World Baseball Classic Updates - Looking Back in MLB History - 108 Stitches, Baseball Talk

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Happy money, everybody. I forget about honight football. We got
Monday Night Pankfel tomorrow at City mad Mouth and his
incredible Hall of Fame crew. We will be talking about
the Baseball Hall of Fame next week, but we'll talk
about the business at hand, and I'll do it with
an incredible catch for George Iicorn.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Good to be back with you, Scott and Katie Embling.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Always a pleasure talking baseball with you fine gentlemen, and.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
My manager and set up Barry Foot.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Howdy, Hattie. Thanks Scott for the invite.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Thanks for being on. Barry and Eric Katz my eventual
successor on this show.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Thanks Scott.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Let's let's not let's not wish for that too quickly.
Now I've still got a lot to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, this kid learns here, tey, he's a quick study.

Speaker 7 (01:10):
And my uncle Warren, thank you, Scott. Great to be here.
Enjoy it. I look forward every Monday or every Monday night. O.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hey, I got a dream team. All right, Well, let's
get to the business at hand. Okay. According to Jacob
Runner of Baseball America, University of Tennessee pitching coach Frank
Anderson is headed to the Giants that joined Tony Vittello's
coaching staff. Anderson's role hasn't been determined. We've talked about
Vattella before, so we'll start off with you, George. He

(01:39):
brings his pitching coach with some thoughts. Well, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's it's good the familiarity. There's a lot to be
said for that. You know, when you're beginning a new
assignment or taking a new job as a manager or
a coach, and you want to surround yourself with people
if you can. It's not we know it's not all possible,
but if you can at least a few of them,
and I think that's a good move. And he should
help the Giants out, and you know there's new blood.

(02:07):
You know, there's new new ideas, new coaching. I don't
have to tell Barry and war on this, but there's
so much goodness sometimes when you surround yourself with successful people.
You know, unfortunately you're not going to bring guys that
kind of feeled under your leadership. But when you surround
yourself with success and people you know that are going

(02:27):
to help the ball club, I'm all for it, I
really am. I think you'll do well.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Candy when coaches coach, like you know, how they coach
and you work well together, you're going to bring those
guys with you to help have more success. So it
makes sense that he would bring a guy that he's
worked with before and have success with before to their staff, go.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
To my manager, of Barry.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
The manager should be able to pick his staff first
of all, and the most important person owned the staff
is pitching coach. So if he's going to be successful,
which I think it's a tall order, but hopefully I'm wrong,
he needs to have his own pitching coach.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Eric.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
I think it's important because number One, he's worked with
them before. Number you know, historically though, when you see
when you see managers and coaches going to the next
level and then they win a championship at like whatever
level they're playing on, they often bring their pitching coach
with them, and it's you know, it's something that I
think he had to do because he needs somebody familiar

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there to kind of guide him in the right direction.
Although they both got their work cut out for him
because San Francisco now has to climb Mount Los Angeles
in the NL West.

Speaker 9 (03:50):
Yeah, well, yeah, there's no question they've they've had great
success together, you know, and anytime two people work like
that together, of course he would obviously want to bring
him to San Francisco with him with somebody that he's
familiar with. So I mean, it's it's a great fit
for both of them. You know, they've they've had great
success at Tennessee. They turned Tennessee and from a sec

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also ran into a power in the state during the
whole College World Series and everything. And Frank comes from
a great you knows, had a hunter and something pitchers
that have been drafted. He has had ten first round selections,
so he knows, he knows his stuff, you know. And
that's where I learned to pitch. I learned to pitch
in college. I was taught by my coach, Bob Bennett

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Fresno State, and then I went out in the minor
leagues and applied what he taught me.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Now, let's go on to the Saint Louis Cardinals. They've
obviously missed the postseason three straight years. What could be
expected of them in the offseason?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
George, Well, where do we start? I mean, they need
a lot of help, both on the defensive side and
the offensive side. I mean, you know, Saint Louis to me,
is one of those marquee franchises. You know, talk about
cities that have great teams and great history. Saint Louis
is right there at the top of my list. And

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I really think that they've got to get some more
help in the bullpen, and they also need to get
if they can pick up another starter or two. I mean,
it's a tall order. It is really a tall order.
But you know what Cardinals management, and I'm going back
to Bush Senior, I mean, going back through the decades,
even you know, they've not been afraid to go out
and spend money where they have to, and one of

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that is due to the fact that they draw such
great crowds and they have really super attendance most of
the time. But you hit the point right on the
head there, Scott. That's on Saint Louis like to miss
three years in a row, and obviously there's going to
have to be a lot of action starting with the
winner Baseball Mantis. Look, but I do look for the
Cardinals to be active, especially in the pitching area, but

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also on the heading side as well.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm going to go back to the first topic for
a moment. I couldn't agree with everybody more. First of all,
you bring a guy in who's a brand new guy,
you bring in someone from his old place. He definitely
want to familiar familiarity with a guy like him. And
I think a lot of times the Cardinals of what
the sport is, you're gonna find coaches bringing in other
people so they're able that they've been able to work
with them. So that's a great point. As far as

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the Cardinals have a lot of work to do. The
attendance has definitely gone down, and they need the Baseball
Winter Meetings and the worst way to go out there
and try to generate some excitem because Saint Louis wanted
better sports, deafault towns in America, Candy.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
They're kind of in a rebuild like they just haven't
been doing as well now. The interesting thing will be,
you will will they trade Wilson Contreras, who had a
no trade clause in his contract, but is more open
now to actually being traded. Let's face it, he wants

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to win now. And the Cardinals they're in a tough division,
first of all, and they're they're rebuilding now, and I
think they've got a lot of little holes that they
need to fill to be competitive.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
Erry they're they're rebuilding. It's gonna take them a while.
They got a lot of holes to feel. They got
Saronatto who wants to leave, and you know, it's just
one of those situations that happens once in a while.
And it's a great franchise and you know, great fan base,
probably some of the most loyal fans in all of
the sports. So they'll get it turned around, but it

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probably won't be quickly. It'll probably take them some time.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Eric, I mean, this offseason it's about it's about shedding
the vets. You know, they're trying to kind of commence
some guys with no trade clauses who to wave them
and go to a contender, so that way, that way
Saint Louis can start acquiring some prospects for their minor
league system. Man, this minor league system has always been
Saint Louis's bread and butter. Countless players come through their

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Albert Foroles, got Rolling, Jim Edmonds stand usual, just to
name a few.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
However, it's fought off in recent years.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
I mean, now they've had more prospect busts than they
have had successes, and so this team needs needs prospects,
and I think they're they're they're rebuilding. I know they
got Heim Bloom, who who you know, did a fantastic
job with the Raised farm system and even even did
some good things with them with the Boston Red Sox
who who unfortunately fired him because John Henry can't help himself.

(08:22):
But it's it's a you know, it's unfortunately. You know,
what happens not the first time the Cardinals have missed
the playoffs and consecutive years. It happened like not too
long ago, from what I believe about till about I
think just before, just before Mike Shilt took over full
full time and so but you know, it happens the
Cardinals have gone.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
The Cardinals have gone through long periods of time before
where they haven't been contending. Take the early Tony LaRussa
years for example.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
So you know, I would I wouldn't expect them to
be out of be out of it for long because
they're one of the most consistent teams in baseball.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
One.

Speaker 9 (08:56):
Well, that's the one thing you don't hear about the
Cardinals is they have a rebuilt They've they've just had
on and adding some track usually from year to year.
But from what I see, it all started when Molina retired.
That's when they started downward trend. And like Barry being
an next catcher, knows, Hey, that's the most important spot

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on the ball club.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
You know.

Speaker 9 (09:18):
You've got to have a catcher that runs that pitching staff,
you know, And it's taking them a while to get somebody.
And then with Conferis and Aaronatto, the you know, are
they staying or are they going?

Speaker 7 (09:29):
You know?

Speaker 9 (09:29):
So the team has been influx for a few years now,
and I know they'll turn it around because it is.
It's a great fan base. It's one of the most
places he It's the place I enjoyed going in and
playing it was there were fun people to play in
front of them.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, Scott Rowland was one heck of a player when
he did play there, for sure. Obviously he's a big
part of yeah success for sure. Oh he sure was.
Let's talk about a guy I'm all too familiar with
the team of Skip schu Mucker. What can be effected
from the Texas Rangers for the twenty twenty sixth season. Obviously,
he's the new manager, Skip Schumacher. He takes over for
Bruce Bochi will start off with you, George Skip Schumacher.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, first of all, I was surprised that both you
didn't have better success. But again you're talking about a
team that has too many, you know, quite a few
holes to plug. I've always liked Skip as a manager.
I thought he's done a good job, decent job, and
I really think that Texas is one of those franchises

(10:28):
that you know, in the past, has spent a lot
of money and they haven't had really much success except
for a few I'm and Ronnie Washington was really good
back in the day with them, But I really think
that Skip's a good guy. Again, it's the managerial carousel.
He's obviously one of the biggest names there. Okay, when
you're looking for a skipper, I mean, this guy's got

