim and and also Pat Burrow.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I mean, all right, all right, anyone, I don't worry.
I don't want to play. Go ahead, Georgian.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
Oh what about Dela Hanty? You guys remember Dela Hanty
on the Phillies. No, okay, you did you say? You
said Chase Sutley already? Did you?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
At least?

Speaker 8 (51:18):
Yeah, Chase was on the Yeah, he was on the
starting team. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
Man, Manny trio, Manny Trio was done.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
You want you got a golfing.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
I'm done.

Speaker 8 (51:28):
I'm done, all.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Right, Verry, I don't know how many are left because
these guys stole them.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
All right.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
Well, I mean you got to have Luzinski in there.
When he was in his prime. He was probably more
feared than than uh than Schmidt. He was as far
as then about a three or four year period. I
know what Warren and I played with both of those
guys at the same time. And you know, Bull was
Bull was the power guy of both leagues there for

(51:56):
about three years. So I couldn't have a team there
that they won the World Series with loss, and we
promptly had gone to another World Series if we did
take him out of left field the night and he
was out there in the ball behind him. So uh yeah,
but I like Bullet. You know, it was part of
the all time too.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Greg was a heck of a player, that's for sure. Okay,
can did you say how about cole Hammil's.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
And Roberts.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Cole Hambledon.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
Roberts.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Well, you know there you go, all right, go ahead, Warren?

Speaker 8 (52:36):
That was that was That was Warren's trump card man.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Well, one of my favorite people that I was ever
around in baseball was Tony Taylor. T t was the greatest,
you know, very.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Really great great guy, great great baseball man.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yes, yeah, he was. He was special. So he's he's
my one one that was left off. He's he's got
to be in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
All Right, I'm gonna throw something really off the wall
here and I'll tell you what this is about us
off the wall as you can get not an off
time great player, but he's an all time great story.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
His name is von Hayes. Everybody von Hayes.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
On here, because when I went to Jack Russell Stadium
and one of these Phillies, people went out there, Hey,
Von Hey, blah blah blah, and they gave this guy
a hard time. Everybody said that Steve Carl wouldn't talk.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Is my man?

Speaker 1 (53:37):
People, I went, I went out, I need to talk
to this guy, and he was nice enough to give
you an interview. Turns freight trading. And if that isn't
good enough, let's have Dallas Greene who managed these guys.

Speaker 8 (53:47):
Right, Dallas Cream.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
But wait a minute, train you want to get off
on time? Let me finish. Okay, Well, that's sorry. But
von Hayes, I think it was trading like five or
six people for one. And boy, I'll tell you Berry,
when you have lofty expectations out there, don't believe.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
Well.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
And by the way, let's not forget about the fact
that Willie Hernandez and what was his name, Bergman? We're traded, Yeah,
Dave Bergman, we're traded, but we're not putting them on there.
But Von Hayes and Dallas great all right, Clark, we
got enough time to let you go out there and
say what you need to say about your book.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (54:29):
Was it wasn't Rothie Jackson at Philadelphia? A was he?

Speaker 5 (54:37):
He?

Speaker 7 (54:37):
He was a Philadelphia for a second there.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Then promote the books. You got to pick up your kids?

Speaker 8 (54:45):
Yeah, Hey you can.

Speaker 9 (54:46):
Hey, everyone, you can find me a Trent at leadership
dy dot com. Uh please email me anytime my cell
phones forty seven one zero three seven one two.

Speaker 8 (54:55):
Give me a call. If you're a moron, I will
block you.

Speaker 9 (54:59):
I did write this book leading winning Teams, and I
do have a podcast called Winners Find a Way, and
you can find on all the major networks. I'm always
thrilled to be on the baseball shows with the MotorCity
mad Mouth and this talented group.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Well you're on him and we're glad to have you.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
All right, we'll see you in two weeks from and
I enjoy your Thanksgiving Trent, and he's safe picking up
your kid.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
But we'll be back on two weeks.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
All right, Now there are six and now we will
talk about a no hitter, and that's this. The no
hitter of the night is Matt Kane throws a perfect
game on June thirteenth, twenty twelve, and the first in
Giant's history. Okay, your thoughts on this one.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Laurren, What a thrill. Couldn't have him to a greater picture?
You know, he started kind of having a tough time,
and he rechained, he re vamped his workout program and
what he did to prepare himself. And this was one
of the first times that since he changed ito routine

