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November 27, 2024 40 mins
We are ready to go for the final week of the College Football regular season with more underdog plays on our show. This, as host T.J. Rives is re-joined by THE Gary Segars of the "Winning Cures Everything" platforms to go over it all on "3 Dog Thursday."

T.J. is off a 3 for 3 week last week that included both Florida and Kansas winning outright!

Now, let's see who goes against Army off the Cadets rough loss to Notre Dame, now hosting Texas-San Antonio Satuday? Also, which ACC pooch do BOTH of the hosts love this week at home? Why does one predictor think it's the correct spot for Georgia Tech to give Georgia some trouble on Friday night? And, there's a massive game for Arizona State's Big 12 title hopes at their rival Arizona. Will the doggie Wildcats pull the upset here?

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Football fans, it's time to go on the record with
this week's matchupes in pro and college football. With just
one catch. We're only interested in underdog who can keep
it close, if not pull the outright upset. Time to
find out. It's three Dog Thursday. Now here's your host,

(00:27):
TJ Reeve.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
All Right, folks, welcome into a very special Thanksgiving edition
of three Dog Thursday. Gobblegobble and maybe even wolf Wolf
on the program. I am the somewhat capable host three
Underdog Winners last week, TJ Reeves. He is the man
we bow to from Winning Cures, Everything dot Com and
the Winning Curres platforms. Welcome back, Gary Seeger brother, I've

(00:51):
missed you. I'm glad we have proof of life. I
know we have proof of life because I've seen you
on the bet us Kaya Football Show. I've seen you
as well on all the Winning Cures, Great Content Favorites, Totals,
all these I know you've been doing.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
You've you've seen the bloodshot eyes right, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I have I missed commiserating with you. I miss going
back and forth on three Dog Thursday. I'm glad you're back.
My thanks again to Jason Powers last week and before
that Brian Edwards and Kevin Rodgers for helping fill in.
But typically Gary is here with me and it's not
a typical week. Again, we're coming your way on Wednesday
because we fully understand everybody with family and the food,

(01:35):
all the f's, the football, the fun. I realized that
three Dog Thursday doesn't resonate on a Thursday afternoon of
Thanksgiving the same way that it typically does. So we
came a day early here with the picks and the
prognostication on the winning cures platforms. That's why we're here,
and I know we're fired up. Can can you believe

(01:55):
what I'm about to utter? Final week of the regular
season is here.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
You know what's crazy?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
This is what It's a November twenty seventh and we
still have a month left before we can really crown
a national champion like we've still we still.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Been too much and we keep talking about, we keep
talking about it is such a crazy year. Anything can happen.
Do you believe as I do? Before we get into
the picks, underdogs only against the number. That's all we're
looking for on this show, whether you're seeing us on
video or hearing us on podcast. We've said several times,
do you still agree? I still believe there could be

(02:37):
any one of about ten teams that I could make
a case for that emerge and win the college football Playoff?
Do you agree that it's that many? Do you think
we've narrowed it down that realistically it's only four or
five or six realistic things?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Probably closer to like six. But no, maybe it is ten.
I mean it's it's maye. I know some teams that
can get in that will not have an opportunity. Well,
let me take that back. They will have an opportunity.
I just don't believe that they will be capable of

(03:10):
winning that many games in a row against good competition.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
All right, But I mean, if I start going down
a list, I'm just gonna do this off the top
of my head, and I say, Georgia, if I say Texas,
stop me when you hear somebody that you don't think
can win the national title? Ohio State or again? What
else am I looking for?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Miami?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Eh me, enough skill, talent, Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
How am I doing six right there?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
There?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Can I don't think because they've they've had too many injuries.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
But I mean Penn State would you put Penn State
in the category? Maybe that could win the national title.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Probably not. They don't win enough of the big games
of him.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
He's gone out, so that's probably right.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And they've had some narrow escapes, et cetera. So Okay,
maybe it's not ten, maybe it's eight, maybe it's seven,
but it's is still going to be wild. It's still
the first time ever they've had a twelve team playoff,
and for whomever the champion is, you got to win
three rounds of it. Every other year it's either been
a BCS one game or it's been only two games,
a semi final, in a championship.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
You have to think of a different games.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Tennessee to win the whole thing. You think Tennessee could
win an Okay.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
It's another one. Add that to the list.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think to show something that has shown yet.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So they need they need a lot and uh, you
know there's probably a fly in the ointment that could
emerge too. Is that somebody like SMU is that? Is
that somebody like an areas on the state wildcard or not?
I always state wildcard out of the twelve.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I don't know. Riddle me this. You know how this
thing works it's a it's a TV product. SMU loses
in the a SEC Championship game, they don't have a
top twenty five win. Alabama wins the Iron Bowl or
or ole Miss wins the Egg Bowl, or South Carolina
beats Clemson. Whatever, Da da da da. Let's say that happens.

