November 26, 2025 • 23 mins
As you get ready to celebrate Thanksgiving, join Jim and Greg for the Wednesday 3 Martini Lunch. They each reveal three things or people they are politically thankful for in 2025.
First, Jim applauds a reporter who broke the most significant political scoop of the year. And while it didn't change the outcome of the election, it does give Virginians clear eyes on what to expect over the next four years. Meanwhile, Greg applauds the Trump administration for getting it's most important policy priority done right - and almost instantly after taking office.
Next, Jim has some fun and says he's thankful that he's not on the hook for designing secure facilities In Iran that turned out not to be so secure this year. Jim also utters a line likely to shock President Trump's staunchest supporters and his fiercest critics. Greg focuses on the homefront and is glad there is a backstop of sanity to deal with the blizzard of ridiculous rulings from federal judges playing politics from the bench.
Finally, Jim is thankful for the establishment of honorable journalistic principles in a news cycle where reporters like Olivia Nuzzi are taking a blowtorch to any notion of ethical reporting. And Greg thanks outgoing Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin for four years of sanity as we buckle up for four years of dumpster fires from the Democrats.
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First, Jim applauds a reporter who broke the most significant political scoop of the year. And while it didn't change the outcome of the election, it does give Virginians clear eyes on what to expect over the next four years. Meanwhile, Greg applauds the Trump administration for getting it's most important policy priority done right - and almost instantly after taking office.
Next, Jim has some fun and says he's thankful that he's not on the hook for designing secure facilities In Iran that turned out not to be so secure this year. Jim also utters a line likely to shock President Trump's staunchest supporters and his fiercest critics. Greg focuses on the homefront and is glad there is a backstop of sanity to deal with the blizzard of ridiculous rulings from federal judges playing politics from the bench.
Finally, Jim is thankful for the establishment of honorable journalistic principles in a news cycle where reporters like Olivia Nuzzi are taking a blowtorch to any notion of ethical reporting. And Greg thanks outgoing Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin for four years of sanity as we buckle up for four years of dumpster fires from the Democrats.
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Reach out. Whether you're checking in on a friend or reaching out to a therapist. Get 10% off your first
month of BetterHelp by visiting https://BetterHelp.com/3ML today!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next
to Greg Corumbus of Radio America and Jim Garritty of
National Review. Free Martini's coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, so glad you're with us for the Wednesday edition
of The Three Martini Lunch. A special edition of The
Three Martini Lunch. Our longtime listeners will know that every
Wednesday before Thanksgiving we talk about the things we're politically
thankful for. Sometimes they're serious, sometimes they're lighthearted. Sometimes it's
a little bit of a mix. And then tomorrow we'll
have one of our favorite recent episodes, and then on
(00:34):
Friday our Black Friday Special, where Jim and I pick
out gifts for political figures that we think might be
helpful to them. That is almost always tongue firmly planted
in cheek, but not necessarily, so make sure you check
us out on Friday for that as well. So today,
what we're politically thankful for? Jim, I know you'll be
probably be thankful for roads that aren't clogged as you
(00:56):
head out of town. I'm always thankful for that too.
So what share list for what you're politically thankful for?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This? Well, first I want to say if you are
listening to this program in your car and you are
on Interstate ninety five between Northern Virginia and Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
Please get out of the left hand lane because I'm
probably behind you and you're flowing me down. Also, if
you are a driver from Maryland, kind of early gift suggestion,
please get a self driving car because it would make elon.
(01:24):
You can save all of us. Please do that. Sorry
listeners in Maryland. But like I've just run into too
many of you. Actually too many of you have tried
to run into me. That's a better way of putting it.
And that's what I were, all right, So you just said,
usually we do this very serious. Sometimes we do it funny. Actually,
I think all of my selections this year a kind
of a little bit in both categories. I am thankful
for my National Review colleague Audrey Fahlberg and her excellent
(01:47):
reporting earlier this year on the text messages of Jay Jones,
where he talked about how he wanted to put two
bullets to the brain of the Speaker of the House
in Virginia, and then he later went on when called
out on it, and said, oh, it would be better
if Republican lawmakers saw their children get murdered and then
they would change their minds on gun control, indicating that
he is a raving sociopath who has zero empathy for anyone.
(02:11):
Now Here's the thing. This did not alter the outcome
of the race, and I think it's very depressing for
all of us who are right of center in Virginia.
That election night brought the news that most Virginia voters
did not find that disqualifying. They they did not find
that sufficient reason to not vote for the man. With
that said, I still think the public is better off
knowing about this than not knowing about this. And there's
also kind of a follow on effect of this, the
(02:33):
fact that we know that j Jones fantasizes about the
death of children of his Republican opponents. Any action that
Jay Jones takes as Attorney General that is seen as
being anti Republican, anti conservative, or anti any but he
who has been a political opponent of him in the past.
I think this makes it very easy for somebody to
file a lawsuit saying that this is not done out
(02:54):
of an adherence to the law, that this is done
out of a vindictive political Legit vendetta, and that Jones
is doing this out of this pre existing burgeoning hatred
for all but everyone who disagrees with him, and he's
simply too irrational to be entrusted with his duties. Now,
I don't know if it's gonna work, but I think
you've got basis for a lawsuit on every almost every
single thing he does, unless it's like down the line
(03:15):
purely adherence to the law, et cetera, et cetera. Let's
face it, what are the odds that Jay Jones is
going to do that? I would say this and say,
you know, I recognize Greg that by saying that, I
might hurt Jay Jones's feelings, But what's he gonna do
wish my kid's dead. You know, he's already done that
sort of thing. I can't get any worse for him.
