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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hello, everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Second half our doubleheader, Professor to Peopil started the bad
boy off one hundred eight stitches.

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I don't know, but.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
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Friday that you don't have to have throat surgery, they
don't have form this with my learrins. Now that's okay
with me. Then I can go out there and go loud,
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
Off to my right, my manager, Mickey, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
To the Yes talking baseball with the motor. My debut's
got a lot of great stuff. Wind up with that show. Hey,
who's our next target? Is that Jim Riggleman, is he our.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Next Yeah, I think we're gonna try to get Jim
on and uh, you know him. When you hear this
guy talk baseball, you're gonna be very impressed. He is.
He is top notch.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Eric, you might just be lucky little my boy. Should
he come on at the end of August, you might
just be on it on their one us so's that're.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Good, Tod break good, I know what. Jim Riggleman, is
he better to?

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Well, you know, everybody, don't even gore.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I know what.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I'm here to see the kids thirty years of age
and have the baseball like you you do, really seriously,
really that you should.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Probably you should ask him about the Boguire Sosa Summer
of ninety eight.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
He was in that dugout.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, we got to keep it real here, we'll see.
I don't know what's gonna happen on that show that
we have so many different ideas of that show.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
And off to Mickey's right is the one and only
Kandy Ebling, the jack of old trades, whether she's controller, statistician,
web designer, Candy.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Is back and thanks.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's great to be here and the guy I was.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Talking to, my boy, Eric Katz.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Thank you, Scott. Good good to good to be back now.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I spent the last few days at Mickey Cowaway's old workplace,
Progressive Field.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And you know what Eric has in common with Stuart.
Their last name is only four letters. And we have
Stuart Hacker, resident New York.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Are out there.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm known Stuart forever anyway, He's one guy. I really
we go back with Peter Wing. Great memories for Stuart.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'd have you back on the night.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Thanks Scott.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
And last but not least, we got Rob and Ro.
I mean, this guy's all over the place I worked.
I work him hard, I really do.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
Hey, listen, it's great to be back.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, Well, have a lot to get to tonight. Ever,
have a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I don't even know where to start. So I'll start
somewhere and we'll just pick him off here. You know,
we'll start at the top. Captain America Aaron Judge will
lead Team USA and the twenty twenty six w all right, Stiff,
what do you think about Captain America being at the
World Peaceball class.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Well, when I started reading your note, your notes, I
thought we were talking about David Wright for a minute,
so I gotta get used to this new nickname for Judge.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
But no, I love it, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
He the fans are really embraced this WBC every year
in my opinion, I I really enjoy watching it or
every four years or whenever it comes out. But it
is awesome to see the big stars playing in this
type stuff. That's what this uh, that's what we need,
you know, especially if the position players, you know, it's

(04:01):
the same thing as spring training for them. It's a
little tougher on some of the real high end pitchers
to go out there, but it sounds like we're going
to get some I think I read or Paul Schemes
might be pitching in it. So you know, anytime we
get to showcase, you know, our best players in the
world against other best players in the world and all
of these countries really embracing their teams. I love seeing

(04:24):
that stuff. So I love that Aaron Judge is going
to be Captain America and and kind of heading up
our WBC team.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
All right, Candy, this is not to the call on
you last when we need you to laugh, but you're
okay with.

Speaker 8 (04:39):
This early, So this is the first time he's going
to be participating in the World Baseball Classic. He was
also the first one to be announced.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Now.

Speaker 8 (04:50):
He previously had declined back in twenty twenty three, but
that was due to some other commitments he had, including
his free agency and being named Yankees upon I think
it's cool.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
I like them getting involved in playing for Team USA
in the World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Okay, well, obviously it's very exciting on my end though,
to see to see Era Judge a member of this team.
I know that the Team USA have been trying for
a long time to try and get them, but obviously
he first time around went ass just because you know, again,
he had he had just signed the contract, had just
become the captain and everything that comes along with that,

(05:34):
and and on top of that.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Dealing with dealing with the crazy expectations of playing in
New York City. But I'm happy he's there.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
I think it's great for the sport. You got, you
know you're getting, You're truly getting the world's best this
time around. I felt like that was kind of even
though last year was good, I felt like we really
didn't have the world's best. I think this year, we're
finally getting it with Paul Skeeames, who was clearly the
best pitcher in the National League, cal Raw I think,
easily the best catcher in the league, and you got
Aaron Judge, who the best best all around player in

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the league. I think it's I think it's great for
the sport. And the awesome part about the WBC SCUY
is you see different styles of play, you know, you
know Japan, they're very fundamentally sound. They're so fundamentally sound,
it's not uncommon see them fun and land it with
two strikes. So I think it's gonna be cool. It's
gonna be great to see.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
The world's best on the on the big day, especially
early in the season.

Speaker 9 (06:28):
Sure, you know, I see the allure of it, you know,
for baseball, and the players are definitely on board with this.
As a met fan, I'm a little less than thrilled.
I you know, still wake up screaming to the thoughts
of Edwin Diaz, you know, in the middle of the
night getting hurt in one of these things. I would

(06:48):
rather see this played, say in November. I think when
you do it in March it interferes a little bit
with the players' schedules, they work out regimens, and I
just feel in November, you know, if someone got hurt,
God forbid, it wouldn't be as big a deal. If
someone gets hurt in March and then their season starts late,
and you know they get off to a slow start.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Rob, I agree with Stuart. I was talking to Chris
about this. I think it should be played after the
World Series because of the possibility of injuries. As a
big met guy, we know what happened. Stewart just said it.
We still have nightmares about Diez and I just think
it would be better if it was played after the

(07:32):
World Series in case anything happens. But Judge, of course,
it's great. It's great to have the bigger the name,
the better the game, and Judge playing is great. But
I rather see it after the season than before.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Everybody's playings well taken.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm glad Erin's going to be there, and I'm sure
there'll be a lot more additions that we're talking about.
Since everybody's talking about balls games, get the balls games.
See I'll tell you what. My skipper's already learning already
to get Yeah, anybody that can actually read my writing
already deserves the thumbs up because he's he doesn't complain.
Everybody else complains that. He doesn't say nothing.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
He's complained.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I used an AI software to read it, buddy, and
it's tough. Now.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I know he's getting good at this technology stuff. He
didn't know this stuff earlier. We're trying to make him smarter.
But okay, if you might have to pump my ego
and say you can read it because nobody else doesn't,
I get butchered up with anyone. All right, Well, so yeah, no,
I'm glad Judge is going and everybody talk about Paul Schemes.
Now he's going as well.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
He can't.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
If you're not gonna win anything in Pittsford, you must
at least try to win something. And he's won an
All Star game, you know, even though he didn't get
to win. We actually talked about that a little bit
Saturday on talking day. Well, so all right, skip, let's
talk about Paul Schemes. You know, here's the guy that's
a chance to play with elite players and this will
be he had another opportunity to skip.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
For him to do it.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, you know, I think, just like Aaron Judge, this
is great for for Baseball and the showcase of Baseball.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
To the world.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
You know, these countries, they take this WBC very serious,
and I love that he's going to pitch in it.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
The interesting thing to see will be Aaron Judge against
the you know, lesser countries, and he's going to be
facing some minor league type arms at times. I mean,
I can't even imagine the outcome of that, you know,
and and Paul as well. You know, there's gonna be
most of these lineups, you know, unless you're talking about

(09:34):
the Dominican or or or Venezuela, you know, most of
them are going to have quite a few minor league
type players playing on their team. So it'll be very
interesting to see, you know, some some minor league guys
against Paul Skins and and see how they they produce
against him. So I'm excited to watch it. And you know,

(09:55):
I agree with the other guys that this stuff does
need to be done after the season. But the challenge
is of such a long playoff, you know, run for everybody,
and then you got the World Series and now guys
have taken a month off and they have to heat
back up. I'm not sure which one is more healthy
for these guys, you know. So you know, it's it's

(10:15):
hard to shut them down right after this, right after
September and then bring them back a month later and
ask them to pitch, and and that wouldn't be fair
to them either. So I don't know what to do
with it. I love the the competitiveness and and the
spectacle that it's become and how popular it is. It's

(10:37):
just really tough to kind of weave it into the season.
Maybe we take a week off in the middle of
the season or something, I don't know, or maybe we
play it, you know, right after September with guys that
are running the playoffs. I don't know what the answer is,
but you know, it definitely does need to be at
a different time if we can.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, there's no question you're stuck between a rock and
hard play in that situation there at the end of
the I don't know right now. I think you have
to do at the beginning, whether you like it or not,
because at least they're getting in shape anyways. So I
don't know, but I'm not going to tell you that
I'm one hundred percent confident with that answer.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
But like you, I mean, what are you gonna do.
Can you play it during the middle of the year
and replace it with the All Star Game? I don't know,
but my focus is on Paul Skins. At least he
has a chance to win something with somebody who I
don't think he's gonna get it with a bit of
envirotments anytime soon. So why not happy for Paul? And
of course he got to taste of All Star Baseball
with the Ull Star Game.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
All right, Candy, you know it's it's great for Paul's Skins.
It's great for him to represent his country and from
someone that's watched it when he was young, and Team
USA has struggled to recruit top starting pitchers to pitch
in the WBC in the past, so Skins commitment is

(11:57):
a significant addition. I agree that.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
I don't know, and I don't know if.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
There is a good time, because you know, once you
come around November, you want to rest up. You got
to give your your arm time to rest off season. Uh,
let's face it. In hockey, they they did the Four
Nations instead of the All Star Game, and that was
a big success. Do you put do you do something

(12:25):
like that for baseball? Give you know, like like mikiy Haw,
like you were saying a week off or more, you know,
so you could play something like this. I don't know,
and I don't know what the answer is. But the answer,
but part of it is is yes, you can get
injured in March. You can get injured anytime. You can
get injured walking out the door. Like I mean, if
you're gonna do something like this, you got to commit

(12:47):
to it fully.

Speaker 10 (12:48):
And you know, I like it.

Speaker 8 (12:53):
I like that there is a way for them to
represent their country. I don't know when the right time
would be.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Okay, I mean, you know it's great that I mean.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
The problem is, though, is when even if you were
to do at the end of the year, there's a
chance you're not getting the Stars either, because you know,
you could easily lose the Stars during the season, especially
especially given how prevalent Tommy John surgery has become. As
a matter of fact, you can probably argue it's become
your passport into Major League Baseball.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
But it's you know, it's very difficult to really pick
a day.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
I mean, I think why they do it before the
season is players are already kind of getting ramped up
to begin with that spring training before it starts up.
I mean, you know, the guys who manage these these teams,
they know, they know the deal. They know like you
gotta limit them and things like that, and front offices
obviously have a very big say on who goes and
who does. As a matter of fact, if if a

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player kind of tweaks something in camp and you know
it's even though it's only minor, there's no way they're
sending them out there. So like front offices kind of
have a big say on who goes than who doesn't go.
So it's not not it's not the end of the world.
But you know, doing it after the season is hard
because most people's bodies have had it.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know, that's a that you played like probably.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Gonna guess you know nowadays probably one hundred and thirty
hundred and forty plus plus games providing, providing the bodies healthy.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
But you but you put them back out there after
after all that, wear it care.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
You've got a better chance of getting injured during that time,
especially after being shut down for a month, than you
do if you do it early in the year. So yeah,
you could probably you know, as far as shutting it
the season down for a week. Well, they already kind
of do that with the All Star Game and the
festivities that go along with that, with the home run Derby,
the game and everything that.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Goes along with with the All Star Game.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
So you know, do you really want the World Series
to bleed it any more into November than it already does?