(56:01):
that he'd pitched and he throws a perfect game. You know,
it was it was great, you know, and I was fortunate.
I was listening to the last couple of innings. I
was coaching junior college baseball at the time, and we
had a night class on a Monday night or Tuesday night,
whatever day it was, and went over to local restaurant
and got to see the last couple of innings. What

(56:22):
a thrill. Great for a great for a San Francisco icon.
Just it was an all time great pitcher for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Okay, Candy, this.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Fight already having thirteen no hitters in franchise history, no
Giants pitcher had ever thrown a perfect game until Cain
Caine struck out fourteen batters in his quest for perfection,
tying Sandy Kofax for the most strikeouts in a perfect
game since nineteen hundred. Eleven of his fourteen strikeouts came

(56:56):
on fastballs, seven of which were of the looking variety.
What a what a performance. I mean, anytime you are
a no hitter but yet a perfect game. Those are
so rare. I've never actually seen a perfect game myself,
but kudos to him.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I nearly saw them with Dave's teve.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
If it wasn't for a stupid rocket Cleveland Municipal Stadium,
I would have done it. Oh my god, I'm glad
they knocked that place down. That cost me a history
very much.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
Oh good. You know, had great stuff. He threw a
lot of fastballs up in his zone, which would make
him really effective today because the guys can't hit the
ball above their waist anymore. But yeah, he had good stuff.
Not shocking that he threw a no hitter. Pretty shocking
to strike out fourteen in the perfect game, but he
did have really good stuff.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
George, Yeah, I don't remember too much about that game,
but it says that Melkie Cabrera made a running catch
at the wall and left few top of the sixth inning,
and also Gregor blancole made a diving catch in right
center field to start the top of the seventh. So

(58:10):
you know, every time there's a no hitter or a
perfect game, you know you're always going to have several
outstanding plays. So this obviously had that as well. Big
crowd on hand to forty two thousand and hats off
to a really good mPire and now we're retired. Ted
Barrett was behind the plate for this game, and but
hats off to this was he was a good pitcher.
I really liked him.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
Well, he's got Milky Cabrera and Gregor Blanco to thank
for making all that possible. So but you know, Matt
Can that day was just you know, it was just
one of those days where he was just on every
pitch he threw was just unhittable. I mean, it was.
It was one of those moments too. It was actually
a year after Jonathan Jonathan Sanchez threw a no hitter
of his own, but you know the fact that he

(58:53):
had a perfect game, you know, it was just it
was just unbelievable, and the fact that you know, he
was able to do that and put himself in baseball
in baseball, Laura is just some terrific in and of itself.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
You know what bottom line is is Giant's got a
perfect game out of it. Detroit nearly got one with
Armando Galarraga. They still don't have one, but hopefully he'll
get one one of these days.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
It was quite an accomplishment from that came, for sure.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
And now as time goes on, Barry and Warren, I'm
gonna be mentioning more and more no hitters.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
This one just stood out.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
So I love mentioning no hitters because we all know
full well there a big part of the game. All Right,
we're gonna do a little change of pace and let's
talk about it. On September fourteenth, the movie Hardball gets released.
Any recollections of Hardball?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Did you like that movie? Warren?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
I never saw it. I can't never get Okay, No,
I can't comment on that.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
No big deal, Candy, I did not see I don't
think I've seen that one either.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
What about you, Berry, No, I gotta pass.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
You're not the only one to be passing on this,
all right, George, did you see it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
All?

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
I never saw.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Sorry, I thought you're the one person's gonna research it.
Even if you didn't a movie.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Is this really a movie?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Yeah? It was?

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Okay, here you go. The budget was thirty two million
and they grossed forty four point one million on that movie.
Very successful movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, somebody's gonna sound smart on this panel because I
didn't see it either, So nobody. You can't gonna bail
us out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Of this one.