So again, I think it just creates a potential legal
headache for him for the next four years, also for
(03:36):
the Commonwealth of Virginia. Way to go, Virginia voters. But nonetheless,
I'm very glad that we know about this. And one
last kudos to my colleague Audrey Volberg.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, now she broke probably the biggest political story of
the year. Sadly, the momentum in Virginia wasn't enough to
make it a big difference. But in a year where
Abigail Spanberger won by was at fourteen closing it on
fifteen points, the ag race was at six points. So
had things been in a tighter scenario like they are
in most cycles, that would have been enough to tank
(04:04):
j Jones, But there was just too much momentum at
the top of the ticket to deny him. And so
I think he's going to be basically the Tis James
of Virginia, where like his whole thing was, oh, we
got we got to stop Trump. I gotta do whatever
I can to stop Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And I'm like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Do you actually care about what happens in Virginia. I mean,
this guy is going to be bad news, but I'm
sure pretty much every decision he makes will be one
that we don't like very much.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, last point, Gregor said, I remember talking to a
Republican political consultant. This is back in the Tea Party days,
and he talked about how he loved when a Senate
candidate on the Republican side was a state attorney general.
And the reason, he said, is all they do is
put bad guys away and help the little old ladies
who have been scammed. And like, it's interesting. State attorney
generals used to be I'm not going to say completely nonpartisan,
(04:48):
but not particularly partisan offices. And I said it was
mostly about helping people, you know, helping crime victims and
prosecuting people. And generally people are anti crime and pro
helping crime victims. And I think bit by bit we
have seen state attorney generals become more partisan players. They've
seen this as a stepping stone to governor's offices and
Senate offices and stuff like that. I think it's bad
(05:10):
for it's bad for governance. It's nice to have somebody
whose primary focus is these are the laws. We're going
to enforce them, and if you break them, we're going
to put you in jail. Instead of well, I have
this position, and now it's my time to criminalize political differences,
and I will be the partisan fighter fighting for you.
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah. I think that's an excellent point.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And so one of the things, of course that the
attorney general is supposed to do is protect kids.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
We see arrests all the.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Time with you know, online predators and real life predators
and things like that in many different other areas. But
one of the ways that I'm thankful for this year
is that the Trump administration's work when it comes to
immigration policy specifically. Right now, I just want to talk
about the border, the securing of the border. When we
kept hearing, you know, during the Biden years, Oh, I
(05:54):
wish there's something we could do about it. We just
have got to get comprehensive immigration reform legislation, and the
Republicans won't do what we want to do. There's nothing
I can do. And then when the numbers got over
three hundred thousand illegal crossings a month by, it's like, oh,
you know what, there are a couple of things I
can do. Let me do this, this and this, And
the numbers did go down, but they were still way
high compared to previous administrations. And that's all you can do.
(06:17):
There's no more you can do. Well, Trump gets in there,
signs a bunch of executive orders to go back to
the policies he had in his first term, and lo
and behold, when you look at the first month that's
totally under the new administration, it was under ten thousand
illegal crossings a month, and the number of people actually
getting into the country was minuscule. There's been months, according
to the numbers, where literally no one has gotten in.
(06:37):
When they've crossed the border illegally, they've been sent back
and so forth. So this whole idea that we've got
to have some comprehensive reform, which ultimately for the left,
if they're going to get on board, has got to
lead to a pathway to citizenship i e. Amnesty. It's
the only way it can happen. This administration is proving
right out of the gate that you can do it right.
All you have to do is care about enforcing the law,
(06:59):
and they've done it virtually flawlessly. Down there at the border.
The numbers are minuscule. We don't hear about massive caravans
and stuff coming now. And then, of course there's the
issues with ICE. I'd like to see them prioritize the
worst criminals getting out first. But if you're here illegally,
you've only got yourself to blame for that, and and
so deportation might be in your future too. But don't
(07:20):
demonize the people who are actually enforcing the law. We
just didn't have anybody doing that for four years before this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, look, you know, there there are areas of the
Trump administration's immigration enforcement that we can quibble with, disagree with,
but it's a sea change from the body years and
it is a you know, for a long time there's
this argument of basically the Biden argument was We've doing
the very best we can and there's nothing else that
can be done. And Trump came into But by the
way this happened kind of the first term too, is that,
you know, people attempts across the border dropped like a stone,
(07:50):
then gradually crept back up again to a decent level,
and then of course the COVID hit, and then it
went down again once again. Trump has come, you know,
is back in office. Everybody knows exactly how he stands
on this issue, and itttempts across the border have basically dropped.
They're not zero, but they're just a bit above zero,
a tiny fraction of previous attempts during the Biden administration.
Elections have consequences, and this is one of them.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Allejdro Maorcis should be one of the biggest political villains
of recent times just for his complete dere election on
the job. But of course he's operating at the direction
of the Biden administration, should be President Biden. But who
knows who is running the show at that point. But
my Orcus was a complete disaster. All right, Jim, round two?
(08:34):
Who or what are you thankful for in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know, if you're ever filling down in life, just
look at other people who have worse problems than you
and say, oh, you know, I am thankful Greg that
I did not spend a lot of time designing the
architecture of the Iranian nuclear facilities, because they are giant
piles of rubble right now, deep underground, with perhaps some
radiation and all that stuff. Now, I will point out
(08:58):
that the deputy Foreign Minister said, even to try that
last name, the deputy party minister, that's all you need
to know. He described his country's nuclear program has still
intact in an interview with CNN a couple of days ago. Now, okay,
this is a little strange because the Iranian president had
pledged they were going to rebuild like two weeks earlier.
(09:19):
So I feel like somebody is putting some spin on this.