Speaker 4 (14:47):
So, you know, it's it's just tough. Given It's also
part of it too, is the season is just long.
That's just the way it is, all.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Right, So Laric, give me your thoughts about scheme participation
in it.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
I like it, No, I mean, why not have the
best picture in the National League come over? I mean,
he's got an opportunity to win something. I mean, and
see him on to see him on the national stage,
because we weren't going to see him on the national
stage with him presently playing for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Speaker 9 (15:16):
Okay, Stuart, you know it is a tough I would
hope that you know, this staff at the World Baseball
Classic is in touch with these teams, in touch with
Pittsburgh as far as usage, because the Pirates know better
than anyone how this guy should be used. Now as
far as injuries, you know, I look at it if
I'm a businessman and I'm paying Jacob deGrom close to

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forty million dollars a year, I understand he can get hurt.
And if he gets hurt doing something for the Texas Rangers,
that's one thing. But he gets if he gets hurt
doing something that's not for the Rangers, then got to
have a little bit of a problem with because I'm
running a business and it's something that's outside of the
realm of what he's supposed to do for me as

(15:57):
as an employee.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Rob Yeah, well, who who wouldn't want to see Skimes
pitching the World Baseball Classic? Everybody wants to see him pitch.
I think it's It definitely is good.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
I felt like the game was more the tournament was
more important to the other countries than the USA be
course of Major League Baseball. And now they're getting into
it because as the players become closer and closer to
each other and the countries are blending, you know, now
the USA sees how popular it is with the other

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countries and they want to join in that.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
So it's a good thing. Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
On to Derek Jeeter, who was inductive to the Baseball
Hall of Fame with ninety nine point seventy five percent
of the vote, nearly unanimous.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
He should have been unanimous. I wonder why he didn't
get the last twenty twenty five percent skip to me.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Unless it's a Boston guy, Derreck Jeeter should have had
one hundred percent to join Marianno Rovera.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I don't get this.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
One, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think I think there's just always one person out
there that that that knows this guy is going to
be unanimous unless I unless I vote no, and they
do it just for that, you know, I think that
I think that's kind of an intentional thing, and I
don't think it's a malicious thing. I think they hold
those things for the best of the best of the

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best of the best, and you know, I don't really
have a problem with it, because there is some you know,
some some glory behind being a unanimous Hall of Famer,
and I think, you know, maybe I don't know if
there's collusion behind it or what, but I think that
that's kind of in the back of some of the
writer's minds when they vote, and they they make sure

(17:40):
that you know, unless you're Babe Ruth or or somebody
to that caliber, let's let's make sure that they're not unanimous.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
And well, why you sure Sazerk was never voted one
hundred percent goes beyond my wild just imagination. And Babe Ruth, well,
I think I'll have to looked at up. I believe
he was.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
The only player that got in with one hundred percent?
Is marionol Rivera right, So he's the only one that
got one hundred percent of the votes, and that was
back in twenty nineteen, like like they said, Like Mickey said,
I think it just got to the point where he
didn't want somebody else to go in unanimously, so he

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decides someone decided to, you know, withhold the vote. Is
it fair? No, but hey, that's why they vote. They
get a chance they can vote on who they want.
Obviously the identity of that voter is not Nahoon. You know, Scott,

(18:47):
you you've talked to a couple of people before in
the past, and you've talked to someone that have votes now,
and I just find it interesting to listen to their
logic when they're talking about what they used to vote,
what they think about. In fact, I think you've even
had some on your shows that you could you know,
people can go back and listen to But does he

(19:10):
deserve one hundred percent? Who am I to say? I mean,
it's not I didn't get a vote, it's not my opinion.
But is he Hall of Fame worthy? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well, he got one Yankee guy here, right, Eric this one.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I'm sure the guy voted for.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
The guy who did vote for was probably a big
no more Garcia Para Fanel just put the and.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
But you know, I mean, yeah, Mario Rivera is the
only one.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Although let's keep in mind those Babe Ruth Baby Ruth
kind of angered a lot of people during his career,
so you know, let's let's let's keep that in perspective
as well. And back then the grudges were a little
were held a little longer. But you know, as far
as it goes, I mean, I guess some people just
feel as though that maybe there's only really one and

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that just happened to me Maron Rivera. I mean, Ichiro
is surprising though, because Echiro could practically do what he
wanted on a baseball field. He was just playing a
different game from everybody else and was arguably the greatest outfielder,
you know, obviously the greatest outfielder of that time, of
that time frame, I argue he's the best Japanese baseball
player of all.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Time over Otani.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
But it's you know, it's just one of those deals where, gosh,
the Hall of Fame is just just they do things
that you know that we that we kind of scoring
at and but they but they do it because they can.
But you know, as long as you know, long as
person gets in, you know, it saves them, you know,
if they're a lot, they it gives the players an

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opportunity to take a pot shot at them during their
during their induction speeches.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
So I guess it's all for the entertainment value as well.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
That's what it is. Nine point seven five percent. He
didn't get in. That's that's all right, Stuart.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
You know, before Mariano, I think there was always the
mentality that no one deserved to be unanimous. And I
think the question that we have to ask ourselves if
you go around this room and say, who is the
greatest closer of all time? Probably we're all gonna say Mariano.
But if you go around this room and say, all right,
who is the greatest shortstop of all time? I don't
think everyone here is going to say Jeter, right, and

(21:26):
while Geo is a great player, totally Hall of Fame worthy,
you know, just it's also based on who you're going
up against and who else is on the ballot. I agree,
I don't think he should have been unanimous and right now,
and one guy that was is Mariano okay.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Rob, Yeah, you know, it's it's hard. Willie Mays didn't
get in obviously, Hank Aaron didn't get in. Gibson there,
you know, Rivera is the only one. So yeah, it's
we all agree the best closer in baseball history. He
deserved to be one hundred percent, but everyone else, you know,

(22:05):
it's it's the rider's choices, that's it.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, you want to know an irony about Derek here.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
One of the few All Star Games he did not
make was it at co America Park in Detroit, believe
it or not. And he actually was raised in Kalamazoo, Michigan,
and played his ball I think at Western Michigan.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
So and he didn't end up going to that co
America Park. Something to throw out there.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
He didn't get He didn't play in college. He got
drafted right out of high school.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
All right, So then he played He's not at Kalamazoo part.
Thanks for correcting me on that he's not at Kalamazoo.
Michigan still didn't make the All Star Game over in
miss over at America Park. So but anyway, he's got
Western Michigan ties.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
All right.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, I know there's a topic.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
A lot of people are really chomping at the bit
because there's a million names here about the different players
that were the Yankees and the Met's uniforms. So I
know we could sit here go off off the list.
So let's not turn this into a marathon because we
still have a show to go. So I'm gonna ask
each and every morning you give me the three best

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on this list that stand out.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Okay, we're gonna start off with the and they played
for the Mets and the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I mean, when I looked at this topic, I had
to make sure I had the right crew on this,
and I definitely got pretty I'm right there. The old
one I'll probably miss it is Chris but you know
I need him Wednesday night so I can't burn mister
Pizza out.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
But anyways, here's the old he had.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Obviously, you have Juan Soto Geryl Strawberry, Gary Sheffield, Ricky Henderson,
He's a pretty good name, by the way. Curtis Granderson,
Doc Gooden, David Cone, Robinson Cano, Bartolo Cologne, Yogi Berra,
Carlo's Beltron, Willie Randolph, Dave came In, Elliott Maddox, Joe Torri,

(23:54):
Dallas Green, Casey Staniel, Marv Thrownberry. And you have Carlos
Mendoza and Lewis Roha. Yeah, that's a lot of name.
Give me the three guys that I guess I'll just
say the three players that stand out in this group
is a better adjective for it.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, I mean, I think Beltran stands out for me.
I really loved watching Bell Tran play, you know, and
these are more my personal preferences of you know, seeing it. Obviously, Soto,
you have to name Soto. Soto is a fantastic hitter.
I mean, when he would come up to the plate
in Washington and we had to pitch against him, it

(24:38):
was just a nightmare. So I really love the way
he stands in the box and swings the bat. But
I'm I'm gonna go one that's not on the list
because he's one of my favorite guys. Ever and go
with Todd Frasier. This guy, this guy, I mean, what
a leader, you know, always comes to play. You know,
I'm not even talking about numbers. I'm just talking about

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just a baseball player that comes to the field every
single day with enthusiasm and is a leader and goes
out there and tries to play the game the right way.
And I'm I'm a huge fan of Todd Frazier.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
All right, Candy, Yogi Bearra, Doc Gooden, and Darryl Strawberry
going to some different names, yup?

Speaker 5 (25:22):
All right, Eric, Oh boy, I mean you have to
go Wan Toto. I mean, the guy's got a keen
eye in the batters bock, probably the best batter's eye
you can you can ever see. Curtis Granderson loved him,
loved him, and loved him with the Yankees. It's too
bad that we too bad we.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Weren't able to bring up bring home a championship with
him because he was one of them. He was a
guy I liked, but always just always just ready to go.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
I mean that's just how he was. And you know,
I'm gonna say Dallas Green. The funny thing is, too
is when he was when he managed the Yankees. That
was the only place he got fired from by by
you guess that. George Steinberg.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
That's good. Arian Stewart.

Speaker 9 (26:02):
Okay, So the three most interesting names I want to
put out there, So Casey Stengel without him, he was
the original Mets manager, and he almost could group him
with George Weiss, the general managers, you know, coming from
the Yankees and trying to give the Mets some credibility
a young franchise. That would be the first name. Second
one Elliot Maddox. So what I find interesting about this

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is Elliot Maddox, while playing for the Yankees, who were
then playing in Shase Stadium while they were renovating Yankee Stadium,
got hurt in the outfield, ended up suing the Yankees
the Mets Shase Stadium, and then ended up playing for
the Mets a few years later.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
And the last name is Dave Kingman.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
And what I find interesting about him is in nineteen
seventy seven, when we had four divisions, Dave Kingman played
for four teams, one in each division. He started with
the Mets, got traded to San Diego the same night
sever got traded, then went to the Angels and finished
the year the Yankees.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Okay, got Rob, I'm gonna go with my heart.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
I mean, of course you gotta say Soto, but I'm
gonna I'm gonna say Doc Goodin Strawberry and David Kohane
because George Steinbrenner just wanted to piss off Mets fans
by getting these guys after they had their glory years,
except for Con obviously with the Mets. So those are

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the guys I'm going to say because Stot Brenner just
wanted to piss that's off.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, you know, that's why I brought this in here,
putting the name game in here. And I'm gonna go
with three people that most people will probably think. I
like Gary Sheffield for crying out loud. I like Gary Sheffield,
Ricky Henderson. Ricky Henderson played for everybody. Why not have
them with the Mets. And Curtis Granderson's one of the

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nicest guys on the planet. I actually had a chance
to interview when he was with the Milwaukee Brewers, So
I gotta put the Grandy Man. And there, of course
Stuart did mine mentioning Marv Thronberry, so we have to
put him up there. I don't know why you put
him up there, But give me the explanation while we're
talking about him a Stewart, But how many did I
put up there?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
But I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
My main choices are Gary Sheffield, Ricky Henderson, who played
for everybody, Rest in peace, Ricky. I know, I think
he died on Christmas Day or close to Christmas as well.
And let's see who else. And I say Gary Sheffield,
Ricky Henderson. But I like Curtis Granderson, Curtis Cranderson is
everything good about baseball?