(05:07):
Let's say South Carolina beats Clemson. So now Clemson has
three losses, Miami wins the ACC. SMU has two losses
but no good wins, like zero good wins? Do they
do they put either Alabama, Ole Miss, or South Carolina
into this thing over a two losses from you, very
very possibly.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
And do you start looking at who's the fourth Big
Ten team? I think four except Etai.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
State, Oregon, Indiana. I think those are in.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think, say, yes, I don't know that it's a lock.
I don't know that it's a lock that it's all
for of them. Maybe it is, But yeah, you bring
up a great point because who ultimately is pulling the
strings for everything Southeastern Conference from a television standpoint and
is the TV partner of the College Football Playoff? And
I keep saying this. You know this, We said it

(05:57):
at the beginning of the year. They set up these
made TV matchups at the beginning of the year that
are critical to strength of schedule. Yes, for a lot
of these teams, it's ESPN setting the games up so
from the very jump in every aspect they're involved, including
with the Southeastern Conference. So the short answer is yes,
I could easily see a scenario where an Alabama, Ole

(06:18):
Miss or South Carolina is somehow in there and a
second ACC a second Big twelve.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. Stay tuned
that committee because this is a TV product and they
have they got to re up this thing in a
couple of years. They're going to be looking clause whatever.
They're going to be talking more money. Do you know
how much they would salivate over the idea of Alabama
going to Eugene, Oregon for a twelve to five matchup

(06:44):
for that first weekend. I mean, it's ridy. Ratings would be.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh, of course, the brand names, the brand names, and
we do know the playoff is going to expand by
four more teams to sixteen, and get ready for five
SEC teams or Big ten teams to be involved in
a sixteen team. Just get ready because that's what's coming
down the road. All right, So what we do, thank
you for finding us. Make sure that you are hitting
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(07:10):
great content right here on the YouTube channel and on
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like on his platforms here with three Dog Thursday.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
What we do is look for three underdogs each simply
to cover. Again, kudos to Jason Powers last week he
got one of his with the UAB Blazers and the
outright win at home. How about I got Florida outright,
I got Kansas outright with wins, and Minnesota was right
there to maybe make it three for three on outright wins.
We only need the cover, Gary, That's all we need.

(07:43):
And again, I love having you here and I love
mixing it up. So I want you to go first.
Give me an underdog on this final weekend of the
regular season.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I'm gonna start off with Saturday Morning UTSA going up
against Army, so they are going to West Point. There
is not a single team that has covered a spread
the week after they played Notre Dame this year. Not one,
not one?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
How about so.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Army of course, just got absolutely shellacked by the Irish
last week. UTSA has come on strong here lately. Their
offense is absolutely clicking. The best offense that Army had
faced before Notre Dame was Charlotte maybe I mean something
along the East Carolina, But I mean we're not talking

(08:29):
anything crazy here, and you saw exactly what Notre Dame
did to him. Army could do nothing to stop them.
This UTSA offense with Owen McCown the quarterback, they are
absolutely rolling right now. I expect them to put up
quite a few points here. I don't think they are
much more disciplined than North Texas was North Texas probably

(08:52):
the best offense that Army had faced. You saw that game.
I mean that was just absolute debauchery that happened there
because as the kid what's his name, Tanydlor Morris throws
the two interceptions from Tayla Morris, right, I mean, they
get down to the red zone three times and score
no points.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Army controlled like forty one minutes or forty two minutes
of the clock in that game and sellicated.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Them like a boy on that just porous North Texas defense.
I think UTSA has kind of hit their stride here lately.
It took them a while to kind of get things
figured out because obviously you lose a generational quarterback for
them like Frank Harris, and it took a little bit,
but they are significantly better now. UTSA I think wins