Speaker 7 (01:00:34):
Sorry. I know of the movie, but I never I
never saw it. I mean, try a try Bull, Durham
or Major League instead.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
There you go, all right, I hope, well that was good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Sorry, people, we don't know a lot about hardball, but
we're playing hardball with our answers. He goes, You know,
I I can't admit I can't sit in a movie theater.
And I've been told how many times it shut up,
Georgia out and Noby do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I've been kicked out of the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Field because I get to fidgety, and poor Candy's never
been in with me. So because I'm a result of
some you know, fidgety, high energy behavior in there, because
I think these movies too loud, and all of a sudden,
a lot of people, regardless of what they're doing in
the movie theater, don't like the way. I'm thinking that
they're doing other business. And I don't want to come
into the TMI information, But go ahead there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
I was I was gonna. I was gonna say, though
it's hard, it's hard for me to picture you in
a movie theater.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
That's why you watch them at home. People.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
And as a matter of fact, I think I know what.
As a matter of fact, I know another reason for
you why you don't like Cleveland Municipal Stadium because you
were probably because you were probably freezing right next to
right next to the lake.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Now, actually I wasn't at that time. It was in
July or August, and that stupid stone was at second base.
I'll never forget it. Dave Steve had this thing going
right in the ninth Dinny, when do you think the
pollockets had.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Stone and in the right field.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Oh my god, there goes my place of history. Oh well,
that is what it is. But we're not playing hardball.
And I a lot of us didn't know the only
one that was close enough to smart those records to
at least research it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
But Carnball gets released.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I guess Katie maybe will have to go ahead and
watch it one of these times.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And I consist still not to other sports stuff. All right,
we'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
We have a couple of nine forts topics of the night,
and some more baseball ones to go to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
But get this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Once upon a time, Albert Einstein was offered the presidency
people of Israel in nineteen fifty nine, but he declined,
Oh my gosh, I'll tell you where did he come
up with that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Where all my sources are? What are your thoughts, Warren?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Albert Einstein didn't want to be president of Israel in
nineteen fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
WHOA that would have been great for him? You know
where would they be today?

Speaker 8 (01:02:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Tell him?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Great answer? And I like that and her uncle Warre.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
When Israel President Shame Wiseman died in nineteen fifty two,
Einstein was asked to be Israel's second president, but he declined,
stating that he yet neither the natural ability nor the
experience to deal with human beings. He wrote, I am
deeply moved by the offer from our state of Israel.

(01:03:10):
So he knew that he was not a people person
and not a political person. So smart man in more
ways than one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Well, Barry, what's your take on this one?

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
He was too smart to take that job. I agree
that that's a tough, tough job, and it still is
a tough job.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah, okay, great answer, Okay, George, Well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
He actually died in nineteen fifty five, so he took
he didn't take the job, but he didn't have that
many more years left. I did not know that right
after they turned that down a couple of years and
he was and he had died. But what can you say.
I mean, this guy is such a genius. I mean,
there's incredible, incredible smarts. I mean, this guy is a

(01:03:58):
phenomenal leader. I'm sure they would have done very very
well with him. Uh but uh, you know, that's his
decision he made. It wasn't for him, he said, Eric.

Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure like Albert, oh, Albert Einstein
showed showed how human he is like everyone everyone else,
because some days we don't want to deal with people.
But the but the they but you know, it's I
did not know that about him. But yeah, good, I
mean he was in hindsight, it was probably good good
at him to do that, just because he wasn't uh
you know, he didn't have he didn't have much much,

(01:04:30):
much much much to give afterward. But yeah, as far
as him not wanting to deal with people, I can't
say I blame him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Some days, the man was in his dinner, That's all
I have to say. He was, he was doing other stuff,
but more power to him. At least he was offered
the job anyway. So that's why I made the show tonight.
I wanted to have something lighthearted. As one of my
co hosts on Saturday's Gabriel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Gave. Gabriel Garcia said, it's a change of pace topics.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
So all right, well we're gonna go we're gonna talk
about a little bit of footwear tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Okay, We're not going ice. They're gonna go footwear tonight,
which is and that's sense. Okay. Check get this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Checkers was founded by Robert Greenberg in nineteen ninety two.
He just left La Geary company he also started after
it elapsed his plan. His plan this time was simple,
focus on casual, comfortable shoes for everyone. In the beginning,
Checkers didn't design its own its own products. They sold