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a lot of experience, so I'm looking for for good
things from them. But once again, you know they've got
they got some holes to plug before they can be
considered serious contender, is my point.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Michael, George, George All, Bruce, he did, by the way,
just so you know, as he won a World Chaies championship. Okay,
so you know he's the only one that's ever done
it just in case you for that, Okay, But anyways,
just think about it, George. Okay, I'm not I have
other ways to come down on you, but I won't.
I'll give you the little least there. Okay, go ahead,
but I'll start as Skip Schumacher, Well, I work with
him in Miami. Did a decent job here, but he

(11:23):
was a victim of a change at the general manager
position in Miami. And obviously I'm not going to go
in any details tonight. I wants Dad track and keep
ocal warning and as many topics as I can before
he has to bult. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Candy as National League Manager of the Year award winner
in twenty twenty three, what Skip Schumacher did for the
Marlins when the Marlins were let's face it, they're kind
of laughing stock, I would say of the National League.
I mean, they don't spend a lot of money. They

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there are a hodgepodge of you know, players, and what
Skip did was to rally and get them. The owner
doesn't give him much to work with in Miami, he didn't,
and so what he did to get them to get
that National League Manager of the Year he did a lot.
So I expect great things out of him in Texas.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
Perry Been's on pitching. The pitchers can hold up, they'll
be okay. I don't see him being contenders. And there's
a little bit of a red flag.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
When Boachie leaves.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
I think he probably was was feeling that maybe they'd
done all they could do and what they had to
work with.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
And Bochie's the greatest.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
Playoff World Series manager in history, you know, don't I
don't even know if he's five hundred career average overall
wins and losses, but he's won four World Series. So
he's a Hall of Fame manager. And for him to
leave that that tells me there's something there that.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
He didn't like.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. You're right, Perry. His money
in the pullseasons for sure.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Eric, Well, you know, with with boach with Bochi doo,
let's keep Let's keep in mind though, especially towards the
end there in San Diego, when the when, the when,
the part the Padres had a very Marlins like fire
sale and ult and ultimately the poor the poor guy
was screwed going forward. But I will say that was
Skip Schumacher. You know, I think that I'm not expecting

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him to contend. This team's kind of in transition right now.
They've been stuck in the middle ever since they won
the World Series, and I think the nucleus has kind
of run dry there. Yeah, they got Brandon Nimo, but
that was more or less a salary dump because they
would rather take take a take a decent Brandon Nimo
over what has become a declining Marcus Semion. But I

(13:44):
think that you know what we're gonna expect here is
he's probably he's he's.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Gonna get more wins out of him than people think.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
But I don't see them contending so like so, so
the first year I think is all about just you know,
figuring out what he has.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
More right, I agree with that. You know, he's got
a he's coming in fresh face, and a lot of
times a new manager can change things, change the way
the team run is run. And you know, but but
like Barry said, with Bochie leaving, you know there's a
red flag there. So obviously they're not bringing in the

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players that they need to contend. You know, they're in
a pretty weak division. The only team in that division
that's decent right now, Seattle Houston's falling on hard times
in California and Oakland. I don't think either one of
them know what they're doing. They're just kind of bloundering,
both of them. So they are in an easier division,
but they still they don't have enough players to work
with to even be a contender. You know, they may

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make the playoffs, but they'd be a first round out
if they did.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Good points. Okay, all right, Well, obviously last week we
talked a little bit about umpiring, and I'll tell you what,
there's a guy that went too happy with it gets
thrown out of an awful lot of games. I'm referring
to New York Kinkey's manager in boot who said, you
f stink. If everyone knows that is what it means,
you know what I means. It's okay, but he went
off on the umpiring crew in New York's loss to

(15:08):
the Astros early during the season. The Yankees manager straight
up was just shouting an umpire Brian Waltz's face. As
we mentioned last week, the ABS robot system will be
used on a limited basis, with each team getting two
challenges per game. So again, we all know that Aaron
Boone hasn't been shy about getting thrown out. But let's

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talk about position, George, that Aaron was in. He was
arguing with about an Atro's call. And I know it's
all way back, but I like to talk about what
Aaron mentions because you're the guy that obviously played the
game of baseball and now he's managing it. So take
it from there, George.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, when you take the profanity out of it, and
you you take the emotion out of it, I'm sure.
I'm sure Aaron is one of the guys in baseball
and that knows a lot about balls and strikes and calls.
You know. I respect, I respect people like that that

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have a gripe, have a concern, let's say, not necessarily
a gripe in one instance or one game, but an
overall concern about the quality of umpiring. And I've said
this before. They've lost a lot of umpires in the
last ten or less years that have quit. They've now quit.
Most of the veterans staff is gone. So what does
that mean?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
That means?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
It could mean two things. It could mean that they're
tired of it, they're tired of bs the umpires, But
that's not the important The important part is is to
do they have the quality the right young umpires that
they are training and that they are advancing to the
major league level. That's the question mark I have. I'm
not convinced that these guys are the quality that some

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of the guys were in the past. That being said,
then you've got to get yourself a committee. You've got
to get yourself some training, and you've got to get
a good leader to do that. And and you know,
I think the managers can help out and making umpires
better if there's cooperation and communication, and that's something that
I think is lacking in the baseball world the major

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league level. They've got to have better umpires, but they've
got to have the inputs. What are the things that
are needed besides balls and strikes. But yes, the new
system will be uh will be used, and these guys
are going to have to show that they belong in
the big leagus or else to get them out of there.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Candy, I think sometimes what sometimes what a manager does
is he can he can go there to argue a call,
partly to do it to rally to your team behind you,
maybe to give them a break, maybe to cool them off.
But maybe to just show them support that you have

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the players back as well. And yes, maybe Aaron takes
it to a different level. I get that we might
not always agree with the language he used and everything
like that, but sometimes it's something to be said that
he goes and he fights for his players as well.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So question, Hugh Burry, how would you like to go
ahead and play for a guy like Karen Boone? You
obviously know the petition on balls and strikes, So I'm
going to break this down very two ways. One where
your talks about the fact they had that umpire and
use the life of language, and two would you like
to play for a guy like Karon Boom?

Speaker 8 (18:26):
Well, both Warrener and I watched Aaron Boone and Red
Boom grow up running around the field at Veterans Stadium,
and I never knew that he was going to have
such a potty math when he was a young kid. Really,
but you know, the third generation major league player, his
father was an All Star, his grandfather was an All Star,
so he's got the right lineage he's under. You know,

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you're under incredible pressure in New York, right, and I'm
sure that brings out a lot of the you know,
pressure on him to try to keep the team rolling
and all, but I'm firing is bad. It's much worse
when Warner and I would play it in my opinion
just watching the umpire. And the other thing is is
umpire's got a lot of power.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Now.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
It's hard to fire an umpire. It's hard to get
rid of an umpire if you want to get rid
of so you know it. You just look at some
of the umpires they've gotten rid of. What it took
for them just to fire a guy like Hernandez who
was awful for many years, and you never could get
rid of them because you know, they have their own
association and they it's very, very difficult to get rid

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of an umpire.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So that the second half the question is would you
or would you not want to play for very I
mean Aaron Boom.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
Look at the big league level, I don't mind.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
I don't care who I'm playing for.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
We play with some really dummy managers in the big
leagues and one and I played.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
With good managers and loss.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
I played for Geene Walka I thought was like at
another level as far as understanding the game from everybody else,
and he never won, so I think Booney's done a
good job. I'd have no problem playing for any He's
a professional guy. He comes from a professional family, so
I don't I think it'd probably be a pleasure playing
for him, Okay, Eric.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I mean, let's be honest.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
I think it's the only time ever is when the
when the world agreed on something was when Angel Hernandez
we finally left Major League Baseball. It was probably it
was probably the only time you'll ever see that in
your lifetimes. But yeah, as far as umpires go, I mean,
I'm happy the ABS systems in place.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
We've had the technology to do it.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
I mean obviously now nowadays, though, I mean, you know,
we can kind of correct the mistakes that often happened.
But you know, but as far as like umpire goes,
it's been a problem.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
It's been a problem for a while.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
I mean, there's still a bunch of bet despite Angel
Hernandez leaving. We still got some bad apples in there,
we really do. And as far as Aaron Boone getting
tossed doesn't surprise me. You know, he's in the top
he it didn't take him long to become being number
thirtieth all time in ejections so you know, so he's
he's already off to a rip roaring start in terms
of trying to get up to Bobby Cox level. But

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you know, as far as as far as what Aaron
Boone says that the umpires, I mean, Larry Boa once
wrote a book called Bleep, so that probably that probably
explains all you all you need to know about him stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I don't know what you gotta follow him?

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Can I follow that?

Speaker 5 (21:23):
You happen to read the book?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
No?

Speaker 7 (21:25):
I didn't, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Going to look for it. He's in it.