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Scott Scott just a little interesting piece here. My You know,
Stuart mentioned Casey Stingle. My brother was named Casey after
Casey Stingle, and I was named after Mickey Mantle. So
my dad is from from Memphis, Tennessee, but was a
huge Yankees fan growing up and played a little college
ball himself. And uh so he named us after those guys.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I like that. You keep bringing those nuts. See here's
the thing, Skiff, You're getting better at this media. Yeah, yeah,
you're getting better.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Part of the media. I just need I need some
managers on here that I can get on their ass
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well, don't worry, we're working on it.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
We'll do it.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
And well, that's up to you, you know, all the
darn managers.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I know, yeah, we're gonna grill Wriggleman when he gets
on there.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Problem with that, make sure your internet is you just
make sure your internets could? I know you just I'm
not taking on you. I'm just saying our first show
was a pretty good show on Saturday. The comments of
getting the way we we we we were doing on
that Saturday show, and we were slinging these things around
like a fling shot.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
I mean, I wanted to point out though that Dwight
Good and pitch the no hitter with the Yankee not
the Mets, and and then Daryl and and then Darryl
and then what I call from Daryl Strawberry. Darryl Strawberry
did dec with the Yankees. Although I just remember him
wanting to fight everybody. It cleared what armano beneath.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
That he's square it up. He squared up with it
in the in the away teams dugout and gave him
a whack.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I'm gonna tell you something though, George Steinbrenner really liked
to why Good and Daryl Shrubberry. He took care of
those guys even though they were having all kinds of problems.
He took care of them. George Steinbrenner and I interviewed
the guy another lifetime ago. And the one thing I
learned about George Steinbrenner real quick, and I was a
type pack that skip.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I'm telling you, I was young, wrong, whatever is?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I asked him all the easy questions early, okay, and
then when I got to the managers, he got rid.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Of me faster. You can do that.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I didn't care because I got what I wanted out
of him. But I don't feel so bad because he
did at the Ted Copple too, I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I was young. What is that nice guy?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
He's he's just the one to go out there and
talk about manager. He got rid of them faster. He
got rid of PR guys. PR guys only lasted a year.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
So I get it. I really totally get it.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's why I brought this topic out there, because it's
called name name dropping.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Keep falling on my tongue. No, you don want me
to say that. I've done that before.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I don't want to have to have candy any more
of my songs there, because only Rob knows.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
How much I let to see, right, Robert rob knows
that I'm talking about everytimes I got that man eleven,
I mean zero. All right, Well, you know what we're
changing the narrative to the day Troy Tiger. Why no,
not because they're beating the answers right now in the

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ninetheeny ten or nothing. Although the astros of a man
on second, they're playing batting practice at cho America Park.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
We're gonna talk to a guy who played an awful
lot of banning practice. His name is Tiers Raymond Cobb.
I May thirteenth, nineteen eleven. Ty Cobb built the first
Grand Slam of his career at the age of twenty
four people. And I know Stip loves it when they
come up with these stats, right, Skip, tell me you
like these dats.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I love them, especially when you bring them up for
my birthday. My birthday is on May thirteenth. I saw
you have a few today from May thirteenth, so.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I knew. I knew you were.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Gonna be plugging Ty Cobb this week. I mean we
all knew that was coming. After our discussion last week.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
You getting on pretty good.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, we go back to Fort st Lucy was grilling
him anyway, and he got there and now it gets
so long time.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta pose
this question to Stewart. Stewart, best player of all time?
Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb? Who is better? In your opinion?

Speaker 6 (32:33):
That's overall player. You asked me because you figured I
watched them play as a child.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
No, we had a debate last week.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Better get it right.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
I'm gonna go with the Babe because I think baseball
he was in the big market in New York.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
This a sacord moment, Stuart, How could you?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, well, let me that. Well, why you anoint this
guy Ruth first? Okay?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
At eight home run, twenty four triple, forty seven doubles,
two hundred and forty eight hits, is that one? You're
eighty three stolen bases? Okay, I'll bet you. May Ruth
had eighty three beers not stolen faces in Banning average
of four nineteen and his played appearance of six hundred
and fifty six team and there's stiff giving it to pay.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Come on. The only thing Babe Ruth as is a
candy bar named after him.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Ruth named after President Cleveland's daughter, not Dave Ruth.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Oh, I'll ruin a good analogy. Come on, that's a
good analogy.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
How did I get on this?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't care. I'm having a blast.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
It's okay, that's okay when you're broke thre's decision on
the throat operation to take care of my boys, and
that's a new lease on lights.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay, very good. So everybody, I'm not being silent that fast,
no way, man way, but thinking. But you're as Skip,
you're asking this guy to come up with the stats.
I don't even shoot off these eighty three stolen pieces.
I bet, I bet trying to get baby Ruth to
go ahead and steal eighty three pieces. It's not not
with your amount of beard.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
That did, no doubt now, all right, but you know what,
maybe it's his his designated runner or whatever. Back at
the end of his career, he could have stolen eighty three.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, I'll tell you one thing though, Skip, you're you
really getting better at this broadcasting thing.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
So that hey, Scott, it's hard to steal when you're
just rounding the bases in a slow trot hitting homers.
Ty Cobb, who was a better hitter, he wouldn't have
stolen so many bases.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, well, remember one thing about Tyrus Raymond Coyle. Number one,
you didn't have a number number two. If you pissed
him off, he'd take those.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
He was sharp enough. He would go out there and
make sure it was a bloody bike first. That's right.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I remember, and I know a lot about the history
of this game. I feel bad for the guy that
I had to deal with on a Friday night, because
this guy, if he gets me on a night where
I'm having heavily caffinated, this is gonna this is gonna
be a boxing match to look like Mike Tyson against
Peter McNeely. I can tell Robert Chris right now, Oh god,

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our really as if we were promoting now we got
Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
And Peter mc neally. Who's who's Mike Tyson?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'll bite his ear off or or that's the one
way he bid Holy feels out whatever anybody else talking about. Uh,
but that's what the numbers are for ty Cobb. But
I knew that final way to go ahead there, all right,
Chris Goods Rustol one hundred and twenty three basic in
his career. I needed somebody to come up that number.
Good job Chris one hundred twenty three and Cod had

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him at eighty three.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
That one.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Here, I rest my case. I rest my case. Final
score Detroit Tiger Sten Houston Astros. Okay, I had to
put that in there. Good, All right, Well, I'll tell
you what We're gonna go from ty Tob who stole bases,
to Max Schurzer, who stole a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Okay, this segment is exactly what this is all about.
Then we're gonna go to let he stole a lot
of money, he got a few pictoris in his pocket.
But get this, Max Scherzer in twenty twenty four to
twenty five his earnings best paid spectator. But I'm gonna
break down his earnings and what I'm gonna do. At

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twenty twenty four, he is collected some cash from Texas
at twenty two million, five hundred thousand bucks. Oh, the
New York Mets were willing to contribute to at thirty
six million dollars. Ok, let's go ahead and donate to
the sars are fun.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
In twenty twenty three, the Washington Nationals decided to add
to the national debt the country at fifteen million dollars
If that's not good, let's go over to Canada steal
another fifteen million bucks and twenty.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
So.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And of course over the past two seasons to this
date it started ten games, get eight point nine million.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Dollars first start. If that is a grand Larson, tell
me what it ends, scap, You tell me you get paid.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Well, you know what, these guys, they get paid for
what they've done in the past. You know, especially in
this free agency. Most of the time we're locking these
guys up to these long deals. In the last four
or five, maybe six years of that deal, you're getting
a player that's just not the same because they're aging.
And what we're seeing, and what we've always seen with

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this is these guys get paid for what they've done
before they signed these big contracts. And these teams are
okay if they have just a solid four or five
years left and they'll give them ten to twelve years,
and they seem to be okay with that because they
think that it'll be worth it for those first four
or five years of the contract.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
So you know, he.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Deserved the money. He's earned it. That guy was a beast,
beast of all beasts. When he was in his prime,
and you know, that's just how this game works. I
wish it were different, you know. I'd really like to
see everybody get a base salary and then when you
do whatever you do that year, maybe you can make

(38:26):
up to thirty million a year if you're putting up
those kind of numbers. I would love something like that.
Let's give everybody two and a half million dollars and
then if you earn thirty million, you earn thirty million.
No more. We don't have to worry about free agency
and stuff like that to get paid. If you're a
rookie and you earn thirty, then you get thirty. I
love something like that. I know that will never happen

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because of our amazing, you know, collective bargaining agreement that
we have and our players union is so strong, but
I would love to see something like that. I think
you'd get a better product on the field on a
daily basis, and you you wouldn't see these guys, you know,
just collecting paychecks when when they're weren't on the down

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side of their career.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Great points, good by Candy.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
Let's face it, we all want to be Bonnie Vanilla
and keep getting paid for years and years and years.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Why not.

Speaker 8 (39:18):
I mean, but kudos to him.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Max.

Speaker 8 (39:23):
Max was a very good it's still I mean, he
was a very good picture, you know. He Uh, he
had his his highlights, he had his good, really good years.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (39:39):
You know.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
So the salaries in MLB are just going up and
up and up. I mean it's like all of the
major sports though, they're all getting paid a lot of
money to play what most people would say as a
boys game, especially MLB. I mean that that's just something

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that we've always talked about. But kudos for Max. I mean,
he's a good pitcher.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I heard he's got Scott Bords as his agent either.
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Well, that's what happens when you play on teams that
you know they win one year, fall apart the next,
and then you know, Max wants to play for a
contender and is willing to waive his no trade clausing
and get traded, you know, because obviously that team that
has him for that money, well they got to pick
up some of the slack too, because the ain't no
way the other team that's getting is gonna pick.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Up all that money.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
I promise you that the owners will never will most
of the time, never do it. Once in a while
you see it, like like with Rappie Nevers and the
Giants for example. But but you know, obviously Bax Jersey's one,
he's won. I think he's won three, two or three
World Series championships.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
He's you know, he's a Hall of He's won.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
I think he's won multiple Cy Young's I want to
say he's a Hall of favorite for sure. And at
this point he's just playing the game, not be because
he has to, is because he wants to, which is
not which is always great to see. And you know
the fact that he's pitching into his forties without a
major injury is pretty in a while, it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
But you know, it just comes with it just comes
with the territory.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
I mean, I know, I know some people want to
talk about having some NFL style contracts where you got
the base salary and then you got the bonuses that
could feed into that, where you know where it's going
to cost the owners less and the players actually have
to really earn their money.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
But you know it'll never happen.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I mean, the reason it happened in the NFL was
the NFL had you know, they didn't have free agency
before they had play and B but that was nothing
compared to what this is now, where where it's actually
believe or not.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
In the NFL, free agency is not is not that old.
But the point I'm trying to.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Make is, you know, back then it was new ground
and the owner and the players had to give to
get at the time. But they right now, they've baseball
has had a system in there for so long that
the players like that. There's no way they're going to
give it up. But that's another story for another day.
But you know, it just comes with the territory. I mean,
Max played on some Max played on some championship winning

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teams that unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
They weren't so good.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
And Max wants to play for a winner, so he
you know, he went where he went where they were
winning man.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
And that is and that is the definition of a
and a STUDI businessman.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Ye businessman might as well put him in the Kirk
Cousins category as well.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Not nearly as talented.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
George. I already I already went ahead and got to
score up.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
But you're a little bit behind the Apaul there, okay,
but tend to nothing at co America Park, Okay, But anyways,
go ahead, Stewart.

Speaker 9 (42:40):
You know, I think at this point Scherzo is just
trying to cement his legacy. I think he wants to
go out on a good note, and that's why he
continues to pitch kudos to his agent forgetting him that money.
Maybe he can get two y's that are the same colors, right,

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I didn't know about that the big wet with Max.
I think, Scott, do you think he goes in wearing
a Detroit Tiger's hat to the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (43:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I actually I don't know what hat.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Do you think he goes in wearing?