(01:05:31):
actually Doctor Mertens as a distributor. They launched a shoe
of their own called the Chrome Dome Boot. It became
a hit and Greenberg didn't chase trends. He focused on
affordable everyday shoes. Well Nike and Adida's targeted athletes, Sketchers
went after they average consumer. All right, Warren, what are

(01:05:51):
your thoughts about the Sketcher's brand.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Well, it's all I've I've never worn a pair, but
all I've heard is good things about it. You know,
that's apparently they're good. They're good for your feet. You know,
our feet are very very important, Katie.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
So I've I've said this before. I'm on my feet
a lot during the day, and uh years ago, I
did not wear Sketchers, and I had issues with my legs,
my knees, my feet bothering me when I would come home.
Since I have switched to Sketchers, I no longer have

(01:06:32):
any of those issues, at least at this point. So
as far as I'm concerned, they're a very good shoe.
They're very comfortable, They're easy to get in and out of.
One of the things I like like obviously you just
you can literally just step right into the shoe, so
you're not having to bend down touch a shoe if

(01:06:54):
it's wet or dirty, if it you know, if it's
the rain or if it would be the snowy season.
So for that reason, and that makes it very easy,
Like if you're going to visit somebody's house, so many
people don't want you to wear their your shoes in
their house. It makes it very easy to take them
on and off and very quickly quickly as well.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Very if Candy indorses them, I'm good. And if Howie
Long endorses them, I'm good. So I'm a sketch. I
don't ever wear them. I don't have the schedules. I'm
good with them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Thanks, very very I'll tell you Holly log is pretty good,
is it he?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Oh yeah, George, that was good.

Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
Arry.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
I'll tell you you're doing good at the broadcasting everything with
your right low ki sing, you're out love you man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
You know that we've been doing this some years.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I'll tell you you're the best. Maybe you get to
my answer afterwards, go ahead, just.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
To back you up a little bit more Candy, now
that you needed any backup. But some patry it is
recommend certain sketchers my models, particularly those with their art
fit technology, while others are hesitant about many of their
standard models due to a lack of support. But the
recommendation is there, and you're right, Kiff Candy, I'm glad

(01:08:13):
it worked out for you. It was it was something
that helped you out with your constant walking and on
your job and everything. So I'll take it from you.
And then also, like I said, the pediatrists that they
talked to at Sketchers, and they've got a lot of
them that they talked to. Obviously when the designs are happening,

(01:08:33):
they recommend that as one of the best shoes around.
I'll stand by that. I've never had fair, but I'll
stand by that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Maybe I'll send you my hand me down so I
can have excuses to get new ones. I'll drive the
bookkeeper in the family crazy. I say that ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
Well, I know.

Speaker 7 (01:09:00):
I mean, I've heard nothing. I owned a parrot, heard
nothing but good things about it. I mean, if Joe
Montana likes him, I guess I can like him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yeah, yeah, Well, the bookkeeper of the group knows I
have a lot of them. I should own stocking those things.
I have a lot of them because I like the
different colors depending on what I use every day. And
I got to I have a lot of Sketcher Pact.
But we'll spread the sketcher who walked around all the
different shows, and that Bob just went down.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
But it was pretty cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
I'll tell you one thing, Catcher's and my raggedy knees
worked out pretty good. All right, Well, let's talk about
one more intro stat. He set the single season record
for the most hits at two hundred and sixty two
in a season in two thousand and four by breaking
Hall of Famer George Sissler's eighty four year old record

(01:09:48):
two fifty seven and nineteen twenty. All right, Warren, what
else can we say about Intro?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Yeah, it's a great hitter. You know, he was a
single speed was his game. Hit the ball and run.
You know, he could probably hit a ground ball to
hopper at a second base and beat it out, you know.
So he he had a great career and uh, you know,
the Hall of Famer. You know, I can't say enough
about him. He was a great player, Candy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
You know again, he he won seven consecutive batting titles.
You know, just a great all around hitter. Could put
put the ball wherever he wanted, you know, hit hit
it where it was pitched, and then run as quickly
as he can. He had a lot of speed on
the base, which made it which helped him. He wasn't