Somebody is not vehicle like, ah, if everything's intact, you
don't need to rebuild. All right. So here's another better
analysis by you know, Just Rogers, author of report on
a RAN's development of nuclear weapons. He's looked at the
satellite images and he says there's some activity of like
attempting to rebuild some of these sites, but it is
(09:39):
in limbo without clear leadership guidance to some activity building
new nuclear facilities nearby the facilities that the US destroyed.
And here is that the three facilities that the US
struck there earlier this year have had basically no attempts
to rehabilitate whatsoever for all practical purposes. The FDAH facility
was completely and totally obliterated, which I believe is what
Trump was saying at the time. Now, also you point
(09:59):
up remember that Peninggon briefing depending on was like appropriately
cautious to saying, look, we could only you know, see
from above. We don't have you know, if we have
sources in the ground, we're not going to confirm that
they exist. It's going to take some time to do
this announce. It appears that the Iranian nuclear program has
been given a colossal setback earlier this year. On this podcast,
I'm critical of President Trump a lot of time. This
is one time I got to give them a five
(10:20):
star full salute kudos. And look, you know, George W.
Bush said we're gonna take care of this nuclear program.
Nothing happened, well, very little, not nearly enough happened. Barack
Obama a lot of big talk to him. You can
go back to Bill Clinton, you can go back to you.
All of these people said they were going to take
care of the Ranian nuclear program. They're gonna eliminate that threat,
and it did not happen. Donald Trump is arguably the
(10:43):
greatest neo conservative president of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Got the job does just like everybody's going to move
the embassy from televivon to Jerusalem in Israel, and it's like,
oh no, he's never easy, says it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And this was supposed to start World War three. Carlson said,
we're gonna start World War three. We're gonna lose, and
Marjorie Taylor Green, everybody's predicting tens of thousands. No Iran
knew it was beaten. Iran knew they didn't want to
get to all out shooting war with US, so they
did some pro forma oh, we fired some missiles at
your bases. You know, most of them were shot down.
One of them, they did damage to a facility. They
(11:12):
damaged the roof. And let me tell you, I will
tell you, based on my experience this year, damaging a
roof could be real serious. With the tree, but I
believe that like the tree did roughly as much damaged
to my house as the I radiates did to the
United States.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And the response, I'm going to keep it closer to home.
One of the things that you've heard over and over
and over and over again after President Trump has made
some sort of directive is a federal judge has has
reversed that decision or stopped it from happening. A federal
judge has decided it's not really Tuesday, it's actually Wednesday.
If Trump says, you know, over and over and over again,
(11:45):
some of these, you know, the president might be over
a skis on what executive power he's actually got. Other times,
it's obvious the left wing judge shopping, you know, personnel
decisions in the executive branch. I'm pretty sure he's in
charge of the executive branch where you wish he was
the president or not a federal judge and so over
and over and over again. These decisions get appealed. Sometimes
(12:06):
they go to the appellate level, sometimes they go straight
to the Supreme Court. And you and I have joked
throughout the year that there should just be a drive
through land at the Supreme Court for all the appeals
of the lower court decisions, which I still think is
a good idea. And thankfully we're at the margin at
the Supreme Court right now, where in some cases they'll say,
you know, what the president did overreach there, But in
most cases, the most common sense case is they're like.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What is wrong with you people?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
This is obviously within the president's purview of his power.
And so, you know, we talked about politics in the
role of the attorney general a moment ago. There's some
people on the bench who have decided that politics are
more important than fidelity to the law, and we're seeing
that at the district court level. Thankfully, at the moment,
sanity prevails at the Supreme Court and the right thing
is happening.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Greg that is an excellent choice. We've talked about these
runaway federal judges, and just last week a federal judge
ruled that I cannot have a bacon double cheeseburger for
lunch and that I must have a salad. That strikes memsic.
But sue was filed by missus garrity. You know, it's
like I do. She's told me she was going to
crack down on that, and I'm like, well, here we are.
So I'm hoping to appeal to the Supreme Court and
(13:09):
be able to eat what I want. No, if you're
a judge, you're allowed to have political opinions, but you're
supposed to kind of leave them at the door, and
you're supposed to evaluate what's in front of you based
on the law. And maybe you hate Donald Trump, but
the question is not, you know, do all presidents have
this power except Donald Trump? And it does not say
that in the Constitution. I've checked. You can go to
the National Archives look under the glass. It does not
(13:30):
mention that. And yet, you know, I think there are
a lot of judges who are like, oh, I don't
like this policy, and so well, I'm going to say
it's unconstitutional and we'll figure out the reasoning later. And
that's not how this is supposed to work, guys. So yes,
thankful for the Supreme Court so far this year.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, exactly, Dems will try to pack it if they
get their way, according to James Carville and others, but
for now they have to live with the fact that
people who actually care about.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
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for details. All right, Jim, what is your finisher? What's
your third choice for things are most thankful for?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Okay, so this one is lighter, but I also feel
like there's a serious point in all of this. I
am thank you know it's time to be thankful maybe
also a little bit of a time for, if not contrition,
for thinking about, you know, things you've gotten wrong. I
am thankful Greg that I all the times I've screwed
up in life, and I've done plenty of times professionally
and personally, that no one I have been around when
(15:54):
I made these screw ups has been as much of
a publicity seeking narcissist as Olivia Newsy or for that matter,
Ryan Lizza, who I've interacted with a few times, had
the bombshell response that, oh before my wife or my
fiance was being involved with Robert F. Kennedy Junior and
the brain Worm, she also was involved with Mark Sandford,
(16:15):
which was kind of like the writers of twenty twenty five,
What a great twist. That was an amazing And so
what I'm saying, somewhat tongue in cheek, is like, look,
you know, there are some people in this world who
desperately need attention, and they put it out on social
media and they want to get listeners. Probably have noticed
that over the last really in the last year it intensified.