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Gosh, not that one, a black one because he's because
he has one.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I can see him going with a blank one. Yeah,
I kind of like it because he did not win
a World Series with the Tigers. He didn't win one
usually I think. I mean Tom Gabe actually mentioned something
the other day when I talked to him that he
thinks that Justin Verlander is going to go in wearing
an Astro's hat, Tiger's hat.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
I can see it, yeah, because he won the championships there.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
And after Tom Gage said too, you know what, I think,
Eric's right? I think goes in Toto with a blank one.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Because he's got a legacy on multiple teams.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 9 (43:54):
His speech will his speech will be interesting to hear
because he played for so many teams and you know
he's going to go talk about all the players that
he played with. That's a speech I'm looking forward to
hearing from in five six years from now.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, yeah, he's definitely.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I bet Scott that if Berlander chooses Astros to go in,
if he gets in before sures are then uh, then
Sureser will pick Detroit.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Do you really Okay? That's interesting.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I really think that because they were the two horses
during that period of time and I think that would happen.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
But if I if you're going to make that statement,
you know how I could back up that statement because
Detroit gave his first shot that success is what he
did when Absolutely and Arizona didn't think he was good enough.
So I could see where he might demonstrate a little
loyalty there.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Claire's players always have that in the back of their mind.
That first team you played for is always your team.
You're always going to root for them the most once
you retire. It's just it's you know, they're the ones
that gave you the shot. There you go.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I'll tell you that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Now you might be convincing me he could the Tigers
head if it's not playing okay, well, Rob, I'll give
you the.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
You know what Mickey said. They're getting paid for what
they did, and you know they deserve it. Though, the
way the contracts are going now, the back ends are
going to be bad. What do you think the back
end of Soto's contract's going to look like he's gonna
have a great career, Yes he is. He's gonna set
records if he doesn't opt out, he'll set records with
the Mets. But the back end of that contract is

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not going to look pretty.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Fair enough. I like what everybody has to say that one.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Here's the thing, though, if the teams aren't gonna care
as long as it brings them one, one or two
World Series championships, they're willing to deal with it.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
The Cubs willing to deal with it when they had
when they had their demise with the players that they signed.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
No one there, especially their pitching staff, which is evaporate
after a couple of years. But you know, they won
a championship out of it. So as long as you
win the championship out of it, who cares? You're willing
fads are willing to deal.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
With with the end?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
All right, Well you have a final word on that topic.
Johan Santana's, by the way, is joining Team Venezuela's coaching staff.
Two time Not Young Award winner. Some talks about Johann
Santana helping out Team Venezuela's step.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, I mean we talked about this last week. Anytime
those big time guys go out there and they're helping
these these other guys I that uh, you know, and
and helping convince some players to go play that might
not have otherwise so they can be around Johann. I
think it's I think it's amazing. You know, these guys

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have such good experience and such good knowledge to offer
that some of these players that that would otherwise turn
the WBC down will probably say, heck, yeah, I want
to be around Johann Santana and improve as a pitcher.
So I'm in.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, I mean think about it, this guy you can
teach an awful lot of people. He really can't. And
you know what, long I'm thinking about this fresh off
I had. I had the good fortune of actually working
with a guy I think it was Candy What a
few years ago named Andrew Graham, right, who's a double
a manager in the Tiger system. And Andrew Graham, by
the way, at last I counted, has eight hundred wins

(47:12):
in the minor leagues. You ever heard of Andrew Graham?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Skip?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I haven't heard him.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
This guy is from Australia, he is, and I ended
up doing an interview with him. The noise is out
too high over at Daytona, so I went in the
manager's office up there and talked to Andrew. What a
really nice guy.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
He's a role This guy could be on a Tiger's
coaching staff in the next two three years of paying
what happened. But watch out for the name Andrew Graham.
The last I saw him, like eight hundred wins in
their system and counting Andrew Graham. Everybody in the Detroit
Tiger system, all.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Right, Canny, anybody else have any thoughts about Johan Santana
joining Team Venezuela.

Speaker 8 (47:51):
He's a two time cy Young Award winner. He pitched
for the Twins. He's a four time All Star and
earned a Pitching Triple Crown, and two thousand and six,
he pitched the first no hitter in Mets history. On
June first, twenty twelve. I mean, I love when these
guys pass on their knowledge within the game, even if

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it is not from for the USA. I mean, he's
he's originally from Venezuela, so it makes sense for him.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
I tell a quick, funny story.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, old a one second, do me a favor. I
want you to go ahead, Google up Andrew Graham right
now in baseball and timoy wins he had when I
interviewed him. He was with the Lakeland Fighting Tigers. Okay,
go ahead, rob Okay.

Speaker 7 (48:43):
So of course I waited my whole life to see
the Mets pitch and no hitter. You know how many
times did they come close? Seever good and whatever?

Speaker 6 (48:50):
So what happens.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
I am in Switzerland and he pitches the no hitter,
and I find out the next day I couldn't see
I couldn't see the game until I came back to
the States.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Oh wow, it's funny to talk about international travel. But
we went on this last trip here. I'm not used
to being so far aheaded on the clock where our
games were starting eleven twelve o'clock at night. Everybody else
is on the East coast, that their normal time. That
took a little getting used to. Oh yeah, oh I
never thought of that a lot. That's pretty weird. The
closest thing where I had to move to clock forward

(49:25):
was a ruble of that one hour. Now you go
across a pond, you're about five six, seven hours. That's
a different animal in some cases.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
So how many pitches did he throw in that note hitter?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Do we do?

Speaker 6 (49:35):
We know?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Is the one hundred and forty eight.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
Or something like that?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Did he get out that high?

Speaker 6 (49:40):
It was pretty high? I mean he was never really
the same after that.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, I mean that really really, you know, hurt his
productiveness after that for sure.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Well Canty comes up with anybody else everything to say
about you hand Santana.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Yeah, I remember what him was, Yeah, I remember him.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
He was the best pitch remember him being the best
pitcher in baseball for a little while there. And obviously
with the Mets, I think the no hitter is his
body was already falling apart. I think the no hitter
was his last hurrah and then the body just collapsed
on But you know.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Good for him for coming back.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
I mean, you know, a two times i On Award winner,
a multi time All Star, and a guy's hitter. Who
wouldn't want to be around that, especially those guys who
are playing minor league baseball trying to make it to
the show. You know, why not learn from a former
sy Young winner and an All Star to to up
their game and potentially maybe earn a call up.

Speaker 9 (50:33):
I think, you know, as as a businessman, I think
he looks at it as a networking opportunity. I think
he might want to get back into baseball, maybe being
a pitching coach with the miners and then the majors,
and this is a good stepping stone both for him
and Team Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Okay, I'm going to talk about something about one and
solo and when Candy you come up.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
With that information about Grant letting me know. Okay, and
Chris has one hundred and thirty four pitches thrown in
that game. There you go, there's your answer.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
How many how many ways there's Scott?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
He says, one hundred and thirty fourth skept. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
We talked on Saturday about Edwin Rodriguez one hundred and
forty nine and you were still freaking out over that
one given to this day.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
I bet that interest boy.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
I bet some owner, some owner and some front off
for off executive was passed up, passed out in their
suite that day.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, so earlier in the year, okay, those that had
some choice words for Juan Soto. Of course, when you
get paid a lot of money, you should. You got
to get out of the box. We'll discuss that after one.
Soto didn't hustle out of the box. Sodo actually thought
he had a homework, so he stood in the box

(51:44):
just to pretty much watch it, and all of a
sudden he got a long single skippy.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
It has to drive you nuts, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
It does, it does, Scott. But you know what you
have to realize as a manager is in in these situations,
these things are gonna happen, right. I had Robbie Cano.
I had Robbie Canoe at the end of his career.
There was a lot of times he didn't bust it
out of the box. And you know, I got questioned
with that after the game. And this is something that

(52:12):
I had discussed with Robbie quite a bit, and at
the time we were really you know, with Robbie at
that time, when he was doing some of that stuff,
he had some ailments that I just couldn't disclose as
a manager, And you know, I just told him, hey,
you get down to first and stay healthy.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
The last thing we wanted to do was on a
ground ball to second base. Somebody get hurt trying to
run harder than they they should when they're not feeling great. Now,
if you're feeling great and you're in a good spot,
you better be busting your highinie down to first. I mean,
that's just that's just the way to play the game,
you know. I think another thing that comes into these

(52:55):
players' minds after talking to them, you know, through some
of this kind of stuff, is they want to play
every day, right, they want one hundred and sixty two
games played, and they will conserve their energy on routine
ground balls.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
The one thing I always ask them is once the
you know, you run hard, You run as hard as
you can until that ball, you know, is a foot
away from from the from the first basement, and then
you can kind of pull up. But but you can't.
What if somebody bobbles the ball? You know, that's that's
the worst looking that you could possibly have in baseball.

(53:34):
Kudos to Mendoza for coming out and saying something. I'm
sure he went to Juan Soto and gave him my
heads up before and saying, hey, look, they're going to
be on me about what you what you did tonight.
I'm going to have to tell them that I had
this talk with you that you need to bust it
down the line, and then you know, hopefully he can
keep the peace in the clubhouse, because that is one

(53:55):
thing that a manager has to do, is you have
to have your players backs at all times and and
try to you know, you know, I wouldn't say bs
the media, but you gotta, you gotta you know, I
gotta protect your players and uh, you know, if you're
gonna call him out in the media, I know he

(54:16):
went to one before and said, hey, look, I'm gonna
I'm gonna, you know, get on you a little bit
in the media, and you're gonna have to wear it.
So you've got to get down the line so this
stuff doesn't happen again. So I'm glad he did it.
You know, I would love for players on the team
to take that role. We talked about it before. Good

(54:37):
teams are led by coaches. Great championship teams are led
by the players.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Great, great, So Skivarry, Candy, what'd you come up with?

Speaker 8 (54:46):
I have not been able to find his actual totals.
I'm still looking. He's coached numerous places. In fact, he
was no longer with the uh well he's still within
the Tiger organization, but he was back coaching this I

(55:07):
believe the Sea Wolves this year.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah, he is coaching Sea Wolves.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
I don't know if he's a manager, but I know
he's with the Lakeland Flying Tigers and he's a mass
over eight hundred wins. Watch out for Andrew Graham. This
guy hails from Australia and I think he's had some WBC.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Action as well.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
That's okay, Candy, So what are your thoughts about Wan
Soto and what Mendoza had to say to him?

Speaker 8 (55:32):
You know, with with success, with with slumps, you're gonna
get the you're gonna get people talking about you good bad,
whether you're in a slump, whether you're doing really well.
That's the kind of the price you get for getting
such a big contract and playing it to the level

(55:53):
that you are.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah, well, you know, he get a long single and
a home run just watching it the big Apple media skip,
you know, like anybody else will eat two off alive
if that becomes a recurring problem and if they're bad,
so it is Philadelphia, oh else, Yeah, get work.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Right to me, Scott, it turns more into how is
the manager going to you know, it's more of a
soap opera how's the manager going to handle this than
really the issue of Sodo getting down the line hard?
You know, I think that it turns into a bigger
thing and they want to see how everybody reacts, so

(56:33):
they try to put everybody on pins and needles.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
For sure, great points, okay.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
Eric, I mean, you know, to obviously do a Skiff's
point was sometimes there was things happening in the background
that you just don't tell the media and also not
give them the player heads up. That the recipe to
lose a locker room very fast, because these guys are
these guys are growing and will make their own choices,
and it's easier to fire the manager than it is
to fire the players. But it's you know, it's it's

(57:03):
you know, who knows what's you know as much as
as much as I enjoy a good, a good and
as much as I enjoy a good, a good Mets
soap opera story, this because then I can because then
I can go and say typical New York Mets. It's
you know, there probably there might be wat Soto might
not be one hundred percent to up to U Skiff's point.

(57:24):
You know, there's there's stuff in there that you don't know.
And you also you gotta protect the player. I mean,
if you don't protect the player, then you know it's
you know, the locker room is gonna make up its
own mind what it wants to do. And it also
the locker room becomes can become a very divisive place
and it's not easy. And it's just downright and possible
to win with a very divisive locker room. And you know,
unless you want to be totally Ruster at the tail

(57:47):
end of his career with the White Sox the second
goal the second time around, you know, you got to
be there for your guys, and you can't. You gotta
give him a heads up when you got to say something.
Otherwise that player is just gonna keep doing it and
he won't listen. And you know that's how lost and
people get fired.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Stuart like it or not.

Speaker 9 (58:06):
Soto is supposed to be a leader on this team,
and sometimes you lead by example. And they have some
young players who are watching this, watching both how he
reacts and how the manager reacts to everything.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
So I think he's got to get used to being
in New York.

Speaker 9 (58:23):
I don't think he's ever been in a situation where
he was a top dog, and you know, there was
either he was either on a mediocre team and was
a star, or he was on a better team, but
there were other guys there to kind of pick up
the voat. And now with this contract, even though they
have Alonso, they have Lindor, you know, none of those

(58:46):
guys have seven hundred and fifty million dollars, seven hundred
and fifty five million, whatever it is. And I think
he's got a responsibility and hopefully he gets it because
he's got fourteen more years after this if he doesn't
opt out to show so this year, I mean, he's
had an okay here, he had a great June, but
he hasn't really shown leadership qualities. And I don't know

(59:09):
if that's what the Mets were thinking when they signed him,
that he would show some of that too, But it's
more than just putting up big numbers. Anyone could put
up big numbers, but what you do in the clubhouse,
how you react, how you hustle, how your work ethic,
all that is, you take that into account, and that's
whether you're successful or not.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
Rob Yeah, see, I think and I remember that at
that well. I think that it's you know, it was
the timing. It was when people were saying, you know,
it doesn't look like he's happy on the Mets. He
regrets signing with the Mets. All that bs. He doesn't
look happy. So I think it was the timing. And

(59:49):
I think because you're under the microscope in New York,
it's made a bigger thing. Mendy handled it pretty well.
It was handled the way it should be handled. And listen,
the guy is still having having an excellent year. It's
just he's his his year compared to last year with
the Yankees. He has a lot more solo home runs

(01:00:12):
this year, so he's not getting as many runners in
scoring position home That's that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
That's one of the things.