(01:10:37):
afraid to bunt like he wherever he needed to. However
he needed to get on he could, so kudos very well.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
It's a great a great hitter, and mean he was
also a great outfielder with a great arm, so he
was the all around player. I think he's in the
Hall of Fame in Japan and here, and I think
I hate even say that. Overall. I think he had
more hits and rows total in two leagues. But Pete
still the hit lader in my opinion. But you know,

(01:11:11):
it just shows to show you what a great hitter
he was. The question about it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
It's interesting that Barry, that we have him on the
same show. In addition to talking Tony Gwynn and I
mentioned Ted Williams. He talked about three of the best
hitters of all time. We had three of them that
we talked about tonight, Georgia.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
Yeah, that's in a tremendous achievement. It says that you know,
he had two hundred hits in each of his first
four seasons in the MLB, but of course we know
he had great stances. As you mentioned Barry and we've
mentioned before when he was still playing in Asia. But yeah,
this guy was phenomenal. And I mean to be able

(01:11:48):
to break George Sister, that's a name way back in
the past baseball greats, and he finished it, says three
seventy two that year. Can you imagine three seventy two
in that year that he set that record, which was
two hundred and sixty two hits. Unbelievable, great hitter, great
great guy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Eric.

Speaker 7 (01:12:10):
I mean, you know each I remember, you know, I
rememberhen Ichio first came into the league and he broke
and he broke that record. But yeah, he's a Hall
of Famer. He's very deserving of it. I think he
was the truth. I think he was the first superstar
in Major League Baseball from Japan. So we're all raving
about Tommy now, but but Ichiro was essentially doing it
before it was cool.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Sure, a heck of a player.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
That's why that so much time on everybody to appreciate
the greatness that e Tiro brings in. And the future
shows we're going to talk about some Japanese players that
are going to be coming out. So and I have
two more top going to get you just to get
rid of and over you. We're going to talk about
the future series. We're going to talk about umpires, We're
going to talk about no hitters as well as a

(01:12:52):
lot of the abs things that will be coming out
coming forward.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
In twenty twenty six. So he'll stay tuned. More topics
to get to.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
We started with a Hall of Famer and we're gonna
have three more than we're going to talk about. Let's
talk about in fact that Bob Getson pitched more complete
games two hundred and fifty five than he had wins
to fifty one. Had Bob Feller to the list two
hundred and sixty six wins and he had two hundred
and seventy nine complete games, Warren, these are pretty good players.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Right, Yeah, and that was back in the day when
people when pitchers pitched complete games.

Speaker 7 (01:13:26):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
I remember talking to Robin Roberts one day and he
had twenty seven complete games in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I mean that just it's amazing. But that's what those
guys did. I remember as a little boy listening to
the opening day one Marichelle and Bob veal fifteen innings
and Wren spawning one Marichelle right hooked up and went
fifteen innings. There was nothing for a starting pitcher, you know.
I was fortunate to pitch be a starting pitcher in

(01:13:56):
the minor leagues for two years, and I looked at
it as I got to play everything day. I'm going
to play as long as I can. So I had
complete I had twenty seven starts one year in nineteen
complete games, and the other year I had like twenty
five starts and eighteen complete games something, you know, because
I wanted to play the whole game. I didn't. I
wasn't coming out. Managerd come out. I'm not coming out.

(01:14:17):
I did not until the game's decided. I'm not leaving
the field. I have what word for you? Warren cheers.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yeah, I instantly missed that stuff these days. Candy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
By the way, one guy we forgot to mention with
the Phillies is Jim Bunny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Yeah, yeah, my agent.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
He was my agent.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Oh was he really? Yeah? Okay, well Jim Bunny's in Candy.
I didn't know that he was an agent.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
I mean, complete games are a thing that is has
gone by the wayside. With analytics. They don't let people
stay in for complete games. So These are stats that
are gonna stand the test of time, and kudos to them,
because it takes a lot for a pitcher to dominate all.