But I feel like for several years The New York
(16:37):
Times has specialized in a personal essay format, which is
what my ex boyfriend proves about how men are terrible
and what's wrong with men and all that stuff. You know, thankfully,
none of my exes have ever said, Jim screwing up,
this is what's wrong with all of masculine men and
all that kind of stuff. So, if you have people
in your life and you know you've had disagreements with them,
(16:58):
or they've decided you to to make you go seek
better help because they drive you crazy or something, just
kind of recognized, like, at least it's not being aired
out for the entire world to see. There's this very
funny couple slash family on YouTube videos as a whole
in his family, they did a whole video about how
for Generation X we could get away with anything because
there was no evidence no one had a cell phone.
(17:19):
It was taking pictures or recording or something like that.
So they told stories about you know, prank calls and tping.
This is before the era of Star sixty nine. I'm
dating myself with that. People are like, what's Star sixty
nine exactly? Prankll, what's caller I pre caller ID pre
all that kind of stuff, and just kind of recognizing
that like you know, as we're all human, we all
(17:39):
make mistakes, and not every mistake we make needs to
be broadcast out for the entire world to ruin someone's reputation.
So let's say you're at Thanksgiving the next couple of
days and your crazy liberal ant says things that are
driving you crazy, or you've got a crazy conservative whatever.
To just be thankful for your family, and you don't
need to put this up there out there and let
the whole white world know how much your your family
(18:01):
is crazy, because at the end, you only get one
family family in this life. Count of your blessings. Try
to appreciate him while you got him, because they're not
going to be here forever.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Absolutely very well said, love our family. And when it
comes to embarrassing things on social media, it's good to
have a smart policy.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Talk through it with your kids if they're on.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Social media, if you want to hold them off social media,
that's a pretty good move too, so that way, fifteen
years from now when they're trying to make a career move,
it's like, hey, you said this thing when you're fourteen
that really disturbs us. I don't know if you're the
right person for this job.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Or did could end up being, you know, in the
first round of the NFL draft, and then all of
a sudden somebody posts this, and you know, then you're
poor Larry Tunsel and you only make well, you're still
making tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But nonetheless, yes, cost him a lot on draft ed
for sure. Well, my third one is one I seem
to use a lot on Thanksgiving. But since he's about
to leave his job, I think it's only appropriate to
mention him one more time. My boss said, when Glenn
Youngkin got a like governor of Virginia, this is a
four year reprieve of sanity, because before that we had
(19:05):
had four years of Terry mccaluff, followed by four years
of Ralph Northam, and then looked like mccaliffe was going
to come back until he stepped on a rake and
said parents don't have anything to do with their kids' education.
Youngin gets pretty much an upset whin they're in twenty
twenty one. The standing of the Biden administration didn't hurt
him either, and over the past four years I'd say
he's at least the best governor of Virginia since George Allen,
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who was just in his end stages when I moved
here in the late nineties, and so from stepping right
in and saying, you know, parents, you should be making
this decision about masks. In early twenty twenty two, we
were still having this fight because that's when he took
office and he got a couple of Democrats to get
him over the finish line in the state legislature, and
the parents, I think appreciated that a lot, other than
(19:50):
some of his stadium deal proposals, which thankfully didn't go anywhere.
He's also been good on fiscal responsibility. We had a
surplus this year, we got checks back, which is very
very good, but in terms of energy and in all
of the above strategy, being smart on cultural issues. You know,
Glenn Youngkin, he's pretty strong on most of these issues.
(20:12):
But he's also very personable, so he doesn't come off
as a screamer, and so he comes off as just
a really reasonable guy. Maybe part of that's from all
of his years in the business world, and so be
curious to see what he does. I'm sure he has
interest in twenty twenty eight, I'm not sure it's necessarily
going to work out well. For him, but he might
be a cabinet secretary. Glenn Younkin Lieutendant Governor wins some
(20:34):
seares we'll also be looking for work as well as
outgoing Attorney General Jason Miires. Thank you for the past
four years. The next four years are going to be really,
really painful for conservatives in the Commonwealth of Virginia. So
thank you for your common sense. Thank you for your
conservative policies. You definitely left the Commonwealth better than you
found it.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
By the way, listeners, when you hear Greg say the
finest governor we've had since George Allen, you listen carefully.
You can hear Jim Gilmore saying, hey, what about me?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Hey, if Jim Gilmore had completely gotten rid of the
car tax, I would says, I would say, Jim Gilmore's Gimore.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Who was absolutely certain he was going to be president
in the United States after getting eleven votes in Iowa.
I didn't say eleven percent. I didn't say eleven precincts,
eleven votes, I think Gilmour, I'm never going to forgive
you for that. You'll see it a little bit delusional
for that. Yes, we should point out that Governor young
kid is leaving office with really high approval ratings. In fact,
in the exit polls on election day he had extremely
(21:30):
His approval rating was I think ten to fifteen points higher.
That did no good for winsome Earl Sears whatsoever, which
is a little frustrating. But yeah, look, good governors are
a asset that you don't want to waste. It's kind
of frustrating. This is like, never has the one term
limit for Virginia seem more frustrating than this year. I'd like,
if there's a bipartis an effort to get rid of it,
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I'd be open to that. I also would point out that,
you know, I suppose he could run for Senate. He
does not seem like a guy who'd be particularly happy
in the legislature. He seems like a more administrator type.