(09:35):
the game out right. So I'm getting seven with them
right now. Yeah, I will take UTSA plus the seven.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Little Thanksgiving side dish, like a little mac and cheese,
like a little green bean Castle role give him the
UTSA Roadrunners and Owen McCown. It's staggering because I've got
a buccaneer hat on for the podcast audience that can't
see us. His daddy, Josh McCown, quarterback briefly for the Bucks,
back for practically half the NFL teams, but back about
a decade ago, when Owen was a little guy, and

(10:05):
Owen looked so much facially mannerisms like Josh McCown, right
down to the black right down to the blonde hair.
Except he's left handed. Daddy was right handed. He's left handed.
So I'm fascinated to watch this unfold. And just a
quick aside again, I was in New Jersey with the
Buccaneers for the game with the Giants with the metal Lands.
We were contemplating last Saturday, last Saturday night when we

(10:28):
got there, might we venture to Yankee Stadium to watch
Notre Dame and Army if it did not cost the
same as a house payment to try to do it?
And so we were looking at each other, going, are
we going to try this? Several of us, And we
were looking at thirty degrees ish, you know, thirty eight
degrees upper deck of Yankee Stadium, two hundred and fifty

(10:50):
three hundred dollars a ticket on the secondary market. And
I did say to a couple of guys standing there,
what if Notre Dame just whips them? And we're sitting
there in the third order in a blowout game, regretting
that we're freezing to death, and we're still gonna have
to pay one hundred and fifty dollars for an uber
to get back across the Hudson River to New Jersey.
So when that game, Gary became thirty five seven forty

(11:14):
two seven, I looked like a profit. You must look
like a sayer saw that. As we moved on in
the warm restaurant to another game. We just watched another
game on TV. We weren't a Yankee staky that one.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Of my wins last week, so that worked out pretty well.
I had Notre Dame minus I had to take it
at fourteen and a half on the show. But yeah,
just oh, I love those kind of games them.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Sometimes, like we'd like to say in sports, in the
general manager world, the best trade is the one you
don't make. Sometimes the best move you make is the
move you don't make, like doing all of that to
go to Yankee Stadium after what Notre Dame did to Army.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
All right, let's continue.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I owe you an underdog rivalry games galore, Gary Seegers.
Let's go to the showdown with Georgia and Georgia Tech.
Georgia already knows we're in the SEC title game. One
could even make the argument here, this doesn't really even
matter that much for the college football playoff except they're

(12:11):
vying for a buye. They don't want to be playing
at home on the first weekend. I believe they would
be in a home game in the because yes.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Hey, Georgia looses, I don't know, that's three losses. Then
you go to the SEC Championship game. You Brian grew
around there, you end up getting beat then you got
four losses.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
That's a fourth lock.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
That's a different argument because now you're putting in the
variable that they lose the SEC title game. I'm saying
this game with Georgia Tech, I don't know how much
they're going to stay on the accelerator, how much they're
going to care because the SEC title game means everything
next week, including for the buye et cetera. Now, if
you lose this week, you're probably not getting the buye
because you got three losses, even with the SEC title win. Nonetheless,

(12:51):
Georgia Tech has two upsets this year already as a
double digit underdog. Way back, it seems like it was
three years ago at the beginning of the season against
Florida State in IL and god Florestate turned out to
be awful, but they were ten point underdogs, won the
game out right. Then we turn around a couple of
weeks ago, they're a double digit dog at home in
Atlanta and they beat Miami outright, and you have the

(13:12):
number on Brent Key overall at Georgia Tech as a double.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Digit fiveau spread as a double digit.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Dog, I got a lot of compelling reasons to think
it's close. Georgia also has kept a couple of teams
in the game with closer games, Mississippi State being one
of them late in the year. Heck, last week, at
least for one quarter U mass was in the game.
I don't need Georgia Tech to win. It can even
be a two touchdown margin. I'm still good with getting