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
But I think Mendy handled it well, and you know,
it's just one of the things. He's paid so much money.
But I don't think the Mets paid him to be
a leader. They paid him for what he could do
with the bat. They got Lindor in the clubhouse for that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
All right, our cracked statistician came through again. Andrew Graham.
Folks have eight hundred and sixty two wins as a
minor league manager. Watch out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
This guy is a name that you're going to hear
about soon enough. Great so appreciate the persistence of our
cracked statistician to come up with that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Scott, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Let me let me have one more thing though. I mean,
here's the thing, you know, wat Soto. You know, if
this is kind of trajectory of Juan Soto's career, He's
in Washington. You know, he's playing for some you know,
aside from that World Series year, his rookie year, he's
played out some mediocre to bad Washington Nationals teams.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
He goes to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
He goes over to to San Diego, San Diego, thinking
the grass is gonna be greener over there, and it's not.
He ends up he ends up going, he ends up
tagging along for their run to the NLCS, and then
he goes to the Yankees, has all uber Mount success there. However,
he wasn't Batman in that lineup that belonged to Aaron Judge.
So Aaron Judge got to take a lot of the

(01:01:34):
heat off want Soto. And so with Aaron Judge there,
you know, things are generally, you know, you're not gonna
get you know, really, you're generally not gonna have to
face the heat that Judge generally generally will take for you.
And but then when he goes to New York thinking
the grass is greener, it's definitely not greener. That's just
been the trajectory of his career. You know, he stinks
the grass is greener on the other side and it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Yeah, I mean, I think I'd like to add a
little bit to that. Scott, I'm right. You know, when
he first started talking, he said, you know, want, when
you sign a guy, you signed the guy. And that's
who he is, right. Robbie Cano's first time he didn't
bust it out of the box. Was not in with
the Mets. He was something that was probably there all along.

(01:02:23):
Soto's the same thing. You know, when when the Mets
signed Soto, they knew they weren't signing Charlie hustle, right, Like,
like Rob said, they signed him to go up there
and be a threat in the lineup.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
And that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
You know, just because you give him all the money,
he's not going to change what he does because you
signed him to be the player that he already is.
So he's gonna be the same guy. And uh, you know,
it's just it's just a different situation when you get
in New York. You know, if you don't run in Washington,
nobody's gonna say a thing, right, They're gonna you know,

(01:02:56):
maybe one writer might might mention something and probably won't
even be a question about it. But when you do
it in New York, it becomes a thing. And and
but you know, he's just gonna be the guy he is.
You know, he's not He's not gonna be running four
flats to first base. That's just the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Well, there's no question things are more magnified in New York.
I mean, he had nine million writers all over the place.
So in fact, we're going to be alluding to one
of those writers. After a station break, which we're going
to get right now from Candy.

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Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Back to you, Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
All right, Kenny Lens, you're back to you. We're going
to talk to world Mickey's old friends. I think Tim
Healy he's gonna give us his perspectives about the front
office moves if David Sterns made go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:05:09):
Candy, okay, let me share my screen here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Let me get to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
That one.

Speaker 11 (01:05:20):
And then.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
What is gone that's very much moving in the right
direction to the front office.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Was any David Sterns as a general manager? Tell me
how much one the impact that that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Been Dan in terms of what the organization is because
here in mind Stearns had very little work with with
the Milwaukee Birds.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
What the limited podge?

Speaker 11 (01:05:49):
Yeah he everything you know you saw in the field
in year one under David Sterius and that's went from
routine to really even too array to two inches. See
what happens in the year two there. He prides himself,
as you said, with the Brewers didn't have a lot

(01:06:10):
of financial resources.

Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
What the Mets he does that allows him to get
a guy like Sean and.

Speaker 11 (01:06:16):
Ia, Jan Soto, Peter Alonzo, guys he never would have
signed with the Brewers and make some of those shrewd
lower cost moves like Jose.

Speaker 6 (01:06:24):
Waits his last year, maybe Griffin Canning this year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Clay Holmes.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
That's a big project to see where that goes. This
transitioned from a bullpen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
So there's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
All right, So that's what he was talking about in
terms of the moves that Sterns. They skip any thoughts
about what Tim was talking about in terms of the Sterns.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Yeah, I know David Sterns well. He was obviously in
uh with with the Indians or now the Guardians when
I was there, so I got to know him really
really well in my time. He actually was the first
person to offer me a job after I left the Mets.
He wanted me to come over to the Brewers and
kind of advise him and his pitching staffs. But you know,

(01:07:11):
I think Tim Healy is obviously right right, He's able
to sign some of the big names that he would
never be able to sign with the Brewers. And then
he has a knack for going and finding the Griffin Cannings,
the younger players that can come up and contribute. And
I guarantee you he's using a lot of analytics and

(01:07:31):
spin rates and hop on the ball to try to evaluate,
you know, hard hit balls, try to evaluate the right
players to bring in that he projects will have better
success than they did at their previous place. But one
thing that I think Healey kind of missed out on

(01:07:52):
here is David Sterns is building a culture there. This
is what David Sterns does. He builds a culture. He's
doing everything right. He's feeding these guys the right way.
I remember one of my biggest challenges when I stepped
in to the Mets was, hey, look, we cooked great

(01:08:12):
food there, but it was unhealthy. I mean our ladies
that cooked our food. It was the most delicious stuff ever,
but you left feeling heavy and stuff like that. I
guarantee you that the way they prepare, the way they
recover has tremendously improved since David Stearns has been there.

(01:08:33):
That's what David does.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
Know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
You talk about the secret to these Tampa Bay Rays,
the Brewers, they can't pay all the money in the
world to all their players. So what they do they
put it into research and development, They put it into recovery,
they put it into nutrition, and they spend way more
money than other teams on those type things to get

(01:08:58):
the most out of those low paid players that they have.
And now you give David Stearns an unlimited budget and
he's going to do some special things. I really believe
in him wholeheartedly. I guarantee you to all Mets fans
that he is taking these teams in the right direction.
Is he gonna win a World Series every year? No,

(01:09:19):
It's very tough to do, but he I guarantee you
he's putting them in a good spot to have the
most success that they can possibly have.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Well, just so the recent transaction that actually happened and
I had talked to Mendoza about this during the pregame
media availability when I was out there covering the Mets
and the Marlins, was at that time they had signed
a guy named Husker Brazza band is what they did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
He was with the Marlins. Well, now He's been recently
optioned to Triple A Syracuse, so that's some of that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Has it worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
We may not have heard the end of Brazza band,
but right now he's going to try to get himself
straightened out and Syracuse what to do. All right, let's
go back to Christmas comments. Soto did still a little
big in the postseason for the Yankees. Yeah, he did
the mess. We're probably hoping he'll do the same for them.
And then, of course Soto is a rookie playing for
Washington and the world chair. He vetted three thirty three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I like those.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
There were three home runs, seven rb eyes and eleven
and seventy eight. I guess ohps, I'm not big on
that stuff anyways. But so Oscar as bras A band
has been designated for assignment Triple anybody else want to
add to the David Searns comment. Now, yeah, I know
Eric Quid because obviously he was in Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
I do go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Well, I'll tell you what though, I mean, I remember him.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
I remember him a lot more of Milwaukee, and when
definitely saw what was going on there, he developed three
I mean, his figger prints are all over this team.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Now that that system still moving.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
Matt Arold, Matt Arlold was under him and he still
got He's still got that train rolling along to the
tune of to the tune of about six playoff appearances
in the last seven years, but he developed three as
pictures and they were all stars at the same time.
At one point Freddy Peralta Corbyn Burns at brandon Woodruw.
He also had Adrian Houser over there too, who who

(01:11:07):
he turned into like a solid middle reliever guy who's,
you know, kind of he's starting to revive his career
now in I believe. I believe he was doing it
in Chicago, and I think they traded him. I can't
remember where.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
But he fought this man.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
I was under the belief, especially in twenty twenty one,
this man could just find pictures in the ground, dig
them up and turn them into really good relief farms.
He did that with Jake Cousins. Who Jake Cousins that year,
you know, he was all about forgotten in baseball. Next
thing you know, he appears in thirty games for him,
becomes one of their better high leverage relievers and has
a two seven and he has an earned around average
of two point seventy and was a really key pitcher

(01:11:43):
that year. He h you know, he knows how to
find these guys. He had Hunter Strickland, who was a
journey who was starting to look like tailing his career.
Boom revived his career and he had a dollar He
had an er of a dollar seventy three. So you
know this, this guy knows how to find pictures like
he finds them in places that you will not h
that you will not even guess. I mean, he did
it in Milwaukee, and now obviously in New York he's

(01:12:05):
got he's got he's got more. He's got more money
than that, I think than probably just the Dodgers. But
you know, but but he's still using the same principles
that he applied over there. He's not going all uh
not abandoning what made him successful in Milwaukee, which is
always good to see. I mean, it's it's interesting relationship
through between him and Steve Cohen, where where Cohen kind

(01:12:27):
of has to push him a little bit, but at
the same time Cohen knows how to restrain himself because
you know, he knows that David Stearns had success in
that small market.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
But you know what.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
But you know, this guy knows how to find pictures
though and find players that you you would think the
rest of baseball is out on, but you know, but nevertheless, though,
he finds them and they end up becoming pretty good
players for him, and they're a pretty and you definitely
generally want more than just a couple of great players
in your lineup.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
He's some pretty good players around him too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Yeah, that's a good point here. How you say that? Actually,
David Stearns is a money manager.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
It's not like he's going to sit here and abuses
the billionaire's money just to buy players, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Prob. Do you have any thoughts about this?

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
Yeah? He Sterns finds lightning in a bottle, right, That's
what he does. So he's not gonna misspend Cohen's money.
He knows what he's doing. Cohen trusts him. But listen,
having no mistake. If Cohen wants someone, and if Cohen
and Stern butt heads, Cohen's going to get who he
wants no matter what. But it's the great who has

(01:13:32):
a better situation than the Mets right now. You know
Stern's with Cohen's money.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
That's great.

Speaker 9 (01:13:38):
What about you and Stuart I think you know, Met
fans had to suffered through the Willpons for many years
not spending money, and I think when Cohen came in
with his deep pockets, the hope was there's going to
be no free agent.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
None.

Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
They'll spend whatever it needs to be spent. And I
think we saw last year with the Pete Alonso. I
don't think Stearns wanted to resign him, but ultimately, at
the end of the day, Cone made the decision to
resign him, and they're going to have that same question
likely at the end of this season. I think MET
fans are a little frustrated with some of the bargain

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pitchers because I think it takes them back to the
Lowpon years a little bit, and they look at Stearns's
this small market GM who maybe he thinks he's the
smartest person in the room and he hasn't proven anything yet.
Right now, it's no guarantee they get in the playoffs
this year, and hopefully they do, and I guess his

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success will be measured by the team success at the
end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
All right, Katy, Well, speaking of Carl's Mendoza, what do
you have for me on that side. Can I get
in on the David Stones Absolutely, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:14:52):
So back September twenty first, twenty fifteen, the Brewers named
him as their next gentleman manager, succeeding the retiring Doug Melvin.
At thirty years of age, he became the youngest general
manager in MLB, one of the youngest in history, and

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was one year younger than the Brewers star player Ryan Braun.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
One of the things he did in his first off
season he replaced half of the team of the forty
man roster for the Brewers half. He is responsible for
signing free agents Lorenzo Caine. He's responsible for executing the
trade that brought Christian Yelich.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
To the Brewers.