Speaker 9 (21:32):
You know, being in New York is a totally different
place than any just about anywhere else in baseball. You know,
he's a huge, huge amount of scrutiny. You know, if
he was in Minnesota, nobody would even be talking about it.
But yeah, he's he's from a you know, a baseball family,
three third generation. Yeah, and he's been around the game
all his life and he knows the game. And you know,

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he'd be fun to play for, you know, he because
he knows the game, he knows how to go, and
he's and they basically when he gets thrown out, he's covering,
he's back in his players. You know, a lot of
times the fire players get fired up, but the manager
gets kicked out of the game. I mean it gives
you that just a little spike him in adrenaline, just
you know, cover him.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
He's covering you. You got to cover him back.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, nothing like the old adrenaline way to get motivated. George,
will take you a town your own two fam familiar with,
and that Detroit. During the postseason, the Tigers are thirteen
up fifty seven down, thirteen for fifty seven. Excuse me,
with runners in scoring position this past postseason, this is
obviously something to watch. What do you think they're going
to be doing during the off season at the fayball

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letter meetings, George, what have you heard?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think the Tigers, first of all, it's not from
lack of trying. I know, aj surrounded himself with a
good staff and he's trying to think more small ball
in some of the scoring opportunities. I mean that they have.
The problem is is that the Tigers are like a
lot of teams when they're trying to slug their way
to a win, and you got to you got to

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realize that they these runners, You're just never gonna win.
If that's consistent, and that poor statistic sticks out like
a sore thumb for Tiger fans and for the team itself.
I think that they're going to have to fine tune
that roster a little bit. You know, the whole thing
is up in the air about schoolble whether they're going
to try to move them now or wait or or

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god forbid, maybe try to sign them. But we don't
know that is. It's just going to be a fine tuning,
I think. But they've got to get They got to
get better hitters, rent production. You just can't rely on
the long ball. And then they got too many guys
on that team that do that. Riley Green does it
a lot, tollericlsm does it a lot. Meadows, I mean,
you know, Carpenter, I mean, these guys are home run hitters,

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most of them. But you've got to get those runners in.
There's no question about that, Scott. If they don't improve
that stat they're done for next year already. They don't
want that to happen, and.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
We all know that Trek school has certainly been a
topic of conversation. They will. It's either one to get
that contracts extended or two, they have to get value
for him. We'll obviously have more information by the next
Monday's show about what they've done, because I know, having
covered the Baseball Winter Meetings on a couple of the cases,
a lot of stuff happens, and sometimes it doesn't. If
it doesn't, it happens after the fact, after these people

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have spoken.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Candy, you guys are in a catch twenty two because
what do you do with Trek Scuoble. He has one
year left on his contract. He wants to stay at Tiger,
but he also is going to command a lot of
money and there's going to be a lot of interest
out there. So the question is is do you pay
him the money? Do you have enough money to pay

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him and to pay others on the team, So it's
not just him because he can't he's not out there
doing it all by himself. So you need to find
do you have enough money to pay him to pay others?
Can you sign free their basement? Alex Brigman, I mean,
I know that's going to toss around right now out there.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think you guys need more help around the starting rotation.
You're bullpen because Terrek's google can't stay in the game
for the whole time, and then you probably need a
corner outfielder spot to help with that bat. Those are
those are the common things that the needs that I
think you guys have right now. But the biggest question

(25:25):
is you got to decide what you're gonna do with
Derek's trek schouble, So then the other dominoes can fall great.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Points, kn't all right, Barry, I trade him.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
I'd get them all, all the players I could get
for him, because I don't see how they're going to
pay him forty five to fifty million a year, which
is probably going to be the market for him. Uh
you know next year, I would trade him. I'd get
all the players I could form, and uh, you know,
go from there.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Because who's his agent, George.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
You know who his agent is, Scott.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
So there's no.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
Sign I heard he was a Boris guy. He's going
to become a free agent. He's going to demand fifty
million a year. That's that's his market.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Eric, good point. Very mean.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
I mean, gosh, it's such a it's such a hard
arm to give up because he's at the top of
your rotation. However, what Detroit hasn't done, where what Detroit
has failed to do is they they failed to give
Batman a Robin here and you know, you know for
those of a certain age, where's Bert Ward when you
need him? But but there's a but there there, there's

(26:35):
like you have to like trade him at this point
because if you're like two hundred and fifty million dollars apart,
which is what they reportedly were from from what what
was last reported, you have to just get rid of
him at that point. You could command a king's or
ransom for that kind of arm. Plus, he's going to
be a free agent. He's a Scott Boris guy, so

(26:56):
you know he's going to be a free agent. So
love love Boris or hey Bory. But he always takes
guys to the open market and schoolble. You know, you
you can bet a lot of money that I that's
that terror Schooble will be will be on the open market,
and boy, oh boy, it will be a piranha pool
of people trying to sign them.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
He wears number twenty nine. The last TIW your left
hander that was any good was Mickey Lowlans just supported
that numbers. Well, so I'll turn over to.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
Warren both left handed.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Too, yeah, left handed exactly.

Speaker 9 (27:31):
Well, and that's yeah, I mean that's where it starts.
It starts with Derek Scouble. I mean it's and then
let the dominoes fall from there.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
You know.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
Obviously they need some people to drive in runs, you know,
and they blew a fifteen game lead from the middle
of August. So something went wrong. From from the middle
of August on to the end of the season through
the playoffs, something happened in Detroit.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
They started falling on hard times.

Speaker 9 (27:56):
So they got off to a great start, had a
great season, or had a great two thirds of the season,
but the last third was not good. So they've got
some holes and they've got to fill those holes if
they're going to continue to contend.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
That's one point. So we'll stay with the Detroit Tigers.
They'll talk about communication. This guy takes it to a
new level. But one hundred times a day, it's probably
too much safe to say Scott Harrison A J. Hinch
have great communication. Now bear in mind there would be
no reunion with the Houston Astros as obviously Hinch stayed
with the Tigers and got that extension. One hundred times

(28:30):
a day, George, these guys day touched or your thoughts
at least to say that as they have an internal
thing here going and there's no shorter of communication.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, I'll say that, Scott. I mean that's incredible. I mean,
you know, the relationship between those two guys is really solid. Obviously.
That goes without saying. I don't know how many times
they're ripping ripping each other during those hundred texts a day,
but I don't think it's that many times. The good
part is that.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
George Mike said it dead. We really seriously, really go ahead.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think that I think that it's one of the
better relationships between management and coaching, if you will, in baseball.
But let's see if it can produce the results they need.
And that's obviously, like we talked about earlier, just making
this team better and not having a folding act like
you talked about Warren during that August swoon in September swalling.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, really, George, general manager slash whatever he is up
there to communicate with a manager. At least they get along,
all right, George, don't say nothing. Okay, all right, but
well you're ahead, Okay, before you get hammered the next time,
go ahead, Candy.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's always good to have good open communication within an organization,
because if you don't, there's no recipe for success. So
it starts with good open communication. So kudos for them
for having that, and now they got to keep building
on that.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Barry, if you're guy up contacted you that many times,
what would happen?

Speaker 8 (30:09):
I hope, hell we're talking about golf or something else,
because you're talking about baseball every time. They're definitely going
to have paralysis from analysis, no question about that. And
that that that you know, Look, first off, I doubt
that they do a hundred times a day. I'd have
to I want to count on that. But yeah, it's
good to have, you know, good communications, but I think

(30:29):
you can over communicate sometimes as well. So uh yeah,
you know, at the end of the day, you will
evaluate them all on wins and losses.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Great points. Paralysis from analysis. I like that. I have
to remember that one. I guess I have to remember
it because this is always on record anyway, right that down, Katy,
you might need it for another show.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Eric.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
I mean, I seriously doubt you know, you could talk
to a guy a hundred times, a hundred times in
like one in one day. But it's good to hear
though that aj Hinch and Scott Harris are clearly on
the same page with what their vision is for this
team going forward.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Now.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Now, I hope that vision includes finding a finding a
robin for for Terrek's scouble as well as well as
some better bats in that lineup, because you can't just
survive with one hundred with with two hundred strikeout pluses
from from Riley Green as well as Kerry Carpenter seemingly.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Getting injured injured every other game, you know. So they
got up, so they got up. So that vision so
I think.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
It needs some tweaks. I think that. I think it's
good to hear that they're on the right page. But man,
this man, this team needs needs some more. Man, if
they want to even think about getting back to the
World Series and bringing a title back to Motown.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I'll have to ask Harris about that. How often he
communicates with aj Hans. I am planning to go to
Lakeland at some point. I'll see if I can track
him down. All right, Warren, what do you think of
somebody contacted you that much?

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Well, yeah, that drives me crazy.

Speaker 9 (31:58):
Let's say, like very said tar golf or something bowling
or something else. Yeah, but I mean Aj Hants has
been successful everywhere he's going, you know, so he knows
what he's doing. And more power to Scott to get
the players for that Aj needs to put out on
the field. So they're getting they're headed in the right direction,
you know. And again Scooble makes is the big piece

(32:21):
that they have, the big chip that they have to
put on the table. And if they can get talent
for him, you know, they'll just they'll be better off
as an organization, as a team in the long run,
because this isn't.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
A short term.

Speaker 9 (32:32):
It's not a short term deal. I mean they're looking,
you know, three to five years down the road. They've
got a lot of young talent.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Tru Okay, let's continue one. Well, let's talk about Nolan Aernato.
He says he wants to play for Puerto Rico for
his mother in the World Baseball Classic twenty twenty six Georgia.
When he talks about Nolan Ernando, we'll hear about his trade.
But this time he's not going to do to the
w C, WBC. He wants to play for four a weekend.
More power to him, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Well, yeah, that's the way I feel if somebody has
an allegiance like that and they want to play for
their home country, I'm not gonna get mad at them.
I mean, you know, yeah, you would you would like uh,
you would like everything to be uh. You know the USA.
A lot of people pro USA wan USA all the
time to win. Well, here's a case where the guy
loves his native land. He loves his country. Puerto Rico. Yes,

(33:21):
is a territory of the United States, but it's not
its own entity as a state. So they play under
the Puerto Rican flag. And if that's what he'd like
to do and represent his nation, I'm certainly not going
to stand in a way of or criticize the fellaw.
No way, let him do it.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
D you know, I get that I get to a
certain extent. But he was not born in Puerto Rico.
He was born in California. His father is of Cuban
ancestry and his mother is uh Cuban and Puerto Rican ancestry.