(13:39):
nineteen and a half. Again, this is on a Friday night.
Interesting that ESPN has spread some of this out because
of their exclusive involvement with the SEC putting the egg
Bowl on Friday, putting this game on Friday. I'll take
the Yellowjackets the rambling wreck here plus the nineteen and
a half just to keep it close. I went with
the too many points theme last week several times. Too

(14:01):
many points here for the Yellowsagers quick flogged with you.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Georgia is two thirteen and one the last what sixteen
times that they have been more than a two touchdown favorite.
They don't care about covering and them, Wow, they just
do not care whatsoever. Uh Buster Faulkner, the offensive coordinator
for Georgia Tech. I think the guy's a genius. Absolute genius.
They are incredibly annoying with what they do. And Tyler Santucci,

(14:27):
the new defensive coordinator, came in. He's a guy that
and this will this will actually be good for Georgia,
I think because Santucci runs a very similar defense to
what Elko ran. Because Santucci was at Duke with Elko.
This soil kind of prep Georgia a little bit. But
Santucci can throw some different stuff at him. First. Uh,
they have already improved their tackling dramatically from last season.

(14:50):
I think you're right, Like, I don't know that Georgia
Tech can win the game. I think they can absolutely
be pesky enough to hang around in this one.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Love it all.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's my first underdog. It is three Dog Thursday. If
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(15:21):
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And now let's go to an underdog. You've got another
one here for me. What do you are? You looking
the way of an ICC.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
How certainly the numbers would not tell you to take
this one, Okay, but I am going to go with
Syracuse getting ten and a half at home on Saturday
against miaim Ah the Hurricanes. This is a pressure pressure situation.
We have seen Mario Cristabal in these kind of situations before.
They let Wike Forrest hang around for ever. They have

(16:00):
let a ton of teams hang around and then they
absolutely open the floodgates and the fourth because they just
overwhelmed people. Syracuse is eight and three this year. Fran
Brown has done a fantastic job with this team. I
wonder about this Miami defense. They're really good on the
line of scrimmage. I don't feel like the secondary is overwhelming,
and I think that Gadsden I don't know that. I

(16:22):
don't know that Miami has anybody that can guard that guy.
So I think that there's a few pieces here and
there that that Syracuse can take advantage of. And I'm
telling you, Syracuse would love nothing nothing more than to
ruin Miami's playoff season because if Miami loses his game Clemson,
whether they win or lose against South Carolina, they're going
to the ACC Championship game. Could you imagine a three

(16:45):
loss Clemson beating SMU in the ACC Championship game and
Clemson goes to the playoff because they would be the
fifth highest rated, and now would Audi because at that point,
maybe the AC secrets left out because maybe Tulane just
demolishes Memphis, demolish his army, and Tulane moves up into

(17:06):
the top fifteen, top twelve, whatever it might be. There's
there's a lot of different ways that this thing can go.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
So well, let's talk about what the Orange have done recently.
A win over Yukon that was public closer than what
they wanted a touchdown on, so all right, maybe it
was a look at it. But they went out to
Berlin and Cal who's decent. And we have also seen
a wild overtime win over Virginia Tech. They lost a

(17:35):
wild game thirty seven thirty one with BC. They do
have what do I see four covers in the last
seven years.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Spread as a dog.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I like you, I like this, just like you like this,
And again it's ten and a half points here, And
I'm sorry, Mario Cristobal has faltered in these kinds of
situations before.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Let's be on.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
They've had two or three Houdini jobs to be where
they are right now with only the one loss, the
fail Mary game with Virginia Tech, where again we keep repeating,
the kid caught the ball and they called it a
touchdown and they overruled the caught ball touchdown to keep
Miami alive on the last play of the game with
an unbeaten season. They were down what twenty plus points

(18:24):
in the second half at Cal in the fourth quarter
and roared back to win. So they lived dangerously for
a while until Georgia Tech got them a couple of
weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
I just agreed that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Syracuse at home, they've called it the Carrier Dome for
forty five years now. They changed the name to something else,
whatever that came a Carrier Dome out of whatever. I
like them. I like the orange with you, brother. Let
me piggyback on you. You and I are taking Syracuse
together three point thirty Eastern time, does it dash the