Speaker 8 (01:15:42):
He also got Mike Mustakis, Curtis Granderson, who we talked
about earlier. He did a lot with nothing, but let's
face it, he was born in Manhattan, New York, so
he wanted to go home and that's you know, so
kudos to him because the Brewers can. The Brewers success

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stemmed and really started with with him and his philosophy
and they've kept it going. So and he did a
lot with nothing, because let's face it, now, he's got
a much bigger pocketbook, whereas his pocketbook was much tighter,
much smaller.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
With the Brewers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Okay, good points all the way around. Had a couple
of Wisconsin people. All right, Eric, you want to say something, I.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Was going to say.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
The will the will Pond did did too. They did
to spend money. It just so it just so happened
they didn't spend spend it correctly. Take two thousand take
a year after after the little choke job in two
thousand and seven, which which is standard for the Mets,
they they they went out and spent one hundred and
thirty seven million dollars, which was second to the second
to the Yankees at the time. And keep in mind,

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though the payrolls were obviously a lot different than that
was a lot of money back then. Obviously now that
we have something, a little something called it inflation. It
just so happened that they stopped spending because they were
smart enough to believe that they should then.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Trust a fraud.

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
They Bernard made off to be their financial advisor, and
the team was almost became the first became the first
MLB team in a while to go bankrupt. So that
is why they weren't spending money because they had to
go ahead and deal with a bunch of lawsuits and
pay a bunch of people back. So that so that
is why the why the Willponds were we're not spending money,
not because they didn't want to. It's because they were

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smart enough to believe that Bernard made up had their
best interest at heart.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Believe it at that. All right, Candy, let's go to
the clip from manager. Okay, I want to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
We talked about marta earlier. Lindor had a pretty big
game while so then of course they.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Auxender put those guys in the line up every day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Not only does it provide you with a power search,
but don't you think that provides a lot of fear
into opposing pitching.

Speaker 10 (01:18:11):
I mean, you know you're gonna be facing a lot
of teams that are loaded to you know, but for
us to be able to, uh, especially for me as
a man, write the name on the line up, you know,
it says that we're gonna we're got a good team,
but we.

Speaker 6 (01:18:25):
Still you know, we gotta go out there and do it.

Speaker 12 (01:18:28):
You know, there's a lot of good teams out there.

Speaker 10 (01:18:30):
A lot of offense, uh, teams with good offense and
you know this guys stay healthy and keep them.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
Guys doing what they can do and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
But it's uh and one other question.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
You feel that these reacts on many We feel his
antitude is really refreshed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
He's ready to have a big year.

Speaker 12 (01:18:49):
Yeah he's uh yeah, he's ready to go.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
You know he's being the same guys.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
See you know, first day.

Speaker 12 (01:18:56):
Of camp, spend the whole uh early last year getting
to know the uh same guy.

Speaker 6 (01:19:01):
You know, guy that wants to win, knows.

Speaker 12 (01:19:05):
What it takes the play and you know he's uh
going to do whatever it takes to uh bring.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
In Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:19:18):
To thethleet's trails.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
So took the same trailer. How much are you looking
forward to working with Lonso?

Speaker 12 (01:19:25):
Yeah, I mean I'm excited to have him. Uh you
know what he brings to the team, to the line up,
to the guys in there. You know, the guy that's
proving and uh very excited.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
So there you have it. There's so the bottom line
is it's certainly looking forward to Orlondo. A little bit
of footnote here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Anybody can comment on it if they want to, but
the main thing is is that we all know that
Alonso is now they mess all time home run came
with two hundred and fifty four. That's went out of
their way. If you're looking to try to it tells
them to stay. They got him a new forward that one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Fifty. There's a way. It's a gesture, Hey, we still
like you. We'll get your throat to to stay here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Nice way to appease him. But we all know he's
gonna opt out, and I don't think that they're able
to tender him another offer because they did that a
year ago. So he's fair game. So skip. What's your
take about that whole thing with Mendoza and the Alonzo
situation in general.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Yeah, you know, I didn't get to hear all of that.
It was kind of breaking up a little bit. But
I know that anytime you can plug in, you know,
a big power hitter in your lineup, you have to
be thrilled about that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
I think that pet Alonzo breaking the all time Mets
home run record was kind of an inevitability avenable thing
after his you know, rookie season hitting so many homers
and setting the rookie record, so you know he's been,
He's been a tremendous power hitter. You knew they were
going to keep him because the fans love him. For

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the most part, I think that the fans really embraced Pete,
and Pete really embraces New York and loves the New
York Mets. There's no doubt about that, you know, talking
to him when I was his manager there, he loved
the pressure, he loved the big time stage. That's what
Pete loves. And you've got to give him credit. To
be able to go out there for this long, set

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the all time Mets record and be that big bopper
in the middle of the lineup for what the last
six or seven years is amazing testament to who Pete
is as a slugger.

Speaker 8 (01:21:40):
Katy, you know it was it's neat to listen to
the manager and you be able to ask the questions
of him how he feels, how his team is about Pete.
Pete's had a great career and he continues to have success,
and it's always good to see players have success.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Eric Eric all Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
You know, obviously during the off season, Scott remembers, Scott
remembers it will I was I was all over Pete
A Lonzo's case. You could check out those articles at
Billy off Course dot com. But but you know, obviously
this year he's proved. You know, this year, he's having
a fine year. He's always been a great power hitter.
I mean, you know, I mean, hitting fifty plus home
runs in your rookie year. It's hard to do, but

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you know he's doing it. And obviously he's a fan
favorite in New York and I think around baseball they
mostly like him, say save for save for a few
people here and there. And you know, this offseas is
gonna be interesting, though, because he's looking to cash in.
He's clearly earned it, and you know he's he's been
having the best year he's hadn't had in a while,
and you know it'll be It's been an interesting offseason.

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I mean, glad to see that that record was finally broken,
that someone stayed around long enough to make that happen.
But but you know, it's uh, you know, I'll give
it to Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
I'm happy for him.

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
I know I've been his I know I've been his
Feerce arguably one of his fiercest critics on the internet,
but it's you know, it's I'm glad for him.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
It's you know, it's great to see great to see
something like that happen.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
And you know, the Austine's gonna be interesting though, because
his agent is Scott Boris, and generally he knows how
to delay an off season and make it last longer
than a rain delays I Stuart, you know he What.

Speaker 9 (01:23:30):
I'm impressed with with Pete is he's a hard worker.
He knows he sees weaknesses in his game and he
tries to correct it. He came up he was not
a good fielding first baseman.

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
He worked on it.

Speaker 9 (01:23:41):
He's never gonna win a Gold Glove, but he's serviceable there.
He worked on some stuff this passed off season as
far as a hitter, and we're seeing we're seeing some
of the results now. He's ever gonna be a three
hundred hitter, but he can give you two sixty, maybe
two seventy. He's liked in the clubhouse, kind of a
goofy guy. From what I see, I would love for

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him to stay. I think he has more value as
a New York met than other teams in baseball. You know,
I think also, I don't I'm hesitanting on giving him
a long term contract because he's on the wrong side
of thirty. His body type is such that I don't
see him making a real long career, like I don't

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see him playing when he's forty, or at least as
an effective player when he's forty.

Speaker 6 (01:24:26):
But as a Met fan, I hope.

Speaker 9 (01:24:28):
They do resign him, even if it's at a shorter deal,
maybe two or three years with more money per year,
you know, going forward.

Speaker 6 (01:24:34):
For next year. But he should be a Met and
he's the type of guy that you'd like to see
a Met for life.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Like David Wright was, Okay, good points, Well take somewhever
a round.

Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
Yeah, well, I agree. I agree with Stuart definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
He's he's more.

Speaker 7 (01:24:50):
He means more to the Mets and the Mets fans.
He loves the met fans, like Mickey says, you could
tell they love him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
He would have broke Strawberry's U faster if it wasn't
for the COVID year, which, by the way, Mickey, I
think the Mets should have gave you that extra year
even though it would have been the COVID year. But
if it wasn't for the COVID year, he would have
he would have broke Strawberrys record quicker and all this

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other crap that's going on in New York about the
Mets are making such a big deal about this home
run record. You know, it is really stupid. Just because
it's two hundred and fifty four home runs. It means
a lot to the Mets organization. And like Eric said,
you know, finally somebody stayed long enough to break strawberries record.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
All right, well, let me go to a local story,
which is a really good story here locally. Almost spend
a lot of time out of it. But I'd like
to acknowledge our local teams. This one comes as a
Division two team that we have called Nova Southeastern University.
And Anthony Caroline well Ka ro O l Y is
a junior right handed pitcher. Was drafted in the seventeenth

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front of the twenty twenty five mL rookie Draft. And
this guy here is going to the Sea atle I
think he's going to the Seattle Mariners. My goodness, I
wonder who plays on them. Colorawi will get to in
a moment. But here's the thing about Nova Southeastern University.
They've had twenty seven draftings since his school became a

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Division two school one seven dractually to school, so more
I wish Anthony currently real well, and it's always good
to be able to take a story like this with
the Division I school and put it on the national
level and be able to acknowledge it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Skip. Do you have anything really quickly to say about
this one?

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Yeah, I guess, I guess I would ask when did
they become a division to you know, school, When when
are all these guys getting Has it been there for
a while? Well, because the reason I ask is because lately,
now that they've adjusted the draft, they've they've eliminated some
minor league teams, right, not that many Division two Division
three players getting drafted at all. I think it's dropped

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like eighty five percent. So that's very impressive that they're
they're they're still putting out you know, that kind of talent.
So obviously it's Florida. There's great baseball in Florida, right,
you can play year round, so you're getting some you're
getting some players that that probably don't get seen by
other colleges and maybe a guy wants to stay local

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and they're and they're a really good player. But that's
pretty impressive. That's awesome by the coaching staff to develop
these young men, to give them a chance to go
play pro ball, especially from a Division two school like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
I mean, I mean a number that stands out here
is twenty seven draftings since they became a Division two school.
Is remarkable and curely obviously it was drafted in the
seventeenth round, so and not like many years ago and
had to draft in like rown thirty to forty.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Or to be in the top twenty. That's so remarkable.
To this whole story, we'll send too much time on it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
We have a lot of other things I want to
get to. We want to make sure we got this
in here as well. Now little Marylin's note here, and
that's this. When they faced the Dodgers this spring in LA,
the payroll gap was estimated around Get this, the Dodgers
paid four hundred and six point five million, and that's
what the gap is. They had four hundred and seventy

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six million Miami sixty nine million. You're talking about the
difference between night and day. This is just one of
those things that is indeed ninety days. So the difference
at four hundred and six point five million the Dodger
at four seventy six Marlin's sixty nine million. Needless to say,
when we talked about them last week, they really struggled
in the last week and now we know that they

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are pretenders. That's what I mentioned that as well. Who's
coming to play the Marlins this weekend none other than
the Toronto Blue Days. But according to Ken Rosenthal, sixty
five percent of black Durero Junior's contract as a signing bonus.
Three twenty five million of that five hundred million is
not his salary. The Blue Jays are coming to town

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to face the Miami Marylands on the twenty second and
twenty fourth. Now, let me give you a little bit
update on career's numbers in the last twenty seven games.
Got three seventy four averages first in the American League
with a minimum, forty five at bat nineteen extra base
hit first in the AL, seventy five total bases first
in the AL, and twenty three runs scored first. And

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they it's safe to say that Vladimer Guru has been
worth the money.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Scalp.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Yeah, I mean he's he's uh, he's a great hitter.
I mean I like the sign by those guys. You know,
I like Blad. He's he's a guy that goes up there.
He's a power hitter in the lineup that is a threat.
Right when anytime you have that, pitching staffs have to

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adjust and the hitters before them and the hitters after
them getting better pitches. So to have a guy like
that in your lineup, you have to lock him up
and you have to sign him, and you kind of
got to build around those type guys. And they've done
a great job and they're prospering because of it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
All Right, So the answer to your question, Skip is
Govi's Eastern transition to Division two in two thousand and two.
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
So that's pretty awesome. They're getting more than one a year.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Yeah, that's unbelievable. For sure. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Okay, as we're going to turn these last few topics
into rapid fire, canting some thoughts about the investment that
is called lad Junior and everything that we're talking about.
That three hundred and sixty five percent is his signing bonus.
He's getting a lot of it up front.