(01:15:09):
Let's face it, everybody, the analytics say the third time
up through the batting lineup, the hitters have the advantage
at that point. And so for these pitchers to have
pitched complete games and gone through the lineup, you're talking
three four times in a complete game, kudos to them.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
Ry Well, I got to face Gibson early in my
career and he was at his He didn't have the
kind of stuff he had when he was really good.
I did see him pitch in seventy one when he
was still really good. That was from the stands in Montreal.
But yeah, he was unbelievable. You know Feller, I actually

(01:15:54):
called Feller, but it was in the minor leagues and
he was thrown out in the first pitch and I
was the manager, so I didn't realize. You know, he
was a surly sort of guy. He had a little
bit of issues with the guys making money, and that
was before they really started making money, and he didn't

(01:16:14):
have a chance to make that kind of money, and
he was making the circuits going around for whatever. They
paid him three or four hundred dollars a night to
come out and throw out some first pitches. But he
was a war hero and and we missed about I
think three or four of prime prime seasons where he
was going to win twenty games a year. So he's

(01:16:35):
a he's a special guy and bunny. When I was
coming up, Warren he was a manager in the Phillips organization,
so I saw. I played against him in double A ball,
so I got to see a lot of those guys
that when you when you're old and play a long time,
you see a lot of guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Right soar And by the way, Barry, you talk about Philler,
I actually got this time one with the Gastonia Rangers,
and he was a good friend of a guy who
had the name of Jack Barns when we were both
in the South Atlantic Ly, I think, weren't you managing
Myrtle Beach.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
At the time? I was, yeah, and you won a
championship over there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
My Castonia Rangers had all these players that lost ninety
some odd games.

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
They have, you know, they had Sosa, Rodriguez and Palmer,
they had three really good I remember writing up the
reports that year and saying, these guys got some great
potential prospects here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Yeah, and there were potential to the point where they
lost ninety some games. And I was their director of
public relations. And what happened was the owners didn't want
to spend money on a bag of dirt the last
game of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
That's what I was up against.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
I tell and Sammy Soso would go out there and
tell the lady, Nino you Cheapnina, you cheap, and sham I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Used to hang out all the time. Yeah, but yeah,
I forgot you were ready to report.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
Yeah that that was a bad ballpark too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Yeah, Sim's Legion Park was terrible, wasn't it. Very Those
locker rooms are awful. I think you have a new
one in Gastonia in someplace, But that was terrible. But
only you and I could remember that one.

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
Played there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
My first year in pro ball. Yeah, Lynn Barker fitched
for Gastonia that year and at the end of the season,
they brought people into to check the lights to see
if they put a meter on the lights in it,
and it didn't register.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
I believe, well, you know, I did play by play there.
If that's worth anything for American Legion games. I mean
that press box was a terrible I mean it was.
There's nothing good about since other the fact that they
hit a hurricane. He would stay there because you have
all those wooden big walls and you stuck advertising signs
on him. But yeah, still, okay, guy Born, you got

(01:18:58):
Barry and I played in that. But are we proud
of it?

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
Go ahead, George, Well, not only did he seven times
he won, he completed twenty or more games seven times
in his career. Bob Gibson been five times. He had
twenty or more wins in a season. With these our pitchers,
we're not going to see like this anymore, unfortunately, with
the game changing so much. But Bob Feller to another

(01:19:29):
great guy. Obviously the Tigers hated him because he won
so much and made Cleveland such a great team. I
really really think though, that Bob Gibson was just an
incredible pitcher, and you know, just just a great career.
Anytime you can win that many games, in that many
complete games, it's phenomenal. Just a phenomenal pitcher.