(18:54):
Miami Playoff hopes here to take a second loss potentially
put them in jeopardy of not being in the College
Football Playoff when they were unbeaten going in a couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
By the way, sir, let's four and two against the
spread as a dog this year. Also four and two
straight up sure as a dog this year, so have
won all of them out right.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
We like that. We like the orange here late in
the year.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
And by the way, if you're looking to go to
that game at the former Carrier Home, if you're looking
to go to any of these games, rivalries all over
the place.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
The Iron Bowl Auburn Alabama.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I've had the privilege to be at that game the
last couple of times that they've played it and call
it on national radio. But it doesn't matter if we're
talking Texas and Texas, A and m renewing the rivalry
at Kyle Field. We're going to talk briefly about Arizona
Arizona State later on the program.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh, the Big Game is going to come.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Up between the the game between Ohio State and Michigan.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
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(20:15):
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Speaker 4 (20:20):
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(20:43):
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Speaker 4 (20:59):
What do you like?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
On S two Thursday, Dallas, and I'm going to take
the cow Golden Bears at plus thirteen and a half
at SMU. Now again, this is another one that the
dobbers would not tell you to do this. My numbers
have SMU favored by almost seventeen points based on the
last four it fell. Excuse me last four weeks. I
would actually have SMU favored by twenty something. But I

(21:24):
know everybody saw the clip of Fernando Mendoza last week
and he was crying after coming back against Stanford, et cetera.
You and I have talked about this numerous times. You
take Cal as a double digit dog, you bet against
them when they are a double digit favorite. So last
week against Stanford, they were a two touchdown favorite against

(21:44):
Stanford and they had to come back and win the game.
This week they're going on the road. They got no
expectations SMU. With all the pressure in the world. All
of a sudden, people are talking about this, this little plucky,
up and coming AAC franchise that went to of the
ACC and is now going to play in their title game,
et cetera. And they're saying even if they lose the

(22:05):
ACC title game, they could get into the playoffs. I'm
just saying, justin Wilcox in that defense, you got all
the pressure in the world on SMU. Cow's got nothing
to lose, nothing that they may they're eligible for. Bole
left last week, they're good to go.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, Gopher broke. Gopher broke kind of situation. And again,
wasn't the number before the Miami game nine and two
in the last eleven as I.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Believe just just an underdog or was just double digit underdog.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I think just as an underdog they covered obviously against Miami.
They may have another cover since then, but as a
double digit underdog, it's over five over again, they've been
tremendous thirteen and five. Anybody would take you're gonna say
the col and the Bears against SMU, and uh, yeah,

(22:55):
it will be weird if SMU is in the ACC
title game here their first year in the conference. Again,
they've basically been Yeah, they're in so so they're sitting
isolated in the middle of the state of Texas, nowhere
near any of the schools that they've been playing all year.
In conference play. And that includes this with Cal and
Stanford being all the way on the West coast, at
least they have each other and all the other programs

(23:18):
across the Eastern seaboard and the Carolina Tobacco Road and whatever.
They have no connection to Dallas, Texas. But here we
go with SMU and you like Cal and Mendoza that
quarterback RT Lashley. By the way, new contract extension, it's
worth what It's the same thing with Signetti at Indiana.
It's only worth what's the buyout if somebody else really

(23:39):
wants to hire them? What's the buyout to keep them
from going somewhere else? As Lashley has cashed in for
Southern Methodists. All right, we owe you one more underdog.
Let's go to Saturday. And if we're talking about a
letdown spot, is it maybe a letdown from Arizona State
Gary Seekers. Have they cleared the field yet at old

(23:59):
Sun Devil Stadium, because I think all the students were
on the field for at least three or four days
with the BYU game, including the chaotic put one second
back on the clock scenario where Kenny Dillingham, the Sun
Devil coach, had a total meltdown. Still it was the
right call. I'm still sitting here now as we do

(24:19):
this five days later saying, that's the stupidest thing I
think I have ever seen with clock management in a
college football game. To have Sam Levitt the quarterback, run
backwards the first time like ten yards or twenty yards,
then run backwards another thirty or forty yards where you're
not even in field goal range for what you want
to do at the end of the game. It was
just insanity. And they screwed it up with him throwing