So yeah, maybe a cabinet post. Maybe wants to run.
I don't know if twenty twenty eight it's gonna be
right year, but we'll see. But you know, thanks Governor
young Kin, and yeah, we're battening down the hatches for
the next four years.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Going to be ugly, going to be ugly anyway, Jim.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The Thanksgiving Feast tomorrow will not be ugly at all,
so enjoy yours and I will enjoy mine. We're also
thankful very much, as we've talked about our families, definitely
blessed with great wives and great kids and parents and
in laws and and all that sort of thing. But
we're also very thankful, of course for those of you
who check out the Three Martini Lunch every day. We
couldn't do the podcast without you, so thank you for
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your faithful listening. We wish you a very happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Indeed, listeners, I hope you have a great Thanksgiving. I
hope you enjoy the football games, and we will be
prepared for our Black Friday edition. But I don't camp out.
They'll be fun. The stuff will be there by the
time you get there in the morning, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
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Hey, so glad you're with us for the Wednesday edition
of The Three Martini Lunch. A special edition of The
Three Martini Lunch. Our longtime listeners will know that every
Wednesday before Thanksgiving we talk about the things we're politically
thankful for. Sometimes they're serious, sometimes they're lighthearted. Sometimes it's
a little bit of a mix. And then tomorrow we'll
have one of our favorite recent episodes, and then on
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Friday our Black Friday Special, where Jim and I pick
out gifts for political figures that we think might be
helpful to them. That is almost always tongue firmly planted
in cheek, but not necessarily, so make sure you check
us out on Friday for that as well. So today,
what we're politically thankful for? Jim, I know you'll be
probably be thankful for roads that aren't clogged as you
(00:56):
head out of town. I'm always thankful for that too.
So what share list for what you're politically thankful for?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This? Well, first I want to say if you are
listening to this program in your car and you are
on Interstate ninety five between Northern Virginia and Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
Please get out of the left hand lane because I'm
probably behind you and you're flowing me down. Also, if
you are a driver from Maryland, kind of early gift suggestion,
please get a self driving car because it would make elon.
(01:24):
You can save all of us. Please do that. Sorry
listeners in Maryland. But like I've just run into too
many of you. Actually too many of you have tried
to run into me. That's a better way of putting it.
And that's what I were, all right, So you just said,
usually we do this very serious. Sometimes we do it funny. Actually,
I think all of my selections this year a kind
of a little bit in both categories. I am thankful
for my National Review colleague Audrey Fahlberg and her excellent
(01:47):
reporting earlier this year on the text messages of Jay Jones,
where he talked about how he wanted to put two
bullets to the brain of the Speaker of the House
in Virginia, and then he later went on when called
out on it, and said, oh, it would be better
if Republican lawmakers saw their children get murdered and then
they would change their minds on gun control, indicating that
he is a raving sociopath who has zero empathy for anyone.
(02:11):
Now Here's the thing. This did not alter the outcome
of the race, and I think it's very depressing for
all of us who are right of center in Virginia.
That election night brought the news that most Virginia voters
did not find that disqualifying. They they did not find
that sufficient reason to not vote for the man. With
that said, I still think the public is better off
knowing about this than not knowing about this. And there's
also kind of a follow on effect of this, the
(02:33):
fact that we know that j Jones fantasizes about the
death of children of his Republican opponents. Any action that
Jay Jones takes as Attorney General that is seen as
being anti Republican, anti conservative, or anti any but he
who has been a political opponent of him in the past.
I think this makes it very easy for somebody to
file a lawsuit saying that this is not done out
(02:54):
of an adherence to the law, that this is done
out of a vindictive political Legit vendetta, and that Jones
is doing this out of this pre existing burgeoning hatred
for all but everyone who disagrees with him, and he's
simply too irrational to be entrusted with his duties. Now,
I don't know if it's gonna work, but I think
you've got basis for a lawsuit on every almost every
single thing he does, unless it's like down the line
(03:15):
purely adherence to the law, et cetera, et cetera. Let's
face it, what are the odds that Jay Jones is
going to do that? I would say this and say,
you know, I recognize Greg that by saying that, I
might hurt Jay Jones's feelings, But what's he gonna do
wish my kid's dead. You know, he's already done that
sort of thing. I can't get any worse for him.
So again, I think it just creates a potential legal
headache for him for the next four years, also for
(03:36):
the Commonwealth of Virginia. Way to go, Virginia voters. But nonetheless,
I'm very glad that we know about this. And one
last kudos to my colleague Audrey Volberg.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, now she broke probably the biggest political story of
the year. Sadly, the momentum in Virginia wasn't enough to
make it a big difference. But in a year where
Abigail Spanberger won by was at fourteen closing it on
fifteen points, the ag race was at six points. So
had things been in a tighter scenario like they are
in most cycles, that would have been enough to tank
(04:04):
j Jones, But there was just too much momentum at
the top of the ticket to deny him. And so
I think he's going to be basically the Tis James
of Virginia, where like his whole thing was, oh, we
got we got to stop Trump. I gotta do whatever
I can to stop Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And I'm like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Do you actually care about what happens in Virginia. I mean,
this guy is going to be bad news, but I'm
sure pretty much every decision he makes will be one
that we don't like very much.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, last point, Gregor said, I remember talking to a
Republican political consultant. This is back in the Tea Party days,
and he talked about how he loved when a Senate
candidate on the Republican side was a state attorney general.