Speaker 7 (01:19:50):
Eric Well, Well, here, since you're talking about that sims
Lesion field, here, I am thinking thinking of the concrete
dump in Montreal was bad. But the but yep, but
you know it's uh, you know, complete games are kind
of a lost art nowadays. I mean I remember at one,
you know, I think the last guy in today's game
who did it, who did it regularly was was Sandy Alcatara,

(01:20:14):
who had I think seven complete games one year. But
you know, nowadays, I think teams kind of live within
their fears about pictures getting heard. You know, analytics has
factored in two about teams just going right to their
fullpen and I just think that it's it's been, it's done.
The it hasn't really helped the pictures. It's actually done
the opposite. It's hurt them more than helped. And you know,

(01:20:34):
it's just it's just unfortunate. But that's just the way
the game has gone, you know, as they've kind of
gradually scaled back innings.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Okay, all right, final Top of the night.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
On November sixteen, twenty ten, Roy Holliday Halliday wins the
second Sign You On award of his career. He becomes
a fifth pitcher to win the award in both leagues.
All Right, I tell you what thing. We go back
to Philadelphia and Toronto. What a player. I tell you,
I miss Roy Halladay big time. He talk about a workhorse,
warn this guy was it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Yes, well, I mean the biggest thing about him was
he struggled. He had. I believe that he still holds
the record for the highest era UH in the season.
It was like a ten forty three something like that.
And they sent him all the way back to a
ball the next year to be with one of the
pitching coaches that he came up with, and they dropped
his arm angled down and the rest was history. After that,

(01:21:27):
he was just lights out. It's whatever they did really
worked for him. And he went on to have a great,
great career and the only one of the few that
win Cy Young in both both leagues and throw no
hitters in both leagues. I believe he to one in Toronto.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Yeah, he's, like I said, what did I say, become
the fifth pitcher to win the award both leagues. I
think you're right about that too. I go with that Candy.
Of course, if I don't know, Sugar, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
She'll know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
I'm looking it up. You don't you put me earlier
in the lineup? Can't get all my crack research done
in Times got here. He was drafted seventeenth overall by
the Blue Jays. In nearly his second career start, he
nearly pitched a no hitter, but then he struggled, he

(01:22:21):
was demoted, and then he worked himself back up. Yeah,
the he won his American League. He won the Cy
Young Award in two thousand and three and in twenty ten.
So yes, two thousand and three would have been with
the Blue Jays, twenty ten with the Phillies. He's eight
time All Star. Pitched a postseason no hitter on October six,

(01:22:47):
twenty ten, the perfect Game. On May twenty ninth, twenty ten,
he's retired. Both his numbers retired, both for Toronto and
the Phillies.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Very How would you like to have taught him?

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
Well, it would have been fun. He was a great picture,
no question about it. And uh, you know, I knew
some guys that were in the Blue Jays organization. Dave
la Roach is a minor league pitching coach, and he
just thought he raved about what a good person. He
was not only a good picture, but was very you know,
just a great guy on the ball club.

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
Yeah, a little George, So doc Why did he get
called Doc Holliday. Well, here's the story behind that. Real quickly,
Blue Jays announced Tom Cheek was referencing the old wild
West gunslinger Doc Holliday, and so that's where he got
the name nicknamed Doc. But yeah, what a great picture.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:23:46):
Again, his life was cut short by a terrible accident
and he died. And but he really really was a
great Toronto and Philly uh picture, just you didn't want
to go up against him. Let me tell you, he
had he had great stuff and and certainly stands the
test of time. Has been one of the Baseball's greatest
as far as pitching goes. And I I really admired

(01:24:09):
his work.

Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
Eric, I mean, top three pitcher of my generation, hands down.
I mean with the with the Blue Jays and the Phillies.
He was just he you know, he was the best.
I mean, obviously it was very for it was very
tragic what happened to him. But it's but he's a
hall you know, he's you know, he's a Hall of
Famer for a reason. Best picture of my generation. And
if I'm honest, taking you threw a no hitter in
the postseason, which hadn't been done since Bob Feller through

(01:24:34):
his perfect game in the World Series for the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Well, you know what's the only thing that we talked about,
Gibson and Feller.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
I wanted to have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Roy Halliday as a conversation as well, because they don't
get out to him tonight. For meanwhile, that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Does it for this addition one hundred eight sich as
baseball Talk. But we're not done yet. Well, we're gonna
let everybody get everybody now they get a hold of him,
we'll do one more station break and we're also going
to sell everybody. There will be no show nips Monday nights.
So all we ask you to do is have a
great Thanksgiving. Great thanks Giving. We can enjoy the family
and friends and the food out there, and maybe George

(01:25:10):
and Iland get something on Thanksgiving that we're hoping that
Candy Ebling won't like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
And that's the winner of the Green bayly knows who
you needed after last night, help me to help the Bears.
I let me be all you get you before I
getting her doghouse.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
I can be reached at Brewster forty at brewster forty
at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
There Candy ready to have me showing it, Drew.