(24:40):
the ball out of bounds as everybody's seen by now,
with one second still left on the clock, and Byu
connects on the hail Mary inside the five yard line
to almost beat them way in on the stupidity of that.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
And then let's talk Asu and Arizona, the rival of.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Do you remember was it two thousand and nine when
in Dominican Sue and Nebraska thought that they had won
the Big twelve title game against Texas and Colt McCoy.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Because Colt McCoy's trying to run out of bounds, but
he threw the ball world and they thought because the
clock said Zeros, they thought he did not get out
of bounds in time, but.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Went to the national title game. But yeah, that's that's
kind of what it felt like. It was. You're just
trying to get that last second off the clock. Now
Texas was trying to save a second. But in that situation,
I mean, here's on state like it. Guys, just just
run the ball like just there were so many different
options rather than what he did, and with that much

(25:43):
time left, it did not make any kind of sense
at all. And I think Kenny Dillingham is an incredibly
smart offensive just guru, right. I think he just overthought
the whole situation.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, I think he tried to prove he's the smartest
guy of all time and almost backfired for all time
in that scenario, because again, you could have danced around,
you could have run around in the backfield. You could
have thrown the ball to somebody in the backfield that
runs around and runs some more'clock like you're doing, without
retreating thirty or forty yards to do it where you're

(26:18):
still in field goal range to kick the field goal
if you want to, or go forward on fourth down
if you want to, or whatever you want to do.
Crazy that they survive that, So now the question becomes
in this rivalry game with Arizona, who's had a bad season.
Although Arizona has gotten a win here late in the
year where they destroyed Houston, it's been a surprise. I

(26:39):
mean the way that they started on opening night with
Titaroa McMillan t maat the outstanding receiver having a three
hundred yard game. You thought this was potentially going to
be a huge year for Arizona. Big Twelve was very
rough on Arizona. But this is a rivalry game. Here
we go again. I don't care about Arizona's record. I
wonder if there's a little letdown fact for ASU. Yes,

(27:02):
they are still vying for the Big twelve title game,
but I think this is close. This is closer than
eight and a half points. This is at one thirty
Mountain time, two thirty Central, where Gary is three thirty
Eastern time. I think the Wildcats at home, hang in
and that is my third underdog here for this week.
You've got a couple of numbers in this rivalry in

(27:23):
specific either straight up or against the spread for ASU
and Arizona's now a Big twelve game their first year went.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
In the last two in a row, and before last year,
I don't know what's happening. Are you hearing the SECO?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Before last year, I still see you. I still see you.
I still hear you. And before last year, what Arizona
State had won three straight? Am?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
I right very soon.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Appreciated they had won three straight before that. And I'm
trying to pull up, well, let's see, yeah, the Arizona
Arizona State stats. And what I'm looking for is let's see.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
It's a live show, folks, that continues to thumb through.
It is true, by the way, is Cam's By the way?
Is Cam Scataboo the outstanding running back for Arizona State
gonna end up being the Big Twelve Offensive Player of
the year to the exclusion of Shador Sanders or maybe
and some are saying Travis Hunter should be there, or
maybe it's R. J. Harvey or Devin Neil or somebody.

(28:26):
I think it might be Scataboo for Arizona State. I
just I wonder if Arizona doesn't have something for them
at home emotional screw it up for him cost them
the Big Twelve title.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
That doesn't make sense. Here, I finally get this pulled up,
and the echo that I was hearing is now gone.
So that's a lot better Arizona State on defense, the
direction you're going with McMillan and of course Fafida throwing
the ball. That is Arizona State's worst part of their defense. Right.
They are number seventy one in predicted points added aloud

(28:58):
per pass. They are number one oh six in passing
success rate allowed, number one six in passing explosiveness allowed.
So you kind of saw it in the second half
against BYU. Now, obviously Arizona State jumped on the early
against BYU. Like the Cougars were moving the ball, they
were clicking in that second half and you put a