(33:58):
So but if he wants to play for and he
has ties to Puerto Rican, then go for it. I mean, obviously,
those of us here in the US want the best
players in the US to play for the US, But
I understand. I'm glad that baseball has something world classic

(34:22):
that you know, they can represent the countries and play arry.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
I think he should go play for Puerto Rico if
he wants to, But not forget. He's made three hundred
plus million dollars working for a team that's owned by
US entities, so he should forget this. He shouldn't forget
that part of his life. But hey, look that if
it makes him happy to go play for Puerto Rico,
have at it.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah. The only think I'll stays more power to him,
all right.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Eric, Well, I will say though, at least he's not
pulling an Alex Rodriguez where he plays for Team USA
one year and then three years later he plays for
the Dominican Republic. Let's not forget. Let's not forget about
that little incident.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
But good for good for Nolan Aernado.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
I mean, you know, I think players should be allowed
to pick where they want to play as long as
it's within the rules.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
I don't see an issue with it.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
I think, you know, Nolan Aernado knows exactly where he stands,
so like so I you know, and actually I know
he knows where where he stands doing the kind of
player he's been over the years, so I don't have
an issue with it. But you know he's doing you know,
this is this one time. You know, you can only
in your career in baseball, especially in the World Baseball Classic,
you only have one, maybe two times where you can

(35:33):
represent your country, and he's taking advantage of it. But
at least he's not pulling in Alice Rodriguez where he
plays for USA one year and then did Dominican Republic
the next Laarren.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
Well more power time.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
I mean, would he be the third basement for the
USA team, Probably not, and so and going down and
playing for Puerto Rico or playing for the Puerto Rican
team makes WBC just that much more competitive. So they've
got a major league player at third base. So that's
the way I look at it. You know, I want
to see the best players playing in the WBC, becaus

(36:07):
each team can find.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
We talked about Colorado Rockies. Guess what we're gonna talk
about him again. Obviously they had the worst run differential ever.
The Rockies locked up the distinction of the worst team
run differential in modern day baseball history of the staggering
minus four twenty four on the season.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
They recently actually hired Josh Burns, the Dodgers VP of
baseball operations since twenty fourteen, and he's a general manager
of the San Diego Padres in Arizona Diamondbacks. George Rider
talks about those particular additions for Colorado. Let's talk about
the run differential first and then we'll talk about hiring.
It's a two point two part question, George.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, that run differential, that's Embario's thing. I mean, that's
that's totally ridiculous. I mean, you look at their stats
this year and they were down among the worst obviously,
you know, I think they scored five hundred and said
that they didn't even score six hundred runs the whole year.
I think it was five ninety seven. That's the Rockies.
And you know, besides the hitting department, of course, there's

(37:10):
problems with the pitching staff as well. But yeah, you've
got to you've got to close that gap on ron deferentia.
You're never gonna win in baseball if you have such
an outstanding and negative balance like that. Well, you know,
I'm not knowing too much about this fella. And let
me put it this way. When you get a guy
that's got experience at that level and has played excuse me,

(37:33):
I'm sorry, has been in the front office of the
La Dodgers, one of the premiere, if not the premier
franchise right now. Then I think it should be a
good sign, you know. I mean, it's like Detroit went
after Scott Harris. But I mean when you talk about
the Dodgers, I mean you're talking about some blue blood there.
You're talking about a great you know, history, past farm system,

(37:54):
all of it major league level. So I'm hoping that
maybe he can do some things. But it's gonna take
a long time. This is the Rockies franchisees. It's got
to turn around, sooner or later.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, I'll go back to what Barry said. I love
what he said about the Colorado Rocky. He's got mules
and horses. Barry, there's something you just mentioned and somethings
that just stand out, and you talk about mules and horses,
and that's the one thing that stood out to me
about last week's episode. So, Josh Burns, you need to
bring in some horses, because God only knows you got
a lot of mules. All right, I'll leave it from

(38:28):
there and then Barry, you're welcome to follow up on
your one liner after Candy's don't go ahead.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
It surprises me that Colorado had such anifferential considering they're
the ones that are used to playing in Colorado with
the altitude and everything like that. But hey, when you're bad,
you're bad, and they can only go up from there.
So hiring anybody that can help them to get better

(38:56):
it's to their benefit.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Okay, Barry, bring up the mules or what do you think.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
I'd say they got problems, and they got a lot
of holes to fill, and they need a lot of
good sinker ballers like Warren Bruce Starr in the ballpark,
and I'd say they got they got a tough they
got a tough road hope going forward.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, they run different so pretty bad. Isn't it a
lout of doubt?

Speaker 6 (39:23):
H Well, you know, I think I think they got
a They they made a good choice in hiring him.
I mean, he's been in the front offices of both
the Boston Red Sox and the Los Angeles Dodgers, to which,
you know, I hate to admit it, but at that
point in time, the Dodgers had one of the best
excuse me, the Red Sox is one of the better
front offices in baseball.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
I believe that was under the field Epstein regime. But
he's been a GM before.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
I mean, he was the general manager in San Diego,
best known for trading away, trading away Anthony Rizzo. But
in Arizona he oversaw the drafting of guys like Paul Goldschmid,
Max Schuzer, A J. Pullock, which who was good for
a period of time, and also Adam et and another
guy who was good for a really good for a
for a nice period of time. You know, he he's

(40:07):
been here before. I think Colorado is a great spot
for any you know, for anybody who was getting there
getting a GM job, because that job allows you to
be creative, it allows you to figure out things. I mean,
Tick Momfert, to his credit though, has the patience and
will let you do your thing.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
But you know, again, it's a mess there and.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
They're they're probably i'd probably argue that they were worse
than than the than the one hundred and twenty one
lost Chicago White Sox.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Is they were.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Really that bad and they just you know, I think
now that that they're at the bottom of the Barrel.
I think now nowhere to go but up, and I
think that they have the right guys there to make
stuff happen. However, that organization needs to modernize analytics, the whole,
the whole cabato otherwise, otherwise they're going to be what
they always are, which is the same old sorry rockies.

Speaker 9 (40:57):
All right, Warren follow that, Well, they are they're they're
they're they're in deep trouble right now, you know. And
Josh Burn's a good hire. He's got a good track record,
so you know, he's proven, he knows what he's doing,
and so he's a good man to do that job.
It's because they got to turn around.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
They have.

Speaker 9 (41:17):
Yeah, they're horrendous, they're they're just they they got a
lot of work ahead of them. So he's, you know,
a good man to have. It's good they got they started.
You start at the top, so they're started by hiring
somebody that can help turn that organization around.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
All right, I'll tell you what I talked about it
last week. We're gonna mention it now. Uncle Warren got
about ten minutes. Only sure he gets a piece of
this action, but expected to retire Anthony Ren Doon and
the Angels are in talks to actually buy out the
final year of his contract with the expectation that he
will retire. He had a seven year contract worth two
hundred and forty five million. He spent the entire twenty

(41:55):
twenty five season recovery from hip surgery, and he's old
up thirty eight million in twenty twenty six. Aren't arguably
one of the worst free agent signings ever. So Uncle Warren, No,
let you start off. What are you talking about Anthony
Rendone and how was worked on tuler? California hadn't been
too good for him.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
Well, he was a great player when he was healthy,
but he just couldn't stay on the field when he
was with California, you know. And it is it's one
of the worst signings ever because I thought when they
got him, boy they you know, they're starting to get
some players around Mike Trout, because Mike Trout's been the
MVP and a great player, and he's he's had trouble
staying on the field, you know, and pitching has always

(42:30):
been an issue in that organization. But it's it's sad
to see such a good player, you know, at the
end of his career and from what I read today,
he's pretty much done. They don't expect him to play anymore.
He's getting ready to retire. Go ahead, Erica, go back
the other way.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Well, you know, I'm glad for the Angel's sake that
they got Anthony Rending to do that, I think at
the time though, I mean, even though it's become the
worst contract ever, Let's remember at the time though, it
was has a great signing for the Angels, who had
Mike trad at the time. And keep in mind too,
Otani had just arrived there too, so I imagine that however,

(43:08):
even Otani had his injury problems there. And it's unfortunate
though that didn't work out because when at the time
they signed him, he had just led the National League
in in RBI and helped and helped the Nationals upset
the Houston Astros in that season the World Series, which
was which was enjoyable, enjoyable on my end.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
But it's you know, it's unfortunate though, that his career
ended that way. It really is.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
He was all he was considered at the time one
of the better players in baseball. And you know, I mean,
you know, yeah, yeah, he's going to retire unfortunately though
he I don't think he left the way he wanted to.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
All Right, Verry.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Never been a big rinda On fan. I did.