And the reason, he said, is all they do is
put bad guys away and help the little old ladies
who have been scammed. And like, it's interesting. State attorney
generals used to be I'm not going to say completely nonpartisan,
(04:48):
but not particularly partisan offices. And I said it was
mostly about helping people, you know, helping crime victims and
prosecuting people. And generally people are anti crime and pro
helping crime victims. And I think bit by bit we
have seen state attorney generals become more partisan players. They've
seen this as a stepping stone to governor's offices and
Senate offices and stuff like that. I think it's bad
(05:10):
for it's bad for governance. It's nice to have somebody
whose primary focus is these are the laws. We're going
to enforce them, and if you break them, we're going
to put you in jail. Instead of well, I have
this position, and now it's my time to criminalize political differences,
and I will be the partisan fighter fighting for you.
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah. I think that's an excellent point.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And so one of the things, of course that the
attorney general is supposed to do is protect kids.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
We see arrests all the.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Time with you know, online predators and real life predators
and things like that in many different other areas. But
one of the ways that I'm thankful for this year
is that the Trump administration's work when it comes to
immigration policy specifically. Right now, I just want to talk
about the border, the securing of the border. When we
kept hearing, you know, during the Biden years, Oh, I
(05:54):
wish there's something we could do about it. We just
have got to get comprehensive immigration reform legislation, and the
Republicans won't do what we want to do. There's nothing
I can do. And then when the numbers got over
three hundred thousand illegal crossings a month by, it's like, oh,
you know what, there are a couple of things I
can do. Let me do this, this and this, And
the numbers did go down, but they were still way
high compared to previous administrations. And that's all you can do.
(06:17):
There's no more you can do. Well, Trump gets in there,
signs a bunch of executive orders to go back to
the policies he had in his first term, and lo
and behold, when you look at the first month that's
totally under the new administration, it was under ten thousand
illegal crossings a month, and the number of people actually
getting into the country was minuscule. There's been months, according
to the numbers, where literally no one has gotten in.
(06:37):
When they've crossed the border illegally, they've been sent back
and so forth. So this whole idea that we've got
to have some comprehensive reform, which ultimately for the left,
if they're going to get on board, has got to
lead to a pathway to citizenship i e. Amnesty. It's
the only way it can happen. This administration is proving
right out of the gate that you can do it right.
All you have to do is care about enforcing the law,
(06:59):
and they've done it virtually flawlessly. Down there at the border.
The numbers are minuscule. We don't hear about massive caravans
and stuff coming now. And then, of course there's the
issues with ICE. I'd like to see them prioritize the
worst criminals getting out first. But if you're here illegally,
you've only got yourself to blame for that, and and
so deportation might be in your future too. But don't
(07:20):
demonize the people who are actually enforcing the law. We
just didn't have anybody doing that for four years before this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, look, you know, there there are areas of the
Trump administration's immigration enforcement that we can quibble with, disagree with,
but it's a sea change from the body years and
it is a you know, for a long time there's
this argument of basically the Biden argument was We've doing
the very best we can and there's nothing else that
can be done. And Trump came into But by the
way this happened kind of the first term too, is that,
you know, people attempts across the border dropped like a stone,
(07:50):
then gradually crept back up again to a decent level,
and then of course the COVID hit, and then it
went down again once again. Trump has come, you know,
is back in office. Everybody knows exactly how he stands
on this issue, and itttempts across the border have basically dropped.
They're not zero, but they're just a bit above zero,
a tiny fraction of previous attempts during the Biden administration.
Elections have consequences, and this is one of them.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Allejdro Maorcis should be one of the biggest political villains
of recent times just for his complete dere election on
the job. But of course he's operating at the direction
of the Biden administration, should be President Biden. But who
knows who is running the show at that point. But
my Orcus was a complete disaster. All right, Jim, round two?
(08:34):
Who or what are you thankful for in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know, if you're ever filling down in life, just
look at other people who have worse problems than you
and say, oh, you know, I am thankful Greg that
I did not spend a lot of time designing the
architecture of the Iranian nuclear facilities, because they are giant
piles of rubble right now, deep underground, with perhaps some
radiation and all that stuff. Now, I will point out
(08:58):
that the deputy Foreign Minister said, even to try that
last name, the deputy party minister, that's all you need
to know. He described his country's nuclear program has still
intact in an interview with CNN a couple of days ago. Now, okay,
this is a little strange because the Iranian president had
pledged they were going to rebuild like two weeks earlier.
(09:19):
So I feel like somebody is putting some spin on this.
Somebody is not vehicle like, ah, if everything's intact, you
don't need to rebuild. All right. So here's another better
analysis by you know, Just Rogers, author of report on
a RAN's development of nuclear weapons. He's looked at the
satellite images and he says there's some activity of like
attempting to rebuild some of these sites, but it is
(09:39):
in limbo without clear leadership guidance to some activity building
new nuclear facilities nearby the facilities that the US destroyed.
And here is that the three facilities that the US
struck there earlier this year have had basically no attempts
to rehabilitate whatsoever for all practical purposes. The FDAH facility
was completely and totally obliterated, which I believe is what
Trump was saying at the time. Now, also you point
(09:59):
up remember that Peninggon briefing depending on was like appropriately
cautious to saying, look, we could only you know, see
from above. We don't have you know, if we have
sources in the ground, we're not going to confirm that
they exist. It's going to take some time to do
this announce. It appears that the Iranian nuclear program has
been given a colossal setback earlier this year. On this podcast,
I'm critical of President Trump a lot of time. This
is one time I got to give them a five
(10:20):
star full salute kudos. And look, you know, George W.
Bush said we're gonna take care of this nuclear program.
Nothing happened, well, very little, not nearly enough happened. Barack
Obama a lot of big talk to him. You can
go back to Bill Clinton, you can go back to you.