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
Good for him, because let's face it, that's what you
as a player, that's what you want because in case
you get injured or anything like that, you want upfront money.
I'd like to see more contracts which which are more
incentive based, but let's face it, the players want more
upfront money right from the start.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
I'm just glad that they were to sign him because
now Canada has a guy as an athlete that they
can call their own and that's a face of that country.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
And Blanton Royal Junior is at okay, Eric.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
I mean, good for Blood.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
I mean he's a power hitter and he's proven that
he's a power hitter. He's been an All Star and
I think just about every year so far, and you know,
it's it's nice to see him, but it's nice to
see him stay with one team because it's very rare
nowadays you've got guys staying with one team. It just
it just doesn't happen anymore. You know, you Friendsy comes around,
next to you know, boom, they're signed with the Yankee Dodgers, Mets, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
But good for him for staying.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
Obviously, they get themselves an icon, which is something I
think they haven't really had that the Blue Jays particularly
haven't had really since since you know, you could probably
make probably make the argument Roy Holliday was you could
you could, you could make that argument, but they've never
really had that guy who's stuck around most of the time.
It's they've seen the guy go somewhere else who could

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have been the icon. But the organization doesn't feel like
signing him. But good good for Hippers Dan obviously it's uh,
you know, he's clearly helped the blue Jays have a
really nice bounce back year this year, so you know,
we'll see what happens when it comes to the postseason.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Suret.

Speaker 6 (01:32:12):
Yeah, good good for him, you know, for being he'll
likely be a lifetime Blue Jay.

Speaker 9 (01:32:17):
I think before he re signed, you know, there was
talk that both the Mets and Yankees were in play
for him after because he would have been a free
agent after this year and Yankees signing Paul Goldsmith at
Goldsmith Schmidt at the time was like, he'll play first
for a year and then we'll sign Vlad And the
Mets also they would have that year stop gap and
signed him for next year. But yeah, good for him,

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hopefully that this will be what the blue Jay franchise
needs and all the best of him.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
He's a great player.

Speaker 7 (01:32:46):
Rob Yeah, Toronto had to sign him. He's a franchise player,
that's it. And you know, if they didn't sign him,
the Mets and the Yankees, depending on what the Mets
were going to do with Alonzo anyway, Mets and Yankees
would have been right on him. So, you know, good
for Toronto, good for a Lad. They're great, great together.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Yeah, good for Toronto, good good for Vlad, and good
for me. If I get into a battle with your
loud mouth on Friday night and I'm giving and I'm
making him eat Blue Jay that night, this is just
another way to build up that Friday night that everybody's
looking forward to watching the Motor City Manmouth and the
New York City loud Mouth, O Leon Rob and Chris's Network.

(01:33:30):
All right, a few more, a few more competes to
get to tell Roly is a stud. He's got forty
seven all wrong. Do you believe that this guy is
a thoroughbred skip?

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
I mean, I you know, for a catcher to be
doing what he's doing and and being able to sit
back there every night and take a beating, that's amazing.
You know, I love seeing catchers thrive. You know, obviously
I'm a big fan of catcher since I was a
pitching guy, and I understand how tough that position is.
There's a reason they become manager because they have to

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take a brunt of the load off of the rest
of the team. Right You're in every pitching meeting, every
hitting meeting. You're involved in everything that goes on, and
then you have to go out there catch bullpens to
stay sharp. You got to get in the cage and
take reps to be a successful hitter. And that is

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very impressive to be able to put up the power
numbers that he's doing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
For sure, say Scott, if you're speaking my language only,
I never put up the power numbers. All I did
was get on the umpires and thes and do everything
you didn't want to do. But you're speaking my language.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
I'm cur.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
You were a slap hitter like Ty Cobb. You probably
had a lot of stolen bases.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Well, actually, my office is so bad. They had me
bunt a lot, and it really was bad. I had
to butt a lot to sacrifice myself. But I did
everything else he said. I was in the bullpen, I
was out there talking to my picture. I was getting
the way of balls and casey umpire, give me what

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I want. But we had a good relationship. Give me
what I want and I'll protect. If you don't, you're
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
But no, you know I was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
I wasn't really considered very good speed either, what you
call turtle speed. Okay, it was my commerce speed. Yeah, yeah,
I had my I had my commerce serve my Chuck
Taylor's back. Then anybody knows anything about the commerce Chuck
Taylor's I'll know. Oh yeah, No, I you're speaking my
language as a catcher. But I like where you're coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
But they say to say that that this cal Rawley
is a thoroughbred, and I don't know if he's secretariat
or not, but he is awfully good and he's bashing
a lot of home runs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Candy.

Speaker 8 (01:35:44):
So, as a former catcher and pitcher, I've done both,
I'm kind of surprised that more catchers don't hit more
of the long ball and the power, because they really
have to have strong legs. If you're gonna, you know,
crouch in that position for the game. They're at advantage
point because they're behind the plate. They know what kind

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of balls and strikes the umpire is calling on any
given night, so they can kind of protect that. But
kudos to him because you know, playing that position is
grueling because you're involved all the time. But in that regard,
you're also really involved in the game at all times

(01:36:26):
because you're always on during you know, when you're catching,
you're involved in Okay, what hitter is up? What is
what is the pitch that he you know was most
likely to hit. But so you see all of the
pitches that are coming one way or the other. So

(01:36:48):
I think, uh, kudos to him. I want to see
more of it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
Okay, Eric, I mean, being a catcher is not easy, man.
You got to manage the pitching staff. You got to
know what the the best pitches that those pitchers throw
because you and you got to be in sync with them,
which is which is never easy, especially in the heat
of the game. And not only not only that, you're
basically you you know, you got to go into you're
taking balls right off the chest and the legs and

(01:37:16):
the thighs and everywhere else and something and occasionally occasionally
the face, which is never easy. I mean, it's it's
a hard position to play. Oh yeah, try maintaining a
little bit of offense. While while you're the one getting
getting beat up behind the play and also managing the umpire,
which you know, with with some of them, is not
easy to do. But you know, the fact that he's
doing what he's doing, He's he's bashed forty seven home runs.

(01:37:40):
He's gonna break salvad Orperez the record, another guy who
could really bash from behind the play. But the fact
he's doing it at like the pace that he's doing it,
it's unbelievable. And you know he's he's definitely has you know,
if he keeps going, he definitely will have a shot
at getting close to Aaron Judges record. Not sure if
he'll not sure if he'll do it, but the fact
that the fact that's happening with him as a catcher

(01:38:01):
and catching regularly, I might add, it's it's it's unbelievable.
And if you had to, if you had to pick
an MVP m VP like right now, I'd pick him
over Aaron Judge.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Stuart.

Speaker 9 (01:38:13):
I think the Mariners have to be careful with his workload,
especially for the rest of the season. They want to
make sure he's healthy, you know, if they want to
make a playoff push, and also for his future.

Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
How long can he catch? You want to give him
some days where he DHS.

Speaker 9 (01:38:29):
Maybe at some point he moves over the first base
part time, but you want him to have a long
career or fruitful career, and nowadays it's just tough to
do that primarily as a catcher. I think the days
of seeing Yogi Berra and even Johnny Bench catch all
those games, I think that I think they're done, and
I don't think you'll see him catch regularly that much longer.

(01:38:51):
I think will either get moved to more of a
d H or maybe a first base kind of role.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
I already call you, did I think I did? Yes, sir, A.

Speaker 7 (01:39:02):
Hey, listen, the big dumper right fun to watch, All
Star Game, home run Derby winner, great for Seattle, great
for baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Of course, they have to be careful with him. He's
a catcher.

Speaker 7 (01:39:16):
He will have to definitely DH sometimes because you know
how rough that is on the body. But right now
he's fun to watch, and yeah, he you know, between
him and Judge, he's right up there so far for MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
All right, we were speak singing Josh Haters praises he
was twenty five or twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Unfortunately for Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
So he's been placed on the fifteen day injured list
with the shoulder strings too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
You don't know how long he's gonna be out. Skip.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
You're a pitching you're a pitching guy. What are your
thoughts about Josh Hater on the injured list?

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Yeah, hopefully it's something minor where he can just, you know,
kind of take a take a little bit of a breather.
There are times I've seen, you know, and I've been
with teams that have done this where they're really nothing
wrong with the guy at this point. That's probably one
of your best back end relievers where you just give
him a ten day break, Right, That's that's something that
goes on a lot. Let's let's give him ten days off.

(01:40:11):
We'll say he's got a little irritation, Let's put him
on the you know, the ghost il, and let's let's
see how he bounces back. So that definitely could be something,
but hopefully it's something minor because we all want to
see Josh Hayter pitching in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:40:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
He's he's electric. He's one of the best closers in baseball.
He's been doing it for quite quite some time now.
At an elite level, and we want him to get
back as soon as possible and continue. That's those saves.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
Andy.

Speaker 8 (01:40:44):
He's thirty one years old, he started back in twenty seventeen,
and he's still doing it as an elite. He's a
six time All Star, three time MLB First Team, three
time NL Reliever of the Year, NL Saves leader in
twenty twenty. He did pitch a combined and no hitter

(01:41:04):
combine no hitter on September eleventh, twenty twenty one. But yeah,
I agree, sometimes you just he's been pitching for so
long that he just might need a little bit of
a rest here. Do we miss him in Milwaukee, Absolutely,
but happy for him that he's still going strong.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
Deerk I you know, I mean, obviously we can definitely
see teams. Do teams do this all the time. I mean,
it's a no fact that people that people do it.
The question is you know how often you do it?
Otherwise you end up like Billy Eppler.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
But but but you know it's it. Could you know
who knows really know what it is? Because you won't know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:49):
Only the only people inside Houston Astros really know. I mean,
you know, I know Josh haters.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Electric.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
I've I remember I've seen I saw quite a bit
of him in Milwaukee. You know, first as Cory Canabels
set up Man and then later on he becomes the
best clothes he becomes best closer in the National League,
which shame shame on David Stearns are trading him when
he did that was probably his probably his biggest sin
at the end in Milwaukee. But you know, it's hope
hopefully he's back. I mean, he's obviously a very a

(01:42:17):
key piece of that squad. I mean, yeah, they got
other arms like guys like guys like Brian A. Bray,
you and people like that. But you know, he's no
Josh hater. So you know, hopefully, hopefully it's not too serious.
But you know, because you know it'd definitely be a
tough tough to overcome that when you go to the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Cory Enable, I interviewed him, year's a go with the
All Star Game. I wonder what he's doing these days.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
I don't know. I'm sure we'll find it out, all right, Stuart.

Speaker 9 (01:42:44):
My understanding is I think he's out for the rest
of the regular season, and they're hoping he'll be available
for the playoffs. That was what I had heard with
I think what you see now with pictures is just
the lifespan isn't there for durability, and he throws hard
great picture when he's on. You know, hopefully he recovers.
He could make an impact during the postseason. But all

(01:43:08):
this it isn't surprising. You know, pitchers get hurt. It
is I looked back in the days where Nolan Ryan
would throw like three hundred pitches and then he'd come
out and on three days rest and throw another three
hundred pitchers there wasn't anything with pitch counts nowadays.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
I think it's interesting the pitchers.

Speaker 9 (01:43:23):
Get babied a lot and they get hurt more, and
maybe because it's the regiment physically where they throw harder
and you know there's more of a strainer on the arm.
But hopefully Hayter comes back, he becomes an effective pitcher
in the postseason, because that's that's what the Astros really
need right now.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
I'll say one thing about Hater. He can pitch an
any here.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
I remember of years ago that he used to have
relievers that throw two or three innings, and this guy
can do two or three innings. But Yeah, maybe you're right.
They need to shut him down a little rest and
takes to say. I believe that Ash's gonna do with
the playoffs anyways. All right, Ronnie, a final word on it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
One more topic to go. It will be the Milwaukee Brewers.