(29:19):
little bit of time left on that thing, and I
think BYU wins Outright, Arizona has a passing offense that
is capable of doing that if you cannot figure out
where t mac is right, So I like where you're
going with this. This is I think the whole world
is going to be on Arizona State because it just
feels like the line's a little short, but they haven't

(29:40):
moved it yet.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Rivalry games and anything can happen. Look out, let's see
if it's close. So that is underdog number three is
the Arizona Wildcats. And again we don't have fifteen more
minutes to go over the Big Twelve scenarios of who's
in the title game with two losses in this.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Tie or that tie.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Believe it or not, Gary Seegers, there is a scenario
where Colorado, BYU, Arizona State, and Iowa State could all lose.
And if they do, and if Baylor beats Kansas, I'm
almost half rooting for this, then the winner of Texas
Tech and West Virginia would join seven total teams with

(30:25):
three losses. And somebody get out the Bible, Somebody get
out an abacus, get out whatever you have to to
figure out the seven team tiebreaker with three losses. It's
not gonna happen, but it could happen that we have
two or three teams with three losses that are the
other team somebody on a tiebreaker is the other team

(30:48):
with a two loss team in the Big Twelve title
game between BYU, Iowa State, Arizona State, and Colorado.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
How will it all shake out this weekend?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Who knows?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Let's see for the Big Twelve sake and an automatic
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(32:49):
and Ohio State. I stayed away from it. Is it
too many points? Early Saturday Ohio State trying to punch
the ticket being the Big twelve or in the Big
ten title game? Is the twenty one too many points?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
No, I don't think it is. What gets real, real
finicky with this is that you think, obviously you saw
Ryan Day toss on an extra touchdown at the end
of that Indiana game. He wanted to let you know,
sig Vicious know what's up, right, So I think he'll
do the same thing here, except that Michigan's defensive line

(33:22):
is significantly better than Indiana's and if Michigan can get
to the quarterback, which we didn't really see much of
a difference with that Ohio State offensive line. But remember
Seth McLaughlin is out for the year, the left tackle
out for the year. Are the backups capable of defending

(33:44):
against Michigan's defensive line? So that's gonna be the question.
I think Ohio State covers. I feel good about it,
but that that could be the tricky part. That could
be the flying one.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Buck Eyes have been lying in wait Gary for years.
Here they've dropped what three in a row in the series.
I think it is so they are ready at Columbus.
They don't want to have a senior class. And I
know with the transfer portal you've got so many new players,
but they don't want to have a senior class. It
says we never beat Michigan. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
So that one is the big noon game on Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Interested also in USC Notre Dame in the afternoon at
the Coliseum. Notre Dame off the win against Army now
goes all the way west to play USC.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Looking to make their season. They're six and five.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
This would end their season at seven and five and
maybe cost Notre Dame the College Football Playoff, possibly touchdown line,
seven point line, something like those six and.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
A halfary seven. Now, this one is interesting, right. Notre
Dame has not faced a passing attack like this, so
that's going to be It's the most talented offense that
they have faced. They I don't know that they've had
a quarterback or a wide receiver part like this one

(34:58):
that they faced since really early in the season, and
that I mean even then, I don't know if Texas
A and M is comparable on the same side USC.
I mean, they've been through a gauntlet and they have not.
They are the the only team in the country that
has led in every fourth quarter and has five losses.
So it's how about this is a team that's only

(35:18):
had one score losses all season.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
But sure, and they are a different team at home
and it is Notre Dame. I was close to maybe
taking this, but I passed on it and went ahead
and went with Arizona, who I like better.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
This is a this is a bit of all don't
lie kind of thing. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois,
and it's like everybody just completely forgot about it. I
know they've been killing everybody lately, but you know, like,
do we think they're just gonna get in the playoff
and get like a five or six seed.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
They can.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
They can run the ball in USC's day, So can
the Trojans. Can they match them with points? Let's find
out again. That's the CBS three thirty Eastern twelve thirty
Pacific game and one more Texas Texas A and M.
I know we got Alabama Auburn. I know there's some
other rivalry games as well. Florida, Florida State is a

(36:15):
debacle in our state, Clemson South Carolina. But I'm interested
in Texas Texas A and M. Where A and M
is the home dog by almost a touchdown here?