Speaker 8 (43:52):
There's something about I never liked the signing. I thought
it was a huge amount of money for for him,
and then he came out and says something about baseball
wouldn't really his first love. You know, I'd say, but look,
the Angels are the worst when it comes to signing.
They just they you know, they got Trout and poor
Trout's been injured a lot here in the latter part

(44:12):
of his after signing that huge contract, o Tani, you know,
leaves them. So it's just a and you know they
they should be competitive with the Dodgers, but they just
got that organization doesn't seem to get out of its
own way.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Seven years, two hundred and forty five million dollars. What
did he do to deserve that? He is only he
only has twelve hundred and eighteen hits over his career.
He his batting average is to eighty. He's hit one
hundred and fifty eight home runs and six hundred and
seventy one runs batted in. He's thirty five years old.

(44:50):
I mean, he just didn't deserve that big of a contract.
No way, no how I mean, if he deserves that,
I'll go out there and do for half that. I'm
sorry that happens.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Based up business. Dan, Okay, go ahead, George.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Well, I had to disagree a little bit. Candy had
some good years with the Washington Nationals, and at the
time when they signed him, the Angels thought he was
going to be good. But listen to this stuff. This
is unbelievable. This man had only fifty four hits in
twenty twenty fifty four hits, then the next year fifty two,
then the thirty or thirty eight. You get the picture here.

(45:28):
Just as Eric said, I mean, this was a bad contract,
This was a bad acquisition. It really blew up in
the Angel's face. Another franchise that is just down in
the dumps right now, and that needs a resurgence. And
I wouldn't bring him back. I mean, you know, let's
say goodbye. But man, oh man, that's a huge that's

(45:49):
a huge contract to eat. But they were going to
probably have to do that. But yeah, he has been
not good at all.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Leadless to say, let's talk about big fall history. Have
a few guys obviously know it all too well. So
we're gonna go back to our no hitter of the night.
Bob Gibson's no hitter occurred in August, obviously, way back
in the Hey versus the Pittsburgh Pirates. Thinks to outstanding

(46:16):
defensive plates by Jose Cruz and Joe Tory all like candy,
research what it is. But Bob Gibson thrown a no
hitter was definitely a treat, wasn't it, Lauren?

Speaker 9 (46:26):
Oh, Yes, he was a treat to watch. I can
remember as a little boy watching him, and he was
He was fun to watch. Boys didn't get you definitely
didn't get comfortable in the batter's box. He dig in
and boy he got one right by your neck.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
You know.

Speaker 9 (46:40):
He was fun to watch, and he revolutionized the game.
He revolutionized pissing. They moved the mound from twelve inches
to nine inches after he had the one twelve bra
that one year and I believe it was sixty seven
or sixty eight, So he changed the game. Just he
was a great athlete. Great He played one year for
the Harlem Globe Trotters. You know, he was just a

(47:01):
wonderful athlete.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, unbelievably, Yeah, I wouldn't want to face him either
inside and it's him and the guys or anybody better
than Bob kiinside. Many years ago, I did meet him
over at Riverfront Stadium. I think it was in eighty
six during an old timers game with the Reds, and
he happened to be there. It's a nice guy from
what I got to know. Sho what a camera phones
back then?

Speaker 6 (47:22):
Eric, I mean it's you know, it's it doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
I mean, there's a he changed the game, He changed pitching.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
They moved the mound back because of him, because he
was because he was so like, just so dominant, and
you know, you don't get too copy in there because
he'll throw out you. Heck, he threat Carlia Strepsky in
the World Series, right, very well.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
I did.

Speaker 8 (47:45):
I did hit against Gibson, but at that end of
his career. But my one of my favorite stories about
Gibson was when he was at the at the prime
of his career, we had a rookie pitcher named Baylort Moore.
Gene Mott liked to get to take the ball for
your first game and go by and kind of give
you a little pep talk and in this case, he
throws Baylor Moore of the ball that he's going to

(48:06):
warm up with that day and says, Son, we're out
there against Gibson the night, throw a shut out and
we'll play for a tie. So and he ended up
losing game one to nothing. So Gibson was one of
the all time great ones. And I'm sure Warren probably
heard the stories that I heard from Kim McCarver when
we were with the Phillies talking about some of the

(48:28):
stuff Gibson did. So, Yeah, he's one of the all
time greats.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, I wanted to do Agnollen tonight. I wanted very
to acknowledge him tonight. It was time for us to
do that. And obviously, who knows the kind of loves
will be me during the Baseball Winner meetings with anybody
that knows Bob Gibson. The way he pitched is unbelievable, right.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Can't he?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
So?

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Gibson achieved two highlights in August of seventy one.

Speaker 10 (48:51):
One.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
On the fourth, he defeated the Giants seven to two
at Bush Memorial Stadium for his two hundredth career victory.
Ten days later, he threw a no hitter against the
Pittsburgh Pirates, beating the eventual World Series World champions by
a score of eleven to nothing at Three Rivers Stadium.
Along the way, he registered ten strikeouts, including the game's

(49:15):
final out. Gibson also drove in three runs, one in
the fifth inning sacrifice fly and two on an eighth
inning single to help his own cause. The no hitter
was the first in Pittsburgh since Nick Maddocks at Exhibition
Park in nineteen oh seven. None had been pitched in
the sixty two year history of Shree River Stadium predecessor

(49:39):
Forbes Field. I mean he did a lot of different things.
I mean he I was reading that he wants where
is it? Gibson faced Pittsburgh Pirates on July fifteenth, when
Roberto Clemente hit a line drive off Gibson's right leg.

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Unaware his leg had been fractured, Gibson faced three more
batters before his right fibula brone snapped above the ankle.
Can you imagine, like some of them, that just goes
to tell you how tough he really was and to
change the game like he did. Great pitcher.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, I was actually at three Rover Stadium many years
ago when the Lions took on the Pittsburgh steel It
was pretty cool play. So it was all those cookie
color ballparks. Sorry, go ahead, George.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
This was the thirteenth big league season for Gibson, and
this is one of the achievements that had eluded him.
And you know, he whacked up like you guys talked about,
you know, World Series, MVP Awards, Cy Young Awards, All
Star Games, you name it. That unbelievable season in sixty eight,
shattering that era mark one point one two thirteen shutouts

(50:52):
that year. But he just could not get that no header.
So I know, even though he was pitching rather average
for him. Obviously, he goes without saying ten and ten
when he met the Pirates on that day August fourteenth,
nineteen seventy one. So he closed the deal, man, he
closed the deal. One of the last things that he
had to do as a big league pitcher is achieved

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that at age thirty five. So it was a great night, Scott.
I mean, I was too young to be involved with
any remembrance of that occasion, but I'm glad you brought
it up because he was one of the best. Like
you said, Eric, he changed the face. He changed the
pitching model.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
All right, Warren, I got one more topic. Catch, I
got time. I'm going to hit you with both of
them and everybody else in comment on him. Rest of all,
let's go back in baseball history in November twenty third,
nineteen sixty two, Maury Willson does win the nlmbpel Ward
still one hundred and four or fill a base at
the break the season season record by Ty Cobb. Were

(51:51):
talking about Maury wills.

Speaker 9 (51:53):
Oh, he was great. I love watching him. Some big
Giants fans still have been to this day, and the
Dodgers and Giants for the big rivals, you know, and
he was fun to watch. They when they came to
play a candlestick, they used to water the baselines down.
They did, you know, make it a big mud puddle
so he couldn't run, you know. So it's fun to

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see what they tried to do to slow him down.
But you couldn't slow him down. I mean, steal one
hundred and four bases. It's just as unbelievable, you know,
And the game's not played that way anymore stealing. You know,
if you steal fifty or sixty bases, you're going to
lead the leagues now you know, and he was a
great player. He was you know, and he was an
older player. It took him a while before he got
to the big leagues. But he'll give you had a

(52:36):
great career for well while he was there.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I'll give you one more topic. I know you have
to get going and get nine o'clock and let's sloop
this last one. And while you're on here, all right,
you get this, Okay, Russy Sob is the only player
in MLB history to achieve over to actually hint, achieve
over five hundred hints with four different clubs, the Astros
and Mets, Tigers and Nextros. Some talks about Russy Sob.

Speaker 9 (52:58):
Oh, he's a great hitter. You have to face him
a few times and he was fun to face. You know,
he was a he was a good hitter and he
hit a lot of home runs. You know, he was great,
great ambassador for the game. Everybody loved him wherever he played.
You know, he had a great career, great great individual.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Okay, well great great stuff. Will we answer, and so
you know what, you got to get going about three minutes,
so the last minute and a half you can go ahead,
and he's letter going to know how they get ahold
of you.

Speaker 7 (53:23):
Okay, I can be reached at Brewster b R U S. S.
T A. R.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
Forty at gmail dot com. And thank you very much.
I'll tell you all next week.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yeah, we look forward to having Warren Bruce for Monday
night paceball. Everybody here and that's South forwarders from your
media network. Enjoy your time with your son. We enjoy
your your family here enjoying their time with you. So
see you next Monday night weekend. Warm not everybody. So
what we're gonna do now is before we go to
our station break, we'll go ahead back to Bob Gibson. Eric,

(53:56):
what a your talks about Bob Gibson. Well we'll go
Gibson and Stock and then we'll go ahead and go
to the station break.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Oh I are sure my thoughts on on on Gibson?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Oh did you okay?