Speaker 7 (01:43:59):
Yeah, still Stewart trite. They said that it looks like
he's out for the rest of the regular season. Hopefully
he's back for the playoffs because that's a big that's
a big loss of course for the Astros and and
everybody wants to see him in the postseason. So hopefully
things will be better by the end of the season.
But you know, I wouldn't count on it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Our final topic of the night Milaukee Brewers fourteen game
windustry snap. Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
I think they won one game today so to nothing,
so start a new one. But did they think that
that was in a doubleheader? But did they play their
best baseball skip in August?

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
Yeah? I mean, you know, anytime you when two weeks
worth of baseball in a row, that's that's pretty impressive.
You know. I think we talked about it the other day.
I was fortunate enough to be with the Indians when
we did twenty two in a row. I mean that's
you know, three weeks of just never losing. It's about
the most fun you could possibly have, you know. It's

(01:44:57):
so they definitely played their best baseball. The thing that
they're going to realize is after they after something like
that happens. Now, when you're you're finishing the season and
you're may have a couple of tough games, you're gonna
be able to overcome that mental you know, block that

(01:45:17):
that may be, Oh no, we're not playing good. No,
we won fourteen a row this year. We know what
we're doing. We're going to get into the playoffs and
we're going to make the deepest run we've ever made.
And I think that could happen. But just because of
the confidence of a fourteen game winning streak.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
So you don't think they've picked too early.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
No, I think I think, like we talked about it
the other day, it's still early enough where they can
have a little bit of a loll and try to
get back to their you know, fourteen game winning winning
streak waves.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Candy.

Speaker 8 (01:45:50):
Let's face it, they have been magical this year. The
Number fourteen hit his first home run to win their
fourteenth game, and they're finding different ways to win. Different
people are stepping up for them to win. Let's face it,
they gave Milwaukee because they've won twelve in a row.

(01:46:10):
George web Free Hamburgers on Wednesday. The picture before he
pitched in that game was nervous because he didn't want
to break the streak. They're they're playing loose, they're playing fun.
They're having some of the most fun that they've had.
They've talked about how friendly the guys that came in

(01:46:31):
at the trade deadline. We're talking about how friendly the team,
the locker room is and how well they were received,
and I think there's a lot to be said about that.
It's a small market. They don't pay I mean, they
don't have big guns, they don't have a big payroll.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
But they have fun.

Speaker 8 (01:46:48):
And I think they have a manager that really believes
in them, and you know, even when we you know,
I might question what he was doing, they find ways
to win. They play small ball at times, and that
was something that Craig Counsel didn't used to do. So
kudos to them. Kudos to Pat Murphy forgetting from motivating

(01:47:11):
his team and getting his team and just playing relaxed
like there's not the pressure on them, and I think
it's showing, showing, and I love to see it. Yes,
they won, and they beat the Cubs today seven nothing.
It was supposed to be a doubleheader. The second game
tonight got rained out, so they're going to play the
doubleheader tomorrow a one to one ten and a seven.

(01:47:33):
But it's a five game series down down in Wrigley
that they're playing right now. And that was the team
that was ahead of them by six and a half
games back in I think June or May or June.
They were ahead. You know, the Cubs were up on
the Brewers, and so for the Brewers to have this
kind of turnaround, it's just really awesome to see. And

(01:47:53):
they have a fan base that's that shows up. I mean,
Milwaukee had record rainfalls two weeks ago on a Sunday,
a week and a half ago, and yet we still
filled that state. And when I say they had record rainfalls,
they the parking lot. Half of the parking lot was underwater,
so they didn't even park there. There was There are

(01:48:16):
a lot of people whose basements are full of water,
and when I say that it went up to the
top step of their basement. Some people lost everything in
their basement. They had what they thought was like a
thousand year flood in some spots, and yet they filled
that stadium because they One of the smartest things that

(01:48:36):
Milwaukee did was put that state put that roof over
the stadium, because they're always guaranteed a game when they're
playing at that stadium, and their attendance is over I think,
averaging over thirty one thousand a game, which is just
really great for a small market.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Love it, Well, it wasn't a few weeks ago we
talked about the Astronome only having one rain out in
their history and Team seventy six right, well, they couldn't
even ring this one out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
But even though a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Of cars got soaked. Anyways, that was the real And
I'll tell you one thing. I think what Murphy won
a Manager of the Year award last year, he'd be
my odds on favorite to win it again. All right, Eric, ahead,
we were running out of time. We have about five
six minutes left to go, Eric, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
Well, well you got to give it to the Cardiac crew.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
I mean, the comeback wins a different hero every day,
and these are players that you're not thinking would be
who are not really All Star Calviard players set South
Freelick Isaac College, who came out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
Of nowhere, and it's looking like a Rookie of the
Year candidate.

Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
You got guys who just you know, they got you know,
they know, they know their small market, they know they're underdogs.
But man, it has been fun to watch the comeback
wins and you know, it's it's been great. I mean
it's great for baseball and the fact that you know,
at one point there were six games behind the Cubs,
now there are full nine games behind ahead the Cubs.
I mean, yeah, winning streaks all come to an end.

(01:49:58):
It's you know, it's just inevitab And the way they
lost the Reds was wasn't fun because.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
You know, at that point, fans were wondering, are we
ever going to lose again?

Speaker 5 (01:50:06):
But now you know, they they came, they came back
later and and just and just and just pounded the
Cubs seven and nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
And it's just been great to see.

Speaker 5 (01:50:16):
And and this team is you know, when I look
at their magic number, they're only thirty games away from
taking home another National League Central title, and uh.

Speaker 4 (01:50:24):
Just creating earth. They creating more waves in the baseball world.
It's just been fun to watch.

Speaker 9 (01:50:30):
Sure, you know, you've seen a lot of teams who
have great regular seasons and then the playoffs happen, and
the playoffs are a whole different beast. The Brewers, in
all likelihood, are going to face a team in their
first round that is coming out of a wildcard series,
and we'll have a little bit of momentum going into
the Brewers series, and they got to be careful. They're
not going to be as hot as they are now. Honestly, though,

(01:50:51):
if the Mets can't win it, I wouldn't mind seeing
the Brewers win it, especially you know, you have the
Bob Yucker factor.

Speaker 6 (01:50:57):
I think you know, you know, win one for the Uke.
So I would like to see it.

Speaker 9 (01:51:00):
But they got to be careful because they're going to
face teams that are out to get them, and their
first round playoff opponent is going to be a team
that's coming out of a playoff win likely.

Speaker 7 (01:51:11):
Rob and I agree, what a great streak. I give
all the credit to I give a lot of credit
to Pat Murphy because he's leading this team that last
year the Mets shocked him in the postseason. All right,
Alonzo's home run shocked them and they came back. He
has them going this year, so I have to give
them credit for that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
And you know, I like them as a team.

Speaker 7 (01:51:32):
I like them as a team. And what Stewart said,
you know, if the if the Mets aren't there, I
wouldn't mind seeing Milwaukee was the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Last time there were nineteen eighty two, right when they
lost to the Saint Louis Colonels.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
I believe well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
I only have two words to describe the Milwaukee Brewers
right now. Right house money, house money. I can play loose.
They wn't want anythings. It's eighty two. How many people
were born I know, Eric, you were born that Worria.
I mean people out there listening to it and watching
this all over the worldwide network or watching it. They're

(01:52:08):
out house money, Pat Murphy, no problem. Maybe one of
these days I'll get an interview. Even I had two
communications staff screw it up initially. But because God delays
does not mean that God denis.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
I'll try.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
If I don't, it won't be the worst thing I
ever did. But welcome to modern day media, where today's
communications staffs don't always get it right.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
Skip You're not missing nothing, brother, You.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
And I.

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
They threw the house money, they get to the World Series.
That they get to the World Series, they win it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Oh, Nelly, I can only imagine that. I call it
Miller Park will be the biggest beer can on the planet.
American family field doesn't cut it for me. I didn't
get married in the American family field people. I got
married in Miller Park. And that's my story and I'm
sticking to it. Go ahead, Eric, be where we wrap

(01:53:03):
it up.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
I was going to say, if that happens, I'm sure
I'm gonna think I'm gonna wake up and think that
there's an earthquake in my apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
All right, Well, the bottom line is around house money.
But that's ad.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
That does it for this edition one hundred and sits
at baseball time. Well, we're not done yet. We're gonna
let skip go ahead and talk about his lessons. And
also I want you to mention something you mentioned on
Facebook real quick that Shange Ranch is available for other
days as well. We only have a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
Uff to go all the way around the horn and
make it quick.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Yeah, I have a beautiful farm slash ranch down here
in Mississippi. If anybody's looking to have a wedding. We're
going to open that up to weddings in the spring
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Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
I'm in the middle of trying to build up a
big facility where I'm going to host players for up
to six or seven days from all over the country
to really teach them the ins and outs of pitching.
So I'm really excited about that. We got a lot
of good things going on, and of course Scott and
now we'll be doing our podcast on Saturdays here probably

(01:54:07):
in a couple of weeks. Right, We're gonna get some
great guests, some ex players, some ex coaches, and really
pick the brains up some great major league players.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Yeah, I think we're targeting August thirtieth. The only reason
why delayed is I'm just trying to get more audio providers.
But we've already got iHeart in our pocket already and
Amazon that's a big coup for us to begin with.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
I'm just trying to add a couple more.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
And of course Rob and Chris are looking forward to
having us on our show tonight before we do Round two.
And with that said, I'm gonna transition over to Rob.
Go ahead, Rob, why don't you put it all out
there for your show, and all that other stuff will
go to Stuart. We'll go to Eric and Candy with
a quick wrap up.

Speaker 7 (01:54:43):
All right, Thanks Scott.

Speaker 6 (01:54:44):
Great show, guys.

Speaker 7 (01:54:46):
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(01:55:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
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Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
These guys are partners of us, and I'm proud of Robin,
Chris and I and Candy and I'll have a partnership
of course, you guys around with my manager and all
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Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
And I should point out Seward Hack was also on
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early stages, and he was really helping me out a lot.
Now he sees that we've graduated. We got a lot
of great people in.

Speaker 6 (01:56:12):
This back when we only had three stitches, right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Yeah, at all things that way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Anyway, now you get to now you get to meet
my partner in crime, Mickey Kellaway or a manager, and
now you get to talk will be part of any
tell me what Eric?

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
Wrap it up?

Speaker 5 (01:56:25):
And then Candy, Well, you can follow me on my
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Speaker 4 (01:56:35):
And you think I don't like your team, I probably
don't great.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
So sorry, can't you take it?

Speaker 8 (01:56:40):
You do like my team? That's the good thor.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
They only went big objective, I don't like them.

Speaker 8 (01:56:49):
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Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
Did I do it?

Speaker 8 (01:57:32):
Did I accomplish it?

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Great job, Candy, fancast at Candy, And you know what,
I want you to put our logo for skip show.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
I don't know if you can get it up there,
show up there, you go talk it bag.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Look at that way.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
That's I'm telling you. I knew we get that up here.
We don't have a lot of time left to go.
That does it for this edition?

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
Already to just bank well talk, I'll be half of
my manager. Make you callaway, Candy. Oh she's my everything. Okay,
good stuff. I have to say that, Okay, but I
still say Miller Park, I'm not going to sit Eric,
catch Stuart Hack, rob Let's get ready to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Rumble Friday night. I'm ready something, I'm ready.

Speaker 8 (01:58:21):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
Oh yeah, I'm telling you I'm looking forward to this.
I know I'm not gonna sleep that night, but man,
I'm gonna leave you everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
On this note. Okay, make your own music.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
Not only am I gonna leave you on that. I'll
sleep when the time comes. I'm not letting her to
do that. When I hit my cockree nap, I'm not
ready to do that yet. But I'm gonna tell you
last one more time. Make your own kind of music,
because I'm gonna be loud to sell Friday night. I
guarantee that I don't know it's coming.

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
Out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
I'm right, get ready to rumble. Is that trademark that
doesn't matter. I'm talking about it coming out of my mouse.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
That does that work? Don see next Tuesday,

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