All of these people said they were going to take
care of the Ranian nuclear program. They're gonna eliminate that threat,
and it did not happen. Donald Trump is arguably the
(10:43):
greatest neo conservative president of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Got the job does just like everybody's going to move
the embassy from televivon to Jerusalem in Israel, and it's like,
oh no, he's never easy, says it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And this was supposed to start World War three. Carlson said,
we're gonna start World War three. We're gonna lose, and
Marjorie Taylor Green, everybody's predicting tens of thousands. No Iran
knew it was beaten. Iran knew they didn't want to
get to all out shooting war with US, so they
did some pro forma oh, we fired some missiles at
your bases. You know, most of them were shot down.
One of them, they did damage to a facility. They
(11:12):
damaged the roof. And let me tell you, I will
tell you, based on my experience this year, damaging a
roof could be real serious. With the tree, but I
believe that like the tree did roughly as much damaged
to my house as the I radiates did to the
United States.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And the response, I'm going to keep it closer to home.
One of the things that you've heard over and over
and over and over again after President Trump has made
some sort of directive is a federal judge has has
reversed that decision or stopped it from happening. A federal
judge has decided it's not really Tuesday, it's actually Wednesday.
If Trump says, you know, over and over and over again,
(11:45):
some of these, you know, the president might be over
a skis on what executive power he's actually got. Other times,
it's obvious the left wing judge shopping, you know, personnel
decisions in the executive branch. I'm pretty sure he's in
charge of the executive branch where you wish he was
the president or not a federal judge and so over
and over and over again. These decisions get appealed. Sometimes
(12:06):
they go to the appellate level, sometimes they go straight
to the Supreme Court. And you and I have joked
throughout the year that there should just be a drive
through land at the Supreme Court for all the appeals
of the lower court decisions, which I still think is
a good idea. And thankfully we're at the margin at
the Supreme Court right now, where in some cases they'll say,
you know, what the president did overreach there, But in
most cases, the most common sense case is they're like.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What is wrong with you people?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
This is obviously within the president's purview of his power.
And so, you know, we talked about politics in the
role of the attorney general a moment ago. There's some
people on the bench who have decided that politics are
more important than fidelity to the law, and we're seeing
that at the district court level. Thankfully, at the moment,
sanity prevails at the Supreme Court and the right thing
is happening.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Greg that is an excellent choice. We've talked about these
runaway federal judges, and just last week a federal judge
ruled that I cannot have a bacon double cheeseburger for
lunch and that I must have a salad. That strikes memsic.
But sue was filed by missus garrity. You know, it's
like I do. She's told me she was going to
crack down on that, and I'm like, well, here we are.
So I'm hoping to appeal to the Supreme Court and
(13:09):
be able to eat what I want. No, if you're
a judge, you're allowed to have political opinions, but you're
supposed to kind of leave them at the door, and
you're supposed to evaluate what's in front of you based
on the law. And maybe you hate Donald Trump, but
the question is not, you know, do all presidents have
this power except Donald Trump? And it does not say
that in the Constitution. I've checked. You can go to
the National Archives look under the glass. It does not
(13:30):
mention that. And yet, you know, I think there are
a lot of judges who are like, oh, I don't
like this policy, and so well, I'm going to say
it's unconstitutional and we'll figure out the reasoning later. And
that's not how this is supposed to work, guys. So yes,
thankful for the Supreme Court so far this year.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, exactly, Dems will try to pack it if they
get their way, according to James Carville and others, but
for now they have to live with the fact that
people who actually care about.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
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your third choice for things are most thankful for?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Okay, so this one is lighter, but I also feel
like there's a serious point in all of this. I
am thank you know it's time to be thankful maybe
also a little bit of a time for, if not contrition,
for thinking about, you know, things you've gotten wrong. I
am thankful Greg that I all the times I've screwed
up in life, and I've done plenty of times professionally
and personally, that no one I have been around when
(15:54):
I made these screw ups has been as much of
a publicity seeking narcissist as Olivia Newsy or for that matter,
Ryan Lizza, who I've interacted with a few times, had
the bombshell response that, oh before my wife or my
fiance was being involved with Robert F. Kennedy Junior and
the brain Worm, she also was involved with Mark Sandford,
(16:15):
which was kind of like the writers of twenty twenty five,
What a great twist. That was an amazing And so
what I'm saying, somewhat tongue in cheek, is like, look,
you know, there are some people in this world who
desperately need attention, and they put it out on social
media and they want to get listeners. Probably have noticed
that over the last really in the last year it intensified.
But I feel like for several years The New York
(16:37):
Times has specialized in a personal essay format, which is
what my ex boyfriend proves about how men are terrible
and what's wrong with men and all that stuff. You know, thankfully,
none of my exes have ever said, Jim screwing up,
this is what's wrong with all of masculine men and
all that kind of stuff. So, if you have people
in your life and you know you've had disagreements with them,
(16:58):
or they've decided you to to make you go seek
better help because they drive you crazy or something, just
kind of recognized, like, at least it's not being aired
out for the entire world to see. There's this very
funny couple slash family on YouTube videos as a whole
in his family, they did a whole video about how
for Generation X we could get away with anything because
there was no evidence no one had a cell phone.
(17:19):
It was taking pictures or recording or something like that.
So they told stories about you know, prank calls and tping.
This is before the era of Star sixty nine. I'm
dating myself with that. People are like, what's Star sixty
nine exactly? Prankll, what's caller I pre caller ID pre
all that kind of stuff, and just kind of recognizing
that like you know, as we're all human, we all
(17:39):
make mistakes, and not every mistake we make needs to
be broadcast out for the entire world to ruin someone's reputation.