Speaker 8 (54:06):
No problem, Barry, Well, yeah, we talked to Gibson going
to stop. I played with Stob in Montreal. I just
came up and so I was around him more than
played with him because I was still a younger player.
But he was a great hitter. I mean his big
thing as a hitters. He he he lived on the

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on the cripple pitches. He wanted to get that picture
in that two it oh count and things of that.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Three to one.

Speaker 8 (54:33):
But he was a great hitter, and no question, you
know he was the LaGrand Arons in Montreal when I
was there, and uh, you know he was a He
was a very good picture and a good chef. So
that that makes two good things in his life.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
Yeah, very well, he was very loved in in Montreal.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
On that question.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, we'll go around the horn. Okay, I I had
a senior moment there. Okay, the one I have to
mess and Moriolves are well, we'll go around the hord
candy with Russy stop.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Go ahead, Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, go.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
To George first, Glad George.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Well, you know, the Tigers enjoyed the time he spent here.
He was an outstanding designated hitter for the Detroit Tigers.
And that is an amazing stats guy. You said, over
five hundred hits with these teams. You don't normally hear that,
and the reason why is because when you got a
guy that's that good a hitter, he doesn't typically move

(55:30):
around to that many different teams, especially in those days.
So that is an amazing stat you know, with the
five hundred plus. But yeah, I mean Detroit loved them too.
But you're right, guys, I mean Montreal is the one
that really fell in love with him, and he really
got the great, the great vibes going. But he was
welcoming Tiger Town as well. A great guy.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Well think what I made the Detroit Tigers. I was
a representative of nineteen seventy six All Star team which
had Mark Favors out there. So yeah, he certainly well
this time, all right, Candy.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
So he actually is just two hundred and eighty four
hits shy of the three thousand plateau. He was an
original member of the Montreal Expos and the team's first star.
Although he only played five hundred and eighteen of his
two nine and fifty one games as an Expo, his

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enduring popularity led them to retire his number in nineteen
ninety three, while the Mets inducted him into their team
Hall of Fame in eighty six.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Great stuff, Yeah, New York pass Russy's stop. Wherever he went,
he was a winner. Okay, Well that said, let's backtrack
over to Maury Wills, all right, George. Obviously he went
out there and clipped ICABS records. So let's go to Maury.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, boy, incredible athlete, just a great, great guy for
the game of baseball. I mean I remember watching him
when we had the Saturday Game of the Week. You know,
the only basically back then the television days, the only
time you could ever see guys, especially in the National League,
were in these Games of the week. And yeah, he
was incredible. I mean I always liked him. He was

(57:10):
just a he just had so much. His speed was incredible.
It is kind of odd that you know that he'd
beat Cobbs Rockery, but hey, he deserved it.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
My god.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
He could run like anybody and it was a great
spark plug for that those teams he played on.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Candy.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
He was the National League Most Valuable Player in nineteen
sixty two, stealing a record one hundred and four bases
to break the old modern air mark of ninety six
set for Taycup. What I find very interesting is in
his career he had two one and thirty four hits,
twenty home runs, he had four hundred and fifty eight

(57:51):
runs batted in, but he stole five hundred and eighty
six bases, So one hundred and thirty more stolen bases
than runs batted in. I find that wow, incredible.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
All right, Barry Well, he was a, you know, a
great player for the way the Dodgers played baseball. They
won't go pitching and defense and they were small ball baseball. Uh,
we actually brought him in with the White Sox. I
believe it was to work with our base runners. Good guy,
great guy for the game, and uh, you know he

(58:29):
he certainly changed the game. Now we you know, we're
going going away from stealing bases in this era. But
during his era, he was a perfect combination with the
for the Dodgers at that time.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Eric, I mean, Mary Willis one of the He was
like one of the better base dealers at that at
that point in time, to the point where they were
the giants. Like Warren said earlier, they would literally take
water and soak the bass pass. Heck, they probably not
only would it make mud, but I'm sure with them
at a wind that blew off blew off the bay
at Candlestick Prket probably froze the ground to the point

(59:01):
where Will is probably what they were trying to get
him to fall over as he's trying to run but you.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Know, but you know, a great bass dealer. You know
he was.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
You know, he was one of those gout pro He was,
you know, at the time, your prototypical leadoff hitter, and
you know you didn't want him on base because he'd
make stuff happen.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Okay, Coverstation Break, Candy, Go Ahead.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Stuth.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
And speaking of ryk Katz, he's a strong candidate right now,
I'll have the forward to be written, but I may
have two or three people, right and Eric is definitely
one of the people that's trade at the top of
that list, Barry. That just shows to show you how
far Eric has come along in our system. This kid
here came here not knowing much, and all of a
sudden he stayed with us for a while. You taught
me a lot about developing people, right Barry, back in
the day when you were a skipper for the four

(01:01:44):
of Early Yankees. Will Eric is my top one of
my top students, and this kid is a strong candidate
to write a forward for a book, so that he
certainly helped. So just goes to show you, Barry having
this kid you know, with us. He's a gift to
us and we're I had to feature him a couple
of times as well. Also, I'm working on trying to
get Barry Bloom for our Saturday show on December twentieth,

(01:02:05):
So anybody that wants to be a part of that show,
let me know, Perry, just to let you know if
you ever find a center you want to talk to
Barry Bloom, Fine if you don't, no big deal. I
already talked to him about you anyways, that you're on
the show anyway. So Barry's one of the best writers
out there in the planet. I don't know how often
you've worked with them, but Perry, you have an open invertation,
come on any time you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
Well, I appreciate it, Golad to have Eric on board
here too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
He's a great kid. I'm proud of this kid, all right.
But that said, the Giants smith manager Bob Melvine, where
could he land next, mister Katz.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
I think, Bob, I don't think it's going to happen
this year because right now, I think all the managerial
jobs are kind of filled up right now, So I
think he's going to take a year off or become
becomes someone's special assistant. So, but it mains to be seen,
like it depends on who seats the hottest right now,
because I feel like this year, like a lot more
our managers got fired than normal, so and you know,

(01:03:04):
with some of them actually happened during the season, So
I don't know. It could very well be the Angels
because that organization's ready fire Aim when it comes to
hiring and firing managers, probably at a rate faster than
George Steinberger ever did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Funny go ahead one.

Speaker 8 (01:03:19):
Uh, you know, I think he I think Eric had
a good point there. I think he'll be somebody's special assistant,
and whoever hires him to do that. It's probably if
I was the manager of that team, I'd be a
little bit scared of what's behind me. But he's a
good really a good baseball guy. He's got a good
track record, But he might be too much of a

(01:03:40):
real baseball guy with all these analytics going on now
that he may not get the same opportunities you would
think he deserves, just because I think he's more of
a baseball guy than he is an analytics guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Great points all the way around. Berry go ahead, Kansas.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
With that being said, I could see him coming over
and you know, talking with the Brewers. I mean, because
Pat Murphy I don't think is quite as analytics driven
as some of the other managers around there. I mean,
he played for Tiger's Giants, Oreos, Royals, Socks, Yankees, and

(01:04:17):
White Socks as a manager, Mariners, Diamondbacks, Athletics, Padres, Giants,
and as a coach. He was with the Milwaukee Brewers,
the Detroit Tiger, and the Arizona Diamondbacks. So you just,
you know, I don't know. I mean, I think I
see him more as a consultant. But watch out, because
I could see someone coming and grabbing him up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
George.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yeah, he's got a great baseball mind. There's no question
about it. I've always admired him. I don't know what
the first job is going to be. I mean, you know,
there's always talk about whether Aaron Boone's going to last
another season, but don't I don't see them making a
change right now, the Yankees. There's a lot of teams that,
like you guys said, the jobs are filled right now.

(01:05:02):
I think that he will take a year off. I
agree with that assessment, Eric, but uh, you're not going
to go wrong with him. This guy's got experience. He's
got to know how he knows how to mold a team.
And uh, I just think that he's a valuable asset
wherever he lands.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
Well, I don't see, like, go ahead, I'd like to
rebuttal Well, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
It's not that Bob Melvin's not analytical.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
Keep in mind, though he managed under Farhands I D
who was very, very analytical. So if he's if he
can get hired by Farhands, indeed in San Francisco, you know,
I believe that someone else will be willing to take
him on because so I don't think the guy's you know,
non analytical.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
I guess he's just not very public about it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
But Paran's I D hired him, So I still think
he can get another turn in the turn in the
saddle because he had he had a lot, He's had
a lot of success in his career, and keep mine
though he was he was a big part of Oakland
success during all those years as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Yeah, I'll see him surviving in New York Kinkees. That's
a tough place to manage. There's no way he makes
it there. I'll make a prediction and we'll talk about
it later, not Tonight's running out of time to make
sure we get to everything. The only one I could
see replacing Boone at this point would be Don Manningly
at some point, but right now, Boone's there for at
least you're under contract. With that said, we'll transition to
some more baseball history. That refers to Bill Miller on

(01:06:25):
July twenty ninth, that's a day in history. Two thousand
and three, Bill Miller did two grand slams of one
game the Red Sox Third Basement collects nine RBI's and
a fourteen to sort of win against the Texas Rangers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
George Well talk about a talk about a slam of
a game. Oh my god, two in one game. Incredible.
I mean, you know, you know, I can't remember much
else about his career other than that, but I think
that nine RBIs and two grand slam sky. That says
it all. Man, that's an amazing feat and one for

(01:07:01):
one for a good like you said, this day in history.
I love it because you're bringing up things that we
probably forgot about most of us. But you know, there's
there's a lot to be said for a slucker like that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Man. That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
That's I like coming up with exalta Walsh chat because
the whole idea behind our show is we kind of
give you insights about turn events and maybe add a
little bit of history to it. And how often is
Bill Mueller going to get talked about? Not much, But
he's no relation to the mules that exists out on
other teams that aren't very good. But Bill Miller, when
you're able to go out there, they had two Grand

(01:07:33):
Plams in the game. That's pretty good accomplishment in It's
all right, Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Not only was it two Grand slams in one game,
he hit him from both sides of the plate, one
from each side of the plate, So not that was
pretty crazy because I think that he did that, and
I think in that same game he also hit another

(01:07:58):
home run, though it wasn't like it was just the
two Grand slams. I believe he had three home runs
in that a solo shot, so it was nine ribis
in that game. Pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, that was pretty good. Wasn't that, Perry? A lot
of hit one wheel tonight that nobody will love her forget.