Speaker 4 (36:24):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Five?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Five and a half, it's up to six? Any quick
go on that before.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
We're going I'm curious what the A and M offense
looks like against Texas defense. I think A and M
is gonna be able to get plenty of pressure because
even if Quinn Ywrs plays, I think he's gonna be
kind of immobile. Right, he's got the ankle injury, from
last week, had an MRI done, they said he's fine,
They said, yeah, he's gonna go. But curious about A

(36:51):
and M. They have not been able to run the
ball ever since Moss went out with the injury, So
what is that going to look like? The offensive line
has been okay, Marcel Reid not the not the most
dangerous passer and he just kind of misses open guys sometimes,
but friendly confines. Gonna be at home at Kylefield, that stadium.
You want to talk about going into.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
A buzzsaw, gonna be berserk.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
They haven't played Texas in in I mean, my god.
They are frothing for this game Saturday night and again
for A and M and for Texas. They both know
we have to have this to be in the SEC
title game.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
So this is me team that Texas played all year
like they were kind of hanging their pat on the
Michigan win. Michigan kind of like not not great and
outside of that, like.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, Georgia put it on them. Now let's see what
they have here, the true medal here. They've had some
good wins, good good wins.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Not handle Georgia. This Texas A and M defensive line
with Nick Goerton and Company. Oh boy, like.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yep, stay tuned, stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
We could be here for another half hour, but we
gotta go get the food in the oven. We gotta
go get the casse roles made the turkey. Do you
do the smoke turkey? Do you do the oven turkey?
What do you do for the Thanksgiving? Dush real quick? Yes,
smoke for you. My mother in law makes the mean
oven turkey. Will be at my in law's house. I

(38:23):
am responsible for the green bean casserole. I have been
for twenty years. It's idiot proof.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
It is.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
It is frozen broccoli or green beans. It is velveta cheese,
it is crushed up ritz crackers in butterspread on top
of it, and it's in the oven for like twenty
five minutes. It's virtually idiot proof. And that's why I'm
in charge of making for Thanksgiving. So I'm gonna be
in charge of that. We love casseroles, Pumpkin pie, pecan pie,

(38:51):
which are now I don't know if I've ever.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Had, but I think I prefer pumpkin pie. But brother,
I will eat both. I will eat both.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Gotta have you, gotta have you, gotta have conpower little
ice cream on.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I'll have so much literally every day, a meal prep
every week so my lunches, I have a banana with
walnuts every single day, so I get plenty of.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah, so yah, yeah, that's a con. I understand.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
My mother in law makes a mean red velvet cake
and puts that out at either Thanksgiving or Christmas. Love it,
love it, Bring it on down for the desserts. Gary Segers, listen,
you did great. Thank you for hanging in with me.
We got this done on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Everybody,
have a safe Thanksgiving, especially those traveling by road by air.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Be careful.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Tremendous college football weekend, and whatever happens, we're gonna come
back around next week for championships. Saturday, we will know
sec ACC Big ten, Big twelve participants, Big twelve. We think,
we think they'll they'll have it figured out by December seventh,
we hope. So look forward to all of it. Gary Segers,
thank you, Thank you for everything. Thank you for hanging

(39:58):
in here with me.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Again. Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
This has been a fun, fun season. We're not done yet, obviously,
we're gonna be going through the bowl games and whatnot.
But uh no, but Yeah, this has been a wild
wild ride trying to fit in all of these different
things that I've got to get done. But it's a
it's been a good time.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
I know.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'll take you that.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
It's a it's great stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
And again follow Gary through Winning Cures Everything and at
Gary WCE. If you're only hearing us on the podcast,
if you're seeing us on the video, you know Gary
does great work, not just with the underdog's favorites, totals
all of it on this platform obviously, and we love that.
And also catch him on the bet US College Football
Show with Parker and Kyle as they went over everything

(40:37):
this week.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
But Gary just gave you three underdogs that he likes
on this.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Show utsa Syrahcuse and Cal I agree with him on
the cues. I like Georgia Tech to keep it close and.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Arizona to keep it close. Let's see what happens with
the underdogs.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Gary Seekers, thank you, audience, thank you. Happy Thanksgiving from
us on three Dog Thursday,
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