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
You can, Yeah, she's giving you the look and you
know she you can follow. You can follow me on
my Twitter account at sports News, and you can check
out my blog at a sports dot com where I'm
where I'm writing about all things Milwaukee Brews. And if
you think I don't like your team, I probably don't
you like That's exactly I read about.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Him, and now he's writing for us. Great stuff, Eric, Okay,
go ahead, George.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
Yeah. You can find me in the pages of the
South Florida Tribune on the web, and I write into
the contributors section also locally in Detroit for the Downtown
Detroit Monitor, and I have a book out there Detroit
Sports Broadcasters on the Air. Thank you Candy for putting
that picture up. And Scott is mentioned in the book
as well as Gordie holl and lk Line. And don't

(01:26:25):
forget these great announcers. We had the Ernie Harwell, Paul Carey,
Ray Lane, the late Ray Lane who just died this
past one month ago. So yeah, and you can reach
me at gikrone Yahoo dot com and an ex Twitter
at Sanji Sports ninety nine. I'm also on LinkedIn and
Facebook and all that other fun stuff. So great to

(01:26:46):
be part of the show again tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Thank you, right I, we'll turn it over to Candy
Well our final station breaking whatever else you want today
add too it because she's bowing as a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
You know, I find it ironic they both you and
my boss, who root for two different teams other than mine,
but my team is playing both them in the upcoming
that they think that you guys are gonna win. You
know what, if you're going to brag about it that hmm,
the proof will be on the field. Let's put it

(01:27:18):
that way. We already beat you once, Scott, so we'll
see how it goes in the second time around.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
On the National State called the Eye of the Candy
not the Eye of the Tiger.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Ahead but as.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Far as South Florida Publishing Company published a book, Lessons
in the Microphone, Tuning into the enduring Wisdom of Visionary Leaders.
It is written by our host, Scott the MotorCity mad
Mouth Morgan. If you if you've liked any of the
stories that he's told so far, go read the book.

(01:27:52):
You think he was hard on me, you should read
the book about one of his teachers and what he
did to one of his teachers. So good book to
find out out. So George Korn also wrote the forward.
It's available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Kindle, Google, and
Apple Books. There is also a link on our website
www dot Self Floridatribune dot com, where there is a

(01:28:14):
plethor of great content. Yes, Scott writes for us, Eric
writes for us, and George also writes for us, so
go check out their articles. I put pictures up there
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(01:28:35):
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(01:29:14):
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Speaker 7 (01:29:17):
Back to you, Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
I want to thank everybody on the group here, Trent Clark,
of course, Warren Brewster and my uncle Warren out and Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Now I have a reason becoming to MAUI. Oh my god,
I can't believe there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I gotta get there now. I got to get her there.
That's only we didn't hit what we were out there before.
And Eric Kats my student, and George and Barry. What
can I say about you guys? Are you guys are great?

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Well? Love all you people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
I'll love all these people on this network that we've accumulated.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Barry, and how I feel about you man? That goes
without saying taitting our back to the days in your
little days of LA. We're just learning our trade. So
what can I say?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
My favorite, my favorite penata. Okay, So thank.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Youvery much, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
I hope everybody has a great Thanksgiving and we'll be
back Tuesday, two weeks from tonight here one hundred eighty
its is Baseball Talk. We will have an episode of
Talking Baseball this Saturday, so I hope you can join
us there. So we have to try Clark, Warren Brewster,
Candy Ebling, Eric Katz for Jay Corn and last but
not least, the greatest entrepreneurial and excellent baseball player on
the planet, Bairyfoot and somebody ever really feels like a

(01:30:25):
close friend of mine for a year. Fairy Foot, and
I thank you very much for joining us. We'll see
in two weeks Auntie. Thanksgiving everybody. Until then we'll have
more baseball a come in your way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Good night, everybody,

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