Speaker 8 (01:08:20):
Yeah, it wasn't that big a deal since Tony Cloninger
did as a pitcher, So hitting two Grand Slams in
one game isn't that big a deal. So just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Now, That's why I like it when you do that, Perry,
it just shows you that you're blending in nicely with
the way people behind the microphone do things, all right, Eric.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
Bill Miller is probably best known for his time with
the Boston Red Sox, particularly two thousand and foursts in
the two thousand and four postseason when he collected I believe,
I believe fourteen hits that year and helped the Red
Sox win the World Series. But you know, it's pretty
impressive though I did not know that he hit that
he hit two Grand Slams. I just remember Bill Miller,

(01:09:03):
just you know, during his time with Boston particularly he
was a fourth to be reckoned with dr in the
two thousand and four postseasons.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
We go and Bill Miller, we talk about Ryan Helsley.
He was actually signed by the Baltimore Oriols and I
reportedly have a two year deal and play seorte. From
talks about Ryan Elsley, I know there was talk about
everybody's talking about where everybody should go, turning him into
a starting pitcher. But he's with Baltimore nonetheless.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Tigers could use somebody like
a lot of people could use a picture like that.
You know, he's he's a he's he's a good guy.
I mean, you know, I think that as a closer.
You know, the Orioles obviously, you know, want to go
obviously is an understatement, and want to turn this thing

(01:09:50):
around after they were ran into a brick wall the
last year and a half. So I think that that's
a good acquisition for them. I think that Hellsley Is
was pretty sought after, like you, Like you said, Scott,
a lot of teams probably wanted to get his get
him signed and on board for their team. So twenty
eight million dollar deal with the with the Orioos, Hey,

(01:10:10):
the kids get to enjoy a lot of money. But
he is a tough He's a tough guy. He's a tough,
tough pitcher to hit against. And I wish him well
in Baltimore. I really I do.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Cady win loss record thirty one and eighteen, earned run average,
two point nine six three and seventy seven strikeouts, one
hundred and five saves. Who wouldn't want someone with that
kind of resume on your team?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Parent Obviously you're a catcher, you know what just tinks about.

Speaker 8 (01:10:41):
I don't know much about him as far as seeing him,
you know, obviously, stats speak for themselves, and uh, he's
I'm not sure why anybody wants to go to Baltimore,
but uh, you know, I I guess that's a good
place to land, especially some who could most likely get

(01:11:02):
with a contender, a real contender. I mean Baltimore is
a borderline. I mean, if they're young players come back
and play like they can then have in the past,
they may be a contender again. But there's a mighty
tough division they're in.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Oh question, Eric, I think that, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
I think last year Royn Helsley, like you know, at
the beginning of the year, he was all right. He
wasn't dominant like he was the season prior with the
like the season prior for the Cardinals. I personally thought
the Cardinals should have traded him a lot earlier than
they ended up trading them, because that team really wasn't
really wasn't a postseason contender.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
After twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
They had some.

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
Three flickers there and I think twenty four where they
were relatively in it, but they ultimately faded out. So
I really was disappointed the Cardinals didn't didn't trade them earlier. However,
with the Mets, though, he was an adjunct disaster. Like
anything the Mets touch, it turned, it turns it, it
turns into way, it turns into the Wicked which of
the West at the in the Wizard of Oz, it

(01:12:01):
melts just just like just like their just like their
postseason leading the wildcard race, but the but you know,
I think Baltimore is getting him because Felix Fatista is
hurt again. Who knows if he'll be back, because you know,
he's had not one but two major shoulder injuries, which
is that's never good for a picture. And I don't

(01:12:23):
care how good medicine has become now, if your pitch,
if your shoulder is hurt, you're it is. It is
not good for a picture. And those things can be
career enders. So you know, we'll wait and see though,
but you know he's gonna be pitted. It's going to
be interesting to see, like how it works out for him.
But you know, like like like the Mets, though, it
seems like with pictures, anything Baltimore touches ends up blowing

(01:12:45):
up in their face.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Okay for some World Baseball Classic Cup Day, Salva has
been named Campain Team Venezuela for the twenty twenty six
year old Baseball Classic.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
George Hey, he is a definite leader, Selvador Perez. I mean,
this guy knows what he can do. This is a
great asset to his team and his country. I'm looking
so forward at seeing what happens in this year's tournament,
and who knows. I mean, a guy like Perez has
got so much going for himself. I think that it's

(01:13:15):
going to be a fun tournament and I'm looking forward
to it. I'm glad you're keeping us up to date,
Scott on these various announcements, you know, for the World
Baseball Classic. But that's a great that's a great that's
a great decision by Salvator.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
It's not kidders that will be here sooner than we think,
and I'll have more of them as it come along.
I'm just trying to come up with as many as
I can. Next week we're talking about some more offseason moves.
Didn't have it out for next week we're gonna talk
about Jeff can't make it to Cooperstown. So just get
everybody a previews Candy, go ahead, let's talk about mister Perez.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Awesome. I mean, like like George said, I mean, I'm
looking forward to seeing the twenty different teams defending champions
trying to undefend Japan. Know, but kudos to him for
getting selected to help his team in the World Baseball Classics.

(01:14:09):
I like seeing these classics and people going to their
heritage and you know, representing their heritage.

Speaker 8 (01:14:18):
Okay, Barry hall of Fame player, and I understand is
a Hall of Fame character guy. So it's good for Venezuela.
Good for him. He deserves it. I think he's probably
two seasons, two good seasons away from culminating a Hall
of Fame career.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Beautiful Eric.

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
I think that he's, you know, he's well deserving of it.
He's been one of the better offensive catchers in baseball.
He held the home run record for a catcher until
cal Rawley shattered it by shattered it by at least
twenty plus home runs this past season. But that comes
to show you how talented he was. But he's, you know,
good for him. He's had a very long, long, storied career.

(01:15:01):
I think he is a Hall of Famer because up
to that point, we weren't counting on catchers the hitting, hitting,
you know, you know, damn near fifty home runs and
he he also, you know, he's he's been able to
do that. I mean, you could make the argument that
he that he crawled, so cal Rawley can walk. So yeah,
it's you know, it's good, it's good for him. I

(01:15:23):
mean it's a you know, it's it's it's another another
great mark on what has been a tremendous career for him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Great stuff. Okay, Well, a couple more World Baseball Classes
Cup play before a rep show. We're doing really well
on time. Everybody's out there joining us and we're happy
holidays all that are out there as well. So more
World Baseball Classic Cup takes your Caman will play for
Team Dominican Republic at Georgia gorn.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Uh again, you know, you know this is I'm not
too familiar with him, but I I again, these these
players that are are good enough to play for their countries.
Let me tell you, they are good enough obviously to
stand on their own two feet. They are as as
passionate about playing for their nation. And I think that's
what the important part is of this World Baseball Classic.

(01:16:14):
You know, we haven't seen this obviously in the Olympics.
They the major league teams haven't been sending players and
that's a little bit of a shame, I think. But
to have this Classic go every so many years as
I'm wonderful and Junior is going to do a good
job with them. I really think he will for his team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
And Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I'm gonna say the same thing again. I mean, I'm
looking forward to seeing these players play out and see
what they can do on the field with a different
group of people. You know, we're used to seeing them
with their respective teams, but now to see how they
mesh with them play with teams from their same heritage.

(01:16:58):
I'm excited to see.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
It happened very well.