So let's say you're at Thanksgiving the next couple of
days and your crazy liberal ant says things that are
driving you crazy, or you've got a crazy conservative whatever.
To just be thankful for your family, and you don't
need to put this up there out there and let
the whole white world know how much your your family
(18:01):
is crazy, because at the end, you only get one
family family in this life. Count of your blessings. Try
to appreciate him while you got him, because they're not
going to be here forever.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Absolutely very well said, love our family. And when it
comes to embarrassing things on social media, it's good to
have a smart policy.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Talk through it with your kids if they're on.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Social media, if you want to hold them off social media,
that's a pretty good move too, so that way, fifteen
years from now when they're trying to make a career move,
it's like, hey, you said this thing when you're fourteen
that really disturbs us. I don't know if you're the
right person for this job.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Or did could end up being, you know, in the
first round of the NFL draft, and then all of
a sudden somebody posts this, and you know, then you're
poor Larry Tunsel and you only make well, you're still
making tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But nonetheless, yes, cost him a lot on draft ed
for sure. Well, my third one is one I seem
to use a lot on Thanksgiving. But since he's about
to leave his job, I think it's only appropriate to
mention him one more time. My boss said, when Glenn
Youngkin got a like governor of Virginia, this is a
four year reprieve of sanity, because before that we had
(19:05):
had four years of Terry mccaluff, followed by four years
of Ralph Northam, and then looked like mccaliffe was going
to come back until he stepped on a rake and
said parents don't have anything to do with their kids' education.
Youngin gets pretty much an upset whin they're in twenty
twenty one. The standing of the Biden administration didn't hurt
him either, and over the past four years I'd say
he's at least the best governor of Virginia since George Allen,
(19:28):
who was just in his end stages when I moved
here in the late nineties, and so from stepping right
in and saying, you know, parents, you should be making
this decision about masks. In early twenty twenty two, we
were still having this fight because that's when he took
office and he got a couple of Democrats to get
him over the finish line in the state legislature, and
the parents, I think appreciated that a lot, other than
(19:50):
some of his stadium deal proposals, which thankfully didn't go anywhere.
He's also been good on fiscal responsibility. We had a
surplus this year, we got checks back, which is very
very good, but in terms of energy and in all
of the above strategy, being smart on cultural issues. You know,
Glenn Youngkin, he's pretty strong on most of these issues.
(20:12):
But he's also very personable, so he doesn't come off
as a screamer, and so he comes off as just
a really reasonable guy. Maybe part of that's from all
of his years in the business world, and so be
curious to see what he does. I'm sure he has
interest in twenty twenty eight, I'm not sure it's necessarily
going to work out well. For him, but he might
be a cabinet secretary. Glenn Younkin Lieutendant Governor wins some
(20:34):
seares we'll also be looking for work as well as
outgoing Attorney General Jason Miires. Thank you for the past
four years. The next four years are going to be really,
really painful for conservatives in the Commonwealth of Virginia. So
thank you for your common sense. Thank you for your
conservative policies. You definitely left the Commonwealth better than you
found it.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
By the way, listeners, when you hear Greg say the
finest governor we've had since George Allen, you listen carefully.
You can hear Jim Gilmore saying, hey, what about me?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Hey, if Jim Gilmore had completely gotten rid of the
car tax, I would says, I would say, Jim Gilmore's Gimore.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Who was absolutely certain he was going to be president
in the United States after getting eleven votes in Iowa.
I didn't say eleven percent. I didn't say eleven precincts,
eleven votes, I think Gilmour, I'm never going to forgive
you for that. You'll see it a little bit delusional
for that. Yes, we should point out that Governor young
kid is leaving office with really high approval ratings. In fact,
in the exit polls on election day he had extremely
(21:30):
His approval rating was I think ten to fifteen points higher.
That did no good for winsome Earl Sears whatsoever, which
is a little frustrating. But yeah, look, good governors are
a asset that you don't want to waste. It's kind
of frustrating. This is like, never has the one term
limit for Virginia seem more frustrating than this year. I'd like,
if there's a bipartis an effort to get rid of it,
(21:52):
I'd be open to that. I also would point out that,
you know, I suppose he could run for Senate. He
does not seem like a guy who'd be particularly happy
in the legislature. He seems like a more administrator type.
So yeah, maybe a cabinet post. Maybe wants to run.
I don't know if twenty twenty eight it's gonna be
right year, but we'll see. But you know, thanks Governor
young Kin, and yeah, we're battening down the hatches for
the next four years.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Going to be ugly, going to be ugly anyway, Jim.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The Thanksgiving Feast tomorrow will not be ugly at all,
so enjoy yours and I will enjoy mine. We're also
thankful very much, as we've talked about our families, definitely
blessed with great wives and great kids and parents and
in laws and and all that sort of thing. But
we're also very thankful, of course for those of you
who check out the Three Martini Lunch every day. We
couldn't do the podcast without you, so thank you for
(22:34):
your faithful listening. We wish you a very happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Indeed, listeners, I hope you have a great Thanksgiving. I
hope you enjoy the football games, and we will be
prepared for our Black Friday edition. But I don't camp out.
They'll be fun. The stuff will be there by the
time you get there in the morning, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America.
Thanks so much for being with us today. Please be
sure to subscribe to the podcast if you don't already,
tell your friends about us as well. Thanks also for
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Thank you for that.
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You can also follow us on Instagram and Facebook. So
have a very happy Thanksgiving. Again tomorrow one of our
favorite recent episodes, and then on Friday our Black Friday
Special where we come up with gifts for political figures.
It's always a lot of fun, so have a fantastic
(23:26):
Thanksgiving and join us again tomorrow for the Three Martini
Lunch
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