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
I think the O Tawny trout at bat in the
at the end of the series two years ago was
the was really the beginning of making this a real
something that it looks like the players are actually taking
it seriously on the US side, and obviously the Latino
players they always take baseball seriously. But I think I'm

(01:17:25):
happy to see that the Americans understand that it's important
to try to win win in the series.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
Okay, well, it's it's gotten a lot better in recent years.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
I think it's used.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
I used to like, not really like it though, because
you know, it's besides the fact that for the first
before winning a team USA used to lay an egg
regularly in the tournament. But but it's it's great now.
I mean, you're getting the best of the best on
the field. I mean, you know it's you know, Junior
Cameron Narrow. I mean he had a breakout year last
year by by blasting forty five home runs and knocking

(01:18:02):
in one hundred and ten. I mean, talk about announcing
your presence with authority. To quote Bull Durham, it's a
it's it's terrific for him. I think we're going to
be in for a competitive tournament. I think this year
the rosters are deeper than ever and I'm looking I'm
looking forward to looking forward to a fun WBC.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Okay, last World Baseball Classic Update of the night. For
that matter, the last topic of the night. Drogo Perdurmo
of the Diamondbacks will play in the twenty twenty sixth
WBC for the Domerican Republic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
George, Well, Junior, another guy that's up and coming.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I do George.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yes, I couldn't remember the name Senior moment now. But hey, listen,
I give these I give these guys credit. I mean,
this is something that they want to play. They want
to take time off from spring training, and you know
it's not easy to do that. I mean, there's no
good time a year, I guess. But people that are
trying to get in shape for the season and represent

(01:19:05):
their country at the same time. Hell, I would go
to it in an instant. Arizona Diamondbacks guy, I think
he's got he's a he's a good guy, good player.
I don't know that much more about him, but hey,
I'm interested in seeing him in the in the World
Baseball Classic representing his country.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
You bet.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
I don't have too much more to add to George.
I mean again, it's great to see players representing their
countries and it's it'll be exciting to watch very no.

Speaker 8 (01:19:36):
I think it's good for baseball. And you know, it's
like like Eric said, they they're taking this more seriously
down it's be it's got a chance to be a
very good uh you know, World Baseball Classic this year.
I have never looked forward to it until last two
years ago when they had it, and but I'm looking
forward to this year.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
I think it could.

Speaker 8 (01:19:57):
Get you know, it could be very competitive, and you know,
the kids from these other countries, He's lat they know kids,
then his Whalen kids. They're playing for their country and
they play hard and then you know they they have
something for even the Mexican team, you know, puts on
a competitive show, so it could.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Be a good it could be interesting, Eric, I.

Speaker 6 (01:20:18):
Mean Perdomo had like you know, he kind of blossomed
this past year by not by hitting twenty home runs
and knocking of one hundred some some some people thought
he should have been an All Star last year. But
good for him to crack the Dominican Republic, which is
always a deep roster. It's never it's not easy to
get it's not easy to get on that team. But
good for him for breaking through again. You know, these

(01:20:39):
rosters this year, I don't think they we've ever had
a WBC where they've been this deep.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Well, I'll say this much Number one Pew. People will
realize that Bud Seeling is the one who started this
whole thing, and to begin with, they wanted to do it.
And secondly, what's all fun about this show? And not
on they Tuker World Baseball Class Week. We had a
pretty good response up for the Surveyana Bananas last week
as well, So we're seeing baseball and on different levels.
I know Barry got to kick out of that show.

(01:21:06):
We'll be surprisingly people watch that show with the Savannah
Bananas and now we got you interested in even wanting
to see this though, so because the Savannah Banana, the
World Baseball Classic Baseball doing some pretty interesting things is
what they really are, and this is and I'll continue
to provide more wbc IT updates as I get him
as well. So meanwell, what a great show with this

(01:21:28):
group here. I really enjoy it more Bruser Barry, you
guys are always two people. I think Hyry Garver got
the guy that's gonna be right by four, the one
that already did, and while we got Candy, but she's
the tom boy and she's a master of all things.
And does I gotta tell you one thing about Candy though,
especially on Saturday we have the show all the inside
the picture we ran in two weeks, I'll tell you

(01:21:49):
one thing. She holds her own when it comes to that,
for she'll was wrong with any But we had one
way of the time on npticular show, Candy, didn't we
when we talked about football and the Miami hurricane did
everybody real quick for it? And to show a little overview,
well what took place Saturday?

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Well, first of all, I have to say we have
a two former NFL players on that show. One of
them Melfard junior, who his former college is UCLA, and
the other former player is Marvin Powell the third whose
former team is USC. Well, if you know anything about

(01:22:25):
that rivalry, USC does not like UCLA and vice versa.
So it's a good banter between the two of them.
And then you added Scott and me and we started
talking about the college football and this was before the
playoffs were announced. What teams do we think should be in?
Which teams didn't we It was good banter back and forth.

(01:22:47):
You have to go see the last two Saturdays. A
Saturday before that, Marvin and Mel were previewing the UCLA
USC matchup and going back and forth. Go check out
both last Saturday and the previous Saturday and watch those shows,
because those were both very good shows.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Yeah, And the amazing part about the whole thing before
we wrap it up tonight is Marvin and Mel wanted
to do the show to go at each other for
that particular thing. I said, what the heck, what do
I got to lose? All of a sudden? You know,
Barry hout Is sometimes accidentally fall into things, and it
just happened to work out, you know what I mean?
And this one did I mean this show one hundred
eighty since as baseball talking going on forever. But these

(01:23:28):
two guys are unbelievable. But anyway, what a great show
we had tonight. I love this group, Trent Clark working
in on Mondays or Saturdays, but I felt what we
had was worthy of what we went with tonight between
the WBC as well as the other updates that we've
talked about as well, and I always like to acquire
MLB history into what we do. So that said, as

(01:23:49):
we get ready to wrap up the show, George, let
everybody know how they get a hold of yet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Yeah, you could follow me on the pages of the
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(01:24:14):
dot com or on ex Twitter at san ge Sports
ninety nine. Great being part of it tonight, great.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
And you well, one more Monday Night show for the
rest of the year. That's next week, and then we'll
pick it up the first week of January. So Barry
one more next week and then give everybody a chance
to take a breath and join their families over the
holidays as well. Barry and me, your family to me anyways,
that's all there is to it. I'll just be bothering you.
I'll be bothering you with text messages anyways. Now you know,

(01:24:42):
darn well, I always do. Anyways. He always nice enough,
So go ahead, very literally. Oh you're the best, Berry,
I'm telling you. I will get up to North Carolina,
my brother and my partner, and I looked at him
as one of my big co hosts here because wherever
I go, Barry's always been a next to couple along
with me. And now I've dragged him into this, right Barry,

(01:25:03):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
I like being dragged.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Yeah, Hey, listen, I started this show with Tony Vittelli
dragging his pitching coats over and what do you think
happens in our hour? I drag it Barry wherever I go.
Barry followed, He's willing to come with me, right brother,
There you go. That's what it is all right. What
that's that, Barry, Larry, they get older, you.

Speaker 8 (01:25:21):
They can get me to see me right here on
Monday nights. I'll be back with you, Scott at whenever
you call.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
You're the best Berry. I'm telling you you are. And
do you know much about WP I action all those
stations out in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Well I know a little bit about him. Yeah, we might.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
We will throw a little bit of New York talk
once in a while, but here and there we'll see.
But meanwhile, you know, Barry, I just have to make
sure that the guy doesn't have to read my doctor writing.
Howe to just take on that thing called type of generalities.
That's okay, I'll live it that. That's I'm working on
that for next week. I will wait for the rest
of the year to do I'll just do it. At
least you were nice.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
I believe that when I say it the Scott, we'll guess.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
What, Barry. Next week is December the fifteenth, Right, you'll
see it next week, fair enough, I believe it. But
when you do, you have to give me at least
of thumbs up on the return.

Speaker 8 (01:26:11):
Definitely give you a thumbs up. I'll even be able
to read it, so that'll be good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Beautiful. Oh, I'll tell you that's a beautiful thing. I
get two for the price of a one arm Berry.
Now you put me on a chilge. I'm gonna do
it next week. I'm gonna I'll just type generalities and
then you just take it from there. You know, I'll
throw the pitch and you just catch it fair enough. Right,
all right? I can't see everybody, know all we can
hold you.

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doing as well. You can give everybody a little mini
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Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
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(01:29:49):
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And the guy that actually offered I'd offered me the
job is a guy that I worked with with the
Miami Hurricanes as well. He said, now you're my first call,
and it turned out to be the last. All right, Eric,
I'm gonna let you answer this question real quick before
we go Yankees to San Diego for Tatissuo. What's your
opinion on that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
Not really, I feel i'd feel comfortable with the outfield
they have right now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Okay, okay, very good. But that said, that does it
for our miss edition one hundred and eight since Painful
Talk on behalf A. Warren Brewster looking forward to having
been back next week. George Acorn, Candy em Bling, Eric Katson,
laughing out leavest Barry Foot my partner and crying wherever
I go. I want to thank you very much for
joining us on this episode. We will see you next
Monday night. God bless it, and everybody on this crew

(01:31:30):
had yourself a great week. And except for George, iycorn,
I get the hammer on on Wednesday night. Okay, so
he has forty eight hours to recover. Too bad tonight though, George, No,
it was, don't worry, he'll get it. He'll toe on
Wednesday night. And Candy wants she's on every showing always
no matter. But me, well, hey, Barry God love you.
I look for seeing you next Monday night. I'll be

(01:31:50):
I will go ahead and texting that stuff. As long
as I get the thumbs up, I'm happy with that.
I'm real easy, all right, so God bless everybody. Thanks
for joining us, and we'll see that Monday night. Monday
night baseball with this group, one hundred eighty stitches, baseball
talk canight.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
Everybody, Thank you, thank you,

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